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If Bears Go Offensive Head Coach, Shurmur the Conservative, Uninspiring Choice

| January 4th, 2018

Three days into another boozeless, eight-week run, I have started to develop a bit of a sweet tooth. (This grows and grows as the eight weeks progress.) My go-to thirst quencher in this regard is the gelato from the fine folks at Talenti.

And they have flavors. Double Dark Chocolate is my favorite. Toasted Almond is incredible. Coffee Chocolate Chip makes your heart sing with the sweetness of an early-90s animated Disney heroine. Caramel Cookie Crunch takes you down a wild forest road where the squirrels whistle your favorite song and woodchucks protect your children as the family sleeps.

They also have Vanilla Bean. It’s steady. It’s reliable. It’s not going to make you pause that episode of Billions (starring Chicago Bears fan Chris Denham) you’re watching, turn to your girlfriend and say, “This is incredible!” But it’s not going to upset you.

Pat Shurmur is Vanilla Bean.


Resume.

Shurmur’s career is interesting.

  • He spent ten years in Philadelphia under Andy Reid, coaching tight ends, offensive line and quarterbacks. Two things about this. (1) How many coaches are in charge of three position groups during one stint with an organization? That kind of versatility is why Shurmur profiled as a successful head coach. (2) He coached Donovan McNabb to the most prolific passing resume in Eagles history.
  • He left Philly to join Steve Spagnuolo’s staff in St. Louis. 2009 did not go well, with the team winning one game being quarterbacked by Marc Bulger and Kyle Boller. After drafting Sam Bradford – the last QB to get super rich on draft day – the team improved to 7 wins with the rookie putting together a solid (if conservative) 60%, 3,512 yards, 18 TDs, 15 INTs.
  • The following season, before being hurt, Bradford’s numbers plummeted. (53.5%, 2,164 yards, 6-6.) His offensive coordinator that season? Josh McDaniels.

  • Mike Holmgren hired Shurmur to be Browns head coach for the standard two years you get in Cleveland. He got a decent season out of Colt McCoy in year one and got nothing out of Brandon Weeden, because Weeden is terrible, in year two. Fired.
  • His last two jobs have been nothing short of spectacular. Under both Chip Kelly and Mike Zimmer, Shurmur has led some of the most dynamic and productive offenses in the league and he’s done so with quarterbacks like Nick Foles and Case Keenum. Shurmur credits Kelly with changing much of his offensive philosophy. In 2017, Shurmur was the best assistant coach in the NFL hands down.

Video.

Listen, the Flip video was exhilarating. This video is…not.


Verdict.

Nobody could argue with Shurmur becoming a head coach in 2018, even in Chicago. He earned a second opportunity with his work in Minnesota this season. But in my mind, Shurmur is part of a long line of coordinators who are better served in that role. Some guys are great football minds but not great head coaches. Norv. Wade. Arnsparger. Buddy Ryan. Shurmur is a diet version of these guys.

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  • Bear Instincts

    Flip First

  • Viva Dave Toub

    Dave Toub for HC.

  • BearDown100393

    “Listen, the Flip video was exhilarating. This video is…not.”

    If this was the criteria, Jeff would hire Flip over Belichick.

    • Bear Instincts

      Flip your self out of being a Bears fan

      • BearDown100393

        None of you are.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Think people really forget what Belichick was like before he won a million titles in New England. He used to do brilliant radio spots in NYC. He had a personality. And still does. He just doesn’t give a shit anymore.

    • catfish44

      lol. good comment. i wonder if belechik’s wife considers him exhilarating. i would bring a pillow to his press conferences.

      • BearDown100393

        Using Youtube videos of canned coach talk as some type of evaluating criteria is beyond idiotic and beneath sensible discussion.

        • Bear Instincts

          With all this wisdom you have im left wondering why you are not coaching an nfl team right now

          • BearDown100393

            No you aren’t.

          • Bear Instincts

            I know you are but what am i

          • BearDown100393

            Absolutely nothing of concern or substance.

