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Why I’d Make a Deal For Muhammad Wilkerson

| March 21st, 2016

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Muhammad Wilkerson will only be 26 years old when the 2016 season begins. And, if he’s medically cleared, he will be one of the best defensive ends in the sport. He is also available for the right price. But should the Bears pay it?

There are two sides to the Wilkerson coin. First, the Bears have to be willing to bail out of the 11th overall selection. There are not many foreseeable scenarios wherein the Bears don’t, at the very least, swap first round picks with the Jets (with the Bears throwing later picks into the mix as well). Second, the Bears will have to work out a deal with Wilkerson’s agent that is going to guarantee him no less than $40 million. Giving big money to defensive linemen is the biggest hit or miss prospect in the free agency game. For every Reggie White there’s been an Albert Haynesworth.

Would I make the deal? In a heartbeat. Wilkerson is the defensive piece that would immediately put the Bears over the top – a top tier defensive end with the ability to ruin games. Is that player available at 11? Maybe. But why play theoretical when the facts are right in front of you. Wilkerson has done it at the highest level and at 26 he’s going to be able to do it for the next 3-5 years. Is it a hefty price tag? You’re damn right it is. But spoiler alert, folks. Great players cost a lot of money. The reason the Bears have so much cap room is because they haven’t had any good players to pay for a long time.

Swap ones and try to convince the Jets to take an additional fourth. (It’ll probably cost a third but that’s fine.) Pay Wilkerson the contract he’s earned. Go from being a team expected to significantly improve in 2016 to a team that may very well contend for a division title or more.

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  • The GP Experiment

    Wilkerson is the capstone bit of a run. Players like him like to come into winning locker rooms and put teams over the top for the Super Bowl.

    Bears need another building season and make it to wildcard and then go get the big FA. Bears need to show this is a winning club again after the Trestman shit show.

  • Thompson Way

    I voted no, because Muhammad Wilkerson really has only had one great year, (a contract year too).

    • MB30SD

      Tway… you don’t get a vote son.

      Oh, and if you’re not furst, you’re last.

  • That Guy

    I get the argument in favor of grabbing Wilkerson. And I agree he’s great. My big concern is that we’ve paid out several large contracts that are more or less locked in for 2-3 years. If we do the Wilkerson deal, that leaves us little flexibility for 2017 and 2018 offseasons. Draft for the D-line, keep the cap space and see what positions take care of themselves this year and what are the glaring holes.

    On paper, DE might be the biggest weak spot. After this season, we might find ourselves desperately looking for a center, corner, a receiver. You just don’t know till they play the games. I like the deals Pace is doing, but keep the flexibility going into next year.

    • willbest

      overthecap site is broken for the moment… but

      Our FA’s of note in 2017 are Jeffery, Long, Young, and Wilson.

      Wilson hasn’t done anything to command serious money. Jeffery will probably have a long term deal worked out at around $15 mil. Long will be on the 5th year option which will probably cap him around $9-10 million but could cost as much as 12. Young is an interesting case because he has clearly outperformed the $3 mil a year we are paying him, but he will be 31. So I don’t know what you do with that.

      Say Jeffery is on a $15mil/year and Long is getting $12 mil. That takes us to around $125 million (with dead money coming off the book and cutting Rolle and Royal). And the Cap next year will probably be around $165 million, so the Bears will have around $33 million in cap in 2017 reserving some for in season replacement and draft class.

      If we sign Wilkerson and pay him $15 mil a year, then we will have about $18 mil in 2017.

      2018 gets a bit more tricky because notable FAs include:
      Slausen
      Miller
      Gould
      Ego
      Carey
      Leno
      Fuller

      So paying Mo $15-16 mil in 2018 could cause an issue

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Regarding the concussion stuff from last thread, found the following at http://www.headcasecompany.com/concussion_info/stats_on_concussions_sports
    “Concussion Rates per Sport
    The below numbers indicate the amount of sports concussions taking place per 100,000 athletic exposures. An athletic exposure is defined as one athlete participating in one organized high school athletic practice or competition, regardless of the amount of time played.
    Football: 64 -76.8
    Boys’ ice hockey: 54
    Girl’s soccer: 33
    Boys’ lacrosse: 40 – 46.6
    Girls’ lacrosse: 31 – 35
    Boys’ soccer: 19 – 19.2
    Boys’ wrestling: 22 – 23.9
    Girls’ basketball: 18.6 – 21
    Girls’ softball: 16 – 16.3
    Boys’ basketball: 16 – 21.2
    Girls’ field hockey: 22 – 24.9
    Cheerleading: 11.5 to 14
    Girls’ volleyball: 6 – 8.6
    Boys’ baseball: Between 4.6 – 5
    Girls’ gymnastics: 7”

    • willbest

      Cheerleading is 11.5-14? Damn.. Those girls need to hit the weight room so they can make those holds.

      Incidentally, I will add rates of concussion between boys and girls sports of the same kind (soccer, baseball/softball, basketball) to the list of reason why women in combat is asinine.

      • Scharfinator

        Do you think they may just report it more? Not having to be macho?

        • willbest

          In the day and age of lawsuits a plenty? Maybe if this was 1990s data but it is from 2012.

          • Scharfinator

            Your argument only furthers my point though? Unless you believe the macho teenage boys are extremely salacious.

          • willbest

            I am saying the schools have every interest in the world in ensuring all kids with concussions do not play.

          • Scharfinator

            What does that have to do with girls reporting more than boys due to social cues? Athletes try to hide them all the time, but I imagine that girls feel less pressure to because they do not have the super macho image to protect.

          • willbest

            or women are just less competitive. Don’t know why it always has to be about the boy’s bruised ego.

            And yes you can hide a concussion if its “how many fingers” but they have come a bit from that.

          • Scharfinator

            “or women are just less competitive. Don’t know why it always has to be about the boy’s bruised ego.” Yeah – that is a completely fair point too.

            I think my overall point is that these numbers are not scientifically gathered. You have a number of social factors that pollute the raw data and stop you from seeing if there truly is a correlation/causation with only concussions, sports, and gender.

      • David

        I would have to believe the cheerleading numbers are inaccurate; primarily due to the fact that it’s not fully recognized as a sport. Based on the fact that it is cited as “high school”, I’m sure it doesn’t factor in competitive cheer. You could say the same about AAU, but there is a significant difference between competitive cheer and high school cheer in the degree of difficulty and stunting they do. Also, there are no concussion protocols in competitive cheer. A few weeks ago at a competition in Orlando, my daughter took a knee to the head from a flyer and momentarily lost her equilibrium; the routine didn’t stop.

      • Bender McLugh

        so, you speak for women who want to be in combat? Good lord man, sit that one out.

        • BC in Tampa

          As someone who served all I will say about that argument is this; if women want to serve in combat positions, then they should have to register with the selective service (the draft). You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

    • Sactowns#1

      No boxing on the list?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        High school athletics programs only.

        • Sactowns#1

          No water polo? Being on the west coast I don’t think I’ve ever seen high school lacrosse played.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            It was yuuuuuge out in Virginia.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Do they give the horses floaties?

          • Doc Nitty

            It seems to be reasonably big up here in Seattle area.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Couple of years old, but interesting article on the violent early years of the sport.
    http://deadspin.com/did-football-cause-20-deaths-in-1905-re-investigating-1506758181

    • Doc Nitty

      Interesting article. My favorite part:

      …The one and only death in American history caused by weed

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        That was definitely some Final Destination shit right there.

    • Doc Nitty

      On a more serious note, I thought this was spot-on:

      Any casual observer of football’s current head-injury crisis should immediately recognize this sentiment. Nobody quite knows what to do to make a fundamentally unsafe game any safer, but the sport, on both the professional and collegiate levels, has to be perceived as trying to do something about it. So we have national campaigns demonstrating how one armored human can “safely” force another armored human to the ground against his will. We have new rules trying to influence the split-second decisions tacklers must make. These measures are working in the same way the 1906 measures worked: Fans see football as moving in the right direction despite little evidence the game is actually safer. The changes aren’t about mitigating the violence and its ramifications; they’re about mitigating the moral qualms of observers. Reform isn’t for the players; it’s for us.

      • willbest

        I tend to think birthrate plays a large part into it. With only 1.7 kids per womb you NEED them to survive and thrive. Not saying that people with 4+ kids are cold hearted bastards, its just a different risk assessment.

        • Doc Nitty

          That’s why I had three.

  • Scharfinator

    In other news, Popovich is the Belicheck of the NBA without all the cheating bullshit.

    http://deadspin.com/gregg-popovichs-scheming-threw-the-warriors-off-their-g-1766036470

    • willbest

      Maybe he is just better at not getting caught.

      • Scharfinator

        It’s not cheating if you don’t get caught. 😛

        • MB30SD

          No such thing as an illegal u-turn… until you get a ticket or into an accident?

          • Scharfinator

            Yup! It’s victimless until you fuck it up too.

  • CanadaBear

    I’m going with GP on this one. The Beloved are at least a couple years away from being really good (who knows, they might never get there under this regime) with holes a-plenty.

    • Scharfinator

      Yeah, GP does make a good point. We aren’t quite there for Wilk. Then again, if he is going to be a beast for 5-6 more years, you want a player like that anyway.

      I suppose that is a big “if” though.

      • CanadaBear

        Honestly I don’t know that much about him other than what he did last year. It just seems a little early in the re-build to pop for that big piece. Who knows?

        • Irish Sweetness

          That was a career year for him… but then he broke his leg in week 17, so that’s not yesterday, but it’s not that long ago either.

    • willbest

      Wilk might not be ready for 2016 anyway. To me it seems like too big of a risk, even though I showed below we could probably afford him without hampering us too much.

    • The GP Experiment

      Thanks.

      I think the big free agent splash is too Jerry Angelo for us at this stage. Pace wants to show he can build through the draft with some key, mid range agents.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Wilkerson just broke his fibia, not a major bone, but something to get checked out. This is not a fresh player, ready to go. He broke his fucking leg.

    Swapping firsts is one thing, giving up a third is quite another, and the man probably wants what the recently signed Vernon got (17m) or close to. Thinking ahead, he’s also the guy that gets called for a personal foul in a playoff game that ends up costing you a close game.

    What do we have left in cap space? I don’t know that Pace blows his nut in one shop when he’s been so good in the value game thus far. Mo would be nice, but his agent will likely want to be the best paid DE in the universe – and that means at least 17M. So at the risk of a 17M contract and giving up a third … versus drafting a guy at 11, keeping your third rounder and paying him peanuts in comparison, I voted no.

    Good job on the poll Jefe. More of them please, so we know where folk stand.

