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Notes on the Nagy Coaching Staff

| January 15th, 2018


It’s okay to get excited about a new coaching staff.

It doesn’t mean you irrationally believe that staff is going to cure all that ails the franchise you root for; in this case your Chicago Bears. It doesn’t mean the good players will now become great players and the bad players good players. It just means you believe a new collection of leaders, a new assemblage of ideas has the chance to change things for the better.

When John Fox hired Adam Gase and Vic Fangio to be his offensive and defensive coordinators (respectively) there was nary a negative word to be written. Gase was the hottest young offensive assistant in the game, having interviewed for several head-coaching vacancies. Fangio was a steady rock of a coordinator, coming off his most successful stint in the league. Did it work out? No. But was that any fault of the initial coordinator hires? Doubtful. That blame falls on quarterback turnover, a tsunami of injuries and a head coach watching the game blow by like a Dakotan tumbleweed.

This is a coaching staff to get excited about. And fans should allow themselves that moment of excitement, even if it is only a moment. There are many reasons why.

  • When I ask my friends in the league to name the best offensive line coaches in the sport, three names surface: Dante Scarnecchia (the gold standard), Mike Munchak (will be employed in the NFL for 30 more years) and Harry Hiestand. Hiestand’s first time around with the Bears was exceptional but over the last five years he’s built Notre Dame’s OL into one of the most consistently dominating position groups in the nation. Of all the hires Nagy made this week, this is the most impressive.
  • But don’t get wrapped up in how this effects the draft. Yes, I believe Quenton Nelson is the best player entering the NFL next season and would be THRILLED to see him in Chicago. But the Bears would have known his ability with or without Hiestand on the staff. All having Hiestand at Halas Hall does is eliminate the need for lengthy pre-draft meetings with the ND guard. (The same can be said for the other major league prospect off this unit, tackle Mike McGlinchey.)

  • Mark Helfrich is the offensive coordinator but he’s not going to call plays. This means what interested Nagy were the concepts Helfrich would bring to a professional offense from the college ranks. An article in the Tampa Bay Times from 2015 did a nice job summarizing the Oregon offense. (Read the entire piece by CLICKING HERE.) But here’s a passage worth pointing out:

3. It’s confusing

Oregon’s connection with zone-read option runs is well known. Quarterback Marcus Mariota (left) reads the defense, then decides whether to keep the ball or hand it off to a running back (or receiver).

The Ducks passing game is equally confusing for defenses. Mariota threw the ball 27 times during the first half of the Rose Bowl. All but five of those passes involved some sort of misdirection: a pump fake to a receiver, a designed quarterback rollout, a fake handoff to a teammate, or some combination of the three.

According to profootballfocus.com, Mariota used play action on 51 percent of his 372 passes during the regular season.

  • Chris Tabor’s special teams units were nothing to write home about in Cleveland. But when the bottom of the roster is as poor as Cleveland’s has been, how can anyone expect anything else? Tabor is a well-respected coach around the league but if the Bears don’t make personnel improvements in their kicking game (namely, the kickers), he could be Dave Toub II and it wouldn’t matter.
  • Charles London (RB) might have the easiest job on this new staff. He’s really the only one coming into a position room with a stacked deck.
  • Mike Furrey (WR) played for the Lions and produced under Mike Martz. He also was a teammate of Nagy’s in the Arena League and coached at some college called Limestone. And there’s video!

  • Both London and Furrey are known for their intensity. This is going to be a young, hungry staff on the offensive side.
  • Kevin M. Gilbride (TE) is the son of the great offensive coordinator, Kevin Gilbride, who ushered the Eli offense in New York to two Super Bowl titles before being scapegoated by management and forced into retirement. He’s young. He’s hungry. And he was lauded for his work with rookie Evan Engram in 2017.
  • When Ryan Pace interviewed Nagy he asked him to consider keeping both Dave Ragone (QB) and Frank Smith (TE). Smith is now in Oakland. Bears are actively seeking Ragone’s replacement, calling for both Houston’s Pat O’Hara and Oakland’s Todd Downing. This is Nagy’s staff.
  • A debate broke out over social media on the importance of re-hiring Vic Fangio. One side argued it’d be good to have the veteran DC back but not a necessity. The other side argued the defense would cease to progress without him, falling off a cliff, back to the age of Mel Tucker. The truth is simpler. Bringing Fangio back was a no-brainer. The language stays the same. The talent assembled doesn’t require re-configuring. The voice at the front of the defensive meeting room stays consistent. Could this group have survived without Fangio? Possibly. But there was absolutely no reason to find out.
  • Does Fangio’s return mean anything for Kyle Fuller’s return? I don’t know. What I do know is the two developed a close relationship last off-season. There’s nobody closer to Fuller in the Bears organization than Fangio.
  • Per Mark Potash of the Sun-Times, Fangio is the first defensive coordinator retained by a new head coach since Buddy Ryan in 1982. A few years later the Bears were champions.

This is not only a good staff. It’s an interesting one. And it will be exciting to see what this team looks like in Bourbonnais. Now they need more good players.

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  • ButtonShoes

    “It just means you believe a new collection of leaders, a new assemblage of ideas has the chance to change things for the better.”

