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Camp Battle to Watch: Carey v. Langford

| July 12th, 2017

Forgotten since the emergence of Jordan Howard, Jeremy Langford and Ka’Deem Carey could be battling for an important roster spot.

As great as Jordan Howard was last year, he had to leave a number of games with various bumps and bruises. He also missed a lot of time in his one season at Indiana. Neither of these things are surprising when you consider his violent running style. The Bears need a backup who can fill in for a series. They need a backup who can fill in for a game. I’m not sure they have one who can do both.

That’s where this dilemma begins.

If it is simply about picking the best all around running back, Langford would be the pick. He has dangerous speed, makes plays in the passing game and has regularly shown the ability to make gains in short-yardage situations. But Langford is a bit of a boom-or-bust runner and he’s had tough time simply moving the chains.

While his rookie season was largely viewed as a success, Langford averaged just 2.7 yards per carry in the first quarter and 3.5 in his first 10 attempts of the game. He improved the more he touched the ball, with a 4.0 clip on attempts 11-20.

Last year, Langford struggled. While the offensive line’s struggles can be partially blamed for his early issue, he had zero impact after returning from injury when that line had hit its stride. The Bears tried to get him involved late in the season, but he managed just 45 yards on 17 carries against Washington and Minnesota. (He did add 41 yards on three catches against the Vikings.)

Carey has been the opposite of Langford. In 2014 he averaged 4.5 yards per carry in his first 10 carries. Two years ago he was at 4.0. Last year he finished at 3.9. While he doesn’t have speed, he has a good burst and runs with power.

If the Bears want someone to spell Howard, Carey seems to be a better fit.  But he’s never shown he can handle a starting load, having never touched the ball more than 14 times in a game. He also doesn’t add much to the team as a receiver and his lack of speed limits the plays the team can run with him.

In an ideal world, the Bears would keep both and John Fox has been known to keep four running backs. But the Bears kept three last year and there might not be room for more.  The Bears kept just two quarterbacks and three tight ends last year, both of those numbers could increase this year. It would be a major shock if they didn’t keep three quarterbacks. It’s hard to see them keeping fewer than six wide receivers or eight offensive linemen.

As the Bears prepare for camp, both Langford and Carey are on the bubble.  Those spots usually come down to special teams, but, in this case, the player is also the primary backup running back because Tarik Cohen is a specialty player. Cohen will have a significant role in this offense but the Bears don’t envision him EVER carrying the ball 20 times on a Sunday. Perhaps the ability to catch passes out of the backfield would make Langford a capable fill-in for Cohen as well, therefore giving him the edge over Carey. But Carey is just a much more natural ball carrier with better vision and tackle-breaking ability.

If all goes well, the backup job won’t end up being that important. Howard took over 66 percent of the team’s carries last year and, ideally, he’ll have even more in 2017. But Howard does have a history of injuries and, let’s be honest, things tend not to go well when it comes to the Bears, especially when it comes to injuries (knock on wood). The player Fox chooses to back up Howard could end up being important. He chose wrong last year, keeping both over Jacquizz Rodgers.

Strong arguments could be made for keeping both players, which is why it will be interesting to see them compete in training camp.

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  • Irish Sweetness

    Rather watch Fournette and Howard get ready for the season of destiny … but whatevs.

    Aren’t we cutting C&L at the end of camp?

    • Joecashflow

      Haha we have the advantage of times zones on early posters, eh Irish?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Where are you Joe?

        • Joecashflow

          Phuket until Oct, when we go to see the Beloved play in New Orleans.

          • Johnnywad

            I love that that’s the real name of a real place.

          • Phuket, Thailand?

          • Irish Sweetness

            That’s right, I knew somebody was down there!

  • Joecashflow

    Slow off-season so……Bears are gonna win the SB because this guy says so. Like his passion. https://youtu.be/L_spaagyzA0 And the QB WHISPERER has a new book out. No, not that one. The one that should be our coach and we should have had several playoff appearances in last 5 years. Guys name is Arians. Remember him ? Bear down Bears! By the way, I like the premise that the only way we win the SB is that Mr. Biscuit takes us there. Makes it believable. A fairy tale but a nice one.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He’s doing it for every team I think. In fact he bails out near the start by saying that.

      Watching Bayless and Sharpe go at it over whether or not the Bears win 4 SBs with Cutler was painful. See that? I’d have settled for Mac!

      • Joecashflow

        Can’t stand Bayless. All hype for ratings. But Bears are building some and acquiring some talent. If we can find some leadership to pull it together, who knows this year. It all starts with Falcons win.

  • King of DBB

    Clay Matthews says he hopes the new QB is as inept as Jay was because he loves to pad his stats against the Bears

    • CanadaBear

      CM is basically a shadow of his former self. He was never a tackling machine but last year in 12 games he had 20 tackles and 4 assists with 5 sacks. #54 had that many tackles in that AZ game years ago (Denny Green’s water shed moment).

      • willbest

        I thought he was moved to ILB, at which point 20 tackles is embarrassing.

        • CanadaBear

          I thought he was back outside last year but I’m hardly a Fudgie expert. 20 tackles is pretty embarrassing no matter which position he played. The last few times I’ve seen them play both CM and Peppers looked way past their expiration dates with a splash play once in a while. The splash plays were enough to get the announcers foaming even though they did next to nothing all the rest of the game.

          • King of DBB

            Agreed. Julius has no more gas and Clay’s injuries caught up with him.

            Considering he has 20 pounds of roid tissue, and is naturally too small to be a linebacker, it was just a matter of time before the NFL wore him out.

          • CanadaBear

            100%. But that hair … sigh.

          • BearDown100393

            Campbell’s Soup along with Head N’ Shoulders (toss in Madden) have a Ted McGinley impact on NFL careers.

          • King of DBB
          • More wear and tear at the ILB than the Rush, which broke down Matthew’s roided body more.

            Lach was just naturally bigger. 6’4 240ish, and towards the end, he looked closer to 260 than 240.

      • BerwynBomber

        Agreed. O’s still have to account for him but once looked like an HoF career will probably be the GB HoF instead. Or to put it in our perspective he will end up with a Briggs-like career.

        • CanadaBear

          Honestly, I’d take Lance over him. CM has a lot of sacks but that’s about it. Granted Briggs career was longer (so far) but look at some of the totals (LB/CM);
          tackles/assists=1173/396, sacks 15/72.5, passes def 78/38, INT’s 16/6, forced fum 19/13.

          • BerwynBomber

            Wow. I had no idea. Briggs had 86 PDs in his career. That’s insane. If you would have asked me w/out looking at the #s I would have guessed CM had been the better pass defender.

            But yeah, I would lean LB too (although the sack differential is huge and some of those are damn near minor turnovers). Even as Bears fans we forget how fucking good Briggs was, mainly because of Lach’s greatness, the universal Peanut love (overdone IMV), and the perception that Briggs dogged it at the end. But what a fantastic player.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            perception?

          • Briggs was perfect for that system.
            The Lovie-2 funneled toward the WLB, and it’s easy to wrack up stats in that position (one of the reasons why Briggs will never get into the HOF), but Briggs didn’t just collect stats; he made impact plays, I guess just not enough of them for the HOF?

            Be interesting to compare Derrick Brooks to Briggs.

          • CanadaBear

            He brought the wood. Way more than Lach ever did. Not to mention he’s funny as hell. The Lance Briggs show on CSN was fairly amusing.

