• EnderWiggin

    Just wondering – When do ya think?

    • Irish Sweetness

      When does he get fired? Prolly not until year 3 with his 12 wins?

  • evantonio

    He’ll bring over Dave Toub, right? RIGHT?

    • ButtonShoes

      Not if Toub goes to Indy.

      • evantonio

        Why would he go to Indy as HC when he could be a coordinator here?

  • Bear Instincts

    Welcome to the team Coach

  • Big Mike

    Nagy. BOOM

  • BearDown100393

    Fire Pace
    Fire Nagy

    • Big Mike

      Mute button again. Trolling. Great choice.

      • Bear Instincts

        Bear Down!

      • BearDown100393

        Remember this

        • Bear Instincts

          you are so negative you could not be hiv positive

          • BearDown100393

            Realistic.

      • DBears

        Yea. I agree. No reason to be down on the choice. I wanted Defilippo but Nagy seems like good choice. I don’t think there is anything that will make beardown happy

        • SC Dave

          FFS, he’s just a troll. Ignore his pathetic ass already.

        • Big Mike

          Belichik resigns to become coach of Bears. Garappolo leaves SF to come to Chicago, Cleveland gives Bears all their draft picks for Trubisky, maybe that would do it.

          • Bear Instincts

            From your lips to Papa Bears ears!!!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            McCaskey’s must sell the team also, otherwise he will still bitch.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Works for me!

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Nagy looks like Chris Elliot.

    • BerwynBomber

      Ryan Rusillo …

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      Jason Stratham.

  • A7Xthebest

    Feels like a huge mistake.

    Will admit if I’m wrong.

    • SC Dave

      If this is true, does it not call into question the “thorough” attribution for Pace’s coaching search?

    • Irish Sweetness

      There’s two of us in that boat, man. He was one name I did not think would get called, and he just looks like …. no.

  • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

    Serious question.

    Does Nagy bring Smith with him? Isn’t Smith’s future in question?

    • Mitchell Trubisky is the Bears’ starting QB for at least the next 2 years.

      • EnderWiggin

        I’m guessing the QB questions came up in the interview process.

  • Realistically none of us have any freaking clue whether this is a good move or not. It’s impossible to know.

    • EnderWiggin

      No. But the excitement really, really helps.

      • Bear Instincts

        Nervous not excited. He may work out. He may not. Feels like we left more qualified talent for this guy

        • Big Mike

          No way. Pace is building this for the long haul. It will be interesting to see who his OC and QB Coach will be. I’m saying its even money that Fangio stays on Defense.

          • Bear Instincts

            I hope so

    • Big Mike

      I do. Great choice. Pace again is decisive and sticking to his plan. Next announcement will be Nagy/Pace extend Fangio with promotion to Assistant HC.

      • Bear Instincts

        that is a great 1st step to stability. just make sure the OC was a former HC so we have great leadership and experience in the office

      • Irish Sweetness

        Oh Jesus.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Tell that to athiests and bible-bashers.

  • EnderWiggin

    Think he’ll bring Fangio or Pettine to coordinate? I think I’d settle for either.

    • Bear Instincts

      Fangio. Keep the consistency.

      • Irish Sweetness

        The consistency of ….. a no-balls pansy-assed defense?

    • Sounds like the goal is to keep the defensive staff intact and bring in all new offensive coaches. We’ll see how that works out.

    • evantonio

      Toub. He’ll bring Toub.

      • BearDown100393

        He should be Toub’s OC at the most……

    • Big Mike

      I think Fangio’s contract deadline (tomorrow) was a driver. So they either have him locked up, or are putting on the full court press.

  • CanadaBear

    If they wanted Fangio to be DC they had to do this quickly. I believe Fangio is out of contract tomorrow. I’m sure the Fudgies will be all over him if he doesn’t stay with Chicago.

    • Big Mike

      I believe the timeline had a huge impact. But Nagy was 2nd on a whole bunch of lists. Shanahan was the top guy according to a bunch of folks. He might have wanted personnel control?

      • BearDown100393

        Shanahan?

      • CanadaBear

        McDaniels?

        • BearDown100393

          Dick Jauron?

        • Big Mike

          Yeah, McDaniels..

    • Irish Sweetness

      Great!! That’s a plan! The Packers won’t be blitzing!! He’ll give MT career days whenever we play them!

  • beninnorcal

    I don’t know much about this guy but I hope we get lucky here for once.

    • EnderWiggin

      I’m just happy that our new offensive guru is coming from the NFL.

      • beninnorcal

        Good point. I’m also good with it if, indeed, they’re able to keep Vic around.

  • Bear Instincts

    We know they are trying to lock Fangio down as the DC but who are the potential OC options?

    • John F

      I am hearing John Shoop

  • I love that Jahns got this scoop over the normal guys. Recognition from the Bears of an up-and-coming reporter who’s doing great work on the beat.

    • BearDown100393

      At what cost?

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        #JahnsToo

  • Sactowns#1

    Ooof. I don’t know about this one guys. I will take a cautious “wait and see approach” though, which for me is a huge step.

  • John F

    Picked Nagy because he likes Trubisky, this is ALL about Trubisky.

    Trubisky will take us to new heights, or be a boat anchor. It is probably 50/50 at this point.

    • BearDown100393

      Playoffs or firings

    • Irish Sweetness

      But there’s no Lombardi without a defense, and Fanny-o is not giving you a SB defense. He’s not. He can’t.

      Fangio needs to get the fuck away from my team.

  • Bear Instincts

    Can he bring Toube back as ST coach?

  • BerwynBomber

    Hah! I predicted Nagy weeks ago would be the guy.

    My issue with Flip was the Wentz factor. It is the same reason I don’t completely trust WRs who have been playing with great QBs. Some of Flip was too much Wentz.

    I’d rather go with the guy who had to make something out of the Alex Smith or Case Keenums of the league.

    • Jokey

      Agreed. This is a good choice. Better than the McDaniels by a mile. Offensive-minded, which I think we need. Hopefully we keep Fangio, if not, get another solid 3-4 DC and we’d be fine I think. Fangio wasn’t exceptionally creative or anything.

  • catfish44

    now- toub as special teams coach again??

  • Here’s an interesting connection: Rod Wilson is the current assistant ST coach in KC under Toub. He also played in Chicago as a STer under Toub for years.

    Now he only has 1 year coaching ST at any level, but that could be an interesting hire for ST coordinator.

  • catfish44

    good luck to nagy, but i wanted oprah winfrey as HC. —–Oprah Winfrey is “actively thinking” about running for president, two of her close friends told CNN Monday. http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/08/media/oprah-golden-globes/index.html

    • BearDown100393

      Buy the team

    • Sactowns#1

      The right wingers would lose their damn minds. OMG another black president?! And this time it’s a WOMAN?!!!?!

      • BearDown100393

        Oprah
        Bears Owner

      • DaMurph

        You get a car, you get a car, you get a car! If I’m getting a car she’s getting my vote! Ha!

      • SC Dave

        Back at identity politics, eh Sac?

      • Scharfinator

        I suspect HRC set back the woman’s cause a good bit.

      • beninnorcal

        BS, my disliking of Obama had nothing to do with his race and everything to do with his policy. Why is everything about race with you people?

        • Sactowns#1

          Suuuuure. I’m sure it was all of those policies, that were just like Reagan’s policies, that you so disliked.

          • beninnorcal

            Didn’t much care for the war on drugs that he perpetuated to be honest, but you never asked me about Reagan.
            And now you are actually insinuating that I’M a racist without actually knowing anything about me except that I lean right on many issues and am not a big fan of Obama. So who’s the bigot here, again?

            Here comes Sac again, climbing off his high horse to tell everyone who disagrees with him how much more virtuous he is than them.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Every single human being is a racist by its very definition. Racism needs to be redefined. Everyone is racist.

    • catfish44

      to be perfectly honest, I really want Stedman, he is one Grade A piece of man meat. i wonder if he is into men

    • evantonio

      why the hell not?

      the door has been opened. we’re going to have celeb candidates every cycle now.

      • Sactowns#1

        Lets place the blame where it lies, with Regan.

        • evantonio

          He at least occupied a governor’s mansion for a bit before ascending to the White House, so you can’t say he had no political experience.

          • SC Dave

            An inconvenient truth.

          • Sactowns#1

            True. At least he got some sort of experience before going to the big time.

        • beninnorcal

          *Reagan

        • Irish Sweetness

          For de-regulating the banks? Absolutely. They could only manage that with an actor in the WH.

      • Scharfinator
        • evantonio

          Unfortunately he was born in the wrong latitude and longitude.

          But could he be vice president?

          • Scharfinator

            Yeah, it’s just a pipe dream for me.