          • Bear Instincts

            I know you are but what am i

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Good luck

      • SC Dave

        I’m curious, have you passed your twelfth birthday yet?

        • catfish44

          listen here sonny! i am probably older than you so why don’t you go crying back to your mommy.

          • BearDown100393

            He was hatched.

  • Bear Instincts

    Is Pace not requesting to speak with Matt Patricia as a cover like the one he pulled to draft MT10? He,s going to be in New England for McDaniels so why not interview Patricia too while he is up there?

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      …sounds too lame to be possible. It would come out publicly anyway eventually and Patricia getting the call on setting up a “sneaky” several hour long interview would be thinking you have to be kidding me.

      Better not to show interest in McDaniels at all if really after Patricia.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Because he’s shown no reason that he could be a HC? I don’t even like his defenses.

  • willbest

    catfish44 from the previous comment thread linked https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/naming-a-play-caller-as-head-coach-only-way-for-bears-to-guarantee-qb-stability/amp/

    My thought on getting a playcalling HC in order to maintain continuity would be to note that if Trubisky and the Bears offense is so impressive in 2018 that another team is willing to poach our OC, I won’t be all that concerned about who is calling plays in 2019. It will mean Trubisky has the skills to execute a competently designed game plan.

    • Bear Instincts

      Agreed but at the same time i dont want him changing systems every few years. We dont need/want Cutty 2.0

      The way Firefox had his say over the offensive philosophy is the same way i want the new HC to be. It will be his vision of the offense that is being executed not that of the OC unless it is a blend of the two vision

  • Sactowns#1

    I had an epiphany this morning. Gym shorts will be our next HC. It’s too much of a head scratcher not to be true.

    • Bear Instincts

      Lay out a better reasoning than an epiphany

      • Sactowns#1

        Because he’s probably the coach we least want, the coach that least fits the teams needs and the coach that’s a project to shoehorn into the current model. That all spells Pace.

        • Bear Instincts

          Makes sense but leta hope this snow washes him out of Paces mind as a potential HC

        • beninnorcal

          I’d still take him over Fisher.

        • Bender McLugh

          jeezus Sac

        • AlbertInTucson

          Schwartz as Loins HC:

          2009: 2-14

          2010: 6-10

          2011; 10-6 (45-28 Wildcard loser to Saints.

          2013: 4-12

          2014: 7-9

          He was 9-19 in the NFC North in that stretch.

          2-8 vs. The Packers.

          5-5 vs. The Bears

          • Sactowns#1

            Pace: “Sounds like a project. Sign that man!”

    • Cubsnlinux

      Epiphany my ass. I would wager that you listened to too much Score yesterday. They were all over making Gym shorts the next Bears HC.

      • Sactowns#1

        I never listen to the score. ESPN 1000 is my go to. I was listening to Kap this AM and they were talking offense, offense, offense, and I thought “oh man, Pace is going to try to outsmart you all per usual.”

    • CanadaBear

      I”m guessing George remembers all those dirty hits and late hits, as in no to Gym Shorts.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        agreed. there were a lot of discipline issues under Gym Shorts, that is something Pace and George will shy away from.

        • CanadaBear

          Whenever a team is dirty it comes from the HC. If it’s an isolated player or two that’s on them but when the whole team does it … As much as I dislike Harbaugh I would have loved to have seen him and Shorts duke it out after that game. Pretty sure Harbaugh would have taken him apart just because of the crazy factor.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Schwartz is more weasel and less hard ass too. Harbaugh would kill him.

      • SC Dave

        Let’s hope so.

  • Scharfinator

    Jeff, I have to say, I love the ice cream metaphor to start the article. Fun writing.

    • That Guy

      That Talenti stuff is really good. And when you’re done, the plastic containers & screw-on lids are great for organizing stuff in your garage.

      My kids love the mango ice cream, so I’ve got a couple dozen containers filled up with various nuts, bolts, screws, and nails.

