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Bears Fall to 1-4, Trubisky Debuts, Fox Flops: Rapid Fire Reaction to MNF

| October 10th, 2017

  • Let’s take Trubisky just on his execution and not on what those around him did. He displayed all the traits that excited Ryan Pace (and me) during the pre-draft period: athleticism, mobility, powerful arm, accuracy. He also tried to do too much several times and made a few mistakes. The interception was the glaring error but the throw that almost killed Markus Wheaton was just as misguided. The touchdown pass was more a physical mistake than a mental one.
  • One thing I liked about Tru’s performance: he ran to throw. He didn’t take off down the sideline when Bears receivers weren’t open. He threw the ball downfield and tried to let them make plays. When he’s got professional receivers out there, this will lead to big plays.
  • Worst performance from the offensive line this season, almost across the board. They were bullied at the point of attack and committed costly penalties.
  • Dion Simms, what the hell? He missed two blocks on pivotal runs and then ran short of the sticks/dropped the ball on a third-down play designed specifically for him. Explain to me why this guy is on the field over Zach Miller. Explain to me why getting Adam Shaheen experience in these games is not more valuable than wasting time on Simms. Money?
  • The fake punt and two-point conversion were spectacular calls. Those are the two positive things I will say about this coaching staff last night.

  • Bears defense looked dominant when Sam Bradford was playing quarterback, diving to the ground at the slightest sense of pressure. Case Keenum came into the game and completed 17-of-21 passes while Vikings offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur coached circles around Vic Fangio. Fangio is on his 18th ILB and signal caller so some of it is understandable but the Bears DC is not having a good season.
  • Thought last night was an opportunity for Dowell Loggains to really open the playbook and do some exciting things. He didn’t. Last night the passing attack was vanilla and he constantly got too cute with his running game, trying to trick a well-coached defense that was never going to fall for it. It ended up with the Bears behind the sticks way more often than they needed to be.
  • The Bears can do so much with Tarik Cohen. Why don’t they?
  • Ryan Pace isn’t going anywhere. And now he faces the most important decision of his tenure: is John Fox the right guy to bring this quarterback along? 2017 Bears are now eerily reminiscent of the 2016 Rams and I think Fox will meet the same fate as Jeff Fisher.
  • Leonard Floyd is way better when they let him rush the passer, isn’t he?
  • Akiem Hicks is the best Bears free agent signing in a long time. That guy is a dominant inside force.
  • Eddie Goldman is a sneaky great run stuffer. He’s never going to light up the stat sheet.
  • Pernell McPhee is non-existent. There’s just nothing there.
  • Pat O’Donnell’s angled punts to the sideline were THIS close to being brilliant. If he can get 5-6 more yards on them, he’ll be pinning opponents inside the 5 with consistency. O’Donnell is quietly having a very nice season for the Bears.
  • Hey refs. Don’t throw the flag until the penalty is egregious. It is impossible to watch these NFL games and get excited when you’re expecting to see yellow on the screen after every play. The Wheaton hold on the Howard touchdown? That’s not a hold. The OPI? That’s barely contact. Let these guys play the damn game and you’ll have a more enjoyable product for consumers.

Overall, a lot of positives to take from last night. But most importantly, I’m excited to watch this kid play quarterback again Sunday and the Sunday after that and the Sunday after that and…

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  • Bear Instincts

    First time Trubisky played and it was thing of beauty. But the rest of the team needs to step up big time. Its time to loosen the purse string during FA

    • nyb27

      Which FA WR would you want to get?

      • Bears would have to target a loser team that may be thinking of the 18 draft already.

        Only team that comes to mind is Chargers.

        They have a few WRs that I like.

        Tyrell Williams would be my target there.

        Ingman and Denario Alexander are other possibilities there.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Money is keeping Sims and Wheaton on the field over Miller and Thompson. Both benched both have better hands.

    • Bear Instincts

      Only saving grace is the trade deadline

      • Irish Sweetness

        Oooooh …. I forgot about that.

  • Phillip MyCrevice

    Trub’s QB rating was 60.

    Would help if Sims could catch the fucking ball.

    • BerwynBomber

      And a QBR of 11. To be expected.

      • CanadaBear

        It would have been a lot better if not for a few dubious penalties on some early completions. Oh well. I was really pissed about the refs last night. They did manage to ding the Queens a couple of times.

        • The margin of error is so small with Fox and our WR dearth of talent.

          Some penalties and that sideline non-catch, Sims drops etc, and Trubs night looks much better.

          • CanadaBear

            No doubt. I don’t include drops because these guys are going to drop a few every week. FUCK! I’m guessing it was due to lowered expectations but the INT didn’t make me crazy. Harrison made a really nice play. Those guys get paid too! Granted he shouldn’t have thrown it. He threw a couple out of panic that made me wince. Overall, you can see the talent, it just has to develop.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    At this point, no matter who the Bears decide to pick up off the wire, if the coaches cannot gameplan out of a paperbag, then the needle isn’t moving. Let’s hope the Oline gets more melded to protect Mitch. That’s all that matter. Keep him alive and standing to get the experience of understanding team’s defenses. Whatever happens after he throws, just pray.

  • Bear Instincts

    Am I the only one who thought Gruden was doing a better job the offense & defense from the booth than the crew on the sideline? Maybe he should be on the shortlist of HC to consider:
    1.harbaugh
    2.Toube
    3.Gruden

    • Scharfinator

      God no. Not Gruden. Guy would be as checked out as Fox.

      • SC Dave

        More so, I think.

    • Bears-4-Ever

      I could go for Harbaugh. He just about as nuts and aggressive as Ditka used to be. Maybe we could use a little crazy out there to fire things up.

    • willbest

      Fuck Gruden, if I wanted an announcer turned play caller it would be Romo.

      • Bear Instincts

        He was out coaching our guys from the booth. That’s how bad the coaching staff is

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          I was out coaching our guys from my sofa. I should be considered for the HC job.

          • nyb27

            At times, the way he was gushing about Trubisky, Howard, and Floyd, I thought he was campaigning for the job.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            He gushes about all players.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    “The fake punt and two-point conversion were spectacular calls. Those are the two positive things I will say about this coaching staff last night.”

    Even a blind squirrel…

    Last night proved one main thing. The Bears need a lot of work on offense, Tru did great considering it was his first start..I was expecting a few mistakes on his part but overall it was a solid performance. Penalties killed us, even if a few were questionable, we can’t have big plays come back for holding penalties…we must change this formula.

    Fox needs to go…I’m sorry but last night was it for me. He looked comical out there. We need a GOOD coach not a mediocre one, that’s what Fox is.

    Punting was surprising, I’m about to jump on the Pat O’Donnell fan-wagon.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Can’t for the life of me think why McBride AND Wheaton start over Deonte. No reason other than money for the first guy.

      • DaCoaches Mustache

        Deonte fucking sucks. Irish. He sucks shit. Wheaton is fast as fuck, and McBride looked pretty good to me last night.

        • CanadaBear

          I have no issue with McBride starting but Wheaton has been awful.

      • I think Deonte is OK, but ONLY in the slot. He runs great routes. Has good hands. He just struggles to get seperation. Tyrek Hill he is not.

        That being said, the starting WRs should be. Gentry/McBride/Wright with a dash of Deonte.