    • ButtonShoes

      No. Just…no.

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    Why would Fangio stay? We interviewed him for HC, and then passed on him. If i was in his shoes i’d go right over to green bay to kick our ass a few times a year.

    • BearDown100393

      Hmmm…. logic strikes

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, he might be little pissed.

      The only thing I could see happening is if the “interview” was actually a sell job on getting him to stay as DC.

      But if they brought him and actually dangled the HC job in front of him there is probably a decent chance he is gone.

    • John F

      “Why would Fangio stay?”

      $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    • CanadaBear

      He was one of the highest paid DC’s in the league. If he sticks around, I’m guessing he would get a pay increase.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        How do you know he is one of the highest paid? Link? I have searched for how much coordinators are paid and I have not found anything.

        • Bear Instincts

          its been widely reported with no concrete evidence.

        • CanadaBear

          I’ve read it numerous times. Find your own link!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I have also read it numerous times but there is never anything to support it. I have tried finding a link to support the reporting but I have had no luck. I was hoping you had the magic link that supported the claim.

          • CanadaBear

            Nah. I was looking but never saw any actual facts about DC pay. I”m pretty sure it was either Biggsy or AJ. Most of the other beat reporters are too busy writing hit pieces than doing any actual investigative work.

        • Bear Instincts

          https://classroom.synonym.com/salary-defensive-coordinator-24379.html

          NFL defensive coordinators earn six-figure to seven-figure salaries. As of publication, the highest paid defensive coordinator in the NFL, according to an ESPN.com article, is Wade Philips of the Houston Texans, who earns approximately $700,000 per year under a 3-year, $2.1 million deal. A January 2005 article for USA Today, citing figures from NFL Coaches Association executive director Larry Kennen, reports the average salary of NFL defensive coordinators at $600,000 annually with a few at the time earning as much as $1 million annually (as noted above, as of 2011 there are no defensive coordinators earning $1 million salaries annually).

          • Sactowns#1

            Damn. The gap between coordinator and HC pay is pretty wide.

    • Fangio isn’t getting an HC job.
      So the only real question is if he wants to return to SF or maybe bolt to GB.

      I’m sure Fangio had say in the past 3 drafts too, so maybe he feels invested in his guys like Floyd, Amos, Jackson, Bullard, Goldman, etc….and stays

      • Irish Sweetness

        Why would he even get a DC job?

    • Irish Sweetness

      He won’t kick MT’s ass rushing 3.

  • ButtonShoes

    WELP.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      ??

      • ButtonShoes

        I feel very neutral about this pick.

        • BearDown100393

          Wish I did

          • U don’t like Nagy? Why not? Who would u have gone w?

          • BearDown100393

            Shurmar.
            I want to like this though.

          • Bear Instincts

            We all want to like this. The other picks were sexier. They gave us hope based on their past accomplishments.

          • BearDown100393

            Honestly (speaking for myself), there wasn’t really a “perfect” candidate standing out from the pile. Yet the pile was not offensive.

          • John F

            There are soooooo many examples of hiring the head coach that sucked the first time, and then really sucking the second time. And very, very few that worked out the other way.

            That’s why I am wary of Shurmur/McDaniels

          • Irish Sweetness

            Wilks for me. This guy looks YOUNG.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Hard to justify any other reaction

  • CanadaBear

    Not that it has anything to do with anything but PE interviewed 14 people before hiring Nessman. You can be as thorough as you want, if you’re shitty at your job it doesn’t make any difference.

    • I often wonder how Trestman impressed more than Arians.
      Not saying Arians was the savior, but moses christ was he infinitely superior.

      • BearDown100393

        Arians wouldn’t give a suit type interview

      • CanadaBear

        I always maintained that Emery hired the coaching version of himself. Hard working guy that never got his due or a break. Problem was Nessman was just like Emery, really shitty at his day job.

        • Yeah, it was “revenge of the nerds” but in this version, Ogre wins.

        • BearDown100393

          He hired based on wallet family photos.

  • Wow. No Flip. Kinda bummed.
    Both Nagy and Shurmur seemed competent, and none of us have any real clue how any of these guys will do at HC anyways, so I’m neither thrilled nor worried. Just waitvand see like with Trub.

    I guess Pace blamed the 2nd half debacle on Walrus and not Nagy.

    When Nagy took over playcalling in season , he featured Hunt more, so hopefully he doesn’t get too cute w the WCO ala Trestman throwing a bunch of 2yd slants on 3rd and 1.

    And that’s another thing Bears will have to consider. Reid’s WCO is bigger than a bible.

    It’s arguably the most complicated and convoluted of playbooks.

    Trub better better be sharp or he’s gonna look like a rook all over again

    • AlbertInTucson

      “…none of us have any real clue how any of these guys will do at HC anyways…”

      This.

      • BearDown100393

        Or GMs
        Or Draft Picks

    • ButtonShoes

      If there’s a knock against Nagy, it’s coming from Reid’s coaching tree. It’s like coming from Belichick’s coaching tree: nothing good comes from it. But that’s a tiny gripe. In the end, who the hell knows if he’ll be any good or not. We’ll just have to wait for the games.

      • BearDown100393

        Losing in playoffs > Missing playoffs?

      • BerwynBomber

        Rivera, Harbaugh and Pederson are from the Reid tree.

        • BearDown100393

          How many as HC won a Super Bowl?

          • Bear Instincts

            Rivera lost in the SB to Manning
            Harbaugh won with Baltimore unless it was his brother who lost in the SB

          • John F

            Lovie lost the SB.

            After Daniel Manning blew a coverage that led to a Colts TD, he told Rivera to play Cover 2 the rest of the game (we had been running pressure packages up until then and were getting the Peyton) and we didn’t see the ball on offense again for an hour and a half.

            Also, Lovie played Grossman which preordained the result ……..

          • BerwynBomber

            It was John (not Jim) who was on Reid’s staff. He was Reid’s ST coach at PHI.

            Harbaugh’s assistant there was none other than the oft-discussed Dave Toub.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Beat me to it. As coaching trees go, Reid’s is pretty solid.

          I might even throw Todd Bowles in there for what he was able to do this year with the Jets. Talk about turning chicken shit into chicken salad. That looked like a 1 win team on paper in September. Winning 5 is something close to a miracle.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Well he was outcoached to fuck yesterday ….

  • BearDown100393

    “You can learn a lot by how a man handles his hair.”

    -#45

    • That’s the only thing that worries me. Apparently the last bald HC to win the SB was…Landry

      #whiteBaldLivesMatter

  • Big Mike
    • Another detail to ponder about Nagy is if he drafts a stud HB?

      Think about those Chiefs RBs (or any WCO for that matter).

      Jamal Charles. Spencer Ware. West. Hunt.

      What do they all have in common?

      They’re fantastic pass catchers.

      (Trestman had Forte).

      Howard is like the opposite of a WCO HB.

      I don’t see him as a fit. Maybe there’ll be a lot more Mocha Ninja going forward, or maybe they trade Howard and we draft our own Hunt/Kamara/McCaffrey.

      Also, you’re an Oline guy – does WCO use a diff type of Olinemen or do our guys fit the WCO mold?

      • They’re not trading Howard, but I wouldn’t be shocked if they draft another RB this year in what is supposed to be a loaded class. They’ve drafted one in the 4th or 5th round for 4 years in a row now, I’d like to see that streak stretch to 5. Getting a more complete back to develop behind Howard and Cohen would be a good thing, IMO.

        • I’m all for the 4th/5th yd lotto HB ticket.

          But I can’t think of ONE stone-handed HB in a WCO off the top of my head.

          Not one.

          If we could get say a 3rd for Howard (maybe trade him to MIA who now needs a HB), wouldn’t you pull the trigger on that considering our new scheme?

          • BearDown100393

            If Howard was a non blocking TE he would be exiled immediately.

      • Big Mike

        With regards to the OL, a WCO puts a higher premium on quickness over power. This mostly impacts the interior line. The requirement for tackles is slightly different, but requires the same skills set. There are three primary pass blocking schemes in the WCO. 1) everyone except the play side tackle blocks the gap towards the non-play side, the Play side tackle and back have the play side 2) you flip 1. Everyone blocks the gap towards the play side, except the back side tackle and running back. These are both 5 player protection schemes. #3 is the same except with 2 backs (6 man protection scheme).

        Run blocking is more than likely a zone scheme, favoring lighter quicker OL. But our studs are both quick and strong. It’s a good match for who we have. It might influence who we draft.

        • “a WCO puts a higher premium on quickness over power”

          Ah, that’s what I suspected, more of a zone blocking scheme, so our guys should fit.

