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Audibles From the Long Snapper: Biggs, Jahns & Moon on Mitch & More!

| October 17th, 2017

BIGGS ON TRUBISKY TOUCHDOWN

It was a terrific play by Trubisky but the rookie QB actually made it more difficult than it needed to be. I noticed this live and Brad Biggs made the sixth of his ten things:

6. Dion Sims’ 27-yard touchdown came on a nice play by Mitch Trubisky, who was getting hit as he delivered the ball and didn’t see the touchdown. Sims was uncovered off the line of scrimmage. The Ravens had some pre-snap confusion and that allowed Sims to release from the line and head downfield with no one on him. Strong safety Tony Jefferson was late arriving and it was a really good play for the Bears. It’s nice to see Sims making some plays downfield and after some dropped passes in previous weeks, he needs to step up with plays like that. Trubisky said he took a while to get to Sims because it wasn’t his first read. I’m interested to see this again on the All-22 tape, but live I thought Sims was open immediately and if that’s the case, the quarterback needs to sense that immediately. Especially in this case as the Bears were facing third-and-7 and the goal was to move the chains and avoid having to attempt a field goal.

It’s all about experience. But it doesn’t necessarily help the rookie’s development when he’s only dropping back to pass on obvious passing downs, twenty times a game.


Jahns on That Very Topic

In the new AJ After Dark piece in the Sun-Times, three things to note.

  • Adam emphasizes this offensive approach is coming from Fox, not Loggains. Independently, I have confirmed that. Because this is not the way Loggains wants to use Trubisky.
  • Jahns argues the Bears need to let the kid do more.
  • Quotes from Bears players re: Trubisky should get every fan excited. Here’s a passage from the piece:

Coach John Fox’s game plan — not offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains’ — became more apparent with every handoff.

Fox wanted Trubisky to manage his first start on the road. Trubisky, though, did one better — he managed to win it.

When the Bears finally needed Trubisky to be special, he was. On the move, he delivered an 18-yard completion to receiver Kendall Wright over the middle on a third-and-11 play from the Ravens’ 41-yard line in overtime.

Being on the road in overtime — Trubisky called it a “hostile environment” — didn’t overwhelm him. It was a big-time throw from Trubisky after his role was purposely kept small in regulation.

“At the end of the game, we were all dead tired,” guard Kyle Long said. “Mitch is the one picking us up, making sure we get the gusto to finish.”


At Least the Bears Recognize This…


Howard & Trubisky in Overtime


Links!


Around the League Thoughts

(1) Chandler Jones and Akiem Hicks have 11 sacks through 6 weeks. The Patriots have 14 total. Bill Belichick, personnel man, is overrated.

(2) Austin Seferian-Jenkins scored a touchdown in the Jets/Pats game. The fact that we don’t know what touchdowns are any longer is another thing hurting the sport.

(3) The Saints scored 52 points. Drew Brees had 186 passing yards. When is the last time a team scored 50+ points and didn’t throw for 200 yards? (Side note: Ignore Stafford’s big production numbers in this game. He was awful until deep into garbage time.)

(4) Denver has arguably the best rush defense in the league. Giants have arguably the worst rush offense, and lost all of their receiving weapons the previous week. So of course Orleans Darkwa went 21-for-117, a 5.6 yards per carry average. This league just doesn’t make sense sometimes.

(5) Atlanta got bailed out in Week One by Chicago’s quarterback and pass catchers. They got a gift at the death of the Detroit game, when Golden Tate thought he’d beat them. The Falcons are THIS CLOSE to being a one-win team. I don’t think they’re getting to January.

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  • That Guy

    First to say the Trubisky Era is a lot better than the Glennon Extinction.

    Because at the very least, we get to talk about the development of a young talent, rather than going “is mediocrity the ceiling for our ‘veteran’ QB?”

    • Cuck Cooper

      I think Jeff beat you to it.

  • Irish Sweetness

    If Fox is the architect of that game-plan … then wow.

    Is he that pissed they drafted him behind his back that he wants to hamstring the kid?

    • Cuck Cooper

      I know nuttin!

      Here’s to hoping the Bears win back to back for the first time since 2015.

    • Bears-4-Ever

      “Is he that pissed they drafted him behind his back that he wants to hamstring the kid?”

      If this is even close to being true then Fox should be looking for a job sometime this AM.

      • leftcoastdave

        A silly notion if ever I heard one.

        Fox wants Mitchell to excel and is being careful about learning him up one step at a time. Having Jordan Howard certainly helps as should his TE targets when he starts to connect with them. I get the feeling we will soon be seeing more of Shaheen in that regard as well as more quick throws on first down out of play action.

        • Bender McLugh

          hope you are right about Shaheen. Unleash the Kraaken!

