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Audibles From the Long Snapper: Positive Jahns, Around the League Thoughts & More!

| September 19th, 2017

Jahns Responds to Nightmare Loss

Here are three POSITIVE points Adam made in the Sun-Times:

4. The Bears missed linebacker Nick Kwiatkoski (four tackles on Bucs’ first drive). Christian Jones missed Jacquizz Rodgers in the backfield on his one-yard touchdown run.

Kwik looked terrific when this game began. He was firing at the line of scrimmage. And then, injury. Because it’s totally normal for a starter and his backup to both tear their pec muscles in consecutive weeks. Remarkable how many rosters are already being decimated just two weeks into the season.

8. Want a positive? Bears rookie safety Eddie Jackson was strong in run support. He’s made a concerted effort to improve his tackling.

9. One more positive? Bears nickel back Bryce Callahan rebounded from his tough Week 1 and nearly had two interceptions. He was active and very close to big plays.

Jackson, Callahan and Kyle Fuller are all playing at a solid level and I expect all three to improve as the season progresses.


5 Around the League Thoughts

Literally found my eyes wandering from the Bears game during the second half Sunday. So I saw quite a bit of the league.

(1) Dak Prescott is really a poor thrower of the football. I think he has enough intangibles to have a successful career in the league but that arm is never beating anyone from the pocket.

(2) Seattle and the Giants should be on the phone with Houston non-stop in an attempt to acquire left tackle Duane Brown. Brown is holding out, has told Texans he won’t report til after Week 7 and those clubs are simply desperate for OL help.

(3) How can the Saints just never get defense right? You’d think, by chance, they would stumble upon a few decent players. But that is one of the worst groups in the sport year-in-and-year out. After the first quarter yesterday, I thought Tom Brady was going to throw for 700 yards.

(4) Cam Newton should be a warning to Mitch Trubisky. It doesn’t matter how big and strong you are in the NFL. The human body can only take so many hits. Newton looks like a shell of himself.

(5) I am not sure the Packers are any good.


When I Would Have Fired John Fox


Quick Hits

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  • EnderWiggin

    Sunday has blowout potential.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I am thinking it is inevitable.

    • Johnnywad

      It does. And I’m giving Glennon less than 50/50 to see the end of the game. He’s going to get killed.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        Why will he get killed? The ball will be out in 1.8 seconds to the 4th option.

        • Johnnywad

          Because he’s slow of foot, poorly built, and blind in his right eye.

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            I’m itching to see the betting line on that game. I am taking out a HELOC to make the easiest 35% return in one day of all time.

          • Johnnywad

            The Raiders were -.900 Sunday against the Jets. I wouldn’t sign those papers just yet. I’m guessing the Steelers are going to be approaching that altitude.

            Can’t imagine taking a large risk in a two horse race for numbers like that. Lightning does strike on occasion.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Starting Glennon is a no-brainer this week. Look at it that way.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    5 thoughts from MT.
    1. even as a backup I am raking in the tail.
    2. Mike Glennon inspired me to draw motivational Giraffe pics.
    3. Dude Mike Glennon sucks balls.
    4. John Fox kind of looks like Bob Uecker.
    5. I love to kiss tittiess

    • BearDown100393

      Cade was better.

  • Scharfinator

    I like this article. The quick hits are nice too

  • King of DBB

    Everything I was saying about the cynicism of a corporate tool like Ryan Pace:

    https://www.sbnation.com/2017/9/19/16314082/nfl-ratings-colin-kaepernick-los-angeles-rams-owners-money

    MT is a tease, a tease to give you just enough product to keep you hooked on the drug. You are Bears junkies, oblivious to the facts that stare you in the face: your dealer is diluting the product so severely they are not only fucking you over to make more money for themselves, they are killing you and by proxy – the whole game.

    If the junkies all die, there is nobody left to sell to. Because the kids are smart enough to stay away from the product and not get hooked, because they see what it is and what it has become.

    And that – should be Jeff’s narrative on this blog.

    • Scharfinator

      Well the best news about all of this is that I haven’t given the Bears any money in years.

    • Johnnywad

      You ok GP? It’s just a football team.

      • King of DBB

        As Dale Cooper said, I am 100% awake.

        • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

          woke?

    • Irish Sweetness

      (nods)

      Yeah man. I”ll toke to that.

      (tokes to that)

      Buuuuut … we don’t need to start him against Pittsburgh, do we? Not this week.

      Springing him as a surprise introduction on drive 2 of the GB game against that single high safety they’ll show us .. that’s when to unleash the boy. When you fuck the Packers … there has to be a kink.

    • GP takes on Halas Hall!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3o-DZQFKB8

      Fight the power, GP.

      Fight the Powers that B!

      (cue the Chuck D!)

    • RedBulls83

      Pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Jay Cutler is an attractive option in FF this week. Think about that.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      I just watched the condensed Dolphins game. He was making bad ass throws and tons of shit that didn’t show up in the stats like 3 passes that Alshon would have snagged easily, a 30yd frozen rope complete but incredible play by the defender to force devantes Parker’s foot out of bounds to make it incomplete, 2 beautiful crossing routes dropped. Looking STRONG.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        His throws down field on Sunday would shrink Glennons ballsack.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Adam Hoge ✔ @AdamHoge
    Still can’t believe John Fox punted on 4th & 2 at his own 47 w/ 1:12 left in 1st half. Down 23-0, they had to score before halftime.

    Wow. Yeah.