    How about a trade-down poll?

    • willbest

      We can afford Mo, but then you are out of the splash FA market for a few years. We would still have enough to sign a Travathan or Massie or two, but no stud pass rushers or linemen.

      • Irish Sweetness

        That’s a tricky one. We don’t know who we might need next season, injury-wise etc.
        Tough one. Pace probably passes, and drafts his DE.

  • Irish Sweetness

    So I’m watching Hannity go down on Cruz whilst eating my muesli this morning. It was brutal, Hannity swallowed and everything. Apparently Cruz is going to stop those dirty stinking Mexicans and Cubanos from getting into the land of milk and honey, and make that big old national debt just disappear like magic. So how does a Canadian whose father was a computer programmer from a country that had nuclear weapons pointed at the United States .. .get to potentially run for President ?

    • Scharfinator

      Because the GOP is terrified of Trump.

      This presidential race would be so interesting to study in 100 years – all the fall out, clamoring, and hand wringing. Being in the middle of it isn’t quite so great.

      • willbest

        The GOP is not terrified of Trump. About 15% of the GOP is terrified of Trump and they are being exceptionally vocal about it.

        • Scharfinator

          Maybe so, I definitely don’t hang out with the high ups and bump elbows.

          You have some insider knowledge?

          • willbest

            Just paying attention to who is doing the shrieking, and comparing the exit poll data. Getting the IL data was kind of neat because I know enough about the state to parse it intelligently. Haven’t had time to go over it in detail yet though.

          • Scharfinator

            Exit poll data doesn’t have a lot to do with the actual politicians in the GOP does it?

        • BC in Tampa

          I’d say the establishment is terrified of Trump.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            The Republicans who don’t want to get into a trade war with China and see the economy tank again – that’s probably a few of them.

          • willbest

            There won’t be a trade war with China. The economy is going to tank again, but it tanks every 5.5 years on average, so we are actually overdue

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            “I would do a tax. and the tax, let me tell you what the tax should be … the tax should be 45 percent,” Mr. Trump said.

            At some point, talk translates into action. We saw this with his take on violence at his rallies, and I have seen little reason to believe that he is faking his stance on China. If you want to believe that everything he spouts is completely fake, you can. But I don’t.

          • willbest

            A tariff on Chinese imports wouldn’t start a trade war. And obviously 45% wouldn’t be the number.

            I am not even going to touch on Trump violence at rallies until the protestors stop throwing stuff at police officers, blocking emergency vehicles, and punching police horses. Nothing Trump said justifies that. Nothing.

          • Doc Nitty

            Agreed. Those poor Police Horses…

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            You are so prescient.
            Does it justify throwing protesters around, jacking them in the face, and threatening to kill them?
            Because that happened too.
            If you think this particular chicken came before the egg, that’s your prerogative.

          • willbest

            I could write 8 pages on why there won’t be a trade war with China, but I don’t have that time. I think the thing to realize is there are plenty of things China wants from the US, and some of those might be more important to it than say a 15% tariff on imports from China.

            As for Trump… the media has been calling him racists and Hitler a lot longer than protestors have been getting hit at his rallies. And none of Trump’s supporters are going out of their way to hurt people. Just the stupid shits that get near them. A rather lazy group of violent thugs, and if you ask me that stupid shit in Arizona whose girlfriend was right behind him wearing the klan mask had that one coming.

          • Sactowns#1

            Yeah. People that I don’t agree with have violence coming their way! Merika!

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            So you picked an arbitrary number that was 1/3 of what his target was, and base your scenarios off that? That exactly matches my point above.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            And trade war or not, even your 15% tariff on all Chinese consumer items would be punishing to consumer spending in the US. 45% would be insane.
            Talking about it glibly, if that’s what he’s doing, doesn’t reinforce my opinion of him. Talking about it seriously is mindboggling.

          • willbest

            I don’t understand liberals. Reducing consumption is good for the environment. Making stuff in the US with our higher standard environmental laws instead of in China where you can dump chemicals into the water supply is good for the environment. Not shipping stuff across the ocean is good for the environment.

            Now all of a sudden you are worried that a $50 DVD player will cost an extra $4 (the tariff is applied at point of entry not after US distribution and final retail markup.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I’m a liberal because I think tariffs are, particularly those that aren’t remotely tactical, stupid? You’re hilarious.
            Shifting the discussion on the economy to one on the environment…that’s clever though.
            And the fact is, that you seem to be perfectly fine with a massively regressive tax increase on the American consumer…not very Cato-ish of you. In fact, it’s kind of weird. Didn’t read you for a protectionist. You obviously know what the impact of a 45%, across the board, tariff would do. You must not believe he’d do it.

          • willbest

            I actually, used to be a pretty big free trader a few years back. So I understand the mindset. Tariffs were used effectively by the US to build its industrial base after the Revolutionary War as well as being pretty much the exclusive way the government funded itself for half its existence. There is nothing inherently evil about tariffs. They are a tool like anything else.

            I was just showing how this economic tool can aid social policy you find desirable. And how you are holding a contradictory position on them. Mainly because the only real way impose your own environmental regulations on another country short sending the gunboats in is trade sanctions of some form.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I didn’t say ‘evil’, I said ‘stupid’. And they are, generally speaking, stupid. They are -enormously- stupid when applied unilaterally to trade with China.
            Case in point, the tire tariff a few years ago. Saved us a thousand jobs, cost consumers something like a billion dollars in one year.
            And I don’t recall where my position on China and the environment came up, at least recently, so it was weird for you to even segue down that road.

          • Voting for Trump hoping he won’t actually implement what he’s promising.

            Welcome to bizarro USA

          • Johnnywad

            I’d be willing to bet, regardless of who we elect, 4/8 years from now, we’ll be pissing and moaning about the exact same things. Deficit, debt, immigration, health care, Muslim extremists, social security. It won’t make a damn bit of difference.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Oh, don’t underestimate the human race’s capacity to come up with new shit to complain about.

          • Doc Nitty

            So 100% this.

            Like Bobcat Goldthwait said in the 80’s: “Blaming the Ronald Reagan (insert any bloke’s name) for what’s wrong with our country is like blaming Ronald McDonald when you get a bad cheeseburger”

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Love this.

          • Doc Nitty

            He also said this,

            “Picking a president is like going into an adult novelty store and picking the dildo that’s the least painful”

          • The establishment, latinos, af am, women, voters under 30, muslims, rational republicans…other than that, Trump is gold

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          The 15% that holds the purse strings.

    • Sactowns#1

      I’m less worried about his cultural background and more worried by the fact that he’s a total religious nutjob. http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/ted-cruzs-father-claims-ted-has-been-called-anointed-god-be-next-president

      • BC in Tampa

        To be fair his father is the nutjob, unless he has made claims that he is the “annointed one” then it really isn’t fair to attribute a fathers words/statements to the son, otherwise I’m sure a few of us on here would have some splaining to do.

        • Sactowns#1
          • BC in Tampa

            So exactly how much religion does it take then to classify one as a religious nutjob?

          • CanadaBear

            For me personally, anyone that tries to take away any of my rights to conform to their religion. Fuck each and every one of those assholes.

          • Sactowns#1

            Amen and hallelujah to that

          • BC in Tampa

            Agreed, I would NEVER wan’t to live in a theocracy.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            It ain’t the religion – it’s the imposing of it on other people that’s the issue. Always.

          • willbest

            I have that problem with a number of religions that people refuse to believe are religions.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Ah, will – sometimes you can be such the contrarian.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse
          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            His designated national security adviser promotes the following (courtesy of wikipedia bc I am not going to cite every crazy thing he’s said):

            The belief that former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein was involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and the Oklahoma City bombing.[36]

            Accusations that Republican Party strategist Grover Norquist is a secret agent of the Muslim Brotherhood. In 2014, Gaffney claimed that Norquist had “been working with the enemy for over a decade.”[37] (Responding to the accusation, the board of directors of the American Conservative Union unanimously condemned Gaffney’s charges as “reprehensible” and “unfounded.”[38] The organization also banned Gaffney from its Conservative Political Action Conference.[30])

            Accusations that Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin is a secret agent of the Muslim Brotherhood.[39] (After the allegation was repeated by Michele Bachmann, U.S. senators John McCain, Scott Brown, and Marco Rubio joined in dismissing it, and Speaker of the United States House of Representatives John Boehner said “accusations like this being thrown around are pretty dangerous.”[40])

            The belief that Barack Obama is not a “natural born citizen of the United States” (popularly known as the “birther conspiracy”).[41]

            The belief that the logo of the U.S. Missile Defense Agency is a coded indicator of “official U.S. submission to Islam” because it “appears ominously to reflect a morphing of the Islamic crescent and star”.[42]

            The belief that the responsibility-to-protect norm has been supported by the United States government to lay the groundwork for a forthcoming American military invasion of Israel.[43]

          • The GP Experiment

            Grover Norquist a double agent?

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Yeah, that one is my favorite.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I’m sure there are plenty of reasons that Gaffney Jr hates Norquist, but the most obvious is that he had the audacity to marry a Muslim woman. Gaffney is a whackjob of the first order – the idea of him advising Cruz should give everyone pause.

          • willbest

            What is he advising him on. I have a contractor that believes the moon landing as fake, still does good work.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Well, it’s not like he hired him to work on his f-cking basement remodel.
            He’s on his national security team…so his nutjob ideas are fairly relevant to the position.

          • BC in Tampa

            Hold on, how do you know he didn’t also do the basement remodel?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            If he did, I’d get a home inspector there realfast.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            ha

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Wait, I thought Irish was a teacher. Does he do drywall too?

          • Irish Sweetness

            I wish. There’s more money in dry-walling.

          • BC in Tampa

            That dude is nutty. If I wanted to, I could find advisers from any candidate right now and find some people that are far out there. Does that mean the candidate is going to advocate for all of that specific advisers suggestions, especially if the advice is given in a team environment? Cruz should fire this guy after some of that stuff.

          • Sactowns#1

            Please try and do so. I assure you you wont find anything other than milktoast on Hillary’s focus group run campaign and Bernie has been well aware and tried to distance himself from ultra lefties.

          • BC in Tampa

            No, you’re right, Clinton herself is the sociopath…LOL.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            No, you couldn’t.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

  • Sactowns#1

    The Bears currently have somewhere around 23 million to spend in free agency. That’s more than enough to get a Nick Fairly or Greg Hardy. So why give up a pick? Sign a serviceable D lineman and then go get 2 stud linemen in the draft. I’d say just as much risk but with less expense.

