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Quick Thoughts on NFL Draft, Bears, NFC North

| May 4th, 2016

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Right after the NFL draft is always a dangerous time to be optimistic because everybody is (except Browns fans). But there is reason to feel positive about the Bears right now and that is because they have guys who have done this before.

I didn’t like the Leonard Floyd pick. In general, I don’t like skinny football players. I didn’t have him in my Bears Big Board because I didn’t think he fit the physical profile for either John Fox or Vic Fangio, both previously preferring bulkier pass-rushers. But Fox has been around for “a minute,” as he says, and he knows what good pass rushers look like. If he signs off on Floyd, who am I to argue?

It wasn’t just Fox and Fangio who liked him. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel’s Bob McGinn once again polled scouts this year and Floyd came up first in terms of total votes amongst 3-4 outside linebackers, ahead of Joey Bosa and Shaq Lawson.

The mistake everyone in the general public makes is thinking we know everything or, really, thinking we know anything. It wasn’t just that Floyd was skinny, but I didn’t think he was athletic for his size. What I didn’t know is that his time in the three-cone drill was useless because he was sick that day — a nearly five-inch drop in his vertical from the combine to his pro day shows how much impact that could have. I also didn’t know the Bears had a 40-yard dash time of 4.46 seconds on Floyd. I was told that after the draft and that’s the time they have on his draft preview video on the team website. The 40 time itself doesn’t mean that much, but a faster 40 also means a faster 10-yard split. Add that in with his impressive jump numbers and agility drills and you see a freak athlete. The kind of athlete who sacks the quarterback a lot.

More notes: 

• Pace mentioned length roughly 1,875 times during the media sessions after the draft picks. I seem to remember at least one person writing that was going to be an important part of the evaluation process. Don’t remember who it was.

• I had Shaq Lawson higher than Floyd because I thought he had a higher floor as someone who at the very least could be a good run defender. I didn’t get the impression the Bears cared about how big Floyd is. They’re confident he’s going to get 10 sacks a season and they didn’t think they’d get that from someone else. As for run defense, they have two 330-pound defensive linemen to take care of that.

• Look at the entire first round. Take out the offensive linemen drafted and 22 of the 24 players taken in the first round were taken because of their impact on passing downs. The result was a lot of good defensive linemen dropping to the second round. The Alabama guys are both high first round picks just a year ago, but the NFL is changing. It’ll be interesting to see if this becomes a trend.

• If the Bears didn’t take Floyd, I was told Sheldon Rankins would’ve been their pick.

• As soon as Cody Whitehair was drafted, I figured he’d be the starter at left guard. I thought Matt Slauson would move to center, but the Bears clearly don’t think he’s athletic enough. Again, they’re not alone. In McGinn’s pole amongst NFC North scouts at the end of last season, Slauson was voted last amongst left guards.

• Jonathan Bullard just looks the part. He has the body of a star defensive lineman and has the athletic upside that most of this year’s class didn’t have.

• The Nick Kwiatkoski pick makes perfect sense. Jerrell Freeman is 30 and Danny Trevathan has a long injury history. Kwiatkoski is very similar in that he’s athletic, good in space and should be good in coverage. Like with Floyd, the Bears aren’t going to ask their linebackers to take on blocks.

• I fully expect Deon Bush to start at safety next to Adrian Amos. As I said before the draft, the Bears want safeties who can run and hit. Now they have two who can do so.

• I understand the concerns about the lack of depth and top-line talent the Bears have in the secondary, but don’t underestimate Ed Donatell. He had a fifth rounder and two UDFAs playing a lot in the secondary last year and the Bears were fourth in passing defense. Fourth. I have no idea what to expect from Bush, Deiondre’ Hall or DeAndre Houston-Carson this year, but I’d be surprised if at least one didn’t make a big impact this year and two didn’t play well.

• Jordan Howard is perfect for the Bears and the Bears are perfect for Jordan Howard. Dude is pure power, to the point that he can’t handle a full load. He and Jeremy Langford should compliment each other very nicely.

• Daniel Braverman is Wes Welker. But Welker wasn’t good without Tom Brady. I think he redshirts this year and then we’ll reevaluate a year from now.

• I try not to overevaluate the draft too much, but I don’t think the Vikings got better. Laquon Treadwell is fine, but he’s not going to be able to create separation and they have a quarterback who doesn’t make tight throws. Mackensie Alexander is a fine prospect, but he won’t play for two years unless they have a major injury. I don’t see anyone else who helps them. This is the first time in a long time I can remember feeling that about the Vikings draft.