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Here’s what I find odd about the reports that Fox did not know about drafting MT. Pace, Fox, and others were super secret when going to NC to work him out before the draft. So he had to have had an inkling that drafting MT was a possibility.

      • CanadaBear

        If Foxy thought about it at all he should have known they were going QB. If any part of this story is true I’m guessing they didn’t tell him they were drafting MT until late in the process because he’s Chatty Cathy.

    • Bear Instincts

      I don’t think Fox is pissed. Fox is a run first coach. He likes to control the game and his way of controlling the game is to run the ball along with a bully defense. Because Fox has those two things all he requires is for the QB not to make mistakes. The only time that did not happen was when Manning was under center for him.

      • You may be right. We really pounded the rock well, even against 8 and 9 man fronts. That means our Defense is rested and that helps you get turnovers.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    I just did a quick review of our QB/WRs play on pass plays. Surprise, by NFL standards, they are getting open . MT needs to trust his arm and make some plays, this isn’t college anymore and WRs aren’t going to be open by yards at a time. There will be tight windows, he will need to step up and make the throws eventually.

    One thing I noticed, and several have mentioned it, is that MT seems slow through his progressions. It appears that he tends to linger on his first read a little too long. Even with the slow reads he is making good decisions.

    Tanner Gentry was able to get a step on his guy a couple times. MT saw it once in the 2nd Quarter and just overthrew the ball, which was not the only overthrown pass he had. When given the opportunity MT was looking to make bigger plays. WRs still need to work on their cuts, but it was vastly improved from last week.

    Many on here have debated play calling the last couple days. I am on the side of it being too predictable. However, the reliance on the run concerns me. Not in the sense that it can’t win us games, but in the sense that when we eventually get into situations where we are down and we are forced to throw, the QB is not in rhythm. The run/pass breakdown needs to be a bit more balanced than 70/30

    • Cuck Cooper

      The run/pass ratio doesn’t bother me if it’s working. What does bother me is when other teams make their adjustments at half time and the Bears never seem to be able to.

    • Big Mike

      Watch again. I think you will find that he is slow on his progressions when he is under center. I didn’t track each occurrence, but I noticed on several instances watching live. He’s having a hard time keeping his eyes downfield and drop back.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Just did a quick review again, and I am not sure what you were watching. Unless I missed something, by my count Trubs passed 8 times from under center.

        5 were Play Action
        1 TD to Sims
        1 he ended up scrambling for 19 yards – this is the only one that might prove your point.
        1 incomplete to Sims he was open and overthrew it.

        All his other passes were from shotgun.

        • Big Mike

          Could have been the scramble and the progression on incompletion to sims.

    • leftcoastdave

      Clockwork Orange comes to mind. The staff must be feeding Mitchell hours of tape on a daily basis so that he can see what he didn’t in real time.

      Got to believe there will be more throwing out of play action on first down and more use of our TEs.

  • BearDown100393

    Mitch won his first NFL game on the road.

    Good enough!

  • CanadaBear

    I watched a lot of the Loins/Aints game. Stafford truly was awful. Everything I’ve read, he’s beat to hell right now. What a shame!

    • BerwynBomber

      Yes, I’m sure you have a box of Kleenex near your side and you’ve penned that Get Well card to Rodgers.

      • CanadaBear

        That play where he grabbed DJ Moore by the helmet and spun him around still pisses me off. Not that he did it but that he got away with it when it was so blatant. He was still the Fat Lezbo back then so he must have out weighed Moore by 50 lbs.

        • BerwynBomber

          Funny, that play is always mentioned on here but I honestly missed it. But I do remember some of Suh’s shenanigans. And hell even last year Jerry Seeman appeared to be getting paid by DET during one of the Barkley games.

    • BerwynBomber

      Btw, the Saints D has played reasonably well the last three games. That, along with the play of NYJ, may count as the biggest surprise of the season thus far.

      The Aints? Playing some D??? Weird …

      • CanadaBear

        Totally agree. The game Sunday was in NO. I don’t follow them at all but they used to be Jekyll and Hyde when it came to home vs road.

        • BerwynBomber

          Well, they’ve looked reasonably effective against MIA, CAR and a very banged up DET O. So perspective is in order. Still, in past years, even those teams wouldn’t run up the score on them.

  • BerwynBomber

    “But it doesn’t necessarily help the rookie’s development when he’s only dropping back to pass on obvious passing downs, twenty times a game.”

    Why do I think this whine will continue for the remainder of the season? It reminds me when, years back, a good portion of Bears fan were calling for Martz’s head because of the pass/run imbalance (yet back then masses were bitching we weren’t running enough) and good many suggested Martz should be fired and replaced with Tice. And then were glad when that brainstorm wish became a reality.