        I wouldn’t mind Cruz back if he’s in shape.

        • DaCoaches Mustache

          He runs routes, he has hands. Neither is great….

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Didn’t hear the broadcast last night but Jon Gruden sounds like he’s openly applying for the Bears head coaching job.”

    Gruden was doing what he usually does — calls out bad play and applauds good play.

    By all accounts the guy loves his post-coaching life. Has MNF, his coaching academy and his QB camp. I’ll give him credit. Seemed to hit a wall as an HC — burnout perhaps — and made a nice niche for himself outside the game w/out compromising his passion for it.

    Whereas a guy like Dungy seems to be mailing it in.

    • CanadaBear

      I thought Chucky was his usual self. Over exuberant and way too chatty. Overall I don’t mind him if he would just chill out a little.

      • Scharfinator

        I think he hangs out with the Dolphin’s former Oline coach.

        • CanadaBear

          Nothing against that guy but how fucking stupid can you be filming yourself doing blow and sending the clip to a stripper? BTW isn’t he a little (I’d say a lot) too old to be that stupid about strippers?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            especially since he is married.

          • CanadaBear

            Wow! Didn’t know that. He IS really fucking stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            and he has 3 kids.

          • beninnorcal

            ouch

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            and evidently owes a shit ton of backed taxes, but sure why not waste money on drugs and strippers.

            http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/article177912821.html

          • CanadaBear

            My guess is he will be single soon enough! Feel sorry for his wife and kids. Hope the guy gets some help because he’s in way over his head at this point.

          • BerwynBomber

            Fucking incredible. Seems like something most of us learn at the ripe old age of 20 or 21 years old: don’t fall in love with strippers, prostitutes, and hell I’d even throw in female bartenders. Nothing against such women — they’re just trying to get by — but they are paid to like you. Repeat that: they are paid to like you.

            Pretty sure the annual Darwin Awards have to include an actual death. Otherwise, this clown would be a certain nominee.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’d take him in a second Ber, and I thought he was interviewing for the job on live tv too. The “young quarterback” talk … definitely. He also made reference to Fox not being angry when HE would have been. Direct comparison.

    • The one thing that could possibly lure Chucky to the Bears is Trub.

      No secret Chucky loves his QBs, but more than that, Trub is an Ohioan like Chucky.

      However, Chucky is the WCO master, which is totally different than the Shanny O (and infinitely more complicated. Think, Andy Reid).

  • CanadaBear

    Re-posting from late last night.

    Holy Crap did MT look great early. Of course, the refs had to make sure nobody on the Bears would get too cocky. What was Bradford doing out there? I really have to question their coaching staff on that decision. He looked like he wanted to be any place but there. The better team prevailed. I didn’t blame MT for that strip sack. Griffen got to the spot the same time MT did. Leno totally whiffed on that one. Overall I’m encouraged by MT’s play and not too worried about the rookie mistakes. Wheaton sucks big hairy moose cocks. Sims is in the wings fluffing, waiting for his chance at the big hairy moose cocks. Nothing against Cohen but not every touch is going to be a TD. I was glad to see Jackson back there for the last punt. Pretty sure that was one of the reasons Benny was getting more touches. I was actually pretty impressed with Timu (even knocked down a pass) and of course he had to go down. What was the deal with Foxy not shaving? Looked like he had about a week’s worth of growth going on. Must have been a rough weekend at Bernie’s.

    • Jokey

      I liked the scruff. Maybe he’s growing a beard. Start the new season with a new look.

      • Cubsnlinux

        New season? You mean he is getting ready for that long fishing trip in 2018?

  • Jokey

    The delay of game after the timeout was maddening. Punt or go-for-it is Fox’s decision, correct? My only thought there is that they were considering the fake there and hadn’t decided the criteria they’d use to make the decision. Fox probably decided to do it, then changed his mind for whatever reason.

    • CanadaBear

      Not a great look for Weekend @ Bernie’s. They looked out of sync all night. Some of that is on MT being a rookie but not all of it.

    • SC Dave

      Hadn’t thought of the whole thing as a ruse to appear you were clueless.

      Right before a clever play.

      Brilliant!

  • Bear Instincts

    With their 1st round pick the Chicago Bears select DE/Linebacker Arden Key Jr – LSU Tigers

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    WRs sucked. Several plays the WRs ran routes and just sat down as if the defense were playing zone when they were play man. Easy to cover a guy not moving in man coverage. Also when play collapsed and Trub broke the pocket, WRs did nothing, basically stopped and watched. This is on coaching.

    • SC Dave

      It’s also on them just being shitty football players. You should not have to be COACHED to look for open space when the play breaks down.

  • BearDown100393

    Ditka went full retard officially

    • CanadaBear

      He’s always been there. He’s always been an asshole. The thing was he was The Bears asshole so we all went along with it.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “Yes, Howard, (Wallace) Berry’s a sonofabotch. But he’s OUR sonofabitch.” – Louis B. Mayer to his head of publicity at MGM.

        • CanadaBear

          Exactly. I liked Ditka as a player but the longer he was the HC it was obvious he was a head case. If I never saw or heard from him again I would be just as happy.

    • SC Dave

      When? 1987?

      • BearDown100393

        Probably

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    Fox is completely checked out. He’s been mentally fishing since he got here. I hope Pace is starting the coaching search now behind the scenes. You can see the bare bones of a good team taking shape. Fox is doing more harm than good. WTF was that take a timeout to prevent a delay of game, and then promptly taking a delay of game bullshit? Fucking embarrassing.

    • Don’t forget the TO on D RIGHT after the Vikes called a TO!

      • DaCoaches Mustache

        Yes, that was equally as fucking stupid. And don’t forget, he pulled both of these fucking egg head moves AT HOME!

  • Sactowns#1

    The play calling was utterly terrible. I get that they wanted to check out their shiny new toy but to become so predictable in the second half was shameful.

    • Bear Instincts

      They talked about this in the pregame show about how the defense would make adjustment because the field was cut in half and the plays ran in the 1st half would be the same plays ran in the 2nd half.

    • SC Dave

      Play calling is always bad when the plays don’t work.

  • Tortured Bear fan

    Simms, Wheaton, so on.. this is the worst free agent group I have ever watched, none deserves playing time before rookies.

    • BearDown100393

      Pace liked them

      • Tortured Bear fan

        and with (vets first) mentallity, can not help

    • Bears spent most 2017 cap dollars in FA of any NFL team. Didn’t even get a single average starter.

      • Bear Instincts

        What was Pace thinking? I hope he really loosens the purse strings in FA. Bring back Alshon and another big name WR like Jarvis Landry or Allen Robinson. We need help. Mitch needs help.

        • the only bright side is that none of these guys were given contracts to keep them around long-term.

        • Sactowns#1

          There’s no putting the toothpaste back in the tube. Alshon is gone and I doubt you find a high quality WR in FA. Good news is, if you’re happy with Mitch then trade back in the draft and load up on picks.

        • BearDown100393

          Why would Alshon want to be here again?

          • SC Dave

            Because they have a better QB, the defense is improving, and there is still Howard to block for.

          • BearDown100393

            And he will love playing for Harbaugh…..

      • Tortured Bear fan

        it seems Pace tested the market just for spending.

