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Early Evidence Suggests Good Things for Trubisky

| May 18th, 2017

There’s beginning to be quite a buzz around Mitch Trubisky.

It’s been almost a month since the draft. The Bears were bashed nationally, with some clowns even calling for Ryan Pace’s job. But more evidence is pouring in and they’ve even played a little football. So far, the early returns are that Trubisky is better than he was sold to be before the Bears made the pick.

It’s often been said that teams never really know what they have in quarterbacks until they get them in their doors. The early returns are promising.

The Bears wanted Trubisky to feel the stress of being an NFL quarterback. They wanted him to feel the weight of the expectations they have for him. They purposely tried to put too much on his shoulders in the rookie minicamp.

The problem is they couldn’t.

One of my very few NFL sources is close to the Bears coaching staff and he said they came away impressed. He was able to soak in everything they threw at him. He absolutely aced his first NFL test.

It wasn’t just the Bears coaching staff that was impressed. You can hear the two best Bears beat guys, Hoge and Jahns, rave about his arm strength and accuracy. Even the Tribune’s Brad Biggs and Rich Campbell didn’t bash him, which means he must’ve been great.

We don’t know if Trubisky can take NFL hits and keep coming. We don’t know how he’ll handle pressure or how he’ll handle adversity. We have no idea how he’ll respond to NFL speed. We won’t know that for a while.

But since the draft some people have come forward with information that should help Bears fans feel better.

Moon Mullin came out last week with a piece in which he cited two AFC scouts who said they had a higher grade on Trubisky than they had on any quarterback in the last six years. An NFC scout told Mullin Trubisky was “almost perfect.”

I don’t know what to do with those quotes because I don’t know who is making those statements. But here’s what I do know: Two teams with decision makers who have hit big on quarterbacks wanted to mortgage the future of their franchises to get Trubisky.

Peter King gave us a lot of great nuggets that he found out from the 49ers draft room. One was that Kansas City had a trade worked out to move up to the fifth pick. But once Trubisky was off the board, so was that trade offer.

Why is this important? Look at the history of Kansas City’s decision makers when it comes to quarterbacks. Here’s a quick list of QBs GM John Dorsey and coach Andy Reid have been involved in acquiring: Brett Favre, Mark Brunell, Donovan McNabb and Aaron Rodgers. Drafting quarterbacks is a crapshoot, but those guys have been pretty good at it and they are convinced that Trubisky is going to be great.

King also said there was a “mystery team” talking to the 49ers. Nobody has been able to pinpoint exactly who that team is, but former NFL GM and current The Ringer contributor Michael Lombardi said he knows New Orleans was trying to move up, “but it wasn’t for a quarterback.”

To make that move, the Saints would’ve had to give up the 11th pick, the 32nd pick, their first round pick next year and probably another high pick. Let’s also keep in mind that the Saints were planning on drafting Patrick Mahomes if he was there at 11. In other words: There’s no way in Hell Sean Payton wasn’t trying to get a quarterback. And that quarterback was Trubisky.

This could all be meaningless. Nobody knows if Trubisky can play until he does. But the evidence we have so far suggests the Bears just might have found their guy.

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  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Trubisky for ROY!

  • Scharfinator

    Hope springs eternal! Nothing wrong with optimism.

  • Sahr Gborie

    S.Peyton v J.Harbaugh. who gets to coach Money Mitch to a SB win?

    • willbest

      Either Harbaugh over Peyton.

  • King of DBB

    Thank God birdcage is his first OC then.

  • Big Mike

    Kool-Aid doesn’t start getting served until the pre-season. Easy boys.

    • willbest

      We all watched Jeff do a 180 on Jeffery in the course of a week when Pace decided to move on. Its clear that Jeff has plenty of it in reserve.

      • Big Mike

        I like Jeff’s thoughts. I believe when Pace moved on from Alshon, Jeff was simply saying he believed in Pace, more than he believed in Alshon. But we’ve all changed positions. I thought drafting Trubisky was shocking. Now I think it might be the best draft move the Bears could have made. The Bears took a shot at changing the direction of their franchise for the next decade. Now other people are coming out of the woodwork and saying Trubisky is the real deal. Wow, wouldn’t that be the shit. Spend the next decade not worrying about drafting a QB.

        Oh man.. I’m in the Kool-aid..

        • leftcoastdave

          I’m on the Kool-aid with Trub still on the bench! This is the best team da Bears have fielded in the trenches (O 6, D 7) since when? Sure, DTre not yet back, Kyle still (?) and two OTs amazingly adequate but gelled, but that makes ALL of the difference in the world. The D line is not just solid, it is now deep with rotation. The O-line has worked together with Whitehair stepping up as play caller. TEs?

          Yep. All that stuff is bigger than the AJ flash and sets the foundation for everybody behind them to excel. Football is won in the trenches.

          • Big Mike

            Trenches baby, build it inside out, front to back. Fuller pisses me off. I watched him in college at VT. He gave no signs of being a baby. I hope it’s not true and he comes back. I think the key to the offense remains, White’s ability to stretch the field. Hard enough to dominate running the ball, damn near impossible if the safeties and corners can cheat up because nobody can get over the top. As different as the game is today, the 85 bears had Gault. It loosened everything up. We have weapons, they just aren’t proven. Therefore we will be mocked and languish in the cellar of all of the rankings.

          • leftcoastdave

            Oh, yes, no question. Have to be able to make them pay when they stack the box. That is also where the Big Daddy and Shaheen can make them pay. I’m expecting a lot more play action and jumbo sets to set the stage for one on one coverage to open up them weapons and give Cam the chance to juke his stop and go to the house.

          • Big Mike

            Who is Big Daddy?

          • CanadaBear

            Lipscome.

          • leftcoastdave

            Mance Lipscome?

          • CanadaBear

            He couldn’t run worth a crap.

          • leftcoastdave

            But could he ever play and sing country blues. “Sugar Babe.”

          • Big Mike

            I still don’t know who that is.

          • CanadaBear

            Sorry. I forget how old I am sometimes. Gene “Big Daddy” Lispscome.

            He was a DT for the Steelers and one of the first really big DL men. 6’6″ and 300 lbs. Not fat. He was a wild man that died of a heroin OD at 31. This was back in the early 60’s.

          • Big Mike

            I knew who he was, I didn’t get the context.

          • CanadaBear

            Because LCD was calling Cohen Big Daddy.

          • leftcoastdave

            He called himself Big Daddy and now Chicken Salad. The kid will be a hoot.

          • Big Mike

            Yeah I didn’t catch that. It’s a great nickname. Big Daddy was 2x Cohen.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I believe he was a Colt.

          • CanadaBear

            Rams, Colts, Steelers in that order.

          • leftcoastdave

            Chicken Salad. The Human Joystick.

          • Big Mike

            The little dude? Calling him Lipscomb is hilarious. I have my doubts about midgets in the NFL. There are literally players 2x his size on the field. There are guys nearly as fast that are 50% bigger. My opinion is that he may be exciting for a ½ dozen plays a year, for a few years.

          • leftcoastdave

            I think he will be exciting in a Barry Sanders kind of way but also think he will get a shot on becoming the next Hester. If half of that pans out, he’ll be a great Joker.

          • Big Mike

            You mean #1 wide receiver hester.. oh hell no. Oh wait. That’s right Hester was a return man.. SMH.

          • leftcoastdave

            Big Daddy has actually played in the slot I think and knows the route tree.

            Hope springs eternal when you’ve been a Cub fan since the days of Kessinger to Beckert to Banks, round the horn to Hundley and Santo and to Fergy on the mound, or was it the Vulture in relief?

          • Big Mike

            Phil Regan in relieve. Completely over used by Durocher. Leo singlehandedly killed that team.

          • SC Dave

            He won’t be Hester. I don’t think we’ll ever see that shit again.

          • willbest

            Hester?

          • Big Mike

            Hester was 5 inches taller and 20lbs heavier then.

          • willbest

            Not talking about size. Just the 5-7 highlight reels a season.

          • Big Mike

            Oh man. What highlights they were. I was thinking about him as a RB, not a Returner.

          • Sahr Gborie

            this sound like a fantasy. d.loggains is the one calling the plays. he could not figure out what to do with j.howard for the longest time

          • leftcoastdave

            Was it that or was it that he had invested in two other RB he had to let have their chance while giving the Rook time to learn and get hungrier while watching the woulda’, coulda’, shoulda’s from the sidelines?

          • CanadaBear

            You have no idea if Pace or Fox was behind Langford starting. Not to mention, Howard might have been so poor at pass blocking he was a liability.

          • leftcoastdave

            Nope. Yep. Best to let him chomp on the bit on the sidelines for a few games.

          • SC Dave

            And yet everyone seems happy our best deep threat went to Philly.

            But we have some new guys and we’ll see real soon what they can do. I am optimistic – so long as Jordan Howard does not get hurt.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            who?

          • Big Mike

            He wasn’t a guy who took the top off of a defense. In fact that was why the idea of White/Alshon was so tantalizing. Don’t get me wrong he was our best deep threat, but most CBs could outrun Jeffery. He was and still is one of the best contested ball receivers in the league. I don’t know if you could say “happy”, but I think most people were resigned to it.

          • CanadaBear

            Some of us were resigned to it but the most vocal on here were openly rejoicing he was leaving. I think that falls under careful what you wish for.

          • Big Mike

            I think the rejoicing fell in line with the idea of “get lost if you don’t want to be here” and “he’s always injured so who needs him”. Combine that with a dose of 3-13, what it would cost to keep him and the fact that Pace didn’t want him, you can see where it came from.

            I argued to the end that you don’t let top end talent go.

          • leftcoastdave

            Our “best deep threat” was a poisonous entitled ‘tude dude who had to get the boot to show peeps that its put up or shut up and hit the road.

          • AlbertInTucson

            White didn’t look like he could stretch the field even BEFORE he broke the leg for the second time.

          • Big Mike

            He was supposed to be able to. 4.33 40 yard dash time. Who knows what he is now. Hopefully more than a possession receiver.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I think the fact that nobody, besides maybe the Bears, was very interested in signing Alshon long term speaks volumes about his current reputation, league-wide.

          However, I will pass on the kook-aid until I see them playing games that mean something.

          • Big Mike

            Indeed.

    • Johnnywad

      I didn’t think we’d see this piece until August.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      maybe not but they have been serving Flavor-Aid.

      http://www.vaiden.net/tpflav.jpg

  • willbest

    “he cited two AFC scouts who said they had a higher grade on Trubisky
    than they had on any quarterback in the last six years. An NFC scout
    told Mullin Trubisky was “almost perfect.”

    I don’t know what to do with those quotes because I don’t know who is making those statements.”

