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Six Thoughts on the Bears Head Coaching Position in 2018 (Based on Actual Reporting)

| November 28th, 2017


Spent all day Monday reaching out to every single contact I have in the NFL. All four of ’em. Why? Because I was angry, frustrated, tired of writing about a losing team…etc. I figured I could only spend so much time yelling at my cats about the Bears’ misuse of Tarik Cohen so I might as well use the energy for good. Here’s what I know.

(None of this is based on guesswork. This is stuff I was actually told.)

(1) There is a roughly .01% chance of John Fox being the coach on January 2nd 2018. Ryan Pace will hire his replacement.


(2) There was consideration given to firing John Fox after the Green Bay game but ownership/Pace don’t believe there’s a good interim option on the staff. This includes Vic Fangio who, I’m told, would not be super keen on the assignment and has turned down extension offers from the team to stay on as defensive coordinator.


(3) George McCaskey idolizes how the Giants and Steelers are run and has decided to emulate their approach. He does not want to fire a coach in-season. This does not mean he would never do it. But, honestly, emulating the Giants and Steelers is never a bad thing, folks.


(4) If Fox loses this week to the 49ers, don’t be surprised if his tenure ends Monday morning. If he loses to the Browns on Christmas Eve, he won’t coach the finale. I don’t know why so much emphasis is being put on two meaningless games against awful opponents, other than their being at home, but that’s what I was told.


(5) I asked two bigwig personnel men (and friends) to rank the following prospective openings: Browns, Bears, Giants, Bengals, Colts, Bucs. Both…both…put the Bears at the top of the list. It should be noted that they are Trubisky fans and both expressed concern about Andrew Luck returning to previous form. Any coach that believes in Trubisky is going to see the Bears as a team ripe for a quick turnaround.


(6) Quote from a source: “Ownership does not blame Ryan for the Fox hire. It made sense to everyone in the building at the time. They were all enthusiastically on board.” This confirmed to me what I’ve always been told: ownership never thrust Fox onto Pace. He wanted a coach he wouldn’t need to keep tabs on as he went through this process for the first time. It turned out to be a mistake.

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  • KentuckyBearsFan

    There’s a drunk I’ve seen who looks a lot like John Fox.

    …but for some reason I seem to think everybody has seen a drunk who looks like John Fox coaching a live game.

  • Derek Price

    Very informative and in some ways reassuring for Bears fans, even those of us in places like Sydney waiting for better times. These sort of articles are worth staying up late to read and digest

    Still like to think there is a move to reinvigorate the coaching staff and a younger coach with offensive credentials should be high in the list

    Anyway thanks Jeff, now to sit back and wait for the change of direction so badly needed after the past 5/6 years in particular

    • Jared Sanderson

      Agreed, Living in Brisbane and waking up at 4am every Monday to watch the games has been hard to do in recent times with lack of growth in the team. Fingers crossed for a new start that works.

  • beninnorcal

    I worry because the next staff may believe in running a 4-3 defenesive front, because that would mean starting from scratch again. Not that I don’t like 4-3, but more that we’ve been gearing towards 3-4 these last couple years.
    I was never a big Fox guy, but how many teams have suffered this many key injuries 3 years straight in the modern NFL?
    I contest that our season looks very different if we still have our starting ILB’s and our starting WR’s, not to mention everything that’s happened at OL.
    But we are probably losers either way, da bearss..

    • Bear Instincts

      an hc/dc looking to switch the defensive front is disqualified

      • SC Dave

        Wasn’t last time. Zero reason to assume it this time.

    • ButtonShoes

      Whoever ends up being the new DC will have to run a 3-4. Simple as that. If they switch us back to a 4-3, that sets back the team even farther than it already is. So I don’t think it will happen. But since you can never doubt the Bears’ ability to screw things up, I can’t rule out them doing something as stupid as hiring a guy who will switch us to a 4-3.

    • In a 4-3, Goldman would be the nose, Hicks the 3T, and Bullard one DE. Trevathan the MLB, Floyd the SAM. They would need a DE (instead of an OLB) and a WILL.

      I’d prefer sticking to a 3-4, but it’s honestly not a huge deal at this point IMO.

      • CanadaBear

        Wouldn’t it make more sense to put Floyd at WILL since he’s the only LB that can get home?

        • Maybe, but Floyd is pretty similar to Anthony Barr, who’s the SAM in MIN. SAM is more of a blitzer, Will is more of an in-space guy (that’s the spot Briggs played, whereas Sam would be more of the Roosevelt Colvin gig).

          I don’t think it’s ideal to take your best pass rusher away from mainly rushing the passer, but he could be a really good 4-3 SAM, IMO (I also think that’s Christian Jones’ best spot in an NFL defense).

          If they could get Kwiatkoski or Jones to play the WILL, they really would just need 2 DE instead of 2 OLB for the 3-4 next year. But the investment in Floyd as your premier edge is the biggest thing locking them into a 3-4, IMO.

          • Agree about Floyd.

            Turning him into a SAM (which is kinda what Fangio has done a lot this season with him anyways, dropping him into coverage a lot) isn’t why Pace drafted Floyd.

            Any GM can draft a good SAM beyond the 1st rd.

            Floyd may not have the girth to play RE in a 4-3 either. Typically those guys are psychical freaks like Pep – 6’6ish 270 +

            They don’t look like WRs.

            However, Floyd might be able to play in in 4-3 9wide DE scheme.

            Those guys have a lot less run responsibility.

            If we got to a 4-3 though, we’re gonna need an upgrade at 3T and maybe even ILB.

            That’s the heart of those Ds.

      • Hicks is 6’5 320

        That’s NOT a protypical 3T (see Tommie Harris, 6’3 290)

        Bullard actually would project more as a 3T (6’3 290)

        I think he gained some mass for this season, but his natural weight is closer to a 3T.

        The Dline would look something like

        Hicks-Goldman-Bullard-LE

        (Need a LE, could be Young/McPhee/Draftee)

        LEs don’t have to be otherworldly in a 4-3 just solid (Onguley/Brown types)

        All this also depends on what TYPE of 4-3.

        A Chico style, or a more attacking blitzing style.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          didn’t Young play LE when he was with the Lions.

          • Yes, he played DE, and I think it was a wide-9 scheme with Scwartz.

            That’s why at first he was reluctant to stand up, but he eventually got the hang of it, which is rather impressive.

            Most of those guys 4-3 DEs don’t have the feet/eyes to stand up and still be effective (see “awareness”)

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            he’s getting old but would at least give us depth or someone solid at the position.

          • I think a lot of these guys are gonna be gonna no matter what D

            McPhee, Young, Cooper, Acho, Freeman, Unrein…maybe even both Prince and Fuller

            Luckily we still have some core players under contract, so they can’t bolt, like Goldman, Tre.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I would have assumed Hicks was a nose.

          Good news that Flaccid Fangio isn’t sticking around. Good riddance.

          • Hicks is that rare breed who’s built like a NT but still gets pressure

            The next DC can pretty much move him around across the line, but I think Goldman will be the NT and Bullard will get first crack at 3techDT if indeed they switch to that.

    • Big Mike

      With starting WRs, ILBs we’d be 5-6 or maybe 6-5 and we’d still be in what I call the “competitive” portion of the season, which is what it is all about. I hate the offseason with all the evaluation of 20 year olds and draft build up. When it starts 8 weeks early it’s just brutal.

      Starting over with a 4-2 would just suck ass.

    • It’s a lot more complicated than just 3-4 vs 4-3

      Fangio’s 3-4 is close to a 4-3 under.

      What does that mean?

      Well, if McPhee (6’4 280) puts his hand in the dirt, that’s basically a 4-3.

      Floyd is now the WILL, Jones the MLB, Kwiat the SAM.

      McPhee will likely get replace anyways. But him as DE is not a stretch.

      Floyd at WILL or SAM in a 4-3 would be a waste though. He’s there to get sacks, and he does that best on his feet.

      However, say Scwhartz comes on board and installs a wide-9 – Floyd would be isolated wide on an OT, which with his speed might be very disruptive.

      In the secondary, Fangio’s 3-4 teaches trail tech.

