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Wildcard Sunday Commentary: Panthers DC Wilks Deserves Consideration

| January 7th, 2018

Aaron Rodgers and the Packers were supposed to be in Carolina to run the table, but Steve Wilks and the Panthers had other ideas, knocking Rodgers around and essentially ending the Packers season.

That game gave Bears fans a lot to like when it comes to Carolina’s assistant head coach/defensive coordinator. He wasn’t scared of Rodgers. He wasn’t scared of the moment. He wasn’t just going to let the quarterback who has tormented the Bears for years come in and win. He attacked Rodgers. He hit him repeatedly, left him battered, bruised and intercepted him three times.

While he only has one season as a defensive coordinator, Wilks has been in the league for a long time and has been the assistant head coach (a move teams made to keep their coaches) for the last three seasons in which Carolina has gone 32-16.

  • As a coordinator, he brought Carolina’s defense from 26th in scoring to 11th.
  • As a defensive backs coach, Wilks has worked with guys like Charles Tillman, Nathan Vasher, Danieal Manning, Quentin Jammer, Eric Weddle, Antonio Cromartie, Josh Norman and Sean Taylor.
  • He’s been a part of several top-10 defenses, has an NFL record of 133-90-1 and coached on two Super Bowl teams.

On top of that, Wilks is considered to be a great leader and excellent communicator, arguably the two biggest qualities that make a head coach successful.

The biggest issue with Wilks — as it is with all defensive coaches — is his relationship with the quarterback. Wilks could, in theory, tap his former boss Norv Turner to run the offense. He could turn to Rod Chudzinski, Pep Hamilton or one of the numerous offensive coaches who currently sits unemployed. If he has any hope of landing the Bears job — or any other for that matter — Wilks has to come with a coordinator who is going to get the job done.

But the greatest dynasty the league has seen since the merger is run by a defensive coach. The Vikings took the NFC North from the Packers by hiring a defensive coach. Seattle had a great run with, yes, a defensive coach. There’s an argument to be made that the best way for long-term success is to pair a franchise quarterback with a defensive coach — as long as that defensive coach understands the impotence of the position.

If Wilks can promise to bring a great offensive mind to develop Trubisky — at least for a couple of seasons — then he deserves heavy consideration.

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  • Big Mike
    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      Yeah. I remember. Dark times.

    • That Guy

      Any truth to the rumor that you’re being considered for the Bears’ HC gig?

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        Loose lips sink ships

        • AlbertInTucson

          Steelers once had a receiver named…Louis Lipps.

      • Big Mike

        Man… some guys have gone to these fantasy baseball camps and things like that. Being around an NFL coaching staff for a week or so during training camp or preseason would be one of the coolest things ever.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’ve said this before but I just found the whole thing bizarre.

          So the Dolphins coaches came over to Ireland for a day when the Dolphins were playing a game in London. They very kindly came over at their own expense and coached the Dublin Celts for one day.

          I had the linebackers coach,a ll I remember was his name was ‘Stud’.

          Every single one of those guys chewed tobacco. I’d never seen anyone chew tobacco before, but every one of these guys did it. There were streams of brown jizz flying everywhere. Bizarro.

          • Big Mike

            Head Coach must have been a southern boy. You’ll see position groups take on a certain personality. It creates a bond. Like all the OL coaches will wear safari hats. Sometimes its an act, but something like chew is for real. That shit is nasty.

    • CanadaBear

      Ugh!

      • Big Mike

        No it’s good. We’re in a much better position now.

        • CanadaBear

          Fair enough but revisiting that, even briefly, is a stomach turner.

          • Big Mike

            🙂

  • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

    No thanks to Wilks. Any success they’re having on D is Chico. And if we’re going so deep as to use Danieal Manning and Nathan Vasher as resume fluffers, not interested.

    The Packers game was lost by Rodgers not being fit for duty. He was injured and rusty. A healthy Rodgers goes through this year’s version of the Carolina Panthers like shit through a goose.

    And any mention of Pep Hamilton running the Bears O and developing Trubisky gives me the shakes. No thanks.

    Nothing to see here. Move along.

    • SC Dave

      A giant NO to Pep Hamilton on this front as well.

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  • BearDown100393

    Only Andrew could write a post necessitating a Bears board to defend an injured ineffective Erin.

