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Flip the Script: Bears Should Hire Eagles Quarterbacks Coach

| January 1st, 2018

At the end of the 2013 season, when Phil Emery was looking for Lovie Smith’s successor, I wrote a column endorsing Kyle Shanahan for the job. That column was met with across-the-board rejection from not only readers but friends in the media and around the league. My argument was simple. I thought Shanahan was going to be a great head coach soon enough, knew he had a terrific relationship with Jay Cutler and wanted the Bears to grab him before he became a hot commodity. Sure enough, a few years later, Shanny went on to create explosive offenses in Atlanta and become the hottest coach on the market in 2017.

John Eugene DeFilippo is that guy right now.


Resume.

Let’s just go through Flip’s career and see what he’s accomplished because it’s rather remarkable for someone who is only thirty-nine years old.

  • He began his NFL coaching career on Tom Coughlin’s staff with the New York Giants. Never a bad thing to get your first exposure to the league under one of its greatest coaches.
  • After two traumatic seasons in Oakland (‘The Kiffin/Cable Years’) he was the rookie year QB coach for Mark Sanchez in Jersey. Sanchez, coming off one year starting in college, struggled through that season but then turned everything around in the postseason. With Trubisky trusting and relying on Sanchez, Flip could probably convince him to stay on as QB coach and now the Bears would be building a similar coaching coalition to what exists in Philly.
  • Flip left the Jets, where he was splitting duties with former Bears OC Matt Cavanaugh, and returned to the college ranks. His work at San Jose State was apparently pretty damn good but who is really doing a deep dive into what’s good and not good at San Jose State?
  • He returned to the pro ranks, coaching both Derek Carr as a rookie and coordinating the Browns for a year with a quarterbacking trio of Josh McCown, Johnny Manziel and Austin Davis. That trio completed 60% of their passes for 4,156 yards, 20 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. That trio. Did that.
  • He’s been the QB coach for Carson Wentz and been primarily responsible for the Wentz transition from lost rookie fading down the stretch to MVP candidate. And let me tell you this. If Nick Foles takes this team deep into the playoffs, Flip will have the suitors stacking up.

The Leap.

Listen, is the jump from position coach to head coach a big one? Yes. But two things. (1) Andy Reid did it once. (2) Flip has already been a coordinator, even if only for one year, even if only for the Browns. And Flip also sounds an awful lot like a head coach. His players agree. From current Eagles backup Nate Sudfeld:

“I think the sky is the limit for him,” Sudfeld said. “I think the world of him. I don’t know how much my word means, but he has a very bright future and he’ll be around the game for a long time.”

“He is awesome,” Sudfeld said of DeFilippo. “He’s exactly what I was hoping to have in a quarterback coach. His attention to detail has been awesome. obviously he has three quarterbacks, but he treats us all like we’re the most important guy in the room. That’s been really, really awesome.”



Is this the safe choice? By no means. If David Shaw or Jim Harbaugh would leave their current college gigs, and I don’t think either would, they’d be home runs. Dennis Allen, Pat Shurmur and Jim Schwartz are coordinators with previous head coaching experience who frankly deserve a second look in the league. The hot coordinators (McDaniels, Patricia, Wilks) and McVay clones (LaFleur, Nagy) will be easy sells to fan bases.

Flip takes a bit more guts to hire.


The Argument Against.

I understand the argument against Flip. Why not hire a defensive-minded head man and bring him as the offensive coordinator? Hell, his contract runs out in Philly at the end of the season. My answer is simple. Bringing Flip in as OC means the Bears could be one good Trubisky season away from losing the team’s best offensive mind. Look at how the Falcons offense has tanked in the transition from Shanahan to Sarkisian. Yes, the great offenses have great quarterbacks for the most part. But they are also led by men like Payton, Reid and McCarthy – guys who set the tone and approach for the offense every single week, even if they give up play-calling every once and a while.

And I would add this: I’m way more interested in Flip as head coach than I am as OC. Some guys just profile as a leader. Flip is one of them.

The number one priority for the Bears when making this hire is raising Mitch Trubisky’s game to the level of the game’s elite and there’s no other current NFL assistant with Flip’s track record of doing just that. He has gotten the absolute most out of the most important position in sports at every stop in his career.


The Larger Questions.

Two big ones.

  • Is he ready? This, more than anything else, is what Ryan Pace would have to determine during the interview process. Is Flip ready to lead an entire franchise? There’s no way of knowing the answer until the Bears kickoff the 2018 season and we may not know until 2019 or beyond.
  • What is his defensive approach? Someone with Flip’s background is likely going to want to turn the defense over to someone and give them autonomy. This is a model that’s proving successful across the sport. But who would that person be? Vic Fangio? Chuck Pagano? Rex Ryan is terrible on television…just saying.

Quotes

NFC Personnel Man: “He’s a head coach. Some guys are just head coaches. He’s one.”

AFC Personnel Man: “Always judge an assistant coach by how afraid their current team is of losing them. The Eagles are terrified of losing Flip.”


The. End.

Flip’s my guy. He brings experience, expertise and fire. He’s the kind of energy this locker room needs right now. And I think he’d make Mitch Trubisky one of the best quarterbacks in the league in the next two years. If the Bears bring him to Halas Hall for an interview, they may not let him leave.

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  • catfish44

    dave toub.

  • Big Mike

    I don’t know about all that Jefe…

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      It’s a pretty hard sell. QB coach in Philly to HC in Chicago has got to be a GIGANTIC leap.

