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Turn the Beat Around: A Trubisky Dinner, Kyle Long on the Move & More!

| May 23rd, 2017

The Chapel Hill Story

An excerpt from Dan Wiederer’s magnificent piece in the Trib:

As Pace does with all such get-to-know-you dinners, he asked Trubisky to pick the restaurant and make the reservation. It’s a minor request. But it often can be revealing of a player’s reliability.

Pace also ordered Trubisky to keep the meeting top secret, so as not to tip off anyone — not any Tar Heels coaches or teammates, not any other NFL execs or agents, not even a campus meter maid — to the Bears’ interest.

Trubisky took the directive and pieced things together.

Before Pace and his cohorts arrived on campus, the Bears GM had a text. Dinner at 7 p.m.

The venue: Bin 54, a top steakhouse in North Carolina’s Triangle region. And to keep the gathering covert, Trubisky made the reservation for six under an alias: James McMahon.

“I thought that was cool,” Pace says.

Read the entire article. It is the best work Dan has done since coming to Chicago.

Kyle Long on the Move?

Brad Biggs was first to report the Bears intend to shift Kyle Long from right to left guard, as one of the team’s few offensive stars rebounds from injuries. The positional move leaves little to be discussed. Right guard, left guard, who really gives a shit? But it was one paragraph in the piece that stood out to me:

The complicating factor is that Long is still rehabilitating from the grisly right ankle injury he suffered Nov. 13 in a loss to the Buccaneers. So it’s not like he’s expected to be on the field when the Bears line up for the beginning of organized team activities Monday at Halas Hall. The hope is Long will be in action before the start of the season, but when he’ll be ready to practice remains to be seen and general manager Ryan Pace and coach John Fox have been extra evasive in discussing timelines for any of the injured veterans.

When I see a sentence that involves the word “hope” paired with the phrase “start of the season”…my antenna goes up. The same sentiments were being expressed a year ago when it came to Kyle Fuller. It’ll be impossible to form an accurate prognosis on Long until early August but it’s not looking positive in late May. (Sidenote: Long is the team’s toughest SOB. He’ll be out there.)

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  • SC Dave

    They should leave Long in his first position. Assuming he can still play it, that is.

    • Bender McLugh

      Ideally I’m with you, but I disagree. He’s versatile and if the coaches determine he’s best used on the left side for the line to be most effective then so be it. Sitton to replace him, right? That’s not much of a drop off, if at all.

      • Big Mike

        Switching sides is really difficult for some players. Harder than the switch from G to T. Much harder than learning to write with your opposite hands. Every angle, every step, every punch is different.

        • SC Dave

          I was going to mention that the positions are not at all the same, but I expected you to come in with expert opinion on the matter, which confirms my suspicions.

          Also, how much difference does it make for a guard to be on the strong side rather than weak side of the formation? I suspect that is likewise of significance.

          • Big Mike

            In a zone scheme, the strong and weak side don’t make as much difference, your pressing a block, releasing to the next man trying to create a cut back seam or get some movement. Where it does matter is when a QB is under center, the back side guard pulls more often. That means that on a right handed team the LG pulls more often, so speed and the ability to block in space, block smaller quicker guys is imperative.

            The right/left handed nature of a team is dictated by the QB’s throwing hand. The reason is both footwork and the quick/short passing game out of a 3 or 5 step drop.

          • That’s what strikes me a bit odd for Long as LG.

            I get that theoretically he’ll put less pressure on his shoulder cuz Whitehair will be helping him, but Long is built like an LT, 6’6 lanky.

            He’s got great feet for a big man, but seems like the shorter (6’3) quicker guys would excel more at LG.

            Are we a pure zone team a la Shannahons? Seems like we mix and match but hard to tell.

          • Big Mike

            I don’t really think any team can afford to run a pure zone scheme the way Shannahan once did. He had a run with it that let him have 1000+ yard rushers every year, no batter who he put at RB. Like everything defenses caught up, his personnel changed and the scheme became less effective. The key was the intelligence and speed of his OL. Once defenses caught on, defensive schemes and assignments were create to read and beat the the Zone Blocking scheme. The use of Zone blocking techniques carried over. As a change up, or to set up a power blocking scheme, Zone Blocking Techniques can produce huge running plays.

