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Thoughts on Round One (With a Significant Bears Slant)

| April 29th, 2016

#1. Do I like the Bears selection of Leonard Floyd with the ninth overall pick in the draft? Honest to goodness, I have no idea. Adam Jahns spelled out the reasons this selection is no sure thing but the reasons the Bears made the move are clear: they wanted more speed and athleticism on the edge. They got it.

#2. The Bears moved up to get Floyd because the whole world, especially the whole world here in New York, knew the Giants coveted the Georgia linebacker. If the Giants value a pass rusher enough to make him a top ten pick, chances are he’s a damn good pass rusher. The last time the Giants got that position wrong in the draft was pre-George Young.

#3. This wasn’t the Bears choosing from what was left on the board when their time came to pick. This was the guy they wanted and they aggressively pursued him. For that, Ryan Pace should be applauded.

#4. The three Bama guys, Dodd, Jack, Ogbah, Spence…etc. There is still a lot of defensive talent on the board for the Bears to like in round two. But the player I hope they look at is Cody Whitehair, guard, KSU. Would he start right away? Maybe not. But with the way Slauson played at center in 2015, he sure could.

#5. A few thoughts from Around the League:

  • Feel awful for Myles Jack. Football is a brutal game. Why do guys like him attend the draft when they know the prospect of falling is possible?
  • I actually think Laremy Tunsil admitting to taking money from coaches was weirder than the end times weed video being released like 90 seconds before the draft. If he really was hacked he was hacked by somebody who HATES him.
  • Bears screwed the Giants. There is no chance they had Eli Apple that high on the board. I’m confident saying this.
  • You know the NFL has gone QB CRAZY when three teams are jockeying for Paxton Lynch in the first round. Lynch is a nice prospect but he’s a mile from being a productive NFL quarterback.
  • Pretty sure the only college tape Rex Ryan watches is Clemson so the Shaq Lawson picked seemed obvious.
  • Tight end has become a game-changing position in the NFL. There went another first round proving the position is nowhere to be found on the college field. The divide between pro talent and college talent is widening.
  • I trust Baylor offensive players less than I trust Bama defenders. Pretty soon NFL scouts are going to realize what Briles does at Baylor is no different than what Leach did at Texas Tech for years.

#6. Congrats to the 7 out of 266 contestants in our draft contest who correctly identified Leonard Floyd as the Bears first pick. (I reached out to all seven of you last night.) Each now is tasked with guessing the Bears second round pick. And there’s a points system! 5 points for naming right player. 3 points for naming right position. 1 point for naming right side of the ball. Leaders after the second round move on to Saturday’s fourth round.

Of the 266 entries:

  • 123 chose Shaq Lawson.
  • 48 chose Ezekiel Elliot.
  • 35 people chose players not selected in the first round (Spence, Ogbah, Jack, Ragland, Robinson).
  • The rest were pretty spread out, including one contestant aggressively believing the Besrs would end up with Laremy Tunsil. Almost looked like a genius pick.

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  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    1st and it is way too early in the morning.

  • The Yes Guy

    YES

  • Trac

    It’s supposed that the giants were going to use Floyd at SAM LB. Will the Bears do this as well? I would be up for that.

    • TomC

      You mean move him inside? (Sam is a 4-3 position.) No way. Did you watch the Vanderbilt game someone posted in the draft thread? Floyd looked lost on the inside, but when they put him on the edge and said “go get the QB,” he was unstoppable. If that rumor is true, the Giants are idiots.

      • Big Mike

        The guy is a pure speed rusher right now. He’s got some very nice moves, He’s faster than some teams WRs. He has long enough arms to get free, just needs to get a bit stronger. I think he’s going to be a game changer.

        • DaMurph

          I hope youre right, they bulked up Richard Dent and you see what happened.

          • Big Mike

            Plus 1 for historical accuracy. Minus 2 for equating anything that happens in Halas hall with ancient History. Dent simply had bad teeth and didn’t eat right. They fixed his teeth and he went from 230 to 265

          • DaMurph

            I was gonna throw the teeth in there but I figured maybe they have a plan to beef him up, add 20lbs to him and see what happens

        • Floyd also has a nice punch. I think that’s what the scouts mean by ‘deceptive power’

          • Big Mike

            Yes. Explosive punch. Quick twitch, pop.. gone.

      • In a 4-3 the SAM must be good vs the pass AND run.

        No doubt he can be an asset in the pass, esp with his length, but him vs the run is highly dubious.

        The Gmen I don’t think run a 4-3 cover 2 though. So maybe they were planning to blitz Loyd more. Still, he’s liability in the run.

        It was sort of strange in that respect that the Gmen wanted him so badly.

        Some speculate they wanted to add weight and make him a 4-3 end, which would’ve been an even bigger project ala Shea

  • Bender McLugh

    Don’t be a Dickerson, be a Briggsy:

    “In a draft thin on edge rushers, the Bears landed the one they view to
    be the best, paying the modest price of a fourth-round pick, to slide up
    two spots in a trade with the Buccaneers to ensure they got Floyd. The
    concern was the Giants were locked on to Floyd, especially after the
    Titans traded into the eighth spot to grab Michigan State left tackle
    Jack Conklin.”

    • Bender McLugh

      also this gem from Briggsy:

      “Fox engineered quick turnarounds in Carolina and Denver with pass
      rushers named Julius Peppers and Von Miller, and Fangio’s 49ers defense
      was elite with Aldon Smith flying off the edge. The Bears believe they
      have one now, and keep in mind college scouting director Joe Douglas
      came from the Ravens, who’ve made more smart picks on defense over the
      last 15 years than most teams.”

      • Like I told Data. Peppers, Miller were NO-BRAINERS.

        The only questionable one there is Aldon, and to date it’s not even certain he was boom or bust.

        Though if we count Aldon as a boom, he’s still much more prototypical at 6’4, 265 with 34″ arms and 10″ hands than a skinny tweener who gets washed out.

        That being said, Fangio/Fox do have a track record, so in some ways gotta defer.

        But I remember us saying the same thing about Tice with Carimi…

  • Trac

    Just watched the Pace presser. Pretty obvious they want to use Floyd on the edge and that they’re high on him for all the right reasons. I’m warming to this pick.

    • DaMurph

      Maybe you will get your man Jack tonight?

  • DaMurph

    Pace better be right on this one! If he whiffs on this we will all feel hes just another Angelo/Emery. If this turns out really good I think we wont all question his moves in the future.

    • Trac

      aah glasshopper….

    • Irish Sweetness

      Don’t we like his last draft? I loved every pick. If he hits on Jihad tomorrow, we have one of the best front 7s in all of football. If he hits on Howard we’re going to the playoffs. So far so good.

      • Johnnywad

        I like his first draft, and his free agency work, and his coaching hires. I do not get all the pissing and moaning. If it’s solely because Kevin White was injured in training camp last year then I give up. An injury, with no previous history of that injury, and a clean bill of health on draft day, does not damn the GM that made the pick. That falls under “It’s football, shit happens.”

      • DaMurph

        Sure, just like Emerys pick of Long we liked after the fact. But it was Angelos misses on 1st rounders that really took him down. Last year we get an injured player that we dont know what he is going to do. This year we get an undersized tweener that we gave away a 4th for which potentially was a starter on our team.

    • Big Mike

      I think you can say that about any first round pick, no? Floyd was mocked by CBS Sports Analysts at 9,10, 10, 11 and 16. By Walter Football at 9, Mike Mayock 9. The Giants were going to take him. Tampa was also very interested. The Giants know edge rushers. So I’m saying good pick. Does the guy come with some issues that need to be cleaned up, sure. If he can get bigger/stronger under the eyes of a watchful staff, look out.

      • DaMurph

        With a proven record of success you can forgive a whiff. With our long history of 1st round misses, and the Pace pick last year that we never got a game out of and still dont know for sure what kind of player he is. If Pace misses on this tweener and we end up with a part time so so pass rusher I would question him just like Emery batting .500 in the first round and Angelos miss after miss in the first even though he had successes in the later rounds and the signing of free agents. With a pick that high you want a full time impact player with some pro bowls in his future.

        • Big Mike

          I think that is fair. Point of order on Emery. He had Shea, Long and Fuller. Was he 1-1-1 ? 1-2 or 2-1? with first round picks. I don’t know what to make of Fuller yet. He’s a ball player but is he first round good?

          Right now Pace is 0-0 with his first round picks. In a year we’ll have a very good idea.

          What I like is the men in charge of developing that pick, no what the real deal looks like. Emery never seemed to have a clue what his coaches were doing.

          • DaMurph

            Totally agree Mike. Thought Fuller was the real deal early on, then he regressed under a different system. Shea a definite bust, Long, and I think emery got lucky a definite win. I think we have a real plan and direction with this team now, I just cant stand misses on the first round with high choices, theres no excuse.

          • Big Mike

            1st round misses will kill you.

    • Scharfinator

      If Kevin White turns into a beast, I think we would give this one a pass as well.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Kevin’s a beast already. Hope we draft a WR though …

        • Big Mike

          Can’t say that. You can hope and pray that. But you can’t say it. Hasn’t run a route in even a pre-season game. I’m with you, but can’t say it yet.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Looked up stress fracture….I am guessing White’s rise in productivity in 2014 just took a toll on his leg.

            Hopefully this is just a one time injury, but if he is our supposed workhorse receiver, I am still concerned about him becoming susceptible to future injuries. I am praying to Halas that he does great and stays healthy this year.

          • Big Mike

            You just don’t know which WRs will have leg issues.

          • Seems like they all do.
            Megatron, Julio,Dez Bryant, not to mention Bmarsh, Alshon…all miss games on regular basis

        • George Hotchkiss

          We honestly don’t know if Kevin White will ever play a down in an NFL game, and if he does, we don’t know if his leg will hold up enough to be a significant contributor. His injury is serious, I have my fingers crossed, but I’m very concerned.

        • SC Dave

          No, he is not. Not yet.

        • DaMurph

          Clairvoyant?

      • DaMurph

        A real beast! Him not playing a down still leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth.

      • We can’t build dynasties whiffing on 1st rounders!

        • DaMurph

          Yep, found that out with Angelo

  • Bender McLugh

    I agree, only time will tell.

    Kyle Long
    β€Ž@Ky1eLong
    Anybody complaining about the pick. Don’t. This dude is gonna be a beast

    • Scharfinator

      He was high on MacDonald at first too.

      Kyle Long is a Bear’s player and fan – he gets pumped for picks regardless. I kind of like it πŸ™‚

      • Captain Obvious

        Yeah, I think Howie raised his kids right. Kyle drinks the Kool-Aid and plays with his heart on his sleeve. That combination endears him to the fans. Hope he stays good and stays a Bear for a long time.

      • Bender McLugh

        yes and yes. He’s one of us none-ledge-jumpers

      • BearDown100393

        LOL, Kyle “always likes the Bears”.

    • Hope so.

      Then again, Bmarsh predicted Hester would outproduce him one year.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    still a ton of players that can start this year in Rnd 2. Whitehair is one of them.

    • MB30SD

      He has white in his name, I believe that disqualifies him according to yonny’s rulebook

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        God, I hope so. A fucking guard while some of the D-line talent is still around would be brutally stupid. The pool may be deep, but it’s not THAT deep.

        • Big Mike

          you got to grab the d-line. Next year’s crop or the year after, many of these guys are first round picks. It’s an anomaly that lines up with what we need.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Exactly.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Yeah, considering the moves Pace has done so far this offseason to the o-line, I do not see them drafting those positions just yet. We need more dline.

    • Irish Sweetness

      So you bench Slauson or Long. Faaack. Pace isn’t that dumb.

      • Captain Obvious

        Slauson to Center, Whitehair to LG.
        If Slauson’s not the man in 2017, you already have Grasu with a couple years’ of weight room and heavy eating.

        Nothing wrong with having quality depth on the O-line. What if Massie gets injured and Kyle has to slide to RT?

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          There is if it costs you shots are building that d-line right now, while the talent is there.
          Guards are a dime a dozen.

          • Big Mike

            C’mon.. at least a quarter each.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I don’t want to play ‘what if’ – I want guys that improve starting positions right now, let the lesser talent slide back and be depth guys. Drafting goddamn backups makes no sense.

          • DaMurph

            thank you thank you thank you!

  • Bender McLugh

    If Myles Jack is there, does Pace pull the trigger?

    • MB30SD

      Doubt it

  • Irish Sweetness

    Wow Jeff, a guard?? No defensive end on the team and you’d pick a guard??

  • Big Mike

    “By selecting an edge rusher in Round 1, the Bears are still in prime position to add a starting defensive end in Round 2” Bears have three power rushers. McPhee, Young and Houston. Now they have a speed guy. And two nice ILBs. A solid defensive end at 41. Front 7 = fixed.

    • Bender McLugh

      So who do you think they’ll target?

      Noah Spence
      Kamalei Correa
      Kevin Dodd
      Ronald Blair
      Ogba

      ?

      • Big Mike

        Between Spence and Dodd, I like Dodd. Spence benefited from playing at Ohio State with great talent all around him. Ogbah doesn’t fit the 3-4 as well. Dodd, has an NFL body. His lack of experience combined with being labeled a very mature young man tells me he has upside. From NFL.COM “Dodd already looks the part of an NFL defensive end and his desire to
        make plays coupled with his physical traits and talent should have him
        shooting up draft boards. His lack of college snaps could preclude him
        from being “proΒ­ ready”, but his instincts and football intelligence
        should expedite the learning process.

        As far as DBs/Safeties etc, I have no idea. The only other guy I’ve been watching is Hunter Henry the TE from Arkansas.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Dude. Ward. The Jihad. He’s already been talked to by the Consiglieri. His tape is more of that sexual chocolate. Always around the ball.

        • Big Mike

          Round 3, yeah.

          • Captain Obvious

            If you like Ward and think he’ll be available in Round 3, do you take another DE in 2? Like Dodd?

            Or do you take Henry and hope for Ward to be there in 3 (trading up in 3 to nab him if you get cold feet)?

          • Big Mike

            I take the Dodd. Then regroup. I don’t know beans about anything except the top 50 players or so.

        • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

          Jihad is one of the coolest name IΒ΄ve ever heard

    • Captain Obvious

      Totally agree. That sets up Round 3 for the best DB available, Round 4 for ST depth/developmental players.

      Barring injuries, maybe 90% of the starting lineup will be un-embarrassing (biggest potential holes IMO: FS, LT, TE2, NB)

      • Big Mike

        I’d argue we need a DE more than a DB. But it depends on who is out there. I think with the depth of the draft at DE/DT, there will be a stud 5 technique out there that in most years would have been a 1. I think you take that guy.

        • Captain Obvious

          Aren’t we saying DE in Round 2? You want another in Round 3?

          • Big Mike

            DE round 2. First Round Talent could be sitting there. Spence, Dodd, Ogbah all had first round grades. Safeties, no bargains. DBs no bargains. But in all honesty, I’m very happy with a defensive pick. The only offensive guy I could see taking is Hunter Henry, the TE from Arkansas.

          • Captain Obvious

            Total agreement, then.

            Round 2: DE, except maybe Henry at TE
            Round 3: best DB available, unless Henry was the Round 2 pick–then DE
            Round 4: OL depth, DE, DB
            Rounds 5-7: Profit

          • Spence and Ogbah are edge rushers, not DE.

          • Big Mike

            Agreed. But they are still first round talent that somebody in front of us will take. Dodd would be the DE I wanted.

          • MB30SD

            I like dodd

          • Irish Sweetness

            Ogabh’s more OLB size and weight, yeah.

