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Three Thoughts on the Bears Beating the Hell Out of the Bengals

| December 11th, 2017

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(1) I simply didn’t see it coming. I pride myself on having a good feel as to how the Bears will play on a week-to-week basis and I thought the stage was set Sunday for an overwhelming Bengals victory. Instead the Bears, with a lame duck coach, undermanned offense and injury-plagued defense, delivered their best performance of the season. They were simply great in all three phases and that is a credit to John Fox.


(2) Trubisky. Cohen. Howard. Shaheen. Whitehair. Jackson. If you want to know why Ryan Pace isn’t going to be fired, watch the tape of this game. The GM is building a young nucleus through the draft; something the Bears have not done in nearly twenty years. This job will be the best open gig in the NFL come January.


(3) Mitch Trubisky’s last two games. 37-47 (79% completed), 373 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs and quarterback rating around 115.

Okay, so I’m not going to overreact to these two games. I didn’t overreact to some of his struggles so I’m not going to overreact to his terrific play the last two weeks. But the thing that should excite Bears fans is the number of players on this roster who are quick to tell media, immediately post-game, how great a leader Trubisky is. Folks, that’s not normal. Rookies don’t command huddles very often. Rookies don’t impress veterans with their attitude and composure very often. This kid has all the intangibles of a great quarterback.

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  • evantonio

    Bears receivers were getting open for the first time all season. What a weird thing to watch.

    • Scharfinator

      I wonder how much better the O-line is without Long at 50%.

      • Big Mike

        Your the first person, outside of my o-line buddies and coaches I’ve seen make this comment. Long has definitely been a weak link on certain plays and schemes. He will have the occasional play where he gets into a guy and just powers through them, but his footwork and hand-technique have been limited due to his injuries. Compton was an upgrade over a broken Kyle Long.

        • Bear Instincts

          Move him to Center and prolong his career

          • Scharfinator

            I figure shut him down for the 2018 season too. Let him truly get healthy.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m guessing he gets the labrum surgery pretty soon. Not sure if that ankle needs more surgery or just rest. I think the problems with both his hands will heal up on their own. I think all of this is doable in the off season. Let’s hope!

          • willbest

            He should have been shut down 2 weeks ago. I get the feeling Long’s super human asset is his ability to ignore pain. This allows him to push beyond what other people are capable of enduring and beat them, but it also means he is going to breakdown because he goes past the physical limits of his bones/muscles/etc

          • CanadaBear

            With his history of addiction, I’m guessing he doesn’t go crazy on the painkillers. The mind is a wonderful thing.

          • Doc Hamstring

            I haven’t been following closely for the past year+, so I don’t know precisely what ankle issue Long has/had, but ankle surgery is often a much longer recovery, even for simple procedures, than people want.

            Two reasons. 1) Unlike knees, elbows, shoulders, etc., you don’t have a lot of large muscle groups where one particular muscle can brace another that’s weakened. And worse, there aren’t as many ways to rehab an ankle and strengthen the joint as you have with other joints. There is one primary movement range (flexion/extension) that you want, and the other movements (torsion, eversion, inversion) are instabilities you’re trying to eliminate. Without large muscle groups stabilizing the joint, it takes a lot longer to work those injuries and get a feeling of stability.

            2) The “tape it up and go” mentality means that once a guy is 90% pain free with normal motion, there is an impulse to brace the hell out of the joint with tape/splits and let the athlete go back to work before the joint is healed. And yeah, the splinting/taping will minimize unwanted torsion/eversion/inversion and give the appearance of a working ankle under load, but the reality is that th joint is still healing, and the athlete is putting wear and tear on it doing flexion/extension, and hampering the healing process. There was just a good New York Times article discussing ankle injuries and why they’re so insidious, citing this exact thing. People (athletes included) start putting the joint to work too early. And in football, all that tape masks a long-term healing process getting interrupted.

            I just saw a marathon runner that had a simple debridement on one tendon in his ankle. Non weight-bearing for 2 months, no ballistic exercises (including running) for 6 months post-op. Guy pointed out that 8 weeks after spraining his ankle, he ran a full marathon, and he’s 3 months post-op and isn’t allowed to run for another 3. I pointed out him running the marathon on an incompletely healed ankle is what led to his tendonosis and debridement surgery, so he just needed to shut it down and let his body heal. The ankle is a bunch of ligaments and tendons holding together small bones that support the entire weight of a person’s body, and there aren’t a whole lot of ways to get it stronger and healthier other than time.

          • SC Dave

            Great post, Doc. Please continue to chime in with the expert knowledge!

          • fishing florida

            well said.

          • SC Dave

            No. Leave Cody Whitehair at center and be done with it, damnit!

    • Big Mike

      Inman took their top (and only starting) DB. That left or other guys on back ups. The game plan actually looked like it was designed to target those mismatches. The Bears weren’t predictable. Trubisky was quicker with his reads, it all worked well. I didn’t recognize the team.

      • Bear Instincts

        This is why I have been saying any other coach could have done more with this roster. Yes we have a talent deficit but not to the extent that people think. We have a young core to work with. This is the vision that Pace put on the table when he took the job. Glad to see it coming to fruition.

        • Big Mike

          They didn’t just get smarter this week. The truth may never be known. Maybe this week Fox said fuck it and let Birdcage do what he wanted. Maybe Mitch changed plays. Maybe everything that could have gone right did. Was this an outlier? Or can they continue to play well next week. Beating the Lions on the road would be proof.

    • willbest

      Cinny was without their best DB, and their other DBs are Jags.

  • TBC

    You “pride yourself on having a good feel as to how the Bears will play”?

    LOL

    • BearDown100393

      Good job finding the fortitude to barely defeating Cleveland. That was epic.

      • TBC

        I thought I fared well. Happy with my performance.

  • BearDown100393

    Winning is all that matters.

    Have a great week.

  • Alex

    It seems to me like Loggains was ‘let off the leash’ and was allowed to run the offence how he wanted and how it would best suit Trubisky. Does anyone else believe this or am I mis-reading it? The offence was nicely balanced and everybody area from running back to QB to WR was the better for it. Crikey we even saw some play action which ‘SHOCK ME’ actually worked! And to think they used Shaheen in the passing game which is the whole reason he was drafted in the first place.

    The defence was surprisingly effective yesterday as well given the amount of injuries it has and I thought Houston was good and may have played himself into a new short term contract with the Bears next season though he’ll obviously need to keep it up going forward. Good for him. He deserves things to go his way.

    Fuller and Amukamara have almost certainly played their way into new contracts and deservedly so. The Bears can cut Cooper to cover the cost and hopefully are able to draft a CB in the draft to cover for Cooper being moved on.

    The concerning/annoying thing is if Fox wins out 7-9 and retains his position how likely is he to go back to Run, Run, Pass. That would kill me.

    • chitownproud85

      Winning a game and being within a country mile of “winning out” doesnt seem like a valid leap, and i doubt we’ll have to worry about all that. the bears are as likely to shit the bed this week against detroit(who is still in playoff contention) as they are show up like today. i could see 5-11, wonder if the bosses will view a two win “improvement” as reason to keep him 😛

      pretty sure foxy is gone regardless. Pace will cut the cord because it will allow him to hit a…psuedo reset…button and buy himself an extra year or two, which he sure as hell wont if he keeps foxy and they lay another egg. dude extends his career by hiring another coach after this year.

    • Big Mike

      It’s the good news, bad news scenario with Fox. I was surprised when the Bears cut Houston.

      • SC Dave

        A wake-up call, perchance?

        • Big Mike

          I don’t think Fox can be awakened. My theory is, Pace told him he’s done. Fox let birdcage do what he wanted. Not an original theory, but it fits a number of facts.