      Now, it depends what kind of 4-3 the Bears theoretically go with , but let’s say it’s a zone heavy D.

      Well, first of all, we’re not really pot committed to ANY of our CBs.

      But Fuller was originally drafted for a 4-3, and he may be better in zone a la Peanut.

      Prince played both I think.

      Callahan I think can play both man and zone, like a lot of Nickles

      So no overhaul there.

      The safeties…well

      Amos I think would be better in zone. He’s NOT a cover SS.

      He’s more in box or zone, and having the play in front of him would suit him best so he can crush them

      Action Jackson is talented enough to play both (and in Alabama, I think they ran a 4-3. Saban likes flexibility anyways)

      And we still have what’s his name at SS injured who can play both.

      So I don’t think switching to a 4-3 would be much of stretch.

      Esp since we’re going to be replacing a lot of guys anyways (if Young sticks, that’s another 4-3 DE)

  • Bear Instincts

    1. firefox and done with it already

    2.screw you fangio for not wanting to come back

    3.less talk more action george because we are a long ways away from being either of those two teams

    4.the last games matter because the organization has some kind of pride. not sure where but they seem to have it. it must be the old lady

    5.the prestige of the bears has been sullied and run low for some time now but we will always be an attractive coaching destination

    6.everyone will be bringing their a game during the interview. pace needs to be able to sniff out the real from the fake

    • ButtonShoes

      When you look at 5., that doesn’t mean the Bears are an attractive destination. Note the two people Jeff asks are Trubisky fans. The attractiveness of the Bears is in direct relation to how many people like/believe in Trubisky. And there’s no way for us to quantify this.

      • BearDown100393

        “sources”

        Because I always like the Bears.

    • SC Dave

      1. Ain’t happening.

      2. He is done with a loser franchise

      3. The whole point is that you don’t take an action such as #1.

      4. I agree. But the most important thing is the youth learn how to win games.

      5. Frankly, I don’t know why it would be considered attractive; there are 20 franchises I’d take over the Bears.

      6. Always true in hiring.

      • willbest

        But none of those 20 franchises are going to be available.

        • SC Dave

          So what? It’s not like the guy should need to work.

    • BearDown100393

      I cannot blame Fangio for not wanting to stick around.

      And that tells me more than enough about current state of affairs instead of futuristic rainbows and unicorns.

  • ButtonShoes

    “George McCaskey idolizes how the Giants and Steelers are run and has decided to emulate their approach.”

    You are not John Mara or the Rooneys.

    You are George McCaskey, a fucking loser from a family of fucking losers.

    You aren’t emulating shit. You know nothing about football. Deal with that and accept it.

    Sell the team, George. Do the city and the fans a favor for a change. Take the money and go.

    • BearDown100393

      Ricketts figured it out.
      Rocky figured it out.
      McCaskeys don’t caaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeee bothering to figure anything out.

  • Juan Stone

    The Bears remind me of the once great Sears and Roebuck Co.. The only thing left for the McCaskeys to do is close the doors. Sell… sell… sell…

  • #5 is key here. Bears have a young QB who the NFL was VERY high on last year (he was the consensus #1 QB in the draft) and a fair amount of young talent across the roster, especially on defense. That’s an appealing situation that should let them have their pick of coaches.

    • What do you make of Fangio not wanting to be interim or wanting to be extended as a DC? (if true)

      • Irish Sweetness

        He can’t do the job???

      • I have no freaking clue. I have no sources, so I’m not going to pretend to know what’s going on there

  • Big Mike

    It wasn’t just my eyes. “According to ESPN Stats & Information, Trubisky has thrown off
    target on a league-worst 26 percent of pass attempts, contributing to a
    league-low 52.8 percent completion percentage.”

    • ButtonShoes

      Yup. The one thing that he’s supposed to be good at – being accurate – is not something he’s good at. So…yeah, that’s not great.

      • Yeah, that was one of my original worries about Trub.

        All the scouts kept saying he throws with touch and anticipation, and I didn’t see it on a consistent basis.

        What I saw in his college tape was a QB who waited for his receivers to get open, then he would fire it in ala Cutler.

        Trub did show arm and touch, but if the pocket collapsed or if the D disguised and confused him, that went out the window sometimes.

    • SC Dave

      Yup… he has been awful.

    • Scharfinator

      Let’s hope new coaching fixes that. I’m not holding my breath though.

      • SC Dave

        I remember in the preseason how excited everyone was, and that accuracy transcended the fact that he was playing against guys not in the NFL. Not.

        • evantonio

          He was playing against guys that weren’t in the NFL. But he was also throwing to guys not in the NFL.

          It’s a shame that he’s still throwing to guys (who should) not (be) in the NFL, while the defenses are real.

          • Scharfinator

            That certainly doesn’t help him. How much does that affect his accuracy stats? IE Does the WR missing a route count as an errant throw if MT puts it to a spot?

          • SC Dave

            I would assume they are more careful about it than that. For example, counting things like plays 1, 2, and 4 here are what gets counted as misses.

            https://scout.com/nfl/bears/Article/Chicago-Bears-All-22-Lab-QB-Mitch-Trubisky-from-Week-6-Part-I-109068561

          • evantonio

            Those are certainly misses, but if a WR runs a 15 yard curl when he’s supposed to run a 12 yard curl, that pass coming up short (presuming he’s throwing to a spot, and not the man) would be counted as inaccurate.

            At least I would presume it would. I have no hard data to back up the assertion.

      • Big Mike

        Our QB is inexperienced, but he makes up for it by being inaccurate.. SMH.. can only hope he gets better.

        • Bear Instincts

          He is a rookie with 13 starts

          • Big Mike

            I will excuse your assumption that I just showed up. I understand in great detail Trubisky’s draft profile, college experience and have watched every preseason and regular season down he has played. We knew experience was his issue. Limited # of starts, very few high pressure situations, etc etc. But his accuracy, football IQ, work ethic, athleticism and the “IT” factor made him worthy of the 2nd overall pick of the draft.
            Right now he is the least accurate passer in the NFL. What that means is that his inexperience is impacting his mechanics.
            Get Outlook for iOS

          • Bear Instincts

            inexperience is impacting his mechanics

          • Big Mike

            Didn’t I say that?

          • Big Mike

            Didn’t I say that?

        • leftcoastdave

          Yea, but if he throws twice as much, there will be twice as many catches, right?

          Like losing a dollar on each sale and making it up in volume?

          • Big Mike

            My opinion is he’ll look better the rest of the season. Hoping he takes that big step over the off season into next year.

          • Bear Instincts

            I’m not so sure Mike. I think he will look like he has looked every game: good at times and bad at times. Expectation will/should be different next season after he has had an entire offseason/camp/preseason to prepare

          • Big Mike

            Level of competition will improve his game greatly. Amazing how that happens.

          • Big Mike

            Should make a big jump, unless we broke him.

    • Ososfan

      Check from the pre-season till now, his footwork has gotten worse he had steady feet before I don’t know what’s going on, his throws like ok like ducks out there now…

      • He’s lost confidence and is trying to do too much.

        That’s what happens when a QB is on a losing team with little talent and idiot coaches.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yah, he’s definitely a different QB. Way more accurate PS and made better decisions too.

      • Big Mike

        Defenses are faster, teams are game planning to slow him up by shifting and disguising coverages. 2-3 clicks to read the whole field, find a receiver, determine where ball should meet receiver and execute the pass. It is amazing that NFL QBs can do that. The best are accurate and get it done in less than 2 seconds. They’ve seen it all before, they prepare and prepare and prepare. But that preparation is layered on experience. Probably why the Bears didn’t want to play Trubisky. They were probably right. It’s not like we wouldn’t be 3-8 with Glennon starting. Now he’s picking up bad reps. We’ll see how it goes won’t we.

    • Said PS that Trub could be the next Dak or could be the next Locker.

      Right now, he’s looking like the next Locker.

      • Big Mike

        Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

        Get Outlook for iOS

      • Irish Sweetness

        Dak is looking like the next Locker right now!

