• leftcoastdave

    Top five in the league front seven with depth everywhere but ILB.

    Playoffs, baby, division champs!

    • CanadaBear
      • Bender McLugh

        Excellent

        • CanadaBear

          I was trying to tease LCD but I love that song. That entire set from Ausitn City Limits is terrific.

          • leftcoastdave

            Funny thing is that when I first clicked the link, it came up with a hearing aid commercial! But this morning Buck came up and demonstrated his artistry, in stark contrast to what accompanied the highlights video. Artistry, what a concept. He made that telly sing. I liked it so much, I next listened to “Hey Joe”, a long time favorite.

            But to the point of my original post, the depth of the D and ability to rotate and scheme will be fun to watch with fresh bodies always on the field.

          • CanadaBear

            Hope you’re correct. Here’s another instrumental (kinda, sorta) from that same set. Love the old school guys with no pedals or effects.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deeBQZ8Aklc

          • leftcoastdave

            Back at you with a dude here in Palm Springs. Had a place called the Blue Guitar where he played regularly. Had a pair of classic early 60’s Firebirds he played with an assortment of other axes. First is Red House, but I like the second much better.

            Neither of these are as good as he did many times at his club, but you get the idea.
            Enjoy.

            Tribute to Hendrix:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ_cbzZ7Y7E

            And then this from BB:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7SMUjLzSv0

          • leftcoastdave

            Ok, and one of his best at his club from back in the day.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzwa8mFqpPY

  • SC Dave

    Absolute garbage for the sound track; all too typical of the highlight reels.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      what you F******** talkin bout you N***** B*****? That F***** soundtrack is off the M******F******* hook! Ya damn Cracker.

  • Bender McLugh

    91 looks damn impressive along with Howard in these clips. Tamba Hali. Would McPhee be the equivalent for us? looking forward to seeing this unit, should be exciting

    • Johnnywad

      I hope I’m wrong, but I have zero expectations for McPhee.

      • Bender McLugh

        Still….doesn’t answer the question. not begrudging you per se.

        With Howard taking the nose, McPhee, Hicks would run loose, no?

        • CanadaBear

          I think Hicks will have another good year if he stays healthy. Really hope McPhee comes around but don’t think it will happen.

          • Yeah, I agree. McPhee will have some nagging inj which will keep him in and out of the line. Nice to hear he got leaner, but still, as we found out with Peanut, once the body starts breaking down it’s like a used car where one things goes wrong, then another.

            I think I read somewhere that Young is actually our top sack man the past 2 years. Kinda surprising, but he seems uneven.

            We’ll def try to land another stud pass rusher after this season (Floyd is no lock either).

          • leftcoastdave

            Rotation, rotation, rotation. Got plenty of horses there to keep fresh and scheme with. Could be fun to watch play out.

          • CanadaBear

            I like Willie but that just points out how limited they have been due to injuries and mediocre players.

          • leftcoastdave

            Wait, didn’t the Lions just sign one of our castoffs?

            We’ll be deep there this year and the rotation should help immeasurably.

          • CanadaBear
          • leftcoastdave

            BTW, did you check out Cal David?

          • CanadaBear

            Yep. Good player!

          • leftcoastdave

            I like some “shredders”, but shredding for the sake of theatrics does not impress me as much as feeling and owning a song, rather like Billy Holiday. Cal does this nicely with many classic blues songs.

          • CanadaBear

            For me, less is more. If you only go there once in a while during a show it’s much more effective, at least for me. When guy’s just wail constantly, it wears me out. To me, it’s all tone and attack. Know when to hit and when to sit. Everybody’s different (that’s a good thing). My brother-in-law is 20 years younger and a good guy. We worked one summer being guides on bike tours in the CDN Rockies. He loves Metallica and played it a lot. I had a cassette (crappy, old van) I made of Santana songs that had lots of wailing. He always bitched about how much Carlos over played. I would laugh and say Kirk Hammett wasn’t exactly just chording in the background. Different strokes for sure. Although we both came together on Rage Against the Machine’s Killing in the Name of. We used that song at an ear piercing volume once the customers were on the road. Some tours we needed to get jacked up to deal with the “special” customers.

        • It’ll prolly depend on down-distance.

          Goldman still technically the NT, but I think he’ll be more of a 3rd down NT since he’s proven he can’t stay healthy.

          So on run downs, Howard could take NT, Hicks and and Goldman at DEs

          On pass downs, I imagine Howard gets taken out, Goldman at NT, with Hicks and Bullard.

          At OLB, they’ll likely use McPhee for more run downs, and then sub in Young or even Houston on passing downs.

          Floyd I think they’ll want in as much as possible even on run downs, though I can easily see McPhee flipping to ROLB and Houston/Young to LOLB if Fangio believes Floyd is still too skinny to hold up vs run.

          • leftcoastdave

            Fun, eh? (Learned that in minny sota)

  • AlbertInTucson

    Wouldn’t be complete without that strip-sack of Cutler.

  • beninnorcal

    Couldn’t finish the highlight reel due to the painfully awful ‘music’. And I’m not one to dislike hip hop but what has happened to music, in general, over the last 15 years or so?

    • CanadaBear

      I made sure the sound was off before I fired up the vid. I try not to complain because I’m so old and popular music passed me by decades ago. My only real issue with music today is how many “artists” just lip sync live. Gotta say that’s on the audience. If they are willing to accept it and still go to their concerts, they get what they deserve. To me that was always the litmus test, can they do it live. Here’s a good example of someone that can sing live.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya8HXx2VxFU

      • SC Dave
      • Bender McLugh

        Pink is definitely mainstream pop culture but she’s got pipes for days.

        • CanadaBear

          I don’t have any of her music but I love that she gets up and belts ’em out.

    • BearDown100393

      Before every game, Jay channeled Gheorghe Zamfir.

      • CanadaBear

        Is that the master of the pan flute?

        • AlbertInTucson

          Sold his stuff in TV collections like Slim Whitman, -Roger Whitaker and K-Tel Records.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I never even HEARD of Slim Whitman until he started pushing albums on TV.

            Slim never did anything for me,
            but I think I still have a couple of K-Tel albums in my vinyl collection.

          • Bender McLugh

            Do NOT bad mouth Roger Whitaker sir!

          • AlbertInTucson

            Where did I do THAT?

            Great voice. I have his Greatest Hits CD.

            THE LAST FAREWELL is on my “Vocal Standards Favorites” mix.

            Slim, however, well, to each their own but,I never understood the attraction.

          • Bender McLugh

            Re_read, you did not.my bad

        • SC Dave

          The One and Only!

    • Johnnywad

      It’s gone to shit. That’s what.

      You ever hear anything by this asshole that calls himself “Drake”? He just won a bunch of music awards. His “thing” if you will, appears to be not being able to sing, then auto tuning it, and doing it all out of time. It’s brutal. And people are buying the shit out of it. Don’t get it. At all.

      • SC Dave

        Auto-tuning is the anti-Christ. I suppose it must have originated with MTV, yes?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Downloading?

  • beninnorcal

    And what’s the story with Hicks? After last season he should be given a longer term deal. One of the few bright spots on the team.

    • BearDown100393

      He produced so that means he is on the bubble.

  • King of DBB

    Matty Ice gonna git his butt buried on the Chicago turf deeper than an Alabama tick in Fred’s hide.

    Opening Day gonna rock!

