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Seven Thoughts for Seven Games (Thought 7)

| October 25th, 2016

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Thought 7. On Offensive Optimism

I started making a chart a few weeks ago. The chart has three columns.

  • Column 1 – each position on the roster.
  • Column 2 – players who could be part of the team’s plans in 2017.
  • Column 3 – players who will be part of the team’s plans in 2017.

(I’ll be sharing this chart over the second half of the season.)

Why did I start doing this? Because I thought it would be important to track the development of younger players and monitor just how many holes the Bears will still need to fill come the end of the calendar year. For instance, a player moving from column 2 to column 3 would show growth; moving in the opposite direction would mean things are going in the wrong direction.

Think about the 2017 Bears on offense.

They have good tailbacks. Jordan Howard is big and physical. Jeremy Langford is shifty and versatile. Ka’Deem Carey is looking like a solid change-of-pace option for either player.

If they re-sign Alshon Jeffery, which they must, their receiving corps will be affordably four-deep. Jeffery, Cam Meredith, Kevin White and Eddie Royal present enough challenges to an opposing defensive coordinator to keep the chains moving most every week. Meredith’s emergence will take pressure of White. (Marquess Wilson will forever be on the horizon and I actually believe Josh Bellamy can play.)

Three fifths of their offensive line is terrific (Sitton, Whitehair, Long). Hroniss Grasu will provide depth inside. It will be surprising if Leno and Massie both anchor the unit a year from now. Zach Miller is a good tight end but they’ll look to improve/add there.

Their biggest question mark could be the quarterback position if they decide to move on from Jay Cutler. But if the Bears don’t identify a franchise quarterback in the draft, would anyone be surprised to see a Cutler/Hoyer/mid-rounder quarterbacks room?

Cutler starts Monday night against the Vikings. He also starts the most important 9-game stretch of his NFL career, auditioning perhaps for both the Bears and various other franchises. If he changes the trajectory of this season, winning say 6 of 9, what happens then?

The question is quarterback in 2017. Can 2016 help provide answers?

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  • The Yes Guy

    Yes.

    • The Walking Double Standard

      in a sea of uncertainty you remain constant.

      • The Yes Guy

        Yes!

  • The Walking Double Standard

    Oh my god suck my balls all you fucking haters.

    • MB30SD

      cutty haters? white haters? wilson haters?

      • The Walking Double Standard

        Haha, Hoyer was just a dude good at kissing and rubbing titties. We need our baller back.

        • MB30SD

          Dude, I’m with you!!! GET WHITE BACK ON THE FIELD!!!

          how fucking funny is that pic? It’s fucked up, but I crack up every time I see it.

        • MB30SD

          I like rubbing titties

  • BearDown100393

    Kevin White has a spiral fracture. He may never play another down.

  • Bender McLugh

    Agreed on the WR & RB groups, I really like where they stand as long as Jeffrey is re-signed.

    • willbest

      Royal shouldn’t be on the team next year if we aren’t going to be pushing for a super bowl (age vs. Cost/value). The betting lines is that white never amounts to anything, and Jeffery can leave at his own discretion. That leaves a young promising work in progress in Cam. There is very little to like about our WR situation.

      • MB30SD

        illogical last sentence and not like you. with jefery, bellamy, wilson, royal and white… we’re 100% better off than most teams. Now TE and Qb, that’s another story.

        • BearDown100393

          I’m not convinced Alshon Jeffery wants to stay in Chicago.

          • MB30SD

            would you?

          • BearDown100393

            And miss out on a Super Bowl parade?

        • willbest

          In the context of 2017:

          Royal will be 31 and he is massively injury proned. He won’t get a
          contract extension, at which point he is a 1 year rental for $5
          million. That seems absurd if you aren’t going to compete. We won’t if
          we move on from Cutler.

          Wilson has never played more than 10
          games in a season, and he isn’t special when he is on the field. He
          doesn’t play special teams. If he is on the team next year Jeffery won’t be, and that is simple roster math.

          If they resign Jeffery (and that isn’t a given since he has to want to stay in Chicago and Pace has to pay him 14-15 million a year) the WR core looks like:

          WR1 – Jeffery
          WR2 – Meredith
          WR3 – Bellamy
          WR4 – White
          WR5/6 – special team contributors

          If they don’t resign Jeffery we are looking at a bottom 16 WR core, and even with him its probably around 10ish.

          • MB30SD

            none of that matters without a QB who’s worth a shit. Rebuild time! (again)

      • Bender McLugh

        completely disagree. Gotta bet on a winner not just the odds my man

  • willbest

    I think you are being a dramatic. Cutler’s starting on his current NFL contract next year unless he demonstrates he can no longer throw a football. Even if he put in one of his down years he would still pull Fitzpatrick money. Now consider that his current deal is offering him little more than Fitzpatrick money the next 2 years, with no long term commitment (ie. If you signed him as a FA you are going to have to put up 25 mil guaranteed) and trading for him becomes a big consideration if you can pick him up for a pair of 3rds.