          • CanadaBear

            I loved Briggs. That last game of the season against the Fudge where he had been out about 6-8 weeks and got activated was hideous. He must have been at least 280. His last 2 years he was dinged up. The last year he was done. Same with Lach. I never hold it against an athlete if they stay 1 year too long. Like the old saying goes, the league will tell you when you’re done. Because of him being so out of shape for a critical game (I’m sure he never thought he was going to get activated), his last year being so-so and a few interesting comments over the years. a lot of guys on here don’t give him the respect he deserves. Oh well, different strokes. He’ll always be a fave just for that hit on Megatron.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Stayed too long.”

            Easy to say.

            Johnny Unitas. Joe Namath. Willie Mays.

            They all “Stayed too long at the fair.”.

            On the other hand, I KNOW that in their place, they would have had to drag ME away kicking and screaming to give up the money, the comradeship and the adulation that went with it.

            Hell, I played organized softball ’til I was 60 even though I paid to play, because I didn’t want to give up the game and my softball buddies, and despite the fact that my once-upon-a-time decent skills as a player had deteriorated to occassionally comic levels.

          • CanadaBear

            Me too! I gave up slow pitch softball due to slow reaction time. I pitched and one of my last games a giant hit a screamer that was so close to my ear I could hear it. My reaction time was too slow and it was past me before I could lay a glove on it. I took that as a msg and hung it up at the end of that season. I was never a good enough hitter to play any other position.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Yes, the fear of getting injured finally overtook the joy of playing.

            They didn’t have enough teams for and “Over 50” league, which is what comprised most of our roster, so we were still playing against teams of 20 and 30 year olds.

            I decided to jump before Mother Nature gave me a push by snapping an achilles or having a knee “pop”, etc.

            The injuries are one thing. The re-hab is a bitch.

            As for come-backers, the league I was in moved to cut down on them. This was 12″ slo-pitch. They put a line on both sides of the mound. If you hit anything low thru the pitcher’s box, between the 2 lines, the batter was out and the inning was over.

          • CanadaBear

            I originally screwed up one of my knees playing. Sliding into 2nd base and my spikes caught and I kneed myself in the ear. Stunned me. Got water on the knee with that one! The rule in your league would have been little comfort if that line drive had been about 6″ to the right. Couldn’t imagine playing against youngsters when you were in your 50’s. Sure was fun at the time!

        • Johnnywad

          Just once, I want to see him tackled by that greasy, carni, Tilt A Whirl operator, hair of his. I’d be willing to sacrifice a Bears possession to pay for it. Kyle Long pulling him to the ground by just the hair.

          It’s on my bucket list.

      • Bender McLugh

        he’ll still play as dirty as ever, the jack

    • BearDown100393

      Says the guy in the closet with his home insured quarterback

  • evantonio

    Cormonster: you still here? under a new name? pigeons playing ping pong have announced their national tour and i wanted to share with you. but i don’t see you.

    • CanadaBear

      Cor just stops in every once in a while. If you want I can send him an E-mail or FB msg.

      • evantonio

        yeah man. can you point him to http://pigeonsplayingpingpong.com/tour-dates/

        he said he wanted to check these guys out if they swung by his area.

        • CanadaBear

          Sure. He definitely is a music man!

          Done!

        • Bender McLugh

          nice ev, good stuff so far, listening on Spotify to their new one, Pleasure

          • evantonio

            awesome! didn’t know you were into the jam scene. they have some HD shows on YouTube. worth checking out – they have a pretty sweet light setup and their lead singer really knows how to work the crowd.

          • Bender McLugh

            they have a Spin Doctors vibe & feel, but modern. good stuff

          • Irish Sweetness

            The Spin Doctors. Have not heard that band in a LONG time.

    • Cormonster

      Thanks for the heads up. Canada let me know about the show. I am looking into it already. It’s at one of my favorite live venues and not too far away. Just have to look into my schedule and see if it works out. I would love to see them.

      • evantonio

        awesome. hope it works out. they’re super fun live.

        i’d equate them to a jonathan quinn led offensive drive. except the complete opposite.

  • willbest

    Somebody in Oakland keeps setting fire to apartment construction sites.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/arson-investigators-search-for-motive-of-california-fires/2017/07/11/84e883ce-6682-11e7-94ab-5b1f0ff459df_story.html

    If it were San Fran my money would be on environmentalists. But given that it is Oakland, I am thinking its working class minorities that don’t want to be gentrified. I am actually quite sympathetic to not wanting your home and community destroyed even if you receive reasonable compensation. The problem in cities however is the city is desperate for money, and one little neighborhood doesn’t have a voice so the city council which is composed of mostly people that represent other neighborhood’s interest vote to gentrify.

    • BearDown100393

      I didn’t realize Barret Robbins returned to Oakland.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Start of the end?

      I always wonder at what point the people will turn. At what point do the have-nots look at the haves and think … fuck this. Do we actually enter the Land of the Dead / High-Rise scenario, where the elite will have their cocktail hour looking down from their Ivory towers at the wasteland below? Will there be luxury anti-grav condos floating over a Mad Max nightmare ? The revolution has to come before we reach that point …..

      (Hey! Who turned off the power)

  • AlbertInTucson

    July 12, 1979: Happy Anniversary Steve Dahl and DISCO DEMOLITION NIGHT at Sox Park…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1CP1751wJA

    Glad I was already gone.

    • BerwynBomber

      From: Comiskey or Chicago?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Both.

        What an embarrassment.

        I was gone from the area by the end of ’74.

        • CanadaBear

          That one just made me laugh. The idiot father/son combo that attacked the coach was the worst for me.

    • BearDown100393

      The Jeff Fisher of radio personalities.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Dahl didn’t hit the air in Chicago until 1978 so i never had the “pleasure” of listening to him.

        • BearDown100393

          Imagine 5 hours of Jeff Fisher interviewing for a head coaching position. Now extrapolate that torture a 100x.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I think I’ll pass on that offer, thanks.

    • SC Dave
    • SC Dave

      1:11 of that video… loved that shower halfway through the Sunday doubleheaders

  • willbest

    Interesting that the IOC is allowing LA to basically take the 2028 Olympics if it wants it rather than continue to compete for 2024 (in which Paris is the favorite). That seems like a whole lot of bribery it is willing to pass up on.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/sports/olympics-2024-2028-paris-los-angeles.html

    • Sactowns#1

      Does it really matter? The rich grifters will continue to fleece the public for these “games” and the idiots will continue to lap it up.

      • willbest

        I believe LA was basically planing to use existing infrastructure. Turning UCLA dorms into the Olympic village, etc. Paris was as well for the most part. The IOC seems to have been humbled a bit by Rio. That might be part of the people of having 2 developed nations take the next few even if it means less money in their pockets.

        • BearDown100393

          Nearly every city claims that. Until the kickbacks roll out and the bulldozers dig in.

          • Sactowns#1

            You need a good excuse, like war or the Olympics, to fleece the plebes of their shekels.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            But back in 1984 LA used a lot of existing stadiums and venues, then got corporate sponsorships to help foot the bill on anything they had to build. Those games actually made money. Pretty sure Atlanta used the same model, however they had to build more venues.

          • BearDown100393

            ’84 was a long time ago. Took Montreal forever to pay off their games. Olympic Stadium was a dump.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            true, thats why I threw Atlanta in there. More recently London went way over budget but was still considered profitable because they used some existing venues. It’s a mindset with cities, utilize existing or go big. The cities that go big or need a lot of extra infrastructure are always unprofitable. I don’t see LA and the people of LA allowing huge debt or cost overruns. There is a model to follow to be successful, and of course you have to watch for shady deals and bribery.

