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If Bears Want to Be Taken Seriously in Rodgersless NFC North, They Must Win Sunday

| October 16th, 2017

For five minutes, our eyes left the corner. That same corner where television after television has exclusively shown Bears games at Josie Woods Pub for the last seventeen years. Our eyes didn’t go far, just about six feet west to a second, smaller television above the bottles of Boodles gin. Churchill’s gin. My gin until I woke up on an  subway train at Coney Island at five in the morning.

Aaron Rodgers was down. Last time it was Shea McClellin, in navy. This time it was Anthony Barr, in purple. Different first-round edge rushers. Same bone.



Rodgers knew the second he hit the ground. A bunch of lubricated Bears fans in an underground Village bar knew it too. Rodgers isn’t playing football again this season. And while that is terrible news for a league losing too many star players each week, there won’t be many sympathetic hearts at Halas Hall or Eden Prairie or wherever the hell the Lions’ offices are.

The Rodgers injury swings the NFC North door open but will it open wide enough for the Bears – currently two games back of the lead – to find their way through? It’s still premature for this 2017 group to consider the playoffs a possibility but the Rodgers injury likely means the division will be won with ten victories instead of twelve.

Before the Bears start thinking about winning ten games, they need to find a way to win back-to-back games for the first time since November 2015. The Carolina Panthers are not the Baltimore Ravens. Sunday at Soldier Field the Bears will face a good team coming off a tough home loss to the Eagles. They have a big, strong-armed quarterback, a couple power forwards on the outside and a defense that plays as tough as head coach Ron Rivera. The Bears won’t win this game running the ball fifty-four times.

And winning this game is the only way the Bears can validate any talk around their “making a run”. Winning this game is the only way an argument can be made for the Bears taking advantage of their oldest rival’s Sunday misfortune. A win moves them to 3-4, a stone’s throw from .500, with a schedule that looks less and less formidable as the weeks progress.

A loss moves them to 2-5 and more than likely three games back of a Vikings team that has already beaten them in Chicago. (I can’t see the Ravens beating the Vikings defense next weekend but who the hell knows in this crazy league.) If you’re magic number is ten wins, you’d have to believe this group is capable of finishing 9-1 if they lost Sunday. Spoiler alert: they’re not.

Sunday is the first true test for the Biscuit Boys. The result will determine if this season will be all about development and the future or if the 2017 Chicago Bears are potentially playing meaningful games into the winter. Maybe even one on Week 17, New Year’s Eve, Minneapolis?

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  • willbest

    Stop the Carolina running game, and short passes. Make Cam beat you on throws over 15 yards.

    On the Rodgers hit we have talking heads prattling on about giving even more protection for the QB.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/16/aaron-rodgers-injury-may-usher-in-a-radical-rules-change-and-other-week-6-thoughts/

    • Bear Instincts
    • WP4Life

      erin was out of the pocket. No 1 step rule there, he is a normal football player

      • willbest

        You aren’t allowed to tackle anybody who isn’t in possession of the football unless you were committed to the process when they had it.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          looked to me like he was committed to it.

          • CanadaBear

            Very committed. Barr was late getting there but it’s not like he teed off on Rodgers. I’ve heard people crying saying Barr pinned his arm down. Total BS. Erin stuck his arm out on the way down and landed awkwardly to say the least. I howled when Erin was swearing at Barr. I’m sure Barr was scared!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Erin just doesn’t like it rough… Erin was swearing at Barr, because Barr ignored Erin’s safe word.

          • CanadaBear

            Was it anything like the safe word in Euro Trip?

          • AlbertInTucson

            It’s like the celebrity who gets pulled over for a traffic stop.

            “Do you you know who I am?!”

          • willbest

            To which the answer is now “just one of the 5,000 women Weinstein groped”

          • CanadaBear

            I was pretty surprised when Reese Witherspoon apologized publicly for being drunk and obnoxious (saying that exact quote).

          • willbest

            He didn’t reach out his arm to wrap up Rodgers until after the ball was out of Rodgers hand. See around the 29 second mark

            https://sports.yahoo.com/aaron-rodgers-wasnt-happy-anthony-barrs-hit-dirty-203227321.html

            And from the angle at around the 19 second mark you can see he was a good 3 yards away from rodgers when the ball left. It took him 2 full steps to touch rodgers and you can see clearly that Rodgers was completely done with his follow through on his throwing motion.

            As I said in the last thread, it was a late hit, but it was a clean tackle otherwise.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            3 yards? I wish my girlfriend had your skills of measurements.

          • willbest

            He takes 2 full strides at running speed to reach Rodgers which given that he is 6’5″ is almost assuredly over 7 feet per stride or 14 feet. Of course in that same time Rodgers takes a side step away from him so I subtracted that.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            it was barely more than a step.