            Long has the athleticism to play RT. His arms aren’t long enough, his feet aren’t quick enough and he has the wrong mentality for LT. When he played RT a speed rush and rip move would beat his ass, nearly every time if Long didn’t get his hands into the defender right out of the gate. When teams figured that out, in an obvious passing situation, you’d see them line up their “Clay Matthews” drone and line them up outside Long. Or they”d use base personnel and go with a wide 9.

          • Yeah, and they illlegalized the chop block/cut back block too, which handicapped the pure zone blockers more (lots of defenders thought that was a dirty block).

        • CanadaBear

          I read Sitton used to be a RG. I think the move is being done because Kyle never had the shoulder labrum surgery and it will be less of an issue at LG.

          • Big Mike

            It won’t hide the fact that his right shoulder has a torn labrum. But all things being equal (and they aren’t, but guys that make it to the NFL are amazing football players), his effectiveness on the left side would be improved. Consider footwork and which way you are more likely to be trying to turn the DT, LB etc. More often than not, trying to turn him inside. On a pull, you’re trying to cover the man, most dangerous defender is someone who knifes under the block. When the LG pulls, that man is on his left. When the pulling guard is trying to kick out, it’s more about footwork than the punch.

          • Another Bear 1st RDer injured. Part of our illustrious tradition.

            I mentioned this in the previous thread, but LGs aren’t typically 1st rounders. They tend to be the suckiest OLinemen, in fact, where linemen go if they wash out at other positions.

            Passing up on Eifert maybe not looking as smart. Then again, he’s had inj issues too (and Floyd I think is retired).

          • willbest

            The $$$ doesn’t seem to indicate that. The top 10 RG’s average 8.5 million per year. The top 10 LG’s average 8.4 million. So basically the same. But then if you look at the 20th highest paid LG he is making 2.7 million, where the 20th best paid RG is making 1.6 million.

            If LGs were really the tossaway position then you would think they would make substantially less.

          • But I wonder how much of that is because when RGs (or LT/RTs) wash out (after getting paid) they switch to LG.

            For instance, Long got paid for being a RG. Sitton was also seen as a PB RG but played as LG for us.

            So in other words WE are paying 2 out the top 10 LGs

            https://www.si.com/nfl/2016/07/13/nfl-position-rankings-guards-marshal-yanda-trai-turner

            And needless to say, the rook wage scale can throw off the $ (like Zach Martin) much like FAs (like Sitton) always getting more.

            Marshal Yanda is considered perhaps the best RG, and he landed a 5 yr $40M deal.

            Osemele and Gabe Jackson are considered good, but the Raiders made it a point to upgrade their protection across the line. In other words, sometimes paying LGs is more team specific than an overall NFL trend.

            Pace came from the Saints where they valued OGs, so that’s why we’re paying them. But a lot of the league doesn’t value them (LGs) as much as us or the Saints.

            Another way to see their value is where most RGs got drafted.

            I would wager that most got drafted more highly than LGs (who didn’t wash out from other positions).

            1. Long was considered our best RG, so that’s where he was initially put and paid
            2. Long is now injured, so now he’s moved to LG, which logic dictates is easier and less strenuous on his health, and where his weaknesses can be minimized
            3. Most rooks are started off at LG to get their training wheels (like Landon Collins).

          • willbest

            Why specifically is LG easier though? shouldn’t it depend on who your tackle is? What your opponents D line is like? Which side the TE is on, what you are being asked to block and how, etc.

          • It always depends on team specific schemes. Like I pointed out how the Saints have valued keeping the inside clean They train their OTs to “funnel out” the rushers so Brees can step up and throw between the lanes (we did that with Bushrod too).

            But it’s a rule of thumb that LG-C work together to block the NT (or the bigger DT) while the RG goes against the more disruptive DTs like Suh or Aaron Donald.

            Makes sense. As a DC, you want your best DT isolated one-on-one instead of ramming him into the LG-C combo.

            However, that doesn’t mean that EVERY play the LG-C work together. Obviously OCs mix it up, and DCs have to counter, but generally a team’s best OG is the RG who can handle the Suh types one-on-one (which is prolly why Emery even drafted Long to begin with).

            But the Bears (like the Saints) put more of a premium on the interior than perhaps other teams who normally just plug in a body at LG and roll with that.

            (I’ll repast this from last thread)

            “starting” LGs in NFCN

            Puke. Taylor Lane. UFDA
            Queens. Alex Boone. UFDA
            Lions. Glasgow Graham. 3rd (95th compensatory pick).

            Extended coverage.

