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Data Entry: A General Manager & His Quarterback

| April 17th, 2017

Throughout the offseason, I’ll be doing a monthly piece here at DaBearsBlog, helping fill the content void of the long offseason. Each one will be a numbers-crunching look at something Bears related in which I attempt to earn the “Data” moniker so kindly bestowed on me by the comments section regulars and, more importantly, answer a Bears question that I’ve been wondering about. If you have anything you’d like me to look into, let me know in the comments or email me at woodjohnathan1@gmail.com and I’ll see what I can do.


As all Bears fans are well aware, this is the offseason of QB change in Chicago. Jay Cutler is gone, Mike Glennon is here on three 1-year deals, and a fresh face is likely coming in the draft.

I have already looked a couple times at quarterbacks from a historical perspective, trying to identify where the best place to draft one is and what to look for in their college background. Today, I want to look at this decision from the perspective of what it means for general manager Ryan Pace.

Getting a good QB is absolutely essential in the NFL. Teams that don’t have one can’t compete for a title, and GMs who fail to acquire one generally don’t last long. Since very few GMs get a 2nd chance after being fired, Ryan Pace is staking his career on at least one of Mike Glennon or “draft pick to be named” panning out.

Or at least that’s the theory. I put it to the test to see if the numbers backed that claim up.

The Setup

I wanted to see what happened to GMs who tried and failed to find their solution at QB. Specifically, how long does it take from when they invest significant resources in the position to when they get fired? Does this differ from those who invest the same resources but successfully identify their QB?

Since there is a very limited recent track record of a backup in one place becoming the answer somewhere else, there’s not really any way of looking into that numerically. It worked for the Bills with Tyrod Taylor, and that’s about the only positive example from the last decade. Most guys who show any sort of potential end up getting a longer look with their original team or traded before their rookie deal runs out. Mike Glennon may in fact be the QB answer the Bears are looking for, but the odds are not exactly in their favor there.

With that in mind, I turned my attention back to the draft, the most likely source of Chicago’s long-term QB solution. Most teams looking for a starter in the near future do so in the first two rounds, so I focused my attention there.

I looked at all 1st and 2nd round quarterbacks drafted between 2005-2014 (staying a few years back because it typically takes time for this to work itself out). I grouped them into “hits” (long-term starters) and “misses,” with a few in-between guys who didn’t really fit either category left out (full list here). I then tracked the general manager (or guy in charge of draft decisions) and how long he lasted at the job following the QB pick.

I should note selections of Andy Dalton and JaMarcus Russell were not considered because they were both made in a situation where the owner was the GM and thus cannot be fired.

The Results

From 2005-14, there were 10 hits in the 1st 2 rounds at quarterback. The average GM lasted for 5 years after that pick (though 4 of the 10 are still employed, meaning that number will be higher), and only 3 were gone within 2 years of that draft.

By contrast, there were 25 misses in the same time period. The average GM lasted for 3.4 years after that pick, and 13 were gone within 2 years. Only four of them are still employed, and they all have somewhat interesting stories that help explain why.
– Rick Spielman was listed as the de-facto GM on Pro Football Reference when Minnesota whiffed on both Tavaris Jackson and Christian Ponder, yet is still the GM there. But this is a bit misleading, because he was not officially the GM when both of these picks were made. They had a group of three people making decisions for a while, and one year after the Ponder pick Spielman was officially promoted to GM while the other two were sent packing.
– Green Bay GM Ted Thompson spent a 2nd round pick on Brian Brohm in 2008, but that is a different scenario than this study intends to look at because he was not looking for a starter but only a backup to Aaron Rodgers. Thus his whiffing on that pick was not as costly as it would be for, say, Ryan Pace in 2017.
– Denver GM John Elway spent a 2nd round pick on Brock Osweiler the same offseason he signed Peyton Manning, an obvious superstar QB. Like Thompson, he was drafting for a backup, not a starter, though Manning’s older age and neck injury status made it a bit less of a luxury pick.
If you remove those 4 picks from the misses data set, the average GM only lasted for 2.5 years after investing a high draft pick on a failed quarterback, with 13 of the 21 gone within 2 years.

1st round only

Clearly, the majority of GMs in the last decade who have invested a high draft pick in a QB who busts don’t last for long. This trend gets even more clear if you only look at 1st round picks, which represent the highest investment in a rookie QB.

Removing the exceptions from above, there were 13 1st round whiffs from 2005-14. 9 of those GMs were fired within the next 2 years, with an average remaining tenure of 2.2 years, while none are still employed. Even if you leave the exceptions in, that turns into 9 of 14 fired within 2 years and an average of 2.4 years remaining in the GM’s tenure.

No Pressure

The data supports the original hypothesis, and it is no exaggeration to say that Ryan Pace’s career is literally on the line this offseason. General managers who invest a high draft pick in a quarterback and watch him bust don’t often get to stick around to try again.

Ryan Pace needs to find a long-term solution at quarterback this offseason, and his best chance is in the first 2 rounds of the draft. But if he misses, history says his career as a GM will likely be over in the next few years.

Pretty much the only exceptions come when the GM is able to salvage his job by successfully finding a QB in free agency. This worked for Elway with Peyton Manning and Arizona GM Rod Graves, who was able to mask Matt Leinart’s stench with a late-career resurgence from Kurt Warner.

Unfortunately for Pace…

…he didn’t get a proven Hall of Fame QB in free agency like Elway and Graves did. He was smart to hedge his bets with Mike Glennon, but the odds still say Pace’s career will ultimately hinge on whatever QB he selects on April 27 or 28.

  • MB30SD

    Not Rd 1 plz… He picks there and he’s toast.

    Hope homie can find some Dak/Wilson/or even Kap magic in later rounds

    • MB30SD

      Oh and konichiwa bitches

      • Sahr Gborie

        Konichiwa MB

    • Irish Sweetness

      ‘Tis where they are found … in the first of the rounds!

  • MB30SD
    • Bender McLugh

      why Mahomes is going be a JAG. The list of failed QBs there is not good company. I’m curious what the list of successful QBs from the air raid offense looks like though.

      “Mahomes has enough size for the quarterback position at 6’2″ and 225 pounds. He also has a rocket arm. What should worry teams is the fact that he comes from the infamous Air Raid offense.

      The list of Air Raid quarterbacks who have struggled to make a proper transition to the NFL includes Jared Goff (still in progress, obviously), Brandon Weeden, Geno Smith, Johnny Manziel and Tim Couch.”

      • MB30SD

        Why in God’s name, if you have NFL inspirations as a college QB, would you go to a school running that garbage offense?!?

        I just don’t get it.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Gruden loves him.

          • MB30SD

            gruden’s a douche

          • Bender McLugh

            haha yep

        • I never get why an NCCA QB would voluntarily play in anything but an NFL type O.
          I assume those who play in flag football Os either weren’t highly recruited, or are too short sighted (which should tip a team off come draft)

  • Jason Oliva

    So what does it say if he doesn’t draft a QB this year? I think this is a very real possibility.

    • King of DBB

      It means Tebow comes to the Windy City?

      We don’t need no stinkin Franchise QB, we have a Sanchize QB

      • Sahr Gborie

        You really don’t like Pace do you?

        • King of DBB

          Have I said that?

          After Emery the fans feel they need to hold this team accountable. Did you read Jeff’s account of coming to Chicago and asking people about the Bears in bars?

          Nobody gives a shit about the Bears in this town outside of serious diehards anymore. And that is squarely on management. They are still selling the skyboxes but the price of PSLs has dropped off drastically – off a cliff – and so the McCaskeys write letters to the fans saying ‘we promise not to suck’

          Pace is a young guy, his drafts have been ok. I think Floyd was a bold choice and minus his concussions, he could be good. White was a bad choice. But he’s picked up good guys in later rounds, so let’s see that continue. And he simply has to hit a home run this draft. He’s flipped the entire scouting org; let’s see if it paid off.

          After this season I will have a concrete opinion of Ryan Pace. So far, I have seen enough to think he should stay. But after the assclown that was Emery, it’s a pretty low bar. By this time in Emery’s career people (including me) were howling at what a dipshit he was.

          • Bender McLugh

            K White no one saw coming

          • King of DBB

            That is highly debatable. There was a rumor, mostly floated by Hub, that all the other teams knew the kid had serious leg issues.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            thats just horse shit. any injury concern to a top ten draft pick would come out pre-draft. If a draft pick has so much as a hang nail it get reported.

          • MB30SD

            it do… it do get reported!

          • Johnnywad

            Hahahahaha. MB pouncing on the typo. Love it.

            Let the games begin.

          • MB30SD

            Well, it is… the Thompson Way Johnny!

            …and you know this… MAAAAAANNN!!!

          • Johnnywad

            🙂

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            He is such a punk.

          • Johnnywad

            You know you spell checked and grammar checked that shit before you posted it.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            SMH! I did.

          • CanadaBear

            I think you and I were two of the first regs to scream about PE. When he hired Nessman I commented PE basically hired the coaching version of himself. Quite quickly it became obvious they both sucked moose wang.

          • King of DBB

            We were Canada. You and I screamed and howled at what a fucking moron had just been hired. I distinctly remember Jeff telling us to chill out and let Emery prove himself.

