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Da Saturday Scout: Isaiah Oliver, CB, Colorado

| November 11th, 2017

Player: Isaiah Oliver, CB, Colorado

Game: home vs. USC (#15), 3:00 PM CT


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What They’re Saying

  • From Luke Easterling at USA Today: “This 6-1, 195 pounder was tested early in the year, and opposing quarterbacks learned their lesson rather quickly. With 10 pass breakups and two interceptions through eight games in 2017, Oliver has shown off the length, physicality and athleticism NFL teams need from their top corners on the outside. He should be creeping into the first-round conversations slowly but surely.”
  • From Chris Trapasso at CBSSports.com, projecting Oliver to Pittsburgh with the 29th pick: “The Steelers like what they’ve gotten out of Joe Haden thus far in 2017 yet realize he’s not a long-term solution at the cornerback spot. Oliver can be. He’s a smooth athlete and has the track speed to stay with wideouts down the field. He has three interceptions and 22 pass breakups in his Colorado career.”
  • From Kyle Fredrickson in the Denver Post“I don’t see all the other corners all over the country and the way that people evaluate them, but I definitely think (Oliver) is a special talent, no doubt,” MacIntyre said. “He’s extremely bright, a great family, a sharp young man. To me, he’s the full package.”

I Think

I love this player. And Ryan Pace, who looks for athleticism above all other things, will get a kick out of seeing Oliver compete in the decathlon. Kid is an athletic freak and one hell of a corner.


Why Watch This Week

Because Oliver is facing USC’s Sam Darnold. Darnold is turning the ball over way too much in 2017 (11 picks) but he’s also completing passes at a 63.6% clip, with nearly 3,000 yards and 22 touchdowns already. This is going to be a prime opportunity to evaluate Oliver against a solid professional prospect who gives defensive backs a chance to make plays on the football.

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  • It’s all part of the plan

    Doesn’t it get a little frustrating to see top NFL talent consistently get picked in the late first round and early second and we always seem to fuck it up with top picks?

    • CanadaBear

      Floyd looks good. Fuller is playing really well (finally). Long is great when he’s healthy (I know, I know). MT looks like he has the goods (let’s hope). The only real stinker in the last few years was KW and no matter what people say nobody could have predicted his journey in the NFL at this stage. Shaheen doesn’t look great but let’s see what he does now that Zach is down.

      • Bender McLugh

        Shaheen will be good

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          I think he will two. But I don’t think we’ll really start to see it until next season.

          • Bender McLugh

            Hope not, this is a good match up for him too, Wheaton & Inman will stretch the field & Shaheen should be able to take advantage

          • Brown will be the one taking Miller’s snaps and being the main pass target at TE, at least if they continue how they did it after Miller went down in week 8.

          • Bender McLugh

            Agreed, I think they’ll both have their opportunities this game

        • Cockney Kirk

          If Shaheen will be good, some fucking indication of that would be nice.

          • Bender McLugh

            Absolutely, he hasn’t shown dick yet

        • BearDown100393

          Maybe as an Argonaut.

      • BearDown100393

        Long was great.

        There fixed that for you.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      Yeah, but let’s not blend Angelo and Emery’s failures into Pace’s early going.

      Pace has put together enough talent in short order to feel good about him going forward.

      The Kevin White injuries are skewing things dramatically. If he’s healthy and productive, the whole thing looks different.

      What’s been impressive to me is finding stars like Jordan Howard and potential stars like Jackson in the later rounds.

      • CanadaBear

        Not saying Pace is great but he certainly is a step up from the last two guys. He’s definitely missed a few times in FA but at least he tries to address problem areas before the draft so he’s not so locked in on one position.

        • BearDown100393

          This reminds me of the cleaned car scene before Mr. Wolf issues a statement of caution.

      • Bender McLugh

        This 1000%

      • Pace so far looks to be 1/2 on 1st round picks (we’ll reserve judgment on Trubisky) and 2/3 in the 2nd round (though you could easily say 2/2 and reserve judgment on Shaheen).