    • BearDown100393

      He won’t finish the game.

      • SC Dave

        Gee… I think we’ll keep the score closer than THAT.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I have a feeling we’ll pants them in week one. Straight up, no spread. Prolly at 9/2 for the win.

  • Sactowns#1

    But whats up with his hip? Will he be 100%?

  • BearDown100393

    Eric Decker officially on the open market. Maclin is a Raven.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Any cash left? We could use a big dude in the mix.

      Who do you cut?

      • Tortured Bear fan

        no one, Cruz got ahead with that money

  • Howard looks very strong at the POA.
    He should def make those Olines go backward.

    Just hope he can stay healthy.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Stick it up your jaxie … but having said that I would like a Range Rover for $8752. As soon as I have $8752 ….

  • antityco

    The music is terrible.

  • CanadaBear

    Read a funny quote from Mike Daniels (fudgie DL man) talking about Fat Eddie. “He’s about 2 cheeseburgers away from having his hand in the dirt right next to me.”

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Bears breakdown by Brian Baldinger.

    Acho and Harold Jones-Quartay shouldn’t be on the field…

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/0ap3000000814665/Baldy-s-Summer-Tour-Chicago-Bears

    • Seems like we have the worst cover LBs in the league and TEs continually burn them.

      I know Acho is a back-up, but you can’t let a TE get THAT much separation, and Quratay should def make that tackle.

      Hopefully both will be played off the roster.

      The Winston play was just ridicules but shows that they lack fundamentals (contain). From Floyd I can understand. A rook coming in too fast trying to make the big play.

      But the rest should’ve known better. I can’t really blame the secondary on that. It’s easy to lose your man after 10 freaking seconds.

  • antityco

    Horrible music.

  • CanadaBear
    • AlbertInTucson

      “Kevin White may be the biggest. The 2015 No. 7 pick has only played four games in the last two years, but if he can be the guy the Bears (and plenty of draft analysts) thought he was coming out of West Virginia,…”

      If he can “…be the guy…” I’ll be stunned.

      • CanadaBear

        Me too. I actually would be more optimistic if he hadn’t played last year. The last of his 4 games he looked like he was playing faster but still nothing to shout about. I guess my expectations were too high last year because I was really disappointed in his progress and lack of speed/separation.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I just don’t see a “speed guy” breaking the same leg, twice, and ever being what he was drafted to be,

  • King of DBB

    Bears sign Karlos Williams to round out the backfield…

    https://tinyurl.com/2fcpre6

    • Irish Sweetness

      Okay. It was my fault. I asked for that.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Chris Emma‏Verified account @CEmma670 30m30 minutes ago
    Kendall Wright said of Bears QB Mike Glennon: “It’s like he was born to be a leader. He’s taken that role and this team like it’s his.”

    Glennon has taken the Alpha Dog role. Even at NBA Finals watch party at Kyle Long’s place, Trub and Sanchize are in the back while Glennon takes alpha seat…

    https://twitter.com/Ky1eLong/status/873355589279252481

    • SC Dave

      Ha ha ha… that’s funny

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Bears using quarterback simulator to get their new qbs reps per Foxy.

    Glennon, Foxy Press Conference
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwNt6-kcCnA

  • King of DBB

    Jeff got on television talking about the Bears. I like his red tracksuit and shades

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrslOMDgC2Y

  • King of DBB

    It’s cool to be vindicated by other smart football fans: Pace took Trubisky just to save his own ass. He bought himself three years.

    Finally other people are saying it in public. It would be epic if Jeff also made a firm stance on this point on this blog, but his homerism kicks in and he refuses to acknowledge such a base machination by his favorite team so he bandwagons. But history would vindicate the shit out of Jeff were he to take a stand on this.

    https://youtu.be/XrslOMDgC2Y?t=427

    • SC Dave

      What if Trubisky is just good? Will you still hold out that it was all a base mechanism to keep his job?

      • beninnorcal

        Agreed. I wasn’t too excited about the pick. But I’m definately hoping for the best. Unfortunately, as a Bear fan, I’m expecting the worst.

        • CanadaBear

          I’m almost the same. I’m usually optimistic until things don’t go well for the Bears, then I’m super pessimistic. Bi-polar for sure when it comes to the Beloved.

          • King of DBB

            Trubisky might be good. I don’t see the next Aaron Rodgers in him, but we all should give him a chance. And it makes sense to have him sit his rookie year. No scout thinks this kid is in Carson Wentz’s league. At least not now.

            But as fans, we need to be outraged and upset that the pick was done for political reasons and does not adhere to anybody’s idea of long term rebuilding. Perhaps Pace can smooth over his holes with free agency, and he regards getting on star player as all he could hope for from the draft. But most good teams use the draft well. Teams that are showing turnaround like the Cowboys have done an excellent job using the draft, as much as it pains me to give False Face any credit for anything, he has rebuilt that team through shrewd drafts.

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t agree with the premise at all. Unless Pace does something REALLY stupid I don’t think George has any plans to launch him. He’s praised him every chance he could (considering their record, that’s not many chances). Foxy, not so much. The Bears desperately needed a good, young QB in the pipeline and a vet. Pace took two bites at the apple this winter. That’s my take. I have no idea if MT or RP pan out. At least RP had a really good draft the year before. That’s one more than PE in three years and one more than JA in his last few years. The cupboard was so incredibly bare, it will take another couple off seasons of great work by RP just to get the Beloved in position to be in the playoffs with a chance to do something.

          • King of DBB

            Canada –

            No serious NFL beat guy or writer thinks the Bears draft was anything but crazy and stupid.

            NO-BODY.

            The guy in the video I posted just went deeper on the truth:

            The initial take was that Pace was just stupid.
            The new take is that he was just playing for time for his own ass.
            While you may not think he was on the hot seat, he’s shrewd enough to play chess here. He takes Trub and locks the decision to can him up for 3 years.

            If he went with D and lineman and it went badly this year and they were 3-13, there would be whispers.

            But time will vindicate me. The Bears look 3-13 right now, and if it plays that way, then just watch what people start saying about Ryan Pace.

          • SC Dave

            My opinion is that the press wildly over-reacted to the fact that Pace made the trade in the first round.

            Grading a draft before anyone has played a freaking down is pathetic and I pay no attention to those chumps.

          • I think a big part of it was “confirmation bias”

            99% of “mock drafts”, NFLN/ESPN “experts”, Draftniks from endless blogs like Walterfootball, etc mocked a defender to the Bears, so when Pace reached up one spot for a QB – how dare they?!

            But it wasn’t like UFOs landing on the Whitehouse.

            Biggsy kept crying out in the wilderness that he can’t possibly imagine Pace riding with Glennon and suggested Pace would go QB.

            Data hammered out the, well, data, which made the case how if you want a true franchise, it’s gotta be in the first, and likely Top #10.

            So the case for a QB at #3 was being made by some, but no one really paid attention, so when it happened, they were genuinely shocked.

          • CanadaBear

            Of course, if they go 3-13 people are gonna be talking. I get how you feel about the draft and it’s great when you read someone else thinks the same way, but I don’t get too excited over the Chicago media and even less so with the national guys. These days everything is the best ever or the worst ever, no in between. Everyone vying for clicks and trying to be edgy and all that. I’ve read the same quote 3 or 4 times about a couple of AFC scouts said MT was the best prospect since before Luck. I doubt that but just the other side of the coin. I’m going with Dave on this one and wait and see.

