• antityco

    I’m OK with it, but would rather see a defensive lineman.

  • MB30SD

    If the # and 2 DL are off the board, I’m all in.

    • Big Mike

      Pretty good bet they will be.

  • And to recap

    “”That is a dude, right there. He was busting up Ohio State in the fourth
    quarter of that game not because he was more talented than those guys
    but because he just wanted it more. He’s tougher than old beef jerky. He
    fits in our division.” — ­ NFC North scout (Bears scout?)

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jack-conklin?id=2555279

    He doesn’t have elite feet. However, if Conk did, he would be long gone by #11.

    That is why he projects more as a RT. But, he has massive experience at LT, and to dispel the whitey stereotype, he has 35inch arms and 10inch paws on top of being 6’6 and 308 pounds.

    I think he makes a lot of sense considering how unproven BOTH Leno and Massie are.

    Naturally, I would prefer an equal talent at DE, but are we wiling to take Ogbah, Dodd over Conk, a DT like Ashwan, Rankins or CB like WJ3?

    They all seem riskier.

    Heck, even Myles Jack is beginning to worry me. Reports are swirling about ‘micro-fracture” surgery in , and if u add that he’s a bit undersized and coming off an inj, red flags are raised.

    • Ribeyes for Operators

      How much Jack?

      Miles. Miles O’ jack.

    • Big Mike

      I was enamored with Myles Jack. Thought he could be a premier strong safety. But the injury flag, forget about it.

  • Ribeyes for Operators
    • Trac

      We live in a country where the ex speaker of the House of Representatives got a 15 month slap on the hand sentence for being a serial child molester. How can anyone take this govt. seriously any more? Who else are they using the national security umbrella to protect? I will never vote….. forever.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Pretty sickening stuff.

      • Big Mike

        But, Hillary had a few emails on her server that were classified. We must explore this to the cost of millions of dollars.

        • willbest

          I care more that she sells influence through her Clinton Foundations to foreign governments than I do about her letting the Russians read her classified e-mail.

          • Big Mike

            Foreign governments buy influence all day long anywhere they can get it. Clinton’s deal just speaks to the general level of oooze that surrounds the White House and Congress. I’m not a big fan of any of these asshats, or the entire 3 year election cycle. My opinion is that there should be a 6 month election cycle, with a hard cap. So hard that if you are caught violating the rules you are OUT. no soft spending, no pacs, not even a fucking ticket to a baseball game.

            The cap should be set at $25 million per candidate. If you can’t get your message out on that budget, you are an idiot. Each candidate gets to make a prime time speech. There will be 2 debates. If you interrupt, your microphone gets shut off. If you don’t answer the question, you forfeit 1/2 hour time.

            The end.

          • Irish Sweetness

            A fixed amount of TV airtime for ads. The amount of money spent on these charades is nothing short of disgusting when there are families who can’t put food on the table.

          • willbest

            In each election cycle the US either spends directly, controls indirectly, or asserts influence over $150 trillion dollars worth of global economic activity. The $4-5 billion dollars spent each election cycle on this, is impressively small when you think about it.

            Plus, it does employ people, and pays for a chunk of the content the banksters use to placate the masses with between elections.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That makes it sound like it’s okay to spend five BILLION dollars on an election.

            1. There are TWO parties. (This in itself is a joke, but it should make an election a lot simpler)

            2. There are a VERY small number of realistic candidates going in, with really only ONE possible for each side.

            Before this all started, I picked Hills and Chump to win their party’s nomination, and I see no reason to change. The outsiders never have a chance.

            It’s a horrible, terrible choice to have to make. But should it really cost 5 billion dollars to choose Hilary or Drumpf ? That’s what the web is for, and people with no web access can be given it in doses.

            The whole thing is a dog and pony show anyway, as Bush’s ‘victory’ over Al Gore showed. The smoking man picks the winner before it all starts, and like Bill Hicks said, as soon as they win, they’re shown into a darkened room where the Zapruder film is played for them. It finishes with Jack’s brains all over Jackie’s coat.
            “Any questions”

          • Captain Obvious

            The global GDP is about $74 trillion. You’re saying the US spends, controls, or exerts influence over half the world’s economy?

            I guess if you call participating in the WTO “exerts influence”, maybe.