      • CanadaBear

        Whatever their formula is for signing FA’s they’d better come up with a different one.

      • Sactowns#1

        So how much time does Mitch buy Pace. I really don’t get all the love for Ryan around here because from what I’ve seen he’s done a fairly poor job of both drafting and in FA.

        • Phillip MyCrevice

          BINGO!

          • Bear Instincts

            You expect him to build you a mansion when he not left any materials to start with? Really. The clock starts to tick for Pace once the season ends and FA opens up. If we are not contending 2 years after 2018 FA then he needs to go. You have a QB, Defense and a nasty run game. No excuses.

          • Phillip MyCrevice

            He paid $18 million dollars for Mike Glennon.
            Dion Sims is a bust
            He let Robbie Gould go in favor of Barf
            He let Matt Forte go and signed Cunningham for more money than Forte wanted
            He let Matt Slauson go who went on to have a PB season for the Chargers

            “Markus Wheaton, another high-character guy. A lot of leadership traits. A type of guy that’s first in, last out every day in your building. He’s a speed guy. In 2015, he was top 10 in reception average. That’s an element we needed to add to our offense and I think he will be an impact wideout for our club.” -Pace

            He put out big bucks for Quintin Demps
            Prince Amukamara. Last night was the first night he got PT

            ” I really believe we are getting Marcus Cooper at the right time. He’s a player that is ascending. Marcus didn’t play corner until his junior year at Rutgers. Very smart player, very heady player, very aware player and has natural ball skills.” -Pace

          • look at what Matt Forte has done in NY. Letting him walk was the perfect move, as he would be the 3rd or 4th best RB on this team right now.

            Forte signed a $4 million a year deal in NY, Cunningham signed for veteran minimum.

          • WP4Life

            Thanks for the FACTS JW. I hate when shit is thrown out there to see if it sticks to make someone’s point.

          • Exactly. If Bear fans are longing for Forte, don’t worry.
            He’ll likely be cut by the Jets soon, so he’ll be available (and recovering from an IN).

          • I’m not going to sit here and tell you Pace has been great in FA. He stole Akiem Hicks, which is fantastic, but the rest is mostly bad.

            He mostly gambles on old guys for leadership or young guys with upside but question marks. Hicks is the only upside guy who hit, all the old guys busted (except maybe Jerrell Freeman, at least short term). But none are long-term anchors on the cap/roster, which is at least nice.

          • Phillip MyCrevice

            I can’t explain why so many of those guys got hurt.

            Freeman and Trevathan were hurt.
            Demps is out.
            Prince has been slowed by leg injuries
            Wheaton lost his appendix and then broke his hand
            Strawberry Kwik was always too small to be trying to stick as hard as he does, so that was just a matter of time

            But the worst offense by far is the fact that Hub Arkush asked EVERY OTHER GM if they were planning a swap with the Niners for Trubisky. All of them said no.

            Maybe they were lying. Maybe not. But no GM thinks he needed to trade up to select Trub. The Niners fleeced him. That and the decision to not fire Fox last year and the decision to take Glennon are big black marks.

          • Bear Instincts

            What does it matter what we paid for Trubisky? He is here now and he looks like he has a bright future ahead of him. If Trubisky wins us even 1 SB then he was worth whatever we paid to get him. You either go big or go change into a Browns uniform

          • Phillip MyCrevice

            When it’s announced that next year’s 3rd round pick belongs to the Niners, remind yourself of that.

            Maybe go buy a new Camaro for twice the sticker price. After all, go big or go home.

          • Bear Instincts

            a franchise QB changes the direction of an organization like no other player on the team. you have to pay the cost to play the game. yes most of the he said she said is that no on wanted Trubisky. but what if it was all a like? who wants egg on their face? Plus what if we sat at 3 and did not move and someone traded ahead of us and got him? what would you be saying then? oh i know, we could have just taken watson. pace wanted his man and he got him. case closed. just hop on board and enjoy the ride

          • SC Dave

            We dont have a franchise QB. We have a guy that MIGHT become one.

          • CanadaBear

            If MT pans out, and there’s a good chance he will, nobody but you and Bears fans with agendas will give any fucks about those picks.

          • willbest

            I don’t really care about the picks now. The odds of 9ers using those two picks to land a pro-bowler are roughly 6%

          • CanadaBear

            They aren’t worthless but there are certainly no guarantees. I wish the Bears had them but they don’t. Time marches on.

          • I don’t believe Pace got fleeced. What did he end up giving up – a 4rth and 3rd? That’s a lot less than what was asked for Mariotta or Wentz.

            And I’ve read other reports that GMs were making calls. They just don’t want to say because they don’t want to create QB controversies on their team. GMs lie? Nevah!

            Not firing Fox last season like I wanted was a YUGE mistake. Dude is a loser, and stinks up the entire locker room with his rotting corpse.

            I even wanted to keep Gase and fire Fox when he got an offer in MIA.

            Is Gase the answer? Maybe not. But he’s proven he can develop QBs more than Fox. And if Gase sucked, he’d be gone this yr anyways, so nothing lost.

            Either way, I do know this. Gase is NOT worse than Fox. And I doubt Fangio or even Birdcage are worse than Fox, so promote one of them and get it over with.

            Also, for those keeping score,

            Hoyer 350yds 2TDs 0Ints (on a 2 win team with 1 WR)
            McCown 194 yds 1 TD 1int (on a team everyone assumed was tanking)
            Cargo 93yds 1 TD 1 Int (on a playoff team filled with weapons)

          • SC Dave

            Freeman is not old.

          • he’s 31, which is getting up there for a LB.

          • Sactowns#1

            Thank you. His FA moves have been baffling at best.

        • CanadaBear

          I think he’s done well drafting. FA, not so much. With a better HC and better injury luck they might be a .500 team. Not great but progress.

          • Yeah, I don’t really have any complaints about drafting. FA is another story, but I wonder how much of that is outside of his control.

            NFL cap keeps jumping, which means most teams have money to spend. At that point, fewer good players hit FA and more teams are looking to spend money on those that do. Lower supply, higher demand, and that can lead to players being picky about where they go based on better team situations.

          • CanadaBear

            I agree with ya about the supply and demand but some of his FA picks have shown zero or close to it. Maybe with a better HC and MT showing he belongs, FA’s will consider playing in Chicago. That is if Pace tries to sign the better ones!!!!!

          • one thing I appreciate is that Pace has been deliberate about avoiding big contracts in FA that can hurt in upcoming years. Really the only big long-term deal he gave was to McPhee, and even that had outs every year after the 1st.

            The only time it sounds like he swung and missed for a big deal was with the top CBs last year, which definitely hurt. I am curious to see what he does this offseason with fewer obvious needs and a team that should contend for the playoffs in 2018.

          • CanadaBear

            Some of it seems to be snake bit by the injury bug. I can’t ever remember so many injuries year after year after year,

          • Bear Instincts

            Blame Fox

          • part of that is signing guys with those problems (Royal, McPhee, Amukamara, Wheaton, Wright come immediately to mind).

            But yeah, that’s been atrocious. Has to be something there with the training staff.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            However it seems players are dropping like flies all over the league.

          • I’m no doctor, but can we even blame the training staff?

            Like no way Cam could’ve prevented his knee from going the wrong way.