    • BC in Tampa

      I’m good with Fairley, definitely not Hardy after the Ray McDonald fiasco.

    • CanadaBear

      Fairly runs way too hot and cold (mostly cold) and Hardy is a horrible person. Fairly wasn’t all that effective against the Beloved when Suh was next to him. I don’t see him as a step up. The Bears just got rid of a horrible person, why bring in another one? Some character issue guys are worth the risk (as in superstars), otherwise, not so much.

      • Sactowns#1

        Fine. How about Terrance Knighton? There are lots of serviceable linemen out there. We don’t need to shoot for the moon and possibly shoot ourselves in the foot in the process.

        • The GP Experiment

          Bring back Flatbread.

        • CanadaBear

          I’m with ya completely. So far Pox both seem to be on point this off season. The only move that was a head scratcher for me was the CJ Anderson offer. As far as the other two guys, I just don’t think Fairly has a constant motor and Hardy would be in prison if he wasn’t rich and famous.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’d love that fat bastard to put with our other three fat bastards.

          Just have four fat bastards on the line … with four great linebackers, 2 corners, and a single-high.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      I’ve always liked that scumbag Fairley. I thought he had so much damn potential. I just don’t think that attitude and ethic will ever improve.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Then why the fuck didn’t we sign George Iloka? Sean Smith? Fack.

  • BC in Tampa

    Let me just say, I really like the level of discussion in here nowadays, it doesn’t get too ugly in here when we disagree. OK, enough of the circle jerk, I don’t like the DB crop in this draft class (other than Jalen Ramsey), so it puzzles me that we haven’t signed any (other than re-signing Porter) CB’s or S’s.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Still some time, so I’m hopeful Pace will get us some additional bargains out there. Porter didn’t sign with us last year until the beginning of June.
      Ramsey would be a miracle at 11 – please, Papa Bear Halas, make it happen.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        Ramsey at 11???
        or
        Trade for the upper middle income reincarnation of Hampton but with a better tan?

        • beninnorcal

          A less-Trumpy orange tan, you mean?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            it made me laugh but Wilkerson is black so his tan is definitely better than both Hampton or Trump.

          • beninnorcal

            Yeah, I guess you really can’t beat that with any spray, unless you’re really prepared to offend lots of people.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            jessss

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          I know he won’t be there but I’m a dreamer. Wilkerson’s cap hit worries me more than giving up (or swapping) the first round pick.
          On the other hand, mygodthatdefensewouldbebananas.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            opposing OC’s and QB’s would pee. If our D linemen even fell on you the season could be over.

    • Doc Nitty

      It’s usually more enjoyable in the offseason.

      • Johnnywad

        Excepting Victory Mondays

        • Doc Nitty

          Yeah…All six of those.

  • The GP Experiment

    Jeannie is kind of a MILF.

    I’m surprised she’s allowed to go on a pro-Trump screed on Fox.

    • BC in Tampa

      kind of?

    • willbest

      You want to stay away from high T female lawyers. They are ball busters.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        jessssssssss, isn’t that the point? A little pain with the pleasure?

        • The GP Experiment

          seriously, the whole transaction is 45 minutes – tops

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            almost workman-like….efficient.

    • Sactowns#1

      I couldn’t make it past the one minute mark. If I had to listen to this lady talk for hours I would kill myself.

      • The GP Experiment

        It’s like being handcuffed to the set of Jersey Shore.

        • SC Dave

          Or two minutes of any Obama speech.

          • willbest

            Incidentally, something Obama and Trump have in common is their excessive use of “I” “me” and “my” in their speeches. Its why I have a hard time listening to either one of them and prefer to read transcripts. Their self-centeredness is a lot more tolerable with my inner voice than their outer voice.

    • I like the veiled threat at “another type of revolution”. Jibes well with Trumps beat up protestors and sue anyone who calls him out on BS, then drop said lawsuit because he’d lose.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      haha, you switched it to GILF. Classic reclassification maneuver.

      • GOP I’d like to fuck, granny I’d like to fuck, or both, the rare, GGILF…

      • willbest

        There was a Family Feud that I caught a month back when I was setting up our new HD antenna where they asked “Most attractive first ladies”. Jackie O was #1, but then 2,3,4 were Michelle Obama, Laura Bush, and Barbra Bush.

        Steve Harvey’s response when not only the family guessed Barbra but it in fact showed up on the board was pretty awesome.

        • What, no Elanor Roosevelt?

        • Irish Sweetness

          I read a book on Jackie O. What a whore. Jack was no choir boy, but she fucked EVERYBODY.

          • CanadaBear

            You know the difference between a whore and a bitch? A whore fucks everybody. A bitch fucks everyone but me.

          • Doc Nitty

            Never heard that one. Good one.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Jane Fonda (70s) – but she looks like my mother. Helen Mirren – I still would.

      Sandy Bullock is 51. She’s officially up there,and you totally would.
      Halle Berry is 50 in August, and Monster’s Ball is hard to forget.

      • CanadaBear

        Your mom must have been a babe because Jane is still a looker. I think I’ve asked you this before but since you have a thing for Helen Mirren (me too), have you ever seen The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover? Great movie and Helen is naked a bunch of the time.

        http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097108/

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Wilkerson broke that bone which gives me pause but he’s such a bad ass and the season is still several months away. A game changer no doubt in the front line with athletic linebackers behind him who actually play the position like linebackers. Combine Wilkerson with Hicks and Goldman, Young and McPhee on the edges with Houston in the rotation and that’s a pretty solid front wall.
    The Bears would have to work him out fucking hard to see if he could pass a physical I would imagine. That kind of swagger would be immediate and bears boner inducing.

    Would the Jets swap picks though? wouldn’t they just want our 1st pick? why would they swap?

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Would the Jets swap picks though? wouldn’t they just want our 1st pick? why would they swap?”

      If I’m the Jets, I sure wouldn’t.

  • The GP Experiment

    This headline from today’s paper is the summation of white trash America in a single headline:

    Man arrested for sex on Vegas Ferris wheel shot dead near Houston strip club in carjacking incident.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Happy Monday!

      • Doc Nitty

        And I thought my Monday was bad.

        I woke up, stood on my bed to look out the window (for some reason) and crashed my head into the globe that covers the light bulb. Shattered glass rains down on my head and shoulders and all over my bed. I’ve been digging glass shards out of my back all morning.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          so the equivalent of sex with judge Jeannie then being scolded for underperforming and also making her late for her 845am meeting.

          • Doc Nitty

            I’d take glass shards and thank you for them!

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          #talldudeproblems

  • beninnorcal

    I’m really looking forward to seeing what Pace is able to do with all 10 picks, especially #11. It seems like these huge signings, especially on DL, tend be bad more often than goid in the grand scheme.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    holy shit, PFT reporting Bears in talks with Jets for Wilkerson trade ahead of draft.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      LINK!

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        it didn’t happen but didn’t it give you the fucking feeling like we were going to steamroll motherfuckers???? that’s what you want in free agency.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Hahahaha – I keep getting catfished on freaking Wilkerson trades. F$#*(#&$!!!!

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            it’s like when you’re with a good looking girl. Other girls find you irresistible because they can’t help thinking why the girl is with you.
            Other DB’s, Free Agents, etc would look at the guys the Bears brought on and they’d want to be a part of a strong team….maybe even to satisfy their fear of being the only talent on a team and being exposed.
            Bringing in a healthy Wilkerson would cause other people to WANT to come to Chicago.

  • Sactowns#1

    NFL says it will begin playing games in China come 2018. Rodgers dreams of total global domination are coming to fruition but for football to thrive overseas you’re going to have to at least clearly define what a catch is.

    • willbest

      That game is going to be awful.
      1) Massive amounts of pollution
      2) The time zone is 13 hours ahead so their body clocks are going to be right fucked.

      They are both going to need byes the following week

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        If guys needed oxygen tanks in Denver, can’t wait to see what they do in Beijing.
        Enclose the entire bench in a hyperbaric chamber?

      • Scharfinator

        Smog Bowl?

    • SC Dave

      Well, that last part might make it all worthwhile

    • Trac

      So child slave labor is ok but religious freedom is a problem? It’s starting to make sense now, vaguely.

      • Sactowns#1

        Who on earth ever said child slave labor is ok? Who has ever said freedom, of any kind, is a problem?

        • Trac

          My comment was directed at the NFL.

        • willbest

          The NFL was virtue signalling when it told Georgia to be careful about a law it was debating in its legislature that it would likely cost them the 2018 Super Bowl.

          Meanwhile, it is actively courting places like Mexico and China which make pretty much make every crackpot city council in the US look like a paragon of tolerance.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Rampant hypocrisy by the NFL and its owners?
            Perish the thought.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I guess if you buy Apple, Reebok etc. you’re saying child labor is okay.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “For every Reggie White there’s been an Albert Haynesworth.”

    I submit that ratio is closer to TWO Haynesworth’s for every White.’

    • Doc Nitty

      There’s only been ONE Reggie White.

      • Johnnywad

        So you being who you are….how do we properly construct this in the written maths?

        Like —– 1RW > ~√[DEπ] ? Or some shit like that?

        Am I close?

        • Doc Nitty

          Put it this way,

          The chances of a free agent DL signing working out like the Reggie White signing are lower than the chances of you getting suffocated to death by Albert Haynesworth’s fat ass.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            His ass is pretty fat though.
            I wouldn’t write it off completely.

          • Doc Nitty

            Oh it’s not impossible, just how likely is it that Albert Haynesworth’s fat ass ends up on your face? I mean, once it’s there, you’re a goner. It just seems unlikely that one would find oneself in that position.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Gravitational pull, if it continues to aggregate mass at its current rate.

          • SC Dave

            Event horizon danger?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            + 299792458 blog points

          • SC Dave

            One would hope so at least.

          • willbest

            Does Johnnywad live near Albert or is this like the shark attack stat?

          • Johnnywad

            I don’t think so. Now we’re talking about serious math.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Or, at least being stepped on after the whistle by Haynesworth.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Compute the area of the curve underneath Reggie White …..

  • Michael Johnson

    sorry never seen any dt take a team to a super bowl. look at miami for throwing money at a very limited position on defense does. Even texas has the best de but where are they. high price dt are dinosaurs

    • Doc Nitty

      What’s up Big Johnson! You still as fast as you used to be?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Welcome Michael.

      As I recall, our 2006 team was carried to the super bowl on the backs of the defense, and the spine of that defense ran thru Tommie Harris – Lac – Mike Brown. But the foundation stone was Tommie. The 86 defense had Mongo and Hampton, or Mongo and Perry as its base.