      • willbest

        It wouldn’t surprise me if the LA bid had Walton money all over it though. They are building that nice new sports complex for the Rams.

    • BearDown100393

      Will it be a crypt or blood as the official mascot?

      • willbest

        MS-13?

      • Sactowns#1

        Crip* is the correct term I think you were looking for.

        • BearDown100393

          my bad

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      my guess is that the World Cup bribing scandal and arrests last year got the IOC a little worried.

  • SC Dave
    • BearDown100393

      Tackling a guy on a street? He’s worried about going to jail.
      Punching a teammate in the locker room? That’s just part of business.
      And then surmises he wouldn’t play ball again because of the violence.
      Yeah okay.

      • SC Dave

        I read that he wouldn’t play again because of the toll on his body, and of the depression and difficulty of adjusting to living a normal life outside of football.

    • CanadaBear

      The part that hit home for me was sliding to the bathroom. He’s 38 and has to warm up for 10 minutes before he can walk. YIKES! That’s only gonna get worse unless there is a surgical fix.

      • Bonniebmartinez

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      • SC Dave

        Yeah… brutal. Too much blunt force trauma.

        And people wonder why Cutler retired with $100M.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    New rule change.

    ARTICLE 3. INTENTIONAL FOULS TO MANIPULATE GAME CLOCK

    A team may not commit multiple fouls during the same down in an attempt to manipulate the game clock.

    Penalty: For multiple fouls to run off time from the game clock: Loss of 15 yards, and the game clock will be reset to where it was at the snap. After the penalty is enforced, the game clock will start on the next snap.

    • willbest

      Was this ever a thing?

      ed. I can’t think of a game that this happened in.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        yep. Ravens held everyone on a punt towards the end of a game last year in order to run out the clock.

        http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/07/2017-nfl-rule-changes-manipulating-clock-penalties-ravens-49ers

        • willbest

          Oh right, that was genius. I am curious if they similarly changed the rules to prevent the offense from using a WR for their 5th lineman and lining him up 15 feet away down the LOS.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I used a similar tactic playing Madden. On game winning scoring drives against me, jump offsides, then tackle downfield receivers before pass get to them. The game would only penalize me for the offsides and burn off the clock. YES. IT IS A DICK MOVE!

          • SC Dave

            Shouldn’t dick moves be your specialty?

  • Sactowns#1

    Re-watched both of the newer Planet of the Apes films in preparation for the release of the new one. Man, what I great series. I think it’s probably the best film series currently going. Better than any of the superhero series out there, better than the latest regurgitation of Star Wars and, dare I say it, better than the space western turned comic book movie Star Trek.

    In the third installment I just want to see Woody do two hours of this https://youtu.be/KxLFdJLSho8

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Wrong!

      • Sactowns#1

        How so? What series is better?

        • willbest

          Transformers

          /ducks

          • Sactowns#1

            I had no idea you were a 17 y/o kid living in china.

          • willbest

            Yep, I am eagerly awaiting Pacific Rim 2.

          • Sactowns#1

            If Guillermo Deltoro directs again I’ll happily pay to see it. He makes total escapism films with such a great look and feel.

        • willbest

          In a more serious vein, I would offer up John Wick.

          • Irish Sweetness

            It ain’t Human Centipede …..

            (Aside: I am reading Henry Miller’s Tropic of Cancer currently, and he refers to a human centipede…….)

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          I honestly don’t really care, I just felt like disagreeing.

          • SC Dave

            I knew that.

    • willbest

      Star Trek really went down hill fast.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I will say that the last couple movies are nowhere near the worst movies in that series.

      • The new star treks suck. The first reboot was ok, but that last one waa brutal.
        But hey, i think all od them pretty much sucked. Wrath of khan and First Contact were prolly the best

        • SC Dave

          The whale movie was ok too

          • willbest

            That was 4. You know for the life of me, I can’t remember what 5 was about.

          • SC Dave

            Ha ha… nor I

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            finding God. it was god awful.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Five was BAAAD.

            Shatner directed.

            Basically, Spock’s long lost brother, who EMBRACES emotion, hijacks the Enterprise to try and go see God.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Shatner has ANOTHER start trek doco out “The truth is in the Stars”, it was okay. I don’t understand the world’s apparent fascination with a grand-standing fringe scientist like Hawking though.

            http://trekmovie.com/2017/03/18/new-william-shatner-doc-explores-star-treks-influence-on-science-and-the-world/

            The best is still ‘The Captains’ (2011) because that’s the inside track on playing Starfleet Captains, and the families/marriages they sacrifice to play them.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I thought the first one was terrible …..

          • Irish Sweetness

            God.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Didn’t like the last one but were we not entertained by Into Darkness?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Looking forward to that!

      SW VIII should be good though. Less JJ Abrams, more star wars. Rogue One had everything

      The new Spiderman is really good. As it should be since its Marvel’s first attempt – but they got it right … Spidey is a kid, and just working things out as a super-hero, learning how to spin webs and be a spider, how to handle the avengers etc.

      The last Star Trek movie was total duff, but the new TV series will hopefully be awesome.

      My favorite movie is Shia’s latest arrest video though. It includes such gems as “I’ve got more millionaire lawyers than you’d know what to do with you stupid bitch … I’m FROM it you dummy ….”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-dIIJA4JdA

      • willbest

        Its a shame he wasn’t shot for resisting.

        • Irish Sweetness

          IKR ?

          I don’t even think it’s totally drink/drugs … he’s possibly just a colossal arsehole.

          • CanadaBear

            I think it’s a combo of assholery, drugs/alcohol and being an outright loon on top of all the other shit.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Still like the climax of the original “,,,APES.”

      Taylor (C.Heston): ” You maniacs! You blew it up!”

  • willbest
    • AlbertInTucson

      Surrender your driving privileges AND $100K to be chauffuered around at
      37 MPH.

      I’ll pass, for now.

      • Irish Sweetness

        A certain monarch of a certain SE Asian country who lives in Germany mostly, recently spent 100K Euro on toys for his dog. The country he’s a monarch of is a poor one, and he owns the country and technically, everything in it, because of his last name. They will be oblivious to this. And to the fact that he has HIV. And that he was just shot in the arse in Germany by kids with BB guns whilst out on his bike!

        And so it goes ….

        • evantonio

          a little vonnegut at the end there?

  • willbest

    “Man, sportswriting is in a lot of trouble. It’s just so sad. Subscribe to a newspaper! Pay a few bucks!” – Jeff

    I don’t want to pay for the other stuff though. ESPN has the right idea with insider, I just never felt it was worth cost over their free content.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Lend/give me that few bucks, Jeff.

      And I’ll buy food.

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  • Irish Sweetness

    Saw two Bruce Arians’ stories today. One, he had cancer cut off a kidney. Two, he drank paint as a kid. Twice.

    • Scharfinator

      Coincidence or causation? Hmmm

      • Irish Sweetness

        Well Scharf, the relative juxtaposition in space and time with my consciousness re said Arians-related suggested … ehhh … one of those. Yeah.

        A safe bet, would be not to drink paint. Most people whose brain stems are functioning have already figured that out though, and without being told not to.

        • Scharfinator

          “A safe bet, would be not to drink paint. ” Hee hee, one of those fun quotes you see on the internet.