    • ButtonShoes

      I can’t believe that he can’t believe that. When Fox did that, I wasn’t surprised at all. He’s always been that bad.

    • BearDown100393

      The coaching staff seems committed to purposeful losing but not being blown out completely.

      • Sactowns#1

        No they’re just love to play it safe like little bitches. Scared money don’t make money.

        • BearDown100393

          Playing it safe and starting Giraffe is conceding defeat.

  • King of DBB

    While I appreciate a Puerto Rican hottie that takes it up the ass, in this case Puerto Rico itself is getting fucked.

    Maybe it’s time for Trac to tell us the parable of the boiling seas.

  • SC Dave

    That was a pretty damn bad Hail Mary.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      he learned it from Hoyer last year.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      watch the condensed Dolphins/Chargers game and you’ll shake your head and know what it would have looked like with another year of Gase/Cutty. Dolphins fans are very optimistic.

      • SC Dave

        I’m thinking it was not a Hail Mary anyway.

        I’ll watch the film. But Miami’s receivers *have* to be better than the Bears.

  • SC Dave

    From BIggsy (emphasis mine):

    “Glennon playing poorly might expedite the timeline a little bit for Trubisky, but really, folks, this is about Trubisky. It’s not about Glennon. The Bears have made a huge investment in Trubisky — jobs hang in the balance with how he performs, lot of them — and they want to make sure they make all the right moves when it comes to preparing him for the role. I get the sense some believe he is close, maybe almost there. We’ll see what the powers that be have to say later in the week.”

    The most intelligent thing I’ve read on the whole situation.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      Exactly Dave,”jobs hang in the balance” so they’ll delay this as long as they can to keep their jobs. The best thing for their own jobs is to put him in only under near perfect conditions while the best thing for Trub’s development is getting real experience so next year is not his first.

      Seriously man, watch the Dolphins. It’s like watching the 2013 and 2015 Bears offense mixed together and combined with an above average D. Parker is no Alshon but you’ll love Ajayi.

      • Johnnywad

        You think what Glennon is doing is somehow saving Pace’s job?

        • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

          I don’t really know what he’s doing. You can’t run that offense and use the justifications of Glennon that people have been saying. They check down instantly, run 5 yd routes and run the ball.

          • Johnnywad

            Glennon blows. He’s terrible. But I can’t see the fact that Trubisky is on the bench is somehow a directive from Pace with the motivation being saving his job. It isn’t. Pace isn’t getting fired this year. No way. But Glennon being hot dog shit isn’t helping him. The more Glennon shits the bed, the dumber Pace looks.

            If he wants to keep his job, Trubisky MUST turn out to be good. We know Glennon sucks, but Trubisky is the guy he gave up the kingdom for. If he’s no good, Pace is gone. But he’s got a grace period here.

            I just don’t see any sort of conspiracy here when Ryan Pace is pretty secure in his position. It doesn’t make sense and it wouldn’t change any outcome.

          • BearDown100393

            The Bears won’t sellout 7 more home games with Giraffe starting.

          • bigrobstunner

            The stadium will be full of Steelers fans this week…. 🙁

          • Johnnywad

            True. I don’t think they’ll sell out ANY home games with Glennon starting. And that’s no good for Pace either. Glennon isn’t protecting Pace at all. Quite the opposite.

          • BearDown100393

            Play Mitch. The fan base energizes. Hope is contagious.

          • Irish Sweetness

            If we don’t have a roster by year’s end and go 4-12, why doesn’t Pace get fired.

            Again, the auto-pick option gets you Trubisky WITHOUT the trade.
            Shaheen was a clusterfuck of a pick in the second round, and I’m looking at a shitty defense with zero room for injuries. The jury is almost in.

            My first opinion of Pace’s hiring was “Look at that kid, he’s a KID.”
            The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and we’ve been eating shit for three years.

          • Johnnywad

            And then there’s reality.

            He’s two games into year three. So stop saying he’s had three years.

            His first draft was conducted with the assistance of Emerys scouts.

            He hasn’t even had a chance to hire a coach of his own choosing.

            Shaheen is a bust? Very few tight ends have great rookie seasons.

            He had nothing to start with. Building a brand new NFL roster doesn’t happen that fast.

            And no, auto pick doesn’t get you Trubisky. Auto pick most certainly would have taken a defender. And we’ll never know how many teams were prepared to move up to get him. You and I don’t know what would have happened. Let’s not forget Pace, and even Mitch, were openly booed for this. If the kid truly turns out to be a quality starter, do you really want the guy that stuck his balls on the table to get him, fired?

            You Irish folk have no patience.

          • BearDown100393

            I have seen enough of Giraffe after 8 quarters. There is nothing there. Bring in the kid.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            but i have been told he was ‘ok’ in game 1 this year.

          • ButtonShoes

            People are going to great lengths to rewrite the narrative of what happened during that game against the Falcons in favor of him. As if Glennon didn’t completely blow and get owned for 3 straight quarters, and then only managed to do something in the 4th when the Falcons eased up on him and basically went prevent, and even then he managed to still lose the game.

          • BearDown100393

            In regular season, the only acceptable competency exhibited by Giraffe has been against prevent defense during garbage time. When the game is already decided, Giraffe’s stats improve.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I can’t believe we have not had camera shots of him on the sideline. I want to see his facial expressions after throwing a pick or going 3 and out. People have made a huge deal about how past QBs looked on the sideline, why not now? I bet it’s a John Fox conspiracy.