    • BerwynBomber

      Mostly agree, but just remember two things. 1) As of right now, Fitzpatrick will never see Fitzpatick money ever again. 2) When you think of Cutty’s current salary as being fair market value or even good you’re invariably comparing it to the known bad contracts like Romo’s, Eli’s, Flacco’s. But there are also good elite contracts (Rodgers, Brady, Wilson’s, etc), not to mention guys in Culter’s own quality field that are even better deals (Smith, Dalton, etc). Plus, you have a lot of kids playing well for cheap (Semien, Wentz, Prescott, etc).

      • willbest

        Well the cheap people can only be on 1 team. Its a supply and demand thing. Now the Broncos might be willing to trade Siemian (and the pats Jimmy G) but their affordability factors into their trade value. Siemian is working for peanuts plus his age and will thus will probably command a 1st and a 2nd. Jay Cutler’s FMV contract on the other hand might command a 2nd & 3rd (if he finishes the year strong) and a 4th (if he finishes weak and the Bears want to get something before cutting him).

        Everybody has their pros and cons. And Cutler’s 15 million (less 2.5 million if he spends most the year injured) is not even the same risk as Oz’s or Bradford’s contracts.

        And sure you can go pay Hoyer or Foles or Keesum $5-8 million to start and if you have a dominant D that could work for you. But then you get what you pay for.

        Right now I peg Cutler as the 5th best option for teams needing a QB next season, and 8-9 teams needing to solve their QB situation. 2 draft QBs, Romo, and Siemian in front of him, though the situation is fluid. For example, Romo might take the hint and retire. Jimmy G might have an opportunity to show he is more than a Darth Hoodie phantom. Perhaps Kaep looks better after knocking off rust, etc.

  • MB30SD
    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Didn’t watch because youtube on my phone no longer allows me to skip the adds. Is this a new thing or just an AT&T thing?

      • MB30SD

        ATT sucks trac

    • Bender McLugh

      Liv Tyler…..yes please!

      • MB30SD

        jeees

  • BerwynBomber

    If they draft a QB in the early rounds, it is unlikely they would keep both Cutler and Hoyer simply because that would require them to keep 3 QBs on the 53 throughout the course of the season.

  • BearDown100393

    Is there a college QB on the radar now who will be available in the upcoming draft worth a look?

    • The Walking Double Standard

      Only if he can play DB or DT

      • Sactowns#1

        I would take OL as well.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      The rebuild won’t be over until the end of next year. We play Cutty for 1 more year then pull the trigger on drafting our QB of the future. That’s if the Cubs are allowed to win the world series.

      #backtothefuture

  • willbest

    Schwarber is expected to DH tonight. Crazy.

    • Bender McLugh

      we’ll see if he’s got his timing, if he does look out

      • CanadaBear

        I read he hit a double, walked, scored a run and hit a couple of other pitches on the button. Granted that’s minor leaguers.

        • willbest

          Yeah thats like when I play my kid in Mario Kart while I have the flu.

          • CanadaBear

            True enough but at least he has some timing. Those kids in the AFL throw hard just not polished at that point in their careers. No doubt the breaking/off speed stuff is not consistent, along with control. It’s gonna be interesting. Too bad he won’t play at Wrigley other than as a pinch hitter.

    • 505Bears

      First game back is a WS game? Not sure about that strategy, but best of luck to the Cubs. I am an A’s fan, so I have no room to talk about anything championship wise.

    • Since Lester is pitching, Ross is playing catcher.

      Thus I’d start Contreras over Schwarber as DH.

      Contreras is on fire in the playoffs, batting .400 with 1 HR, 4 RBI, and 4 runs scored in 20 at bats. Keep that bat in the game, use Schwarber as a super sub bat for big pinch-hitting situations late in the game.

      • willbest

        Your logic seems sound to me. I wouldn’t start him if I were Joe, but then if I were Joe, Cubs wouldn’t be playing in the WS.

  • Goin to Hell with Pernell (GP)

    Hey Waffle, Cutler is available in FF. You need to start his ass.

    • Bender McLugh

      he’s worth a roster spot as a QB2

      • Goin to Hell with Pernell (GP)

        QB1 baby! HOF!

    • Go for it Waffle, wouldn’t it be something to take down the champ, current #1 and Destroya bus driver with Cargo Cutty!?

      Do it…it was meant to be…

      • Also, in a Bear-league, I would suggest throwing considerable cash to make sure you get him.

      • The Walking Double Standard

        oh, it’s been done sir.

