• SC Dave

    First win vs NFC Champ. Great way to set the tone for the season!

    Sucks that we have to play in Pittsburgh, and then in Green Bay five days later. They should not schedule that way for anyone… i.e. away on Sunday and away on Thursday.

    • Sahr Gborie

      All the better to show our dominance

  • Magic 8-ball says…

    L-Falcons
    W-@Bucs
    L-@Steelers
    Tie-@Puke

    W-Queens
    W-@Ravens

    W-Panthers
    L-@ Saints

    W-Puke
    W-Meows
    W-@Iggles
    W-9ers

    W-@Bengals
    W-@Meows
    W-Browns
    W-@Queens

    12 wins and playoffs, biatches!

    [1 win and Darnold in ’18 also acceptable]

    • Sahr Gborie

      1win and someone is losing their job and it ain’t Pace

    • MB30SD

      Irish… Is that you?

      Tie. : /

      • I will not predict the bears to lose to rhe puke. Tie is the farthest I’ll go!

        • MB30SD

          ok, so can i ride my unicorn over to your pad with santa and the easter bunny so that a leprechaun and I can bestow his gold upon you

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      WRONG! 16-0!!!

      • willbest

        HBP, I think BD hacked your disqus

  • 13 noon Sunday games. I love it.

    • BerwynBomber

      Although so many noon Sunday games means a) you suck, or b) schedulers/networks think you’ll suck.

      • Bender McLugh

        doooon’t caaaare (lol)

      • MB30SD

        Pssssst! Berwyn…. We do suck.

        At least we don’t have to account for the diabeetus no mores

        • BerwynBomber

          I hear ya. Just makes me SMH a bit. Goes back to Jeff’s thing of being happy when the Bears are hidden in anonymity on Sunday at noon. That’s really not a good sign.

      • Big Mike

        It’s true, but I would prefer the Bears play at Noon Central, while they lick their wounds and get better.

      • willbest

        I don’t like them as the 2nd or 3rd game on Sunday. I end up getting all footballed out if there is a decent game on the broadcast before them.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          footballed out?!?! what a weeny!

          • willbest

            3 games is too much football. At least with the commercials. I been debating that season pass thing to avoid them.

      • I’m a-ok with that. Better that than them sucking in prime time every damn week.

  • King of DBB

    Bears made #4 and #5 of SI’s “Worst Games of the 2017 Season”

    6. Week 15, Saturday 4:30 p.m., Bears at Lions

    What’s this game doing here? The NFL has taken over Saturdays in years past after college football’s regular season shuts down in December. But the non-holiday, Week 15 Saturday doubleheader is a little brazen. The league will do it again in Week 16, but that week there’s no Sunday night game (probably because it’s Christmas Eve). In Week 15, however, the league will give us a Thursday night game, two games Saturday, the normal three-window slate Sunday and a Monday nighter. That’s a full weekend!

    There’s a good chance the Bears will be out of the playoff race by then, their record could be 1-13 going into this game, and I think the league could have tucked them into a normal 1:00 Sunday window.

    5. Week 5, Monday 8:30 p.m., Vikings at Bears

    Who’s ready for back-to-back Bears?

    Last year [for unknown reasons] the Bears were in primetime in Weeks 2, 3, 7 and 8 and lost the first three of those games by two touchdowns each. This year the Bears have a totally defensible obligatory Thursday night showing against the Packers, which is followed immediately by another national showing against Sam Bradford and the Vikings. How much Mike Glennon are you ready for?

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/04/20/worst-games-nfl-schedule-tnf-mnf-london#

    • BerwynBomber

      Fuck SI.

      Btw, MNF pretty much gets leftover, crappy games since SNF came onto the scene. Pecking order seems to be:

      SNF
      Sunday marquee afternoon game (think Aikman/Buck or Nance/Romo)
      MNF
      TNF

      And I’m not convinced MNF is even ranked above TNF these days.

      • CanadaBear

        TNF is almost always a snoozefest. MNF seems better to me.

      • King of DBB

        Fuck SI!

  • King of DBB

    According to Politico.com and the Washington Post (via SportsBusiness Daily), seven NFL owners coughed up $1 million each for the Donald Trump inaugural committee. Seven-figure donors included Jets owner Woody Johnson, Jaguars owner Shad Khan, Washington owner Daniel Snyder, Patriots owner Robert Kraft (via The Kraft Group), Rams owner Stan Kroenke, Texans owner Bob McNair, and Cowboys owner Jerry Jones (via Glenstone Limited Partnership).

    NFL Ventures separately gave $100,000 to the cause, which reportedly generated $106.7 million — twice the amount Barack Obama raised for his initial inauguration.

    Apparently, the most beautiful piece of chocolate cake you’ve ever seen ain’t cheap.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/20/nearly-25-percent-of-nfls-owners-paid-1-million-each-for-trump-inauguration/

    • willbest

      Woody Johnson is getting the ambassadorship to the UK so he can have diplomatic access while the NFL negotiates for a permanent London based team. Just the cost of doing business.

      • BerwynBomber

        Goodell’s global dominance inanity …

    • BerwynBomber

      No surprise. The Ricketts (Cubs) are huge GOP donors too and backers, if I recall, of some far right causes.

      I would imagine the ruling class of our major sports leagues are more conservative than liberal.

      • willbest

        Most billionaires lean left. Gates, Buffett, Zuck, Bezos, etc. Somebody did a breakdown somewhere and it was something like 9-1. Its interesting that sports owning billionaires seem to differ in that sense. And I use left in this instance to social liberals. They are all very much interested in cementing their oligarchy. I tend to think the difference between left billionaires and right billionaires is how much of the planet they are content to rule over.

        • BerwynBomber

          But you’re talking Silicon Valley or Hollywood billionaires.

          Most of the major sports leagues are still held by old money — or money that is familial/generational. Most of those guys/gals lean right. The Mark Cubans are still the exception in sports (and Cuban, of course, was also a Silicon Val billionaire).

          In terms of the 9/1 breakdown, I’m initially suspicious, especially if your short list is any indication.

          • willbest

            I will look for it. Its not just which candidate they are buying. Its how they are directing their foundations to spend their money.

  • King of DBB

    Brad Biggs‏
    Verified account @BradBiggs 11h11 hours ago

    #Falcons open as a 8.5-point favorite over #Bears at Soldier Field in Week 1 opener at Westgate SuperBook per my guy @JoeFortenbaugh. I need cake.

    • MB30SD

      Wonder if he puts au jus and gardiniera on his cake

      • Ososfan

        Deep fried bacon bits as garnish

  • King of DBB
    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      Doesn’t surprise me. I had guessed she was the reason Brady not going to WH.

      • willbest

        You think she wears the pants in the family? Unlikely. It was GM or whoever he is whoring for these days said “we would prefer you don’t go”

        • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

          All Patriots higher ups, starting from Robert Kraft, are deep in Trump’s butt. No one in the org would tell him not to go.

          • willbest

            Not the GM. General Motors

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Ross Tucker‏Verified account @RossTuckerNFL 13h13 hours ago
    Malik Hooker just went 17th in Kiper & McShay’s mock draft and was Polian’s 4th ranked safety. Book must be out on medical & it’s not good.

    Samuel Gold‏ @SamuelRGold Apr 19
    #Panthers have been linked hard to Christian McCaffrey. Didn’t realize that Lance Taylor (#Stanford’s RB coach last year) is their WR coach.

    • Bender McLugh

      so then, Adams or Thomas it is.

      • MB30SD

        Hopefully always was foo

        • Bender McLugh

          you know it wasn’t for me, but now it is. Foo!

          • MB30SD

            I loves you maings

  • Big Mike

    Above schedule is wrong. The third game against the Steelers is at home.

    Chicago Bears
    Scores & schedule

    Sun, Sep 10vsFalcons
    1:00 PM

    Sun, Sep 17@Buccaneers
    1:00 PM

    Sun, Sep 24vsSteelers
    1:00 PM

    Thu, Sep 28@Packers
    8:25 PM

    Mon, Oct 9vsVikings
    8:30 PM

    Sun, Oct 15@Ravens
    1:00 PM

    Sun, Oct 22vsPanthers
    1:00 PM

    Sun, Oct 29@Saints
    1:00 PM

    Sun, Nov 12vsPackers
    1:00 PM

    Sun, Nov 19vsLions
    1:00 PM

    Sun, Nov 26@Eagles
    1:00 PM

    Sun, Dec 3vs49ers
    1:00 PM

    All times are in Eastern Time

    • willbest

      I hate the NFL’s insistence on playing division games on 4 days “rest” just to drive eyeballs on TNF

      • Big Mike

        I’m amazed they can even create a schedule with the number or rules, (written and unwritten), constraints (mixed use stadiums) and so on. In the end, we knew who the Bears were going to play a few months ago. I think the order of the schedule, and the day of week, time of day don’t have much impact on the outcome. I’d like 8 wins with a 5-3 second half. Thank you very much.

        • CanadaBear

          Don’t really agree Mike. It’s who you play but also when you play them. Nobody has any idea about the when part and that’s what makes it interesting. Nessman’s last year he started out 2-1 with both wins on the road.

          • Big Mike

            You can make generalizations. In hindsight it looks like it has an impact. But from where we are now, you can float a dozen different theories. Atlanta and Pittsburgh up front might be good, if you think we’re going to lose to them anyways, may as well use it as an early season test.. or you could say later would be better and give me all my cream puffs up front, so we can gain confidence. For every reason something is good, you can find a reason it is bad. That’s my take. We’ve got the 19th toughest schedule based on last year’s strength of schedule. The away game at the cheese, is always a night game. Opening against Atlanta is a kick in the nuts. But we weren’t beating them at any point next season.

            We’ll see. 4 wins in December is more positive than 4 in September, but 4 wins in September certainly makes the season more fun.

          • CanadaBear

            True dat! The Queens looked like world beaters the first 5 weeks last year and then, not so much. I really have no clue about this team. After all the injuries last year it’s hard to say if some of the older guys will recover fully and it’s hard to tell if the young players were any good prior to the injuries. I’m guessing the injury luck will improve some but it seems like the Beloved are always snakebit with injuries (I’m sure every fan of a shitty team says the same thing).

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Brad “I have got pork chops hanging from my cheeks, butt cheeks, mammary glands” Biggs makes his game by game predictions (6-10). Haugh predicts 5-11.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-tribune-bears-writers-make-their-picks-20170420-photogallery.html

    • willbest

      There is no game on the schedule that I would use a pen when writing a W next to, not even the 9ers and the browns.

      • MB30SD

        And this is where we are.

        What fucking garbage. Really sad how far this stories franchise has fallen

        • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

          It is going to take a couple of good drafts to just get to being competitive. Bears fans are beginning to accept that realization.

          Bears are the new Browns.

          Browns have 22 picks in 2017 and 2018 drafts combined. Browns have a combined 8 picks in the first two rounds of 2017 and 2018 drafts. Even if they hit on 50% of these 8 picks, they are going to be good real fast.