            2. Jihad/Henry

            3. Su’a Cravens / Howard.

            4-7 Don’t care.

      • Irish Sweetness

        If Su’A Cravens is still there in 3 I’ll shit myself. Might even jump off the Howard train.
        For some reason he’s being projected as a OLB, but he was a Safety for the longest time and teh skinny on him is a natural footballer with good instinct and toughness. 6’1 225. That’s nice for a big safety who can bring the blitz too.

  • Captain Obvious

    OK, some perspective.

    Floyd doesn’t blow up some skirts. I am among the dubious. He’s not a slam-dunk, can’t-miss prospect like you’d want at 11. Looking at what was left on the board and what the team needed, I don’t think there were “slam-dunk can’t-miss” guys available.

    That said, he’s not a head-scratcher. He was first-round talent, mocked by most in the early-middle of the round.

    This is not Shea 2.0.

    If the first rule of being a doctor is “do no harm” and the first rule of being a Bears GM is “do not draft a white safety”, then let’s hold our rage until we see the rest of the draft and how Floyd looks on game day.

    One thing I will say to the other doubters: being incensed at using a 4th-rounder to move up is utterly, totally, fucking ridiculous. Yes, the Bears have had a history of hitting some 4th-round gems, but more often than not, 4th-rounders are special teamers, if they even make the roster. And Pace still has a 4th round pick in his pocket, anyway. Giving up a 3rd round pick? That’s getting into the territory of “a guy who could start”, and would be too rich unless you nail down a “can’t miss” pick higher in the draft.

    So let’s get our collective panties unbunched. There is some damned good talent left on the board and 10 picks to go before ours. This 2nd-round pick is gonna be great value, whether it’s Ward or someone else.

    (I think Jack goes early 2nd, btw. His knee might be scaring people off, but I think his high 1st-round talent will be worth a 2nd-round flyer for teams who have a lot of picks left)

    • Big Mike

      Most mocks I say had him in the top 10. He’s also a great compliment to what we have. 3 power rushers. He adds speed to the defense. He’s got more upside than McClellin, he’s bigger, stronger and faster. He played in a better conference and was moved all around because he was far and away Georgia’s best defensive player. Boom, I’m sold. Love it.

      • Johnnywad

        “He’s got more upside than McLellin,”. Holy balls, I sure hope so.

        I like the pick as well. Pace is building a faster team. I like it.

        • Big Mike

          Yeah, that’s hilarious. But I was just saying there is no comparison to that guy.

          • MB30SD

            He was your guy from the start ya sneaky little snake oil salesman

          • Big Mike

            I thought he’d turn it around at LB. I never thought he’d go to ILB. He’ll probable end up in a special speed package in NE. Part of my support was wishful thinking, but mostly I kept thinking they had to have seen something. Maybe he’s just the most likable hard working guy.. I don’t know. But bust is his label now. Floyd is not that.

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            Belly Cheat will turn Chicken Dinner into Teddy Bruscki

          • Big Mike

            No. Bruski had ENORMOUS football IQ. he also tackled going forward, not chasing or getting knocked over. Mclellin just isn’t a bad ass.

          • DaCoaches Mustache

            Special Needs package

      • Dale701

        Meet The Prospect: Leonard Floyd

      • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

        hope it was because of GUΒ΄s system.. that poor tackling scares me

        • Big Mike

          He’s a go get’em kind of guy. Should have never played inside.

      • I actually agree with all this, and STILL think we shoud’ve drafted Tunsil or Karl Joseph because they PRODUCED, have proto-size-speed-strength, are scheme fits AND look like studs.

        Maybe I’m too conservative with my #1 picks, but that’s the way I see it.

        Being fast, having bend, is fine but can Floyd disengage from 300 pound NFL linemen? will he get ridden out like Shea?

        Pace said that Loyd has long arms so he can keep bodies away from him. But guess what? his arms are 33″ which nearly every NFL linemen have (the better ones 35″), so how is that going to help?

        That’s what worries me the most.

        And if someone counters, “he’s only going to be in on rushing downs” Well, that’s a nice way of telegraphing our intent, not to mention moving into the top 10 for a subpackage 3rd down specialist.

        I’m hoping to Papa bear that for ONCE a “project” 1st rounder pans out for us though.

        • Big Mike

          First think I’ll say is your avatar made me throw up a little. I wouldn’t call him a project. I’d call him a guy who will play right away and will get better throughout his career.

          Or did the Bears reach because Fangio/Fox needed a speed rusher? God I hope not.

          Tunsil would have been the move that would have had me jumping out of my chair happy.

    • Johnnywad

      Precisely. And further, I don’t think Pace was just stockpiling picks to bring in extra late rounders to camp and subsequently relegate to the practice squad. It’s more likely he was looking for draft currency. Good business.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        The draft currency though should be used to get a bigger or better package for an important issue in the future. But going from 11 to 9? Concerns me a little. We are still in rebuild mode, and the hardest thing to get of all positions is a true stud QB because of its extremely high risk or high reward….and we all know how freakin hard it is to watch the Bears commonly screwing up our QB situation.

        • Johnnywad

          I disagree that the Bears are in rebuild mode. This will be a very competitive team in 2016. They need a backup quarterback. They do not need a starter. They have a quality starter on the roster for a few more years should they want him.

          Question: If Floyd has 12 sacks this season, will you be happy with the move and pick? I will.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Well, if the current state of the Bears organization, especially the upper echelon of its people can stay the fuck out of the daily team operations, then I do have some hope that the Bears have some form of real plans on dealing with our QB situation because almost EVERYTHING nowadays revolves around that. BIG IF though.

            Of course I wil be happy if we see the production but holy smokes we as fans have been taken behind the shed way too much with this organization’s handling of the draft and free agency.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I like it, Obvious. I like it. Well said.

      Plus, we know Pace has the stones to move up again in the second tomorrow for Ward or Henry.

    • I would’ve felt much better if it was the later 4rth.

      We have an early 4rth, which is basically a late 3rd (typically expected to start).

      Guarantee there’s gonna be some guys when the Bucs draft with our pick in the 3rd we’re going to be wishing we could draft.

      That being said, I agree with Jeff.

      I like Pace being aggressive and moving up for their guy, likely the last guy on that tier.

      Hub remarked that once Conk was taken (why I screamed “Noooooo”) they knew they weren’t going to get their targets which likely were Zeke, Buckner, and Conk.

      The odd part was, neither Tunsil, Hargreaves or Rankins were in that tier.

      POX obviously deemed Floyd a cut above them

      Time will tell if they were correct.

      The one thing they did correctly deduce was the Gmen targeting Floyd. Gmen obviously were sucker punched.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Did Jeff really just say “why should teams lie during draft process?”…after the Bears jumped the Giants to grab THEIR top of the board guy?

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      NVM, he was being rhetorical.
      I think. Hard to tell with Jefe sometimes.

    • Captain Obvious

      I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what Jeff was saying: “Why should teams lie?” Because if they telegraph their love of a player, they can be damned sure someone’s gonna steal him.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        II
        V

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    If Pace picks up Ward, I’ll completely forget about Floyd. He can go play 6’6″ safety as far as I care.

    • Irish Sweetness

      That’s what I’m talkin’ about ….

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Leming thinks Treadwell will terrorize the Bears for years to come. I highly doubt that.

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      Fuller sure as shit can’t hang with him

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Fuller has the talent, his brain just got broken his rookie year.
        Treadwell has no wheels, and his QB has no arm. I’m not worried.

      • willbest

        Fuller doesn’t need to. Teddy can’t hit him. Vikes will be looking for a QB next year.

        • Irish Sweetness

          So this.

    • AlbertInTucson

      He’s not a burner.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        No, he is not.

  • Big Mike

    In case you are tempted to think last night was the main event for the Bears. The Bears best player in 2 of the last 4 drafts, has been the 2nd round guy. (Jeffery/Goldman over McClellin/White… White could make this a horse race) Stephen Paea and Matt Forte were also 2nd rounders and were both better than the first round picks (Gabe Carimi / Chris Williams respectively).

    Tonights pick is HUGE!! All the things that went in to the first round apply. Move up, trade back and so on. Who do the Bears covet? Or are there enough guys with similar evaluations that meet needs to sit tight.

    Here is the other bit of drama.. The Bears 3rd round picks have.. there’s no other way to put it.. the Bears have been miserable in the 3rd round. Dvoracek, Wolfe, Okwo, Harrison, Gilbert, Iglesias, Conte, Hardin, Only Earl Bennet stands out as a positive. Conte was arguably their 2nd best 3rd round pick the vote on Will Sutton is incomplete, but also looks like a failure. Grasu has avoided the never did shit label. But needs to improve to be considered a win. Can we find a good starter in RD 3? Hitting on the first 2nd and 3rd round would be HUGE!!!!! Where is our 3rd round Lance Briggs. We need that kind of a third rounder. Trivia. Antwan Peek was chosen 1 spot ahead of Briggs. Peek also an LB had 124 tackles in his career. Briggs had 130 in 2006. πŸ™‚

    • AlbertInTucson

      Ew. Those 3rd rounders aren’t a Legacy, they’re a Curse.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        Dusty was productive….then his arm fell off…twice.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    Getting Jacked Up: admitting you only want to play a couple years prior to being drafted and losing millions of dollars as a result

    • Captain Obvious

      I gotta think either there is something seriously wrong with his knee that teams knew about, so he wasn’t hurting himself by talking,

      OR

      He thought by opening his yap he would scare off the crappy teams picking high in the first round, and fall to a good team picking at the back end of the 1st.

      If it was the former, he’s right–the word was out and him talking wasn’t doing to hurt him more. If it’s the latter, he was pretty damned dumb, because his talking convinced everyone to take a pass, and it cost him a lot of money.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Tunsil lost, what, $10m over his drop…Jack cost himself alot more than that. Pretty interesting draft so far between those two alone.

        • Irish Sweetness

          If the titans didn’t trade, he was gone first. The Chargers might have taken him, so he probably dropped 10 spots.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        We will be seeing more and more of this kind of behavior because the younger generations are losing common sense and their IQ points

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Feel awful for Myles Jack.”

    Why? Because he can’t keep his mouth shut for 24 hours?

  • CanadaBear

    The one guy I actually saw on tape and didn’t like. Fuck. I was sure they were going to take Tunsil. Oh well. I’ve been all in with these coaches so far so no reason to think they can’t improve this guy.

    • Big Mike

      His tape reflects how poorly Georgia used him, relative to his strengths. The fact is that he was by far their best defensive player and they were undermanned in the SEC, so they put him anywhere and everywhere. No business playing inside. They didn’t develop his body, his technique is largely natural pure instinct. If you zero in on when he was lined up to rush the QB, he was dominant. He was mocked all offseason at 9 or 10. The Giants who know quite a bit about quality edge rushers, were clearly going to take him. (evidence is that their fall back player was Eli f’n Apple). Tampa was also interested. So what I see is the Bears really wanted this guy, they leap frogged 2 teams (tampa was clearly complicit in screwing NY) and got the guy they wanted. Think Aaron Donald, who we missed by 1. I love the attitude. Now we need a 3-4 DE, (Dodd, would be a like getting a 2nd first round guy) and our front 7 looks mighty fine. Some depth in the later rounds, or UDFA. Somewhere we need to come up with a safety/cb. Maybe that’s round 3, maybe we have to go get a veteran. I’m ignoring offense, because I think we’re ok. Taking an OG round 4-5-6 could give us the option to move Slauson to Center and improve. Unless Grasu really take a step. We’re missing a TE that’s the only other problem.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I like that they were aggressive – I just am baffled that he was the guy. I do not see it.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          Pace specifically said he was misused at Georgia. Fangio seems to love him. I don’t see it but what the fuck do I know.

          He’s Barkevious Mingo….not even Dion Jordan. Just Mingo.

          • Big Mike

          • Irish Sweetness

            Great video that I hope everybody watches, rather than piles on Pace until September when they all go “Wowwww!” …

            The beauty is …. if he puts on 20lbs …. he becomes an uber-Urlacher. It’s all good.

            This came up after Mike’s vid. A 28 minute breakdown !!

          • Big Mike

            I saw that it was too long and showed too much of him playing inside.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Mayock said the same thing. That’s the pro game. They know enough to draft a guy high whose college didn’t use him properly. Yet people who drive trucks and fry fish for a living know better. SMH.

          • Mingo, the illegitimate offspring of Ming from “Flash Gordon”

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        haha, we’re not taking a G anytime. We’re you guys sleeping when we picked up Ted Larsen and Manny Ramirez? Both G/C, both better than Grasu, both could start for most teams in the league, both on Bears roster.

        • Big Mike

          Oh shit. I forgot about those guys. Damn.. I really liked Ramirez. How did I forget that.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            too busy starting at your autographed McClellin fathead poster!

          • Ososfan

            It read “With luv”- Chicken Dinner.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            yeah it does

          • Big Mike

            GAAA.. I wanted him to be good. πŸ™ He’s not. Ok, move on. Nothing to see here.

            http://memesvault.com/wp-content/uploads/Facepalm-Meme-Gif-19.png

        • No draft pick would surprise me. My assumption of logic is out the window.

          Let’s hope POX doesn’t go full Emery tho.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Grasu will be fine if he bulks up.

        You’re spot on about Floyd. He’s slippery enough to get into those A gaps, and when Georgia did use him properly as a pass-rusher, it obviously caught the Bears and Giants’ notice. But for me it’s dropping back into pass pro where he puts us over the top and makes him a great pick. Huge shielding radius that you don’ t normally get in the second level.

        • Grassu will be fine if he bulks up. Floyd will be fine if he bulks up. MB’s chub will be fine if it just bulks up (NTTAWWT). Yeah yeah…

        • Big Mike

          Well done Irish.

  • Captain Obvious

    Tunsil said he got “hacked” and implied it (the “hacking”) had happened before. Given that the only person who would wish him ill is his stepfather (who is suing him), what shakes out is pretty scary:

    1) Stepfather gets access to Tunsil’s accounts. If someone got his passwords before, Tunsil is an idiot for not securing his social accounts. He’s further an idiot for keeping those records of his pot-smoking and asking a coach for money.

    2) Stepfather attempts to extort Tunsil. “Settle the lawsuit or I’ll kill your draft stock.” Tunsil doesn’t cave, maybe because it’s so close to draft time he doesn’t think it’ll get out before he’s drafted.

    3) Stepfather shoots himself in the foot by costing his stepson millions.

    If it’s anything close to this, I’m breathing a sigh of relief if I’m one of the GMs who passed on him. Yes, the kid was a victim, but he did a ton of stupid shit, kept evidence of his stupidity, and then put himself in a position where it would bite him on the ass. If he was being extorted by his stepfather, he’s gonna have a shit-ton of off-the-field issues dogging him through his rookie year.

    If I’m Miami, I’m loading his contract with “good conduct” clauses.

    • CanadaBear

      I thought his college coach had some nice insight last night. Said the kid owned up to the picture but it was from a long time ago. HIs coach couldn’t say enough nice things about him so I would go with that over the media horde. Gotta give the kid props for being honest about the pic. Also, most kids have done some drugs in their lives by the time they are in their early 20’s. Esp poor kids. That pic didn’t bother me at all.

      • Captain Obvious

        It was a video, not a picture. Keeping the video somewhere on your phone or computer is dead stupid. And the kid is 21. How long ago could it have been from?

        Getting money from his coaches, and then keeping the texts (or screenshots of them)? More stupidity.