          • SC Dave

            There is no *objective* reason to believe that Pace picked Trubisky for any reason other than he thinks he is “his guy” at the QB position.

          • Irish Sweetness

            1 …2 …3 …. Eastbound and down …..

          • The cowboys didn’t make the playoffs for like 20 yrs!

            Jerry Jones was in charge of those drafts too.

            they built a team (after 20 yrs) and LUCKED into Dak, but without Dak, they’re the Texans circa Hoyer/Arian Foster (at best since the Texans had a much more dominate D).

          • AlbertInTucson

            Once upon a time, Jimmy Johnson used a supplemental pick (which costs you a pick in the regular draft) on QB, Steve Walsh.

            This was when the Cowboys ALREADY had drafted Troy Aikman.

            Aikman turned out to be a franchise guy ( having a hall-of fame O-line, Emmitt Smith and Michael Irvin didn’t hurt, either) but, even Jimmy Johnson wasn’t sure about QB at the beginning and hedged his bet when it came to the most important position on a football team.

      • BearDown100393

        What if Jay stayed? What if Rex didn’t get pic’d? What if Kyle didn’t hit on Lisa? What if Connor didn’t break his leg? What if Glennon wasn’t signed?

        • SC Dave

          Your point?

          • BearDown100393

            It is all a game of chance and circumstances. Glennon was signed. He’ll get the starts. If he stinks but the Bears win, he’ll probably still get the starts. If he stinks and the Bears lose, Trubisky will get the starts. So many factors into play – what if the O line is putrid and cannot protect the QB – put in Trubisky? Or what if the O line is great and stays healthy? When thinking about it, the game really is about preparation and then reacting to its uncontrollable elements. As fans, we get to enjoy playing armchair expert and second guess. There is no right or wrong.

          • SC Dave

            Understood, but what does any of that have to do with Pace’s alleged motivation for drafting Trubisky?

          • Johnnywad

            There’s no way a guy with his drive traded up to grab a player in some strange attempt to save his job. He’s not a fucking retard. Make the team play good football and you get to keep your job. He had a mountain of repair work to do on this roster. He’s done some of that. It’s not a two year deal when the roster is as bad as it was.

            I just disagree with Snowman whom I believe is GP.

          • SC Dave

            I am with you on all of this, especially the first sentence.

            Pace is young, and wants to be awesome.

            DAMNIT that would be a great thing

          • Irish Sweetness

            Young and awesome? I’ll take young.

          • BearDown100393

            I’m not relaying this in the best manner and that’s on me however intuition suggests that fans in general are pining for Pace to be the Bears version of Theo Epstein. And that the roster restructuring and changing of the guard at positions like GM are going to develop in a linear like manner akin to the Cubs rebuild. And this is football. Too many uncontrollable variables occur. And to my thinking, a GM like Pace understands that. One injury at a position like quarterback ruins a team season unless a Dak appears. So I’m guessing Pace is a bit less stringent on plans and expectations because in his sport, things just happen and it really is next man up. He signed Glennon. And maybe thought at that time, Glennon was the guy for a season or maybe more. What the hell do any of us really truly know what he was or was not thinking? Maybe he was leaning towards drafting another guy at a different position when signing Giraffe. Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe a scout got him took second look Trubinsky. Maybe the plan changed. Or it didn’t. The NFL is a strange bird different from other sports. It definitely isn’t baseball. And the Bears hierarchy sure isn’t like the Cubs. All we get to do is second guess. Assume. Presume. Play armchair. And if by cosmic coincidence guess right, get to brag for once, “I told you so”.
            19-0

          • SC Dave

            All good. I think we agree that Glennon AND Trubisky was the right plan. Maybe *Glennon* becomes franchise.

            As I mentioned elsewhere, the overreaction of the media on trading to get Trub is comical.

            If either becomes “the guy”, who would give a fuck which one it is?

            I know I wouldn’t!!

          • Irish Sweetness

            I hope Glennon does raise the roof, means we have tradebait. Maybe some chips to get in the Darnold Derby.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I think Pace was right to draft a QB. For me, you don’t overpay for a guy like Trubisky and you sit pretty at three and don’t shit the bed. Watson was there if Trubs wasn’t, and he’s a better QB right now.

            If we swap out Sanchize for Shaw, we have three pretty good deals at QB in Chicago. We can survive at the position, and dman, we even have a few receivers to throw the ball to … that’s not a bad thing.

    • SC Dave
      • BearDown100393

        Oh the Romanian lives.

    • Interesting how fans view the same facts and conclude differently.

      Here’s how I see it.

      1. Cutler was NEVER Pace’s guy. He wanted Mariotta. Too much. Wentz. Too much. This offseason, he was heavily linked to Jimmy G, but Pats being Pats wanted too much.

      He was looking for a true franchise QB since day #1 but the price was always too high.

      Trub was the first “blue chip” QB he could attain without handing over the farm, and he swooped in for essentially the same stock we as the Bmarsh deal.

      2. The Glennon contract structured long before the draft is essentially a 1yr deal.

      No one denied it on March 10th, no one denies it post-draft.

      Many assumed Pace structured the contract that way so that NEXT YEAR he would get his franchise.

      That’s EXACTLY what Pace wanted you, me, every mock drafter and GM to believe, and it WORKED.

      Even the 9ers had no idea who the Bears wanted, and I bet the Browns and a few other teams were also assuming we’d take Thomas or Adams, so didn’t make a big a push as they would’ve cuz Pace refused to tell Lynch who they were going to draft.

      3. I may be in the minority, but I absolutely believe that Pace would’ve
      gotten a chance to choose his own HC next year regardless; it just
      makes sense. How can you stick a GM with an HC and QB he never wanted
      (along with a decade full of draft trash) then fire him when those guys
      suck?

      It’s possible cuz we’re the Bears and do nothing right, but
      I’m with Candada in that I think Georgie likes Pace and would’ve given
      him that opportunity to bring in his HC and QB like a normal sane
      organization in spite of record.

      4. Your theory and Pace GENUINELY liking Trub are not mutually exclusive. Could be Trub was the first blue-chip QB he could attain for relatively cheap AND he did so for self-preservation.

      Nothing wrong with that. If your boss offers you a promotion AND a free trip to Greece, you take it.

      That’s the way I see it.

      The “motivations” are somewhat secondary anyways.

      If Trub sucks, he sucks.

      No guarantee Pace (or yet another Bear GM) would’ve found a better QB option next year anyways.

      • Scharfinator

        “That’s EXACTLY what Pace wanted you, me, every mock drafter and GM to believe, and it WORKED.”

        That certainly is what I’d like to believe. The truth of it, who knows.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Those guys look like the bad stunt doubles for Jay and Silent Bob.

  • BearDown100393

    “Still think Trubisky starts. Not ready to commit to Glennon yet.”

    Giraffe is our starting quarterback.

  • King of DBB
    • BearDown100393

      They duded each other.

    • CanadaBear

      Hey GP, I meant to link a song I think you will like. You like the wordsmiths and Richard Thompson qualifies. I think this song describes your last relationship (I mean absolutely no disrespect).

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4mU9Wh8yRs

  • CanadaBear

    The Fudgies beat man hung ’em up this year. Here’s a couple of interesting answers from questions from our old fave Peter King.

    The MMQB: You documented how fortunate it was that Aaron Rodgers didn’t have to play the first couple of years—he just wasn’t ready.