          • MB30SD

            100% on the first part. It’s fucking bullshit and I’m at the point of bailing till they get their shit together, since it seems there’s an easy initial fix… Fire teddy and bring in someone who actually knows football and wants to win.

            The second part… No they’re not. They’re cursed

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            There are no curses. Theo and Cubs proved it.

          • King of DBB

            Sam Zell actually LOOKED like a Billy Goat.

            The cunt was a one man HBS Case Study on how to fuck up companies

            http://i.cnn.net/money/galleries/2007/biz2/0706/gallery.50whomatter.biz2/images/40_zell_sam.gi.jpg

            Before Ricketts got a hold of the Cubs and Zell was fucking up everything he touched, you have to admit you kinda believed in the curse.

          • MB30SD

            so basically Teddy is our Zell

          • King of DBB

            Jon Favreau stars in…

            The Ted Phillips Story.

            Starring Brian Denehhey as John Fox
            Louis Gosset Jr. as Lovie Smith
            Ashton Kushner as Jay Cutler
            Kevin Spacey as Glitchy
            Vince Vaughn as Ryan Pace
            Vanessa Redgrave as Ginny

          • CanadaBear

            Love the casting, esp for Cutler. Might as well get someone unlikeable to play Jay!

          • MB30SD

            I’d watch that for a dollar

          • CanadaBear

            We all want to know who’s playing Emery!

          • King of DBB

            Phil Emery will be played by Woody Allen.

          • CanadaBear

            Perfect! That begs the question. Nessman?

        • Irish Sweetness

          If only we were in a position to draft the best QB in the draft … wait …

          • MB30SD

            I hate you (not really)

            What happens when he doesn’t play in 2017 and maybe even some of 2018 is glennon is even half way decent. Then will it be worth the #3 pick?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I used pen. 16 W’s it was easy.

      • Big Mike

        We are capable of losing to anybody. We’ve seen it.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Odds on Biggs surviving the season?

      Over-under on heart attacks?

      Too early?

      • MB30SD

        dude puts gardiniera on his fucking cake!!!

  • CanadaBear
    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      C-Bear picking up the slack on BOOBY FRIDAY!!!

      • CanadaBear

        Look real too!

    • MB30SD

      well done Canada!

      Don’t like the face, but the boobies make up for it.

      Oh, and YAY! for the wifebeater!

      • CanadaBear

        If they have nice bodies, women always look incredibly hot in wife beaters.

        • MB30SD

          especially when they’re wet

          • Scharfinator

            …The wifebeater… or….?

            😉

          • MB30SD

            I don’t understand what you’re looking for here scharf?

          • Scharfinator

            I sure know what I’m looking for.. HAR HAR HAR

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        she had a face…. well i will be damned.

      • King of DBB

        SMH.

        Her face is awesome. We have a face discrepancy.

        • MB30SD

          yes, I’ve already noticed this. You and I differ greatly on the face… situation.

  • CanadaBear

    For those of you that don’t want to click, the video uses food to indicate the Bears opponent each week. e.g. for the Saints they use beignets. Trust me the Packers games will make you laugh.

    https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/04/20/chicago-bears-season-schedule-food-items-twitter

  • Irish Sweetness

    As a famous man once said, possibly a homosexual or a transgender/pre-op – it’s not important – …
    …. schedule Shmershmedule ….

    Build the team, and the opponents turn into Ws.

    Step one, pray that SF draft Trubisky.

    • Sahr Gborie

      amen

      • MB30SD

        He wants them to take the trubz so that we take Watson dude… Careful what you wish fo

        • Bender McLugh

          Watson in the 2nd

          • MB30SD

            no, he’s advocating using our #3 on him.

          • Bender McLugh

            ugh, no no no

          • MB30SD

            exactly

    • Tortured Bear fan

      or find a trade for him.

      • Tortured Bear fan

        or even better, bears trade with jets several picks for him. stripping them

        • leftcoast dave

          The problem on ALL trade scenarios remains the 9ers. C Mac getting ink is great to see. He could prove to be THE stud coming out of this draft when looking back on the season.

  • King of DBB

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    I expect Bears to have best defense/rushing attack in the division next season. But…I also expect Mike Glennon to be poor. Hope I’m wrong.

    Mike Glennon is getting a $3m signing bonus. I don’t think he will be poor!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CdVTCDdEwI

    • MB30SD

      Hee hee (sniff)

  • leftcoast dave

    Just put in my long shot entry to the contest. It assumes a trade back for capital, then 1 Pat Mahomes, 2 Obi Melifonwu and 3 Garett Boles. Da Bears are connected to Mahomes IMHO and will pick him. IF they get the capital from trading down, the next two picks are on the table.

    • willbest

      Don’t tell people, they might steal it and then you won’t win the prize.

      • leftcoast dave

        First in time. Longest odds?

        • MB30SD

          very longest. we pick that cuck with our #1 and we might as well change our colors to orange and brown now. jesus tapdancing fucking christ

  • King of DBB

    Roger Waters drops his new single today.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEh7Ip4yvH8

    It’s starts out so 70’s funkadelic, you picture Shaft doing an investigation montage to it while driving his Plymouth Satellite: http://details-of-cars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Plymouth-satellite-1.jpg

    Then, mid-song, it goes full Animals and sounds like a Pigs cover.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog I expect Bears to have best defense/rushing attack in the division next season. But…I also expect Mike Glennon to be poor. Hope I’m wrong.”

    I would still rate MIN’s D above ours. And maybe even DET’s.

    The Cheese’s D? Yes, we are better than that.

    • willbest

      Who did the Vikings lose on D that would set them so far back? And if they draft Adams or Thomas, its foolish to think they wouldn’t be subjected to the rookie learning curve. I think both are going to elevate to the next level but expecting a DROY/pro-bowl performance from them year 1 is nonsensical. And that is what it would take. And a miraculous recovery by Danny or a massive sophomore leap from Nick

      • evantonio

        someone has to win DROY. why not those guys?

        • willbest

          Because the other one and Garrett, and Barnett, and Latimore, Hooker, Foster, etc are going to be on some other team. There are about 16-20 defensive players that are going to be given every opportunity to win that award.

          • SC Dave

            I’m still calling Barnett.

    • Sahr Gborie

      No matter how great our D. The Cheese always have the Swiss to carve us up

  • MB30SD

    is jeff fucking color blind?

    • willbest

      Seems reasonable. Blue on orange would make more sense.

      • MB30SD

        right?! That shit hurts my eyes… and I’m glad I don’t have fucking epilepsy

        • willbest

          Blue on orange wouldn’t be any better, but it would make more sense.

          • MB30SD

            yes. graphic designers call it “buzzing”

            Try doing red text on a darkish blue bg.

            There are some color combos you just don’t use… common knowledge in the GD world.

  • MB30SD

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Solomon Thomas. The next big defensive star in Chicago.”

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    My guess is the Bears are taking Peterman in the third round.”

    This looks like the beginnings of a strong draft… of course, it all depends on whats in the middle AND I’d rather have Adams @ #3

  • Ugh. Even tho i wouldn’t want to do it, i can understand the logic of Pace going QB at #3.
    I said months ago when i finally jumped off the Cargo bandwagon (or i should say when Conte pushed us all off ) that the search for the next franchise qb wasn’t gonna be easy, and part of that was perhaps squeezing ur cheeks and reaching for a giraffe or qb ‘project’ to increase chances of landing one. Look at what the Eagles did. They got Bradford. Then they paid his backup like 7m-yr THEN they threw everything for Wentz.
    Seemed like they were nuts at the time, but worked out.
    They saw Wentz in person and decided, ok. We can roll w this guy.
    If we draft Trub or Watson and do the same, i guess could live w it.
    If they’re not ready, go w Glennon. If Glennon pans out, so be it.
    Can always flip a young qb for a 2nd in the future. Be a good problem to have.
    If Glennon flails, bring in Watson etc and see how that goes.
    In 18, take another stab.
    Rinse wash repeat.
    Naturally I’d prefer drafting a Peterman who turns into Brees or something, but we’re the Bears so of course it’s not gonna be that easy

    • willbest

      Jury is still out on Wentz, he fell back down to earth once NFL DC got tape on him. He does look like he has the brain to adjust though.

      • Yeah I’m not saying Wentz is a lock, but anyone w eyes can see he’s got the tools.
        But look at the Eagle’s process. They were aggressive in landing a QB.
        They spent a lot of capital but they realized in this modern NFL a franchise is a must esp when the other div foes seem to have one

        • willbest

          It helps that they have Fletcher Cox though. We don’t have a leader on either side of the ball.

          • But having a badass D + marginal QB rarely wins titles.
            Eagles realized this and that’s why they ‘upgraded’ to Wentz.
            Bears finally realized this and why Cargo is in Cancun butt-tanning.
            The draft no longer impedes teams from drafting QBs high.
            It’s not like the old days where Purple Drank costs 60m and sets back a team 3-4 yrs.
            In the new rook scale, can gamble on a QB w less penalty.
            Sure u miss on some other talent, but that’s not guaranteed anyways ( see White), and the payoff for franchise QBs are worth 3 Garretts

          • Ososfan

            Hahaha purple drank

      • Ososfan

        Eagles have shhhhhhhiiiittttyyyy WR’s but I do agree with, you sir.

        • CanadaBear

          I think Alshon should help.

    • Big Mike

      What, we can’t just find Dak Prescott 2? 🙂

      • Or Brady in the 6th!

        I think the Bears just have to start swinging.

        Personally, I’d prefer chancing it on Peterman in the 3rd.

        However, i don’t hate Glennon like some.

        If you really think Glennon is Oz redux, then should be happy if Bears bring in a high pick as insurance.

        Unless Sanchize is trotted out in another lost season

        • Big Mike

          I’m with you on Glennon. Who knows? The Bears are better than the Bucs were the two years he was the starter. He was a rookie then. He’s got, what is it 4 years now? I think he has enough so that we are certainly not missing Hoyer/Barkley. He won’t give you the puncher’s chance that Cutler gave us against top teams. But hopefully he won’t take us out of games either.

          I’m cautiously optimistic, that the Bears won’t suck this year. 8-8 with a 5-3 second half would be just fine with me.

          • Mark my words, it’ll come down to Fox in-game and a few turnovers which will determine if we’re out of the playoffs by mid-season.

            I think sometimes fans forget that some teams are perennially good because the HCs are smarter than their counterparts.

            Who was the last coach Fox outsmarted?

          • Big Mike

            I like John Fox.

          • I don’t. I think he’s half-retired.

            Prolly why the team always comes out like Zombies, and why Elway terminated his ass in spite of him reaching the SB.

            Reminds me of Dick Vermeil in his last days. Riding on rep, but senile and soft as MB without a cackring.

          • MB30SD

            lovie smith?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Why swing though? Why not slam dunk it at 3?

      • Irish Sweetness

        We didn’t find him in the first two rounds last year, Mike.

        That would suggest to me that the people are not in place who can recognize good quarterbacks. Some teams passed on him three times.