      • Big Mike

        Bold move. Maybe it’s the right one. Thought Fox was the right guy at the time. Never liked Tresticle. Not for a minute.

        • CanadaBear

          I tried to like him initially but when he started with that “grow the man” hooey, it was all over for me. I was hoping he was a visionary on the O. Turns out he has a decent scheme but no answers when it doesn’t work. Ugh! 3 years of PE and 2 years of Nessman is cruel and unusual punishment.

  • CanadaBear

    I’m glad Irish didn’t lose any money! Happy New Year to everyone on the blog. I’ll let SRV take over from here.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Ding dong the witch is dead. We all won!

  • BearDown100393

    Apparently last night’s drinking has not ended.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      …We should promote the kicking coach!

      • BearDown100393

        Chug!

  • evantonio

    If the punt return TD last week wasn’t a sign for Toub, well I just don’t know what’s what.

  • Dis Guy Trublinsky

    I don’t think I’d even consider Harbaugh. What was he 44-19 in San Fran or something like that? And they could not wait for him to leave.

    • CanadaBear

      Not exactly tearing it up at Michigan makes you wonder. Near as I can tell Harbaugh wears everyone out eventually.

    • Bear Instincts

      3 NFC Championship Games. 1 SB. Nuff Said

      • DBears

        Fox had 2 SB appearances…. you want him back?

    • DBears

      Completely agree.. follow UM closely. the guy is a clown and his offense at UM has been anemic at best and the QB play is terrible. Quote all the SF records you want… if it was all puppy dogs and lollipops then why did they let him go?

  • CanadaBear

    I have no idea if Flip is the guy but a quote from a backup WR is not convincing. How many players on the Bears talk about Foxy like he’s Knute Rockne?

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      Yeah, I don’t put much stock in that. Hate to say it, but about the only time players have anything of value to say on this type of issue, is when it’s bad news. They all just tend to spout off what’s expected in the press otherwise.

      • CanadaBear

        No doubt. I’d be the same way. No reason to close a door just to make a reporter happy.

  • Pretty Boy Assassin

    I’ll say this…he passed the video test. Guy is not an idiot. I know an idiot when I see one. I knew it the second I heard Tucker that the guy was a moron.

  • catfish44

    we should go defensive minded coach. this is chicago, defense and running the ball. fox would still be hc if the running game was not complete crap this year. let’s bring back Lovie.

    • CanadaBear

      Many fish bite if you use the right bait. This isn’t the right bait!

    • John F

      “Let’s bring back Lovie”

      In the running for the dumbest idea of the last decade

      • catfish44

        your face is the dumbest thing of the last decade. you should run home to your mommy.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Your first two statements are accurate. I concur.

  • Dis Guy Trublinsky

    Not sure why, but my gut keeps telling me it’s going to be McDaniels. Don’t know if that’s a good thing or a bad thing.

    Maybe the second time around he’ll be better. On the one hand, he did realize pretty early he wanted to move on from Cutler, on the other hand, he thought Tebow was the answer. I just don’t know.

    Thought this was an interesting read from three years ago.
    https://www.denverpost.com/2015/01/27/patriots-josh-mcdaniels-admits-to-mistakes-when-broncos-coach/

    • BearDown100393

      Go for it

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        All in all, I see a guy that’s already been “in the shit” so to speak. But he was super young at the time. If he’s learned and matured, that experience is as valuable as winning can be. He’s still young in terms of NFL coaches and has plenty of energy and imagination from what I can tell. He’s been part of the most successful franchise in the game for a long time. He’s worked directly with a great quarterback (although that might be why he looks as good as he does). He knows how to feature a tight end, or even two, to unfuck the passing game. I just like the thought of a guy like this, bringing along Trubisky, Shaheen, Howard and Cohen. Just think what a creative, offensive minded coach could do with Cohen.

        My biggest cause for concern: coaches tend to flame out when they leave the shelter of Bill Belichick.

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          He was tested in the media fire after sucking in Denver. He survived. That’s something at least.

          And being a decade older helps. He was freaking 33 years old in Denver. He probably has realized that no matter how hot he thought he was once, he’s not shit compared to Belichick. He’s going to have to work his ass off to win a Super Bowl without him and Brady.

          Bring in Rex Ryan as DC and let the media circus begin!

          I would prefer Toub or Flip though. Flip….just because that’s a good name for a coach.

          Rivera? Might prefer his winning team now compared to a rebuilding team. I’m guessing he’ll get an extension soon before the Panthers get sold.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I doubt Rivera gets an extension before the Panthers sell. FYI they have an ‘interim’ GM at the moment.

          • BearDown100393

            No way Rivera let go without a fulltime GM and team up for sale

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            retaining Rivera would show stability to new ownership (and hence a higher selling price) is what I am thinking.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Rivera is under contract through next year, which is why I don’t see him getting an extension before the sale.

          • BearDown100393

            He has unique leverage

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            …and he’s not a dick. He would ask for reasonable terms on a 3 or 4 year extension and should get it.

            Rivera’s not going to ask for total control of the sun and planets along with an ownership stake like Gruden (or a young McDaniels).

          • BearDown100393

            Bears should have fired Smith and promoted Ron.

          • John F

            I cannot agree with this statement more

          • BearDown100393

            Rivera earns every dollar

        • BearDown100393

          He did not want Cutler. Probably would have put the brakes on Giraffe’s signing also. Give him 3 year deal with option 9n the 3rd.

    • CanadaBear

      He was such a complete jagoff in Denver, it makes me wonder if he will ever get it. To me it seemed like he was so arrogant that he thought he could put the Midas Touch on Tebow and make him great. Uh, no.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        But was it maturity? Or is he just a dickhead? I really don’t know.