    McGinn: “He was a very poor player here for his first two summers and regular-season practices. Fortunately for him, and he knows that down deep, he didn’t have to play early. His delivery was a mess, bad body language, he didn’t know how to deal with teammates. He learned so much from Brett Favre on how to in some ways be one of the guys and relate, and he became much more of a leader. He was really poor and how many great players have ever had a start like that? Not that many. A lot of scouts look at that exhibition tape those first two years and he was a little bit better the third year, but not to any degree, and then he just really developed. He lost a lot of close games in ’08, but by ’09 he was playing great and by 2010 he was maybe the best in the business. And then there have been a lot of playoff disappointments and poor performances. It’s a quarterback league and all the rules are designed for that quarterback to dominate, and he hasn’t done it in the most important times since 2010.

    The MMQB: Favre or Rodgers?

    McGinn: “Would I take Favre or Rodgers? Right now, Favre. Because he was there every single game and he inherited a team that was the armpit of the NFL. It’s one of the greatest reclamation projects in NFL history. Favre just did it all from nothingness.”

    • BearDown100393

      Brett Favre wasn’t Brett Favre until he became Brett Favre.

      • BerwynBomber

        A nice Madden-ism …

    • BerwynBomber

      Take it with a huge grain of salt. King was on Favre’s knob for years. To the point where homoerotic parodies were written about it.

      My guess is King knew where the beat guy stood on Favre vs. Rodgers before he conducted the interview. In short, nothing new.

      Btw, Favre played for a much better HC. Enormous difference.

      • CanadaBear

        I just thought it was interesting. I hate both QB’s.

        • I never hated Favre I guess much in the same way many Puke fans never really hated Urlacher.

          I just saw him as a football player through and through.

          Sucked he was on the Pack, but it’s not as if he dominated the Bears like Vadgers

          • CanadaBear

            He did until Lovie came to town. I hated how Favre worked the refs and all the drama his last 3-4 years (retirement, switching teams, sending dick pics). Like you, Favre at least seemed like he would be fun to hang with and have some laughs. Hanging with Rodgers would probably be about as much fun as a trip to the dentist.

          • Yeah, but let’s be honest, which QB doesn’t work the refs?

            They all do it. Heck, even now it’s referred to the “Jordan effect”.

            Just so happened Favre was a likable durable dude so after like 15-20 years, he’s prolly gonna get those calls.

            And 100% on Vadge. Just reeks of smug, petty and entitled, which is why dropped.

          • CanadaBear

            No doubt but the refs would routinely help Favre up.

          • Cormonster

            Most of my friends are die-hard Packers fans. They really like having Rodgers on the team because he’s so good, but they don’t love him the way they loved Favre. They love Favre the way Bears fans loved Walter. They were pretty pissed when he went to the Vikings, but I think all that is forgiven now. Hell, they sold out the stadium for his induction into the Packers HOF.

          • CanadaBear

            If you went to a party at Favre’s when he was young I’m sure it would have been a crazy grab-ass, free-for-all with Favre being the ringleader. Same scenario at Erin’s and he would be in the living room making sure everyone was using a coaster.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I had a couple drinks with Favre in 2005, I think. He was travelling back to Miss. and because of a snow storm he stopped for the night in my hometown. The bar I was at was dead mainly because of the storm, and Favre and some other guy walked in. My buds and I recognized him and started telling Favre/GB jokes and acting as if we did not know him. The jokes got pretty damn harsh, but he was laughing. Finally we let him in on the fact we knew who he was. He bought a couple rounds. Cool guy.

          • CanadaBear

            Not surprised. He definitely is a good ol’ boy.

          • BerwynBomber

            I loathed Favre a ton more than Rodgers. That hillbilly diva shit was really hard to stomach. Plus, that whole team was a bunch of unlikable fucks: White, Winters, Chumura, G Brown, etc,, etc. And you talk about a guy being blown by national announcers, no one ever sucked off a QB like Madden and Bradshaw sucked off Favre. (And Pete King did too as a scribe.)

            Much better teams those than the Rodgers’ squads though (excepting a few guys like Woodson and Matthews). And McCarthy is simply not near Holmgren’s level. Lots of future HCs came out the GB Holmgren tree. Plus, the dude ended up taking freaking Matt Hasselback to an SB.

    • I believe it.
      A lot of ppl forget why Vadgers fell, as if it was just out of the blue.

      But many GMs and scouts had real concerns about him, first and foremost his “character”.

      They saw a whiny little “me” bitch and didn’t want that as their franchise face.

      And is he not still a whiny little bitch?

      Only difference is that he sat, learned and matured.

      If not for that, maybe he goes the way of Leaf or Bortles.

      It’s ironic because Favre was also “immature” just in a different way (boozing, not studying, doing whatever he felt on the field).

      Gotta hand it to the Puke, they reclamated both.

      • CanadaBear

        The part about learning how to deal with the guys and relate kinda jumped out at me. No kidding about still being a whiny little bitch.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, you keep saying that but Rodgers is arguably the most gifted QB ever. Coaching, I’m sure helped, but coaching didn’t provide him that arm nor the feet and the mind.

        The dude’s a Peyton-like savant but with freakish white boy athleticism. I don’t buy the “he wouldn’t have developed if he hadn’t sat” stuff for a second. If he started his rookie year, he just would have been better faster.

        And frankly I’m not sure McCarthy is that much of a coach. Seems to me Rodgers carries him as opposed to vice-versa.

        • CanadaBear

          The thing is none of us know how mentally strong Erin is. If he would have started right away and gotten destroyed like Carr in TX, who knows? Same with getting along with teammates. If he was getting lit up constantly his teammates might not have been so willing to accept his “unique” personality. It’s all conjecture. No doubt the path Erin took worked out well for the Fudge.

          • BerwynBomber

            Nonsense. Great, HOF QBs will persevere/rise regardless. Granted, Brady only gets to GOAT status because of the good fortune of being on Belichick’s team, but he would have been damn good even on the Browns. Same is true of Rodgers and Brees.

            This notion that some HoF QB would have been out of the league in two years if not for some butterfly flapping its wings in Japan is next to bonkers.

            If Carr was great he would have persevered. Hell, Aikman took a tremendous beating his first year and came out okay. (And I wouldn’t call Aikman great, but damn good, and like Bradshaw, the leader of a great team.)

            And I fail to believe Rodgers is weak mentally. He’s a dude who was a Juco player and wasn’t even offered a D1 scholarship. He’s had a chip on his shoulder for years. He is incredibly competitive. By all accounts he walked into GB dripping with confidence.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Aikman did not take the beating Carr did.
            Carr sacked 208 times in his first 4 years. 76 in his first year
            Aikman sacked 113 times in his first 4 years. 19 in his first year.(not starter the entire year)

            It takes more than a desire to be great for QBs to be great. A QB needs to get into a good system. Brees spent 4 mediocre years in SD, only started putting up HOF numbers when he got to NO.

          • BerwynBomber

            Brees struggled his first two years in the league. That’s not uncommon for even great QBs.

            But his last two years in SD he had passer ratings of, respectively, 105 and 90. Hence, he was already trending upward and showing vast development.

            The biggest question mark about him coming out of SD was about his injury. Not his performance.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            he was injured, AFTER they drafted Eli Number 1 overall and then traded for Rivers. Pretty clear SD did not think Brees was the answer.