• The Packers always have at least one impact rookie. Kenny Clark will start and be an upgrade over B.J. Raji, but did they move the needle other than that? Jason Spriggs won’t play unless there’s an injury. Kyler Fackrell will be their fourth edge. They needed an inside linebacker and more depth on the defensive line. I don’t think Blake Martinez or Dean Lowry helps them.

• It’s funny seeing the Bears and Packers run a very similar defense, yet have completely different values when it comes to player evaluation. The Packers don’t care about length.

• I tip my cap to the Lions for the work they’re doing in the trenches. I wanted A’Shawn Robinson to be a Bear. A foot injury pushed him back, but I think he’s going to be a stud.

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  • Trac

    252
    8/2016
    1600
    ______
    416
    400
    ______
    16
    16
    ______
    0

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      huh?

    • Bender McLugh

      common core method for “100 minus 100”?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Hahaha

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Is this one of those Da Vinci Code puzzles?

      • MB30SD

        Jesus and the rapture

        …final answer!

        • Trac

          Jesus = Hail Zeus.
          Rapture=UFO abductee’s.

          Just sayin.

          • MB30SD

            Dude, you’ve gone off te deep end… or your meds?

            You ok… seriously.

          • Trac

            None of the above my man. No doubt some of the info I’m coming across is and sharing is shocking but let me say this….There is NO get out of jail free card my man and the rabbit hole goes very deep.

          • MB30SD

            Ooooookaaaaaay

      • Johnnywad

        I think it’s some kind of code. And with the decoder ring, you’d see that TRAC HAS LOST HIS DAMN MIND!!!!

        WTF Trac?

        • MB30SD

          I’ve been worried about this for a few weeks now. Trac, what’s up dude… did jebus come talk to you??

          Do I need to text murph one of my cock pics to text to you (and keep for himself for his quiet alone times) to snap you out of this?

          • Johnnywad

            Nothing would cure him faster. It’s like Chicken Soup for the Soul.

          • MB30SD

            Nah, more like a big bucket of ice water on the head while you’re peacefully sleeping.

            …a very very small bucket

        • Picnics with the Yakuza

          wtf was with Tom Hanks mullet in that movie?

        • Trac

          Hahaha. Not really but I have no idee what you could mean. (;

      • Cormonster

        It’s straight out of Louis Farrakhan’s “Math for Dummies”.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Well, 252 times 8 is 2016, this year. subtract 1600 from 2016 (for some reason) and you get 416. Subtract 400 (coincidentally a quarter of 1600) from 416 and you get 16, subtract 16 from 16 and you get 0.

      16 x 16 = 256, so that’s not relevant, unless you subtract 4 from it.

      I give up … Doc ?

      • Trac

        Lol

        • Irish Sweetness

          Yep, that’s prolly what my Math’s profs did in college, Trac. I always tried to be inventive in my failures at math.

      • Doc Nitty

        Fuck if I know.

    • SC Dave

      16-0

      • Trac

        Jesssss!!!! There are 8 quarters in a 2 dimensional football game. Unfortunately, Lovie never knew this.

        • Doc Nitty

          Now I understand why you hold mysticism in higher regard than rationalism.

          (Just playin, playa)

          • Trac

            Nationalism is a double edged sword. The Nazi’s are proof of this.

          • Doc Nitty

            r-r-rationalism. Not nationalism. rationalism.

            I know you know.

          • Trac

            Jess. I agree.

  • The Yes Guy

    Yes?

  • Bender McLugh

    Revisionist history on Welker there, Andrew.

    “Daniel Braverman is Wes Welker. But Welker wasn’t good without Tom Brady.”

    Welker’s 1st year in Denver, in 13 games: 73rec on 111 targets, 778 yards 10 TD’s.

    Yeah, he SUCKED.

    • Andrew Dannehy

      That was with Peyton Manning. If that’s your response, you completely missed the point.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Pace on the draft. Says BPA was the plan the whole way … with the distinct exception of the second round, in which BPA was ignored TWICE.

    This blinkered thinking is strange. Suppose in the third round, the BPA is a QB, by a squidgeon, over the next few players…. who could be DEs or DBs. Where is the sense in picking players arbitrarily based upon subjective scores … when mere degrees away on the scale are players that you actually NEED.