    Bisky is rookie with only one year of major college experience under his belt. I”m guessing the training wheels approach is for good reason — because of his past, because of what he grasps in the QB room, because of what they see in practice, game tape, etc.

    R-berger had one of the best rookie seasons ever. Do you know how many times he chucked it 30 times in a game that year? I’m guess a big fat zero. And he seemed to develop just fine.

    We have a pound it, smashmouth elite RB. We have an above average line. Our receiving corp sucks. Our D is young and promising.

    So my question would be: why wouldn’t we want to go the conservative, ball control approach?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Who in the hell was wanting Tice to replace Martz? That was a long time ago but I am pretty sure no one wanted that, even Lovie.

      • BerwynBomber

        I heard it often on the two CHI sports radio stations at the time — Score and ESPN 1000. In fact, seemed a consensus among the listeners.

        And what do you mean no one wanted it? That makes no sense. It fucking happened.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          They got him by default. No one else wanted to come in because it was basically a lame duck year for Lovie, since it was assumed he would be fired with the hiring of the new GM.

          • BerwynBomber

            So? I stand by my assertion. A consensus of fans wanted Martz replaced with Tice. Why? Because Tice held the promise of ground-and-pound commitment. And for some, Cutler hated Martz, which was reason #2.

            And yes we can all chuckle at Score or ESPN listeners but they represent a much
            bigger sample size of Bears fans than Jeff’s blog. If you heard differently, let me know.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I don’t listen to the Score or ESPN so I will take your word for it, but I can’t think of anyone that had Tice in the top 10 choices for OC at the time.

          • BerwynBomber

            No worries. I don’t listen to either anymore. Actually haven’t listened to ESPN 1000 since the Mac, Jurko and Harry days, and gave up the Score the last year.

            Liked their Speigel and Parkins program but since the Score landed their Cubs contract that program basically became a four hour postgame after every Cubs game.

          • CanadaBear

            I think you both have a point. Tice was the OC by default but people were talking about promoting him just to get rid of Martz. Martz has forgotten more about that side of the ball than Tice ever knew but Martz believed in his outdated system to a fault. The problem was he was getting Cutler killed.

          • willbest

            Well that was on Angelo for missing on so many tackles.

            They didn’t really need to get rid of Martz, he was only signed for 2 years. They just opted to try something different. Of course, by bringing in Emery they basically created a situation where nobody would want to come be the OC.

          • Martz was a last resort OC cuz like you said, Lovie was seen as a lameduck.

            So Tice was a left over of a left over.

            Like a copy of a copy, or like getting sloppy 3rds.

      • Bender McLugh

        it was more about getting Martz out and anyone else in. I voted to bring back Shooooooop

    • Cooper

      It’s frustrating to see a stacked box and a run blitz and we hand it off anyway because Tr00b hasn’t been given the green light to audible out.

      And so runs just as often get stuffed as they bust out for 20-50 yrds.

      I get that it’s a strategy. It will cut 2 years off of Howard’s career but he’s a bruiser back anyway. I would like to see SOMETHING that takes advantage of PA that is just SITTING THERE.

      If you don’t trust the kid to audible, then give him RPO plays. Let him decide to hand the rock off or pull it back and scoot out. Those should be getting designed in so we can at least SOMETIMES get the fucking safeties out of the box.

      • BerwynBomber

        I think the run-option stuff complaint is valid. Butch has said the same. And that I get. From what I understand it is only a single read and rather simple.

        The audibles? Not so much. Well-sourced stories tell us that Cutler’s most successful OC’s (Shanny, Martz, Gase) limited his freedom to audible because Jay’s at the line recognition was one of his liabilities. And we are now talking a 10 year veteran in Cutler.

        So again .. a kid with as little as experience as Bisky? Could see that being a concern too/makes sense.

        • Cooper

          I agree that giving a kid that has 13 college games and 2 pro games under his belt the ability to check out of plays would not go well.

      • SC Dave

        Run option worked great for RG III

        • I’m not for it as a staple, Dave, but in spots, esp on short downs, redzone, etc

          As long as Trub slides, he’ll be fine (see Wilson, Watson, Dak, etc)

          If he thinks he’s RG3 , Luck or Cam, then we got a problem.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Did anyone give McMahon the green light? No they didn’t. You take it. Mitchell might not have any balls.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          are you related to McMahon?

    • Bender McLugh

      R-Berger had 295 attempts in 13 games which is almost 23 attempts per game averaged out. He completed 196 of 195 for 17 TD’s & 13 INTs, and was sacked 30 times.

      https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit/2004.htm

      • Bender McLugh

        this is for his 2004 season

      • BerwynBomber

        Thanks. A little more than I thought, but obviously 23 is pretty close to Bisky’s 20. And I wouldn’t be surprise if our rook is passing more as the season’s progresses.