          • CanadaBear

            We’ll never know.

          • If we drafted and started Vadgers right away you believe he wouldve been as good as he is now?

          • BerwynBomber

            More or less.

            Mostly, with great QBs, I tend to think coaching is reflected in titles/team achievement. Would their stats/performance be affected? Probably. But I don’t think drastically.

            Again, let’s imagine the most extreme example. Brady ends up with the Browns (instead of the Pats). Will he end up as five-ring GOAT Brady as we know him? No. But my bet is he would be far, far from David Carr too.

            Put a gun to my head and I say his career as a Brownie would be something like Philip Rivers. A very good top 10 QB who may end up borderline HoF.

            And unlike with Rodgers and Brees (and Peyton), I believe it is more about the HC than the QB in NE. But to say that Brady’s excellence is only attributable to a unique set of circumstances (and coaching)? Sorry, I can’t go there.

            Players, IMV, control a good size portion of their destiny. Belichick puts NE and Brady over the hump and makes them legendary. But Brady has shown me enough to suspect he would have been damn good wherever he was at.

            And to your question. Rodgers as a Bear? Are you kidding me? With those Lovie D’s and STs? Fuck, we might have been a dynasty.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Titans very interested in Decker.

    Probably a good fit.

  • BerwynBomber
    • CanadaBear

      Stuff like this used to piss me off. Now I just smh and laugh. If people are dumb enough …

      • AlbertInTucson

        Remember the Leno bit about the crap people pay for on Ebay?

        • CanadaBear

          Didn’t see it but I’m sure it’s funny.

          • SC Dave

            Maybe we should make Spice Adams do one

          • CanadaBear

            As long as his mom was part of it you know it would be funny.

          • AlbertInTucson

            It was one of his regular bits.

            He’d describe and item and the audience would vote on where or not it actuall “Sold On Ebay”.

          • CanadaBear

            Needless to say I rarely watched Leno.

      • SC Dave

        Yup. Whatever the market will bear.

  • CanadaBear

    Looks like Trac is sweeping out the footprints where he strayed.

    • beninnorcal

      I’m sorry, what’s his screen name now and what do you mean?

      • CanadaBear

        His last screen name was white something pain or gain. All his comments in this thread have been deleted. He was always a bit of a conspiracy buff so … + that’s a line from a Richard Thompson song that I really like.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I thought that was GP. GP, please bring back Jimmy!

          Boys, the handle thing, nobody knows who you are if you change it – I know I can’t play that game of guessing who’s who anymore.

          • Scharfinator

            No kidding, I just do my best with context clues and figure fuck it if I can’t figure it out.

          • SC Dave

            It must be some ego trip thing… you know, that people would care enough to try to figure it out.

            Edit: Or maybe they’re just bored?

          • CanadaBear

            Pretty sure GP is snowman and 5 M’s is Johnny Waffle. Of course, I’ve been wrong before when it comes to this!

        • We can delete comments? Or is the queens secret service finally catching up to Trac?

          • CanadaBear

            I think he deleted his account. Every post on this thread is gone.

    • BearDown100393

      Who?

      • CanadaBear

        His latest screen name was white pain/gain or something like that. He’s been here a long time as Trac.

        • BearDown100393

          Oh. So the custom is to change usernames and personas?

          • CanadaBear

            Not by me. There are a few; Trac, GP, Butch and Johnny Waffle come to mind.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            at least Butch keeps his name in () most of the time.

          • CanadaBear

            No doubt that helps. Usually it takes me a couple of days to get up to speed and even then I’m still wrong about half the time.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            then they change it again, which doesn’t help.

          • CanadaBear

            I think the off season lends to the name changing. Who knows? Doesn’t bother me but if I’m posting to one and it’s the other, I don’t feel bad when I’m wrong. Just confused. That happens a lot after age 60!

          • Is that a request for the return of the Conte Condor i hear?!

          • CanadaBear

            Uh, no.

  • Irish Sweetness

    It’s done. August 26th. T-Mobile arena. 12 rounds. 154 pounds. Ten ounce gloves.

    The biggest fight of all time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f29SdvFDwYk

    • Julio Caesar Chavez’s vcr

      Are you a millennial?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Why?

        PPV, cash, determines the place in history. Nothing else. But if someone from outside boxing was to kill its biggest star … whichever way you dice it, there has never been a bigger fight.

        40 of the first 42 big bets in Vegas were on Conor.

        • CanadaBear

          Bullshit. If that’s the case the biggest fight of all time will always be some current fight. If you want to say the biggest gate that’s fair. Trust me, the first Ali/Fraizier fight makes this look like a prelim.

          • SC Dave

            Or Ali / Foreman, for that matter.

          • CanadaBear

            What a concept, actual boxers squaring off! The upcoming exhibition (hard to call it a fight) will be 12 rds of Mayweather fending the MMA guy off with superior defense and scoring enough to win almost every rd. The fight will be crazy boring and everyone will feel ripped off. There, I’ve saved everyone a chunk of money.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We’ll see.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That was Boxer v Boxer. Now there will be MMA fans and Boxing fans buying the PPV.

            Cash. Pure and simple. Gate and PPV.

            The Thrilla and the Rumble were great spectacles no doubt, but they were boxing matches. This won’t be a typical boxing match I don’t think. Conor’s too smart for that. He’s smarter than Floyd.

          • CanadaBear

            It’s an exhibition nothing more.

    • BearDown100393

      Don’t caaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeee.

  • You wanted news, here ya go!

    Bears second-year OLB Leonard Floyd revealed it took him two months to recover from his late-season concussion.

    Floyd was concussed twice as a rookie, in Week 11 and againin Week 16. Last year’s No. 9 overall pick said he was in a fog until February. Floyd recorded seven sacks as a rookie and received plus
    pass-rush marks from Pro Football Focus. With veterans Pernell McPhee and Lamarr Houston extremely injury-prone in Chicago, the Bears are looking for Floyd to key their pass rush. – Roto

    • beninnorcal

      No, no, we wanted good news though. Try again, please. Fuck.

      • Being in a ‘fog’ for 2 months is NOT good.

        Maybe he switches to a special helmet or something cuz if he gets dinged up again, he’ll be out a while I fear.

        • SC Dave

          Permanently, perhaps.

          • CanadaBear

            Let’s hope not for his sake.

          • MB thinks Floyd’s gonna get concussed. Guarantee

          • CanadaBear

            Unfortunately I think he’s correct.

    • BearDown100393

      Chris Conte is willing to die for that fog.

  • More Bear news

    Jordan Howard “expects a larger role in the passing game” this season.

    Howard had eye surgery to correct his vision after managing29 receptions on 50 targets last year and leading all NFL running backs in drops (8). Howard is also trying to get down to 225 pounds after measuring 6-foot, 230 at the 2016 Combine. Based on Howard’s receiving inefficiency as a rookie and the Bears’ offseason additions of passing-down specialist Benny Cunningham and fourth-round scatback Tarik Cohen, more targets may be hard to come by. – Roto

    • Irish Sweetness

      Jordy dropped a team high 24% of targets I think.

      • SC Dave

        8 out of 50 is 16%

        • And who knows how they define “targets”
          Sometimes targets are really throwaways to avoid sacks

        • Scharfinator

          Shh no math only feelings

        • Irish Sweetness

          Sorry, drops as a % of catches. 7 drops versus 29 receptions. 24%.