        He’s also found 1 quality starter in the 4th-5th round every year (Amos, Howard, Jackson). And 2 quality starters (Cam + Callahan) through 3 years of UDFA (other UDFAs still around include RRH, LeBlanc, and Gentry, we’ll see what any of them might become).

        Nobody bats 1.000 in the draft. Pace has hit on plenty of talent through three years to make me say he’s doing a good job there. FA is a different story (outside of Hicks and Amukamara), but at least he hasn’t done any huge long-term deals to screw them over.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          I’d agree. I was curious how his “batting average” stacks up to other GMs in the early part of their career.

          Glennon and Barth are two GIANT whiffs. But both are easily cut.

          And I’m curious going forward if his strategy will remain signing the FA types he has been, so as not to hamstring the team while he builds over time through the draft. Or, is he getting a foundation in place that he doesn’t mind paying Blue Chippers to boost the roster with.

      • BearDown100393

        Fox and Birdcage could not even recognize Jordan Howard’s potential.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          Yeah. Too bad he didn’t get his chance huh?

          • BearDown100393

            Only because of injuries “ahead” of him on the “depth” chart.

            Fox is a tool.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Impossible to say how the season would have unfolded.

            Fox has made enough mistakes to be roundly criticized. I will welcome a new coach whenever the hire is made. But he’s not as bad as you make him out to be.

            It’s not at all uncommon for a rook to need a few games. Nobody expected Howard to be that good. Not even you.

            Fox has helped build an excellent defense and has a pretty damn good running game going despite shuffling the offensive line every week.

            So say what you will, the progress on this rebuild is evident. And he’s been in charge of that progress.

            Looking ahead, I’d prefer somebody younger and aggressive. For now, we ride with Fox and see how the second half of the season unfolds.

          • BearDown100393

            I really have hard time believing Fangio is actually subordinate to Fox. I just don’t buy it. This reeks of Ditka – Ryan without the …… oh you know…. winning a lot of games and a Super Bowl.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            And Hall of Famers all over the place.

          • BearDown100393

            Yeah that also

            Hicks would have fit in. That’s about it.

        • CanadaBear

          Howard has said numerous times he was not in NFL condition when the season started.

    • madscout12

      You gotta wonder if it just that the teams and coaching in the spots where those players land is just that much better. Kizer is a very extreme example of this. No way to treat a rookie QB.

      I think the big mess up this year is Shaheen. If you go Trubs with 1, you can’t go project with 2, and they did. Kid felt like a reach in the 2nd and he can’t contribute this year…when you needed offensive weapons for a bad QB and a rook.

      • BearDown100393

        Shaheen wouldn’t even make a CFL roster.

  • CanadaBear

    I just found out what Erin means to the sports programmers in Canada. I can’t remember the last time the Beloved/Fudgies game wasn’t on free TV. Tomorrow, not so much. FUCK!

  • CanadaBear
    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      Wonder if he plays any linebacker. Sounds like a good solid hit. Let’s bring him in a get a look.

      • CanadaBear

        That’s gonna cost him some serious cash. I don’t think he quite has the hang of stage diving.

    • Sactowns#1

      Fa la la la la , la la law suit.

  • Bender McLugh

    Add Wheaton & Inman, subtract Gentry. I like how this is shaping up

    • willbest

      Wheaton hasn’t done shit in a bears uniform.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        Neither has Inman.

        • willbest

          He just got here though.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            So did Wheaton. Unless you’re counting two games with Glennon as actual football games and a half a game in Trubisky’s first start.

          • willbest

            I am. Because he was here for all of training camp, and had plenty of time to work with both QBs

          • willbest

            And yes I am aware that he injured himself, but dude has done nothing.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Neither has Inman. He has two catches this year. They’re both #2 guys at the most. Probably #3’s.

            But I’ll be damn glad to have them both on the field tomorrow. They’re both professional wide receivers. Something lacking in these parts of late.

      • BearDown100393

        That is actually a plus. No drops right?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Well SHIT! My Gentry jersey just showed up yesterday. SMH!

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        Dude, Braverman is gonna be soooo pissed when he brings your pizza tonight.