          • BearDown100393
          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I want a real picture, not something photoshopped that looks like a Penis in a uniform.

          • BearDown100393

            Photoshopped?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Yes, why would you post a picture of a penis standing on the sideline. I want to see Glennon.

          • BearDown100393

            My bad. Hard to distinguish apart.

          • Scharfinator

            LoL

          • Irish Sweetness

            So Glennon dropped a catchable ball? I’m not defending him, but either Bellamy or Howard need to step up to the plate. Howard drops more balls than a motherfucker.

          • ButtonShoes

            Oh definitely, Howard deserves blame for not being able to catch a damn thing. But I don’t want to hear how Mike Glennon almost won it for us when he pretty much lost it for us over the first 3 quarters.

      • SC Dave

        I don’t leap that far, Johnny. Not being quite so cynical, I see it as what Biggs wrote – they want to be as sure as possible that when they put the kid in, he will succeed.

        I don’t think the Steelers game is the right place. Outdueling Aaron Rodgers on national television, on the other hand…

        • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

          but it’s not like Glennon is executing some outrageously complex Jon Gruden offense. Glennon is not out there risking his life every snap. There is no reason not to get some solid experience for the kid now doing exactly what Glennon is doing but also keeping D’s more honest, pushing down the field a little more, opening up the run game with the threat of the keeper, etc. Why not get him out there in some packages with Cohen and Shaheen to get them working together?

          • BearDown100393

            Giraffe’s playbook might be more limited than Trubisky’s simply due to talent discrepancy alone.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That’s the other thing – it’s a new offense for him. Cutty knew the playbook. Pace has fucked up Royally here.

          • SC Dave

            Because the oline is in disarray. If Kyle gets back, and Sitton is okay, I expect Trubisky will not be long thereafter.

          • BearDown100393

            Kyle Long was supposedly “really close” to returning and then does not even make the trip to Tampa. Counting on him returning in the near future is rather suspect at best, let alone assuming he will be effective. His time may be over.

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    • BearDown100393

      If he isnt already better than Giraffe and needs to be “protected”, then he wasn’t worth picking at the 2 spot and Pace should be fired.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He is better, and everyone knows and knew that, but whether that means you start him ASAP, when you’ve already told the world your plan ….

    • ButtonShoes

      It’s not intelligent at all. What Biggs is saying is ridiculous. This team isn’t very good. There’s not going to be a single moment where everything perfectly lines up for Trubisky to start in the best possible way. If he’s any good, he’ll have to make lemonade out of the lemons he’s given. And if Trubisky is the answer everyone says he is, then he will. And for that he needs to play. Right now.

      • Irish Sweetness

        No. Throw him to the wolves of Pittsburgh? GB maybe, we need to beat then just because.

        • ButtonShoes

          The Peckers aren’t going to be any easier than Pissburgh. If Trubisky’s the real deal, he can handle it.

    • CanadaBear

      Once they make the switch they will do almost anything not to go back to MG. That’s just the reality of the situation. Not to mention, Foxy is conservative as hell and will drag this out.

  • SC Dave

    Also from Biggsy:

    “10. The belt resembles the kind you see a heavyweight prize fighter hold above his head after a title bout. It’s big. It’s heavy. There’s a lot of gold. The belt was draped over the top of linebacker Nick Kwiatkoski’s locker this past week at Halas Hall. The belt is what is given to the top special teams point producer on a weekly basis. He had one big stick in the loss to the Falcons, drilling returner Andre Roberts. Much more than tackles go into the points system run by special teams coordinator Jeff Rodgers. Every facet of special teams is graded.”

    I know some of you don’t like Kwiat, but here is more evidence that the Bears value this dude. His loss hurts more than just losing our #3 ILB.

    • BearDown100393

      They might value him but it still doesnt mean he is any good. If anything it indicts the people responsible for rebuilding team depth.

      • Scharfinator

        Or the professionals know more about their profession than we know about it… But what do I know, I’m just an amateur. 😛

        • Irish Sweetness

          Not for one second should anyone think because a guy earns millions of dollars a year then it means he’s smarter than you. Football is not full of smart people.

          Fangio doesn’t understand the fundamental idea of defense, pressure, and he can stick his contract up his arse.

          • Scharfinator

            You misunderstand. I was not equating actual intelligence with professional knowledge.

      • SC Dave

        I don’t understand why you’ve judged him to be no good. Just what is your expertise?

        • BearDown100393

          9 wins during the Fox/Pace tenure. I might not know much. Agreed. But how much more do they really know?

          • SC Dave

            Fangio has been successful, and (at least prior to his tenure under Fox) was considered to be one of the better DCs around.

          • BearDown100393

            Yes he was.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            need good players to be successful.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Considered by whom? ‘Experts’? Are these the experts that get everything wrong every year about draft time, and then for the rest of the year?

            There is a *myth* that Fangio was successful. He was in charge of a top 5 defense? So? Had that got nothing to do with the quality of players underneath him? I’ve seen his football philosophy, and it sucks. Whoever considers him to be some kind of genius is a bullshitter who doesn’t know what they’re looking at.

            People made Buddy out to be a genius – he was far from it, and is directly responsible for the Miami loss in our ‘perfect season’ attempt. Those players would have wreaked havoc in an aggressive 4-3.

            Giving opposing offenses free rein as a DC … makes you a cock. End of. The numbers and results and general eyeball-tests have measured Vic Fangio and found him wanting.