    Remarkable.

  • I agree about not ruling out a defensive coach. If you look at the top tier of QBs around the NFL right now, only Rodgers has been paired with an O coach. Brady has Belichick, Wilson has Carroll, and Ben has Tomlin (and Cowher before that).

    There’s nothing to suggest that you need an offensive mastermind to develop a top QB.

    • The trick to a def HC is getting a creative OC and somehow keeping him.

      McDaniels and Haley SHOULD be HCs, but they’re big douches, which have allowed them to stay as OCs.

      And Caroll I think is only “defensive” in name. I’ve seen a lot of his games going back to SC, and he’s always had high powered Os.

      Having 3 HOFers at QB helps too.

      If the Bears go def HC, then the trick would be to land a creative OC who won’t get poached.

      So for instance, if Fangio becomes HC, and hires Flip, how long until Flip bolts for his own HC gig?

      Then the Bears will be stuck with an underling like Birdcage.

  • CanadaBear

    Pep Hamilton? FFS wasn’t Terry Shea available?

    • AlbertInTucson

      What’s Shoop doing these days? (Sarcasm).

      • CanadaBear

        Perfecting the Run and Shoop!

        • AlbertInTucson

          And, as far I as I could find, currently out of football, after running Purdue’s offense into the ground from 2013 -15.

          BTW, James “Big Cat” Williams is credited with coining that phrase.

          • CanadaBear

            I forgot about that. Shoop was the OC for the final game or two of the season and ran the ball pretty consistently. Of course, the next year he was hideous.

  • willbest

    In retrospect I should have seen the Rams blowing it. Too green. No seasoned vet leaders who have been there to calm the young pups down. Even their all pro tackle Whitworth has never won a playoff game.

    Its weird to say it in playoff football but Atlanta now finds itself in a trap game. Then again if there is any team in the NFL that knows not to take a game for granted, its the Falcons.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      I haven’t watched the Falcons much this season. Handful of times. Their D was pretty damn good and looked really fast last night. I know their season wasn’t all that, but that team is looking dangerous. That’s one that could catch fire at just the right time.

      • willbest

        10-6 is a pretty solid record. Especially considering the NFCS was a beast this year. And they were 9-3 against the NFC, it was their 1-3 performance against the AFCE that cost them.

    • BerwynBomber

      Don’t know about trap game but of the three remaining NFC teams of WC weekend I like ATL’s chances best to reach the NFCC if only because they get to play at PHI as opposed at MIN.

      I’m more skeptical of Foles than Keenum. Plus, Zimmer has shown the ability to win with mediocre QB play in the past. One question about Matty Ice and the Birds is how they’ll play in the cold.

      • leftcoastdave

        Same issue when it comes to the Aints if they win today and go on to beat the Viqueen. Gotta think that if the game goes through Philly, the Viqueen have the edge with their experience playing outside in the NFC North.

        • BerwynBomber

          Not really, despite the cold, I’d much rather play PHI than MIN.

          Wentz-less PHI is not the same team they were most of the year.

  • CanadaBear

    Much like the draft, I don’t really care who the Bears hire for HC. I just want them to get it right, no matter who it is. I really dislike McDaniels but if he was hired and turned the franchise around, I could learn to like him in short order!

    • SC Dave

      Winning cures (nearly) all ills.

  • BerwynBomber

    Don’t know if I would read a ton into the GB @ CAR game.
    Rodgers looked unhealthy, rusty and like a guy who had been rushed off IR to salvage the careers of Thompson and McCarthy.
    The Cheese are no longer the barometer of NFCN supremacy. Yes, if Rodgers comes back and assumes his old form — no given IMO — he will remain the single most dangerous player in the division, if not all of football.
    But their team pretty much sucks. They BARELY beat the likes of CLE and TB in his absence and arguably should have lost to each.
    MIN is the new sheriff in town. They have hands down the best HC and Defense in the division. Moreover, imagine if they were somehow able to get their hands on a young, top ten QB. They might own the division for the next decade.
    P.S. Wilks might be the guy. I certainly like Chico. I just wouldn’t read a thing in their GB game.