  • willbest

    bah… wrong page. Anyway

    I presume Brown is going to end up in the same cave AP did. Not going to excuse his shit actions. And he needs to atone for that, but the best way to do that isn’t to dump him in a hole to forget about. Its to study him to figure out how to better identify people like him, preferably before they turn to violence.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Verrrry interestink comrade….verrry interestink…..

    • Huge Bears Penis

      nope put him in a hole with a rabid squirrel, check on him every couple weeks just to make sure the squirrel is still alive, replace if not.

      • willbest

        Wouldn’t cloning Brown to feed a rapid squirrel get expensive?

        • Huge Bears Penis

          who said anything about cloning Brown? replace the squirrel if its dead, not brown.

  • willbest

    A few points

    1) The Noon/late games haven’t been all that much more watchable, but they at least have the advantage of being teams people care about.

    2) One SNF and One MNF games were hosed by debates. Which would increase the drop off a couple points when averaging.

    3) TNF has had 2 games that were NFLN only, where last year the first 8 games were CBS simulcast. That will affect the averages until the end of season can be analyzed.

    I find the difference between NFC which is on Fox (-1%) and AFC which is on CBS (-8%) interesting. Though I can’t speculate as to why that would be the case.

  • BerwynBomber

    Last two night games have been fine. DEN/HOU was a decent affair and ARI/SEA was memorable and thrilling.

    The league is also going through a transition with its QB stars. No more Peyton. Brady out the first four games. Rodgers now mortal. Brees aging and stuck on a franchise that makes the Bears look NE-esque. R-berger injured though probably never a big draw anyways.

    Once the Wentzes, Daqs and Carrs establish themselves ratings will pick up again. Winston and Mariota may be thrown in the mixt too, but with the former I worry about TOs and with the latter a fucked up franchise.

    But there is no doubt a majority of island games have been sub-standard.

    • willbest

      I suspect the NFL is going to have to fight inertia. This weekends prime time games were solid, but after 6 weeks of mostly garbage are you going to watch?

    • I think the product overall is inferior compared to prior years, and it may be due to limited practice reps (see above below).

      Also, the one thing all fanbases agree on is that Roger is a fucktard and needs to be gone. I seriously think if they dump Roger, the ratings will go up instantly (this also implies changes to some rules and policies which turns off many fans)

  • I heard some guy on ESPN make a good point about the current state of football.

    He made the argument that the product is waterdowned now due to limited practice.

    This is esp true when it comes to Oline play, which he pointed out, was a ‘rep position’. More than any unit, these guys need reps to improve technique to be able to handle much more athletic opposition (or as he put it, guys like Von Miller who wake up running 4.4)

    This can ONLY be done in pads.

    Since they can’t practice as much in pads, their tech suffers, and they end up whiffing, going backwards, or most likely, holding, which in turn equates to negating plays and putting offenses in the hole on down and distance, which only gives even more of an advantage to the Dline.

    This also leads to the proliferation of annoying dink-dunk or read-option Os to counter the oline disadvantage.

    Long gone are the days of the old Raiders vertical bombs or Greatest Show on Turf 5-7 step precision drops which are a bit more exciting.

    I thought the Bears were poorly coached, esp with all those Oline penalties, but I’ve watched a lot of other teams this season, and holding penalties prolific, and just bad oline play in general.

    Limited practices also notably affects back-qb play as we know first hand when Barkley not only sucks, but is terribly unprepared when called upon.

    Anyways, thought I would share cuz I considered it an interesting theory that seems to be true.

    • BerwynBomber

      Gruden made that point last night on the HOU/DEN telecast: lack of practice is damaging the quality of product.

      • I think most coaches would agree cuz naturally they would practice you on Christmas if given the chance.

        But it’s true nonetheless.

        Now that I step back and see the NFL trends, it just might all be related to limited practice and bad Oline play.

        Even the trend of “running back by committee” might be a reaction to trying to help struggling run games by getting “fresher” bodies in there.

        In the past with better Oline push, a HB just needed to find a groove and that back would dominate.

        Now, since Olinemen can’t get push, there’s a lot more teams going with that “scat back” to try to outflank the Dline screaming backfield.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Excellent post butch. I agree 100 %.

    • BearDown100393

      This is spot on. And it go beyond the NFL.
      Players now just play and practice less.
      High school and college also limited.
      And the shame is that athleticism has obviously improved.

      • Anyone who played Basketball knows this.

        I played Varsity Bball, and we went up against this one rich school with like 5 Larry Birds.

        We were way more athletic than them, but they spanked us.

        They were just a machine, and we were horribly coached so doing a lot of ad lib shit that got us destroyed.

        Now, if you get 5 random white dudes on a playground against our same team, then they would’ve got creamed.

        In a pick-up type game with no practice, the more athletic have a decided advantage.

        The same happened when me and two of my buds used to play together all the time.

        I was the point, my friend the power and the other the “center” (he was only like 5’11” but knew how to box, post, pass, use leverage, etc).