      For a change we can look forward to Goldman/Hicks/Williams. I don’t like any of our DEs though. Not one.

  • Trac

    So Ole Jeff thinks you can buy a Super Bowl ay?
    That’s not how you establish your team as a powerhouse for decades. It’s how GM’s lose their jobs.

    • willbest

      Well the Broncos bought a Super Bowl. We will see if the Jags can replicate that.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Ole Jefe…has a ring to it.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      In fairness, you can’t just draft and ignore free agents if you want to contend. And vice versa.
      I don’t think he was advocating either extreme position.

      • Trac

        It has to be a balanced approach, no doubt.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      tell that to Denver. They won the superbowl because of some great late round drafting, hitting on every single free agent and some old 1st round picks from 2011. Look at the free agents on that team that just won. That team goes nowhere without them.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse
    • willbest

      It probably comes as no surprise that I agree with Thomas/Alito in that the US Supreme Court should have taken this lawsuit. Though I have no particular thought one way or the other on how they should rule at this time.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Curious as to why, and would like NBIT to chime in too.

        • willbest

          Because when its between two states the US SC is the court of first instance, its also something of a novel question and they are basically telling them to go bother the lower courts for a while. In this way they get to duck having to come to a ruling, when they could have just proceeded to come to a decision on the merits and be done with it as other states legalize pot.

        • That Guy

          Will is correct, as are Thomas and Alito. This is about as clear of a case of “controversy between states” as you can find.

          Incidentally, there was a case about 10 years ago where the Supreme Court has said the commerce clause reaches federal control over marijuana production for personal use (!). Here, we have a case of one state allowing certain items into “commerce” and then those items being taken across borders to other states where the items are illegal. That’s about as clear a case of interstate commerce as you can find.

          I don’t think its beyond possibility that the Supreme Court would somehow strike down the pot laws in those States if they heard this suit. And that, incidentally, might be why they want to wait. They want to let another dozen states legalize pot (since that’s the way the voters are moving), and see if the Feds want to legalize it as well. If that happens, all of sudden its Oklahoma’s pot law that gets struck down, rather than Denver’s.

          I’m a big fan of privacy rights and I generally support the legalization of recreational marijuana with similar safeguards to those we have regarding alcohol. I think the Denver and Washington experiments have demonstrated pretty convincingly that the sky did not fall with the legalization of pot. I’m not sure Washington is in the right place for that kind of change to happen in Congress, but it is a change whose time has come.

    • Sactowns#1

      How stupid and backwards do these states sound arguing for such arcane restrictions.

      • willbest

        I am not too familiar with the specifics of this but from what I gathered Kansas and Oklahoma’s argument is that Colorado grown pot is finding its way into their state and that given the federal bans on pot, that is Colorado’s problem to address.

        Basically, their neighbor’s dog is shitting on their lawn, and the town law makes that the responsibility of the dog owner.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          So, what’s happening is that folks in Nebraska are breaking Colorado state law that restricts interstate transportation of the legally purchased pot, and then getting busted for it by NE LEO…the question to me is, since these are not dogs, why is the State responsible, not the third party that is actually breaking not just Federal but Colorado state law? I dunno. It’s a weird case and honestly, the fact that NE is spending my tax dollars on fighting this is annoying. There are much more pressing criminal justice issues in Nebraska than small town potheads in the Panhandle.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            And thanks for your responses, willbest and NBIT.

          • CanadaBear

            I saw a piece on the sheriff’s dept in Ogallala county. They were proudly profiling drivers coming from Colorado, confiscating everything up to and including their cars, etc. The evidence locker had been expanded a couple of times. Total BS.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            People with Colorado plates come through Nebraska for one reason. To get somewhere east of here. 3/4 of the state’s population is within an hour of Iowa. Iowa has legalized gambling. We don’t – because god forbid we should lower property taxes by having that revenue stay in-state.

          • CanadaBear

            I wouldn’t lament no legalized gambling. Yeah, there is definitely tax money there but talk about factories of sadness. Although, when you are losing vacationers to Iowa …YIKES! And I lived in Iowa for almost 50 years!

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            YIKES! what took you so long to move to Canada?

          • CanadaBear

            Once I got divorced and took up with a Canadian, all my friends were quick to point out I had to leave the country to get laid. Gotta love your friends!

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Yeah, the problem is that the legalized gambling is literally within walking distance of downtown Omaha. It’s easily available to the people that want to indulge in it, it’s just that all that money flows eastward and none of it comes back.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Okung is a moron, BTW. Saved himself potentially 10% of a whole lot of nothing if he suffers a career ending injury next year.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      not even 10% i think agent fees are limited to 3%

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        You are correct, at least with respect to the contract. Other fees can be higher percentages or flat sums.
        Which makes him even dumber, I suppose.

    • Cormonster

      Hey, how about them Badgers? Not the most gifted team, but they play with a lot of heart and mental toughness. Man was I pumped up last night. As The Nature Boy Ric Flair would say, Wooooooo!

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I hope they keep rolling. Illinois has some serious soul-searching to do this offseason.

        • Cormonster

          Illinois seems to be a mess and it’s a shame because a lot of really talented players leave the state to play elsewhere. Wisconsin keeps poaching a lot of really good players from northern Illinois.

          Bronson Koenig played HS basketball less than a block from my place. It’s pretty cool seeing a local boy have a lot of success. He’s also a member of the Ho Chunk tribe, so he’s a big hit among the Native Americans all over the country.

          Also, a projected Mr. Basketball for Wisconsin next year plays in town at one of the HS. I might have to go check him out next year when he’s a senior.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        This:
        https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/711745994636062720/photo/1
        On the one hand, it made Bill Murray sad…which I don’t like.
        On the other hand, the 10 yr old girl behind him looked ready to thrown down with some fans…which was pretty awful/great.

        • Cormonster

          I think that’s the same girl who was acting cocky with her friend when Xavier got up by 9 or 10 late in the game. Kenny Powers must have rubbed off on her. And yeah, I don’t like seeing Bill sad. He’s the man.

    • AlbertInTucson

      So the Broncos replace one Highly-regarded-but-often-injured left tackle with another Highly-regarded-but-often-injured left tackle?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Still don’t see why Joe Thomas is still a Brown.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Terrible karma?

          • Doc Nitty

            Jesus. What was he named Adolf in a past life? Poor bastige.

  • willbest

    I hope you see this one Irish. Stealing from the central banksters. It was Bangledesh, but you gotta learn to crawl before you can walk.

    http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-03-20/how-to-rob-a-central-bank

    • The GP Experiment

      Irish and I are working on a new media construct, to follow up on our smash hit recording band Zionist Conspiracy, with our million selling first album Chinese Moonbase.

      In it, a Chinese hacker robs the Central Bank of a Asian Rim nation for millions, converts to Yuan, and deposits it in a US bank. He then moves into a south side apartment in Chiraq and poses as a drug dealer where he teams up with a 4′ tall drug kingpin named “milk dud”. We think we got Emmanuel Lewis to play Dud. He hides out from the international assassination teams looking to repatriate him or kill him, and meanwhile finds ways to do good deeds in the hood. We’re calling the show “Child, prease”. HBO has already called us, we’re taking a meeting with Netflix next week.

      • hehe…Asian Rim…

      • Trac

        The Chinese have said they’re at least 25 years away from being able to go to the moon. Too bad they can’t use the blue prints from the Apollo program since NASA lost all of them. Hmm.

  • Can we name FA defensive linemen who lived up to their megacontract?

    The only ones that come to mind off the top of my head are White and Pepp (and some even doubt the latter).

    Meanwhile, there’s Haynesworth, Suh, Mario Williams etc.

    Al said that the ratio to fa dline busts is about 2-1, and that seems about right (maybe even worse).

    I don’t really know if we should pursue Mo cuz I don’t know if him personally, if he’s a self-motivated tiger who truly loves the game wants to rip QBs heart out and eat it for breakfast, or if he’s a guy who views football as merely an occupation to maximize profit.

    We need to like import a team of psychoanalysts from Vienna and conduct a thorough psychological review on such an investment. Or if scientist ever complete map out our genome, pluck a hair and look for the “I’m rich, biatch! Pass the mojito” gene.

    • willbest

      Bear in mind that Miami 2015 was a bit like Bears 2014. I don’t know if it would be fair to call Suh a bust based on the way things went down there. Obviously he underperformed, but lets give it another year to make sure its on him rather than whatever went down there.

      • AlbertInTucson

        He’s been a clubhouse lawyer and basically announced last season the HE was running their defense.

    • Sactowns#1

      Well you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.

      • Yeah, but I’d rather take a free throw shot from an NBA court, and not the carnival one where it moves and is really oval, and you’re half drunk, tired and most likely horny cuz you’re trying to lay the girl you’re trying to win the prize for.

        But, that’s just me…

      • AlbertInTucson

        I don’t recall what White cost the Packers, but I just think the Haynesworth, Suh and Williams contracts were/are virtually impossible to live up to. There’s no place to go from there but down.

        • Doc Nitty

          Reggie was the first FA if I’m remembering correctly. He got paid but I doubt it was as back breaking as today’s crazed free agent signings have gotten to be.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Four years, $17 million…which was alot of money at the time!
            He wasn’t the first, but IIRC it was the biggest contract for a defensive player at the time.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse
    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      ha, i’ll never understand it man.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’ll never understand how every black athlete has a white girlfriend.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Interesting parallel to the Mo Wilkerson situation in NY. If this was the scenario for the Bears (in place of the Falcons), would it make sense to do it?
    Basically, trade down in the first round and pick up some mid-round picks as well as Wilkerson.
    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/59104/tag-youre-gone-revisiting-jets-trade-of-john-abraham-pay-attention-mo

  • AlbertInTucson
    • Sactowns#1

      Most interesting prediction, Irish Jack Conklin. I do like the idea of linemen and would love it if we picked 3 linemen in the first 4 rounds (which is 3 out of 5 picks)

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        he sounds like he should be a 6’4 210 LB Defensive End from 1965.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Wasn’t he in “LA Confidential”?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            i tried 4 different times to get through the first few minutes of that movie for years. I never could for some reason (tired, distracted, too drunk). Then when i finally did it became one of my favorites.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Weird, for me it was “Christmas Vacation”. Didn’t see the whole thing until a couple of years ago.
            And now I HAVE to watch it as soon as Thanksgiving arrives.

          • Sactowns#1

            LOVE that movie.

      • Trac

        3rd Best OT in the draft. Don’t believe the Bears would use the 11th pick on him.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          it’s weird but lately those picks have been better than some of the 1st Round top of the draft OL.