          But like you say, Sitton/Whitehair/Long are both athletic and powerful, so they’d be flexible either way.

          However, I don’t know how much longer either Sitton or Long are going to be Bears.

          Sitton is getting older. Long is just plagued by INJ.

          I suspect the Bears will draft an OG in the mid to late rounds in Nagy’s mold.

          • Bear Instincts

            depends on what the trio decide

            nagy(OT/G) – Quenton Nelson(OG)/Mike McGlinchey(OT)

            pace(BPA) – Quenton Nelson/Saquon Barkley

            fangio (EDGE) – Chubb/Key

          • Big Mike

            Quentin Nelson is better at this stage of his career than Cody Whitehair was. But the other needs are so pressing. Pace did find Whitehair in the 2nd round. Long’s getting old, he’s already 29 and he’s been busted up for the last 2 years with 3 surgeries scheduled this year. I would never bet against him, because he’s proven to be one of the toughest most dedicated players out there. But I would have contingencies. I just don’t think they are first round picks. I wouldn’t hate the pick, especially combined with WRs obtained in FA.

          • Bear Instincts

            i think its a matter of who do you trust to save the day:
            can the defense stop Rodgers when the game is on the line? if you trust the defense you help it get better with Chubb or Key

            can MT10 and crew score when the game is on the line? if you trust MT10 you get him Nelson or Glinchey

          • Big Mike

            I’d say it depends more on where you think you can maximize impact. To me that’s all about offense. Whether it is FA, the Draft of both. Defense is clearly further along than the offense. Offense might be set to make a HUGE leap. Defense will get better if the offense gets better. Pace has a 2 year clock. If he’s not competing for the playoffs next season and in the playoffs the following season, he’s done. To do that, he needs Trubisky to emerge. To do that, he needs weapons. Bears defense has held its own against the division. I’d speculate (because I didn’t research it) none of our division opponents put up numbers better than their average against the bears. Improve the offense results in a better defense.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I think with their HC pick, that defense is no longer mandatory in Chicago.

          • Big Mike

            We’re going to playoffs next year Irish 🙂

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’m good with Nelson or Barkley, even McGlinchey. It’s about time we went OL in the first.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Nelson’s a top 5 pick I see. McGlinchey would be there.

          • Big Mike

            The guy that benefits the most is Grasu. He’s much quicker than he is strong, he’ll rarely be one on one with a stud NT. His speed getting through the gap to the second level will be an asset. Run blocking in the WCO is all about not letting the defender cross your face and hauling ass to the second level and getting contact with somebody. If the back presses his angle up to the OL, gets a crease and cuts back, its off to I-hop. Speed is so critical, because splits are wider, and you are a 1/2 to 2/3rds of a gap away from your target. If he slants hard or you don’t see a blitz through your gap and are slow, you’re done.

          • CanadaBear

            I would appreciate it if you would never talk about Grasu again. As far as I’m concerned he’s J-Webb Nation bad just at a different position.

          • Big Mike

            🙂 He’s less bad in a West Coast Offense. Insiders say that he simply can’t get stronger. He works and works, but his body is maxed out. The book is out that you bull rush him. He’s an excellent technician, he’s quick, he has a high football IQ. He’s just 90% as big and strong as he needs to be.

          • Big Mike

            That’s funny. I know it’s frustrating and embarrassing when we see our center bent in half backwards at the goal line. My only point is that the WCO benefits him the most.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Was he an Oregon Duck? What do they run?

          • CanadaBear

            They run a college offense against players that are very unlikely to make the NFL.

          • CanadaBear

            I’ll take your word for it because you know way more about that stuff than me. I never want to see Graus going straight back, eventually on his backside in a Bears uni ever again!

          • Bear Instincts

            so its all about timing and execution…sound like fun…when it works

          • Big Mike

            You can say that about anything, timing and execution. But quickness and low gear speed makes timing and execution a much greater possibility. I’ve not given up hope for Grasu, but I’m close. Worse case he’s cheap depth.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I haven’t either, he’s a good quality kid, a leader in college they said.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Or maybe Nagy should use play calling to allow Howard succeed. Can Nagy find a way to best utilize the players he has? Or does he Martz it and try to force players into positions or get rid of them all together.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Well we won’t get a sniff of Barkley, that’s why you have to suck end of season.

  • John F

    Starting to get a bad feeling about this.

    I am reading stories that Pace was worried that Nagy would get the Colts job (he interviewed with them on Sunday apparently) so he freaked out and offered him the job right away. This sounds like Trubisky 2.0 where Pace heard voices that weren’t there and panicked.

    • ButtonShoes

      Seriously? Well, crap.

    • BearDown100393

      It isnt true unless tweeted first by Jahns

    • Sactowns#1

      I was thinking it sounded more like typical Pace trying to outsmart everyone. Conventional wisdom had 3-4 coaches ranked higher than Naggy but here comes Pace trying to show how much smarter than everyone else he is.

      • ButtonShoes

        Pace gambles on everything.

        • evantonio

          He eats 4 day old Taco Bell.

          “Has the meat turned? Is the sour cream supposed to smell that way?

          Fuck it! I’m going in.”

          • Irish Sweetness

            And then two days later …

            “Baby …call an ambulance …I think that @#$ Taco Bell was off …”

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      Wouldn’t be Chicago if we didn’t start immediately shitting on a decision based on rumor, conjecture and piss poor journalism.

      Who the fuck knows?

  • New profile pic!

  • BerwynBomber

    Ambivalent about the obsession with retaining Fangio.

    On one hand, Fangio seems rock solid, and has done an outstanding job. It would suck to lose him.

    On the other, forcing him on Nagy or suggesting him to Nagy has a similar vibe to the whole Pace/Fox shotgun wedding (unless you truly buy Pace wasn’t steered toward Fox).

    Who knows? Maybe Nagy has major wood for Fangio on his own. But could be a case of careful what you wish for.

    • BearDown100393

      If Nagy wants Fangio, so be it. No problem with me.
      If Nagy ordered to take Fangio, here we go ’round the Mulberry Bush once again.

      • BerwynBomber

        Agreed. And the timing of the Nagy hire raises some suspicions it is the latter given Fangio’s contract expires tomorrow and at that point the Bears can longer control his interview availability.

        It is already reported that the Bears denied CIN the opportunity to speak with Fangio.

        • BearDown100393

          Most likely the events are connected making the Nagy hire are pragmatic one. Assuredly Nagy during the interview was inquired about his coordinator preferences. Perhaps his response weighed in on the final choice for HC.

          • BerwynBomber

            Could be. And hey, even if Fangio were forced on Nagy doesn’t mean it won’t work out. Just not a fan of dictating an HC’s hires.

          • BearDown100393

            I am as much a fan as having coordinators forced on HCs as GMs being babysat by Owners and Team Presidents during job interviews.

          • Yeah, who knows who Nagy can get at DC?

            What if he wants a Mel Tucker clone? Bleh.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Ryan and Ditka were forced onto each other.

      • DaMurph

        Ditka was ordered to keep Ryan, seems that worked out well.

        • Bear Instincts

          Ditka was/is egotistical

          • SC Dave

            Ditka is perhaps the most overrated coach ever.

            And Ryan? A good D aint hard with three HOF players on the field and two more all time Bears greats (Fencik & Mongo)

            And a couple more strong players

          • Irish Sweetness

            And won us a Lombardi. Thanks, Coach.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I think Ditka wins with or without. It was Ryan that cost us the Miami game.

      • Irish Sweetness

        If Nagy wants Fangio then we’ll KNOW he’s a #$%@!

    • I’m only for keeping Fangio because I can’t think of another obvious better DC available.

      It was my same logic for trying to keep Alshon – what are the other options?

      Fangio doesn’t seem aggressiveness enough, but the focus of this team will now be on the franchise QB winning games, and D holding court, and I think Fangio can at least hold court.

      I also think he’s an asset in the draft.

      He loved Floyd. Can only assume he liked the other guys like Goldman, Amos, Jackson, Bullard, etc.

      When he was in the 9ers, they also drafted D studs.
      Can’t be a coincidence.

      What other DC provides that sorta resume? None that I can think of who aren’t trying to become HCs themselves.

      • BearDown100393

        Not convinced there is a DC out there definitively better than our incumbent.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        Is Del Rio getting another head coaching gig this year? His name seems to be not on the interview lists.

        • Dunno, but the Raider D has not been elite by any imagining.
          In fact, I think they have underperformed given the talent.

          Probably why no one is talking about Del Rio even as a DC.

      • Big Mike

        I think Fango would be more aggressive if 1) his unit wasn’t on the field all the time 2) the Bears had the lead more often 3) Offense scored more than 18 pts per game.

        • John F

          ding ….. ding …… ding………..