  • Few more tidbits to fill the void

    Coach John Fox said Zach Miller (foot) is “going to cut it close” for the start of training camp.

    Miller said he was “close” to full health in early June,
    but he’s sitting out minicamp. Long injury prone, look for the Bears to
    play it slow with the 32-year-old. The Bears signed Dion Sims and
    drafted Adam Shaheen in the second round. Miller is entering the final
    year of his contract and likely his last season in the Windy City.
    – Roto

    The Chicago Tribune’s Dan Wiederer expects RG Kyle Long (ankle) to open training camp on active/PUP.

    Coach John Fox said Long did “explosive” work last week but
    remains “touch and go” to be ready for the start of camp next month.
    Long had major complications with ankle surgery and lost a ton of weight
    over the winter. He’s back up to 310 pounds now and remains on track
    for the Week 1 opener. – Roto

    • Irish Sweetness

      It gets more and more confusing as to why Pace drafted this guy in the SECOND round.

      NOBODY was taking him in the first four rounds, surely.

      • SC Dave

        Wrong.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Well not in the second anyway. To justify that spot he’s got to be an outstanding blocker AND receiver. Total reach.

          • CanadaBear

            You mean like Olsen at 31?

      • CanadaBear

        He was on a lot of top 50 draft pick lists.

    • BerwynBomber

      Miller’s always been overrated. I would keep Brown over him. But Miller might be around just because the team doesn’t want to eat the money.

      • Miller is the superior player , but if looking to the future Brown or even Braukner might be worth the investment

      • CanadaBear

        Miller has a lot of offensive talent but will never play 16 games in a season going forward (if he ever has). Pretty sure they keep him due to the guaranteed money and the fact that he can do things the other guys can’t do offensively. Once the guaranteed money is gone I’m guessing Miller will go with it.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          if they cut him they save almost $2 mill and only have 500k in dead money.

          • CanadaBear

            I know it’s not a lot but it is an incentive to keep him. Also, he has offensive skills the other guys don’t (unless the rookie gets up to speed in a hurry).

    • BearDown100393

      Does it truly matter what John Fox says about any player’s health?

  • Irish Sweetness

    Anyone seen The Knick TV series ?

    • EnderWiggin

      Nope, but I seen The Mick, and that shit is funny.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Is that the thing with Eddie Izzard and Minnie Driver? I saw they were in a series as … hitherto in Britain, though not by myself – they’re good people once you’re not perceived as a threat – …. “Pikies”.

        (In Ireland, the derogatory term for Travellers or Pavies is “knackers” …. though no ‘settled’ person would ever call a Traveller a “knacker” directly to their face. If they were smart.)

        • Bender McLugh

          The Ritches. Such an excellent show that was cancelled.

    • Sactowns#1

      I haven’t. Why do we love hospital dramas and detective shows so much? There are like 100000 of each. I will say this one looks a little more creative given the setting etc so I will most likely check it out.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I watched the first three episodes yesterday. Good stuff. Very gory and ewww though. Clive Owen as a coked-up surgeon in 1900s NY city. How they made the exterior shots look like 1900s Manhattan I don’t know.

        • SC Dave

          CGI?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Fkn good if it was. Looked real to me. Nice job either way.

      • Hospital and courtrooms tend to play forums for ethical debates. Is it right to plant evidence on a sadistic serial killer who’s gonna go free?
        Should a baby be forced to have a blood transfusion even tho the parents are Jehovahs?
        Myriad of gray area humans must decide on and the results never feel quite resolved which brings viewers back.
        Sci-fi functions the same, and most good dramas

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    I was working on an upgrade of a customization for a NFL Team. I got curious on how many NFL teams utilize software I have written. Turns out 23 teams use software I wrote, and for 4 of them I have done customizations to the software.

    • CanadaBear

      Maybe a little contractor action on the side?

    • Is Pace ur creation?

    • Scharfinator

      What’d you make?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        accounting software crap.

        • SC Dave

          And here I thought you were doing VR for Trubisky.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Nice one.

      I wrote the software that prints every vehicle license disc in the Republic of Ireland, as well as the routine that locates haulage vehicle operators misrepresenting their addresses/vehicles.
      I made maybe four thousand dollars for that. It was my first and last lone government contract. I didn’t know how to charge for what I was giving – I thought they’d appreciate the value and use me again. Economics, right? Fucked my development career because I switched horses and went to teach on the other side of the planet.

      If you’re not fucking someone …

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        always ask what the budget is, especially with gov’t work.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Remember that “Simple labrum repair” Jim Irsay was talking about earlier this week?

    Andrew Luck is still not throwing the football and today announced he may not be ready for the start of training camp.

    “Simple”.

    Right.

    • BearDown100393

      They all lie.

      Even still, wish the kid well. The NFL is a rough jungle.

    • CanadaBear

      Well if you can’t believe a raging alcoholic and drug abuser, who can you believe?

  • SC Dave

    Here’s a Hoge article. On the “locks”, I hope he’s wrong about Langford. I see no reason to keep that guy.

    http://wgnradio.com/2017/06/15/hoges-10-bears-things-everything-you-need-to-know-from-minicamp/

    • CanadaBear

      I agreed with almost all of the locks except for Langford. He must be basing that on Pace picking him. Certainly isn’t based on production or ST’s. Good article.

    • BearDown100393

      John Fox and Seal training in the same sentence.

    • I don’t see Cruz as a lock. He looked done last season which is why he was in the dollar bin.
      Obviously hope he turns it around but i don’t see him beating out Wheaton or that dude from Ten.

  • 505Bears
  • BearDown100393
  • King of DBB

    Hey Michael Floyd has already ben arrested for drunk driving.

    I bet the Vikings are so happy they took a chance.

    • CanadaBear

      Again? Did you see the song I linked to one of your posts in this thread? Thought you might like it.

      • King of DBB

        thanks

        • CanadaBear

          I thought you might like the line “with us it’s you or not at all”. If you’re not familiar with Richard Thompson he started with Fairport Convention (Folk/Rock), he and his ex Linda put out a few albums and he’s been on his own since mid 70’s. Really good song writer and a killer guitarist.

          • SC Dave

            Fairport Convention? That’s going back a few.

            I don’t know them well, but Sandy Denny was damn good, and I would be surprised if they had any music that was better than when she was with them.

          • CanadaBear

            She was tremendous for sure. I much prefer Richard’s music so there’s that.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      he wasn’t driving. He tested positive for alcohol while under house arrest. One of his terms of his last DUI sentence was he was not allowed to drink.

      • CanadaBear

        He’s still gotta be in trouble. Probably suspended for a few games. Dumbass! Every time you think this will be the turning point, uh, no. Hope he gets it together for his sake.

        I watched a doc recently featuring a guy that was really battling it (crazy amounts of alcohol) with off and on bouts of sobriety. At the end of the doc he finally gets it together, (30 days sober) they show him with his grandson at the zoo and it’s really inspiring. 2 days later he goes on a binge and is dead in a week. FUCK!

        • BearDown100393

          Older I get, the less I prejudge. See what shakes out. If he is an addict, he needs help. Football can wait until he gets sober.

          • CanadaBear

            Oh yeah. Nothing against the guy. I always hope they get it together. Life is short and precious.