          • Irish Sweetness

            It looks like yoghurt, but it’s not.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Can only hope it was just in the Kidney.

  • King of DBB

    Mayweather pulled out an Irish flag and wiped his ass with it.

    Now that’s how to hype a fight! That’s what Clubber Lang shoulda done with the Italian flag.

  • King of DBB

    La Buff has his Mel Gibson moment

    He calls the cops evil “cause you black” and says “your wife likes to watch porn with black dick” to a black officer.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/shia-labeouf-arrest-videos-georgia_us_5966d0ffe4b0a8d46d120d0b

    In addition to being racist, it’s just nonsensical. If the officer’s wife did watch porn, wouldn’t he be happy that it was black dick? I would think the bigger insult would have been “your wife wants white dick”, but clearly La Buff was too shitfaced to assemble that logic.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Cubs trade with White Sox.

    They get Jose Quintana for 4 prospects.

    • Bender McLugh

      it smacks of desperation, but with Kyle set to return soon this is a nice boost. Don’t know much about the Jimenez kid they gave up.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Actually Schwarber was already back in the lineup for them over the weekend. Lackey to the 10 Day DL to make room.

        Rumor had the Cubs offering Schwarber to the Tigers for pitcher, Fulmer.

        Bottom line on Kyle: He’s DH. “A Fish Outta Watta” in the NL.

        Sox & Cubs RARELY trade.

        I know nothing about the prospects the Sox received.

        MLB says 2 of them are the #8 and #63 prospects giving the Sox 9 of the top 100. The key word, of course, is “prospects.”

        Still. glad they didn’t send Quintana to the Yankees.

        • Bender McLugh

          I meant Hendricks, so there’ll be two quality starters joining them instead of just the one they traded for. Not sure I agree about Schwarber, he was hitting everything last year and now he seems too much in his own head. He may turn it around, we’ll see. But yeah, DH body so he’ll be AL bound at some point in his career.

          • Bender McLugh

            (AL bound – see what I did there?)

        • BuddhaJoe

          Tigers are probably selling, so I’d imagine that rumor is bullshit. Plus Fulmer is young and probably best thing they have going for them right now so they’d be insane to trade him.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agree with your second sentence but why would that mean the rumor is bullshit?
            My guess is the Cubs dangled Schwarber for Fulmer and the Tigers passed. I would. Schwarber’s value is in full-scale plummet at the moment.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Last Sox-Cubs trade I can recall was Sammy Sosa for George Bell.

      • SC Dave

        Guess you’d have to say the Cubs won that one.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Sammy didn’t discover the magic juice until he got to the North side.

          • Johnnywad

            In his bat or his veins?

          • Bender McLugh

            both

          • CanadaBear

            Come on Al, just because he put on about 50 lbs and his head size went from normal to bulbous, doesn’t mean he was juicing. Oh wait, yeah it does! I don’t blame any of the players that were juiced. Everyone connected with MLB knew tons of players were juicing and nobody said a word about it. Whenever the press would get indignant about it after the fact, it made me laugh. They were just as complicit as MLB.

    • BerwynBomber

      Because of Quintana’s contract, wasn’t thrilled with the haul. Obviously Jiminez is a helluva chip but I wish they could have pried a big leaguer — eiither Almora, Baez or Happ — from the Cubbies.

      Then again, I have some trust in Hahn and believe him when he says it was the best offer they’ve seen since Jose has been on the market, which I assume would mean since the offseason.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Meh.

        Two of baseball’s top 70 prospects,supposedly, and a couple of other bodies thrown in doesn’t seem bad.

        I liked Quintana but he’s not Chris Sale.

      • Bender McLugh

        Almora, Baez & Happ aren’t going anywhere this season at least

  • JC

    Umm….what about Benny Cunningham. He’s better than both Carey and Langford and he’s a three down back. He just came from a very, very bad o-line and scheme.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      how do you know he is a 3 down back? He never ran enough with the Rams. Also the other RBs w the Rams had better numbers with the same very, very bad o-line and scheme.

      • JC

        If you have all 22, check out the 2 or 3 games in his rookie year where he got more than 10 carries. Zac Stacey was the guy with the draft capital(which, of course means he’s automatically better) so they would never leave Benny on the field. Yes, he gets hit 2 yds behind the line half the time but on those carries when he had a glimmer of space, he demonstrated outstanding burst and agility. He’s definitely faster than his combine numbers and he can break tackles. He’s the prefect backup for Howard.

        • SC Dave

          Let’s hope that last sentence is accurate.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Yeah, the one thing we do well is running backs. I have no doubt they’ve gotten a serviceabler dude in BC.

          At this point I think I would take Fournette plus picks(trade-down) instead of Trubs.
          I’m greedy. I want a Lombardi. Trubs isn’t doing shit for us THIS season. It might be my last. I want a Lombardi. Would anyone take that (admittedly impossible) deal now?

        • Bender McLugh

          I hope so, Carey seemed to be that guy but can’t stay healthy.

          • What we liked about Carey is that Marion Barber mentality to get those tough yds. But Howard is better at it, so in some ways he becomes expendable.
            I’ll pull for him elsewhere (as long as he’s out of our div)

        • Couldn’t agree more.
          Benny has major upside AND he returns.

  • BerwynBomber

    The Langford/Carey battle might be interesting were this a championship-caliber team as any Howard back-up could prove integral to our team’s trophy chances. But as it is this is just a battle for a roster spot among a couple of JAGs.

    Much more interesting could be the battle for the starting positions/playing time among our DBs and TEs. Those battles will also include some new faces.

    • SC Dave

      Absolutely. They are JAGs to be sure, and I can almost see neither one making the roster.

      • Agree.
        I think they’re both getting dumped for Benny (barring INJ or Cohen looking like complete shit)

        • willbest

          Can Benny spell Howard? I think they run 4 RBs and kick langford to their curb.

          • Absolutely Benny can spell Howard. He is a solid 220 who can move and catch. He’s the perfect type of back up to him. He can get those tough short yds (unlike Cohen) and can catch (unlike Howard).
            I like our HB vision going forward.
            That’s why i think Carey and Langford are all but gone.
            That and I’m positive we’re carrying 3 QBs this season

    • I’m very curious who wins the starting job opposite Demps. That’ll determine a lot.

      Who will emerge as the #1CB now that Porter is gone will also matter more than two HBs I think will likely be cut.

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        Hall will win starting job opposite Demps.

        Amukamara will be top dog at CB. Reports were that he had great OTAs and mini camp.

        • Is Hall even practicing at FS exclusively, or is he playing CB with a dash of FS?

          Prince SHOULD be the #1, until he gets hurt.

          I’m hoping Cooper surpasses expectations.

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            Hall officially moved to FS. I believe that is the only position he played so far this off season.

            Prince and Cooper should start. Hoping Fuller picks up..he should be motivated enough to put some good tape ahead of his free agency in March. Would not be a bad back up if he plays like he did towards end of 2015.

          • SC Dave

            Hard to know. Maybe Kyle has watched too many CTE videos.

          • Most bear fans arnt expecting shit from our #1 draft picks this yr from 3/4 drafts

            Edit. Or Long for that matter

          • CanadaBear

            I just saw a piece where Fangio said he will play both positions and it should help him make the roster.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Agreed.

      • willbest

        I don’t see Fox going with anybody other than Amos. He likes his vets

    • Johnnywad

      Kinda what I thought too. Cohen (Spelling?) might eat both their lunches anyway. Listened to just a minute of Sam Acho yesterday. According to him at least, the kid is lightning.