    I do. Best QB in each draft in the last 6 years
    2017 – ???
    2016 – #135 Dak Prescott
    2015 – #2 Marcus Mariota
    2014 – #36 Derrick Carr
    2013 – #16 EJ Manuel
    2012 – #75 Russell Wilson

    The only QB that was best while being drafted highest among QB’s was EJ Manuel and he a) isn’t an NFL starter anymore, and b) has been surpassed by Glennon (#73) in earnings.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    “One of my very few NFL sources is close to the Bears coaching staff and he said they came away impressed. He was able to soak in everything they threw at him. He absolutely aced his first NFL test.”


    Does anyone seriously believe coaches are going to come out and say negative stuff about Trub after 3 days of rookie camp?

    Let’s not go overboard with what he did in shorts without having to read defenses. He is learning the playbook. It is step 1. Good that he did well in step 1.

    • beninnorcal

      I believe coaches could come away with nothing to say about Trub if he was ‘eh’.

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        The only coach on Bears staff (and probably across NFL) who does not sugarcoat one bit is Vic Fangio. His happy to give you a dark assessment the next day after the draft.

        All other coaches, including John Fox, will give you happy talk until reality makes them look like fools.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    A must read piece on how Mike McCarthy worked to develop Aaron Rodgers. If Ryan Pace, Dowell Loggains, Dave Ragone plan this out half as good as what McCarthy did, Trub will turn out pretty good.

    Creating the New Joe Cool

    How Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy have blended new-school tactics with Montana-era West Coast offense principles to bring the Packers to the brink.

    http://grantland.com/features/aaron-rodgers-mike-mccarthy-green-bay-packers-new-age-west-coast-offense/

    • leftcoastdave

      Good find.

  • CanadaBear

    MT looks the part physically, has a very good arm and can move around fairly well. All the physical things are there. It’s what’s between the ears and the coaching that will decide his fate. I truly believe the Bears took such a shit kicking over the pick because they are the Bears. If a really good team moved up to take him I’m pretty sure the media would have given them a handy over the move.

    • willbest

      KC in my mind had the biggest WTF QB moment. They have Alex Smith, and they mortgage their future for Mahomes

      • CanadaBear

        I was hoping the Bears stayed away from Mahomes because he looked like Cutler part deux. Who knows? Andy is a terrible game day coach but he does pretty well with QB’s.

        • Mahomes DEF looked like Cutler film wise.
          Big difference being that Mahomes doesn’t come off like misanthropic sourpuss.
          Mahomes does have that Favre enthusiasm which can be infectious.

        • BerwynBomber

          Mahomes looks most like … Stafford.

          I originally thought Favre, others said Cutty, but as I watched him more he started to resemble Pie Face.

          Anyway, big upside but we all know the guarantees with that.

      • Think you mentioned it, but Reid might’ve got a Favre flashback and thought the risk worth it.

        Hey, at least Mahomes won’t show up to meetings drunk, so he’s got a step up on Atlanta Favre.

        • BerwynBomber

          That was my theory.

          One other thing is Mahomes could provide Reid a little more job security — not that he was no thin ice. But I presume there will be a strong argument to keep Reid around as Mahomes develops. And the latter may not even see the field for any significant time for another couple/few years.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Reid could be on thick ice, and he should worry about it breaking, on the other hand walruses love the water

          • BearDown100393

            Andy Reid on thin ice is a paradox.

          • coo-coo-ka-shoo

    • King of DBB

      Is handy Canadian for handjob?

      • CanadaBear

        I think it might be more universal than that but yes, definitely a hand job.

        • Bender McLugh

          with maple syrup

          • CanadaBear

            That will require some extra cleaning supplies!

        • It is indeed universal.

          Reach around is also acceptable (nttawwt?)

    • Bender McLugh

      bingo! totally agree

    • beninnorcal

      But, in all fairness, they ARE the Bears, so a monstrous grain of salt is needed for most of their ‘brain trust’ decisions. That’s been my experience, anyways.
      I hope for the best though, and that would include Glennon showing up strong this year, Mitchell riding pine, then we go from there..

      • CanadaBear

        Totally agree. It doesn’t help that the Chicago media is about as friendly to the Bears as a case of the clap.

    • Said it all along, Trub has the prerequisite tools.
      But no one has of yet to accurately predict great QBs. It’s like w BUDS training. Who will ring the bell, who won’t?
      Only the trial reveals that.
      As a Bears fan it’s easy to become cynical esp at the QB position, so I’m just hoping Birdcage and gang don’t David Carr his ass.
      That they instill him w good habits, technique, and knowledge so he won’t be completely overwhelmed when he inevitably starts even if it’s for another coaching staff

  • King of DBB

    So Mikey Flynn sayz “F U” to a Senate Subpoena?

    I didn’t know you could do that. Doesn’t that automatically result in “Go to federal prison to be pounded in the ass, do not pass GO, do not collect your pension”?

  • “An NFC scout told Mullin Trubisky was “almost perfect.” – Andy

    Fuck, we should’ve drafted Mullin Trubisky!

  • BearDown100393

    Not sure I can ever listen to Eddie Vedder singing the words “I’m still alive” the same way again. Last one left.

    Mark Lanegan ain’t dead yet.

    • BerwynBomber

      True. But the Trees never reached the sort of successful heights as Nirvana, PJ, Soundgarden, or STP.

  • “Grunge was the only era of music I loved as it was happening. Cobain, Weiland, Cornell all dead. Surreal.”

    Let’s not forget Lane Staley from Alice in Chains.

    And Bradeley Nowell from Sublime (though not grunge).

    Shit, even David Gahan from Depeche Mode was dead for a few minutes from a heroine OD.

    I remember at the time grunge exploded thinking this is a lot like the late 60s – everything radically changed.

    The Beatles weren’t just a band, but a movement.
    Nirvana wasn’t just a band, but a movement.

    Both ushered in a slew of new horizons and practically defined that era.

    Seems to come like every 20 years or so (before that Elvis in the 50s).

    Maybe the next one is close.

    • BearDown100393

      90s – great era

      • CanadaBear

        Whatever era is “your” era is a great era.

        • But some seem more historic than others.

          Elvis, Beatles, Nirvana seems to be the music lineage which reshaped english speaking culture, and by extension, the world.

          • CanadaBear

            It all depends on if the music touches you. You could say the same thing about Rap/Hip Hop. If that’s your thing it fits your description. Elvis was Blues and R&B speeded up and sung by a good looking white guy that could wiggle around. All the Blues/R&B songs he did were by Black people that were never going to get their due. They could sing and dance better than Elvis but they weren’t white.

          • Well yes, I’m more referring to mainstream.

            Like for death metalers, Nirvana was prolly too weak, and Slayer and Iron Maiden was their thing.

            Or for Rastafarian, Bob Marley

            Or for punk, the Ramones or Sex Pistols

            Or for Goth/post punk, the Cure and Joy Division

            There’s always “subcultures” brewing beneath (hence the term), but for mainstream, no doubt Nirvana made a HUGE impact. Couldn’t turn on MTV or the radio or even the TV without hearing about them and by extension grunge.

          • CanadaBear

            A guy I grew up with (complete asshole bully about 4 year older) his wife saw the Beatles when they first stormed the US. She said there was urine running down the floor of the theater the girls were so out of control. How nuts is that?

          • King of DBB

            nuts

          • CanadaBear

            I’m positive she wasn’t lying. I can’t imagine it. I was just hitting puberty when the Beatles hit it big. Girls were nuts over them. When you see those old clips you can barely hear the band over all the girls screaming. Ugh.

          • Irish Sweetness

            If you’re white, Butch. That’s very white music.

          • “white music” is the mainstream.
            Much like the blues didn’t become mainstream til Elivs stole it.
            Rap seems to be mainstream now though.

      • Agree. Those who lived through know what’s up.

        I sometimes tell stories (you thought the latest ones I told were crazy. Imagine 18 yr old Butch lol) from the 90s to the millinenial youngins, and they’re in disbelief and slightly envioius.

        Prolly be in my wheelchair telling those stories like those old hippies still in a VW van.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      This morning I just didn’t crap, but a movement

    • BerwynBomber

      Cobain’s and Weiland’s death were far from surprising, though Cobain’s obviously shook the music world.

      Only argument I’d make about Grunge vs. 60’s is that the latter sounded more original and offered more variety. I like grunge but I never thought it wasn’t highly derivative and narrow in scope. (Grunge reminded me more of 70s rock.)

      Too bad about Cornell. Liked his work.

      • By 60s and 90s I’m not so much as talking about the music. I’m sure some snobby musicologist will dissect every note and weigh in on what’s derivative or original, etc, but I’m more referring to the cultural shockwave that the Beatles and Nirvana started.

        They seemed to just take the world by storm, and nothing was ever the same.

        Other bands that came before were good – like GNR

        But they didn’t make the impact of Nirvana. It is pretty much assumed now that Nirvana in fact killed the entire big hair spandex bands genre, and everything cross genres just seem to explode around the same time like NIN, Rage, Sublime, TuPac, Morrisey, etc

        • CanadaBear

          Bless their hearts if they did indeed kill off the big hair/spandex bands.

          • They did, Canada! There’s actually a funny line in the Wrestler that alludes to it.

          • CanadaBear

            I remember in American Graffiti the hot rodder says “that surf shit sucks” referring to the Beach Boys. I laughed my ass off on that one. I love surf music but I hate the Beach Boys. For me, surf music is people like Dick Dale.

          • haha. American Graffit!

            More stars than the Outsiders?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Surf music does suck. But Wilson was ahead of surf music, and all serious musicians appreciate Pet Sounds.

          • CanadaBear

            When most people refer to surf music they are talking about the instrumentalists like Dick Dale, The Ventures, etc. Totally agree the Beach Boys suck moose wang.

      • SC Dave

    • Johnnywad

      I hope so. Because the shit they’re calling music right now is turrible.

  • BearDown100393

    We’re talking about practice here. Not a game.

    Practice.

    • Sahr Gborie

      We in here talking about practice. I mean, listen, we’re talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, we talking about practice. Not a game. Not the game, but we’re talking about practice, man. I mean, how silly is that?

  • Doc Nitty

    What?!?!?!!

    Chris Cornell, too?!?!?!

    NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • CanadaBear

      Hey Doc! Glad to see ya here. Wish it was different circumstances.

      • Doc Nitty

        My life’s so busy these days it makes bees dizzy.