        • Big Mike

          Missing on Prescott was no shame. My comment was really meant to highlight my hope that we get lucky. Because, in my opinion, that’s all the selection of the outlier QBs like Wilson,Prescott and Brady are. Not a single GM thought they were drafting their 10 year QB. They hoped, they had some insight, but they were just taking a shot. Buying a lottery ticket.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Butch, you’re telling us that you can’t understand the logic of drafting the most important position in professional sports … at #3? It’s drafting the SS at #3 that defies logic.

      The first round is where these guys are drafted, and that’s where we’re picking.

  • MB30SD
    • willbest

      This seems like something that wouldn’t hold up well to high amounts of UV or temperature changes.

      • MB30SD

        Pretty sure they (they being people who make tires for, say, formula 1 race cars) have taken those two factors into consideration.

        • willbest

          I have never seen airless tires on the street. Formula one tires while having to handle a lot of friction and heat, don’t have to contend with other factors such as salt, freezing rain, shitty roads, etc. And all the care in the world is there to protect them. As in they are just laid up next to the side of a garage outside all off season.

      • Johnnywad

        Hahahaha.

        Will: Sees post about tires. “I got tires. I know stuff about tires. Let me shit on this post about tires.”

        • willbest

          That wasn’t a comment on tires. It was a comment on plastic. And one of my clients imports garden tools for a living, so I happen to know a bit more about the exposure of plastic to the elements than a normal person should. Even dealt with a products liability claim and deposed a couple material science engineer.

          • Johnnywad

            😐 Your experience with plastics is noteworthy.

        • MB30SD

          hahahahaha… lawyers. Amiright?!

          • willbest

            I have actually spent more than a few minutes trying to figure out about those car tires they introduced. To the point I even contemplated spending $80 on a Lexis search.

          • Johnnywad

            You right. You right.

    • CanadaBear

      Pretty cool. By the time I can afford them I’ll be too old to ride.

  • Bender McLugh

    Not sure if this was posted already, Jamal Adams on Sports Science:

    http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=19201266

    • 505Bears

      Him destroying that dummy is awesome

  • Captain Obvious

    MB, let me ask you a safety question. We got Mike Brown in the 2nd round. Adams is compared to Mike Brown a lot. But he won’t be around when we’re picking in the 2nd — he won’t even be round in the 2nd half of the 1st. Is he Mike Brown 2.0, or is he an improvement over Brown? If so, how?

    • MB30SD

      My $.02 CO….

      He’s an improvement. He’s soooo much faster… and he’s bigger.

      The rest seems very very similar to me. Team leader to the 9s, nose for the ball, a punisher who has the acceleration to cover deep… man, he has it all for me.

      If you could guarantee another MB, would it matter where you picked him? Would he be worth our #3 this year?

      • Captain Obvious

        Oh, hell yes. I just wondered if Adams = Brown, if being picked ~40 slots earlier was a matter of inflation, scarcity at the position, a strong class when Brown came out, etc.

        A bigger, faster Mike Brown — who doesn’t pick up nagging lower-leg injuries that end his career prematurely — is definitely worth the #3 to me. There was a huge difference in the defense when he was on the field. If Adams is the second coming of Mike Brown, we’re on our way.

        • MB30SD

          bingo!

          nothing’s a sure bet, but everything’s pointing that way for adams

          • Captain Obvious

            Now, can we find a bigger, faster Urlacher, too?

          • MB30SD

            doood, I’m just praying to fucking god we don’t pick up watson @ 3 man.

            It’s that bad. Maybe that’s just my PTSD, but yeah… please god pace, just do the right thing.

          • willbest

            But what if he really is the bastard love child of Cam Newton and Tom Brady. Or was that Kizer claiming to be that?

          • MB30SD

            kizer. I actually like watson a lot…. in college.

            He’s RG IV from everything I’ve seen, and I’ve seen quite a bit. (again I’m a clemson fan since the 80’s) He’s a great kid, a playmaker, and a stud… that said, he reminds me of a mix between RGIII and fucking Tebus.

            He seems like a tyrod ceiling level guy. You don’t take tyrod @ #3… especially when you just paid the giraffe $18M.

          • willbest

            I think the problem is you don’t pay giraffe 18 million, regardless of whether or not you want to draft Tyrod at #3. Kudos to that little badger he married though. Her girlfriends aren’t laughing at her now.

          • MB30SD

            ahahaha

          • SC Dave

            Well, maybe they think glennon is “the guy”. And fuck, maybe he is.

          • Irish Sweetness

            So what DO you do?

            What’s your specific solution to the QB problem moving forward?

            With names.

          • MB30SD

            We’ll be 6-10 and picking top 10… You sell out and take one of the guys that’s already said to be light years away from any of the guys this year… There are already 3 guys like that.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Kaizer. If hes there in the 4th then sure take a flyer on him

          • Irish Sweetness

            You either believe in him or not, why waste the pick?

            If he’s not good enough when drafted in the first, he doesn’t get any better drafted in the 4th.

          • Sahr Gborie

            R-E-L-A-X MB. Pace is going for Adams @3 unless he gets 3 first round offers (2017, 2018, 2019) this is slam dunk easy:

            Athletic Freak – Check
            Leader of Men – Check
            BPA – Check
            Position of Need – Check
            10YR Starter – Check

            Did I miss something?

          • MB30SD

            yes, you did.

            we’re the chicago bears. you seem to have forgotten that.

          • SC Dave

            His point, with which I absolutely agree, is that Urlacher made Brown better. Just as he did for everyone else on the defense.

            Adams won’t have the benefit, unless somehow Freeman and whoever else plays inside (probably Kwiat this year) can be as effective covering the pass as BU was.

            And they, of course, won’t. Urlacher was a fucking freak. And I want another one.

          • MB30SD

            Right, so pass up on a potential Hof or at least pb player till we find another Hof linebacker.

            Got it. Makes perfect logical sense.

            All jokes aside, I think adams could be better than mb

          • leftcoast dave

            But the point remains. The DBs are only as good as the dudes in front of them. It would appear Pace agrees. He fixed what first? DL, LBs. Nuttin’ much toward the DB’s until round four last year. No FA, nada. Still not where he wanted to be with the LB corp yet, but signed DBs as the stopgap fix just like he did with the LB corp last year while also drafting #1 and #4 in Floyd and Quik, being disappointed with Bullard in the second.

            Now he wants an impact ILB, another pass rusher DL/edge and he picked OL number two last year. Read that to mean he wants to draft all three of those positions as well as a CB at best available and I think you know what he wants to draft. Then there’s that nagging question of a QB which I hope waits until next year. The wet dream scenario is enough trades down to get Mahomes mid to late in the first while piling up enough draft capital to get the other four priorities BPA thereafter.

          • MB30SD

            Guess we’ll find out shirtly

          • Irish Sweetness

            Why draft Mahomes? Why not jump on Watson and thank Jesus?

          • Irish Sweetness

            If that person is a QB, then it does make perfect sense.

            QB >> SS. QB >> Everything.

            You’re putting SS before the most important position in sports.

            It’s not logical.

            You draft the stud QB.

          • MB30SD

            There isn’t one in this draft. There is no consensus luck or Marriotta.

            There isn’t. Any qb you take in this draft is a big bust risk. Sure, he MAY turn out, but off are you’re going to end up with a bortles not a luck.

            THAT is why you take a MUCH more sure thing in Adams.

            If there was a luck in this draft I would 100% be with you, but you totally and completely illogically apply that view without taking into account ANY of those factors dude… It’s twilight zone stuff. I don’t get it?

          • Irish Sweetness

            MB, this is irrational, brother. All the signs are is that he is a bone fide rock star. His stats say he is.

            He looks like the real deal. We haven’t had a stud at QB for 30 years.

            30 years man.

          • MB30SD

            I’M illogical?!?

            That is insanity irish. Please show me one single fucking article from anywhere or anyone that says ANY of theses QBs are bonnafide stars. One.

            There isn’t a single article or statement I’ve read from anyone that isn’t his mom or his coach saying he’s a bonnafide anything.

            He’s a single read, gimmick offense, running like a running back, college QB stud.

            Who does that sound like??

            Yep, he’s a mix between RG 3 and tebow.

            THAT’S your bonnafide 30 year star?!? Irish, please do just a little reading before you pound statements like this man.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Obi. He gives us all kinds of possibilities.

        • Irish Sweetness

          But not a stud QB like Watson? We can’t use one of those, right?

          A safety will turn this organization around. Right.

      • willbest

        Well if we are reliving 2000, my 1, 2 and 3 are Tom Brady, Brian Urlacher, and Chris Samuels (OT)

        • Sahr Gborie

          do we have the right coaching for Tom Brady?

          • evantonio

            that would be an interesting thing to see – just how crappy would he have been if he was a bear.

      • King of DBB

        He’s more handsome.

        • MB30SD

          is he, I haven’t noticed. Shall we move on to penis size now?

        • evantonio

          anti-semite.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Obi Melifonwu(?) is big. If you want big, go big.

        Can you imagine Obi on the inside of Leonard Floyd? Nobody’s breaking contain on that side. Stuff runs, huge catch radius when he drops back … love to see Fangio find a role for him.

        • MB30SD

          As Rodgers and erra other qb lob jump passes to their streaking te or slot for the score.

          I’ll take Mike Brown 2.0 thanks

    • Irish Sweetness

      If he gets more than 2 interceptions a year he’s an improvement.

  • King of DBB

    Blog question:

    If we get Solomon Thomas, does Fangio:

    A. Stand him up and try and get his footwork down to play in space at LOLB
    B. Put him inside at LDE
    C. Put him in only when Fangio calls the D to alter into a 4-3ish set and have him come off the left side as the 4th rusher with his hand down.
    D. try something genuinely fucked up, like convert him into a ILB where TEs will own him.

    Between Gaines Adams and Shae, I am fucking sick of tweeners. That John Thierry shit is old.

    • Captain Obvious

      I think that depends on how much weight he can carry. Right now, he’s not even close to being big enough for a 3-4 DE.

      So he stands up at OLB occasionally, and plays rush end in the 4-3 and 4-3 hybrid

      • Irish Sweetness

        We cannot seriously expect production from tweeners like Thomas and Allen.

    • He’s 6’3 270ish, so he’ll likely split between McPhee OLB and Bullard DE.
      I don’t think Fangio was pleased w Bullard last season who was essentially a ghost.
      This is where Thomas can come in and split reps w him an McPhee who has his own inj concerns.
      I think a lot of fans are hung up on 3-4 base, but really Fangio plays a lot of 4-3 under-over which is a lot closer to the Lovie 1 gap attack than to say a LeBeau 2gap 3-4

      Edit. This is also why Allen might be tapped. He can also fit the Ray McDonald mold Bullard so far hasnt

    • Ososfan

      OLB he’s faster and more fluid that even our own beat in Mcphee, has better hip movement and everything so that’s what he’d do in the next level in our D, I believe…

    • Irish Sweetness

      Only A could work. IF C, then why draft him at #3. Grab your QB who takes every snap. Or will, in two to three years.