            He proved himself alright.

          • CanadaBear

            Sometimes the obvious stuff holds the key. He reminded me of Franklin Pangborn. The young guys probably have no idea who he is but once you see him you’ll laugh. Unfortunately PE was about as successful at his job as Franklin as the Bank Examiner in the W.C. Fields movie The Bank Dick.

            https://travsd.wordpress.com/2014/11/29/w-c-fields-in-the-bank-dick/

          • MB30SD
          • CanadaBear

            I kept trying to find a decent image from The Bank Dick. He has those horn-rimmed glasses on and reminds me of PE. Smarmy, not as smart as he thinks he is and easily fooled. If you’ve never seen the movie, it’s funny as hell (if you like W.C. Fields).

          • MB30SD

            meeeeeehhh… but thanks for the info. haha

          • CanadaBear

            I’ll give a couple of good ones from the movie. WC and Franklin walk into The Black Pussy Cafe (yes that’s correct) and WC orders a couple of drinks from the bartender (Shemp Howard). WC asks Shemp if Michael Finn has been in (slip him a mickey) and Shemp says no but he will be. WC goes back to the booth and Franklin asks if he can pull the shade. WC says, you can pull anything you like, it’s a regular joint. WC also asks Shemp if he was in the bar last night and did he spend $20? When Shemp says yes, WC replies, thank goodness, I thought I’d lost it.

          • MB30SD

            (blank stare… slow blinking)

            Like the name of the bar at least.

          • CanadaBear

            It’s one of those you have to see. It helps if you like WC Fields. He and the Marx Bros are my faves.

          • MB30SD

            little past my range of connection my maings. But I’m sure it’s funny.

          • CanadaBear

            Thanks for patronizing me. I needed that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • King of DBB

            Could Jeff rename the blog The Black Pussy Cafe?

            He can just cite the film.

          • CanadaBear

            In the film you keep looking on the window for Cat after Pussy but it just isn’t there.

          • MB30SD

            love it! let’s do it. That graphic is fucking stoopid. smh

          • Johnnywad

            Nessman made Emery look like Paul Bunyan.

          • AlbertInTucson

            And THIS comes from a man who lives in a country that KNOWS its Moose Wang!

    • CanadaBear

      It means Glennon has to pan out. If he doesn’t, Pace will have to pick a winner next year in the draft or he’s gone.

      • Sahr Gborie

        Sell the farm for A.Darnold

        • CanadaBear

          What if Darnold gets hurt or sucks next year? The Bears are way too shitty to be forecasting a year in advance. They have their hands full with this year.

          • Sahr Gborie

            if hes hurts that’s good for us. he drops in value and we can get him

          • CanadaBear

            SMH. Doesn’t it kinda depend on how bad the injury is and to what part of his body?

          • MB30SD

            a sprained penis is no joke canada

          • CanadaBear

            Mine’s too small to sprain.

          • MB30SD

            me too

          • True. Never know. None other than Barkley proved what a diff one college season can make. His Jr. Yr he could’ve come out and been the #1 pick overall. Instead he stays to win the championship, and the rest as they say is history.
            Still. Darnold as od right now checks more boxes than Trub and Co

        • Johnnywad

          Somehow that kid is gonna end up a Patriot. Watch.

          • Sahr Gborie

            i will stop watching football

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I guess that is One reason for me to root for the Patriots.

    • Sahr Gborie

      No way. He will take one. Maybe not in the 1st 3 rounds

    • Irish Sweetness

      That he believes in Gummo. For a year.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Oddly enough, had Ryan Pace let Jay Cutler play out his contract and trotted him out for the next 3 years the author (a known Cutler apologist) would be happy and Pace’s job would not be in jeopardy.

    Results be damned, Cutler “looked” the part. Too bad Pace could not figure this out.

    • I’ve stated on here multiple times that the Bears should get rid of Cutler this offseason and get a new guy.

      Cutler is aging and has a long injury history, so the time is right for Pace to find his guy for the long haul.

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        Forget Cutler’s injury (he never played full season since 2010), he was just not good. He could not maximize the team’s potential when the defense was very good. He was not disciplined enough to cut down his mistakes

        Bears enjoyed more success in 3-4 years prior to Cutler than they did in 8 years of Cutler.

        Pace will be fine if he continues to build the roster. A well-build roster and a game manager qb can lead to more success than Bears ever had with Cutler. Look at the Jags. I am sure you would approve of their strategy of taking QBs high in first round and keep busting. They went all in on Blaine Gabbert in 2011 (moved from 16 to 10 to get the ‘top’ qb in the draft). He was good for only 3 years. Then they took Blake Bortles with #3 pick in 2014. And 3 years later, he is close to being a bust. If the Jags had just continued to build the roster and used a Ryan Fitzpatrick type at QB, they would have had more success today than they had since 2011.

        • there’s no guarantee you hit, but you have to try. Without a QB, you can’t contend.

  • King of DBB

    I buy all my kid’s clothes (and some of my clothes) at Kohl’s.

    Every Chicagoland Kohl’s usually has their sports section just to left the door. This weekend I saw something at one Kohl’s and it prompted me to visit the alternate Kohl’s equidistant from my house to see if it was a trend.

    The Sports section had a ton of:

    Cubs t-shirts
    Cubs jerseys
    Sox t-shirts
    Sox jerseys
    Sox and Cubs pullovers
    Blackhawks shirts, pullovers and full on NHL jerseys
    Bulls gear, inlcuding tanks, t-shirts and hoodies
    Fighting Illini gear
    Some Indiana, MSU and Michigan stuff
    Chicago Fire soccer jerseys
    Generic Champion stuff

    Missing something? Something else besides Illini gear that is navy and orange?

    Nope. Nothing. Nada. All gone. For the first time I can recall, there was NO Chicago Bears swag at Kohl’s. Now maybe they had a falling out with the NFL merchandise policy, I don’t know. But I don’t think it was missed.

    • CanadaBear

      It’s kinda the wrong time of the year for Bears merch but you would think there would be some stuff. Between the NFL losing fans and the Bears sucking for the better part of a decade, the McCaskey’s should be concerned. Hopefully concerned enough to sell.

      • MB30SD

        Just start by firing Ted

        • King of DBB

          preferably both.

          • SC Dave

            One bite at a time, GP.

        • BearDown100393

          Nauseating that Terrible Ted is actually paid to destroy the Bears.

      • King of DBB

        It might (it probably) will show up in August when pre-season starts. But I had never seen the store minus any gear.

      • Did anyone watch that ESPN special on Bear stands? Are they sporting new jerseys or Bears circa 06 and 85?

    • willbest

      Which Bear Jersey you buying? We have a rookie RB that looks like he is a stud and maybe worth the $150 gamble, but outside of that we have a fan favorite RG that is breaking down and might not even be ready for the start of the season. How about general swag?

      They are coming off a crappy season, there is no draft in Chicago this year to drive Bears buzz, and its in the dead middle of the off-season. How many generic bears logos shirts you think you can move in a week? 2 or 3? For which you have to dedicate say a single stand to?

      At the same time the hawks and bulls are in the playoffs, and the baseball season just started. Floor space isn’t infinite. Its rather brutal being a brick and mortar store.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        BRAVERMAN!!!!

        • willbest

          I walked into that one.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I do appreciate the setup.

      • CanadaBear

        I don’t buy Bears merch but if I was going to get a jersey it would probably be Howard. Kyle is my favorite Bear right now but if he keeps breaking down he won’t be in the league much longer.

        • I don’t own any bears jersey, but if i buy one, I’d have to go historical first. Then it would be a toss up between Sweetness and Butkus.
          Ditka might’ve made the cut but he’s such an ass hat.
          If i had mucho $ I’d buy hall of horror jersey. Mirer. Conte. Shae. Mamamalu…

          • willbest

            Wife has a Cutler Jersey. Got 7 years out of it. Not bad. I have a Payton jersey, which won’t ever go bad.

          • Sactowns#1

            I really want an old school Sid Luckman jersey!

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        It has become a running joke with a friend of mine. Someone in his family buys him a Bears Jersey for his birthday almost every year. I am pretty sure they are always an offensive players jersey. He has a great collection: Salaam, Mirer, Enis, McNown, Benson, Terrell, Grossman.

        • MB30SD

          enviable collection. hope he gets white this year… or carey

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            he already has White.

            That’s the funny part of it. The family is not trying to be funny about it. His family is not into football so they usually pick the most recently drafted or recent FA that is supposed to be good. My guess is he gets a Glennon jersey this year.

          • MB30SD

            oh sweet jesus christo! that’s even better.

            Hilarious!

        • CanadaBear

          That’s awesome! What a fun family!

        • Tortured Bear fan

          what a creepy “Hall of Bears´s disgrace” collection

    • Bender McLugh

      wow, that’s nutso

    • AlbertInTucson

      The wife LOVES Kohl’s.

      Spent 25 minutes sitting in the parking lot listening to local sports talk while she foraged for deals tonight.

      I have some stuff from there, too and with the bonuses and coupons we get great deals.

      AND they have a decent toy department. Which is Important for someone with a 18 Month old grandson to spoil!

  • MB30SD
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    • MB30SD
      • CanadaBear

        They already have 100 CB’s but Flowers is probably better than almost all of them.