          • Chris Flynn

            Nobody puts Baby in the corner. LOL Sounds like you want Jolie Rodgers to retire and dance in slippers when he heals up. Green Bay fans don’t say sh#t when Flavio runs around late hitting QBs but the minute Rodgers gets hurt they pull out the Zapruder Film. LOL

        • WP4Life

          The defensive player was committed as soon as the ball was snapped. This special treatment of Rodgers is unbelievable. Winston took a similar hit last night.

          • BerwynBomber

            I’d argue Brady gets the most special treatment.

            Remember two league rules were changed/instituted because of Brady.

          • WP4Life

            I’d stipulate to that. IMO. Its Brady and Erin who get the most special treatment. (we don’t play Brady 2x a year)

        • BerwynBomber

          Yeah, it was a borderline play. I can see Rodgers being pissed. I can also see MIN saying it was perfectly legit.

        • WP4Life

          A textbook is one thing when compared to how textbook is applied in pattern of practice. I for one will never give gb any breaks.

          • willbest

            I am not really bent out of shape about it. Defense is trained to play to the echo of the whistle, so occasionally they are going to go bit too far. There wasn’t anything dirty about the play since it wasn’t blatantly late.

          • WP4Life

            10-4

          • AlbertInTucson

            But, as that kickoff returned showed, Bears defenders still don’t always “Play to the whistle”.

    • Irish Sweetness

      They can’t run the ball and they’re not great at passing it. Has Fangio got the sand to clog the lanes? Can Logout reduce his runs to about 60%? Will he trust Mitch to run the offense?

  • CanadaBear

    The Bears being in the running for the division title is a pipe dream. Ain’t gonna happen. I’ll just enjoy the Fudgies floundering around and hopefully losing every week. I wouldn’t count out Erin for this season. Depending on how bad the break is, this will probably be around 8-weeks until he can come back.

    • Bear Instincts

      We can win the division however it will require perfection or close to it:

      1.Fox has to start coaching to win
      2.The playbook needs to be opened up
      3.We trade for a quality WR

      If these things happen we can make a run for the division

    • BerwynBomber

      Throwing shoulder this time. And he is four years older.

      The league won’t see Rodgers on the field until next summer.

      • CanadaBear

        I knew it was the throwing shoulder this time. It’s typically a 6-8 week recovery. I’ve broken mine once and it was all of 8 weeks (of course, I was in my mid 50’s when I broke it).

        • AlbertInTucson

          Is that when you finally took the trapeze in the bedroom down?

          • CanadaBear

            Nah, just put a net in!

          • AlbertInTucson

            Ah, HAH!
            A tacit admission as to how your collarbone bought it!

      • willbest

        I suppose the question is whether or not the Packers find a way to stick around .500. If they are still in the hunt come week 15 he will be back.

    • Shea softened him up!

    • Chris Flynn

      With a different coaching staff, I think the Bear’s WOULD be in it. Biscuit is handcuffed and extremely controlled under Fox and Friends. The only time they let him pass is when they absolutely HAVE to. Next year it’ll be different.

      • CanadaBear

        We can only hope.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Let’s see them get .500 before we dream of being in the running.

  • Cooper

    We would need a non-Birdcage OC to start to score points, enough to control clocks and win games.

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/55/1a/77/551a7724625fe9d143e07fb77f57bbf8–the-birdcage-classic-movies.jpg

    • I have concluded that Fox and Fangio are just DUMB and passive.

      That’s likely why the Bears come out like zombies 90%. That’s why it seems like they never take advantage of the opponent’s weakness. That’s why if games are close by halftime, the other team makes adjustments to win while Bears coaches plant thumb up ass. And that’s nothing to say of all the game changing penalties, sloppy play, or gameday decisions/playbook.

      Birdcage was my #1 concern last season (hence the name). I asked, what HC doesn’t take his OC with him? Obviously Gase didn’t think much of Birdcage or he would’ve taken him to MIA.

      Birdcage looked horrible at first, but that was stuck w Cutler, so understandable.

      Once the team switched to Hoyer they were much more competitive.

      With Barkley, started off strong, but he Cultered it by the end.

      So the report card was incomplete, esp since he did get Howard going, and Cam became a thing (esp with Hoyer).

      So the arrow was pointing up. However, this year Birdcage absolutely seems, well, like Birdcage. Overly cautious and predictable.

      Trub is better than all those other QBs he had to work with last year. Trub has had an entire offseason, and sat four games soaking up the NFL. He needs to be put in better positions to win.
      Those 3rd and longs (due to predictable playcalling) are killing drives, and maybe Trub’s confidence.

      It’s hard to build mojo when your OC is a cuck.