    Sounds like they really like the white LB

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU3q4pSf1ZU

    • Bender McLugh

      I think Pace had Whitehair rated higher than all the other DE’s on the board at that point and he knew he could nab him later. I really wonder if he had Whitehair rated higher than Spriggs too.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’ve just been reading their comments on him, apparently when Whitehair gets a hold of your pads, that’s it.

        “He’s an aggressive player,” Pace said of Whitehair on Friday. “He’s really good in space. He plays with great inside hand placement and he’s got strong hands. I love offensive linemen with strong inside hands. When they latch on you can’t get rid of him. He’s a very difficult player to shed once he gets his hands on your chest.”

        They figured Slauson was too slow, it wasn’t age, Ramirez is 33.

        We’ve got JJ Watt in week 1, we’ll know more then.

        • Bender McLugh

          BOOM.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Man I wish they scheduled division games first. I am so much more pumped to the kickoff for the season. Out of conference games sometimes feel flat out of the gate.

          • True, but the Texans are a decent litmus test.
            We played the Donkeys ok considering, and I see Texans in the same mold even with the same QB and his ‘downward’ spirals.

            Also, division games worth more, so if we lose early on , not as big a deal.

            We have MANY knew faces. Texans will be a nice test run.

    • BerwynBomber

      BPA was in play in taking Floyd over Tunsil? Color me dubious.

      • BC

        If you look at the entirety of the evaluation it’s possible. Some teams factor in character when they grade. So if the gas mask incident brought his character grade from a B to a D or F then that would drop his overall grade.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I read one guy – not a journo, but a scout I think – who said Tunsil’s ‘drop’ had nothing to do with a tweet sent ten minutes before the draft. The NFL has professional scouts. His doobie-ness was well known to one and all. The only people who found that surprising were the fans. so he was BPA with a red flag, just as Jaylon Smith and Myles Jack were.

        • MB30SD

          As opposed to all the molly knownness for elliot and bosa?!?!

          #iamstillMBspuzzledamazement

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Not the ones who were paying attention. The connection to Nkemdieche’s incident with the poooolice was pretty public knowledge.
          I’m just shocked it was enough to drop his stock like that.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            that incident everyone threw Nkemdieche under the bus for bringing up Tunsil’s name?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Yep.

    • BC

      A different highlight video of Kwitakowski (sp?) described him as “an accountant racking up tackles” which makes him a man after my own heart.

      • Bender McLugh

        “Quiet-cow-skee” (Kwiatkoski) instead of “quit-a-cow-skee” I believe.

        Dude’s a bit thin for us though, no?
        https://www.strava.com/pros/1905161

        • MB30SD

          He’s a production machine and will be an instant ST contributor… if he sees the field at imlb, we’re proper fucked already

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Timu 2nd year. Get ready. Always need a Samoan lb on the roster.

          • MB30SD

            I’m all in… as relief /emergency.

            Nothing would make me happier than tre and free never leaving the field all year.

            #reeeallinebackeeeers!!!!

        • He’s a white converted S projected to the ILB.

          What’s not to like!

          He’s the hybrid S/LB Yonny was clamoring for.

          Although he’s white, which must inspire conflicting feeling in him.

      • MB30SD

        Hahaha

    • MB30SD

      I haven’t seen a single ‘expert’ give us less than a B+ for this draft, and I’ve seen 2 ‘experts’ rate us as having the 4th best draft out of 32 teams.

      How many of angelo/emerys drafts were seen as that?

      Or course nothing means anything until football is actually played so we’re all just blowing smoke at this point.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      haha, Henry and Ward were not considered BPA. I know you weren’t referring to them but I just wanted to throw it out there just in case you were.

  • BC

    Andrew RE: Length — “I seem to remember at least one person writing that was going to be an important part of the evaluation process. Don’t remember who it was.” Was it you Andrew, I know it wasn’t Jeff because he was more concerned with girth.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      We know it was Andrew because if Pace has mentioned it 1,875 times, then Andrew has him beat by a couple.
      Good lord, we get it, let it go.

      • MB30SD

        Rumor has it that Andrew likes length AND girth.

        • Picnics with the Yakuza

          As does Rodgers. NTTAWWT.

          • MB30SD

            Indeed. To each his own!!

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          rumor has it that MB is trying to find Andrew’s grinder profile…. NTTAWWT.