            TWO pectoral tears to the ILBs?

            Tricep tear?

            White fractured scapula

            But, I agree. Whatever’s going on, fire them all and bring in an entirely new staff. Can’t be worse.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I think we can blame the training staff for all the torn muscles. We have players that tore pectoral, triceps, hamstrings. Are they focusing more on on strength and less on flexibility?

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            I contend he’s been keeping his powder dry while he rebuilds the backbone of the team. It feels like he’s getting closer to that. So if Trubisky shows growth over the next three months, my bet is he’ll start to bring in more blue chippers. He’s certainly going to have to spend on a wide receiver.

          • He tried last year at CB. Wish he would have tried a bit harder at WR (Terrell Pryor, for instance, would look nice in a Bears uniform).

            But generally I agree. He’s patched holes with stopgaps in FA so far, which has meant a lot of small deals for a roster riddled with holes.

            Now that drafting has filled many of those in, next year will be about finding a few longer-term, better pieces in FA.

          • Bear Instincts

            You have to spend to win. Just look at the Pats. I want to believe that he has not been spending because he lacked a QB. Hopefully things change this season

          • There were PLENTY of good available FAs. Pace just whiffed big time.

            How many FAs could we have signed for that $ we flushed down the toilet with Glennon?

            #DestroyaCheap

          • Sactowns#1

            2014 draft- whiff
            2015 draft- whiff
            2016 draft- meh
            2017 draft -?

          • he didn’t draft in 2014, that was Emery.

            2015 was Goldman and not much else, though he did pick up 2 starters in UDFA in Meredith and Callahan.

            2016 was a fantastic draft. You cannot say meh to that.

            2017 looks promising so far, but obviously too early to say for sure.

          • Scharfinator

            HEY FACTS ARE FACTS 14 WAS A WHIFF EVEN THO PACE DIDNT DO IT

          • Sactowns#1

            My bad. I’m working solely from memory here and didn’t remember if he came in in 14 or 15.

          • Sactowns#1

            Well we skipped Roberto Aguayo so idk.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            only brought him in to see if he was better than Barth, and got rid of him pretty quickly. Just like they tried out a couple kickers this past week. Nothing wrong with that.

          • Sactowns#1

            I’m totally kidding. Aguayo being picked in the second round of that draft was laughable.

          • In the draft, Pace has been up and down, like most GMs (except Texans apparently).

            What it seems like is that Pace swings for the fences in the 1st, but goes safer after that.

            Pace goes for “floor” guys in FA as well.

          • CanadaBear

            2014 was PE. That whiffs on you. 15 Goldman and Amos. 16 Floyd, Whitehair, Bullard, Kwiat, Howard, 17 MT, Jackson and Cohen so far. Doesn’t look like whiffs to me.

          • BearDown100393

            Whitehair. JAG

          • It’s more than likely he’s NOT a C.

            He never played C in college.

            Once he pops out to OG, he should be better.

            Grasu OTH

            Don’t know wtf Pace was thinking drafting that shitbag.

          • BearDown100393

            Price to pay when a draft pick fails. Look at Kev White and our current receivers

          • CanadaBear

            He looked really good last year and has been moved around a lot. Lots more to see before I call that one JAG.

          • BearDown100393

            That was last season. Struggling now. Injured?

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Bull.

          • BearDown100393

            If u say so

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            The measuring stick is all fucked up.

            Every team has players they draft, and players they sign in FA, that don’t pan out.

          • BearDown100393

            Kev white is super duper

          • CanadaBear

            Maybe he could have been? Who knows? I don’t blame all those injuries to KW on Pace. No doubt it’s a pisser. At this point it’s almost as bad as the trade for Gaines Adams for a second rounder.

          • BearDown100393

            It was a dumb pick

          • CanadaBear

            If he panned out it would have looked pretty sweet. I’m almost never a fan of a WR in the first rd (I am a lifelong Bears fan after all). Since I don’t watch college ball I never get invested in players leading up to the draft. I’m not pissed about the pick and wish him well but he’s one snake bit fucker for sure.

          • BearDown100393

            WR + 1st Rd = Big Mistake

        • BearDown100393

          He is not Emery

      • SC Dave

        While not a starter, I think Bennie is a good addition.

        • CanadaBear

          I haven’t heard anyone pining for Langford!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I wish we still had Langford.

          • SC Dave

            You just HAD to

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Yes, yes I did.

        • agree. I like the bennie signing.

          I notice he’s in there on more and more 3rd downs.

        • Absolutely, but he’s basically on a minimum deal. The moves that take up salary are Glennon, Wheaton, Wright, Prince, Cooper, Demps, Sims. All basically 1-2 year deals for stopgaps. None coming anywhere close to earning their cap hits.

          Think of it as a zero sum game. Every player has a cap hit and contributes such an amount that he ‘s worth x amount of money. How many players are outplaying their cap hits, aka providing value to Bears? Plenty of guys on rookie deals, but not a lot otherwise.

      • Cuck Cooper

        Take away Glennon’s contract and where do the Bears rank?

      • Malice Halice

        That can’t be true. Hasn’t the Jaguars n giants been dominating FA the last 2 years?

    • From memory, guys I wanted in FA.

      Alshon/Pryor, or sneaky Garcon for cheaper. Didn’t get.
      TJ Ward. This should’ve been EASY. He played under Fox and Tre. Didn’t get
      Poe (if his back checked out). Baker, a very under rated DE. Didn’t get
      Any CB not made out of glass.
      LB Author Brown

      Those moves would’ve GREATLY improved our team ESP Ward who is an alpha leader, which we DESPERATELY lead. A tone setter who won’t tolerate losing or slackers.

      But nah, Pace was good with Demps and Jackson.

      I’m not saying either are busts, but why not bring in a superior product?

      I don’t understand Pace’s FA philo.

      He seems to operate under the assumption that the Bears won’t get INJs. Has he not witnessed the massacres our team have suffered under Fox?

      At this point I’m almost hoping he’s cheap because the alternative is that he’s incompetent.

      Of course, Pace can be both, cheap and incompetent.

      Everyone’s hoping he’s been waiting to make big moves in FA once we’re near.

      Well, guess what? If he fires everyone, and hires a whole new staff, he can easily use that as an excuse to continue his limp FA signings.

      • BearDown100393

        Pace has sucked at FA signings

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          No he hasn’t. I’d say he’s probably running about league average. Hits and misses.

          Hicks, Trevathan, Freeman, Sitton, Cunningham looks nice, etc.

          But you also get some shit birds in there too, like Barf, Wheaton, Sims, etc.

          Glennon is the one giant, glaring, brown star. Outside of that terrible signing, he looks to be pretty damn average in my opinion.

          • BearDown100393

            Wow. Average at best

  • Tortured Bear fan

    Fox is done, team must entice Cooter, whatever it takes.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    AP traded to Arizona

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
      • Bear Instincts

        and so it begins

    • CanadaBear

      The Aints are lucky to get out from under that contract.

      • they paid AP $2.8M for his 4 games, ARI only on the hook for $700k.

        • Bear Instincts

          steal

        • CanadaBear

          Guess they aren’t that lucky. I thought he was getting more than that.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I had him squirrelled away on my FF bench. So maybe it works out for me.