        • CanadaBear

          Did you ever do any stupid shit when you were a kid? I sure did. If it’s only weed, who cares? As far as the pics/vids go, did he keep them or did his step dad “borrow” them? I think the kid’s biggest problem is the step father. A lot of these kids start smoking weed in their early teens (or earlier) so it could be from a long time ago, relatively speaking. All I read for months was Tunsil was surest thing in the draft, until he wasn’t. Time will tell.

          • Irish Sweetness

            None of us ever had a hundred million dollars on the table, C-Bear.

            I have no problem with anyone smoking weed. I smoked a sack of it. When you’re a VIP guest to the The Greatest Show on Earth, you’ve got to do basic things like not filming yourself taking illegal drugs and then KEEPING IT ON YOUR PHONE.

          • CanadaBear

            True dat! Not saying he’s the sharpest knife in the drawer just not too worked up about a guy smoking pot. Think back to when we were 21. Yikes!

          • Irish Sweetness

            21? Dude … 41 ….

            I guess it only really matters that we didn’t need him badly. If J’Marcus Webb or Frank Omiyale is your LT … then you could take a pop.

          • Captain Obvious

            I didn’t do drugs, drink, or any illegal hijinks. I was in the Army at 18, back in the day when you couldn’t be a complete fuck-up and still get in.

            That said, I don’t care if the kid smoked weed daily. The fact is that he not only got caught doing it, he kept the fucking evidence. That’s beyond stupid. That’s asking for trouble.

            Sure, the kid’s problem is his stepfather… and the fact that he keeps a bunch of evidence around that would TORPEDO his MULTIMILLION dollar career. The oxymoron guys (military intelligence) would always say, “It’s not what you do, it’s what people find out you do, that will bite you in the ass.” And I agree. You have a job that you’d lose if you got caught drinking a beer? Then you make DAMN sure you don’t get caught drinking a beer.

            Yeah, he’s a kid. And I give him the benefit of the doubt for that. But plenty of kids his age and younger have died in service of their country, so forgive me if I don’t cry a river for the guy who fucked himself by keeping the evidence of his youthful stupidity, and seeing it splashed all over the internet.

      • Captain Obvious

        And of course the coach is going to say nice things about him.

        The coach is going to be under the microscope now for NCAA violations galore. His best defense is “the text conversation was faked; the kid’s a victim.” If the coach throws Tunsil under the bus, it indicts his staff and himself as egregious violators of NCAA rules.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Ole Miss is fucked anyway. They know it.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        haha, Nkemdiche said he was with Tunsil the night he jumped out of the hotel room. I don’t think they were just watching movies. I could give a shit about weed though. I can’t believe we didn’t fucking pick him. Insane.

        • Captain Obvious

          You can’t believe it? The kid potentially has a stepfather trying to extort him, keeps videos of himself smoking weed (so it’s probably not an isolated incident), and keeps texts soliciting money from his college coaches?

          HUGE red flags. HUGE.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            1st pick in draft falls to Bears at 9 or 11….because he smoke weed and has a shitty family.
            LT fucked child prostitutes covered in Coke.
            Favre consumed more horse tranquilizer than Seabiscuit
            McMahon fucking drank at his press conference!

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            poor poor Seabiscuit.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Richard Dent had the dental work of a 3rd world horse tanner. Of course, he was pick 203…never mind.

          • Irish Sweetness

            In defense of Jimmy Mac, that wasn’t illegal, and the beer was in the limo they sent for him.

            In defense of LT, that wasn’t before his draft.

            Fuck Brett Favre generally.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            You don’t just start fucking child prostitutes later in life. You do that shit that means you’ve always been a dirtbag. Always. Didn’t stop him from being LT.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Pace hit two home run The other was NOT drafting Tunsil.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Ha! Using a gas mask does not amount to “dabbling” into drugs. Smh

        • CanadaBear

          It’s just one more way to get high on pot. You know, the drug that is legal in 3 states and the District of Columbia.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Oh the drug that’s illegal in most states?

          • CanadaBear

            For now. I’ve smoked it on and off my entire adult life. For me and a lot of others, it’s alcohol that is the problem. Pot use is rampant in the NFL.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Absolutely. The wrong drug is illegal. How many people get stoned and then go out punching grandmothers or driving their cars onto pavements?

            Doc, don’t answer that ….

          • CanadaBear

            None of it should be illegal after the age of 18-21. Once you’re a legal adult, pay your money and take your chances.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            It’s still illegal. No kid does it for medicinal purposes, hence still not legal.

            Yes you think it shouldn’t be and some states are warming up to it, but why is it ok to break laws?

            The NFL isn’t a state, so even if all states legalized it, they still wouldn’t allow it….it in no way helps on the field.

          • CanadaBear

            It certainly helps with pain relief. I know that for a fact. Most of the players in the NFL struggle with pain/pain killers. I’d much rather have them on weed than pain killers. I’m guessing most of the guys that smoke weed aren’t doing that until after the games/practices. The only reason weed is illegal still is due to the AMA/medical industry (mostly the corps that produce all the pills). As soon as they can get the profits going their way, they will do a 180 on it.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Being honest? It was posted online. Then there was a VIDEO of him taking off the mask and identifying himself.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Tunsil: I was hacked!

      Rest of the world: Duh.

    • What they don’t show in that vid is Tunsil passing Mufasa and the bong to Pace.

      Even if the stepdad doesn’t get the $, mission accomplished.

      Stepdad completely RUINED what should’ve been one of the best day’s in Tunsil’s life. It was supposed to be a celebration, biatches! But instead, turned into a nightmare.

      Tunsil’s step dad. Playa Hata of the Year!

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        hate, hate, hate, hate, hate……..

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    This was what worried me about Shaqwagon.

    Bills DE Shaq Lawson said he doesn't need shoulder surgery. At least 6 teams said they believe he will need shoulder surgery at some point.— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) April 29, 2016

    • Doc Nitty

      Glad to see you didn’t jump off a building last night. Or maybe you did. Nebraska buildings aren’t that tall are they?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Hah – no, and there’s plenty of corn to catch your fall if you do.

        • Doc Nitty

          A Corn impaling would be a tough way to go. Delicious but tough.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            It’s all in the technique

          • Doc Nitty

            When I was in my early twenties on a hotshot crew, on the way to a fire we pass a rickety booth on the side of the road with the sign “Sweet Kron for sale”

            From that day forward, it’s been Sweet Kron to me.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            ain’t nuthin better than sweet kron

          • CanadaBear

            With a ton of butter.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            little bit of chili pepper on there too.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            cayenne , lime juice, mayo, gunshot residue
            Little Juarez style

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Oh hell yes.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Dammit, Waffle! Where am I gonna find THAT on a shitty grey Nebraska day?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Select parts of Omaha.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I’m gonna go ahead and wait until it warms up a little bit and the food trucks come out west, okthanks

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            coward!

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Jessssss.

          • MB30SD

            Fuck mayo…. the devil’s jizz

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Hahahaha, nice edit

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            Khildren of the Kron.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Malachai!

        • willbest

          Not this time of year there isn’t

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            No, right now it’s mud.

    • Yeah, I think he was waling around with a sling for a while.

      But if you’re thinking long term, who’s gonna be better – Shaq or Loyd?

      This feels an awful lot like Mercilus/Chandler vs Shea

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I would go with neither, but that’s just me.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        He’s been in a shoulder brace since his freshman year, I believe.
        That alone had me tripping.

      • MB30SD

        That’s what came to my mind immediately, but pace is different. .. I’m praying to god he’s different at least

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    We’re in the fucking Matrix right? We actually picked the best OL in the draft that was slated to go #1…..right???

    • Irish Sweetness

      Cheech & Chong?

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        fuck that, they all smoke weed. All of them. Fucking millenials. It was a mistake not to take him.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Millennials!!! And their fucking phones ….

        • MB30SD

          I was 100% about taking tunsil. 100….%

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    Be interesting to see if Fisher puts Case Keenum out there or attempts to crash camp Goff and make him the opening day starter.

    • willbest

      Why wouldn’t Goff be the week 1 starter?

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        uptake

        He ran exclusively Bear Raid at Cal. Quick release, Marino style.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I feel like this whole Rams thing has been too scripted….move to LA, picking Goff, something else I am missing.

      Feels like the NBA and New Orleans all over again

  • Ososfan

    Can we PLEASE get Kevin Dodd or Jihad Ward!??! Please!!?!?

    • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

      I think Bullard brings more against the run and still presses QB

      • Ososfan

        Hmmmm. Haven’t looked much in Bullard I’ll check him out and join your enthusiasm probably.

      • Ososfan

        Wow how awesome is it that we have Bullard now?!?!?!?!?!?!

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      You not thinking big enough Osos, we can get a 1st round talent by simply moving up a couple spots tonight. The front 7 would be completely fine with depth at DL and all LB positions.

      • Big Mike

        Dodd, would be a great pick. He’d be a guy to move up for in my book. If he’s there when we pick and we take him you will all thank me πŸ™‚

        • Ososfan

          Big fan of Dodd Big Mike, has the arm length Pox covet and really came up big this year!

        • Irish Sweetness

          Brandt had him rated #16 …. might be a red flag we don’t know about.

          • Big Mike

            Or Brandt’s an outlier.

      • Ososfan

        Hmmm. Interesting, yea I agree.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          I’d take Dodd at this point most definitely but I think we can get Robinson, Reed or Jones though. I’d be fine with any of those 4.

      • Irish Sweetness

        By next year, Jihad could be considered a top ten players in one of those re-drafts.
        People have to get those ‘expert’ grades out of their heads.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          He played 4-3 DE man, he’d have to learn a whole position while not even being dominant at his original position. The guys from Alabama are fucking monsters. You pick a guy like Ward if those other guys are snatched up not while they are available.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s always around the ball, he sniffs it out. Certainly better looking than any dude we have on the roster. Does anyone like ANY of our DEs?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Our old DE’s are OLB’s now. Young is a sack guy who put his hand in the dirt in 4-3 sub packages. Houston can play both positions. Floyd will have to play in the 3-4. A guy like Robinson or Reed could play the DE position in a 3-4 or kick inside in the 4-3. You need a D rotation so you don’t get Unrein as your other DL and guys with jersey numbers in the 70’s.
            Let’s have the Jets D line, not the Bears old D line of last year.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            He played every tackle and end position on their line, usually from play to play. He is every bit the physical monster. I’m not arguing against either Alabama lineman either, just saying, don’t write him off as a one-trick pony. He’s much more than that.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Better not pull this shit in the pros.
    https://youtu.be/L3aA2g5BlQA?t=374

    • BC

      That’s almost exactly like the play that Rodgers threw to Cobb to score that TD on 4th and 8 that killed our playoff hopes in 2013.

      • MB30SD

        Why would you bring that up? I thought we were blog buddies?!?!

        • BC

          Because I don’t need to see that again. It broke me…Leonard Floyd better not!

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    I just looked at the guys remaining on the board. Holy Fuck, you don’t even have to overthink it, move up and grab A’Shawn, Jarran Reed, Chris Jones, aka, Black Magic Meat Mountains.

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      sing it….

      • CanadaBear

        Love Carlos! I also love the original version from Fleetwood Mac. Here they are doing it live. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRu7Pt42x6Y

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        Got a Black Magic Meat Mount’n
        Got a Black Magic Meat Mount’n
        We got some Black Magic Meat Mount’n
        Got Airn so blind he can’t see
        That they’re black magic mountains
        They trying to make a stain out of She.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      If we grab one of the shitty TE’s or a project WR or a guard, any guard…I will lose it.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        The good news is we won’t take OL or WR in 2nd round. They should go after Josh Hill with draft picks to the Saints instead of taking TE in the draft and they should focus on getting one of the top DL picks left over. Holy shit, that would be a coup. Simply by solidifying the D Line that already has Akiem Hicks and Eddie Goldman and have McPhee, Floyd, Trevathan, Freeman, Young and Houston at LB, that is an ENORMOUS upgrade over the last few years. Fucking huge.

        • Irish Sweetness

          After we get Ward. If we don’t get a top DE …..

          Pace won’t let that happen. He’ll get Ward (or whatever DE he has on the board).
          Logic and reason will win out.

      • Big Mike

        In the 2nd round? or at all? Nah. Not happening. I’m all in with Pace on the Floyd pick, but thrust would be eroded with WR, Guard. However, I don’t think Hunter Henry is a project TE.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          He was the ONE tight end prospect that looked interesting…would be a weapon.
          But depends on the DL talent still on the board.
          I still like Waffle’s Josh Hill gambit.

          • Big Mike

            Absolutely. Wouldn’t take him if Dodd was there. What’s the move for Josh Hill. Isn’t he with the Saints?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Yeah, might be available for a pick though. We put in a bid for him but Saints have him at the moment.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            the article I stole it from mentioned Saints tough cap situation but then also pointed out that they usually keep a ton of TE’s. Who knows at this point.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He completely changes our passing game if we could get him. What does he cost?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I would imagine our 4th rounder….where we would pick a college TE anyway. Less risk to get the known quantity.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Dude, another DT? We have a find in Ward just sitting there. DE sorted. BANG.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        Ward compared to Robinson, Reed and Jones is a no brainer. You go with the DT’s because Robinson and Reed are way more 3-4 DE than Jihad Ward. Sorry man.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Are they quick? Didn’t watch any tapes on them.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            WHAT??? you’ve been touting Ward the whole time and you didn’t know about the the meat monsters that fell out of the first round????? Arghhhhhh Irish, you drive me to the Tradewind.

          • MB30SD

            He drives alls of us to the tradeswinds… alas, we loves him

        • MB30SD

          No, 100%.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Man, Pace went all pussy on us just because of Ray McDonald. That sucks. he beat the shit out of a joint Ryan not a woman.

          • MB30SD

            Yeah, I think so. I think tunsil is going to be a fucking BEAST with a massive chip. Siiigh

    • Dodd.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza
    • Irish Sweetness

      I just saw him compare himself favorably with Eisenhower. SMH.

  • George Hotchkiss

    I gave Phil Emery the benefit of the doubt until I saw the highlight real for Shea McClellin. In the highlights put together by his college team, he never got to the quarterback once on a straight sack, all of the sacks were coverage sacks. I knew if he couldn’t get to the QB in college, he sure as hell wasn’t going to get there in the NFL, and Shea proved me right. I am not going to give Ryan Pace any breathing room. Last night was a downer, and I blame the GM. The drafting of Floyd was handled badly, I was watching the draft on the NFL Network and the fact that he wasn’t there was never explained. No Floyd, no video of his draft party, no phone interview with him all we had was Mike Mayock saying he was skeptical Floyd could compete in the NFL because of his thin build. The previous nine picks all received glowing praise and met the commissioner, then a quick “he may not be a viable player” comment, and then on to the Giants.
    When Shea McClellin was drafted, a similar thing happened, all of the previous draftees received high marks and “I Iike this pick” comments from the commentators, then Shea was drafted and all I heard was “this is a stretch” “He is undersized for the position” and “I don’t like this pick for the Bears”. Last night left me with a similar feeling.
    I would like Mr. Pace to understand that as bear fans we pay every bill for the team, and we were left hanging last night. Us long time fans were hanging on the hope of a dynamic first pick, I would have given a half a dozen picks to get a chance to pick Bosa. Floyd may end up being a contributor and part of a solid rotation of linebackers, but nobody thinks he is going to be a game changer. As fans we have had the “privelage” of paying for the right to watch incompetent teams led by incompetent coaches “coach Fox not included” embarrass this once great franchise, and then last night was handled so badly. When the team we love so much trades into the top ten, and then underwhelms with the pick, a gut punch has just been received by the fans. Mr. Pace, you better make this work in a hurry, the clock is ticking, and the fans will turn on you in a heartbeat if you lose their faith that you have something going. I will be the one leading the rebellion. Good Luck

    • Ososfan

      They did interview him, he decided to stay home with family and friends and people from Georgia even though he was invited to be in Chicago….