          • SC Dave

            I meant for Houston.

          • Big Mike

            I thought Houston looked dominant in PS. It was game 4, but he was the best player on the field. In any case, I hope he keeps at it has a great off season and is on the squad. I like that guy.

    • leftcoastdave

      Executing a sophisticated NFL offense is not like drawing up a play in a sandlot.

      What has been presumptuous all year is those criticizing the play calling without taking into account the reality of the YUGE step MT has taken from where he was to where he is and the simple fact that his targets are also all new to the system. There were never any “go to” options. The options needed to be developed. The same can be said about Tarik the Freak and Adam Shaheen. This is a new level and new things being asked of them.

      Can’t be expecting this kind of stuff to have been rolled out earlier in the season. Crawl, walk, run.

      • Bear Instincts

        all very true points. however we could have been play the way we did against the bangles weeks ago if mt10 had competed during camp/gotten 1st team reps/and firefox was not a conservative coach. we should have been crawling, walking and running a long time ago

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          we could have been playing that way weeks ago if Fox was not such a conservative fuck and closed up the playbook anytime we got a little momentum. I forget which game it was but we opened up the playbook for the 1st half and looked really good then the play calling went to shit for the 2nd half and the next couple games.

          • willbest

            I am convinced Fox was told to leave Loggains alone.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            same here.

          • BearDown100393

            Yep

      • BerwynBomber

        “What has been presumptuous all year is those criticizing the play calling without taking into account the reality of the YUGE step MT has taken from where he was to where he is and the simple fact that his targets are also all new to the system.”

        YES

      • How hard is it to run RPO (that Trub is used to) or do that boot misdirection?

        EVERY rookie QB can run it. It’s not complicated.

        It took the coaching geniuses a few games to do some jet sweeps, to re-insert Cohen and Sasheen into the game plan – to actually target WRs

        to go shotgun (again, what Trub ran in NC) and mix up the run-run-pass predictive formula.

        Trub didn’t re-invent the wheel yesterday.

        He ran elementary plays – it just so happened that the coaches for ONCE gave him elementary plays that made sense – and Trub executed them vs a beat up demoralized team.

        He could’ve ran a lot of those plays from day #1. this staff was just too scared or stupid to do so.

  • BearDown100393

    “Remember, in the John Fox era, next week is usually when the team doesn’t show up.”

    That era is hopefully over. I’m trying to convince myself that this is now the Mitch Trubisky Era instead. And that is a big step upward.

  • Big Mike

    Over the summer, I made the comment that it’s really the last month of the season that will determine how we feel about the off season. Not really a great prediction, almost obvious. But it’s worth point out that the Bears could fall right in the range of wins predicted by some of the more positive blog participants.

    • BearDown100393

      There is nothing to brag about prognisticating a losing season.

    • willbest

      The infuriating part of a 5-11 season is that it could have been 8-8 if Fox didn’t retire sometime last June without quitting.

      • AlbertInTucson

        In the military I believe they call that going “R.O.A.D.” or Retiring On Active Duty. –
        (Heartbreak Ridge)

        • CanadaBear

          We always called it retired in place.

      • Big Mike

        You just wonder what the real story is. I don’t know if starting Trubisky from the jump, changes our record in the first 4 games, but I’m betting we pick up a win in weeks 5-10 that we didn’t get.

        • leftcoastdave

          The real story is obvious. Trub was a deer in the headlights when it came to reading the D and barely knew the names of his receivers, let alone where they would be on the field.

          Then there was losing both starting ILBs.

          Yesterday we saw a QB ready to play the position.

          Think Kiser would be better with a slower start?

          • Bear Instincts

            We saw a QB ready to play because he had the opportunity to learn. That opportunity was not given him. He was stripped of the chance to have the opportunity was he was told he would not compete for the starting job/no first team reps

          • Big Mike

            I was never an advocate of starting Trubisky from from the start. I was a big fan of Glennon. Until he played :(. The ILBs really not relevant to my comment. We could add, “or if Howard didn’t have paddles for hands”

          • The REAL REAL story is that Pace signed Glennon, then practically had to start him due to his $16M price tag.

            Pace signed Freeman, so he’s ultimately responsible for that.

            INJs happen, so Tre going down is not really on him, but Pace DID draft Kwiat in the 4rth.

            Kwiat looks like a JAG.

            and NOBODY was comparing Kizer to Trub from the draft to now.

            There’s a reason Kizer fell to the Browns in the 2nd.

            Pace also could’ve fired Fox last season and hired McVay or Shannahan to coach up Trub.

            So while it was a nice win, it doesn’t just mask over lots of miscues by POX.

          • SC Dave

            Even *if* you’re right and Kwiat *is* a JAG, a servicable back-up that contributes on specials in the 4th round is not a terrible pick. Shit, if he sticks well enough to get a second contract, I’d say it is a successful pick for a 4th rounder.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            You can start JAGs on D if the people around them are good. Look at Hunter Hillenmeyer.

  • WP4Life

    On pic above great look on MT face…

    who would of knew…

  • That Guy

    That bootleg ladder to Bellamy was a fantastic play. If the defenders had rolled up on Bellamy, Cohen would be open underneath.

    That play should be the bread-n-butter for this team. Misdirection left, defense has to respect play action, boot right and have a choice of two receivers… and if both are covered, Mitch tucks and runs for 10 yards.

    • SC Dave

      I loved that call too. Maybe add a third layer further downfield… if we can someone fast enough to get there.

      • AlbertInTucson

        The Bears’ “Bread and Butter” play up to this point was running on first down into 9 or 10 man boxes.

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      • SC Dave

        Actually, I watched it again, and they DID have the third layer. It was Sims. Maybe Shaheen gets there sooner?

    • I don’t understand why they didn’t incorporate that more from the start like we were calling.

      Again, it’s not rocketscience.

      Oh, well. 11 weeks too late, but better late than never I suppose.

  • CanadaBear

    After watching Seattle melt down at the end of the game, Bennett is one low-class individual. I hope he gets suspended for a few weeks. He deserves it. Unlike SC Dave I’m not even remotely outraged over Jefferson trying to get into the stands. No doubt he isn’t very bright (he took his helmet off) and should have just kept going but when people are throwing shit at you I get why he was so pissed. Not sure what that last projectile was that just missed his head but that would certainly piss most of us off. The security in the stadium was pretty shoddy in that area. They should have known it was going to be a shit show between the fans and the Squawks players leaving through the tunnel. Jefferson was in the wrong and should have just kept going but as far as I’m concerned I wish he would have gotten into the stands and kicked that guy’s ass.

    • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

      The Bennett’s are bullies when it comes down to it. I’d imagine that the list of people the Bennett brothers truly love and respect are each other and their dad.
      Imagine being superhuman and enormous and rich, seemingly beholden to no one. One could become quite an asshole, especially if at a young age they were abandoned by someone that was supposed to be their greatest protector. Those two dudes are walking psychoanalysis textbooks. It’s sad and a little funny and also pretty transparent. It’s unfortunate that the media ate up the bullshit like they did. There is a lot of venom behind those smiles.

      • CanadaBear

        100%. The only reason they ever get a pass is because of their talent and the ability to be charming once in a while.

    • willbest

      Well they had just escorted Richardson into the locker room a play earlier so a couple of the guys that might ordinarily have been there may have headed down the hallway with him.

      As for Jefferson, he should be suspended for not heading straight to the locker room after ejection. Because if he would have done that, he wouldn’t have been in the position to charge the fans anyway.