      I understand our WR corps is a handicap, but that doesn’t mean you can’t try to be aggressive.

      Howard is basically willing the team to wins. It’s really quite something. He’s a big time baller and even with a bum shoulder he refuses to lose or even come out of games.

      If this team didn’t have Howard Bears would prob be winless.

      • It’s all part of the plan

        you’ve become the boy who cried “Cutlered”
        Barkley had 8 TD’s and fucking 14INT’s in 7 games as a bear. Stop revising history god damnit. You are urinating on credibility. It’s weird. It’s over man.

        • “Barkley had 8 TD’s and fucking 14INT’s”

          Exactly, He turned into a turnover machine – like Cutler.

          Except with out the arm strength.

          • It’s all part of the plan

            and without the fucking scoring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            best qb in history of bears

      • CanadaBear

        FFS Foxy wanted to take the air out of the ball the entire game. They did and they won. It was a horrible game to watch but they won. Every game isn’t going to be centered around developing MT. They are trying to win some games. All this play calling crying is getting old. Can they do better? Fuck an A. But they won.

    • It’s all part of the plan
  • Cooper

    Do we have a sane lawyer on the blog capable of helping dissect Kap’s case for us?

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/10/16/colin-kaepernick-nfl-grievance-collusion-cba-lawsuit

    • willbest

      How much of a coward does one need to be to anonymously throw insults at a person you have blocked?

    • I’m no lawyer, only play one on tv, but from what I hear collusion cases are nigh impossible to prove.

      There would have to be some sorta memo, or other hard evidence, or getting the owners under a polygraph or something.

      Owners are insulated by walls of lawyers to prevent any of that.

      Still, Glad Kap at least is doing what he is. At the very least it’ll reveal some of the inner mechanisms of what goes on. And, who knows? maybe a drunk Irsay is caught on record colluding or something.

      • Cooper

        Why are they talking about vacating the CBA?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Can we rewind on the ” only play one on tv …” comment and verify?

        Logan Five … that was a joke … confirm.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Is there such a thing as a sane lawyer?

    • Bear Instincts

      Unless you have a nose candy loving owner sending pics and videos to a stripper it’s not going to happen. I want Kap to win as much as the next guy. Talent like his should be out there. How many bum QB’s not worth their jock straps have jobs while hes still sitting at home.

      The shield is powerful and is trying to set an example.

  • Think my biggest gripe on this team is that they never seem to build momentum.

    Every win feels like they homered into it as opposed to earning it.

    Instead of making me feel excited that they finally got it together, their wins simply make me exhale in relief.

    This past Raven’s game is a perfect example. Bears should’ve CRUSHED them. The Raven’s O was horrendous, and Howard was robust in spite of 8 man boxes.

    On top of that, our D not only forced TOs, but SCORED on one. Don’t even remember the last time we got one of those.

    And after ALL that, Bears STILL gave Ravens chance to win by allowing 2 special teams scores (and even 30 seconds to get it into FG range with a great Kicker).

    Won it in OT, but even the announcers were saying it should’ve never came to that.

    Just anticlimactic wins which somehow make the coaches look as horrible as some close losses.

    That’s probably why the Bears haven’t won back to backsince, what, 2015?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I will take anticlimactic wins over climactic losses every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

      • The problem with anticlimactic wins is that they don’t build confidence, momentum or form identities.

        See, back-to-back wins, Nov 2015.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          I don’t know Butch. That team showed some swagger yesterday all day long. I think they’re finding some confidence right now. And I really feel like the removal of Glennon changes that dramatically. They know Trubisky is going to make mistakes. But they also know he’s not going to limp dick them out of wins. That kid plays hard and they seem to be responding. Feels like they’re rallying around him to me.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Mitch’s wings were clipped by his playcaller. But if he had any Jimmy Mac in him, he’d just audible to a pass. They’re going to put Glennon back in? There’d be a revolution.

            McMahon turned up on his first day of work holding a beer can. He was always going to do it his way and make it his team.Can Mitch do that?

            He needs to put a middle finger up to this douchebag and call the plays that work. He can do that, he’s the starting quarterback. Loggains is just some cum-stain that gets washed out next season.

            A leader leads.

    • AlbertInTucson

      LeBlanc had a pick 6 in Detroit last December.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Seems to be some mystery surrounding Luke Kuechly’s status this week and weather or not he is in the concussion protocol.

    • His 3rd concussion if I remember correctly, one of which made him cry like a baby and not remembering it.

      We’ll see how much integrity the Panther’s medical staff has.

      It also might be the case that the Panthers think they could beat the Bears without him anyways.

      • CanadaBear

        If the medical/coaching staff buried this, they should be kicked out of the league. Everyone has to take these KO’s seriously on a personal level.