      • Irish Sweetness

        His tape (outside the NFL) is freaky. Devin II?

  • BuddhaJoe

    In case anybody was wondering, the king weighs in:

    http://deadspin.com/joey-chestnut-hot-dog-expert-settles-sandwich-questio-1796753161

    A hot dog is NOT a sandwich.

  • Cormonster

    I’ve been getting a kick out of all the CNN memes the past week, but this one takes the cake. Funny as hell. I hope Trump retweets it just to see the reaction from the fake mainstream press.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-hEKgyeSAg

    • SC Dave

      Stone and Parker said something along the lines of “we’re not making fun of Trump next season because we don’t want to become CNN”.

      • Or that bastion of left wing thought, the NY Post

        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEfrk82VoAAzJTu.jpg

        • SC Dave

          Do you suppose that is one of those newspapers we’re supposed to buy per Jeff’s tweet?

          • Considering the NY Post was run by Murdoch and extremely right wing, doubt it

          • willbest

            I don’t know, its not Podesta level of stupid, but its pretty ridiculous to believe that a British publicist would know a “Russian agent” with dirt on Hillary. There is some Nigerian prince around that needs your bank account information so he can park some money there for a few days too.

            I like the giant sting operation by the Obama Administration angle though. She was allowed in by special order of Lynch, she was escorted around by Dems, appeared in a congressional hearing with the US ambassador to Russia, and attended an anti-trump rally. I am going to laugh if it turns out the judge signed off on the FISA warrant because DTJ met with her.

            The problem is that sort of thing only happens in movies. The Obama administration usually comes up with sting operations like “we will sell guns to Mexican drug cartels, so that way we will know which group is doing what killings”

      • Irish Sweetness

        That’s happened a lot in comedy. Comedians coming out and saying “Immigrants, eh? What’re we gonna do?”

        Where’s the joke? Get political if you want, but make fun of all of them, and BE FUNNY.

        America also dodged a different kind of bullet with Hillary. It was a shit-show either way. It was the dummy or the Bilderberger. There should be a revolution either way.

    • Bender McLugh

      you show up just to post on a friday something non-boobs??? I expected more from you Cor….

    • willbest

      Doesn’t he get broken on the rack at the end?

  • Irish Sweetness
  • Scharfinator

    The only way to make Skip Bayless better…

    Let him debate himself.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=38&v=-WmMj4lfpdc

    • SC Dave

      That was great!

    • willbest

      I love the internet sometimes.

      • SC Dave

        Every now and then. I had a great time with Farage.

        Fucking shame we have no one like that here.

  • Bender McLugh
    • willbest

      Nice

  • Irish Sweetness


    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Five favorite TV shows of all-time:

    5. Jeopardy / Seinfeld (tie)
    4. Slings & Arrows
    3. Fawlty Towers
    2. The Wire
    1. The Twilight Zone

    I’m into the second season of the Wire. I’ve heard and read nothing but great things about it since it came out and I’d never seen an episode until fairly recently. It has achieved cult status according to Ricky Gervais etc. and I watched a doc on its popularity with celebs before ever seeing an episode.
    More than just a cop show, all that.

    Does it get drastically better? Is it like Hannibal, where each of the three seasons is significantly better than the last and builds to a barely-survivable climax? Or does it just ramp it up a bit for each of six seasons like The Sopranos. The Sopranos was great TV. Breaking Bad (which I note Jefe said was over-rated – it’s not, nothing has rivaled it since other than GOT). Lost (other than the jump-the-shark-fraudulent-dishonest ending).

    But I do not get the fuss so far. More than just a cop show? Not really. I can remember the feeling in the room watching Hill Street Blues with my family as a kid. It was something different, or at least I could see the way my old man felt about it made it different, the way he would bring me to see a certain horse run before it became a legend. The Wire though? Really?

    But yes, for Jeff it is, and vive la difference. For example, let’s look at our top five TVs – and please, lurkers, join us, share your favorites (you don’t need to say anything if you’re shy, people will appreciate the share. Just post your top five.

    Quick scan …… live on air without really thinking about it …. and disregarding young kids tv ….

    5. Breaking Bad.
    If you’re not hooked by episode 2 …..

    4. Babylon 5.
    A slow first season admittedly, but you can’t say the characters weren’t finely fleshed out by season two. Then the presence of the Shadows is revealed, exquisitely ramped up season by season, revealing more and more of the extent of the Shadows’ control – and this is not hyperbole or exaggeration – with some Shakespearean passages delivered by Shakespearean actors delivering the dialogue of J. Michael Straczynski. And if you’re not in tears by the end ….

    3. The Sopranos.

    2.. Star Trek Next Gen. Gene made important but brilliant TV. The original series was so ahead of its time, and its relevance still increases.

    1. Doctor Who. Has to be, innit? 50 odd years on the go. Why? Because it was and remains the best idea for a TV show ever. Time Lord travelling throughout time and space with his companions in a phone box that’s bigger on the inside than it is on the outside. Brilliant.

    Close but no cigar …..

    6. Lost.
    Fuckers cheated us on the ending and then lied to us like we’re all idiots. Who bought their bullshit response? Stand up! Just like the temporal paradox in GOT with Hodor .. .and holding the door. You cheated Mr. DB. Weiss et al!

    Everything that went before it – with every episode ending in that DUFF!- brings it to the event horizon of a top five. But fuck you Carlton Cruse and Damon Lindelof. You spun a web for all those seasons and promised us as viewers that it would all be explained …. the greatest feat of writing in any medium ever … an intricate weave of storylines that was going to blow our minds – a true masterpiece that I could not see the magic being done …. you built it up as the greatest sex ever – oh the episode near the end with Jacob, and the man in black … and their mother …and then you fucked us. Right at the end. You fucked us. Shame on you. You cheated.

    7. This is us.
    It’s only one season in! What a season though.

    8. Weeds.
    I couldn’t have a list without Weeds on it.

    • Bender McLugh

      Mash, Cheers (yep), Star Trek NG, Twin Peaks, GOT.

      • SC Dave

        Twin Peaks was different at least.

        • Bender McLugh

          it created a new standard for weird.

          • SC Dave

            A fair assessment.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Cheers was great.

        • CanadaBear

          The part I liked about Cheers is it didn’t get preachy like MASH. They would get semi-serious once in a while but that was it.

    • Johnnywad

      Loved Breaking Bad.

      Just about through the last season of Mad Men which has become tiresome, but once upon a time felt like it was really well done.

      This is Us is at the top for me. It’s brilliantly written. The acting, IMHO, is as good as it gets for TV. I will never be able to see this cast in anything else without seeing them as their characters on This is Us. It feels like they’re real people.

      • Irish Sweetness

        The fat boyfriend – the was even better in The Knick. Also a great show.

    • willbest

      The last season of Bablyon 5 was whatever, the rest of it was excellent.

      Next Gen’s philosophy of no conflict between the crew members made it lack depth. TNG has a lot of great episodes, but to me DS9 is the best that Trek overall.

      Lost was a good first couple seasons, I lost interest in season 3 or 4 so I didn’t feel betrayed.

      Weeds, likewise, a great few seasons. Then it just got absurd.

    • Corporal Clott

      My hard drive is full.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        too much porn?

        • Corporal Clott

          No, thank God.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            besides you can never have too much porn.