        • Behind that Oline? Doubt it.

          He can’t catch, and Palmer I’m sure leads the league in pass attempts.

    • Kinda odd fit, imo.

      I guess Zona is gamling that AP still has some breaking tackles talent, cuz he’s going to need it w that oline.

    • BearDown100393

      The Switch Friendly State

    • BerwynBomber

      Brand dead move by the Aints to sign him in the off-season but smart move to get rid of him ASAP.

      Not only does AP appear done but he is getting a little lockerroom cancer-ish late in his career.

      Weirdly enough, ARI seems teetering on rebuild mode but I’m not sure they know that yet.

      • CanadaBear

        100% Maybe he just needs a couple weeks of being the bellcow RB to knock off the rust but I don’t think so. I thought he looked slower with zero burst. NTM he’s even worse than Howard at receiving. You could tell from that sideline video when he was bitching at Payton, after Payton shut him up AP had that super defiant look that doesn’t bode well for team chemistry.

        • BerwynBomber

          Yup and that’s a team with a strong team leader in Brees. No way that gimme-my-touches shit was flying.

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t see Arians coddling him either. You would think AP would see this but he certainly wouldn’t be the first athlete that wasn’t very self-aware.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Does that have the odor of desperation for the Cardinals?

  • Scharfinator

    Do we win last night if Danny hadn’t been suspended?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      he probably would have gotten injured

      • CanadaBear

        Ouch!

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          yes that is probably what he would have said when it happened.

          • CanadaBear

            I usually swear a lot under those circumstances.

    • Bear Instincts

      do you even have to aks

      • Scharfinator

        …Yes

        • Bear Instincts

          you know better i know you do

          • Scharfinator

            Shame on me for trying to start a discussion in a blog discussion feed… 🙁

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            WHAT WERE YOU THINKING!!!!! I am so disappointed in you.

          • Bear Instincts

            after Timu went down and Jones took over we shat the bed. Danny T would have had us in position to stop those string of runs that eat up the clock

    • AlbertInTucson

      He doesn’t change the pedestrian play-calling.

      • CanadaBear

        It would have prevented the cluster fuck due to the 5th string ILB needing to make the defensive calls. That amounted to about half of the Queens O last night. Tough spot for sure.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Point taken.

    • BerwynBomber

      Maybe. But then again MIN also tried to help us win by not playing a QB the entire first half.

  • Viva

    Dave Toub for HC.

    • Bear Instincts

      Why him over Harbaugh or some young O-Coordinator?

      • Viva

        He’s a stellar tactician, and his guys always execute.

        • CanadaBear

          Success in different places with vastly different rosters. If he could pull in good coordinators, I think he could succeed.

          • Viva

            I would love to see his fingerprints on an entire game plan…

          • CanadaBear

            It would be different if John Harbaugh hadn’t broken the glass ceiling for ST’s coordinators being promoted to HC. Not to mention he’s been good at leading the Ravens.

      • BerwynBomber

        Flagged for redundant question. Fifteen yards.

        It’s Viva. He loves Toub. It’s like asking Irish why he thinks McMahon is the GOAT.

  • nyb27

    I try to bite my tonque when it comes to refs. I don’t want to be THAT guy that complains about them against your team.

    But I’m sick of people defending that the Vikes got called even more. The problem is, those ticky tac calls took points off the board or took us out of FG range on a game ultimately decided by one score.

    As a fan, I’m pissed off about spending time/money to watch refs upstaging the players. If I were an NFL exec or sponsor, I’d be livid that there was an opportunity for high drama on national TV if Trubisky got the ball back after the INT. Instead, everyone checked out after that ridiculous holding call on Floyd.

    • I could tell Chucky REALLY wanted to let the refs have it.

      He brought up more than once that that crew leads the league in flags.

      But the NFL sends memos out to not bust the refs. So chucky had to hold his tongue.

      • CanadaBear

        I counted four different times Gruden said if I were the coach, fan, etc. I’d be upset at that call. All of them against the Bears and all of them killed Bears drives or extended Queens drives. Usually you might hear an announcer say that once or twice at the most during a game.

      • nyb27

        Aside from watching Trubisky, the only other drama I could look forward to was to see if Chucky was going to go off on the refs.

        I get the refs have a job to do, but wow, they really ruined the entertainment value of this game. For all the talk going around about speeding up games and interest level, those questionable flags made the first half unwatchable if you weren’t a fan of these two teams.

  • FF notes.

    Yours truly is 5-0 and the point leader in Da League.

    Basically I’m the bizzarro Bears in FF. All the moves I think PACE should make in real life, I make in FF.
    It’s great catharsis and keeps me from doing this during Bears season.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPiDqZ-0q9k

    I know I’ve been bemoaing Ender, but his team is truly abnormal.

    He’s only 10 points behind me in scoring. But he’s 0-5. He’s lost like 3 games on MFN, including some truly incredible losses. Then, he hits 42 points this week lol Wow.

    Also, talk about tough breaks. Bears 505 lost BOTH David Johnson and ODB in the first 5 weeks. Yikes.
    He’s still 3-2 though, and def can still compete.

    Waffle seems content in going down in flames with MIA. Started off 0-2, now 2-3.

    Shady being Shady now 3-2 after 0-2 start trending the other way.

    Artoo and Sac slugged it out. Supes won. both 4-1

    Willie and Fres still alive, barely

    NBIT caught in a no-win situation. Ryan was on bye and Marriotta was hurt, but didn’t want to drop any in 2 QB league. He lost, and I wonder if this loss will kill his playoff chances now that he’s 1-4 with Cooper and Gronk killing his team.

    • CanadaBear

      What are the odds that the guy that started and runs the league is winning?

      • I didn’t win it all last year! Damn u Shady. Though I was 11-2.

        I also won one of Irish’s league, and Shady’s crazy points bonanza leagues a couple seasons back.

        I almost won Artoo’s writer Yahoo league. Went 11-1 or something in that league.

        In other words. I’m the anti-Bears in FF

        wooo!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy-LQH8N6Ug

        • CanadaBear

          I know you do well in FF (just sayin’), trying to give ya the gears a little. That shit would drive me crazy. Different strokes for sure!

          • haha, I know.

            After last night, now you may understand that it’s my coping mechanism.

            Some have booze, some smoke a joint, others just walk away and surf on the SD coast..I turn to FF…and poon. Poon also works.

          • Phillip MyCrevice

            “Hey baby, I bet you didn’t know that I traded for Alex Smith two weeks ago and now I am clocking it. Makes me sexy, doesn’t it?”

          • My Chief’s nipple clamps always close the deal.

  • BerwynBomber

    Da Coach gets political (and gets his ass handed to him by Steve Smith).

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20981484/mike-ditka-claims-no-oppression-last-100-year

    • Didn’t Walter Payton’s dad get killed by a cop?

      • willbest

        Just because you are killed by a cop, doesn’t mean you don’t deserve it.

        • I only vaguely recall the story. I just remember that he had some hemorrhage or something, and the cop thought he was drunk. Something happened. Cop killed him.
          The city was close to a race riot.

          Walter did not like talking about it much though.

          Nevertheless, Ditka’s assertion that no oppression existed in the past 100 years shows how completely ignorant he is.