        I get people trying to work their way around them and until we knew how bad the problem was, totally got a kick out of someone getting KO’d from the other team. My favorite part of the vid on Dick Butkus from NFL films is Russ Grimm talking about a rookie that got KO’d by Butkus and was wandering around on the sideline saying “I don’t know who I am.” Grimm is laughing telling the story. Not so funny now.

    • CanadaBear

      He’s really going to have to do some soul searching. To be that good and love the game that much vs his long term mental health. When you’re our age that’s a really easy decision. At his age, it’s got to be a toughie.

      • He’s in his prime.
        If he retired, it would almost be unprecedented. Who was the last great football star to walk away in his prime?

        Megatron and Sanders were both in their 30s, I think.

        Patrick Willis was kinda young.

        But if Luke did retire, that would be a HUGE blow to the NFL and send a msg to lots of youth football players.

        • CanadaBear

          100%. I wouldn’t blame him one bit.

          • And it should be noted that Willis’ foot made him retire.
            Only other guy I could think of is Chris Borland who was a budding star but retired due to concussion, some which stretched back to college.

        • willbest

          Megatron?

          • willbest

            bleh I didn’t read all the way through.

        • BearDown100393

          I’d rather it be a blow to the NFL’s cloak and dagger approach to concussions than that young man’s brain being scrambled permanently.

          Let the docs be in charge.

        • Bear Instincts

          His health is more important than his money. He wont be able to enjoy the money when his brain is mush: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHxyP-nUhUY

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            He’s already screwed. Might as well play ball at this point.

  • BerwynBomber

    Lurked on a Cheese blog/thread for a spell at lunch. Their fans seem split. Some want the team to make a run at Romo or Kap. Others are suggesting they stick with Hundley and their 3rd stringer and use the rest of the season to evaluate and develop young players.
    Were I them I’d go the latter route. Hell, maybe even get a top 10 draft slot out of it.
    Rodgers ain’t coming back. This ain’t 2013. He was four years younger and that was his non-throwing shoulder. Throwing shoulders are a whole different level of complication. Next time the league will see him suited up will be summer.
    Can the Bears compete with MIN and DET for the title? I suppose. But that MIN loss will loom large, and thought DET looks iffy now, I wouldn’t be shocked if they rebound at some point in the season.
    But the Cheese are done. That was a one man band up there. And McCarthy is a far, far cry from Belichick.
    Onto CAR.

    • willbest

      Kap ain’t running that offense. And their o-line is in shambles so I doubt Romo is going to be at all interested in leaving the booth unless you are offering him Rodgers money.

      Are we past the trade deadline? We should offer them butt fumble for their 2nd.

      • If we really wanted to screw them, send them glennon!

        • Irish Sweetness

          Oh that’s fucking beautiful!

      • Bear Instincts

        Not a bad idea but Pace wants him to mentor MT10. Can we throw the Giraffe Gaff in there for free?

      • BerwynBomber

        I would assume McCarthy will run a lot more read-option with a guy like Hundley (than they would with Rodgers).

        But yeah, the Romo/Kap stuff sounds like fantasy. And dumb fantasy at that.

        Take your lumps if you’re GB. Hell, if their fans were smart root for a competitive collapse the rest of the way. Provided Rodgers comes back as the same player (no given btw), you’re better off moving higher up in the draft than having some worthless 8-8 year.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      For sure. And Romo nor Kap can approach what Rodgers stitches together from nothing. They just have to take their medicine the rest of this year. And fuck’em. They’ve had enough bounce their way.

    • Irish Sweetness

      With our defense? And IFF Mitch is turned loose ….blended nicely witht he run?

      This division is ours … IFF Fox wants it. he needs to put a fire under Dowell Loggains.

  • FF notes.

    Unless Sac’s TE scores 40 tonight, I’ll likely be 6-0 and the leading point scorer of the week and season. Given that I won the championship in 15, I’ll make that 4 wins. Was 11-2 last yr. and now 6 game win streak, that puts me at roughly 21-2 . Add another notch to my club!.

    Shady went from 0-2 to 4-2 and back on the prowl.
    Bears 505 in spite of losing both David Johnson and ODB also at 4-2 with defeat of Waffle
    Fres getting a much needed win over NBIT, and Ender FINALLY FINALLY over the Kooti-Kurse and upsetting Artoo to get his first win and bragging rights.

    But, as with the NFL, FF is a game of attrition and sound weekly decisions.

    Anything is possible, and lil known players tend to get on hot streaks beginning now.

    Bears win. I win. Vadgers out. Puke lose.

    Perfect weekend

    (I also was taking shots of Johhny Walker Blue on sat! )

    • Cooper

      Man I hope Shady wrecks you in the Championship

      #PoeticJustice

      #Shady2017

      • Never know. The only thing I dislike about playoffs is that end of season it’s more about luck and circumstance.