    • BerwynBomber

      Season 1 of the Wire was fine stuff but it started to become predictable in S2 with some iffy plot moves. Overall, a tad overrated but definitely worth checking out, especially the first season where the story felt less forced and more organic.

      But I would agreed with your overall assessment. Never felt like much more than an updated crime show, which was given more leeway via premium cable standards.

      The Sopranos was, indeed, the goods.

  • willbest

    This is hilarious

    UMich rents goats to clear 15 acres of difficult thorny weedy poison ivy stuff as an environmentally friendly alternative to weed killers. The goats finished the 3 month job in a few weeks, so the university moved them to other areas. Now the union representing the university landscaper is complaining that the goats are stealing union work.

    https://fee.org/articles/labor-unions-are-now-filing-grievances-against-goats/

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Greatest Of All Time!! FUTURE HOFERs!

    • SC Dave

      Unions… smh

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Baaaaa!”

  • Irish Sweetness

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd307iv5h3Y

    Russian Big Brother. Jebus H …. you do not want to go to war with these people. Especially not the women.

    • willbest

      You are a big fan of making those of us stateside work to see what you link.

    • willbest

      On the whole Russian thing, I read somewhere recently that Russia is now training some Missile on China, because the Chinese are informally invading Siberia via migration. WW3 is going to be interesting.

      • SC Dave

        WW3 has been underway for a while with the Islamic invasion of Europe.

        Shit, even the Pope recognizes that

        • Crusades, round 3?

          • Corporal Clott

            Ok Mr. Professor, let’s see if you know what the “Crusades” were actually about?

            Let’s have it….

          • Obviously it was a way for the Illumaniti to take out a rival
            Or space aliens to body snatch the Pope and Kings to inseminate Israel with space sperm?

            I think we all know what the history books tells us, but I’m interested in the Crusades according to Trac (feel free to jump in Irish).

            I love good conspiracy theories. They’re better than fiction novels.

            Unwrapping tin-foil…now.

          • Corporal Clott

            Awe shucks you’re no fun…alas, one day I may find a worthy opponent.

            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bc–hmQ7uBg

          • Johnnywad

            I’m pretty sure it was oil, lithium and opium.

      • Johnnywad

        Do we still “train” missiles? Don’t they just launch them and tell them where to go? Couldn’t any missile be sent just about anywhere?

        • willbest

          Depends on the missile. Sure in the US we will launch a $3 million dollar missile when a $50k would due, but the rest of the world doesn’t have that luxury.

    • King of DBB

      I was at the store with my son. There was a teddy bear in an aisle display wearing a bear skin coat.

      My son who is funny and clever held it up and said “look dad it’s Buffalo Bear”

      Made me think of that with Russian bear

  • It’s not that teams don’t try to build their Olines. After all, LT is only behind QB and Rush.
    But oline is tricky. It’s filled w busts like Joekle, Cooper, Carimi…and on top of that good gems like Slausen always pop up.
    Look at Kush. He might be as good as Long and we didn’t have to waste a 1st on him.
    I think what gets a team’s oline into trouble (besides busts) is that they’re always trying to turn late rounders (Grasu, Webb) into more than they are.
    This points directly to the oline coach. The good ones know when to cut their losses while the bad ones always keep those chumps in the starting lineup (Tice-Webb).
    Our oline coach seems to judge and coach up our big boys well.
    Not just Slausen, but even Kush and Larsen looked good. And let’s not forget Leno who like Webb was a 7th rder.
    And Massie seemed to round out towards the end of last season after a somewhat shaky start

    • JC

      Speaking of which. Anyone know why we fired our offensive line coach? There were a lot of games when we were missing personnel and they held up pretty good. I don’t know a thing about offensive lines but that was a shocker.

      • Yeah. I was rather impressed by that too. Not only did the mske Howard a stud, but they kept the sacks down (when Cutler wasn’t in because he always held the ball too long and got sacked at a much higher rate than either Hoyer or Barkley)
        I think (Mazu?) got a promotion. Have to double check that

    • CanadaBear

      Not to put too fine of a point on it but Grasu was a 3rd rounder.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Michael Floyd gets a 4-gamer.

    Rumor has Zeke Elliott looking at a 1 or 2 gamer.

    • SC Dave

      PEDs?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        domestic abuse.

        • SC Dave

          Shit. Funny that Alshon got worse for some recuperstive substance than assholes beating up girls.

          • Johnnywad

            That is a problem.

  • Corporal Clott

    “Floyd Mayweather just called McGregor a “faggot” loudly on TV. What a flatout fucking disgrace this all has been for sports.” Surly Jeff

    Should he have whispered?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      i haven’t figured out why they need all the these press conferences.

      • Corporal Clott

        For press?

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          just WWE style side shows

          • Corporal Clott

            Well…it seems to work pretty well for politicians…….just sayin…

      • willbest

        Don’t they want me to spend $100 to buy the fight?

    • SC Dave

      *yawn*

    • AlbertInTucson

      And Macgregor called Mayweather “boy”.

      NEITHER of these guys is worthy of anybody’s admiration.

      Unless, of course, you happen to be a racist, a homophobe or a wife beater.

      I hope they beat each other to a pulp.

      In any case, I won’t be watching.

      • Johnnywad

        They will

      • Corporal Clott

        By now people should be getting the picture that anything goes when it comes to fleecing the morons who by this crap.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Calling someone “boy” when you are Irish means nothing. If he were a redneck from Alabama, it’s a different story. Americans can’t pull the ‘white’ thing on an Irishman. We were in slavery for twice as long, and we were not fed, housed and protected like black slaves, who were valued property.

        Political correctness much? He can’t say “boy” but people are now openly racist in targeting Muslims with their comments? Floyd said ‘Faggot’? So what? Grow a pair. Man up. These are professional fighters, not Disney presenters. I have read some American news articles that completely misunderstood everything they witnessed over the press conferences, and they even misinterpreted Dana White’s tweet about MMA doing its pressers differently – he was in no way remonstrating Conor for any ‘racial’ issues. That’s the problem with all these people covering events when they don’t know the first thing about the guy from Dublin. He is NOT a racist. And if he was, that doesn’t mean a damn thing at the end of the day. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone …

        We live in a crazy world where you can now “identify” as anything you want, even when it is contradicted by your dna and sexual organs. I have a tip for all the curmudgeons and haters. Don’t watch. By all means. But nobody cares that you won’t be. And the biggest event of all time – which you won’t see – won’t be missing your money.

        A man who projects himself from collecting social Welfare to being the biggest MMA star in history in five years isn’t worthy of admiration? Two division belt holder in two different organizations, and he’s about to become the biggest star of all times when he squashes Mayweather.

        Pretty impressive from where I’m standing, Al. And when Malteseser-head’s cranium bounces off the canvas, wait til you see the saddos fill up the blog, all the new fans with tenuous Irish connections. Wait til you see. He’ll be bigger than Ali. Ali was only a boxer.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Sorry, but I think they are both turds.

          • Corporal Clott

            No apologies needed Al.

        • Corporal Clott

          El McGregor? Eye like it!

        • CanadaBear

          Is that you Dana?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Killer combatants should be discussing Balzac and drinking from small teacups with their pinkies out. No doubt Jeff ‘boycotts’ the biggest sporting event of all time and will remind us daily that he won’t be watching.

      • CanadaBear

        Biggest sporting event of all time? Really?

        • AlbertInTucson

          I don’t THINK so.

