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Across The Middle: Nagy Was Always Pace’s Guy

| January 10th, 2018


Updated 2018 Bears Coach Power Rankings

#1. Matt Nagy. He was the guy all along.

“That’s who Ryan and this organization wanted to go after. They had a plan for it, they attacked it and they did it so that’s a credit for them for doing that, they were aggressive with it, they believed it, they had conviction and let’s go.”


Yes, Nagy was talking about Ryan Pace’s pursuit of Mitch Trubisky in the quote above but he might as well have been talking about his own pursuit by the Bears GM. The Bears interview schedule only made sense if they had a specific target in mind. Nagy was that target.

The alarm went off inside my head Friday night.

Why did the Bears schedule the first interview they were going to conduct last? (We already knew the Bears were going to meet with Nagy, Josh McDaniels, John DeFilippo and Pat Shurmur.)

Why did the Bears (and only the Bears) interview Vikings defensive coordinator George Edwards completely came out of the blue, when they had already reached out to but not scheduled a meeting with  Panthers DC Steve Wilks to satisfy the Rooney Rule? (They were clearly meeting with a coach who wasn’t nearly as qualified to get the league rule out of the way.)

There was only one reason to meet with Edwards over Wilks: Because Pace wanted to be able to make a hire. And there was only one guy he intended to hire: Matt Nagy.


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McDaniels, Flip and Shurmur were all still going to be in the playoffs, regardless of what happened over the weekend. There was a chance that Nagy wouldn’t be and Pace made sure he was prepared.

And the fact that Colts GM Chris Ballard scheduled an interview with Nagy was telling. Ballard didn’t schedule a guy he already knew to just shoot the shit for a while. He was going to hire him. Nagy confirmed as much when he met the press saying “he understands my decision.” Pace knew it too and knew he had to be ready to pounce if he could.

Really, all signs pointed to Nagy from the start.

  • Shurmur and McDaniels were easily the two most qualified candidates, but neither was a fit based on what we know about Pace and the Bears.
  • Flip just isn’t qualified to be a head coach. As great of a job as he may have done with Carson Wentz, he was just one of three guys coaching him. Coaching one guy is a lot different than coaching 53. I thought it was telling that a guy who worked with him before — Dave Gettleman — never even called to interview him. 

Pace didn’t think he was going to hire Nagy when he fired Fox, which is why he called about Wilks in the first place. It was when he was researching candidates that he knew he’d have to be prepared to make a move if he could. Suddenly, Wilks was out, Edwards was in and the rest is history.

The one thing that stood out to me about Phil Emery’s press conference when he introduced Marc Trestman was that he made it sound like he really wasn’t sure. He said he talked to George McCaskey and Ted Phillips about him and they basically told him it was his decision to make. Then he went with Trestman over Bruce Arians.

The two most important hires Pace has made are his coach and his quarterback. In both cases he showed conviction. If he’s wrong, he’s wrong, but it’s a hell of a lot better than Emery trying to get George and Ted to make the decision for him. Pace gets his guys.

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  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Jeff, AD, Data, and anyone else that wants to chime in.
    If you had a chance to be part of the presser for the Nagy hire, what questions would you have asked Nagy and Pace?

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      How would you compare Mitch Trubisky with a young Alex Smith?

      (I haven’t watched the press conference so I don’t know if this was asked already.)

      • Irish Sweetness

        I would dearly hope that MT is a lot better than a young Alex Smith, who was fucking terrible.

    • BearDown100393

      Who has the ultimate word on player roster?

    • Big Mike

      Explain your process or outline for evaluating the team.

    • “Will you regrow your hair like Urlacher knowing no bald white HC has won a SB since Landry?”

    • Irish Sweetness

      Mr. Pace, why didn’t you interview Steve Wilks?

      Mr. Nagy, what’s your defensive philosophy?

  • Bear Instincts

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/10/sources-darrell-bevell-fired-as-seahawks-offensive-coordinator-after-seven-seasons/
    Sources: Darrell Bevell fired as Seahawks offensive coordinator after seven seasons

    How does the blog feel about Darrell Bevell for OC?

    • DaBearsBlog

      Not happening. The OC is going to be very interesting. If it’s who I’m hearing it will be, verrrrry interesting.

      • EnderWiggin

        Let’s hear it, Blogfather! Say it!!

        • DaBearsBlog

          Also. Former Bears OL coach and current ND OL coach Harry Hiestand is coming back. He’s arguably one of the best OL coaches in the country.

          Vic is done. Will be announced today.

          • BearDown100393

            Yeah.

            He’s going to GB.

          • Bear Instincts
          • BearDown100393

            Vic must be burning bridges now.

          • leftcoastdave

            Jeff, I want to virtue signal you. Saw a great Indie film on PBS called Unrest about CFS/ME which is a must see and a must promote. Check it out, it is worth talking about.

          • Bear Instincts

            Damn. I’m excited and the guy has not even coached his 1st game yet. We have finally come through the other end of the dark tunnel.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            Might suggest that the Bears are going after one of the two Notre Dame linemen in the first round.