            Pats. Joe Thuney 3rd (76th overall)
            Falcons. Andy Levitre. 2nd (51st overall) but bounced from Bills, to Titans, now ATL

          • Irish Sweetness

            I can’t believe this is even being discussed. The reason given for RG being different or whatever, is negated by running the play in the other direction.

            The Center will make calls hanging up protections in an instant.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Wasn’t Sitton a RG on the Packers?

    • willbest

      I am convinced its to reduce wear and tear on his right side. I hope it doesn’t result in him fucking up his left side too.

  • CanadaBear

    Bears luck. Kyle still hasn’t had the shoulder labrum surgery. I’m guessing that will be next off season or whenever he goes on IR this year. FUCK!

    • BearDown100393

      Do the Bears get a Kyle of old or an old Kyle from now on?

      • CanadaBear

        I’m afraid the latter.

        • Irish Sweetness

          He should be benched if he’s not fit to give 100%.

    • I don’t get why they just don’t do it now?

      Cuz he’s still recovering from the ankle? Don’t know how one would affect the other.

      • willbest

        I suspect he was told that the rehab journey on doing them both simultaneously would be substantially more extensive and he would almost certainly miss playing time.

        • Ugh. Typical Bears. String him along, everything’s “fine’ then boom, he’s on IR one day.

          That’s what’s gonna happen to Long.

          Don’t know how a linemen can play with a torn labrum.

          • SC Dave

            Just IR him now to free up the roster spot.

      • CanadaBear

        I saw pics of him the other day and he’s back over 300. Said he was aiming for 330. Looked pretty buff but who knows how bad the ankle and labrum are?

  • CanadaBear

    I was just reading an article about Megatron not being happy about the way he was treated when he retired. Not sure if it’s because he had to pay some bonus money back. He isn’t saying. Loins fans in the comments go on a rant about Megatron and Barry Sanders being quitters. FFS, how much pain and suffering must an athlete endure to keep the Loins fans happy? I guess it isn’t just the Bears fans that tear down their team’s best players after they move on/retire.

    • Scharfinator

      How long did CJ play too? Seems like he had a pretty long career for those shit bags in Detroit. Pretty ungrateful fans.

      • CanadaBear

        Megatron played 9 years and Sanders 10. I can remember the Loins fans being ungrateful and irate when Barry retired. I get the disappointment but 10 years at RB is a lifetime and if you’ve lost some motivation, it’s over. Loins fans might just be the worst. I used to think it was BiQueens fans but after the Loins got into the playoffs their fans went completely nuts.

        • BearDown100393

          The stadium should be named after Barry Sanders. Detroit embarrasses itself again.

          • SC Dave

            No, it shouldn’t.

          • Sactowns#1

            Loved the Oakland Athletics naming their field Rickey Henderson field. Best leadoff man of all time.

          • haha, they did? That’s awesome.

            Dude was spry.

          • BearDown100393

            Nobody loved Rickey more than Rickey.

        • Worse still is that Stafford seems to have turned the corner w Cooter

    • beninnorcal

      How much pain and suffering do they want from their players? As much pain as they endure as Loins fans. But it is a choice. And I agree with you, anyway. They’re a miserable breed (this coming from a Bear fan).

    • BearDown100393

      I guess fans tearing down their best players only proves the point made by both Sanders and Johnson.

    • It’s the NFCN where legends get unceremoniously booted. Favre, Urlacher, Megatron, AP…

  • AlbertInTucson

    Happy trails, Roger Moore.

    • CanadaBear

      Nothing against the guy but he was crappy in Maverick (always preferred the James Garner episodes) and he killed the Bond series for me.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Total agreement. I never watched “THE SAINT”, either.

        • CanadaBear

          I watched it some. I actually liked that better than his Bond movies.

          • AlbertInTucson

            In his defense, the producers are as much to blame for the fall-off of the Bond franchise after Connery. The overall tone of the scripts just got way too flippant.

          • CanadaBear

            Totally agree. It was just a little too campy. Not sure why they went that route.

          • AlbertInTucson

            The older I get, the more I appreciate DR. NO and FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE. Minimalist gadgetry.

          • CanadaBear

            I loved the Aston Martin as a kid. The rest of the stuff, not so much.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Yes, the Aston Martin was the Zenith of the Bond Gadgets.

            Lots of lovely “Bond Girls”, too, but none lovlier than “Golden Girl”, Shirley Eaton.