          We have a winner !!!!!

        • Irish Sweetness

          But maybe the offense didn’t get as many chances because the Defense was toothless?

          • Big Mike

            Not one bit. Bears Defense kept them in games, then they kept having to run back on the field. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/average-time-of-possession-net-of-ot 28th in the league. No other team did so poorly on time of possession and ranked in the top 10 in scoring defense

            Here’s a chart I made

            Team

            TOP Rank

            T.O.P

            PA Rank

            PA

            Cincinnati

            32

            27:09

            17

            21.8

            Cleveland

            31

            27:56

            31

            25.6

            Buffalo

            30

            28:11

            16

            21.7

            NY Giants

            29

            28:26

            28

            24.2

            Chicago

            28

            28:27

            9

            20

            Green Bay

            27

            28:36

            26

            24

            San Francisco

            26

            28:40

            25

            23.9

            Oakland

            25

            28:53

            20

            23.3

            Indianapolis

            24

            29:09

            30

            25.2

            Seattle

            23

            29:19

            11

            20.8

            Miami

            22

            29:24

            29

            24.6

            LA Rams

            21

            29:39

            13

            20.9

            Washington

            20

            29:40

            27

            24.2

            Tampa Bay

            19

            29:43

            22

            23.9

            Detroit

            18

            29:47

            21

            23.5

            NY Jets

            17

            29:51

            23

            23.9

            Tennessee

            16

            29:54

            18

            22.2

            Houston

            15

            30:06

            32

            27.2

            Dallas

            14

            30:12

            12

            20.8

            LA Chargers

            13

            30:17

            3

            17

            Atlanta

            12

            30:17

            8

            19.3

            Kansas City

            11

            30:28

            15

            21.2

            New England

            10

            30:37

            5

            18.5

            New Orleans

            9

            30:46

            10

            20.7

            Baltimore

            8

            30:47

            6

            18.9

            Arizona

            7

            30:55

            19

            22.6

            Jacksonville

            6

            31:27

            2

            15.9

            Denver

            5

            31:28

            24

            23.9

            Pittsburgh

            4

            31:58

            7

            19.2

            Carolina

            3

            32:22

            14

            21.1

            Minnesota

            2

            32:26

            1

            15.8

            Philadelphia

            1

            32:41

            4

            18.4

          • Big Mike

            Not one bit. Bears Defense kept them in games, then
            they kept having to run back on the field. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/average-time-of-possession-net-of-ot
            28th in the league. No other team did so poorly on time
            of possession and ranked in the top 10 in scoring defense. In fact, of the 17 teams who had the ball less the 50% (30 minutes) of the time, the Bears are the only top 10 defense. They are #9. The next closest is Seattle at 11.

            Here’s a chart I made
            Team TOP Rank T.O.P PA Rank PA
            Cincinnati 32 27:01 17 21.8
            Cleveland 31 27:56 31 25.6
            Buffalo 30 28:11 16 21.7
            NY Giants 29 28:26 28 24.2
            Chicago 28 28:27 9 20.0
            Green Bay 27 28:36 26 24
            San Francisco 26 28.40 25 23.9
            Oakland 25 28:53 20 23.3
            Indianapolis 24 29:09 30 25.2
            Seattle 23 29:19 11 20.8
            Miami 22 29:24 29 24.6
            LA Rams 21 29:39 13 20.9
            Washington 20 29:40 27 24.2
            Tampa Bay 19 29:43 22 23.9
            Detroit 18 29:47 21 23.5
            NY Jets 17 29:51 23 23.9
            Tennessee 16 29:54 18 22.2
            Houston 15 30:06 32 27.2

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        just a thought…. if we kept Alshon, and Alshon was responsible for winning 3 more games for us. Does Fox get fired?

      • Irish Sweetness

        I drafted Floyd. All on my own. Anyone could have drafted Floyd, he was an obvious pick.

  • BTW, no Chicago coach has won a championship without facial hair in over 50 years.

    Nagy has facial hair.

    I’m not saying, I’m just saying.

    • Bear Instincts

      so your saying we have a shot

    • BearDown100393

      Those 1st 2 lines were penned in either Phillips or McCaskey’s notebooks when “being consulted” on a HC final decision.

    • CanadaBear

      So glad I’m not looking at Foxy with a handlebar mustache.

      • BearDown100393

        We shall see how long that emotion lasts.

        Hopefully for quite some time.

    • Scharfinator

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    • AlbertInTucson

      Whew.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      BTW. no Chicago coach has won a championship that was bald ever.

      Nagy is bald.

      I’m not saying, I’m just saying.

      • SC Dave

        A Debbie Downer, are ya?

        Huh?

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          I really just wanted to beat BD to it. I actually like the HC pick.

    • SC Dave

      Lol… i was going to comment on all the gray in a 39 years old’s beard, but didn’t have a way to work it in.

      Until now.

      Thanks JW!

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        nothing wrong with a gray beard at 39. I got a lot of gray and I am only 39.

  • John F

    Once we know who Nagy gets as his OC and DC, we will have a pretty good idea of where this is going……

  • Bear Instincts

    https://twitter.com/patrickfinley/status/950427944207478786
    #Bears
    DC Vic Fangio becomes a free agent tomorrow. While 3 offensive coaches
    have already left, no defensive assistants have. That could be telling.
    Still, Matt Nagy’s first test as head coach is recruiting the guys he
    already has to stay.

    • Big Mike

      First job is building the best staff. If Fangio is one of those guys great ( I think he would be one of the best DCs). But not getting Fangio’s ok too.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’m more excited about him leaving the building than whoever comes in at any position, Mike.

        Aggression. Violence. Takeaways. These things we miss.

        I remember looking at KC’s offense early in the season thinking, “That looks nice.”

        But the D must be cared for.

        • Big Mike

          Defense was top 10. Playing on 1 leg. With an offense that was rarely on the field for more than ½ the game. Your passion for mayhem is noteworthy. Situational football requires patience. .

  • ButtonShoes

    There sure seems to be a lot of ass-covering for Nagy out there with regards to this weekend’s playoff game. A lot of people are trying to do their damnedest to lay that collapse at Reid’s feet and not Nagy’s, even though it’s still 100% unclear.

    • John F

      I know that this doesn’t make a lot of sense, but after the Chiefs lost their stud TE, the Titans were able to single cover the replacement and make it much harder on the WR’s and RB’s. That TE was Smith’s blankie and when he lost it, I think he panicked little bit.

      • BearDown100393

        Alex Smith’s career is built on the principle to not lose football games.

        Huh.

      • It’s still concerning that a pro OC couldn’t overcome an inj.

        I know Kelce is a game-changer, but the Chiefs still had. Smith, Hill and Hunt (whom they neglected).

        A lot of talking heads observed that once the Chiefs finished their 15 play script, they totally tanked. No ideas. Choked.

        It’s like a comedian without a teleprompter bombing.

        That being said, watching the game, it suuuure looked like Reid was calling the plays. He was seen on the sideline talking into his playbook, so unless he was just trying to look useful, fairly positive he took over playcalls yesterday.

        • BerwynBomber

          Failure is an orphan.

          Actually, Reid took the bullet in a semi-facetious/admirable sort of way. Said he called all the bad plays, Nagy called all the good ones.

          • Haha.
            I wonder if the timing had anything to do with the loss in that maybe Chief owner began wondering about promoting Nagy to HC and maybe moving Reid to GM or something.

            So Pace moved in b4 any of that got going.

        • evantonio

          Man. How awesome would it be if we had an effective 15 plays every game? Sign me up!

          • Coming out like gangbusters and not like the chick ghostbusters would be exciting.

            I mean, how many opening drives did Fox score?

            Maybe 1 or 2?

          • SC Dave

            It’s hard to score from the sidelines.

            Players have to make plays. The Saints win yesterday was VERY instructive there. Many great catches by Saints receivers.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            LOL! you are on a roll today.

          • evantonio

            Exciting to get someone on the rise. Brings out the best in all of us.

        • SC Dave

          As usual, it is about the lines. The Titans dominated minated the los in the second half.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Is blowing a 21-3 lead because the TE went out?

    • BearDown100393

      Usually the same folks ASSUMING Andy Reid called the offense (at least) in the 2nd half are also the same folds DEMANDING PROOF Nagy actually did.

      Whatever fits the narrative.

      No longer matters.

      Pace’s fate is hitched now to Mitch and Matt.

      Pace, Mitch & Matt – Successful NFL triumvirate or the new owners to Premiere Properties?

  • BuddhaJoe

    Kinda ambivalent about this. Don’t hate it, don’t love it. If he can keep the D staff intact I’ll feel much better about it.

    • I feel the same way.