        • MB30SD

          agree, I’d take a flyer for the right price.

          Who’s I’d really love to poach from that team is verrett… that kid is a total stud.

        • willbest

          Our 6 CBs this season look like they will be
          Prince, Cooper, Fuller, Callahan, Hall, draft pick.

          I expect they will get all they can from Fuller since they are forced to pay him anyway. I doubt they cut Hall so early. That leaves Callahan who was the 2nd best CB we had last year as the odd man out if we brought in Flowers

          • CanadaBear

            Isn’t one of those guys moving to S?

          • willbest

            maybe? Not a lot of room for them there if we draft Adams. Adams, Demps, Amos, ???. Is Quarty still around Bush. Some H-C kid I think… Toss in Hall?

          • CanadaBear

            Other than Prince, Cooper, Callahan and probably Fuller, the other guys seem interchangeable and not very good. I’d include Fuller in that group if his salary wasn’t guaranteed. Same with safeties. Other than Demps, meh.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            the others are tackling dummies and special team fodder.

          • At S Amos will stick as a valued backup -sp teamer (could be worse right? See McMannis)

          • Hall might move to S. Or jail. Which ever comes first. I’d rather try him out at S than Quartay

          • willbest

            Wasn’t it just drunken disorderly with Hall? Jail seems a bit harsh.

          • There’s disorderly conduct than there’s spitting in a cop’s face.
            But ur right. He’ll lawyer up and get a shitload of community service and probation.
            Btw, i knew a chick that worked at a place that took in high profile football players and actors (ahem, Lohan) to do community service. They’re not given neon vests to pick up road kill next to FWYs like the rest of us, that’s for sure. And i think a few even attended their service w their fucking assistants! Smh

          • MB30SD

            2 cop’s faces.

            lovely man. asshole

          • Irish Sweetness

            Hall.

          • Tortured Bear fan

            don´t pass on LeBlanc. still in roster

          • LeGone

          • Bender McLugh

            haha I’m a bit higher on him than most of you around here, but only with his potential to get better, which he’ll need to do in order to stick

          • MB30SD

            fuck yes. dude was abject dog crap… him and the other cunt.

    • King of DBB

      oh sorry!

      • MB30SD

        HOW DAAAAARE YOU!!!!

        I didn’t give an intro anyway. that and I’m hurt you don’t click my links

        • King of DBB

          you got sweet mocha to lick your kinks.

          • MB30SD

            she’s in LA. Gonna take a bit of a miracle to get her down here, and fuuuuck going to LA. That said, she’s pretty fucking gorgeous.

  • King of DBB

    Pace is “antsy”

    Got ants in his pants – he be Jonesin to trade down

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/17/report-49ers-bears-most-antsy-to-trade-down-in-first-round/

    • Johnnywad

      Josh Alper. A bastion of all things draft news.

      Wonder if the Niners will still want to trade back when the Browns go to the podium and Browns.

      • MB30SD

        “and with the FIRST! pick in the 2017 NFL draft, the Cleveland Browns select….

        …Marshon Lattimore!!, corner back, ohio state university”

        Think this might have been posted already, if so whoops: https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/04/14/nfl-draft-browns-first-pick-round-1-rumors

        • King of DBB

          Pace would have a draft-gasm (I think) if the Browns take Trub.

          It will start a panic run on QBs, and his phone should start a ringin with teams wanting to move up and grab Watson.

          There is a chaos card here that has us getting Myles Garrett in all of this.

          • MB30SD

            MAYBE… that would be silly though. As I posted somewhere on this thread and last. The browns simply can’t afford to continue to be total fuck ups. At some point they have to stop being absurd and taking flyers on brutally high-risk QBs with their high picks.

            That and the fact that they pulled a shocking sonny fucking weaver in FA tells me they won’t be idiots this draft and will just take garrett.

            What I worry about is good ol #47 taking his position-sake and then pace takes allen and his old man shoulders

          • Tortured Bear fan

            there is a saying In spanish “A rio revuelto, ganancia de pescadores”, fits perfect with your post.

          • Yup. The Brown factor. Not to be mistaken as the Shizer effect.

            The run can start at #2 also.

            There are some teams like the Jets and such who are thinking they’re sitting pretty, but if the Browns and 9ers draft QB, the alarms will go off, and a QB stampede will ensue.

            And all the good teams already with Qbs like the Pats and Puke will just be laughing their ass off and getting better players.

      • Sahr Gborie

        they need a qb more than they need pass rush

  • MB30SD

    Interesting, but not sweet enough in my mind. Make it a 2 not a 3, and you have a deal: http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/story/_/id/19157025/bill-barnwell-2017-all-trades-mock-nfl-draft-first-round-deals-all-32-teams

    • Sahr Gborie

      remember when i posted this possibility a few weeks ago MD….Jets want and NEED a QB real bad. I hear you about the 2 but they wont do it. We should go for the higher 3rd round pick they have at @70 plus their 5th rounder. If not we ask them for 2017-1st, 2018-2nd and 2017-5th

      • Tortured Bear fan

        Bears should strip Jest to pick more players!!

      • Irish Sweetness

        They won’t do it? No deal then.

    • SC Dave

      If I’m Carolina and get that trade, I pick Fournette. So much for the Jags trade down.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Panthers want Fournette. We get their 8th pick and 40th (plus whatever). That means we could still possibly draft Adams, Hooker, OJ Howard etc. Plus it means you can draft a Budda Baker AND Bolles, say, in the second.

      • MB30SD

        Sure, if the offer comes

      • SC Dave

        They damn well should.

        I think that is about our best shot for a good trade, but I’m not holding my breath.

  • BearDown100393

    I dunno. Apart of me cannot let go of the idea that Pacebot is the NFL Galen Erso and Mike Glennon is the Bears’ 2 meter thermal exhaust post leading to the reactor system.

  • Sahr Gborie

    http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2017/4/17/15324038/chicago-bears-jamal-adams-deshaun-watson-malik-hooker-third-overall-pick-roundtable-nfl-draft-2017

    The Bears can add a star at a less impactful position such as safety and
    that player can be really good, but the team could also go never go
    anywhere because the quarterback can’t play well. Even an average passer
    in the modern era would have more impact than most any other player.
    It’ll always come back to him and I’d prefer taking the risk versus
    going with “safe” options in that light – if there is such a thing in
    the lottery of the draft.

    interesting take on why we should draft a qb

  • Sahr Gborie

    http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2017/4/17/15324038/chicago-bears-jamal-adams-deshaun-watson-malik-hooker-third-overall-pick-roundtable-nfl-draft-2017

    Jamal Adams, because he’s a 10-year type player. He’s solid across the board: No injury history, smart, fast, good coverage skills, and instinctive. He also fixes a serious hole that we are desperately in need of fixing and is a day-one starter.

    I know the “value” argument on taking a safety at third, but if he steps in and plays like most predict he will, then he’s worth the money. He has Pro Bowl potential and the Bears just spent a No. 1 pick on a pass rusher last year. So factor in Leonard Floyd becoming a double digit sack guy, plus a top prospect in the secondary, and suddenly Chicago’s defense has some teeth.

    reasons to take Adams @#3

    • MB30SD

      born leader and MASSIVE lockerroom badass… dude was made a captain at DBU as a FRESHMAN!

      That can’t be stated enough

      • Sahr Gborie

        Factor in Leonard Floyd becoming a double digit sack guy, plus a top
        prospect in the secondary, and suddenly Chicago’s defense has some
        teeth. – I’m officially on the Adams train

        • MB30SD

          you’re more fickle than a san diego 9 dood.

          Welcome back to square 1.

          Ps. The only thing I’m afraid floyd is going to rack up is concussions. It’s a huge concern for me… two in your first season is not good at all. Not like they become harder to get.

          • Sahr Gborie

            i was never an Adams fan. It took time. I was all for J.Allen from day 1

          • MB30SD

            fucking ALLEN?!?!?!? Oh jesus christ. The second I watched that loafer in the nat champ game I said… PASSSSS!!!!!

            (that and for a dlinemen to have bad shoulders is… bad.

          • King of DBB

            What is a 9 dood?

          • MB30SD

            better than an 8, but not as good as a 10?

          • Something to do w a cackring, I’m sure

          • Big Mike

            Both of his concussions were caused by bad technique. He dipped his head both times.

          • MB30SD

            and you think that will change this late? Like hoping your 38 year old wife is going to stop being a bitch… just because. know what I’m sayin mike

          • Big Mike

            I believe it can be coached. Yes.

          • MB30SD

            in the heat of battle the career-long habits come out. you know this.

            I hope to hell he can stop doing it, just worried about it.

          • Big Mike

            He’s a 2nd year NFL player and pretty young as well. I’d like to say I was sure they could coach it out of him. Muscle memory is tough to retrain, but it can be done.

      • SC Dave

        Been my song all along on that guy.

        • MB30SD

          Yep, 100%

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s a hitter not a tackler.

        Think he’ll just lose that attitude in the pros?

        • MB30SD

          Don’t get what you’re watching maings… Google his highlight tape. He’s both… Very good at both

  • Sactowns#1

    So, I’ve been offered a job in Portland. Anyone have any opinions on living in the wet north west?