          • catfish44

            they’re going to have to spend a high draft choice on an OL sooner or later.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            Are you sleeping with Janhs?

          • DaBearsBlog

            You might want to entertain the idea that Jahns gets shit from me.

          • MoneyMitch10

            Ahhhhhhh, not trying to be an ass but why would you give Jahns information instead of just posting it as your own?

          • MoneyMitch10

            And that’s not me saying you’re lying, just a question is all.

          • DaBearsBlog

            He’s a friend. He has a bigger audience that will reach more fans, quickly. And ultimately, breaking a story doesn’t help me outside of gaining some Twitter followers. Breaking a story helps his career immensely.

          • MoneyMitch10

            Makes sense. This may not be the place for this or you may not care enough to answer but how did ya’ll become friends? Just through interactions professionally? This kinda stuff always interests me.

          • DaBearsBlog

            I sent him a few emails a couple years back. He then showed up at a charity event I was running. It was simple as that.

          • CanadaBear

            You’ve given me shit before Jeff but I just ignored it.

          • BearDown100393

            Beers for Bears

            Got it

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            Can you at least try to take Florio’s spot? that guy has taken the cock and balls out of the game and turned it into Kardashians:The NFL version

          • Shu

            Woah, that could be the best hire of Naggy’s entire staff. Hiestand is the best of the best. Olin Kruetz raves about that guy. This would be a HUGE hire!!!!!

      • leftcoastdave

        That dude ran a crazy nuts offense under Chip Kelly. Wow.

      • evantonio

        I read Chip Kelly offered him a job at UCLA. But that was 5 days ago and he still hasn’t accepted, so maybe this can happen.

        Gary Crowton 2.0?

    • AlbertInTucson

      Well, the easy answer is “Meh, the offense was all Russell Wilson magic.”

      But it wasn’t all Wilson when they still had a viable running game.

      Lynch walked away and the running game went with him.

      Was Bevell in charge of the double-whammy of signing the useless, Eddie Lacy and cutting the , damn useful in Baltimore Alex Collins?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        that should be corrected. It wasn’t all Wilson when they had a decent OLINE that could run and pass block. right now they can’t do either.

        • AlbertInTucson

          They sure miss Max Unger in the middle of that line.

  • BearDown100393

    “The two most important hires Pace has made are his coach and his
    quarterback. In both cases he showed conviction. If he’s wrong, he’s
    wrong, but it’s a hell of a lot better than Emery trying to get George
    and Ted to make the decision for him. Pace gets his guys.”

    Bullseye.

    Veni vidi vici.

    Now go beat Green Bay and compete for the divisional title.

  • leftcoastdave

    I love watching a plan unfold in real time, especially a plan taking years to develop and implement.
    Gee, has Pace got the “vision” thing?

  • leftcoastdave

    Pack sign Pettine to DC position.

    “McCarthy had interest in Chicago Bears defensive coordinator Vic Fangio, but it appears Fangio is going to stick with the Bears.”

    http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2018/01/09/no-sign-packers-being-close-deciding-defensive-coordinator/1017812001/

    • BearDown100393

      “Vic is done” {see below}

      • leftcoastdave

        Meaning his signing back on with the Bears is a done deal.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Fuck.

  • BerwynBomber
    • Bear Instincts

      Go all the way to the bottom of the post. Blogfather says he is not an option because there is a better option

      • BerwynBomber

        My bad. Missed your earlier post about it.

        • Bear Instincts

          It’s all good. These are exciting times

  • leftcoastdave
    • willbest

      Seems like an FU you Andy. He develops you, gets you 5-6 games of play calling experience, and you go poaching his staff for lateral hires?

      • Bear Instincts

        That’s how the dark-side works

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        well it’s not like Toub doesn’t already have a long history with the Bears.

        • willbest

          That is fine, but you don’t go cannibalizing your mentor’s staff if you are going to keep them in the same job they already have.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            yeah….it wouldn’t make sense unless it was a promotion really.

          • Bear Instincts

            Toub for Assistant HC if Fangio does not come back

          • BerwynBomber

            I would think the “under”-staff would be safe. But yeah, coordinators and the like would seem a major a no-go.

      • Bender McLugh

        why not? happens in every industry

    • Bear Instincts

      I will pass on that until Jeff says something

    • Bender McLugh

      now to bring back Gould….right? lol

      • Sactowns#1

        YES!

    • MoneyMitch10

      Erik Lambert is a clown. That dude hasn’t been right about one thing ever. Hell he said the Bears final two coaching candidates were McDaniels and DeFilippo.

      • leftcoastdave

        He’s working his Twit feed and appears to be much better connected.

        • MoneyMitch10

          He’s not. If he lucked out and got this right it’s because he ripped it off from someone else not because he has some source feeding him information.

          • leftcoastdave

            Well then, I guess he must just be the blind squirrel. Thanks for setting that straight.

