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The Great Kevin White Hope

| June 2nd, 2016

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All the public buzz about how good Kevin White looked at practice last week was quickly followed by spattering of buzz-kill designed to manage expectations. But, why? There are plenty of reasons to think White is going to have a big year for the Bears.

The big knock on White is that he’s raw because he played in a spread offense in college. Here’s a news flash: over half the teams in the league — including the Bears — run a high percentage of spread concepts. The Bears had 21% of their passes travel behind the line of scrimmage last year and Jay Cutler threw from the gun nearly 86% of the time. Bill Belichick reshaped his entire offense around what he learned from Urban Meyer and Chip Kelly. Even classic West Coast guys like Mike McCarthy have incorporated spread concepts. It’s a safe bet that most of the people saying White won’t make an early impact also said the same about Marcus Mariota.

This is the league now.

Rookie receivers used to struggle because there was a huge difference in the way the game was played in college and the NFL. That isn’t the case anymore. This isn’t Calvin Johnson playing most of his career in an option offense then having to learn Mike Martz’s scheme.

White admits that he has a lot to learn, but he’s more polished coming out than Demaryius Thomas – who only knew how to run straight in college – was. Thomas now catches over 90 passes for over 1,300 yards every year, even with inferior route-running. For the most part, the routes White ran in college are going to be the routes he’s going to run in the NFL.

The thought that players need to be able to run a “full route tree” is antiquated. 69 percent of the routes Alshon Jeffery ran last year were nine routes, curl routes or slants. You can expect pretty much the same with White, just with more screen passes thrown in there.

What White did best in college was attack on screen passes. When the ball came his way, he got to it and then made people miss. His speed made him a threat to score on any play. He was also tough in the red zone, given his size and ability to catch the ball in the air. Considering the high percentage of screen passes the Bears throw and the difficulties they had in the red zone last year, White seems likely to make a big impact in those two areas alone.

One thing I keep coming back to with White is that he was largely considered to be among the best prospects at his position in the last decade. He happened to be coming out with Amari Cooper, another elite prospect. Cooper and White were almost unanimously considered the best since A.J. Green and Julio Jones. Considering Green, Jones and Cooper all had immediate impacts, there’s little reason to think White won’t.

That’s the biggest thing to remember with White. He isn’t just a first-round pick. He was considered a truly elite prospect. Since 2006, he’s one of three receivers to be picked in the first round (important to note how high they were picked because of guys like Stephen Hill who couldn’t catch) who measured at least six-foot-two, 215 pounds and also ran a sub-4.4-second 40-yard dash. The others are Calvin Johnson, Thomas and Jones. Pretty good company.

Take it a step further and you see the receivers who have been picked in the top-10 since 2010 have mostly all been successful. The only exceptions are one guy who was a horrendous reach (Tavon Austin) and one guy who has been kicked out of the league, but was great before then (Justin Blackmon). The others (Green, Jones, Sammy Watkins, Mike Evans and Cooper) averaged around 1,000 yards as rookies and, you could argue, only Jones had anything close to the quarterback play White is going to have.

The thing that has made the biggest impression on me regarding White is the fact that the Bears aren’t saying anything to limit expectations. Typically, with any rookie, you hear talk about them having to learn. With any player coming off injury, there’s talk about easing them back in. With White, the talk has all been about how they can’t wait to “unleash him,” as Ryan Pace said.

What the Bears have in White is a player with immense physical talent and an incredible work ethic. Those guys tend to work out. One thing nearly every beat writer noted was that White was in Cutler’s ear throughout the practice sessions they were able to watch. Even when the team wasn’t practicing, they were inseparable. There’s a good chance that White will learn to run all of the routes he’ll be asked to run and, better yet, run them exactly how Cutler likes them run.  Even if he doesn’t, the Bears can scheme one-on-one opportunities for him and no defensive back in the league is going to like being matched up with a player of his size, speed and physicality. 

White isn’t a finished product. The best we see from him likely won’t come in his first year, but that’s OK. The Bears are going to put him in position to succeed and he’s going to take advantage of it immediately.

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  • Scharfinator

    FIRST

    • i’m proud of you and all you’ve accomplished.

      • Trac

        You’ll make a great mom someday.

        • MB30SD

          Hahahaha… good one

          • FQD1911

            my cousin told me there is an rjd2 show in October your way…will keep you posted, but that’s my GUY!!!! may have to check it out.

      • Scharfinator

        Awww <3

      • SC Dave

        I’ll definitely second that.

    • FQD1911

      good to see old school traditions are alive and well.

  • “White admits that he has a lot to learn, but he’s Demaryius Thomas”

    Indeed, Thomas is one of his closest comps based on physical measurables (size, speed), college production (only 1 big year in college), and draft status (1st round pick).

    I’ll be thrilled if White turns out to be Thomas. But here’s the thing…

    Thomas had 283 and 551 yards receiving in his first 2 NFL seasons. He didn’t show up and start having 1300 yard seasons right away.

    And it’s unlikely White will either.

    • unless he does. you ever think about that?

      • It’s possible. I didn’t say he won’t, I said it’s not likely he will. History says it’s more likely he will be around 600-800 yards than 1000+ this year.

        • but history doesn’t account for Dowell Loggains.

    • Everybody talks about rookie receivers making this huge impact now, but that 2014 draft class was a huge aberration, NOT the new norm. There has been no clear trend where highly drafted rookie WRs are consistently having a bigger impact right away. It was just 1 big year. No lead up before it, and it didn’t happen last year either.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I think that sentence is missing a “not”, otherwise the whole paragraph didn’t make sense. He’s saying DT only knew one route in college, but KW knew a lot more.

    • I’m not high on Thomas. Guy has a habit of disappearing when it matters most.

      But, White seems more like an Alpha than Demaryius.

      I also think White is faster and leaner.

      To me, White actually projects more like Julio Jones.

      A guy who can take a screen to the house and simply is uncoverable.

      (when he’s healthy).

      Bears boner full mast.

    • Andrew Dannehy

      Should’ve said he’s not Thomas as in he’s more polished. That has been cleared up. But, Thomas’ early stats are a bit deceiving. He came from an extremely raw passing offense into McDaniels. He suffered foot and achillies injuries and had Tebow for much of his first two seasons. You’d be hard-pressed to find anyone who didn’t know he was a stud his second season, but their QB couldn’t get him the ball.

    • SC Dave

      Only the gridiron will tell.

    • Artoo

      Who were the quarterbacks throwing to him those first two seasons?

    • Artoo

      Who was throwing Thomas the ball the first few years? Tebow? Lol

  • 505Bears

    Jake Long in the house today…backup or too far gone?

    • BC

      Add him to the 90, see what he’s got left in the tank.

    • Bender McLugh

      Dunno, is he healed up? I didn’t see anything about how he played last year.

      From wiki:
      On October 26, 2014, Long sustained another torn ACL against the Kansas City Cheifs and he missed the rest of the season. He was released along with Scott Wells on the eve of free agency on March 9, 2015. Long was coming off of back-to-back seasons with torn ACLs…

    • Scharfinator

      Worth a shot at vet min, why not?

    • I love it. I remember when we were debating about signing either Long or Bushrod.

      Long had higher upside, but lower floor due to inj risk. Turns out Bushrod was right choice. Kinda ironic that Bushrod is now gone and we signed Long.

      As long as it’s low risk contract, great move.

      He’ll push Massie, and if he’s a swing OT, that should limit his reps and keep him relatively healthy.

      Plus, I doubt Tayo will make another squad. He’ll likely end up right back on our PS.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    Corners will crowd the kid until he shows them he can get behind them for the deep ball. I watched last years Bears Lions game yesterday and nobody has any fear of Cam Meredith and the Lions corners treated him with zero respect.