    • MB30SD

      do you like the sun at all?

      Not like fucking sacto isn’t a toilet. ; )

    • willbest

      Portland is full of very weird white people. I suspect it will be fairly decent culture shock to you.

    • King of DBB

      Isn’t there a show called Portlandia?

      Armisen is apparently a sociopath

      http://gawker.com/fred-armisen-has-a-reputation-1677187580

    • Big Mike

      It’s very liberal. Get a tattoo. Visit a weed dispensary. But it’s also a fantastic

      place to get out and take a hike. Zoning is odd. Been going there on business for a few times a year for a while. The sun does come out. Much more than perception. Compared to Sacramento, it’s bigger, whiter, wetter and more liberal and 16% more expnsive

      http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/sacramento_ca/portland_or/people

      http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/sacramento-ca/portland-or/100000

      • MB30SD

        pssst… miiiike. Sac is one of the most liberal on the blog. He’ll be fiiiine in that regard.

        Tell him about the beer and skiing and he’ll be good.

        • willbest

          There is liberal and then there is hipster liberal or anarchist liberal.

          • MB30SD

            well, he doesn’t have any ‘radical’ piecings if that’s what you mean… well, none that I could see… he never offered to show me his prince albert.

            ;_ (

          • Sactowns#1

            Oh I offered. Remember, I asked if you wanted to see the engagement ring I was going to give to that girl.

          • MB30SD

            nice! forgot.

          • Said it before but anarchists aren’t liberals. They’re pretty much “right” of libertarians
            Sac is a dem socialist i think , so won’t be building anti-JanetReno bunkers any time soon

          • MB30SD

            as opposed to my janet reno shrine?

          • willbest

            Depends on which aspect you look at. Anarchists aren’t that big on extreme respect for property rights. So in that sense there is a chasm of difference between them and libertarians. But if you are talking about hatred of government, then yes they are rather similar in that regard.

            I didn’t say Sac would fall in with them, or that he would be tripping over them everywhere he went there. But its a different flavor of liberalism than he is used to, I presume. I haven’t been to Sacramento, but capital of a deep blue state seems to be the exact sort of place for a social democrat to thrive.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Are there any actual anarchists out there other than ISIS?

            Or do you mean the twat-packers with Daddy’s Gold Card in their back pocket? :o)

          • Irish Sweetness

            “If you label me you negate me.” – Soren Kierkegaard.

        • Big Mike

          The beer.. wow. I can’t believe I forgot that. Perhaps too many. Every establishment sports at least a 1/2 dozen micro brews. I’ve yet to have a terrible one. I’ve had some phenemonal beer in Portland.

          • MB30SD

            I think you just made up his mind for him

          • Big Mike

            And dozens of strip clubs. Not that I’ve frequented, but you see the signs. 🙂

          • MB30SD

            right. ‘as i’ve read on the innernnessses’

            as a side note, I’m not a fan of the strip club. Lame if you ask me. Just jump on tinder/bumble… buy a drink and then it usually ends up, you can touch whatever you want… and more.

          • Big Mike

            Not my scene. Occasionally clients “NEED” to be taken.

          • MB30SD

            yeah. I always left that to my bro. He was always the p-i-g pig and I was the stable one-girl man.

            Oh how the tables have turned. That said, still not a strip club guy… always seems like the bastion of the desperate ugly guy.

            Like live dolls or hookers.

          • willbest

            I find it fascinating that the US has lead the way in a beer renaissance. Perhaps we were just thirstier. Decades of mass market bud/mgd left us craving something new and better. In Europe they had decent beer available and thus less motivation for enterprising brewers to get creative. At least that is my theory.

          • MB30SD

            seems reasonably logical.

            They have and do have tons of great beer (have you ever been to belgium for christ’s sake?!?) so don’t need to have a renaissance… they had theirs hunderts a years ago… yo.

          • Big Mike

            The phenomena of the micro-brewery is part of a growing trend of smaller companies. There is a quiet emergence of an entrepreneur class that is focused on building lifestyle businesses. Numerous factors backing this trend, but the erosion of middle class “jobs” that has been caused by automation and globalization is a key factor.

          • SC Dave

            America was the best place in the world for beer. Brewing traditions from around the world in the great melting pot.

            Then along came the temperance union fanatics and Prohibition. Killed thousands and thousands of breweries.

            Only in the last 30 years have we recovered.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Seemed like the only big domestic beer on tap in bars is PBR, which I found hilarious.

    • CanadaBear

      This last winter was awful and spring is about a month behind so it’s still raining a lot. If Portland’s weather is anything like Seattle’s (and Vancouver Island where I live), it’s a temperate climate that doesn’t get too hot or cold. Typically, April through October are really nice. Some rain but not all that much. November through March, expect lots of rain and cloudy skies. That’s the biggest adjustment out here, not a lot of sun in the winter. I know you like to hike and the outdoors so that part is great. Just make sure you have a good rain suit. I love living here but it really does wear on you when storm after storm comes through. That usually only happens 2-3/winter but it’s pretty nuts. We rarely have electrical storms. The first two winters we had about 1 inch of snow total for both winters. Last winter was fucked. The temp was way below normal and we ended up with a lot of snow. Locals tell me that happens about once a decade. Normal temps here range from highs of low 40’s in the winter and mid 70’s in the summer to lows of low 30’s in the winter and low 50’s in the summer.

      • Sactowns#1

        Thanks Canada. I do anticipate a fair amount of winter doldrums and it will certainly take a while for me to get used to the slower pace there. It seems like its a lot like Sac. population wise, geography, price etc. The major plusses are they’re a little closer to the snow, they get better touring bands/ performers to come through and it isn’t 110 in the summer.
        Major draw backs are, it isn’t very diverse (I like my POC) I don’t have roots there and it doesn’t get hot enough in the summer to really enjoy the rivers.
        But as with everything, I’m sure it will come down to money.

    • BearDown100393

      I have opinions. But none based on actual knowledge or experience.

      • willbest

        My Graunt lived there, but I haven’t been in a decade. They were weird back then too though.

        • MB30SD

          wtf is a graunt?

          Is that anything similar to a great aunt? what was so great about her?

          • Great aunt?
            Gravy unitard?

          • MB30SD

            gravy unitard would be good for you

          • willbest

            great aunt. As in my grandpa’s sister. And she is still alive at 105, which puts her in the top 0.1% of humans in that regard.

          • MB30SD

            fuck dat. The second I can move around reasonably on my own… I’m out.

          • willbest

            She was mobile until a couple years ago, and her mind didn’t start going until a few months ago, but from what I have heard from one of my cousins its been fading rapidly. I don’t know how much time she has left, but at some point as you said its time.

          • Oh dang. She’s as old as my graunt. Though she prolly doesn’t get fueled by cheapness and bitterness like mine.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      My brother lives in Portland, i am heading there this summer for his wedding. These are the things my brother bitches about most. The housing market is outrages and is only getting worse. High speed internet options are awful, utilities are fairly high especially water. A lot of cyclist that think they own the road- he’s right on this one I almost hit 3 bikers the last time I was out there for a few days. The amount of homeless people is crazy. Expect your car to be broken into even if you live in a good neighborhood. If you don’t already, start drinking micro brews and spend hours debating the amount of hops or wheat should be in beer or stupid shit like that. A bunch of tree hugger types that will protest everything. My brother had a group show up at his house to protest when he cut down a dead tree in his yard. A bunch of weird artist type people so a lot of interesting events and festivals. On a side note I found it weird you can’t pump your own gas in Oregon.

      • King of DBB

        A bunch of tree hugger types that will protest everything. My brother had a group show up at his house to protest when he cut down a dead tree in his yard.

        Really? That is fucked up. They did that in Michigan and there would be dogs on their nappy asses.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          His neighbor down the street saw the crew show up to cut it down and immediately tried to stop them. My brother said within 20 mins there were 15 people on his lawn trying to stop them. He had to call the police to get them to leave. All over a dead tree.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Oh I forgot, if you are a bad driver I believe it is a requirement that you drive a Subaru Forester.

        • MB30SD

          I thought they just issued you one when you bought a house there?

      • beninnorcal

        Sounds exactly like SF.

      • SC Dave

        Don’t forget flocks of pouting ninnies blocking interstates.

  • King of DBB
    • Bender McLugh

      ugh…..please not in the first round, please not in the first round….

      • willbest

        If they have traded back to say 10 and picked up a second this year and next year, I would deal with it. At #3 though, don’t get cute. Thomas or Adams.

    • Wouldn’t draft him even in the 2nd.

      • King of DBB

        The Bears have now done a private workout with all 4 QBs considered 1st Rnd talent.

        They are the ONLY team to have had ALL FOUR come in for private workouts.

        So either this is a motherfucker feint, or we be gettin a QB in RNd 2.

        • MB30SD

          watson
          trubz
          kiezer
          and… who’m I missing?

          • willbest

            Mahomes goes up and down the board. Some people that aren’t completely insane think he has the best NFL future.

          • MB30SD

            Who fucking knows with these guys right

          • King of DBB

            Mahomes

          • MB30SD

            smh, dude sounds like he suuuuucks

          • Irish Sweetness

            Beathard.

          • MB30SD

            4th rd

        • The Pacebot algorithms are churning

          GoodS < avgQB?