        • CanadaBear

          You seem happy. That’s the main thing! Not sure if you like Trombone Shorty but he’s playing at a fest in burnaby this summer. Thinking about getting over to the mainland to see it. Any urge to merge?
          https://www.burnabybluesfestival.com/schedule/

          • Doc Nitty

            I have the urge to merge but I have a lot on my plate to purge and I’m hardly on the verge of a northward surge

          • CanadaBear

            Well, I can’t top that. I might meet a friend in Idaho in early August. If I’m anywhere near you I’ll reach out.

    • Pour a 40 oz to freedom sip for Chris.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Returned to the Black Hole Sun.

      • Doc Nitty

        Say Hello to Heaven.

  • “All we know is that the evidence so far suggests that the Bears haven’t yet discovered he’s a bust”

    As a Bears fans, I’ll take it.

  • King of DBB
    • CanadaBear

      The only reason I think he might survive is the guaranteed contract this year.

    • Bender McLugh

      I can’t say he will be, unless he really wants to just be cut. so flippin odd.

  • Bender McLugh

    Cornell’s death ruled suicide by hanging. Goddam what a bummer, for real

    • CanadaBear

      You never know. I lost a close friend about a year and a half ago. Had no idea. So many people don’t think mental disorders are a big deal. They say people should just buck up or what do they have to be depressed about? It’s different for everybody and count your lucky stars if you don’t suffer from them. Sorry, didn’t mean to rant. None of this is directed at you, of course. It really hurts to lose artists that you really liked/respected.

      • Sorry to hear that.

        I also lost someone who hung himself last Christmas. His life was a semi-disaster which began rather innocuously. He fucked up his back at work so the doctors prescribed oxy. That got him addicted and everything spun down from there.

        But I also knew another person who no one saw coming. Moved to L.A. from NY. Young (at the time in his 20s). Good job. No addictions. Not crazy.

        One night he rented a room at a 4 star hotel and hung himself.

        Something about hanging that is a bit more haunting than other forms of death.

        • King of DBB

          The first type is the Egoistic suicide. This type of suicide occurs when the degree of social integration is low. When a person commits this type of suicide they are not well supported in a social group. They feel like they are an outsider or loner and the only people they have in this world are themselves. They often feel very isolated and helpless during times in their lives when they are under stress.

          The second type is Altuistic suicide. This type of suicide occurs when the degree of social integration is too high. When a person commits this type of suicide they are greatly involved in a group. All that they care about are that groups norms and goals and they completely neglect their own needs and goals. They take their lives for a cause. A good example of this would be a suicide bomber.

          Durkheim’s third type of suicide is Anomic Suicide. This kind of suicide is related to too low of a degree of regulation. This type of suicide is committed during times of great stress or change. Without regulation, a person cannot set reachable goals and in turn people get extremely frustrated. Life is too much for them to handle and it becomes meaningless to them. An example of this is when the market crashes or spikes.

          The final type of suicide is Fatalistic suicide. People commit this suicide when their lives are kept under tight regulation. They often live their lives under extreme rules and high expectations. These types of people are left feeling like they’ve lost their sense of self.

          • Johnnywad

            Man. That’s dark. GP sounds like you’ve lived too close to that world somewhere along the way.

          • King of DBB

            No. Not personally.

            I am 49 and don’t have a GF, my live in GF made COO and wants to be CEO and left to go live/love downtown and be fabulous. Ditched me and my kids. That’s fine, I don’t begrudge her. I heard some hedge fund asswipe was romancing her, whatever. She calls me for “dates” on my non-kid weekends, which is to say she still wants me to come over and fuck her. MB hates me for doing so, and frankly I am sick of it as well. But I don’t consider suicide over it. I have kids to raise.

            My first job out of college was reworking the structure of a Medicare payor database for Chicago’s largest hospital. It started with the department of medicine and psych. I recall that for reimbursements for patients that killed themselves, we had to have a code from the attending physician as to the suicide “type”.

            You would be surprised how much data is tracked about you in insurance databases, even for routine visits. I did a good job for the place and probably, through my work alone, allowed the hospital to increase the amounts billed to Uncle Sam by several points. I always hated it, though and found the senior execs of said hospital to be the most manifestly amoral and unlikable people you could ever know.

          • Fresh break up sex tends to be toxic, and tempting cuz a person is at his most vulnerable. Agree with MB. Better to jerk off or get with some fatty on the side. There’s a reason so many “massage” parlors exist, yo.

            Yeah, I worked in the medical field, though not in the business end. Reality is a bitch

            (Just replace “Obamacare” for well, the system)

          • willbest

            Healthcare is rationed in every country on the planet. The rich will get as much as they want (whether they need it or not). Everybody else stands in some sort of queue. All we are doing is argue how that queue is going to work.

            The problem is we quite frankly don’t have enough people smart enough to be doctors. Or rather we do, but we also need them to do other things like R&D for green tech, manufacturing, energy exploration, power grid management, propulsion, waste disposal, water reclamation, etc. So our civilization keeps humming. And it doesn’t help that a large number of them find it easier to do less directly productive things that are exceptionally lucrative like attorney, lobbyist, financial wizardry, social media, etc.

          • The problem is too many ppl period. It drains resources and perhaps none more important than education to train more doctors as opposed to having kids in projects dropping out and turning to crime further funneling $, time and resources from other things that can greatly improve a society like hospitals , schools and infrastructure.

          • CanadaBear

            It’s not perfect up here but it beats the shit out of the US. I’ve had two knee replacements in the last 9 months and my only costs that were incurred were the prescriptions when I got out of the hospital.

          • BerwynBomber

            But socialism!!!

          • A lot of red state americans are under the impression that they’re not socialist when they pay for SOCIAL security, roads, fire fighters, police officers, military, education, CDC, NIH, FBI, CIA, NSA, IRS, DMV, NASA, EPA, FDA, Energy, Border Control…national parks, fwys, infrastructure…and that’s not even counting the “soft” socialism like forcing citizens to buy car insurance.

            But yes, socialism and Canada, Norway, England, Japan…EVIL!

          • leftcoastdave

            We do not need socialized health care. We simply need FREE health care for the simple basic issues which are the 90% of “health care” issues for most families. Why not open free clinics for those simple matters which can be handled by nurses where they give out cheap generic meds?

            We need a doctor and an insurance company to provide that care?

          • CanadaBear

            None of the nurses I know can do a knee replacement.

          • Irish Sweetness

            And socialism embraces the ballot box. Horrible, right?

          • leftcoastdave

            Ask the people rioting in the streets in Venezuela.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, comes down to pragmatics. Free market/profit-based health care just doesn’t work that well — coverage/cost-wise — across the board. But despite the DC GOP there might still be hope when you see a guy like Aetna’s CEO urging a debate on single payer.

            One thing that always surprised me was that no one ever took a SCOTUS case against the insurance industry for their PEC discrimination. Obviously they could still just price the sick out of the market — which I think the GOP wants — but on pure grounds of discrimination I am surprised they got away with it for as long as they did.

          • SC Dave

            A little paranoid?

          • willbest

            The US doesn’t have for profit healthcare. It doesn’t take a lot of research to look at the health insurance and healthcare markets and realize it looks nothing like the consumer products area of the economy.

            Nobody took a SCOTUS case on PEC discrimination because its so clearly within the right of the insurance company to do so. Insurance is gambling. I pay $45 a month betting I will die and if I do my family gets a million dollars. If I don’t I lose $45. The house takes my $45 and everybody elses $45 and occasionally somebody makes a million because they get hit by a bus or whatever. Allowing PEC to buy health INSURANCE is exactly like allowing somebody to buy life insurance for $45/mo when they are scheduled for execution tomorrow.

            What you are doing is confusing health insurance (gambling) and health care.

          • willbest

            For the record 38% of the US GDP is government spending. So its hard to argue the US isn’t a socialist country.

            The real problem is it is a corrupted parasitic patchwork system with cancerous growth so unlike other countries it is far and away more wasteful and we get less for our money than we would otherwise if it were designed better.

          • And somehow Americans find that repulsive.

            Moses Christ.

          • CanadaBear

            I truly don’t understand it.

          • willbest

            Because the sales pitch to me is “We are going to increase the cost you pay, and reduce your access to it”. And my altruism ends where you negatively impact my children.

          • CanadaBear

            Spoken by someone that has plenty of money.

          • willbest

            How is it any less greedy to demand my money so you can be better off? Or is it because you want to give it to somebody else that makes it noble?

            Implicit in your response is that its factually true. My children will be worse off under a Canadian system.

          • CanadaBear

            Doubtful Wil. I’ve been here 16 years and I’ve seen plenty living in a city over a million. It’s not perfect but it works well. Can it be a pain in the ass? Fuck yeah. But if you have issues that are serious, you jump to the front of the line. And depending on how much money you have, you can always go to another country and pay the going rate.

          • SC Dave

            Someone is paying for it, Canada

          • CanadaBear

            Of course we are Dave. I pay a higher tax rate and taxes on booze and tobacco are high. Speaking of high, if they do manage to legalize weed next year, that should help out. I have no issue with paying higher taxes so everyone can have healthcare.

          • leftcoastdave

            “Health care” no longer needs the best and brightest with only a 5-10% exception. What this country needs is to recognize reality. Insurance only became big because of guvamint taxation of income. Corps and unions scammed together to get tax free bennies in the form of health care. That was back when tax rates were 90% at the top. Kennedy was the first “supply side” tax cutter. But the reality was the until Ronald the Great taxes reached up to 70%. That is why you still hear about tax breaks on “Cadillac plans” being a touch stone issue.
            What this country needs to do is recognize that 90% of health care needs are kids with runny noses and people needing to be stitched up, ie., things which can be done by nurses supervised by nurse practitioners and physician assistants. Local guvamints all need to open free clinics for the easy crap and give out the meds to the kids with strep throat and crap to keep those people (yea, “those people”) by which I mean ALL people with a sore throat out of the ER.
            Screw this stoopidity of Obummer care where you MUST buy insurance. Hell, just give the money to the states for free clinics and then deal with the issue of people who are really sick some other way.

            The insurance industry wags the dog.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Robo-Doc.

            Coming to a hole-in-the-wall near you.

            Anna-Nicole Smith will ask “please state the nature of your medical emergency”

          • SC Dave

            The people at the top almost have to be that way. If they cared about the patients, a hospitals would probably go broke.

            And a closed hospital helps no one.

          • leftcoastdave

            The big chunks always float to the top, just like in politics. Then again, the corporate world is just like guvamint so there you have it. The septic tank analogy.

          • Johnnywad

            That sounds like a miserable job.

            And I didn’t mean you specifically. I was thinking somebody close given your depth of knowledge. But the job description makes more sense.