          • MB30SD

            Trying?!?!!

          • Irish Sweetness

            I will surmise that Grinder is an app/site which caters primarily for steel workers, patrons of the Blue Oyster …. wearers of handlebar moustaches … and the Village People. To wit, homosexuals.

            NTTAWWT.

          • MB30SD

            Indeed… I’ve heard, I’VE HEARD!!!

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    So I don’t know if we’re better off having drafted Floyd.
    But Floyd is better off for us having drafted him.

    Fun fact: Had #Bears first rounder Leonard Floyd stayed at Georgia for his senior year his defensive coordinator would have been Mel Tucker— Adam Hoge (@AdamHoge) May 3, 2016

    • MB30SD

      Holy. Lottery. Win.

      Jesus, I can think of no other worse punishment.

      And what in thee fuck… how does that shitbag keep getting work?!?!?!

      • unbelievable, isn’t it?

        I wouldn’t even hire him to coach a good HS program.

        • MB30SD

          The levels of football cronyism is disgusting … but not unlike any other big biz

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    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      OH JESUS!!!! I have a feeling there will be a mass exodus on biblical proportions at Georgia.

    • Johnnywad

      That would have been a Matt Leinart type pay cut.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Whitlock and Cowherd debate show coming soon?
    So gross.

    • MB30SD

      No thanks. Jesus

    • AlbertInTucson

      I pass.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    AD says Packers don’t care about their ILB position, value cornerbacks.
    Packers have had first round picks playing at least one of the ILB positions since 2003.
    They care.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Shouldn’t teams, I don’t know, value EVERY position? A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. I would have trouble with a professional football team that looks with disdain upon an entire position. Even in chess, a lowly pawn can turn into a queen, the most powerful piece on the board.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        That was the Bucs philosophy when they traded up to get a kicker in the 2nd round.
        They nicknamed him Khaleesi already.

        • Irish Sweetness

          For real? They called him after a chick?

      • That Guy

        Yes, but you have to decide how to allocate resources. No team can afford an All Pro at every position, but every team can afford to pay for at least a couple of really good players. So you create a strategy of where you’re willing to commit lots of resources and where you think you can get good value.

    • Andrew Dannehy

      AJ Hawk was a first round pick as a 4-3 outside linebacker and was a terrible inside linebacker. Matthews played there because they couldn’t find anyone else who was capable, they don’t want him there and he doesn’t want to be there. Another year and only a mid-round pick invested in the position.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        So, I’m right and you’re still wrong.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        They valued it enough to move their most talented defender out of position to fill it, rather than just plugging in JAG. Barnett, Hawk, Matthews. And the year prior, it was Nickerson on a one year 1.5 million contact when that was not inexpensive.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Don’t eat the carne asada, yo…
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15455007

    • Irish Sweetness

      Very precise about keeping all of his receipts isn’t he? Do folk write off all the food they eat against their taxable income?

      • willbest

        Just 50% of it

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        if he is claiming a “business” trip then keep all those receipts. most players have some sort of business or charitable organization in their name. Or it could be by force of habit, my guess is they keep all receipts for all road games because of the crazy state taxes they have to pay.

        • BC

          That’s why if I were a FA, I would sign with HOU, TEN or JAX. You get 10/16 games guaranteed to have no state taxes. If you happen to play against DAL, SEA or TB in a given season, that’s a bonus 11th tax free game. POW! Suck it taxes! Although you’d have to suffer playing for a crappy franchise but your division isn’t tough and SAVINGS! I’m the Kwiatkoski of this blog…hopefully I don’t get cut!

          • CanadaBear

            I pay higher taxes in Canada. Sometimes you get what you pay for.

          • willbest

            We actually have a rather high tax structure in the US. Depending on the year and deductions, I pay 38-43% of my gross income to the federal, state, local government in the form of income, licensing, self-employment, cap gains, property, sales, use, fees. And I don’t think I have ever been in the top 5% of household income.

            Most people have no idea how much they actually pay in taxes because the government breaks it up and hides it from them as best as possible. Even going so far as suing retailers that try to itemize taxes the on their receipts. A full third of your telecom bill is a tax either directly stated or indirectly applied. Its why Romney can get in trouble with his 47% of taxes. Even people that manage to zero out their federal income tax can still be sending 25-30% of their gross income to the government in some form.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But the truly rich can just Panamize it …..