        We were so used to each other, it was telepathic and we would usually win against 3 guys who just got a team together, even though they were taller and faster.

        That’s how I imagine the Oline play suffering, and with it, everything else.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    So this…this just isn’t what a starting quarterback who believes he has the coach’s confidence says. ”

    Why not?

    It’s true, isn’t it?

    • willbest

      Kind of a dick thing to imply about Barkley, but is he supposed to tell a blatant lie?

    • Cutler has always been somewhat sarcastic. I guess I would have to see his tone, like if he were smiling or just being flippant.

      But obviously Cutty is on thin ice going forward, perhaps not this season cuz we don’t have Hoyer or Shaw anymore, but next.

      • The Walking Double Standard

        “He doesn’t have a choice, I guess, at this point,” Cutler said, via Rich Campbell of the Chicago Tribune. “Brian is out, so I’ve got to go. I’ve had good conversations with Foxy this week, last week, the week before. There’s never been any strain in our relationship. We’re both very open and honest, and we’re on the same page. We just want to win football games.”

        • BearDown100393

          “Brian is out, so I’ve got to go.”
          I’m fired up.

          • MB30SD

            hahahaha

      • BearDown100393

        He can do whatever he wants now.

    • BearDown100393

      It must get tiring to rescue jobs for the coaching staff.

  • willbest

    What is our expected O-line? Leno-Larsen-WH-Kush(?)- Massie … oy vey

    • wonder how long Sitton and Long are out.

      They didn’t put Long on IR, so he’s apparently not done for the year. Which is dumb, IMO. You know he needs surgery eventually. You’re 1-6. Get surgery now so we don’t get McPhee 2.0 and he misses the 1st half of next year.

      • willbest

        times 1000

      • Lovie playing Lach all over again, but even worse – no chance at .500

      • AlbertInTucson

        Common sense approach but, as we all know, common sense isn’t so common these days.

      • BearDown100393

        We need Long for the playoffs.
        10-6

    • Does anyone know how Kush performed?

      • BearDown100393

        He was on the field.

  • willbest

    Heyward benched. Coghlan in.

    • The Walking Double Standard

      Heyward has lost all offensive confidence but you need his glove in the field.

      • willbest

        Maybe they bring him in if they get up.

      • CanadaBear

        At this point almost no pitcher throws anything but heat to him because he can’t catch up to it. He’s basically an automatic out. Great D replacement. He has to rework his swing in the offseason.

        • Huge Bears Penis

          he has been reworking his swing for the last 3 years, i am glad he didn’t resign with the Cardinals.

          • CanadaBear

            If he figures it out it’s an OK deal for the Cubs. If not, that’s a lot of money to pay to a really good outfielder that can’t hit.

      • BearDown100393

        Developed warning track power this season.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Kyle Schwarber added to the Cubs’ WS roster.

      Replaces a lefty reliever, Rob Zastryzny.

  • Goin to Hell with Pernell (GP)

    With Trump imploding, I heard Monica called Hillary.

    She told her not to Blow It.

    BOOM!

    • willbest

      That joke makes no sense, Huma got rid of her Weiner

  • willbest

    We waived Glenn, brought in Hurst.

  • The Walking Double Standard

    Cutty is going to play with the most massively internal chip on his shoulder of all time. The putrid shit he’s been through, the garbage OL, the pedestrian WR’s, the idiot OC’s and he gets shit on because he tried to play hurt.
    I can honestly say that I’ve had it with Chicago fans. Quite possibly the worst fans on the planet.
    Don’t be surprised at all if we beat the Vikings….and at the same time don’t be surprised if our D makes Bradford look like fucking Joe Montana and make Matt Asiata look like the most dominant running back in the league.

    I predict a win.

    • willbest

      So you are predicting Bears win 38-34?

      Ballzy

      • The Walking Double Standard

        I don’t know. I think the Minny D will come out guns blazing. I think we will either win or will lose because Minny will punt less than 3 times the whole game.

        I don’t think the O will be the issue. I think it will be the D getting torched and Kyle Rudolph getting a contract extension because of his performance.

        • SC Dave

          Guess you’re respecting Bradford these days thinking but three punts.

          Your excuse about the D is about a year behind the times.

          Now if Cutler can get us more first downs than Barkley with less than three turnovers, I’m thinking we’ll be in it, in a low scoring game.

          And yes, I’ll watch. Maybe not live (its way too nice outside in SC in late October), but I will watch. And I will hope Jay kicks ass.

          But if he doesn’t, I won’t read your raving how it was EVERYONE else’s fault.

          • The Walking Double Standard

            Dave, with Bradford coming off one of the worst games I’ve ever seen you’d best believe that the OC of the Vikes is going to get the ball out quick, use crossing routes (our kryptonite) and abuse with the TE and with the deep ball.
            When teams fail it’s never one guys fault and is ALWAYS everyone’s fault.