  • 505Bears

    Did anyone else catch that the schedule above is in gold and purple? LSU – Jamal Adams subliminal message going on?

    • Sahr Gborie

      ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh snap

    • MB30SD

      hahahha

    • Ososfan

      Got em!

    • Bear46

      It’s a Fournette message.

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD

    me at spring break: http://cdn1-www.craveonline.com/assets/uploads/2017/04/funny10.png

    (butch is the chick on my shoulders)

    • willbest

      He don’t look happy.

    • Your mail-order brides will take it and like it.

      • MB30SD

        They always doos

        • willbest

          Which ICE agent do you deal with, because the guy in Chicago frowns on the (s) bit…. err… so I have heard.

  • Here’s a brain-game.

    Here is the scenario a genie would give you.

    1. You get to draft Derrick! Carr #1 overall.
    2. You would get the first 3 draft picks in this draft (but obviously no D Carr) + extra high 2nd (38ish)

    Which would you prefer?

    • willbest

      Do you mean Derrick?

      • oh jes.

        • willbest

          So I get Garrett, Adams, and the QB of my choice vs. somebody who looks like he is a top 10 QB for the next 12 years. I think I go with #2.

          • Which guys would you draft then?

            Garrett, Adams – QB at #3? or with those extra 2nds trade back into the 1st?

          • willbest

            Watson or Trub… I haven’t really decided on who is worth the gamble. I feel Trub is more likely to make it a decade than Watson, even though he certainly can manage the pressure. I would need to see how they did in their whiteboard tests. In round 2 I would probably look to pick up an o-line or a tight end maybe a WR if they haven’t been picked over. Foster if he has fallen that far.

    • MB30SD

      2 without a doubt

  • King of DBB

    I have one for Too Soon

    https://imgflip.com/i/1no6gl

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Matt Miller‏Verified account @nfldraftscout 3h3 hours ago

    The best route-runner in this draft might be @CMcCaffrey5. He’s so fluid. His hips and feet are rare.

    • willbest

      McCaffrey’s agent is the best I have seen. This shock and awe buzz a week before the draft is incredibly well timed.

      • MB30SD

        Yup. He’s a fucking 5’10” white guy for fuck sake?!?!!

        He could be the next Weller,… Or amendola

          • MB30SD

            white running back.

            Yeah, go for it. draft woodhead 2.0 @ #3. fuck that.

          • leftcoast dave

            Dude’s gonna excel, assuming the right team gets him. Rogers would weaponize that kid like no other.

          • MB30SD

            I. Doooonnnnt. Caaaaaaare.

            Dave… I only care about us my maings. We cain’t use him @ #3

          • leftcoast dave

            No, we could, but we have too many needs to take him as high as he will go. We need to make that pick turn into two plus ammo to go up.

          • MB30SD

            Sigh

        • BerwynBomber

          I’m thinking the white Ty Montgomery, which is an easy comp as they’re both Stanford guys.

          Solid playmaker but I don’t know if it necessitates all the pre-draft buzz.

        • SC Dave

          I know you hate white guys, but he’s going to be good. Really. good.

          The nightmare scenario for the league is, of course, that Belicheat gets him.

          • willbest

            I guess he could be some sort of Michael Phelps freak, but instead of some human-frog hybrid McCaffrey was crossed with some sort of panthera

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 3h3 hours ago

    Teams picking between 33-45 will need to make sure they are comfortable with R. Foster, cause he will be there.

    • MB30SD

      We should 100% take him over fucking Watson or some other Stoopid shit

      • willbest

        Really? I would rather gamble on Watson not being RG4 than on Foster staying out of prison or off the suspension list.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Yes.

          • MB30SD

            this is why we suck so badly. we only take the good kids off a farm in idaho who have ZERO right to be in a chicago bears uni as a linebacker.

            Foster will be a probowler

        • MB30SD

          yes, they said the same thing about the homey badger, and burfics, and pacman.

          Those guys are all bad asses… no bad asses is why we suck. Gotta take a shot on those guys once in a while man.

          Foster is the real deal.

      • King of DBB

        Why should Marvin Lewis get all the punks?

        • MB30SD

          bingo! spread the thugs!

      • leftcoast dave

        If he is not thrown out for targeting, he will be concussed by the end of the second pre-season game. Dude thinks he’s a heat seeking missile and thinks where his brains are kept are a warhead.

        Any wonder why he acts the way he does?

        Dude’s been concussed more times that Nanci Pelosi’s been to a plastic surgeon.

      • Irish Sweetness

        In three years it will have been the pick of the draft.

        If Trubisky goes first but Watson was Pace’s first choice anyway, he cements himself as a GM.

        Pace hasn’t defined himself yet. He’ll do it by drafting Watson.

        And Reuben Foster is too small to play in a 3-4.

        • MB30SD

          Hahaha, here’s my prediction if pace takes Watson.

          Watson will be taken off on a stretcher by the 3rd preseason game, pace will be a scout by ’18

  • AlbertInTucson

    “…Easy landing….”

    There is no such animal in the NFL.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I repeat myself but I soooo detest this “Let’s look and the schedule as a predictor of the team’s potential success.” nonsense.

  • willbest

    Bears tickets go on sale Monday? What happened to July? I have to decide before the draft if I want to go see them this year? Good lord.

    • BerwynBomber

      Man up. Get in on the ground floor of the Glennon Era.

      • MB30SD

        Or send a message and don’t buy the fucking garbage product this regime has been trotting out and masquerading around as the Chicago Bears for over a decade now.

        • the only Bear gear I have are from gifts.

          Hmmm. Lemme see. An oversized vintage Bears hoodie that can prolly fit Jeff.
          A Forte toy. Still in the box somewhere.
          Vintage 85 hat which eroded after 1 wash
          A small blanket which I use for my lazy chair.
          PJs, shirts, and various trinkets like car chain I somehow end up with.

          My fav one is prolly the classic 85 Ditka jacket which miraculously fits me and is in pristine condition.

          How many times have I worn in in hot ass L.A.?

          “Zero”

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCOsnlY-oZs

          • CanadaBear

            I bought a stocking cap back in the late ’60’s and a cheap knock off sweatshirt (for $5) in the ’80’s. I also have a ball cap that was part of a beer promo. That’s it.

        • leftcoast dave

          Yea, that’s it. Boycott the damn tickets and . . . let someone else enjoy them?

          It’s like boycotting ice cream, dude.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’ve only seen us get beat by the pre-season scrub Steelers in Dublin.

            I’d love to see any kind of game at Soldier.

      • SC Dave

        ha ha ha

    • It’s not like those tickets are going to be hard to come by closer to the actual event.

      • willbest

        Perhaps. Though even if they are bad it can be hard to find them for face value until the weather turns.

    • Ososfan

      Trying to get to the Steelers game. First ever game for me!

      • leftcoast dave

        Only Notre Dame games are like pro games. Meaning, the commercial breaks kill you unless lay back and don’t go all type A over the game being broken up with long commercial timeouts. Its not like a typical college game where television usually does not get in the way, except ND with their 4hr games.

  • Nice survey of draft QBs. Wish they would’ve gone a little more in depth, but at that point, I guess it’s 4rth rounders and beyond, though they do touch on Dobbs a lil

    http://wgnradio.com/2017/04/19/hoge-and-jahns-episode-87-nfl-draft-quarterbacks-episode/

  • BuddhaJoe

    I feel like the Bears could go either way this season. They have a chance to win every game but could also lose every game. I’m gonna be optimistic and go with 9-7 but I wouldn’t be shocked no matter what happened.

    • Johnnywad

      You looked at that schedule and thought that? I looked at it and thought “Shit.”

      • SC Dave

        You just never know, Johnny. If we get Adams and he is all we hope for, we could have a 2001-type year.

        I mean, that shit came out of nowhere.

      • Irish Sweetness

        The games before the bye? Absolutely brutal.

  • SC Dave

    Except paleo guys can’t eat that shit.

  • SC Dave

    Here is how you do a highlight reel. Few, if any repeats, and no need to turn off the speakers.

    Just 6 minutes of awesome.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsOgr5SoG9I

    • Irish Sweetness

      He’s a find.

      And I hope we draft another one this year. A fast guy that won’t run out of steam in the secondary.

      It’s amazing he led the NFL in rushing average at 5.2.

      He can run about 7 !!

      • CanadaBear

        Why is it that all you ever focus on with Bears RB’s is what they don’t excel at? With Forte it was short yardage and Howard lack of top end speed. You do realize that Walter lacked top end speed.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I don’t. He’s great. But the roster can always use a burner. You can always be better.

          He does need to be rested. He’s human.

          • CanadaBear

            Langford is a burner. Just not a very good burner.

          • SC Dave

            Low flame burner.

          • CanadaBear

            Very. I gotta say watching that Howard reel there were a lot of runs where he wasn’t touched until the second level. Some really nice blocking.

          • SC Dave

            Same blockers Langford had. So why was Howard the guy getting to the second level? You already said it – vision.

            Same attribute that makes me like Solomon Thomas. They both *see* everything.

            Now if we can find a freaking QUARTERBACK than can do that too, we’ll be okay. Much better than ok, actually.

          • Irish Sweetness

            So very this.

            We’ll see if they draft one in the lower round, someone they had a high grade on.

          • willbest

            The problem with RB’s unless you run a 2 RB set, you are telegraphing the strengths and the weaknesses of your run game just having him in there. You go 3 wide with a burner, a jump baller, and a guy with the agility to get open and you can disguise what you are going to do in your passing attack.

          • Irish Sweetness

            It’s like Allen and Jackson. Just nice to have.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Howard is a bully with to rock. I like him the way he is. If he had top end speed he would most likely not be the brusier we have come to know

        • Sahr Gborie

          You don’t know what you got till it’s gone

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      The way he trucked Clinton-Dix at the goal line was a thing of beauty.

      I had seen a breakdown of Jordan Howard’s game by Matt Waldman before last year’s draft. This guy knew why Howard was special. Check this out..

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p3zWOrpx1o

    • CanadaBear

      Great patience and vision.

    • Captain Obvious

      That is a thing of beauty. What stands out for me is his vision and patience. Watching him wait on a block, shift his hips, and slide past a tackle for an extra 5 yards… that’s awesome.

      How many 1st and 10s did he pick up 9+ yards on? What a fucking brilliant pick. If he was a 1st round pick, he was worth it.

    • Sahr Gborie

      I’m pumped for the season! Thanks Dave. Bear Down!!!!!!

  • Captain Obvious

    Remember a few years back when OPS went to a trainer and actually got a little bit of muscle?

    I bet he benched 185 like this kid:

    http://www.craveonline.com/mandatory/1251999-dude-bets-can-bench-press-185-pounds-things-take-hilarious-twist

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Oh Browns….

    Mary Kay Cabot ✔ @MaryKayCabot
    Mitch Trubisky still a serious candidate for #Browns at No. 1 despite all the Garrett vibes at presser, sources say http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/04/mitch_trubisky_still_a_serious.html

    • willbest

      If Garret falls to 3, I will need to change my pants.