    • CanadaBear

      I”m hoping the Fudge get the hires all wrong and they wander in the desert for a while like they did in the 70’s and 80’s. I can only imagine how many people would have gotten fired if Erin suffered some permanent damage by foolishly playing in that game.

      • BerwynBomber

        Well, they re-hired Joe Philbin as their OC so your wish is off to a good start.

        Commented on it last night, but the end of the McCarthy era is resembling the end of the Lovie era. The same fire the most important coaches except the HC and then the HC brings in his buddies to replace them script.

        • CanadaBear

          I hope it works out for them as well as it did for the Bears!

        • BearDown100393

          This.

          Nobody decent is going to join Grimace’s staff.

    • Yeah, Vadgers looked rusty and timid.
      Outlier.

  • CaponeBot 1.0

    After losing my bankroll because of not trusting my gut i have officially retired from NFL wagering until the next time i do it.
    Instead of gambling on sports I have turned my attention to gambling on micro cap crypto currencies. What could go wrong?

    GP! What is our next play? TRON?

    • CanadaBear

      I stopped betting on games in my late teens. I was always crappy at it and picked a 4-team parlay each week. After literally never winning, one week the old man gave me my money back and said the heat was on the bookie and the bets were off. That literally was the only week I’ve ever won on a parlay card. I took that as a sign and never bet on football again.

      • BerwynBomber

        Funny story. Mine is slightly similar in that the only time I bet football with any regularity was playing parlay sheets as a kid.

        And If you would have asked me to pick one spread of the WC weekend I would have chosen Rams -7. So there you go.

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        i broke a rule of mine and bet on a team that i didn’t trust (Chiefs) because I trusted the Titans less. That is not smart. I found an old coinbase app on my phone that i opened a month ago and forgot about because of the holidays and being crazy at work and moving offices.
        The amount had almost doubled so i made up the lost bankroll. The moral of the story is if i stayed true and didn’t bet on the game i would have then found the ethereum account and then i would have profited instead of just breaking even.

        • CanadaBear

          The only time I find money it’s almost always change. Not really going to affect my lifestyle! The way my Beloved Bride can spend money I try to save it wherever I can (other than medical marijuana).

          • Irish Sweetness

            She is the most beloved woman on this blog …..

    • Irish Sweetness

      I picked the BUF/CAR/TEN treble/points-lay then got too busy to back it (haven’t had a football bet this year!)

  • BearDown100393

    No team celebrated harder back dooring their way into the playoffs than the Buffalo Bills.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, they did everything but offer their players’ wives and GFs to the Bengals as expressions of gratitude.

      Kinda embarrassing.

  • BearDown100393

    Blake Bortles vs Tyrod Taylor

    Worst opposing starting QBs ever in a playoff game?

    • BerwynBomber

      Osweiler/Cook just last year …

      Oh wait, do you mean W1 starters? Hmmm …

  • BerwynBomber

    This could be a game of a lot of three-and-outs.

  • EnderWiggin

    Bortles looks nervous as heck. Romo blaming the wind.

    • BearDown100393

      Ancraophobia

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      Few Jaguars are used to playing in January.

  • BearDown100393

    This is why television ratings are down.

    • BerwynBomber

      Nah. It’s an outlier of a game.

      There are hundreds of reasons why ratings are down. Quality of play is low on the list. Or in this case, quality of O play. Because the D play is outstanding.

      • BearDown100393

        The NFL marketed star power to drive viewership.

        This is not bad football per say.

        But neither team really has anything marquee to sell.

        • BerwynBomber

          Agreed.

          And it is mistake, IMO, to make the league about Rodgers, Watt, ODB and Wentz because serious injuries are too much a wild card, as we saw with all four of those guys this year.

          • BearDown100393

            Absolutely.

            The consequence is a game like this is going to be under the radar on viewership outside the local markets.

            CBS attempted to sell this game based largely on Buffalo’s playoff drought and fan reaction. Seriously who really cares?

            The team was still 9-7 despite no clear cut starting quarterback.

            Jacksonville is 10-6 and largely ignored completely in the hype.

            Want to sell the games? Promote FOOTBALL.

    • EnderWiggin

      Lots of people love these games. Including me and anyone over 40.

      • BearDown100393

        I’m good with it also. But many many many are not. And that below 40 demo is huge.