            And as for her. Might as well take it if it’s easy and good. Doesn’t sound like she’s somebody you’d want at the dinner table every night anyway.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Sorry to hear that GP/ Again, forgive my ignorance on such matters, but can you sue her for child support in such circumstances, or is that avenue only open to people with vaginas?

          • I’ve known one from each category it seems then. Sounds about right.

            The 2nd one with the good job and all was Asian (which was the 2nd asian I knew who committed suicide) and as we all know, it’s a shame based culture with their own standards. It seems important for them to appear successful and normal, but it’s usually a repressive mask.

            Third type I seen first hand when someone I knew whose WHOLE life was his job, (I mean, he worked 12 hr + 6 day shifts for years )suddenly found himself out of work.

            He always used to believe that anyone out of work was just lazy, but when he couldn’t land a job due to the economy, and he had to sell a bunch of shit and declare bankruptcy just to make mortgage, he almost went postal.

            I seriously think if he were unemployed for a few more months and some dude cut him off, he’d had gone off and killed someone then himself.

            The last type I haven’t encountered I don’t think, outside of ppl who are fatalistic to begin with.

          • Irish Sweetness

            The 2nd paragraph is just as applicable to the west, Butch. Jus’ sayin’, man.

      • SC Dave

        Less than people you actually know IMO.

        But still shitty.

      • Bender McLugh

        completely agree

    • BearDown100393

      Depression is a hell of a thing. And it is so often misunderstood.

  • Wow. Steelers cut Ladarious Green after only one season. That’s the TE who came over from SD and who I wanted Pace to sign last FA season. Those concussions must be LeSerious.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/05/18/steelers-cut-ladarius-green/

  • Malice Halice

    I’m excited for preseason cuz last preseason showed our EXACT skill set (horrible) but if I see trub/cohen/gentry/shaheen do great then I’ll actually have hope. If we get embarrassed like last preseason I’ll still be content. I just hate to win 7 games (we’re gonna average 20+pts) cuz that puts us nowhere on next year draft board.

    • BearDown100393

      What is the over/under for blog articles stating the meaninglessness of preseason in 2017?

  • AlbertInTucson

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    “If any starter goes down for 6-8 weeks the season is over.”

    Well, THAT eventuality is pretty much a given these days, no?

    • willbest

      That is part of a QB discussion. the twitget isn’t providing you with the context.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Well, how about the context of Bears QBs, outside of Cutler, having an all-too-familiar proclivity for going down for extended periods of time, like 6-8 weeks, and creating a team history of only 5 guys starting 16 games in a season in almost 30 years?

        • willbest

          Yeah its been brutal. Though 8 of the last 12 seasons have seen QB1 start at least 15 games.

          Not everybody is Eli or Rivers though. Incidentally, Eli will tie his brother for #2 in most consecutive QB starts if he plays all 16 games this season. He is going to need another 6 seasons and a bunch of play off wins to tie Favre though.

          • Gmen are close to moving on from him i think. He’s basically a durable Cargo which is why they’re stuck in mediocrity.
            He had two great post season runs but gotta get there first

          • BerwynBomber

            A few things about Eli, though, that separate him from a guy like Cutler (beyond the SB rings):

            1) Most of his crap years occurred the first four years of his career. Since then he has either been average or above average except for one year.

            2) He has been to the post-season six times. That is a decent hit rate over a 13 year career.

            3) He has generally played well against division opponents. In fact, it seemed he came up big more often than not against DAL.

            Beyond his Cutler-like career passer rating (thought keep in mind Eli has six seasons of 4K yards), biggest concern, I’m betting, is age and arm strength. He is not in late career Peyton territory regarding the latter but it is obviously diminished.

          • BearDown100393

            I think NY is priming to trade Eli.

        • SC Dave

          Cutler missed 5 or more games three years of eight in Chicago. While you know I’ve never called Cutler soft, it would seem excluding Cutler from the “proclivity for going down for extended periods” is a bit specious.

    • SC Dave

      Yes, it is. And I disagree w/Jefe… it depends WHICH starter.

      For my fun level, the absolute worst guy to lose is Jordan Howard

      • BearDown100393

        Yeah, he’s up there. As was a half dead Kyle Long last season.

    • leftcoastdave

      I don’t agree with him at all, unless it is Glenny. Howard, tough hit, but somebody else there to step up. O-line, yea, pain but someone to step in. D-line? Same.

      The depth this year is great across the board with the obvious exceptions of the DBs where Demps is the only standout.

      • BerwynBomber

        Howard is the MVP of the team at the moment. Last year too. He was more valuable than any of the three QBs. By a substantial margin.

        • leftcoastdave

          No doubt he is the best player at his position on the team, but RBs are much more plug and play than Glenny is likely to be.

        • AlbertInTucson

          And in the NFL, if your QB is not your MVP, you are probably struggling.

          • BerwynBomber

            Valid point. Though I guess you could split hairs in some instances. No doubt guys like Brady, Rodgers and Brees are the best players on their respective teams every year.

            But look at league MVP Matt Ryan last year? Best player on ATL? I still might side with Julio Jones. But again, splitting hairs and your point is overwhelmingly true.

          • leftcoastdave

            Take one out of the lineup and which causes the most problem for the team?

          • BerwynBomber

            Yup, certainly last year. But thru the course of their careers, not as sure.

            Anyway, might just come down to most valuable vs. best? Guys like Brady, Rodgers and Bress are obviously both, but other QBs — even ones near a elite level — not so sure.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Sigh.

            I really wish I had hairs to split.

            The ones that didn’t turn gray just up and left.

          • CanadaBear

            My hair is dry before I leave the bathroom after a shower, if that give you any idea how thin mine is these days. My Beloved Bride’s hair is so thick if she puts it up after a shower, it is still wet hours later.

        • BearDown100393

          NFL MVP

      • SC Dave

        We have NO ONE to step for Howard. That is completely delusional.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Practices in shorts with less than 100 passes in total do not count towards making a bust or not bust assessment.

    Bust or not bust assessment only happens in real games once Trub is takes over as starting qb for good and where pass rushers coming to knock out your franchise qb investment.

    Right now, all you can say is ‘he practiced well shorts’. It is better than ‘he struggled in non-contact practice in shorts’.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Rot in hell, Roger Ailes, for sexually abusing countless women and poisoning America with Faux News.

    “I created a TV network for people 55 to dead,” Ailes boasted to us. “Nobody believed it could be done, but I did it. It’s for guys who sit on their couch with the remote all day and night.” That seemed a condescending way to talk about his audience—not to mention, much of the Republican base—but it was fascinating anyway.

    And he was obliging them: he’d created a world where women were blonde and wore short tight skirts, men were in charge, and articulate, principled, complicated liberals—especially women—didn’t exist.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/my-only-meeting-with-roger-ailes/

    • willbest

      I am thoroughly impressed that you apparently have a day job. I would have expected this comment 12 hours ago otherwise.

    • leftcoastdave

      How can you possibly criticize Roger Ailes for “sexually abusing countless women” when Slick Willie did what we all know he did (ie., the blue dress, the cigars, Arkansas state employees) while Hillary smeared the women who came forward?

      Seriously? Roger Ailes is alleged to have done what compared to what we know Slick and Hill actually and indisputably did?

      Hypocrisy?

      • A girl voluntarily giving you head is not “abuse.”

        You can argue that a boss, esp the pres, shouldn’t be boinking his help, but in my eyes it’s no worse than the Gubernator fucking his maid.

        Immoral to some, but not necessarily illegal, and def not the same as sexual abuse.

        • leftcoastdave

          BS. Position of power taking advantage of a f’in intern? You must be joking or so delusional in your partisanship as to be able to rationalize his raping other women while in AK or Hillary’s smears of those women.

          “Not the same thing.”

          Give me a break.

          Roger Ailes did what?

          • BerwynBomber

            Butch might lean left but he never struck me as exceptionally partisan. Did you freak out over the cum stain on Monica’s dress?

          • leftcoastdave

            Actually, I was disgusted that the President of the United States would be such a low life no class hick that he would use his power and the prestige of the office to take advantage of a stoopid bimbo to get his rocks off.

            How low can you go?

          • He’s the pres, not the pope.

          • willbest

            I always look at the French political class with a bit of amusement. Their current President was raped by his wife when he was 15 and she was 39 and has a step child that is 2 years older than him. And then there was one that had a mistress, but the ex-wife was running against him, or something or other that was truth stranger than fiction.

          • Yeah, and it doesn’t really make a bit of difference.

            Honestly, to me, the “sins of flesh” are the LEAST of offenses when it comes to politicans.

            I’d rather GW have gotten a blow job by Dick Cheney than sent troops to die for imaginary weapons of mass destruction.

            Americans descend from Puritans, so we still have some of that in grained in our political psyche.

          • CanadaBear

            If it was a repub it would have been nothing to see here.

          • From the reports I read, Ailes did A LOT. Fox didn’t shell out $$$ cuz Ailes did nothing wrong.

            And it sure didn’t seem like Monica was a victim.

            It seemed more like a 3am booty call from a hussy.

          • willbest

            I don’t even know what to make of powerful men getting themselves into these situations anymore. The accusation is guilt until proven innocent these days. And these men have women throwing themselves at them and they are the type of women that wouldn’t mind their 15 minutes. But at the same time, if you are used to women just throwing themselves at you and one resists, you can absolutely go too far. And those men need to spend some time in jail.

          • As a man, it can be hard to resist. There you are at 3am after like 14hrs of work or whatever, tired, hungry, sleepy, some decent trim walks with a skirt smelling nice and soft, maybe she touches your knee, or gives you the look, begins to kneel…

            See, that’s how it goes.

            You know how many women would’ve PAID for the Monica experience?

            Getting the cigar treatment at the whitehouse with the most popular and powerful person on earth? Shit. Say what you want about Slick Willy, but he was one charming sax playing MOFO.

            Not some triple jawed fat bald Fester groping interns and telling them to recruit others to join the fun, or else.

        • willbest

          Bill Burr’s gold digging whore routine on Arnie is classic.

          • Haha, yah. Funny as shit. And true.

            Honestly, I don’t know how rich famous powerful goodlooking men can resist.

            How do you resist a bus load of these? You don’t

            https://vid.me/c3XJ/just-goofing-around-trying-on-my-new-bikinis

          • willbest

            oh man, I love that frill top bikini a lot better than the traditional triangle top on all woman that aren’t sporting double Ds. My imagination runs wild.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            she really knows which “ass”ets to show off.

      • BearDown100393

        Mitch Trubisky pledges to never sexually abuse countless women.

        Or men.

        Or himself.

        Vote Mitch Trubisky.

    • SC Dave

      No need to read past the words “alternate reality” to dismiss the remainder of the article out of hand.