    • Why would Toub leave KC? Not buying that for one second.

  • Bear Instincts

    Pace spent 3 years building this team to fit the vision/philosophy that Firefox had. How does Coach Nagy’s vision/philosophy compare to Firefox? What are the similarities and differences? What causalities will there be due to differences in vision/philosophy?

    • CaponeBot 1.0

      How so?

      • Bear Instincts

        Whats your questions?

  • catfish44

    my dream staff now is nagy, fangio, and toub. potentially a great group. but, i don’t know if toub is even available. now, have to get the players. edge rusher round one.

    • evantonio

      no OC?

      • catfish44

        just don’t have a favorite.

        • Bear Instincts

          Jeff says former Oregon coach Mark Helfrich

          • evantonio

            He was offered a job at UCLA under Chip Kelly. That was 5 days ago. Still hasn’t accepted. So maybe?

          • catfish44

            and, he wanted difilippo. wrong there.

          • Bear Instincts

            its gaining tracking all over twitter. im guess they all piggy backed off Jeff’s tweet

    • catfish44

      hehehe, just kidding. my real dream staff is between 10 and 11 inches long black and about as round as a tuna can. even better if it is ribbed for my pleasure.

  • Scharfinator

    Man, keep the koolaid flowing boys!

    • leftcoastdave

      There’s a pool full. Just jump in and gulp!

      • SC Dave

        Just don’t jump right back out, or you might get drafted!

    • WP4Life

      Better than No koolaid all year.

  • CanadaBear

    If any of guys like some Rock ‘n Roll with killer piano, check this out. Gene Taylor can really radiate the 88.

  • Bear Instincts

    Who are some good veteran back QB’s that can run the WCO well?

    • Shu

      Greg Gabriel mentioned this on Twitter. Ben Albirght and Matt Miller both pointed to Chase Danield. He’s with Saints but is FA now.

    • I still want Sanchez back. He has a great relationship with Trubisky and it sounds like is a valuable sounding board for him.

      • Can’t we just make him a QB coach and open up that spot?

        I still want a 4rth rd qb lotto ticket to groom behind Trub.

        Never know…Dak, Romo, Cousins…

  • CaponeBot 1.0

    The Rooney Rule discussion is starting to annoy me a great deal.
    I think I’m just a little wary of a rule that states you have to interview a minority for a high level coaching position. If the Bears are looking to hire a playcalling offensive minded coach that they feel can take that next step and be HC they first need to interview a minority coaching candidate whether that coach is what they are looking for or not???? Wilks (D), Edwards (D)
    And all of this happens while other teams are going to go after the same coaching pool. This is the NFL and the spots are incredibly limited, the talent pool is incredibly limited and the stakes are incredibly high.
    It’s fucking insane. We have minorities of all persuasions in positions of power including leader of the free world, fed/state/municipal politics and infrastructure. We have transgender politicians, policies in place to protect the American worker, you name it we’ve facilitated it. It’s good to make sure discrimination doesn’t occur but to force companies in specific industries or specialties to diversify for the sake of diversification and to be forced to do so or to incur penalty is crazy.

    • BearDown100393

      Instead of one candidate it should be 5 first before hiring your retread white head coach.

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        what is your definition of re-tread white coach in this current NFL? Don’t use examples from 15yrs ago……..GO!

        • BearDown100393

          JEFF FISHER

          Any facking rumor of that POS getting a job interview immediately invokes Rooney2.0 interview protocol.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            when did he get an interview?

          • BearDown100393

            RUMOR

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            I don’t work in the rumor game. I’m talking about real examples of being forced to interview a coach that you DON’T WANT because he DOESN’T have skills that you are looking for to run the BILLION dollar organization.

            there is a vast deficiency of minority offensive candidates at the highest levels that even the Fritz Pollard Alliance accepts as fact.

            The NFL is OFFENSIVE. The teams know that offensive minds get poached on the fucking REG. The solution for some teams is to hire a HC that can call plays so they get consistency in their brutal offensive scenarios. LIKE THE BEARS.

          • BearDown100393

            I know well enough that real business is never conducted through the front door.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            I don’t know what that means although it sounds cool.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      Didn’t the league mandate this themselves?

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        The idea was invented after people got pissed that DUngy and Dennis Green were fired. The natural evolution of the game and society saw the uptick in minority coaches in general.
        The world is different than it was 100, 80, 60, 40, 20, 10 and even 5 years ago.

        We’re going along the spectrum in all sorts of societal circumstances and we’re going to slide past the middle point with stupid shit like this.

        • “The world is different than it was 100, 80, 60, 40, 20, 10 and even 5 years ago.”

          It’s not that different. Did you see who’s in the White House?

          Also, the world is diff now precisely because of mandates and checks on corporations and institutions.