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      I would like Mr. Pace to understand that as bear fans we pay every bill for the team….

      Empirically, demonstrably untrue.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        haha

      • Scharfinator

        Shhhh none of those things you call facts in here!

        • SC Dave

          Uncle Sam pays nothing, unless of course, one believes the government owns the fruits of labor by default

      • willbest

        I suppose that is true if your understaing of commerce is limited strictly to a single transaction of money for product or service.

        Ever been flagged down by somebody offering you a $100 to listen to a 90-minute sales pitch for a timeshare? Your time is valuable, which is why Toyota and InBev are willing to pay for access to it by supporting things that are likely to get your attention. And on that, when I buy a Toyota probably $500 of that purchase goes to their marketing budget which goes to the NFL. Not exactly a perfect fit obviously, but close enough. You don’t see revlon advertising on the NFL. Nobody buying lipstick is paying for the NFL. They pay for Lifetime movies though.

        As for your 501(c)(6) those organizations are not tax dodges they operate as pass through entities for tax purposes. The 501(c)(3) entities are tax dodges but they are strictly limited and regulated.

      • George Hotchkiss

        The fans buy the tickets, the gear, the satellite packages, purchase the products of the advertisers and pay the taxes that help pay for the stadiums. I have no idea what you are talking about.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      sorry George, something is going. The team started their reversal from 2014 in one year. They became competitive almost overnight and were in virtually every game. The offseason moves were extremely solid and appropriate. The draft is not over yet. The season hasn’t started. The rebuild continues. Don’t be a fucking douche just yet.

      Wait, are you blaming Pace because Floyd watched the draft from his house with family? Like the Bears should have had an employee waiting outside his house in Georgia in the off chance he got picked??? wtf??

      • George Hotchkiss

        Please don’t call me names. I know Floyd chose to not go to Chicago, but, we were left hanging with no info on the NFL network at a draft we were hosting. As a GM you need to do more than just build a team, you need to build and support your fans. We do pay every bill for the team…a little love here would be nice.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          what does NFL Network coverage of Floyds house have to do with Ryan Pace or the Chicago Bears? Sorry, don’t “act” like a douche just yet. No one understands your correlation of the draft coverage of his selection and your views on how Pace could have influenced this somehow. It’s weird. Then you throw down some threat of fan revolt based on him “having something going”. What the hell do you think has been happening since he got here?
          Your post was very Bears Facebook Post-ish.

    • Johnnywad

      Pace has done excellent work to date. He just drafted a lightning fast defender whobwas projected to go about where he was picked. I suspect he will be an excellent player. He was an excellent defender with top end measurables at a real football school.

      Who gives a damn about cameras at his draft party if he even had one? Not me.

      Your bar is set at an unrealistic height.

      • When Cleveland drafted Joe Thomas at the top of the draft, he was on a boat with his dad fishing. Didn’t do any media stuff all day.

        Guess that means he was a shitty pick. Oh wait… he’s only been the best LT in the NFL for a decade.

        • willbest

          Commitment to family, relaxing not worrying about things you can’t control… I like that in a person.

        • Johnnywad

          So this. Conversely, I’m sure Johnny Manziel had blowout at the Kardashians or the Playboy Mansion. I prefer a guy that likes to keep a low profile on the party front.

          • MB30SD

            Man, I still have a playboy party on my bucket list… well, attendance AND fucking a playmate in the grotto

          • Scharfinator

            I can’t tell if grotto is slang or you mean a legitimate architectural feature.

          • MB30SD

            I am sad now.

            Google it

          • Scharfinator

            I’ll wait till I’m not at work sir!

            I know what a grotto is, just not if you meant you wanted to stick it in her grotto πŸ˜‰

          • MB30SD

            Bahahhahahaha… it was a mansion pool fixture.

            And yes, I will most certainly want to stick it in her grotto

          • CanadaBear

            I think the Mansion was sold. I know it was up for sale.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            pretty sure it is still on the market. It came with the clause that Hef stays there till he dies

          • CanadaBear

            You know that old fart could last another 10 years. It’s got to be worth a fortune just for the land.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            listed for $200 million

          • MB30SD

            :_ (

          • Big Mike

            Went to one. It was a fundraiser being held there. Tickets were $2,000 a pop. Saw Hefner and some bunnies, walked around the grotto. Toured the mansion. More like going to a theme park. There were the playboy bunnies. The whole thing had a stale feeling to it. Back in the day, I imagine those parties were genuine.

          • MB30SD

            Right. I actually dated a playmate for a while a couple years ago. Amazingly hot, but a fucking drag of a human to be around, but my god was she glorious naked.

            ..biatch never took me up there. Grrrrr

          • CanadaBear

            I used to date one in my early teens but she didn’t know it.

          • MB30SD

            Hahahah

      • George Hotchkiss

        I am a loyal long time fan, my bar is set high for the Bears, I don’t think it is too high. show me the proof Mr. Pace has done an excellent job. FYI, he was just voted in the bottom half of the league by his fellow GMs.

        • MB30SD

          Bill 2.0… is that you bill?

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Retooling the Defense this offseason was a pretty big notch. GIve it a year, Georgie – I hated the pick too, but the rest of this offseason has been gravy.

        • Johnnywad

          If you couldn’t see it with your own eyes last season, I probably can’t convince you. But for starters, he took over a dumpster fire and made them competitive in one off season. Go look at the point differentials from 2014 to 2015. The Bears were vastly improved in one off season.

          You don’t like the coaches? How about the defense he’s put together? He’s signed players to fair but team friendly contracts. When the Bears make the playoffs this season, two seasons removed from Marc Trestman and Phil Emery, and a decade of Jerry Angelo draft choices, what then? Will you bitch because they didn’t win the Super Bowl?

          Being a life long fan certainly hasn’t made you objective. Nor does it make you any more knowledgeable than anybody posting here. There are some dudes on here that really know their shit. Many of them likely younger than you. Your tenure as a fan doesn’t make your opinion reality.

    • Big Mike

      Sorry you didn’t like the pick, but you’re wrong about .. well just about everything. Your opinion seems to be based on how well the TV drama played out. Floyd was a consensus top 10 pick. The Bears jumped 2 spots to get because NY was probably going to take him and TB might have taken him.

      • George Hotchkiss

        I look to a top ten pick as a game changer or a rock, Floyd’s performance at Georgia indicated neither. I hope he can become the disruptive player Coach Fangio likes on his defenses, and I hope my concerns are ill founded. I am just saying I was underwhelmed, and the TV drama is important, isn’t that why Chicago is hosting the event. I checked a number of live Bears’ blogs after the pick and the consensus was running 9 to 1 against the pick.

        • Big Mike

          Remember the excitement for Manziel? The lack of excitement for Kyle Long? The 9-1 against brought to you by the same people who think the Bears should have dumped Cutler for a loaf of bread after the 2014 season?

          The negativity is simply about people reading a few articles and concluding that he’s too skinny and didn’t have a lot of sacks at Georgia.

          • George Hotchkiss

            Sorry, to reply so late, I consider myself a student of the game, played long enough to have a feel for some of the physical and skill components that make each player interesting and complex as prospects. As an aside, I had Kyle Long pegged for a second round acquisition for the Bears, I had hoped they could get Ogeltree in the first and move up to get Long in the late first or early second. I read many “articles” and looked at every available draft rating service when the draft was getting near. I knew about long because I watch Oregon games because their offense is fun. Here is a philosophy I have regarding the NFL, teams win when they have one or more players who are disruptive to the point that they multiply the value of the players around them. As an example, when the Bears special teams took advantage of Devon Hester’s ability to read blocks on returns and make the proper cut, they changed the dynamics of every game they played. Brian Urlacher at Mike, forced teams away from the middle and allowed the edge defenders to clean up. Walter, need I say more. We draft in the top ten so rarely, and last year was a crusher with the white injury, I wanted the opportunity to provide that prototypical disruptive player. I think floyd has possibilities, he may be more likely to be a contributer. In complete honesty I hope I am wrong.

          • Big Mike

            Game changers usually have some risk involved with their pick. Long. inexperience, Urlacher was a hybrid before that was a thing, he was a flat out failure at SAM. Hester wasn’t hester, until he was. Floyd is the same thing. His get off from the snap is unfathomable. If he plays 20 snaps, that is 20 times the OC on the other side is thinking about him. which is 20 times more than they worried about an edge rusher for the bears last year. I’m calling him a game changer. The Giants were locked in on him. They had no idea Pace would jump them. Their pick is almost evidence that they were like “oh crap”. Eli Apple? C’mon. Cheers..

    • CanadaBear

      Really George? I wasn’t fond of the pick either but let’s be honest, you, me, the talking heads on TV and the regular fan have no idea if this will work out.

      • Ososfan

        So this. Canada for President!

      • True, we don’t know what’s going to happen, but when you tell the dealer to hit on 16, chances are , the results aren’t gonna turn up winner winner chicken dinner.

        Or in our case, it WILL turn up chicken dinner.

        We hit on 16 last night.

        Can we still win? Sure. But from what I saw of Floyd;s tape, the odds are stacked against us.

        • CanadaBear

          Gotta trust the coaches to develop the talent.

          • As a Bears fans, that’s the last thing I want to hear.

            I would much rather hear, “It’s a safe solid pick. Production not projection. The coaches would have to be retarded to fuck it up”.

            Maybe I’ve just been jaded, but I totally understand George’s sentiment.

            30 years of trusting the coaches to develop talent = 0 SBs

          • CanadaBear

            I get it but these coaches have demonstrated an ability to develop draft picks over their careers. No reason to think they can’t coach this guy up.

          • Scharfinator

            Yeah, what about 31 years!?

          • SC Dave

            THAT would be the great change I have been waiting for. For a really long time.

          • CanadaBear

            People have improved a lot under these coaches in their previous stops. Considering the talent on the field last year, I thought the D did about as well as could be expected. Street FA’s came in and didn’t embarrass themselves. Part of that is Pace and part of that is the coaches. With the new ILB’s, (JF, DT) I’m actually really excited to see them play.

        • Big Mike

          Butch I think your off on this.

          • I hope so.

            It’s not that I think Loyd will become a bust like Shea, Dion Jordan, or Mingo (though that also is a strong possibility. Name me the last “skinny” rusher who became a stud, Jayson Taylor?), but I think he’ll produce more like Bruce Irvin.

            That is not worth the #8 and a 4rth.

            We could’ve got Irvin in FA this FA and drafted Tunsil or Joseph and kept our 4rth.

          • Big Mike

            It’s a new era for rush men. Irvin would have cost a load of $. I think 16 million guaranteed, all in year 1. I think that is a direct 1 for 1 cap hit. I’m thinking the Bears project him playing in the “240s”. 6’6′ 245 fast, strong, agile, played against top competition, isn’t topped out in terms of technique (room to improve). He’s a boom/meh (I won’t say boom/bust) who will contribute yr 1, might dominate after that.

          • SC Dave

            I keep hoping too, to mask disappointment. Like hoping for Jay. Like hoping for Shea. Like hoping for Langford. Und zu weiter

          • MB30SD

            Give langy a chance maings. He impressed me last year.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Please don’t ever put Shea McClellin and Jay Cutler in the same sentence ever again. One is the franchise leader in virtually every single QB category and he did it with shit O lines, shit coordinators, shit coaching, back up WR’s and no fucking defense past 2011. The other guy was a multi year disaster that was kept around for gods knows what reason.

      • George Hotchkiss

        Dear CanadaBear, i agree, and neither do the coaches and GM. they are taking their best educated guess. But, they need to know that we fans are not looking for excuses or half ass performance. As Bear fans we should have the pride of expecting the very best from the folks who run the team. I believe the experience we had as fans with the last coach and GM was so bad we need to demand better performance, period. Ted Phillips and the McCaskeys are to blame for the last embarrassment. We can’t let them and the GM operate in a vacuum.

    • Irish Sweetness

      The Bears’ franchise quakes in its boots. Jesus Christ, everyone and his sister had Floyd going to us. Pace has done NOTHING wrong and people are flaming him for moving up for a guy when he has already won our trust. You guys are like revolving doors.

      How in the name of G-d does it matter if the pick is ‘dynamic’ or not? Can the guy play football is all that counts. Where do you Debbie Downers get your crystal balls?

      • Ososfan

        I just didn’t like he gave our early 4th for Floyd. Was hoping it was the 4 we got from NE…..

        • BC

          That was my main issue too but to be fair it’s nit picky on my part.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      With all due respect, you are an idiot. Did you get bored from being on hold too long with the Score to write this?

      • George Hotchkiss

        Please don’t call me names.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    SI mock draft has us grabbing….Connor Cook!
    (lays down in office doorway, starts slamming it shut on head repeatedly.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      it’s like no one watched the Bears for several years now.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Pretty much.

    • Big Mike

      interesting. At some point, you have to draft a QB. next year always seems to be a better time.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Totally get your point, but we have two developmental guys on the roster already. Is Cook better than either one of them? Probably. I thought he looked super sharp. But we have a roster that could do things this year. We are not the Browns.

        • Big Mike

          Fales was a 6th round pick for a reason. I have no idea who the other one is. Connor Cook could be Kirk Cousins. But 2 rounds better. By the time they need Cook, the Bears D will be remodeled, O-line should be well above average and Kevin White and Alshon the best 1-2 in the league πŸ™‚

        • SC Dave

          Our backup / development QBs do not impress

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Kids, hanging out with Drake is bad, mmmkay? Hanging out with his doofus hanger-ons is worse.
    This is your brain on OVO.
    https://twitter.com/WillBurge/status/725856474895896576/photo/1

    • Scharfinator

      Hah! I suspect he still doesn’t get it.

  • MB30SD

    Have to agree. Just wanted no wtf, and that’s what I got.

    I would have been happy staying at 11 (or even moving back a few) to get Joseph or tunsil or hargreaves.

    …anyway, pace has earned my trust and I’ll give him the Benny on this one, but he better fucking blow me away in 2-7, but all I wanted was not to feel that angelo/emery feeling last night, and that’s exactly what I felt.

    • MB30SD

      I will add that I have NO clue how floyd will do, I am just as open to the fact that he might become our jpp or alone smith (without the bang or alcoholism), as I am to him just being a sub-package contributor.

      • Big Mike

        Nobody knows how he will do. Nobody knows how Tunsil will do. Maybe he’s just a straight up idiot. Maybe he’s a broke ass kid that gets high and needed help for his mom to have heat and lights. I don’t think Emery had a plan to take McLellin. I think it just broke that way. The Bears had a scenario in front of them that they had not anticipated that year. There is no way CD was “targeted”. I believe Pace/Fox wanted Lloyd. So they got in front of NY and took him.

        • MB30SD

          Coach… excuses are like assholes. You know the rest.

          That scenario happens to me and 10 out of 10 I take Jones or mercilus. 10….out…of….10.

          But I’m not a fucking buffoon (from my perspective at least)

          • Big Mike

            You’re right. The Bears choked that draft away. I don’t know how they saw CD working out. My point wasn’t to relive that horrible moment in Bears history, but to point out the difference. POX wanted Lloyd. Chandler (bleepin Jones.. damn I forgot he went right after us more or less)

          • MB30SD

            Yeah I get it. A big part of my reaction was admittedly probably PTSD, but still.

            I just wanted to go “fuck yeah!” Not “what in thee fuck… not again?!?!”