        • belme

          That leaves 21 other positions which they obviously suck at.

          • SC Dave

            Get a grip.

          • belme

            I face reality. Numbers prove it.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Trevathan was lost in the passing game, before any injuries. Kwiat is a momo.

          Not too impressed with what’s in there now – they’ve ignored the position IMO.

    • ButtonShoes

      So what if they value him? The Bears value a lot of players that are objectively bad. Saying that the Bears value him doesn’t really mean anything as far as whether that player is good or not.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Ain’t that the truth. The Bears have thought well of a long string of cucks for the last thirty years. Could care less about what they think. Pace has been an MBA-thinking mirage.

    • He also had 4 tackles in 16 snaps before going out hurt against TB.

      • SC Dave

        Seems pretty good to me.

        • leftcoastdave

          Always did like his prospects.

      • A7Xthebest

        I honestly don’t even understand what the general hate for Kwiat is, he is a vital piece to their roster and someone who always shows up when he’s on the field.

    • CanadaBear

      I had nothing against the guy just thought he looked slow. Apparently he played well up until the injury. That sucks but at least it gives me hope he took the step.

  • Johnnywad

    Fans actually thought that was a true attempt at a Hail Mary? The lone receiver was completely covered with nowhere to go.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      LOL, besides, since when did people ever think there were any actual standards to throwing a hail mary? I mean, it’s basically throw the ball 60 yards and it could go short, overthrown, or on target, but it is always a chaotic scene. Plus, throwing the ball really high and far is not the same mechanic as throwing short and quick.

      The media is just missing making fun of Cutty, really ridiculous.

      • SC Dave

        Well, one would think it would at least be in the field of play 😛

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Like stated above, I don’t think he even tried. Guy was covered anyways. No compliments of Cutty throwing the ball away for once? Hehe

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            everyone is “covered” in a Hail Mary. It’s a jump ball play, so the point is to throw it into coverage, which is something Cutty likes to do.

          • Johnnywad

            You didn’t watch it did you? Don’t you lie to me.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            yes I did.

          • Irish Sweetness

            It clearly didn’t come out of his hand properly.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W43R73E3Xpk

  • Tortured Bear fan

    I think it´s time who is in charge of the strength and conditioning program at Halas Hall to answer some questions about WTH is happening for 2nd. year in a row.

    • Scharfinator

      Check the water supply, cafeteria, HVAC vents, turf type, etc. This is some shit.

      • Sahr Gborie

        lead in the water

      • BearDown100393

        MRSA. Like the Bucs a few seasons ago.

    • SC Dave

      I’ve been questioning that staff since the middle of 2015. I do not believe they are competent.

      Of course, if could be something more nefarious, like tanking.

      • Sahr Gborie

        2 years in a row?…for what?…you have the franchise (MT) already

        • evantonio

          Could really use a premiere gunner.

          • Sahr Gborie

            you don’t need to tank to get that

          • evantonio

            you do if you’re the smartest man in the room and want to get him in the first round before someone else trades up for him!

        • SC Dave

          Do we?

          And besides, we need our new HoF ILB.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I bet the strength and conditioning staff/doctors are swapping out the HGH and steroid shots with Vitamin B-12 shots or something, in a money saving/laundering scam.

        • SC Dave

          Money laundering… a whole new angle!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Chicago is known for its corruption, so why not.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I think it’s a Chicago sports thing. Maybe the conditioning guys are in COLUUUUUSION!!!

    • willbest

      3rd

  • belme

    Can they make a trade for the owners??? Until they’re gone, the team is doomed to fail. How long have the Bears been drafting ahead of all of the other teams in the division and most of the others in the league? Look at the results!!! Every Bear player of quality seems to dream of the day his contract will expire. If the ownership has no respect for the fans, it’s time to stop supporting them. Empty stands might be the answer.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      its going to be awhile before owners are gone. For your emotional health I would recommend changing your fandom. Try the Redskins or the 49ers, their owners seem competent.

      • BearDown100393

        Virginia will outlive both Snyder and Davis Jr.

      • belme

        I was born and raised a Bear fan. My father had season tickets at Wrigley field from the days of Luckman, Turner, and McAffee. Bear pride is something George’s family has blown to the wind.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Welcome Belme. Some of us still have it. W#e’ll get another Lombardi, but Ginny may have to throw a 7 first.

  • BearDown100393
  • BearDown100393
    • Read he’s a knuckle head.

      • willbest

        Do we have a lot of options?

        • If we’re going the knucklehead route, I’d rather wait for Gordon to get reinstated or give the Gmen a 6th for Bmarsh.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Jaguars Claim WR Jaelen Strong Off Waivers,

      • They need to claim a QB off waivers.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          can we trade them Glennon for Hurns?

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s their only receiver now.

  • Sactowns#1

    And just like that Big Trub is 2-0. 38 points from CJ Anderson?! I’ll take it!

    • Did not see CJ blowing up like that, fo sho.

      Ender has two bad losses thus far. He was actually the 2nd highest scorer this week. Naturally, you were first.

  • BearDown100393

    Pedo Coach just threw Eli under the bus.

    • He’s been doing that since last season, which is why I thought they were in the Trub sweepstakes.

      Eli has a sucky Oline, but some of his passes were really inaccurate, even without pressure (one lead to an INT)

      Then, in Eli fashion, he hits his WRs in the hands in crunch time, and they drop it.