  • Papa Pawn

    Former Bears coach Marc Trestman was named the CFL Coach of the Year for the second time in his career. His Toronto Argonauts won the 105th Grey Cup Sunday night with a 27-24 victory over the Calgary Stampeders. Trestman previously won a Grey Cup in 2009 and 2010. The Argonauts were 5-13 last year. -Biggsy

    • SC Dave

      Must be something in the water up in Ontario.

      CBear, can you shed some light on this?

      • CanadaBear

        The CFL is largely an offensive game. Nessman is good at O. That’s all I’ve got. Pretty sure the rosters are younger than in the NFL and young players might be more willing to listen to the “grow the man” speeches. NTM, Calgary is. becoming the Bills of the CFL. They have been in the Grey Cup numerous times recently, been favored every time and blew the last 3 Grey Cups they were in.

        • I actually think Trestman’s “build the man” schtick would work in college too.

          On professional grown men with CTE, not as much….

        • Scott Langbauer

          Nessman!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    • BearDown100393

      Different game. End of story.

  • SC Dave

    For all the excitement about Chuckie, he ranks a bit down on this list:

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/

    • Irish Sweetness

      Another ten years and Bellifat will be closing in on Shula!

  • RedBulls83

    3 & 4 contradict each other.

    Anyways, blaming it all on Fox doesn’t add up to me anymore. I don’t like Fox and want him gone for sure (actually wanted him gone last off-season), but Pace shares blame here. He needs to be better at his job. 12 wins in the last 3 years combined so far, and this team doesn’t look like the arrow is pointing up.

    • Adam Truelove

      No they don’t.

    • SC Dave

      Actually, 3 & 4 do not contradict each other. Not *wanting* to fire someone, and having to do so, are different things.

  • Papa Pawn

    Two stories on Score:

    1. 5 Bears, all unnamed, seen at Philly club on Sunday morning at 2am before noon game

    2. Press overheard shouting and screaming at Halas Hall, again parties unnamed, yesterday

    • ButtonShoes

      This team is a shitshow. Every time you think you can’t go any lower, this team finds a new rock bottom.

    • CanadaBear

      #1 wouldn’t shock me. If that’s true, nothing like getting the shit kicked out of you while you have a hangover to make you argumentative and testy! Although unnamed people in stories from anonymous sources is pretty sketchy to say the least.

    • Juan Stone

      Hey, if you’re only in town for a football game, might as well have a good time. He he

    • Irish Sweetness

      People drinking (1 + 2) is a story?

  • MikeL

    I think he viewed this job as a semi retirement., but nobody looked worse than Lovie Smith coaching

    • evantonio

      slept through the trestman years, eh?

      • Scharfinator

        Yeah, holy shit did I miss Lovie when we had Crypt Keeper running things.

    • ButtonShoes

      Someone doesn’t remember Dick Jauron or the walking catastrophe that was Wanny.

  • BerwynBomber

    #2 is troubling, #4 weirdly annoying and #6 interesting.

    Why would management wish to foist Fangio on a new HC? That is insane. If you think that highly of Fangio then offer him the HC job for next year. But already picking out a potential new HC’s staff for him? Yeesh ..

    The time to fire Fox in-season was after the Brett Hundley game. But after a potential loss to SF or CLE? Meh. It’s a bit like a father grounding his son for missing a half day of school when three weeks earlier he totaled the family car, received a DUI and earned no home punishment. Once we let Fox slide after the Brett Hundley game probably a good idea to wait till Black Monday. Otherwise our priorities look fucked up as well as any philosophy or principles we might have.

    Interesting that Fox was indeed Pace’s choice. If so, it somewhat takes the McCaskeys, Acorsi and Phillips off the hook.

    • ButtonShoes

      If Fox was Pace’s choice, that just damns Pace even further in my eyes.

      • Bear Instincts

        there was a wink and a nudge to take Fox. plus Fox was coming out of Denver. He looking like a steal at the time. Hindsight is 20/20

        • ButtonShoes

          White Lovie didn’t look like a steal to me. He looked like a re-tread. And in fact, he’s worse than Lovie. At least Lovie knew how to string together a 7-9 win season.

          • Bear Instincts

            who was a better option at the time than Fox the brought immediate credibility?

          • ButtonShoes

            I don’t know if he brought credibility, but I thought Dan Quinn was a pretty good option.

          • Bear Instincts

            this is your first test as a gm. you want to do a good job and impress the bosses. i understand why he went with fox. it looks bad now but i understand it. all will be right with the world once he fires fox and hires harbaugh. no one has give a legit reason to not hire harbaugh. whats up with that?

          • ButtonShoes

            Well I don’t think you go too wrong with either one. Who knows if they want to come up to Chicago though. And with Jim, he wants to be a GM/coach, so I doubt Pace would be happy with that.

          • Bear Instincts

            jim is a coach and nothing more. he needs to cut that gm crap. if he want to step out of bounds then we move on to the next best option…who is the next best option anyway?

          • ButtonShoes

            If not Jim then John, I guess. Honestly I’m not sure who the next best option for HC is. Someone with a track record of running successful, modern NFL offenses. Most likely an OC who calls the plays. And I would disqualify anyone from the Belichick coaching tree. Those never work out.

          • evantonio

            Dave Toub.

          • ButtonShoes

            Indy. Indy.

          • evantonio

            Watch them go 19-0 next year.

          • Scharfinator

            Think Mich will can Harbaugh? I can’t see him choosing to leave – but they did lose to their rivals this year and had some underwhelming performances.

          • Bear Instincts

            i hope they can him. jim is the holy grail for da bears at this moment. anything less is a participation trophy.

          • BearDown100393

            Toub

          • evantonio

            But Ernie Accorsi said it was the right move.

            ERNIE ACCORSI!

    • willbest

      They aren’t allowed to just make Vic the HC. They have to interview a minority first. Although his DC contract could have been written with an out if he isn’t made HC, so he really has decided its time for a change. I wonder what his plans are.

      I agree with you on your analysis as to why punish him now, but the first time Fox totaled the car was his insistence on keeping Glennon at QB1 for 4 weeks. Or not even having a genuine camp competition to begin with.

      I find #6 hard to believe. And troubling if true.

      2015
      Jan 2 – Dan Quinn interviewed
      Jan 3 – Adam Gase interviewed
      Jan 6 – Lake Dawson and Brian Gaine interviewed
      Jan 7 – Chris Ballard, Ryan Pace interviewed
      Jan 8 – Pace hired, Bowles interviewed
      Jan 13 – Teryl Austin, Doug Marrone interviewed
      Jan 14 – John Fox interviewed
      Jan 16 – Fox hired

      So Pace had zip prep on Bowles and really just observed the meeting, and never met Gase or Quinn.

      Now Gase and Quinn were in the middle of the playoff hunt, but there wasn’t any rush on Fox. He could have waited to interview those two himself. Worst case scenario is he would have had to wait until Jan 25 to interview them again and it turned out Quinn was available 4 days later.

      So if #6 is true that means that Pace was too impulsive and just wanted the HC search over after conducting 3 proper interviews.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Why would anyone just make him HC though? What has he demonstrated other than the ability to oversee a toothless defense.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I don’t understand how Pace gets off the hook for Fox. He picked the wrong coach, definitely picked the wrong DC, and may have picked the wrong QB – he certainly picked the one that was least ready of the two.

  • BearDown100393

    Jason Garrett

    • evantonio

      You misspelled Dave Toub

      • Bear Instincts

        this made me laugh

      • ButtonShoes

        If he goes anywhere, it’s Indy. Ballard will give him a shot there.

      • Ososfan

        Hahaha

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      Jason Garrett is 63-52. 1-2 in the playoffs with 0 Super Bowl appearances.

      When the Bears hired John Fox he was 119-89 for a higher winning percentage than Garrett has right now. He also won two conference Championships.

      • BearDown100393

        Dallas is a cesspool

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          And if true, your plan would be to hire the guy in charge of that cesspool?

          • BearDown100393

            Jerry Jones runs the cesspool.