    At least Bellamy could go get the ball up high

    • Bender McLugh

      I think that will take literally one play. In the first game of pre-season. Dude is going to burn some teams this year

    • Irish Sweetness

      Crowd Kevin and he’ll leave them for dust. Like Cutty said, he can’t overthrow this guy.

      • SC Dave

        Oh yes he can. And he will. All QBs do

        • Bobby Douglass

          Fear the Dragon?

  • Bender McLugh

    the wifey came back from St. Maarten with 12 bottles of this swill……..some of the best swill I’ve ever enjoyed. Apparently it’s St. Maarten’s only export too. Not sugary at all and since they don’t use chems in their process there is very little hangover.

    http://www.toppersrhum.com/

    • Sactowns#1

      Did you get the banana, vanilla, cinnamon? Do you drink it in a chilled martini glass while reading Cosmo?

      • Bender McLugh

        hahah right? I was NOT expecting that one to be good or for me to like it……but it drinks like another spiced ruhm and has very subtle banana flavoring. The regular spiced ruhm is great too, but 80 proof, where the flavored ones are all 40. BTW, on the rocks in a rocks a glass for me, the only way to enjoy a great ruhm.

    • Irish Sweetness

      The wife came back from St. Maarten? Tell me she came back ….with YOU.

      • Bender McLugh

        yeah, she’s already putting a plan together to have us moving there in 3-5 years. Now if only my oil sands stock purchases were a good idea……

  • BC

    Excited for Kevin White but are we just gonna make do with our secondary? Lots of question marks back there. Our front 7 is coming together nicely but if they don’t get home, we may get exposed. I mean, all we hear about is that this is a passing league and we have dudes back there whose family members have never heard of them. Ed Donatell (who looks kinda creepy–like, pedophile creepy) better be as good as advertised.

    • Bender McLugh

      not much out there to grab as far as decent-to-good vets, so I think you are right that we’ll be rolling with what we have. I really do think Amos takes the next step………but I thought the same about Chicken Dinner so what the fuck do I know

      • MB30SD

        Obviously nothing you cunt.

        Sorry, displaced disgust

        • CanadaBear

          From the last thread. Hey MB, I know you’ve been really impressed with Brazil’s preparation for the Olympics. Just wanted to let you know the velodrome that was supposed to be up and running in March is 80% completed. Pretty sure the first race on the track will be for the Olympics. Well done Rio! Well done Brazil! And most especially, well done IOC!

          • Irish Sweetness

            It’s insane. A country with massive financial problems hosting an olympics they can’t afford and doesn’t benefit the country in any way. Madness.

          • CanadaBear

            Wait til some of the visitors venture into the slums. There’s nothing about this that makes sense.

          • willbest

            Didn’t you just describe every country?

          • DaCoaches Mustache

            How are you holding up with the Tayo cut Irish? I picture you laying in the fetal position crying

          • Sactowns#1

            But its a great way for the rich to siphon money from the working by way of construction contracts etc,

          • Trac

            Define “the rich” please sac.

          • Sactowns#1

            Large construction firms and their owners. Generally multi millionaires. It’s not a mystery. If you look at each Olympics there are a few firms who make a boatload of money and the citizens generally get hosed.

          • Trac

            The head of the snake is the Vatican Sac. Crush the head of the snake and you kill the whole system. Did you know that the Vatican is a corporation? There’s your world bank my man. The unholy see runs the whole show.

          • Jes. But Brazil gets cool Olympic T-shirts and coffee mugs to go along with billions in debt.

            Can we open up one of GPs Loans Corps for countries? Or maybe like an International Pawn Shop?

            “Oh, Brazil, let’s see…Ok, I’ll take that gigantic statue of Jesus as collateral”

          • AlbertInTucson

            Every time you see/hear the words Rio or Brazil in the same sentence with Olympics, it’s never good news.

          • MB30SD

            Beutal… all that said, their women have FABULOUS asses but very small boobs usually…. wait…

        • Bender McLugh

          jeezus, for real?

          • willbest

            I am pretty sure he was making a funny regarding your optimism associated with CD.

          • Bender McLugh

            CD – Future Pro-Bowler for the Patriots you mean!

          • Trac

            At least YOU got an apology.

          • MB30SD

            No of course not forreals for fuck sake?!

            I thought we knew each other?! How often am i actually serious?!

            It was just slapdick my main maings, of course I still loves you!! ♡♡♡

          • Bender McLugh

            I’m guessing chlamydia?

          • MB30SD

            Syphilis is a more likely prognosis bend

    • Sactowns#1

      I still don’t understand why the Bears are sitting on a pile of cash and not spending it. Dante Whitner and Leon Hall are sitting out there just begging to be put on this roster.

      • willbest

        Then why aren’t they already?

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’d go a step further and pay Mo, plus give up a first for him. If we get anywhere near the playoffs it’s only a 20th+ that you’re giving up. The difference it would make to the secondary? We’ll never know.

  • CanadaBear

    I’m hopeful White is all this but I’m pumping the brakes. We’ve heard all this hooey about top 10 draft picks for years. Anyone remember Cedrunk?

  • Irish Sweetness

    There’s a 95% chance Kevin will be awesome for us. It’s the other 4 or 5 guys I’m worried about.

    • willbest

      Only 95% Irish? Did he piss in your Cheerios? I thought you were preparing his bust for Caton.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I was thinking 98% TBH!

        • 98.98562 %

          The other 2% I allow in case he gets eaten by a shark, or struck by lightening.

          In fact, make that 98.9674 %

          If he gets struck by lightening, White will merely transform into the Flash.

          #WhiteRain

    • Bobby Douglass

      63% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

  • FQD1911

    my man Drew!!!! all I had to do is ask for a KW article on twitter and you come through in grand fashion! first beer on me should we ever cross paths.

  • Trac

    “As long as he’s not a muslim refugee, or one of those mexican rapist, nothing to worry about…

    #makeMericaGreat”

    Butch dead lift ‘ s post from yesterday.

    I give you Mainak Sartar

    http://heavy.com/news/2016/06/mainak-sarkar-photos-pictures-william-klug-shooting-dead-rip-facebook-page-girlfriend/

    • willbest

      I got a bad grade once. I listened to my high school AP physic teacher who gave me this advice “In college, you will have procrastinated and a big assignment will be due the next day, and a buddy of yours will show up with a case of beer and two smoking hot girls and say lets go have fun. In that moment you will have a choice to be responsible or go out and have fun. Listen to me because this is very important. Go out and have fun. But only do it once”

      And he was right. I did not regret having to take that class over again the next semester.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “Life moves pretty fast. If you don’t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.” – Ferris Bueller

        “And the older you get, the FASTER life moves.” – Albert In Tucson.

        • Trac

          Jess, I now fully understand the meaning of ,”the days get longer and the weeks get shorter” as well as, “the older I get, the fewer ugly women I see”. Lol

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Life is like a roll of toilet paper. You have to deal with a lot of crap and, the closer you get to the end, the faster it goes.” – Somebody’sGrandma.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Jake Long, huh? And yes, three hours behind…

    • Bender McLugh

      exit the Tayo, enter the Jake it seems

      • AlbertInTucson

        Because they hope “Two Longs make a right?”

        • Swing Tackle of Destiny

          see? this kind of genius is why we come to this blog.

  • So my sister took that DNA ancestry test, and as it turns out, she’s 3% Jewish.

    So, Shalom, bitches! I’m part of the tribe now. I knew there was a reason I liked Seinfeld, Bernie and $$$!

    Now, if you guys will kindly let me in on the world wide conspiracy and kick me down with some federal reserve loot, it can be official.

    What do I need for a Jewish starter kit?

    (MB in 3…2…1..)