          It wasn’t too long ago that an AF am could’t marry a white, or a minority buy a home in certain areas, or that mexicans could swim at the public pool only on Weds (they called them “wetback Wednesdays ” because the city would then drain the pool on thurs so the rest can stay pure and clean), or that Japenese were unconstitutionally imprisoned …or…a LOT of other shit.

      • willbest

        The official story is Edward Payton was found by a police officer in a drunken state and put in jail to sober up. He was found dead a couple hours later. The coroner found no alcohol in his body and that the cause of death was a cerebral hemorrhage. It is believed that the aneurism that caused the hemorrhage caused him to act like he was drunk.

        http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1986-01-24/sports/8601060888_1_columbia-town-prison

        “There is nothing else we can do,“ she says. “We didn`t have no grounds or nothing to go on.

        I interpret this as the lawyer said there was no exterior trauma found on his body. So at best you are going to have to argue that the officer should have known the difference between an internal brain bleed and intoxication, and got him help rather than throw him in the drunk tank. And you are unlikely to be able to make that claim.

        • willbest

          I might further add, that given the state of medical technology in small town Mississippi in 1979, he was almost certainly a dead man walking anyway.

    • CanadaBear

      I think the coach could use a trip through the Civil Rights Museum in Memphis.

  • willbest

    So my day after reflection is that Trubisky is raw, but he demonstrated why Pace drafted him, with a caveat. I wasn’t looking at the all-22 so I don’t know if Trubisky was missing open guys. I think I saw him do it a couple times but even Brady/Rodgers do that. Trubisky throws a beautiful ball, but 18 of 25 passes were to covered receivers. That is a recipe for picks. Especially when DC’s get the tape on him and dissect his mechanics.

    Our receivers are garbage. It didn’t matter that Trubisky could extend plays with his feet, they couldn’t get separation. Somebody said stick Bellamy out there. He can’t catch but at least he can get opened.

    I really miss a Forte. Not I miss Forte. I miss having a 3 down back. Howard is an amazing runner. But he is useless in obvious passing situations. And then we have cohen he is dynamic, but he isn’t blocking anybody.

    I don’t understand the purpose of having tight ends that aren’t going to use their size to push around DBs. What did Pace see in Simms that made him think “this guy is worth $4-5 million a year”. I think its safe to say that Pace is using some metric that the other 31 players don’t seem to think all that important. We end up finding people like Hicks on value, which seems like a huge miss to the rest of the league, but then we also end up with broken down vets, or guys like Wheaton or Glennon who shouldn’t be starters

    The play calling certainly didn’t help. Butch, and others, are right. We are too predictable. But unlike Gruden, I don’t think its boring. Its depressing. Birdcage has been around long enough to be more advanced than this. Watching the Chiefs or Pats operate is like I am watching a different sport.

    Our D is getting a lot better at the 3 and outs, but 3 turnovers in 5 games (counting the safety)? We don’t have the offense to win games like that.

    • SC Dave

      The presumption is that MT was ready for “more advanced”. My opinion is that he wasn’t.

      Let them get a couple of games together before getting too excited one way or the other.

  • Phillip MyCrevice

    Nancy Glennon must have removed her dentures and given Steve Smith Sr one helluva a hummer. Extra spit. Having slapped the shit outta Ditka, he turns to the whole bears org.

    He goes on the Twatter warpath claiming the Bears set up Mikey Glennon to fail:

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/steve-smith-bears-play-calling-set-up-glennon-to-fail-trubisky-to-succeed/

    Some of the shit is a joke, that Birdcage did not give Glennon good plays to run? Come on Steve.

    • willbest

      He didn’t give Trubisky good plays to run, I don’t know why he would have treated Glennon any better.

      • SC Dave

        I call bullshit. All the begging leading up to the game to get Mitch out of the pocket.

        So Loggains does it, and everyone bitches. People have to:
        1) stop getting caught holding
        2) *catch the ball*

  • willbest

    I have decided that the reason Hoyer played so well for the Bears last year, punching well above his weight class, is because Birdcage is the Brian Hoyer of OCs

    • Hoyer. 353yds. 2TDs. 0ints. 63% comp (on a 2 win team)
      Cargo. 92 yds. 1 TD. 1 Int. 46% comp (on a playoff caliber team)

      • willbest

        Is it a playoff caliber team?

        • They were last yr without Cutler.

        • BerwynBomber

          They were last season. They’re arguably lucky to be 2-2 given how poorly Cutler has played.

          • willbest

            Its not just Cutler though. Their run game is ranked 31st. Ajayj is averaging 3.4 YPC.

          • Funny how he was ripping off 200 yd games and avg 4.9/carry last season…without Cutler.

          • willbest

            I haven’t had a chance to see the game, but Landry is averaging 7 per
            reception. I am going to go out on a limb and say their O-line is
            shit. I mean Cutler holds on to it too long, but that should help yards per reception, not hurt it. Maybe his arm is
            completely gone, but your start WR shouldn’t have those kinds of numbers.

          • Landry avg 12.0 per catch last season… Without Cutler.

          • willbest

            Don’t see how that is relevant. Cutler doesn’t tell him where on the field to stand.

          • So suddenly everyone around Cutler became horrible?

          • willbest

            Remember what you said about o-lines taking time to gel? Or does that not apply to Cutler lead teams.

            Turns out the fins o-line situation is a bit of a mess. Larsen is out for 8 weeks with a torn bicep. The guy they thought who was going to fill in for him was waived injured. Pouncey missed a good chunk of camp for injury recovery. Jay has been on the team less than 2 months.

          • willbest

            oh right, and then they just lost their o-line coach who was higher than a kite.

          • Yes, they do take a while. They don’t take 5 weeks +

            And even IF you want to make out Cargo as a victim of circumstance (the standard Cargo defense), then how do you explain Hoyer outplaying him with practically the same personnel and coaches?

            Or Even McCown for that matter.

            Cutler will be benched by mid-season. Maybe even as soon as next week.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Pouncy is the Chris Chandler of Offensive linemen.

          • BerwynBomber

            Let it go. It is the Cutler Excuse Train. It. Will. Never. Stop. Running.

            Stops at Head Coach Fault Station, OC Fault Station, OLine Fault Station, WR Fault Station, RB Fault Station, Defense Fault Station, etc., etc., etc.

          • willbest

            I don’t give a shit if you think Cutler isn’t a good QB. He didn’t turn that team to shit though.

            Just like Trubisky didn’t magically elevate the Bears play like some people thought he would.

          • I find Cutler defending absolutely fascinating.

            In spite of empirical evidence, logic and common sense, they’re still out there.

            It’s like trying to talk a chick out of an abusive relationship.

            “He hit me…and it felt like a kiss…”

          • Fans shouting “We want more” when Cutler was on the field.
            Announcer, “Not MORE, Moore”

          • BerwynBomber

            Too early to count them out, though. CAR looked lucky to be 2-1 a couple of weeks and now they’re 4-1 and look like the NFC SB favorite.

            So if you can tread water while playing lousy that can be a good sign. And usually a sign of a good D.

          • treading water will not be good enough vs Pats or even Bills or Jets.

            I mean, talk about cuck-ball.

            3.5 per comp? lol I think Howard avgs more per run.
            92 yds passing to go with 1 Int?

            Holy fuck.