        Like if the Chiefs clinch home field advantage week 15 or something, that means they’ll likely sit Alex Smith and Hunt or sit many starters which would screw me over.

        Or if the Bears are eliminated from playoffs, I could see them sitting Howard, etc

        Almost have to keep an eye for borderline playoff teams to play starters those last few weeks.

    • Sactowns#1

      Keep hope alive!!!!
      IF I do fall this week it will just make victory that much sweeter when we meet again.

      • With you and Artoo losing, it’s all up for grabs now.

        Shady and Bears 505 now joins you guys with 4-2

  • Biscuit Boys?

    Is that a 1950s gang like the Sharks and the Jets?

  • Bears-4-Ever

    You have to contain Cam. If he starts bootlegging looking for an open receiver and finds nothing he’ll run and he will do it well. When he does we need to blast him into next week. Ring his bell a few times and he will play hurt, when he does he makes mistakes. We must contain him at all costs.

    Second, we need to throw the ball DOWN FIELD…let the Kid throw deep for a change, check downs will not get us 1st downs. That being said we have to have our fastest WRs running all out posts to get open…that being said we need to have the Oline start protecting the kid better and give him a few more seconds in the pocket. Yeah I know I ask a lot but hey, we can win this!

    Playoffs? Really?….Really? You dream my friends, we ain’t making the play-offs with Fox…No way no how…HE NEEDS TO GO. We have talent, LOTS of it and it’s being wasted on sub-standard coaching.

    • BearDown100393

      He has to be flattened early in the game. As in face guard caked with mud and grass. Rattle him.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        Trevathan will get his chances.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      This team has an outside shot at the playoffs. Not quite a miracle, but a long shot.

      As far as Fox, yeah, I’d guess he’s gone. But that’s kind of been the unspoken plan since Emery was shit canned. It’s time for Pace to hire his own guy. He’s proving his ability to build a roster, and Fox was clearly a transition coach. And for good reason. He’s a seasoned vet with enough experience to undo the Trestman mess. Now the roster has its building blocks in place, and we have a quarterback with natural athletic ability and talent that needs a real coach. It’s time. And I’m guessing with the pieces of the puzzle beginning to fall into place, we’ll see some very real candidates emerge after this season. The Bears arrow is most definitely pointing up. Get Trubisky headed the right direction, and we’re good to go.

      • I’m just hoping that NOW Pace will actually be a real player in FA.

        Cuz if not, it’s gonna be more of the same.

    • Luckily our D is used to playing contain on QBs with Rodgers in our division.

      Hicks is playing like a maniac. Both him and Goldman collapse the pocket and wall off the run. As long as those two are healthy, it’ll be difficult for most QBs to just take off and run (and Floyd is fast on the outside).

      In some ways, Cam is the opposite of what we normally play. He’s one of the few QBs who still looks to throw deep. He’s not a WCO type QB dinking-and-dunking, so he’ll stress our S.

      Amos esp better be on his game again or Cam will target him deep.

      On O, it’s a broken record. We all scream to Throw some deep balls to loosen up the boxes, but it never happens because Fox/Birdcage are scared.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Goldman’s looking good because they have to chip Hicks.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yup. Throw a spy on Cam all day and make him beat you with his arm. He is at best an average passer (though he does have a cannon).
      Were less likely to make the playoffs because we are basically 2.5 games behind MIN, and would have to leapfrog them and DET to win the division.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Nobody throws the deep ball less than the bears. That’s an official stat over 30 yards.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Martavus Bryant has asked the Steelers to trade him.

    • BearDown100393

      That ship ain’t right.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Not enough footballs for him AND Antonio Brown.

        • BearDown100393

          Supposed to be about the Ws and not the personal TDs. But hey, when in Steeltown…..

          • Primadonna WR? nevah!

            Bryant on the Bears would at least force teams to not just roll up the S in the box.

          • leftcoastdave

            Let AJ come crawling back.

  • BearDown100393

    Nobody ever sheds a tear in Green Bay for the Bears. If the charter disappeared into the Andes and Hicks resorted to eating his teammates for survival, Packer fans would rejoice with glee. Rodgers receives every special privilege on the field from the officials unparalleled with his peers – Brady included. I’m sure the Packers as teammates are sick about losing their key guy toward any hope for making a run. And that is probably where the sympathy ends. With Rodgers, it is likely business only. As for likeability, he ain’t Brett Favre.

    Injuries happen. Move on.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      Let me clean that up for you. “Fuck’em”

      • BearDown100393

        That works.