  • Malice Halice

    BOLD PREDICTION: Glennon gone have the greatest backup-to-starter debut in NFL history. I’m talm bout 10 300+yrd games, 1 game for 6 titties, 3 turnovers for the entire season along with 40 titties.

    • BerwynBomber

      So basically a season on par with the best from Brady, Rodgers, and Peyton?
      I’m looking forward to seeing Glennon play, and am cautiously optimistic about the guy, but …

      • Malice Halice

        Yep, but coming from a “backup” background that would be legendary. He gone be Giraffin em crazy!

    • AlbertInTucson

      Impossibly high setting for the bar.

      Last Bear QB with ten 300 yard games in one season was, I believe, nobody.

      Ever.

    • BearDown100393

      Giraffe’s gonna go All Pro.

  • BerwynBomber
  • AlbertInTucson

    “The NFL is a TV Show about quarterbacks.” – Steve Czaban, ESPN980, Washington, D.C.

    • BerwynBomber

      That would be news to Brandon Marshall, ODB, Dez Bryant and host of other WRs.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Sure.

        That’s why Kirk Cousins is making $24M per and the Bears signed Mike Glennon at $15M per and then spent 4 picks to get a Trubisky.

        • BerwynBomber

          My comment was meant in jest.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Well, those 3 DO think it is all about them.

      • BearDown100393

        Those are the loneliest guys at retirement announcements also.

    • Humans are tribal. They crave chieftans.

      The founders designed the 3 branches to be equal and check each other, but naturally the executive became most powerful cuz it has a chieftan.

      Football was designed to be a “team sport” (like most sports) but naturally, the fans fixated on the chieftan

      Soccer has the striker. Basketball/hockery whoever scores most.
      Baseball is somewhat of a split between pitcher and homerun batter.

      Just human nature.

      It’s called The Godfather and not the 5 families for a reason….

    • BearDown100393

      “The NFL is a TV Show about quarterbacks owned and sold by billionaires.”

      – Fixed.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Soundtrack of our lives, man. If you were a dude or dudette in the nineties … his was the sound.

  • BerwynBomber

    So MacGregor can’t actually believe he can beat Mayweather, can he? I loathe Money and think he is overrated historically, but MacGregor’s never boxed a professional fight in his life, has he? And is it even a given that his knockout power translates once he has to wear gloves.

    Seems like totally one-sided money grab, and considering that Mayweather is almost all D, it will be an exceptionally boring one at that.

    • AlbertInTucson

      What happens when MacGregor forgets he can only box and smacks Floyd up side the head with a foot?

      Which, BTW, I would love to see.

      • BerwynBomber

        Oh, if it was any sort of fight but a boxing match, Macgregor would kill him.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I doubt it ever happens.

          • CanadaBear

            The only reason I think it might happen is Mayweather is greedy and hasn’t really been beaten too bad over the years. Pretty sure he could out box Connor and totally frustrate him with his D. I don’t even watch Mayweather fights because they are so boring.

    • Is that fight actually happening? Been rumored forever.
      I think the only boxer that can defeat Mayweather is one with lightning fast punches and reach.

      • BerwynBomber

        I contend Leonard would have destroyed him because he was somewhat Mayweather-like himself but with KO power (and one helluva chin). But yeah, would obviously have to be a hypothetical from eras past or some new kid whom we do not know.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Conor is bigger than Floyd … but then again ..so are those gloves.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He’s signed. Mayweather hasn’t.

      I don’t get people getting up in arms about Conor boxing. He’s taken the sport of MMA over in 3 years, and is now about to make probably 100M for one fight.

      Can Conor beat Mayweather? The argument is moot – he doesn’t have to win. He wins by getting in the ring. Don’t people understand that? Once the names are on the dotted line … Conor wins. Floyd wins. And Conor has just had a baby boy who will never work a day in his life. He’s won the game of life.

      What I’m hoping happens is that he pulls a Tyson, gets angry, and then Capoeira kicks Floyd in the head and knocks him out.

    • BearDown100393

      Mayweather’s defense is remarkable. And his sustainability. Out of the ring – deplorable.

    • willbest

      Are we so sure? I mean Connor has 12 years on Mayweather. And they aren’t going to go in 3 weeks if Mayweather signs. Its going to be a good 6 mo to a year.

  • AlbertInTucson

    A game thread rolled through a while back.

    Loved the Milton Bradley American Heritage series of war board games.. DOGFIGHT, BATTLE CRY, BROADSIDE, HIT THE BEACH and eventually, SKIRMISH.

    • SC Dave

      They were fun, but a bit simplistic.

      I was definitely more of an Avalon Hill / SPI / GDW guy.

      A couple of good beer & pretzel games were Naval War and Ace of Aces. Ever see those?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Simplistic, yes, but I lot to be said for playability, too.

        They definitely led me, eventually, to Avalon Hill.Still have several piled up in a closet.

        Which ACE OF ACES? I had the one with the two picture books, not the board game.

  • Bender McLugh

    oh my, some hilarious blasphemy for your friday gents.

  • Fisherman695

    Bears 3 day practice 5 on 5 with a couple of coaches playing not much of a test?

    • BearDown100393

      ??

    • willbest

      Doesn’t the CBA grossly restrict what they can do in practices? The coaches have been lobbying hard for major changes in the next round.

  • King of DBB

    The 4-letter feels the way I do, and I know MB has perhaps departed for fresh waters because of this as well:

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/Barnwell2017GradesNFCNorth/bill-barnwell-2017-nfl-offseason-report-card-free-agency-draft-nfc-north-chicago-bears-detroit-lions-green-bay-packers-minnesota-vikings

    Nobody – and I do mean NOBODY – in the national NFL press can make any sense of what Pace has done, it’s likely he has critically mismanaged the Bears to be bad for several more years and the only instagram filter that makes sense – the only narrative that Jeff SHOULD BE ADVANCING – is that Ryan Pace made a viciously cynical move to push his career out a few years w/o getting fired.

    To me, I agree 200% with what this ESPN article has to say: this is worse than Emery because Emery was just stupid and bad at his job. Pace is smart, his moves are to inoculate himself against one or even two more 3-13 seasons. Because the narrative will be “Trubisky is coming”.

    I know Jeff wants to advance the story that “Pace was bold and got his man”, and while that will be great if that pans out – nobody in the national press sees it that way.

    Sorry that is how I feel about it, I am winding down on Da Blog and I know a couple of regs who are headed out – I just no longer feel this club CAN rebuild into a winner and a playoff team until ownership changes. It was true for the Ricketts and Sam Zell and the Cubs and it’s true here: Until Ginny dies and the kids, who have zero interest in football, sell their shares and collect their money and it consolidates under a new owner that is not George – and Ted is sent packing – we will get GMs like Ryan Pace who cynically maneuver their own political survival ahead of properly building a team.

    • beninnorcal

      My theory remains the same. And that is that the team that Pace inherited was so bad after so many shitty drafts, that it was going to take a few years to become competitive.
      I’m not the biggest fan of this last draft, but by Bears standards, I thought the ’15 and ’16 classes weren’t too bad.
      If Trubisky turns out to be an upgrade to someone like Cutler(shouldn’t be hard according to many on here, am I right?), then the ’17 draft was a success.
      But I also think that this team suffered back-to-back injury plagued seasons. And while neither the ’15 club or the ’16 club inspired much hope, I think the result of each was marred by the shit-storm of injuries they had.

      I also couldn’t give a fuck about anything related to the 4 letter network, they are completely irrelevant, IMO.

      • SC Dave

        Multiple upvotes on that last sentence, ben.

    • CanadaBear

      I read the article earlier and the writer always bashes the Bears. Magically the Packers had the best draft in the NFCN again. You’re completely wrong about none of the kids care about the Bears. George does. He may be incompetent but he cares. Pace took two shots at getting a decent QB. If his only shot was Glennon he would be crucified.

      Before you shoot back that the homers always say the writer hates the Bears, find an article by Barnwell that says anything positive about the Bears.

      The media are in a feeding frenzy bashing the Bears. Are they right? Who knows? I know more about the Bears than the vast majority of the national media.

      • SC Dave

        When the Bears win the division, they’ll all be saying “we told you so”.

        I so don’t pay attention to all those little worms.

      • BerwynBomber

        The Packers who need major D help but took as many O players in the draft as D players (and three RBs to boot). Yeah, fab draft there, GB.

        P.S. But I don’t buy into the (plug-in) media person has it out for Bears or certain Bears player. Not to say it never happens but we are waaaaaay too sensitive in our perception of it happening. My two cents at least.

        • CanadaBear

          I agree I’m overly sensitive to the bashing but I honestly have never read anything positive about the Bears from Barnwell. I don’t think he has it out for the Bears he’s just lazy like most of the national sports media and just regurgitates all the same crap about the Bears. I think almost any realistic, hardcore fan knows more about their team than any of the national guys. It also doesn’t help the local media love to pile on. The national guys get some of their cues from them. Anywho, I thought the Barnwell article was a pile of poop.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I would concur with the “out of town stupid” aspect of national media. Then again, sometimes it does provide a more objective view.

    • I disagree w the premise to start.
      If Pace was only concerned about extending his career he could’ve kept that franchise QB card in his pocket till next season.
      Drafting Trub, nay, MOVING up for him completely puts Pace in the spotlight to take the glory or the blame NOW .
      As soon as Pace got Trub, his career was put on the clock, and he knew it, and went for it anyways.
      As for Trub, u watched the tape, what from a football perspective don’t u like about him?
      The second he beats the Pack all will be converted.
      Personally, I’m compelled to see how it all works out.
      Many in this media and on this board were blow jobbing the Fuller draft. Howd that turn out?
      Oh and i talked to MB.
      He says u all can suck his cock rings! J-k.
      He says waz up

      • CanadaBear

        If MB wants to know waz up, he knows where we live.

      • King of DBB

        I disagree.

        If Pace had stood pat this season, and Foxy shit the bed and he was looking at back to back 3-13 seasons with Glennon, he was fucked. Toast. If you are honest, you know what the shit would have been both on this blog and in the national press by December if the season goes to shit.

        Pace needed to take his serum now. He needed to mangle this draft. If he had selected Solomon Thomas and the Bears didn’t get any better, he was in big big trouble.

        So he made the smart play, he bought himself time. He reached for a QB that has a lot of question marks on him. Mitch Trubisky is not Andrew Luck.

        I am hoping the kid is the shnizzle for Bears fans sake. I think he was there at 3, and we could have kept the other picks, but that question will never be answered.

        But I disagree that Pace could have waited any longer.

        And I know, I know: the national press sucks, the national press hates the Bears, blah blah blah de blah.