            He worked with Romo. And he is working with Prescott. Dak has stepped back this season – no question. But Garrett is a seasoned, offensive minded, relatively young and might be a good match with Pace. He is by no means perfect but overall probably does as good a job as anyone as HC in Dallas under Jones.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Garrett is doing better than Jimmy Johnson with his 2 SBs or Barry Switzer with his 1 SB. Interesting….

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Ok. I’ll buy that. That’s reasonable enough.

            I’d prefer somebody we don’t have to tag with “He is by no means perfect” before we even fire the existing staff though.

          • BearDown100393

            Who is perfect though?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Don Shula in 1972.

          • willbest

            He is only 87, bring him in!

          • BearDown100393

            lol you win.

  • Bear Instincts

    https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2017/11/28/16705860/ten-thoughts-on-the-nfl-los-angeles-rams-chargers-chicago-bears-green-bay-packers-houston-texans

    5a) Also, Packers fans are really pissed off about their team. They want the head coach and GM fired, and while listening to Milwaukee sports radio the other day, the hosts were talking about trading Aaron Rodgers to help with the rebuild.

    • BearDown100393

      A Giraffe in Green Bay would solve a lot of problems.

  • BerwynBomber

    Off topic for a moment …

    … truly wish the NFL would institute an NBA-like draft lottery. A team like the Browns should not be rewarded for their ineptitude every May. At the same time I understand the league wishing to promote parity and not have, say, NE with the #1 pick.

    So institute a lottery for the worst 16 teams (or even all non-post-season teams) and base their odds on their W-L record. Thus, CLE would still have the best odds to land the #1 pick but it would be far from a guarantee.

    • BearDown100393

      The Browns suck in the draft.

    • Malice Halice

      Real shit. I been complaining about that since da beginning of the year. 2 1st’s n 4 2nd’s! I’m sorry but they don’t deserve all dem picks I don’t give 2 fucks about how they attained those picks.

      • BerwynBomber

        I don’t mind that they acquired picks — and some were probably from the Wentz deal. But automatically locking up the #1 overall is a bit annoying.

    • willbest

      It sucks but
      1) NFL talent is a lot harder to judge than basketball talent
      2) An NFL player (outside QB) is less important to the team than any given BB player.

      • BerwynBomber

        Of course. Well-known. But it would still be a fairer system. And it also mitigates the possibility of tanking and the reality of tank rooting.

        • willbest

          How do you know though? I could swear the Jets were tanking and yet they are 4-7, and I would have loved if their QB1 was our starter this year. I didn’t think the Browns were. They made moves to shore up the O-line, picked up some D talent, took another crack at a QB, etc. And yet they are 0-11. The Browns aren’t intentionally bad, they just manage to find new ways to be bad every year.

          Look at the Giants, some people had them as a sleeper playoff team.

          San Fran is the only team that went out and decided to suck and followed through on it.

          Incidentally, the draft itself is inherently unfair to the players, as is the salary cap. Why shouldn’t they be allowed to sign with whoever they want for however much they want. Could you imagine an accountant draft with a wage scale?

          The whole point of the system is to maximize competitive play under the theory that competitive play increases eyeballs and increasing eyeballs generates more revenue for everybody. Yes tanking creates uncompetitive games, and it can even have a profound effect on a league with only 16 regular season games in terms of playoff seeding. However, as long as the system sufficiently discourages it, you won’t have GM’s deliberately doing it.

          So the question is, are teams tanking in the NFL, and are they able to mask that they are doing it signficantlly better than the NBA. Also, does it work? Which teams have successfully pulled off the tank? The Rams? But it didn’t look like they were tanking.

          And do you need to go to a full blown lottery? How about you lose your second round pick if you don’t win at least 1 game, and your 3rd rounder pick if you don’t win at least 2 games. Basically if they want #1 overall that badly, make them “trade up” for it. It also puts those teams in a situation where if they want more picks they will need to trade back to acquire them.

  • Fisherman695

    Superman can be Bears coach , they need some good players to work with, that on GM! Go with young guy 35-50, good background with winner like Pitt., NE,GB, or check out a couple of college coaches, no more old recycled coaches. Jim Hardbaugh would be a good hire.

  • Fox was a good hire for where the team was after Trestman debacle. But he coaches like he has the 85 bears defense. Other coaches adjust to injury losses, Fox does not. Fire them all except Pace.

    • BerwynBomber

      Agreed. Fox served his purpose. But that purpose ran out after year 2.

      Pace should have canned him then and brought in a new HC and a rookie franchise QB at the same time.

      • Big Mike

        Normally the hope would be to transition to a new staff without taking a step back. But in this case, there are no steps behind us. Expectations on the next coach are to make the damn playoffs. 10+ wins has to be the mindset. None of this first year mulligan we’re rebuilding, we’re implementing new shit. Get it done. YR 1. Big Mike out

        • Bear Instincts

          damn!!! mike is laying down the law!!!

          with the right coach 10 wins is very realistic. we have some talent and we will add to it in FA and the Draft

          • Big Mike

            From my keyboard to Papa’s Bears ears.

          • Bear Instincts

            Bear Down!

        • CanadaBear

          I agree with ya but this roster (esp with all the injuries) isn’t going to get to the playoffs even with good coaches. Way too many holes on the roster being filled with injury-prone players. If things fell the Bears way next year I’m guessing 8-8 is about as good as can be expected. Pace has a ton of work to do this off season.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Jimmy Mac as HC. 16-0
            {sorry letting my inner Irish get the better of me}

          • Big Mike

            🙂

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’d be down with that. It would get in the way of his golf and weed though.

          • Big Mike

            I don’t agree. Our defense is right there. Offense plays a little better defense will be even better. Our OL is a strength. RB a strength. TE has promise. It all comes down to Trubisky and the WRs
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          • CanadaBear

            We’ll have to agree to disagree. I think the roster is meh at best. Lots of JAGS and the better players are all getting injured every year. Here’s a list of unsigned players on the roster.

            The following players will be unrestricted free agents next year, among
            others: Cunningham, Unrein, receivers Kendall Wright, Josh Bellamy and
            Dontrelle Inman; offensive linemen Tom Compton and Bradley Sowell;
            linebackers Christian Jones and Sam Acho; cornerbacks Prince Amukamara,
            Kyle Fuller and Sherrick McManis; and kicker Cairo Santos. Wide receiver
            Markus Wheaton, linebacker Pernell McPhee and offensive lineman Bobby
            Massie may be under contract but don’t necessarily have secure futures
            in Chicago beyond this season, either.

            I’m assuming most of them won’t be back or back at the Bears price. The only ones listed that I would try to re-sign are Inman, Jones, McManis and Santos. If Fuller or PA were reasonable contracts, sign them. Since they are CB’s probably won’t be reasonable. The backups should be resigned if they are cheap. Otherwise, most of those guys listed above will be gone. I can’t imagine McPhee or Wheaton will be back.

          • Big Mike

            Every free agent is a guy we can resign or upgrade. Money isn’t the issue. Cap space isn’t the issue. I’m not sure why you would assume the ones we want wont be back. But when you’ve won 12 games out of your last 43, who cares if your guys leave, because they were part of the problem. Kendall Wright would hopefully simply fighting to make the team, Josh Bellamy shouldn’t make the team, Dontrell Inman is a guy I think they re-sign, There are Comptons and Sowell’s available everywhere. Sign them, sign someone elses backup. Jones probably knows he’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer. He’s just getting the hang of things. Which goes out the window with a new defensive coordinator. His price or expectations might be too high, Sam Acho- replaceable, Prince Akumura I think Bears resign him. Fuller is a question mark. I think he stays. McManis has proven he’s a special teamer. Be nice to keep him, doesn’t kill us if he walks. Wheaton.. if he thinks he’s got a better shot at PT anywhere else off you go. McPhee is done. All heart no legs.

            Mostly we have some nice parts. But the Bears can re-target the ones they want and upgrade the roster in spots. What would be worse, is being locked in to long term deals with the cast of characters. In that regard, Pace has done a good job of buying time. You can see his plan, even though injuries and Glennon f’d it all up. Put a decent product out there, turn over the roster, get a QB, get a new coach and build from there. Sure he would have liked it to work out better with Fox. But for Pace this is either Plan B or Plan A-1

          • CanadaBear

            Maybe it’s because of all the losing but I have zero optimism for this team. Until they get over .500 I’m going to assume another losing season is on the horizon.