          • willbest

            Remember that it is the global reserve currency, and a lot of currencies are pegged in some manner to the dollar. There is our imposition of US banking laws on any banks wanting to do business with the US, in addition to the WTO and other international bodies which take their lead from the US. Plus then there is our policing the oceans, and vast military footprint.

          • willbest

            If you want to take money out of politics, take the politics out of money. Its as simple as that.

            And I understand that you are capable of listening to people, weighing the merits of their ideas, and owing to your unique position of managing others might even be better suited to judge character, but the fact of the matter is most people don’t do that nor do they want to.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Or, like in Thailand, you take the politics out of politics and just send in the troops.

            Remember, the bigger you make that military, it’s just a matter of time. Eisenhower saw that 55 years ago! 25 Trillion dollars later……

          • willbest
          • Irish Sweetness

            WTF???

          • willbest

            In some GOP wetdreams the GOP convention would devolve into a mess after Trump fails to get a majority and out of the ashes would rise Mattis.

            http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/08/the-secret-movement-to-draft-general-james-mattis-for-president.html

            Which is funny because it is an actualization of the parody from the duffelblog from a few years prior.

          • Cormonster

            Bingo on the first sentence.

      • Irish Sweetness

        It just encourages them Trac! It’s about the only tool that citizens have left to protest with. Don’t vote. If nobody votes ….

    • Sactowns#1

      Holly crap… ” I continue to travel this country and fight for those Americans who refuse to settle for the way things are and a status quo that no longer works for them.”
      That’s from a REPUBLICAN. You know things are bad when the right starts calling for progress.

  • So, what I’m really curious about are the 2nd round safeties. I think we’re drafting a S in the first 3 rounds.

    Like I mentioned b4, Mayock’s guess on QBs is about as good as yours or mine, but he’s a pretty savvy secondary elevator.

    This is how he ranks them.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000656285/article/mike-mayocks-2016-nfl-draft-position-rankings-50

    1 Karl Joseph
    2 Von Bell, Ohio State
    3 Keanu Neal, Florida
    4 KeiVarae Russell, Notre Dame
    5 Sean Davis, Maryland

    Anyone got the skinny on any of them?

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Joseph is a beast, might not get past the first round even with a rehabbed knee though.
      I would take him in the second or a trade-up into the low first in a heartbeat.

      • Big Mike

        You really like Von Bell over Joseph, straight up. With the knee injury, I wouldn’t risk the 41st pick. Either is an upgrade and would likely start by week 3 or 4.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Really??? What makes you want Bell over Joseph? Level of competition?

        • Joseph is on another tier, Mike. Only question with him is the inj, but from most accounts, he’ll be fine.

          • Big Mike

            He plays reckless and won’t last very long in the NFL. Undersized big hitting DBs are trouble. Doesn’t translate. Coverage skills are good not great. From my limited insight, Von Bell looks like his weaknesses are correctable, which translates to more upside. If we took either with the 2nd pick I’d be very happy.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Same size as Polamalu and that dude played for 12 years.

          • Big Mike

            Good point. But Polamalu was a rarity. Like he wasn’t human.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I get the same impression watching Joseph. His injury was a goofy knee thing that happened in practice. No indications prior to that of durability concerns.
            Would certainly take him over Bell, who he outweighs by 10+ lbs.

          • Big Mike

            But Bell’s more of a cover guy. Don’t we need a FS type?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            When I watch the games, Joseph looks like the better coverage guy – and he hits like a f-cking truck. Bell just kind of looked like a clean-up tackler, always getting there sort of in time to help.

          • Big Mike

            Well, I’m not an expert on DBs. So I’m getting a lot from this discussion. Let me say this. It sure would be spectacular to draft a safety that can team with Amos for the next 10 year.

          • Big Mike

            also.. I don’t know. Safeties to me were like bees buzzing around that I
            could never catch to hit. But when I did hit one, they usually died.

          • That’s what the scouting report says, but I saw him get burned deep in the Maryland game, then he totally get’s fooled by misdirection, arrives late, takes poor angles going after HB, drags down instead of thumps.

            Was just one game, but Maryland is not exactly Oregon offense.

            Still contend Bell would be better suited in a 4-3 where his eyes are in the backfield so he doesn’t have to do as much and his speed doesn’t get tested.

          • Big Mike

            I don’t know. Safeties to me were like bees buzzing around that I could never catch to hit. But when I did hit one, they usually died.