        There are a lot of NFL beat writers that know that a fearsome Bears team is good for the NFL. It’s a market that SELLS. But it is not happening, and it is BECAUSE of management, and that is the story and they are not afraid to write it.

        Hey – here’s the fun thing – I will have to eat lots of crow if this team starts off 4-1 or even 3-2 and things look up. That is literally months away.

        I am not worried about having any bird for lunch.

        • I think in that scenario the logic would’ve been

          “Well, neither Fox nor Cargo were his guys, so Pace will finally get a chance to hire both his HC and QB in ’18 like he wanted all along”

          Sure there would’ve been meatheads calling for Pace’s head, but they’re calling for his head now anyways, so doesn’t change much.

          And most QBs now adays come with one big question mark.

          Can Mariotta learn an NFL O?
          Can WInston cut down on TOs?
          Will Wentz adjust to level of competition?
          Can Trub overcome his lack of experience?

          Etc

          Only way to find out is through play.

          I’m more doubtful about Fox and his gameday moronics. I think that more than anything will lead to a bad season.

          But I am intrigued how this will all pan out.

          Could be we traded up for Ponder. Could be we traded up for Carr. Stay tuned…

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Oh jeez, what a load of horse shit…. wait, my bad, you live in Chicago so you are a better fan than the rest of us so in turn you must be right.

      • King of DBB

        I am notably smarter than you are. Are you in a redneck state?

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          lol sure you are…. I live south of I-80 so according to most arrogant Chicagoans yes I am from a redneck state.

          • King of DBB

            oh yeah, you downstaters don’t matter.

          • willbest

            To be in a different state than Chicago right now would be… ideal. Rahm is a crook all the way down, but nothing short of Bezos coming in and buying the city for a $1 while assuming its debt is going to save it at this point.

          • evantonio

            I live south of I-80.

            But it’s Brooklyn. So where does that leave me?

          • leftcoastdave

            Hell, I live south of the I-10. But I did live north of it until I moved out here, following the sage advice of Horace Greeley after St. Jimmy the Carter tanked the midwest.

  • Raider Phil

    This Trubisky kid is for real, he will be the starter this year and many more to come, so let’s hope he don’t get hurt. I’m upset about losing Jeffries but maybe this White kid will finally step up and play a full season. Mitch is a stud, and he will prove it. They still need some help to be a contender, but this move should keep them out of the cellar. I think they will split with the Packers this year. Go Bears!!!!

    • CanadaBear

      Hope you’re correct. Not holding my breath on White. Hope I’m wrong.

    • beninnorcal

      *Jeffery

      • CanadaBear

        It was killing me, too, but I resisted!

        • beninnorcal

          I couldn’t help it, we’re Bear fans. In fairness, tho, now that he is an Eagle, I should start calling him Jefferies. Because who cares?

          • Bender McLugh

            haha

          • willbest

            the Jefferies thing bothers me as much as people pronouncing the “s” in Illinois

          • CanadaBear

            Des Moines gets a double dip on that one.

          • leftcoastdave

            Dudes, it’s “des mo nez” and “ill in wa”.

            Ask Illinois Jacquette, the great sax player.

        • Doc Nitty

          He’s an Eagle now. It’s Jeffries.

          • CanadaBear

            Good call!

  • SC Dave

    I think this season could be fun. I am looking forward to seeing what the new pieces can make happen, especially Glennon and Jackson/Cohen in the return game.

  • SC Dave
    • BearDown100393

      What an outstanding interview.

    • leftcoastdave

      Is saying he sounds too intelligent to go to LSU politically incorrect?

      By that I mean of course he should have gone to Stanford, ND or Harvard.

  • willbest

    This blows my mind. Alex Tizon was a pulitzer prize winning former reporter for the Seattle Times. He has basically a death bed confession (though I don’t know if it was intended to be) where he admits to having inherited his mother’s slave who was responsible for raising him.

    And yet the person who he lied to about her original obituary 6 years prior had this to say in her apology for being a dupe.

    “Tizon was a valued colleague at The Times, and a friend to many. He was revered as a writer and a truth teller. It is not my intention to denigrate him, only to apologize for being complicit in further injuring Ms. Pulido by providing cover for what was ultimately a life denied.”

    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/northwest/why-the-obituary-for-eudocia-tomas-pulido-didnt-tell-the-story-of-her-life-in-slavery/

    And the Atlantic that published his confession here

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/lolas-story/524490/

    doesn’t rake him over the coals but instead talks about how wonderful he is here

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/a-reporters-story/524538/

  • Scharfinator
    • SC Dave

      Absolutely unsurprising. The liberal bias of the media has reached an all-time high, as standards of truth have sunk to a level not seen since the 18th century.

  • Scharfinator

    Had to change my profile picture to reflect our status.

    • SC Dave

      Well played. Ride that shit all the way to Minneapolis.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Orange chimapnzee’s shit show devolves into an even deeper shit hole. Meanwhile disappointed Trump voters bury their head in their ass rather than admit they were fools taken in by a used car salesman.

    “I tuned it out,” Michele Velardi, a 44-year-old in Staten Island, told the AP of the recent news. “I didn’t want to be depressed. I don’t want to feel that he’s not doing what he said, so I just choose to not listen.”


    NYT: Trump told Russian officials in the Oval Office that firing ‘nut job’ Comey eased pressure from investigation. The same meeting in which Trump revealed classified info to Russian officials, he bragged abt firing Comey to ease pressure from the probe. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html?smid=tw-share&_r=2

    Kushner under investigation.
    WaPo FLAG: Current senior White House official is now a “significant person of interest” in the Russia probe.https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russia-probe-reaches-current-white-house-official-people-familiar-with-the-case-say/2017/05/19/7685adba-3c99-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.2c1f431ffc93

    McClatchy: Trump-Russia probe now includes possible cover-up, Congress is told
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/congress/article151565947.html

    • King of DBB

      https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/msnbc/components/video/201703/2017-03-02t17-28-59-8z–1280×720.nbcnews-ux-1080-600.jpg

      You know he’s like the Commie version of Captain Kanagroo,

      “hello little comrades. welcome to the show. you will be indoctrinated now. please enjoy”

    • willbest

      Is there a particular reason that you don’t think the rest of us wander over to a news site or subscribe to a news paper that makes you feel a need to put your particular spin on a situation nobody else is talking about?

      And it is spin. Because you really ought to have brought up that Comey testified under oath before the Senate Judiciary committee that he had not been ordered to end his investigation long after he supposedly wrote the memo to the contrary. Or that It also would have been a felony for him to not immediately report any obstruction of justice when it occurred.

      Now obviously he could have been willing to lie to the Senate to save his job and now he thinks that telling the truth is a great way to get money from somebody and that if he does manage to take Trump down he won’t be in the cell next to him for committing multiple felonies. But the rational course of action might be to treat the NYT/WP anonymous sources reading a document that the reporters haven’t seen with a healthy bit of skepticism.

      • AlbertInTucson

        The Packer Trolls are bad enough. Now we get “Political Troll”. SMH.

        • willbest

          I rather like Cheesey. I feel that 90% of the time it is all in good fun with him.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Permanent Troll status for me because of not-so-mysterious disappearances when the Packers lose.

          • BerwynBomber

            True. Then again I don’t remember him gloating over Packer wins either.

            Most of his shtick was anti-Cutler. Though he panned Bears management and coaching too. He seemed more a disgruntled Bears fan than anything else.

          • SC Dave

            Well, he was a better troll than my latest “This user is blocked”. You know, that racist dude that keeps quoting HufPo horseshit.

          • fishing florida

            I don’t remember posting any racist HufPo shit?

          • Once it was obviously over for Cargo who he said was the 3rd best Packer QB, Cheezy left.
            Said it wouldn’t be as fun anymore

          • willbest

            I suspect he will be back this year if (which is likely) the Packers pass the Bears on the all time in the series.

          • BearDown100393

            The Bears beat the Packers both games this year.

          • willbest

            Oh right 19-0

          • BearDown100393

            It really is that simple.

          • willbest

            yep, can’t go 19-0 without going 2-0 against the Packers

          • BearDown100393

            Right-o.

            Cakewalk.

          • leftcoastdave

            I like the season starting with tests of fire. I love drafting people with attitude, each and every one of them. And signing Jaye Howard after he was dissed? Oh, yea, baby. Let them all be motivated to prove they belong, not bringing it when they decide to turn it on, or not. Yea, AJ, yea Fuller, hit the road.

          • SC Dave

            Jordan Howard is their new nightmare. I mean, imagine being a Packers fan and having to deal with Walter Payton.

          • leftcoastdave

            I believe that the D-fense coming out of the front 7 will kick lots of butt in the division. Those O lines will not hold up to it, IMHO.

          • BerwynBomber

            Ah, ok. That’s what I just speculated. I missed his announcement. But yup, make sense.

          • BerwynBomber

            The other thing about Cheesy was that a) he rarely bragged about the Pack (or Rodgers), and b) most of the stuff he said about the Bears (or Cutler) had a ring of truth to it.

            My only beefs with him were the trolling (sometimes) was stupid and other times he wouldn’t show face for weeks after a Packers loss.

            I’m beginning to wonder if his entire shtick was anti-Jay and once Cutler wasn’t around nether was Cheesy. As he was rarely around this past season either.

          • SC Dave

            No, he LOVED Jay. Because the Packers were almost certain to win with him as our QB. I mean, didn’t you get just a little glee when Lovie’s D started to make Favre look like shit?

        • SC Dave

          Yeah, no shit. “This user is blocked” sure became a whiny cunt.

          • fishing florida

            I have barely posted anything why start calling me names?

          • leftcoastdave

            Walk around with “kick me” taped to your back results in . . . ?

        • SC Dave

          Actually, I’ve tried several times on different days to block it, but disqus always gives me some error. The whole “This user is blocked” thing is just wishful thinking.

          So why would disqus allow me to block anyone *except* this tripe-meister?

          • AlbertInTucson

            Block feature works for me.

    • BearDown100393

      Mitch Trubisky promises to meet and exceed the expectations of all his fans.

      Mitch cares.

      Vote for Mitch Trubisky.

    • SC Dave

      Hmmm… “This user is blocked” at it again?

      Ooops… I meant the whiny racist cunt.

      • Johnnywad

        This guy is moving me from a position of desperately trying to ignore politics to actively rooting for Trump to get two terms just so he can fuck right off.

        • SC Dave

          You, me, and probably about 2/3 of the blog.

          • CanadaBear

            None for me, thanks.

          • SC Dave

            No disrespect, but your vote doesn’t count here.

            And I posted long ago that I did not vote for Trump.

          • CanadaBear

            You’re wrong Dave. I’m a dual citizen and I vote in both countries. I never said you did vote for trump.