        • CanadaBear

          Neither do I but if I had to guess I’m going with dickhead. I’m OK with that as long as he’s a great HC!!!!!!!

        • BearDown100393

          If he wins who cares?

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Because they don’t last long. I want a long term, successful coach.

      • BearDown100393

        Ditka

        • Irish Sweetness

          A Lombardi-winning HOFer and multiple-championship winner, capable of reining in thoroughbreds and steering them in the right direction.

          I wish.

    • UCF Bears Fan

      I’ve had the same feeling. Hoping its like Belichek. Second time is the charm.

    • catfish44

      hard to judge mcdaniels. is it nearly all belichick/bradly there?

      • John F

        Yes, it is

    • Irish Sweetness

      His eyes are too close together.

  • BearDown100393

    Hobo is gone and I feel strangely at peace

    • Irish Sweetness

      It was a nice thing to see with my morning coffee. Like having a lump removed with no operation.
      It’s just gone.

      • BearDown100393

        One tumor removed.
        Another one to grow.
        Bears way.

  • catfish44

    i have been watching a lot of college football and since i am in florida i got a chance to watch a lot of georgia bulldogs and their dc has really impressed me.

    • Pretty Boy Assassin

      lol

      He’s a moron.

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    As Bears GM, my interview question to Flip would be:
    “How would YOU execute Run, Run, Pass, Punt?”

    • Pretty Boy Assassin

      “Well, first off, I wouldn’t. I wouldn’t do that.”

  • AlbertInTucson
  • BerwynBomber

    Caldwell got hosed. Best HC DET has had in over 50 years. Lions being Lions.

    • BearDown100393

      Good. They will be crap next year.

    • Big Mike

      Bad move for the kitties.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, thought he did a very solid job there. Especially when considering that he lost two HoF-level talents in Megatron and Suh while he was there.

        • CanadaBear

          They were totally hamstrung by those #1 pick contracts year-after-year. Esp when some of those guys were stiffs.

      • Bear Instincts

        Not if they get Matt Patricia

        • BerwynBomber

          Maybe/maybe not. Thus far the Belichick coaching tree hasn’t yielded much.

          • willbest

            That happens when you aren’t willing to drink the blood of children.

    • CanadaBear

      Is Wayne Fontes available? I see he’s still on the right side of the ground and only 77.

      • Irish Sweetness

        It’s Detroit. It’ll be Wayne Newton.

        • CanadaBear

          Danke Schoen!

  • That Guy

    Had no idea who this guy was, and now I’d be happy with him as HC. Or Shaw or Harbs.

    One of those three. Which means we’ll likely get some Browns reject or fugitive from the Arena League.

  • Dis Guy Trublinsky

    Arians hangs it up. Not surprised.

  • BerwynBomber

    Joseph gets another year in DEN.

  • bearfaninde

    Breaking news…Flip interviewing w Bears..
    Are they really considering him for HC??

    • bearfaninde

      Seems like a stretch..Eagles QB coach to Bears HC?! He has been an OC for 1 year in league (w Cleveland). Also let’s not forget he was Jamarcus Russel’s QB coach

      • BearDown100393

        Nobody could be faulted for not saving J’Amarcus Russell.

        Except Russell himself.

        • CanadaBear

          The only thing Russell developed in the pros was his waistline. Nobody was getting through to him at that time.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’ll take Fox back. Seriously.

  • DBears

    Good read… I wouldn’t be upset with him

  • Bear Instincts
    • BerwynBomber

      Seems to have done an excellent job down there considering the state of their secondary after Norman left.

      • Bear Instincts

        MT10, Jordan Howard, Tarik Cohen don’t play defense.

        • BerwynBomber

          Of course. Would be mildly surprising if we hire a DC guy but wouldn’t be shocked.

    • BearDown100393

      So fans will be duped into the logic of hiring a QBs Coach instead.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      black guy. satisfies the Rooney Rule.

    • John F

      He was on Lovie’s staff early on, so he has Bears connections

    • Ryan Samsonite

      I hear he is a good candidate, and he’s black. Could be because he’s a good candidate or because of the Rooney Rule

  • BearDown100393

    “My favorite thing about Mitch’s 2017 is he’s already done the heavy
    lifting for a young QB: earned respect of ALL his teammates. Now he
    needs some coaches & professional receivers.”

    No, No, No.

    Now that he has almost a season under his rookie belt, he needs to pull up his big boy trousers and work his rear off during this off season.

    He needs to be physically stronger.

    He needs to review game film like no tomorrow.

    He needs that new TBA playbook ASAP.

    He needs to drill fundamentals over and over.

    The training wheels must be taken off. Not being Jay Cutler on the sideline is not heavy lifting.

    Pace needs to deliver the goods – coaches and weapons.

    The grind belongs to Mitch. Will he handle it? IMO yes.

    • CanadaBear

      Everything I’ve read he’s the last guy in the bldg every night. Don’t think motivation is gonna be an issue. Almost everyone could stand to be a little stronger and MT is no different but he’s fairly strong. He’s got a good lower base for sure. Definitely needs to drill the fundamentals to get rid of a couple of bad habits that lead to bad mechanics. Honestly, I don’t have many worries about MT getting it. He’s mature beyond his years and really wants it. Can he process faster (I’m sure he will) and stay healthy (let’s hope) are my big concerns.

      • BearDown100393

        He keeps working hard and he has potential to becoming a beast.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Don’t underestimate the value and difficulty of a young guy, especially a QB, earning the respect of his teammates.