          • Big Mike

            I refuse to accept that answer :(.

          • CanadaBear

            I get that but it’s doesn’t change anything on my end. Everybody was giving me the gears about my 5-11 prediction this year.

          • Big Mike

            I had 7 wins. I expect the progression to continue.

          • CanadaBear

            You and I are pretty much on the same page but you are much more optimistic than me. I used to be (20 years ago).

          • Big Mike

            This has to be our time.

          • CanadaBear

            Don’t really think our OL is a strength. Maybe when healthy (whenever that is), Howard is a good one-dimensional RB. Who knows about Cohen? Cunningham is a decent change of pace guy. The only promise at TE is if Shaheen pans out. I’m way less sure about the D than I was a month ago.

          • Big Mike

            OL is solid. Sitton, Whitehair, Long. (long is playing on on 1 leg and with 1 arm). The Tackles are fine, but you can always use a better LT. (slide LT to RT) . Getting and keeping the big dogs healthy is a big deal for every team. Can always add some guys and let them compete to get on the field and as depth. Unfortunately, Grasu is a bust. Word from some guys around the team is that he just can’t add strength. He’s maxed out.

          • CanadaBear

            I agree with ya about the interior OL but I’m not sure Kyle will ever be Kyle again. Grasu is awful. That pick was worthy of Emery.

          • Big Mike

            Kyle long needs this offseason to heal his leg.

          • CanadaBear

            And both hands and get surgery on his torn labrum.

          • Bear Instincts

            switch Long to Center and Whitehair to Guard

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            while they are at it might as well move Trub to WR, Sitton to RB, Cohen to LT.

          • Bear Instincts

            if the injury to long is significant and he can no longer do his job them salvage him at center where can be an anchor for years to come

          • Big Mike

            People think that Center can just be picked up. 1) Kyle’s never played center, 2) he’s got a hand injury on his snapping hand. 3) he’s an all pro Guard.

          • I would put Sitton at C.

            He’s a vet. He’s played it before.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agreed. The OL got the shit kicked out of them at PHI but generally they are an above average group.

            My theory is that if you have 3/5 of good OL you are generally ahead of the curve, and we have that in Sitton, Long and Whitehair. And Leno, IMO, is serviceable.

          • There’s ONE elite LT in Connor Williams, Texas.

            BR mocks him to us.

            I think Pace may very well go that way if we’re in the top 5.

            If he does, I think Connor would start at RT and then if he’s good enough, switch to LT.

            The problem is, Leno SUCKED on the right side if I remember correctly, so, have to figure that out.

            Anyways, waaaay too early draft talk, but worth musing since this season is dogshit.

          • Big Mike

            I don’t recall Leno being terrible on the right side. If he was, it is one of two things. He didn’t rep that side all offseason or he simply can’t rewire his technique. It is in my view harder to switch sides than it is to go from tackle to guard. Guard to tackle doesn’t happen because of the physical attributes required of a tackle. Side note. The fact that Kyle Long switched from, G to T in one week is simply mind blowing. At an elite level D1, NFL, there is so much technique relating to Leverage hand placement, counter moves, footwork that have to happens instinctively in milliseconds. It’s like asking a right handed boxer to be a southpaw, or even simpler writing with the opposite hand.
            Anyhow, if we could grab that guy it would be great. Who knows. We need a guy that lives up to being a top 10 pick. You pray your top pick doesn’t get busted up and become a bust.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I think if you want to build a wall, and we should, then you need to invest the top two picks in tackles.

            A better O-line is better for our D, better for the boy. End of. We’ve ignored it for too long … let’s build the wall.

          • Scharfinator

            I think the players are better than they’ve been playing. Are they really good? I don’t know. But they’re starting to check out – they have to be.

          • Was watching the Ravens game and Chucky kept pointing out all these 2nd yr players making an impact for them.

            Then I got thinking, what sophmores are making plays for us?

            Howard has been somewhat hurt early on. I think he’s serving court, but can’t say he looks better than his rook yr

            Whitehair somehow looks worse. He struggled mightily esp early on, but maybe he’s getting into the flow

            Bullard has been invisible (glute?)

            Floyd looked good, but he didn’t become Mack or Clowney like some were hoping.

            Kwiat looks like a JAG who would be behind Timu if not for his draft status.

            Have Bush, Hall or Deondre Carson even played?

            Braverman – plz.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Yes please bring back BRAVERMAN!!!

          • He’ll be easy to find.

            Yellow Pages

            A-R-B-Y-S

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            You keep getting it wrong. Jimmy Johns, subs so fast you’ll freak!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Yah, he was branch manager at a Papa John’s, but …

          • He dropped the (matzah) ball

          • Irish Sweetness

            With you on Kwiat. There’s a teeensy weensy chance that he picks it up …. but he doesn’t look like a linebacker.

          • Big Mike

            When used properly (threat of pass) Howard has shown he can be dominant. Results might not be the same, but neither is what the Bears are doing offensively. Whitehair was playing hurt with two strangers on either side of him. An o-line needs cohesion. That’s why a busted up Long is better than whoever we can put out there. Bullard, is showing progress and I believe the glut really slowed him down. So he was game to play, but not as effective. He’s starting to show up. Floyd’s on target. Kwiatkowski, Jones, all of those ILBs are better when Trevathan is out there (veteran presence). Bush/Carson one of them is on IR. The others is on special teams.

          • BerwynBomber

            Most likely you are right. But the wildcards are a new HC and Y2 of Bisky. if one or both of those hit, we could contend for a playoff spot.

          • CanadaBear

            No doubt the Bears have a chance for major improvement. I’m not confident that Pace will get the HC correct and after last week, I’m less confident MT will be the guy.

          • Big Mike

            If Trubisky isn’t the guy, nothing works.

          • If Pace keeps being a cheapskate in FA, Bears will be LUCKY to reach .500

            Like you say, too many holes, and Pace must understand that he’s not gonna bat 1.000 in the draft, or that stars aren’t going to get inj.

            That’s what FA is for, fucking cheap ass Pacebot.

            Stop being a beancounter.

      • Absolutely.

        The narrative of “they didn’t quit on Fox” was BS last Dec, and it is BS now no matter how many times Joe Hair Plugs Buck keeps refraining it.

        Fox should’ve been fired last Dec, and Pace should’ve been searching for new HCs then knowing in the back of his mind that he was targeting Trub.

    • Sactowns#1

      Why spare Pace. He owns this just as much as the coaches if not more.

      • IF it’s true Fox was Pace’s first choice, then yeah.

        I mean, Will laid out the timeline.

        Pace hired Fox in 7 days, only interviewing 2 others, and wrapping it up before the playoff OC/DCs (usu the best) were done?

        That’s fucking absurd.

        It basically took me longer to decide which electric razor to buy then for them to hire the next HC of a multibillion $ team.

        • Juan Stone

          You’re assuming Pace didn’t talk to potential candidates through back channels. Child…. puhleez.

          Personally, I don’t think Chicago attracts much interest. The only shot the Bears have to winning again in the near future is Harbaugh. I say it’s time to hire the rabid dog to unleash him on the Packers.

      • Because pace knows what he is doing. Got Trubisky, signed hicks, trevathan, freeman, moves up to get the guy he wants in draft like Floyd. nobody’s perfect, but his arrow points up, whereas Fox looks like he is tired of coaching.

  • Bear Instincts

    In his last 32 games as a head coach — first with the Raiders, then the Browns — Hue Jackson is 2-0 on Christmas Eve and 0-30 in every other game. Guess who we play on Christmas Eve?

    • Big Mike

      I think both wins were over teams that had their business locked up.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      interesting. if you look back to his last 33 games he has 3 wins and 1 of those is against the Beloved.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Good read Jeff. Thank you. Hope your sources are spot on. The only thing I’m worried about is who will be the Bears coach in 2018…I know we’ve all thought about it and on who and who would not be available or even want the job. I’m thinking Jon Gruden (Looks like he’s talking with Tennessee) and Jim Harbaugh (Michigan Contract is Massive and the Bears are Cheap so I don’t think they’d pay him what it would take).