        • BerwynBomber

          I’m sensing you and SCD (and “2/3 of the blog”) will look for any reason to vote for Trump regardless.

          • Johnnywad

            That hurts Bomber.

          • BerwynBomber

            Apologies then if I misread your political leanings.

          • Johnnywad

            Leaning conservative and approving of Donald Trump are two very different things. I think he’s a complete asshole.

          • willbest

            Don’t kid yourself, Kasich’s VP would be president by now if we had elected him instead (assuming he could have gotten MI, PA and WI to vote for him in the first place)

          • SC Dave

            Well, if your side puts up another Hillary, the choice will be obvious.

      • leftcoastdave

        Amazing how so many people have become so personally invested in the big lie.

        The humorous thing is how WaPo labeled these “BLOCKBUSTER!!!” revelations which are ho hum, ie., the fact that the President told the Russians that Comey was a “nut job” and that firing him got rid of an impediment to improving relations. What is it that they object to, that it is true? It is not like the President saying “after my election I will have more room to give away things in the national interests” like Obamma said. Oh, before someone objects, it related to the missile defense system being deployed under Bush in Poland and the Czech Republic, something Vlad didn’t like an Obamma bent over and took one for, betraying the Eastern European allies who went out on a limb to deploy the system.

        But hey, lets not talk about facts here, let’s stay with the hysteria.

        • King of DBB

          OK facts then:

          http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/world/europe/with-eye-on-north-korea-us-cancels-missile-defense-russia-opposed.html?_r=0

          There were 4 phases to the plan, and the final phase of SM3 missiles were supplanted in Poland by a system developed by the Poles themselves.

          Oh, and the Poles favored killing the final part of the plan, with only 29% supporting it.

          http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/poles-react-warsaw-fears-washington-losing-interest-in-eastern-allies-a-649688.html

          oh and your quote is wrong.

          • BerwynBomber

            Imagine if “Obamma” or “Clint Jong Hill” (or whatever he calls H. Clinton) had fired an FBI Director investigating them and then badmouthed the dude to the Russians?

            Conservatives lost their collective mind over a blow job. They would be burning crosses on lawns over something like this.

          • King of DBB

            I like that he says Obama “bent over and took one” from Russia. That made me LOL.

            Trump is literally Putin’s puppet. He’s trying to sneak Kislyak into the White House to tell him he’s got the Comey thing handled, so Vlad will calm down.

            The GOP are besides themselves. They know the ghost of Reagan is ready to rise up and drive over all of them with a steamroller for allowing the Reds to put their Manchurian candidate into the Oval Office, and yet the mouth breather Trumpies are still doing things like calling Obama soft on international affairs. Jared Kushner literally called the CEO of Lockheed Martin on the phone to tell him that $100B for the radar system that Trump’s Saudi friends wanted was too much money and to lower the price – and somehow Obama is the guy getting bent over.

          • willbest

            We didn’t when the IRS was caught conclusively targeting conservative grass roots organizations. The FedGov is protecting Learner, but right now the IRS is basically negotiating how much damages they are going to have to pay. Not whether they did anything.

            They didn’t when an arms sale to terrorists went south and a youtube video and some poor schlub was sent off to prison to scapegoat the whole thing.

            Meeting on the tarmac to quash investigation? Selling guns to the mexican drug cartel?

            You have plenty of comparable situations where crosses weren’t being burnt.

          • leftcoastdave

            After the meeting on the tarmac, it was clear that the fix was in. Comey just became the guy to usurp the power of the AG and take the fall for her by saying that yes, CRIMES WERE COMMITTED, but “HE DIDN’T THINK HE COULD GET A CONVICTION.” That is not his job. None of what he did was his job. His job was to refer the matter to the AG and let her play politics and bury it for all the world to see.

            Would it have mattered?

            The fix was in and crimes were committed.

            And whose panties are in a bunch over it? Marching in the streets? Paid protesters? No, the right respects the democratic process, even when crimes are committed and covered up.

          • BerwynBomber

            Comey helped the GOP last election immensely more than he hurt it. And if you think a private email server is akin to colluding with the Russians on a national election … aye-yi-yi-yi …

          • willbest

            Wait you actually think that is a possibility based on facts in the record? good grief.

          • BerwynBomber

            What facts? Like their hacking into the DNC?

          • willbest

            Since the FBI didn’t examine the DNC servers. I don’t know how that is a fact in the record

            https://www.buzzfeed.com/alimwatkins/the-fbi-never-asked-for-access-to-hacked-computer-servers?utm_term=.ohvYXpVOjp#.np6bLQEOqQ

            And then this guy takes down CrowdStrike’s claim.

            http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-25/evidence-russia-hacked-dnc-collapsing

            And then these 3 jokers created a massive security breach for the Dems allowing for other vectors.

            http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/house-staff-criminal-investigation-234714

            And the fact that Clinton camp specifically sought to play up Russia-Trump as a means of explaining their loss within 24 hours of losing the election. This was revealed in the book “Shattered” which was published last month. The author of which was a Clinton friendly so there is that.

          • willbest

            And even if it is more likely than not it was Russia. You still don’t have collusion other than Flynn and maybe Manafort might have talked policy changes that if they waited a couple months wouldn’t have even been an issue.

          • BerwynBomber

            The Russian/DNC story was out there WELL in advance of the election. Like weeks if not a solid month or two.

          • willbest

            Again, the DNC servers were analyzed by a company hired by the DNC, not the FBI. So why is that believable to you?

          • SC Dave

            what an idiotic statement.

            you play the patsy for the dems. It about the FUCKING CONTENT of the goddamn emails. You, like tens of millions (or more) of others, have been deflected from the real story there.

            Well, that and the cavalier treatment of national secrets.

            not that it surprises me.

          • SC Dave

            smh

      • fishing florida

        Awe hell no! I would not talk crap politics on a sports blog.

  • willbest

    “I’m officially a murderer.” – Jeff

    Welcome to the club.

  • King of DBB
    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      it’s almost as if they had a secret logical plan they were following.

      • leftcoastdave

        “Almost as if”??? They were playing out Le Carre to the hilt. Even signing Glennon as a false tell. It was planned out from day one, whenever that was back during the last season.

        • CanadaBear

          Sarcasm.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          just a dig at GP’s irrational belief in the Beat writers media knee-jerk reporting of the draft when they were caught off guard by the moves.

    • But I thought they only met him once over a FB poke!?

    • CanadaBear

      Even if you hate the pick you have to admire the secrecy (esp with Foxy acting like a greeter in Vegas). There is no way Glitchy or Emery could have pulled that off.

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      Sounds like Foxy got too happy after a few drinks and started telling stories like an old fart that he is.

      Over dinner, Loggains and Ragone pushed for a sense of Trubisky’s football acumen. Though with Fox in his endearing and lively social state, the coordinator and quarterbacks coach had to find openings in the conversation.

      “Five-on-one with Foxy can be hard,” Loggains says. “He’s the life of the party. You’ll be sitting there like, ‘OK, Foxy’s starting to feel it.’ A couple times it was, ‘Coach, stop talking. We need Mitchell to talk.'”

      I continue to think Foxy has checked out and is already planning retirement. Given how invested Loggains has been in the QB selection process and the fact that he gets the first crack to develop Trub, he will be the next head coach once Foxy calls it a day (could be after this season or after playing out his 4 year contract in 2018). A brand new coach will not have the same stake in the Trub investment.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog American journalism is so good it makes me sick. @nytimes & @washingtonpost & @lawfareblog & many more. So proud of this country sometimes.”

    They are certainly pulling at the thread. Admirably. Then again the Trump administration seems riddled with leaks. So it is not exactly snagging Deep Throat.

    • willbest

      Jeff basically just said that he trusts anonymous sources providing unverified information over sworn statements before congress. The National Enquirer has higher standards.

      • CanadaBear

        Kinda depends on the sworn statements. Liars be lying.

        • willbest

          But sworn statements are punishable by fines and jail time if they are lies. By contrast, the NYT and WP have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Half the country already thinks they are garbage rags so a big miss doesn’t matter since the other half of the country will forgive them because they are so desperate for it to be true. But if they actually hit a home run, maybe they can rehabilitate some of their reputation with some of the people in the middle.

          • CanadaBear

            There are a couple of liars right now that haven’t been arrested so liars keep right on lying.

          • willbest

            There are a lot of liars. Hillary, Petraus, Mills, Learner, Holder, Lynch, etc. but the WP/NYT basically printed anonymous internet comments and the only reason half the country doesn’t see them as such is because they want to believe them.

      • BerwynBomber

        I didn’t see where he said that. All I saw was his apparent praising of investigative reporting, which always relies on anonymous sources. If there were no anonymous sources, we would never get inside scoop in a vast array of topics — politics, sports, legal news, crime, entertainment, etc., etc.

        • willbest

          Its not just that they were anonymous. Its that what they said was unverified, and it directly contradicted publicly sworn statements to the contrary, which were available for the reporter to see at the time they wrote the story.

          They might as well just publish the 4chan comment that says Seth Rich made it to the hospital alive, that his gunshot wound was non-fatal, that he died at the hospital without a code being called.

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            Please, more bellyaching about unverified leaks from orange chimpanzee who gleefully read hacked emails from his opponent’s campaign at his rallies.

            Morons
            Are
            Governing
            America

            #MAGA

          • willbest

            Hacked emails that were verified to be authentic.

        • madscout12

          Anonymous sources are not created equal. The Chelsea Mannings, Edward Snowdens, and Dan Ellsbergs of the world, who bring actual evidence to back their claims, are not the same as high ranking officials using the press for grinding their own political axes.

          If you’re a liberal, you want Trump impeached. Its clear he’s done enough to get there. But you don’t want the deep state to be the one who does it. That sets the precedent that if the NSA, CIA, or FBI (or all three of them) don’t like a president, then he’s gone. How’s that going to go for the qualified candidate that comes around and says “maybe it isn’t a good idea to have a standoffish policy against the only other power armed to the teeth with nukes”? Or “hey, maybe this 4th amendment thing…we should start following that”?

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            Orange chimpanzee has been taking a dump on US intelligence community for a year while kissing putin’s at every opportunity. His stupid schoolyard bully tactics won’t work with intelligence or defense community.


            How’s that going to go for the qualified candidate that comes around and says “maybe it isn’t a good idea to have a standoffish policy against the only other power armed to the teeth with nukes”.