            I pay a flat 105 but I get paid peanuts.

            {That’s cos you’re a monkey, Irish!}

            (shrugs)

          • BC

            You’re exactly right, you get it from everywhere as an individual and even more if you’re a small business owner.

          • CanadaBear

            The friendly service makes it all worthwhile.

          • Irish Sweetness

            You have to pay tax depending on what STATE you played the game in that week???

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            yep and several states have what is called ‘Jock’ tax where they are taxed at a higher rate than people who live in the state.

    • CanadaBear

      Alberto Contador had wins at the Giro d’Italia (Tour of Italy) and the Tour de France taken away from him for testing positive for clenbuterol. The powers in bicycling didn’t buy the tainted meat story. Just sayin’.

      • MB30SD

        Berto!!!

        • CanadaBear

          I love guys that will animate a race. Bertie and Nibs will both take chances to blow a race apart. Guys like Froome that race negatively bore the shit out of me. Nothing against him, just don’t like that type of racing.

          This really points out the difference in drug testing between the sports. Bertie is one of the biggest names in cycling and they took him down due to a minute amount of clen. The NFL will probably give this one the big ole!

    • willbest

      What the hell do they feed their cows down there?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Clenbuterol apparently.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          And alot of it. Growth enhancer for cows.

    • Scharfinator

      This is really the best cover to start taking steroids in the NFL. Buy steroid riddled meat, say it did it, then if they catch you, you can stop.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    Trac Daddy:

    Breathe. The Donald is not the anti-Christ. Take a toke, sit back and put on some Joe Walsh:

    Sometimes I can’t help the feeling that I’m
    Living a life of illusion
    And oh, why can’t we let it be
    And see through the hole in this wall of confusion
    I just can’t help the feeling I’m
    Living a life of illusion
    Pow! Right between the eyes
    Oh, how nature loves her little surprises
    Wow! It all seems so logical now
    It’s just one of her better disguises
    And it comes with no warning
    Nature loves her little surprises
    Continual crisis
    Hey, don’t you know it’s a waste of your day
    Caught up in endless solutions
    That have no meaning, just another hunch
    Based upon jumping conclusions
    Caught up in endless solutions
    Backed up against a wall of confusion
    Living a life of illusion

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tiOMu_Bf8Q

    • willbest

      You know lost in all the Donald hoopla is the fact that Indiana felt the bern. And considering Obama won Indiana in 2008, that is saying something. I am going to enjoy MBHP’s new avatar.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Haha, good luck with that.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Yep, there’s something strange going on in Indiana. As a life long resident, Northwest Indiana is notorious with swinging Chicago’s way in voting, but hasn’t been the trend lately.

        • DaMurph

          That’s because years ago most of us were from Chicago, that demographic has changed so that’s why the voting swing.

      • BC

        There are medications they can take for that, unless it’s that Super Syphilis.

        http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.520.9157&rep=rep1&type=pdf

      • Bender McLugh

        Open Primary, Bernie usually wins

    • Trac

      I agree with you. He’s just a puppet. No worries mate.

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        Trump is not a puppet. He lives outside the beltway establishment and the banks don’t have their hooks in the guy. So they fear him and will cast him as a crazy.

        He’s a pussy hound. Can’t fault him for liking trim that much.

        I think he started this thing to boost tenancy in his buildings (Chicago Trump tower is largely empty with all the luxury condos) and sell steaks. But once he started winning, he couldn’t bring himself to stop. I think the establishment pissed him off.

        He knows he’ll be routed. But really, he wins. He’s a martyr and his legacy lives beyond his death. His kids will inherit the Trump towers and people will want to live there beyond him

        • Johnnywad

          I’m not even sure he loses. I don’t know if Clinton will be able to deal with a guy that will say damn near anything. She may well end up looking quite vulnerable when they go toe to toe.

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            Depends where he is willing to go in debates.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m no fan of Shillary but she won’t fold up like a wet taco like most of the repubs did in the debates. There’s a reason that’s where boners go to die.

          • Trac

            True, she’s a communists communist but she’s only facing trump in order to be cannon fodder. Even the Bilderbergs can’t stand her.

          • willbest

            Stop she is a Cronyist not a Communist. She doesn’t even want to pretend nationalize industry.

          • Trac

            No you stop! You’re a liar!

          • Finally. We agree.

            I shall mark this day down on my calendar.