        We should also keep in mind that he is facing three top-notch D in his first three games: MIN, BAL, and CAR. I just the conservative stuff largely makes sense, regardless of some of our impatience or even our big picture view of Fox.

    • To me, it’s all about context.

      Nobody wants the Air-raid O on the Bears. Bears fan in general LOVE a great run game and D.

      That being said, we’re not total meatballs either.

      If 8 are in the box, logic dictates that maybe we should PA, or pass. This is Football 101.

      Even the Hoyer’s of the world audible out of a run if they see the numbers don’t add up.

      The thing is, Trub is a rook and perhaps the coaching staff don’t trust Trub with that yet (Has Trub even audibled ONCE?) esp since one of the major concerns with Trub was his inexperience vs more complex Ds. For all he knows, that S will blitz or pull back into coverage. Trub just isn’t experienced enough yet, so I understand some of the conservative play call.

      But Fox/Birdcage still can’t ram Howard into an 8 man box on 1st and 2nd, then expect Trub to bail them out on 3rd and long.

      There’s gotta be a bit more balance to keep Ds honest.

      Bear fans still want a run heavy O (I know I do. I own Howard in FF!), but it’s the ying/yang, gotta pass to open up the run and vice versa.

      So it’s not so much about HOW many times Trub throws, but in which spots, which plays, and naturally, execution.

      To date, he hasn’t thrown much, when he throws they’ve come on predictable long, and typically shittily executed (bad snaps. no seperation. drops. etc).

      That’s gotta change somehow.

      • BerwynBomber

        I getcha. As I said to GP below (at least I presume it’s GP) your run-option suggestion makes sense as presumably that is a pretty simple read and it fits Bisky’s game.

        • Trub is also used to quick-tempo shotgun O.

          That doesn’t play to our strength as of now, but it could be a wrinkle esp on two-minute drives.

          He can always run which is a great luxury.

          the other thing Trub did really well in college was the shovel pass. Could use some of that esp with Cohen.

          I could go on and on (Jet sweeps, fake jake sweep keepers, PA read option…)but those plays aren’t that ‘high risk’ and should keep Ds from just loading up

          • SC Dave

            Fake Jake sweeps… sounds like a research project.

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    • Irish Sweetness

      80% run plays is not conservative running football. 55%-60% is.

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  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Jeff has been going off on Greg Gabriel on his twatter feed. I wonder what set that off?

    • CanadaBear

      Who knows? Jeff isn’t exactly a shrinking violet on twatter (nobody is) so I could see them getting into a pissing match pretty easily. They have bickered back and forth numerous times.

      • BerwynBomber

        My guess? Something Trubisky-related. My second? Something Cutler-related.

        • Bender McLugh

          lol

    • BearDown100393

      Who?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        He was the Director of Scouting for 9 or 10 years for the Bears.

        • BearDown100393

          Oh.

          And he now takes the time to argue with Jeff on Twitter?

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t think GG’s career arc is going very well.

          • willbest

            I just pulled up his profile he was a scout for almost 30 years (9 with the bears) and I would imagine that as a director he would be making low to mid 6-figures. Then he turned sports writer, which is probably more of a hobby since he probably doesn’t need all that much money.

            If I were 15 years older I probably would be running something like SCOTUS blog after hitting my goal of FU money and getting my kids through college. Sadly it already exists, so I will have to find something else to keep track of to occupy my time.

          • SC Dave

            FTW Canada…

    • Cubsnlinux

      The same things that set off two drunks talking sports at a bar

    • Gabriel RT’d some Fox News thing about Kaepernick.

      Jeff saw it and insulted GG.

      GG got all pissy about it, cue the back and forth. It’s been both of them.

      • SC Dave

        Wanking off in public should humiliate people, but it does not seem to do so.

        • willbest

          If you got it flaunt it?

    • I think Jeff wins!

      “If there is a hell, and I end up there, I’ll be seated in a cramped booth at Olive Garden with Gabriel, Haugh and Durkin.”

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        surprised he did not throw Mariotti into that group.

        • SC Dave

          Maybe because Mariotti has a seat at the table with the big boss?

      • BearDown100393

        More likely Golden Corral with Biggs ahead in the trough line.

        • Big Mike

          And Jay Marrioti at the table..

      • willbest

        What the hell does Jeff have against unlimited bread sticks and salad?

        • Dunno, but my Sicilian friend says that Olive Garden is about as Italian as Taco Bell is Mexican.

          Also, Sicily is fishing heavy, so maybe that’s where “Sleep with the fishes” originated.

          Foggetaboutit

          • BearDown100393

            Fish food.

          • willbest

            Well both the food I got in Mexico and I got from Taco Bell gave me the shits, so by that standard Olive garden should be pretty authentic.