          10100101010010100

        • Sahr Gborie

          Am i the only one who is afraid he is going to take a QB @3 and pass on Adams

  • Bender McLugh
    • King of DBB
      • Bender McLugh

        not sure what to take away from that article snippet except that Lee Atwater learned the media-public trick and passed it along to his fellow douche-men.

        • King of DBB

          The press in 1922 said “Hitler’s anti-semitism was all an act, he doesn’t really believe it.”

          Alex Jones lawyer is arguing “his beliefs are all an act, he doesn’t really believe that shit.”

          • MB30SD

            so bender, GP is basically saying that this coont is hitler reincarnate.

            Or, he’s just using the same trick. You know, one of those.

          • Bender McLugh

            yeah, took me a bit, but I’m there now

          • SC Dave

            I’d bet on the hyperbole

          • Bender McLugh

            ding ding! that was the bell in my head going off…

    • willbest

      In private matters, it doesn’t get any uglier than a custody suit.

    • CanadaBear

      Whenever I’ve seen him (which is rarely) it always seems like he’s going to have an aneurysm. Not to mention totally full of shit.

  • Good digging though the GM vaults, Data. Didn’t even think about the Spielman situation. Then of course there’s other murky situations like w Bill and Jerrah.
    I also would argue that Pace and the Bears fall into a gray area.
    Has any other team payed a think tank to hire the new HC BEFORE the GM?
    This makes Pace’s tenure a bit diff from the avg GM hire.
    Pace was stuck w Cutler and Fox.
    This buys him more rope IMO.
    If the Bears stink this yr, they won’t fire Pace because of that.
    Pace will ve given chance to get HIS HC-QB starting next season, and that combo may very well be McDaniels and Jimmy G.

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      I think both Pace and Fox get at least 2017 and 2018 to turn things around. In some ways, this year is true year 1 of the rebuild because they were hamstrung by the Cutler contract. Don’t forget, Fangio was saying this back in December.

      Fangio: Defense I inherited not ‘built for anything’

      “I think the scheme thing is overblown because you’re playing a lot of nickel right now,” he said. “And the group we inherited wasn’t built for the 4-3 either, obviously, by the two years they had prior to us getting here. So they weren’t built for anything. We had to start at ground zero.”

      If they are saying this in public, then I am sure the same case has been made to the ownership.
      As for Mccaskeys, I doubt they are too keen to fire Fox after this year and pay him $5 million for sitting at home. After all, they paid Lovie $5 million for sitting at home, paid Trestman for 2 years for sitting at home, and paid Emery for 2 years for sitting at home. That is a lot of wasted $$.

      • It depends on the Bears record.

        Fox is 9-23 as of right now.

        If they’re in week 6 and have only won ONE or even 2 games,the pitchforks will come out, and the McCaskeys will not be able to fend off the villagers pounding at the gates.

        (I could see it now in my crystal ball on the Trib, “Fangio should be interim…”

        Fox must not only reach AT LEAST .500 this season, he’s gotta stay within range of .500 for the entirety of the season or risk losing the team, media, fans, and ultimately, ownership.

        And even IF he somehow manages .500, that’ll “boost” his record to 17-31, which is worse than Trestman I think, and as such, many will be calling for his head anyways, esp if McDaniels finally decides to leave the Pats (coincidentally around the same time Jimmy G becomes more or less free). Gotta remember we scrimmaged against the Pats and have some odd connection with them, so the McD-Jimmy gambit would be awfully alluring over a hypothetical 17-31 Fox/Glennon future.

        • MB30SD

          Fuck yes. I think pace has that rope… Fox is almost dangling now. That motherfucker better blow it UP next year or… HeGone! As it should be, that’s a fucking abysmal record, jesus.

          Matt Patricia for HC… Frankenmanning for head (get it?) Of football ops

          • Patricia and Darnold would also be acceptable.

            I’m not entirely quitting on the Fox/Glennon plan, but their rope is short – very fucking short. One season short.

          • MB30SD

            agree… not like we have a choice now anyway.

        • BearDown100393

          Giraffe ain’t winning 8.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Wasn’t fox also ‘stuck’ with Cutler? Why does Pace get a pass?

      QB is his responsibility as GM.

  • MB30SD

    and now for something completely different.

    This is interesting: http://uncrate.com/article/clear-coffee/

    Yonny, you can get this for your man crush’ bday this year: http://uncrate.com/article/one-drop-diabetes-tools/

  • Sahr Gborie

    what we could have had in 2011
    DT – Muhammad Wilkerson (taken one pick after Carimi)
    C – Rodney Hudson (taken two picks after Paea)
    LB – K.J. Wright (taken six picks after Conte)
    QB – Tyrod Taylor (taken 20 picks after Enderle)
    OT – Derek Newton (taken 19 picks after Thomas)

    what we took in 2011
    1st Round – Gabe Carimi (OT, Wisconsin)
    2nd Round – Stephen Paea (DT, Oregon State)
    3rd Round – Chris Conte (S, Cal)
    5th Round – Nathan Enderle (QB, Idaho)
    6th Round – J.T. Thomas (LB, West Virginia)

    • MB30SD

      hindsight is always 20/20 yo. if my gruant had balls dude.

      • willbest

        Seems like we had a pretty clear vision of what wasn’t going to pan out, and drafted that

        • MB30SD

          yes, that’s certainly the way it seems now. and we’re the bears, sooo….

          that said, you can do this for pretty much erra team, erra draft.

      • Sahr Gborie

        Angelo’s last draft class. Just as bad as Emery’s first. Angelo’s philosophy was to draft a player who’s floor was acceptable instead of looking for players with high ceilings and if he missed at least he tried. That’s like going for the ugly friend in the group so you can say you have a girl instead of going for the hot chick and striking out

        • MB30SD

          yes. and perfect analogy.

          That was angelo 100%

          • Sahr Gborie

            i could agree with 20/20 if i thought his drafting was bad due to passive bullshit but it was active fuckery on his part

          • King of DBB

            Angelo – Fucking more ugly broads than Lena Dunham.

          • MB30SD

            easy now, that was a low blow.

          • CanadaBear

            I saw a couple of episodes when it first came out and thought meh and never watched it again. Saw part of the final episode, nothing had changed.

          • BearDown100393

            This needs to be pinned at the top.

    • Bender McLugh

      Nathan fucking Enderle. Is that scout still employed?

      • CanadaBear

        The bad thing is he doesn’t immediately jump out at you as the worst pick of the bunch! Fucking Glitchy!

        • MB30SD

          idaho.

          For fuck sake, stop picking small school guys!

          Sure there are guys like jerra rice and shit, but come one maings.

          • CanadaBear

            It’s one of my favorite states to bike in but not exactly known as a football hotspot.

  • MB30SD

    Haven’t posted this in a bit, so why not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXMyZ929lpY

    Guest appearance by Dan ‘my life is better in a month than in everyone else’ entire life’ blizerian.

  • MB30SD
    • CanadaBear

      Needs to do some crunches.

      • MB30SD

        hahahaha… tiger crunches.

        Fucking fat azzzzzzzz! hahahaha

        That pic just made me laugh looking at it.

  • King of DBB

    Fast & Furious 8 made $100M this weekend. Beating all Star Wars films. But, you know, the Rock catches a torpedo with his HANDS!

    I’m old enough to remember the first Fast & Furious movie. Here’s a clip:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PidGIVYeC4

    • willbest

      International box office record of $532 m passing Force Awakens 529. Its US box was pretty lackluster. A paltry 99 million doesn’t even break the top 40 in domestic market. By contrast TFA crushed it with 247 million. Meaning it got 433 million in foreign box office.

      Just to underscore how ridiculous its foreign record was, the previous holder was Jurassic World at 316 million.

      Who loves the franchise? China. F&F 8 pulled in a record 190 million in China on opening weekend. Surpassing the previous record holder in China, F&F 7, which had a 180 million opening weekend.

      • I imagine there’s a huge cross over of Fast Furious fans who also wear camo cargo shorts and flat brimmed hats.

        This is what I think about ppl who watch Fast Furious 12.3 cylinder

        (NTTAWWT)

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IICPLHDOz70

        • MB30SD

          Yeah, not my thing

        • Irish Sweetness

          I remember going into school one day and the kids were crying in their classroom.
          Through blurry eyes they said “Paul …. Walker …. died.”

          I said “Who?. The guy from F&F. I laughed hard.

          Was that their James Dean?

          • CanadaBear

            I think you hit the nail on the head. Everything I’ve ever read about him was good. Sounded like he was a really nice guy. I’ve never seen a F&F movie.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Just sad.

  • MB30SD

    yonny, maybe ask the wife if this’d be cool: http://uncrate.com/article/1958-porsche-356-a-1600-super-speedster/

    GP, you don’t have to ask anyfuckingone… and yes, I’m still pissed at you.

  • MB30SD
    • willbest

      What did I just watch?

      • MB30SD

        commercial

        • willbest

          I gathered that much. But I don’t understand what anybody was doing or why. They need to stick to things you might see in the real world like a horse helping a dog find its way back to the firehouse.

    • BearDown100393
      • MB30SD

        totally

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Heard Mahomes had private work out with Bears. Looks like Pace and Fox are already having Cutler withdrawal symptoms.