    As is, I can get behind this statement. It’s reasonable and sensible. What I won’t accept is people transforming “has the chance to change things for the better” into “will 100% change things for the better and we’re going to the playoffs/Super Bowl and Trubisky/Nagy are the next Brady/Belichick.” Let’s just see if they can win, oh…I don’t know, 7 games. Let them at least clear that low bar before we start losing our minds here.

    • BearDown100393

      Win a damn divisional game.

  • That Guy

    I fucking hate the Vikings.

    • AfroCelt

      Just think of it this way….

      The local (Green Bay Area) new stadium was absolutely disgusted reporting on it. It’s bald faced jealousy. And anything that makes spoiled Packer fans unhappy is alright in my book.

      • ThompsonWay

        Which station was that again? I am also suck here in enemy territory.

        • AfroCelt

          Fox 11…Pete something or other. I’m in Appleton…you?

          • ThompsonWay

            Thanks, I’m in Allouez (or E. GB area).

      • Yup.

        Packer fans hate the Vikes, and it’s mutual.

        • AfroCelt

          fun fact: game weekend with most arrests in Green Bay? Packer-Viks. Second? Packer-Bears

          The more you know…?

    • Big Mike

      It was a great game. Kudos to the Vikings. Why hate? They built a good team.

    • Bear Instincts

      Why hate? If its the Cheese yeah sure. But the vikings. This current Vikings team is everything we should dream of being: strong defense and a competent offense plus a a coach who is competent.

      • leftcoastdave

        I’m happy to see the division well represented and agree with you wholeheartedly. It also points out to me why we need to use that #1 pick on OL.

      • BearDown100393

        All the more reason Pace should have waited it out and hire Pat Shurmur and strip the OC away from a tough divisional opponent and gut that staff like a stuck pig.

        • Scharfinator

          Unless, you know, he waited then couldn’t get Shurmur to sign and we were left with a Trestman clone.

          • BearDown100393

            You make him an offer he cannot refuse

          • Scharfinator

            Why doesn’t every team do that every time?

    • BearDown100393

      So do I. So do I.

  • Big Mike

    I’ve only seen a few comments on the point spread/no XP at the end of the saints/vikings game. Spread was 4.5-5.5 all week. Not kicking the XP switched millions of dollars… .

    • leftcoastdave

      With no time left, the V was the only thing to do.

      Still funny (or sinister) how accurate those spreads usually are.

      • Big Mike

        I agree that the Vikings did the right thing. Although at first I thought they’d just kick it, no big deal. But when they did the V, it made sense.

        • leftcoastdave

          After watching the games this weekend, one thing is clear in my mind: da Bears need to get a top O lineman with that first round pick. We’ve got the talent positions and a very good and deep D with only a few needs, but all contenders start with a great O line.

          • Big Mike

            Our oline is getting there. I’m love to take the OG from Notre Dame, Nelson, or a top Tackle at 1. But it might be better to hope for a Cody Whitehair type pick at 2. Edge Rusher at 1 might put the defense over the top. Some are saying WR. I’m still traumatized by the Kevin White pick.

          • Bear Instincts

            Denver will get Nelson if they sign a FA QB….we are most likely getting McGlinchey or A.Key is the Bucs take Chubb. WR makes not sense to me when they can be had in FA and the later rounds.

          • Big Mike

            Nelson at 5? I thought people would flip with the Bears taking a G at 8. Who knows right? Who say Trubisky coming last year? It will be fun to watch. McGlinchey would not be a consolation prize. Chubb might be there a lot of choices at 8 if 3 QBs and Saquon come off the list ahead of the Bears.

          • Bear Instincts

            This is my projecting for the first 8 picks. trades have not been taken into consideration because most teams at the top need a QB and I don’t see them leaving this draft without one.

            1-Brown – Darnold
            2-Giants – J.Rosen
            3-Colts – S.Barkley/ILB/OL/EDGE
            4-Brown – M.Fitzpatrick
            5-Broncos – Q.Nelson (FA QB:A.Smith or K.Cousins)
            6-Jets – J.Allen/A.Key
            7-Bucs – EDGE (Bradley Chubb)/RB (Saquon Barkley)
            8-Bears – EDGE or OT

          • Big Mike

            That’s as good a first take as anyone has. And now we’ll be doing this for 4 months 🙁

          • leftcoastdave

            Yup! And speculating on a trade down for more picks.

          • Big Mike

            If it could happen, this would be the year. The skins at 13 are going to need a QB if they don’t sign Cousins. The Cardinals at 15 need a QB. But they might want to jump up higher unless they are happy with the 4th or 5th QB on the board. I don’t know if there is a lot of trading up to get the 8th pick if you aren’t looking for a QB. My guess is it would cost a 3rd round pick to move up from 13 or 15 to 8. Don’t see it happening.

            One nice thing not talked about a lot. We have the 5th pick of the 2nd round. That’s a fantastic slot.

          • Bear Instincts

            Pace will likely stand still at 8. Trading up is very unlikely. But I can definitely see him selling the 2nd round pick

          • Big Mike

            I think staying at 8 is likely. We all know he’d like a 3rd round pick. If he sees a “thick” board he loves to wheel and deal.

          • carlito

            yes, he’ll do that in a heart beat but if someone slips into the top picks who isn’t there now we could get Nelson and who cares what anybody thinks, he’s the best lineman in the draft or take his buddy the tackle!!!!