    • CanadaBear

      Unless the Bears break the bank, they can’t match Harbaugh’s potential income. If he wanted to leverage all the money streams he could make $15-$20 mil/year at Michigan.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        what additional money streams can he leverage?

        • CanadaBear

          All the coaches shows, speeches, alumni appreciation, etc.

          • BearDown100393

            Binny’s

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Jim Harbaugh actual contract at Michigan is in line with NFL HC contracts.

      • BerwynBomber

        I’m starting to wonder if Harbaugh has let his foot off the gas a bit. He hasn’t won one big game at UM and he seemingly can’t make any of their QBs look functional. I wonder if he is living off his celebrity zaniness.

        • BearDown100393

          Good point. Those khakis are gaining girth.

  • WP4Life

    Here’s to hoping pace is smsrt enough to land a HC that will bring us to the current nfl.

    2013 2015 Kelly was with eagles, the eagles bought his whole system. Realized it was not for nfl, dumped everything hire Pederon( imo like sean peyton) and they are off and running.

    The only hope I have available is with pace. No one else in bears organization.

  • Sensible Sports Fan

    I agreed with 100% of everything in this article, except for the last sentence:

    “This confirmed to me what I’ve always been told: ownership never thrust
    Fox onto Pace. He wanted a coach he wouldn’t need to keep tabs on as he
    went through this process for the first time. It turned out to be a
    mistake.”

    It was not a mistake. It was the correct hire at the time. Fox did a good job of changing the culture of the team and getting a new group of players on board. He’s always been a pretty good program builder. At the time, it was not a mistake. Just because no, three years later, he isn’t the right guy to take the Bears to the next level, doesn’t mean he wasn’t a good hire at the time when we needed to start rebuilding from the ground up.

    • Bear Instincts

      I support this post 100%
      It was the correct hire at the time. Just because he isn’t the right guy to take the
      Bears to the next level, doesn’t mean he wasn’t a good hire at the time
      when we needed to start rebuilding from the ground up.

      Fox is great for laying the foundation of the house but not for putting the finishing touches on the interior decoration.

      • willbest

        I am unconvinced that the correct hire on Jan 16 was Fox when you had been on the job 7 days and had only interviewed 2 other people with 4 playoff teams worth of coordinators you were even unavailable to even talk to.

        • Bear Instincts

          Take into consideration that Fox HAD a track record of turning things around. He did it in Carolina. He did it in Denver. he was coming off a SB loss. Granted there were other factors that contributed to his success in Denver. He looked the part.

          It matters not anymore. He will gone in Jan and we can put this behind us.

          • SC Dave

            Amen on that last part!

  • Bear Instincts

    https://twitter.com/ChiBearsAD/status/935568161528733697
    Name @adamjahns mentioned as possible next #Bears coach in his pod: Dennis Allen.

    • willbest

      What about his stint with the Raiders makes anybody think that is a good idea other than he and Pace grew up together in the Saints organization?

      • willbest

        2012: 4-12
        2013: 4-12
        2014: 0-4 fired mid season.

        2014 is interesting in that it was Carr’s rookie year.

        • Bear Instincts

          im sipping the harbaugh koolaid so i know nothing about other coaches

      • Bear Instincts

        i wold lose all respect for Pace if he took Allen. that is nepotism 101. and if allen fails then pace is gone

    • BearDown100393

      If remotely true fire Pace

      • Bear Instincts

        i like this guy

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Pace?

          • Bear Instincts

            I approve of BearDown100393 comments to fire Pace if it is remotely true that he wants to hire Allen as HC. That would be a worse decision than hiring Firefox

            Yes I approve of the job Pace has done so far when taking into consideration what Angleo & Emery did. However he like the team have a long way to go before they can be considered competitive.

    • I mentioned Dennis Allen as a possible dark horse a few weeks back.

      Turning a perennial awful Saint’s D into an elite unit is close to miraculous (and obviously, Saint’s connection).

      His Raider stint is somewhat alarming though.

      But at that time the Raiders were major garbage.

  • Nancy Glennon

    I think they should look into hiring that coach that just won the Grey Cup. He seems to know what he is doing.

    • Marc Trestman

      That sounds like a great idea. He must know what he is doing. He won 3 Grey Cups with 2 different teams. He has also been coach of the year twice.

      • Bender McLugh

        what is occurring??!

        • Marc Trestman

          I was just backing up the suggestion made by the beautiful Nancy Glennon. She seems to have good taste.

          • Bear Instincts

            why do you skipping out on mikeys paternity test?

  • Carlos Pendleton

    One of the dumbest things the Bears could do at this point is to change to a 4 3 with a pretty good 3 4 defense right now, it would take investing in more players again and slow the process of getting players for Trubisky and the rebuilding process and prove the bears owners and management are truly behind the times, I think that Pace will demand that the DC plays a 3 4 or he doesn’t know what he’s doing, as for Pace being all in on Fox that’s a big lie because that decision was made for him and that was a classic Mcaskey move along with their consultant, the reason why they hired Pace was because he was young and green and would allow them to control him like they did, they put him on that plane to go and hire Fox, it was not his decision, a real general manager would have told them flat out no because he would have known why John Elway fired him and wouldn’t put up with the Mcaskey’s nonsense and they knew this, from 1983 till now is the worse time in Chicago Bears history period, when are the dumb Mcaskey’s going to learn that they need to own this team and hire a real president of football operations and allow Pace to do what he was hired for, owners manager and fools try to run the business of football themselves behind the scenes and make it look like someone else is doing it, remember when the Bears were the only team that didn’t have a real general manager for some years, now there’s no president of operations and when Halas ran the team it was a different era in football plus he knew what he was doing and they don’t have a clue, they exist off of his name and that’s it period!!!!!

    • Bear Instincts

      it would take investing in more players again and slow the process of getting players for Trubisky and the rebuilding process — this is why we wont switch to a 4-3. this off season is all about putting weapons around MT10 to help his succeed

      • BearDown100393

        Remember when the Bears loaded weapons around Jay Cutler?

    • evantonio

      Hi Carlos!

      • I’m gonna copy and paste this and make students correct all the run-ons.

        • SC Dave

          It would be a good lesson.

        • evantonio

          may want to hop into the wayback machine and find some of Barb’s posts. those could make for good teaching sessions, too.

    • BearDown100393

      It would buy Ryan Pace even more time.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Didn’t Pace let Fangio change to a 3-4 though? Why would he stop a new DC from getting his way?

    • The Bears aren’t that far from a 4-3.

      Like I elaborated above/below, Fangio basically runs a 4-3 under.

      Some guys might not fit perfectly, Floyd perhaps but others may actually be better fits (Fuller, Amos, Young, Bullard)

      Considering that massive turnover once the new regime arrives, it wouldn’t be too much of a change going to a 4-3.

      Just depends what kinda 4-3.

  • Bear Instincts

    https://twitter.com/i/web/status/935602036409884672
    Sources: #Bears already have list of names to replace John Fox potential head-coaching candidates and Vic Fangio isn’t one of them
    http://www.profootballweekly.com/lists/2017/11/28/dffe34439125486683efa80d3e80bea2/index.xml

    • BearDown100393

      I love how all this is leaking with the incumbents still employed.

      Because George thinks its professional.

    • From Jeff’s sources, Fangio isn’t a candidate because HE rejected the Bears

      • Irish Sweetness

        Quality rejected Fangio.

  • Carlos Pendleton

    I have so much respect for Vic Fangio who came from a winning program and he knows what is really going on here, there’s a reason why he won’t take the Mcaskey’s position of interm coach, he knows he is gone and he has made his mind up to not be a part of this circus act, he wants to be a head coach but not here and can you really blame him, how many of you would want to coach for the Mcaskey’s? lmao I mean really, they are the laughing stock of all of sports, what is really needed here is a boycott of the last two games, the only thing that a Mcaskey understands is profit, the only way to get their attention and make them accountable is about 40,000 to 50,000 no shows, what is two games and it may make them stop trying to control this team because they don’t know how to do that, make them all angry but make them see that they need to let go of operations!!!!!