    • being jewish is a religion. not an ethnicity. swabbing someone’s cheeks won’t tell you you’re jewish.

      INTERLOPER!

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        Sammy Davis Jr. converted.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Sammy took some heat for converting.

          Insults included “Sammy, The Kosher Coon.”

          He also bucked convention of the times when he had the temerity to marry Swedish actress, Mae Britt, a caucasian.

          Sammy’s daughter claims that that marriage caused JFK to prevent Davis, Jr. from performing at the Kennedy inauguration.

          http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/jfk-refused-sammy-davis-jr-perform-white-house/story?id=23379345

          BTW, Mae Britt has nice roles in THE YOUNG LIONS (WWII) with Marlon Brando, Dean Martin and Montgomery Clift and also THE HUNTERS (Korean War) with Robert Mitchum and Robert Wagner.

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            She was quite a catch for ol’ Sammy. Although JFK probably also had her and was just upset he picked up one of his tossaways.

          • CanadaBear

            Just as long as it wasn’t Peter Lawford.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Lawford was eventually excommunicated from the Rat Pack by Pope Sinatra.

          • CanadaBear

            He could out drink the Chairman of the Broads and Frankie didn’t like it.

        • so did hall of famer, rod carew.

      • Damn Ancestry.com. I should tell my sister to get her $ back!

        (see. already being Jewish! yes yes MB, I know racist…)

        I thought they could trace Jewish (or Israeli?) ancestry?

        The odd part was, that it showed her being from the Eastern European Jewish region, not middle eastern. It was kinda specific.

        Dunno.

        http://www.deepfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/shrug.jpg

        • willbest

          Your family must breed early then. 3% would be great great great grandparent, and the Eastern European Jews really didn’t start immigrating until the 1880s. That is assuming your lineage dates back in the US a while. I suppose it could have been a great grandparent that came over, who had a Jewish grandparent

          • DaCoaches Mustache

            This guy FUCKS

          • Get er done!

          • Yeah. we were trying to piece together the likely route of her ancestors. She’s like 40% Italian/Greece Mediterranean, which makes sense looking at her, but was surprised to find out she was also 10% african and 13% English.

            Somewhere along the way, Eastern European Jew happened before coming to the Americas.

            The sucky part about ancestry.com was that while they were rather specific about other regions, if you had native american blood, it was basically ALL of the Americas, south, central, up to like alaska.

            Couldn’t tell you what regions of native americans.

            I was also under the impression that Mongolians migrated to the Americas and became naive americans, so wouldn’t any native american blood also show up as Mongolian?

            Maybe it’s absurdo reducto at some point.

          • willbest

            Well they are just comparing you to the DNA they have in their database. It is unlikely they have a significant sampling of American Indians. The more people that take their test the more accurate they can be with it. Hence some people ending up with large chunks of unknown. In theory if enough people on the planet took the test we could build the human family tree all the way back to Noah.

            African DNA is unsurprising for people from the Mediterranean region of Europe. 13% English is a great grandparent. That would be really easy to pick up in the United States.

        • right. but you can be from that region and not be jewish. just like you can be from alabama and not marry your cousin.

          i’d agree that you can trace israeli ancestry, because they seem to be able to track you to a region. but again, just because you’re a wide receiver doesn’t mean you can catch the ball.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But of course if you trace your DNA back to Israel, then you’re most likely a Palestinian Arab. Balfour drops back … he’s got Walter Rothschild deep down the sideline … TOUCHDOWN !!

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

          • Trac

            Jess, Jews who are not Jews? Who are the Khazars?, for 1 million please Alex.

          • depends how far back that lineage extends. we talking canaan?

      • MB30SD

        Disagree wholeheartedly, but it’s the spice of life my brother

        • Trac

          Jess, he who controls the spice, controls the world.

          #oldspicerocks!

        • please. do go on.

          • MB30SD

            I’m not at all religious, but I feel very strongly about being a tribesman. I don’t even believe in god. I believe all jews are tied together by a common experience much deeper than any other religion because our our historic and current struggles. That and we have a common homeland… even though only official to the current world in the 60s.

          • i don’t disagree with anything you just said. so why do you disagree with me saying that a DNA swab can’t detect a religion? i think we’ve got a bit of a disconnect here.

          • MB30SD

            Oh, i obviously misread your comment. Yeah, that would be silly.

            Why you gotta front yo?!

    • AlbertInTucson

      Mazel Tov!

    • Trac

      Ruh roh, you’ll have to change your name if you want an invite. You hadn’t thought about that had you? Hahaha

    • MB30SD

      A bigger penis that’s been circumsized you disgusting heathen

    • Irish Sweetness

      They actually told her that? I’d ask for my money back.

  • willbest
    • Irish Sweetness

      Dickerson doesn’t get the sarcasm.

      • CanadaBear

        That douchebag doesn’t get a lot of things!

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    Who cares about White! I want to know more about our 7th round pick Braverman.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “What White did best in college was attack on screen passes. When the ball came his way, he got to it and then made people miss.”

    Making people miss in college is one thing. Making bigger, faster guys miss in the NFL remains to be seen.

    Not sayin’ he won’t but…

    • willbest

      Also, I sort of want to get away from the screen pass, so its disheartening to hear that he excels at it.

      • Don’t miss the Trestman screen?

        And whatever happened to the Alshon reverse?

        • Swing Tackle of Destiny

          The Hester screen. God.

        • DaCoaches Mustache

          The AlshonAround is gone for good!

  • 505Bears

    WR screen with White and Alshon in the mix?! Like cheating on a dime girlfriend with the hag down at the local deli. Where’s the sense in doing that?!

    • willbest

      Variety is the spice of life.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      might get a free sammich from the hag at the deli.

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        Her vag probably already looks like roast beef.

        • Trac

          Smh. Tmi…Yuk.

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            Texas Deli Hag.

            I may have found the title to a new song.

    • Sactowns#1

      A fifth of rye and some strange is all the logic you need.

    • Irish Sweetness

      If the screen is thrown to Braverman, wityh the DBS looking at the other two, you could get nice yards. He’s a slippery little fuck.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    New business idea!

    ancestry.com for DOGS. Is your dog from the Asia or European wolf domestication?

    http://gizmodo.com/looks-like-we-were-wrong-about-the-origins-of-dogs-1780094357

    Verify your dog breeders claims! No muggle blood in your pooch!

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    Watching coaches cam (All 22, when it flipping works) on ipad for last season – Bellamy plays big, he plays bigger than his 6’0 frame and thus the offer sheet (old story from March)

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-bears-tender-offer-free-agent-josh-bellamy-20160303-story.html

    If he made strides this offseason, he can make this club, on specials if nothing else.

    • You’re about to get Jericho’d

      that’s why I never get the Braverman type pick. There are guys like Bellamy all over that play at or above 200lbs, have decent height and can play multiple positions. If Braverman was gunning down the field wouldn’t you run right at him to see if you could knee his head right off of his body?

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        It’s the Danny Woodhead thing. He started it.

        • You’re about to get Jericho’d

          haha, Woodhead’s legs are thicker than Bravermans body. He’s 200lbs. People forget how fucking strong that kid is. He looked like a dad playing with kids during his college days.

    • EnderWiggin

      Plus, he can tackle and block on specials… Which is fucking huge.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    So Butch –

    How will the FF league be structured? A 2 kicker league? SeaBass for $25? I need a leg up having pulled an 84 Bears loss to the Niners.

    • haha . . My kung fu is strong.

      Not sure. It’ll likely be 2QB again. 2HB. 1TE. Flex (WR/TE/HB).

      I might just go 1QB and open the flex for QB/WR/TE/HB just to try something new.

      I don’t think anyone liked the punter slot. Though it was pretty funny if a team beat u cuz of a punter (hey, happens in real life!)