      • CanadaBear

        The offensive guys all sing his praises and Hicks has been pretty glowing about MT. He came in respectful, worked his ass off, never complained and didn’t spit the bit, NTM he almost always says the right thing, pretty sure his teammates have his back.

        • which is important. At the same time, the same thing could have been said of Tim Tebow in Denver. I think it’s important that he has all the intangibles, but he also needs a lot of work on the physical and mental stuff this offseason too (which he knows, and I’m sure he will put in the work)

          • CanadaBear

            Good point about Tebow. I’m pretty optimistic about MT. Hopefully the new coaches will help him to the next level. Fingers crossed!

          • BearDown100393

            Tebow was beloved.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            …but was doomed by bad mechanics.

          • BearDown100393

            Those who praised him didnt care

          • John F

            Trubisky has awful mechanics also

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            No where near as bad as Tebow’s. Tebow had a very, very slow delivery which Mitch does not.

            Tebow’s awful mechanics were a hitch-in-the-giddyup bad for an NFL quarterback.

      • BearDown100393

        Some of those same teammates also are crushed Hobo was fired.

        5-11.

        I don’t care too much about locker room favorites until a division title and playoff birth are both earned.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          I can tell you have never been in a locker room of any kind.

          • BearDown100393

            Wrong again

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Reporting for the school newspaper doesn’t count.

    • That Guy

      Bullshit on he needs to get physically stronger. Did you see the YouTube video of him doing a 450 pound hang clean? He’s a fucking rock. He needs to keep the strength he has, sure, but he doesn’t need to focus on getting stronger.

      • BearDown100393

        Whatever you say. More to it than dragging around a rock.

    • Pretty Boy Assassin

      Agreed, and I trust him to do all of those things. We saw nothing but recognition of faults during the season and corrections following that recognition. Kid is going to get to work.

      • BearDown100393

        He is on the right track

  • BerwynBomber

    Cheese fire DC Capers.

    • AlbertInTucson

      He was told before the finale. Some here said they want Fangio.

      • CanadaBear

        Fangio is one of the highest paid DC’s in the league. Are the Fudgies cheap? If they are they won’t pony up for Fangio. Who knows? I hope he lands in the AFC or at the very least outside the NFCN.

      • Irish Sweetness

        (drops to knees and engages in fervent prayer and a decade of the Rosary)

        • AlbertInTucson

          Heh, heh.

          Raised catholic.

          Never did say a rosary or a stations of the cross and the confessional terrified me.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    So far 6 HC openings Bears, Cardinals, Colts, Giants, Lions, and Raiders.

    No word on Bengals. Lewis’s contract is up but he could be back for another year.

    • CanadaBear

      They have already agreed to part from what I read.

      • AlbertInTucson

        It’s my understanding that The Bengals want to keep him in the organization, but not as HC.

        He wants to remain HC.

        • BearDown100393

          He can be team’s bail bondsman.

  • CanadaBear

    Meredith sounds confident. Working with MT in the off season is music to my ears.

    http://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4707483/bears-wr-cameron-meredith-ill-be-back-on-field-by-training-camp

  • Viva Dave Toub

    Can Flip game plan? Can he exploit strength and mask weakness? Can he get a team to execute?

    Holy fuck. Have you really thought this through? This is about winning.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Can Toub?

      • BearDown100393

        Of course he can

      • Viva Dave Toub

        He’s been doing it exceptionally well for a couple decades.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          He is a special teams coordinator, who had the greatest return guy in history for years.

          • ButtonShoes

            Toub will get his shot. Probably in Indy.

          • Viva Dave Toub

            And Ayebaydejo, and, Shaw, and Gould, and Knox, and D. Manning and he got the very best out of all of them. His success is not accidental.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I would be ok with Toub. However let’s not act like he can do things he has never done before either. Game planning ST is not game planning a whole team. Every candidate that has not been a HC is going to have the same question marks, Game Planning? In Game Decisions? Player Management? The things that you only learn once they get the experience.

  • BuddhaJoe

    Not saying I’d want him but Jack del Rio got jobbed by Oakland. They didn’t do that great this year but they were a walking punchline before he got there.

    • BearDown100393

      Is he the guy who coaches a Super Bowl victory?

      I dunno either.

  • Bear Instincts
    • BearDown100393

      Michigan > Bears for Harbaugh

    • SC Dave

      Fuck Harbaugh. Asshole couldn’t beat a mediocre South Carolina, spoiling the Big Ten’s otherwise perfect bowl record this season.

  • BearDown100393

    Only the gullible truly believe anything told to the press

  • willbest

    FAs – Prince Amukamara, Zach Miller, Dontrelle Inman, Kyle Fuller, Kendall Wright, Mark Sanchez, Tom Compton, Christian Jones, McManis, Unrein, Houson, Cunningham, Acho, Sowell, John Jenkins, a bunch of kickers and long snappers

    RFAs – Bellamy, Meredith, Daniel Brown, Timu, Callahan

    Lots of holes to fill this off-season.

    • BearDown100393

      A lot of JAGs

  • willbest

    From Biggsy “#Bears
    president Ted Phillips said he and chairman George McCaskey will
    accompany GM Ryan Pace on interview trips. They all used the workd
    “collaborative” while making it clear Pace has final say.”

    I will take the fact that Pace still has training wheels as confirmation that he didn’t hire Fox.

    • BearDown100393

      Pace should resign if he cannot do his job without interference. He will get a 2nd chance elsewhere.

