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Three Thoughts For a Practice-Less Day in Bourbonnais

| August 1st, 2017

Kevin White, Struggling?

Adam Hoge is not an alarmist. So when he opens a column with Kevin White’s early “struggles” there is reason to pay attention.

“He’s not where I want him to be or where we need him to be,” Bears wide receivers coach Zach Azzanni admitted Monday. “He’s a work in progress. He’s had a good three days. Good first day, OK second day, much better today.”

Azzanni was just referring to the three days since pads went on and Sunday’s quiet practice prompted the wide receivers coach to pull out some of White’s tape from West Virginia.

“He forgets about (West Virginia) sometimes because of the battle he’s had the last two years,” Azzanni said. “I wanted him to see how he used to go up and just grab that ball out of the air and he’s starting to do that again. I know he had a drop in one-on-ones the other day. The other thing is, he’s a prideful kid and he lets that beat him up and you cannot do that.”

White needs two things: (a) sustained game action and (b) success. And I’m a believer that achieving a will directly lead to be b. But tentativity from a player like White is understandable when he must be thinking that every cut in the middle of the field could be the one that ends his season. White’s not going to be confident and explosive on Day 3 in Bourbonnais. The Bears need to hope he is both of those things come Week 8 in New Orleans.

The One Throw Column

There’s a new trend developing with camp coverage across the league. Because media is limited to both what they’re allowed to see and what they’re allowed to cover – Pat Finley has resorted to drawing plays on what seems to be napkins – writers are turning in copy wherein they draw major conclusions from minor moments. Rich Campbell did so yesterday in the Trib, writing about singular moments from Glennon and Trubisky.

You can’t blame him. He’s got a job to do. He needs to turn something in. But as I wrote last week, fans need to be wary of this kind of writing. The Bears are not showing those attending in Bourbonnais a single relevant thing. Not one. It’s the equivalent of going to an unchaperoned shoot-around for an NBA team in the middle of the day.

“Hey, he’s athletic!”

“Hey, he’s got great touch from three!”

Poppycock. It’s not real until it’s real.

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  • SC Dave

    Kevin White – Pace’s first first-round bust?

    • ch0rn

      You gotta give him 1 more year before you can label him a bust. The guy has only played 4 games so far. If he plays 16 games this year and has 1,000 yards receiving, people will start to forget about the first 2 years.

      • CanadaBear

        You don’t know Bear’s fans if you think they will forget about White’s first two years. They never forget anything bad when it comes to the Beloved.

        • Corporal Clott

          Correction, they never forget a bum. Big difference.

        • True. But no fan was expecting to contend for the SB the past two yrs either.

      • Irish Sweetness

        That’s fair. Plus, it’s a full year more to evaluate Mr. Pace’s contribution, his faith in KW, and we’ll see where Mr. Not-Deshaun-Watson is at.

    • BearDown100393

      If there is no significant progress in productivity this season? Absolutely.

    • Corporal Clott

      No, just typical Bears karma.

    • Tortured Bear fan

      he can quadruple his statistics this season, at least.

    • StarkyLuv

      He can’t be a “bust” when he’s barely played. Injuries do not make one a “bust”.

      • CanadaBear

        If he never gets on the field again for the Bears I’d say that’s a bust. Tough luck for sure but still a bust.

      • SC Dave

        Of course they do. Your statement is silly.

      • Carimi was a bust, right?

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Angelo never had any busts

  • BearDown100393

    “The Bears are not showing those attending in Bourbonnais a single relevant thing.”

    Fox and gang had the nerve to do the same thing last year at Soldier Field also.

    • Irish Sweetness

      There’s a gazillion routes. Can’t they run some that they’ll never use … wait … didn’t Papa Bear say ‘you should practice like you play’? So if he was here, he’d say …. practice like you play. Not ‘hit the shit out of everyone’ … run the plays in practice that you’ll run during the season. It’s obvious and logical. Practice makes perfect, right? How can you call a play in a game when you haven’t practiced it multiple times – a special formation or whatever?

      Practice like you play. Papa Bear said so.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Training camp raining lamp.

    New feature on the Blog ….. Tuesday’s Tits!!

    https://themostperfecttits.tumblr.com/

    • CanadaBear

      Bless you, my son!

    • Bender McLugh

      so needed this offseason, nicely done

  • CanadaBear

    Have to laugh about Jeff knocking the Bear’s writers for praising Glennon. His rationale is they have such limited access their opinions could be flawed. From my point of view limited access is better than no access (as in writing columns from the East Coast).