  • BearDown100393

    McCoy clearly hurting, not positive he is the best option in this state for Bills run game but his heart is undeniable.

  • BearDown100393

    Tony Romo was an above average quarterback.

    Tony Romo is an even better commentator.

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    Buffalo might win this game just because playing in 50 degree weather in Florida must feel like Spring Break compared to their past few home games.

    • BearDown100393

      Bills are playing with house money today.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        also Bills might win this game just because SOMEBODY has to win this game.

  • SC Dave

    Bortles getting it done with the legs

  • Can Bortles Dilfer it to the SB?

    • willbest

      No because Steelers followed by Pats

      • BearDown100393

        Logic says one of those teams make a playoff run.

        Steelers have been up and down this season.

        Patriots have a weird distracted funk to them right now. They can deny it all they want. That crap tends to bite teams.

        Never know.

        • willbest

          what do you mean by up and down. They lost to 2 playoff teams and us.

          • BearDown100393

            I know.

            13 wins.

            IMO vulnerable to get taken out in their 1st game.

  • “as long as that defensive coach understands the impotence of the position.”

    A. I don’t think anyone on planet earth doesn’t realize how IMPORTANT the QB position is. Just nearly everyone gets it wrong.

    B. Impotence?

    • BearDown100393

      I think “B” and discussions on Richard Dreyfuss are interconnected somehow.

  • Also, if getting Wilks means getting some recycled OC like Turner, fogget about it.

    They’re usually out of the NFL for a reason.

    I’d rather gamble on some young blood ascending than a guy who’s still drawing up plays like it’s 2003.

    • BearDown100393

      Have not Bears fans suffered enough from Turner led offenses?

  • BearDown100393

    3rd wild card game this weekend.

    No excuses for the Bears to not at least be in the mix for 2018 season.

    • The Bears, even the Fox Bears, can beat either the Bills or Jags on a good day, and them on a bad.

      And in the playoffs, one team usually starts off clunky and it can snowball from there.

  • BearDown100393

    4th quarter and still ranting about the gawddamn Buffalo Mafia and Andy Dalton Foundation.

    Go Jacksonville.

  • How about the PI by the defender that knocked him out of bounds?

    Is that not reviewable?

  • RenoBear

    Bortles is just…. a tool. Such a tool

    • BearDown100393

      So was Dilfer.

      • BerwynBomber

        So was Cutler.

  • What the playoffs are showing me thus far is the importance of intelligence both in creating effective strategies before the game, and recognizing and adjusting in-game.

    The Rams-Falcons game is a good example.

    The Falcon’s D came in and dared a young Goff and questionable receiving corps to beat them.

    They manned up and loaded the box.

    They were not going to allow Gurley to get going early.

    The Rams O sputtered for much of the first half, and Gurley got his through out the game, but he couldn’t dominate like he has all-season.

    That’s smart.

    On O, they predicted Wade would try to take away the pass attack, so they began running, trying to mitigate the Rams speed with pitches and screens.

    Again. Smart.

    Took a while to really work, but they opened up the half with a 7 min drive, mostly running.

    Phillips, himself smart, adapted next drive selling out in the run.

    Falcons, anticipating, quickly switched back to the pass. In that drive they got that big WR screen, then finished it off with Julio one-on-one for a TD.

    That’s high-level chess playing, and that’s what the Bears have been missing in an HC for a loooong time.

    A guy who impresses us with his strategy and in-game adjustments.

    • BearDown100393

      Atlanta executed very well.

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    ..

    • BearDown100393

      Perfectly expressed.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        I deleted a comment thinking this game had set a playoff record for punts at 16. But 14 was only a team record. There were only 17 total punts this game.

        The playoff game record was Giants v. Bears at 23 in 1933.
        http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/records/playoffs/team/punting

        Watching this game only felt like it set that kind of record. Hey, there were fewer commercials, TV timeouts, and replays back then. This game must have been twice as long in real time.

  • EnderWiggin

    Head-slam to the turf.

    • BearDown100393

      KO’d.

  • BearDown100393

    Good night Buffalo.

    See ya in another 17 years.

  • BerwynBomber

    Wouldn’t be a fitting end to the Bills season w/out a Peterman INT.

  • Thompson, former best WR Bear, most likely cost Bills a chance.

    Stupid holding penalty which negated a big Shady run.