          • MB30SD

            You had the wrong guys… I gave our starting tackle a concussion when he tried to run me over. Douche

          • Big Mike

            Played 1AA. Never got hit by any DB that ever wiped me out, except one time on special teams. Totally on me. Guy gets props. I’ve heard you were a load. Would have been fun. I played at 6’3″ 290 and I ran a 5.0 forty (I like to say 4.99). Played LB in HS, I was pretty good at it, but not fast enough to play in college, so i red-shirted bulked up, switched to OG and had a blast. Getting to the 3rd level on a DB was .. man it was better than sex because it happened less often. One time, took a DB on a ride, he couldn’t get disengaged because of the angles and I blocked him for 15 yards. I was 30-40 yards downfield and I was gassed. The next play called for a backside pull. I barely nicked my guy, I had to dive at his feet. No juice left. Ah glory days.

          • MB30SD

            Hahahahhaa…. awesome.

            Yup, glory days. You were a fucking load, jesus. I was 5’10” (in cleats) and about 205, ran a 4.64ish. Slow but I was basically only a LOS SS. They took my short slow ass out on obvious pass plays

          • Big Mike

            Hence the moniker Big Mike. Been called that since I was 10, when my buddy was also named Mike. He was Mike, I was Big Mike. I was only slightly bigger at the time, but it stuck. Sounds like you got by on nasty. 20 more lbs and 2 inches taller, right? I was indeed a load. In the early part of the season, before all your shit gets beat up, or some part isn’t 100%, when I got around the edge on a pull, there wasn’t a whole lot the first defender up could do. The game was to expend as little as possible on that guy and get another one. The best OGs are patient and don’t look for the kill shot on a play like that. Just need to nudge guys out of the way a bit to make room. Try and crush someone you’ll eat dirt.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Do we not like Adrian Amos? Harold Jones-Quartey could turn out to be a solid SS, and Rolle’s a backup just in case …

          • Big Mike

            We do. But he needs a partner and Jones-Quartey isn’t a starter.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Two 22 year olds as your starting safeties is a bit worrying.

          • Big Mike

            better than alfalfa and hash tag and some of the other combos we’ve had. Probably the guy they draft doesn’t start. Rolle lines up until he breaks.

          • I was gonna mention that. Jospeh’s inj didn’t come from contact.

            I’d much rather take a chance on a stud like Joseph than a Lovie special like Bell.

          • MB30SD

            NO LOVIE SPECIALS!!!!!

          • Draft Day Tshirts with a big ghost-busters logo where Angelo is the ghost.

            And on the back

            “We stand on the clean edge…”

          • Irish Sweetness

            Jumping over offensive lines to make tackles … and you think … why doesn’t EVERYONE do that?

      • Joseph for sure, but like u said, he’s not getting out of the late 1st

    • So, here’s Von Bell.

      http://draftbreakdown.com/video/vonn-bell-vs-maryland-2015/

      Butch’s take. Seems like a JAG. More a SS than FS (which we need). Stiff hips, and poor recognition. Can deliver some punch, but seems late (due to poor recognition).
      Doesn’t seem like a ball hawk (which requires anticipation, good hands, and instincts).
      Functional speed, but no blazer and no spring.

      More of a 4-3 cover 2 SS, IMO.

      Sum. He doesn’t seem better than Amos. Amos’ college tape impressed me. This guy doesn’t. Pass

    • Irish Sweetness

      Why is Su’a Cravens not listed as a safety? He played safety, he’s too small really to play NFL LB.

  • willbest

    I have no Lee that I am in love with. This is an acceptable pick to me though.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Bruce, always Bruce …..
      ..oh, and Angela …..

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Meh. Not blown away by it, so it’s probably what’s going to happen.

    • willbest

      Other than trading back to 17 picking up another 2nd rounder, drafting Lee and then trading back up into the 1st to pick up Jones what would blow you away?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Trading back up into the 1st to get Karl Joseph.
        A defensive stud like Jack, Ramsey….hell, Tunsil if he is there.
        Those would be impressive additions. I think Conklin will be an upgrade at RT based on the games I watched. Don’t get me wrong. But the defensive side of the ball is where we’ve been historically bad the last couple of years, and I cannot fathom sitting pat on it this draft.