          • BerwynBomber

            Oh yeah, I believe Cutler has the lowest YPA in the entire league. And certainly the AFCE looks more competitive than anyone thought.

            But sometimes a team has exceptional good fortune for a year. And maybe that is MIA this year. SD pissed away the game against them. And then the week before you’re to host TEN, Mariota pulls a hammy and you get Cassell on the road..

          • SC Dave

            IMO, last season was the flukey one for Carolina.

            Can you imagine Benjamin, Funchess, and Olsen on yje Bears?

            Yeah, I know Greg is out, but those three are some weapons.

            Though I will say McCaffrey has been less than I expected.

          • Dickson didn’t look too shabby, SC.

          • SC Dave

            Cutler has had too many concussions. Should have stuck to the booth.

      • willbest

        oh and if we are cherrypicking week 2:

        Cargo 230 yds, 1 TD. 73% comp
        Hoyer 99 yds, 0 TD, 1 INT, 56% comp

        • Well, if you want to do comparable stats with less variables, we can look no futher than last season when Cutler was BENCHED for Hoyer till he got inj.

          2016

          Hoyer–TD-6—-INTs-0—Fumb-1—Comp%67—–SK-4——QBrat-98.0—QBR-65.2
          Cutler- TD-4—-INTs-5—Fumb-5—Comp%59.1—SK-17—-QBrat-78.1—QBR-27.8

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Butch, you really gonna stake a claim that Hoyer is going down as a better QB than Cutler? Cmon man. Yes, Cutler is done. Yes, last year he was done. But sweet Jesus. Hoyer will never be what Cutler was, which over a career, is an average professional QB. Hoyer will most likely bounce from team to team, without ever really establishing a long term gig anywhere. He’s not terrible, but his ceiling and Cutler’s will never be the same.

            And I’m one of your Cutler Agnostics. I got no skin in this game.

          • willbest

            Speculation. And still cherry-picking.

          • Of course it is because the stats don’t support your narrative.

            What more can you want? same amount of games, in same system, same coaches, same personnel.

            Unless you body switch them, as as comparable as you’re going to get. And results are in.

            SF signed Hoyer.
            NFL retired Cargo (until inj).

          • willbest

            Right so Cutler is saddled with force feeding White and having Langford as his RB for 2 games and injured, and that is a good baseline for when the brain trust stopped screwing around. And we know from this year and their keep Glennon on the field 2 games too long, that Fox would never, ever play favorites of any sort in his player personnel choices.

            Meanwhile hoyer has regressed back to form this year proving that last year was an aberration.

            You could have just rattled off this years stat lines for both of them. And its very likely Hoyer is going to be the better QB this year but

            Jay 176 YPG, 3 TD, 3 INT, 62% completion, 10 sacked

            Brian 242 YPG 4 TD, 4 INT, 59% completion, 15 sacked

            doesn’t really create that massive of a difference between them.

            And honestly, saying Hoyer is (at present) a better QB than Cutler isn’t all that controversial, but because you keep doing it with Hoyer’s dick up your ass, makes it ridiculous.

  • Sactowns#1

    So, Goodell goes full Rodger and comes out with an idiotic statement. Your thoughts?

    • willbest

      Isn’t it moot? Jerry has spoken, and word has come down from other NFL owners that their team stands.

    • BerwynBomber

      Pretty sure that Goodell’s politics dovetail with Trump’s. That said, I’m guessing this is more about business than politics.

    • Cormonster

      The league and the owners are racist. Aside from a Pakistani, a Greek, an Italian or two, and maybe a couple Jews, all the other owners are white people.

      • CanadaBear

        I think they are going to ship the Pakistani owner over to London. If they ever get a franchise over there I would think the Jags would be the most likely to move. Esp since they signed up to do a bunch of games there.

        • willbest

          Lot of Pakistanis in London though.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    The one play call that really pissed me off last night was the Fake screen only to throw a screen pass to the other side. If I remember correctly Trubs ended up rushed and threw the ball into the gut of a DLineman. I don’t see how that concept would ever work.

    • willbest

      Sometimes I have to remind myself I have a really expensive TV and hurling objects at it is not a wise decision. That was certainly one of those times.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    So our WRs can’t get separation. Are we calling plays that help them get separation? DBs are up on the line defending these guys, are they running any type of pick plays? Unfortunately we don’t get very good views on TV to analyse WR routes. Usually a comeback route is able to create separation, even out routes. Are the WRs not selling these routes well enough?

    • Nearly EVERY talking head, FF maven, studio analysts, ex-players, ex-gms, ex-coaches, radio, print, blog…has pretty much deemed the Bears having the worst WR corps, and it’s not even close.

      (Well, maybe the Gmen now with all those INJs, but they’re at least getting Shepard back)

      Granted, Glennon, a rook QB and Bridcage prolly doesn’t help, but I would wager that we would swap our WRs for ANY other team’s right now.

      • SC Dave

        Yup. Those guys are just not good.

        And we only have one guy injured, i.e. Cam

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I understand that. But no one says WHY they are the worst, I only hear they don’t get separation. I am more curious on what they are doing wrong. I am looking for answers. Does play call need to include ways to help create separation, ie picks, comebacks? Do they need to be coached better on how to sell routes? If they can’t identify what is wrong, there is no chance to make it better.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          It’s because they’re not good.

        • BearDown100393

          They
          Dont
          Catch
          The
          Ball

        • They’re bad for various reasons.

          Bellamy can separate but can’t catch
          The rest can’t separate and can catch, sometimes.
          None can go up and get a 50-50 ball since they’re all basically slot WRs.

          Separation in some ways can’t be coached.

          Like Bellamy has the same coaches the other JAGs do, going through the same training, routine…but he does seem to get open.

          That’s because he’s simply more athletic, and perhaps a superior route runner.

          Seperation for a WR doesn’t just require speed, but also agility (“oily hips”) and quickness to explode off the breaks.

          ODB was perhaps the best at this. He seemingly runs full speed through out his routes. JAG WRs telegraph their breaks, and the CBs anticipate the cut, so no seperation (or the WRs are so slow, they allow the CB to make up yds fast and smother them).

          So I don’t think it’s as much about coaching (remember, Cam did seperate and could actually catch) but these JAGs were trotting out are avg to below avg in every category.

          They’re not fast
          They’re not big
          They’re not great route runners
          They can’t seperate

          At least not on a consistent basis, which means Trub will have to throw pin-point dangerous balls

          Maybe Gentry or McBride become a thing, but so far, they’re not.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I broke down and got the NFL Game pass just get a better look at the routes. I just rewatched all the pass plays. And I am going to say it is not all on the WRs, even though they are not good.

            Play Calling:
            Not impressed at all.
            There were a lot of routes that just did not make sense, unless the WRs are just running the wrong routes. There were a couple plays 2 WRs on left ran go routes. Both WRs were close enough together that ONE DB could basically cover both. There were several plays where all routes stopped at the exact same depth – Trubs INT was one of these. Barely any routes down the seam which allows the safeties to easily cheat to one side or the other. No routes that used pick routes which would have helped in 2nd half when they were playing press coverage.