    When Mahomes leaves the pocket (which is pretty much every play), he dangles the ball in one hand exactly like Jay Cutler. Playing style is also similarly reckless to Cutler’s coming out of Vanderbilt (thinking you can make any/every throw without setting feet, trying to truck guys much bigger than you etc.)

    Watch this video starting 13:45 mark..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7whWGQ5cOLg

    Gruden slaps him around with friendly banter (“you are reckless”, “quit trying to be a hero” etc.) but you can tell he would chew his ass out if he were his real coach. Dude has not been coached at all.

    Gruden tells him to put two hands on the ball. Think about it… A potential first round QB (some are crazy enough to say he is a top 10) has to be told to put two hands on the ball.

    • BearDown100393

      They’ll draft him.

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        Oh yeah, I am sure someone will draft him. may be even high.

        And he will magically quit all his bad habits just like Cutler did.

        • BearDown100393

          I mean the Bears. Just like Jay. Cannot resist. Because it makes zero sense. So that means he is perfect.

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            Not a chance. Pace will not draft him. Pace’s entire scouting career was with NO and he saw up close Drew Brees practicing the tiniest details to become an elite QB. I doubt Pace will fall for some like Pat Mahomes. He will always rely on his arm and skip the little details.

          • BearDown100393

            Pace is more Phillips now. Twisted and evil.

        • It only took Cargo 12 yrs and it was worth the 100m + and SB. Oh wait, that Bucs game was last yr and he’s ass-tanning in Cancun. Nvm.

          • MB30SD

            Mmmmmmm, assassss tanning in cannedpooooon!

    • madscout12

      I’d take him in a second…in the third.

      • leftcoast dave

        “Give him ten years in Levenworth! Eleven years in Twelveworth!

    • BerwynBomber

      Cutler was a more polished pocket passer than Mahomes. But Mahomes is the superior instinctual athlete — hence the Favre comparison.

      • leftcoast dave

        C. J. Beathard. Pro set offense, run first. Football family in the blood. Get him in the fifth.

        Hairball redux.

        • BerwynBomber

          If we punt on the first round or second round QB until ’18, I’d be fine with taking Beathard late. But we already signed Shaw for the year so I doubt we take a QB (this year) unless it is in the first two rounds.

          • leftcoast dave

            Beathard is a pocket passer with the blood lines and experience starting at Iowa, taking second in the conference in 15, beaten by Mich State in the title game, got their butts kicked in two bowl games, but still all the experience which goes with it. Dude fits the team profile like Hairball did. Big Ten football.

          • CanadaBear

            Harbaugh was a first rd pick. Beathard is JAG.

        • Johnnywad

          Who is Hairball?

          • leftcoast dave

            For you youngsters, that is what we called Harbaugh when he was losing in Chicago.

          • BerwynBomber

            Always wondered if we did right by Harbaugh (aka … did Ditka have the slightest clue how to develop a QB).

            Harbaugh goes to the Colts. Wins Comeback POY, AFC POY, and but for a dropped INT and Hail Mary, almost takes the Colts to the SB after leading them to two post-season road victories

    • But he can back peddle 60 yd triple coverage kamikazi bombs!
      “Exciting”

      • MB30SD

        Sounds familiar

    • Irish Sweetness

      If he drafts a guy in the 2nd because he’s afraid of missing in the first …

  • MB30SD

    devour… food you want to fork.

  • King of DBB

    Jesus.

    You know how that story when Peyton Manning took his sack out and put it on his female trainer’s head that made you think maybe he was a prick deep down? If not that “horseplay” then the PR firm he hired to smear her name and try and run her out of town?

    http://deadspin.com/how-tennessee-s-sexual-harassment-allegations-caught-up-1759118435

    That was one thing. Peyton is an asshole. Ok. Maybe the aw-shucks thing is an act, but he’s not in the same class as Rapey Ben.

    Well, now we got Eli committing felonies for petty cash? Is forging fake NFL memorabilia a felony or a misdemeanor? I don’t know who to buy in this story because it’s Chris Christie and this could all be bullshit – but here’s Eli taking camp helmets from the trainer and putting his Sharpie on them and selling them out the back door to memorabilia scumbags (I think it goes: heroin dealers, memorabilia sellers and human traffickers in descending order of scum) to hawk at their shops as game day helmets?

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/apr/14/chris-christie-eli-manning-liar-memorabilia-scheme-giants

    And there’s Christie, the fat ass, talking smack about the case and the opposing counsel. Whatta cunt. But if it’s true, does it put Eli out of running for Canton, and was he ever in the running?

    • MB30SD

      eli sucks balls… Christie is a fuck cunt. perfect for each other!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Never did like Eli.

      How much is enough Eli?

    • CanadaBear

      Nobody to root for in this story. Although I’m glad some memorabilia people got scammed. Fuck all that shit. The entire industry sucks moose wang. Although are the Mannings that fucking cheap? Fucking hell, how much has Eli made in his life and he has to fuck around with this penny ante bullshit? If he’s guilty, I hope they nail him. As far as Christie goes, I love the fact that he and that other sycophant Guilliani both sucked Trump’s balls constantly trying to get a job and neither one of them did.

  • King of DBB

    The 4-letter network goads Jay into retiring.
    http://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4705362/retirement-would-make-sense-for-jay-cutler

    How many articles like this get written? Most are like “he has one more good year left, blah blah”. This one is like, “Go. Please go. Seriously, you don’t need this and we don’t want you.”

    • madscout12

      Just needed to look at the author. JD fucking hates Cutty. Always has.

    • beninnorcal

      I hate that shitty network.

    • BerwynBomber

      Jay as an analyst could be interesting. If he does retire, hope he considers joining a booth or studio.

      • MB30SD

        I believe someone already mimed this. Gp maybe?

        Other analyst: “Jay, what’d you think of that play, it was amazing to see that DB make that break on the ball.”

        Cutler: (lights up another cig, takes a deep pull then turns his head and blows it up and to the side) “doooonnnn’t caaaaaaaare”

  • MB30SD

    One of the GMs with a top 10 pick does a mock: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/a-top-nfl-executive-with-a-top-10-pick-predicts-the-2017-nfl-draft/

    Lattimore second, go for that

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      Bucky Brooks on Marshon Lattimore top 5 pick – “Don’t do it.”

      Good draft discussion on this podcast. Lance Zierlein says Mahomes talk is all smoke.

      http://www.nfl.com/podcasts?id=f8dd25e3887bca0a50f5bd99ac54d804

      • Same points they make about the Jets apply to the Bears.

        QB. Don’t do it. Why give Bowles, possibly deadmad walking, a QB he won’t be able to groom next year cuz he’s fire?. And peeeaking into the next QB class…

        Jets might Suck for Sam

        • MB30SD

          Jets will def suck for Sam, because…. The Jets just suck.

          • MB30SD

            But yes, so do we

          • leftcoast dave

            I respectfully disagree. We are playoff bound.

          • MB30SD

            I like the Moxy… I’m waiting to see that we pick Adams or Thomas @3 instead of fucking mahomes.

            That will be a big step forward

          • leftcoast dave

            Soloman Thomas.

            Another BIG UGLY baby!!!!

          • MB30SD

            Wanna see my shocked face?

          • leftcoast dave

            Be da f’in Bears!!!

            Monsters of da Midway!!!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Just his name spells bust.

            There will never be a great quarterback called “Mahomes”.

            Sounds like an Irish guy speaking Ebonics.

            Probability of the video-game-numbers-winningest-stellar-ratings-guy doing better?

            Considerably higher.

            You don’t draft a dummy in the second because you don’t want to pick the winner in one. If San Fran don’t pull the trigger on Watson you sprint to the podium and thank the 8lb baby Jebus.

          • MB30SD

            I cain’t… I just cain’t

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            16-0

  • AlbertInTucson

    Has the Myles Garrett v Booger McFarland dust up been discussed?

    • CanadaBear

      ??????

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        It snot that big of a deal.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Garrett refused to go on “Mike &MIke” last week because of “critical” comments made by McFarland who said something along the lines of Garrett, like a lot of young players, needing to improve against the run and not “take plays off”.

        These comments were all part of an overall review of Garrett that STILL ended with McFarland saying he’d take Garrett as the #1 pick.

        Garrett’s reaction is a BAD look.

        • CanadaBear

          Wow. Sensitive to say the least. Although great athletes are definitely a breed apart. If he uses it for motivation more power to him. If he’s just being a prima donna … ugh.

  • leftcoast dave

    Da Bears have a 7-9 team now before the draft. Too many people are dismissing too many of the players picked up last year late as fa’s or even in the draft pushed into a critically injured secondary. Dey be yoots with more potential than given credit for.

    Now with the new additions through FA, the D is already MUCH improved, even before the draft. After the draft we will have what, two, maybe three more impact players? Last year, we drafted two standouts plus potential to “prove it” this year. If we get two more standouts and three or four (drafting higher) developmental players, this team will go 9-7 or better.

    The real story is the Big Uglies. For the first time in how many years, da Bears have an O line gelled and a D-7 better than its been in how many years? Now the secondary is at least amazingly adequate with FAs and second/third year players learning the game and ready to step up much more than last year, and finally, class in the backfield, a new QB with the ability to throw to multiple experienced targets and what do we get?