          • Irish Sweetness

            If he gives up the second on top of the third …. then we reach the point where the red dot on his forehead gets filled in with lead …

          • leftcoastdave

            The Bills are rich with two in the first and two in the second, no’s 21, 22, 53 and 56. They also need a QB. It would be great to get their two first rounders for the 8 to be able to get both an Edge and a top notch OT. Maybe giving up the second (39) for their second at 53 could get that done or some other combination of picks exchanged with da Bears getting an extra good pick out of the exchange and still have the potential to trade up from 21, keeping the 22 and a lower second.

            Like I posted this morning, that is the next game we get to play. Speculation on FA, the draft and potential trades of draft slots.

          • Big Mike

            Wasn’t aware of the Bills situation. Man that would be awesome. But do one of the top guys last until 8? I’ve heard 5 could go first round. But not top 10. At the same time, if you see your QB, you move up to get him. Would they package both 1s? Seems steep. But they’d be moving up 13 spots. Oh the intrigue of the draft…

          • Irish Sweetness

            Cleveland have 5 picks in the first two rounds!

          • leftcoastdave

            And they need every one of them! I’m looking at who might be willing to trade up for that 8 to be able to get both a great Edge and a great OT. The Bills are rich relative to their needs and may want to get up there in the top ten for a QB.

          • Irish Sweetness

            The off-season.

            We need to kill some deer and cut some wood.

          • I think either Mayfield/Rudolph will sneak into the top 8 too.

            Lots of teams desperate for QBs.

          • carlito

            I expect the Bears to have a top 5 pick because of qb’s going fast or a big trade down!!!!

          • Big Mike

            That seems to be the consensus. Top 5 non QB. 3 QBs and Saquon Barkley going before the Bears are up. No need to trade down even.

          • leftcoastdave

            I was Edge first until this weekend. McGlinchey might be able to take over for Leno who might do better at RT. We’ve got a number of pieces who can fit in the middle for one more year, especially if Grassu can make the cut after Hiestand gets his hands on him. But the Ts have been average at best and time to upgrade while the very well known talent is there.

          • CanadaBear

            Why move Leno for a maybe? Everything I’ve read McG is projected in the 3rd rd. HH is not a miracle worker. Grasu is not NFL quality.

          • leftcoastdave

            That’s the great thing about Hiestand as coach, he’ll know better than anyone. If McG fits, moving Leno over to RT upgrades that spot and frees up money by cutting Massie. Lots of pieces there on the line for Heistadt to analyze, but this weekend showed the importance of a top notch O line to protect Mitchell and maintain time of possession.
            All that said, still appreciate the Edge argument and what that can do for the D.

          • carlito

            Massie, looks to be more of a guard

          • Big Mike

            Didn’t the Bears try to line Leno up at RT and he struggled there. If there’s a first round graded LT on your draft board you take him. Always. Grasu’s issue isn’t coachable. He just can’t get stronger. He might fit the zone blocking scheme well. But the saying is “he’s just light”. Some guys play bigger than their weight. Grasu plays smaller.

          • carlito

            Yes, they did and Leno failed miserably, they won’t try him at RT again!!!

          • carlito

            Leno is worst at RT!!!!!

          • Bender McLugh

            Wrong dude, wow

            Edit – my mistake, not his regular position

          • carlito

            Grassu, is a weakling and is a liability period, he’s a cut!!!!

          • Irish Sweetness

            And who drafted him? Ryan Pace. Our center of the future.

          • CanadaBear

            With the new O and lots of quick throws, I think OL should take a back seat to DL/Edge rusher. 100% about WR.

          • Big Mike

            The Tackle from ND McGlinchey or Nelson might be too good to pass on. Chubb on the inside. I don’t know much about the edge rushers. Hoping pace can find a guy like Whitehair in the second round. Hiestand the new OL coach can make a first rounder out of raw talent. That’s my belief. He’s that good. His insight on Nelson and McGlinchey will tell us a lot. Does he think they can continue to get better, or are they finished products. Is there a guy out there he likes that’s not on the radar.

            The real question is do you try to put the Defense over the top with a pick, (build strength) or pick a guy that makes your offense better. Scheme alone wont do it. We need weapons. Does he try to do that in FA? Need WRs.

            The thing that stinks is by the time the draft gets here, we’ll have had this conversation a hundred times.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            I’m just as interested in Hiestand’s take on some of the pass rushers coming out. He game planned against some really good ones last year.

          • Big Mike

            Hadn’t thought about that. Good take

            Get Outlook for iOS

          • Bear Instincts

            Put the defense over the top. Just look at the games this weekend. Offense wins games. Defense wins championships

          • Big Mike

            We are so far away on offense….

          • Bear Instincts

            Look at the playoffs Mike. We need one side of the ball to dominate. Let it be the Defense. FA WR’s with experience from better teams can help MT10 mature faster.

          • Big Mike

            I was posing the question. I’ve always tended to lean towards building strength. But with this team, does that mean FA or Draft of Defense. We all know it comes down to who is there and how Pace has them graded, not against this year’s but based on how he has them projecting in the NFL. Is this a weak WR draft, strong at edge, etc. We can’t hang MT out to dry. But a great defense makes the offense better. I don’t have a strong opinion either way yet. But FA will tip his hand.