          • True. The narrative now is “oh, hillary is so conventional,the wildcard Trump will rattle her” even some rep talking head compared Hillary to the British army and Trump to the minute men.

            Paleaze.

            Hillary has been dealing with idiots and blowhards her whole life.If anyone knows how to deal with them, it’s a woman.

            You can say the Polish were unconventional when charging the Blitzkrieg with horses, but that didn’t exactly pan out.

            Hillary has a well-oiled machine that won’t get stumped by stupid naming calling.

        • willbest

          I don’t know about that. A friend of mine has a unit in Trump Tower and his neighbor wants to pay him about $250k more than its worth so that he can expand his unit. If there was so much room available he could just set up on a different floor.

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            I just looked at his vacancy rate. It’s 14%.

            It went way down after Sexy Rexy Grossman bought in

        • Trac

          He’s using nationalism to garner support which is an old trick. See who was Adolph Hitler for 6 million please Alex.

          • willbest

            Hitler’s goons were out disturbing other people’s rallies to silence the moderates ability to speak leaving his party as the only viable option.

            But by all means keep using Hitler. That way when a genuine Hitler rolls around nobody will believe them.

            And Trumps brand of nationalism is rather soft.

          • Trac

            Go back and research Hilter. He was a pawn and there’s a reason Trump reads Mien Kampf every night. Hitler was not who he’s been characterized as in History. He was used to usher in WW2. Who do you think lent Germany the money to arm themselves? I don’t think you’re that stupid so who are you?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            He was used?

          • Trac

            Yeah Brownie. Follow Da monnay!

          • willbest

            So we go from a rumor that Trump once kept a book of Hitler speeches on his night stand to reading Mien Kampf nightly as if it were his personal Bible?

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Yeah, it’s ridiculous

          • Trac

            It’s not a rumor and I have not come to this conclusion because of that lone fact, that was only a hint of who Trump is. There’s a reason why History has been removed as a major from almost every American College. They, which I will simply refer to as “Kazarian Dogs” are getting ready to do a number on America. I’m trying to warn people. Crazy Uncle Trac ain’t so crazy. Do your own research.

          • willbest

            Well I am 10 more years away from buying my SHTF vineyard in Chile so as long as they wait to make their move until after then, I won’t care.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            So if I read Mein Kampf, does that make me a Hitler or Nazis supporter?

          • Trac

            No.

          • willbest

            Its hard to know what the rules are

          • Speaking of which, I had a sorta strange dilema like two weeks ago.

            So, I go to this club, and it’s pretty much like S&M, but not hardcore. Bascially, sluts wearing a lot of tight spandex, leather, ass and boobs popping.

            The theme was “Medical”, so u know, chicks in hot nurses, zombie bitches, etc.

            HOWEVER, some guy was dressed as Dr. Death, that is, the GERMAN Dr. Death, FULL SS uni, with a white lab coat.

            This guy was not white. He was Asian with an aussi accent.

            He was an acquaintance of an acquaintance, and we just happened to be smoking in the patio together. So, we began chatting.

            I aksed him if he was dressed as Dr. Death.

            Yes, he replied ,quite casually. Then we started talking about WW2, just wanted to see his angle, sure enough, he pretty much memorized most of the top Nazis.

            At this point, I’m thinking he’s like a closet SS. But like I said, he’s an Asian with an Australian accent.

            I told him, “Hope u didn’t part too far. If they see you on the street like that in L.A., you might not get to your car”

            He said, “Yeah, I know. I dressed up like a Taliban fighter at another club in texas, and I almost got my ass kicked”

            So, I guess this guy just likes to instigate? Should I have even talked to him?

            Didn’t know. But it’s not everyday I run across Asian Aussies in SS uniforms.

            Welcome to l.a.

          • If you do so in SS uni, jes.

  • Sactowns#1

    Hey I thought we were supposed to have a poll about fidelity and insane chicks. What gives?

    • Irish Sweetness

      To thine own self be true. Bitch!

      • Sactowns#1

        This lack of sex has made you so aggressive!

        • MB30SD

          Hahaha

        • Irish Sweetness

          (puts on a DeNiro voice)

          Keeps me where I need to be.

          (slips quietly out the back door and runs away)

  • Irish Sweetness

    Great Bears vid, with an ending that will have the hairs on the back of your neck up on end.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v-KiyY2y44

    • CanadaBear

      It’s better with the sound off.