      I always wanted to try doing the defensive player thing. But never done it before. Thinking maybe 1 team can pick ONE defensive stud from around the NFL. Just so it won’t be so offensive oriented. But not sure how that format works.

      I also want to give “home field ” advantage to division winner. Like bye week in playoff. A team should get some sort of reward for consistent excellence.

      And I’m def gonna change the wire. While I can see the logic in losers getting first dibs, it seems a bit unfair that suck ass FF teams ALWAYS get first dibs off the wire.

      I’ll have to explore how to make waiver pickups a bit more fair.

      • EnderWiggin

        I’ve been in a few leagues where you pick a db and a dl.. fun stuff

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        I think ESPN will just let you rotate the wire pick.

        If they have a weighted system with some draw element, like Tier 1 2 and 3 draw, that would work best.

  • Trac

    Serious request for Jeff. Can we lose the picture of the zit in the add section? I’m starting to have nightmares.

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      By zit do you mean Cosby?

      • Trac

        Does Cosby get to keep his Congressional medal of freedom?

        He looks so helpless doesn’t he?

        http://mobile.nytimes.com/2010/12/05/sports/05vecsey.html?referer=

        • AlbertInTucson

          One of the alleged victims (The current Mrs. Lou Ferrigno) claims Camille (Mrs. Cosby) was a tacet accomplice.

          • CanadaBear

            That’s a pretty slippery slope.

          • AlbertInTucson

            But quite plausible.

          • Trac

            That does not surprise me Al.

    • Sactowns#1

      Hmm.. mine has Hitler, Barmy Fife and then three dif pics of hot chicks. The internets knows me so well.

      • MB30SD

        I have:
        1. Boobs
        2. Boobs
        3. Boobs
        4. Boobs

        Damns yous the googles!!!

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I have:

      1) Some Ginger actress… Da fuq?
      2) Trumps wife’s golf mishap.. Da fuq again?
      3) NBA players and their wives…I’m really confused
      4) Taxes in Indiana and what residents can do….Oh, whew, ok, that makes some sense

      • Trac

        What do I have to do to change my cache? Visit pron sites?

        • burntorangenavyblue

          No clue. Kid you not, I get ads targeted at me that I have never looked at or visited any sites related to it, but it reflects my wife’s browser and shopping history from her phone. Weird and invasive somewhat?

  • MB30SD
    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      Gorgeous. Side view is stunning

      • I was expecting side boob.
        Gravely disappointed.

        • MB30SD

          Hahaha… let me try and make it up to you today if I have time

        • MB30SD
          • CanadaBear

            I get a kick out of the ladies that have the script tattoos. Some of them have a novella tattooed on them. Some of them are unreadable now. I’m sure in 30-40 years they will look really sweet!

          • MB30SD

            Hahaha, love it on young girls. Sexy as hell… but yeah, when they’re 65 won’t be so sexy.

            Getting old sucks canada

          • CanadaBear

            Yes it really does. I think tattoos are still cool on old people if they were put on properly and taken care of properly. Being a sun worshipper is a bad idea and small detail (like all that script writing) will be unreadable in a few years once the tattoo softens up (due to age, fading and just a loss of detail that happens to all tattoos). That’s why I always preferred big pieces. Even if you lose some detail they still look great. And I made sure they were in places that almost never see the sun.

          • MB30SD

            You have balls tattoos?!

          • CanadaBear

            Nah. Upper arms and quads/torso.

          • MB30SD

            I wasnkidding, I didn’t think you have balls tattoos.

            I can’t even picture what you look like man.

          • CanadaBear

            That would take a lot of dedication to get the twins tattooed! Never occurred to me you thought I had ’em glorified! You would dig the quads/torso tattoo.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i got a Flaming Nut tattooed on my upper arm.

          • MB30SD

            Let’s See it

          • CanadaBear

            It would involve showing my groinal region! Not sure how many people on here want to see that. My dad’s family is from Ireland so that’s the motivation behind it. I’ve got a leprechaun on the edge of a cliff dancing a jig on my left quad, the pot of gold on the other quad (also on the edge of a cliff) and a giant rainbow with clouds in it connecting everything. 20 hours needle time. WHEEEEEE! The arms are a stylized keyboard with a bunch of music stuff and the other arm has an image from a Greatful Dead T-shirt. It’s the man in the moon smoking a fatty and the smoke turns into the Milky Way. As you can tell, it’s all high brow stuff!

          • MB30SD

            Wooow…. I don’t even know you anymore. Hahaha

  • Casino Royal. 3 of a kind…

    Eddie Royal is fully recovered following last year’s injury-ruined season and is participating in OTAs.

    One of the best slot receivers in the league with San Diegoin 2014 (62-778-7), Royal was limited to 37 catches in nine games with the Bears last season after signing a three-year, $15 million deal. He
    battled ankle and knee injuries, in addition to a late-season illness. With Royal and Kevin White back healthy, the Bears’ passing game quietly offers explosive potential this year. – Roto.

    So Bears. Neither Rolle nor Royal had inj histories. Join bears. Get inj.

    • willbest

      Incidentally, this is why I don’t find it problematic that Jeffery missed OTAs. Every receiver was injured last year, so it is an entirely reasonable position for him to conclude that the differences between Crypt Keeper and Fox’s workout programs might have had something to do with that.

      • MB30SD

        Will, that’s unlike you to proffer such a massive chasm of a leap sir.

        Not buying that shit, but maybe it’s because my gut tells me alshon is a fucking turd

        • SC Dave

          Will has an explanation every bit as legit as yours

          • MB30SD

            Of course, that’s also why we all have our own little asshole. : )

        • willbest

          I always try to put myself in the the shoes of the person when I analyze the situation. That doesn’t necessarily mean I agree with them, because quite often I feel people are being objectively stupid, but I often find an internal rationale that is consistent.

          In the case of Alshon, if you do something a certain way and are successful, and then you are told to do it differently and you struggle, then isn’t it rational to conclude that, at least for you, the first way is better?

          I also fully understand the position that Marshall’s work ethic and character pushed Jeffery to be better than he could be on his own. It makes sense given that the one thing we know about Marshall is he doesn’t half ass anything, and Jeffery has a knock on him from college.

          But I also think it is possible that Jeffery not fitting the prima donna model of legit #1 WR, causes people to misjudge him. Except the one game where they clearly used him as a decoy he played at an ultra high level when he did play.

          And the other thing, how is it that he would be more motivated in the shit show that was 2014 than in the his contract year with 35-40 million guaranteed on the line?

          • Irish Sweetness

            AJ excelled when Brandon was drawing the coverage, and if he thinks he knows better than the NFL team that pays him …. then goodbye. He’s already acting like a guy you don’t pay top dollar to. Both healthwise and headwise.

          • willbest

            AJ excels at contested catches, separation from coverage, and blocking. You like to rag on his TD totals but he should have had 2 more if Cutler hadn’t underthrown him

          • AJ excelled last year too. 800 yards in 9 games, despite never being fully healthy in any of them, is nothing to sneeze at.

            Health is the concern, just like it was every year except for his monster 2013 season. Missed games as a rookie and last year, played through injuries that limited him in 2014.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Cutty just came out and said these soft tissue injuries are because of players not coming in. He blasted AJ. Can’t remember where that was from, but I read it. So, far from being beneficial, AJ needs to be with his team for those reasons, as well as getting his timing down with Cutty. All that’s happening is that (a) he’ll be soft again (b) he’s pissing everybody off (c) Kevin is getting all the reps with Cutty and building chemistry.

        We know what happens to receivers who piss Cutty off.

        • You’re about to get Jericho’d

          Cutler would never blast a guy coming off of a rookie deal. No fucking way. Link or it didn’t happen.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Unless Cutler is a doctor in the medical field specializing in sport injuries, there’s no way to correlate that not attending OTA contribute to a player having a higher chance of soft tissue injury.