        • Irish Sweetness

          We’re paying Bobby Massie $6M a year to play RT ….

        • Big Mike

          I like trying to get back into the first round. Hadn’t thought of that option. Well done. Combined with Kevin White coming to play the Bears would have 3 first rounders going into 2016. 7,11 and to keep it lucky the 21st pick. Give up the 2nd and the extra 3rd? Too rich, or not enough?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I think it would fill out the D side of the ball pretty nicely for the next couple of years at least. Yeah, I think that’s about right but I don’t have the chart up and I gotta go see Sesame Street Live…lol.

          • willbest

            We have plenty of picks and a rather high 2nd round pick that moving back into the first wouldn’t be expensive.

          • I would def look into trading up for Joseph.
            Really impressed by him. More than last year’s class.

            I would say something like a our 2nd and a 4rth and maybe conditional.

            We have two fourths now thanks to Bennett trade, and like five 5ths.

            So really, it would only cost us our 2nd to get a game changing S which we haven’t had since MB.

          • MB30SD

            You’re welcome

          • Big Mike

            That is intriguing…

  • Big Mike

    Here’s food for thought that says the Bears MUST take Ezekiel Elliot if he’s available
    http://sportsmockery.com/2016/04/pro-football-focus-blows-holes-theory-jeremy-langford-good/

    • willbest

      MUST?

      • Big Mike

        The implication is that Langford isn’t any good.

        • willbest

          I guess they said from base defense, but I have to believe that a lot of that has to do with the uninspired play calling, the beat up offensive line, and the ability for the secondary to cheat on coverage of the practice squad receivers.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            And his YPC jumped .5 once he got over 10 carries.
            We will see. I’m not willing to waste a top 10 pick on a RB to find out.
            Shit, Forte was a second rounder from a second tier program and we got a heckuva career out of him.

          • Big Mike

            Just putting the information out there. You wouldn’t hate having Elliott. Might not be the biggest need, but he’s a stud. Personally, I think Langsford and Carey are a nice backfield.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Nice, but not great. If Zeke is ther he’s an easy pick, and you have a great backfield. One less thing to worry about, and great to put behind your ‘new’ line.

          • The Panthers used their cap space on 3 rbs (Williams, Stewart, Bowling Ball) a few years back and even in a weak division they SUCKED.

            They stuck to ONE main RB last year, and made the SB.

            Those who do not learn from history…

          • willbest

            Well Newton was their other back and he isn’t human until one day when he body goes RGIII on him.

          • Newton was still running when they had those 3 backs.

            We’re gonna have to pay Zeke and likely Langford.

            If Zeke pans out (which he prolly will), he’ll demand like $10-14M/yr.

            Then we’re like the Panthers of yore tieing up cap on RBs when it should go to Dline/Oline.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Nah, pay him what Gurley got. 4.5M a year, his 5 year contract’s up … let him bounce. You had his best years. Sayonara.

          • lol so just keep drafting top 10 HBs every 5 years?

          • Irish Sweetness

            If he’s there at 11, it’s kind of impossible not to draft him, or trade your pick to somebody who thinks he’s Jesus.

          • Irish Sweetness

            They got pantsed in the SB though. After Prince left the stage at half-time in SB 41, the same thing happened to us.

            So maybe throwing that pick at somebody on D who’ll make some plays on D is a necessity. Did we have a playmaker last year?

          • Big Mike

            It’s a factor to be sure, but every stat listed he was in the bottom 10. I like Langsford, don’t get me wrong. I was just putting this info out there.

          • SC Dave

            That is the Langford I saw. But we have no choice but to trust Pox regardless.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We had the 5th rated OL, can’t blame that. Matty was putting up a higher average at the same time.

          • willbest

            See I have heard a lot of things about our OL, like how it was the worst in the NFCN by somebody’s analysis. But its also a question of what each person was asked to do with the ball.

            As I said, and this is the reason why I said I don’t see the value in Elliot. Langford is going to get his carries next year, because Pace drafted him and Fox likes his committees.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I have a feeling he’ll bolster that committee with Howard, and we will get a defensive player at 11. They probably have already committed to it being a defensive pick unless Tunsil fell to 11 for some reason. A statement to Chicago fans if you will.