    • Scharfinator

      Hahahah the start made me so sad

      • Irish Sweetness

        I thought it was a troll vid during the start ….

    • Bender McLugh

      maaaan, I forgot how much of a beast Akiem Hicks is.

      • Hicks doesn’t not look like a man to be trifled with. He brought down Cam essentially with holding on to his foot.

        Dude looks big and nasty.
        Goldman looks big and nasty.

        And McPhee looks like he wakes up angry at the world, like he takes birds shitting on his car personally, which is PERFECT for a LB.

        • Bender McLugh

          Well said

    • Jesus christ, that Cutty throw off his back foot over 2 chief defenders right into Alshon’s hands.
      That shit gives OCs raging hard-ons.

      And Yonny, see Amos laying the wood? And that was with a bunch of scrubs around him and being kinda lost as a rook,

      Now that he knows the system, fuckers gonna zero in on sukas and annihilate them.

      And right there is why I like Langford. He’s just got burst.

      We got much younger and more explosive on both sides of the ball.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Found a picture of Duane Brown – really not sure if he’s bullshitting about that tainted beef story.
    http://i.imgur.com/mYHqxzt.jpg

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I guess we can’t penalize the cow since it’s been eaten

      • Scharfinator

        POSTHUMOUS REMOVAL OF ALL COW AWARDS

    • DaCoaches Mustache

      Impressive Sack

  • Irish Sweetness

    Elliott Harrison has posted his new Power-ranking. Not to alrm anyone I won’t post the link, or say where we ‘are’.Suffice it to say that we have dropped two places from last year and din’t reach as high as 27.

    • willbest

      Gotta earn respect Irish. Does he have Denver in the top 10? That is the primary sign a power ranking shouldn’t be taken seriously.

    • CanadaBear

      Well if someone as smart as Elliot Harrison says it, it must be true. Or not.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I give up Who is HE?

        • CanadaBear

          I think he writes for NFL.com.

          • AlbertInTucson

            You know how much I LOVE things like”Power Rankings”. Especially in early May.

          • willbest

            How else are we supposed to know who won the off season super bowl?

          • AlbertInTucson

            D’OH! What a DUMKOPF am I.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Of course! How stupid of me!

          • CanadaBear

            I think the power rankings are kinda fun but don’t take them seriously. Esp in May. After watching these talking/writing/blogging heads talk about the Bears needs, why would anyone take them seriously? Most of them don’t even know the teams strengths or weaknesses.

          • Yeah, it’s absolutely astounding how clueless the national writers are.

            That’s why I just prefer quoting rotoworld.

            They use the local writers from around the league for their info. And they’re concise with little slant.

    • MB30SD

      Hee hee

  • Irish Sweetness

    Cordy Glenn just got paid. 13M a year. 26 years old LT. 6’6 345lb. Bills were the #1 rushing team last season. That’s what I call a LT. We’ve only got one guy that size on the team and he’s the blog joke.

    Leno is 6’4 302lbs. And week one is JJ Watt. I hope and trust POX have the moxie to switch horses midstream.

    • Johnnywad

      Dude. There more to the position than just being big. Giant, talented tackles don’t just go unnoticed by the entire league. There’s a reason he isn’t out there. I would guess he’s likely slow and/or dumb.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I was referring more to the size of a prototypical LT. 345, 6’6. Leno is barely 300 and 6’4.
        Guys were shouting for Conklin or Stanley and they’re the same size. All the talk has been on the guard situation because of the drft and Slauson. Cutty’s blindside is more important. I was never sold on Leno, I hope the penny drops for him this season, but he might just be too small. You ask me, he’s a guard.

        • CanadaBear

          Please show me evidence where the prototypical LT is 345 lbs.

        • Uhh Conklin is 6’6 308 with 35″ arms and 10″paws and has a nasty streak.

          http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jack-conklin?id=2555279

          Just on physique alone, he’s more prototypical then Joe Thomas.

          That is why I wanted him from the start when others had him going in the late 1st.

          then he climbed to the top 10.

          Not surprised.

          He would’ve been a fucking animal RT next to Long.

    • willbest

      Tayo had every opporunity last summer to earn starting RT. Keep in mind they threw Long out there at the start of the season when they realized
      they were up shit creek.

      • I think it had to do a lot with conditioning.