          • Irish Sweetness

            D-Fens. Absolutely. If it has to be one or the other .. and this offense will be a CF for a couple years …

          • Irish Sweetness

            Not with Fournette! Bortles is in the playoffs!

            {IRISH! NO!}

            Hey … it’s the What-If thread ….

          • Big Mike

            I know. Here’s the best what if. I wish I could take credit for it. We all know that trading back isn’t likely. Not because it isn’t a good move, but because so many things have to fall into place and there are more sellers than buyers. But leftcoastdave, proposed this dream scenario.

            “The Bills are rich with two in the first and two in the second, no’s 21, 22, 53 and 56.They also need a QB. It would be great to get their two first rounders for the
            8 to be able to get both an Edge and a top notch OT. Maybe giving up the second (39) for their second at 53 could get that done or some other combination of picks exchanged with da Bears getting an extra good pick out of the exchange and still have the potential to trade up from 21, keeping the 22 and a lower second”

          • To a certain extent we must trust Fangio more than this brand new O staff, so IMO, might have to lean that way in this draft.

            We know Fangio can make lemonade from lemons, dunno that about Nagy et al.

            Also, we have a #2 pick at QB.

            That’s a substantial investment that needs to be complemented.

            Don’t wanna Luck him.

          • Big Mike

            Or Cutler him, right? Years of getting the shit kicked out of him trying to throw to Devin Hester as a 1 ruined him. I really don’t know. I’d really like an impact player in RD 1. If that’s an edge guy so be it. If the LT is graded higher so be it. I don’t know if Rookie LTs every really shine. It takes a while. Sometimes they move from RT to LT. Ridley from Al, is he a scheme fit? I don’t know. We need to block for MT, he needs a really fast guy and a bunch of guys who can get open and make yards after catch. Everybody knows that. Pace knows that. What does the draft board tell him? That’s always a mystery. Just hope he crushes it again this year

          • Irish Sweetness

            “We know Fangio can make lemonade from lemons,”

            I haven’t seen any lemonade, Butch. Haven’t tasted that in a while. There’s a warm, piss-colored liquid in the bottle all right ….

          • carlito

            Edge is hardest to get

          • Big Mike

            Not true. A top NFL ready LT comes along once every few years.

          • SC Dave

            I say “no” on the WR.

          • Big Mike

            Need’em. That means overpaying FA.

          • carlito

            That’s ok, you can’t have it both ways and we have the money for 2 good wr’s , to cover us if one gets hurt, this is the year that Pace pays for fa’s because this team is at a point where its necessary to do this and we will attract top fa’s this year!!!!

          • SC Dave

            I also think it more likely that Pace looks for longer-term FA contracts since he has “his guys” on staff now.

          • SC Dave

            That’s fine. I meant with our first draft pick.

          • Irish Sweetness

            ‘Need’ a rookie WR?

            He’d be ready right about the time MT has the offense down.

          • Big Mike

            I know. It’s a devil’s choice.

          • I’d not for drafting an OG as a top 10 pick.

            Mostly because the difference between a 1st and 3rd rd OG is usually negligible.

            I bet most of the AP OGs weren’t drafted as a top10 pick.

          • Big Mike

            I don’t think I would either. Jonathan Cooper in 2013 is the only G drafted in the top 10 since 1990.

          • and look how that turned out.
            I remember everyone on Da Blog loved him, including me.

            Go figure.

          • Big Mike

            Exactly.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Wow.

          • Big Mike

            Right? I would look in the 2nd round for OL.

          • Irish Sweetness

            This Nelson guy is supposed to good though – I’ve seen him mocked as high as 3.

          • carlito

            There’s no value in taking a wr when edge is hardest to find compared to the other positions but oline in fa or draft is necessary!!!!

          • Big Mike

            All things being equal, I can see an edge rusher at 8 over a WR every day. Maybe the only position over edger rusher is a LT that they have rated very highly.

          • Irish Sweetness

            The OG or the OT, yep. Safe pick. Do it.

    • DaBearsBlog

      I ended up pushing (losing vig) which was WAY better than the alternative.

      • Big Mike

        So if they had kicked it, you’d have lost? You had the Saints giving 5 or 5.5?

      • BearDown100393

        So you drink and gamble. Awesome.

        • CaponeBot 1.0

          ????

          • Irish Sweetness

            He-hee!

  • Bear Instincts
    • BearDown100393

      He deserved to be fired.

      • willbest

        Not a strong comment from you considering you have made it after every poorly executed play the last two weeks.

        • BearDown100393

          Do not care. That staff quit.

        • SC Dave

          Are any of his comments strong? After about two weeks of nothing but weakness, I blocked him. Certainly, nothing has changed?

          • BearDown100393

            Don’t care.

    • BerwynBomber

      Good move. Never understood why they replace Wisenhunt with Mularkey in the first place. Wisenhunt seemed the better HC.

    • Shu

      LOL @ Colts for now losing out on another coach they wanted to hire. I guess they will have to hope Plan C works out.

      • Scharfinator

        I’m missing how the Colts lose a candidate here. Did TN already announce the replacement?

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          probably just implying that the Titans appear to be a more desirable landing spot. Lot of issues with Indy, especially since Luck is still an unknown.