        • BearDown100393

          Manning hired him.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          I really don’t appreciate you guys joking about BRAVERMAN. It’s not his fault that the Bears or any other team for that matter didn’t see his greatness.

  • Bender McLugh

    “Anybody we give a uniform on game day, we expect them to do their job and do it at a high level” – Fox

    • Bender McLugh

      That’s some coachin

    • BearDown100393

      Giraffe is still a Bear.

      • Bender McLugh

        Good backup yuup

  • It’s all part of the plan

    haha, you can’t make this up. There are two 14yr old black kids who have committed 4 armed robberies and a car jacking this morning in my hood….and they did it all before 830am you lazy motherfuckers.

    Ben Franklin was spot on.

    I’m predicting the next Chicago protest is when one of us fucking guns down some kid trying to stick us up while we’re coming back from Dunkin Donuts. One of the guys that they tried to rob was in his car in his driveway and the victim actually tried to attack the kid by knocking him down with the car door.

    GP knows, there are some hardcore dads in this neighborhood. I would not want to come at some of these meatballs and miss.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      Yep. It’s gonna happen. Surprised it isn’t already a common occurrence.

      I live in a pretty small community just off 94 in SW Michigan. In the last week, a cop pulled over a car that had been flagged as stolen on an APB. Driver tries to run the cop over, smashes into the squad car. As they go to take off, cop shoots the driver. They drive a short distance and the two passengers take off on foot.

      One of them ends up at the High School about a mile away from the scene. School’s already on lockdown because of the nearby shooting, but they’re letting a handful of students in that have arrived late and are waiting to get in due to the lockdown. The runner tries to blend in with the kids and actually gets about ten feet in the school before the safety officer inside, notifies the cop outside, who proceeds to immediately arrest her.

      No guns on hand. But what happens if they had guns? God only knows.

      But I can tell you that two guys I know immediately headed to the school completely fucking strapped, locked and loaded. I’m not sure I even blame them. We all have kids in the building. But think how far out of control that could have gotten in a blink.

      Worlds getting scarier by the second.

      • SC Dave

        Yikes. Hope you and yours stay safe.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          Thanks Dave. And yes, we’re all good. They were never in danger, but it’s crazy to think how close that edge is and you can’t even see it.

    • Cockney Kirk
    • willbest
      • Wouldn’t some sorta sword that slices off chins be cheaper?

        Either way, I imagine those windows are bullet proof in case the car jacker gets a shot off.

    • This happened to my friend.

      A robber came into the store with a gun. He was just mulling around, then, when it was empty, he goes up to my friend who works there, points the gun, tells him to lock the door.

      So he does.

      The robber then tells him open up the safe.

      “I can’t. Only the manager has the combo for it”

      “Where’s the manager?”

      “He’s at lunch.”

      “When is he going to be back?”

      “In about 30 mins.

      So, the robber WAITS.

      Seems awkward but to kill time, they start chit-chatting

      Manager comes. They open the door. Robber points gun at manager, safe.

      Robber gets safe. Maybe like $400.

      Robber leaves.

      Now get this. He robbed FOUR more places afterwards.

      He got caught eventually robbing a 7-11 or something.

      Maybe he needed a slurpee.

      Cops see footage. Get suspicious that my friend is IN on it cuz they were talking for like 30 mins.

      Friend, “I don’t know that dude. He had a gun at me. What am I suppose to do – not talk?”

      Cop, “Oh yeah, what were you guys talking about?”

      Friend, “Mostly the Raiders”

    • Cormonster

      Gotta watch out for them youngsters, they can be really dangerous. Reading news stories, some of them got 30-50 arrests under their belts and they can’t even legally drive yet.

      The brother of my Dad’s friend Dallas got shot and killed by a 12 year old back in the early 80’s at an L station. The kid wanted some money, and when the guy scolded him, the kid shot and killed him.

      Funny side story. My Dad’s buddy Dallas (Dalla’) spoke what I would consider Jive, and he was hard to understand. My Mom, who’s from Upper Michigan, couldn’t understand him when he came over for dinner or drinks… and he couldn’t understand her. So my Dad would have to interpret all of their conversations!