            I like all of our bcks, and Jaquizz was out injured, he was meant to be the pass-catcher after all. Langford sure is slippery when he catches those screens though. Maybe that’s his forte. Ahem. Leave Perry and Carey to bounce it. Jocksqueeze and Langford to catch it. Howard comes in behind Unrein for the inches.

          • SC Dave

            You liked all the backs except the best one we’ve had in decades.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Not true. Didn’t want want to pay him 8M though …

        • MB30SD

          All of this talk is bullshit.

          Simple eye test… Dude was kind of money in the shirt period he had to show himself.

          My projection… he breaks the fuck out this year. Boom.

          • Big Mike

            The more he got the ball, the better he was. I don’t disagree. I wouldn’t hate take Elliot. I would think it was a missed opportunity to get better where we need it more. But if Elliot turns into a pro-bowl running back, ok.

            I’m more in line with thinking he breaks out. Better WRs, one that can stretch the field and makes safeties poop their pants. They won’t be playing 4 feet behind the LBs, because our #2 WR that day was 6th on our depth chart at the start of the year.

          • MB30SD

            Bingo

            And he looked fast, explosive, elusive and that catch down the sideline in SD was fucking so money!

    • Irish Sweetness

      This. Langford is part of a roster of backs, he’s not The Guy.

  • Shady

    Never thought I’d say this, but…

    Where the fuck is Trac?

    • Shady

      Nevermind.

      • At a Trump rally, my guess.

        • MB30SD

          He’s here.

          Come out come out, wherever you are trac my maingses

        • DaMurph

          Nope youre wrong.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      II
      II
      V

  • Irish Sweetness

    The world and his mother mocked Floyd to us … Zeke will be gone … I think we draft Hargreaves at 11.

    Jihad in the second. Howard in the third.

    And here’s another good reason not to be out and about after two in the morning following on from the last thread.

    Kicks off proper at about 1:30 with the old dear getting decked.

    • Damn. One punch jack.
      U want some. Bam. U want some too? Bam.
      U 65 year old women? no care. Bam.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Fkn cowards, eh? Can you imagine someone laid out your mom like that?

        • I would rip their hearts out.

          • Irish Sweetness

            You wouldn’t want to do time, but it becomes a possibility at that point. That’s thumbs through the eye sockets right there.

  • Irish Sweetness

    3.40 in the morning. I’m totally going to bed.

    Just one more thing. AJ signed his tender right? So unlike Mo Wlkerson, he could be traded tomorrow, just sayin ….

  • Irish Sweetness

    Maybe one more thing :

    DaBearsBlog ‎@dabearsblog

    Teased it earlier. Without further adieu the Official Guess of the Bears First Round Pick. http://dabearsblog.com/2016/the-official-first-round-guess-of-dbb

    That’s not all you’re teasing Jefe ….

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    You use the 11th pick on this kind of running back. This running back is called “generational”:

    Haha, give me a fucking break that Zeke Elliot is this caliber.

    • willbest

      He might be the last RB to make the HoF at the rate the game is evolving.

      • MB30SD

        Whoa whoa whoooaaaaa!!!

        • willbest

          Who currently playing, outside of AP, is going to get in?

          • MB30SD

            I was just sayin, let’s not anoint him juuust yet.

  • Shady

    Interesting NFL draft nuggets from the WSJ:

    According to a study last year by Wichita St. Eco. professors found that when a team trades up to draft a specific prospect, that player performs better on avg than a player selected by a team that retained TD draft pick- by 7.7% based on their metrics. TIFWIW

    Since 1990, of the 185 first round picks aged 21 or younger, 45.9% have gone on to make a pro bowl. By comparison, only 40.3% of 22 year olds became pro owlets, while just 29.9% of prospects aged 23 or older did so. Example player to target? 20 year old Laquon Treadwell. Example player not to target? Georgia’s Leonard Floyd who will be 24 by the time he takes his 1st snap.

    -Follow recruiting rankings
    -Don’t overlook small schools
    -Pass on late round QBs

    The Tom Brady effect. More QBs are taken in the 6th and 7th rounds than any time outside round 1. Since 1990, only 10 of 175 QBs (5.7%) taken in rounds 4-7 have made a pro bowl. The value of hunting for QBs seems to crater after the 3rd round.

    Rounds 1 (30.6%), 2 (24%) and 3 (16.7%) have produced a fairly strong crop of Pro Bowl players, but that rate drops dramatically in rounds 4 & 5 to 2.3% and 2.9%, respectively.