    Not going back to the ball and maybe allowing an INT.

    The FIRST thing they tell you as a WR – attack the ball. Go back to the ball.

    Don’t wait for it to come to your body.

    This is why.

    • BerwynBomber

      And Peterman …

      • That looked like a timing comeback route.
        Except, Thompson forgot to comeback. Ramsey didn’t.

      • BearDown100393

        In all fairness, tough to enter a game in that situation.

      • willbest

        what happened to tyrod?

        • BerwynBomber

          Concussion (presumably)/

          • willbest

            its playoff football, they only do the 2 finger test for that.

          • BearDown100393

            He was taken out of the game.

        • BearDown100393

          Back of the head driven to the turf.

    • BerwynBomber

      Don’t know if Taylor throws that ball. A contested comeback route by Thompson w/ Ramsey in coverage?
      Bit of a mismatch.

    • Big Mike

      When was Thompson a bear?

  • BearDown100393

    Blake Bortles

    Wild Card Game Winner.

    • BerwynBomber

      I didn’t realize he was such a good runner. Top four all-time average among QBs.

      Nice mention of Bobby Douglass there too. Closest we came to the post-season this year.

    • 88 yds running
      87 yds passing.

      Somewhere, Dilfer is smiling

      • BearDown100393

        Smiling & clinking a SB ring on the countertop.

  • BearDown100393

    Sean McDermott is an absolute tool.

  • BearDown100393

    Andy Dalton can shut off his Foundation Account now.

  • I love D as much as any Bears fan, but there’s something offensive about the idea of Bortles holding up a SB trophy.

    If it were like any other QB, I could probably root for them, but Bortles is the epitome of a 1st rd bust who’s ok cucking.

    • BerwynBomber

      They ain’t winning the SB.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        Jags wide receivers didn’t look elite that’s for sure.

    • BearDown100393

      That D was not really tested against Tyrod Taylor either.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      With his helmet on, Bortles looks like some kind of weird cross between Will Ferrell and Colin Farrell.

      I didn’t know what he looked like before. Did anybody else before this playoff game?

      • BearDown100393

        He looked the same.

        Like a draft bust.

    • willbest

      i was think bortles is a poor mans tebow

      • BearDown100393

        Or a rich man’s Jonathan Quinn.

    • evantonio

      Better or worse than Dilfer and Johnson?

      • Dilfer and Jonson, while terrible, were sorta under dog journeymen.

        Difler, while drafted in the 1st, was originally the backup by the time he got to the Ravens. So he was like an old Cutty type. A has been who never reached his potential, but put in the perfect situation.

        And Johnson was drafted in the 9th rd.

        Bortles is still on his #5 overall contract and has played horribly since entering the NFL.

        I mean, 87 yds passing!

        Wow.

        Then again, even Tebus won a playoff game.

        • SC Dave

          Bortles did well running tho.

          Whatever it takes.

          A win is a win is a win.

  • BerwynBomber

    Anyone else feeling a CAR upset?

    Saints seemed to limp to the finish line and it is tough to beat a good team three times in a season.

    • BearDown100393

      Brees is 4-1 @ New Orleans in POs.

    • Two big factors.

      Are Panthers gonna get pouty scared SB Cam?
      Or are they gonna get fedora superman flying Cam?

      Seems like there’s no inbetween with him.

      If it’s Superman Cam, I think they can pull the upset.

      I’m curious how they’re gonna try to stop Kamara.

      The Panther’s scheme tends to prevent big plays. And they have athletic LBs.

      But Kamara is playing out of this dimension.

      Should be a great game.

      • SC Dave

        I like your analysis. Too bad they let Ginn get a giant play.

  • BearDown100393

    Buck & Aikman doing the Hobo tribute on air.

    Bic needs to sponsor the FOX booth.

    • BerwynBomber

      Buck strikes me as guy who will be fighting his inherent dweeb-ness until he’s ninety.

  • BerwynBomber

    Bad playcall on 3rd and 2. Payton getting cute.

  • Oh, I forgot Peppers was on the Panthers.

    Man, dude is still a beast at his age.

    Luke went out to defend Kamara on pass pattern.

    Curious if that’s how they’re gonna defend him.

  • This feels a lot like old school vs new.