          Link/source or Cutler never said it.

          This whole “controversy” about players not going to voluntary programs has gotten out of hand. Be mad at the players’ union and the cba that allows it.

    • SC Dave

      Facilities?

    • Scharfinator

      I thought Rolle had issues before?

  • Just loading up on OT

    No wonder they didn’t draft Tunsil

    I wonder if Pox had Long and Chandler in mind all along.

    Bears signed T/G Nate Chandler, formerly of the Panthers.

    It’s another wortwhile pickup for Bears GM Ryan Pace, who’s gotten off to a fast start since replacing Phil Emery two winters ago. 27-year-old Chandler is well regarded amongst media offensive line evaluators and offers 19 games of starting experience with the ability to handle both guard and tackle. Chicago’s biggest weakness is left tackle, where Charles Leno presently resides. – Roto

    • Update.

      Bears signed Chandler. Let Long walk.

      So Long.

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        Plus we have Kling Kong.

        I’m serious, that guy is so money – he doesn’t know how money he is

        • Our draft is usually 3rd PS game. Let’s see if he makes it that far cuz I have a feeling I know what your FF team name will be.

          #ripTeamTayo

    • That Guy

      It makes me feel good when every single educated person on the blog points out the same weakness on the team and then the GM signs someone to address it.

      We’ve all been concerned about depth at tackle. We’d all love an all pro left tackle to fall from the sky, but we’re aware that Leno is probably the best we can get right now. Still, there’s nobody behind him.

      We needed a depth player. Ideally a rookie who can push Leno or possibly replace him in a year or two. If there’s no rookie to be found (there may be someone on the roster, but no clear choice), we need a bridge player. A veteran who can come cheap, but who we can hopefully get 3-4 games out of to help out if Leno gets hurt short term.

      Long and Chandler both fit that mold. They’re both too risky to keep for 16 games, but as a backup, they can hold the spot nicely. And the mileage concerns keep them nice and cheap.

      Pace did good.

      • Yes, I always am astounded at how stubborn or idiotic some coaches are.

        Like, it REALLY had to take the old coaching regimes that long to find out Webb was not a LT, or Hester wasn’t a WR, or that Thomas Jones was the superior runner?

        The average fan were way ahead of the ppl getting paid millions to evaluate.

        Sometimes I think that being close to the players actually muddies up their judgement.

        They’re too close. Too subjective.

        Evaluating is an art, and as with any great art, a creator needs a certain amount of distance from the subject. It’s like a convex mirror. The closer you are to it, the more it distorts the image (can apply to life too).

        (On a side note, this is why Schopenhauer argued that women can never be great artists, or equal to men, even though they’ve been painting and playing instruments just as long – because they are too involved with the subject and lack the necessary distancing or ‘cold eye’).

        This regime seems to be unsentimental about the process. Once Vereen played like shit, it didn’t take them long to sit and cut him. Same with a few other players like McManis.

        They weren’t afraid of promoting relative no-names like Anderson, Timu or Callahan.

        I think that’s what distinguishes this regime from the previous ones. They seem to trust in their coaching ability to prepare the no-names, so if the ‘starters’ do suck, they don’t hesitate to pull the plug.

        This applies to Leno and Massie. They know they’re not exactly sure-fire, so they bring in REAL options and will sit either if they underperform.

        It’s refreshing.

        • CanadaBear

          Agree with everything except that Schopenhauer crapola. Just off the top of my pointy little head I thought of Diesel Dykes. They are women but act like men.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    Mike North wannabe describes Kling Kong and his technique

  • a quick comp tech question since some of you are quite comp savvy.

    I have roughly 6RAM

    When I open up Windows Task Manager (under “performance”)

    It reads

    Physical memory

    Total 5940
    Cached 2127
    Available 3691
    Free 1668

    So a few questions.

    1. Is that a high amount for cached? I thought I cleared it, but maybe not.

    2. What’s the difference between “available” and “Free”?
    So I have 3GBs (available) that I can use, or 1.6GB (Free)?

    3. I ask cuz I want to game on my PC, but I read an article that said it’s a good idea to have at least 4GB to play. So am I good?

    My laptop has been acting slow when it comes to the gaming and overall functioning.

    Sometimes it even just turns off (which might be due to fans/overheating? But I use a fanpad)

    If I erase pictures and vid off hard drive, will that free up RAM GBs?

    I don’t want to erase my early 90s porn audition from my hard drive, but I will if I have to.

    Thanks, nerds!

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      Available is the only one that matters. Available shows what is capable of being used by programs. Without paging other lower priority processes out of memory. It is a combination of both Cache and Free.
      http://brandonlive.com/2010/02/21/measuring-memory-usage-in-windows-7/

    • willbest

      Available is a combination of cached and Free. Its what you need. If a game recommends 4GB of RAM it fully anticipates that the OS is going to be using 1-2 GB of it.

      Unless you like to view your porn while you are playing video games its irrelevant (unless you need Hard drive space, some games are quite big these days).

      As for your machine turning off when you play games it could be any number of things from overheating to the video card or power supply starting to fail to just a driver issues.

      You can grab some benchmark software to put your machine under load to see how it fails.

      • Bender McLugh

        if it shuts down during gaming without any warning and doesn’t “blue screen”, then overheating of the Vid card or CPU is the culprit. If it’s a laptop I’m guessing your fans are whirring like crazy trying to disipate the heat being generated right before shutdown.

        A laptop cooling pad can help alot, but not guaranteed.
        http://www.amazon.com/HAVIT-HV-F2056-Laptop-Cooler-Cooling/dp/B00NNMB3KS/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1464954170&sr=1-5&keywords=laptop+cooling+pad

        Also, to really boost performance get yourself an SSD (solid-state drive). That’s normally the biggest improvement you can make to any rig.

        • That’s exactly what happens. Once a blue screen appeared, but more recently, it just shuts down, and I notice it tends to happen when I’m gaming (and yeah, on laptop). It’s only been recently though. So I bought a new cooling pad. I cleared up a lot of the cache. Did what Irish advised and stopped programs from running from start up (like Itunes which I hardly use) and erased some unnecessary junk from my hard drive. Laptop enema.

          I wish it would give me warning. It’s kind hard to hear the fans.

          I’ll have to look into the SSD.

          I saw someone on youtube add “virtual memory” (for free) but some of the comments warned that it can actually slow down your computer, or worse, fuck it up somehow, so I don’t know if I should mess with it.

          • Bender McLugh

            I’m going to guess you have an HP laptop……right?

          • No, it’s a Dell. I5 processor, Windows 7.

            Does using “Balanced” vs “Power Saver” vs “High Performance” matter? Does using “High performance” (power options) make the computer work harder?

            It’s been good up until recently. It’s kinda old now that I think of it (2010), but I’m one of those guys that doesn’t upgrade tech just for the fuck of it. I kinda get comfy using shit that works. That’s why I still have a PS3, a Poloraid HD TV, and like a 2yr old cell.

            I know someone who just bought a smart tv, and that remote is annoying!

          • Bender McLugh

            They mean fuck all when a game is running

    • Ah. Ok, Thanks dudes.

      Yes. googled Task Manager for dummies and came across this vid to help inform me

      I didn’t have problems b4. I’ve been playing the game for a few months now, but only lately has it been acting up (taking forever to load. Lagg. etc).

      So I msgd them, and they responded to clear cache or try diff browser or incognito mode, which didn’t help.

      I cleared the temp cache files (which were a lot) then starting checking out the Task Manager stats but didn’t know exactly what it meant.

      So, just to be clear, I have about 3.6GB of RAM I can use, right?