      The Gmen should make Eli a closer. When they need a comeback, put him in, but only until then.

      • willbest

        Eli looks done, kudos to him for the last contract.

      • Johnnywad

        Speaking of O lines, how the hell are the Lions winning with a Tackle that gets penalties like nobody’s business? I’ve forgotten his name, but Gruden was killing the guy last night. False starts, Holding, a nearly constant barrage. That guy’s a liability and yet…..

        I hate it when the Lions win.

  • Quick hits react:

    “Jackson, Callahan and Kyle Fuller are all playing at a solid level”

    – Callahan doesn’t surprise me. His biggest issue was staying on the field. Jackson I had hope for based off his Bama tape. Fuller is the real surprise. Many thought he wouldn’t even be on the roster, yet alone doing well. How about The INJ formerly known as Prince?

    “Still can’t believe John Fox punted on 4th & 2 at his own 47 w/ 1:12
    left in 1st half. Down 23-0, they had to score before halftime.”

    – haha. One-dump-Fox shrinking like a shriveled 80 yr old penis in the arctic sea? You don’t say….

    “in a league where Mike Glennon’s getting $15 million/year, don’t see how Kaep isn’t worth a roster spot.” He’s not wrong.

    – We all know what’s going on here.

    • willbest

      Yes, kaep puts his personal crap before his team and his employer during his work day. I don’t know anyone but the nephew of the owner that gets away with that and stays employed

      • “personal crap”? ah, so you equate trying to shine a light on social injustice with coming into work drunk or something. Of course, you’re Will.

        You also always try to equate the NFL with some cubicle corporation.

        It’s not.

        A lot of workplaces fire employees on the spot if they get a DUI, domestic abuse, etc.

        NFL pays them MILLIONS.

        And Kaep is not caning his kids balls.

        • willbest

          Yes, because Kaep means well his distractions should be tolerated.

          And a lot of workplaces put up with drunkards because those fuckers can close deals like nobody’s business. Kaep is a midlevel employee. He doesn’t have the right to be a fuck up.

        • A7Xthebest

          He wore sox with pig-police, which while is within his rights and even humorous, it indicates the provocative attention-grabbing attitude of the entire thing.

          No one wants the face of their team to be anything like that; and that’s exactly what Kaeperdick becomes as soon as he arrives at your facility(Or at least one of the main faces).

    • SC Dave

      “We” don’t.

      My assumption is the one response I saw long ago, and that was along the lines of

      “It is odd people dont understand not hiring a guy that will lower ticket sales”.

      • willbest

        And that is hard for people that support Kaep’s world view to understand. Because only evil bigots don’t agree with Kaep.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Greg Gabriel was not thrilled with Bill Barnwell’s piece on Colin Kaepernick. Barnwell’s defense was solid: “in a league where Mike Glennon’s getting $15 million/year, don’t see how Kaep isn’t worth a roster spot.” He’s not wrong.

    Maybe Kaep prefers being a “Martyr.”

    • CanadaBear

      I think CK’s beliefs are genuine and he’s committed to them. Good for him. But don’t cry when nobody wants to hire you. We all know what happens when you buck the system. Totally sucks and it’s not right and … That’s all I got.

      • SC Dave

        Totally sucks and it’s not right and…

        … is just how reality works.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Ah, principles. As someone once told me – ye can’t ate the scenery.

  • 505Bears

    Oh snap…Bears released Gentry. I guess my tryout went better than I thought. Just waiting on my phone to ring….haha

    • Guess we gotta rename the Joe Anderson Boner Award…

      Might be a good move though, Might signal Bears are trying to make a trade for a real WR.

      Or might signal they’re calling up Timu from PS.

      Bears.

      • SC Dave

        Dont expect a real WR. Pace hates them.

    • SC Dave

      Really?

    • Irish Sweetness

      (spits out coffee)

  • EnderWiggin

    Tomlin called Glennon “statuesque”… https://sportsmockery.com/2017/09/mike-tomlin-just-showed-how-little-steelers-fear-mike-glennon/
    Fiftyberger incoming.
    Remember that game a couple seasons ago? We punted like nine times… We’ll break that record.

    • Nah. There’ll be a few TOs, so 9 punts not needed.

    • SC Dave

      I think we show better this week than last, but still lose.

  • SC Dave
  • Sahr Gborie

    Bears waiving wide receiver Tanner Gentry
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/09/19/bears-waiving-receiver-tanner-gentry/
    someone please explain why?

    • 505Bears

      My tryout went better than expected. I’m suiting up, boys! haha

    • WP4Life

      Probably get signed by patriots practice squad.

      • We’re going to try to stash him on ours. And I think we can offer more $.

        But of course, if you had the chance to take passes from Brady or Glennon/Trub/Sanchize….

        • Sahr Gborie

          we have no WR’s…why?

          • willbest

            They brought up a safety from the PS to the 53. I don’t know what that means.

      • Sahr Gborie

        i hate the bears management. they me me feel like im the stupid one when i know its them
        Giraffe Neck is the perfect example.

    • BearDown100393

      Because Pace is a genius and this is a smokescreen.

    • Because he’s not one of their best 3 WRs right now, which means his roster spot is based on ST. He picked up a dumbass, selfish ST penalty last week. He’ll go back to the PS for a while, which is fine.

      Simpler answer: Wheaton is ready to play again, and they need his roster spot for other positions.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I like Deonte, Markus and Kendall. That’s not a terrible 3. Mitch can put the ball in their hands. Except …

  • So I did some digging into Bears tendencies on offense through 2 games. It’s ugly.