          • Big Mike

            PTSD is right. Tunsil would have been a “fuck yeah”. To be honest that’s what I thought the trade was for. Because the Giants needed an OT. Their choice of Eli Apple is the biggest head scratcher of the first 15 picks.

          • MB30SD

            Me too. I told my buddies, watch this shit, we’re getting the consensus best player in the draft before all the pot bullshit. They call floyd and I was crushed… they both laughed at me. Sigh.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I left work and missed only one draft pick. By the time I got into the bar I saw us trade up and knew we had just gotten Ramsey. It was a glorious feeling. Then I realized that the only pick I missed on my way from work to the bar was Ramsey being selected. Needless to say, I abused alcohol at that point.

          • MB30SD

            Good for you, that’s really the only option

          • SC Dave

            I dunno…. one more early termination of Rodgers would have made it all worthwhile

          • MB30SD

            He couldn’t even finish that job correctly. Baaahahaha…. *sniff*

        • SC Dave

          And giants took Apple…. your theory is interesting

          • Big Mike

            The Giants definitely were pantsed. Their OT was gone and their DE was gone. They hadn’t calculated the Bears moving in front of them.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    PFT’s 2nd round Mock up to our pick:
    32. Jaguars* (projected trade): Myles Jack, LB, UCLA
    33. Titans: Andrew Billings, NT, Baylor
    34. Cowboys: Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson
    35. Chargers: Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas
    36. Bills* (projected trade): Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State
    37. Chiefs: Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson
    38. Browns* (projected trade): Vonn Bell, S, Ohio State
    39. Buccaneers: Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State
    40. Giants: Jason Spriggs, OT, Indiana
    41: Bears: Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama
    This is dumb however as it has A’Shawn Robinson and Chris Jones not being picked early. They will be picked early. As you can see, there is a possibility that if a WR or RB is taken along with a TE and NT that we could end up with a solid DT, S, CB, DE or even the 3rd rated OT in the draft in Spriggs. (Sorry Charles Leno).

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      I really, really don’t want Ogbah – he looked like trash.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        Someone else will make that mistake. We’re all good at OLB. I would take anyone on that small list except Ogbah, Billings and Connor Cook. Add in Robinson and Jones to that list and it means we’ll end up with a guy that can fill a need on our team immediately or create solid and much needed depth at CB, S, DT, DE, TE or OT

      • Big Mike

        He’s not a fit for our scheme. Won’t be him. Guaranteed.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Joseph vs. Vonn Bell – huge gap.
      Floyd vs. anyone else at OLB?
      THAT is the problem I have with the way it played out. Opportunity cost at getting a one trick pony vs. a stud at a different position of need.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        agreed. It’s weird though because Pace and Fangio REALLY fucking love Floyd. Like boner in pants love. They have to see something that they want to build on. We are so close and I feel that if we would have signed a healthy and productive Reggie Nelson for 2 years at safety while we stacked up that front 7 we would have been right at the cusp of a sick ass core of players. Then next year you could have filled in OL, CB and maybe even QB.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          I agree – other than that pick, I am legitimately thrilled with the offseason so far. I don’t want to throw Pace out a window. I think maybe it’s that the bar was set so high in FA that I’m so torqued about a crappy first round pick. I was on the no-Floyd wagon awhile ago.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            the only two guys I didn’t want were Elliot and Floyd so I know exactly what you’re saying.

    • Irish Sweetness

      No Jihad or Derrick Henry in the SECOND ROUND ???

      It is just a meaningless list of people’s names though ….

      • Henry looks stiff and upright and has questionable hands and route running.

        That’s why no one drafted him in the late 1st, or tried trading up for him, even teams with obvious needs at HB.

        But I predict a HB gold rush in the 2nd.

        Bold prediction. Henry is not the 1st HB taken in the 2nd round.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        This is just PFT’s list. Henry will be picked in the2nd. Jihad will be picked at the end of 2nd or in the early 3rd.
        I want Robinson, Reed or Jones. Meat that fits the 3-4. Ward is a project and we don’t do projects in the 2nd round.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    Fuck France.

    http://gtspirit.com/2016/04/28/porsche-911-set-fire-angry-protestors-france/

    They burned a 996, so punishment can be limited to the whip instead of death, but still… fuck France.

    • MB30SD

      Erra time I want to say that, I think about their bread…. and cheese… and whine (see what I did there).

      So no, let’s not. Now, frenchmen… that’s a different story

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Ugh, can we be on the clock so I can get excited about our 2nd rounder already?

    • DaMurph

      Boy I hope its someone we can really get excited about! I cant stand all these “WHAAAAT?” moments.

  • MB30SD

    GP gets +381 blog points for his avatar today…. and -382 blog points for his avatar today. Leaving him with a grand total -1 blog point for the day.

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      story of my god damn life.

      just when i think i am out! they pull me back in!

      • MB30SD

        Hahahahaha… exactly

  • beninnorcal

    So much negativity around here regarding the Floyd pick. I think the Mcclellan comparisons aren’t really fair. I, for one, trust Fox and Fangio. But my excitement has been overshadowed by everyone’s dread of Shea part deuce.

    • MB30SD

      Yeah, like I said to Mike, ben… I think a lot of us just have CD PTSD man.

      I think we just wanted a fuck yeah pick in 1 this year to wash the taste of that 4-year shit samich out of our mouths. I don’t think he’s a CD, but he ain’t a tunsil value either. That would have been a fuck yeah pick.

      And to be honest maybe floyd pans out to be a stud and tunsil turns out to be johnny manziel 2.0… but at least yesterday, I just wanted a fuck yeah, not a, ‘not again!’

      • DaMurph

        Amen my brother!!

      • beninnorcal

        I know, it is annoying how the Bears never seem to grab the no-brainer guy in round 1, no matter the regime apparently. The Tunsil thing seemed like a dream scenario.
        Hopefully Floyd becomes a solid contributor.

      • SC Dave

        And yet so many are OK with a #7 pick who has never played a down.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          Dave, there were 2 WR’s in the draft that everyone agreed were the top 2 and they performed and changed games during their tenures. he was our number one pick and this will be his first year. He just got hurt. Much different than sucking to begin with like McClellin. White was actually thought of as a complete fucking badass. Still is.

          No one questioned his strength, his speed, his ability to handle the physicality of the league, his production, where he should be picked in the draft, etc.

        • MB30SD

          T….B….D.

          David! If he sucks you can rail, doing so right now seems silly shit happens

    • Johnnywad

      Man, I just cannot see how anybody can even think of Floyd and McLellin simultaneously. How is that possible? Just look at where they played their college ball and their measurables.

  • Blackhawks63

    You know what is comical in terms of the fans who rip the Floyd pick? I mean utterly comical? That the idiots who rip the pick base that assessment on what their favorite mock drafts tell them. They believe these mock drafts as if they are the Holy Bible. When in fact, most mock drafts are semi-expert people who have a fraction of the football intelligence and scouting acumen that occupies Halas Hall (or any other team’s front office). So really, a fan is going to rip the Floyd pick because some mock draft published suggested that he should have been a mid to late round pick? The mock draft put together by some guy sitting naked on a folding chair in his mom’s basement should trump the scouting assessment of Ryan Pace and his staff?!? Or even the scouting assessment of somebody like Pro Football Weekly or ESPN should outweigh what Pace, his scouts, Fox, the coaching staff think about a player?

    If the draft were simply a linear exercise of picking who the mock drafts say should be picked when, then we wouldn’t have NFL General Managers, scouts, etc. Good friggin Lord some people need to get a grip.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      I could give a rip about a mock draft; I watched more than a thousand snaps of football in the week before the draft. Floyd looked like goddamn Gumby out there.
      Other guys looked much better.
      IF it makes you feel better, I think Buckner will be a bust, along with all of the first round corners, Bosa, and a few more.

      • MB30SD

        I was laughing my ass off at the bosa pick. So chargers of them. My buddy was like, might be good??

        I told him, there is only one jjwatt yo. You don’t want your DEs to be white… the Tradewind rule

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          I bugged my Chargers buddy here and said, “Bosa?”…one word response was, “Yep.”
          Not thrilled.

          • MB30SD

            Yeah, he should be fine in rotation. .. but don’t they have that guy already? Can’t remember his name. White guy really long hair, decent but not a beast

      • Blackhawks63

        So again, your scouting assessment from your armchair on TV or in person 40 rows up at Georgia football games should trump the professional football assessment of Ryan Pace, John Fox, Vince Fangio, the scouts, etc. Brilliant. Tell me, what NFL organization did you previously work with ? And how on earth do you watch all the snaps of all the college football games? You REALLY watched hundreds of hours of Georgia Bulldog football? Wow, you sure are a multi-tasker !

        • DaMurph

          Apparently you know nothing about Brownie!

          • Blackhawks63

            I know he’s a goofy bastard !

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Get bent, Max.

          • MB30SD

            Just stop feeding the douche

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Who DOESN’T know that at this point? You’re late to the party, buddy!

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Holy shit, dude – you know they actually have services that cut up the film for each player so you don’t have to watch 3 hours of football to see the snaps you want to see?
          It’s a miracle called the Internet, you idgit.

          • Blackhawks63

            And again, you are of such a keen football scouting mind that your assessment should trump that of a professional football team scouting staff. And so also by definition you imply that NFL GMs and scouts are a waste of time. Any schmuck can pick the right guy at the right spot, because after all there are these services that cut up the film for each player so you don’t have to watch 3 hours of football to see the snaps you want to see !! Priceless. Tell you what, it might be time to change the tin foil on your hand fabricated hat ! Maybe change the pipe cleaner attennas too because your reception is getting fuzzy !

          • DaMurph

            The foil is what makes him great, dont change it Brownie

          • SC Dave

            Yeah.. it’s like so shiny and stuff!

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            You’re right – the pros do such a phenomenal job that the NFL is moving to a non-draft model. Each player will simply be slotted in order to the teams on a rotated basis, because scouting is such an exact science, and egos and agendas certainly never factor into it.
            Shouldn’t you be coloring with the rest of the kids right now?

          • Blackhawks63

            This is priceless. You have completely left the reservation Geronimo ! Good friggin Lord I’ve never met such a loon. Don’t play with sharp objects please.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            your logic makes no sense though. You pretty much intimated that the scouts and GM of NFL teams are infallible and that they can’t be questioned. That is a crazy assertion. Did you not watch the last decade of drafting here in Chicago???

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            WHAT?!?!? Are you implying we did not have great drafts year after year for a decade? I always thought it was the coaching staff that messed up the players.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            it was that too. Haha, floors and cielings, upside and downside, need and BPA….all that bullshit from the PROS got us the biggest collection of muppets in years.

    • MB30SD

      You’re an idiot

    • DaMurph

      The guys on here dont give a rats ass about the mock draft. Alot of these men spend time watching film or having watched many of these players actually play in games. So seriously there is nothing comical about our questions or lack of satisfaction about certain picks. So if you are referring to people on here as comical, you are full of shit!

      • MB30SD

        Read my comment to this post below. Period.

      • Blackhawks63

        So let me get this straight. “A lot of these men” who are complaining on this site personally scouted Floyd to the level and degree Ryan Pace and your average NFL front office did? And also scouted a crap ton of other players to this degree to be able to offer up the opinion that Floyd was a stupid pick?!? Fascinating.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      And why do you care if I sit naked on a folding chair? What’s it to you?

      • DaMurph

        You werent in Moms basement, You were in your own backyard!

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Why I built the privacy fence!

          • MB30SD

            Fuckit. Let everyone marvel in your naked gloriousness

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            all fun and games till the cops show up. them bastards.

          • DaMurph

            It is glorious, although not as glorious as you MB!

          • MB30SD

            Thank you murph my brother. I have been told that I have a nice phallus… not big, just “nice looking”

          • DaMurph

            Nice trumps big any time according tho the ladies! Ha!!

      • Johnnywad

        I bet your nuts get cold

      • SC Dave

        Now THAT’S how to deal with trollish stuff!

    • Trac

      Where you around when the foundations of the world were made? Just sayin….

    • I’ll tell you this much. Based on some of the previous drafts, I think some guys on here would’ve drafted better than the “experts” Emery, and for sure Angelo, and I’m not even exaggerating.

      Don’t have to have a PHd in Scouting to not like a prospect.

      Most guys (on here at least, fuck the score idiots) don’t like certain players based on TAPE, not mock drafts.

      Like I told another, you only need eyes to form a valid assessment.

  • MB30SD

    My goodness, it’s going in like, extra slo mo now. Like something out of Deadpool

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/johnny-manziel-foots-bill-for-300-shots-of-whiskey-on-draft-night/ar-BBsqCb7?li=BBnb4R7

    …awesome movie btw.

    • beninnorcal

      Wow, almost sad. I didn’t see that movie yet, out on ppv here in a few weeks, I’ll definately check it.

      • MB30SD

        Watch it my brother. Goooood sheite. Suuuure violent so no kids or wives…. unless they’re super cool

        • beninnorcal

          I hear ya, was planning on watching solo, hence the ppv. The wife isn’t into such films. I’m lookin forward to it now, MB.

          • MB30SD

            It’s funny… I was watching it thinking I’m actually a lot like him from a sense of humor standpoint (I don’t have ‘I killed a lot of people I’m my past issues), but where he is a 10, I’m a 5 on the ridiculous humor scale… I say this because it’s hard to find chicks who get it.

            Wow, that was a fucking tangent. Hahaha you’ll enjoy the movie ben

        • willbest

          Meh, I watch Walking Dead with my wife, and discuss strategies on what we would do.

  • beninnorcal

    I think everyone needs to calm down a bit around here. Why does arguing always escalate so quickly in this day and age to name-calling and accusations of insanity?
    Pace needs a nice 2nd and 3rd round just to lighten the mood around here.

    • MB30SD

      Fucking hippie

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      It’s a comments section on the Internet, mostly.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      because Chicago’s oldest and most loyal longtime fan jumped on and started dropping nukes. So like any good North Korean dictator we have to blow that shit up. Pow Pow.

      Blackhawkscomplainer63 and George Wilcox come and drew their pistolas. We don’t take too kindly to that round herrrrr.

      Plus I’m “working from home” today so I’ve got some time to kill.

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        bang bang!

    • burntorangenavyblue

      There’s some debate going on, but not seeing any real heat or name calling here….othere than the reaction to George I guess

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        that’s nothing. I think I told you I wanted you to catch Ebola one time.

        • Picnics with the Yakuza

          but what he really meant was “a BOWL of”…delicious soup.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          You really said that? I seriously don’t think I have ever got into any serious name calling with you. I get along with everyone pretty well here.

          FYI, ebola is my favorite sickness to have

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Oh, I think it was IBNO actually. I did not wish Ebola upon you

  • willbest

    I wasn’t going to rant about my city’s building department but if you guys have nothing better to do than circle jerk with bh63… I would like you to take 10 seconds out of your day to commiserate with it being 4 weeks since I submitted my request for a new driveway permit and was told today it might be another 4 weeks.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      That sucks dude…………………I typed all those periods to eat up the entire 10 seconds. You’re welcome.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Don’t certain municipalities have a grace period of either approving or denying a submission of a permit request? And if it isn’t responded to by then you can either go ahead or make a grievance?

      • DaMurph

        I believe that would only be for zoning changes or anything out of the ordinary not just to do a driveway or a fence.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          That would be MADDENING to know your spring/summer project has been delayed by at least 8 weeks.

          If the driveway is in shambles and your fear of losing a part of your car or hurting yourself is imminent, than I would rather build it and pay the fine.

          • willbest

            Well its not that bad, but it definitely needs replacing. And if you are familiar with your town you know to plan ahead. Simple permits for fences, driveways take 2-3 weeks typically, but for whatever reason there is a backlog right now.