            Wide Receivers:
            Wheaton – does not make good breaks at all. nothing crisp. always rounded off. slipped several times. Slow off the snap
            Wright – seemed to be the only WR MINN took seriously. Still not best route runner. Rounding off routes instead of making a hard cut.
            McBride – decent breaks, overall barely average – Better than anything from Wheaton.
            Sims – Blah – poor hands. should not be on the field on pass plays.
            Miller – seems to have lost a step. Still gets a little separation.

            TURF:
            I saw a lot of slipping of WR coming out of breaks. Could explain why they all seem to round off their cuts. However DBs did not seem to have much problems with the turf.

            Minn Defense.
            1st half played off a lot. More Zone coverages.
            2nd half Man Press coverage

          • willbest

            Pretty sure Xavier Rhodes (and the rest of the Minny D) has more experience on Soldier Field than Wright, Simms, and Wheaton.

          • willbest

            oh and McBride

          • Good stuff, and more or less what I see.
            I was curious why they went away from Wright when he seemed to do well early.

            None of our WRs jump off the screen. I guess that’s the eyetest, esp when you turn on other games and watch real WRs. The gap is real.

            I wasn’t even really considering the TEs, but Miller did accelerate last yr, but if he lost a step, that’s major. He really is our only playmaker since he had great hands and ‘awareness’.

            I think him and Trub are still learning to dance together though.

            Sims is just a guy as far as I can tell. Kinda reminds me Matt Spaeth. A lumbering target there more for blocking, but I don’t even think he can block as well as Spaeth.

            Shaheen, who knows? Haven’t seen much of him.

            But he doesn’t look Graham athletic in spite of reports saying otherwise.

            He looks more like a boxout type with a wide catch radius. That can work too, as long as he shows great hands and body control , but jury’s still out on him.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Shaheen not playing more baffles me. Especially since he was reported to have the greatest rapport with Trubs all off season.

          • willbest

            I think we just notice Bellamy’s stone hands more because he is in fact open when the ball is thrown at him.

      • BerwynBomber

        I think Wright might win a spot on a few rosters beyond ours but yeah I have to imagine we have the worst receiving corps in the league. Or at least right near the bottom.

  • I pointed out months ago that this Bears team would resemble the 16 Rams.

    Rook QB who would sit but would eventually start. Bad HC trying to save his job. Defense getting wasted.

    Rams completely turned it around this year. Goff looks reborn.

    So, if Bears are going to continue that arch…

    The Rams hired Wade Phillips. In my eyes, the best DC in the game.

    This was a huge win for them.

    This allows a rook HC McVay to focus solely on developing his QB and O.

    How much so? Shoot, I’ve seen McVay drawing up plays with the O when the D is out. He’s sitting alone on some gatorade drawing up shit, looking at pics.

    He doesn’t even bother looking at the game when his D is on the field, that’s how much he trusts Wade (a former HC himself).

    So, we would first need that.

    Who would be the best DC available next yr?

    Any suggestion?

    The answer might very well be Fangio.

    He by no means is great like Wade, but he may be the best available.

    So, the next question, who is the new aggressive QB maven?

    Well, Will suggested Jim Bob Cooter, and he would likely be my first choice too.

    Any other QB whisperers in the line of McVay?

    Pat’s McDaniels may be on that list, but he seems a bit of a douche.
    Same with Steeler’s Haley

    Payton is off my list (but what if we keep Fangio?)

    You would think someone from the Andy Reid tree would be good, but can’t think of a protege.

    What if Arians becomes free again – an Arians/Fangio pairing?

    • AlbertInTucson

      Arians?

      1) Didn’t the Bears already muddy up the those waters?

      2) I’m not sure how healthy the guy is.

      3) Cardinals have had offensive line and special teams issues virtually ever
      year he of his tenure.

    • BerwynBomber

      Fangio seems a keeper and I don’t know if he is that tied to Fox. (Unlike Old Sauce when it came to Lovie.) But Fangio sure looks like a top 10 DC (if not higher) so it behooves us to keep him.

      That said, Fangio as the Rodgers Stopper was always a tad overrated. Said it a couple of years ago but his Rodgers record was as much about SF’s superior talent (at the time) and the Cheese’s inability to contain Kaepernick than anything else. (Rodgers, to his credit, played well against them, which is saying something given how badass those SF Ds were).

      • ButtonShoes

        If Fangio can’t stop Aaron Rodgers then I don’t want him. Whoever our DC ends up being has to put the fear of God into the Peckers.

        • willbest

          Fangio has a rather good track record against Rodgers. But you know that was back when he had more than 1 play maker on the defense.

          • BerwynBomber

            More than that. They had the second best D in the league those years — their front sevens were scary good those years. Plus, Kaepernick would average like 180 yards rushing against the Cheese.

      • evantonio

        Fangio comes from the Blache school of “sacks don’t matter.” Why would we want that?

    • willbest

      Cooter/Fangio/Toub is the dream team. Though whoever Fox found to run specials can stay. The unit looks solid this year.

  • VR Zucker

    Mrs Glennon please let Mikey know about this breaking story!

    https://boingboing.net/2017/10/03/back-orifice.html

  • AlbertInTucson

    DaBearsBlog‏ @dabearsblog:

    “Bears defense is ranked 6th in yards per game allowed.
    8th against the pass.
    12th against the run.”

    And dead last in the most telling defensive category: Takeaways.

    • BearDown100393

      Special Agent Peanut

    • willbest

      Bears are ranked 25th in points allowed.

      And really those other stats are a function of Foxball.

      Offense is averaging 15.6 ppg which ranks us 30th.

      Fun fact. Colts have allowed a league high 159 points. Second worst team? Its a tie between the Titans and the PATRIOTS at 142.

      • CanadaBear

        Their opponents have had a lot of short fields.

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      • 25th in points allowed, and dead last in takeaways are a deathknell (along with sputtering O and specials).

        Part of the ineptitude is Pace striking out in FA, but some blame must be attributed to Birdcage’s coaching and system.

  • ButtonShoes

    Is Jeff watching soccer again? Why? I struggle to understand why anyone would do that.

    • willbest

      He watches golf.

      • ButtonShoes

        Soccer and golf? Yikes. The last time I watched golf was when Tiger Woods was still amazing. Haven’t really paid it much attention since.

    • BearDown100393

      Some mysteries can never be solved.

  • D. Hester

    Don’t try to act like the loss isn’t on Mitch, because it totally is.
    This coming from a guy who was as happy as anyone that they made the move to start him, but now we can see why they didn’t do it earlier – the kid just wasn’t ready yet.
    With that loss, we’re 1-4 and the season is basically over…so now’s the time to let him learn and make mistakes.

    • Lower middle class critic

      Your opinion is valuable. Trublinowsky is a bum.

  • CanadaBear
    • From a few articles down.

      “Jordan Howard attacked the edge well and finished with 76 yards on 19
      carries, which are solid numbers given he faced eight or more defenders
      in the box on 52.6 percent of his runs, according to NFL Next Gen stats.
      But Tarik Cohen was rendered ineffective (six carries, 13 yards, one
      catch, minus-six yards) and danced too much instead of planting and
      cutting up field, which drags this grade down”.

  • Joecashflow

    D.d.d.dd.d.d.d.D.d.d.dd.d.d.d.d this just in …Tanner Gentry promoted from practice squad. HELL YES !!! Are you ready for some football ? !!

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