    • SC Dave

      Yet despite that access more limited still, Jeff can confidently tell the world that Trubisky is better than Glennon.

      Twitter. Say no more.

      • CanadaBear

        I get that Jeff has to generate clicks but …

        • Corporal Clott

          Jeff walks somewhere between the cat walk and the wild side. I haven’t quite figured it out yet.

          If he’s right about Trubinsky starting, we’ll never hear the end of it. Personally, I’m only interested in this team learning how to win and being able to see them actually do it. I could give a rip who the starting QB is, so long as who ever it is, he gives this team the best chance to win now.

          • SC Dave

            Depends on the cost. But I agree that the Chicago Bears need to learn to be WINNERS again.

            Damnit!

          • Irish Sweetness

            What happens if Trubs starts, and then -as one could only imagine he would – he shits the bed AND screws the pooch.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Time to stop drinking, again.

        For good.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I can say that. Glennon sucks to begin with

      • Irish Sweetness

        There could be no way Trubs is better than Sanchize or Gummo right now.

        Then again … if he starts from week one … we get Sam Darnold.

        Hey ….

        START MITCHELL!!!!

  • BerwynBomber

    White might still be salvageable as a big/possession/3rd down/RZ receiver. But the all-world guy Pace thought he drafted is probably gone for good. A pipedream. Hopefully, though, the kid can stay healthy and contribute.

    • CanadaBear

      This article about KW is interesting and alarming. Holy Crap, the young man has zero confidence in himself or his abilities. Hopefully I’m reading too much into it.

      http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-bears/self-confidence-101-bears-sending-kevin-white-back-college

      • BerwynBomber

        I imagine two successive injuries like that could shell-shock a kid from a confidence standpoint when he has no NFL success to fall back on; i.e., probably natural that it would spook him.

        So just come back and try to stay healthy — or at least avoid the season-ending type. That and don’t start him (if he makes the 53) unless we absolutely have to. In other words, bring him along as slowly as possible.

        • Joe Anderson’s Dad

          You know that my boy Joe would be out there playing with confidence and fire and not worrying about tomorrow.

        • SC Dave

          Similar scenario to Rex Grossman, no?

          • BerwynBomber

            But Grossman’s injuries weren’t nearly as career-threatening as White’s.

          • SC Dave

            They also came at a time when ability to repair was primitive compared to today.

            One of Grossman’s plusses (IIRC) was mobility. Getting two consecutive season ending injuries could not have helped his ‘escapability’.

          • BerwynBomber

            Grossman was never that mobile. Average. Not much more. Even coming out of college.

            And his season-ending injury his rookie came late in the year and was a broken finger, correct?

            Just not near the issues White is dealing with.

          • SC Dave

            Yes, but he barely played as a rookie. I think he played about six games his first three seasons.

            I suppose one could have hoped he would have been “groomed” over that time, but it WAS the Bears, and we had no Sanchez equivalent.

            Oh well.

            Edit: I’m not disagreeing, BB. Just elaborating my p.o.v.

          • BerwynBomber

            No worries. I may have sold his mobility a bit short. And yes Grossman obviously had some bad luck with injuries early. But again, don’t think they were quite on the level of White’s, for if no other reason than the demands of the different positions they play/played.

          • CanadaBear

            I thought I remember him getting his knee injured against the BiQueens in the last game of the season early in his career. Before that he moved around decently. No track star but he had some awareness and could move (not unlike Cutler). After that injury he was pretty limited mobility-wise. At least that’s how I remember it.

    • SC Dave

      It would be good if he actually earned a roster spot for the first time.

      But I sincerely doubt he’ll ever be as good as Alshon, let alone Marshall.

      While it’s good to have multiple big RZ targets, word is Sims has good hands, Shaheen catches everything, and we know that Meredith has plenty of potential there.

      • CanadaBear

        Don’t know what to do with him. They hope the light comes on and he stays healthy. He could still be a good WR. Unless he gets hurt again, I’m guessing he gets a 4th year and no 5th year renewal. Hard to walk away when guaranteed money is involved.

        • SC Dave

          I think the light is on, Canada. He kept saying now is the time.

          But maybe he lets the light blind him rather than light the way to success.

          I dunno. But I do know I would like to see him be successful. In the only uniform that matters.

          If Alshon destroys the league for/with Carson Wentz, I will be irritated.