          • Trac

            Picking at the 11 spot gives the Bears a lot of options. I don’t believe they would pass up BPA to take him there but ya never know.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I have to believe they’ll go D playmaker with that 1st pick.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Anything but a QB. This is super bowl time – the first rounder must start.

  • Sactowns#1

    Thought experiment- what position (aside from special teams) picked in the first two rounds would you be pissed about?

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Assuming we don’t trade down or something odd happens…
      QB
      RB
      Guard
      Center

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I was going to say ILB, but only if it’s not Darron Lee.
        You know, because he’s going to be our FS of the future.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          Your Bears wood is stiff for Darron Lee.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Mighty and proud, let it wave.

          • Sactowns#1

            Or at least flop around.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            It shall smite the Puckers fans, and their stupid cheese hats.

      • Sactowns#1

        Those are my top 2 as well. I actually wouldn’t mind a guard if it was some super stud for the left side. But RB would be insane with how many we already have and QB will provide no immediate impact.

        • willbest

          We still have Slausen for 2016 and 2017. Next year I won’t have a problem with drafting a guard in 1 or 2, but this year, that seems like a complete luxury.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            If we draft a guard in the first round ANY year, I will throw moldy apples at Pace at a press conference.

          • willbest

            Don’t like Long?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            See above…
            And that was the first guard the Bears drafted in the first round in 53 years.
            There’s a reason for that.

    • SC Dave

      OG, ILB

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      QB, G, RB, ILB

    • Trac

      Punter, Kicker, Guard, NT, WR, TE, RB.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        aside from special teams just sayin

      • Sactowns#1

        Ah ah ah Trac- I said no Special teamers. You would be mad about us drafting a guard? We could shore up the left side. NT I wouldn’t mind at all. WR I wouldn’t like. TE either but I could see some logic behind it.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          The only WR I want is MegaQuon.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Not that speech impediments are funny, but hearing Al Michaels say Megaquon over and over would pretty much make my week.

        • Trac

          Taking a guard that high is a mistake.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Yeah, there’s not any that are projected as 2nd round material this year anyway, which I don’t think is unusual.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Well, except when it’s Kyle Long…but that was a blind squirrel finding a nut.

          • Trac

            It was also at the #20 spot. Most teams had him as a 2nd/3rd rounder. One other team had him as high as 29th.

        • Trac

          Pace did it right when he found Goldman in the 2nd rd. last year. That’s the round you draft good nose tackles.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            haha, Wilkerson was picked right behind Carimi.

          • Trac

            High price to pay for a NT but let’s face it, the pickings are slim when you get to the 19th, 20th pick in the draft. That’s about when picking players becomes more of a crap shoot.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            i just want to start being the team that picks 2nd,3rd,4th and 5th rounders that become pro bowlers.

          • Trac

            😉

          • CanadaBear

            I wonder how many Jew Bear T-shirts Jeff got stuck with?

          • ohhh that would be such a good prize for the FF loser in our Da Blog league…

          • CanadaBear

            That would be an instant classic. A travelling trophy from year to year!

    • BillW

      Aside from any special teamers, I guess ILB since we got two. While I don’t think I’d be pissed, I’d be confused about WR and guard.

      Then it would just be wonder if it was anyone on O other than a great QB as opposed to the D.

      • Big Mike

        I just said the same thing without looking at your post

    • willbest

      Center, Guard, QB, ILB, or RB. I would also hate a WR in round 1, but won’t fret in round 2. Royal is not the answer at slot.

      • Sactowns#1

        Royal looks like he’s 10lbs away from getting Johnny Knoxed.

        • MB30SD

          When he’s not hurt the guy is a machine…. at least he was before last year. Maybe he’s fallen off the cliff

          • Sactowns#1

            He’s just a smaller built guy. I cant see him staying healthy through a season and lord knows I don’t want to see another player in navy and orange head-butt his own ass.

        • Royal is much better than Knox.

          But I’m always amazed any of those small slot guys don’t break into a thousand pieces when a LB blows them up.

          Talk about balls, those lil WRs have major ones crossing the middle.

          Then again, I remember Mega getting destroyed by Briggs one time going over the middle. Maybe that’s part of the reason he’s retiring. Go Briggs!

    • beninnorcal

      Long-snapper.

      • beninnorcal

        Oh, my bad, no ST’s. Hahaha

      • beninnorcal

        FB, then.

        • Sactowns#1

          It sounds like nobody wants a RB and very few would be ok with drafting a QB so high.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      A lost pick due to a bungled phone call or trade

    • Big Mike

      ILB -pissed
      G, WR, – aggravated.. Maybe confused

    • Probably TE.
      I don’t see any that are worth first two rounds, and they rarely live up to the hype.

  • BillW

    Now the NFL is floating the idea of a game in Germany. (Did they talk about Spain at one time?)

    UK (2 or more), Mexico City, Toronto, Germany.

    One site (probably PFT) speculated that the season could go up to 17 games, with every team playing a neutral site game. Then eliminate one or even two preseason games – and maybe have two bye weeks.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      This is getting out of hand now, seriously. It will probably only stop once they get too close to the International Dateline, haha

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Football on a Saturday….puke

    • Sactowns#1

      I can dig it. I would love to see the beloved play in the deserts of Egypt or the plains of the savannah. But for now I guess I’ll take the less exotic local of Germany.

      • Big Mike

        Just a terrible idea. Terrible

        • MB30SD

          Turrible

  • burntorangenavyblue

    So we put the Bears over the top on defense….then what? What happened to “subtraction does not equate addition”? The offense you were so concerned about? We don’t have a 1st round pick now in this scenario. All signs point to Lace and Fox building this team to be for sure playoff contenders in 2017. If we get the lightning in the bottle effect this year, great. But we need a young stud on D from our 11th pick that will be cheap and we don’t need to sell part of a farm to have the other dude. Mr. Hyde strikes again!

    • Big Mike

      No

      • burntorangenavyblue

        No what?

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    GP mentioned a while back that Shea McClellin just didn’t pass the eye test. When you meet him in person you are not immediately sure that you are looking at a professional football player.
    My friend just saw him in church this past weekend on the west coast and couldn’t believe how underwhelming his frame is.
    On the other hand my dad met Cutler and Olsen once and told me that Jay looked pretty much just as big and imposing as Olsen at the time (2009).

    • The GP Experiment

      I’m telling you, the guy looks like a civilian. To quote Brando, he’s looks to be an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.

      • Big Mike

        He’s gotten a lot out of what he has. Good for him. Don’t see why Bellichik wanted him. Part of his average white boy diversity program. Or his go complex

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          i hope he does well. He didn’t try to fuck us and didn’t give up on us like Marty. If someone wants to pay him 12mil then wow I’m just glad it’s not us. I like having 2 consensus top of the league ILB’s. It makes me happy.

          • The GP Experiment

            I will even refrain judgement on Emery’s legacy with that pick until I see if Billy Boy can turn the kid into Teddy Bruschi.

            I doubt it highly, as Butch or Canada said – it is not possible to teach instinct and aggression into a 4th year vet. Can’t do it. Can’t go there. Can’t play with them. Can’t do it.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            John Timu looked like Teddy Bruschi next to Shea

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’m pumped we have him as a backup now. Timu goes in and they won’t be lacking anything. We can afford an injury at ILB now.

          • MB30SD

            Agree with this, but he indirectly fucked us with his cat chases Lazer play

          • Irish Sweetness

            Agreed. I wish Shea well, but I hope Martellus screws the pooch. Royally.

          • Big Mike

            My thoughts exactly. I really was pulling for Shea. He joined the Bears at terrible time. 3 coaches in 4 years. The same number of positions. No leadership on defense until year 4. It would pain me to see him turn into Von Miller or something in NE. Glad he got a pay day. I think $8million guaranteed.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          i honestly think we will see a new controversy pan out from Belichick.

          1. “brace gate” where the Patriots are going to utilize MIT designed knee braces that increase performance.
          2. ‘Gene Modification’ gate. Players will be genetically modified to perform better
          3. a group of underwhelming prospects are going to Fukushima, Japan on a “Goodwill Mission” only to be exposed to “radiation” that will mutate them into football gods.

          • MB30SD

            I’d try cher-nobly, you don’t want them looking like the toxic avenger

        • Irish Sweetness

          It’s confounding to say the least. All I can think of is that the boy might be smart, but he just never got the hang of whatever it was he had to do. Bellifat has thought : “I just want him to do this for me.”
          And he’ll go out and do that just fine, Bill looks like a genius again.

      • MB30SD

        Dude, so funny. I was at whole foods this weekend and a 6’2″ mushy but big farm boy looking blond guy came up to order something next to me and I Almost took a pic of him to post fo you guys because it 100% could have been him.

    • Irish Sweetness

      And Olsen was in high heels I take it …..

      Bada-tish!

  • Trac

    Ruh roh…Bubba just referred to Obama’s presidency as “awful legacy of the last 8 years”. Shit ‘ s about to get real.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/bill-clinton-trashes-obama-awful-legacy-of-the-last-eight-years/article/2001665

    • Sactowns#1

      Another unforced error by team Hillary. Its like theyre trying to screw up.

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Cleanup on aisle 3 !”

    • willbest

      They will make up those voters with National Review voters after Clinton’s exceptionally pro-Israel speech

      http://time.com/4265947/hillary-clinton-aipac-speech-transcript/

      Muslim’s for Trump!

    • which is strange since hillary has painted herself as barack 2.0

      • just watched it. i’m guessing he means the legacy of obstructionism. but certainly a terrible choice of phrasing if that is, in fact, what he meant.

        • willbest

          Other than killing that awful immigration bill, which would have passed if not for the heroic effort of 7th VA district GOP base, the GOP have pretty much allowed the Obama administration to do whatever it wants.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Bwahahhahahahahs

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Seriously, you’re f-cking hilarious, will. Admit it, you’re really doing some Stephen Colbert schtick.

          • i like you. you should come over to my house and **** my sister.

          • MB30SD

            “Fuck” was the redacted word for those of you not already on double secret probation

  • Sactowns#1
    • burntorangenavyblue

      That hurt my head trying to read that.

      What is the “drumpf” supposed to be a wordplay off of?

      • Sactowns#1

        No word play. It’s Donald’s real family name. http://donaldjdrumpf.com/

        • willbest

          Pretty sure his real family name is Trump. It was just Americanized. Which is a plus among Trump supporters that his family did that.

    • willbest

      There is a decent chance that the SC would consider wearing a Klan’s hood in front of a black person to be “fighting words”.

  • MB30SD

    So to add to sac’s little riddle below… now that we finally have a gm who knows how to/can stockpiled some picks (11 for the 7 rds), where do you think we are/should use them to create some real magic?