    18 runs off ends, 17 off tackle or between the tackles. Of Cohen’s 12 runs, I believe only 1 has fallen in the latter category, which means basically Howard runs between the tackles and Cohen runs outside.

    90 dropbacks (5 sacks), only 5 deep shots and 0 QB scrambles. Which means all but 6% of pass attempts have been sacks or short passes. Since Glennon doesn’t scramble, the pass rushers have a fixed point to rush at (easiest possible job), and coverage only has to worry about first 15 yards. Removing both the scramble and deep ball threat makes the pass game way too predictable.

    Also, they’ve unsurprisingly sucked at getting to good 1st down situations. Only 4 3rd and shorts (1-2 yards) , 10 3rd and mediums (3-6 yards), and 13 3rd and longs (7+). Thus they’ve run only 2x on 3rd down, throwing on the other 25. Converting 12/27 in those circumstances (44%) is actually pretty solid, I expect that to plummet if they keep falling behind the sticks.

    • The immobile QB thing is a bit over-rated.

      Many QBs can overcome that IF they can recognize the Ds, make correct audibles, make decisive accurate passes. The best QBs usually just shuffle their feet to step up in the pocket.

      The problem like you said is that there’s no where to throw to because the Ds are crowding the short to intermediate routes, partially because no D is afraid of Wright going deep, partially because Glennon doesn’t throw it deep, partially because Birdcage does not call deep plays.

      What’s damaging the O the most is that they’re no longer getting those 4 yd runs, esp on the stretch plays.

      It’s either because the interior (which usually pulls) is decimated, or because of 8 in the box, or the Ds have figured out to make the Bears keep it between the OTs (or all of the above).

      Dunno the solution to any of this.

      • SC Dave

        Peyton Manning being the absolute master of the tiny shift in the pocket.

        If Glennon had even a third the pocket presence, he’d be so much better. But I am not holding my breath.

        • And our Oline is still predicated on that Saints Oline philo of great OGs keeping the inside pocket clean to step into.

          The interior being decimated is the WORST for a pocket QB.

          Means he can’t step up; Glennon’s not about to run outside the OTs to stretch a play.

          If that inside pocket collapses, certain doom. Just look at Eli last night.

          • SC Dave

            Exactly. Losing Long and Sitton means Whitehair not playing where he belongs and the middle three, which were awesome early last season, is now weak.

    • EnderWiggin

      90 dropbacks. ZERO scrambles? Ho-ly sheet.

    • willbest

      When it was 4th and goal against the Falcons from the 6 yard line, I thought their best option would have been to run it.

  • willbest

    “Now that all Glennon defenders have shot themselves, we’re down to only
    “playing Trubisky would be bad for him” arguments. Also wrong.” – Jeff

    Glennon defenders didn’t shoot themselves. He demonstrated an inability to run a simple offense, and validated the claim that the only reason he even looked half way decent was because he had two exceptionally talented WRs he was throwing at. Further, he demonstrated his 2:1 TD:INT ratio wasn’t an accurate representation of his capabilities.

    I am glad you just “knew” it from the beginning, but considering the Bears paid him $18 million, a lot of supposedly smart people came to a different decision.

    I am also glad that you “know” Trubisky is the shizzle, but I might point out that the same brain trust that evaluated Glennon and found something worth pursuing, also decided Trubisky was the best QB in the draft.

    • BearDown100393

      Yippee Kayah Jeff was right about Giraffe! Rejoice! 0-2 with Steelers in town! And more Giraffe! Hooray!

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      It was not hard to “know” the limitations of Glennon from the beginning. It’s called watching game film of his time in TB. Granted he sat the bench a couple years, which for some people means he magically learned and became a better QB without the gaining any actual playing experience.

      Also no one can really “know” Trubisky is the shizzle, but he was taken high in the 1st round so it would be better to find out in real games sooner rather than later if he is capable of handling the O, and is capable of learning from his mistakes. The thing you want to see is that he is able to make somewhat consistent progress through the season while playing, not sitting on a bench.

    • “playing Trubisky would be bad for him” was always part of the argument.

      Ideally, you drill good habits into him from the sidelines, and when they become 2nd nature, then start him.

      They don’t just send soliders straight to war.

      The whole point of boot camp is to ingrain those habits, hone those instincts, refine those mechanics, so when the first bomb goes off, they don’t throw their M-16 at the vietcong.

      But with Glennon’s last performance, that training is going to have to be sped up.

      Let’s just hope his instincts are naturally good.

      • SC Dave

        I always thought to goal of boot camp was to destroy individuality, so the soldier could be reshaped as part of the unit. Granted, with physical conditioning and skill building on the side.

        But never having DONE it, I don’t know shit. I forget… did you serve, Butch?

      • BearDown100393

        What crap army drilled Giraffe? France?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Who in the name of all that is holy, on this board, thought that Glennon was a better choice?

      We KNOW Mitchell is better … but that doesn’t mean we have to whinge every single day that it’s so. They paid Gummo the money, so we understand he gets to start. That’s business in the NFL.
      Doesn’t make us “Glennon defenders”. The guy was 5-13 as a starter before we got him, I was curious to see what Pace saw in him. Pace doesn’t see anything, I do not trust his evaluations. Blind squirrels and their nuts ….