          We’re MUCH better off now, but still have a ways to go

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            a lot of mandates and checks are those put on society by the people themselves. The world is plenty different. Just because Trump got elected doesn’t mean that Obama didn’t. The world went through a crazy correction and people don’t always process things in real time like they do when they get to look back a few years in hindsight.
            Trump being elected was unique and hopefully the pendulum doesn’t swing too far back. Just give me a few years of Biden so everyone can just chill the fuck out.

          • BearDown100393

            Oh good.

            We might be around a few years afterward for Uncle Joe.

          • Irish Sweetness

            ?? The USA was better off in the Seventies … man. And that’s like, not my opinion.

            There are NO checks and balances on the banksters. Because Reagan.

    • willbest

      Everybody has the same handicap. But beyond that, I find the Rooney rule the least offensive form of discrimination possible. It simply requires that a team find any minority they want and give them 60 minutes to wow them. Even if they already know who they are going to hire, it still gives a minority a chance to make a pitch and get feedback from one of the 32 people that are in charge of hiring.

      Its not like Pace only has 4 slots available. Nobody Pace wants to talk to got bumped. Some GM’s interview 3 candidates others 14. The burden to the GM is minimal.

    • Isn’t Tomlin a good example of how the rule works?
      He supposedly wasn’t their top target but supposedly blew their socks off.
      Why not give others the chance they otherwise wouldn’t?
      And i say otherwise cuz we all know how the NFL really works:

      NEPOTISM network.

      That’s how fat Ryan in spite of being the worst DC kept getting gigs while guys like Wilks had to get them coffee.

      Nepotism network is entrenched and goes back generations (there’s a Wolf Jr up north waiting his turn while maybe a more qualified GM is pushing papers).

      These guys tend to get first dibs or opportunities they otherwise would NEVER get.

      So to me the Rooney Rule kinda balances that out.

      The league is 70% af am.
      But the coaches are largely not.

      So either you gotta argue that AF Am-minorities simply don’t choose to coach or make good ones, or perhaps there’s something else going on.

      Which is the more likely scenario?

      • willbest

        Part of the reason I am going to talk to a little lombardi is because I will assume there was unofficial mentoring going on.

        If it makes him feel better though I have charted the growth of disadvantage minority groups and by the year 2024 only 137 people will be white, male, heterosexual, and not suffering from a mental illness entitling them to ADA protection.

        • But that’s the thing. This league used to be extremely racist, incase you haven’t heard, so whites got a yuge head start in getting mentored while building networks and infrastructure that still trickle down today. Who owns the Bears again?

          To me, it has little to do with race really.

          In L.A. if I walk into a 7/11, 89.876% chance the guy behind the counter has a turbin and/or long bearded.

          Would be ok with roonie rule there

          *must interview white guy before hiring son/nephew/cousin/friend

          • willbest

            white guy isn’t going to work for $5 cash off books, and he is likely to rat you out to the ER if he has have a workplace accident.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            poor people(no matter race) will work for $5 cash off the books if it meant they could keep getting the government money.

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        Maybe Pete Carroll is a closet sexist.

  • WP4Life

    Matt Nagy’s first hire as #Bears head coach is a big one. He lured offensive line coach Harry Hiestand away from Notre Dame for a second run with the team.
    Brad Briggs

    • Bear Instincts

      links please

      • WP4Life
        • Bear Instincts

          The new Bears coach is expected to lure assistant Harry Hiestand from Notre Dame for a second run at Halas Hall

          expected is not the same as officially but i will take it

          • WP4Life

            You don’t have to take anything.

            I personally take BB would not put in print if not done.

          • Bear Instincts

            I trust Jeff more than I trust Biggs

          • WP4Life

            I agree. check jeffs twitter:
            I would have loved to give you all Harry Hiestand’s name at 9 AM but I promised someone I wouldn’t and that’s WAY more important to me than “source cred”.

          • Bear Instincts

            thanks. didn’t see that

    • Oh, so it’s official. Hiestand on board?

      He’s supposedly good.

      HOWEVER…

      Wasn’t our current Oline staff pretty good?

      Leno became a thing (remember, he could have easily gone full-Webb).
      We seem to plug in OGs without missing much of a beat (Slausen-Kush-Larsen…)
      Massie is decent.

      Considering the talent we had and having to shuffle, I think they did ok.
      If Sitton and Long had remained healthy, they may have been dominate.

      Hope they’re not making a change just to make a change. That’s how we end up with Joe DeCamillis instead of Toub.

      • Their OL coach who had been with Fox for over a decade (Magazu), left last offseason. He was replaced by Jeremiah Washburn, and I think we saw a drop in performance this year.

        Hiestand has consistently developed top OL at ND and was very good when he was with the Bears too. He is widely regarded as one of the best OL coaches at any level in the sport.

        • Yeah but did we see a drop because of Oline or because of Glennon-rook QB, and having to play scrubs like Grasu-Compton ? (Howard and Benny were also hurt part of the season, not to mention run run pass)

          I’m not against the new oline guy.

          I just hope they’re doing it not just to get “their” guy in.

          • CanadaBear

            I thought the OL play dropped way off from last year and not just because of injuries.