    • Sactowns#1

      Hmmm…. I would like to see us move up in the 2nd round. Maybe give away a 4th and 6th to do so.

      • MB30SD

        Move up to what… I think we have the #8 because of the rotation my maings.

        So what would a 4 and a 6 get us? #1 or 2? Who would you target (not knowing how things will shake out of course)

        • Depends. Last year the top S fell to the 2nd and the Gmen moved up and got him.

          If good value is there, I’m for it, but have to wait and see.

          the positions that tend to fall in the top 5 of the 2nd.

          S (which we still need)
          ILB (got two of them)
          OG (Long and Slauson)
          C (Romanian skater)

          and random “red flag” player who was too crippled, fat, or lazy, smoked weed, or showed up to combine interview with an entourage.

          • MB30SD

            So in the second, we’re @ #8… what do you get for a 4? a 4 AND a 6?

          • I forget the chart, but I think for us to move up and get a top 3 pick in the top of the 2nd we’d def have to give up a 4rth, and maybe some conditional future pick.

            It would go something like this

            http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000489975/article/giants-trade-up-to-select-alabama-safety-landon-collins

            But again, Landon Collins was the best S (albeit in a weak S class), so that’s why the Gmen were so aggressive.

            If someone along that tier is still available on day 2 , then yeah, pull the trigger.

            But if there’s like 3 safeties left (or any position) in the same tier on day 2, then we can just wait.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            The top safety that knocked up three chicks in the same month and won’t pay child support but wants them to request food stamps instead?
            I know, irrelevant, just saying

          • Landon Collins?

            Knowing all that, you wouldn’t have drafted him in the 2nd anyways?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Low character guy, but a baller… Eh, I was just saying he’s an idiot.
            In retrospect, that may be related to him being there in the second to begin with. Character issues.

          • MB30SD

            Cunt… no, wait… dumb cunt.

          • Worse than paying for child support but switching own kid like AP?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Can they both be assholes and leave it at that?

          • willbest

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Bravo, good sir – love that movie

          • MB30SD

            One of the best movies evah!

            Keep firing assholes!!!

          • MB30SD

            No way. You can’t do that to a kid, never mind your own. Makes me cringe

      • Irish Sweetness

        A 4th and a 6th probably moves you up a bit higher in the 4th. Probably have to give up a 3rd, 4th and 6th to get into the second. Which I’d do and grab Derrick Henry in a heartbeat.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          I’d assassinate pace to do that for a running back.

        • Big Mike

          You’ve already gone all in on Henry, trading away 3 players is insane.

      • Big Mike

        Moving up is fine, but not giving up a 4th. I think that’s too steep, unless possibly we’re moving to the 1st pick of the 2nd round. Also.. depends on who’s there right? Also.. as long as it’s the patriot’s 4th round. Our 4th round pick is the 8th pick in the round. That’s pretty low.

        • BC

          I’d rather move up to #32, at least that way if the guy is good we got the 5th year option on him.

        • Sactowns#1

          We have two 4th round picks.

          • Big Mike

            Yep. Ours is the 8th pick of the round and NE from the Bostic trade is way near the back. Like 30. Based on what Pace has done that’s 1 a quality starter and a good special team backup. We’re talking about moving up, at most 9 slots. I guess I’d give up the NE pick if one of the guys the Bears Had on their board as one of their possible selection int the first round was there. Could be like getting 2 first round picks.

            My opinion is someone they want will be there at their slot.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Give up all picks for another 1st rounder

      • Johnnywad

        Ricky Williams

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          We’d agree not to pick a running back.

      • MB30SD

        So way

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          Having two 1st round picks means another D starter and possibly an OL starter. Pay Josh Hill and you have 3 pass catching tight ends. Still have a few weeks to go in FA. Holy Shit you’d rebuild almost the entire team.

  • The GP Experiment

    Hulkster got another $25M in punitive damages. Get me some Florida courtroom!

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/03/21/jury-awards-hulk-hogan-25-million-punitive-damages-posting-sex-tape/82093604/

    Maybe it’s because Gawker reported that Hulkster’s penis looked like “a small orange thermos that a child would use.”

    • MB30SD

      That’s still big right?

      Gross analogy though

      • Johnnywad

        So much for that whole roids make your schlong shrink thing.

        • DaMurph

          Shit Johnny, what if it did shrink? LOL

          • Johnnywad

            Mind. Blown.

        • MB30SD

          That’s balls…. I’ve um read… on the innerness

      • DaMurph

        Schlong like a fucking thermos……he should pay them for that headline!

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        “That’s still big right?”

        That comment made my day.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Was it him and Charlie Sheen? I just heard that Sheen goes double adapter and that’s where he got the hand grenades.

  • The GP Experiment

    re Royal: Done and done. Mariani gets the start and is going to Wes Welker the shit out of this season.

    • willbest

      Royal gets paid $5 million this year no matter what we do with him.

  • From Jeff’s link to Jahn’s article

    “I really wanted to come back. I love the system. I love Dowell as an
    O.C. and coach Foxy and everything that they’re building. Free agency is
    always a little nerve-wracking and exciting, but I’m just stoked to be
    coming back.”…

    With Alshon Jeffery, Eddie Royal and Marquess Wilson injured at various
    times last season, Mariani emerged as a reliable option for Cutler.
    Specifically, he became a go-to option on third downs from the slot. Of
    his 22 catches, 19 went for first downs, including 11 on third-down
    plays.” – Jahns

    Hopefully, he does become a mini-welker

    • CanadaBear

      The last few games he actually looked pretty decent. He was playing at speed and making plays.

      • SC Dave

        That’s what I thought.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Do we pay Danny Amendola 3M and get the real thing?

      • Bender McLugh

        love Amendola but he’s never healthy. Pass.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Gotcha. Suppose his salary with us is $2M though?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            64th in receiving yards in 2015, 237th in yards per catch, tied for 83rd in TDs.
            30 years old.
            Has played all 16 games twice in a 7 year career.
            Has never had more than 700 yards receiving in a season.
            Tiny.
            No thanks, not at $2m, not at $1m.

          • Bender McLugh

            yeah that’s hard to pass up.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Would I make the deal and swap #1s with other considerations/?

    Yes.

    I just do not see the Jets feeling the need to include their own #1 in any deal that involves Wilkerson.

    • willbest

      Is Wilkerson worth 2 seconds?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Hmmm…

      • Irish Sweetness

        Give up a second in a heartbeat? A SECOND second though ….
        Hmmm.

    • BC

      If you look at the draft value chart, the difference between our pick and their pick is the 45th pick in the draft (a mid 2nd rounder). So essentially before factoring in any other compensation it looks like this.

      BEARS GET: Mo Wilkerson, Pick #20

      JETS GET: Pick #11, Pick #45

      So if Wilkerson is worth 2 seconds like will asks below, then we would also need to throw in #41 to make the deal work and in that case I would bow out because of everything we’d need to give up and then commit significant financial resources to get the guy. I don’t mind doing the pick swap and then tossing over our 4th round pick (#106) because we would still have the Pats 4th rounder. But I can’t do the pick swap and a 2 and a $45-50MM guarantee.

  • WP4Life

    Josh hill TE from saints visiting.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      6’5 250 red zone target, not used enough in New Orleans.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Benjamin Watson was having a rebirth last season in N.O.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          true, that’s why we may get Hill for a steal

          • Irish Sweetness

            Are we really worried about getting another TE ?

            We have 4 of those dudes on the roster already – it’s the WR room that looks a little underwhelming. Maybe if Wilson’s place was some exciting vet with upside … like a 6’3/6’4 guy … then a Danny Amendola .. we’d be set.

        • That NO system is VERY TE friendly.

          Hopefully, some of that rubbed off.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          Watson signed with Ravens. so NO might try to hang onto Hill.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            they tendered him at the lowest level though.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Yes, and did Ben ever cash in.

    • Trac

      I hope we give him a shot. Whenever i hear comments about players not being used enough, I get concerned because normally it has to do with their ability to learn their assignments.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Just had a total WTF? moment watching a Fox report on the bombings in Brussels.

    They found DNA at the scene and have ascertained that it belongs to the main suspect – who was named.

    WTF??

    1. HOW DO THEY HAVE THE SUSPECT’S DNA WITHIN HOURS OF AN EXPLOSION ????

    2. HOW THE FUCK DO THEY KNOW WHO IT BELONGS TO?

    If anyone has an alternative to the following two explanations then I’d love to hear them.

    1. False flag attack. Patsy’s DNA is presented as the smoking gun. Intelligence agencies unknown are bombing major European cities in order to facilitate an unknown agenda.

    2. The suspect is so well known to the authorities … having been under surveillance for so long .. that they already have his DNA …. and they’re basically responsible for this, and allowed it to happen thru not arresting him earlier.

    And then …. AND THEN .. some racist bitch in the Fox studio says there’s no second-guessing the mindset of these people – and I quote – “it’s a religion”. IT’S A RELIGION!!!!

    It is perfectly acceptable on American television to equate terrorism with being a Muslim. Fuck these people. Fuck FOX News. Fuck Whitey on his high horse using bombings of unknown origin to unleash racism, Fuck them all.

    • Scharfinator

      I would hope it is the 2nd – because this confirms what I already know. Incompetence is rampant in all levels of government.

      • MB30SD

        That’s a downright given yo

      • Sactowns#1

        Except the military of course… we luvs our military!

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Admitting that there’s a certain innate level of dumbassedness present in any subset of humanity…that would be a substantial step forward in our political discourse.
        But maybe it’s that very dumbassedness that prevents us from acknowledging the problem.
        What a conundrum.

        • SC Dave

          A real dilemma, that.

    • I’m guessing it’s 2.

      It’s not that hard to attain DNA from a suspect. Dude is drinking a coffee, throws cup away. Go to the trash bin. DNA.

      But what are we to do with these “suspects”? surveillance them indefinitely? Think about how many exist and what it would cost to constantly do this.
      Arrest them on some trumped up charge in a foreign country that likely harbors them?
      Go in and take them out (illegally) Jason Bourne style? Is that what our forefathers imagined?

      No easy answers, and in the meanwhile, lots more ppl unfortunately are gonna die until the Muslim nations themselves actively police their own (unless we want to go to war with a billion Muslims).

      Even then, it’s still hard. The U.S. couldn’t stop Timothy McVeigh.

  • Trac
    • Irish Sweetness

      This is the kind of shit that gives ‘conspiracy theories’ a bad name. I can’t be having any of these ‘hoax missions’ that rely on weak logic and ‘photos’. Can’t trust anything since the invention of Photoshop.