    • BerwynBomber

      Don’t know about the Favre love/Rodgers hate. Gotta assume Brett’s hillbilly diva act wore on his Cheese teammates (especially in the later years), though I have no doubt he was less aloof than Rodgers and more beloved among the Cheesehead fans if only because he was more durable and less cerebral.

      But I would argue that Brady is the most protected player in the league. Remember, the NFL changed/instituted two rules because of him.

      • Cucj Cooper

        The Brett Girl made football exciting for fan base whose team had sucked pretty much for decades before he came to Green Bay. Sadly, since McMahon, we haven’t had a QB that could hold his jock strap.

      • That Guy

        Buddy of mine from Appleton has family in Green Bay, and says Favre was pretty much disliked locally. Apparently he was a royal dick in his pill-addict days, drank a lot and literally pissed all over town.

        Dunno how much those bad feelings among GB residents affect how most fans see him, but I think the dick pics, the unretirement, and then playing for the Vikes really soured a lot of fans on Bretty-boy.

        • BerwynBomber

          Yup. Had an old college buddy from Wisky who told similar stories too of Favre, Winters, and Chumra. One story involved Favre seated near a grand piano in a ballroom and literally eating (and cutting) his steak on the surface of said piano because Brett though it was funny and others had to indulge him. So the pissing all over town stuff sounds similar.

          Plus, there were those reports about him demanding a separate room for his locker, and of course by the end GB had to deal with all that will he/won’t he play to deal with every year.

          Rodgers reminds me a bit of Cutler. More smirky, a bit more smartass, but less put out and disengaged (than Jay). He seems well-liked by his teammates but he is aloof.

          But he doesn’t strike me as a diva (nor did Jay). But Favre? Dude seemed as diva as some of the league’s WRs. Just the hillbilly version of it.

      • A7Xthebest

        Nah Rodgers is protected by far more.

        • BerwynBomber

          Okay, whatever you say Trump. Hey, now do us a favor and resign.

          • willbest

            I thought the general consensus among you lefties was that Pence would be worse.

          • BerwynBomber

            He will be as bad (and in some cases worse) but I trust Pence more with the nuclear codes than I do Trump. Otherwise, stick a gun to my head, and yes, I’d probably choose Trump. But with the nuclear codes involved? No thanks.

    • leftcoastdave

      You mean like MJ who carried the basketball every time he drove to the basket?

      Kind of like that?

      Yea, I agree.

  • BearDown100393

    “Fox is doing what he’s done THREE TIMES PREVIOUSLY: building a great defense.”

    Fox? Are you kidding me?

    FANGIO

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      Wait. I thought we hated Fangio.

      • BearDown100393

        A little less than Hobo.

      • BerwynBomber

        What’s today?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Not yesterday. That was all reserved for Logout.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Fangio has almost no input in who the Bears sign and draft.

  • CanadaBear

    When DT KO’d Adams I read comments from Fudgies hysterically crying it was the dirtiest hit they had ever seen. They must be in a frenzy about now! Fuck those cheesehead bastards.

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  • chitownproud85

    Crazy train is boarding once again.

  • Cooper

    Still better than Soldier Field

    https://youtu.be/G4ZwYyRZamE?t=130

  • BerwynBomber

    So has the Pats/NYJ controversy been discussed yet?

    Here is my thing. I’m WAY less concerned about what the NFL defines as a catch than how they continually contradict the “indisputable evidence” portion of replay. The call on the field should require indisiputable evidence to overturn it but often times that doesn’t seem the case.

    It is a pretty basic concept. Don’t know why the league has such trouble with it.

    • CanadaBear

      Totally agree. My issue is every time there seems to be a controversial play the call always seems to favor NE.

      • BerwynBomber

        There was a bad interference call in that game too — think it was on MB’s draft crush Adams who was 1-on1 with Gronk.

        Ah well. Bad calls happen. But I’m dumbfounded by how often reviews are fucked up. And also how long some take.

  • BerwynBomber

    So AP has a flashback day. A bit surprised.

    Oh, and someone (Al?) was wondering about Kuechly earlier. Report is that he passed the concussion test so presumably he’ll be playing Sunday.

    • Of course he is. It’s not as if Howard is a bowling ball of destruction when he lowers his pads.

      If Luke plays, he’s gonna be skywalking by the end of the 3rd.

    • Irish Sweetness

      (shrugs)

      Let’s give him another one.

      AM I RIGHT???

  • Sactowns#1

    Can anyone tell what the hell Zach Millers celebratory pantomime was after the TD?

    • CanadaBear

      No clue. I’m glad these guys are entertaining themselves because nobody else knows.

    • Lower middle class critic

      He’s opening a safe and shoveling cash into it.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I thought he was doing the Tito Ortiz “Bury the body”?

    • Irish Sweetness

      I love Hicks’ sack dance.