          • CanadaBear

            Total Babe! Jill St. John and Halle Berry were no slouches, either.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “A wealth of riches.”

          • Bender McLugh

            I liked the underwater breathing pen thing, that was awesome and of course I wanted one.

          • I have to throw my hat in the ring for Caterina Murino [from Casino Royale]. Deum

            https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/8c/d1/93/8cd193973c6dbeaec94c15ea1ef5e123.jpg

          • CanadaBear

            Eva Green is really severe looking until you see her naked. Saw her naked a ton (full frontal) in The Dreamers. Movie was artsy fartsy OK but the nudity was on point. Fabulous real boobs.

          • BearDown100393

            Cocaine

      • Bender McLugh

        I liked him as Bond alot when I was a kid, but he wasn’t as good as Connery. How can you hate the Bond who starred in Octopussy?!?

        • CanadaBear

          I was brought up on Connery so Moore seemed wimpy and a little too tongue in cheek for me. Although, I watched parts of Thunderball with the sound down the other day (working out) and that underwater fight scene was ridiculous. Went on forever and was just silly.

          • Bender McLugh

            I mean, Moonraker?? great stuff

          • CanadaBear

            TBH, after the first two or three with Moore, I didn’t watch again until Daniel Craig.

          • Bender McLugh

            you wanna see campy check out any of Pierce’s stint……yeesh

          • CanadaBear

            I can only imagine. Casino Royale with David Niven was a real stinker. No doubt PB’s stint wasn’t great (even though I’ve never seen one, I’m having no problem imagining them to be horrible).

          • Bender McLugh

            Remington Steel was so much better

          • AlbertInTucson

            Liked Remington Steele.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I don’t even consider the Niven Casino Royale a Bond movie.

          • BearDown100393

            You did not miss anything.

          • Bender McLugh

            weren’t you listening? He missed Moonraker, and therefore missed ALOT.

          • BearDown100393

            Uh yeah.

  • willbest

    “I hated Glennon signing. Until I saw terms of the deal. And if the choice of starter was Glennon or Hoyer, well, I’ve seen enough Hoyer.” – Jeff

    See I didn’t mind the Glennon signing until we committed 18 million to him. Sure we have cap, but we could spend that on something useful. Cap rolls over. It seems silly to just spend it for the sake of spending it.

    Is Glennon a better option than Hoyer? Sure his stats only indicate career backup rather than confirm it. Gambling that he was on a bad team with a bad OC, and wasn’t given a proper shake vs. McCown and then hosed when Winston showed up it reasonable. But the difference between Hoyer and Glennon was $12 million. You can get a mid range WR#1 for that kind of coin.

    • beninnorcal

      I still have this strange suspicion that we’re all going to be pleasantly suprised by Glennon and that Mitch never see’s the field this year. This would be a best-case scenario, and at season’s end, maybe we can get a few of our picks back that we traded away for the rook.
      This IS the Bears though, and I’m most likely wrong. Fun to dream though.

    • But how much is it worth to NOT David Carr our new franchise QB?

      Sure, we could’ve rolled with Hoyer, but maybe Pace concluded that Glennon could succeed more, and as such, keep his golden boy on the bench learning for longer.

      Plus, it was obvious Pace wasn’t going to splurge this offseason, ergo, that extra $ would just get rolled over for essentially no reason since I think Pace is constitutionally incapable of splurging on ANY offseason, so for the next foreseeable man Xmases, we’re all going to have to settle for Wranglers not Levi jeans.

      I also suspect that Hoyer wanted out of here. He gets a starting gig with a former coach in SF.

      If Pace clued him about his plans, then that makes sense, so Hoyer was not a given as a Bear.

      • willbest

        I am not under them impression it was Hoyer or Glennon the way Jeff is. There were a number of QB’s to just plug in for less than half what we were paying Glennon. Hell we probably bid against ourselves on Glennon.

        And it isn’t like he doesn’t want to spend money, but he clearly has in his mind a ceiling and doesn’t go over it otherwise Bouye or Gilmore would be Bears. That is sound business too, but the money doesn’t disappear. If you look at my new post above, Leno is going to get paid $7 million a year, and we absolutely don’t have a better option than him. And you figure we are going to have to upgrade our WRs via FA at this point if we want to help Mitch.

        • When you walk into a store and say, “I don’t want to spend over $20 for that shirt” KNOWING someone else is going to pay $30, that’s not wanting to spend in my book.