      I don’t think anyone here was promoting Nagy like Toub, Flip or even McDaniels, but at least Nagy isn’t some arena coach.

      • Bear Instincts

        …and that’s why most of us are not excited about this. it seems out of left field. most of us were caught off guard. but that’s how some of us felt about MT10. but now we are happy we have him. maybe lightning strikes twice

        • SC Dave

          I read the article about 6 conversations, and I feel better about it than I did.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Cos we had a killer defense …. wait ….

  • BearDown100393

    Hobo: You know, when Trestman was forced out, he sat down and wrote two letters and gave them to me. He said – “When you get yourself into a situation you can’t get out of, open the first letter, and
    you’ll be safe. When you get yourself into another situation you can’t get out of, open the second letter”. Well, soon enough, I found myself in a tight place, so I opened the first letter. Which said –
    “Blame everything on me”. So I blamed Trestman, it worked like a charm. I got myself into a second situation I couldn’t get out of, and I opened the second letter. It said – “Sit down, and write two letters”.
    Nagy:[laughs]Yep.

    • Bear Instincts

      LoL

    • That Guy

      If you made up this joke, you’re a comic genius.

      • BearDown100393

        Disclosure: Cribbed off Traffic. I might annoy here but I am honest.

  • BearDown100393

    Initial honest reaction:

    At least Pace did not hire Jeff Fisher.

    • Bear Instincts

      or Mel Tucker

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        not yet…. we still may need a DC.

        • BearDown100393

          I’m partial to Vic staying but unconvinced he wants to be here.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Ray Thomas, a founding member of British rock group The Moody Blues, has died at 76.

    • Bear Instincts

      yeah, was listening to NPR this morning when they talked about it.

      Otis Redding’s ‘Dock Of The Bay’ was released 50 years ago today, less than a month after Otis Redding died at the age of 26.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Moody Blues did a lot of songs I really like.

        Your Wildest Dreams

        Tuesday Afternoon.

        Night In White Satin

        The Story In Your Eyes

        Questions

        etc.

        • CanadaBear

          They were still good live. I saw a concert on TV that wasn’t very old and they sounded pretty good, all things considered.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Absolutey.

            PBS.

            Royal Albert Hall from just a couple years back, I believe.

    • Irish Sweetness

      That’s called reaching, Al.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Really? Since when?

  • catfish44

    If you are a Bears fan, this is required reading on new HC Matt Nagy –> https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/941794267596550149

    • Big Mike

      read it and posted a while ago. Great Story.

      • SC Dave

        Indeed. A good read.

        Makes me more optimistic about our new coach.

  • Bear Instincts

    https://twitter.com/1_ChiefsKingdom/status/950421190903988224
    Bombshell! Nagy to Bears was a done deal before Chiefs playoff game.
    Reid took back play scheming and calling to allow Nagy time to prep for
    his interview. Nagy helped script first 15 plays with Reid, who then
    took over play calling.

    • Scharfinator

      Does that mean we were tampering? Or is that only players?

      • No tampering. Reid could’ve told Nagy – hey, you’re calling the game, and better prepare for it. Fuck the interview.

        But supposedly Reid was being nice and allowed Nagy to prep for the interview, which naturally took time away from Nagy prepping for the playoff game.

        Reid figured he could take back playcalling and not lose.

        He was wrong.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Being nice? Could have (did) cost them a playoff game!

    • Wow. If that is true (never heard of source – could be the Chief’s version of Lemming), I would be PISSED if I were a Chief’s fan.

      This would be how it plays out.

      Fact. Chiefs came out like gangbusters. Went up 21-3.

      Fact. Nagy helped script those first 15 plays, but supposedly Reid took over playcalling thereafter.

      A. because of the game’s importance
      B. because he allowed Nagy to prep for the Bears interview

      Fact. Chiefs O went to garbage in the 2nd half, presumably when Reid was playcalling.

      They lose. Nagy goes to Bears.

      That link also observed that Reid did the same with Pederson, that perhaps he wanted both to become HCs maybe at the expense of the team in the short run.

      Crazy.

      • John F

        This sounds a little circular, but if Reid makes it easy for his assistants to get better coaching jobs, it is easier for Reid to replace them because coaches that want to move up will go work for him.

        If you want to be a long-term head coach, you’d better be able to keep refilling your coaching bucket.

        • Yeah, but the point to attaining top coaches is TO WIN THE SB.

          Not to lose 6 straight home playoff games.

          Imagine if the Bears told Buddy Ryan not too worry that much about the D in 85 playoffs, to focus more on HC interviews.

          Bears fans would’ve lost their minds.

          I’m not complaining though. Thanks, Andy!

          • evantonio

            I mean, they only had 2 shut outs. Buddy was clearly checked out.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      Score was still 21-3 at the half. Maybe the Titans adjusted and the Chiefs did not (especially after losing Kelce) ?

      The goose egg in the second half does look bad though.

    • ButtonShoes

      That guy’s got 1000 followers. I think we can do better for a ‘source’ than that.

      • BearDown100393

        Must be true if on Twitter……

  • Bear Instincts

    https://twitter.com/chisportupdates/status/950459686041550849
    @MikeSilver said that Vic Fangio told him that he still hasn’t made a decision. Packers are talking to him.

    • Big Mike

      Bad move by Fangio. One team rising the other falling. Bear Down.

      • ButtonShoes

        Why do people think that Fangio is the only DC out there worth a damn? There are plenty of others. Frankly one that understood that takeaways and interceptions are part of a modern defense would be nice.

        • What DCs are out there who are equal or better than Fangio?

          I’m not a huge Fangio fan, but I can’t think of a better option.

          • Big Mike

            he’s pretty damn good. but one of the DCs that are HC candidates will be available

          • BearDown100393

            Vic did his job but I do not get the vibe he really wants to stay

          • Irish Sweetness

            What was his job? Pressuring the opposing QB? Uh uh.

          • Irish Sweetness

            A better option … than what?

            Just one of you …explain.

        • BearDown100393

          Mel Tucker Syndrome

        • John F

          You need MUCH better players than the Bears have on defense to do that

          • Irish Sweetness

            Bollocks. You just need to have BIG. BRASS. BALLS/

    • BearDown100393

      If he does not want to be here, goodbye.

    • Irish Sweetness

      (crosses fingers)

  • CanadaBear

    From Matt Bowen.

    From a scheme/development perspective, Matt Nagy’s offense is a positive
    for Bears QB Mitchell Trubisky. Think of the core west coast concepts
    in Nagy’s playbook. That’s the quick throws on routes breaking inside of
    the numbers. Timing and accuracy. Get the ball out. And Nagy will
    utilize Trubisky’s mobility in the passing game. Play-action, boot and
    sprint. Plus, Trubisky is a really good fit for the Spread/RPO concepts
    we saw in Kansas City this season. Lot of movement and creativity there
    to generate open throwing windows. This is a modern NFL offense that
    should lead to production and a jump in development for Trubisky.

    • I’m looking forward to the Spread/RPO.

      Never understood why Fox didn’t run more of what Trub was comfortable with.

      I think Nagy will lean on the Spread/RPO more esp early on as Trub familiarizes himself with the more WCO terminology and route trees.

      Just as long as Trub doesn’t run as much as Wentz or Watson, should be a great boost to the O.

      My big concern is Trub having to digest a complicated playbook while he’s still trying to dissect D.

      Might be a lot to ask in his first yr in the system.

      My secondary concern is the Trestman effect – bunch pussy screens, slants and hitches for like 2 yds.

      Hope Nagy can find the right balance between WCO, run, and RPO.

      • CanadaBear

        Yeah, me too. As long as they limit his running plays, I’m OK with it. He’s good size but it’s pretty obvious he won’t stand up to poundings from the front 7. Just gotta be smart and slide a lot. I’m guessing MT and Nagy will be getting together pretty soon.

        • AlbertInTucson

          “As long as they limit his running plays”

          Yes.

          Not saying the Bears are in danger of this, but, if your QB is your leading rusher, a la Seattle and Carolina, your are a pretender and not a contender.

          • CanadaBear

            Wilson is a magician at avoiding hits. He’s as good as I’ve ever seen in that regard. Cam is a big dude but you just can’t take on the front seven and remain healthy.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Magician or no, Seattle has a seat for the playoffs right next to the Bears.

            Their rushing #s after Wilson were laughable.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “Trestman effect – bunch pussy screens, slants and hitches for like 2 yds.”

        No Tyreek Hill or Travis Kelce in Chicago, yet.

        • SC Dave

          Yet. Maybe Cohen and Shaheen…

          Howard better work on catching the ball. Hopefully Nagy is smart enough to use Joward effectively regardless.