    Brees, traditional QB hitting 72%.

    Cam, best read-option QB.

    Both have robust run games who can catch out of backfield.

  • Little discussed about topic in the NFL.

    Both Tre’Davious White and Lattimore had FANTASTIC rookie seasons.

    I can’t recall one rook, yet alone two, playing at such high levels so fast.

    Maybe the college spread is creating more ready made CBs.

    • evantonio

      Clearly you forget Nathan Vasher.

      • The Interceptor.

        Bigger one hit wonder than Right Said Fred.

        • evantonio

          100%. But man… What a rookie season.

  • EnderWiggin
    • BerwynBomber

      Isn’t one of his spawn a zebra as well?

    • BearDown100393

      Your move Hochuli.

  • Wow. Shank!

    • evantonio

      The only possible followup to that Bearsian drop in the end zone.

    • EnderWiggin

      Oh, hell Gano!

  • SC Dave

    Oh Fuck. Joe Buck.

  • CaponeBot 1.0

    Remember when we put the offer in for Jeremy Hill and the Saints we’re like, “uh no”.

  • SC Dave

    Saints making plays. Panthers not.

  • BearDown100393

    Drew Brees = Touch downs
    Cam Newton = Field goals

  • EnderWiggin

    What a kick!

  • BerwynBomber

    Bad play by Lattimore on first down made that FG possible.

  • BerwynBomber

    The Drew Brees Show thus far. A clinic by the future HoFer against one of our interviewees.

    • BearDown100393

      The front page posts are hexing the candidates so far.

    • willbest

      wonder if this is brees last hurrah

      • BearDown100393

        If NO wins the SB…..

        • willbest

          i would retire rather than have my carcass dragged around a la manning

          • BearDown100393

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  • BerwynBomber

    Weirdly enough, it seems CAR has been the better team. There seems to be more holes in the Saints D.

    CAR just hasn’t capitalized in the RZ. This thing ain’t over.

  • BearDown100393

    Cam Newton plays mentally constipated at times.

  • BearDown100393

    Rivera on the sideline like a witness to a car accident.

  • SC Dave

    Maybe the posts need to be 20 yards past the goal line* instead of 10.

    55+ FG becoming commonplace.

    * at least indoors

    • BerwynBomber

      Or we just ban dome stadiums.

      But that will never happen because of potential SB greed.

  • Looks like Pouty Cam is out now.

  • BerwynBomber

    Brees has some very long arms for a dude his size.

  • McCaffrey is a good player, but he lacks the explosion of some other RBs in his mold like Kamara and Hunt.

  • As lopsided as this game has felt, if the Panthers score a TD here, all the pressure goes back to NO.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, this is far from over.

      Actually CAR has dominated this game in terms of ToP. Been all about RZ efficiency.

  • Is it me, or does Cam seem disinterested?

    • BerwynBomber

      It’s Cam’s cooler than thou ‘tude. Never been a fan of it.
      That said, there right in the middle of this.

  • Finally! Olsen in the house.

    He might be their only reliable weapon.

  • Isn’t Luke supposed to be the best MLB?

    He needs to rally his guys like Lach would and make an impact play somehow.

    • Bender McLugh

      He’s never been as good as Lach for that reason, in my opinion anyway

      • SC Dave

        It’s a tough call. I go with Brian because of longevity. The early career trajectory is really close, maybe tiny edge to Luke

        • BerwynBomber

          Kuechly has averaged a significantly higher # of PDs and INTs his first six years. But Lach runs circles around him in terms of sacks and, I presume, TFLs.

          I’d lean Lach. But Kuechly’s right there. Helluva player.

        • Bender McLugh

          oh without a doubt I agree he’s a beast

    • SC Dave

      Well, they just got the ball back, so there’s that

    • BerwynBomber

      Well the vaunted NO rushing attack only has 33 yards for the entire game.

  • I’m rooting for the Panthers for some reason. Maybe cuz they’re the dogs. Or chico. or Luke. Or I’m tired of hearing about the Saints.

    But I hope they pull it out.

    I would’ve loved to have seen an Brees-Wentz duel, but now that isn’t possible, wouldn’t mind seeing a Keenum-Cam matchup.

  • If I’m Chico, a draw up a run play or two for Cam.