  • WP4Life

    I would like to see:
    Lets first start with being competitive for a full game, no botched snaps, or missed defensive calls, and stupid penalties, etc…
    From there if we are in the game lets not give it away.

  • beninnorcal

    We aren’t beating the Panthers.

    • Cuck Cooper

      Ben, who made you nostradamus? They are very capable of beating themselves. Hee hee

    • If the Gmen can beat the Donks after a bye at home w out WRs, anything is possible.

      • beninnorcal

        Sure, anything’s possible, and I would love to be proven wrong, but c’mon.

        • Few reasons Bears have a shot.

          At home. Hey better than road?
          Cam looks in form, BUT he just threw 3 INTs.
          Their run game doesn’t match up withour Dline
          We have a stout Dline that mostly keeps contain.
          Fangio doesn’t blitz, so I don’t think Cam will have a big day running.

          Reasons we will lose.

          -Fox. Zombie opening
          -Fox. Bumbling penalized uninspired play management
          -Fox. Out coached during half time
          – Conservative predictable O plays.
          -More Fox.

          • CanadaBear

            I meant to post to you earlier that Foxy would want to take the air out of the ball if he had both Brady and Rodgers.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, that’s Foxy. And in the future it might prove maddening but with rookie with two games and one year of major college football under his belt, I don’t have a problem with it.

            Btw, look at Gase micro-manage Cutler. Gase has some interesting schemes but largely he neuters Cutty to cut down on the TOs.

            And guess what? It seems to work. Last year Gase goes 10-6 with Tannenhill and Moore. This year he’s 3-2 with Cutty.

            Gase is kinda doing the Belichick w/out Brady stuff, except there is no Brady waiting in the wings.

          • MIAs D is balling.

            The AFCE is more competitive than anyone imagined at the start of the season.

            If the Jets would’ve beat the Pats, they would have been in 1st!

            Crazy.

            And the other team that was supposed to tank, the Bills, are a tough out.

            And yeah, Gase has turned Cutler into old Alex Smith, which must infuriate his fans who love the gunslinger.

            He’s more gamemanager than slinger now adays.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yup, although (at the risk of pissing off the Cutlerites) Cutler ain’t near as good as Smith.

            But yeah gotta be impressed with how Gase has done so far. 13-8 thru his first 21 games. That said I suspect the whole micro-managing of Cutler can only be sustained so long.

          • Irish Sweetness

            They can’t run it though.

          • BerwynBomber

            MIA? Well, they run it better than they pass it. They’re 29th in running. They’re 32nd in passing.

            Jay’s a cuck now. Except for ’15 he has been trending that way for four years.

          • My issue with the playcalling is that it can be both safe AND creative.

            For instance, read options.

            Has Trub even run ONE read-option?

            This isn’t rocket science. The read-option stresses D and opens up lanes to pass and run.

            Shoot, even the Foreskins use Cousins with the read, and he’s a slow ass compared to Trub.

            The read-option is much safer than 7 step bombs, so why not use it? And Trub was used to running them. Again, so why not, esp near the redzone?

            Could use a lot of other safe but creative plays.

            The jet sweep with Cohen while Howard is HB. Again, stress the D. Open up the lanes.

            Tonight I saw a diamond formation and shuffle pass for major yds.
            Could use the same exact formation and run it with 3 diff guys, or PA and hit the TE sneaking out into the flats.

            QB draws? Go empty, spread them out, draw. How can this NOT gain 4 yds with our inside of Long, WH and Sitton?

            and it’s not as if Birdcage seems averse to some gambling – that 2 point last week and Cohen throwing a TD seem way more high risk than any of the plays I just mentioned (and there were some other botched stuff like reverses).

            I just feel like Trub opens up the entire playbook, but aside from bootlegs, Birdcage still gameplans like Glennon is behind center and it’s infuriating esp when we see the Texans trusting Watson with everything and then some.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      I don’t agree. I’d call it about 60/40 Panthers.

    • leftcoastdave

      We’ve got the best d line in football. A damn good LB corp in need of help in the middle. The dbs are coming around.

      The O?

      We shall see what the game calling produces this week as TK gets his third start.

      • help in the middle? The LB are good up the middle, they need help via edge rush.

      • madscout12

        We don’t have the best D line in football. I’d put the Chiefs and Eagles at least in front of us. Minny has a better line. LAR is better.

      • Irish Sweetness

        We’re around 8th in rushing D, and 14th in passing, Dave.

        Although I like where it’s going based off that game.

    • BerwynBomber

      I don’t know. CAR should be well-rest after a THUR game (as we were this week), but the game is at Soldier and I could see that loss to PHI carrying over another week. And as a passer Cam can be very erratic.

      In fact, if we protect the ball and keep Cam contained as a runner, I see no reason why the game can’t be highly competitive.