            Really though, you are talking about apples and oranges. I don’t think Olive Garden ever bills itself as authentic Italian. It specifically states its Americanized. I suppose that could be Jeff’s complaint. Being from New York he is probably a food snob, and looks down on American flare.

            Incidentally, I have had several meals in Rome, Florence, Assisi, Venice, Lake Como, Naples, I am not sure exactly what authentic Italian even means. It would be like choosing one American BBQ and claiming if it isn’t Memphis style its not authentic.

  • BerwynBomber

    Regarding a couple of the “around the league” points.

    Well, if there was ever a QB in the league who deserved a high-scoring day w/out having to toss the pigskin for 300 or 400 yards it is Brees. (And keep in my mind their D forced a buttload of TOs, two of which were pick sixes; hence their O wasn’t required much for 80 yard drives.)

    Ryan’s drop off doesn’t surprise me. Throw out last year, and his career tells us he is a good QB but definitely not elite. (He basically is a 90 career PR guy otherwise) But am a little surprised that ATL’s D looks as sketchy as it does. Seemed like a young, fast unit that was on the rise by season’s end (despite gassing out in the SB).

    • willbest

      That being said, he still needs about 4500 yards and 65 TDs to break Peyton’s all-time.

      • BerwynBomber

        Brees? He’s wonderful. Always been a fan. Though I put him just a slight notch below Brady and Rodgers because of their freakish ball security and post-season appearances.

        I’d be fine if NO proves to be a legit playoff contender. They looked like the usual NO dogshit the first two games. All Brees and the usual Mel Tucker-like D. But the last three their D has been balling. Is it real? I have my doubts. But it is certainly a surprise.

        • Bear Instincts

          Brees is will always be a notch below the greats:

          Gold-Rodgers is the best all around QB. His time goes nowhere without him

          Silver-Brady is send because his team is always getting start players to help him get to the SB

          Bronz-Peyton is the best regular season QB but chokes when the bright lights come on

          Brees is in the same tier as Big Ben, & Wilson – these guys have SB rings but it was a team effort even though they played a big part

          Below them you have: Matt Ryan, Carr, Newton, Luck and Alex Smith, Prescott, Stafford, Mariota, Winston, Cousins, Rivers –

          Below them is the rest of the league

          • willbest

            I would assert the only reason you don’t say Drew Brees in the same breath you say Peyton Manning is because Drew Brees didn’t spend a decade feasting on the AFCS racking up the regular season wins.

            From a pure passing standing point they are about as identical as you can be. Career PR for Manning is 96.5 and for Brees its 96.4.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Cometh the hour, cometh the man. Manning won an MVP against us he didn’t even deserve. He was a choker. Montana was the opposite.

          • SC Dave

            Brees is significantly better than Rapelesburger and putting Wilson on the same level is comical.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Brees can’t stand in a pocket and shake off pass-rushers. He doesn’t have two rings. Ben has that going for him. He was top drawer too.

          • BerwynBomber

            My half-assed list (FWIW):
            1st ballot HoFers
            1. Brady. The GOAT (well, this era’s GOAT, if nothing else.) I still suspect NE is more Belichick than Brady but the latter has been phenomonal and is an absolute machine. Plus, he’s only notch below Favre/Manning durability and had a much stronger arm than he was often given credit for. And of course five rings.
            2. Rodgers. Best I’ve ever seen. Most skilled/talented and the ultimate broken-play, sandlot guy. yeah, he has been are much-loathed rival, but some of the plays he make jaw-dropping. But he simply doesn’t have the rings to be GOAT. Almost entirely not his fault but it is what it is. And he might not be the strongest team leader.
            3. Brees. Fuckinginsane production. And maybe even more of one-man band than Rodgers (even if the latter is more versatile). Brees is a tad below Brady/Rodgers because of TOs and post-season appearances. But no way the dude doesn’t get into Canton. And he seems as much the vocal leader as Brady.
            HoFer but will have to wait
            4. R-berger — He’ll get in but his overall #s are more good than great. And his TOs seem to be increasing as he ages. Also doesn’t seem like he has had a ton of MVP-caliber years, unlike Brady, Rodgers and even Brees. still, he’ll deserve it. But it will take a few years.
            Trending toward HoFer
            5. Wilson. In some way as every bit the one-man band that Brees and Rodgers are, except that he has a tremendous D to boost his W-L record and team success accomplishments. But his #s are excellent and they give him no line. Still he’s young and needs to maintain something akin to performance/efficiency we have seen from thus far.
            Guys that could get there
            6. Prescott
            7. Wentz
            8. Carr
            9. Mariota
            B-level/good guys (or the lower end franchise guys)
            10 (tie) Stafford, Newton, Ryan, Luck, Cousins, Smith
            Guy I didn’t mention: Rivers (who like R-berger might eventually get into Canton)

          • WP4Life

            Where do you put Eli?