      Why in thee fuck wold NASA fake rover missions to Mars? We were on Mars in the 1970s. Mariner 9 entered orbit in ’71, Viking 2 landed in 1975. And in 2016 we’re faking moon rovers?

      Unbelievably there is a flat-earth movement out there. Today. I have to believe they are a massive trolling organization. If not, then they’re dumber than the Moon-hoax believers.

      It’s scary. These fuckers are stealing our oxygen and walking around in public.

      It’s a mad, mad world.

  • Johnnywad

    It strikes me this morning how positive the early returns on Pace are.

    In a season and a half, the Bears go from forever languishing in the draft and generally sucking balls in FA, to the polar opposite.

    They’re sitting on a pretty good crop of Sophomores, just signed 4 good to VERY good, FA’s with plenty of cash left over, and 10 or 11 draft picks, not to mention the hiring of Fox and Fangio.

    The proof will be in the W/L column eventually, but so far the Kid is making it look easy.

    • The GP Experiment

      John Madden used to say until he was blue in the face that you build a team via the draft and smart free agency.

      It’s like somebody just listened and did THAT. No draft guru bullshit, just good scouting and decent negotiations for mid range vets.

      • The GP Experiment

        Also, canning the Director of Player Personnel and sweeping the scouting department that brought us Shae was probably an excellent idea. Halas Hall was full of long timers with cobwebs upstairs.

        • Scharfinator

          Yup, I think getting guys as hungry as Pace is really will help the organization. The entrenched elite tend to sit on their laurels.

          • MB30SD

            I have a policy at my company. We only hire ninjas. A+ people. It makes hiring tedious, long, and much harder (that’s what she said)… but it’s worth it to get ass kickers and no snadbaggers (I’m looking at you north west mountain area college scout)

          • The GP Experiment

            2nd place is a set of Steak Knives. 3rd place is you’re fired.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse
          • Irish Sweetness

            For the zone-restricted bitches like me :

          • Sactowns#1

            Always be cobbling!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Glen Garry?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Good for you. I wish it was that way in Ireland. I was never tested in any way for a job, other than tests that were so job-specific it wasn’t true – like if you didn’t already know whatever shitty s/w the company was already using, then you must be an idiot. Never saw any kind of intelligence test. Not one.

        • That was my biggest worry when Emery took over. Kept a lot of the same Angleo guys.

          Hate consistency for the sake of consistence (see, Tice).

          It’s like a new paint job on the same shitty pinto.

          Looks different to casual onlookers, but those who know the car realize it can explode at any moment.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        Pace will tell you that it’s not that hard to be a GM, He has been doing it for years on Franchise Mode in Madden video game.

    • BC

      Emery did good in FA too (Bennett, Slauson, Bushrod), he just sucked whale cock in the draft. Some will point to Alshon/KLong and I would say that even a broken clock is right twice a day. Early returns on the 2015 draft are positive:

      STARTERS
      Goldman, Langford, Amos, maybe Grasu

      PROJECT
      Tayo

      REDSHIRT
      White

      NOTABLE UFA’s
      Bryce Callahan, John Timu, Jonathan Anderson, Cam Meredith

      If Kevin White hits, and the other starters don’t regress then this is an A+ draft class and will give me hope about one day seeing the Lombardi back at Halas Hall.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Are we now saying Bushrod and Bennett were good moves?
        KW undoubtedly does well for us.

        Pumped for this draft on top of FA. PUMPED!

        • CanadaBear

          Bennett lived up to his salary (while making everyone a little miserable). Bushrod not so much.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Bennett did have a crazy year in fairness. 90 catches, 6 TDs. He was a good signing that didn’t do himself justice.

          • CanadaBear

            If he wasn’t such a fucking narcissist I would have liked to have seen the Beloved re-up him. Bushrod seemed like a class guy that was over paid.

          • That was always the knock on him. Great talent, but a malcontent.
            Even the Cowboys rid themselves of him. The fucking COWBOYS.

          • I think Bushrod did ok under that crazy Saints O.C.
            But once he got hurt (and I don’t think he had a history of inj), then it unraveled fast.

            But like BC said, compared to the likes of Webb…

        • BC

          Compared to the nightmare at LT since Cutty got here, Bushrod was a godsend.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Here’s a potential CinC…blabbering about hands.
    “Trump: Here’s my hands. Now I have my hands, I hear, on the New Yorker, a picture of my hands … A hand with little fingers coming out of a stem. Like, little. Look at my hands. They’re fine. Nobody other than Graydon Carter years ago used to use that. My hands are normal hands. During a debate, he [Marco Rubio] was losing, and he said, “Oh, he has small hands and therefore, you know what that means.” This was not me. This was Rubio that said, “He has small hands and you know what that means.” OK? So, he started it. So, what I said a couple of days later … and what happened is I was on line shaking hands with supporters, and one of supporters got up and he said: “Mr Trump, you have strong hands. You have good-sized hands.” And then another one would say: “You have great hands, Mr Trump, I had no idea.” I said: “What do you mean?” He said: “I thought you were like deformed, and I thought you had small hands.” I had 50 people … Is that a correct statement? I mean people were writing: “How are Mr Trump’s hands?”

    My hands are fine. You know, my hands are normal. Slightly large, actually. In fact, I buy a slightly smaller than large glove, OK? No, but I did this because everybody was saying to me: “Oh, your hands are very nice. They are normal.” So Rubio, in a debate, said, because he had nothing else to say … Obviously, it didn’t work too well. But one of the things he said was: “He has small hands and therefore, you know what that means, he has small something else.””

    • The GP Experiment

      Hand across the water (water)
      Heads across the sky
      Hand across the water (water)
      Heads across the sky

      Live a little be a gypsy, get around (get around)
      Get your feet up off the ground
      Live a little, get around
      Live a little be a gypsy, get around (get around)
      Get your feet up off the ground
      Live a little, get around

      Hand across the water (water)
      Heads across the sky
      Hand across the water (water)
      Heads across the sky

    • Yeah, this guy should be president . Now other countries know how to manipulate him.

      • Sactowns#1

        lol

  • Irish Sweetness

    Revisiting Jefe’s deal of the week …. I don’t see why the Jets would swap firsts. His tender requires a first or second rounder. Profit. No swapsies. So giving up our first, and paying the guy 17M … or drafting a guy in the first and paying him 5M … allowing you to splash out on a special guy next year ?

    it’s a tough one. But maybe between two drafts we can get the other guys. Maybe signing Mo is the thing that puts this defense over the very top.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Bears looking to add WR via draft:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000644059/article/nfc-north-draft-winds-rumors-connecting-players-nfl-teams

    And speaking of LB to Safety projects … imagine 6’6 245lb Leonard Floyd as your single-high …

    • CanadaBear

      If you look at the 4 WR’s listed all of them were at the Shrine game and talked to Bears personnel. I’m guessing the same Bears personnel were spotted talking to a bunch of other players/positions at the same game. Who knows? Lots of picks this year!

      • Irish Sweetness

        Looking for a Shaq Lawson reel that actually shows him before and during the snap. Can’t find one. Every one of these things shows you the finishing move, nothing else.

        • CanadaBear

          I like that you look at a ton of clips and really follow this stuff closely. I’m just the opposite. I don’t look at any of these clips until after the draft. I saw some commenter compared Floyd to CD. EEK!

        • Sactowns#1

          Here you go Irish. Don’t say I never gave you anything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RySXCog-n7M

          • Sactowns#1

            Watch Lawson not just rush the QB and move sideline to sideline to make tackles, watch him in pass coverage. The guy is a prototypical football player and I want him in the 1st round!!

          • MB30SD

            Totally with you… I’ve been on the Shaqwagon (boom!) Since day one. Dude is a BEEEAAAST!!

      • Cajuste seems like a mid-round TE flyer. He’s listed at WR, but I bet they’re looking at him to be TE, which is good cuz I think teams are better off taking mid-round “project” TEs then drafting them early.

        The other WRs seem similar. About 6’2 , good hands, and technicians more than athletic freaks.

        In other words, a WR to complement Alshon/White, a Roddy White type to pair with our Julio.

        This might tell me that they are trying to upgrade over Wilson and insure themselves for Royal.Or, could just be sp teams

    • Interesting that we’re looking at this type of DT in Rankins

      “Our area scout really likes him a lot and he’s already angling for us to
      consider him, but he falls outside of the physical parameters of what
      we want from inside guys. I see him as only a 4­-3 nose for a one­-gap
      defense and that’s the only fit.” — Former Louisville defensive tackle
      Brandon Dunn

      Isn’t that essentially Sutton? An undersized one-gap 4-3 DT?

      I think POX likes decent length too, arms, and such.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Irish, I had to laugh. If you were a coach your players would have you killed. Leonard Floyd to Single High safety just made my month.

  • Trac

    Another brilliant common sense move involving the wifey.

    Trac: Hey honey, what’s in the box?
    Wifey: It’s a swing chair and canopy I bought for the swimming pool.
    Trac: But honey, remember that glass table you bought a few years ago that the wind blew into the pool and it took me weeks to finally vacuum up all the broken glass?
    Wifey: This is heavier, it’ll be fine.
    Trac: Please don’t put it by the pool, we can put it under the tree in the back yard because it’s going to get blown into the pool.
    Wifey: No, it’s going by the pool.

    Last week we had a major storm so the next morning I look in the back yard and notice something in the pool. Yup you guessed it, it’s the chair and as I approach the pool to see if I can pull it out, I notice the pool liner has a 2 foot tear in it where the frame of the canopy has ripped it. I’m now entertaining thoughts of converting the swimming pool into a vegetable garden. Sigh. Lol

    • CanadaBear

      Vegetables are good!

      • Trac

        Hahaha

    • MB30SD

      Maybe think about converting the wifey into a bunch of young strange.

      I’ve done my own emperical research and found that route much much MUCH more agreeable boychick. ; )

      • Trac

        Heck no, my training would have to start all over again. Lol

        • MB30SD

          Oh fuck dat. That’s the point my maings… no more minds controls. Can you even fathom that right now?! I couldn’t 3.5 years ago.

          . ..it’s nirvana baby!

          • Trac

            Yeah right. Just wait till you get promoted above your pay grade. That will change.

      • Doc Nitty

        I loled on that one.

    • AlbertInTucson

      My lovely bride leaves pool decisions entirely to me, thank you.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        that’s because you roll old school. When you get home from work you want your slippers, a manhattan, your pipe, the paper rolled just the way you like it and a hot shepherds pie hold the peas please. Is that so hard to understand woman?