      • Ososfan

        I’d gladly need to as well.

      • MB30SD

        what the fuck are you talking about??!?

        We should still sprint up to the podium and take either McCaffery or fucking Watson!!

        Haven’t you been paying attention to the abject fucking lunacy around here lately?

    • Ososfan

      Don’t exite us, Cleveland!

  • Irish Sweetness

    One-name posts. No opinions. No explanations.

    Blog poll.

    Who do you think Pace will draft?

    • CanadaBear

      Marshon Lattimore

      • MB30SD

        jesus canada. it can’t be THAT bad, can it?!

        If pace takes that walking pulled hammy after the white incident, he’s either legitimately dumb as fuck… or he hates the bears gig and is doing everything in his power to get the golden parachute teddy undoubtedly promised him no matter how he performed his fucking job.

        • CanadaBear

          That’s why I picked him. He’s not anyone I want (if he had a clean bill of health, I’d be OK with the pick). I really have no idea who they will pick. I’m OK with any of the top guys as long as they don’t suck.

    • Sahr Gborie

      Adams

  • Irish Sweetness

    DeShaun Watson.

    • leftcoast dave

      Pat Mahomes.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Really? You think he’d take him at #3?

    • MB30SD

      …Is RG IV.

      You didn’t listen to a damn thing I said huh?

      • Irish Sweetness

        We’ll see.

        Did RGIII have Watson’s numbers?

        • MB30SD

          Probably… He was also a varsity track and field star

          • Sahr Gborie

            It’s a shame he could not run away from those linemen fast enough

    • MB30SD

      R…G…I…V

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9icgH3AuUSk

      Hope he lasts past preseason

  • MB30SD

    Allen

    • Sahr Gborie

      Adams

      • MB30SD

        adams is who I want… which means they’ll take fucking allen. (which was my point)

        • Irish Sweetness

          Here’s the way Pace is possibly looking at safety.

          He’ll play Demps AND Amos, showing Hall a few looks here and there, maybe at nickel. I don’t think safety is screaming at Pace, he’s looking line and QB.

          I’m with Thayer, if Watson is there(or DE/ QB) he takes him, if the guy he wants is gone, he picks Adams.

          It’s all down to SF. Do they go Trubs or Watson, or does Lynch go safety?

          • MB30SD

            We’ll see, it’s close now

          • CanadaBear

            If Amos’ play last year didn’t make Pace want to replace him, they should replace Pace.

          • Tortured Bear fan

            couldn´t say it better

        • Sahr Gborie

          Have some faith. No way he takes a chance on an injury risk. It makes no sense.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Think Pace will draft that shoulder? He’s likely scratched off Lattimore, Allen and Hooker, I would have thought.

      • MB30SD

        Me too, Which is why he’ll take him. I have no clue what we’ll do any more… The truth is, we’ve become a bottom 3rd cuck org. Just a tad bit better than the browns… But not by much.

        I tend to expect the worse these days sadly

  • willbest

    I just realized that the Bears only play 2 games west of the Mississippi this year and only one of them in the regular season.

    • Captain Obvious

      You realize that New Orleans is west of the Mississippi, right? As is Minny. So that’s 2 games.

      That’s what happens when you play the AFC North (which could be AFC East B) and NFC South (which could be NFC East B).

      Given there are only 11 teams in the entire league that are west of the Mississippi, and each team only plays 8 away games, it’s not so unusual.

      • willbest

        Technically the Superdome is east, west, and north of the Mississippi since it does a U around it, but you can get there from Chicago without ever having to cross it (though if you take I-55 you will cross it twice)

        • Irish Sweetness

          You’re all in the west!

  • Bender McLugh

    Solomon Thomas

    • MB30SD

      Not who we want… Who we think they’ll take bender

      • Bender McLugh

        si

        • MB30SD

          oh, ok

          • Bender McLugh

            No explanation was the rules right? rather they draft Adams of course

  • BearDown100393

    Joanie is dead.

    • Bender McLugh

      Just saw that, only 56

      • CanadaBear

        Really sad. She had been a mess for years. May she R.I.P.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Ah, you got me. Thought my old bird Joni Mitchell had taken wing. She hasn’t been well.

      • BearDown100393

        Joanie
        Joni
        Joanie
        But not Chachi

  • MB30SD

    here you go irish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e2JmFYeb1A

    Straight facts homie. Dood in the tape breaks shit DOOOOWN. Like play by play, fault by fault. Of course there’s good stuff, but like he said, he thinks he should go to NY where he can sit behind eli for TWO FULL SEASONS before even seeing the field.

    …And you want to take THAT sheite muslim at #3? You out yo fucking miiiind, fooo!

    • MB30SD

      oh, and I’m still waiting for all these scouts and GMs you have saying he’s a bonnafied anythang (besides a clipboard holder for 1-2 seasons, which I dooz agree with)

      Liiiink pleeeesssase!

    • Irish Sweetness

      ???

      Some geek in his bedroom, puts a bunch of bad passes together … of a QB that’s thrown 3-1 TDs, and is consistently rated over 150.

      Do Tom Brady and those guys ever throw a bad pass? Like a real shitty pass? They all do.

      That little ducheyne can play 20/20 hindsight armchair QB all day long, I get it, he has nothing better to do. But after a couple years (hopefully one anyway) on the bench, he’ll be good to go. Or Trubs – whoever Pace thinks is the guy – nobody needs to start straight away.

      But Watson does have the time to sit. We don’t have many oppos to draft these guys, and we won’t be picking #3 next season.

      • MB30SD

        Sure, then here’s the one I held back because I liked the film study, aka “facts” more.

        Here’s a VERY measured run down with multiple, current NFL scouts and player personnel execs giving their honest opinion: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000784492/article/the-book-on-deshaun-watson-scouting-polarizing-clemson-qb

        So the net net for me reading what all those real NFL experts (not media) said… is the exact same take away as the film study guy:
        * Great kid with great intangibles
        * Who has the skills and tools
        * But is very inconsistent, and…
        * Has no idea how to run a real NFL offense, and…
        * Is going to need a team with big-time offensive weapons/chops already in place…
        * And a star to sit behind and learn from for at least one season if not more

        That sounds​ like a good fit for us to you? That sounds like a great pick @ #3 for the Chicago Bears THIS year to you?

        You can’t just look at the guy without​ looking at all of the other environmental factors that go with us picking him maings.

        We would absolutely destroy that kid’s career and NFL chances exactly like the Redskins did rg3. It is for those reasons as well as his general look coming out of college, that I call Watson rg4. I think it would unfold VERY similarly.

        Oh, and bullshit. we don’t have time for a #3 pick to sit for any time at all. He’d have to start asap, and you want him to learn from Fred Glennon and butt fumble?!

        @ #3 we need a guy who’s going to come in a vastly upgrade not only that position but that entire side of the ball… There are four of those that are almost guarantees to do just that. So you pick whichever is available and you like most based on BPA + need: Garrett, Adams, Thomas, howard… In that order.

        ANYONE outside of those 4 is a major mistake ( again, for us, this year)

  • MB30SD

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    My entry into the draft contest:

    Solomon Thomas
    Jabrill Peppers
    Nate Peterman”

    I’d def take that draft.

    I’d personally much prefer:
    Adams
    Best CB available
    Best DL available

    …or you can flip the last two if there’s a much better value DL in the second than you think there will be in the third. I’d be fine with either order. Take some QB schlub in the 4th, if you absolutely must (rolls eyes)

  • Irish Sweetness

    Glen Coffee anyone?

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000801893/article/glen-coffee-attempting-comeback-after-army-service

    “Gummo to Coffee in the endzone .. .TOUCHDOWN CHICAGO BEARS!!”

    • MB30SD

      The 29-year-old back tallied 83 carries for 226 yards, 11 receptions for 76 yards and one touchdown in his sole season of work with the 49ers.

      What is it with your fascination with cucks dude. Smh

    • BearDown100393

      A soldier returns to Soldier Field.

      “Doesn’t matter if he sucks, I can sell it” – Terrible Ted

  • Sahr Gborie

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/22/chiefs-cut-jaye-howard/
    Defensive lineman Jaye Howard was a free agent target for us last year before he chose to return to Kansas City. Should we trying to pick him up on a 1yr prove it deal?

  • CanadaBear

    Hey MB, don’t know if you saw this yesterday but Michele Scarponi was hit and killed by a van yesterday. Check out the first clip of MS riding through a neighboring town with a mascot that loved him. It was not his pet.

    http://www.velonews.com/2017/04/commentary/peloton-loses-eternal-smile-scarponi_436120

    • MB30SD

      Fucken a that’s sad. Poor kids.

      • CanadaBear

        If you watch the videos with the Macaw it’s a little uplifting. Otherwise, I’ve known and been on big rides in the mts with racers and former racers and most of them were nowhere near as nice as this guy. Life is precious.

  • Bender McLugh

    Just watched Paterson, by Jim Jarmusch. Excellent movie, the latest from my favorite director. Give it a try if you’re feeling artsy

  • Bender McLugh

    Without science we wouldn’t have TV Dinners.

    https://youtu.be/C-6mI708yWc

  • Sahr Gborie

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/
    The cheese bosses are too cheap to keep this own players and it’s making the coaches very angry….lol

    • MB30SD

      Fuck them

      • Sahr Gborie

        Straight to the point huh

        • BearDown100393

          Its the comment of the year.

    • BearDown100393

      Good.

    • willbest

      They paid Nick Perry twice what I would have so, I don’t know about that. I can’t figure out what Thompson is doing half the time.

      Now at the top of the feed is how NFL prospects don’t like taking the IQ test. I think the NFL needs to fine tune it because there seems to be far too many outliers for it to be useful.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        They will take the test and they will like it. It is a vital part of the slave trade.

      • Far too many outliers? Like who scored badly but was actually “football” smart?

        I think Vince Young and Purple Drank scored like single digits, and rightly so.

        Then again, I think Fitzpatrick scored like 40+ and threw 6INTs in one game.

        Maybe it’s like the 40 time. For some players it can serve as a baseline, but for others it’s just not that vital.

        Like, you don’t really have to be Einstein if you’re a Dlinemen.

        Pass, run, screen. That’s about as much brain power as they need (and the best ones seem to be rather stupid, so maybe there’s a correlation going the other way, like with boxers).

        • willbest

          They pointed out that Marino and Bradshaw got scores in the teens. And maybe there is a warning threshold. But like Blaine Glabbart crushed it. As did a number of guys that didn’t amount to anything such as Fitz who got 48 out of 50

          • Irish Sweetness

            I will gladly accept all the salaries Ryan didn’t amount to.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    The Blake Bortles Reclamation Project will be available next March in free agency. Another option for Ryan Pace if he misses out on a qb this draft/Glennon does not work out/Jimmy G. stays put in NE.