          • Might be right, Canada.
            But Grasu-Compton-Sowell – Statue Glennon.
            The BRUTAL predictable playcaling

            Hard to tell the forest from the trees, though I’m willing to take a shot at a hot Oline coach

            Bonus is he could give us the low down on the new crop for the draft (could be esp helpful if we go OT).

          • CanadaBear

            Yeah, it’s not like I’m some OL expert.

          • Neither am I, mostly because I’m not gonna spend hours on the all-22 watching them as a group and individually.

            I do know a suck ass linemen when I see one though (webb/grasu).

            But beyond that, kinda have to trust the “experts”. Then again, these were the same experts who kept telling me Tice was a great Oline coach, while I kept scratching my head every week as Cutler was getting destroyed.

          • They’re grabbing one of the most respected guys in the game, and their old OL coach had already signed, so they needed a new one.

            This guy is very well qualified, so it’s not like Nagy is grabbing some assistant from KC just because it’s his guy.

          • leftcoastdave

            Getting a guy to join a fresh start team as opposed to someone willing to sign on to a staff likely to be leaving is night and day. Hiestand is first class and will likely even take the roller skates off of Grassu.

      • Tortured Bear fan

        Connor Williams comes to my mind…..

  • BerwynBomber

    Chargers are expected to retain Gus Bradley (DC) per Rapoport.

    • Bear Instincts

      Fangio is still trying to hustle more money out of Pace

  • BearDown100393

    Geezus Vic are you hurting that bad for cash or is it the butt hurt from getting passed over?

    Either get in the boat or jump off already.

    • Bear Instincts

      both???

    • BerwynBomber

      Could be working on the contract as we type. Everyone is reporting the deal is all but done.

      But if we see a report if he is interviewing with another team or the Bears are interviewing another DC candidate …

      • BearDown100393

        Does seem conflicting.

        Would rather see this sewn up one or another and move on to 2018 season.

        Candidates are going to be locked up sooner rather than later.

  • CanadaBear

    I try not to bitch about the Chicago sportswriters too much but JD is just plain incompetent. He has a story about the Bears most recent draft and fails to mention Eddie Jackson even once. He played every game and was the best FS the Bears have had in years and no mention. FFS, ESPN, I could do a better job than that smug blowhard.

    • CaponeBot 1.0

      agreed, it’s tough to sit through

    • It’s rare for me to read those guys anymore.

      I really only read stuff that’s vetted through the regs here.

      From time to time I’ll read a Moon or Biggs piece on my own.

    • willbest

      JD was probably being fueled by his hatred of Cutler, and when he left, JD lost interest in the Bears.

  • evantonio

    “I would have loved to give you all Harry Hiestand’s name at 9 AM but I promised someone I wouldn’t and that’s WAY more important to me than “source cred”.”

    But he gave us the name this morning. Jeff loves us more than his Twitter followers!

    • He better.
      We put up with the fucking Gnomes for yrs.

      • SC Dave

        What he said!

        • leftcoastdave

          Hey, we are where he gets his real education.

      • That Guy

        Ugh. Don’t remind me of that old system. One person leaves an html tag open and every comment after it got fucked up.

        • Haha. Remember that shit? If someone forgot to close italics or bold it would look like this the whole thread down

        • Irish Sweetness

          That was the best!

      • BearDown100393

        Jeff hates you.

        Don’t take it personal.

        He hates everyone on here.

        But he loves facking Twitter twats.

    • BearDown100393

      Twitter ruined the nation.

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        Ray J ruined the nation.

        • BearDown100393

          So did LaVar.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            New Reality Show:
            Ray J
            One of Trestmans daughters
            Lavar Ball
            Mike Florio and a computer with wifi connection
            The AI robot that wants to kill us
            Susan Sarandon
            Andy Dick
            Joe Rogan
            Strom Thurmond’s Ghost
            All living in a house, filmed 24-7 in Budapest and tasked with starting their own taco truck business.

          • Throw in Alex Jones and Andy Dick, and let’s roll!

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            can’t have Rosie because then she’ll make it all about her and not working to get the taco truck off the ground and then we get cancelled.

          • BearDown100393

            Can’t have Rosie in a taco truck because there would be no tacos left to sell.

          • How about one of those hags from “The View”?

            Pick one.

            Also, we might need a gay in there for the rainbow Roonie rule,

            I nominate…Kevin Spacy.

          • BearDown100393

            The “hags” are the taco meat.

          • leftcoastdave

            Don’t know how much demand there would be for Rosie’s Taco.

          • BearDown100393

            When in Budapest…

          • Irish Sweetness

            Or a Queer. You can say Queer. Again.

  • Bevel as OC really interests me.

    But SEA is a bit of a mystery.

    Outside Bill, Petey has most power of any HC (maybe Reid).

    Petey comes from the D side, but I bet he has his fingers on everything.

    Wilson has become an elite QB. No one can really debate that.

    Was that not under Bevel’s watch?