    • DaMurph

      Why 4? Is there a building boom in your town?

      • willbest

        Well spring is typically permit season, and I suspect that certain contractors know how to get their permits prioritized. A part of the town is in a flood plain. I am not in that section, but the result is they are particularly anal about anything that might change where water goes.

    • SC Dave

      Don’t feel bad. I was told I need to wait 6 to 8 WEEKS for a new tap so I can fix my sewer line. It’s really hard to not take a goddamn dump for that long!

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        bucket + trash bag. when full mail to the appropriate city department.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    Isn’t there, like, a Trump rally that BH63 should be at?

    • DaMurph

      Definitely from Wisconsin and a Scott Walker guy

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        I mean the Donald is all about “I know better than you, leave it to me, it will be YUGE,

        Don’t 2nd guess authority, you aren’t there so you don’t know.

        I mean that’s BH63’s wet dream.

      • CanadaBear

        No matter your politics, Scott Walker is one creepy looking guy. That sleepy-lidded look just screams psycho.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse
          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            someone fucked with his eyelashes just a little bit. That’s not right. Dude is a weirdo regardless.

          • CanadaBear

            Of all the people running for Prez, he scares me more than all of the others combined.

  • CanadaBear

    Well that was fun! If they go QB in the second, who are they taking? Hopefully they aren’t going that route but apparently they aren’t consulting me this weekend. Fuckers!

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      The only QB I want them to take is A’Shawn Robinson…who I believe played QB in grade school.

    • willbest

      They have a project QB in David Fales, who they thought enough of to elevate to #2 QB last year

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        yes they thought real highly of him to elevate him to #2. it had nothing to do with the dumpster fire that was Pickles.

        • willbest

          My point being which of the QB’s remaining outside Connor Cook who apparently needs an attitude adjustment more than anything else, can you look at and go, he has more potential than the guy we have been developing already for a couple years

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            I like Hackenberg

          • willbest

            I doubt he makes it to the 3rd.

      • CanadaBear

        Desperate times call for desperate measures.

  • MB30SD

    Welp, just ran into jeff Garcia in the supermarket. He didn’t watch the draft

    • haha, really?

      Should ask him if he could pass rush.

      • MB30SD

        Yep. Nice guy. His daughter is a pretentious little thing. Adorable

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          He played for the Omaha semi-pro team a few years back. Poor guy was running for his life every game.
          He’s pretty small, isn’t he?

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            but not smaller than MB

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Hahahahahahahahahahaha
            I can laugh because he was pulling a playmate. Love you maing!

  • Irish Sweetness

    We’re picking 10th in the second, but 9th in the third round? Mmmkay,

    Not missing morning sleep for that, so have fun and be NICE to each other.

    Think we get :

    Round 2: Jihad Ward

    Round 3: Jordan Howard

    Hope we get:

    Round 2: Jihad Ward

    Round 3: Derrick Henry / Su’A Cravens (to safety) / Jordan Howard … in that order

    And don’t forget the boobies just because it’s a draft day!

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      It’s a strength of schedule thing. I think. I can’t remember. Screw it. There is some reason for it.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I did not know that.

        • MB30SD

          …and knowing is half the battle irish

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Gooooooooo Joe!

    • Only time where the Trib can run with “Jihad in Chicago!” and everyone be excited.

      • MB30SD

        Bah duh….. tiiis!

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      why would we pick a 3rd rounder in the beginning of round 2 then ask him to play a new position? Irish, I promise you, there will be no Jihad in Chicago.

      • MB30SD

        Diiiiis!

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Please no picking of players to be in a new position…..

        *breathes into a paper bag

        • Big Mike

          If you categorize Floyd as a “project” because he has to gain weight, in round two you need a guy that is “pro ready”. Who you think that is, I don’t know.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Just in response about any further pick, not about Floyd being a project…

            Wait is he a project pick?!?

            Where’d I put that bag?

          • MB30SD

            Jack burton…….. Me!

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            no, Jihad is a project.

          • Big Mike

            Just saying a nice proven #2 pick is what the dr ordered

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            He did not look like a project. He looked like a man child.

          • willbest

            I don’t understand the weight thing. If the guy has the right attitude the Bears trainers will get 10-15 of the right pounds on him by the start of the preseason.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            I dunno, to me, when bulking up like that, does that translate that your mind can adjust to the new physique in time to play properly?

            Like a kid hitting their growth spurt, the brain cannot stop making the bdy movement all awkward. A tiny alien contolling a creaky robot machine

          • Big Mike

            PTSD from chicken dinner.

          • MB30SD

            Told you

          • That’s what we said about Grassu.

            Then he was put on skates when he finally got a chance to play late in the season, and quickly benched.

            I heard that year 2 is really when the body takes NFL shape, so we shall see with Grassu and Floyd.

            Also, gotta remember, Floyd is not 19. He’s 23!

            He should be meaty already.

            Some guys just have the David Chapelle gene.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I hate bringing him up again, but he’s got that Gaines Adams leanness to him.

          • willbest

            fair enough

          • Fuck it. We should just double down. All projects. One of them has to pan out.

            Pace apparently like 23 yr old rookies, so who’s 23-30 years old mocked to the 2nd?

          • Shady

            Go big or go home. No use staying stuck in the dreaded 9-7 to 7-9 range like we did with Lovie.

            The 1st round is littered with guys whose measurable are off the charts. Speed, explosiveness and athleticism are more important than anything else right now. I think GMs understand this and you see it reflected in the results from last night. So (to use a baseball analogy) they step up to the plate, take a big cut and choke up on the bat in the middle rounds.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Here’s some Su’A anti-highlights (and some good stuff) vs. ND
      Oof.
      https://youtu.be/Mxc3tlAN1kM?t=37
      Uh.
      https://youtu.be/Mxc3tlAN1kM?t=110
      Right idea – but then….
      https://youtu.be/Mxc3tlAN1kM?t=146
      Didn’t fall for the keeper this time.
      https://youtu.be/Mxc3tlAN1kM?t=185
      Good job forcing the runner back inside
      https://youtu.be/Mxc3tlAN1kM?t=218
      Gets the shit blocked out of him.
      https://youtu.be/Mxc3tlAN1kM?t=238

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Cravens makes some nice plays in the second half, but I got lazy and quit catching the time.
        He’s like Darron Lee minus the speed, the tackling, and the pass rush.

        • MB30SD

          Ooooh, titillating!!

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Yeah yuck. Me no likey

    • Big Mike

      Irish, we also would have picked 8th in the 4th. There were 4 teams tied with 6-10 records. They draft in reverse order of strength of schedule. Then everyone moves up one and the tied team with the weakest strength of schedule goes to the back of the line. The original order before trades was Miami, Tampa, NY, Chicago. (8,9,10 and 11) for round 1. In round two it would be Tampa, NY, Chicago, Miami at 8,9,10 and 11 of the second round. In the fourth round our pick was #8.

  • Fuck. Cowboys sniffing around da Dodd.

    Assholes.

    • MB30SD

      And you know this… maaan!

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      think Jack goes 1st?

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        how much Jack?

      • Nope. “degenerative” “bone on bone” “microfracture” there’s still too much talent like Dodd, Ashwan, Henry, desperate QB.

        I think he might be there for us.

        And it wouldnt’ surprise me if he drops out of the 2nd either

        Jack might even stay in his hotel tonight.

        πŸ™

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Jack off the board? Sad times I guess?

          • Captain Obvious

            Jack off?

            No way.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          We are all degenerative.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    2 hours to go

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    This one is for willbest, even pedants need some education sometime

    http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2013/04/25/1923231/coburn-nfl-tax-exempt/

    • willbest

      You, and thinkprogress, are under the mistaken belief that the NFL needs to structure itself as it does in order to “dodge” those taxes. It doesn’t.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        So why does it?

        • willbest

          Probably the only person that knows the answer to that question is the NFL’s tax lawyer.

          Although the reason it was done initially is that the was the loophole congress gave them to get around the antitrust implications resulting from the merger.

          Baseball being the only sport worthy of the “It’s not a business, its a game” exception to the Commerce Clause, does not need to structure itself that way, and in fact stopped doing so, so it didn’t have to file public returns.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Legal firm… Fixed that for ya

  • MB30SD
    • burntorangenavyblue

      Car reminds me of the Speed Racer movie….

      DO NOT SEE THAT MOVIE, seizures and WTF moments galore

      • MB30SD

        Speed racer…. movie?!?!

        Dude, I hope you saw that shit fo free

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Yeah, on tv

  • Shady

    NFL Draft Day 2 begins in T-40 mins. BRING IT ON GOODELL!

    This first part of the second round should be FILLED with action. Can’t. wait.

    • MB30SD

      Speaking of action, I’m working from home today and my next meeting isn’t til fo, get online fool

      • Shady

        5 mins, need to get my Laremy Tunsil gas mask first.

        • MB30SD

          That would be a nice side biz for him if he gets popular

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Cuz you farted

  • AlbertInTucson

    DaBearsBlog β€Ž@dabearsblog

    “Bears weren’t lying. They like Charles Leno.”

    Would we rather have the Circus that is now Laremy Tunsil?

    • MB30SD

      Fuck. Yes.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Yep, totally see Virginia putting on the gas mask and joining the band wagon

        • burntorangenavyblue

          But she might think to wear it for another reason….ya know, she’s from another era

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Virginia: I like that young man. Is there nerve gas in his room?

            Family: Uh, uh, uh…..

        • MB30SD

          Here’s what I don’t get… elliot and bosa both had huge stories about them from players and other eye witnesses saying they partied every fucking weekend using a hard schedule a like molly constantly.

          But tunsil is a total risk because of a video of him smoking week once?!!?

          Like… wtf?!?!

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Talked about stories are nothimg of a lightning rod than VIDEO EVIDENCE

          • willbest

            Its like Shaggy says

  • AlbertInTucson

    Conspiracy Theory: The Dolphins HAD all that dirt on Tunsil and released it so he’d slide to them.

    • MB30SD

      Ooooooohhhh, you naught boy

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Would like to know what Irish thinks!

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        It was Janet Yellen.

    • Shady

      Mmmnnno.

  • Shady

    BUTKUS.

  • Shady

    So ESPN or NFL Network for round 2?

  • Shady

    Browns go QB here? Again? Jack perhaps?

    • If they get Cook that would be another DISASTER.

      Think they continue building D.

      • Shady

        Ogbah. Meh.

        • The rush on Dline begins.
          Wouldn’t surprise me if 3 in a row are drafted

          • willbest

            Well since they all went offense the first time around, and all their defenses need work that makes sense.

  • So how many picks do the Brownstains have left? Like 12?

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      love that vintage Avatar

  • willbest

    Eagles are going to pay Bradford, Daniels and Wentz over $40 million this year (though the cap hit for them will be closer to 23 million).

    Lets talk trading

    Bradford received an 11 million signing bonus so any team acquiring bradford would have him on a 2-year 24 million deal of which they would be obligated to pay him $11 million. So he is rather trade friendly for the acquiring team, even if he comes as a $11 million cap hit to the Eagles.

    Chase Daniels on the other hand is quite expensive. He signed 3yr 21 million, $12 million fully guaranteed of which only $3 million was signing bonus. So a team that traded for him would owe him $4 million in 2016 (okay for a backup I suppose), but then $7 million in 2017 of which $5 million would be fully guaranteed.

  • willbest

    I am happy Bears don’t have him as an option.

    • questionable fire. No thanks.

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        Ogbah has no fire?

        • Mayock was talking about having to “push the right buttons”.

          That doesn’t sound like a self-motivated guy.

        • Picnics with the Yakuza

          “He’s stiff and upright so he has no counters as a rusher and then he doesn’t even play hard all the time. If you are going to be the hulk, then play hard all the time.” Β­– NFC area scout

  • Captain Obvious

    Ogbah gone. Lots of people thought the Browns would deal the pick.

    • willbest

      They have to start spending them at some point

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Browns trade away all picks for next 10 years so that they can have every draft picks for two rounds in 2026.

        They would still find a way to suck.

  • Captain Obvious

    Crossing my fingers for Dodd

  • The Freak!

    • willbest

      He wasn’t going to slip to us.

  • NOOOOOOOO

  • Captain Obvious

    FUCKING TITANS

  • Captain Obvious

    As much as some people here have a man-crush on Ward, he’s not worth #41

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Definitely going to be a run on defensive players….incoming trades and switcheroos imminent

  • Shady

    Wow.

  • WOW!

    Jaylon Smith to Boys

    • willbest

      Good for him.

  • Captain Obvious

    Woah. The Cowboys blow a high 2nd round pick on a medical redshirt who might never be right?

    • willbest

      But if he is…

  • Jesus, if Jaylon does come back to form, he’s gonna run through a wall for the Boys.

    Glad he’s not in our division.

  • Shady

    Side note: SD Chargers have the second best fight song in the league.

  • willbest

    Maybe it is just Jerry, but it is a bit surprising that somebody is higher on smith than Jack

  • Shady

    Was hoping Henry would drop, ’twas just a dream in reality.

    • willbest

      Really you think he is worthy?

      • Shady

        Fills a big need, could contribute right away.

        • Picnics with the Yakuza

          NFL analyst disagrees thinks he’s a 2 year project, wont get touched in FF

          • He’s no Graham, eh Gp?

            (hehe)

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            not one of my proudest moments

          • The oddest part of all that?

            Wilson became fucking Dan Marino…when Graham went down.

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            it was a master class lesson on the importance of the system to the player

          • Shady

            No coach or GM gives a flying fart about FF.

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            NFL.com however loves the guy

            BOTTOM LINE By far, the premier tight end in the 2016 draft. Henry is a big body with the athleticism to get open, the hands to finish catches in traffic and the blocking ability to help give a running game the additional kick it might be missing on the edge. Henry should come in and become a very good NFL starter.

    • The TE, or HB?

  • willbest

    Jags planning to go to the superbowl this year

    • burntorangenavyblue

      AC south is weak, it’s possible to get a few playoff wins

      • burntorangenavyblue

        NEVER MIND!

  • burntorangenavyblue

    We need a rnd 2 and 3 thread, comment overload here

  • Captain Obvious

    Crap. I was hoping for Henry after Dodd got taken.

  • Shady

    Jags D could be NASTY.

    • willbest

      They still got Jack just a round after everybody thought they were going to take him.

    • Folwer, Ramsey and Jack.

      • willbest

        Malik Jackson…

        • If Bortles is not a dud, they should beat the Colts.

          I also prefer the Jags coach.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Bortles I think has great potential, just didn’t have the premier pieces to help him out. Definitely didn’t dissapoint ladt year on my fantasy team as a backup

  • Damn. My all-knee team dream CRUSHED

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      Miles Jack and Jalen Ramsey on the Jags D now.

  • Captain Obvious

    Well, all those mocks DID have Jack going to JAX.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Jax squared

  • Captain Obvious

    If Jack’s knee is fine, the Jags just won the draft.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Yeah, AFC South is weak, so a good chance to finish strong

  • Captain Obvious

    Jack off the board.

    • Shady

      heh heh

      jack off

      • willbest

        grammar is the difference between helping your uncle jack, off a horse, and helping your uncle jack off a horse

        • Duh

          Eat, grandma!

          Eat grandma!

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Loved Jack but the only silver lining is that more of the guys we NEED are dropping right to us.

    • Shady

      Who you got?

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        since Ogbah, Smith, Jack ate up those picks I think we end up with A’Shawn, Jones or Reed. Just like we need.

        Then next year we can pick the best S and CB in the draft and the core is set.