    He seems to get more pumped once he runs a little.

  • SC Dave

    Game over. Cam done on protocol

    • Cam will clear it somehow.

      It almost looks like his eye got poked, but he’s wearing a vizor

      • SC Dave

        I fucking hope so. Dude is a warrior

  • SC Dave

    Wow. Backup moment?

  • BuddhaJoe

    Man if Brady got hit like that they’d probably kick the guy out of the league.

    • SC Dave

      Probably

  • Panther’s Oline fucked them in that drive.

    DT completely knifed through, Cam barely escaped, then got crushed.

    Then in the very next play, the OT doesn’t chop Cam Jordan down, and he knocks down the screen.

    Panthers keep thinking Cam can make up for subpar Oline, and a lot of the time it gets him murdered.

  • Big Mike

    Brees is good at playing QB.

    • BerwynBomber

      Just a little …

  • BerwynBomber

    That drive was all about Brees’ broken play rollout. A killer.

  • BuddhaJoe

    That’s the game. Would’ve liked to see Chico win but I don’t hate the Saints so good for them.

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    That was a good tackle in the end zone.

  • BerwynBomber

    This resembles the old Saints.
    All Brees.
    No D. No rushing attack.

  • BuddhaJoe

    Guess I spoke too soon. Hadn’t seen much of McCaffery but damn.

  • That looked almost exactly like what Hunt did to the Pats in the first Chief’s game.

    And that folks is why hands on HBs matter.

  • BearDown100393

    Win or lose, Newton was a warrior today.

    Hopefully he will remember this game in 3 years time.

  • Let’s see how Chico stops the Aints.

  • BerwynBomber

    If CAR can get the ball back they’ll win this.

    This Saints D looks the same as it always did. A sieve.

  • YUGE 3rd.
    I bet Peyton PA and passes it to TE or something.

  • Wow. Not sure how you can stop that.

  • Pepp still stronger than guys half his age.

    • BearDown100393

      He paces himself.

    • SC Dave

      He ain’t THAT old. Call ii 3/5.

  • BerwynBomber

    Wow! Payton takes it outta Brees’ hand on 3rd and 2???
    Insane …

  • Does Peyton go for it on 4rth?

  • Peyton’s going for it? a delay of game isn’t that big o deal at the 50,

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    Fire Sean Peyton.

    • willbest

      why

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        okay if he loses this game, give him a dirty look and Saints fans should thank him for the Super Bowl win.

        But getting too cute is a bad sign like that 4th down play.

      • AlbertInTucson

        He is just parroting Beardown.

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          4th down play at midfield seemed odd when Panthers have no timeouts.

          • willbest

            it wins the game

        • BearDown100393

          The nerve….

  • BerwynBomber

    Why waste a TO there?
    Very, very bad sequence for Payton.

  • BearDown100393

    Derp to both sides.

  • Don’t think that’s an INT.

    • willbest

      gotta teach dbs to bat that down

      • SC Dave

        Chico

  • BerwynBomber

    Payton lost his mind.
    Wow …

    • willbest

      vegas

  • SC Dave

    Unreal.

    • SC Dave

      Fucking *guarantee* that had it been to the Saints advantage to review the dropped interception, it would have happened.

      Instead, the Panthers lose 20 yards of field position with no abaility to appeal becuase it was inside 2 minutes.

      Vegas wins again.

      • willbest

        it was a TO it got reviewed

        • BerwynBomber

          But other than that … conspiracy!

        • SC Dave

          Did it? Is it just another example of not knowing what is, and is not, a catch?

          I don’t think he actually caught it, despite the fact he was TOO FUCKING STUPID to know he shouldn’t

  • BearDown100393

    Fire Ron Rivera.

    • willbest

      ink isn’t even dry on his 2 year extension

      • BearDown100393

        Fire him anyway.

        Do not even allow him back on the flight to Carolina.

        And….. if Pace was ready to fly him to Chicago that would be alright also.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Jailbreak.

  • BearDown100393

    Newton looked awfully casual in that shotgun.

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    Newton would have had a touchdown on his last throw with a slightly better receiver.

    • evantonio

      Braverman?

      • BearDown100393

        Never misses a completion.

        NEVER

    • They let Benjamin go thinking Funchess could be the guy.

      Guess not.