    Wilson also isn’t a traditional drop-back, but would fit more with the Trub mold of running when necessary.

    Bevel has tons of experience, including playoffs and SB. He knows what it takes to prepare and win at highest level.

    OTH, SEA Oline is perennially shit. Wilson always has to run for his life. Their run game went to shit, and for some reason, they released Collins (who I always liked – FF champ!).

    They’re not exactly a prolific O.

    But how much of that personnel blunder was on Petey, and how much on Bev?

    Doug Baldwin is a Bev believer and made some interesting remarks.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/10/firing-bevell-could-make-things-even-more-interesting-in-seattle/

    Don’t know what it all means, but Bev may be a good complement to Nagy who’s gonna be the guy calling the plays anyways.

    • BearDown100393

      How does one “coach” Russell Wilson?

      • For all we know, Wilson turns into a Cousins level QB without Bev.

        Never know.

        (See, Fisher – Goff)

      • Irish Sweetness

        How do they coach anyone?

        Did Ditka coach McMahon? Not a bit of it.

  • leftcoastdave

    ICYMI, (posted this morning) still waiting to see this happening:

    “The OC is going to be very interesting. If it’s who I’m hearing it will be, verrrrry interesting.
    Former Oregon coach Mark Helfrich.”

    • Bear Instincts

      They are talking money right now

      • leftcoastdave

        Let’s hope. This guy had the wildest and craziest wide open game out there. Temper that with Nagy calling the plays and that can be most fun to see.

        • Bear Instincts

          If he sings on FA is going to be a lot of fun

          • evantonio

            Maybe Megatron comes out of retirement to be that vet presence we need?

          • I wish, but I think Det still owes his rights.

          • willbest

            He would still owe the Lions 2 or 3 years I think.

          • evantonio

            Oh. Well. Forget that.

  • CaponeBot 1.0

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/m/8d8c40bf-c899-3ada-8309-a751beef4b1d/ss_floyd-mayweather-confuses.html

    haha, Floyd Mayweather confuses meaning of ‘Me Too’ movement, says he ‘too’ has private jets and billions of dollars

    • BearDown100393

      The man knows how to box and make $.

      The man knows nothing more.

      • Tortured Bear fan

        and smash mouths

      • Irish Sweetness

        What’s to know? He’s got the two most important things in life down pat.

    • He is illterate, right?

      So may “me too” to him might look like “0hf&9 2”

      • willbest

        I generally don’t expect a lot of profound thinking and awareness from somebody that takes a lot of hits to the head.

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          …he’s actually known as being the best at avoiding or blocking hits.

          (just saying)

          • willbest

            And what percent of the population would you imagine has taken more hits to the head than Mayweather?

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            good point.

            Whatever percent of the population were quarterbacks coached by Mike Martz.

    • willbest

      Considering what the # used to be called, I find the phrase #MeToo highly ironic.

      • leftcoastdave

        Number Me Too, or
        Tic Tac Toe Me Too?

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Pound.

  • “Hiestand was the Bears line coach from 2005-2009, and was most recently at Notre Dame.’

    Weren’t those the yrs Cutler was getting concussed every 10 plays?

    Well, let’s hope he’s learned for Trub’s sake.

    • willbest

      2009 was Cutler’s first year with the Bears. 2005-2009 were the Ron Turner years.

      • Ah, the dynamic Turner yrs.

        Well, he comes highly regarded, which is as much as a casual fan can ask for I suppose.

        • willbest

          On the plus side his o-line got Kizer drafted in the second round.

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        ah, yes, 2009, the year John Tait fucking retired heading into the season and we brought in Frank Omiyale. God damnit.

        • Bear Instincts

          how many times have players retired on us and messed up the whole season

        • I thought I would go a Hump day without an Omelette drop.

          I was wrong.

  • BearDown100393
    • leftcoastdave

      His mother’s?

      • BearDown100393

        The rest of the NFCN.

    • willbest

      You know who else was a camp body. Meredith.

      • leftcoastdave

        I love to see those guys fighting to prove themselves after being dismissed first time around. Has he started clerking at Hy V yet?

      • BearDown100393

        Those 4 TD footballs in Canton.

        • willbest

          Bears players with more receiving yards than Meredith over the last 3 years: Alshon Jeffery, Zach Miller.

          • BearDown100393

            That screams volumes about the position.

      • leftcoastdave

        Langford is now signed to a futures deal with the Jets.

        • Bear Instincts

          Jets love our leftovers…Forte, Marshall, Thomas Jones, Joe
          Anderson, Kellen Davis, Jarvis Jenkins

          • leftcoastdave

            When they trade to get Glennon we’ll all be happy.

          • Bear Instincts

            What he said!

          • leftcoastdave

            Hey, it’s Kool Aid day. We can all dream, can’t we? We’d all take a second wouldn’t we?

          • CanadaBear

            Ain’t nobody taking on that contract. Released for sure.

          • BearDown100393

            Giraffe will leave as he arrived.