        • Which is making me think maybe Nagy targets Ridly in the draft – a guy some compare to Cooper or Hill in explosion.

          • Irish Sweetness

            *Nagy* targets?

            Over Pace?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Why are people talking about Nagy’s offense when he won’t be our OC?

  • BearDown100393

    Just wondering how much prep time is really needed to prepare for questions from Ted Phillips and George McCaskey regarding coaching pro football?

    • ButtonShoes

      0. Because neither of them know anything about football.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      Have to only prepare for 1 question from Ted:

      “How many allowances do you claim on your W-4?”

  • Bear Instincts

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/08/report-seahawks-interested-in-bringing-back-gus-bradley/

    Report: Seahawks interested in bringing back Gus Bradley…the Chargers had the league’s third-best scoring defense behind only Jacksonville and Minnesota

    Gus Bradley for DC if Fangio leaves???

  • BearDown100393

    “There’s no doubting what happened today. Ryan Pace got the coach he
    wanted. So many times in Bears history that hasn’t been the case for the
    GM. Now, we wait…”

    This is what I want to believe. And I think it is what happened.

    Hopefully this is a good for all.

    If not?

    Fire Pace.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Don’t worry.

      If Nagy fails, Pace is history.

      • BearDown100393

        I want this all to workout.

        But will it……

        • AlbertInTucson

          No sure things other than death and taxes.

      • Absolutely. The Bears are now tied to Pace, Nagy, Trubisky at the 3 most important positions in the franchise for the next 3 years. It’s highly likely they all fail or all succeed.

        • Yeah, should be a 3 yr cycle.

          Franchises should sink or swim with GM-HC-QB.

          in 3 yrs, Bears will either be competing for a SB, or searching for all 3.

          The bad news is, the Vikes and Loins look good, and GB will always have a puncher’s chance with Vadgers.

          • BearDown100393

            It is getting weird in Green Bay.

          • AlbertInTucson

            What do you mean, “Getting”?

          • BearDown100393

            Good point.

          • SC Dave

            Just have to be better.

          • Irish Sweetness

            This is all we should give any one. 3 years. Ryan, you’ve got a year.

        • ButtonShoes

          If they fail, they’ll all be out of here in 2 years, not 3.

          • BearDown100393

            Failure is not an option!

            Chug.

          • Not likely. They all will have 4 years on their contract, which gives them a 3 year window before a decision gets made.

  • beninnorcal

    Well, I’m hoping for the best, but this is the Bears we’re talking about here. They’ll probably be looking for a new gm/coach combo by 2020.

    • beninnorcal

      I really hope I’m wrong, but odds are not in favor of that being the case.

    • BearDown100393

      Maybe the blind squirrel finally gets the acorn.

  • BuddhaJoe

    And as anyone could have predicted, Rosendouche is already shitting on the hire before the contract ink is dry. How does such a large market get stuck with such abysmally shitty sportswriters?

    • BearDown100393

      He only op-eds

    • That’s why I’m glad Jahns broke this story instead of the usuals. It’s recognition from the Bears of a great beat writer doing great work.

      • Did the Bears punish Biggsy for insisting all pre-draft that the Bears had to draft a QB?

        Or were they worried if they fed him more info he would explode like that chinese dude in Big Trouble in Little China?

        • SC Dave

          Too many beany farts i bet.

    • Rosendouch is that racist grumpy grandpa we can’t take anywhere and secretly wish to die sooner rather than later.

      • BuddhaJoe

        If he reserved his hate for when it’s more deserved I’d like him. Every once in a while he writes a good one. But he’s just so overwhelmingly assholish that it’s tiring. Kind of like the Adam Dunn of sportwriters.

      • BearDown100393

        I hate haters!

    • SC Dave

      But you read it, and hence are part of the problem.

      Shunning trolls is the only solution.

  • willbest

    Indifferent, is my response. Don’t have any issues with his resume, and nothing about his time with the Chiefs has me thinking he will be a particularly good or bad fit. Glad the search is over early. Glad the Bears signed their HC first (excluding Gruden and F that contract) so I don’t have to wonder if the Bears didn’t get who they wanted.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I heard that 4 candidates told Pace during the interviews that they would not coach for the Bears, and that 3 of them were Paces top choice. So Pace did not get who he wanted.

      • willbest

        heh, you should have just pointed out that 4 of the 6 couldn’t be hired and Pace is impatient.

        Vic didn’t tell him that, so Nagy would have been the other one. Leaving Shumer, McDaniels, DiFillipo, and Edwards as the 4 that told Pace to sod off, and none of them could be hired beyond a handshake deal right now.

        But then we come to character. McDaniels is that much of an ass, but I doubt the others want to have the other owners hearing about that when Gina and George talk about the help at the country club.

        • SC Dave

          Nagy is the man. Wait and see.

      • BuddhaJoe

        Then why bother interviewing in the first place? Sounds like bullshit.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          That was a joke.

      • Really? They came in and told Pace “I’m here, but I don’t want to be here?”

        Or are you doing your best Button Shoes impression?

        • willbest

          His goal was to piss in my cheerios. But it didn’t make any logical sense.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            yep. just trolling. People making assumptions all over the place and I figured I would stir it up a bit.

          • BearDown100393

            You probably got it right though.

            My optimism over all this is now over.

            Fack Pace. Sell the team.

          • willbest

            The team should be sold, preferably to me. I will give the McCaskey’s all the profits for the next 20 years in exchange for their 80% stake.

          • BearDown100393

            Only if you fire Ted Phillips.

          • willbest

            Why would I keep Phillips, he doesn’t have naked pictures of me. I never asked him to bury a body. He isn’t my patsy with the IRS

          • BearDown100393

            Good answer….

          • SC Dave

            Pathetic trolling, as no one believed it.

        • BearDown100393

          I hate needless negativity!

  • Sactowns#1

    So with the HC in place, who does everyone think we will be getting as an OC?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Ron “3rd time’s a charm” Turner

      • BuddhaJoe

        I think that name should be banned from the blog as a micro-aggression.

        • SC Dave

          Hahaha

          A macro-aggression, you mean

      • CanadaBear

        Norv maybe, Ron no.

      • AlbertInTucson

        You KNOW I dislike profanity.

    • BearDown100393

      DeFilppo

      • I would mangasm if that happened.

        I hope the Eagles win this weekend so that all the positions are filled by the time they lose.

        However, the NFL tends to be reactive. Reaching for a guy who’s never even been an HC may be too much for multibillion $ crumedeons.

        • willbest

          If he is that good, the Eagles won’t let him go

          • Flip should demand to leave then.

            This is as hot as his name is going to get. Wentz is coming off an MVP type season. The Eagles are hosting an NFC playoff game. He’s done OK with Foles.

            If teams pass him over this yr with all that going, what happens next yr when he continues as a QB coach and Wentz regresses or gets inj again, and the Eagles go in the dumpster?

            If I’m Flip, I bolt to either be HC or OC and improve my resume.

          • willbest

            He can demand whatever he likes, it depends on what his contract says though. Granted it doesn’t help your organization attract talent if you are going to prevent them from advancing, but then he did want the security of a multiyear contract.

          • SC Dave

            He could quit, no?

          • John F

            Can’t quit, not if under contract

          • BearDown100393

            OC position is a step up. Looks bad if they hold him back or do not offer the equal position themselves.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            They can’t stop him if the new position is a promotion. He is only a QB coach in Philly.

          • willbest

            Pretty sure the promotion step only applies to HC’s not moving from position to coordinator.

          • John F

            The rule is, if you are under contract a team can block you from interviewing and being hired away by another team. The ONLY exception is if you are being offered a head coaching position and you are not already a head coach under contract. That is why all the “co-head coach” BS started, to block teams from hiring away (or even interviewing) coordinators, Dline coaches, whoever. What I don’t know if there is some limit as to how many “co-head coaches” a team can have.

          • That’s what I thought, but apparently Philly can indeed stop him from getting an OC job even though it’s a promotion.

            I dunno how that’s even legal, but that’s how it is now.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I looked into it and as close as I can tell. All coaches that are not HC are considered assistant coaches. There is no differentiation between levels anymore. So in theory being a QB Coach puts you on the same level as an OC. However, I am sure the salaries don’t match.

          • Yeah, it changed. I think they did it because teams would add BS titles like “assistant HC” to a DC/OC who others wanted to poach.

            I can understand that cuz it was really just a lateral move.

            But OBVIOUSLY if Flip gets an OC gig, it’s not just gonna be in name, and indeed be a promotion from QB coach.

            And the Eagles already cockblocked him from doing just that. They do it again, and Flip misses on HC, then he might get irate, and other “assistants” won’t want to go to the Eagles.