  • willbest

    Is anybody else curious how Amazon is able to deliver $35 worth of goods to your door, “free”, within 6 hours without employing slave labor?

    • Slave labor would be the most “efficient”

      • BearDown100393

        – Roger Goodell
        Owners Meeting prior to CBA negotiations

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      I think it’s because they know what you’re going to buy before you do, at least based on my Facebook feed.

    • madscout12

      Because it isn’t actually $35 worth of goods to them.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      economy of scale. Amazon’s shipping costs are over $7 billion a year. Amazon has very large contracts with delivery companies. So they can negotiate spending pennies on the dollar compared to the average citizen to ship things. Same day delivery companies are willing to take less profits in order to have guaranteed work and money. As long as volume is there Amazon is making money.

      I actually find it more interesting that Amazon has gotten the US mail to deliver on Sundays.

  • Bender McLugh

    I love the Color of Money, top 10 all time

    • BearDown100393

      Newman makes the movie gold.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      my favorite color is yellow.

      • Bender McLugh

        Mid life crisis yellow

  • The TLDR Silva breakdown, which often reveals good trends and data even if ur not in FF.

    Green Bay @ Chicago
    Team Totals: Bears 22, Packers 16

    Mitchell Trubisky’s fantasy results through four starts are QB24 > QB23 > QB29 > QB21, producing at a fringe two-quarterback-league level and showing no ability to exploit advantageous matchups with one of the NFL’s poorest pass-catcher corps, which lost top threat Zach Miller (broken leg) before Chicago’s Week 9 bye. … Coming off the open date, Jordan Howard is a fresh-legged home favorite against the Packers, who rank 11th in run-defense DVOA but have yielded the NFL’s third-most touchdowns (9) to running backs. Howard has averaged 25.2 touches over his last six games and is primed for monster usage. Howard plus the Bears’ D/ST is one of my favorite DFS correlation plays of Week 10. … Tarik Cohen’s weekly touch counts have been all over the place in Trubisky’s starts (7 > 15 > 1 > 5), while Green Bay surrenders the NFL’s tenth-fewest receiving yards (306) to backs. Cohen is a low-floor, PPR-specific flex option. … Slot receiver Kendall Wright has not cleared 50 yards or scored a touchdown in any of Trubisky’s four starts. … Tre McBride would be the best dart throw among Bears perimeter wideouts after dropping a 3/92/0 receiving line on five targets in Chicago’s pre-bye loss to New Orleans. McBride went catch-less in each of his prior two games, of course. … Dion Sims has blocked on 71% of his snaps as a Bear, but he is worth a long-shot streamer mention following the loss of Miller, who was leading Chicago in targets with Trubisky under center. The Packers have allowed the NFL’s fewest fantasy points to tight ends, although they will be without SS Morgan Burnett (groin) in Week 10.

    Three straight appearances by Brett Hundley strongly suggest Hundley’s fantasy viability will be largely tied to rushing production, worrisome against a Bears defense yielding the NFL’s 12th-fewest rushing yards to quarterbacks (89). Sack and turnover prone and seemingly terrified in the pocket, Hundley is also an inviting streamer target for Chicago’s defense, which ranks ninth in sacks (23) and has held 6-of-8 quarterbacks faced to fantasy results of QB16 or worse. The Bears’ D/ST outlook is enhanced by Packers RT Bryan Bulaga’s year-ending ACL tear. … Negative game script threw a major wrench into Green Bay’s Week 9 running-game distribution, but it was nevertheless highly concerning that Aaron Jones logged just seven touches on 34% of the snaps, Ty Montgomery reemerged for six touches on 41% of the downs, and Jamaal Williams vultured a late goal-line score. We will have to resume evaluating this backfield on a week-by-week basis while considering both Jones and Montgomery high-risk flex plays with uncertain roles on a low-scoring team. The Bears have limited enemy running backs to 3.85 yards per carry and are allowing the league’s eighth-fewest receiving yards (306) to the position.