            It will work just fine if the said candidate is :
            1) not beholden to russian oligarchs. here is orange chimpanzee’s son spilling the beans in 2008 when there was no white house run on the horizon. “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”
            2) the said candidate does not hire a someone like Manafort as campaign manager who again happens to be in bed with russian oligarchs
            3) the said candidate does not hire a Michael flynn, who accepted russian money but did not report to DoD as required by law for ex-military folks, as adviser and appoint him as National Security Advisor

            Seeking different kind of relationship with russia is not the issue. Thanks for ignoring everything in orange chimpanzee’s background.

          • BerwynBomber

            Actually, if I knew he wouldn’t get us into nuclear war the next four years, I might not want him impeached as he will be a huge albatross on the GOP whereas Pence (much as I loathe the man) can sell his Midwestern Christian values nonsense and some moderates might buy it.

          • madscout12

            Agreed.

      • madscout12

        Or government officials who’ve taken oaths not leak classified information leaking to the press anonymously.

        Trump should be impeached, but it isn’t the deep state that should be doing it. Especially not the when their story “just trust us, he’s bad for security” with no verification. After all, these are the same mofos who were so sure Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

        • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

          They are doing it by the book. Mueller is as straight as an arrow as they come…a decorated marine who got a purple heart for fighting in Vietnam.

          LOL.orange chimpanzee fired Comey and got Mueller instead!

          http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/18/james-comey-trump-special-prosecutor-robert-mueller-fbi-215154

        • willbest

          What has he done, beyond reasonable doubt, to merit impeachment?

          • madscout12

            Violated the emoluments clause, committed an act of war unsanctioned by congress, and obstruction of justice on his Russia investigation.

          • willbest

            False, so has every president since FDR, no evidence in record

          • madscout12

            Every president has fired the lead investigator for his current investigation? And, in his letter letting the FBI director know, said “Thanks for telling me three times that I’m not under investigation.” Please.

            Every president had businesses around the world, frequented them on official business, personally profited from official business, and refused to put those assets into a blind trust? Please.

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            Some people are way too far up orange chimpanzee’s butt to see reality.

            Orange chimpanzee can complain like a whiny little bitch and he can do no wrong.

          • SC Dave

            Ah, the whiny cunt returns.

            Edit: I mean whiny racist cunt.

          • willbest

            1) Your concept of the emoluments clause is… um… limited. I get that some lawyers have made a stink over it (you can find a lawyer to make a stink over anything), but the overwhelming majority that have looked at it just shrug. For starters, its unclear it even applies to the President. Second, the emolument has to be over the fair market value received. So it isn’t enough to purchase shit from Trump, you have to pay him more than what it is worth for it to classify as an emolument. Third, it has to come from a foreign government. That is to say that Russian oil tycoons staying in Trump’s hotels don’t count. The money has to come from the Russian treasury.

            2) Every President since FDR has bombed some country without congressional consent. Maybe Ike didn’t, but certainly every president since Kennedy.

            3) There is no fact admissible in court (triple hearsay can’t make it into any court in the country under any exceptions) that Trump obstructed justice. Incidentally, obstructed justice doesn’t mean asked the FBI director to not investigate, it means things like witness tampering. Lynch telling Comey to cut the shit over Hillary wasn’t obstruction of justice (though that Tarmac meeting presumably was).

      • SC Dave

        Nothing like confirmation bias, eh?

      • AlbertInTucson

        “Journalism”.

        LOL.

  • willbest

    I appreciate that Windows has patched a security hole in my opperating system. I presume that was one of the backdoors the NSA was given, and which was used to create a worldwide ransomware event a few days ago.

    Perhaps it would be wise in the future to tell the NSA to sod off when they come around looking for exploits. But I doubt we citizens can be so lucky.

    • leftcoastdave

      My kid will code me up a linux OS as I have MS and this bootleg copy I am using is for shit.

      • willbest

        Linux doesn’t work for my work related software. I run two computers at work and home though using only highly trusted vendor products on one and web surfing, gaming, etc on the other (in addition to other data security methods). If somebody locked up one of my computers with ransomware, I would just go back to thursday.

    • SC Dave

      I think you’re VERY likely right.

  • BearDown100393

    While everyone bangs out political opinions on their keyboards, Mitch Trubisky is growing stronger and more knowledgeable as the Bears future starting quarterback.

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      Mom Jeanne told him to put away the playbook until the signing bonus hits her account. Trub chillin by Lake Erie.

      • BearDown100393

        Mitch Trubisky does not play for money or personal glory.

        He plays football for the Chicago Bears.

        • leftcoastdave

          Dude is an “I’ll show you” kind of dude. The $$$ and the glory will come with him doing his job like he knows he can.

    • BerwynBomber

      Politics will recede the closer we get to camp and pre-season. This is NFL’s deadest part of the year, which is a testament to its year round popularity.

      • BearDown100393

        Super Bowl Champions are made in rookie camp!

        • SC Dave

          Um, no.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Trub in full bears uni for the first time..

    https://twitter.com/Mtrubisky10/status/865992792073359360

    • SC Dave

      Gawd twitter is stoopid

  • BerwynBomber

    Dickerson’s prediction for the tentative starting lineup. A few Bomber observations:

    1) Cam Meredith not listed (Wheaton and White instead)

    2) Trevathan listed (though Dickerson admits he might not be ready and Kiawtowski will fill instead)

    3) Amos listed (which will bum me out to a degree)

    http://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4705538/bears-could-have-as-many-as-six-new-starters-including-mike-glennon

    • willbest

      So help me if they saddle giraffe with that cripple

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      Amos had his chances for 2 years and did nothing. Deiondre Hall will easily beat him for FS job.. better than Amos in coverage and has nose for the ball.

      I think they cut Amos or moth ball him in some form. Don’t think he is practice squad eligible.

      • BerwynBomber

        If we can afford to keep Amos on the roster as a back-up/STer/spot starter I suppose it would be okay, I guess. But another year as a starter? Nah … he’s a JAG.

        • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

          one of Adrian Amos or Deion Bush will get cut..they will carry 5 safeties at the most.

          Demps – lock
          Eddie Jackson – lock

          Deiondre Hall – will be tried in FS spot. can also play corner in pinch.
          Deandre Houston Carter – crazy good special teamer
          Chris Prosinski – special teamer but JAG
          Adrian Amos – JAG
          Deion Bush – JAG

          • BerwynBomber

            Yup, pretty much concur with your reading/analysis. Only thing is Jackson’s potential health. I really liked the upside of the pick as mid-rounder but he does have significant injury history.

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            I think this is where Deiondre Hall’s flexibility is of value. They can start him as FS to start the season and bring along Eddie Jackson slowly. The hope is that by the end of the season Jackson has taken the spot full time next to Demps.

          • leftcoastdave

            I think it might be the other way around, though, with EJ getting the nod early but Hall secure in flexible roles. It might be that they try to bulk EJ up to SS over time and DH the long term FS which would be more natural for their frames.

          • He blew out his ACL and has a metal rod in his leg just like White.

            Gotta wonder if his explosiveness will be sapped.

            One good thing about Jackson is that he has great instincts and football knowledge, so that could help give him a step or two.

          • It’ll be interesting to see if the coaching staff goes with the steady if unspectacular Amos, or with a lower floor/higher ceiling prospect.

            I would say Demps/Amos SS Locks
            Jackson lock

            Bush or Prosinki back up FS (who starts the season but eventually is taken over by Jackson)

        • SC Dave

          So honestly, how much of the NFL is what people here call JAG? Half? Two-thirds?

          • BerwynBomber

            As starters across the league? Tough to say but no way that much. Just as an example, probably our entire starting secondary (short of a healthy Porter) last year was comprised of them. But on the flip side I don’t know if our starting O line-up had many. Langford, maybe Massie or even Miller but that would be it.

            Plus, in my mind at least, JAGs kinda lose their negative distinction if they’re back-ups or STers. It’s generally as starters where they earn the title.

          • SC Dave

            I meant guys on rosters, but good point. Didnt read closely enough.

          • That would be hard measure, but yeah, I’d say like 2/3s, even on teams like the Pats, who is their best D player?

            That’s why COACHING is so important. They get the most out of JAGS by putting them in the right position from play to play, as well as teaching and preparing them.

            If an avg person goes into a test prepared while a smarter one takes the test last minute, the avg person can score higher.

            Coaching and a franchise QB will ALWAYS give a team a chance to win even when surrounded by JAGS.

            I’m not that upset with Amos. He’s a fifth round borderline starter. IMO, he prolly outperformed his draft slot.

            He’s durable (which is a miracle for Bears S), has size, a sure tackler (hammer) and doesn’t make those WTF blown plays.

            He’s just a step slow, with subpar coverage, and zero ball skills.

          • BerwynBomber

            I’d pick a nit and say you’re way over-estimating the # of JAGs in the league … if you’re talking starters.

            To me a JAG is a guy who can be replaced by anyone on the depth chart in his positional group and the team will miss very little. Just look at our prospective 22 — and no one would argue we are teeming with talent — and I don’t see many JAGs. Maybe Massie. Maybe whoever plays right DE. Maybe Amos. (I think Amos is a JAG but I can see other’s argument for him being a slight step above it). And maybe Prince.

            But that’s about it: four guys out of 22.

            To put it another way I don’t view average starters and even below average starters as JAGs. Cutler wasn’t a JAG. Hoyer wasn’t a JAG. And Glennon — from what sample size we have of his TB years — isn’t a JAG. Barkley? Yeah, probably a JAG. (Or Clausen, if you will.)

            Also, just because the Pats don’t have household PB names on their D, don’t be mistaken about their talent or production. Their secondary alone was top 5 in the league last year. And now they have Gillmore. Granted, Belichick can squeeze blood from a rock, but you don’t finish 8th in the league in total D with a bunch of JAGs. They have some dudes that can play.

      • leftcoastdave

        And Hall is loooooooong. A quarter step slow or not quite strong enough to take on a receiver at the line, but give him space and his length allows him to cover like a blanket.

      • Amos at his draft status is about right. A borderline starter who can come off the bench and play specials.
        He’ll be the backup SS .
        The real action will take place at FS.
        Jackson is staying. So that leaves a bunch of other fliers fighting for a spot.

    • leftcoastdave

      And Bullard. How stoopid is this guy who is supposed to know what he is writing about?

      • SC Dave

        It’s ESPN. You even read it? Get with the program, dude.

  • Bender McLugh
    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      finally a post we all can appreciate.

  • Irish Sweetness

    DaBearsBlog Retweeted

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  • Irish Sweetness

    Wow.

    “Objects in the universe want to live where time moves more slowly .. and gravity puts them there.”
    – Kip Thorne

    You age more quickly up a mountain, than you do at sea-level.

  • Ososfan

    Good stuff but I’m more worried that Pace has YET to sign Hicks to long term deal, I’m getting pretty antsy about that……

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