            Seems like bad form all around, esp since Pederson came from the Reid tree who would promote the fuck out of his underlings to land promotions.

          • SC Dave

            And Reid’s attitude is what allowed us our HC

          • willbest

            Its legal because he isn’t an at will employee. He is hired under a specific service contract. Now the amendment against indentured servitude means I can’t send the sheriff out to his house and drag him into work. But it does allow me to prevent him from working in his capacity as a coach in the national football league until he has fulfilled his contractual obligation to me.

            And this isn’t just a situation for coaching. Why do you think a deal needed to be made when Lynch unretired. The Seahawks still controlled him. You find them a lot in any field that requires decision making or lots of creative input C-executives, artists, entertainers, novelists, etc.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Pat Kirwan, on NFL network, said today the NFL changed that policy/rule recently and teams no longer have to allow interviews, even for promotions.

    • WP4Life

      …deshaun watson

    • That’s a good question. I wonder what TYPE of OC Nagy wants.

      A recycled OC (former HC) to help him with the O so he can focus on other shit, like D, specials, draft, FAs, etc…

      Or does Nagy want a young ascending OC who will basically stay out of his way and be more like a Sanchize type sounding board?

      • willbest

        Sanchize as the QB coach

        • John F

          He would probably do that if he can’t get another backup job. He’s making $1mm (or close to the league minimum for someone with his tenure), a rookie QB coach probably makes $125,000-$250,000 (maybe)

    • Irish Sweetness

      It’s weird. Was he hired because of his offense? And then has to turn over the Bears’ O to somebody else?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Lovie was hired for D. guess what? we ran Lovie’s D. Also Nagy was the OC at KC but it was Reid’s O. This year was the 1st time Reid gave up play calling ever when he gave it to Nagy.

        The HC is going to put the schemes he wants in place. We will run an offense that Nagy wants. Since Nagy is an offensive coach he will influence the offense the most, and most likely just hand the D over to someone to run with little input.

  • Bengals hire Tyrel Austin as DC .

    One less suitor for Fangio. Maybe even a clue.

    I seriously believe it’s between the Puke, SF and Bears.

    • SC Dave

      Not GB please

    • John F

      Probably SF, they have a great QB who will be around for the next 10 years.

  • WTF is going on in Cheese country?

    “It could be the latter. McCarthy made a public power play on Thursday,
    talking openly about the importance of a “fit” with the new G.M., and
    sending the not-so-subtle message that he could choose to walk away
    before the new G.M. runs him off. With Russ Ball, who also emerges from
    this search with a new title and greater authority, previously on track
    in the opinion of some to be the new G.M., McCarthy’s comments may have
    been calculated to ensure that Ball didn’t become the new G.M. and that,
    ultimately, no one other than Murphy would have the ability to control
    and direct McCarthy’s employment”

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/08/mark-murphy-mike-mccarthy-emerge-from-g-m-search-with-bigger-roles/

    • BearDown100393

      Vic really want some of that huh?

      • I like the very first comment:

        “So scapegoats were fired and those that should have been fired were given more power?

        I guess thats how it goes in GB.”

        • SC Dave

          Or Chicago

          • evantonio

            Or government.

    • willbest

      I have no idea who is in charge up there, but whoever it is seems to finally subscribe to the theory that Aaron Rodger’s time is being wasted.

    • ButtonShoes

      Whatever happens, let’s hope they implode.

      • If I’m Rodgers, I get the fuck out while I still can.

        Imagine him on the Jags next season? Holy shit.

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          Packers would get maximum value for Rodgers right now. His contract runs for two more seasons.

          The Packers “brain trust” might have wanted Rodgers to come back early from injury just to show he still has it. Rodgers wanted to come back early anyway, but it had to be cleared.

          Brought back for 1 game. And then put on IR.

          GO JAGS!

    • BuddhaJoe

      Pretty big talk for a thoroughly overrated coach. If he’d had a Grossman instead of Rodgers he’d already be selling used cars.

      • SC Dave

        His record is comparable to the new $100M coach in Oakland.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Overpaid, for sure.

          But Gruden I’d win with Rich Gannon and Brad Johnson as QBs.

      • John F

        If he had Grossman he would have tied a cinder block to his neck and jumped into Lake Michigan

      • BerwynBomber

        Grossman?

        If he had Cutler he’d already be selling used cars.

  • BearDown100393

    GM Ryan Pace
    HC Matt Nagy
    OC John DeFilippo
    DC Vic Fangio
    QB Mitch Trubisky
    2019 Super Bowl Champions

    • willbest

      would drink that koolaid

      • BearDown100393

        I really want to

    • Irish Sweetness

      Not with Fanny-O … sorry. He doesn’t get it.

  • willbest

    The case against Cliven Bundy and his sons dismissed with prejudice due to prosecutor fuckery. Unbelievable. And this is a high profile case where they should have known to dot the i’s and cross the t’s nevermind the withholding exculpatory evidence.

    • John F

      Never assume prosecutors are the “good guys”

      • SC Dave

        Waco should be enough evidence. I assume nothing.

    • So if you’re a minority with a bag of weed and a .22, get 20 yrs or shot in the face.

      But if you have a cowboy hat, an m14 and owe the feds millions, you go free.

      Got it.

      • BearDown100393

        25 if you also wear the hoody.

      • willbest

        Apparently, Bundy said the reason they were armed is because they were being surveilled by the feds who has snipers trained on them, and the prosecutor suppressed evidence that the feds were surveilling them with snipers trained on them.

        Basically, paranoid vs. perceptive.

        • John F

          Please don’t sugarcoat this. The prosecutors removed witnesses from their witness list that would have helped the defense, all in the name of “witness security”. The judge dismissed the charges “with prejudice”, which means the DOJ cannot retry them.

          You have to screw up pretty severely as a prosecutor to have a judge do this. It probably happens less than 5% (and this may be a high estimate) of the time when cases are dismissed – at least in the federal system.

          • willbest

            I was just explaining what facts the Feds were trying to hide. The prosecutor should be disbarred, but then that doesn’t happen as often as it should. Doctors, Cops, Lawyers, Shrinks, teachers, nobody polices their own.

    • SC Dave

      Should I care?

  • Listening to the Score for first time this yr.

    16 points a game under Reid
    29 points a game under Nagy

    Reid became predictable. Ds ran cover-2 or nickle effectively (Steelers blueprint). Alex Smith reverted to being a cuck – no real threat beyond 20 yds – Hunt was all but abandoned.

    When Nagy took over, all that changed. Supposedly kept things more simple (remember that WCO bible?) and loose. Allowed Smith to throw deep. Went back to Hunt. Points went up.

    Hopefully the NFl doesn’t figure out Nagy the same way they figured out Reid and Tresty.

    • SC Dave

      If Trub learns to not throw the ball behind Howard, we’re fucking golden.

      Or maybe throw the screens to Cunningham.

      With The Freak in the slot. Killer.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Howard has become a problem methinks. When he comes out, and a smaller dude goes in, it’s a pass to the RB.

        Telegraphy in football is not cool.

  • evantonio

    Any Jeopardy watchers? My sister was on tonight. Zero Bears questions

    • CaponeBot 1.0

      Very cool, how’d she do?

      • SC Dave

        This!!!

    • Hope you taught her the answer to “Who scored 4 TDs in one game for Polk High”

      Never know.

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        You know it’s Al. My god I wanted to be with that trashy tv wife.

    • AlbertInTucson

      A long time go, I passed the Jeopardy test back when they traveled around for contestant searches.

      I would be challenged to compete today as my knowledge of Pop Culture sucks.

  • Irish Sweetness

    I’ve asked this Q a few times but never saw an answer.

    Why do people like Vic Fangio? Help me out, I don’t get it.

    Specifically, what has he done that was special?

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      He coached the Bears this very season to the 8th ranked defense in the NFL. The #1-7 coordinators are not available for hire.

      • Irish Sweetness

        8th in Takeaways, INTs ?

    • The short answer: he is not Mel Tucker

      The long answer: who is a better option?

      • EnderWiggin

        hmmm Del Rio?
        Edit: He also adds HC experience, which we lack all of the sudden.

        • Might as well bring back Fox as DC.

          Bears Instincts actually brought up a good name in Gus Bradley the Chargers DC who is due to become free.

          Two drawbacks with him – more of a 4-3 guy
          Chargers were 31st in run-d.

          • EnderWiggin

            ouch. DelRio = Fox? brutal

          • All those ole boy networks should be flushed.

            Fisher. Del Rio. Fox. Marvin Lewis. The Ryans before them…put out to pasture.

            Edit. Check out the Raider’s D rank (who had talent) vs a weak ass AFCW.

            http://www.nfl.com/teams/statistics?team=oak

            Rodgers, Lesbo, Keenum would’ve posted 50 burgers on those Raiders.