          • Scharfinator

            That makes sense to me. Indy has been a rough spot for a long time – I blame Peyton Manning as he covered up so many of their organization’s flaws for so long.

          • CanadaBear

            I think the real problem might lie with an absolute wreck of a human being for an owner.

          • BearDown100393

            Irsey and McDaniels belong together.

          • Scharfinator

            That guy certainly does the franchise no favors.

          • SC Dave

            Kinda like Vadgers, eh?

    • Irish Sweetness

      I felt his passing in my waters. He just looked like a walk-on last weekend.

      Has a coach ever been fired after making the playoffs that year?

  • willbest

    Pats are only giving 9 points. That is some healthy respect for the Jags.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Amazing what putting up 45 on the Steelers in Heinz will do for a team.

      • Bear Instincts

        they respect the defense

    • John F

      Take the Pats, gonna be a blowout by the end of the first quarter …..

      • BearDown100393

        Pitt had the same thoughts.

        Pitt was wrong.

        • John F

          Pitt lost to the Bears, so …….. not a very good team

          • BearDown100393

            I called them out awhile ago. The experts here ridiculed. And of course they were wrong as usual.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Can the Pats stop Fournette? If yes, Mortgage the house on them …

      If not …

  • AlbertInTucson
    • EnderWiggin

      Sheesh, isn’t that the first rule in pro sports? Don’t talk smack/give predictions before something happens?

    • BearDown100393

      The Steelers are garbage.

  • Donny34

    Remember when Brett Hundley beat the Bears?

    • CaponeBot 1.0

      shut the fuck up Donny

      • Donny34

        At least the Browns took the Packers to OT

        • CaponeBot 1.0

          Donny, Please….

          • Donny34

            the chinaman is not the issue.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            Donny you’re out of your element.

          • Pretty Boy Assassin

            I am the walrus.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Koo koo ka choo?

          • Pretty Boy Assassin

            V I Lennon…Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)
        • CaponeBot 1.0

          now that I got that out of my system I will be blocking young Donny and he can fade into obscurity. I was selfishly feeding him, giving him nourishment, giving him attention and now I must take that attention away. He will be hurt, he will reach out and try to reengage but to no avail. He has now been blocked forever more.

          • We already have Beardown for the cynical one liners.

            Donny’s trying to steal his stichck.

          • BearDown100393

            Donny hates the Bears.
            I hate the rest of the NFL.

            Huge difference.

          • SC Dave

            Just block ’em both. It’s amazing how much the quality of the blog increases when you do so.

          • BearDown100393

            Keep it going.

          • AlbertInTucson

            At least he had the stones to be registered, as opposed to some other trolls who are allowed to roam, unfettered by registration.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Waffle, I’m gambling. I just pulled some very real money out of some large cap funds that have been on a tear and stuffed it into a piggy bank. I’m looking for a 7-10% pullback in the near term. And back in we go.

            Whatchu think? Think I fucked myself?

          • willbest

            What do you think is going to cause this pullback? The stock market is based on emotion not logic? Fed aggressive rate hike, missed Q1 earnings by market leaders, Government shutdown over DACA, Rocketman hitting some random japanese Island, Mueller claiming POTUS obstructed justice, bitcoin crash, some other country going full Venezuela, a successful Hodgkinson

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            Gambling losses with the Jags beating the Patriots.

            The game was supposed to be fixed due to national security reasons, but Kim Jong un’s weather-making machine struck Tom Brady down with a bolt of lightning at Foxboro.

            The lightning did not phase him and he got right back up, but during an instant replay of the lightning strike to determine how much time was left on the clock Tom slipped on a patch of ice and broke his leg.

            Jaguars win.

            Stocks crash on Black Ice Monday.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            haha, when i first started reading the post i thought you were going to tell me that you pulled the large cap positions so you could put it on the Patriots.

            Honestly, i don’t know what the market it going to do but if you’re looking for a pull back it might be further away than you think. The good news is that as long as you don’t spend it on rims, purple drank, sugar babies, cocaine, a jags/philly parlay or Walmart’s new crypto currency then you’ll do just fine.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            “Babe, I took half of the blue chips out on this 3 week 401k loan. We’re going all in on the Pats. Brady’s got this.” (Furiously packing an overnight bag.)

            I left 2/3 in the large caps and moved 1/3 off to the side. Just gonna wait a bit, move back in on the next dip. If there’s a dip…………

          • Irish Sweetness

            Eutherum man, Eutherum.

    • Bear Instincts

      why do you like to traumatize us?

      • Donny34

        boredom mostly.

        • Bear Instincts

          remember the time be put a hurting on the panthers?

    • BearDown100393

      Yes.

  • Donny34

    2018 is Kevin White’s year.

    • EnderWiggin

      2018 is Kevin White’s year (to get cut after preseason).

      • CanadaBear

        Although before getting cut there will be numerous posters speculating what he will bring in a trade.

        • BearDown100393

          Getting anything for Kevin White and his leg filled with pins & screws would be impressive.

        • willbest

          Think we could get a competent strength and condition coach for him?

          • CanadaBear

            Sold!

    • carlito

      What kind of drugs are you taking Donny, he has a metal rod in his leg and couldn’t run routes before and since being drafted, but I hope you are right and you are a funny guy funny guy!!!!!