  • “But man, this Steelers D faced no downfield threat in passing game in
    either of first 2 games. And won’t Sunday. But they’re vulnerable.”

    I sorta agree. The Steelers BARELY beat the hapless Browns with Kizer making his first start.
    And they didn’t look all that great last week vs Keenum.

    That being said, nothing like the Bears to catapult a team into SB shape.

    • SC Dave

      Fuck it, we’re tying those bitches!!

      0-15-1

      • Johnnywad

        Our roster can ill afford a 5th quarter. Think how many players THAT would send to IR.

    • Johnnywad

      Their tight ends will get contract extensions next week

    • Irish Sweetness

      Cleveland might not be terrible.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Bears promote S DeAndre Houston-Carson from practice squad.

    • haha. Bears.

      Maybe he can catch.

      • SC Dave

        Pace’s secret weapon!!

    • SC Dave

      Special teams replacement for Kwiat is my bet.

    • Irish Sweetness

      (face-palm)

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Eli Manning doesn’t seem to like Marshall, maybe we can trade for him again to help our WR group.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      Didn’t Pace/Fox cut Marshall?

      • SC Dave

        I’d take him back in a New York minute, whatever the fuck that means.

        We’re already hurting with Alshon not blocking for Howard and Cohen.

        And Brandon was a better blocker than Jeffery.

        • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

          skinny minute

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        they traded him.

        • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

          hmmm, part of me thinks that Marshall is not a guy that forgets.

          • Johnnywad

            Depends on which one of his personalities you’re dealing with.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            play to his ego. Sorry Brandon we made a HUGE mistake trading you, can you ever forgive us? We will do everything possible to satisfy all the voices in your crazy nut job head.

          • SC Dave

            Wow. I had no idea you were so unsympathetic of the plight of the mentally ill.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            it was a joke.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I was afraid to mention it – he’s probably in good shape. Why not? He’s not young, but he’s a number one.

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    I think it would only be fitting if we earned the first pick in the draft and Pace already had sold the farm for Trub. We’d fuck it up and select a D tackle with back issues.

    Pace would go down in history if he picked Darnold with the 1st pick.

    • SC Dave

      Or a WR with no legs…

      … oh wait.

    • SC Dave

      Or an OT with no knees… or…

    • SC Dave

      … oh god…. make me stop!

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I am hoping for a crappy running back.

    • willbest

      If we somehow end up with #1, Pace has two options.
      1) Take Darnold and Sell Trubisky
      2) Sell Darnold for 3 firsts, 2 seconds, and a 3rd. Assuming one of the firsts is still in the top 10.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        gotta sell and you gotta commit to the action. Teams will cream for that pick and you have to be ready to pick the guy and not just wheel and deal before the pick.
        I looked at the schedule and I honestly see us winning 0 games this year.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I have not experienced Mr. Darnold. But Trubs plus three first round picks, we can work with that. Spend them all on the OL and DL.

        • Darnold is the most sure thing since Luck out of Stanford. And Luck was the most sure thing since Elway out of Stanford.

          I retract my doubt about Luck. Holy shit, that team is a playoff contender with him, and a 0-win team w-out. Yikes.

    • #1 overall, TE, converted power-forward

      https://jaysjerseyblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/byufl.jpg

      (btw, I literally typed “whitest football college player” and the googles outputed that)

    • evantonio

      UNLESS Glennon/Trubs was the ultimate smokescreen for Darnold.

    • Corporal Clott

      Why Yonny, you’re brilliant! Maybe the plan was to have Trubs as Darnell’s backup the whole time. Wink wink. This can only mean one thing, 0-16!

  • Timmons doooon’t care

    Can we trade for him while he’s suspended?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/09/19/dolphins-suspend-lawrence-timmons-indefinitely/#comments

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    I find it a little interesting that neither the Rams or Chargers sold out their Home games in L.A. The Chargers could not even sell out a 27000 seat stadium.

    • Johnnywad

      Would you go to a Chargers game?

      • Big Mike

        They are a pretty solid club. Cursed in some ways.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Last year it was “Whoops, there goes a 4th quarter lead”.

          So far this season it’s been “Missed it by THAT much!”

    • Sactowns#1

      It really makes you wonder why these teams relocate in the first place. It’s almost like they’re looking to rip off a new town every few years like a billionaire version of Harold Hill.

      • SC Dave

        Did you read the article GP posted? Explains it all.

    • BearDown100393

      LA hates NFL football.

  • Sactowns#1

    “Release Mike Glennon” Exactly! Bring in Kaep or some other reasonable backup.

    • EnderWiggin

      Sanchez?

    • Irish Sweetness

      I put it to the board … Ryan Pace fucked up releasing Cutty. Yay or nay.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        Yes but no
        Or should I say no but yes

      • CanadaBear

        Again, year 9 of the Cutty regime was a non-starter.

  • Big Mike

    I’m convinced that the draft is more popular than actual football on the DBB comment section

    There are no conspiracy theories, Pace did not all of a sudden get stupid. Playing Trubisky, this week, next week, or week 8 is of no importance to the rebuild. Bears still end up with 6-8 wins this year, like most predicted. Depending on how they finish, Fox is either gone or not on Black Monday. Nothing that has happened in the first two games has altered the plan.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      Sorry Mike, based on the O they’re running there is no reason not to be getting the talented QB the reps. Learning on the job is the best way to learn.

      • Johnnywad

        Pittsburgh is only like -350. I smell something VERY fishy here.