  • AlbertInTucson

    That missed chip shot early looms pretty large late.

    • evantonio

      i’d say the missed TD leading to the missed chip shot looms a bit larger.

      • Yup.

        Gotta make that catch in the endzone

        Cam actually was pretty accurate from the start.

        No one stepped up for him till later Olsen and McCaffrey.

        • SC Dave

          White guys, by the way.

      • AlbertInTucson

        All the needed late was that 3. No points in the red zone is a killer.

        • evantonio

          So it’s better to need 3 to win than to be up by 4?

          • AlbertInTucson

            I’m on record.

            “Take what you’re given.”

            Especially in the 1st half.

            Right up there with when to go for 2.

    • BerwynBomber

      Their entire first half RZ inefficiency loomed large.

  • evantonio

    Anyone else see the false start on that sack play?

  • BerwynBomber

    Sean Payton …. you got very, very lucky.

    Sorry, Andy Reid.

  • Panther’s Oline killed them again.

    Cam Jordan goes right through the RT AND McCaffrey for the huge sack/intentional grounding on Cam.

    I would’ve tried one screen in that situation. Suck up the pass rush and dump it off to McCaffrey who was balling.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Trying to block Jordan with the tiny McCaffrey.

      Who thought up THAT plan?

      • Well, the RT was SUPPOSED to block him or at least slow him down, but he went right through him like he were Casper.

        McCaffrey had NO shot at that point, and Cam was right there expecting his max protect to block.

        Game. Blouses.

  • BerwynBomber

    Brees’s first half and CAR’s RZ inefficiency were the ultimate difference.

    But Sean Payton damn near blew that game.

  • Queens are gonna demolish the Saints.

    They’re gonna molest Brees like Spacey on a binger.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, that looked like the same old Saints — all Brees, little else.

      If Kamara and Ingram and their D play like they did today, they will get wiped out.

      • SC Dave

        Panthers are a pretty good team, BB

  • BerwynBomber

    Pretty solid WC weekend. Really only one non-competitive game in ATL/LAR.

    • willbest

      next week looks pretty 1 sided. i bet we will see some historic point spreads.

    • ButtonShoes

      You thought the Bills/Jags game was competitive? I wanted to claw my eyes out watching that. Kept watching it though because, you know…football.

  • SC Dave

    Ok…so I had a few beers in me but…

    Please explain either my fault in memory, or the rule…

    Panthers DB drops an INT on 4th down with1:56(ish) left in the game. [Granted he was an imbecile to not just slap the ball down,but…]

    I thought all change of possessions in the last two minutes were supposed to be automatically reviewed on referee timeouts. That play was not.

    Why not?

    • BerwynBomber

      I assumed they did. But I also assumed it was an INT and didn’t keep my eye on the screen immediately afterward.

      I was too busy typing what an idiot Payton is.

    • It didn’t look like an INT to me either, SC. (and I was sober).

      And I also assumed they would review it from a million angles like they do everything else.

      They seemed just to say it was an INT and placed 15 yds back.

      Dunno if it was or wasn’t an INT cuz they never really slow-mo reviewed it.

      Unless that was the first replay in NFL history which NY streamlined in a timely fashion.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Was a Viagra joke already made?

  • BerwynBomber

    Sat 3:35 ATL @ PHI NBC
    Sat 7:15 TEN @ NE CBS
    Sun 12:05 JAX @ PIT CBS
    Sun 3:40 NO @ MIN FOX

    • BearDown100393

      Looks good

  • FresnoBear88

    Now we are on Wilks nutsack

  • RenoBear

    According to El Jefe’s twitter feed and follow up to my question… it looks like McDaniels might actually be the guy, or at least truly in the running..,

    • AlbertInTucson

      DeFilippo, supposedly, made strong impression in HIS interview.

      • RenoBear

        I still lean towards flip as well, Denver McDaniels leaves a real bad taste in my mouth.. but ALL accounts say he’s matured greatly in the last ten years… I know I’M not the same guy at 42 that I was at 32..

  • Irish Sweetness

    This is my guy. D-Fens.
    “Wilks is considered to be a great leader and excellent communicator”
    That’ll do.

  • Irish Sweetness

    TEN +9
    BUF +9
    CAR +7

    8/1 as recommended!

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