    • Irish Sweetness

      It certainly needs to be.

  • Donny34

    Your best lineman is a former Packer. Lane Taylor also > Sitton.

    • Pretty Boy Assassin

      Thank you very much. If you want to throw away Bulaga for nothing, that’d be fine too. We’d be happy to take Adams off your hands.

      You keep Roid Barbie though. Fucker can’t even recognize a wheel route.

  • “It’s okay to get excited about a new coaching staff.

    It doesn’t mean you irrationally believe that staff is going to cure all that ails the franchise you root for; It doesn’t mean the good players will now become great players and the bad players good players. It just means you believe a new collection of leaders, a new assemblage of ideas has the chance to change things for the better.” – Jeff

    Hear hear. Many Bear fans are, rightfully, traumatized. Back-to-Back Trestman-Fox hires has been brutal, and in case you haven’t noticed Jeff, many regs have bailed preferring happiness over the Bears.

    I feel much the way about these hires as I did about Fox after Trest – can’t POSSIBLY be worse.

    And as much as I have thought Fox was dick warts, he wasn’t quite the ass-cancer Trestman was, so baby steps right?

    I’m cautiously optimistic because, well, because I’m an idiot – and I guess I’m OK with that in the sportsworld.

    We can afford to be idiots when watching sports (unless you’re a gambler, in which case, it’s another job).

    So, here’s to the future and escaping the pit of misery.

    Dilly dilly!

    • BearDown100393

      IMO Shurmur was the logical hire. We improve our coaching staff by stripping away a divisional opponent’s. We should have made him an offer and handshake that could not be refused. Don’t get me wrong – I have little (so far) to complain about Matt Nagy (other than his Bears agent’s direct connection to Ted Phillips) but he simply has to – by default – be better than Hobo. Vic was retained and better deliver after finally leaving his safe room after being passed over for HC. Helfrich is college material until proven otherwise at the pro level. Being connected to Chip Kelly is neither enthralling or alarming (yet) at this time. Anybody overly exuberant by these changes is blinded by fan bias and intellectually challenged with memory loss. These would be the types equally excited over the hires of Wannstedt, Jauron and Fox and quick with the block button.

      • leftcoastdave

        Damn, I am so glad you have set us all straight.

        Thank you so much.

        • BearDown100393

          You are more than welcome.

          Someone here has to be a voice of reason.

      • Shurmur is gone, and may leave with Keenum/Bridgewater/Bradford, so they’re going to get pillaged anyways.

        And while Shurmur has his pros, he also has his cons.

        One could argue Nagy is too young and inexperienced (as they did with McVay), but one could also argue Shurmur is but another in a long line of recycled coaches.

        He’s supposedly a QB guru

        Then again, much was made about Trestman and Gase being QB gurus, and look how they turned out.

        Point is, we never know.

        How is Shurmur “more logical” when he has as many question marks as Nagy or McD?

        Besides, the NFL doesn’t always play out logically.

        (See, Jags)

        • Irish Sweetness

          But the Jags poured a ton into their D. They have a top RB. They’re in the playoffs.

          That’s a logical progression, no?

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  • willbest

    Looks like Shumer has a handshake deal with the Giants.

    • willbest

      Rap also reporting that Colts have a handshake deal with McDaniels.

      • That’s what I read as well.

        I wonder if Keenum goes with Shurmur to the Gmen.

        McDaniels must trust Luck’s shoulder.

        Wonder who the Titans are eyeing.

        Is Patricia with the Lions officially?

        • Bear Instincts

          Keenum has to take the best deal on the table. most likely to get it from the Cardinals. GMen pick too early to pass on a QB.

          McD must know something that the rest of us dont.

          • The Vikes could always franchise Keenum, but then that might mean Bridgewater goes with Shumur, which is not a bad move either for a potential suitor.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Colts are picking third. McDaniels can select his own QB.

          • He can, but then they would have to trade Luck, which shouldn’t be hard (might be Brees 2.0), but the cap hit initially would be enormous I gander.

            If McD goes to the Colts, I think he’d be too tempted to draft a franchise LT/Edge to pair with Luck and finally get them chugging in the right direction.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            I wonder what Luck would get you on the trading block right now. If he come see out this fall, and can’t play with the shoulder (entirely possible) then he’s not worth shit, and the Colts are eating the bulk of that $140M contract for nothing.

            And how close to the top of the draft will they be with a QB class supposedly this deep? They’re definitely at a major crossroads here.

          • Colts are in a catch-22

            IF they begin secretly shopping Luck, every team will immediately become skeptical “He MUST be fucked”

            If they keep him, and he’s fucked – well, they’re fucked, esp with that contract.

            Also gotta remember McD ran Cutler out of town immediately.

            Be funny if history repeats, and he runs Luck out (albeit for diff reasons).

            But how about this

            If Brees retires, the Saints are loaded, make the trade for Luck, and keep rolling.

            Last time they took a chance on a QB with a “bum” shoulder, they won a SB.

  • AlbertInTucson

    from the “Statistics are for losers” file:

    The Steelers’ defense QB sacks in the regular season

    They recorded exactly ZERO sacks on Sunday.

    • SC Dave

      Just goes to show what happens when guys make, or don’t make, plays.

    • Irish Sweetness

      The Jags OL stats might have predicted that though?