        • MB30SD

          Mmmmmmmmmm… sheeeeepherds pieeeeeee!

          … and wtf?!?! Bring on the peas baby!

          • The GP Experiment

            peas rule

          • MB30SD

            Viva la peas!!!!

          • The GP Experiment
          • Sactowns#1

            I believe Al’s peas must be put in a food processor before he can safely consume them.

          • MB30SD

            Oh shit!

            Don’t take that bs Al!!!

    • Doc Nitty

      That reminds me of the time my soon-to-be ex decided to dump the leftover hot embers from the woodstove outside. Which was fine except she decided a good place to dump them was right beside the woodpile.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        lololol

        • Doc Nitty

          Great song. Underrated hair-band.

      • Joecashflow

        Mine dumped em into the rubber trash can, took it out to the curb, next to the wood mailbox post…..10ft flames.

        • MB30SD

          Bahahahahaha

        • Trac

          I’m reminded of the time my wife backed into the garbage truck picking up our trash at the end of our driveway. How do you do that?

        • Doc Nitty

          Joecashflow was low after that I’m guessing.

          • Joecashflow

            So was the grass and huge black China syndrom meltdown of black goo, there for the next 100 years

      • Trac

        hahaha. Jess, they are special at times aren’t they. lol

  • Trac

    2 questions.1) How common was chop blocking? 2) Who is groaning louder, RB’s or QB’s?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/03/22/nfl-bans-all-chop-blocks/

    • CanadaBear

      Pretty common and deadly on DL’s and LB’s. It never made sense that they outlawed it except around the LOS.

    • BC

      Jacob Hester (former LSU RB) seems to think it will devalue the RB more because chop blocks are integral to the running game. Chop blocks are illegal on pass plays.

      • Trac

        Yup, I agree. It will be interesting to see how the QB’S will be effected because pass rushers won’t have to be worried about having their knees taken out on draw plays. I predict sacks will go up considerably this year.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Trent Richardson headed to Ravens to continue his career of underachieving at the running back position.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I believe it was just an invitation to their camp and nothing is guaranteed.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        So at least one franchise figured it out ahead of time.

    • Bender McLugh

      man, I was one on here who thought he was going to be spectacular. BEAST. Don’t know what happened with him, big time bust.

      • Bender McLugh

        EDIT: one of a few on here

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        If I could find my old posts about him…Artoo loved him.

        • yeah, I remember in his FF league, I tried giving him Lynch for Trich, and he didn’t want to let Trich go.

          I thought Trich might be like a Lynch, but from most accounts, he just doesn’t put in the work.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            My argument about him heading into the draft was basically this.
            He backed up Ingram for a year.
            Ingram put up reasonable numbers in college, goes to the pros and is pedestrian.
            Richardson comes in, plays on a nearly identical roster, and mirrors Ingrams production.
            Ergo, he’s going to be pedestrian in the pros.
            And….he was/has/will continue to be pedestrian.
            There was not enough objective evidence, in the most controlled setting you’re going to find to compare two college players at the same position, to justify picking him in the top 10, much less what actually happened.

          • One can argue that Trich is the reason teams will no longer draft HBs in the 1st round, much less top 10 (unless they think the RB’s the next AP).

            Those Bama backs are always hard to figure out cuz of the system. I feel the same way about their LBs and S. When you play behind a dominant line, it’s kinda easy to look good.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I recall someone saying ‘the experts’ did think he’d be the next AP (thanks Google). Drafting a HB top 10 at all is bananaanananananas.
            I really enjoy getting that one prediction right since so many others have been less than correct.

          • MB30SD

            Thass how real people eat they bananas

        • Bender McLugh

          I meant to say “one of a few”, I was definitely not alone

  • AlbertInTucson

    Robert Kraft has asked the NFL to restore the draft picks they were penalized.

    Kraft’s convoluted “new evidence” reasoning was that Tommy had a nice year in 2015 without
    any monkeying with the footballs.

    Sources reporting the NFL says there is “Zero Chance” of New England getting those picks back.

    Sorry, Bob, but I THINK you just tacitly admitted that,

    “Yeah, we deflated the footballs before but last year proves it really didn’t make a difference so that makes it OK that we messed with footballs.”

    Same rationale for the old “Spygate” crap.

    “Well, even though we DID tape the opponents, we really couldn’t LEARN anything from the video so, again, that makes it OK.”

    “We tried to cheat, but the cheating didn’t work so, it’s OK that we tried to cheat.”

    • Scharfinator

      Yeah I mean, if you attempt murder but don’t finish it out, it doesn’t count right?

      …. Wait!

    • Bender McLugh

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse
    • MB30SD

      Hahahahaha

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Asked what was the ONE rule change he would make in the NFL, Peter King responded that DPI should be a 15 yard penalty, not a spot foul.
    Peter King is an idiot.
    Discuss.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      haha, way to think that one through Peter.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Sorry. have to agree.

      As wrong as the NCAA is on it’s OT concept, I am all FOR the college rule on DPI. Spot foul or 15 yards, which ever is shorter.

      It still carries an automatic first down.

      The table is tilted enough toward the offense.

      The concept of 3o, 40 or 50 yard penalties is ridiculous.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        So, once you get beat deep, just tackle the receiver?

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          yup…or let’s say you even stay with the WR but at the end you’re losing ground or your late coming back to the ball, just tackle him and take the 15yd penalty instead of a 50yd reception or TD.

          • The GP Experiment

            Better yet, go Jack Tatum on him. Take his head off.

            The penalty isn’t cumulative, so it’s a 15 yard personal foul and that’s all.

          • MB30SD

            Peter king’s head? Good compromise!

          • That Guy

            The compromise is to make it a spot foul for something like “flagrant PI,” which would essentially be where the CB commits a personal foul while interfering with the pass or just where the CB intentionally tackles the receiver without attending to make a play on the ball..

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Anything that brings ‘intention’ into it is bound to get abused.

        • AlbertInTucson

          But if you’re “beat”, you are more than likely not in a position to haul him down

      • The GP Experiment

        Al –

        Dragging a wideout to the ground and taking a 15 yard penalty on a 55 yard bomb to win the game would instantly change your mind.

        • BillW

          This has always been my gripe – and a huge one:

          If DPI is an automatic completion (spot of the foul) then OPI should be an automatic interception.

          As it is, it’s only a ten yard penalty AND you get the down over!

          So if an interception is likely, the receiver can (and certainly should) tackle the defender.

          While I understand the solution of flagrant DPI (spot foul) versus “regular” (15 yards) is dicey, we already have 50 yard DPI penalties that are judgement calls.

          Too much reward for the offense – UNLESS they fix the OPI inconsistency.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            So make the OPI a loss-of-down penalty + 10 yards enforceable at the option of the opposing team, from the LOS.

          • BillW

            I’m good with that. Make it like intentional grounding.

            But I’ve never heard that proposed in the media or by the rules committee. Too in love with the offense and QBs.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            They need to call me.

          • Johnnywad

            LOL. Let’s get that set up. These fuckers need some straight talk.

        • AlbertInTucson

          People SAY that all the time but its easier said than done.

          You don’t see it in the college game.

          I don’t buy that argument at all.

          • Irish Sweetness

            If I was a DB I’d do it. 5 seconds left? No brainer. Clothesline.

      • Then what would be the incentive of teams throwing it deep?

        1. Not many QBs can hit those go routes (teddy, anyone?)
        2. Not many OCs have the balls to be that aggressive preferring Trestman’s pussy WCO
        3. Take away that DPI spot penalty, then really make gameplans more conservative.

        I don’t know about you, but I for one love seeing the deep ball.
        It’s an exciting play and I don’t want it to go extinct like a KR

        • BillW

          A penalty should not be a goal of a football play. Not even a thought.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Well, screw it then – let’s just let them wrassle.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I do not think that would impact throwing it deep one iota.

      • BillW

        You’re far from the only one. I know a lot of people that are against a QB Favre-ing it up hoping for a call.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          It’s not about whether a call gets made, it’s about the penalty.

    • MB30SD

      No discussion necessary. Dude is a straight fucking doorknob

  • AlbertInTucson

    From the “Everyone is entitled to OUR opinion” file…

    Local woman goes to the Trump rally here over the weekend. She’s Hispanic. She goes early and sits front & center. She holds a sign Trump likes. He brings her up on stage and gives her a hug.

    NOW she’s getting a raft of hate mail, threatening phone calls and enduring calls to boycott the restaurant that she owns with her husband.

    That. Is. Crap.

    Those are the same kind of folks who decided to block access to the Trump appearance in Phoenix.

    If you don’t like Trump, (and I’m not here to endorse him, or anybody else) fine.

    Vote for somebody else.

    Campaign for somebody else.

    Donate to somebody else.

    You want to hold up a sign that says “I hate Trump”? Fine.

    But this “tactic” of threatening an opponent’s supporters and trying to disrupt their campaign appearances is absolute bullshit.

    Worse than that, it’s straight out of “The Nazi Handbook 101”

    Ironically, it’s behavior coming from some of the same folks who are the first ones to happily label THEIR opponents as “Nazis”.

  • Jokey

    Anyone see this? KW had surgery in August? WTF he was sitting the whole year, and they waited until August to decide to do surgery? http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000646592/article/bears-gm-ryan-pace-kevin-white-100-percent-healthy

    • The GP Experiment

      Ummm?

      August of 2015. He injured the leg in camp. Camp started in May. They looked at it, waited to see how the bone would respond, and then had to line up a TOP surgeon because they were effectively shimming his fibula with a metal rod. Look at the details of what he had done.

      Most people would have had to wait a year for a job of that complexity.

      • Jokey

        sorry – long day

    • White washed!

      White’s health has steadily improved since last summer and General Manager Ryan Pace said Tuesday that the wideout is “100 percent healthy”ahead of the start of the team’s offseason program. Pace said that there would probably be some limits on White once that program gets underway because of how long he’s been out of action, but that White is otherwise ready for action.

      “Now, it’s just him, that mental confidence to go full speed,” Pace said, via the Chicago Sun-Times.
      “I think he’s there. Like I told you before, he’s got the biggest smileon his face because I think he’s eager to show everybody what he can do. So we’re fired up about that.”

      http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/03/22/bears-fired-up-about-kevin-white-being-healthy/

      • Sactowns#1

        What’s it going to be when he hits the field… a year and a half since he last played a down?

        • It’s been a while. Hopefully, he did some “mental reps”. But, he should be ready to roll by the 3rd PS game.
          I imagine he’ll get some extended PS time to return him to football shape, then it’s on!

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    New thread.

  • Doc Nitty

    test

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