    Hundley’s 2017 target distribution: Davante Adams 25; Jordy Nelson 20; Jones 14; Randall Cobb 12; Montgomery 6; Geronimo Allison and Martellus Bennett 4; Lance Kendricks 3. … Despite leading the team in targets with Hundley at quarterback, Adams has devolved into a volatile WR3 with stat lines of 2/12/0 > 7/53/0 in Hundley’s starts. In Week 10, Adams will mainly run routes at sturdy Bears RCB Prince Amukamara, who played a leading role in containing Kelvin Benjamin (3/65/0), Mike Wallace (3/30/0), and Michael Thomas (7/77/0) in Chicago’s last three games. … Nelson’s receiving lines in Hundley’s starts are 1/13/0 > 4/35/0. Because his value was so tied to an on-field mind-meld with Aaron Rodgers, Jordy’s outlook hit the gutter with the quarterback change. … Cobb’s numbers in Hundley’s starts are 2/15/0 > 5/58/0 on target counts of 4 and 5. Cobb is a fade against underrated Bears slot corner Bryce Callahan. … As Bennett was released and Kendricks isn’t very good, Packers tight ends should be avoided against a Chicago defense allowing the 11th-fewest fantasy points to the position.

    Score Prediction: Bears 20, Packers 10

    • BearDown100393

      Real possibility that neither offense scores a point tomorrow.

  • BearDown100393

    Grimace probably hanging out in Kenosha tonight. Triple downing on brats. All sweaty and greasy with the realization that he is about to be thoroughly exposed as a piss poor HC tomorrow. Pondering the net worth of that pig trap and wondering if he can buy in now while his name still means something in WI.

  • So much for “lock” 2018 QBs

    Darnold with 7 lost fumbles and 11 INTs already.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      there has been several reports that he is going to stay in college another year

      • That would be smart.

        Don’t want to get Barkley-ed

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          He probably does not want to be drafted by the Browns.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            He doesn’t. I read somewhere, rumors earlier this year were that he’d stay in if the Browns were picking first.

          • haha oh browns…

            The 9ers might earn the #1 pick. Or the Gmen (they play ea other this week)

            9ers almost certainly would trade the pick with Jimmy G on board (though, who knows)

            Gmen would draft a QB

            I wonder if Darnold would enter the draft if the Gmen get the #1 pick.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Either way, I think Darnold can stop worrying about it. Can’t see him going that high given the TOs he’s putting up this year. Started early in the year.

            He should be more worried about becoming the next Matt Leinart. That dude would have been hands down first pick. But he stayed in school another year. Darnold was too young last year, but nonetheless, he would have been the first pick had he been able to come out. Now, who knows where he goes.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I think you mean Matt Barkley, not Matt Leinart. Leinart was still a 1st round pick, Barkley got injured his senior year and went in the 4th round

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            No. I mean Leinart. Had he left USC in 04 with the Heisman and back to back national championships, he would have absolutely been the overall first pick in the draft. But he didn’t. He went back with the stated goal of a 3peat. But his draft stock slipped a little and Vince Young got in the way of the third title. So he was drafted like 10th overall. And that was at a time when the #1 overall pick was guaranteed insane amounts of money. As it was, he made a lot of money. But he likely cost himself 10’s of millions by playing the last year of college ball.

  • Catching up on a lil college football.

    Notre Dame is 8-1?

    Da heck.

    Didn’t really see much of Isiah Oliver in that SC game. Only caught 2nd half though.

    TCU-v-OK looks enticing.

    • I think OU has a better kicker than us.

      Just made a 49er on primetime with about 10 yds to spare.

      Put him on the list, Andy!

    • OU QB Mayfield looks good. 69% comp vs blitz.

      Solid arm. Nice touch. Awareness.

      • SC Dave

        I watched Mayfield last week too. Kid looks good.

      • Cormonster

        I think he had the highest QB rating ever last year (beating Russell Wilson and RG3).