      • Irish Sweetness

        New Bear feeds bolts and nails to his kids!

  • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

    “People talking about dearth of candidates for NFL head coaching gigs this season. Were McDermott, Joseph, Lynn, Marrone really exciting a year ago? McVay was a complete unknown.“

    Jeff has a better way of saying things than I do. This is my point regarding the supposed “HC class” being weak. It’s a load of bull. In general terms, Pace can choose from damn near anybody in football. In specific terms it’s almost impossible to know which, if any, is going to turn out to be “the guy”. It really is a crap shoot. I suppose you have to go with your gut. Perhaps something clicks in the interview.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Is McVay a genius? Or is Gurley just the next big thing? Is that defense a killer defense?

      Build the trenches and whoever the coach is, will win games.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        Maybe. Or maybe it takes all phases of football clicking along to sustain success.

  • That Guy

    Meanwhile, Phil Emery makes a reappearance at Halas Hall to suggest an out-of-the-box HC prospect: a youth league O-Line coach who posts thoughtful critique on a blog about the Bears.

    “I mean, it’s not like he ever coached in the CFL!” Emery shrieked as security escorted him from the building.

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  • willbest

    I want to see 1 person win mega millions followed by that same person winning powerball as a single winner for following day just to see how the country responds.

    • Bear Instincts

      I appreciate the well wishes…lol

    • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

      Not well

    • That Guy

      And it still wouldn’t be enough money to buy an NFL, NBA, or MLB franchise.

      • willbest

        Not after taxes no. But it would be enough to get you the principle investor stake in a venture to purchase one, which if managed well would allow you to consolidate eventually.

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          “if managed well”

          Lottery winners tend to invest poorly. Supposedly (?) there are high rates of depression, addiction, and even bankruptcy.

          (plus the leagues have to approve the buyer cause do the other owners want to think of this lottery winner as being as good as them? I don’t think so.)

          • willbest

            I wouldn’t be so sure about denying a lottery owner a stake. Sure Limbaugh, but if a Mark Lipton of Dayton Ohio and his $700 million lottery winnings puts in the most attractive offer for the Carolina Panthers is the ownership going to tell a little guy to fuck off? How would that sit with NFL fans around the league?

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            “How would that sit with NFL fans around the league?”

            …easier than paying for seat licenses for season tickets.

            Seller might want the highest price but the other owners would think it would diminish their long-term value by selling to a plebe instead of business or hereditary loyalty.

            Professional team ownership is a status symbol. Selling to a lottery winner negates the status.

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

            there is no way in fucking hell that a lottery winner gets consideration. The viability of the owner/entity itself is also questioned. The future financial viability is taken into account. A lottery winner from Dayton Ohio has incredibly finite resources because he was probably a shitty middle school teacher before that and not a business magnate.
            non starter.

          • willbest

            The grandkids of the founder of the league haven’t been able to shit can a team with 20+ years of neglect and mismanagement. The Chargers played this season in a fucking high school stadium. And the owners of both teams are banking $100 million this season. And I don’t think you could put a worse team together than the Browns if you tried.

        • evantonio

          Litecoin.

      • Bear Instincts

        you need at least 2 billion to buy a sports franchise

        • Irish Sweetness

          If had 2 Billion, I’d spend it on the Bears. I would. I’d spend every penny of it on the Bears.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I know how the winner would respond. With absolute anonymity.

  • Bear Instincts

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/04/concerns-emerge-regarding-jon-gruden-derek-carr-relationship/

    Gruden should be near the top of the list for Pace

    “He’s in your face, he’s blunt, he’s extremely honest. At the same time, he’ll be extra hard on a quarterback if he knows the kid has talent. The quarterback has to remember it’s only because he wants him to be better and knows he can be better. . . . If he wasn’t yelling at you, that’s the bigger concern. It’s all for the greater good. It’s only going to make you a better quarterback.”
    Simms said that, in the end, the haranguing is “all to make you better,” and that Carr will “learn more football under Gruden than he’s learned in his entire career.”