    • willbest

      What is the percentage of none QB 4-7 rounders that make the pro-bowl.

      Not to put to fine a point on it but with 800ish first rounders, and a sample size of 185, you are talking about a MoE around 6%, which is to say there is no statistical significance between 20 & 21 year olds vs 22 and 23 year olds, but there is a difference between those guys and the 24 & over crowd.

      • Shady

        Tried to find the article to WSJ online, but I believe you need a paid subscription to access it.

        • willbest

          bastages. Lexis-Nexis or somebody needs to come up with a netflix for newspaper articles. I don’t have a problem paying for content, I just have zero interest in having two dozen subscriptions even if I could afford them all.

          Something like $10/mo for news that is 7 to 180 days old or something

          • Shady

            I like your idea and would like to subscribe to your newsletter, but I’m not paying $10/mo for it.

  • Ribeyes for Operators
  • Sactowns#1

    “irish” Jack Conklin getting lots of love on DBB lately. Hmm interesting.

  • Shady

    Curious how many regs signed up for the picks contest. Hope one of you guys win and none some rand-o.

    • MB30SD

      Meeeeh.

      • Sactowns#1

        I didn’t even figure out how to sign up. I saw the instructions were to follow whoever on twitter and send them a msg. however, you cant send them a msg unless THEY follow you. So yeah…

        • MB30SD

          Don’t try to woo me back now. Jerk!

        • yeah, i thought u had to follow, then msg, but then it said to sigh up for something else.

          I follwed them, but, I’m not signing up for anything.

    • DaMurph

      I pass on the dbb contests too.

      • Shady

        I’m pretty sure I won the first blog contest which basically amounted to GP selecting a blogger to get the tickets. (Thanks again GP)

  • Ribeyes for Operators

    Did anyone read that Tiger ESPN article and come away thinking Michael Jordan is the worst fucking “best friend” a guy could have?

    Jesus Mike, throw him a little farther under the bus. Make sure he hits hit by both sets of tires.

    • willbest

      Jordan, the person, is not a great man. Its hard to blame somebody that famous considering he has spent the last 40 years of all kinds of people wanting stuff from him all the time, but its never fun to learn about it.

      • This is the same Jordan that doesn’t tip at casinos cuz he thinks the waitresses should come HIM for bringing in more biz.

        Sinatra would be rolling in his grave.

        • Irish Sweetness

          … and would be banging the waitress in that grave.

    • Sactowns#1

      I came away thinking he wasn’t a friend at all. Just one of those regular acquaintances that any of us would readily talk shit about to one of our real friends.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Came away thinking that a golfer worth hundreds of millions of dollars wouldn’t pick up the tab for a bunch of guys helping him live out his SEAL fantasies? What a tool. Tiger Woods is a gigantic tool.

    • Irish Sweetness

      If he wants to be friends with a tool like Tiger, I guess that makes him a tool by proxy.

  • Not quite as aweful as the predictalator, but close (though I hope it’s true cuz we’d have xmas in the 2nd too)

    “In PFT’s simulated draft, the Rams take Cal’s Jared Goff, the Eagles take North Dakota State’s Carson Wentz, the 49ers take Memphis’s Paxton Lynch, the Cardinals take Penn state’s Christian Hackenberg and the Broncos take Michigan State’s Connor Cook.”

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/27/this-years-first-round-could-see-five-quarterbacks-drafted/

  • Dang, Jaylon and Jack?

    UCLA LB Myles Jack admitted he’s not sure if he’ll need microfracture surgery at some point.

    Speaking about his degenerative knee condition, Jack said, “It’s nothing extreme. Down the line, possibly, I could have microfracture surgery—potentially. Who knows what will happen?” Jack
    added that “to play three years in this league would be above average.” That’s obviously not what NFL front offices want to hear. Teams don’t draft players in the top 10 hoping they’ll play three years. Jack may have more natural talent than any player in this draft, but his health remains a huge question mark. Comments like these aren’t going to put teams at ease.” – Roto

    • Shady

      Great, all the teams rebuilding for the future are going to pass so he’ll end up on the Steelers, Seahawks, or Packers.

      • I don’t want to see Jack on the Pack (oh, even rhymes) or Conk on the Lions.