          • MB30SD

            fucking whatsisface fucking publicly called his oline a buncha soft pussies. Dude does NOT fuck around. Love that shit

          • Johnnywad

            Zimmer

          • MB30SD

            jeeees

        • BearDown100393

          Bradford will be carted off the field.

          • MB30SD

            Prosinski is a fucking killer in cleats baby!

          • MB30SD

            or is it Bausby

          • MB30SD

            smmfh

    • CanadaBear

      You’ve gone over the edge Johnny. There are a ton of fans like me that stuck with him against our better judgement for 4-6 years. We aren’t just willy nilly jumping off the bandwagon. He pushed most of us off with all the TO’s and avg play.

      • The Walking Double Standard

        not over the edge man, just lost the zeal a bit because of the overall lack of quality players on the team. I for one simply refuse to pin that on Jay throwing an interception. If you can look at Cutler over the last 4 to 6 years and feel that he was the issue then I cannot and will not help you.

        • CanadaBear

          Didn’t say he was the issue. I said he’s not the answer. FFS he’s been here forever and we all know the results. It’s not going to happen here with the Beloved. It’s over after this season.

      • A lot of us were waiting and hoping.

        The thing is, you’re trying to be rational, meanwhile, here’s Waffle on the U.S.S. Cargo

        http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/kind_hearts_and_coronets.jpg

    • BearDown100393

      So do I.
      The Bears are going to destroy the Vikings. It will be a game long remembered. And it shall firmly reinstall Cutler as not just the franchise quarterback but rightfully cement his legacy as an elite quarterback.
      10-6.

  • Goin to Hell with Pernell (GP)

    Now the Giants release their kicker. Now that it is a PR disaster.

    WTG Rooney family!

  • The Walking Double Standard

    I’m going to let this go after this point but I find it extremely amusing that people feel ambivalent about the starting quarterback and franchise leader in virtually every passing category returning to the field.
    And with that, I’m going to enjoy the fuck out of the Cubs tonight. Party at my house.

    • CanadaBear

      I’ll take half that action! Go Cubs! Hope they bring home a winner.

    • SC Dave

      Meh. We’re 1 and 6, dude.

    • BerwynBomber

      Ambivalent? According to Blogfather’s poll from yesterday 65% want to see Cutler in a Bears uniform in 2017. What do you want? 99.999%?

      • BearDown100393

        Who believes in polls anymore?

        • 75% of ppl, according to the latest poll.

        • Sactowns#1

          It’s rigged. Jay probably got a bunch of illegals to vote for him. Sad. Everyone knows there’s a lot of polling fraud going on. A lot. Ask anyone. I encourage everyone to go to a computer and watch people take these polls. Because there are a lot, a lot of those kinda people out there, you know what I mean.

          • BearDown100393

            Bigly problem indeed.

    • Goin to Hell with Pernell (GP)

      Party with the Waffle-o. Waffle-meister. Makin copies…. Waffle-bonanzaaaaaaaa…..

      http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/copy-machine/n10022

    • BearDown100393

      Personally, I wept upon learning of the news.

    • Being the passing leader in CHI is like being the prettiest woman in Wisc. It ain’t saying much.

      And many, including Irish, swear McMahon was way better, but meh.

      It’s simple for fans really. He stops taking unnecessary sacks, carrying the ball like a loaf of bread to get stripped, and stops throwing soul crushing INTs, then that should be enough.

      If he really wants to impress, he’ll spread the ball around at the third highest comp % in the league while throwing for 300 yds and sustaining drives to rest the D.

      Enjoy the tradewind!

      • willbest

        I was about to scold you on Wisconsin, but when I pulled up the former Miss Wisconsin list I realized they have a distinctive nose. How have I never noticed that before?

        http://www.misswisconsin.com/formers.html

        • BearDown100393

          How did one win a pageant twice?

          • MB30SD

            it’s judged by NFL refs?

        • Sactowns#1

          2009- I mean really?

        • MB30SD

          collective 6.5!

          …I wish I had more hands, so I could give those titties four thumbs down!

          • willbest

            I don’t think they are allowed fake boobs in the state competitions

          • BearDown100393

            Unless it is a federal re-election

          • MB30SD

            sad

          • I actually like that policy.

            They should pass another one that requires them to be hotter than that frumpy friend who always wears sweats.

          • MB30SD

            ugggghhhh, and she’s ALWAYS the cockblock.

            No! NO! she CANNOT go home with you! She needs to come with us! I don’t care if she’s totally sober and 29… you are NOT taking her home even though she’s trying to pull away from me and basically blowing you on the dance floor!

            Yuck.

          • Jes. That one.

      • The Walking Double Standard

        checkdown mentality pumps stats and delivers nothing. Sorry, I watched those games and that cautious style didn’t do a fucking thing for the Bears. Not one fucking thing. Sarrry.