  • willbest

    The weird thing about the Mularkey firing is that there were talks of an extension. And he seems to have gotten the axe because he didn’t walk off the field Saturday scapegoating his offensive coordinator.

    • BerwynBomber

      They seem like a horribly run organization. That said I don’t think it is a mistake to pink slip Mularkey.

  • willbest
    • CanadaBear

      Where I used to hunt in Iowa there were a lot of Mennonites. Not exactly Amish but in the ball park. Their lives seemed needlessly physical. Nothing against them, they were always nice to me.

  • CanadaBear
    • BearDown100393

      Apparently Grimace believes the Packers live in messy homes.

      • willbest

        Can you blame him? His offensive and defensive captains keep having to air their lovers quarrels on national television.

        • BearDown100393

          Don’t forget about that abused dog caught in the middle.

  • TBC

    People who invoke the DEFCON system to and get the severity backwards are my favorite people. Never seen anyone spell it “Def-Com” though.

    • BearDown100393

      Took a tour bus to see Lambeau Field huh?

  • SC Dave

    “It’s okay to get excited about a new coaching staff.”

    I hate being a wet blanket, but the Bears still have the same training, strength & conditioning, and sports science/nutrition people.

    I am less than excited about that.

    • I’m hoping it’s like when Pace arrived pulling out the weeds from the Angleo/Emery scouts – a gradual process.

      Though I would feel MUCH better if we just fired everyone and start from scratch with those depts.

      That being said, did the Bears suffer more INJs than avg this yr?

      Seems like we were about avg compared to the plagues of the previous 2 yrs.

      Some INJs just can’t be helped. Like Meredith’s knee going the wrong way, or that gruesome Zach dislocation.

      • BearDown100393

        I would not mind seeing some changes in PT/Nutrition Dep’t at least by rookie camp. Installing a new coaching staff first is obviously Pace’s top priority.

        • One of the things I heard from numerous ‘insiders’ like Moon, Thayer, etc is that Fox’s practices were rather physical.

          He wasn’t “old school” in just his thinking, but practice.

          Initially it was lauded esp when contrasted with Trestman’s kumbaya, but some have speculated that maybe his rough practices contributed to the rash of INJs.

          Also, look at the way he rode players.

          I mean, it was OBVIOUS Howard was playing with one shoulder in the first 4 games, and Fox had no compunction about still running him 30 times.

          Long has been ravaged by INJs, but Fox still put him out there till he practically had no limbs left

          Even guys who weren’t INJ per se like HIcks Fox wore down to a nub when everyone knew they had to spell him.

          The change in coaches may indeed lead to more efficient use of players and practices which may lead to fewer INJs.

          • SC Dave

            Good points all on utilization, Butch.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But wasn’t that Papa Bear’s philosophy? Practice like you play.

    • CanadaBear

      I’m guessing Pace is all over it. No reason to think he doesn’t see what we do. I’m sure they’ve been trying to get to the bottom of it.

      • leftcoastdave

        After seeing the coaches chosen and the players drafted last year to fit into the future scheme (ie., Trubisky, Cohen and Shaheen), it looks to me like Pace has had a clear plan and I would doubt that this issue is not on his plate.
        And on the subject of injuries, how can anyone complain about the slow pace Shaheen was on with the initial focus on blocking or the limits placed on Cohen’s snaps while he learned up the route tree? They both took YUGE leaps in the level of competition. Let them boys grow into this and live to play next year!

      • ButtonShoes

        Pace has been all over it his entire time here. And things haven’t gotten better, only worse. He makes these token assurances that he’ll “look into it” every post-season, and then the new season starts and the injuries start up again. He has no fucking idea what he’s doing when it comes to injuries. I expect them to keep happening at the rate they’ve been happening.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Injuries are as much a product of the rental free agents he’s brought in while rebuilding the roster as they are anything else. Throw in some ordinary bad luck, and you get what we have.
          Look at something like Miller’s knee. No amount of strength, conditioning, or diet changes that. That’s just physics and bad luck. Shit happens. As the roster gets better, the injuries should decrease in general.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s been failing at that though, C-Bear.

        Maybe, to Pace, the Strength coach isn’t as important as everything else?

  • Cubsnlinux

    There is NO reason to hate the Vikings..if you are.. stop hating. Now Packers..absolutely hate them..loathe them because they are disgusting. So are the lions. If not the Bears I am happy for the Vikings.

    • willbest

      I am anybody but the Patriots atm. I think the Vikings have the best change of beating the Patriots. Therefore I will be pulling for them next week. If the Jags win, I am pretty much agnostic as to who wins the SB and will just be looking for a nice, clean, competitive game without a lot of flags.

      Of course that is why the Pats have to win the AFCC. There won’t be a team to hate in the Superbowl if they don’t

      • Cubsnlinux

        Amen Will. Any body but the Pats.

      • BerwynBomber

        Don’t know if I care at this point. I was rooting for Brees to get a second ring before he retires.

        I’m still of the anyone-but-NE sentiment but can’t say I care for any of the other teams. Would probably root for JAX among them.

        • All the remaining teams have strikes against them

          Jags are underdogs, but Bortles? Bortles? That’s as offensive as Dilfer winning. Seems fundamentally wrong, like toe socks.

          Fuck NE.