      Plus you don’t know what shit he said to them to them to prompt the beverage being thrown. Not that I am excusing the escalation. The fan in question should be charged with some sort of misdemeanor for his conduct. But Jefferson is fucking wearing the NFL uniform. He just has to take shit, and let security handle it.

      As for your last comment, Jefferson would be headed to prison on A&B if he did that. He would not have been entitled to self defense in that situation. And the NFL would have had no choice but to ban him for life, because the absolute last thing they can have is an NFL player hurting a fan while on the clock.

      • CanadaBear

        I didn’t say it was the right thing to do and I get all you posted. I’m just saying I wish he would have kicked the guy’s ass.

    • SC Dave

      I didn’t say anything about the guy going into the stands. I was talking about the shit on the field. Seahawks ejected on consecutive plays when the other team is kneeling to run out the clock.

      • CanadaBear

        You were going so crazy and swearing like a Tourettes sufferer I wasn’t exactly sure which one(s) made you so upset. Not to mention our mutual love of Pete Carroll and Michael Bennett.

        • SC Dave

          I hate that shit, Canada. No place for it.

          For what it’s worth, I don’t really have anything against Pete Carroll. From what they were saying on the broadcast, he was evidently rather perturbed by the behavior of his players – enough so to lose control and pick himself up an unsportsmanlike conduct flag by going out on the field to yell at them.

          • CanadaBear

            Good. Usually he’s like college cheerleader and his teams have a bit of a rep for extra-curricular activity (to say the least). I’ve disliked the Bennett’s ever since the black uni body slammed Fuller. Wasn’t much a of fan before that.

      • willbest

        Trying to get the ball on a victory formation makes sense in playoff situation though. Otherwise the NFL should just let a team do a conga line to run out the last 1:45

    • BerwynBomber

      The Bennetts have really shown themselves to be d-bags this year.

      First you had Michael lying about his altercation with Vegas police. Then you had Black Uni lying to get his ass out of GB once Rodgers went down.

      I don’t mind SEA. They cross the line occasionally but they don’t consistently try to injure or ruin careers like, say, Burfect. Plus, IMO Wilson is one of the three most exciting QBs (Rodgers and Wentz being the other two) in the NFL.

      But the Bennetts’ act has gotten very old.

      • “The Bennetts have really shown themselves to be d-bags this year”

        THIS yr? More like always have been Dbags.

        Their schtick got old VERY fast.

        • BerwynBomber

          I would contend they took it to another level this year. I don’t recall them as bald-faced liars in the past.

  • AlbertInTucson

    We need to pump the brakes JUST a bit.

    The acid test is performing like this, as a team, this Saturday in Detroit.

    Of course, beating the Loins helps you-know-who.

    • willbest

      Yes… I am torn on that front.

      • BerwynBomber

        I can’t see GB making it. They were fortunate to play three basement dwellers (CLE, TB, CHI) during Hundley’s run and all three of those teams should have beaten them. (And yes Fox should have been fired post-game.)

        Now they return to playing the big boys and even if Rodgers suits up he will undoubtedly be rusty and at best they will go 2-1. Plus, NO and ATL already own tiebreakers against them and CAR might too after next Sunday.

        In all likelihood there will be a 10 win NFC team sitting at home this year. Could be anyone of the playoff contenders not named PHI or MIN.

    • BearDown100393

      I expect the Bears to beat Detroit.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I expect the Bears to go undefeated from now till game 3 of the 2019 season.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Well, of COURSE you do.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          some has to be overly upbeat around here, even if it’s laughable. If we had one more bad week some of the guys around here would be jumping out windows.

      • SC Dave

        Would work for me!

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Good game yesterday. It does not however give Fox a pass in any way. He should be and will be gone in 2018 and rightfully so. A another season of too little to late. Show him the door, get the players healthy and bring in someone who can use the talent on this team from day ONE.

    • The LEAST Fox can do is win some games down the stretch and instill SOME confidence in Trub and the core.

      Agree though. Still doesn’t make up for the turd sandwhich that is his record.

      • SC Dave

        Winning out would be the perfect scenario. It would begin the process of building a winning tradition for the young guys, and would allow Fox to walk off into his catamaran on the Intracoastal with his dignity restored.

        At least the story could be spun that way.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          that would be a sight… Fox waddling along the beach heading to his fishing hole, his Depends sagging a bit. At least he has his dignity.

  • fishing florida

    A pleasure to watch the bears on game pass this week. too many games this year, it has just been too painful to watch the replays. a bit of belief has creeped back for after watch trubisky and the rookies do so well.

    • SC Dave

      It’s especially fun watching Howard repeatedly transform 4 yard runs into 15 yard plays.

  • BearDown100393

    Wentz is done.

    • CanadaBear

      Well that sucks. Not surprising, but it sucks.

  • willbest

    So I was screwing around with the playoff machine, and Green Bay needs surprisingly little help assuming they win out. Not a given when they are @CAR, MIN, @DET, but not an insurmountable hurdle either.

    • BearDown100393

      I hate them

    • AlbertInTucson

      It would/will be sublime for Rodgers to return and then LOSE to Carolina.

      Not sure the GB defense can to to Carolina what the Bears did.

      • BearDown100393

        Defense?

      • willbest

        Its whether or not good Cam or bad Cam shows up.

        • BearDown100393

          Depends on the hat selection

        • AlbertInTucson

          After the Bear game, I think Chico scrapped the “Let’s make Cam more of a pocket passer” concept and he’s been pretty much “Good Cam” since.

      • AlbertInTucson

        That game is AT Carolina.

  • willbest

    If the Eagles lose the next 3 games, would the cement Wentz as the 2017 MVP?

    • BearDown100393

      No

      • willbest

        Really? I would think a team that goes 11-2 with a guy, and then 0-3 without him would pretty much require that he be the MVP of that team, and considering that team’s place in the league pretty much make him a finalist. By contrast, look at the Packers who are 3-4 under hundley.

        • BearDown100393

          Brady

          • willbest

            But at the start of the season the Pats defense was crap and they went 2-2. Then Hoodie adapted and nobody scored 17 points against them since.

          • BearDown100393

            The NFL is dealing with a growing trend of players retiring younger. Brady will serve a purpose and he will be more than happy to take the honor.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Russell Wilson accounts for more than 80% of his team’s yards.

          • BearDown100393

            He is the offense

          • CanadaBear

            I think half the East Coast press and all the national press vote for Brady as MVP before the season.

    • Has a player who was INJ with 3+ games left ever won the MVP?

      • willbest

        Probably not, and if Wilson pulls the next 3 games out of his butt without half his defense that would be a strong case for him.

        Brees has a strong case but that pick at the endzone didn’t help him make it.

        Brady is playing perfect football, but then Hoyer would have won the last 8 games the way the D has been playing. So its hard to say he adds the same value as the other guys. Then again the award typically turns into the best QB award.

        • I would have a dark horse MVP

          Antonio Brown.

          Dude has been fucking amazing this yr, and I think is on pace to have Megatron ’13 type season.

          I know non-QBs rarely win, but he’s gotta be in the convo.

          As for QBs…I got another shocker.

          Keenum.

          • SC Dave

            Keenum has been damn good. It would be nice to see a non-glamor player win for a change.

          • BerwynBomber

            Ah, you beat me to the Keenum toss. Hadn’t seen your response when I wrote mine.

        • BerwynBomber

          Brady is a wrap, I believe. I’d give it to Wilson or Wentz (if voting ended today) but you can’t go wrong with Brady. He’ll win it. And probably win it comfortably.

          One guy who should get a few votes? Keenum. I kid you not. Even if I wait for him to crash down any day.

  • Reading Jeff’s title, I was still half expecting a YT link to some animal fight.