      • willbest

        Super Bowls pull 100+ million viewers. You think it will get half of that?

      • Corporal Clott

        More like killer clowns Irish.

    • CanadaBear

      This crap has been going on since Gorgeous George back in the ’50’s. Personally I’d like to see CM flatten FM but wouldn’t pay a nickel to see it.

    • willbest

      Doesn’t that mean cigarette where McGregor is from? Mayweather was just implying that he was going to smoke him. Jeff needs to stop it with his cultural imperialism.

      • Corporal Clott

        Jeff wouldn’t survive a day in his industry if he didn’t adopt the schtick. I’m guessing that at this point, he’d be unable to stop himself even if he tried.

  • Bender McLugh

    Cubs coming out hot for the second half. Maddon effect in effect

    • SC Dave

      They better stay hot until October or they got nothing.

    • AlbertInTucson

      1-0 since the break qualifies as “hot”?

      • CanadaBear

        It’s been that kind of year!

        • AlbertInTucson

          Yesterday was their first back-to-back win in weeks.

      • Bender McLugh

        They needed to come out strong, should have said strong, and they have. Really inconsistent in the first half

  • SC Dave

    Baseball players, particularly pitchers, hsve become such pussies.

    Imagine if your starting QB sat down the after the first 2nd half drive and it was considered more than acceptable.

    • SC Dave

      Speaking of baseball, the reference site has a stat on pitchers that is hits + walks allowed per inning pitched. In other words, how often opponents get on base other than errors.

      And realize you can watch, THIS YEAR, the #2 ALL TIME career leader.

      Guess who?

      The guy I said is the best player in baseball. The guy I’d start MY team with.

      Also, go look up #1. Those familiar with Ken Burns’ Baseball may well remember the story. The greatest pitcher you probably don’t know.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Burns’ BASEBALL is good but it is disappointing that he perpetuates the myth that Ty Cobb was A) Despised by his peers as a dirty player and B) A racist.

        • SC Dave

          Didnt Burns say that Cobb was an organizer of the charity games for Addy Joss’ widow? Perhaps I remember wrong…

          • AlbertInTucson

            Maybe, but for a guy who does such supposedly great research, letting those two myths go unchallenged is shoddy work.

    • SC Dave

      Speaking of baseball, part 2, how could the White Sox ever been so stupid as to give up Sale?

      • AlbertInTucson

        They needed to stock the farm. They weren’t going anywhere WITh him and weren’t going to be able to (or want) to pay him when that came up.

        Same with Quintana.

        Cubs built thru their farm system.

        Sox are trying follow suit.

        Of course, that doesn’t mean they will.

        Reinsdorf was willing to let Ventura manage for what? 5 consecutive seasons WELL below .500…?

      • willbest

        They weren’t planning on doing anything with him for the next 5 years?

    • CanadaBear

      Besides the wear and tear of throwing 90+ as a starter, the BP is stocked with guys throwing 95+. Back in the old days the relievers were washed up starters or guys that couldn’t cut it as starters. Now when they come in it’s pretty much game over if the team has 3-4 really good relievers. Not to mention a good starter is a crazy expensive asset that teams are trying to protect. It’s not like all these guys are woosies, most teams have a better option by the 7th inning.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Speaking of pitches, the Yanks and Red Sox just clicked in at over 400 going into the top of the 14th.

        • CanadaBear

          I see Chapman went on the DL. Apparently Joe over used him in the playoffs last year. What a shame!

          • AlbertInTucson

            Whoops.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Chapman STARTED the season on the DL but has been back for a few weeks. Got his 9th Save today.

            Yankee pen leads baseball in blown saves.

    • AlbertInTucson

      July 1, 1963.

      Juan Marichal of the Giants beats Warren Spahn of the Braves 1-0 on Willie Mays’ walk-off homer at Candlestick Park.

      Both pitchers went the distance.

      Mays homered with 1 out in the bottom of the last inning.

      The 16th inning.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Marichal threw 227 pitches.

        Spahn threw 201.

        Spahn went 23- 7 that season.

        It was the 13th time in his career he had won 20 or more games.

        Spahn had 22 complete games that season.

        Clayton Kershaw has 25 complete games for his entire 9+ season career.

        Spahn was 42 years old in 1963.

        • willbest

          That is only like 12-14 pitches an inning though.

          • AlbertInTucson

            It goes without saying that you don’t last 15 innings because you don’t have good stuff.

            The next time you see ONE starting pitcher throw into the 16th inning, let alone two in the same game, will be “never”.

          • willbest

            No doubt, but there was probably a bit of logic to why that happened that made perfect sense at the time.

          • Bender McLugh

            Only a knuckleballer

          • AlbertInTucson

            Not even one of THEM in this day & age.

  • AlbertInTucson

    5. Seinfeld.

    Never would have survived today.

    Their first season sucked. Characters are unrecognizable. Doubt if they’d have been allowed to come back for a second season in this day and age.

    Fact: Stations who aired the show in syndication warned the syndicator of Seinfeld to NEVER run those first season episodes during “Sweeps” periods.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Seinfeld is another show that left me on the shore. Like The Wire, You’re “supposed” to love Seinfeld or you’re not good enough.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I didn’t catch Seinfeld until after it had hit its stride. The last episode is one of the worst good show finales.

        Haven’t seen the wire.

        Never tried to get into Breaking Bad.

        Adirmired the 60s detail of MAD MEN but couldn’t stick with the show.

      • Malice Halice

        Seinfeld sucks. I don’t know a single person from da south side or up here in Mn that watched that bullshit. That was a show strictly for a “certain” demographic. Like friends. Martin was better than both shows combined. Martin was more suitable for my demographic so….

      • BearDown100393

        The Wire = American Reality

  • AlbertInTucson

    Yankees lose.

    Aroldis Chapman retires exactly NOBODY en route to blowing a save and taking the loss.

    Yanks have won 8 of their last 27.

    • Bender McLugh

      Cubs get Chapman back for another title run? I’d still take him

      • BearDown100393

        Better check the standings.

  • Irish Sweetness

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-offensive-lines-this-season

    Sitton gave up 6 QB hurries last sesaon. Leno/Massie gave up 73 between them.

    I haven’t seen any moves made to address that.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      a little context would help. How does 73 compare to other tackle combos?

      • Johnnywad

        I’m going to step out on a limb and say “not good”. Plus, it’s Braverman’s fault.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Braverman could start at Tackle for us.

          • Johnnywad

            He should play Left Out.

          • SC Dave

            Not sute I agree, but thumbs up for funny.

  • Malice Halice

    Langford n Carey will be a interesting battle. Honestly I’d can both of em n pick up a vet running back n grab prospect during later rounds of the draft. As I said b4 this will be a “Gurley” like year for Howard if our passing game sucks ass, especially having those 2 fucktards relieving Howard. BUT our passing game finna be top 5 we got TOO MANY hitters at WR. So at end of th year I see both players being escorted out da door. Our passing game will make up for the fact that Howard has NO HELP. I rather see Cohen run da ball or play slot or something.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      we have hitters at WR.

      • beninnorcal

        I was wondering about that myself. I don’t even know who WR1 is, Meredith? And we’re lucky if WR2 plays more than 4-5 games it would seem(White?).

        • beninnorcal

          In other words, our cup overfloweth.

          • Johnnywad

            With very modest, inexpensive wide receiver wine.

        • BearDown100393

          Braverman

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            really all we need is Braverman!