      This franchise is inept and defended by the equally inept

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        I thought only the gullible believe anything told to the press.

        • BearDown100393

          Which makes the reality of this hire even worse. Pace is a puppet.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            In the absence of logic and reason, I suppose you could make that case.

          • BearDown100393

            The Bears are indeed blessed to have a willfully ignorant fanbase easily manipulated and defensive of chronic failure

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            You are as involved as any fan. More than most. Aside from watching all the games and reading countless articles, you’re among the most active of posters on a blog dedicated to the Chicago Bears.

            Hell of a stand you’re taking there.

          • BearDown100393

            The righteous one.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            What? No caps?

            “The Righteous One”

            More fitting. Don’t you think?

          • BearDown100393

            Beats being village idiot

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Somehow you manage both. Probably just persistence.

          • BearDown100393

            This place will be corrected.

          • One Brown Bear

            Sadly Butch, he’s probably right but what the heck, we’ll find out in another… say… three years? It’s all just child’s play for the dark lord who sits under the dome at Halas Hall squeezing the golden goose while she shit’s out more of her sweet n sour egg drop soup.

          • BearDown100393

            These guys love Virginia

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Johnnywad here Trac. Not Butch.

    • evantonio

      Unless he had autonomy on Fox and this is the punishment.

      • willbest

        nice. Solid alternative theory.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      “Phillips approached Pace about the extension, and it was finalized earlier Monday. Pace confirmed he will have the final decision-making power in hiring a new coach after working collaboratively with chairman George McCaskey and Phillips.”

      Per 670thescore.com

      Nothing else matters. This hire is Pace’s to make. Whether Phillips and McCaskey are along for the ride or not, is meaningless. It’s Pace’s decision. He lives or dies by this hire and the ultimate success or failure of the new HC + Trubisky.

      • BearDown100393

        Whatever.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          Got it. Only the reports that fit your narrative count.

          • BearDown100393

            Meaning truth vs bias fiction

    • ButtonShoes

      So Ted Phillips is in the room, offering advice.

      In other words, HE’S A PART OF THE PROCESS. The exact thing everyone was worried about.

      • BearDown100393

        Defended here….

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        So in your imagination, GMs conduct interviews and hire head coaches set to make tens of millions of dollars in complete isolation from team Presidents and ownership?

        That’s how you think all other teams do business?

        • BearDown100393

          You got a point. The ladt time Puppet opened the checkbook, he rented a Giraffe. We should all be grateful to have Ted around to protect the McCaskey vault.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Yeah. Pace was the first GM to ever over pay for a QB.

          • BearDown100393

            Keep defending

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Ok. I guess I don’t really have to though. The Bears just extended him and gave him extra Millions. They’ve kind of got that covered.

            But you keep swinging little buddy. It’s really starting to make a difference.

          • BearDown100393

            It will. Change here is going to happen.

          • ButtonShoes

            Yeah, whether or not people like it. It may be good change or bad change, but things aren’t going to stay like this.

          • ButtonShoes

            If you didn’t have a problem with Pace overpaying Mike fucking Glennon, well…what else can I say? You obviously think that was an OK decision to make. We’ll just leave it at that, I guess.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Nope. I said it was a mistake. Multiple times. I’m not ok with it. But it’s not a fireable offense.

            Mike Glennon and Connor Barth were two very bad decisions by Pace. I’ve said it plenty of times.

            I’m just able to sort the entirety of the big picture better than you and Bear Down.

            It’s a process. And Pace is hitting more than he’s missing. You two act like a winning team and culture can be cultivated from the ashes of the Emery/Trestman era in short order. It can’t. Regardless of how much negative, shortsided bullshit you two spout, it can’t.

            Hopefully, the Bears are attempting to do what Theo Epstein did with the Cubs. I believe they are. You don’t. We’ll all know soon enough, but going full dipshit, and spreading nothing but doom and gloom on the board, on the day John Fox got fired no less, is just pointless stupidity.

            Try being less biased. Otherwise, I don’t know why either of you even bother with the Bears. You’ll never get what you want. Unless what you want is just to fling bullshit around.

          • ButtonShoes

            Glennon alone is not a fireable offense. Agreed. It’s Glennon along with everything else that is. And to even try to compare this situation with the Cubs is a comparison bordering on lunacy. The first step the Cubs made in getting better was changing ownership. You know, that thing that needs to happen here and hasn’t. Also, Ryan Pace is not Theo Epstein. On his best day he doesn’t have one-millionth the self-awareness, competence, and intelligence that Theo has on his worst.

            And the way people, like you for example, defend the Bears is not something unfamiliar to me. I remember encountering this exact same situation before, and it was with the Cubs. For years and years and years a lot of people made a ton of excuses for ownership and management during the Tribune Era. There was no end of excuses for the endless list of mistakes the team kept making. Always a defense of whatever dumb move or draft mistake they made, rather than an acknowledgement that there was something fundamentally broken with the team that had to be addressed and fixed before anything could get better. I got a lot of shit from those people too. Most of them are gone now. Not all, but most. Because it’s amazing what happens when you show people what a smart, successful team looks like. The defenses for mediocrity and failure stop and never come back. It’s very refreshing.

            And that’s what it’s like watching you and everyone else defend the Bears these days. You focus on symptoms and ignore the disease. You know, I can be a fan and yet be harshly critical. The two things aren’t mutually exclusive. Because why shouldn’t I be? What has this team done to earn my trust? You say I’m going “full dipshit.” Well I could say you and everyone else are going “full dumbass” with how you unconditionally you trust what Pace and the rest are doing. That’s not for me. Not anymore.