    • BearDown100393

      No more Vick flicks

  • AlbertInTucson

    NFL just inked a new $2.5B deal with Verizon.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Carson Wentz suffered torn ACL in win over Rams. -NFL.com.

    Because Wentz forgot he wasn’t a damn FULLBACK.

    • BearDown100393

      He played on it after also. That probably did not help.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yup. There is a reason why Wentz and Rodgers suffered serious injuries this year. It is called too many plays outside of the pocket.

      Will be interesting to see if Wentz curtails his freelancing in the coming years.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Trubisky yesterday: 2 Carries.

        • BerwynBomber

          Yeah, Butch and I were talking about that yesterday.

          Bisky seems not to take big hits. That’s a good, innate quality. Plus, unlike Rodgers, he’s not skinny. And unlike Wentz, he doesn’t provide a large target area.

  • Cubs_Questions

    I have to start by saying that I’m not advocating this, but 0 to 10, what do you think the odds are that Fox can re-inspire confidence in his coaching ability with a strong finish to the season? He used his personnel well yesterday, and the Bears won big. If he can parlay that into a beatdown against the Browns and a division win or two on the road? Seems like the FO might at least consider holding onto Fox thinking that the team had finally turned a corner.

    • CanadaBear

      Ugh. Just say no to Foxy.

      • Cubs_Questions

        Haha I agree, I don’t want Fox to be in Chicago in 2018. But I’m not the one who has to say no to Foxy to get him out of here.

    • BearDown100393

      Less than zero.

    • This sounds an awful lot like Cutler defenders after the Gase yr or the Vike’s game.

      Anytime you feel like relapsing, just throw on the Hundley-Bears game.

      And remind yourself that was after a bye, that the Puke had a short week, playing with a 3rd back, mashed Oline, on the road.

      And that Fox NEVER won a game he was favored in.
      And that he has a worse record than Trestman or any Bears coach for that matter, and the Bears have been around since the Great Depression.

      • Cubs_Questions

        Like I said, I don’t think Fox deserves to be here next season. He has done a bad job, plain and simple. I’m just trying to put myself into the mind of Pace and the front office. If the Bears beat Minnesota and Detroit on the road and they think that things are moving in the right direction, I think it’s realistic to say that there’s a non-zero chance that they keep Fox around.

        Again, I’d personally like to see him go. I like Shurmer (and a few other possible candidates) a lot. I’m just playing some devil’s advocate here.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      Fuck that.

  • BearDown100393

    “I don’t understand the Loggains hate.”

    Hopefully a divisional opponent will hire him so our new coaching staff can destroy his new team twice a season.

  • CanadaBear
    • willbest

      Where do I go if I want 12 points? why is that market not being served!

      • CanadaBear

        Patience Grasshopper. I think AJ just came up with the 11, no telling where it will go next year!

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I was thinking the opposite. Jahn’s has 11, Biggsy’s has 10. Just too much reading I really wish someone had 9 things.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Biggs actually posts MORE than 10.

      • John F
  • CanadaBear
    • Guess Wright is sticking around.

      “Kendall did a great job getting open,” Trubisky said. “He just keeps
      telling me to stick with him on some of those option routes that he has,
      and I did. I just trusted him and he went up and made great catches
      today. That’s what we expect out of Kendall — to get open for us and
      make catches — and the offensive line did a great job for us up front
      all day.”

      2. Impressed by Quinten Demps speech night before. Be a pro. Finish. Apparently made an impact.This is why gambling on football is not a good idea

      Also found it funny they referred to him as “Q” (Trek ref!)

      3. Howard, “I haven’t been as physical this season with my (right) shoulder
      injury,” Howard said. “I felt like this game, I was starting to get back
      to being violent. It was a big relief. There was a little frustration
      because things weren’t going the way we wanted them to and we weren’t
      having any success on offense but we couldn’t let that get us down. We
      had to keep coming out and fighting.“We had them off balance.

      They didn’t know if we were running or throwing.”

      Nough said.

      4. Sasheen had a good game.

      Was thinking who he reminds me of, and it’s sorta Witten.

      A TE who can block and just get position.

      Sasheen’s supposed to be some phenomenal athlete, but I see him more in the Witten mold. An all-around TE who makes those tough catches.

      5. AJ Green subdued.

      I actually kind of expected this. The Fangio D generally does a good job of containing big stud WRs. Even Julio the first week had like 50 yds or something. Just one of those things we tend to do well.

      Also, most teams attack our middle, but Tre and Callahan back and healthy really helped there. (Callahan had the tip which Jackson INTed)

      And Jackson was playing out of his mind, so the middle wasn’t as soft as it was without them.

      6.Speaking of Action Jackson, hat-trick! Int, FF, Fumble recovery.

      Thought he would be most impactful rookie. So far, I think it’s true (Outside Trub, naturally)

      7. Roy-Robert Harrison also looking decent. He was one of the PS darlings, so hopefully he can come on. It’ll make Pace’s dumb ass Jaye Howard signing a little less dumb esp since Unrein is down, and Goldman – who knows?

      8. Interesting about PS and Brandon Green a converted TE. Converted TEs tend to make good OTs

      “Greene might be one of the most interesting players in this group too.
      Greene reported to training camp at 295 pounds and he’s up to about 310
      now, having gotten positive results from the weight room. I’m not saying
      Greene is a future starter but if he can develop into a swing tackle,
      that’s a real win for the Bears moving forward”

      10. If Bears win 2 more games or so, might fall out of top 10 in draft cuz of strength of schedule.

      Wow, so not only would we have to endure a crappy 17, but not even be excited about a top 10 prospect in ’18.

      If we’re in the 10 range, that could take OT/Edge out of our range.

      • SC Dave

        There was a lot written for “thing” #2. And it’s what I’ve been writing here for weeks now. *The most important thing* the Bears can accomplish is NOT the development of Mitch Trubisky. The most important thing is to produce a culture of *winning*.

        • I’m shocked Fox let an injured player give the speech.

          I could understand if it were McPhee who’s been around though hurt.

          But Demps of all ppl? He hasn’t done shit and it’s his first yr on the team.

          He must have a helluva personality.

      • BearDown100393

        Pace would do himself well with reviewing players on offense with MT after the season is immediately over. Do not release guys without considering MT’s input. Players like Wright should be in camp next season competing for jobs. Clearly MT trusts this receiver and that goes a long way toward rebuilding a proper offensive unit.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I think if Shaheen ends up like Witten everyone will be thrilled. Future HOFer!!!

        • BerwynBomber

          Yeah, that analogy seemed a huge stretch. I’m not even sure that Cohen = Sproles 2.0.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I would be happy if Cohen = Sproles 0.8. because Sproles 1.0 was damn good when used properly.

          • What I mean by “Witten-esque” is not that he’ll become like him, but that’s more Sasheen’s mold in my football eyes.

            I think Pace and gang were selling him as some sort of freak athlete.

            Well, when you’re playing against future IT guys, then yeah, he looks great.

            But I think at the NFL level he’s more like Witten and less like other TE freaks like Gronk, Kelce or Reed.

            Maybe he can be like Tyler Eifert (preferably without the INJs).

      • Irish Sweetness

        Was Fangio’s D containing AJ Green or was it Kyle Fuller? Looked like Fuller to me.

        • When Fuller was out last yr with pussities, they were containing big bodied #1WRs like Evans (and that was with a one-legged Porter), so it seems like a scheme thing.

          Even FF articles I come across always warn to temper #1WR output when facing Bears’ D.

          Doesn’t mean they don’t get burnt everywhere else like the slot.