    • SC Dave

      50,000 no shows, who already bought tickets, unfortunately mean nothing. Except perchance to advertisers on the in-stadium jumbotrons.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He errs on the side of less aggression, he does not balance the defense by bringing the appropriate amount of pressure. Delighted to see him go. It will make our offense better because WHOEVER comes in … statistically … will bring more pressure.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog So the Giants called everybody who argued they should trade Eli to Jax INSANE and then benched him a month later for Geno Smith???”

    Weird way to have his consecutive game streak stopped. More so because of his replacement than the benching itself.

    • Scharfinator

      I can’t believe McAdoo hasn’t been canned yet.

    • Yikes.

      I think Kap’s collusion case is getting stronger by the week.

      • willbest

        You mean it went from 1 in 10 trillion to 1 in 9.99 trillion?

        Kaep’s collusion case comes down to having to prove that 14 owners needed to explicitly have a conversation about not hiring a media circus. Quite frankly, his lawyers should be sanctioned for even filing it in the first place.

        • SC Dave

          Can you say “frivolous lawsuit”?

          • Sactowns#1

            Jeesh the right wingers sure have a whole lot o hate for Kaep. I wonder why. hmmm….

          • willbest

            Yes, we get it. You moved your ass to the whitest place in the entire US but you are so fucking terrified that somebody might think you are a racist that you have to continuously prattle on about how hip you are to the plight of multimillion black athletes.

          • BerwynBomber

            Wow

          • willbest

            Rather than argue 14+ owners absolutely had to collude despite it being obvious to even the most inbred billionaire heirs that hiring a player that is toxic to half their fanbase is bad for business, he just does a driveby.

            Its really a nasty habit he has whenever somebody makes a comment he can’t argue on the merits where there is a different skin color involved.

          • Sactowns#1

            Did my wondering out loud offend you? It was just a rhetorical question posed to the audience. They can draw their own conclusions.

          • willbest

            How does Butch put it? The people who rail the loudest against homosexuality are the ones that are most likely to get caught in the bathroom blowing dudes?

  • This is perhaps the most depressing piece in years, Jeff.
    This is like a State of the Bears Address, and we’re Libya 1980s.

    Soooo many aspects that sicken a fan.

    #6 – “ownership never thrust Fox onto Pace”

    How is this even possible? Didn’t the Bears hire Accorsi and his think tank to find an HC before Pace was even on board (cuz ya know, the Bears do everything ass-backwards)?

    How was this even a Pace choice?

    To quote WIll:

    “I am unconvinced that the correct hire on Jan 16 was Fox when you had
    been on the job 7 days and had only interviewed 2 other people with 4
    playoff teams worth of coordinators who weren’t available to talk to”

    This is nuts.

    So did Accorsi shoot Fox by Pace before recommending him? Did Pace suggest Fox to Accorsi?

    Or did the McCaskey tell Pace “Fox is your man for now” And Pace just went along cuz he wanted the job?

    I’m not sure which scenario stinks the most.

    If Pace was the one who wanted Fox that doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in his next choice.

    It also would mean that Pace doesn’t want to fire Fox because that would make him look bad to ownership.

    #2 Fangio not only rejects the interim HC option, but even a DC extension

    WTF? What does this even mean?

    Let’s go through the scenarios

    So, Fangio as well as Fox has checked out. Awesome way to turn around a Trestman culture.

    Fangio wants NO part of the Bears anymore. Awesome. Browns north.

    He doesn’t want a DC extension. OK. Maybe he wants a shot at an HC gig next season, but then WHY NOT be open to interim for job auditions?

    Does he think this crap team will only serve to make him look bad?

    And wth – trying to extend an DC BEFORE you even have a new HC?

    Jesus. This is exactly what fucks the Bears over all the time, all this half-assed overlapping of regimes, philosophies, aging players and systems.

    If you’re gonna start anew, start with a fresh foundation.

    If the new HC wants Fangio, so be it, but don’t saddle prospects before they even hit Halas Hall.

    3. Modeling the Gmen and Steelers.

    Ugh. WE’RE the fucking BEARS. THEY should be modeling their team AFTER us.
    There’s NOTHING wrong with cutting off cancer, fucktards.

    4. Fox will be fired if he loses to 9ers/Browns

    Huh? This is absolutely LOSER mentality. What this tells me is that they’re OK with losing as long as its to “better” teams.

    HOLY fuck.

    That’s like telling your middle son “It’s ok to lose to your older brother, he’s better. Just don’t lose to your lil brother”

    Never in a million years should that be acceptable, esp when your older brother is the Puke.

    Sum. ALL THIS FUCKING SUCKS.

    And I’m actually now hoping they keep Fox just to see how low they can sink.

    They’re already hovering slightly above Trestman level.

    Players clubbing at 2am. Screaming in locker rooms.

    Remember the story of Elway having to come down and discipline the Donkey players cuz Fox wouldn’t?

    Yeah.

    Maybe we should bring in Kromer to give a motivational speech.

    • BerwynBomber

      Jeff tweeted that Acrosi suggested Fox but that it was ultimately Pace’s call. Make of the tea leaves what you will.

      Fangio might be doing us a favor by rejecting the DC extension. Were we really planning to force a new HC to accept Fangio as his DC? Isn’t the same fucked up logic we hated when considering that Fox was chosen for Pace?

      Agree about the potential firing after a loss to SF or CLE. Not that I would be against firing Fox this moment, but if you let him slide after the Brett Hundley game I can’t see why they would get their panties in a twist over two meaningless games. To me it makes the franchise looks like it can’t prioritize or make proper decisions.

      • As much as I have always disliked the Fox pick (called him Albino Lovie since day 1), I can at least somewhat understand the logic of hiring him initially.

        1. He did have a record of competence and turning org around.
        2. He’s old, so he had a network. I don’t think Fangio or a few players like Tre, McPhee, Freeman, etc join the Bears without Fox
        3. Fox’s experience would free Pace to focus on churning over the scouting dept and drafting young players to build a foundation, as well as targeting young FAs.

        Much like with the Glennon debacle – I can UNDERSTAND the rational – I just don’t agree with it.

        But what is MORE damning in my estimation is KEEPING Fox.

        Pace should’ve fired Fox LAST NOV (like I was saying).

        There was NO reason not to ESP if he knew he was going to draft a QB.

        How awesome would it have been if McVay and Wade Phillips Bear coaches?

        But for some fucking reason, he kept Fox, and now, we’re in a shit quagmire and essentially wasted an entire year of truly progressing Trub (and perhaps even stunting him and sapping his confidence)

        If Pace really is responsible for Fox, this entire mess is solely on him, and his draft picks and FAs don’t make up for it.

        • SC Dave

          Butch. I sure hope we got (3) out of this. Doing that is exactly what made Jim Finks a master of his trade. It would almost be worth the sacrifice.

          • #3 is the ONLY light at the end of the tunnel of all this.

            We all knew the abject mess that Angelo and Emery left behind.

            I get a feeling that Accorsi mentioned Fox to Pace, and he didn’t think much on it.

            Like, “Sure. I got bigger issues to fix.”

            Knowing that he has to do a root canal on the scouting dept, draft young playmakers, find a new franchise QB, and get some FAs a long the way.

            His tenure will now rest on his next HC and Trub.

    • BearDown100393

      FAKE NEWS!

      • Trump would coach better than Fox.
        Hes’ already orange.

        • SC Dave

          Paint half of his ugly mug navy, and we’re good to go!

    • beninnorcal

      The Puke our actually our dad at the moment.

  • BearDown100393

    Happy trails Tre.

  • BearDown100393

    George wants to be like the NY Giants.

    Benching Eli and not firing McAdPedo… apparently the respect is mutual.

  • BearDown100393

    November 28, 2017

    3:15 PM (Central)

    And it is dark outside.

    Papa Halas finally returns and he is f*cking pissed.

    • Scharfinator

      • BearDown100393

        It just popped into George’s head.

      • SC Dave

        This track always makes me think of an approaching squadron of Klingon battlecruisers.

        Edit: BTW, the entirety of Carmina Burana is well worth the investment of time.