        • SC Dave

          When Cutler goes three and out over and over (unless he’s turning the ball over) and the defense gets no rest, you’ll of course blame them for the loss.

          Look at the Packers game. Close until Hoyer went out. After that, it looked exactly like the typical Cutler vs. Green Bay game. You know, the ones where the offense did nothing and the defense finally ran out of gas and got smoked late by Vadgers.

      • BerwynBomber

        Maybe the all-time Cutty moment was when he finally passed Luckman in either yards or completions in that blowout loss a few years back to PHI on SNF and the very next play he threw a 60 yard pick six. Pretty much summed up his CHI career in those two plays.

        • I actually think the two plays which might define his tenure in Chicago most weren’t even on the field.

          It was when he pushed Jwebb on the sideline (which he deserved), and when McPhee screamed at Cutty on the sideline (which he deserved).

          They’re nice bookend moments.

          I’ll give him this much – he did make it entertaining in the same way doing rails of coke and binging in Vegas makes things entertaining.

        • MB30SD

          Jup

      • Johnnywad

        Points are more impressive. I like points.

        • Which points are you referring to? The 14 points against the Eagles AND Texans?

          Bears SCORED more under Hoyer.

          #FACT

          http://www.chicagobears.com/gameday/schedule.html

          • BuddhaJoe

            You mean like the whopping 0 points the offense scored with Hoyer in Green Bay. Or how about the game before that? Or the Dallas game? JFC the shit these haters have to come up with is ridiculous.

          • It was a tight game. How many points did the mythical Rodgers have vs our beat up D while Hoyer was in?

            Those types of games happen in rivalries, but that’s beside the point.

            Hoyer SCORED MORE THAN CUTLER DID IN THE FIRST TWO GAMES.

          • BuddhaJoe

            He was 4-11 and no TDs. Fucking pathetic, if Cutler had done that you’d be calling for his head, oh wait you already were for less.

          • SC Dave

            You’re hopeless, dude. Did you read what you’re responding to?

          • BerwynBomber

            I’m convinced he’s Waffle’s nephew.

          • BuddhaJoe

            Kinda wish I knew who you’re talking about since apparently I’m gonna die alone on this hill. Oh well, I wish I would be able to enjoy being proven right next year when he’s gone but that would mean they suck again so I won’t. Hopefully the rookie they get can light it up.

          • BerwynBomber

            Nah, more Cutty lovers here than Cutty haters. And Waffle is the most passionate of the former. Just giving you some good-natured shit.

          • BuddhaJoe

            Yes I did, the D was finally showing up and our Cutler-less offense didn’t do shit, contrary to what everybody says should have happened without that “bum”. I just don’t get it man. It’s been proven again and again what this O does without Cutler and everybody still thinks he’s a problem. He turns the ball over more than you want but other than that he makes it work where nobody else has.

          • BuddhaJoe

            This same offense has had a less than 1/3 winning percentage without Cutler since he’s been here so pointing at him is fucking stupid.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, but much of that is weighted with Hanie and Pickles who were probably a combined 0-9. Hoyer and McCown are the only quality back-ups we have had.

          • BuddhaJoe

            They suck too though. Look at what McCown did in his “awesome” 3-3 stretch vs. mediocre teams. Look at Hoyer being completely unable to throw the ball more than 10 yards downfield , not to mention his multi-year history before this. They were both acceptable back-ups but that’s all. Hell, imagine where Eli, Flacco, or Ryan would be if they were getting sacked 6 times a game and throwing to the like of Earl Bennett and Devin Hester.

          • BerwynBomber

            If Eli and Flacco had our D and STs a few of those years they would have been in the playoffs. That is where they usually ended up with strong D and STs. Not so with Cutler.

            I believe McCown was 4-3. He’s nothing but a decent back-up but he played as well as Cutler if not better in ’13. Maybe a mirage, but hey, there it is.

          • BuddhaJoe

            I might agree with 2010 but I think that was about it. Urlacher falling off had a lot to do with the decline, but it is what it is. After that the D wasn’t the same. In 2012 it was OK, and they went 10-6 and just barely missed out. In 2013 he led one of the best O’s in the league but we were derailed by a franchise worst D. A lot of the so-called “better” QBs would have done even worse. Hell, the two years before this he was the only reason we won anything.

          • SC Dave

            Excuses, excuses.

            Cutler didn’t exactly tear up the league throwing to Marshall, Bennett, Jeffery, and Forte.

          • BearDown100393

            Too many night games. It messes up his blood sugar.