            Real change makes itself known from the get-go. It’s not a slow process, and doesn’t need to be. A winning culture can happen much faster than you think, and definitely much faster than what we’re seeing here in Chicago. 14-34 over 3 seasons is pitiful. Pace, Phillips, and George McCaskey are the ultimate authors of it, and they don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt from me, you, or anyone else.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            I do appreciate a reasoned, thought out, response. But I believe Pace is something closer to Theo Epstein. I’ve also said he’s got the next calendar year to show me. I believe the early piece of rebuilding is done. Time for phase two. I believe we will see wins in 2018. I believe he’ll make a good hire this month.

            If he doesn’t, then I was wrong. And we reset the clock. Back to zero. And if I’m wrong, I’ll gladly own it. I just think it’s far too early to give up on a GM that’s showing some balls, given what he had to work with. I like how he handles his business. Yes, he’s fucked up. Every GM does. But he’s on the right track. And we’ll all be better off for it.

          • ButtonShoes

            Well I hope I’m wrong and I hope you’re right, because I want to see a winning football team that knows what it’s doing. But I won’t believe it until I see it. Consistently. No more of these “catch lightning-in-a-bottle seasons” where everything manages to go right, you get into the playoffs, lose, and then don’t show back up there for another 5-10 years.

          • SC Dave

            Just block those asshats, man.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            I did that once. Then I logged on one day and more than 2/3 of the comments were “This User is Blocked”.

            I’m going to leave it alone though. Pace, Trubisky and the rest of the Bears will prove themselves one way or the other without regard to my take on the matter.

          • Ryan Samsonite

            I wanted Glennon.. I was wrong too. I thought he was better than what he was… shit happens.. move on… At least he signed the free agent with most upside, and drafted a QB as well… So where did he go wrong?

          • BearDown100393

            Ted overpaid.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We’re over-paying THAT MFer!!

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            McCaskey: “Ryan…you do know that giraffes don’t have arms, right? How is Mike worth…”

            Pace: “I know what I’m doing.”

            McCaskey: “Uh…okay.”

        • ButtonShoes

          I think that in the case of organizations where, if there is a demonstrated lack of ability in anything to do with football with regards to their team president or ownership, and you have an organization that has, for a very, very, very long time been considered a dysfunctional mess, I think that if you hire a football guy (and that’s what Pace is supposed to be, in theory), you make sure that everyone understands the football guy is in charge and everyone else has little or nothing to do with building the team.

          The Bears ought to be moving heaven and earth to make it abundantly clear that Ted Phillips has nothing to do with this HC hire, and they did not do that today. Saying the final decision rests with Pace and Pace alone is pretty much the exact same thing you could’ve said about the Fox hire, and we still don’t know beyond a shadow of a doubt whether or not Pace made that hire on his own or was forced to by ownership, Phillips, and Ernie Accorsi. There is no clarity here, and that’s a problem.

          At every opportunity George makes sure to reiterate that Phillips has his and his family’s complete and total support. Why mention him unless you want people to understand that he’s a part of the process and very important? Does Tom Ricketts, by contrast, ever even mention Crane Kenney when he talks about the Cubs and issues dealing with them? Almost never, if at all. It’s the difference between a team that knows what it’s doing and a team that doesn’t, and the Bears don’t.

  • BearDown100393

    Pace extended on the same record that got Hobo fired.

    Clown show

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      Hahahaha!!

    • John F

      Four more years of misery, thanks McCaskey’s !!!

      • BearDown100393

        Exactly

  • Pretty Boy Assassin

    24 points with 7 min to go in the half. That’s the Mel Tucker defense for you.

  • ButtonShoes

    Pace’s presser was a giant load of BS. He needed to go out there, own his mistakes and convince people that he was the right person for the job. He did neither of those things. Instead it was the same old BS that everyone at Halas Hall seems to spew when they work there. No accountability. No explanation for all the failure. A complete dismissal of everyone’s concerns. And of course, George McCaskey and Ted Phillips come off like the clueless buffoons that they are.

    • BearDown100393

      Just another clown now inside the mini car with Phillips behind the wheel

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      “Despite the failures through three seasons, Phillips stated that he still has a strong belief in the leadership and plan of Pace, who took the blame for what has occurred to this point.

      “I need to point the finger at myself as well,” Pace said of the Bears’ struggles.

      Pace confirmed he will have the final decision-making power in hiring a new coach after working collaboratively with chairman George McCaskey and Phillips, who plan to serve as “support resources,” as Phillips explained.

      While McCaskey and Phillips will be there for Pace, they stated this is the general manager in charge of their organization’s future.”

      Why do you two just ignore what’s actually being done and said?

      • ButtonShoes

        Wow. He said one thing. In a short sentence. I dunno about you, but I’d like something a bit more thorough than that.

        And the fact that McCaskey and Phillips are even there at all when they know jack and shit about how to run a football team or make a decision like that should terrify you.

        • BearDown100393

          Reading the cue cards

      • One Brown Bear

        Sounds a lot like the guy who’ll be holding the rubber stamp to me. Let’s just hope the clowns in Halas Hall get lucky for once. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut erry now n then.

        • BearDown100393

          We can only hope

  • BerwynBomber

    Ted Thompson out as Cheese GM.

    • ButtonShoes

      That’s bad. For us. That asshole might’ve gotten them Rodgers, but he surrounded him with crap. If they get a competent GM for a change we are screwed. Even more than we already are.

      • BerwynBomber

        But they kept McCarthy … AKA the most overrated HC in the NFL.