          • CanadaBear

            If Alshon stays healthy, big if, I see no reason why he won’t have a really good year with Phil. Really a pisser but it was obvious he wanted to move on.

        • AlbertInTucson

          “The light is on but nobody is home.” …?

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Kevin White, Struggling?”

    THAT should surprise NO ONE!

    • CanadaBear

      Feel bad for the guy but time marches on.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I wanted him to succeed, of course, but the real news would be

        “Kevin White Wows” or such.

        “White struggling” ranks up there with all the ESPN non-news that “Tiger Woods will not play…” in this or that tournament.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      BRAVERMAN TIME!!!!

  • “The reports of his demise have been greatly exaggerated”

    Chill, Winston!

    Hey, maybe White is going through that Rocky 3 self-doubt. You know, when he’s running on the beach with Apollo Creed and he just stops.

    But hey, Rocky trained hard and came back, biatches! (spoiler alert)

    #RegainDaSwag

    Also, gotta remember that White was compared to Demaryious Thomas. An athletic freak with limited route tree.

    It took Thomas like 3 (healthy) yrs to round into form (and that was WITH Peyton).

    White has essentially been on the bench for two yrs.

    I can’t find the article, but I remember Pace quoting a stat that pointed out that White was not only athletic, but he had like the highest catch % of any 1st rd WR (including Cooper).

    A WR can’t just forget how to CATCH, right?

    It’s sorta like a boxer with power. You either got it or you don’t.

    The rod may reduce him from Julio Jones tier, but maybe he can at least be Rod(dy) White?

    TBT

    Draft Profile

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/kevin-white?id=2552422

    Highlights

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpNVPq2XUKo

    • Hmmm. I guess this “lack of confidence is nothing new”

      Weakness… White came into West Virginia with very limited confidence, according to
      team insiders, but when he left, he had realized his rare talent…

      Crazy. The way he played, never think he lacked confidence.

    • SC Dave

      The one catch he made against Dallas looked like something that would have made Alshon smile – i.e. just taking the 25/75 ball and using your 25 to make the catch.

      They ought to show him that play – “look, you little (well, kinda big) fuck. You can take anything you *want*. Just go want”

  • I see Jeff is still at it.

    “If defense is better and run game is better, why fear playing the kid?
    Where is this weakness that’s going to get him killed? Doesn’t exist.”

    Lemme try this analogy.

    If you’re 16 yrs old, and all you have driven thus far is go-carts at the local Golf-N-Stuff, you DON’T enter the Indy 500.

    No matter how great the car or technicians.

    THAT’S the weakness.

    • Corporal Clott

      The team situation dictates who starts. Had Orton started over Grossman in the Superbowl, the Bears would now have 2 rings.

      • BearDown100393

        At least 5

      • Johnnywad

        That is probably the most ridiculous post I’ve seen.

        The Kyle Orton everybody was clamoring for back in the day when he started in lieu of Grossman, threw for 1800 yards in 15 games or something like that. Let that sink in. 1800.

        1800.

        Kyle Orton was good at one thing. Not throwing the ball to the other team. That’s it. That’s a nice tool to have in the tool box. But that ain’t winning you multiple Super Bowls. Not with Tommy Harris and Mike Brown in street clothes. No way.

        • SC Dave

          The Bears would NOT have beaten Seattle with Orton, and probably not New Orleans. And we’d never have seen Urlacher hoist the Halas Trophy in Soldier Field.

          • Johnnywad

            Grossman certainly had his flaws. But he was better than Orton

          • Irish Sweetness

            Did you watch the Arizona game?

            It’s hard to say that Rex Grossman was better than anybody. I’d take Kyle any day of the week. If he was better, then why did they keep Kyle?

          • Johnnywad

            Yes. I watched the Arizona game.

            As for the second question, let’s not pretend Angelo is the gold standard for measuring QB talent.

          • CanadaBear

            The Sex Cannon was the public whipping boy for idiotic Bears fans. When they boo your first incompletion in the first pre season game, it’s a bad thing. Orton was horrible with the Bears. The Bears won when Orton was in there because the D and ST’s were off the charts. You know this.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Come on Dave. Rex Grossman beat Seattle with his special non-powers?

            21/38 282 yards

            1TD 1 INT…..
            QBR 34.6 … PR 76.9

          • Johnnywad

            That’s three games worth of yards for the Bears version of Orton.