            Alone.

          • They won as many games with our leftovers (dont’ forget McCown) as we did with our starters

    • Hiring Trestman was genius. We got Alloutte dibs now.

  • CaponeBot 1.0

    I was just thinking about Gruden.
    I simply cannot see this working out.

    • Bear Instincts

      Make space on that wagon for me

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      I’m curious to see

      I’d not make that hire. That part I’m sure of.

    • Irish Sweetness

      But everyone’s cool with Nagy?

      Gruden has what, two rings?

  • CaponeBot 1.0

    have you seen the line on the Philly Falcons game? Does vegas remember that Nick Foles is the QB? Holy shit, a 100.00 bet pays 60.00 for Atlanta on the moneyline straight up for the win.
    That’s a 60% rate of return to bet against Nick Foles????? What am I missing here?

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      It’s a home game?

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        how is the payout so good?

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Curious. What’s the moneyline on Philly?

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            Falcons 1.625

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            I found what I was looking for. Perhaps I’m phrasing it wrong. Been a long time since I bet the games. I’m seeing Falcons favored at about -150 depending and on the source and Eagles at about +130.

            I hate taking a team in what’s essentially a two horse race at those odds. Nick Foles or not.

            I gave this shit up years ago though. The NFL is a fickle mistress.

            On the face of it, doesn’t look like the Falcons should lose this game. But risking $100 to win $50, sucks. Might as well hit the OTB. Hammer the 3-1 shots all day at Pimlico or Mountaineer, or some other such shit hole, in the shitty claiming races. Look for the rainy day specials. The ones that love the mud. Slop freaks. Fucks the wagering all up. Boxcars.

            Johnnywad’s school of gambling 101.

          • Mother a mudder?

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Zackly

          • CanadaBear

            I had no idea you had that degenerate gambler gene! Good for you to give it up. That’s a toughie.

            I worked in casinos for a couple of years. My favorite story to tell about degenerate gamblers; I’m working the floor in a slot area. This old lady (easily in her 70’s) keels over off the stool and breaks her collarbone. She’s in shock, throws up a couple of times and is trying to shake it off. Obviously a tough old bird. While I’m squatting down dealing with this lady (while security gets an ambulance), I look up and her husband comes around from the opposite bank of machines, looks down at his wife (he had to have heard the commotion at the very least) and me taking care of her. Doesn’t say shit, barely even looked at us and starts playing her credits. At some point the daughter shows up (she was in another slot area) and takes over caring for her mother. The ambulance shows up, the old bird doesn’t want to go but there’s no way she isn’t. The daughter put her in the ambulance, comes back and says a couple of pointed things to her father who shrugs and keeps right on playing his wife’s credits.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Yikes. That’s awful. I’ve seen some pretty rough customers over the years either at the horse track or the casino. Tough life for some.

            I once saw a couple in their early twenties playing blackjack. She’s about 7 months pregnant. Both smoking, both getting their asses handed to them. She runs out of chips first, then him. Then they’re arguing over the $20 they left in the console of the car for gas. As it gets more heated, she finally relents and heads to the car just as the pit boss made his way over. Out they both went. Made everybody uncomfortable.

            I used to really love the horses. Never spent a ton gambling but I did travel and spend money that way. I’ve been to the Preakness and Kentucky Derby. The Bluegrass Stakes at Keeneland, the Breeders Cup at Santa Anita, the Travers Stakes at Saratoga Springs, (my favorite). Tons of places.

            I’ve never gotten in over my head, always set a reasonable limit and lived by it. I’ve spent way more on travel expenses to get there than actually gambling. It’s a great time.

            Then I had kids. It’s been all about them ever since. But I’ve got a senior and sophomore now. And when they’re gone, I’ll be back. I love it.

          • CanadaBear

            Yeah, I always say if it’s still fun, it’s not an issue. I hear ya about spending more on entertainment and travel than actually gambling.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            Lol, “I’ll be back”.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Bookies are magicians. They’ll sell the lesser team as the favorite. Successfully.

        • The terrible Titans won at KC.

          Remember the algorithms, Caponebot.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            arrrgggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Foles has been doing his best Glennon impression late season though.

            I think Vegas trusts Pederson and that opportunistic D at home more than the Falcons who tend to choke vs real teams.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            but won’t Ice and Julio have the team ready for a chance to win it all this year? won’t they just will themselves to victory?

          • Haha I see the hamsters in your brain running over time to bet on the Falcons.

            There’s def the “revenge” motivation after getting embarrassed last SB in the ultimate choke job.

            And the Falcons were well coached last week, albeit against greenhorns.

            I don’t really see them losing either.

            I could also see Pederson out Billichicking the Falcons, and Foles looking like Keenum with Ertz, Alshon and their trio of HBs, while their D a la SB saints keeps getting TOs whlle the crowd goes crazy and Ice Freezes and Julio limps in and out of lineup like always.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Foles is not as terrible as he looked filling in for Wentz. That bye week and lots of extra reps will go a long way toward making him somewhat serviceable.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            Well shit….