  • Malice Halice

    No excuse! We beat dat ASS yesterday. Great to see our unit perform like that. Can’t be more excited to da bears shutdown weapons like Aj n Dalton.

  • BearDown100393

    “Well someone is developing Trubisky because he’s correcting mistakes every week.”

    Answer – Mitch Trubisky

    • willbest

      You went from the guy is a bust to the guy is capable of improving himself without the aid of coaching

      • BearDown100393

        He is all he has until a proper staff is hopefully installed by Pace.

        And yes, Mitch might still be a bust.

        Time will tell. But he did well yesterday. And that should be good enough to keep the rats at bay for another week.

        • Juan Stone

          If the Bears start winning consistently, the rubber necking will stop.

          • BearDown100393

            Winning cures all.

      • CanadaBear

        Give BD credit, he’s here and not laying low. There might be some truth to it. Foxy says MT is always at Halas Hall, 7 days/week. Maybe MT is never more than JAG but he sure wants to be good and a leader. That part of his makeup will serve him well.

        • Juan Stone

          But what of he’s got the fever and can’t resist just like the rest of us? He he

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      A teacher once told me ‘There are no stupid questions, but there are stupid answers’ Loggains and the QB coach are in fact coaching MT.

      • BearDown100393

        Sure

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        I’ve known a lot of stupid teachers.

  • Juan Stone

    11 things, 12 shmings…. who cares? Just win Baby! A couple more beat downs to end the Season and all of a sudden, the pain goes away.

    • CanadaBear

      One thing for sure, Trac is back!

      • Juan Stone

        And forth…

  • FF…Move over George Constanza, for there is a new king of idiots…

    On my bench: Howard (36 points) Hunt (31 points) and Collins (30).

    And oh yeah, Ertz ruled out. 0 points. Other eagles’ TEs? 3 TDs ( 20+points)

    that’s right, my bench has scored 131 points while my starters have scored 141.

    Dion Lewis better run for 200 yds tonight.

    • AlbertInTucson

      We ALL get nailed by that in fantasy.

      I played the wrong kicker twice this season, ergo, I am 8-5 instead of 10-3.

      This week, Dan Bailey misses 2 FGs for the first time in forever and throws in a missed PAT to boot.

      If he makes just 1 of those two from 50 yesterday I’m only down 8 instead of 12.

      Down by 12. To the first place team. Who has beaten me 3 times already and leads the league at 9-3-1 despite being next to the last in scoring.

      I need a huge game from Brady tonight.

      Bad time for Gronk to be an idiot.

      • BearDown100393

        Gronk is an idiot.

      • oomph. I don’t think Brady will blow up tonight simply because he won’t have to.

        He’ll get his machine like 250, 2 TDs, but I don’t see him getting 400 3+TDs

        Could be wrong, but Pat’s have Cutler’s number. And they’re 11 point road favorites, which I think is the highest road favs all season, and highest I can recall for a couple yrs.

        To a certain extent, you gotta be rooting Cutty keeps MIA in it so they won’t pull Brady out in a 40-7 blow out.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Pats don’t do well in Miami. Trap game.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Worse, my opponent has Cooks so any TD pass to him just puts me further behind.

    • BearDown100393

      It is just fantasy football.

      It is fake.

      • And as my philo prof used to say, football is just a bunch of millionaires running around w a ball.

        Yet here we are.

        • BearDown100393

          Aint real til the soil stains with blood

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Likely to be little at stake in either of the Bears final two games. Saturday, in Detroit, they can end Lions playoff hopes and potentially get their coach fired. Big, big NFC North game.”
    Aren’t there three games left?
    Caldwell IMO has done a good job in DET, especially when you consider they lost two HoF level talents during his tenure (Megatron and Suh) and one PB-level LB (D. Levy).
    If you fire Caldwell you better know exactly who is replacement is.
    Fox and Trestman are guys you just fire.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Maybe the Lions will hire Fox and Trestman.

  • BerwynBomber

    McCown out for the year.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21741266/josh-mccown-new-york-jets-needs-surgery-left-hand-miss-rest-season

    Interesting that of the three ex-Bears QBs who started for different teams at the start of the year he will most likely have had the best year statistically. But gotta assume the NYJ will still go after a QB in the offseason. Wonder if they’d rate Mayfield high enough to take him in the first round.

    Or look at Rudolph wherever he goes.

    • AlbertInTucson

      McCown was going head first for extra yards.

      • BearDown100393

        How many QBs injured this season primarily from NOT sliding feet first to give themselves up?

        • Malice Halice

          Wentz injury was inevitable, that dude was running reckless out there.

          • BearDown100393

            Not the only one

    • What McCown has done this yr in my book is amazing.

      The Jets were supposed to have a Browns like season. Many experts saying they wouldn’t even win a game.

      They have MUCH less talent than CLE in fact.

      And McCown went toe to toe with the likes of the Pats, Falcons, Panthers… somehow BEAT the Eagles, Jags and Chiefs and made Andrerson into a near PBer.

      Hats off to McCown.

      Should’ve kept him when we had the chance in retrospect.

      • BearDown100393

        McCown is just good enough to lose against good teams and give you a fighting chance against poor ones.

      • BerwynBomber

        Might also say something about Bowles. Maybe the dude has it as an HC.

    • Rudolph is grade to go in the top 10 for sure.

      Mayfield will be an interesting case.

      Many don’t think he has an NFL arm, and some don’t kina like his personality.

      It’ll be interesting to see where

      Pre-Wilson/Brees, he would’ve fallen to the 2nd or 3rd for sure.

      But now – who knows?

      Although Wilson’s arm was never in question.

      Brees might be a more accurate comp.

      • Juan Stone

        If Clevelands tradition continues, the Browns will prolly take a flier on Mayfield.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Manziel, part Deaux?

          • Juan Stone

            Al… there can be only 1 Manziel. Lol

          • AlbertInTucson

            Not if you are the Browns.

      • BerwynBomber

        I like Rudolph if only because if one of those big pure pocket guy hits you’re set for nearly 15 years. But I haven’t heard first round for him. Then again, can’t say my ear has been on the draft express tracks.

        Agree that Mayfield gets a better look because of Brees and Wilson.

    • Juan Stone

      For McCown, at this stage in the game it’s just another succesful year growing the next generations trust fund. I’m glad guys like him are able to make a long term career out of the sport.

  • BearDown100393

    “Bears town”

    – 2018 Redemption

    Memo to Pace: Get your draft picks a kick a** coaching staff.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      So serious question. Are you just resigned to the whole thing, or are you seeing the value of the young players on this roster? Your tone is markedly different after yesterday’s game.

      • BearDown100393

        Great question. I really dug yesterday’s effort. I watched guys fighting hard to complete plays and appearing to want to be a part of the answer for next season. I watched Mitch complete throws to Shaheen, Howard continue his bowling ball act and Cohen get into the endzone (don’t care both were called back…). Regardless one way or the other, this will be the Bears future for at least 2 more seasons with Pace. I hate losing. I hate permissive defensive attitude towards losing perhaps even more. I look at Hobo et al. as a problem and not a solution. I want Pace to find a solution. His tenure rides on MT’s success or failure. Of course I want this to all work. But not in 10 years. I want results now. This season was largely a waste – Giraffe’s signing and not firing Hobo cast a shadow over Pace IMO. He was hired to dig this franchise out of a hole, not make it deeper. And the chasm seemed to be gaining depth. I don’t care about the Bengals injuries or the short week. So what? They got their rear ends handed to them at home. The Bears played 4 quarters finally on both sides of the ball. The offense finally showed a kill instinct and delivered. Huge credit to MT for yesterday. Because I do believe he has received nil support from Hobo and squeezed whatever could be gained already by Birdcage. It is time to move forward with better coaching personnel. I want the best available on that sideline next season. I want the Bears to be the even better version of the Rams. I’m tired of losing. I’m tired of the excuses behind that losing. Get it done already!