          I respect Pace’s fiscal discipline in FA. Keeps us from being the Redskins.

          But if he keeps that attitude, EVERY FA season he’s going to miss out on the Bouye, Gilmore, Normans because it’s a given that ONE team will outbid Pace’s ceiling, and we’ll end up with the Cooper, Royal, tier of FA.

          But this seems to be Pace’s MO. Throw as much bargain bin fodder at a position and hopefully something sticks.

          Sometimes it does (Hicks) sometimes it doesn’t (Royal/Miller/Rolle).

          • willbest

            It makes sense to buy those pieces the way Denver did in Manning’s last 2 years. Doesn’t make much sense to overpay somebody like Bouye this year when your game plan is obviously 2019 & 2020

          • CanadaBear

            I think Pace is smart enough to spend big if the Bears are close and they need that final piece or two. Otherwise, he’s a garage sale/flea market kinda guy. I’m totally OK with it as long as he steps up at the correct time.

          • Yeah, I’m hoping that’s the case.
            But Puke fans prolly said the same thing about Thompson 10 yrs ago.

          • CanadaBear

            Pace did give Glennon some real cash.

          • SC Dave

            When you think about it, how much money is it to the McCaskeys?

          • CanadaBear

            It’s all relative.

  • SC Dave

    Why I guess I’ll always be a Bears fan…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0dNDeoKyEM

    • Bender McLugh

      great stuff

  • King of DBB

    Thayer. HOF?

  • BerwynBomber
    • willbest

      For safety? How about no TNF for safety.

      • CanadaBear

        For the players and audience. If you smoke there’s a good chance you could fall asleep during TNF and set the house on fire.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Here’s when Commissioner Albert would have Thursday Night Football:

          1) The opener.

          2) Thanksgiving Day with the proviso that all 6 Turkey Day teams have their bye the previous Sunday.

          Nobody ever has to play on “short rest”.

          I suppose you COULD have more Thursday games (the middle 8 weeks of the season, say) but, again, no teams involved will have played the previous Sunday.

          • CanadaBear

            100%. Throw in an extra bye week and it should be doable. You rarely ever hear NFL players publicly complain about much but A LOT of guys are vocal about Thursday night games.

      • BerwynBomber

        Well, we know the bottom line is considered in all these decisions. Lose five minutes of a game time advertising in a few OT games during year is minimal compared to lose 16 island games of advertising, which is what TNF represents.

  • BerwynBomber

    NFL owners also vote to allow a 2nd player to return from IR.

    • willbest

      Might as well just make it an 8 week disabled list at this point.

      • BearDown100393

        Good idea. Or at least give an option.

  • SC Dave

    I’d give the nod to Hilgenberg over Covert.

    Both were two-time All-Pro, but Hilgenberg played in 7 pro-bowls and Covert 2.

    • BerwynBomber

      Agreed. And Hilgenberg might not ever get in either. His honors are basically the same as Briggs. Though he has the SB winner shine that Briggs doesn’t.

  • BearDown100393

    Giraffe presser live!

    • SC Dave

      where?

      • BearDown100393

        Was on the Bears FB page. Maybe archived now on their site?

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Kevin Fishbain‏ @kfishbain 8m8 minutes ago
    Mike Glennon repeating sentiment about being the guy in 2017, “This is my year. … they brought me in to be the quarterback this year.”

    Matt Eurich‏Verified account @MattEurich 6m6 minutes ago
    “I get the [No.] 1 reps, that’s all I know” – Glennon on if he’s worried how reps get spread out.

    • willbest

      As it should be.

  • willbest

    spin off from the topic below. I found this somewhat interesting. the 20th highest paid player at each o-line position.

    LT – 7.1 million a year (10.5 million guaranteed)
    LG – 2.76 million single year contract, no guarantee
    C – 2.46 million (915k guaranteed) single year
    RG – 1.67 million single year, no guarantee
    RT – 4 million per year, 15 million guaranteed (rookie contract)

  • BerwynBomber
    • willbest

      Irish won’t believe.

    • BearDown100393

      Kid Cancer

    • Don’t know who to believe.

      Say what you will about Bmarsh, but he doesn’t put up with slackers, and by some accounts, Richardson is a total slacker who even got fined/suspended for showing up late (or missing) team meetings.

      Shoot, even in that report, the DC said Richardson has “something to prove” to which Richardson responded, “I’m proven, honestly,” he said. “I just have to get more stats. It’s my contract year.”