    Blake Bortles – QB – Jaguars
    Speaking on his “Real GM” show, The Ringer’s Mike Lombardi said he expects the Jaguars to draft a quarterback.
    “[Tom] Coughlin’s going to draft a quarterback,” he said. “This is the perfect draft to do it.” Lombardi went on to say the Jaguars need to admit their “mistake” and move on from Blake Bortles. “[GM] Dave Caldwell was always looking through rose-colored glasses,” Lombardi said of Bortles. “Coughlin doesn’t have those glasses.” The Jaguars are sure to decline Bortles’ fifth-year option, making him a free agent at the end of the season.

    • MB30SD

      Sweet!

      Maybe we can also cajole fucking Matt lienert out of retirement. My god, this would be sad.

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        Bring in Vince Young too. Every off season he says he is ready and that some team is going to invite him to training camp.

        • MB30SD

          Fuck it, we’re the bears so might as well pull out all the stops and just give the purple drank a ring

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Tebow. He won a playoff game, and god is on his side.

          • willbest

            He is too busy running around saving lives to focus on sports.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            He is playing minor league baseball for the Mets…

          • willbest

            And didn’t he save somebody’s life in training camp last year?

          • SC Dave

            By laying on hands, I presume?

    • Right cuz we just dumped one turnover machine to get a younger one with a worse arm and mechanics, if that is possible.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cgbZqR2AGI

    • Irish Sweetness

      Lombardi. SMH.

      Fournette.

  • MB30SD

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2705273-warren-sapp-calls-myles-garrett-lazy-says-hes-not-no-1-pick-material

    Well there we have it boys, Sapp puts a nail in Garrett’s coffin. Rip garrett

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      Could it be 1. Trubisky 2. Thomas 3. Garrett on Thursday?

      • MB30SD

        I doubt it. If Cleveland goes all Cleveland… Sf will take him. They almost have to

    • willbest

      4 sacks a game is 64 sacks in a seasons. 2 years of that and he is Canton bound.

      • Sahr Gborie

        Against NFL level talent!?! Good luck with that

        • SC Dave

          It was hyperbole. One quarter of that for 8 years will do it

        • willbest

          It was an embellishment of Sapp saying he only makes 4 plays a game.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Not a big fan of Sapp but the man is very blunt with his assessment. Not much room for his personal feelings. Only what his eyes see on tape. I wonder what other great defensive players see: Lach, R.Lewis, Strahan. Better question: Garrett v Adams?

          • Sometimes great ex players can be over critical, but never know.

            Sayers always was rather critical.

            And Jim Brown too. Called Trent Richardson “average” when entering the NFL and everyone thought it was just sour grapes.

            Turns out, average was higher praised than Trich deserved.

          • Tortured Bear fan

            and “double teamed” in several games

    • That is the one knock on Garrett, that he’s not “high motor”. Then again, that was the knock on Peppers, and he’s going to the HOF.

      I guess if you’re optimistic, you can say Garrett was saving his body for the NFL. Seems like lots more college players are more pragmatic about that.

      If you’re pessimistic, then you can see the Sapp gripe. Sapp may be an idiot, but can’t say he ever dogged it out there. He def got the most out of his talent. (also, I thought Sapp was in jail for something?)

      I think there’s a real (albeit slim) chance Garrett does fall to #3.

      Keep hearing a real debate is raging in CLE over Trubisky or Garrett.

      It’s the same debates most franchises without a QB are having

      Good QB>HOFdefender?

      If the Browns start the QB run, 9ers could get antsy and draft Watson at #2 assuming he’s not surviving us, the Jets, Cardinals, Gmen, Texans, etc.

      And bam. Garrett on Bears at #3.

      • Irish Sweetness

        The Browns won’t pass on Garrett because they don’t need to. They just trade for our pick if they want the QB.

    • SC Dave

      Remember, the only truly great DL was Warren Sapp

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Another one blows his chances at making millions..

    Patrick Pinak‏ @pinakk12 28m28 minutes ago

    BREAKING: Former #Gators DL Caleb Brantley facing misdemeanor charge for allegedly knocking a woman unconscious that “displaced a tooth.”

    Patrick Pinak‏ @pinakk12 27m27 minutes ago

    Alleged event took place on April 13 at 2:15 a.m. at 1702 W University (Midtown), per doc. Brantley likely a 2 RD pick in upcoming NFL draft

    • willbest

      I get that young men, raised in less than ideal environments, jacked up on testosterone don’t necessary make the best decisions in the course of a civilized encounter, but am curious if we are just hearing about this more, or if there is some sort of trend among the gold digging community to piss off a man with promising income in the hopes that a right cross lands a decent settlement.

      • MB30SD

        Jesus dude

  • Totally made up stats.

    Probability of Pace drafting…

    Allen. 35%.

    Fangio and crew believe in pressure over coverage. Remember all those years ppl wanted a Revis but had to “settle” for a Peanut cuz of philo? Well, then skipping over blue chip secondary talent should be familiar.

    Allen would play the Ray McDonald role that Bullard was supposed to play.

    Thomas 30%.

    Much like Allen, some blowback on “tweener”. Guess what? Fangio LOVES tweeners. In fact, he refers to them as flexible assets in his brain. Thomas will mostly fill the McPhee role if drafted, but can also split time at DE or even DT in nascar packages.

    Watson/Trub. 20%.

    This needs little rational. It could be as simple as, “I like Watson”. Boom. A bum convinced the Browns owner to draft Johnny, after all.

    Adams/Hooker. 10%.

    As mentioned above, pressure over coverage. We’re all rosterbating imagining either back there (nttawwt) but I just don’t see it.

    Barnett/Howard. 5%.

    Cuz F-u, that’s why!

    • MB30SD

      Sadly.

      Exactly what I said, this cuck is going with Allen isn’t he… I can see it now? Smmfh

      • Allen to me fits exactly what Fangio wants.

        3 things going against him.

        1. Just drafted Bullard. This regime seems to give some players lots of time to develop. I mean, how long did it take for us to dump Shea?

        2. The shoulders. Maybe it is chronic

        3. Not super “athletic” like White or Floyd were.

        So maybe they go with Thomas, but I think both are favored.

        The closer it gets to the draft, the more risk averse most GMs get, and follow the typical trends QB-pass-rusher-LT-CB top 5.

        There’s really no LT/CB worth top #5 this draft, so that pretty much leaves us with QB/rush.

        Maybe Pace surprises, but I sorta don’t see it. If anything, I could see him “reaching” for a guy like Barnett.

        Not many ppl predicted White or Floyd (the Floyd hype only came with like 2 days right before the draft).

        • MB30SD

          Agree totally. Sick of that shit

        • leftcoast dave

          All of which cheapens the value of the pick in his mind when it comes to trade down offers, if they come, or a pick out of left field for TE, OT or . . . Christian McCaffrey!!!

          • Pace will def trade down if given the opportunity.
            That’s why I hope a lot more rumors start spreading about Coughlin wanting to move on from Bortles.

            If that starts spreading, then teams like the Jets will def look into trading up to land their QB before the Jags hit the clock.

            If I were Pace, I’d be using MI6 shit spreading around the rumor that the Jags love Trub/Watson.

          • leftcoast dave

            Way good with all of that. But I also believe that the C Mac talk is right on for the right QB. If the cheeze got him, he’s break all rookie records on total yards in a season.
            Funny how last year’s “lets make a deal” draft trades looked unlikely this year until the last week or so when the “wants” started getting better aired. Would clearly be the best thing that could happen, getting another two, three and four with enough trades like Pace pulled off with his second last year. Now he’s got the third, lets hope he turns it into a bunny.

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            I continue to think Browns are the best bet for trade if they want Trubisky.
            Pick #2 is 2600 points. Pick #3 is 2200 points. 400 points difference is worth about a second round pick.

            So it will be a lot cheaper for the Browns to deal with Bears than 49ers. I don’t think 49ers will pick Trubisky at #2 and if that happens Pace should call Browns. Pace can still get a pretty good player at 12.

          • leftcoast dave

            Don’t forget the Jets in that equation. But the problem remains that the 9ers have already said the 2 is also for sale. Not to mention the Panthers, Bills, Aints and even Cardinals who have all showed some desires for one or another “beloved” pick. The wet dream would be two hops down, one with the Jets then another with the next group down. But what are the chances that happens?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Oh SF will pick a QB though.

            Lynch is the ink in the ointment. A statement pick of a Safety?

            If not, you’d have to think they’re looking to the future.

            Brian Hoyer is their starting QB? I’m not buying that. He’s not their guy.

        • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

          I doubt Fangio and Pace want Allen. They did their due diligence but I bet they came away with no.

          Here is my guess why Allen won’t be the pick.

          1. He will not be successful at DE in NFL because he is not strong enough. Those shoulders are a factor. He avoided doing bench press at Alabama to preserve the shoulders. If he avoids lifting heavy weights, the big OL boys will push him aside easily on Sundays.

          2. His best position is 3T in a 4-3. Fangio does give some 4-3 looks but i don’t know the exact % of plays. Same with Thomas too (best position is 3T).

          • The shoulders are a real concern.

            No one really knows the medicals. Could see Allen going to SF at #2, or fall to the teens and beyond. There’s always that one player that falls on draft day to medicals, and him, Hooker or Lattimore could be that guy this yr for sure.

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            David Chao, who was team doctor for Chargers, thinks he may not last long in NFL. He started a new website. Bookmark this link:
            http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/profootballdoc/


            As is expected this time of year, his college doctor went public with a positive assessment of Allen’s shoulders.

            Personal physician reports mean very little as a medical professional is not allowed to release any information on a patient without consent. No player would allow his medical status being released unless it was positive in nature.

            Reading between the lines, there is some concern despite the doctor’s glowing assessment. Allen reportedly has moderate arthritis in his left shoulder and mild arthritis is his right. There is no doubt he was a productive college player, but arthritis is not normal for a 22 year old and will only get worse. Currently his doctor already describes “beat-up shoulders” and Allen rarely working out with bench press in college to preserve his shoulders.

            Already playing with bilateral shoulder braces, a projected move to the interior line would place even more stress on his arms as he attempts to occupy multiple blockers.

            No one doubts he can play football at a top level today, but the rigors of the required weight lifting and playing against better opponents could take its toll sooner rather than later.

            http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/profootballdoc/sd-sp-pfd-jonathan-allen-shoulder-nfl-draft-20170419-story.html

          • MB30SD

            The dude who got popped for basically being a drug dealer to the NFL.

          • Who knows you better than your drug dealer!?

            Or cackring consultant bwhahaha

          • MB30SD

            no one… he and I are good buddies. I spend a lot of time with him since all me cackrings have to be special custom made and I have to pay more for all of the extra material used. Sometimes too much isn’t a good thing butch.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Shoulder Braces”.

            JUST what you want hear about a potential first rounder.

          • Forrest Gump shed his braces to become HOFer!

          • willbest

            HoF oneitis and cucking to go with his cross country running and ping pong records.

        • AlbertInTucson

          “…to dump Shea.”

          About the standard amount of time most teams take to admit a first founder was a bust.