          • Unless Eli wins 2 more SBs and Bradshaws into the HOF, no way he makes it.

          • BerwynBomber

            I’d probably say B-level/good. Eli’s tough to call. Kinda like Rivers but for opposite reasons.

            Anyway, once I got past the top five I got sloppy. Luck deserves to be in that “could get there” category. Mariota just below it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Why is Eli tough to call? Is he a great QB? No. Easy.

          • Irish Sweetness

            And Otto and Joe Cool, hello!

          • BerwynBomber

            I was merely mentioning guys currently on teams. Hence, no Peyton, JoeCool, Otto, Unitas, Tarkenton or any other retirees.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Jesus Christ, you didn’t even mention the best of them all. The man that made Jerry Rice. 4 rings of his own in an era where QBs were on the verge of becoming extinct in the face of violence. Or the guy that was in the ‘super bowl’ ten years in a row (his entire career) and won seven of them.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Any of those guys ever go 25-0 as a starter?

      • SC Dave

        4500 yards is about one season. 65 TD is two.

        • Bear Instincts

          65TD is 4-5 TD a game

          • SC Dave

            65/32 is 2.03, although that does assume he would play 16 games each season.

  • “Coach John Fox’s game plan — not offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains’ — became more apparent with every handoff.”

    This narrative to me makes much more sense.

    Last season Birdcage was much more creative, even with Barkley (anyone remember this play?)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JRBlcmQoKQ

    Birdcage tailored the playbook to 3 diff types of QBs, and got much more out of 2 of them than anyone imagined.

    Now suddenly with a superior more athletic QB he’s ok with just 3 yds and a pile of dust? I don’t buy it.

    I believe he’s being handicapped by Fox, and maybe, maybe (though I hope not), Pace trickle down effect.

    Circumstantial evidence.

    1. Fox wants to win with D.
    Thus, no crazy stuff on O that may lead to TOs.

    2. Fox wants to run it all day.
    So, under 20 throws for QB ideally – The Bortles O.

    3. Fox doesn’t trust rooks.
    And QBs, maybe even less

    4. Fox is a dumbass.
    Ergo, the JV playbook.

    Now, not saying this approach can’t win games as the Raven’s/Steelers proved (Barely), but just seems passive and reactive (one long fiber filled dump) as opposed to aggressive and creative.

    We’re a 2 win team. Just go for it.

    Unleash some read-options, draws, 30yd bombs, audibles, etc..

    In the words of Jeff.

    PLAY da kid.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      QB catching a TD pass, how novel.

      On Cohen’s TD pass did anyone else notice how wide open Trubs was on the other side of the field? Cohen could have tossed it back to Trubs and he could have walked into the endzone.

      • It’s not just the “trick plays” but all the other stuff I mentioned.

        The first yr of Gase/Birdcage, they did some read-option in spurts with Cutler, and it worked. It helped keep the chains moving thus preventing the 3rd and longs and Cutler 50/50 bombs.

        With Barkley he did quick tempo shotgun when the O seemed stagnate. And again, in spots, it worked (before Barkley crashed and burned)

        Obviously you have to be creative to make Hoyer so proficient – he knew Hoyer was more a rhythm passer, so that’s mostly what he called with him.

        In other words, the O was simply more open and unpredictable, all while still getting Howard his touches and practically making him the leading rusher.

        That’s what I mean by more creative and aggressive and less predictable.

        Anyone can design trick plays, but it’s all those other plays you draw up and execute which make you not have to resort to trick plays.

        • SC Dave

          I have been shaking my head all year about all the silly calls for Loggains’ head.

          • It’s hard to tell where Loggain begins and Fox ends, but this playcalling stinks of Fox for all the aforementioned reasons.

            Also, most OCs, esp those trying to make a name for themselves, want to showcase their creativity and aggressiveness, while the HCs tend to dial them back.

            But Fox is dialing him back to the wishbone offense.

            I’m willing to bet that Birdcage is itching to let Trub loose. Trub throwing for 150 yds and 2 TOs is NOT going to secure him a job on the Bears or anywhere else..

            OCs who prove they can develop QBs move up to the start of the line when OC/HC jobs are handed out in the NFL.

            Just look at Gase. He practically got an HC job just by making Cutler avg.

            Birdcage knows what can make or break his career, and it ain’t Bortle-ing it.

      • SC Dave

        I’m not keen on the idea of a RB throwing an arching duck all the way across the field so our QB can get lit up waiting for it to come down.

    • WP4Life

      IMO. Fox is on the Hot seat. Directing O to play the only way he knows, trying how to win to keep his job.