    Playoffs baby!!!!

    • BerwynBomber

      It is possible. The Cheese took a step back in FA, although Rodgers always gives them a puncher’s chance. MIN seemed to be a mess by the end of the year.

      DET, like us, seemed to improve a bit in FA but doubtful if they’re an SB contender.

      • leftcoast dave

        Where are we not much improved???

        A big arsed TE who hangs close as a release for the QB? Blocks and is a big target, ie., QB’s best friend?

        An experienced SS who was also a FS younger with the ability to OJT all da yutes and lead back there, something we did not have last year?

        CBs who can cover so much better than newbies or cripples?

        A receiving corp returning with three FAs who can compete and stretch the field? White perhaps being who he was supposed to be before those broken bones?

        It can only get better and how close were those many games before the stretchers decimated the lineup last year?

        Hell, even Bullard might show up in the DL. Depth in the DL in rotation will make a HUGE difference in ability to pressure QB’s and make the run stuff even better.

        Where are we not better off?????????????

        • BerwynBomber

          Mostly agree BUT Alshon and Trevathan could be missed.

          • leftcoast dave

            Tre was missed. Still might be and why S and CB is not as big a concern, IMHO as ILB. We got Quiz (aka, ‘ski’) in the fourth and he was amazingly adequate filling in as a rook.

            AJ? Who was AJ? That guy who sometimes graced us with his presence? That guy who QB’s threw to whether or not he was open because he was supposed to be able to go get it? Yea, sometimes he did. He was, just ask him, sooo special.

            Best to be rid of him to let players without his “special” tude play with heart.

          • MB30SD

            Bingo on the whole last part… Fuck that guy

        • Irish Sweetness

          DL.

          Bullard has no role in a grown ass 3-4 with his hand on the ground. Jenkins, I’ll give you that. He’ll be a load in the middle. Is Eddie Goldman a defensive end?

          I hope Pace doesn’t feel the pressure and draft one of the tweeners.

          You can have your franchise QB. The top RB. The top safety. Whatever.

          But draft the imagined second or third d-lineman and you might just screw the pooch.

        • willbest

          If you think our WR core on paper this year is better than it was last year this time on paper you are woefully mistaken. Same at ILB.

    • You trust Fox and Glennon to somehow beat the Packers?

      I don’t, esp Fox.

      Same story with the Packers. They’ve been getting worse every FA season for the past 10 years, yet somehow still win the division.

      Cargo is gone at least, so there’s that.

      • leftcoast dave

        So Rogers did what to da Bears last year with that miserable secondary?

        It’s better. Much better.

        So is the front seven.

        That matters, bigley.

        • I trust Pace to find talent.

          I don’t trust Fox to coach them up or know how to use them on gameday, esp vs quality teams.

          I’m not a downer by nature, and I’ll likely be full board once sep runs around, but as of right now, I need the draft to pump me up

          (Bears blow it up. Puke draft yet another WR).

          • leftcoast dave

            That won’t happen, but I agree that the wait is killin’.

            Glad they’re at least starting to practice!

          • leftcoast dave

            I think the closest he gets to a WR would be TE or . . . Christian McCaffery!!!!!

            That dude could turn out to be a Barry Sanders like pick, for the right team.

            And that ain’t da Bears!

        • BerwynBomber

          In GB2 last year we sold out against … the pass. We even generated decent pressure all day. I believe we sacked Rodgers four times.

          The problem was we made Ty Montgomery look like Barry Sanders. For a game. And yes Rodgers still hit the killer third and long against us.

          Then again, Matt Barkley put up 28 points and something like 370 yards against them. That’s the Cheese.

          • Jokey

            Wasn’t that the game Rodgers had a bad hammy? A couple of those sacks he normally runs away from.

          • CanadaBear

            He was crying about his hammy but I don’t think it was that bad. He still beat some of the Bears players to the sidelines on more than one occasion.

    • Johnnywad

      Lost me with the first sentence.

    • Ososfan

      We played without Goldman for like, the whole season and McPhee was a shell of himself last year, healthy guys plus the added experienced, Floyd should be sweet!

      • King of DBB

        McPhee.

        • Ososfan

          Hahaha that’s my phone’s auto correct. Smh!

  • leftcoast dave

    What? Emojie shit says what?

    Use your words, child!

    (ROTFLMAO)

  • Irish Sweetness

    Here’s how the draft could start … nightmare fashion.

    1. Garrett.
    2. WATSON.
    3. Now we’re fucked. Does Pace go “oops”, well I guess we’ll take Trubisky then …. or does he switch tack and draft Adams/Thomas etc…..?

    • MB30SD

      Dude WTF?!?

      Fucked?!??!? Gettin to pick between those two is a fucking dream my brother.

      I hope to god he doesn’t pull a fucking nightmare Emery and take a cuck reach QB @ 3. Jesus talk about career suicide huh?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Take a deep breath. Focus. Forget all the media soundbites.

        Rated 188, 156, 151 in his three starting seasons.

        90 TDs- 32 INTs.

        67% completions each season.

        What specifically about DeShaun Watson makes you think those numbers should be disregarded?

        • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

          1. Gimmicky offense on a team loaded with talent. That offense does not translate to NFL
          2. One-read, scripted plays delivered by the coach from the sideline
          3. No experience playing under center

    • Ososfan

      I don’t see the doomsday scenario. Thomas, Adams AND Howard still up for grabs

  • Irish Sweetness

    Better call Mike.

    That was the show.

    • MB30SD

      Watched my first ever episode of better call Saul last night.

      Even though I was hopelessly lost from a plot standpoint, it was still very…. Meh.

      • Bender McLugh

        hahah really? Slippin Jimmy trickin & slidin’, you didn’t like? Guess it’s not for everyone.

        • MB30SD

          Not that I didn’t like, just wasn’t blown away like I was expectin’.

          Prolly just all the hype and my own amazing imagination.

          • CanadaBear

            Last night was more MIke and moving the plot forward. You need to see an episode where Bob Odenkirk (Jimmy/Saul) is at his conniving best. It can be crazy funny.

          • MB30SD

            there was a lot of the creepy bald old guy and a gas cap?!

          • CanadaBear

            Mike is the shady detective and the gas cap had a tracking device in it, Not exactly riveting stuff.

          • MB30SD

            yeah, I almost fell asleep.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Was someone on here suggesting we draft Reuben Foster? To play safety? 6’0, 229. Mang.

  • Sahr Gborie

    https://twitter.com/AaronLemingNFL/status/854072982586576896
    Interesting 2 hear that Pat Mahomes was given the ability to not only
    change calls at the LOS but ran a more complex offense than advertised

    • MB30SD

      Not really

  • King of DBB

    More chum that Bears will swap with Cleveland and take Trub

    http://www.inquisitr.com/4150295/nfl-rumors-chicago-bears-eyeing-draft-day-trade/

    • SC Dave

      So much speculative trash out there.

      smfh

      • Johnnywad

        I think I’m ready to just go dark until the draft is over.

        • King of DBB

          It’s best.

          This whole thing is only really useful for documenting the sports journalists on the take.

          • MB30SD

            this whole theory and trade would be insanity. plain and simple.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet 18m18 minutes ago

    Players who should go much higher than expected: #Ashland TE Adam Sheehan, #Iowa QB CJ Beathard, #UConn S Obi Melifonwu, #UF LB Jarrad Davis

    • Ososfan

      Irish has been beating the CJ Beathard drum and dude looks legit (in his highlights though)

      • MB30SD

        It’s been leftcoastdave actually.

        Irish he been beating the (insert silly PSH here) drum

  • King of DBB
  • Sahr Gborie
    • King of DBB
    • MB30SD

      He’s just another jeff yo… not a gm or scout, just a random fan with a wordpress blog. keep that in mind erra time you link some other bears blog… on this bears blog

    • Irish Sweetness

      And for drafting a QB at 3 …

      “Howard at tight end is the other player I would take. Checks all the
      boxes and would be a terrific Bear. The reason I passed: He doesn’t
      throw the ball and that is at a premium in today’s NFL – No quality
      quarterback? No playoff wins.”

  • King of DBB

    Bellichek stacks pass catching RBs like a gun collector collects pistols.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000800718/article/patriots-extend-offer-sheet-to-bills-rb-mike-gillislee

    He’s got one for every type of down & distance.

  • Sahr Gborie

    http://sportsmockery.com/2017/04/the-5-rules-of-ryan-pace-1st-round-drafting-to-not-forget/

    Rule#1 – Exceptional Athlete
    Rule#2 – Productive
    Rule#3 – Clean Character Marks
    Rule#4 – Met The Team Privately
    Rule#5 – Fill A Need
    If this holds true, which player fits the bill?

    • SC Dave

      Looks Adams-like to me.

      As an aside, if McCaffrey somehow lasted to our second pick, would you take him?

      • Sahr Gborie

        No. In my estimation RB is not a position of need:3 draft picks are on the roster already. It will come down to Rulle#1, 2 & 5.