        • Irish Sweetness

          ?? They’re favorites to win. But they won’t win. Vegas will. Because they’re geniuses.

    • willbest

      Lets see Saturday afternoon in Philly is supposed to be sunny with a high around 55 and 10-15 mph winds.

      I don’t see how the Falcons lose this one.

      • You are enabling CaponeBot.

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        the Falcons play like ass in the open fresh air though.

        If this was in Atlanta I would put my soon to be newborn up as collateral on the dark web to a Yemeni “prince” so I could bet the game…..alas, it is not so baby to be named later is safe.

        • willbest

          But it isn’t some sort of -20 degree, snow fueled bomb cyclone

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            vic Beasley will be playing with a winter coat on.

          • willbest

            I think we can agree that the Rams are a better team, and we know the Falcons just beat them 26-13 outside in 60 degree weather, with a 3 hour time zone change.

            So really the only advantage that the Eagles have is they are better rested. Which sometimes looks rusty.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            sold. Falcons it is.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Eagles have the better D. They can run it. Foles isn’t that bad. Eagles have this.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            Sold. Eagles it is.

        • AlbertInTucson

          It was “open, fresh air” last week in L.A.

          They sure put the clamps on Todd Gurley.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            Noted…..

        • CanadaBear

          You really are trying to be the Father of your country! Whenever Mrs Waffle is up for canonization, I’d like to be informed.

        • Irish Sweetness

          They’ll get their asses kicked …

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            We shall see sir

    • Irish Sweetness

      That the Eagles are going to win?

      See Nick throw four TDs the other week?

  • Bear Instincts

    https://twitter.com/bcondotta/status/951205966057320448

    I can report that the Seahawks have fired offensive line coach Tom
    Cable. Will be let go along with Darrell Bevell as the Seahawks look to
    completely revamp their offensive coaching staff.

    anyone interested in tom cables talents?

    • Their Oline was garbage.

      But I don’t know who’s fault is that.

      The GM’s, Petey’s, or Cable’s

      Maybe all 3.

      • AlbertInTucson

        That line crumbled when they traded Max Unger to the Saints for Jimmy Graham.

        The Seahawks miss Unger more than the Saints miss Graham.

        • CanadaBear

          Graham certainly was more effective in NO.

    • BearDown100393

      Tom Cable is the missing Ryan brother.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Absolutely. Can’t harm.

  • CaponeBot 1.0

    GP, I know you are lurking. What are we thinking about TRON as a purely speculative cypto play.
    1,2,3……Go!

    • evantonio

      Bought in at 4 cents. YeeHaw!

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        I’m jumping in on this one as it’s in a dip…..and as we know, you always buy the fucking dip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • evantonio

          I’m in the same boat with Ripple, but waiting for it to dip a bit more. Bought in at 2.40, thinking it was climbing climbing climbing. Whoops.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            I like that the Tron dude is somehow in with Jack Ma. Let’s see how the next few years play out. Turn 1k into 12k.
            Ripple is also cool because it’s ultra low cost on a transactional level.

            Just having a bit of fun with it. It’s better than betting on Bortles.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            Which platform did you buy Tron through?

          • evantonio

            I use Binance for altcoins. They don’t accept fiat, so need to transfer either ether or bitcoin over from GDAX.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Euthereum is the one to be on. That’s built to last. I may have mentioned it on here a few weeks ago. Trebled in price since.

      Alas, I am poor.

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        Irish, why don’t you do computer shit for the Thai govt or something.

        • Irish Sweetness

          They make nothing. And it’s against the law to do a job that a Thai national can do.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            Maybe get the fuck out of there man.

  • New Thread.

  • That Guy

    Early Bears mock draft, because why not…

    1 – Bradley Chubb, DE or Quenton Nelson, G (Best linemen on either side of the ball. Top DE will likely be gone, but Nelson should be there for us).
    2 – Sam Hubbard, DE or Equanimeous St. Brown, WR (gotta have a DE by now even if means a trade up, but if we get Chubb in Round 1, we can target WR here).
    3 – Simmie Cobbs, Jr., WR or Andre Dillard, OT (Choosing a player to complete the DE/OL/WR trifecta)

    Up to here is boring. These are obvious needs are positions that Pace will clearly target. Plus, the draft stock is so fluid right now, all kinds of players will rise and fall. Here’s where I think Pace could do some damage though:

    4 – Luke Falk, QB (I think Nagy will like a 3 QB room with Trubs, Sanchez and another rookie like Falk; per Walter, Falk draws comparisons to Cousins, another 4th round late bloomer)
    5 – Michael Joseph, CB (DIII player with a ton of upside, totally Pace’s profile)
    6 – Eddy Pineiro, K (kid has a monster leg and good accuracy; probably the best in the draft)
    7 – Antonio Callaway, WR (first round talent with a ton of off-field issues; would Pace take a chance he can get his life together and float a 7th rounder?)

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