          • MB30SD

            Sure, most garbage teams.

            Good teams don’t try the same dogshit at 3 different positions Hoping for a miracle. They see shit and they cut bait after the rook contact.

            We’re obviously in the first bucket

          • willbest

            I would be curious to know how quickly Hoodie moves on from first or second rounders that don’t meet expectations. How many busts have they had in the last 15 years?

        • AlbertInTucson

          2 is Large concern.

    • leftcoast dave

      I’m coming around to a DB being a bigger possibility with the DL having much better depth this year and some potential there with Bullard and the red-shirt kid having had a year to grow into the position.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Never put ‘pressure’ and ‘Fangio’ in the same sentence.

      Over the last 2 years we have led the league in not-blitzing. No team in the NFL puts less pressure on the QB through blitzing. Not cool.

      • Pressure is not the same as blitzing, Irish.

        You know as well as anyone that Lovie at his height rarely blitzed, but Tharris, Ogunley, Brown, etc put plenty of pressure which lead to tons of turnovers.

        Also, you can blitz avg to poor QBs, but blitzing elite QBs (like Vadgers) doesn’t work as much.

        Name the best NFL D as of right now.

        I bet they don’t blitz as much as you think. Bet it’s just the front 4 that generates pressure while the back end clean it up.

        • leftcoast dave

          Good QB’s know what’s coming and know what gets opened up by it. Damn straight, need the pressure to come from the trenches.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Pace is playing this perfectly. This is how you coax a trade with Browns.

    Chris Trapasso‏ @ChrisTrapasso 3h3 hours ago
    Source close to situation told me “#Bears have shown the most interest it Mitchell Trubisky.” If #Browns want him, they have to pick him @ 1

    Chris Trapasso‏ @ChrisTrapasso 3h3 hours ago
    Replying to @ChrisTrapasso
    Insinuation was that #49ers don’t like Trubisky enough to pick him @ 2. If #Browns don’t draft him @ 1 source expects #Bears to pick him @ 3

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    When white privilege is not enough…sad world indeed.

    Greg Gabriel‏ @greggabe 2h2 hours ago

    It’s a sad world when many “fans” don’t give McCaffrey his due because he’s white.

    • willbest

      I don’t know why people think White privilege extends to all walks of life. That being said, I am not drafting him because he is white. I am not drafting an RB in round 1 ever.

    • leftcoast dave

      Wow, what a swamp that leads to with genetics.

      “When she was a pixie in South Florida, Christian’s mom scored so many
      goals for her high school soccer team that her mug shot ended up in
      Sports Illustrated’s “Faces in the Crowd.”

      Christian’s dad? All he’s done is win three Super Bowl rings, earn a
      trip to the Pro Bowl, develop a stiff-arm that could stop a rhinoceros,
      become one of the best receivers in Denver Broncos history and destroy
      forever the notion that white men can’t run.”

      Good article here on the family tree.

      http://www.denverpost.com/2015/11/04/broncos-ed-mccaffrey-wife-lisa-both-come-from-long-line-of-athletes/

      • willbest

        shhh… we are only supposed to notice pedigree in horses. Otherwise you might as well put on an armband and shave your head.

  • Sahr Gborie

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/23/sapp-says-myles-garrett-shouldnt-be-the-no-1-overall-pick/

    Back to the Sapp v Garrett@#1. Seems there is more to the story. Lots more people think Garrett takes breaks. The Browns might not want to take him #1 overall because they want Mitchell.Trub but they want an easy way out = Sapp saying Garrett takes plays off and is not worth #1 pick. Sapp is probably right the Combine numbers over shadow performance on the field that’s why there are so many draft busts these day. Not taking him at the top of the draft will get you a lot of immediate criticism while it will take 2-3 years to really know whether you were correct in not taking him as a top 5.

    What do you guys think? Will the Browns be the Browns?

    Do you want Pace to take Garrett over Adams @#3?

    Would you be mad if we drafted Garrett and he took plays off and was not as dominant as expected?

    • willbest

      It wouldn’t surprise me in the least. But if you got Julius Peppers there at #3, you draft Julius Peppers

      • Sahr Gborie

        http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/story/_/id/19225223/warren-sapp-think-myles-garrett-no-1-pick

        I agree because its foolish to think anyone can know that a given player is worth a
        given pick. Why wasn’t JJ Watt, the most dominant player in the league
        drafted first overall while guys like Jamarcus Russell were? It’d be
        ridiculous to criticize Cleveland for taking Garrett at number 1. It
        might be almost as ridiculous to criticize if they didn’t, especially
        when they still don’t have a starting qb in a qb-driven league.

        • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

          Taking a qb because this is qb-driven league is bad reasoning and doesn’t work. The qb has to be worth it.

          See the Jaguars. Reached for Blaine Gabbert. He was a dud. Reached again for Blake Bortles. And now Bortles is close to being a dud.

          Houston is without a qb but enjoying success. I would rather be Houston than Jaguars. Importance of QB is overrated if you don’t have a solid roster.

          Bears are far from a solid roster. Reaching for a qb is the worst thing they can do. Houston should reach for a qb. Not Bears.

          • Sahr Gborie

            not saying we should reach for a qb. im patient enough to wait till next year for s.darnold.

            however there is no science to drafting a qb. there are things you look for but nothing is guaranteed. you take a gamble and hope it works out. some are closer to 100% like luck while others are more like: j.Russel, r.g.3, b.gabbert and a host of other bums taken way before what they were worth

          • MB30SD

            Bingo!

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’m curious. How is a QB with Watson’s stats – which have been mostly ignored on the blog considered a reach?

            He doesn’t look anything like Bortles or Gabbert. In three years time when he’s leading some team to a Lombardi, it will be all “yeah well, there was no way of knowing….”

            Glennon and Sanchez are not the future of this team, they’re a stop-gap for a year while the boy gets learned up.

            OR

            Pace is trying to win-now and he’s not taking a QB high, if at all (he has 3).
            He’s likely trying to just keep his job by winning. In that case there’s no point in drafting one at all.

        • willbest

          Have you seen the 2011 draft? Watt wasn’t going up against dogshit. Cam went #1, Von Miller #2. Marcell Dareus #3 AJ Green #4, Patrick Peterson #5, Julio Jones #6. Aldon Smith #7 (now he flamed out due to off field issues). The only busts in the top half of that draft were the QB’s not named Cam. (Locker, Ponder, Gabbert). Even Nick Fairly who hasn’t been to the pro-bowl has had a solid career.

    • leftcoast dave

      I’d be mad if Pace could not find someone to trade down with so we could fill more needs. Ain’t nobody there at 3 worth da Bears taking if they can get value for that pick with more picks to build a solid team of the future. That to me means at least six to seven guys from middle to lower first through the top of the fourth to pick up BPA OT, ILB, CB, and S pretty much in that order, with QB or TE thrown up there along with RB and whatever. Get real talent there while the getting is good without picking too high. The future depends on an OT, a stud ILB and a young lock down corner. Those I would make the top priorities and nobody at 3 is worth that pick relative to the quantity which MIGHT be had with a trade down.

      • Sahr Gborie

        most of us would prefer to trade down a few spots and collect extra picks but its not always possible. your pick is worth whatever you want it to be. if Pace thinks Adams or whoever is worth the #3 pick then so be it.

        • leftcoast dave

          If only it was worth what Pace wanted it to be. Were that the case, the Browns would give him their 12, both of their 2’s and a 3 for his 3!

        • leftcoast dave

          There’s a thing in economics called opportunity cost. The cost of picking anybody at 3 equals whatever the value of the picks Pace could take if he gets a trade offer from, say the Jets, to give him their 6 plus a second (or a third and a fourth). What is worth more to da Bears, the 3 pick or the 6 pick plus another second or third and a fourth?
          That’s what the pick is worth. The question is what you value the talent and alternatives to be to your team.

          • Irish Sweetness

            For the Howard fans, a Jets trade is good. Bills might be after Watson, they could give us 10. The Browns might want Garrett AND want to draft Watson or Trubs at 3. We get their 12 ….

            No shortage of partners there.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Surely your franchise QB is worth the third pick of the draft?

        • AlbertInTucson

          Nobody on this NFL Network panel does.

          Of course, none of them is making and actual pick.

        • leftcoast dave

          Sure, if he were there. Odds are he isn’t and odds are you will build a better team trading out of that pick if you can. If not, I’m becoming more resigned to the fact that it might be a QB taken. But I am encouraged by the noise out there that more people might be interested in trading up and the likelihood Pace can trade down. Otherwise, TAKE C’MAC!!!!! (or mabe Mahomes)

    • AlbertInTucson

      Warren Sapp is not an opinion I value.

      • Sahr Gborie

        That’s fine. But is there a grain of truth to what he is saying?

        Do you really want to be the team that took the Browns leftovers?

        • AlbertInTucson

          He’s not the only guy who has said Garrett “Takes plays off.”

          That was a bone of contention Garrett took offense to from Booger McFarland, even though McFarland ALSO said he would still take Garrett first, overall.

          Wasn’t that also a knock on Clowney?

          This is just further evidence that they should hold the draft sooner, rather than later.

          People start over analyzing and critiquing just to fill space or, in Sapp’s case, just to themselves talk.

          Allen’s gone from concensus #3 to out of the top 10 and back again.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Julius Peppers?

          • AlbertInTucson

            When he made that criticism, McFarland made it a point to say that that is a common issue with young players.

  • Sahr Gborie

    http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-bears/quality-more-important-quantity-bears-2017-nfl-draft?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo&yptr=yahoo?src=rss

    Because the goal was a player judged to be elite, trading down was not a realistic option because of the risk of getting none of their targets and instead settling for the next, lower tier of prospects.

    The Bears wanted a pass rusher and the falloff from Floyd was viewed as significant. Clemson’s Shaq Lawson was the next edge rusher taken (No. 19), he was less the speed player that Floyd was, and concerns about Lawson’s shoulder issues proved valid, requiring offseason surgery that cost him most of his rookie season.

    On day two, Pace traded down twice with an eye toward landing one of his top second-round-band talents: Kansas State offensive lineman Cody Whitehair.

    I don’t think Pace is going to trade the #3 pick. He just might take Watson/QB or whatever player he likes if he thinks they will not be available if he trades down.

    If he did not take Lawson he will not take any of these injury plagued bums.

    • willbest

      I don’t believe for a second that Pace traded back to land WH. If you believe in a player, you draft a player. You don’t gamble that you are the smartest GM in the room and only you know where the needle in the haystack is.

      I think Pace saw that there was a good 10 people left that were so close that he didn’t care which of them he picked, and when it was his turn again he say 6-7 of them were still left

      • Sahr Gborie

        That’s putting your thoughts on him. Everything thing in that article is based on observations of pace and words from his own mouth.

        He didn’t trade back just to land WH. He had a grade on a few players that he felt would be withing a certain range. He took a gamble that even if he traded back one fo those players would still be available. It’s risky and you could lose out on certain players.

        I’m sure none of us wants to see his board and how he ranked players and who he missed out on by trading back.