          • SC Dave

            It’s called wisdom

          • BearDown100393

            No worries, I’m still a dumbass at heart. 🙂

          • ars longa, vita brevis

  • King of DBB

    NFL has a structural crack that is getting wider with no rules to address it

    https://theringer.com/nfl-tanking-nightmare-new-york-jets-cleveland-browns-competitive-balance-6c9f3937811b

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      oh no everything is going to collapse because a couple teams tank the season…. who cares. they still have to draft well, which is no guarantee.

      • SC Dave

        I agree. It wont work. A culture of losing is hard to dispel.

        • Normally I would agree, but a newly drafted “franchise” QB is like a needle of adrenaline to a team.

          Carr, Cousins, Luck, Winston, Marriotta etc rejuvenated the Raiders, Skins, Colts, Bucs, Titans… previous loser teams.

          They can then sell their new franchise QB to potential FAs.

          Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t (Jags) but no doubt a new highly drafted QB re-energizes an organization, which I imagine is what tanking teams are counting on.

          • CanadaBear

            My issue is football is totally different than the MLB/NBA. These guys are getting the hell kicked out of them on every play. If mgmt is obviously tanking it wouldn’t be long before there would be trouble among the players. Any player with some pride wouldn’t take kindly to that team set up and most FA’s with options would avoid that team like the plague for years after. My 2 cents. It’s one thing to try your best and lose. It’s totally another thing when you are trying your hardest and the team is flushing your effort down the toilet.

      • And to be more specific, those teams have to draft the RIGHT QB they tanked for, which is like rolling dice.

        That being said, most GMs always believe they have a “system” to beat Vegas.

      • Saruman for America 2020 PAC

        The premise is faulty.

        Says that due to the way the NFL schedules, tanking teams throw off competitive balance.

        BUT a team’s record only influences 2 games a year. Regardless of record, teams play 6 games against division opponents, 4 games against their same-conference rotation, and 4 games against their opposite-conference rotation. Then they play like-placed teams in the 2 other divisions in their conference.

        Tanking thus only affects the selection of 2 opponents per year. That’s crap.

        The premise is garbage.

    • “if you want to understand how valuable tanking would be, look at how much the 49ers got for moving down one spot with the Bears in April’s draft. The Bears beat the 49ers last December to
      ensure they’d have to trade down if they wanted that pick. If the Bears had simply lost to the Niners, they could have kept the three picks they dealt to move up one spot. So yes, tanking helps.”

      And yet EVERY December when we’re OBVIOUSLY not making the playoffs, Jeff reminds us of how we should win those Lovie-games.

      Luckily for us, we don’t have to tank. With Sweaty-Teddy Co, it’s their natural incompetence, so losing flows from us naturally.

      I do wonder if eventually the NFL will do an NBA lottery to try to prevent obvious tanking.

      The NFL also instituted division games late to try to prevent tanking (nothing sweeter than knocking off ur rival from the playoff hunt for no other reason than spite)

      However “tanking” in the NFL is never quite obvious because incompetence.

      So the article cites the Browns and Jets as obviously tanking.

      HOWEVER, supposedly the Jets reached out to ESPN all-star Cargo, but Cargo was, surprise surprise, MEH.

      So they moved on.

      Browns didn’t get a QB, but reports were they were driving hard for Jimmy G, but the Pats were asking too much.

      Browns drafted Kizer.

      And I’m almost positive that both were eying Trubisky but Pace pulled a fast one on everyone.

      Cutting vets is not unique to “tanking” teams.

      How many PB vets have the Pats dumped?

      I’m not sure how the NFL can prevent “tanking” since “intent” is difficult to decipher.

      I like the different scheduling the article suggests. I think the NFL matched up playing entire divisions for the sake of travel? But yes, maybe make it a bit more random

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Pats don’t actually dump PB vets they just trade them to shitty teams like the Browns or Raiders(a few years ago).

  • CanadaBear

    The article is OK but Boden and JJ chatting is kinda interesting.

    http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-bears/heading-summer-its-good-vibrations-john-fox-and-bears-bunch

  • SC Dave
  • AlbertInTucson

    Michael Floyd.

    https://www.sbnation.com/2017/6/16/15819762/michael-floyd-minnesota-vikings-house-arrest-alcohol-test?yptr=yahoo?src=rss

    He blames something called Kambuch tea.

    Uh-HUH.

    I’m sure the Vikings are relieved.

    • CanadaBear

      I’ll bet his bank account thanks him.

      • What I do wonder is if taking a lil less to be on a SB winner is better financially in the long run?

        Not just the ring, but I think players get bonuses/extra for each playoff game, plus all the possible advertising/sponsorship opportunities that prolly go with it.

        Not to mention many players max out their value (esp if they had a good playoff run) and bolt the following year to another team to cash in.

        I guess it’s sorta a gamble, but the Pats would be the safest bet on that route.

        Either way, Hicks is getting paid.

  • Encouraging

    Over the past two decades, no first-round wide receiver who managed fewer than 20 receptions in his first two NFL seasons has become a success.

    The list is comprised of five infamous busts — Marcus Nash, Rashaun Woods, R. Jay Soward, A.J. Jenkins, and Yatil Green — and, of course, Bears third-year WR Kevin White, who caught 19 passes in
    four games last season but has failed to play in his remaining 28 games possible. You can read more about the Bears’ 2017 outlook in Evan Silva’s Team Fantasy Preview at the link below. – Roto

    • AlbertInTucson

      And then, you have David Terrell in the Bear WR draft bust legacy.

  • EnderWiggin

    This fekkin thread…

    Ender’s top 5 soundtracks.

    5) Last Action Hero
    4) Phantom Menace
    3) Oh Brother, Where…
    2) 2001
    1) Conan the Barbarian

    Honorable mentions: 50 First Dates, Clerks, Forest Gump, and Buddy Holly Story
    Edit add: 7 Brides for 7 Brothers

    • Conan!? You cray-cray Ender.
      I think I have a diametrically opposed list (in no particular order)

      Lost Highway
      Trainspotting
      SLC Punk
      Straight Outta Compton
      The Crow

      Honorable mentions: Purple Rain, Easy Rider, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, (insert 80s flick – BreakfastClub/American Psycho?), Pulp Fiction (or maybe Reservoir Dogs) La Bamba, Twin Peaks, Saturday Night Fever even though I’m not really into disco, still a fun listen. [Edit. Dazed and Confused, a bunch of 20 flicks like Public Enemies, Talented Mr. Ripley]

      Not even counting stuff like The Wall.

      • EnderWiggin

        Yeah, The Wall and More soundtracks are good. Reservoir Dogs too. But our list are waaaay different.

        • To say the least, though I do like ur list esp O Brother.

          For classical, Amaedeus and Farenilli. I actually might like Farenilli a bit more.

          Canada can prolly suggest a few for Blues.

          Edit. Haven’t heard 7 brides. Might have to check that out.

          • Cormonster

            How about the Blues Brothers? John Lee Hooker, Aretha, Ray Charles, Cab Calloway, the Blues Brothers Band, etc.

            edit: And James Brown as the minister! I’m sure I’m missing others.

          • James Brown also came out in Rocky IV!

            RIP Apollo Creed.

          • CanadaBear

            The Blues Brothers are great as long as it isn’t the Blues Brothers doing the songs!

          • CanadaBear

            My favorite soundtrack is from the movie Kansas City. There is some killer Jazz going on in that flick. Joshua Redmond did the sax work in it. When they are in the night club trying to outdo each other, oh my.