      For long term Bears growth I would like to see:
      Unleash some read-options, draws, 30yd bombs, audibles, etc..

      Just – PLAY da kid.

      I’m Hoping the game-plan against Ravens – was a one off, because no rook qb has won there in years.

    • CanadaBear

      Like we talked about earlier in the year, the schedule gets a lot easier in the second half of the season. I think they will take the training wheels off then. Who knows? Fuckin’ Weekend @ Bernie’s! Although it’s good to know whiskers grow on a cadaver!

    • BearDown100393

      Most of the points on the board have been a result of “trick” plays. Cohen and O’Donnell lob the brick.

      • SC Dave

        Two TDs is “most “?

        • BearDown100393

          So many Bears touchdowns this season……

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      Doubt it’s Pace. Not much about that guy screams conservative approach.

      • I agree. I don’t think Pace is conservative by nature.

        HOWEVER

        He might want to protect his investment (and job).

        You don’t let your teenager borrow your ferrarri to practice driving at the local Kmart parking lot.

        (In case you guys were wondering, Fox is the Kmart parking lot)

  • Cooper

    Ha.

    Somebody asked Mike McCarthy if he should sign Kaepernick and I guess he lost his shit.

    #FatFuck

    • BearDown100393

      Grimace felt the blood sugar drop.

    • I saw that. I think that’s the first time I’ve seen him almost lose it.

      Almost as if he knows Puke SUCK w-out Vadgers and his season is over and his “genius” will be exposed…

      • SC Dave

        That, or its a too early, or he thinks Hundley is better, or…

    • Irish Sweetness

      #TradeGlennon

  • Cooper

    Bill Mitchell‏
    Verified account
    @mitchellvii

    The more I see of John McCain the more I believe he was the songbird in Vietnam and sold out his friends. He does that now every day.

    Damn. What is with these Trump media weirdos hating on McCain and attacking his years in the POW camps? McCain is a lot of bad things, but having the alt-right keep attacking his service is weird.

    • “When you degrade one life, you degrade all life” – Captain Picard while being tortured.

      #SwiftBoat

      It’s extremely ironic that a draftdodger is puppeteerring this.

      Shouldn’t this piss off the military type more than kneeling?

      • BearDown100393

        Fake Patriotism

      • Cooper

        I have it on good authority that Jean Luc Picard is a fake. The real Jean Luc died in France.

        This man’s real name is Gurney Halleck.

        https://youtu.be/J_NRfPI6ABU?t=70

        #geeked

      • A7Xthebest

        McCain is a neocon of ultimate proportions and the epitome of a GOP insider. You need nothing more than to understand why the alt-right despises him.

        He’s a talking head of the NWO.

  • Bear Instincts
    • BerwynBomber

      Good one. Although given what I know of UM’s current QBs, the average NFL back-up QB would give Harbaugh major wood.

  • From Biggy’s 10-100 things.

    10a. Jordan Howard believes he’s in better shape this season and that’s why he was able to carry the ball 36 times. Only Walter Payton (three times) and James Allen (once) have more carries in a single game in club history.”

    Tip o the hat to Howard the Destroyer.

    Also, tip o the hat to all those who refused my Howard trade offer. I’m sure you didn’t need those 32 points last week!

    More HB trivia. Shorty wanna be a chug!

    “The Bears say Cohen is the shortest player to throw a touchdown pass in the NFL since Nov. 29, 1934 when Wee Willie Smith of the New York Giants threw a 20-yard scoring pass to Kink Richards in a 27-0 victory over the Brooklyn Dodgers. Like Cohen, Smith was listed at 5-foot-6. But
    while Cohen is 181 pounds, Smith was listed at 148 pounds.

    “Before I threw it, I was thinking about that too,” Cohen said. “‘I’m about to be the shortest player to throw a touchdown.’”

    – Fox-non-trot zombies

    10g. The Bears need to start faster. They’ve been outscored by opponents 27-9 in the first quarter. Yes, they’re electing to defer when they win the coin toss so the opponent can potentially strike first but they’ve also struggled in the third quarter when they’ve been outscored 38-14.”

    10h. Finally, this was well put by Bears tight end Zach Miller following the win: “Dude, we should have buried them. Buried them…”

    What he couldn’t say was, well, see 10G….

    • SC Dave

      Well, some of that is on the D too, although they are improving on the early 3 and outs.

      I would like to see a gradual expansion of trust in Mitch… this team could actually be good – right now.

  • willbest

    Faith the Cubs can rally or is this the end of the line?

    • Cubsnlinux

      Me thinks Cubs in 7

    • SC Dave

      Dodgers are a good team.

      • Cubsnlinux

        They are all good in the post season and more so after the LDS.

      • Cubsnlinux

        You can say that the Cubs don’t match up well with this year’s Dodgers.