        • Shady

          Jones is gone. Not sure how long the ‘Bama drought will last.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            fuck

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    NOOOOOOOO

    • willbest

      A moment of silence please.

    • Just brutal.

      OG, here we come…

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        so….uh….. how about that whitehair kid…

      • willbest

        If we draft a guard I will throw a shoe.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          At what?

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            his taxes

          • willbest

            puppies and children of course

          • burntorangenavyblue

            That’s one magic shoe

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      gut punch.

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        this is Donald to the Rams painful

        • Shady

          Not even close.

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            ok i exaggerate

          • Shady

            I mean he may end up a HOF who knows, but Donald was RIGHT THERE.

  • Captain Obvious

    A’shawn, be there…

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      the kid is in free fall.

      perhaps because his sack count is low. Is that Bama or is it him?

  • Somebody, stop the bleeding.

    Draft QBs, HBs, TEs and more ILBs!

    Where’s that kicker mocked to the 3rd?

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Pace should have moved up. The run is beginning on D.

    • Shady

      No.

  • EnderWiggin

    Ian Rapoport
    @RapSheet

    Before the #Cowboys picked #ND LB Jaylon Smith, they came thisclose to trading with the #Bears before it fell apart

  • burntorangenavyblue

    You know if Brady could get a hold of anyone drafted by the Pats, he’d text them to stab Goodell in the back when hugging

  • willbest

    Apparently a lot of people are getting worried at the top of the 2nd about their pick disappearing.

    • Everyone knew the rush on D was gonna happen. But man….

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Jones was a legit 3-4 DE. Bears need a legit 3-4 DE. HE was the guy. The run will continue. Pace may have missed the boat.

      • Just depends on what the Cowboys were asking.

        Jones plays hardball.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Hopefully a tradedown to get more 2nd or 3rd rounders then by the Bears

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          that doesn’t help us. There was 1st round talent to be had at the top of the 2nd round.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Yeah I know……..

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        he …… was….. (hums)

        …. a black magic mountain…..

        a black magic mountain….

        • Shady

          (man meat mountain)
          points

  • So who’s left?

    (don’t say Jihad or O’Henry bar)

  • Quid pro quo?

    Bears just traded down with Bucs, and I agree.

    Edit. Tradedown with Bills

    Might as well. Dodd and Jones gone. Most of the other guys in same tier.

    • willbest

      If we miss out on Jihad, I am gonna be madballz

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Gonna throw the other shoe?

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Wow, if we need more defensive pieces, sayonara if we don’t get it done

  • Doc Nitty

    Who’s it going to be boys?

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    did we just trade out of the 2nd entirely?

  • beninnorcal

    When’s our next pick now, wtf?

    • willbest

      They would have to give us their 1st next year if they aren’t giving us their 49th pick this year.

  • beninnorcal

    Not til 49 now? wtf?

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Fucking Angelo trade back bullshit. We now lose out on Robinson and Reed.

    • Shady

      Never know, may trade back up maings.

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        we got back the 4th and a pick next year

    • Not sure on that. One might still be there.

      Plus, Jihad!

      I bet the Bears draft a Dline guy we didn’t even expect.

      That’s just my gut feeling/

  • beninnorcal

    And what do WE get out of the deal? Another 6th or something?

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Pace just got pantsed.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      What happened

      • Doc Nitty

        Trade sounds like a win to me!

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      8 spots in the 2nd for a 4th and a contingent pick next year.

      Let’s see who Bills take. Probably somebody with beautiful feet.

      • CanadaBear

        Gotta be Rag

        • Picnics with the Yakuza

          yep

  • Shady

    Bears Talk

    @CSNBears

    3m

    Bears trade pick No. 41 to Bills for pick No. 49, No. 117 and a 2017 fourth rounder. Insane value to move down just 8 spots. #BearsTalk

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      thanks Shady, the radio feed said next year was contingent, but it does appear to be a 4th.

      So really, that’s two 4ths.

    • Agree.

      We got TWO 4rth rounders for 8 spots.

      That’s winning.

      The rest of the guys seem more or less the same.

      I bet Pace gets his target anyways

  • Ragland to Bills perfect fit.

    They’ll get the most out of him.

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      Ryan is running the Jets formula.

    • So Rex Ryan only drafts Auburn players, or player who have played Auburn.

  • Doc Nitty

    It’s fine, we get two additional players (or draft ammunition) and only move back 8 spots. Seem Seahawksesque to me. Stock up on players, increase the odds of getting a gem.

    • Pace is gonna get some athletic freak we weren’t expecting.

      Book it.

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        a 6’9″ free safety.

        #FuckHailMary

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      It’s never fine when you don’t meet a need in the current year. We don’t have the depth on DL or talent at DE right now. Pace assumed his guys would be there and you saw how that shit went down.

      • Both Dodd and Jones were gone.

        The other next 3-4 Dlinemen are kinda the same.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          not if they aren’t there at 49 man.

          • Nah, 1-or-2 will be.

            LB back to back now.
            A WR here, Oline there.

            We’ll have options at 49

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            this feels like Angelo. Pace got fucking cute and lost out on multiple guys at the top of the round.

          • If Reed an/or Robinson there at 49, will u forgive him?

            (I don’t think we want either tho)

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I secretly was hoping for Jack and Jones so i’ll be a little pissed at him for a while.

          • We couldn’t get either unless we gave up like a 2nd, 3rd and 4rth.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            to get Jones???? it was like 2 picks before us.

          • Jones was 6 picks b4 us, and according to someone, we almost did trade up for him with the Cowboys, but the Cowboys didn’t want to give up Jaylon Smith, and the Chiefs who drafted Jones right after weren’t about to give him to us.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Tsk tsk

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            Jarran Reed maybe?

  • Doc Nitty

    Remind me, is today rounds 2 & 3 or just 2?

  • We also might target a S.

    Zag when everyone zigs

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      I’m gonna get tomatos thrown at me for this but Jeff called it, Whitehair is the best pick there

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        If we go Whitehair, it means Pace has tired of the Hronuss Bonus.

      • Doc Nitty

        Sorry. All I have handy are coconuts.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    The OG #24 for the Raidahs….

  • Shady

    Sorry guys, the war is over.

  • Shady

    That’s now 11 of 13 picks on the D side of the ball.

  • willbest

    Shoe is now in the neighbors swimming pool.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I want a picture!

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Did you hit puppies and children in the pool?

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    Le’Raven Clark at 49…. come on….

  • Pasting Irish’s list

    5. Myles Jack, OLB, UCLA (6-1, 243, no 40 time)

    13. A’Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama (6-3 5/8, 307, 5.2 40)

    16. Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson (6-5, 277, 4.86 40)

    18. Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama (6-1 1/4, 242, 4.72 40)

    21. Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama (6-2 7/8, 307, 5.2 40)

    30. Kamalei Correa, DE, Boise State (6-2 5/8, 243, 4.69 40)

    32. Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama (6-2 5/8, 247, 4.54 40)

    33. Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas (6-4 7/8, 250, 4.66 40)

    34. Jason Spriggs, OT, Indiana (6-6 5/8, 301, 4.94 40)

    36. Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State (6-4 1/4, 273, 4.63 40)

    38. Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson (5-10 3/8, 190, 4.47 40)

    39. Sterling Shepard, WR, Oklahoma (5-10 1/4, 194, 4.48 40)

    40. Jihad Ward, DE, Illinois (6-5 1/8, 297, 5.11 40)

    41. Chris Jones, DT, Mississippi State (6-5 3/4, 310, 5.03 40)

    42. Austin Johnson, DT, Penn State (6-4 3/8, 314, 5.32 40)

    43. Cody Whitehair, OG, Kansas State (6-3 3/4, 301, 5.08 40)

    45. T.J. Green, S, Clemson (6-2 1/2, 209, 4.34 40)

    47. Jonathan Bullard, DT, Florida (603, 285, 4.93 40)

    48. Vonn Bell, S, Ohio State (5-10 3/4, 199, 4.5 40)

    49. Su’a Cravens, OLB, USC (6-0 3/4, 226, 4.64 40)

    50. Tyler Boyd, WR, Pittsburgh (6-1 1/2, 197, 4.5 40)

    51. Darian Thompson, S, Boise State (6-1 7/8, 206, 4.69 40)

    52. Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor (6-0 5/8, 311, 5.05 40)

    53. Devontae Booker, RB, Utah (5-10 3/4, 219, no 40 time)

    54. Maliek Collins, DT, Nebraska (6-1 7/8, 311, 5.03 40)

    55. Kendall Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech (5-11 1/2, 187, no 40 time)

  • Captain Obvious

    Ward was not worth that pick. He was 3rd round talent. Raiders reached. Sorry, Irish.

  • Captain Obvious

    “There are NFL teams who believe Raiders’ 2nd-round pick, DE Jihad Ward, will need arthroscopic knee surgery that could sideline him 6 weeks.” (Schefter)

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    Andrew Billings or LeRaven?

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    I can’t stand this trading back bullshit. Pace, make the goddamn pick you fucking dork.

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      Von Bell is also there

    • Big Mike

      Everybody wanted to trade back in round 1. Now it’s a bad thing. The difference between 41 and 48 no big deal. Right now we’re all just in love with the guys in the top 10 of the second round.

  • Ososfan

    Is there a magic Deforest Buckner clone who is available in the mid second round? Lol

  • Shady

    Titans are becoming legit.

    • willbest

      Yes well they have something like 7 picks in the first 3 rounds or some such.

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      Murray / Henry run rotation with Mariota back there

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Pace, as I said before, may just prepping this team to make a blockbuster pick for next year or getting ready to find our next QB

  • That Titans O should be interesting with Henry and Maritoa

    • Shady

      And that line dough.

  • we should trade our 2d, 3rd, two 4rths for Mo!

  • Lions, BOOOO

    • Shady

      Fack.

  • DaMurph

    There goes A

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Dang, A’Shawns future brothers in law look like NFL players

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Or friends?

  • I think we’re drafting a S, just not sure which one.

    TJ Green?

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Yeah, or best player available

    • willbest

      But he isn’t white.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Go throw a another shoe dammit! Name it after a former white Bears safety and aim for the pool!

    • Shady

      Bullard.

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      Billings to spell Goldman

  • DaMurph

    Connor Cook??????

  • RenoBear

    Pretty pissed ashawn hoes to f-in Lions… I’m real curious who Pace thinks is going to be there at 49

  • Big Mike

    Pace doing work. Atta boy

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      he’s doing great work for the NFC North….the rest of it.

      • Big Mike

        Stop. It’s just silly to fall in love with any one guy at this stage of the game. In hindsight, in 2-3 years maybe it’s a great move. Maybe it’s a terrible move

  • SC Dave

    We ain’t picked yet?

    • DaMurph

      NOPE

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    you know who GB will fucking take.

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      whitehair

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Anyone that the Bears wanted?

  • willbest

    That is a sizable tradeback for the Colts

  • Fucken Packers

  • Doc Nitty

    Packers may have just fucked us

  • burntorangenavyblue

    GB going offensive I think, te or wr, or perhaps oline

    • willbest

      I don’t really care if they go offense.

    • Big Mike

      Oline

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Haha! Love the booing!

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    ha, like clockwork.

  • OT Spriggs

    Meh

    More intresting. The Pack thought we’d draft him

    • Big Mike

      Don’t think that was the case

    • willbest

      Plenty of people between them and the colts

      • Yeah, but you don’t move up that many spots, esp the Pack who never do that, unless u think that team right after is gonna get ur guy

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      best OT on the board. The only guy i wanted if the mountains were gone. It’s like i am nostradomus.

  • beninnorcal

    Does that mean Spriggs was on Pace’s radar?

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Yeah, Vadgers needs protection or he’s toast

  • willbest

    That wasn’t to screw us, I think they were just moving up.

  • DaMurph

    Spriggs a nice pick, I woulda been happy with him.

  • Reed is still there, but I think we’re going S

  • beninnorcal

    Are we going to trade down again here? hahaha

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Good call

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Safety or corner here

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Gaddamn raiders got BOTH my sleeper picks. And we missed ward by trading down. Perfect.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    i’m out.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Holy fuck

  • willbest

    I don’t have any more shoes.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Have a lady? I’m sure she has plenty, free up closet space.

      • willbest

        She does have plenty of shoes, but her vices are purses and coats.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Can blaming Pace get you excused?

  • beninnorcal

    Wow! I was only kidding! Traded down again?!

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Fucking ridiculous.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Pick some lottery numbers!

  • beninnorcal

    What theeeee fuck?

  • Shady

    Another 4th? OK

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      This is in the realm of the absurd

  • DaMurph

    WTF is the reason to keep trading down??? Grab a fucking player playa!

    • Shady

      At this point they probably have a group of players they would be OK drafting in the 2nd, so why not accumulate as many picks as you can in the meantime?

  • lol. Just trade down to compensatory 7th rounders!

  • beninnorcal

    I guess we’re only targeting 4th round players this year.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      All about the practice baby!

  • Big Mike

    Lots of beautiful ball players left. Jarran Reed DT, Mackenzie Alexander CB, tj green FS,

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      All gone. Reed wasn’t good enough for Pace but was for the Seahawks abused our pick to get him. We moved too far back and both green and Alexander were picked. Pace got outclassed.

  • beninnorcal

    Here’s hoping that Pace is the master of the 4th

  • Now here comes the rush on Olinemen…

  • burntorangenavyblue

    So I guess the Bears will have every 4th round pick?

    • willbest

      yeah but they are crappy 4th rounders because we traded our good one. 19th, 26th, and 29th.

  • EnderWiggin

    Can we get two 4th rounders for our 3rd?

    • beninnorcal

      Guess we’ll see, hahaha

  • Trac

    C’mon guys, cheer up. So many underclassmen entered the draft last year that this year the Pickens are slim. If Pace can create extra picks and really not lose much value, in any, more power to the guy.

    • I like it, as long as we get the right guys.

      After Jones, Jaylon, Jack and Dodd were gone, they’re all kinda the same, on D at least (IMO)

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I don’t, this is the dumbest fucking thing I’ve seen since….. Yesterday??

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          Rum and cokes are.now being slammed. This feels like the bad old days.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Already started drinking em an hour ago! Cheers mate!

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        All of the “same” guys are gone

    • Big Mike

      Exactly. We moved back 15 picks and picked up two 4th round guys.

      • 505Bears

        This is looking like a fantasy football draft. If you don’t want to win

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        Nothing brilliant about watching other teams steal your draft board.

        • Big Mike

          Your draft board not the Bears

          Sent from Outlook
          _____________________________

        • Big Mike

          Oh that …

          Sent from Outlook Mobile

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Is this draft about football?

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    This is not how you build a core. This is how Angelo fucking fucked us. Pick a cocksucking player.

    • DaMurph

      Thank you yonny!!!

    • burntorangenavyblue

      NTTAWWT

      • beninnorcal

        I was about to say the exact same thing

    • There’s no white safeties in the 2nd, but lots in the 4rth!

      • Shady

        You’re a button pusher, aren’t you?

      • willbest

        Alright, as long as there is a strategy for getting a white safety, I can trust Pace a little bit longer.

      • Big Mike

        You’re both just being impatient. Bears move back 15 spots and pick up 2 players. They still have a 2nd and a 3rd. It’s genius.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          Mike, they actively chose not to select plAyers with 1st round grades. For a defense that played 4UDFAs last year and that has Charles Leno Jr at fucking left tackle.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Bingo. Just look at the guys we missed in the first trade down.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            It’s inexcusable.

          • Big Mike

            How do you know what these guys are going to be? You don’t. You can turn anything either positive or negative at this point, based on how the players develop.