      If so, then the problem is likely not on my end (of course, if my driver or fans are dying and my comp is in death throes, might be on my end).

      OK. Hopefully I can figure it out.

      Thanks.

      (edit. I also conducted speed test just to be sure, and my MBPS is in the 60s, so should be good there)

      • EnderWiggin

        Just a side not for ya: If a game recommends 4gb ram, they are saying your machine should have that much. They take into account all of that stuff you have running in the background (the game is probably using some of it). But! If you are trying to stream netflix or have something big running in the background(PS,Power Director) your game will lag like a sumanubetch.

      • Irish Sweetness

        They only list minimum memory requirements for games. If it says it needs 4GB, they really mean 6 or 8.

        Run MSCONFIG to see what’s opening and running on startup. Very little needs to be running to use your machine.

        If the PC is powering off for no reason, you probably need a fan with a higher wattage.

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny
    • MB30SD

      Here is my advice:

      Stop wanting to be a PC gamer douche (sorry irish) and get yourself a PS4 and some jetpacks and come join the shade man and i….

      Speaking of. .. rabbit… wtf maings… empty promises. : (

      We thought you loved us

      • 505Bears

        Which one you all playing?

        • MB30SD

          COD BO III… I see you on my friends list once in a while playing online virtual gay male whore… that any good?

          (Nttawwt)

          Join us

          • 505Bears

            VGMW has it’s ups and downs…cha cha!! haha….I’ll have to pick up that game and check it out. I have never played online with the PS4.

          • MB30SD

            Hahaha… nice.

            Get on it maings… we have fun. You know where to find ne

  • Doc Nitty

    Happy Friday, bitches!

    The Mariners came back from a 12-2 deficit to win on the road 16-13.

    The Sun is shining and it is a beautiful day in the Emerald City.

    Oh…and my wife will be served her divorce papers today.

    Everything’s coming up Millhouse!

    • MB30SD

      BOOM!! congrats my brother

    • CanadaBear

      Good luck Doc. Hopefully she is motivated and willing to negotiate the settlement. I promise once you come out the other side, you will be a much happier camper.

      • MB30SD

        So much this.

    • Sactowns#1

      So this is what it sounds like when doves cry.

  • MB30SD
  • Bears S curse continues…

    Bears FS Adrian Amos is recovering from offseason shoulder surgery and has been limited to individual drills at OTAs.

    In typical John Fox fashion, the Bears aren’t letting any details out about what kind of surgery it was, but it was “more than a scope.” The 2015 fifth-rounder started all 16 games as a rookie and showed well, grading out as Pro Football Focus’ No. 22 safety, grading out 11th for his run defense. He didn’t record an interception, but coaches believe he’s a player on the rise on the back end. – Roto

    • willbest

      So in addition to following Tunsil for the next couple years I can add Joseph in terms of first round draft picks that filled a need.

      • I def wanted Joseph.
        Ironically, one of the knocks on him is that he’s so violent that he would likely be inj prone.

        But I wouldn’t mind that gamble.

    • Bender McLugh

      goddammittall

      • Never ends, does it.
        If he starts throwing out his shoulder by half time like Conte, I quit.

        • CanadaBear

          It’s like the Bears have to keep paying for that miracle 13-3 season under Jauron.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            not cool.

          • 505Bears

            What a Dick!!

    • 505Bears

      At least he is back to doing some drills? Positive angle?…So what’s the safety rotation at this point? Are the Bears going to lineup one of those rookies back there?

    • AlbertInTucson

      “In typical John Fox fashion…’

      BS.

      Why single out Fox?

      That’s just Typical NFL management fashion.

  • willbest

    Okay so this came to my attention.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/06/02/female-named-hurricanes-kill-more-than-male-because-people-dont-respect-them-study-finds/

    Which falls in the I can’t believe its not an Onion article territory. It also has me wondering if the study’s authors didn’t factor in time. They go back 50-60 years in their study, but male names have only been used in hurricanes since 1979. There has been a lot of advances in early warning detection, communications, and construction practices which would all reduce death totals of the newer hurricanes. It would make no sense to include hurricanes prior to 1979 in the analysis.

    Also something I learned that I was not previously aware of. There is a Hurricane hall of infamy, as they will retire the name of particularly destructive hurricanes.

    • Sactowns#1

      Oh for sure. You will never have another one named Katrina. Or maybe that’s the key. If there’s a particularly large and dangerous hurricane coming maybe they SHOULD name it Katrina. Get everyone’s attention and put the fear of God in them.

  • Scharfinator

    I want to call Kevin “Great White”, like he’s a shark.

    • MB30SD

      A great white one?

      • AlbertInTucson

        We can only hope.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Hope it doesn’t turn out to be “The Great White HYPE.”

      • Scharfinator

        Yeah, or something – haven’t found a good nickname for him yet.

  • MB30SD

    Hey GP, my CEO just bought this: https://imgflip.com/i/1597du

  • MB30SD

    Here’s a shot from Zimbabwe for you guys. That’s my brother in the left, my dad’s in the front of the canoe on the right.

    https://imgflip.com/i/1597lv

    • willbest

      Hippos are no joke.

      • MB30SD

        Naw man, fucking scary animals. One bum rushed us… you’ve never seen me paddle that fast. Also got attacked by one in botswana in 2000… frightening

  • willbest
    • Sactowns#1

      And just like an oil pipeline, some ingenious individuals will most likely tap into it and syphon a little off here and there. Hell, I’d run a small tap straight into my house.

    • Trac

      You really think that pipeline is going to have beer in it? Not likely.

    • MB30SD

      Belgian beer is indeed glorious will.

      And Bruge is a great place to drink it.

  • Sactowns#1

    Is it 5pm yet?!
    Ok, random question of the day. If you could have any car in the world, but could only drive that car and ride in that car (within reason, like 95% of the time if you’re a passenger it’s gotta be in this car) what car would you choose? One more wrinkle, you’ve gotta keep the car for 10 years and must pay for all service.
    I thought about this and I think I would have to go with a CTSV or a Mercedes S65/ S55. Power, luxury, comfort and not outrageous. Plus I gots to have 4 doors.

    • Trac

      I’m rolling with an L.A.V. G.P. and Waffle can dial me up on their sat com ‘ s for an extraction after the election this fall.

      http://olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_lav.php

      • Sactowns#1

        Oh man, now you’re talking zero comfort. If you wanted to do that get something like this, which had a retractable roof so you could mount a gun on the turret. http://www.lambocars.com/off_road/lm001.html

        • Trac

          Nah. This vehicle conjures up images of Somali Warlords driving Toyota pickups doing doughnuts loaded down with AK 47 toting Somali’s.

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        You can use Arma 3 to SIMULATE the day you will crush zombies under wheel for realz

        • Trac

          Wow, I’ve been severely handicapped. This is awesome.

      • willbest

        I don’t see the gallons per mile listing.

        • Trac

          I’m guessing 6-8 MPG?

          • willbest

            It took some digging but I found that it has a max range of 410 miles, and has a 71 gallon tank so that would mean. 5.7 miles per gallon. That is probably under optimal conditions, you start putting armaments on it and that is likely to drop. But still better than the M1 Abrams which gets 0.6 miles per gallon.

          • Trac

            I almost said 4-6 mpg. Btw, I would only use my ride for civilian incursions. No way I’d take an LAV into a combat zone.

    • MB30SD

      This is what I will buy myself the second I sell my gig

      http://auto-database.com/land-rover/defender/1993/defender-110_1993/

      • Sactowns#1

        On a long drive up the 101? In SD traffic? Idk amigo.

        • MB30SD

          Fuck dat maings… go over the traffic. Most of my driving is within 30ish miles

          These are what all the safari outfits use, they will almost crawl up a fucking tree.