    • Cubsnlinux

      In the last 10 years only one previous WS winner made it back to the show the next year and that is the 2008 Phillies who lost to the Yankees in 2009 WS. Three others lost in the LCS after winning it all in the previous year. Five teams didn’t even make it to the post season (not played in LDS) after winning the WS the previous year.

      So recent history suggests that the Cubs are bound to lose in the NLCS this year but I hope they are the 2008 Phillies and not like every other team. It just shows how hard it is to repeat in baseball these years. Being a Cubs fan I can’t really complain because going to three straight LCS was simply unfathomable until recently.

      • BearDown100393

        I think the baseball team left winning the last game of these playoffs is probably going to be the World Series Champion…..
        – John Madden’s Brain

    • Cubsnlinux

      I am just glad that I don’t root for the Indians or the Nationals. Sucks to be them..phew especially the Indians after the last two years.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I think their pitching is too fouled up to win 4 of 5 against the likes of Kershaw & Darvish.

      • Cubsnlinux

        Yeah Cubs bullpen is like this year’s Bears WR core. Pick your poison and close your eyes.

        They chased Kershaw early and in both games lost the battle of bullpens.

    • CanadaBear

      If they don’t start hitting soon it’s over. Other than the 9-run game, they are averaging 2 runs/game. That won’t get it done.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Confidence is low.

      • willbest

        Yeah, I am feeling Dodgers are showing up tomorrow with the brooms.

        • Cubsnlinux

          I think you may be on to something here…

  • SC Dave

    I really am with all you guys calling for more variety. Hopefully we’ll see a little more each week.

    My biggest hope of all is that the D gets at least to the middle of the league in takeaways so the O does not have to be SO paranoid about ball control.

    Turnovers suck, but undue fear of them may be worse. And a defense that can get some back (which we have not had in *years*) may eliminate the “undue” part and allow the O to let its hair down a bit.

    • SC Dave

      Oh, and I think it was Butch, but whoever it was I share the concern about health of our RBs if opening thing up a bit doesn’t happen. Jordan Howard has been my favorite Bear for about 18 games now and I want him to live long and prosper in the NFL, and all of it for The Only Team That Matters.

      But damn, calling for Loggains’ head on a pike because he’s worked with Glennon and a talented but raw rookie just feels way over the top.

      • BearDown100393

        Nothing better than giring a birdcage.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Turns out it was Fox calling for all the runs so I guess Logout gets a pass,

  • WP4Life
    • A7Xthebest

      Should have been ejected for that.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Yes.

        Standard procedure for Steeler defenders, IMO.

  • willbest

    “Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010
    giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had
    gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials
    were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering
    designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the
    United States, according to government documents and interviews.”

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

    Considering how unsuccessful Muller and Rosenstein were at ferreting out the Obama Administration being Putin’s bitch in a timely manner, I would be livid if I were a democrat that they were tasked with spearheading this. These chaps are clearly the people you put in charge of something you want to disappear.

  • BearDown100393

    Fred Hoiberg is the Bulls version of Marc Trestman and player discipline. Portis beats the crap out of Mirotic in practice.

    But it was a really really great practice.

    Mirotic now hopsitalized. Out indefinitely.

    • Cubsnlinux

      It’s all about the culture bro!

  • BerwynBomber

    When did Joe Maddon dye his hair? Looks a bit comical …

    • CanadaBear

      A month or two ago. He said it’s Clark Kent blue.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Zeke is playing this week? This is beyond a joke.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Vince Vaughn was a amazing in ‘Brawl in cell block 99’. Great flick. Seriously good entertainment. I think the dude has found his calling.

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  • ManGod

    M Trubisky is proving on a game to game basis he is a #1 QB in the NFL. While Fox may be playing it extremely safe with Trubisky, the fact is that Trubisky is growing more and more comfortable playing under center and making his reads. He is gaining valuable experience because Fox is guiding his progression and directing his learning curve like an over-protective mother. Fox does not have to make the play-offs to be HC next season, he only has to pull out a few more wins this season and point to the development of Trubisky. But, with the mess that is Detrtoit right now, the season ending injury to Rodgers and Minnesota only 2 games out in front of Chicago….Fox has to eyeing a potential play off run and a possible NFC North win. Trubisky and Howard combined with a promising D are quietly pointing to more wins than most writers have predicted for the Bears this year. I say this, sit back and enjoy the ride because it definitely is starting to look like R Pace may have killed this draft overall….especially if A Shaheen and T Gentry produce this year. Can’;t complain as R Pace already appears to have it hit big with E Jackson, M Trubisky and T Cohen….so if A Shaheen and T Gentry step up….there will be little room left to argue that this was not one of the top 3 drafts by any team in the 2017 drafrt.

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