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      Seems a forgone conclusion he’s going to the Raiders. And I’d not be to sure he’s “The Guy”. He may still be. But I’d be looking for somebody closer to the early middle part of their coaching career than a guy coming out of mothballs.

      • beninnorcal

        And he may actually be some genius but I really never understood all the Gruden love. I find him annoying.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Going to Super Bowls will do that for you.

          • beninnorcal

            And back to back appearances with different teams is wild but he landed in a good spot after leaving the Raiders(TB). Even the current Raiders are a year removed from being very competetive, I’m sure that will have been part of his decision.

          • BerwynBomber

            So basically when we thought Fox was an excellent, slam dunk HC.

            Keep in mind that a couple of the Fox’s post-season runs involved Peyton Manning.

            Gruden never had that luxury. He had to turn Gannon into an MVP candidate and then game manage Brad Johnson to an SB win.

            I’m no Gruden advocate — l like him as an announcer but think he should stay retired from coaching — but I also don’t get belittling his accomplishments.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            I’m not belittling him at all. He may turn out to be really good again. I thought highly of Fox when the Bears hired him. Just a little perspective is all.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Fox is a lot older though, he just gave up. Look at him.

        • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

          Bucs D won that championship season.

          • Irish Sweetness

            D always wins it!!

    • BearDown100393

      And so should Vince Lombardi. And Bill Walsh. And Knute Rockne.

      Add all the names you want to a list. Makes no difference.

      Davis is reportedly offering a percentage of franchise ownership relocating to Las Vegas which will only increase its value infinitely more so than any past/present/future value of being Oakland based.

      The Bears are not going to match whatever Davis truly has on the table.

      As for coaching ability, I do like Gruden’s X and Os, understanding of offense and management of quarterbacks.

      I do not agree with some opinions here dismissing Jon Gruden as being overrated.

      • Sactowns#1

        Gruden has already come out saying there is NO validity to the ownership stake rumor.

        • John F

          The only coach who ever got ownership (that I know of) as part of their deal was Lombardi with the Redskins (5%). Even then there were likely buyout provisions where he would be forced to sell the stock back if he was fired or died (which unfortunately he did).

          • BerwynBomber

            Didn’t Shula have a minor ownership stake in MIA?

      • John F

        Gruden coached for 11 years, was 95-81 in the regular season, 5-4 in the playoffs and won one Superbowl because the Raiders forgot to change their audibles.

        Why does everyone need a fainting couch when they hear Gruden’s name?

        • BearDown100393

          He isn’t Christ.

          But he sure as crap ain’t Hobo.

        • BerwynBomber

          Anything above .500 with a decent sample size is commendable in the post-season. The Patriots are an outlier.

    • John F

      Gruden hasn’t coached in 9 years, that is an ETERNITY from an NFL standpoint.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Haven’t ridden a bicycle in twice that. Bet I could get on one now, whaddaya think?

    • Irish Sweetness

      To me, Chucky is the ONE guy you want for developing a QB. You get his sense that QB is his wheelhouse when you watch his QB camp videos.

      Remember MT’s?

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    ” another boozeless, eight-week run”

    I’m at Week 7. Day 50. Easy as falling off a bike (It’s hard to fall off a bicycle after learning to ride,and so it takes some time to unlearn the unfalling part.)

    Probably will go more than 3 months without since the bars where I am working out of town now are lame or suck. Too lame to even watch a playoff game.

    Not much of a sugar freak (I can’t remember the last time I had ice cream), but regular doses of caffeine are way more important right now.

    • BearDown100393

      No need to stop at 8 weeks.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yah, keep goin’ man. Nearly ten years for me. Feel good everyday!

        • BearDown100393

          That is truly awesome

  • evantonio

    Dave Toub can outscheme all these guys and turn seventh round picks into All Pro entities. You know it and so do I.

    • BearDown100393

      If hired Head Coach, he would also force choke Ted Phillips.