      That sounds like someone just wanting to cash in a la Bennett.

      Jets were also trying like fuck to trade Richardson away.

      However, it could be that BOTH are locker room cancers.

      • willbest

        That is the 4th locker room he has been kicked out of and you are going to go with “meh, its a toss up”?

        • Jets DC says Richardson has something to prove
          Richardson was disciplined for slacking
          Jets were trying to trade Richardson away

          I would say that BOTH are likely distractions for different reasons.

          I think when Bmarsh is on a loser team and the players check out, that’s when he loses it.

          Maybe Bmarsh should’ve considered that before thinking of his Showtime career and joining the Jets.

          • CanadaBear

            The only reason Richardson hasn’t been on another team is the guaranteed money this year $8.1 mil. That’s a lot for a guy with 1.5 sacks last year (to say the least). Marshall just wears everyone out eventually. Richardson sounds like the worst type of player, tons of talent, totally entitled, no self-awareness and lazy as fuck.

          • AlbertInTucson

            But, other than THAT….

          • CanadaBear

            Those guys are the worst as far as I’m concerned. Just do enough to keep the money coming in but bitch and complain all the while. Working with people like that is maddening.

          • Bender McLugh

            Haynesworth 2.0

      • Irish Sweetness

        Or both locker rooms are full of pussies with no heart?

  • King of DBB
    • Moses Christ. It’s May and White’s already on the sideline?

      https://fsmedia.imgix.net/fd/6f/5b/7f/e2f2/41a1/abf0/eb9926e61d87/you-read-this-one-yet.png

      Hopefully this is just precautionary like when they carted off what’s his name for simply being dehydrated.

      • willbest

        If I were a McCaskey, I would be livid at paying some guy $18 million to do nothing, but since I am just a fan, I find it humorous.

      • BearDown100393

        Whatever is really wrong with Kevin White, POX will lie about it anyway. The new expected truth is now complete BS.

      • Bender McLugh

        +100 pic. Nice

    • SC Dave

      It would not surprise me.

  • BerwynBomber

    Don’t see it. As SCD mentioned, Covert only made 2 PBs. A bit similar to Peanut (who only made 1). If you’re not getting honors/recognition during your career, tough to make a case for the ultimate one after you retire.

    They were both wonderful Bears just not HoF material. Not that close actually.

  • Logic to not playing Trubisky is wrong. Bears will have good o-line and
    run game. They also throw a lot of short passes. He’d be protected. – Jeff

    SMH.

    Does it matter if your car is protected to the max if you’re thrown into the Indy 500 without ever having raced?

    We all know how that endz.

    • willbest

      I am starting to get the impression that Jeff is the kind of guy that shouldn’t be kept by himself with his thoughts for too long or he will convince himself that fish are being oppressed by water and must be liberated from it for their own good.

    • BerwynBomber

      Jeff’s singularly focused Cutty love seems to have been re-directed toward Trubisky. Part of its condition seems based on the notion that all players on the roster of the same position (as the object of his affection) are not worth watching.

      The irony is that he seems to waste time on Twitter suggesting that fans rooting against Trubisky aren’t real Bears fans, but Jeff himself seems to suggest he’ll be rooting against Glennon.

      Ah well …

      • SC Dave

        No shit. What’s that all about?

        I’d be EEEE-FUCKING-LATED if Glennon were Offensive Player of the Year.

        Or finished second to Jordan Howard

  • “Makes sense. The Bears future doesn’t begin until Trubisky plays. So for me, everything between now and then is filler.” – Jeff

    Dunno why Glennon is always shorted.

    Remember when we all thought Hoyer and Barkley would Clausen it [10 possessions, 10 punts]?

    Both actually provided a spark before fizzling out. [Even Shaw in PS]

    I think Birdcage can work with Glennon.

    The two most important assets Glennon has going for him is that he seems durable, and protects the ball, which should put us in a position to compete week in, week out.

    • BerwynBomber

      Agreed. I’m looking forward to seeing what Glennon can do.

      • My way to early bold prediction of the season.

        Glennon has better overall stats and QBR than Eli.

        • willbest

          Love it.

          • AlbertInTucson

            The way Eli is trending, “…better overall stats…” could still be a BAD thing.

          • SC Dave

            He was talking between wild card and Super Bowl, I think.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Did some research.

            I retract my “trending” comment.