        • Didn’t even know who he was till tonight. Took me about 2 drives to recognize he was good. Did some digging, apparently, he’s the Heisman Trophy fav. Goes to show how much I keep up with college! lol

          But just the way he carried himself. Some of those throws. Just perfect. NFL type. Knew when to lazer it, when to drop it soft, small windows, low and away, or high where only his dude could get it.

          I saw one where he threw it against his body and hit the WR in stride by the sideline. Amazing.

          Tough too. That hit looked like a snapped his knee/ankle.

          He’s “only” 6’1, but don’t think that’ll be much of an issue post-Wilson/Brees.

          But apparently some scouts think he’s a 3rd rder.
          Maybe arm? size?

          He falls that far, I’d snap him up in ny min.

          Hey, was that HB you told me to check out?

          Freshman from Wisc I think

          • Cormonster

            Jonathan Taylor from Wisconsin. True freshman who rushed for 160 something today against a good Iowa defense. He’s 3rd in the country in rushing, and he didn’t even start 3 games. His one weakness so far is too many fumbles, usually trying to get those extra couple yards. I think he only has like 25 carries in the 4th quarter this year because WI usually have a big lead by then. He’s considered one of the top 5 Heisman candidates, but that award is going to Mayfield. I thought Mayfield would win it before the season started. I guess you really don’t follow college ball!

            College football can be strange sometimes. Last week Iowa put up a 50 burger against a good Ohio State defense, rushing and throwing for about 250 each. Today against Wisconsin, they had 66 total yards of offense and turned it over 3 times. Wisconsin defense just totally dominated them the whole game. They only had 5 first downs, and only ran 2 plays past the 50 the whole game. They were 0-13 on 3rd down conversions. Iowa’s only 2 scores were on pick 6’s.

            Wisconsin’s defense is fun to watch. They are top 5 in almost every category – yards against, points, turnovers, sacks. They’ve had a ton of injuries, but the next guys up keep playing really well. They may not have the best athletes, but they play really smart, fundamental football and swarm to the ball.

          • Oh, yeah, I heard his name when they were discussing the Heisman, and I thought “that’s the guy Corm was talking about I think”

            I was surprised cuz it’s rather rare they truly consider true freshman. They usu give it to those who’ve ‘paid their dues’.

            And sure enough, they said Mayfield prolly clinched it tonight.

            Any good Olinemen or LBs from Wisc?

            I know they produce good products there.

            Or is it just sorta a no-name team outside Taylor?

          • Cormonster

            They have a good, young o-line. I think there is only one upper classman. They got some pretty athletic guards and center who do a lot of pulling. The freshman center is really good and very athletic – he had some greatt blocks while pulling today, including a pancake on a 25 yard TD run.

            There’s no one on the defense I would consider a star. A couple guys might be pro worthy on d-line and LB, but I doubt any will be really high picks. The best LB is out for the year, along with best WR.

            They seem to have an endless supply of athletic LB’s. Here’s what they do: they find the best athletes at a lot of schools, usually QB’s, who’s game won’t translate to the next level. So they get those guys to come to WI and develop them as LB’s. Since they have the QB experience, they are usually really good at reading the play and reacting quickly. They all seem to be very disciplined at knowing their assignments and acting aggressively to make the play.

            A few years ago I remember telling you about a LB Joe Schoebert. He ended up going to Cleveland in 3-4 round. I seen he’s like 3rd in tackles this year. Not sure that makes him good, but he’s making a lot of tackles.

    • AlbertInTucson

      ND won’t be 8-1 after tonight. The are getting boat-raced by Miami.

  • WP4Life

    Watched Auburn beat Georgia.
    Now if Mississippi State can hold of Alabama

    • SC Dave

      Wasn’t even close. Auburn destroyed them.

      SEC is the big 1, other 11.

      I imagine Alabama wins. Though I hope not.

  • SC Dave

    Love the turnover chain at Miami. Bears oughta get one

    • madscout12

      The NFL would figure out how to fine them for it. Also, something you do when you don’t pay your players…”in lieu of the millions of dollars we get from your labor, here’s a plastic chain!”

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      Daquan Barkley #2?

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