      • Irish Sweetness

        YES! That’s a MFer that needs to be force choked.

        Can we do Star Wars XIII yet? Is the spoiler-ban lifted?

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          if they haven’t seen it by now it’s their own fault.

          • Irish Sweetness

            IKR! If you wait more than three days to see it then you’re a casual.

            SW had been out a day already and I’m getting the twins ready to bring them to an evening showing .. wife goes “Where do you think you’re going?”. I point to the kids, “we’re going to see Star Wars [motherfucker]”. “No you’re not, it’s too late, it’s too dangerous. Why can’t you wait til tomorrow, it’s Saturday. Fkn Star Wars! What’s so fkn great about Star Wars?”

            I was speechless. Doing the whole WTF-thing silently with my hands. Exasperated. Then the coolest thing happens. I look at the twins and they’re doing exactly the same thing. Back off mom!, you don’t get it!

            2 hrs 30 min – they never fell asleep like BR2. I was so proud.

            Anyway:

            1. Snoke getting clipped was so weak. Two movies. We don’t know who the guy is or where he comes from … then he gets owned by the petulant kid. Sad.

            2. Luke should have ACTUALLY gone to Krait … force-frozen Kylo with his right hand … and dragged the Supremacy Star Destroyer down onto the planet’s surface in the greatest demonstration of the Force in SW-lore. Tell me that would not freak fans the fuck out.

            3. Trim that Canto Bight sequence down to 5 minutes and lose the cows.

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

            Snoke wasn’t even Sith. He was just some punk that stepped into the power vacuum. Fuck Snoke.

            There are no more Sith Lords and Luke was the last Jedi. Now it’s just about human will and a couple of force sensitive millennials running around being bitches.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s fkn dead though. Sad.

  • BerwynBomber
    • BearDown100393

      No excuses.

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  • BerwynBomber

    Been hearing about this for a month or two. To his credit Cowherd was the first one I heard put two and two together after the Pats seemingly weird reversal regarding JimmyG.

    If the report is true, wonder if Hoodie will retire at the end of the post-season and then look for a VP of Football Operations gig with another franchise.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/04/espn-story-about-patriots-coming/

    • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

      Like sands in an hourglass, these are the days of our lives.

  • catfish44

    This Friday, McDaniels will be interviewing for the Bears head coaching job. Of all teams looking for a head coach, the Bears present arguably the most intriguing opening. A young team, with a plethora of young pieces on both sides of the ball, just waiting to be developed. The main thing that may draw McDaniels to the Bears is the opportunity to work with Mitchell Trubisky. Placing Trubisky under the guidance of McDaniels could help the entire Bears offense take the next step and for Trubisky, potentially make a second-year jump much like that of Carson Wentz or Jared Goff. Just the fact that McDaniels has worked with Tom Brady for so long could mean a difference in the development of Mitchell Trubisky ————https://beargoggleson.com/2018/01/04/josh-mcdaniels-the-next-bears-head-coach/

  • catfish44

    That’s the challenge for Bears GM Ryan Pace in his search for a coach to replace John Fox. There is no shortage of hot coordinators and position coaches with impressive résumés. But he’s hiring a coach, and the trick is finding someone who will make an impact on all three phases of the team. ———https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/bears-ryan-pace-knows-the-hot-coordinators-finding-a-leader-is-the-tough-part/

  • Darrell Horwitz

    I don’t want them to hire Shurmur, so bet everything you have the Bears will hire him. Before they hired Trestman, I said I don’t care who they hire as long as it’s not Trestman.
    Shurmur fits the organizational stereotype. Kind of quiet, laid back, won’t create waves, and in a word: boring. McCaskey and Phillips look for ‘leaders’ like them, and he fits that bill the best. I am sick of falling asleep during boring press conferences by the likes of Dick Jauron, Lovie, and Fox. Shurmur would fit in perfect, so book him as the next Bears coach.
    My choice would be deFilippo, but what do I know? A hell of a lot more than the Bears ‘braintrust.’

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