          Now about the gas mileage

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        zombie ready

    • willbest

      I was surprised when my car insurance’s website quoted me only $120/mo. on that Mercedes. Was not expecting that for a base MRSP of 225k. Still in order to meet your 10 year 95% of the time it would need to be one of those minivans pretending to be SUV’s (which I already have).

      So probably Mercedes GL

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      probably got to go with my Jeep Wrangler. I have had mine for 12 years and already spend 95% of my time riding in it. Easy to work on, easy to modify, pretty damn cheap all around. In 12 years the only problem I have had was the starter went out.

      • willbest

        I think he means you get the car free, but then after that you gotta use it and maintain it. So obviously you don’t want something that will pitch a fit if it hits a pothole, or comes with a 5k a year insurance premium, but at the same time, a brand new car shouldn’t need anything major in it for a decade unless you put 20k a year on it.

    • Bender McLugh

      Peugeot, all models. Or Tesla.

  • I wonder if Bears are offering around the same for Alshon?

    Mike Klis of 9 News Denver believes Emmanuel Sanders
    could land a deal similar to Jeremy Maclin’s five-year, $55 million
    contract if he reaches the open market.

    The question, of course, is whether Sanders will reach free
    agency. He’s in the last year of his contract and the Broncos are
    “trying” to extend him. Sanders is an interesting case because he’s a
    No. 2 receiver who produces like a No. 1. Klis mentioned Larry
    Fitzgerald’s two-year, $22 million deal as a blueprint the Broncos could
    use for extending Sanders, who turned 29 in March.- Roto

    • willbest

      Jeffery is AJ Green comparable when healthy. That might mean they go the Cutler route and make $2 million of his salary contingent on being on the active roster, or try to get him for less guaranteed (say 30 instead of 37 mil), but they know damn well they aren’t going to sing him for less than 14 a season.

    • Bender McLugh

      How they let Sanders go is beyond me. No way

      • Bender McLugh

        NOW you can call me a cunt

        • MB30SD

          ♡ Cunt ♡

    • If he’s simply going for the most money possible, Alshon would be a fool to accept a penny less than what TY Hilton got (5 years, $65M, $28M guaranteed), which is why he’s going to be playing somewhere else in 2017.

      Hilton got paid like Dez and D Thomas, and Alshon wants to too. The Bears aren’t going to do it, but somebody will.

      • CanadaBear

        Hope you’re wrong but it makes sense.

      • willbest

        Alshon happens to be a bit better than Hilton. In fact, I would rather have Jeffery than Thomas who had very little chemistry with Oz.

  • Bender McLugh

    Think Maclin will have a comeback year? He’s got to be healthy now. Cordarelle Patterson might busy the lid off of some mediocre stats this year.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “USMNT is playing well. The result so far is unfortunate but they lack people who score goals.”

    The football equivalent of “They move the ball well but stink in the Red Zone?”

  • AlbertInTucson

    R.I.P., Muhammed Ali.

    • AlbertInTucson

      And now, a sad word from our sponsor…



      “Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee”..



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      tonight went to his final rest.



      Burma Shave.

    • DaMurph

      Do you remember sitting and listening to the radio for the fights? Never on TV, sitting at a table listening to that AM broadcast with a good announcer making you feel like you were ringside.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Yes. The fight guy I remember was Don Dunphy. The first fight I ever remember listening to was the rematch between Floyd Patterson and Ingemar Johanssen when Patterson became the first boxer to re-take the heavyweight title.

      • Trac

        Yeah man, that was right after the invention of electricity yo. I remember it well. Lol

  • Doc Nitty

    R.I.P. Muhammad Ali.

    One of the true Great Ones. All time. Sad.

  • Trac

    Here’s my take on the Ali thing. My comments are not directed at Ali the man.

    Ali was used to rope a dope the entire sport of boxing after he was chosen to be it’s golden boy. His career was scripted from start to finish and the corruption that resulted from his handlers eventually ruined the sport. I always believed fighters like Shavers, Foreman and Frazier got stiffed due to the corruption. The Heavyweight division never recovered from the likes of Don King and even though we ended up with Tyson, Boxing eventually died on the vine and became a cesspool of unsavory characters.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He’s just passed so I’ll keep my thoughts to myself, I just hope the “he was a great man” bullshit gets kept to a minimum.

    • MB30SD
    • Bender McLugh

      Are you laying that at the feet of Ali?

      • Doc Nitty

        Just shake your head and walk away.

        • Trac

          Jess Doc.

  • CanadaBear

    http://ringsidereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Prince-Ali.jpeg

    This pic makes me smile. Prince smiling like a little kid and The Champ being The Champ.

    • Doc Nitty

      That’s cool.

      Somebody said it like a month before Prince died, but the Reaper has taken a lot of big names this year. Then he came for Prince and Ali. Apocopalypse nigh? Or as Al said, am I just getting old?

      • CanadaBear

        it’s been a pile of famous people this year. David Bowie and Lemmy and a few Blues guys along with Ali and Prince. My mom told me late in her life the worst part about getting old was burying your friends. She forgot to tell me about burying all your icons.

      • SC Dave

        Criminy!! You’re still alive… seems good enough to me

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    The new Bond has been chosen 31 year old Theo James.

    So now Bond looks like he’s just out of high school

    http://tinyurl.com/husc2ph

    • willbest

      It could have been worse, people were talking up Gillian Anderson for the role.

      • EnderWiggin

        Worse? I’d love to see Special Agent Scully as 007. Just the thought of Anderson shacking up and doing the hibbidy-dibbidy with some chick like Mary Goodnight or

        Jill Masterson… hubba-hubba!

        • willbest

          Yeah that isn’t how that would play out.

          • EnderWiggin

            All 007s get the girls.

          • Captain Obvious

            And wouldn’t it be kinda… cool… if Jane Bond got the girl?

          • EnderWiggin

            ‘Obvious’ly =)

        • AlbertInTucson

          Never got the hulabalu over ms. Anderson.

          Favorite Bond girl: Shirley Eaton, GOLDFINGER.

      • That Guy

        I actually really like Anderson as a 007 idea. But it likely would have been a short run once the novelty wore off.

        Still, imagine a female 007 in Pakistan ferreting out a terrorist training camp for british runaways. One minute she’s rubbing shoulders with the rich oil men who can’t believe a woman is outfoxing them at sports betting. The next she seduces the right hand man to the radical cleric and watches him beheaded when the secret is discovered. Finally, in a she escapes in a helicopter with half a dozen teenage captives after causing copious damage to oil wells and terrorist goons; the whole camp awash in a huge explosion as they fly off into the sunset.

        I feel like that works as well as anything they’ve done lately.

        • willbest

          Except the part where she gets gang raped for being an unescorted female, and that a woman in peak physical form doesn’t stand a chance against 3 guys that have 50 pounds each on her.

    • MB30SD

      I am MB’s unimpressed…ness. : /

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Probably so that they can wring out as many years and movies as possible out of this guy. I wouldn’t mind seeing a beginning story for him or when he’s in the early years as an agent.

      However, Kingsmen: The Secret Service has filled in that area of an agent starting out. I didn’t think twice about attempting to see that movie. Then my wife recorded it on a free HBO weekend, and we were pleasantly surprised at how good it turned out to be. I am excited about the sequel.

      • Johnnywad

        You liked Kingsmen? I thought it sucked. I had high hopes, but ended up wishing I hadnt paid to see it.

  • Doc Nitty

    An all time great man and an all time great athlete-showman died and we get like what, 4 comments? either Kate Uptons tits are streaming live somewhere or my blog brethren don’t care about Ali.

    Who, I ask you, is more iconic in American culture? Elvis? Babe Ruth? Michael? Who, I ask you? WHOOOOOOO?!!?!?!?!?!