          • Big Mike

            Could be a lot of reason. Stockpiling picks was all the rage less than 2 weeks ago. I don’t know what the plan is. But there is one. Also picked up they are shopping Houston. Take the trade back as a sign of confidence that they don’t need any one player because they have identified 10 players they like in the 2nd round.

        • DaMurph

          Those 15 spots could be the difference between the bench and being on the field.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Is Chicago wanting to NOT host the draft anymore? Sophmoric burnout? Slump?

    • willbest

      Chicago does, the NFL thinks it can make more money getting towns to bid on it.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Just saying: Host city that hold the draft DOES NOT DRAFT!

        Interesting I guess?

    • Pace is milking it while it’s still in CHI!

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    How many 4th rounders does it take to get Wilkerson?

  • willbest

    Here is the thing with too many draft picks. You have to put them on your roster. So even though more picks means more chances at hitting, it also means potentially having to carry more dead weight.

    • Shady

      Can still use those picks to move back up.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Back up where????? Is there a do over on round one and nobody told me?

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          3rd round for a slow white safety

          • Shady

            Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah.

    • Captain Obvious

      You don’t have to put them on your roster. You CAN cut guys you drafted.

      • willbest

        Well obviously, but then why draft them. 4th rounders aren’t 6th and 7th rounder fliers.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Whose draft has been worse? Tunsil or Pace? Pace, because his freefall has gone way past the first round.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    alright my WTF moment. I fell asleep and just woke up and we traded for a bunch of 4th rounders so far.

  • The funny part is that Pace will likely use those 4rth rounders to trade back up and get their guy.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      They were all picked after our last trade back.

      • Big Mike

        All the good players are picked?

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          All the first round grades at positions of need are now gone. Every single one of them

          • Big Mike

            Yeah. Bears must not have graced it the same way. Hope they’re right

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            They’re not, we lost our guys right before each pick.

        • willbest

          I guess the question is, What percentage of pro-bowlers are either undrafted FAs or drafted #65 or below.

      • Not YOUR guy, THEIR guy.

        A S, or HB.

  • Shady

    Hack attack.

    • willbest

      Amazing how far Connor has fallen he was talked about a potential #1 back in Nov.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Penningtons eyes looks as if he has no soul, yikes

  • Fitzmagic just found himself without a team.

    It’ll be interesting to read Bmarsh’s tweets on this.

    • willbest

      BMarsh is probably the reason Fitzmagic wanted more than 8 million. Honeymoon is over. Now you are talking hazard pay.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    “Will the real Chicago Bears please stand up?”

    “Will the real Chicago Bears please stand up?”

    • No, but they’ll sure trade down

      Zing!

      How could you guys not laugh at this? This shit is funny.

      • EnderWiggin

        I’m amused. I will let this play out for a year or two before I go apeshit.

        • willbest

          So one day in 2018 you are going to throw a chair against a wall?

          • EnderWiggin

            Yeah. Although it could be as early as next year. Or tomorrow. But I’m cool now.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            We will be asking and bugging you to throw a chair, you know that right?

        • I said it last night, after trading up for Loyd, I threw logic out the window.

          Look at my avi.

  • Doc Nitty

    I’m telling you guys. This is how the Hawks built their team. The more lottery tickets you buy, the higher your chances of winning.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    maybe they had to trade back because the former Bear player to make the draft pick announcement was in the shitter.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Lol at this

  • burntorangenavyblue

    All 4 one!

    And One 4 all! -Pace’s motto

    *ducks from Willbest throwing his wife’s shoes

  • SC Dave

    Did we pick yet?

    • burntorangenavyblue

      What is picking? As a Bears fan, drafting is a foreign comcept to me…

      • EnderWiggin

        Its like the nerdy guy in line at school. “Go ahead, you first. Lemme get that door for you.”

  • I don’t get the trend in hybrid s/LB

    Is it cuz of the read option?

    Mobile QBs?

    We play against 2 immobile QBs and Vadgers who kills u with both his feet and arm.

    I still contend we need a cover FS.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      We just need to put landmines in the field and say fuck it against them

    • SC Dave

      We need ‘once a year’ Shea to fuck up Vadgers , and it’s all good!

  • Big Mike
  • willbest

    Maybe we really did want Spriggs and the Packers really did fuck us

    • Wouldn’t surprise me. Didn’t we go after another OT even when Massie was signed?

      Like I said, teams don’t trade right b4 another, esp div rival, unless they feel that team is gonna draft their guy

      The Pack did it before when they drafted the safety Angelo was gonna draft.

  • Didn’t we trade down for Rex and Haynes? Can’t be worse than that.

    • Shady

      Ev!

      • I wanted to make a white safety joke but 18 guys have beat me to the punch

      • Big Mike

        Cody whitehair

  • beninnorcal

    Connor Cook anyone?

    • willbest

      I don’t want to jinx it, but at the moment we are going to have our choice of a position of need.

      • Big Mike

        Lots of choices. Von bell, tj Greene. Bullard

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          Or……none of the above

  • Big Mike

    Mackenzie Alexander – CB, TJ Greene – FS, Jonathan Bullard -DT, Connor Cook – QB, Von Bell – SS,

    • willbest

      strike 1

      • Big Mike

        It’s ok. Only 1 more spot to go.

    • willbest

      If we drafted Cook, that obviously would not have been part of the original plan at all.

    • I do NOT want Von Bell, that’s for sure.

      • Big Mike

        ??? Why???

        • I saw his tape. To recap, he’s a lovie special.

          Not a thumper. Not a playmaker. Not a ballhawk.

          Just a JAG

          Way this draft is going, it’ll probably be him.

          • Big Mike

            Oh

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          He was mediocrity defined at safety. JAG.

  • We trade down again!

    J/k

    • Big Mike

      Bah

  • Big Mike

    Cody Whitehair

    • willbest

      To sit on our bench? or are we giving up on Grasu and making Slausen Center?

      • Big Mike

        It’s the pick. Don’t know why

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        This is fucking stupid stupid stupid.

        • Big Mike

          Either that or we just don’t know WTF, we (the blog commenters) don’t know doo doo

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I know we have passed up nearly a round and a half of the top shelf talent to take a guard.

          • EnderWiggin

            Weird. Especially when we have two awesome guards.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Pretty much my thoughts exactly.

          • willbest

            Slausen won’t be around after 2017, but that is a long Fing time.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            No bro, we had 4, do you guys not remember Ted Fucking Larsen and Manny Ramirez????

          • EnderWiggin

            Weirder.

  • Shady

    Thanks for spoiling it Mike. Well, Jefe should be one happy guy.

    • Big Mike

      Interesting choice

    • willbest

      he is on twitter

      • Big Mike

        It popped up. Is that not allowed. I’ll shoosh.

    • Jesus, we wait 3 hours, then Mike spoils it 1 min before.

      • Big Mike

        I did not know that was a thing. Apologies. Shoot. I’m sorry

  • burntorangenavyblue
    • burntorangenavyblue

      My thoughts on Bears draft so far, or lackof thereof

  • Shady

    And Jeff put his Whitehair column back up.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Speechless.

  • Captain Obvious

    White guy pick!

    • willbest

      Its how the Hawks do it!

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Only with talented guys!

      • Doc Nitty

        Nailed it.

  • DaMurph

    Yep. thats what we needed, another guard.

  • This absolutely means we wanted Spriggs at OT

  • willbest

    See I would have been okay with the Colt’s pick. Though not if I was a Colts fan. If I was a Colts fan I would be pissed at the Bears for taking Whitehair when I would have wanted him to protect Luck.

  • Captain Obvious

    Just all you guys wait until the Bears run their 3-guard heavy O-line set with Unrein at FB. THEN we’ll gain 3 yards the hard way!

  • DaMurph

    Why not LaRaven? We coulda used a tackle

  • Big Mike

    That’s an odd choice. OG was not a thing. Might be our strongest group. I’m puzzled

    • willbest

      He played LT, do they think he could possibly do that in the NFL?

      • Big Mike

        He was listed in the draft as a guard

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Slow, short. He’s a guard in the NFL.

        • Captain Obvious

          Slow? He had one of the fastest 3-cone times among O linemen. Short? he’s 6’4″

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I’m pissy and on my phone, drop it.

          • Big Mike

            Is this a move to send Long to LT?

      • Big Mike

        Not for one snap

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Cutler is gonna piggy back ride em

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I laughed so hard I’m crying at that visual

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Someone needs to do a welfare check on Ryan Pace. I’m presuming a stroke.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Angelo and Emery must have murdered him and are calling the shots?

    • Trac

      This pick makes me feel like a June bug in April.

  • Captain Obvious

    Whitehair might be a center, might be a guard, might be a tackle:

    “With his combination of functional strength and body control, Whitehair might be one of the safest offensive linemen in the entire draft. He will almost assuredly be bumped inside to guard, but could be considered at center as well. He has the confidence and talent to start right away and his run blocking should improve as he gets more comfortable firing out from a three-Β­point stance. Whitehair has the ability to be a very good starter with a ceiling that could reach the all-pro level.”

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      yeaaasssssssh.

  • There’s my kicker!

    • willbest

      wtf is that?

      • I told you guys that kicker was gonna go in the 3rd.

        And ppl laughed at me.

        He went in the 2nd!

        • EnderWiggin

          I chuckled.

        • willbest

          Is he 100% from 60 yards? How do you justify it otherwise.

  • willbest

    Bucs were hacked

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Bears fans were hacked to the 4th dimension

    • Big Mike

      That’s funny

  • Captain Obvious

    Lovie gone went and got stupid. A kicker in the SECOND ROUND? Jesus Tittyfucking Christ. Maybe Concussion Conte is now their GM?

    • except lovie ‘s gone.

      • Captain Obvious

        “Ghost” came out “gone”. Sorry. Bad fingers.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          sure thats the Obvious answer

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Are they short?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Because if they are, we have an opening at DE.

      • EnderWiggin

        He’ll be handcrafting our 4th round white guys for next years draft.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Lovie??? Guys been at Illinois since beginning on the year.

    • Doc Nitty

      Captn Obvious went and got stupid!

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        what do you mean “went”?

  • I think in the next FF league I create for us, I’ll force everyone to only draft 4rth rounders.

    • Patriciapcruz3

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  • Big Mike

    Long to LT?

    • willbest

      One hopes not, but it is looking like it.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        SMGDH.

        • willbest

          I would rather not waste another bloody year of an all pro guard learning the ropes on a new position.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Exactly.

          • Big Mike

            Nobody is saying they like it. But we have 2 really good OGs 2 veteran backup OGs who started a combined 25+ games last year and now a 2nd round pick.

            So either long is going to LT, Slauson is getting traded/cut. Or Grasu is sitting

          • Captain Obvious

            Or Whitehair will be the league’s fattest TE

          • willbest

            Like that game Ice Hockey back in the 80’s. Fat guys, medium guys, skinny guys.

          • Grassu is def sitting.

            We have a lot invested in OG.

            Long, Slauson, Ramirez, and now a 2nd rounder. (and a 4rth if u count Grassu)

            If Whitehair plays OG while Slauson plays C, this could work

            I don’t think theyre gonna kick Long back out to OT unless Massie/Leno bomb

          • willbest

            But that is the problem if they are going to put Long at Tackle it needs to be now. Today. Not a week before the season starts.

          • Big Mike

            Very tough inside with quality depth. those 2 FA guards are going WTF?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Yeah, most likely,!!!!!

          • Big Mike

            A weird night. I thought these drafts were behind us. Maybe it is exposure to something in Halas Hall. Because at no time last year did I feel like this.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Rookie Guard with a weak upper body lined up next to a 7th round pick from Boise St. What could go wrong?

    • DaMurph

      Always been talk of that

      • Big Mike

        Well we have 6 guards now.

  • Doc Nitty

    New thread (ish)

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      I might boycott that fucking thing.

  • Shady

    Should have just drafted gas mask.

    • Ha! Iiterally lolz

    • Big Mike

      The nick name alone is nearly worth it

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Hack mask?

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Smoky Borderland?

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    If that column is the goddamn whitehair post, I’m just staying right here.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      It isn’t

      *looks away, whistling

    • Shady

      This draft is going to make your hair turn white.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Which hairs?

  • Captain Obvious

    Wow. Carolina takes the 19th-ranked CB in the 2nd round.

    • willbest

      Well that far down I think the teams are probably better judges than the pundit scouts. They are probably looking for specific things too.

      But at least this was a position of need for them. I don’t know what the DT in the first round was about.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Can we trade for him

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        probably get him for a 4th rounder

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Lmfao

  • Doc Nitty

    Lineman = Bueno.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Sorry Doc, Pace fucked up. He’ll never admit it.

      • Doc Nitty

        In the same way I refuse to get excited about people not name Zeke, I’m also not going to get upset.

        We. Don’t. Know. Shit.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          I know that fourth rounders fucking suck compared to first rounders. I know that when you play the trade back game you can move back too far. We moved back too far and teams jumped us for our guys.

          • Shady

            Whitehair was mocked by a LOT of people to go late 1st.

          • willbest

            So the theory is just too much value to pass up?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Except that we passed him twice on purpose!

          • Doc Nitty

            I’m certainly not claiming the contrary. On the contrary, my left eyebrow IS slightly elevated. I just know that I don’t know and will not know until I know….when I see it ….on Sundays

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            All he had to do was pick a fucking 1st round talent at a position of need at pick 42. It’s not hard.

          • Big Mike

            Except we don’t know what his draft board looked like

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Mike Jesus Christ

          • Big Mike

            Ok. I’m trying to be positive

          • Doc Nitty

            That’s Big Mike Jesus Christ.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            right now I am guessing its a bunch of names on a wall with a monkey throwing shit at it for the pick.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            That’s Angelo bullshit. We are the only fucking team playing games. Classic smartest man in the room mistakes.

  • Captain Obvious

    Nassib in the 3rd? He looks more like a 4-3 DE to me, though. Not too many prototype 3-4 DEs left.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Weird, how did THAT happen.

    • willbest

      Wow he is 6’7″ Only Oz could throw over him.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Nassib gone

  • Captain Obvious

    Fuck, nevermind. Factory of Sadness got him.

  • Captain Obvious

    If Braxton Miller makes it to the 4th, I’d take a flyer on him.

  • SC Dave

    Did we draft yet?

    • willbest

      Not well.

    • Doc Nitty

      I think Pace drafted Rabbits Pace-fan-club-retirement letter.

    • willbest

      3rd round picks coming in fast, should know Bears plans in a few minutes

  • willbest

    That is like the 11th CB off the board and we aren’t even to #70 yet

  • EnderWiggin

    NY took our safety. We are trading down.

    • Shady

      hahaha

      • EnderWiggin

        Man, our next best safety will be ther in the 4th.

        • willbest

          and he is white!

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Drink responsibly tonight gents

  • willbest

    At least this pick makes sense.

    • Trac

      ???

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Very curious how the conversation between Pace, Fox and co. is like in the war room.

    Seriously, some inkling would be nice because I drank more rum and coke than I have in a long while during this draft

    • Big Mike

      Please comment more as the night goes on. It will leave a record of your thought process as it deteriorates … Or maybe you come up with a gem!

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Hehe…

        Well, I really am interested in how that stuff plays out.

        I will take you guy’s word for it and avoid Draft Day as I heard that it’s an abomination

  • Shady

    My guy!

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Vadgers DEAD!

    Actually no clue, haha

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Did everyone pass out in a drinking coma?

  • burntorangenavyblue

    SERENITY NOW!!!!!

  • willbest

    new thread for real

    • burntorangenavyblue

      SERENITY NOW!!!!!

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