          • BuddhaJoe

            Well, other than having one of the top offenses in the league in 13, no he didn’t “tear it up”. Franchise worst defenses those years may have had something to do with it. He ain’t Brady, but point the finger where it belongs.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, he basically had two years of arguably the best set of skilled position receivers in the league (not to mention a decent line) and he still looked like Cutty.
            Btw, saying he’s better than Hoyer and McCown is fine. Of course he is. But this damn endless “if Jay had this, if Jay had that, if only Jay had” is beyond tiresome.
            If he is gone after this year, that is what I will miss the least, that and the Zapruder-like breakdown of the CHI media of everyone of his pics in apparent hopes of absolving him.

          • “If Jay had this, and that” was also the apology for Jeff George.

            $10M arm. 10cent brain. 1peso mechanic.

          • The Walking Double Standard

            Now you’re just making shit up. You were 7 when George was playing. Holy fuck.

          • Johnnywad

            So we’re just counting the six quarters then? And do we get to factor in the teams they faced or no?

          • Hoyer can’t choose who he plays.

            14 points! on top of more sacks, ints, and strips.

            The ONLY excuse Cutty could possibly have is if his thumb was was fucked up most of those games, but to me it looked more like his patented decision making.

          • Johnnywad

            He can’t choose who he plays, but you don’t have to ignore the fact that he played three of the worst defenses in the NFL.

          • “TERRIBLE DECISION” – Gruden (and anyone who has eyes)

            Cutler (backpeddling naturally) COMPLETELY didn’t see that defender underneath. Had nothing to do with the thumb.

            These are the fuckups we didn’t get from Hoyer

            edit. 7 whopping points going into 4rth

          • Johnnywad

            Or touchdowns

          • How many TDs did Cutty have going into 4rth in that game?

            ONE.

          • Johnnywad

            You mean against the #3 defense in the NFL with a quarter left to play with a damaged thumb on his throwing hand? LOL.

            I know Butch. You love Hoyer. But selecting six quarters to draw your comparison with is stupid.

            To be honest. I’m over all of it. I’m just fucking around to get you lathered up.

          • I don’t really love Hoyer as much as think it’s time to move on.

            That looked like vintage diabetes Cutty, not Gase Cutty.

            And look at that play. Cutler was OBLIVIOUS to that dude underneath. It’s not just 6 quarters. We have YEARS of seeing him do that.

            My hope was he didn’t revert. He reverted.

            Throw in the towel.

          • Johnnywad

            Hard to say. He threw several passes after the injury that were WAY low. I doubt that’s where he was headed with it. But either way, I’m over it. I’d still like to see Cutler come back and play well this year. Give me something to be interested in. Hoyer was boring and limp.

          • BuddhaJoe

            You mean in a a game and half, likely playing hurt for 1/2 of that time? How many passes longer than ten yards did Hoyer have that weren’t yards after carry. Don’t worry, I don’t have to wait for that answer. Jesus.

          • SC Dave

            Give it up Butch. The apologists ALWAYS fail to see reality, even when you post such obvious examples of Cutlerism.

          • The Walking Double Standard

            Jay played 1.5 games this season didn’t he? That’s the fucking sample size now? I know drive killing penalties and missed field goals only count for fucking Hoyer though.
            It’s lunacy.

          • SC Dave

            Did you watch the clip?

          • Johnnywad

            You mean the video of the INT? If so, yes. I saw it. The throw was way too low. The receiver has a chance to make the play if the ball is thrown higher. I contend the thumb injury impacted the throw. He had several throws prior to that one but after the injury that were crazy low.

            We’ll never know. It would not be the first time he’s thrown that ball either way.

          • SC Dave

            You’re right, we won’t know. I contend its the very same Cutler idiocy we’ve seen for eight years.

          • SC Dave

            Give it up Butch. The apologists ALWAYS fail to see reality, despite the facts.

          • The video is RIGHT there.

            TAPE DON’T LIE.

            Even Chucky who falls over himself blowing any QB muttered “terrible decision”

            Don’t get it.

            And I was for giving Cutty a chance this season based on what Gase did for him, but maybe he’s not good without him.

    • BuddhaJoe

      Well, you talking about people who wanted Hoyer and McCown as the starter, and if you’re talking about the idiots on the Trib boards, still think Ditka was a great coach. So, gotta take that with a salt lick.

  • BerwynBomber

    Glenn waived? Irish will be crushed.

    • BearDown100393

      End of an era.

      • willbest

        He will clear waivers, and it will be the beginning of the new Glenn era in a couple weeks.

        • BerwynBomber

          The Cheese might take a look at him. They’re presumably at the “willing to look at guys off the street” stage in regard to CB and RB.

          • MB30SD

            please do!

          • BearDown100393

            They should lock him up right now.

    • The immortal Hurst promoted from PS.

      I forgot if he was any good or not. Maybe it’s just for specials.

    • MB30SD

      fuck that guy. sucked balls. fucking ridiculous. on one play looked like he was dancing by himself. smmfh

      • MB30SD

        …uh oh uhoh

  • MB30SD

    hey shady….

    what did the 5 fingers say to the face?!