        • Juan Stone

          Who ever thought Glennon was a bridge QB should be ashamed of himself. How in thee heck does that happen? It’s beyond pathetic.

          • BearDown100393

            I gave that guy a chance. Jeff was dead on right about Giraffe from the beginning.

          • Juan Stone

            I gave the guy a chance as well because I trusted the staff. Boy was I misguided. It’s not an encouraging sign that the staff that signed Glennon can turn this team into a winner. There has to be a back story on that one, just has to be… right?

          • BearDown100393

            I have no idea. Dreadful decision and a stain on Pace’s resume.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            There is a pretty large scale conspiracy theory floating out there that it was a smokescreen to draft Trubisky. I call bullshit there.

            I think Pace had his eye on Trubisky, but needed a “guy” to let the kid mature a bit. The FA market was pretty thin, and he took a swing. Giant freaking swing and subsequent miss. That choice, and Connor Barth are my two issues with Pace. The rest is just ordinary fare. You win some, you lose some.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I am just glad that Pace structured Glennons deal to basically be 1 year. It would suck if we had an Oz type contract to deal with for a couple years. So yeah swing and a miss, but not much harm done with Glennon. Barth on the other hand is just unacceptable. Too many swings taken on that guy.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Even if you buy the smokescreen theory, paying Gummo 18M was insane. You offer him 10, what’s he gonna say?

          • AlbertInTucson

            I think Tampa offered him that to back up Jameis.

          • willbest

            Jets were rumored to be in the 10-12 range too I believe. So 16 mil with 18 guarantee seems nuts, but then maybe the Jets were offering 15-20 mil guarantee too.

          • willbest

            I like my theory better.

          • willbest

            Pace’s mistress is Mrs. Giraffe. It was an embezzlement racket, plus it got her up to Chicago

          • Juan Stone

            It had to be worse than that.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, it is tremendously poor pro scouting. Some of us here were fooled by his Cutty-like #s at TB. But that is no excuse for a pro scouting department.

          • Juan Stone

            Pace’s version of the “Bay of Pigs” botched invasion?

          • BerwynBomber

            It’s certainly no Iraq War screw-up. Glennon should be gone after this year.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          My concern has been that we’re/they’re missing the big picture.

          I’d hate to “throw the baby out with the bath water” so to speak.

          I believe the Bears are on the cusp. I believe the right coach, and one more round of player acquisitions, and the Bears are a contender. Perhaps not for the Super Bowl, but certainly the division. And so we go from there.

          I believe Pace is talented. His first draft certainly has some question marks on it. But it was his first draft. The obvious signs of talent yesterday in the young core give me hope.

          I would hate to see Pace fired, when I believe phase one of his vision for returning the Bears to respectability, is nearly complete. If he goes, we reset the clock. And there is no reason to assume the next guy is better.

          No. I say we ride with Pace. I believe the pieces are in place for an exciting 2018.

          • “If [Pace] goes, we reset the clock”

            Not necessarily.

            The next GM wouldn’t be burdened by any long term Pace FA acquisitions, so no real salary dump or ill-fitting overpaid vets.

            Next GM could hire his own coaching staff.

            Could keep working on scouting and medical depts.

            I was gonna write this thing about “bridge GMs”

            Pace could be a “bridge GM”

            Someone who has built a decent (not great) foundation which the next GM can take to the next level.

            Now, the danger with a new GM is that he can be worse than mediocre, then we’re back to square 1.

            But sometimes you gotta move on from Andy Dalton-eque talent (evaluator) if you wanna truly contend.

            Not saying Pace is the Andy Dalton’s of GMs, but look at his FA class this yr alone.

          • SC Dave

            Dunks was great because he built great organizations, most important of which is a solid scouting team.

            Has Pace done this?

            There is evidence to suggest so.

          • Evidence to the contrary also exists

            (White, Grasu, Kwiat, Bullard…) to say nothing of his FA busts (Glennon, Royal, Wheaton, Simms…)

            That’s what I mean. Not great, but like 3rd yr Dalton.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            You’re holding Kwiatkoski AGAINST Pace?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Damn straight. Everyone knows all 4th round picks should be future HOFers. Simply unacceptable to be just a JAG.

          • That’s the thing.

            It’s not expected. It’s avg to find JAGs in the 4rth (Amos is close to that too)

            It’s exceptional to find Kam Chancellors in the 5th.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Kwiatkoski and Amos are, at worst, a non factor in this kind of discussion. I’d say they’re both closer to being a bump in Pace’s favor if anything.

            They could also just be simply a testament to how shitty the roster was when Pace arrived, contributing to the fact that they both start. At minimum, they’ll both be excellent depth if they don’t stick as starters.

          • Kwiat would be behind Jones, Timu and Anderson if not for his draft status.

            He seems like a bust to me.

            Pace didn’t draft Jackson then sign Demps for nothing.

            Amos looked like a JAG all last season.

            That’s not even including White and Grasu (3rd rder) or dudes like Hall, Carson…and Bullard hasn’t done much either.

            You can say…well, ALL GMs miss in the draft.

            True. So he’s avg and replaceable if that’s the argument.

            So why not try to shoot for better than avg?

            That being said, I think his last two drafts are trending in the right direction, but then you add his sub-par FAs, keeping both Fox and Barth for too long, and oh yeah, the Glennon debacle, and suddenly Pace ain’t looking like the terminator.

            Like I said, I’m agnostic about Pace.

            If another GM comes in with a sterling rep and impressive plan, hey – maybe take a shot.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            He’s a 4th that starts on a budding defense. And he was missed when injured. I’d call that a win.

            Bullard has shown flashes too. Not uncommon for defensive linemen to take a couple years to get there. Especially so in the third round and beyond.

          • willbest

            Is that the Eddie Jackson rule? That kid looks legit.

          • Irish Sweetness

            It’s funny. Everyone thought we sucked before Cincy. But nothing has changed. We beat a bad team missing its secondary and Vontaze Burfict.

            Mitchell was let off the leash, that was what changed. Then JH has a career day, go figure.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            I haven’t changed my position. I believe the building blocks are in place. I did Sunday morning.

            Where I was wildly wrong, was regarding Fox. When the preseason becan, I assumed he could still coach winning football. I was dead wrong.

  • Dis Guy Trublinsky

    Earlier in the season, I openly mocked Trubisky’s play fake. It was terrible.

    Yesterday, he scored a rushing touchdown, largely because his fake was excellent. My eyes followed Howard thinking he had the call. Instead, Mitch runs in for an easy score.

    He’s apparently working on the small stuff along with the big stuff.

    • BearDown100393

      It was perfectly executed.

    • I was gonna post on the game thread how relaxed he looked in the huddle.

      His demeanor was just diff from the previous games.

      And even tho it wasn’t the most hostile environment, still a road win.

      His 1st i think, and a dominant one at that

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        relaxed in the huddle. Maybe it is like that kid in school that was always jittery and could not sit still, come to find out that the kid just wasn’t being challenged enough with the school work.

      • BerwynBomber

        He was excellent of what I saw in his progressions. But as others noted he had a super clean pocket. At times it seemed there was a five yard radius/invisible shield around him, which is odd given that CIN has a couple of talented D-linemen.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          the problem a lot this year has been too much pressure up the middle. Every QB will say they don’t want pressure up the middle. With Grasu playing in a couple games, Long playing way too injured, there was a lot of pressure up the middle. I liked what I saw with Compton in both the run and pass blocking.