            26 TDs and 16 INTs and 4K+ yards passing for Eli last season. Thought he threw more picks.

            Much better than I thought, especially since the Giants didn’t have much of a running game.

            If Glennon can approach those numbers, I’ll take it.

    • SC Dave

      Jeff keeps getting more and more fringe with this nonsense.

  • EnderWiggin

    Covert belongs, but he’s not the last of the ’85 guys. McMichael gets my vote too.

    • SC Dave

      McMichael definitely over Covert. Hilgy over both IMO

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    DaBearsBlog‏ @dabearsblog 4h4 hours ago
    I don’t want to but at some point I’m going to have to convince myself to give a shit about these Mike Glennon starts.

    This is as bad as the jerks who boo-ed Trub at the Bulls game. Hypocritical of him to rant against them.
    Hope Glennon plays well this year and next year and make it difficult to simply hand over the job to Trub because he was #2 overall pick. Homers like Jeff simply want the job handed over to Trub by default.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      What has Jeff said that means he wants the job just handed over to Trub by default?

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        He is already looking past Glennon.

        He trusts Pace on Trub pick.But think Pace is a fool (by implication certainly) for signing up Glennon and dumping his favorite Cutler.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          You actually believe that Glennon is more than just a bridge guy?

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            Glennon is better than Trub today and will be this year. Because Trub is totally clueless about NFL defenses. And yet there homers like Jeff who think he could beat Glennon and start week 1.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Glennon is a 3rd round pick that could not beat out McCown and a rookie, hard to get excited about him.

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            It is not question of getting excited. Fact is he is the best QB on Bears roster in 2017.

            If Pace believed so much in Trub, if he was such a can’t miss prospect already better than Glennon why didn’t he jump all the way to #1 to pick him?

          • leftcoastdave

            He was the top pick in the draft, but not yet ready for prime time. Glenny might get it done.

            My two cents is that the O is reigned back to even more of a “heavy” set with Glenny giving many more chances out of play action to use the big TE weapons, Big Daddy out of the backfield or the WRs getting single coverage, all (or most) coming from under center.

            Start out conservative and bait them into the box.

          • Bender McLugh

            He could, but even if he does he should still sit the year.

          • SC Dave

            Glennon is a flyer. A potential star – low risk, potentially very high reward.

        • willbest

          I find myself checking my sanity when you and I agree on stuff.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I was told one had to check his sanity at the door, here.

          • Scharfinator

            Hee hee, too true.

    • BearDown100393

      Will be hard to replace the Giraffe when he wins every start this season.

      • SC Dave

        Let’s hope he starts the first 10 then. Shaw can go 7-2 the rest of the way (including the last 4 of course ) just to piss Jeff off.

      • Two 1st RDers and a 3rd should do it.

        • SC Dave

          And a new backup if Connor does not pan out.

    • SC Dave

      This. This. This.

      ESPECIALLY the first sentence.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Players can, again, celebrate in groups and use the football as a prop.

    Oh, goody.

    I sure missed THAT stuff.

    • SC Dave

      *sigh*

      It’s good so long as you can’t return a kick…

    • In related news, TO back in the NFL!

      Meh, I don’t mind it as long as it’s in good fun.

      I think the NFL prefers those than the “sexually provocative” solos.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjI_kPMijOM

    • willbest

      As long as there is a 9 second limit to the length of the celebration I am fine with that.

      • AlbertInTucson

        They review all scoring plays anyway and there is a “not too long” stipulation in the new rule.

        • SC Dave

          Oh great, more soft penalties. Vegas must love it

    • BerwynBomber

      Hah! I’m fine with the celebration stuff but if every player handed or flipped the ball to a ref I’d be more impressed.

      And some of it is mildly amusing. Was it Antonio Brown who was twerking last year? Or that SEA WR who mimed pooping out the ball? Or John Randall who would crawl on all fours and lift his leg like a dog pissing on a fire hydrant.

      Moronic shit but funny.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Walter Payton, Larry Fitzgerald, among others.

        • BerwynBomber

          Class. Then again, if everyone were so classy might not be as interesting.

          • Yeah, live a little.
            Personally I never show boated, but I always thought it was funny when my team mates did.

            Like I thought when Moss “mooned” the crowd was heelarious, esp after Joe Hair Plugs Buck lost his mind.

          • willbest

            I have always wanted to dunk opposing counsel’s motion in the trash can when I successfully defend against it. It would probably change the judge’s ruling though.