  • Ososfan

    Hmmm… don’t care about Fangio staying at this point but Donatell DEFINITELY needs to stay he’s a gem and one of the best out there!

  • Viva

    Bears at home vs Bengals tickets on StubHub $14.00

    https://www.stubhub.com/chicago-bears-tickets/performer/6051/

    • How much do Solider Field pretzels cost again…

      • willbest

        $6.50

        • AlbertInTucson

          So, you’re saying you’d take the ticket IF they threw in a couple of free pretzels?

          • SC Dave

            And two beers!

        • BuddhaJoe

          They had a Buona beef sammich for $9. The cans of Two Hearted were 13 bucks though

    • willbest

      That is in Cincy.

      • willbest

        Holy balls, 100 level club tickets going for 30% of face value. That comes with the temperature controlled concourse.

      • Viva

        Thanks for the heads-up, will.

  • AlbertInTucson

    DaBearsBlog‏
    @dabearsblog

    If you don’t “get” Francesa, this will set you straight. Masterpiece.

    “Masterpiece”?

    Meh.

    Low-hanging fruit and McAdoo has been “Dead Man Walking’ for weeks.

    • Somehow listening to Francesa’s rant was cathartic.

      Misery loves company, I guess.

      I wish someone at Halas showed half that outrage.

      • BearDown100393

        I got kicked out

  • Sactowns#1

    Ok, so who was asking for whiskey recommendations the other day? Waffle? Whoever it was (can everyone stop changing their damn names?!) what did you get?

    • Think it was Penis.

    • beninnorcal

      Wasn’t it Wadd?

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      It was me. Haven’t been whiskey shopping yet. Worked and had family obligations over the four day weekend.

      Planning to get it done this Saturday afternoon. I will report back.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        FYI, I tried Four Roses Single Barrel over Thanksgiving, I liked it, and I am not a big whiskey fan.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          I’m gonna have to speak with the Boss Lady about a temporary bump in the whiskey budget.

  • Malice Halice

    This is an IDEAL time to bring Urlacher back. Whether he’s DC or linebacker coach as well as Lance or Peanut for our secondary coach. Those 2/3 guys ain’t finna play none of this bullshit I’ve been witnessing since they left. As far as our offensive coaching n HC we need Chucky, if not him some hotshot OC of the past 5 years or a coach from one of those elite colleges. We need to ALUMNI on our team that’s for damn sure.

    • BearDown100393

      He grew hair

      • Malice Halice

        Proof?

        • willbest

          All the signs on I-90. At least last year. This year Ryan Sandberg grew hair.

          • Sandberg too?

            Wow.

            Heard Lach was trying to recruit Rich Eisen back to the non-bald and the beautiful.

            If Eisen does grow it back it might hurt his 40 time

            Though maybe the hair will pump him up and get him to shave some nano seconds off.

          • Malice Halice

            Didn’t even notice when I was there a month ago

        • BearDown100393

          Fake billboards

  • AlbertInTucson

    Giants- Cowboys on 12/10 flexed OUT of the 4p slot in favor of Seahawks-Jags.

    • willbest

      Considering this is only their 22nd season, and they haven’t been over .500 in a decade, this might be the first time the Jags have ever been flexed in the direction of more viewers.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Bortles threw a BAD pick at the end of their game against the Cards on Sunday.

  • BerwynBomber

    Props to Eli for turning down the chance to start (and then be replaced) to keep the streak alive. I’m not convinced Cal Ripken (not to mention many, many others) would have been that principled.

    • Malice Halice

      Dey got Eli fuuuucked up. He can be our bridge till Mitchell gets life figured out.

      • No way. I mean, I know the Gmen’s Oline sucks, and their WRs are all down, and their HC is worse than Fox, but Eli has been Cutler-esque for a few seasons now.

        He’s great in the playoffs, but in the words of Jim Mora “Playoffs!?”

        I predicted the Glennon and Eli would have about the same season.

        I was right!

        They were both benched!

        • BerwynBomber

          Glennon = Eli? Really?

          Glennon shouldn’t even be in the league. He makes Cutler look like Brady/Rodgers. And Eli is better than Cutler given his play against rivals, post-season appearances and of course post-season performances.

          Glennon wlll NEVER come anywhere near the career of Sanchize.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Pimple on Eli’s ASS > Glennon

        • Malice Halice

          Wouldn’t be bad of an idea honestly. He’d know what to do with Tarik n Jordan given his experience.

      • BerwynBomber

        If it were a year earlier and we could have gotten him for what we paid Glennon, I’d say hell fucking yes.

        But at this point I can’t see sitting Bisky for a bridge. The evaluation is full-on for the immediate future.

        • Malice Halice

          Yea that is true.

    • BearDown100393

      Demand release

      • Wouldn’t he be able to be claimed off waivers?
        He wouldn’t make it past the Browns.

        They have some vet rules with that though. Not sure.

        • BearDown100393

          Eli in Cleveland sounds right

  • Malice Halice

    Jimmy G is starting against da bears. If I didn’t have Cam n da chargers D already I would’ve started one of the two.

    • BuddhaJoe

      Jimmy G is fools’ gold. Doubt he’ll shit the bed but he ain’t what the ESPN idiots made him out to be. If he was they wouldn’t have traded him for a 2nd.

      • Malice Halice

        Oh but against da bears….

    • Irish Sweetness

      Career day coming up for Jimmy!

    • willbest

      I think at some point with these quarterbacks they might just blow it.

      G might be coming into Soldier Field thinking “oh man, they are going to make me look like a worldbeater and I am going to get PAID!”

      at which point there will be too much pressure on him and he will blow it.

  • John Fox

    I just want to tell you guys that this thing is a lot harder than it looks. Also, I had nothing to do with that sushi thing at Halas.

    • BearDown100393

      Not since your colostomy.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      TMI, I think that is something you should only discuss with your wife and doctor. They make pills to help erectile dysfunction.

  • Nancy Glennon

    The Rams are having a great season, I think the Bears should poach one of their coaches for their next HC. I think the Rams OLine coach would be perfect for the Bears.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      LOL, Nancy you little troll.

    • Malice Halice

      We need alumni in da coaching department. Until then, I just can’t take em serious. Damn near EVERY winning team has alumni or flat out great coaches on da team. We ain’t got shit, might as well start with one 1/2

  • You know, the funniest thing about all this Trestman-Fox fiasco is that we could’ve just promoted Chico or Toub in-house and saved everyone a lot of misery.

    • willbest

      I recall the deadspin why your team sucks from a couple years ago when they hired Fox and the line was something like “Fox is the kind of coach you hire when you want to win, but not win too much”.

      Man I wish that turned out to be true.

  • Irish Sweetness

    That’s a statement tie out of Woodward right there ….

    • BerwynBomber

      That’s Bernstein …

      • Irish Sweetness

        I took a shot.

  • willbest

    And today’s sexual harassment story is

    “Rick Scott Consultant Denies He Used Ice Penis to Hump Mannequin”

    http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/florida-gov-rick-scott-consultant-denies-humping-mannequin-with-ice-penis-9863118

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      that poor mannequin. She should sue him for everything he has.

  • EnderWiggin

    FF: Someone is trying to cheat!

    Send Todd Gurley II, LAR RB from RB to PAS

    Send Carlos Hyde, SF RB from Bench to PAS

    Receive Danny Woodhead, Bal RB from PAS to Bench

    Receive Devontae Booker, Den RB from PAS to Bench

    Proposed by Prince Akiem and Sitton (M S), Nov 28, 10:31 AM (ET)

  • Did McBride do something wrong?

    Bears cut him.

    • EnderWiggin

      A few completions and a few nice blocks will get yer ass fired.

    • ButtonShoes

      I doubt it. I also doubt we’re losing anything by cutting him.

    • SC Dave

      Perhaps he was one of the strip-club guys?

  • John Fox

    You guys will love what I have cooked up. Adam Shaheen at WR and Kyle Fuller will be going both ways with some flanker screens dialed up for him.

    Bear Down!

    Also I heard the fly fishing on the Colorado river is going to be stellar this year. You guys going for the season?

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