          • I mentioned this before, but the current staff has done well with OGs.

            Long/Sitton are talented. OK.

            But lesser talented guys like Slauson, Kush and even Larsen have played better than expected, and maybe Compton will keep it going.

            Leno and Massie also aren’t complete disasters.

            Now there’s only so much magic they can pull off (fucking Grasu), but I wouldn’t mind the Oline coach and scheme staying.

  • Juan Stone

    Well…. what the heck…

  • Wow. So Wentz’ ACL popped, but not on the hit.

    NFLN reports that his ACL gave on the step before he lept into the endzone and got smacked.

    That means that both Wentz and Watson essentially ripped their ACL on non-contact situations.

    The good news for both is that no MCL/LCL damage since it wasn’t contact.

    Bad news – well – besides being out – the likelihood of another ACL inj occurring goes up according to medicine (and not necessarily the inj knee either).

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah. A shame. Both guys showed so much, especially Wentz.

      Ah well. It’s the NFL. The shield chews them up and spits them out and moves on.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        Not surprising. A guy that big that, that moves like that…… well that’s a whole lotta torque.

        • BerwynBomber

          Agreed. His agility was freakish for his size.

    • Irish Sweetness

      (shrugs)

      They ask for those injuries. Walter never got one because he exercised properly. Bad training.

      • CanadaBear

        Walter was a freak of nature. Yes he was as well conditioned as any athlete in the league back then but luck is still involved when it comes to those kind of injuries. Some big bastard hits you just right and …

    • Pretty Boy Assassin

      After years of Cargo getting injured and nobody giving a shit about us, I have very little sympathy for QB injuries. Less so for the Cheese…even if that fucker was on my fantasy squad.

      • willbest

        I don’t feel bad for the Eagles. I feel bad for Wentz. The kid was starting to look special. You have to enjoy greatness when you see it. Now maybe he taints that by being a giant douche Rodgers style, but even then you can still appreciate what Rodgers is capable of doing.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    FF note. I am up 17 points. opponent has Dion Lewis left. I am a little nervous. I have never trusted NE RBs in FF but one of them has always put in a big game against me in the playoffs.

    • Is your league standard?

      Cuz barring Bellichikean shannigans, I think Lewis will hit 100 yds, 4 catches, 20 yds and MAYBE a TD

      (if Burkhead doesn’t vulture)

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        standard scoring. Just worried they will get up against MIA and then run out the clock.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Lewis 5 points
      Burkhead 12 points
      White 4 points

      Points are interchangeable week to week.

  • Cutler looked sharp first drive.

    But I think MIA is the last in RD Zone TDs.

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    Does anyone else feel inebriated in a different dimension seeing Cutler change from wearing Bears blue to Dolphin aqua?

    I haven’t seen him play live this season until now.

    I seem to have the urge to yell “CUTLERF*CKER!!!” each time he throws the ball.

    • fishing florida

      Seeing him brings a stirring in my loins. he is by far my favorite Bear of all time. i would pound his ass in a heartbeat. oh damn I am getting a little flustered. I will be back.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        I’m sure there must be a very, very sad Tampa Bay stalker that feels the same way about Glennon.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Watchin’ MNF and puttin’ up the Christmas Tree.

    Train tracks have already been put down, of course.

    • AlbertInTucson

      3 rows of branches done. Time for a break.

    • willbest

      wife: what are you getting me for Christmas
      me: well I was thinking about a pair of earrings, but then this red light infraction came in the mail, so I was thinking about just making you square with the city of Chicago instead.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Tucson outlawed the traffic cameras.

        • willbest

          I think Chicago sold the revenue from its traffic cameras to the Chinese for the next 100 years in exchange for filling a 1 year 200 million dollar budgetary hole. So if we outlawed traffic cameras the city would probably owe the Chinese like $300 million dollars.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I think Tucson is the Red-Light-Running capital of the free world.

          • Give her some bit-coins.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Euthereum!

          • Unobtanium?

          • AlbertInTucson

            What does a red light ticket go for in Chicago these days?

          • willbest

            $100. I believe that is the legal maximum in the state of IL they are allowed to charge when there isn’t an officer pulling you over.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Wow.

            I think Tucson clipped a friend of mine 3 bills for running a light.

      • Pretty Boy Assassin

        Cold. I like it.

      • BerwynBomber

        The City is actually reimbursing me a hondo and some change due to the traffic camera settlement last year.

  • I like Cutty’s pump fake when he’s like 1yd away from the first down marker lol

    That defender looked like he was gonna go low.

  • Pretty Boy Assassin

    Come on, Cargo. Throw the Pats D a couple of picks for old time’s sake?

    (I’ve got the Pats D)

  • BerwynBomber

    Brady looking very un-Brady like. Could have two INTs already.

    Jay playing okay thus far.

  • Dis Guy Trublinsky

    Pace’s 2017 draft has a chance to be very special. Just saw a snapshot on Facebook of Trubisky, Cohen, Shaheen and Jackson together.

  • BerwynBomber

    Fantastic play by Jay on 3rd down there. He is really balling tonight.

    Excellent schemes by Gase too.

    This NE D looks like it did at the beginning of the year.

    • Cutler is playing great tonight. Accurate. Poised. Moving just enough.

      He’s hit guys on the hand who have just dropped it.

      Gase is attacking the Pat’s D like the Pat’s attack.

      Spreading them out then Isolating LBs to cover HBs staying away from their CBs.

      Smart.

      See how they do after half-time adjustments.

      • BerwynBomber

        But I would say he has only completed one pass — that fantastic RZ play on 3rd down — under pressure. Everything else has been a clean pocket.

        Brady OTH seems under pressure every other pass.

        Thing is, MIA has some individual talent. Suh, Timmons, Wake, Alonso, etc.

  • BerwynBomber

    Watching the four-letter flounder in the social media and individual sport network age has now become an exercise in predictability.

    An Aaron Boone interview at halftime to pump your lame SVP Show? Yikes.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I saw something called “The Herbies” listed on one the other 4-Letter outlets.

      Sounds WAY to much like an STD but I assume it’s “awards” given out by Kirk Herbstreit.

      They sure gave you a primo time slot, Herbie, up against MNF.

  • BerwynBomber

    Brady gets crushed on 2nd down. Throws his second INT on 3rd down.

    • willbest

      Bench him. Bring Hoyer in.

  • BerwynBomber

    That INT somewhat showed Brady’s age. He was a superb deep ball throw when younger.

    That ball took forever to get there.

    • willbest

      Was it you who was pointing out that Bree’s long ball didn’t look like it used to either on TNF?

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, Brees looked game manager-ish to me. Very few vertical passes.

        He’s still top five in efficiency but you can see it winding down.

        • AlbertInTucson

          The Saints come at you with that 2 headed ground game.

          Remember, NO TD passes for Brees in the win vs. the Bears.

          • BerwynBomber

            But he played well against us. 23 for 29. No INTs (or passes in harm’s way). 299 yards.

            It was actually Ingram who kept us in that game. A couple of times.

    • It def hung and the CB ran under it.

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Father Time Is Undefeated” – Charles Barkley.

  • beninnorcal

    That last pick(although underthrown) was one of the nicest int’s I can remember.

  • Perfect throw by Cutler.

    • willbest

      knob slobber

  • BerwynBomber

    This MIA D has been as impressive as Cutty.

    Does Gronk matter that much?

    • willbest

      Gronk requires 2 people. So you can take one of those guys and send him at brady now.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Patriots looked bad in the first half last week.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Anyone else feel like the Fins will find away to lose this, despite Brady’s struggles so far.?