          • CanadaBear

            A victory lap around the court room might not go over so well.

          • CanadaBear

            The part that made me laugh was Buck going completely insane over it and all the Fudgie fans were either giving it back to Moss or laughing their asses off. I always hated Buck as an announcer but ever since then I’ve hated him because he’s such a grandstanding douchebag.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Class will tell.”

            Always.

        • CanadaBear

          Walter did an awful lot of epic spikes. At one point, he was giving the ball to the OL men and they did some choreographed hooey. I’m OK with it as long as it doesn’t go on too long.

  • BerwynBomber

    The league should consider shortening the number of BYE weeks and thereby distributing them more equitably.

    Limit the BYE weeks to W8-W11 of the season. Thus, there won’t be as much disparity as in the current system where one team gets a BYE in W4 vs. another that gets theirs in W10.

    Those early BYEs in the current system are the short end of the stick.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I can buy that.

  • BerwynBomber

    Back to the accuracy display stuff from yesterday.

    Drew Brees defeating an Olympic archer in bullseye accuracy. Pretty amazing but the vid is a bit long.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVoqA-LKGb4

    • SC Dave

      Holy shit.

      • BerwynBomber

        Full disclosure archers are at 50 yard remove, I believe.

        But the fact that Breezy hits 10/10 in such a minute target area from 20 yards is pretty mind-blowing.

  • This seems inevitable.

    ESPN New York believes Jets S Calvin Pryor might be a candidate for release.

    Pryor opted to skip voluntary OTAs and coach Todd Bowles said he didn’t want to discuss his absence. The Jets clearly do not havePryor in their long-term plans after they spent a first-round pick on S
    Jamal Adams and a second-rounder on S Marcus Maye. The Jets also declined the fifth-year option for Pryor. Even with the Jets not committed to Pryor long-term, it would be surprising if they opt to release him and eat his $1.6 million base salary.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzHPP54WvUI

    I wonder if he’s an upgrade over say a guy like Proskinksi.

    Then again, I expect Amos to be the backup SS, but maybe wouldn’t hurt to kick the tires on him.

    • willbest

      I thought Demps was our FS and Amos our SS.

      • That might be how it originally starts but Pace didn’t move up for a pure FS in Jackson to be backup.

        I think the plan is for Demps to hold down the SS, Amos to back up the SS, and Jackson to win the FS starting job with possibly a guy like Hall or Bush as backup.

        • leftcoastdave

          Hall might well push that envelope at FS, but I bet he will be out there in situational adjustments and become THE FS. The dude from LSU is a dude with great college experience and a real leader. The question(s) become the extent to which da Bears want to let EJ develop as “the QB” vs Demps with the Xperience, Hall with the amazing length and speed, and all those other “in the box” dudes and what shakes out where. I only believe and hope that many get out there situationally and can all step up.

          It will be interesting to see how it all evolves, but expect to see Hall used on what are more likely the passing downs, be they second or third down, and be more of a great over the top cover back who can also pick up even a TE if needed.

        • Irish Sweetness

          You start the rookie over Amos and Hall?

          • If he’s healthy and looks good, sure.

            Amos started as a rook and didn’t embarrass himself, and he’s a JAG.

            If Jackson is the reals, then start him up

            It’s not QB, and Jackson played in an NFL type D in Bama. When I saw his tape, he was the one lining up that secondary, so he’s ahead of the game in that respect.

  • leftcoastdave

    That news about Kevin White makes one ponder. Do you red shirt him again or bring him out of “injury” status after seeing what else we have on the roster? We’re picked to win any of the first four games? Why not let him hang and keep recovering while seeing who else might step up?

    Just my out of the box thought when I first read it.

    • BerwynBomber

      The only issue with that — beside him not playing — is that he was given ample time to recover from his first injury and still got injured last year.

      I’d play him provided he’s healthy. Would be more inclined to wrap him in bubble wrap if he was destined to be the next Megatron, but I don’t think that’s in the cards.

    • AlbertInTucson

      SMH.

      Trib: “Kevin White’s Progress A Mystery As Bears Begin OTAs.”

      Isn’t. That. Special.

      Anybody here surprised?

      Anybody here think White is EVER going to be a factor in the Bears’ offense?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Before, yes. Now, not so much.

      • Scharfinator

        Yeah… bust city here he comes…

  • BearDown100393

    Did Paulie arrange to have the taped handle gun secured to the overhead toilet box just in case Mitch smelled trouble?

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