          • EnderWiggin

            /shrug. I like the idea of an old HC becoming a coordinator. Maybe they’ll end up being great like Wade. Then again, they may end up like Martz.

          • Wade is different. He’s always been an excellent DC. He sucked as HC, but then made the Donks a top D that won the SB.

            If Del Rio or any other older coach had that type of recent resume, I’d be all for it.

            But there’s no Wade type this yr at DC.

            The closest is Fangio, which is why the Bengals, Puke, Loins, SF were sniffing around.

            I suppose the Bears could take a chance on a younger more unproven DC, like say some assistant from the Jags or Vikes, but then we have an unproven HC and DC, which might be a bit much for Pace and Georgy.

          • John F

            Jack Del Rio = John Fox, Jr.

            93-94 regular season
            1-3 playoffs
            0 SB appearances

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Shit. Even with his crash and burn in Chicago, Fox ended up 133-123 with two Super Bowl appearances. That’s a considerable gap back to Del Rio.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That’s not a bad idea. Stick Fox … wait … he’s gone .. .but it was a good idea.

    • John F

      Did you see the caliber of players on our defense? There are like 3 or 4 guys who would even make the 53-man roster of the other 31 NFL teams. And somehow they ended up a top 10 defense.

      • LeBlanc, McMannis, Prosisnki, Anderson, Timu, Houston (off the scrap heap), Acho, Cooper, Hall…

      • Irish Sweetness

        Top 10 Defense????

    • BearDown100393

      He is not Mel Tucker.

    • willbest

      I get that you live in Buddy Ryan’s world, but Vic has proven track record of competence against HoF QBs. Truth of the matter is Buddy Ryan wouldn’t be able to hack it as anything other than a D-line coach in the modern NFL. Games changed.

      • Ryan’s philo was based on psychological warfare.

        Crush the QB. Scare the shit out of the QB. Mug the WRs. Dominate.

        Can no longer crush QBs or mug WRs.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Unless you’re Seattle. Then you can mug wide receivers. Although that changed a bit this year.

          • John F

            Or the Patriots in the Rams/Patriots superbowl

        • Irish Sweetness

          So you just leave the QB alone to have a field day?

      • John F

        The rules changed

    • SC Dave

      He turned the WORST DEFENSE IN THE HISTORY OF THE FRANCHISE into somethimg respectable.

      • willbest

        But sometimes he only rushes 3 guys, and that is the same as kiddie diddling in Irish’s book.

    • CanadaBear

      We’ve all answered you repeatedly but you don’t like the answer.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Honestly, I haven’t seen any C-Bear, maybe it’s the next day, or there’s a new thread … I genuinely haven’t seen any.

  • Viva Dave Toub

    Dave Toub for STC.

  • SC Dave

    So the great battle for bragging rights between plantation owners begins.

    The slaves will soon fight for the glory of their athletic department emperors.

  • This feels eerily like when the Bears hired Trestman in 2013. Not saying that Nagy is Trestman, but he’s essentially charged with the same task as Trestman:

    Build a modern O around a franchise QB.

    Emery and Trestman pretty much bought as many FAs (Bennett, Bmarsh, Bushrod) and drafts picks(Alshon) to help Cutler, to no avail.

    Can Pace-Nagy succeed where Emery/Trest utterly failed?

    Hmmmm.

    Here’s some TBT articles for perspective (Wayne’s World Flashback…)

    “Chicago Bears General Manager Phil Emery did not succumb to the league-wide consensus promoting Denver’s Mike McCoy as the “hot candidate” for a head coaching gig. He did not make the safe, David Haugh-approved (I know) decision to reward Bruce Arians’ ten-win season
    as interim head coach of the #Chuckstrong Colts by moving the 60 year-old lifetime football man into a larger office a few miles west. Hedid not, even after what felt like three dozen interviews, move in the
    direction of a young, hungry offensive coordinator like Mike Sullivan, Darrell Bevell or Rick Dennison.

    Phil Emery hired Marc Trestman, the head coach of the CFL’s Montreal Alouettes. – Jeff

    http://dabearsblog.com/2013/marc-trestman-named-head-coach-of-the-chicago-bears

    More Trestman rational which sounds vaguely familiar…

    http://www.espn.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/8848801/chicago-bears-hire-marc-trestman-former-cfl-coach-year-montreal-alouettes

    • ButtonShoes

      It wouldn’t shock me if it ended up the same way Trestman did. But we just don’t know. Nagy is too much of an unknown to really say anything, other than he doesn’t overwhelm or underwhelm.

      • Yeah, Naggy has enough there to get behind. Then again, so did Trestman, who arguably was more qualified with a longer track record.

        Heck, Jeff loved the Trestman pick initially, lauding it as ‘outside the box’ and thinking he’d be the one to FINALLY squeeze a winner out of Cutler.

        Obviously, didn’t pan out.

        Maybe we gotta watch out for some “red flags” like Tim Brown’s.

        Receiver Tim Brown, who was with the Raiders when Trestman was the team’s offensive coordinator, wasn’t as high on the coach as Young, however.

        “Idon’t want to say it was a joke, but I just never saw Trestman as being
        a head coach,” Brown said Wednesday on “The Waddle & Silvy Show” on
        ESPN 1000…”He’s a really smart guy, knows football like the back of his hand.
        That’s not the issue,” Brown said. “But there’s a lot more to coaching
        than just Xs and Os. You have to be able to deal with players”

        Tim Brown, savant extraordinaire.

        • CaponeBot 1.0

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        • willbest

          Cryptkeeper never had a job longer than 2 years though. Nagy, might be the opposite. He has never been without Andy.

    • willbest

      Trestman was a too cute by half pick. Nagy seems like a solid contender, and Andy Reid knows how to train coaches.

      • BerwynBomber

        Plus, Bisky upside > Cutty upside (or so says my early suspicion).

        Also, far as we know, Nagy is not inheriting any lockeroom cancers, a’la BMarsh and to a lesser extent Uni.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah it is very similar in that Nagy was obviously hired for Bisky as Trestman was hired for Cutty.

      I’m not too worried. Unless Nagy starts talking about growing the man during tomorrow’s presser.

    • AlbertInTucson

      With the Bearsit ALWWAYS seems to be “Build a modern offense.”

      • Irish Sweetness

        A ‘modern’ offense …. like offense is all that complicated.

        Can you run the ball four yards? Can you stop the other team from running it three?

  • AlbertInTucson

    The “Mayhem” spots for Allstate are still entertaining.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      I agree. And his annual salary is in the range of $1M per year.

      • AlbertInTucson

        My favorite is still the “Bungee Cord” spot where he is just tossing crap out of the back of a pick up.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Having a current 16 year old daughter driving, I enjoy the teenage driver bit.

          • AlbertInTucson

            (Shudder) Glad we made it thru ThAT stage of like.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Chump change for an insurance company.

  • AlbertInTucson

    TWO Ridley receiving brothers on the field tonight.

    Baby brother outshing Calvin.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Georgia QB better learn how to slide.

  • BerwynBomber

    Semi-remarkable that Saban has been as successful at AL as he has w/out a very good QB.

    This Hurst kid stinks. The best I think they had down there was McElroy, who was a game manager type but pretty solid.

    On the flip side, wouldn’t be surprised if this Fromme kid eventually finds his way on an NFL roster. Lots of poise for his age, and considering he is a frosh, he will be very, very seasoned.

    • AlbertInTucson

      ‘Bama wins with defense that takes the ball away and set their offense up.

      Hurts is there because he can run and he takes care of the football.
      1 INT all season.

      This is still a ballgame with The Tide Getting the ball to start the half.

      • And against 90% of the opponents Bama can run the ball pretty much at will.

        The overall talent on the team is such that there’s only 1-2 games a year when the QB is needed to do anything besides not turn it over.

      • BerwynBomber

        Hurts has been benched.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Ballsy move by Saban that paid off. Maybe too little too late though. Georgia seems to have their number

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, too late, and the true frosh just threw a killer INT.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            That was one of the dumber throws I’ve seen in a while. His teammate was blocking downfield with his Back to the QB. Stupid.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Love hurts.

  • Tucker national champion?

    • BerwynBomber

      Looking like it … though he got lucky that the OK HC had an extended brain fart for an entire 2nd half and OT period.

      • AlbertInTucson

        This isn’t over.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      which nation?

  • BerwynBomber

    I sense #48 won’t be on AL next year.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      LOL. Or be games end. That kid needs therapy.

  • AlbertInTucson

    ‘Bama D wearing down….?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Big stop.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Had one there.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    new thread again.

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