        Also wonder if Rodgers begins to age like Romo. He’s not very big and plays outside the pocket. I could see him never completely regaining his form after that throwing shoulder injury. Then again, he is a very smart guy, so even at 80% he will probably adjust enough to be a top 10 guy.

        • ButtonShoes

          True, McCarthy sucks (against everyone but us), so that cripples them somewhat. And a new GM might fire him and replace him with someone better. Also, Rodgers knows how to maximize the talent he’s given. At 80% he’s light-years ahead of most QBs in this league. And imagine they get a DC who knows what he’s doing with players outside of Clay Matthews who know what they’re doing. That’s a recipe for us continuing to lose to those fucking fudgies.

          • BearDown100393

            Maybe the Fudge will hire that QBs Coach from Philly to be the GM.

          • ButtonShoes

            I mean, if I had to pick between coaching Trubisky or Rodgers, it’s Rodgers all day. I can’t imagine any other prospective coach thinking otherwise.

          • BearDown100393

            And pass up the opportunity to rub shoulders with Ted Phillips?

        • BearDown100393

          The Fudge going downward here. Good news

          • ButtonShoes

            Let’s hope.

          • BearDown100393

            Still doing laps around us

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Bears fans should be disappointed by Ted Thompson report. He’s the only thing keeping the division competitive. Rodgers with a good roster is terrifying.”

    My thought exactly.

    The only thing saving us is that they kept McCarthy, who is 5-15-1 w/out Rodgers.

    • BearDown100393

      We should be worried about our hierarchy

      • BerwynBomber

        You worry about that enough for all of us here.

        • BearDown100393

          The Bears are one of the worst organizations in football.

          • ButtonShoes

            The Bears are one of the worst organizations in football professional sports.

          • BearDown100393

            And defended here.
            These are the Templar Knights of failure

          • One Brown Bear

            LOL

  • ButtonShoes

    “@jon_greenberg:

    Ted Phillips said one thing he loves about Pace is “he’s a very intellectually smart guy, it’s not just about Xs and Os.” #intellectuallysmartguy”

    Oh Jesus.

    “@jon_greenberg:

    Ted Phillips on what being “support resources” to Ryan Pace actually means: “Well, I think my years in this league, I’ve been around a lot of different head coaches…” (he continued on)”

    Holy shit, we are so screwed.

    • BearDown100393

      He outed Pace as his personal puppet

  • EnderWiggin

    2018:

    Home: Los Angeles Rams, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Seattle Seahawks, Tampa Bay
    Buccaneers

    Away: Arizona Cardinals, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, New York Giants, San Francisco
    49ers

    Looks fun!

    • Scharfinator

      Took me a second to understand the games you left out. Eventually I figured it out.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yup, he excluded all AFCN games. No easy pickings there.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      Never know what to make of that in January. The Patriots are about the only constant there. Might all be juggernauts or half of them might go to shit by September.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Wow.

      Well … the boy gets tested at home (and a few games away). That’s fer tootin’ sure!

  • Pace presser was about one thing and one thing only: this is Pace’s team, for better or worse. He, Trubisky, and the new HC will all have contracts that run through 2021, which means they have until 2020 (3 years) to sink or swim.

    This was a giant neon sign saying “RYAN PACE IS IN CHARGE.” The extension, the affirmation he chooses the head coach and will maintain say over who makes the roster.

    Anything else said was just meaningless platitudes.

    • BearDown100393

      Sure he is.
      Just as long as Ted and George “collaborate”

    • BerwynBomber

      Wait, who has say over who makes the roster?

      • BearDown100393

        Ted

    • One Brown Bear

      I wonder why they had to use a “giant” neon sign?

      • BearDown100393

        Because it seems more believable to some?

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          Wait. I thought they didn’t take responsibility for any of the problems? Which is it? Did they use a giant neon sign or did they not take any blame for the losses?

          • BearDown100393

            I hope they pay you well.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            I’ve certainly earned it.

          • BearDown100393

            You hold down the hut of failure quite well. Congrats

    • ButtonShoes

      I hope you’re right. I just can’t trust this team to do what it says.

      • BearDown100393

        “Meaningless Platitudes” sounds great for next season’s slogan.

  • Totally agree w Flip as HC.
    All i read are good things about him.
    Screw it. Go for it.

    • BearDown100393

      Green Bay naming him GM tomorrow

    • ButtonShoes

      I watched that video of Flip everyone keeps posting. The way he talks…he reminds me of someone that used to be on the Bears. I can’t quite pinpoint it, though. And I’m pretty sure I didn’t like the guy.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        Jesus Christ.

        • ButtonShoes

          Oh please.

      • One Brown Bear

        Are you sure it wasn’t his apparel? Hee hee

  • RenoBear

    Open post to Buttonshoes and Beardown 1000242526…. seriously dudes, we get it. Your incessant posts are absolutely brutal. Go start another friggin blog about how effin terrible the Bears are. Why do you waste your time here? Go away dudes. You bring zero to the blog except the same tired ideas of how terrible the franchise is blah blah blah… why do you watch? Why do you feel the need to bring everyone else down? The negativity is friggin exhausting. Take the same boring arguments somewhere else… you can set up a new ‘Hate DaBears Blog’ and enlist 99% of Score callers.

    • CanadaBear

      Somehow being keeper of the moral high ground is a full-time job. I’m a little baffled by it all.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        I’m tuning in my shield now. Truth is, none of what is said here means anything. I just grow tired of single minded, incessant, obsessive BS.

        The day Fox was fired, and the replacement HC search began, should have been far more interesting conversation about the future.