    • willbest

      Is there any doubt?

    • BerwynBomber

      I don’t see it. There is not a single thing for NE to hang their hat on.

      And apparently Brady has struggled — well, by his standards — in MIA over his career.

      • willbest

        sure, but as a counter. Super Bowl 51.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Nope. The Pats don’t do so well in Miami.

  • beninnorcal

    The Patriots don’t look the part of nfl’s best in this game, on either side of the ball.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I keep waiting for the Dolphins to commit that momentum changing turnover.

      • beninnorcal

        You’re right but the Fins continue to have a really nice game, led by none other than Smokin Jay

    • AlbertInTucson

      Based on what they have shown thus far, I’m sure The Steelers would like to play them tomorrow.

  • beninnorcal

    This game is quite a satisfying watch so far.

    • AlbertInTucson

      No argument here.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Patriots miss Martellis Bennett.

  • AlbertInTucson

    That ball was not catchable. Call should have been defensive holding.

  • BerwynBomber

    Statistically, this might end up as the best game of Cutler’s career. Someone check on Waffle.

    Btw, interesting in that Cutty’s two best games this year have come at night. He played well in that loss to the Raiders too.

  • BerwynBomber

    After three quarters, Cutler with a rating of 137. Brady with one of 39.

    #sports

  • BearDown100393

    Miami faaaaaaaaaaadddddddddddddddiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggggg

  • AlbertInTucson

    If I am a Miami fan, I am very, very nervous.

    • BearDown100393

      A typical Fish fan is already heading for the exits.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “It ain’t over ‘til it’s over”- Lawrence Peter Berra.

    • BearDown100393

      Miami does not put up points on this possession, they are kaput.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Gotta figure 27 will not be enough.

        • BearDown100393

          Agreed.
          Not likely.

  • AlbertInTucson

    That key turnover is still lurking somewhere out there, I think.

  • BearDown100393

    “Just Jay Cutler ripping the Patriots a new one…ho hum…”

    This may haunt.

  • Wow. Cutler almost threw his patented Fat Guy INT.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Unwise move by Wise.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Looks like Jay could have run for that.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Instead, they give the ball back to the Pats and stop the clock, too.

    • He def could’ve.

      Cutler has played well.

      But it’s crunch time.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Just more yards for Brady to rack up.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Miami stop.

    Surprising.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Kenyon Drake.

    Who knew?

    Apparently, Adam. Gase.

    • Yeah, I don’t know about that.

      It took Gase like 5 games to figure out Ajayi was good last season. Then Ajayi had like 4 games of 200 yds carrying them nearly to the playoffs.

      And he didn’t trade Ajayi this yr do to talent, but “character”.

      But, sometimes better lucky than good.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “Rather be lucky than good”

        My FF team motto.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Cutler couldn’t have HANDED the ball to Grant any better than that.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Patriots 31-27 or do they need OT?

  • Jordan Phillips was on MY NT radar along with Malcom Brown (Pats) the yr Goldman got drafted.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Wow.

    An OFER on 3rd downs for NE?

  • McDaniels calling a stupid game.

    Refuses to recognize that Cook is covered like white on rice. Still keeps throwing to him in empty formation when Lewis has been by far their most explosive weapon.

    Good call, McDouche.

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    Patriots lose this game as a sacrifice to the gambling Gods. They have one or two games like this every year in exchange for playoff success.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Another ball in a bad spot.

    The hands.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Plenty of time.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Desperation throw.

  • AlbertInTucson

    But Wake never did get near Brady on that 3rd down, Jon.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Now, I think Miami will have to help NE.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Huh?

    • AlbertInTucson

      Sorry. I make them use that last time out.

      • Def.

        Sometimes going conservative serves a purpose.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Patriots kind of returned the favor by not getting another play off before the 2 minute warning after the completion to Cooks.

  • Great call, Gase.

    Save the Pat’s a TO

  • AlbertInTucson

    I don’t much watch the SVP SportsCenter but I did enjoy his radio show.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Don’t Touch Tommy” call.

    • willbest

      He is 143 years old in football years.

      • AlbertInTucson

        HAH!

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        he’s looking like bad Peyton under this Dolphin pressure.

        • willbest

          Everybody is allowed a bad game. He prior to this week he is averaging something like 110 PR this season.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Hogan on my bench.

    Didn’t think he would play.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Achilles irritation. Nothing serious.”

    Uh, Tommy, at 40, it sure IS serious.

    • willbest

      I am sure his wife will just buy him a new one for Christmas. She is sweet like that.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Good night, Patriots.

  • AlbertInTucson

    I AM surprised.

    Last week I never expected the Bengals to hold on vs. The Steelers.

    Tonight, I fully expected Miami to find a way to blow this one.

  • willbest

    Fins scored 27 points. The Pats last 3 opponents scored 28 points combined.

  • Pretty Boy Assassin

    Fantasy post
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    Unfucking real. I lose on the Pats D putting up 2 damn points. And he had the Eagles, who had a NEGATIVE SCORE until the last minutes of the game until a garbage pick 6. Fuck you, Rams. I hope you lose in the 1st game unless it is the cheese (heaven forbid).

    • AlbertInTucson

      Ouch.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Dude, if you have the Pats D ……

  • AlbertInTucson

    Switching to the end of MY FAVORITE YEAR on TCM.

    Funny movie.

    • CanadaBear

      I recorded it and will watch it this week. Really funny in parts.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Alan Swann (Peter O’Toole): “Audience?! I haven’t played in front of an AUDIENCE in TWENTY-EIGHT years! I was a butler. I had ONE line! I FORGOT it!”

    • EnderWiggin

      Is that from “High Spirits”?

  • Trub and Wright outplayed Brady and Cooks.

    Go figure.

    • AlbertInTucson

      That’s why they play the games.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Cooks was damn near invisible.

      • CanadaBear

        That young CB with Miami schooled him every time it was man-to-man coverage.

  • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0
    • Dude, Is that chick superhot or what?

      Deum.

      There’s some girls on the local networks here in L.A. that are pretty hot.

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVmNj0bWsAAAA49.jpg:large

      (the one who doesn’t look like she got her bachelors)

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        the guy in the background of that picture looks like he just got caught jerking it.

    • willbest

      did word get out that she had a magic vagina or something? She is okay looking but how d id every guy in the office end up sending her naked pictures of themselves?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Because they’re all SCUMBAGS. Freakin’ scumbags. Puppies with three pricks!!
        Hasn’t anyone here got daughters?

        (blog explodes in laughter)

  • EnderWiggin

    FF: Highest scorer this week? The guy in the consolation bracket…

    • You are a consolation beast!

      Man, every time I play Artoo everything goes wrong with my team.

      Damn u Ertz!

  • Irish Sweetness
    • willbest

      if all men did this, no man could be accused of scumbaggery. it would just be the way it was.

      • Irish Sweetness

        They should reward and highlight good men. “ESPN today awarded X an all-expenses holiday to Aruba for not making obscene gestures to a colleague in 1997. X also did not fondle the breasts of the makeup department, nor did he ever expose himself to a 14 year old intern in 1999, or has he ever been questioned in relation to any sexual offences.”

        • willbest

          So like everybody I do business with. In the real world its like 5%, but in the entertainment business it looks like its about 50%. Which begs the question, why does anybody take any advice on morality from them?

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    FF: Woohoo! on to round 2. I kind of feel sorry for my opponent. This is the 3 time I beat him this year. The first time I beat him so bad that he re-upped with the Army. The 2nd time I beat him he got himself shipped off to Jordan. Not sure what he is going to do this time to try and avoid the trash talk.

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