        • Corporal Clott

          If Jeff can do it so can I. Nya Nya Nya na na na! Lol

          • leftcoastdave

            If the dog had not stopped to take a dump, he would have caught the rabbit.

            Jeff is setting himself to say, “I told you so.”

            If his is wrong, which I expect he will be as usual, nobody will notice.

            But if he is “RIGHT” this time, there will be no end to it.

          • SC Dave

            Well, he has to recover from his endless advocacy of Cutler somehow.

        • BerwynBomber

          Orton was Hoyer before Hoyer. He arguably wasn’t as good. But it is probably a coin flip.

          • Orton was NOT as good.
            His throwing % was like 58%.

            That’s like Tebus but without the running.

          • BerwynBomber

            I’d lean Hoyer too but remember we are talking slightly different eras. And even a decade will have some effect on the standard/mean for QBs. Hence, Orton’s 58% might translate to 61% these days. (Or something like that.)

          • I considered that, but Hoyer hit 67% with ZERO Ints and a 98.0 passer rating while only taking 4 sacks

            (to put that in context, Cutler had 2 INTs and 4 sacks – including a safety I think – in ONE game last season)

            Orton’s last year he posted a 58% comp% (his rook was 51%) and 79.6 passer rating

            Now, that being said, it’s debatable if Orton could’ve Dilfered into a SB, but I still contend he was inferior to Hoyer and maybe about even with McCown and Barkley given the totality.

          • Irish Sweetness

            How many games did Hoyer win?

            How many games COULD he win … playing the percentages and never throwing any ball where it could help his team?

            He was the anti-winner.

          • Irish Sweetness

            58% completions tells you nothing.

            Again, go look at John Elway’s career stats and tell me what stats mean.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Does Brian Hoyer hold the record for most completions in a game to one receiver?

            Does Brian Hoyer hold ANY records (that are good)?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Dream on.

        Benson still comes in and fumbles.

        Ron Turner still keeps calling for deep throws in a driving rainstorm.

        The Colts still rush for 200+.

        • Corporal Clott

          Haha. Thanks for slapping me awake Al. Jeff’s rubbing off on me.

        • BerwynBomber

          Lovie keeps going with his D game plan over Rivera’s.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Well, Kyle plus more TJ … plus Tommie and MB …. definitely.

    • CanadaBear

      It’s almost like saying, “What’s the worst that could happen?”. Never, ever ask that question. You almost always get an immediate reply.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “People told me, ‘Smile, things could be worse.’, so, I smiled and , sure enough, things got worse.” – Pvt. Rodriguez, THE D.I.

  • Malice Halice

    KW ain’t done yet, 1 of da WR’s or DB need to start some beef wit em or something get him riled up n shit. I’d be cautious to, shit! I tweaked my knee a few times in school and I was nervous as fuck to hoop again. But KW career is on the line here and I feel like as SOON as we drop him. Da fucker gone join the cheese n break franchise records.

    • BearDown100393

      Break is a good bet.

  • BuddhaJoe

    If the Bears are out of playoff contention by week 8 or so and the O-line hasn’t gotten anybody killed yet than go ahead and throw Trubisky in there. Until then, it would be basically chucking the season and you can’t do that to the vets on the squad if you want them to play hard.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Do we use to Trubs to tank for Darnold??

  • King of DBB

    https://www.nflpa.com/importance-workers-comp-illinois-senate-bill-12

    No mention of George wanting this and the NFLPA fighting the Bears

    • SC Dave

      Their example of the coach on the sideline is comical. They cannot be serious, right?

      • BearDown100393

        Didn’t a coach not long ago tear a knee ligament in a sideline collision? Just asking.

    • Corporal Clott

      George don’t care, he figures he’s got nuttin to lose.. I doubt this will even show up on the average fans radar.

  • Irish Sweetness

    DaBearsBlog
    @dabearsblog
    Why do you keep calling it “rushing”? He’s the second pick in the draft.

    Only because Ryan Pace MADE him the second pick in the draft!! And by all accounts he would not have been the second pick had we not sold off part of the farm ….

    Being the second pick doesn’t mean anyone is ready. I don’t get Jeff’s blinkers on this. The management who drafted him have said he’s not ready. HE himself has said he’s not ready. The fans know he’s not ready. I don’t get it.

  • EnderWiggin

    Matt Barkley has more receiving TDs than Kevin White.

  • Irish Sweetness

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    Also, 6 weeks until the season opener against Atlanta.
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    > No. 6 weeks until the opening winner against Atlanta.

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