        Either the wins will come or they won’t. And so goes Ryan Pace.

    • ButtonShoes

      All I hear is “waaah, waaah, waaah, I can’t handle a contradictory view.” Tell you what, though: you can block me, Beardown, and anyone else that dares to pierce that precious bubble you keep yourself in where you don’t want to hear any bad news about this team. I’m sure that’ll make you feel better.

      Oh, and the gall to think that Beardown and I bring the place down. Or are you just ignoring the Bears and the 4 straight losing seasons they’ve played to date?

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      • RenoBear

        It’s not ‘the precious bubble’ or that I can’t handle a contradictory POV… it’s just the single minded ‘everything is wrong everything sucks, Ted Phillips is the boogeyman, ownership sucks blah blah’ it’s tiresome to hear every single post. Why waste your energy here? To each their own, man. Feel free… I was just speaking for the majority

    • SC Dave

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      “This user is blocked” sure causes me a lot of unnecessary scrolling here.

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  • ButtonShoes

    Here’s a nice article from a fervent Pace defender, explaining how the Bears botched the presser today:

    http://wgnradio.com/2018/01/01/hoge-same-story-at-halas-hall-as-bears-once-again-deliver-mixed-messages/

  • Irish Sweetness

    The Crap Report:

    Ian Rapoport

    @RapSheet
    The #Bears have requested permission to speak with two respected QB gurus: #Patriots OC Josh McDaniels and #Vikings OC Pat Shurmur, sources says.

    9:18 AM – Jan 2, 2018

    Flip is also on his way for an interview.

    Once more, the eyes of Mrs. McDaniels’ son are too close together.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Steve Wilks. Panthers DC. Likes to blitz. Pressure. Yes.

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  • That Guy

    Here’s the thing that both the die-hard detractors and the fervent supporters both miss:

    The Chicago Bears are a privately-held organization owned by a family who inherited the business and their wealth. Now, someone already pointed out this second part, that the McCaskey’s don’t have the business acumen and ideally (short of selling the team) should surround themselves with smart business and football people, and there are questions on whether they have done that or can do that. We get it.

    But it’s the first part of that statement that should be front and center in the minds of the detractors. This is a family owning a business. No matter how much you rage and criticize, they are completely unaccountable to you. Yes, to the fan base in general they have some accountability–if fans en masse stopped buying tickets, merchandise, etc., the McCaskeys would feel it eventually and get some sort of signal.

    But let’s be honest: that sort of thing ain’t happening. Go to Ohio, you’ll still see people buying Browns paraphernalia, and even fans showing up to games.

    So for those of you so incensed at the Bears’ management and ownership, what are your choices? You complain pointlessly. Pace ain’t getting fired. You are offended by Pace getting extended, what are you going to do? Complain some more. You will have no effect on the operations of the Bears. None. You hate Pace? He’s here for the foreseeable future. The people who hired and now extended him are even more secure in their places.

    Short of giving up on the Bears, your rage will lead nowhere.

    I’m not going to sit here and say, “Make your peace with something you can’t change, and figure out a way to be a fan who isn’t bitter about every move the organization makes.” Because it’s your life. You’ve got a right to your opinion–which, by the way, is no more valid than mine or anyone else’s–and this is Jeff’s playground, so as long as he’s OK with your posts, who are any of us to tell you to shut up?

    And I know what, deep down, everyone is looking for: we all want to convince people that what we think is right, is correct, is valid. We all want people to agree with us, to validate the way we think, our knowledge, and our assessment of the facts. And so you’re pissed at the Bears/McCaskeys/Phillips/Pace, and the more people who agree with you, the better you feel about your take on this thing that pisses you off.

    So let me ask this of everyone reading: how many times (on this board) have you had a dramatic swing in your opinion of something based on what someone here wrote? I’m not asking about people who, say, went from being Fox-lovers to posting with a Firefox logo because of his decisions and coaching this year (and prior), but instead the people who changed their minds about Fox because of what Jeff or one of the commenters wrote.

    I just don’t think it happens often. Psychology tells us it doesn’t. We rarely form our opinions due to evidence and reasoned debate. We form our opinions first, and then reinforce them through debate.

    That said, who are you trying to convince?

    I see a lot of “I said it first!” crap on the internet (including here). Guys are always quick to make a judgement so they can later say, “Look how right I am; I’ve been saying X since 1998!” Which is why so many people were so quick to call Trubisky a wasted pick–or the second coming, take your pick.

    Why can’t we just say our pieces, and if/when people disagree, leave it at that? Your opinion doesn’t get more correct through repetition and fervor.

    Ultimately, it doesn’t effect me. I’m not pro- or anti-Pace. He’s a GM, and I can’t think of too many GMs in this era that I’d praise. And after being GM for 3 years, I think he hasn’t done anything to get lumped into the pile of crap GMs that litter the league. When I see a “Pace sucks!” or “McCaskey sucks!” or “Ted Phillips is the antichrist” post, I just skip over it. I understand where those opinions come from, I understand the passion, but I don’t need that sort of repetition… because #1 I’m never going to hate something associated with a team I’m a fan of… if I find that much to dislike about a team, my fandom will wither away; and #2 it’s neither new nor convincing.

    So I’ve written a long screed. Sorry. Just sum it up with: I get why you’re pissed, but you’re not going to change anyones’ minds by ratcheting up your anger.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      You’re 100% correct. I filled the board yesterday trying to change the minds of others. It was a waste of time, and it littered the board with tired bullshit. I’m moving on. Time will tell us all we need to know.

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