          The Vikes would be a good story, but they’re in the division.

          Eagles seem like the team, but their fan base are douches!

          Be much easier if Bears just contended.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agree. But I’d actually resent Foles more than Bortles.

            At least JAX has been living with Bortles all year. Foles would be the ultimate vulture win.

          • SC Dave

            I’d be just fine with it.

      • BearDown100393

        I hate all the remaining playoff teams. Obviously someone has to eventually win. May the last 3 games on the playoff schedule be riddled with injuries extending into next season and improving the odds in favor of the Bears.

        • ButtonShoes

          Honestly, why should I want any other team to win other than the Bears? The rest of the league can go fuck itself. I only want the Bears to win.

          • BearDown100393

            Around here, bandwagon hopping seems to be the norm…….

    • That Guy

      Fuck you. I’ll hate the Vikings if I want.

      They’re a division rival. For years they employed a guy who beat his kid’s TESTICLES bloody. The slapped him on the wrist and then welcomed him back, jettisoning him only after he suffered another injury.

      They had the two Williamses who juiced, and basically filibustered their suspensions from the NFL. The team just whistled and said, “So what?”

      Rape boat. ‘Nuff said.

      They’ve been anointed as the “sleeper” team in the NFC damn near every year of the past 10, so they’ve been the “insider” pick to be good. This year their record finally matches that “insider” cred… with a guy who was a career nobody taking over for their crippled starter they made a ridiculous trade for after their ho-hum starter nearly lost his leg in a non-contact drill.

      Yes, they’re the template for what we want to be. That doesn’t mean I like them, their coaches, their players, or their organization. Or their fucking milk-white fan base, who are just like Green Bay inbreeders. And don’t get me started on fucking PURPLE Vikings. OR that obnoxious horn they blare EVERY FUCKING TIME THEY SCORE.

      No, I hate them. Almost as much as the Packers.

      And this year, if they go to the Super Bowl, it’ll be because a guy whiffed on a tackle. All he had to do was tackle the guy, and the Vikings lose. If that makes it to the Super Bowl, my hatred will flow even stronger.

      • Cubsnlinux

        Go, F yourself then. You must be the freakin Pope huh? If not monk for sure then?

        • BerwynBomber

          You need to get control of yourself. That Guy only expressed an opinion different from yours. He never made it personal. Like you did.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            I’m trying to decide how I feel about the Vikings. Is Keenum really that good? He seems to be. Are they a QB controversy away from 8-8? I don’t know. Who’s their starter next year? Don’t know.

            It wouldn’t surprise me if they were 11-5 next year or 8-8. Gonna have to see some roster moves, and as always, injuries.

          • BerwynBomber

            Zimmer and their D are legit.

            The Keenum story is a good one. Hard not to pull for the guy a little bit. And to be honest I am filled with less hate for all three of our rivals than most DBBers. (Something about rivals makes for some weird brotherhood, in my mind.)

            But I have been a fan of Brees for a long time and had adopted the Saints as my second team. Hence that game was a total kick in the nuts.

            Ah well. Such is sport.

            Btw, doesn’t it seem like Keenum/Bridgewater/Bradford could all be the same guy?

            I’d lean Keenum if I had to if only because he has played better this season than I ever saw the other two. He’s like a younger, better McCown.

          • SC Dave

            Funny with the Brees comment – for me, because of geography and a bunch of people I know, I have adopted the Panthers as my second team.

            Their losing to N.O. *again* was not pleasant for me.

            But really, anything is better than the fucking Patriots winning another Super Bowl. Go Jags!!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Not for Woodsy!

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Is Keenum really that good?”

            I hear that.

            I keep waiting for him to implode but…

          • AlbertInTucson

            That Guy is completely discredited for 1) Resorting to name-calling and insults to advance his argument and 2) Not have the stones to register with the Blog.

        • Irish Sweetness

          In fairness, the Pope probably bangs the Kinder (At least the last one that ‘retired’ ….) – or at least he’s protected enough of them.

      • Cubsnlinux

        I am sure a** holes like you would be the first to jump on a boat like the Vikings did if you had a chance but didn’t because you couldn’t. I am disgusted with folks preaching morales like they are the guardian angels.

      • Cubsnlinux

        You must be one of those miserable turds who hate the Cubs because they play Go Cubs Go every time they win.

        • BerwynBomber

          Why are you getting so personal about it?

          SMFH ..

          • ButtonShoes

            I wish! Alas, not everyone does.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, I don’t get this notion of all.
        First, fans telling other fans which team to dislike.
        And two, that we should hate one rival but have the warm and fuzzies about another.
        Gimme a break …

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        New Bear???

        • CanadaBear

          Somehow or other That Guy can’t be New Bear. I thought the same thing a while ago but there is just no way.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Wait. I thought NBIT was That Guy, no?

          Though it would be strange for a guy so into scripture that he’d be F-bombing other dudes left and right ……

    • BearDown100393

      I will never stop hating a divisional opponent.

    • ButtonShoes

      They’re division opponents. Of course we can hate them. Fuck the Vikings. Fuck the Lions. And most especially, Fuck the Packers. Doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate what winning yesterday means to the Vikings or their fans, especially in light of their history.

    • Irish Sweetness

      ???

      They’re in our division and they’re in the playoffs! Fuck’em.

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