        Rule#1 – Exceptional Athlete
        J.Adams, S.Thomas, OJ.Howard

        Rule#2 – Productive
        S.Thomas

        Rule#5 – Fill A Need
        J.Adams & S.Thomas

        • MB30SD

          adams is #2 as well

          • Sahr Gborie

            we have J.Bullard so position of need wins: J.Adams

          • MB30SD

            yes

          • Sahr Gborie

            what if we get an offer similar to previous #3 trades?

            Raiders & Dolphins
            2013 first round pick (#12-D.J. Hayden), 2013 second round pick
            (#42-Menelik Watson) to Raiders for 2013 first round pick (#3-Dion
            Jordan) on 2013-04-25

            or

            Browns & Vikings
            2012 first round pick (#3-Trent Richardson) to Browns for 2012
            first round pick (#4-Matt Kalil), 2012 fourth round pick (#118-Jarius
            Wright), 2012 fifth round pick (#139-Robert Blanton), 2012 seventh round
            pick (#211-Scott Solomon) on 2012-04-26

            or

            49ers & Redskins
            Two 2000 first round picks (#12-Shaun Ellis) (#24-Ahmed Plummer)
            to 49ers for 2000 first round pick (#3-Chris Samuels) on 2000-04-17

          • MB30SD

            Two firsts for ours would take in a second… although #12 is a bit high. Prolly wouldn’t get any of our guys.

            On second thought… I might just stick with Adams @ 3

          • Sahr Gborie

            His leadership is what we are drafting. McPhee will be gone soon. We have long on Offense. J.Adams could be his equal on the Defense.

          • MB30SD
          • Irish Sweetness

            Is Adams more important than multiple players?

          • MB30SD

            adams is as sure as a sure thing can be in an NFL draft. Hits all the rules.

            * No injury concerns
            * Freakish athlete
            * Started most/all years (team Capt as a frosh!)
            * Went to a big school who played the biggest competition – nevermind DBU!
            * Team/locker room leader – see above
            * A smart playmaker with big work ethic
            * BPA AND @ a position of (dire) need

            …Who else fulfills all those?!?

            That and who knows what you get at 12 and 42 maings. You take the guy who can be your D rock and leader for 5-10 years and run to the bank… as fast as you can.

          • Irish Sweetness

            So is Leonard – a sure thing. Moreso. So what now? SS > RB?

            Suppose we draft Budda in 2 (or that is the plan). Is SS>RB now?

        • SC Dave

          I would take McCaffrey without hesitation with our second pick. But he won’t last that far, of course.

          • Sahr Gborie

            why when he is not a position of need?

          • CanadaBear

            But what about Carey and esp Langford! I wouldn’t be keen on RB at #36 but if he’s BPA, more power to ’em. Pace has earned the benefit of the doubt after last year’s draft. Hope he does even better this year.

        • Irish Sweetness

          It will be a position of desperation if/when Howard goes down.

          Short memories.

          • MB30SD

            You can’t have two #1s at erra position yo… Just cain’t. Especially when you have literally none in an entire dbackfield

          • Irish Sweetness

            You can have two #1 backs though.

            For many reasons (football, I don’t think about the cash), it makes sense to have two top backs rather than one.

            Do we need a safety? Sure. Draft one in the second, where they’re from.

            But passing up a future-legend RB to draft a strong Safety when we just signed Demps … it doesn’t even add up that way either.

            What’s worth more to us? That’s the question. If you’re drafting a safety in two, you can draft the dream in 1. Or Watson. See?

            3 is a tough spot.

          • MB30SD

            You’re ridiculous maings

        • Irish Sweetness

          Don’t they say BPA over need?

          Here’s the thing. The BPA at #3 in about three years time, might be rated bottom of the first round right now.

          If you’re drafting BPA, then I don’t see how a team bypasses Fournette after the first pick has been made.

          Howard’s good. Leonard’s better.

      • Ososfan

        I would. The need for TE would be less. McCaffrey,I believe will be a all pro weapon soon.

        • MB30SD

          smh

        • Sahr Gborie

          What the hell Oso! Fix the back end. The defense was good last year with half the players on injury reserve. Imagine how much better we will be with J.Adams back there when everyone is back health.

          • SC Dave

            You still don’t appear to have read what I wrote.

      • Nope. Still think Mixon is better than McCaffrey, even as a complementary back.

        And I remember the Panthers tying up their cap space on 2HBs (and a rather pricey FB) a few yrs back and going nowhere.

        Meanwhile, the Pats pick up UFAs and challenge for the SB every year.

        We have a solid HB. Just need to find that complement (maybe already on the roster).

        But more importantly, Birdcage must know how to deploy them.

        • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

          Watch out for Benny Cunningham. He will definitely bear Kadeem Carey. May even beat Langford for #2.

          • Yeah, Benny the Jet is exactly the type of HB I wanted to complement Howard.

            A younger more explosive “Quiz Rodgers who also can return.

            I think the Raiders and Falcons have the right idea when it comes to HBs. Get one who can ram, get another who can take a screen or return to the house.

            Sucks for FF, but that’s the future.

            Pats have been doing it for years.

          • Irish Sweetness

            May? Already has.

          • MB30SD

            I didn’t know you’ve already watched him in a preseason game?!?!

            (Hee hee)

          • Irish Sweetness

            Langford hasn’t got the moves, has he? Never a fan of his.

            If I was Al Davis, I’d enjoy drafting Leonard on draft day. All the nay-sayers in your ear “but you’ve got Marcus Allen!”…. I’d know – no matter what – that I could run the ball, and that I had made a solid pick, and that player was something special.

            Whoever drafts Leonard is getting a bargain.

    • MB30SD

      forgot #0 No injury concerns

      • Sahr Gborie

        thank you sir

        Immediately rule out: J.Allen, M.Lattimore & M.Hooker

        Rule#6 – Intangibles

    • BearDown100393

      Rule #-1 No Obscure Colleges

      • MB30SD

        Good one

  • King of DBB
    • MB30SD

      I like her without the burka… but that’s just me.

    • She can ali my akbar and rhami my dana any time!

      #coexist!

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Pics of Mike Glennon and other new Bears working out at Halas Hall. New RB Benny Cunningham looks ripped.

    http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/photo-gallery/Bears-kick-off-offseason-program/64ba8ac0-0e30-4507-9dd3-c76a6780b7b2

  • Sahr Gborie

    http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/21997/mel-kiper-take-myles-garrett-first-then-trade-up-for-mitchell-trubisky

    Article​ suggest Browns take Garrett #1 and trade with us for #3 to get Trubisky

    If they give us this haul:
    2017
    RD1 #12
    RD2 #52
    RD5 #181

    2018
    RD2 – 1 of their 3 picks in the 2nd Rd
    RD6 – Steele’s pick via Justin Gilbert trade

    Do we give up the 3 and pass on J.Adams and everything he represents?

    • MB30SD
      • Sahr Gborie

        My point exactly.
        Derek Barnett. Ruben Foster. OJ Howard. Kevin King. Marlon Humphrey. TJ Watt. M.Williams. T.Charlton. C.Robinson.

        • MB30SD

          no way howard makes it to 12 bru.

          Foster would be a great pick up, kid is a fucking heat seeking hell missile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPgiyYDKQe8

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s tiny though.

          • MB30SD

            hahahaha, tiny. come on dude.

            He’s an inch taller than wagner and 10 LBs lighter right now. Putting on 10lbs of man meat in an nfl off season is a cake walk.

            Check his fucking closing speed man. Kid is going to be a beast in the NFL. watch. He reminds me of a cross between wagner and burfict

          • Irish Sweetness

            Okay .. he’s about the size Mike Singletary was. But in a 3-4 what does he do?

          • MB30SD

            Watch Seattle’s defense next year and you’ll see…. He’s#54

    • Irish Sweetness

      In a heartbeat.

  • MB30SD

    wanna know what’s sad… even 5 years ago, I would have watched this with a little feeling of awe and excitment.

    http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/videos/Players-return-for-offseason-workouts/59cc4ced-d6bf-4438-9dd8-135f03170805

    Now, I was just like, ‘yeah right…. win once in a fucking while and you’ll get me with that bears nation awe shit’.

    The fall from historic greatness has been precipitous gents.

  • MB30SD
  • King of DBB

    Kind of a manic article that is all over the place

    http://bearswire.usatoday.com/2017/04/18/4-draft-day-scenarios-that-would-drive-bears-fans-crazy/5/

    The author can’t settle on one idea. But taking Foster at 3 would be controversial.

  • BuddhaJoe
  • Irish Sweetness

    Just back from interview and demo lesson.

    Crushed both, surprisingly. It would be a rarity for me to do either, but both …. was the hand of God upon me, as I had begged him to place it?

    Felt like it.

    I went to bed last night ho-hum not a care in this world. It was like the E-40 Yup-Nope video. Not a care in the world, with serious fucking financial meltdown about six feet in front of the windscreen … and all I can feel is “I’ll crush this. I’ve got this.” over and over in my head.

    Conor’s onto something.

    See it. Believe it. Do it.

    Crush it.

    Russell Watson – QB for the Chicago Bears – for Nike.

    • CanadaBear

      Hope you get it, my friend. My last job was as a gas pipeline controller. Best job I ever had and I felt the same way after the interview.

    • Sactowns#1

      Glad you rocked it Irish!! I’m sure you’ll get the gig.

  • Sactowns#1

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