    • CanadaBear

      Most famous man on the planet for decades. The pic of Prince and Ali that I posted actually made me smile and feel better. Prince looks like a little kid next to Ali and he’s acting just like any kid would when The Champ is fucking with ya. Gotta give him credit for standing up for his beliefs. He could have gone into the army and fought exhibitions/did PR work and he would have been in and out in 2 years. By refusing to go they stripped his title and wouldn’t sanction a fight for 3.5 years and then only after a Supreme Court ruling.

      • SC Dave

        Most famous man on the planet for decades? Hyperbole, Canada.

        • CanadaBear

          Not really Dave. People knew him on every continent. Unlike world leaders, people actually liked Ali and remembered him long after the latest world leader had faded off into the sunset (or was bumped off).

          • AlbertInTucson

            Ali lighting of the Olympic Flame in Atlanta was epic.

          • Irish Sweetness

            They like him, but they didn’t know him. They didn’t know the full story. That doesn’t make him great.

          • CanadaBear

            They don’t know him but you do? Sure I’ll buy that.

          • Irish Sweetness

            No, no I know what you mean. But the millions of fans he had probably weren’t exposed to as many interviews and documentaries as some of us more long in the tooth. They just see the cool stuff. I remember the aggressive stuff about white people, and I was a kid so it kind of scared me.

          • CanadaBear

            He was hardly perfect but most male athletes at the top of their respective sports are selfish as hell. I don’t get wrapped up in that. He meant a lot to a lot of people all over the globe.

      • Irish Sweetness

        And the mean streak .. the adultery on a string of wives … his failure as a father and a friend to people who had helped him in his time of need? All canceled out because he wouldn’t fight for his country?

        • CanadaBear

          Really? A boxer has a mean streak? Stop the presses! Other than the latest religious deity, most people have faults and failings. I have no idea about his private life and don’t care. If you look back I’ve never said he was the greatest anything. He had an amazing life and touched a lot of people, good and bad. Oh well.

          • Irish Sweetness

            In fairness, we shouldn’t even be looking to boxers to be our role models. They walk a hard road in life.

          • Trac

            You had mentioned Farrakhan previously. Have you ever taken the time to search out his comments before the news media has edited them? On Palestine, the guy is dead on. It’s a crying shame what is happening to those poor souls right now. The world had gone mad my man..

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t use any athletes for role models. Never did. Most boxers grew up fighting every day.

    • willbest

      It is the weekend. Elvis throws me because the others are sports related. So if you consider yourself a lover of sports you will know him. And he most certainly embodies an era, so if you care about the late 60s and early 70s you will know him as well. But top 5-10 American cultural icon? That seems unlikely.

      Are people that have no interest in such things going to learn who he is the way we learn about Babe Ruth, Wright Brothers, Neil Armstrong, Walt Disney? And of course there is the definitive American cultural icon, Mark Twain.

      I just don’t see Ali lasting past the death of the boomers as an icon. Which isn’t to say he did not achieve the same 0.001% of greatest that the other names I listed, but that he did it in a sport that is no longer relevant to the American experience.

      • Doc Nitty

        No way. Ali transcended sports.

        • Trac

          The greatest thing I admired Ali for, took place outside of the boxing ring. His refusal of the Army’s draft order was the most courageous act of his lifetime in my opinion.

          http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/muhammad-ali-refuses-army-induction

          • CanadaBear

            No doubt. He could have gone in the army and they would have had him do PR for 2 years. He knew that but made a stand. Cost him 3.5 prime years of his career.

          • Trac

            Every war has been started by the ruling elite for sworded gain. Read the protocol ‘ s of Zion Canada. It’s a sin what these bastards are getting away with.

          • Doc Nitty

            This

        • willbest

          I mentioned that. But does he transcend his generation. Seen many tributes by the under 25 crowd?

        • AlbertInTucson

          Absolutely.

    • Trac

      At least I commented. Whadda ya want? A rubber bisquit?

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gSF9QT4jmsQ

    • Irish Sweetness

      Ask yourself why, Doc. Can we speak the truth? I didn’t feel anything when I saw he’d passed. He was far from a great man.The civil rights activist thing is kind of blemished by his derisory attitude to whites, he was as racist as those he spoke out against. He never had an opinion that wasn’t Louis Farrakhan’s – he memorised his greatness, but a sixth-grader would probably have out-debated him on any subject he hadn’t been coached on by the nation of Islam. He shit on those who had helped him when he was down on his luck, guys like Joe Frazier. He hid behind Islam whilst committing adultery. He was a mean individual but it all got glossed over because he developed Parkinsons, and most people’s memory of him is based on an image of a sickly old man lighting the olympic flame.

      As a boxer? Very good boxer – 3 time champ – though was beaten 5 times. No better than Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Larry Holmes or Leon Spinks though. Earnie Shavers and a leasst few others were a match for him. If he fought Big George another nine times he would have lost nine times. George destroyed Frazier inside two rounds knocking him down 5 times. Ali couldn’t knock a one-eyed man down once in their three fights. The last one he was given because Joe’s corner thought more of their fighter. Ali admitted later that he wouldn’t have been able to stand up for the last round, that he felt “close to death”. Frazier’s corner threw in the towel against his wishes. That really should have been 2-1 to Frazier.

      He seemed to touch a lot of people, and that’s a gift in itself. I wasn’t going to say anything, but since you asked, there ya go. I wasn’t a fan of the man. As a boxer and character, huge obviously. As a human being, not so much.

      • Trac

        “Genius… is the capacity to see ten things where the ordinary man sees one.” Ezra Pound

        • Irish Sweetness

          I was just up on NFL.COM which is breaking under the weight of tributes from players who literally never knew anything other than the Muhammad Ali with Parkinson’s. It’s amazing how a man could brainwash an entire generation who never really knew him. The cult of personality. As a personality, yes, he was truly a legend. No arguments there. As a man, well, it depends on what your definition of a great man is.

      • Doc Nitty

        I love you anyway.

        • Trac

          Here’s the thing Doc, we get so much disinformation that there’s a little truth to all of our opinions and there’s where the rub begins.

        • Irish Sweetness

          :o)

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    • burntorangenavyblue

      When you make a comment being incredulous that other people aren’t stopping what they are doing to comment or pay their respects or whatever, doesn’t that sorta blemish the whole point of remembering someone?

      • Doc Nitty

        I am sorry.

    • Captain Obvious

      Just remember, your arms are too short to box with God.

      That’s all I’ve got. I never was a fan of Ali. Sure, he was a great boxer, but boxing means nothing to me, and if the self-aggrandizing “I am the greatest” shtick is annoying in today’s age of narcissist athletes, he didn’t make it any more appealing to me doing it 30+ years ago.

      He was a great athlete, I’ll give him that. He probably did some nice stuff for people. He lived to 74 with Parkinson’s, which is about what my dad got with his Parkinson’s. It’s a shitty disease. They’ve been careful to report that Ali didn’t die FROM Parkinson’s; he died WITH Parkinson’s. Which means he didn’t drown in his own spit because he lost the ability to swallow (that’s pretty much what happened to my dad).

      All in all, neither Ali’s life nor his death affect me much.

      More iconic in American culture? Outside of Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Truman, Kennedy, LBJ, Nixon, Reagan, GWB (“iconic” doesn’t mean you have to like ’em)? Michael Jordan. I’d be off base somewhere overseas, or traveling, and when people found out I was from Chicago, they’d ask me about Jordan. THAT guy is an icon like no other.

    • AlbertInTucson

      He PUNISHED Ernie Terrell won he took back the title. Terrell kept calling him “Clay” and Muhammed didn’t care for that. That was the fight he kept yelling “WHAT’S MY NAME?!”

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    • MB30SD

      Smfh

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