  • Cuck Cooper

    “Biscuit Boys”? Lol

    You crack me up Jeff.

  • TBC

    well fuck

  • John Bostic starting for the Colts? Yikes.

  • Hey, there’s a timebandit as ballboy!

  • willbest
  • Brissett looks better than Luck.

  • madscout12
  • BerwynBomber

    Nice bounce back from Mariota after that pick six. Having to play on one leg for a game or two might help his development long-term as it makes him have to rely exclusively on pocket-passing.

    Colts seems surprisingly feisty of late but I’d still jettison Chuck Strong. Wouldn’t be surprised if they pursue Harbaugh given his history with Indy and Luck.

    • Mariota looks very uncomfortable in the pocket.

      Maybe it’s the leg, but this isnt the first time.

      Gruden also noted that he didn’t even use a snap count at Oregon, and he was using the hard count tonight.

      I saw the same from Trub just last week, even making our guys offsides.

      Nice lil details that can keep the chains moving.

      • BerwynBomber

        I thought he looked okay. He took some decent hits and delivered some nice balls.

        But yeah, obviously not his bread and butter. And if he wants a long ass career he better continue to improve.

      • Cormonster

        Hey Mr College Scout, you might want to keep an eye out for Wisconsin’s latest running back Jonathan Taylor. Dude is a true freshman and almost became the first freshman to rush for 1,000 in six games. He’s at 984 with 3 200+ games already and averaging 7.8 yards per carry. 5 freshman have reached 1,000 in 7 games. I think 3 of those are Adrian Peterson, Marshall Faulk, and Hershel Walker. He’s definitely the best looking freshman I’ve seen since Peterson.

        He’s got the complete package – power, speed, strength, and elusiveness. Dude ran a 4.42 40 as a HS senior and won the NJ 100M state championship. He was supposedly clocked at 24 mph on one of his breakaway runs this year, which is 1mph more than Kareem Hunt. He’s about 5’11 and 215. He runs through arm tackles like the guys aren’t even there, and DB’s who don’t wrap up just bounce off him without him even looking like he was touched. He’s definitely someone to keep an eye on.

        • Ah, cool. I’ll make a point to watch a Wisc game or two this yr. I love me some badass RBs.

          AP, Faulk, Walker. Wow. That’s like the holy college trinity for HBs.
          He can catch too?

          Usu Wis has good olines, but that’s quite a feat.

          And all as a true freshman – crazy. He’s only going to get stronger and faster next season.

          I wonder if he leaves college early (after soph yr) if he just demolishes single season records esp since HBs have such a short shelf-life.

          Always thought a phenom HB would do it. Maybe he’s the one.

          • Cormonster

            They haven’t really used him in the passing game yet. He was 5th on the depth chart when fall practices started, but after the second game he was declared the starting back. I think he’s learning as he goes. Only concern is a couple fumbles, but not too worried about that yet. I heard a lot of buzz about him before the season started from players and coaches, and now I can see why after watching a few games. At first I thought maybe it was a bit of a fluke and lack of tough competition, then I realized he was just making stuff look easy because of his power and speed. It doesn’t hurt that Wisconsin is developing a pretty damn good OL right now after having lots of injuries and early retirements the last couple years. They have a lot of good to really good underclassmen on the OL right now.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Half of me wants to see a Fournette/Howard attack. That’s when you can run 80% of the time.

          Good call.

          • Cormonster

            Wisconsin runs it probably 65-70% of the time, but they use 3-4 and sometimes 5 different backs in a game. Different packages for different guys. I know you don’t care for college ball, but if you did you would probably enjoy watching Wisconsin. They are fundamentally sound in all areas and well coached. They try to out physical most teams by pounding the ball and playing great defense (top 5 D the last 4-5 years). They are always one of the least penalized teams in the country every year, only averaging like 3 penalties a game. The coach for Wisconsin is a great OC. The Bears coaches could learn a lot about play calling by watching Wisconsin. They run a lot of heavy TE sets and run multiple plays out of the same formation, using a lot of motion with the TE’s and lots of play action with designed throws to the TE’s.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s injured. Can’t run.

  • Irish Sweetness

    The sad thing is … the only thing stopping us from winning this division, appears to be in the hands of our OC … when it should be in the hands of our HC. So there’s two problems there.

    I actually liked what I saw out of Fangio’s defense there. Somebody’s going to pick on DHC one day, but he did well by not fucking up too much.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Oh Butch … it’s beautiful … send them Glennon. And a 4th round pick. Giving them a 4th rounder might swing it for us.

  • AlbertInTucson

    From the “Bad Teams Get Bad Calls” Department:

    The Jets got hosed on that fumble call on Sunday.

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