        Vikings, who gives a shit.

    • SC Dave

      On fire tonight… wtg Butch

  • If we want a big back who also returns, maybe a 6th for Kniles Davis isn’t shabby. Anyone else in the draft 230 and ran a 4.37 40? They cite his 3.3, but every time I saw him, he was bruising.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/knile-davis?id=2540178

    Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports reports the Chiefs are shopping RB/KR Knile Davis.

    Jamaal Charles is still the Chiefs’ workhorse while Charcandrick West and Spencer Ware agreed to extensions this offseason, leaving Davis as the odd man out. Davis has underwhelmed in his first
    three seasons, averaging a mere 3.3 yards per carry on 232 career rushing attempts. He’s fared better as a return specialist, finishing 10th in kick return average last season (25.1 yards per attempt). The Dolphins reportedly showed interest in an unnamed Chiefs running back last month. We’re guessing those talks were centered around Davis. – Roto

    • Shady

      For a 6th? Mayyybe. I just think you like him because of fantasy.

      • If I were to say there’s a 230 HB who ran a 4.37 and avg 25yds on KR available in the 6th, I think we would all jump on it.

        I don’t know how a 230/4.37 HB can’t get 1-2 yds which is all we would need on short yd downs (plus, god knows, our return game needs help).

        It’s like that old saying, “You need 1 yd coach? I can get you 3. You need 5 yds coach? I can get you 3”

        • SC Dave

          THIS

        • willbest

          Well in the before times the D-line was 2 yards behind the LOS 1/4th of a second after the snap, which made it pretty hard for the back to get 2 yards.

    • SC Dave

      230 pound KR!?! Yikes! I say sign him

      • you can just mute it, but he’s pretty impressive. Also, he’s got some tread on the tire cuz he played behind Jamaal Charles most of his career.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Love me some Davis.

  • Rapsheet just reported that the Browns #8 are getting calls for Zeke from MIA, CHI, and other teams.

    Keep in mind Zeke played for Ohio St.

    Tell u this much, if Pace is dope-a-roping MIA to trade up, he should win an Academy Award.

    • Shady

      What would that cost to move to 8? 3rd and a 4th? I don’t see it happnin’

      • I don’t have the chart handy, but I’d guess a 3rd for us a lil more from the Fins.

        • Shady

          Maybe a 4th this year and a 4th next year… To draft a RB? I love Zeke but again I don’t see it happening.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’d be cool with us drafting Zeke … but moving UP for him? Nah.
            If Jalen Ramsay is there at 8, maybe you pull the trigger on moving up.

      • willbest

        From 11 to 8 is worth ~150 points, which is roughly a mid 3rd round pick. Miami at 13 would need to pony up roughly 250 points which is a high round 3.

        The Bears have 2 high 3rd round picks, so we would likely either overpay to move up or get a 6th coming back to us.

    • willbest

      Bad enough to consider drafting Zeke at 11, if we move up to #8… I better be able to say his name in the same breath as AP and LT by the end of the year.

      • MB30SD

        Exactly.

        Fuq dat sheite muslim

    • willbest

      Just as an aside that doesn’t even smell right. You would never make a predraft trade based on targeting a player unless you were guaranteed to get it.

      So at best Pace has feelers to move to the #8 spot. But he sure as hell wouldn’t tell anybody, even the person he was trading with, who he was targeting, unless it were a condition to make the trade happen.

    • Shady

      Apparently part of what is driving this Bears/Zeke rumor is the fact the Fox’s running back coach is Stan Drayon who also happens to be Zeke’s former RB coach at Ohio State.

      http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Elliott-credits-his-success-to-Drayton/e92bc0ac-4605-42f2-8b9e-95ab3031600d

      “Ezekiel Elliott conceded that he likely wouldn’t be considered the top running back in this year’s NFL Draft if not for the tough love he received from Stan Drayton.

      Before becoming Bears running backs coach in 2015, Drayton served in the same role at Ohio State from 2011-14, including Elliott’s first two years in the program.

      ‘Stan Drayton, that’s my guy,’ Elliott said last week at the NFL Combine. ‘He was hard on me since I got on campus. He’s really the biggest reason why I’m here today, why I’m the back I am today.’

      ‘If I went to Chicago and played for Stan Drayton, I know he would be a guy who would stay on my case,’ Elliott said. ‘He would never let me get content. He’d always push me. That’s what he was for me at Ohio State. It would be nice to reunite with him.'”