        • Bender McLugh

          Yes, Meredith then the fast ass Steeler whateverhisnameis, then White. If Cruz is healed up and regains some speed……nah thats a pipe dream. I expect Shaheen to catch 50+ too, Cohen 30+

      • SC Dave

        The Bears are not a baseball team.

    • BuddhaJoe

      Hitters at WR? Uhh…..

    • Bender McLugh

      Once again your hyperbole is tiresome.

  • willbest

    “Sometimes I feel like Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio in a Mary Stuart Masterson world.” – Jeff

    So after looking at both these women’s acting histories I still have no idea what the hell he is talking about.

    • BearDown100393

      Drunk

    • AlbertInTucson

      Miss Mastrantonio’s Bears connection: She attended the same high school as Hall Of Fame center, George Trafton.

      • Corporal Clott

        I have no clue who any of these people are that you guys bringing up.

        • willbest

          Mastrantonio was Gina in Scarface and Marion in Prince of Thieves. I had no idea who the other one is, and don’t really remember her in anything.

          • Corporal Clott

            Aah, still doesn’t help me. Which one was she? Scarface’s sister?

          • willbest

            She was Al Pacino’s sister

          • Irish Sweetness

            Tony Montana’s!

            And the bitch that ‘died’ in Abyss, I think. Ah, Al got that I see. Famous for drowning.

          • AlbertInTucson

            She is the love interest who intentionally drowns and is revived in THE ABYSS.

            She’s Gene Hackman’s daughter/opposing counsel in CLASS ACTION.

          • BearDown100393

            There was a weird coked out Oedipus inference.

          • Irish Sweetness

            If it was Tony’s Mom it would be Oedipal ….

          • BearDown100393

            Yes agreed. However the relationship between Gina and Tony was beyond f*cked up. There is reference in the script that their father was out of picture and not well thought of by either. In a way, Tony was not just a brother but also surrogate father. This is eluded in the film. As is the sexual tension that grows throughout the film, “climaxing” with Tony killing Manny, his 2nd in command and for all intents and purposes “brother” for marrying his sister behind his back. Near the end of the film, Gina acknowledges her brother’s desires by offering herself in a coked out surreal scene prior to her murder by the death squad. For what it is worth, Steven Bauer (actor portraying Manny) is performing yeomen work as Avi on “Ray Donovan” and is a scene stealing guest actor (plays a Mexican drug lord) on Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul.

          • Irish Sweetness

            MSM. The drummer in Some Kind of Wonderful, the John Hughes Movie. Fried Green Tomatoes was good.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Masterson is the female lead in FRIED GREEN TOMATOES and HEAVEN HELP US. She’s also in the James Caan Army Honor Guard vehicle, GARDENS OF STONE.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Nobody does man. But the sex change is coming. NTTAWWT.

      • willbest

        Are you referring to Jeff or the next season of Dr. Who?

  • willbest

    Jeff Bezos looks like he has been cast in the next Expandables movie.

    http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/59690c08c50c2956008b4b45-2400/jeff%20bezos.jpg

  • SC Dave

    My early bets on rookie of the year…

    D: Thomas, just to piss us ALL off.
    O: McCaffrey, to piss of you racists that think white boys can’t play RB.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I won’t be pissed off if Thomas gets DROY

      • willbest

        I don’t think you were on the Adams or bust bandwagon.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          I just don’t get too worked up on the “Oh we could have drafted so and so” bullshit. There is no use looking into the past and getting all worked up especially since we are NOT actually involved in the picks. The Bears pay people for that. It’s their jobs on the line, they should be ones with regret and will be fired for the picks. Every fan can wish at one point in time that their team drafted a different player, I just don’t think it should be something fans should dwell on. I have enough regrets in my life I don’t need to pile on with something as meaningless as this.

          • Bender McLugh

            Chin-chin

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            hmmm… I don’t know what that means.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I thought it was like “cheers” when you touch drinking glasses. Very upper class.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But their jobs AREN’T on the line. Jerry Angelo was making TERRIBLE picks for ten years earning about 50M dollars in the process.

            The offensive line wasn’t addressed. Emery was a scout for us for 6 years, with 3 years as GM .. .missing left right and center.

            I do get pissed off HBP, especially when any armchair GM could have done better than either of those tools.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            It’s fine if you want to dwell on it, but my point of view is who cares it’s history, just like when players are cut or not resigned, time to move on. Currently Pace seems to be doing a fairly good job, and we are moving in the right direction.

    • BearDown100393

      Mitch Trubisky wins OROY AND DROY.

  • King of DBB

    War of Planet of the Apes decides to not just homage this film but to basically just steal it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxLFdJLSho8

    • Corporal Clott

      There’s nothing new under the sun. Wouldn’t be surprised if this was originally written by Plato.

      • BearDown100393

        Plato plagiarized Bob Dylan.

  • BuddhaJoe

    RIP George Romero. Greatest cheesy horror guy of the generation. He won’t ever get his due either, which is more depressing.

    • BearDown100393

      Tarantino and Burton will square off over the Romero movie directing rights.

      • BuddhaJoe

        I actually like both of them , but nobody did more with less than Romero. And Burton had plenty of stinkers, although I still love Nightmare Before Christmas and the Jack Nicholson Batman.

        • SC Dave

          I actually liked James and the Giant Peach quite a bit, though Nightmare was better.

  • fishing florida

    After months and months of false joy over the departure of Jay Cutler, I have come to terms with my latent homosexual feelings towards Jay. It is like a huge weight has been lifted from my shoulders. Although I will not be able to ogle his tremendous ass in that tight uniform, I am glad that I will be able to see him all dressed up on the Fox broadcasts. I will be hanging on his every word. I am just hoping Fox puts together an “All-22” package for their broadcasters.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      that’s a little creepy.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Kirk Cousins will play a 2nd season under the Franchise Tag.

    I think it’s worth around $24 million to him this year.

    • willbest

      So would I for 24.5 million.

    • willbest

      Players making more money than Kirk Cousin for a season of football

      Derrek Carr, Andrew Luck, Drew Brees.

    • Johnnywad

      AND he’s going to get $100M + on the back end.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Quintana goes 7 scoreless with 12 Ks in his Cub debut today.

    The Orioles. Good for what ails ya, I guess.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Just caught the end of SHANE.

    Jack Wilson (Jack Palance): “What have you heard, Shane?”

    Shane (Alan Ladd):”I’ve heard you’re low-down, Yankee liar.”

    Wilson: “Prove it.”

  • AlbertInTucson

    Happy trails to director, George A. Romero, who gave the world the original NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD and

    Actor, Martin Landau, who first came to prominence as Master Of Disguise, Rollin Hand, on TV’s MISSION IMPOSSIBLE.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Martin was a good looking dude back in the day. Space 1999 is what I’ll remember him for, and George for Dawn & Day of the dead. Happy trails.

  • Irish Sweetness

    So Doctor Who … is now a woman.

    Sad to say I won’t be watching after being a fan for 42 years. They’ve pushed the PC boat out too far now- the BBC and their ‘diversity’ obsession. They’d maxed out the LGBT-per-square-inch already… and now they’re changing his gender. Will we be treated to a female Tom And Jerry now?

    I officially complained to the BBC. Twice. I hope there are thousands who did the same.

    Doctor Who does not have a vagina. Penis. Two balls. Two hearts. Tardis. That’s it.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Was never a fan but I can’t see this bit of casting magic playing well with Dr. Who Nation.

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