        • willbest

          There are some around here that complain about drafting Kyle Long in 1 because they are convinced he would be there in 2. I am just happy we got a pro-bowler.

          We know who he actually missed out on which can be enough. For example, Chandler Jones has to be the most famous player not drafted by the Bears in the last 5 years on this blog.

          But in the case of Cody he made the all-rookie team. Even if Pace had Jason Spriggs ranked higher, and a very good tackle is more important than an exceptional center, this is not a bad consolation prize. (I am assuming Spriggs develops into the very good category)

          • Sahr Gborie

            Chandler Jones was not a Pace pick. Regardless it was a huge miss. Emery saw a player he liked and went for it. Unfortunately for us he struck out.

          • Ososfan

            Fuck and I was having a good Sunday too and now I’m reminded of the initial fuck-up of the Emery era. Fml. I had so much respector the guy being that he was a hard-ass PT trainer for the navy and all. Smh!!

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    I didn’t realize sports reporters can be so easily misled during these pre draft days. Why would Ryan Pace telegraph the whole NFL that he is going to pick Trubisky at #3 (or Watson)? Even if his interest was real why would he let anyone know that he will pick him at 3?

    Based on this chatter, I am 100% sure he is not interested in Trubisky and Watson at #3. In fact, he wants Trubisky picked at 1 or 2. May be wants to make sure Thomas is available at 3?


    Dane Brugler‏Verified account @dpbrugler 22m22 minutes ago
    Dane Brugler Retweeted
    Like I said two weeks ago, there are several teams who expect Chicago to draft Trubisky at No. 3. We’ll find out Thursday.

    • King of DBB

      Indeed we will

    • leftcoast dave

      Pace wants to sell that pick so bad I’m afraid he’s tasting it because he believes he will have to eat it and take someone he doesn’t want to buy at such a high price.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Cutler was also horribly coached.”

    Meh. He had Shanny the first three years of his career. And Cavanaugh for a few years with the Bears. And it is not like Martz had a bad reputation of coaching QBs prior to CHI.

    I suppose if Cutty had a QB whisperer his entire career — a’la Gase — he may have turned him into Alex Smith with two-minute skills, but that’s about it. And really no top ten QB in league is merely a product of his coaching.

    Cutty was what he was. Give the excuses a rest.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Greatest Bears QB of all time!!!

      • MB30SD

        HOF?

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      Some people have a hard time admitting they were wrong on Cutler. The had invested so much in Cutler as the franchise-savior qb that they impulsively defend him even after he was cut for not being good.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Screw Martz.

      He called plays like he still had Orlando Pace at left tackle and in his prime instead of J’Marcus, “The Whiffer”, Webb.

      Plus Martz was also the guy who couldn’t figure out how to use Greg Olsen to advantage.

      • BerwynBomber

        You can screw Martz all you want but the bottom line he will a) go down as a much better OC than Cutty was a QB, and b) he was much better than the guy (Tice) the masses were screaming to replace him.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Spare me.

          Martz had Warner, Faulk and a pair of high quality Wideouts and a very good slot guy with the Rams when they won the title.

          Then he takes over and gets pantsed in the Super Bowl.

          And what “masses” were screaming for Mike Tice as Bears OC?

          That would be “None”.

          They might as well have named Fred Flintstone.

          • BerwynBomber

            The masses that wanted to replace Martz with Tice because Tice would commit to the running game. Don’t go all revisionist history on me now.

          • AlbertInTucson

            That is a figment of the imagination.

            I recall the reaction being “Mike Tice?!? Ew!”

          • BerwynBomber

            Not at all. I live here. The pitchforks were out for Martz and the masses were chanting for Tice.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Was the blog chanting for Tice?

            Martz DESERVED a pitchfork in his ass, BTW.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, ok. Every OC and QB coach we had in the last eight years deserved a pitchfork in the ass. But yeah, not Jay Cutler.

            Thanks for making my original point.
            #Excuses

          • AlbertInTucson

            Whoa, whoa whoa.

            Where did I say Jay was Mr. Wonderful?

            Nowhere.

            His concept of ball security was punctuated by his last game as Bear.

            Feel free not to make up crap I didn’t say.

          • BerwynBomber

            When did I claim you said Cutler was Mr. Wonderful? I only think you’re looking to belittle Martz, who again was a much better OC than Cutler was a QB.

          • AlbertInTucson

            You just called me a Cutler Apolgist.

          • BerwynBomber

            And you accused me of lying about Tice — or how did you put it? “A figment of my imagination”?

          • AlbertInTucson

            If I meant to cal you a liar, that’s what you should have seen.

          • BerwynBomber

            Ok, so you accused me of being a fabulist. Whatever.

          • Somewhere in Gnome land, there’s da blog reaction.

            I think it was met with mixed reviews. Tice was supposed to execute the “Duh” Offense – which many took to meant – no more of the 7 step drops throwing to midget stuff.

            Many thought this would save Cargo. It didn’t. Because while Martz might’ve been inflexible, at least he had a vision and gameplan.

            Tice was an overhyped Oline coach who couldn’t handle an NFL offense and it didn’t take long for many to realize this.

          • BerwynBomber

            I may have only lurked around the blog then but yes that “Tice will simplify things and pound the rock” was pretty much the rallying cry around the city then.
            And frankly the only reason I remember it was because I thought it was nuts at the time. Tice over Martz?!?

            And yes the cries for Martz’s head followed an all too similar pattern in the Cutty Era. The OC was almost always the first guy blamed.

            Heck, the Cutlerites were even down on Gase.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I will concede the masses wanted to see the demise of Martz and the 7 step drop.

            I know I sure did.

            In an hysteria of “Anybody but Martz” Tice MAY looked attractive to some.

            What we saw from out here among the Saguaro Cacti was,Fred Flintstone. Or maybe a tall Barney Rubble.

          • BerwynBomber

            Martz made fucking Marc Bulger look like a top ten QB when he could remain healthy. And hell, he made Cutler look decent before the latter’s thumb injury.

            Btw, Gase was a Martz guy.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Cutler apologist”.

            Now you ARE making it up.

          • BerwynBomber

            And Marc Bulger? Thoughts?

          • AlbertInTucson

            Cutleresque numbers.

            2 full seasons under Martz, 43 TDs, 36 INTs.

            And I believe he took a hell of a beating doing so.

          • BerwynBomber

            Actually his QB rating was definitely above Cutler’s when Martz was there, but those same numbers sank like a rock once Martz left.

            Remember too, Martz was both an OC and HC at STL. So the entire time he was there, Bulger’s ratings were as follows:

            101
            81
            94
            94
            93

            Post-Martz:

            70
            71
            71

          • AlbertInTucson

            21 TD 14 int and 22 TD and 22 int

          • And yet it can be argued that Cutler’s best season was under Martz before his thumb was inj.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I saw how Martz was with Warner. He’s an asshole. Not just that but he couldn’t accept the fact that his blocking wasn’t good enough to support his gameplan. Adapt or die.

          • A lot of coaches are assholes. Nearly all my coaches were assholes.

            But they don’t give out Ms. Congeniality sashes at the end of the year.

            Landry. Ice cold.
            Bradshaw said he just needed a daddy, Noll constantly called him a dumb hick.
            Lombardi’s wife I think said that he spent so much time at church cuz god was the only one who could stand him.
            Da Coach? I mean, the list is loooooong Irish.

            Bill himself isn’t exactly sentimental.

    • willbest

      Pick a HoF QB. Brady, Rodgers, Brees, and I am pretty sure the Bears could have ruined him. That being said, the coaches didn’t teach Jay to hold the ball low nor did they tell him to just gun it into triple coverage. So your assessment of him being Smith with a 2-minute drill (and some down field threat) is spot on.

      • BerwynBomber

        I’ll beg to differ about the HOF QBs. Especially w/ those Lovie D’s and STs. And especially Rodgers and Brady who don’t turn the ball over. They’re tailor-made for ball control/game management, as incredible as that sounds.

        • willbest

          I don’t know. The defense all got injured in 2009. I think any HoF QB hoists the lombardi trophy in 2010. That is assuming Martz doesn’t get them killed, which is a very real possibility.

  • AlbertInTucson

    NFL Net Mock on now:

    1) Garrett

    2) Thomas

    3) Lattimore. Bear selector, Bucky Brooks, said he would have taken Thomas if he’d been available.

    • AlbertInTucson

      8 picks so far. No QBs.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I think maybe two of the first 3 will be QBs. Maybe different teams, but they’ll be drafted after Garrett. IF it’s true about the weak draft class, you have to get in early.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Wow.

          They just had a big argument over Lattimore and Humphrees.

          Lattimore critic said ” Bad hammy in college?
          Expect bad hammy in the NFL.

          Several panel members said Humphrees was torched down the field often and he should keep the LSU game, among off his resume’.

          • AlbertInTucson

            A QB pick.

            Mitch, er, Mitchell Trubisky to the Redskins at #17.

            The local buzz in Washington is that Cousins has NO interest of remaining a Redskin beyond this season.

          • BerwynBomber

            That would be one helluva surprise by WAS. Also surprised if Trubinsky last that long given all the pre-draft buzz.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Agree.

            And Washington needs defensive help as much or more as the Bears do.

          • BerwynBomber

            If WAS did select “Mitchell” I presume there would be a strong chance they would trade Cousins prior to the draft or every early in the first round.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Much front office drama in DC.

    • MB30SD

      pace takes the biggest injury risk in the whole top 20!?

      Stop that bucky you douche

      • AlbertInTucson

        Chronic hamstring issues.

        Yes,.

        That concerns me, as well.

        • MB30SD

          I wouldn’t go near him with a 10′ pole.

          You’re born with tight hammies, there’s always a pull/tear risk.

          Trust me I know personally. Tore my right hammy in Practice my frosh year. Have always had issues with them.

          Pass

    • willbest

      So he goes Lattimore? Did we fire Vic when I wasn’t looking?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      does anyone really care about any Mock draft?

  • King of DBB

    She belongs in some kind of Gold Digger HOF, a Bust alongside Loni Anderson, Heather Mills and Anna Nicole Smith.

    http://www.eonline.com/news/845508/amber-heard-and-elon-musk-walk-arm-in-arm-during-first-public-outing-together

    • MB30SD

      oh god. Doesn’t she have tons of money herself?

      • King of DBB

        She shook down Depp pretty good.

        • MB30SD

          yup

    • AlbertInTucson

      Pass.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Shows you what a douche he is. How do you not spot that?

  • leftcoast dave

    Just watched the 06 “Casino Royale” for the first time, picked by my kid who gets anything he wants to watch online from a network of friends. Good humor. Not your usual Bond film.

  • AlbertInTucson

    3 Qbs finally a went in the fist round of the NFL mock

    • Trubisky and Watson will go top 10ish.

      Mahomes somewhere later in the 1st. Maybe a team who can afford to wait like the Cards, Gmen, Saints or Texans.

      What I’m more curious about is high Peterman and Kizer go.

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