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        Won’t happen. Killer D baby.

        • MB30SD

          Dis

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Chicago moving up to 8 for a RB would result in Pace being dead by breakfast

          • MB30SD

            Make it so!

  • Trac

    Washington Redbacks? Works for me. Hee hee

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-36136635

    • Shady

      How you doing Tractor baby?

      • MB30SD

        You are so sweet and caring when you want to be. ♡♡♡

        • Shady

          OK I just clicked the link and it’s a story about a guy in Australia who got bit on da dick by a Redneck spider. Are you kidding? This is exactly why traveling to Australia terrifies me, because you can get bit on the dick by a fucking redback spider.

          • Dingo on dingo crime?

          • Shady

            Points.

          • Irish Sweetness

            There’s literally a hundred different types of creature that can kill you stone dead in that place. and the sea is not designed for humans top enter int hat part of the world. Snakes, sharks, and lethal jellyfish. Fuck that.

      • Trac

        Just fine Shady, unveiling truths protective layers.

  • MB30SD

    Hey GP.

    Hubba hubba: https://youtu.be/OMDuugbdWfc

  • Irish Sweetness

    Cleveland are the ultimate clusterfuck. Trade down from the #2 spot? Score. Well done. Find yourself possibly in a position to draft the RB that you could build your offense around? Let’s trade out of it and make sure that doesn’t happen!

    Any source on Chicago being in that convo?

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-path-to-the-draft/0ap3000000656516/Draft-War-Room-Mock-Draft-picks-1-10

    Baldinger (WAS A PRE-MED STUDENT???) and some dude … have Bosa dropping out of the top ten.

    • Bosa, IMO, is not a blue-chip player.

      He’s an Alex Brown/Onguleye type 4-3 DE imo.

      That’s just talent wise, not even taking into account his douchey attitude or “drug/party” rumors.

      I could envision him falling out of the top 10, for sure. I don’t believe these talks about him going top 5, but Dallas might be so desperate for a DE, they just might.

      • MB30SD

        It would be just like the chargers to take him instead of buckner.

        … and very bears over the last 10 years.

        BUT NO MORE!

    • willbest

      Bear in mind that Cleveland was ground zero for the Trent Richardson effect.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        My thought exactly on that one.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Ohio State!

  • Irish Sweetness

    A lot of people have Hargreaves going in the top 10, so I’m nailing my Bears picks to the wall.

    1. Leonard Floyd.
    2. Jihad Ward.
    3. Jordan Howard.

    Jefe’s Conklin pick goes to the Giants.

    Sam Bradford is an ass.

    That is all.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Floyd seems to be the choice of many of the “Experts”.

  • willbest

    ~ 21 hours until the Bears are on the clock.

    • MB30SD

      MAAAAN CHRISTMAAAAAS!!!

      • MB30SD

        Wow I just realized that our Santa is fucking rodger goodell.

        That was sobering. Guess it helps that I’m jewish.

        • willbest

          Considering how unrelated Santa is to the whole birth of Jesus, I never really understood why Jews couldn’t just enjoy Consumption Day with Christians like the secularists do.

          • MB30SD

            I do. I’ve always had a schiksa girlfriend or wife. I love consumption eve/night/day.

            Btw, you know jesus was a good jewish boy right?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Is it 8 P.m. When the clock starts? 7 a.m. NY time?

      • willbest

        8pm eastern. 7pm in Chicago. so roughly 20 hours until the start, and then 5 minutes per for first round so another 50 minutes until the bears are on the clock.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Arrive at work. Check. Man Christmas begins. Check.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Yup. Prince had AIDS.

    • willbest

      Didn’t the autopsy say pain killer OD? Incidentally, if he was taking pain killers I don’t know why he wouldn’t take the hiv meds.

      • Irish Sweetness

        An autopsy report probably won’t appear for a week or two. But, exactly … Jehovah’s witness, right? I’ll take these meds but not those ones….

        • willbest

          A JW is unlikely to contract HIV in the first place, but then I suppose he didn’t convert until early 2000s and the article I read is he contracted it in the 90s. Of course, no named sources so who knows.

  • AlbertInTucson

    If Jack falls to 11, which I doubt, I say grab him.

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