          • I’ll have to check that one out too.
            Any more good jazz/blues movie soundtracks you can think of?

            I remember I heard this song from the Salton Sea, and I had to hunt it down at some old school record store cuz the peeps at like Tower Records (dating myself!) didnt know who the trumpet player was.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvH67ODcJB8

            I also put Lost Highway in the Top 5 cuz it has a good mix of genres. NIN, a haunting Bowie, Hank Williams, Lou Reed, Smashing Pumpkins, Ramstein, Marilyn Manson, as well as songs like this.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvH67ODcJB8

          • CanadaBear

            Anson Funderburgh and the Rockets with Sam Myers are on the soundtrack a lot in China Moon. OK movie and Madeline Stowe is always easy on the eyes. Most of the time if they are going to put Blues into a movie it’s usually one of the most famous musicians. Albert Collins is briefly in Adventures in Babysitting. Ry Cooder has done a bunch of soundtracks. Desperado has a pretty good soundtrack along with From Dusk til Dawn (not Blues).

      • SC Dave

        La Bamba was a damn good soundtrack, now that you mention it.

        So was the original Beauty and the Beast. I’m terrified to imagine how they fucked up the remake.

    • SC Dave

      1. Amadeus

      That is all.

      • I can totally see that. Of all the soundtracks, I think I’ve listened to that one the most.
        If you haven’t heard the Farinelli soundtrack, you should. It’s more Handel and opera, but still quality.

        It’s actually interesting because since no castratos exist anymore, and they sung before recordings, no one quite knows what they sounded like (supposedly they sounded divine, like Mariah Carey on steroids), so the producers decided to digitally “enhance” the opera singer.

        This is actually the singer who did the soundtrack

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX83BSR0mug

        • SC Dave

          Interesting, and as you say, unknown. Male sopranos are not likely the same, but do produce different tone and sonorities (sp?).

          It’s a reason (well, stupendous musicianship aside of course) that Chanticleer has such amazing sound.

          For the record, autotuning to me is as or more egregious than lip syncing.

    • Cormonster

      Quick list off the top of my head:

      1) The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
      2) Singles (Never seen the movie, but love the soundtrack).
      3) Vanilla Sky
      4) This is Spinal Tap
      5) Pulp Fiction

      I do like 2001 and Saturday Night Fever. A Minneapolis band I go see a couple times a year does a super cool, trippy version of 2001. It’s especially good if they add a second guest guitarist, which has happened a few times.

      • Don’t think I ever heard the sound track for the Good, Bad and Ugly, or for Vanilla Sky, and I watched both.

        Singles is pretty cool.

        Don’t know if I consider Spinal Tap a soundtrack. Kinda like the Wall or Labyrinth, part musical?

        2001 would be a supercool soundtrack to rift off. If you have any footage of them, share it. If they take requests, tell them to do the themes song for Clock Work Orange!

        • Cormonster

          I looked it up, and here’s a version of 2001. Not the greatest quality, so it doesn’t quite do justice to hearing it live.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTvVQr0wIgM

          Circle of Heat is a great live band. Their own music is funk rock with some Zappa-ish tendencies. I’ll have to ask them about Clockwork Orange next time I see them live. They do an eclectic mix of covers mixed into their sets, from Allman Brothers and Gov’t Mule (usually my requests!) to Rage Against the Machine and a bunch of other genres. The guitarist plays in the exact same style as Derek Trucks and can tear it up. The whole band is great.

    • AlbertInTucson

      My 5 favorites off the top of my thinning head:

      A Hard Day’s Night.

      The Big Country

      The Magnificent 7 (1960)

      Hatari

      Saturday Night Fever

    • BearDown100393

      Reservoir Dogs

  • Irish Sweetness


    DaBearsBlog

    @dabearsblog

    Why in gods name should it be non-profit? Make people pay for good art.

    Keep art for the rich??? Elitist, Sir!

    • willbest

      The problem here is Jeff not understanding that non-profit doesn’t mean no salary. That is somewhat understandable because the term has at least 3 common understandings.

      In Jeff’s mind non-profit = no pay or substantially reduced pay. At its core non-profit simply means that anything that would be profit gets paid out as salary instead. There are lots of non-profit hospitals where all the doctors are pulling 500k+ and the administrators might even be clearing 1m though. When these hospitals end up with more money than that however they tend to reinvest it into new hospital wings, diagnostics equipment, more administrative bloat, etc.

      I think the implication here is that somebody like the Gates or Ford foundations should sponsor free theater productions. So the actors, designers, playwright all get paid, but its not like Hamilton where the producer who after 2 years of sellout crowds at $500+ a ticket has a Scrooge McDuck vault of a hundred dollar bills that he swims around in.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Congratulations to Andre Ward for landing his last three punches under Kovalev’s belt to end the fight.

    Ward’s last three testicle shots were right on the money.

    • CanadaBear

      When you pull your trunks up to Urkel territory, they all look low.

  • BearDown100393

    Happy Halas Day.

  • willbest

    “Adam Shaheen continues to impress in Bears minicamp. He made an
    outstanding catch in Wednesday’s practice. That could be a trend.” – somebody Jeff tweeted at.

    Good lord man. An (as in 1) catch could be a trend…. Put the kool-aid down until the preseason please.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      or you could read it as he CONTINUES to impress, an example would be the outstanding catch on Wed.

      I understand not getting too excited about minicamps. However it is the first time people are getting a look at the new guys, especially a small school player like Shaheen, and they have to report something.

    • Guess it’s better than the alternative.

      “Shaheen totally getting owned at the next level. Can’t even disengage off the LOS, and dropped several balls thus far”

      • willbest

        True dat

    • AlbertInTucson

      Back in the day the tight end hoopla was over James “Robocop” Thornton.

      He was a real physical specimen.

      And that was it.

      • CanadaBear

        Not true. He had a great nickname too.

        • AlbertInTucson

          He never lived up to it.

          • CanadaBear

            No doubt. He sure looked good at the gym.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Happy Father’s Day, fellow Bear Fan Dads!

  • BearDown100393

    Eric Decker is a Titan.

    • AlbertInTucson

      1 year deal, I believe.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    it’s been a week, how about a new thread. Anything? I’d even take a rant on how bad the offseason is. Maybe get a guest writer like GP and allow him to babble about the ways he is so much better than a lot of us cuz he lives in Chicago, or how all reporters are right on all their analysis about the Bears.

    • CanadaBear

      I would agree with you about a new thread but Jeff put so much effort into this one I’m guessing he’s just not ready to move on to a new one.

      • Scharfinator

        Hah, good shit!

    • BearDown100393

      Bloggin’ like Trestman

  • willbest

    A unanimous Supreme Court ruled that an Asian rock band could trademark the name “The Slants”

    Why do I bring this up? As the article points out, this probably means the Redskins will get to keep the name.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/06/19/supreme-court-upholds-offensive-trademarks-form-free-speech/100618478/

    • BearDown100393

      I really don’t caaaaarrrrrrreeeeeeeee except I do caaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeee if anything stands in the way of Dan Snyder making money.

  • BearDown100393
    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Pace taught him that.

  • BearDown100393

    Golf tweets are bountiful but football posts are extinct.

    • SC Dave

      That’s because nobody cares about golf.

      • BearDown100393

        Except the guy who is supposed to write about da Bears.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    ask and you shall receive. new thread.

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