  • Teddy Ball Game says, “Fuck you Chicagoans, shove a braust down your mustachioed mouth and #34 jersy, and shut the fuck up”

    Joniak asked Phillips with the growing success of the Cubs and Blackhawks what the Bears are doing to keep everyone engaged with their brand during a period when they are trying to get things going in the right direction?

    “When we talk about appealing to sponsors, we never talk about wins and losses,” Phillips said. “A lot of the sales pitches that get done, they don’t talk about wins and losses. They talk about what the Bears mean to the city, the loyal fan base, the crossover of fans who are Bears fans and also fans of the other sports teams and I think for the most part we have had a lot of success doing that because people understand the power of the Bears brand and what it means to the city of Chicago, what it means to the NFL, what it means to their own
    brand. We’re pretty proud of that that you can kind of sustain strong business relationships without worrying about wins and losses. Obviously, when you win it’s better.”Perhaps that resonates at the corporate level but the fans no doubt do worry about the wins and losses and they do talk about wins and losses.

    Biggsy 10 thoughts

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-bears-packers-10-thoughts-biggs-20161021-story.html

    • MB30SD

      Oh my fucking god… someone curb that worthless fucking nerd. What a total cunt. Just when I thought I couldn’t hate that dickbag any more.

      Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia!

      • I can’t believe Teddy had the AUDACITY to say that shit aloud, ON RECORD, in a bears interview.

        Then he goes on to say how he envies other org who have sustained success like the Steelers.

        Yeah, Teddy, cuz they don’t have fucktards like YOU running their operations.

        JESUS MARY JOSEPH!

        • MB30SD

          I know man, how fucked is that. So fucking pissed.

          THAT…. RIGHT THERE, is the reason we’ve fucking sucked for so long. God damn it!!!!!

          Fucking ginny, fire his weak, pathetic, nerd pussy ass! Fuck!!!!

          • BuddhaJoe

            Too bad it’s the McCaskeys. She’s probably too worried about remembering who she is in the morning and the kids haven’t ever done shit, so they don’t know any better.

          • MB30SD

            Thasss the prollem with old moooneys maings… truuusss me, i knows

          • If I lived in Chicago, I would go to soldier field home games and just stand outside with a petition to fire teddy.

            Pass out that transcript word for word.

            For all you natives, make that shit happen.

          • MB30SD

            Dooooo eeeeeet!!!!

      • SC Dave

        Really, what a cunt.

    • BearDown100393

      This should surprise no person somewhat familiar with the ownership’s dependency on this lunatic.

    • AlbertInTucson

      “…the loyal fan base…”

      Or, as Teddy says in private, “The Suckers”.

    • AlbertInTucson

      “…the fans…talk about wins and losses.”

      Not much talking about wins, Ted.

  • willbest

    Bad time for Lester to get the yips

    • BearDown100393

      He should practice throwing to first base instead of home plate during this spontaneous injury timeout.

  • BuddhaJoe

    Now that’s a (douchebag) coach:

    http://deadspin.com/former-indiana-player-alleges-bobby-knight-punched-him-1788206021

    Not that we didn’t already know that about the guy.

    • BearDown100393

      When in Indiana…

    • Maybe Bobby was checking for testicular cancer

      • BuddhaJoe

        All those priests in the church should’ve just told those boys to turn and cough and it would’ve been all OK.

        • MB30SD

          yeeeesh… too soon

  • willbest

    I love how this is allowed in baseball.

    • BearDown100393

      Should cost the Indians a challenge.

  • BearDown100393

    Trump vs Biden in a bare knuckle brawl.
    Make it happen.

    • MB30SD

      I’m in!

  • Johnnywad

    Rizzo sure air humps the shit out of the plate while he waits for the pitch.

  • willbest

    He’s back

    • BearDown100393

      Was it Rose or Thomas who predicted 3 more Ks?

  • SC Dave

    From Da tool’s column on Da Site:

    Since the hiring of Marc Trestman, it seems that when the Bears
    take a lead into halftime they end up losing the game. What is the Bears
    record in those situations?

    Omar H.
    Chicago

    The
    Bears are only 1-2 when leading at halftime this season, but they were
    8-1 in Marc Trestman’s two seasons and 4-1 last year under John Fox. In
    Lovie Smith’s nine seasons, the Bears were 58-10 when leading at the
    break.

    • MB30SD

      we are soooo gud this year!

      • Huge Bears Penis

        stats don’t lie

  • AlbertInTucson

    Kevin White presents a challenge? Not to defenses. He looked liked he’d lost a step BEFORE he broke the leg again this year.

  • willbest

    Good lord Cubs, you can’t strand 3 on base. A shame they didn’t throw Kyle out. Would have at least got one.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Game 2. Go Cubbies!! World Series this year, Superbowl next year.

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