      • Big Mike

        Just a point of clarification. Trubisky is getting a tremendous number of reps as the backup running the scout team against our defense. 1-3, 0-4 was always a possibility the way this schedule shook out. I’m on record saying the bears could be 2-6 and then go 6-2. Didn’t anticipate being down to the JV wide receivers by week 2. Didn’t anticipate 2 pec injuries to two ILBs, or being down to our 4th and 5th OGs. Yeah, they stunk up the place last week. The lack of effort, preparation and QB play was miserable.

        I’m thinking they beat Pittsburgh.

        I’m tired of the Glennon is the source of everything terrible and Trubisky needs to play now discussion. It’s too frustrating.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Against Atlanta, I was somewhat encouraged and willing to be patient.

      Sunday was extremely DIScouraging, compounded by the lame post-game attempt at “Glennon damage control” by Fox.

      Trubisky can/will throw those same INTs as part of the learning process but at least he presents a downfield threat, even with pedestrian wideouts and, BTW, a reason to bother watching the Bears.

    • willbest

      My issue is the average life of an NFL player is 3 years. And long term contracts, except for elite talent are 4 year deals. Here are the list of players that won’t be Bears after 2018

      Massie, Young, Freeman, Sitton, Grasu, Kush. Plus Long is injured to hell. We are basically looking at a full O-line rebuild before our Lombardi trophy run, and that is assuming MT is the real deal. Nevermind not having answers to the who are our DB’s 3 years in, and watching out ILB’s rapidly decline and not having WRs to speak of.

      • OGs I’m not too worried about. Bears seem to have a good track record there. Slauson, Long, Sitton, Whitehair (moved to C), Kush, and even Larsen was servicable. Can always draft a stocky white OG from Wisc in the 4rth and be OK.

        We have a decent (and durable) LT. A 10yr starter in Whitehair at C (if left there). And I think Massie will be re-signed, and if not, Pace will upgrade it. He was looking this offseason to sign that RT from the Ravens.

        Oline seems to be a priority for Pace, more than any other unit. Might be because he knew he was drafting a franchise QB.

        The skill position I’m more worried about because Pace neglects those.

        Maybe he offered Alshon a great deal and Alshon refused. Doesn’t mean there weren’t other WRs available (Pryor, Garcon, etc)

        CB even if Fuller miraculous pans out, still need another. Again, Pace had a chance two offseasons to sign a good CB, but instead decided to gamble on INJ formerely known as Prince and a bunch of other “mehs?”

        He also seems to go cheap on the Dline, and we desperately need depth there.

        I don’t think we’re too far off. Pace just has to hit on his draft and FA choices big time in order for the true Trub window to open.

        • Irish Sweetness

          We could get the OT in round one, but Pace ….

          • Johnnywad

            Yes. Or a pass rusher, or a killer linebacker, or a great safety, or a quarterback………

            There were so many holes to fill. And only one first rounder a year.

          • The great thing about sucking is that we can truly go BPA. Yay!

            Outside of QB, TE, we can pretty much draft any other position in the top #5 and it will be a need.

      • Malice Halice

        Can’t forget we need a whole new Front Office staff as well.

      • Irish Sweetness

        It’s already three years into the rebuild, so they’ve basically failed at putting the roster together. Again, Trubs could have been auto-picked. Pace has failed to put any depth out there.

        • willbest

          In fairness to Pace he had to build 53 from basically scratch. There are what 6 people left from the Emery era? The problem though is that he doesn’t seem particularly good at finding talent that can stay healthy. Its like Bears medical is behind the times in evaluating player health or something.

    • BearDown100393

      6-8 wins?! Don’t talk about 6-8 wins! Are you kidding me? 6-8 wins?! I’m just hoping we can win a game!

      • willbest

        Wasn’t your whole schtick the last couple years that the Bears were going to go 16-0, 15-1, can’t go 14-2 without losing the two?

        This is downright bleak for you. I think you might need that suicide hotline number HBP is always posting

        • BearDown100393

          Something inside died. Gone, gone, gone.

          • BerwynBomber

            Cutty …

          • BearDown100393

            RIP

      • Big Mike

        It will happen

        Get Outlook for iOS

        • CanadaBear

          I’m sticking with 5 wins for now.

  • EnderWiggin

    I just put my $1 on the waiver wire for 505!

  • SC Dave

    Had not watched the Atlanta game until just now.

    To me the most disappointing thing of all was the interceptions the Bears SHOULD have had on the first two plays after Cohen’s TD. Ryan gave us the ball, TWICE, but we didn’t want it.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Safeties, brother. For so long now, it’s just not been happening.

  • CanadaBear

    Steelers are -7.5 @ Soldier Field on Sunday.

    • willbest

      Not sweet enough. I would probably want 2 TDs before I consider the bears

      • CanadaBear

        I’d want more than that.

  • CanadaBear

    Read where Peanut is trying to get into the FBI. Man those paychecks would be disappointing.

    • BerwynBomber

      Did Fox axe him?

      • CanadaBear

        ? I was just commenting how small those FBI checks would be compared to his old job.

    • ButtonShoes

      Peanut, the FBI agent. Goddamn, that dude is a fucking man.

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  • belme

    I know the game was lost, but why in the final minutes did the Bears run out the clock instead of trying to score another TD as a matter of pride? In my estimation Fox is a goner and rightfully so! Beside the turnovers, the stupid penalties that kill them show a lack of discipline shic falls directly on the shoulders of the coach.

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