        It’s hard enough whipping great athletes from college into NFL shape (rookie wall), but when it’s bigger dudes from smaller programs, that’s a lot to ask.

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      Glenn is a beast. A HOF guy. Getting one of those is a bitch.

      Lane Johnson was the only LT worth a damn in the great OL draft of ’13. Fisher and Joekel got bumped inside. OK Fisher is back outside now, but at RT. Warmack is meh. Cooper busted. Fluker just got a new deal but is the only inside guy worth a damn.

    • CanadaBear

      Andre The Giant should have played OL.

      • MB30SD

        Hee hee

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    And now Kasich has finally given up the ghost

    • willbest

      I wonder why.

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        more money to secretly give to Hillary, the true Republican in the race

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          If Hilary is considered a republican then my dream scenario is coming true. If there are only Democratic candidates to be taken seriously in the future I feel like we can all focus more on issues at hand that affect the country instead of the standard ultra left and ultra right pandering. Everyone wins if the results are the things we focus on. Oh happy day!

          • willbest

            Like what?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I’m at work so i’ll answer more tonight. I’m a middle right kind of guy but have no problem with middle or middle left. I have a huge problem with idiotic ultra right and ultra left mentalities.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Same here

          • willbest

            The way I read you is. I am happy where all these things are right now, and want to stop talking about them. But there are these other issues I am not happy with how they are being addressed and would like them addressed more to my liking.

            I was just curious what those other issues are.

          • BerwynBomber

            I’m more middle-left, but yeah, pretty much agree.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            I dunno, I feel Clinton isn’t really that close to the middle. I think Bernie is very far left, but Hillary isn’t too far away from him

          • Trac

            Bernie ‘ s the nice Commie that’s presented to the public. Hillary is actually the one you’ll end up with. Scary thoughts. I’d rather stare down a rapidly approaching meteor than her. Lol.

  • willbest

    So by the numbers Indiana 2008 primary
    Clinton – 646k ~51%
    Obama – 632k

    2016
    Sanders – 331k
    Clinton – 297k ~ 47%

    She couldn’t even get half the people that showed up last time to vote for her out to do it again.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      It’s Indiana.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Yeah Indiana has been largely a die hard red state, but it does not seem to know it’s identity as of late.

        Our past 2 govenors have really put a spin on us citizens and they may be a big reason why Indiana might be having an identity crises

        • willbest

          Mitch Daniels is a national treasure! At the rate he is going, I might find it in my heart to donate back to our alma mater even after they doubled tuition between when I graduated and my wife did.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            I miss O’Bannon….he was a great govenor. Good ones seem to go out early, sad

    • Irish Sweetness

      The Bilderbergers will figure it out for her …

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      Steak & Shake makes one lethargic.

      Except Biggsy. It gives him super energy.

      • MB30SD

        Sounds delish!

        Do they have a “Kale & Wheatgrass” version?

        note: wheatgrass is fucking nasty… so is kale btw.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Fry it, you’ll like it!

      • Shady

        Not gonna lie, I was an intern there in ’05. Haven’t eaten there since.

        • Johnnywad

          But those shakes……

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          An intern at steak and shake?

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      Republican Primary Results 2008

      McCain – 329k

      Huckabee – 41k

      Paul – 32k

      Romney – 19k

      TOTAL – 412k

      Republican Primary Results 2016

      Trump – 587k

      Cruz – 404k

      Kasich – 82k

      TOTAL – 1073k

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    Somebody planted a IED on a bridge in Texas

    http://www.kcentv.com/story/31884264/ied-found-under-rosbud-bridge

    Trac? Anything you want to share?

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Thankfully the boys were being responsible and notified their father. Can’t imagine if younger children were to stumble onto this

    • Trac

      Child, Puhlease!!!

  • Trac

    This is how it works boys. Countries and people are sacrificed without a care by the World banks.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/american-banks-funded-the-nazis/31983

  • Trac

    I know things can get heated here sometimes but let me say this: I wish that I could believe the positive things that every candidate uses as part of their platforms but I just can’t anymore.

    • willbest

      I took more shit for saying Cutler’s contract was fair market value last off season than I have for any political view I have ever expressed around here.

      • Scharfinator

        Well… it *is* a Bears blog! 🙂

        However, that may be exactly your point.

        • willbest

          Pretty much. You want a heated discussion on politics follow a drudgelanche onto a typically liberal site or hit up one of the wilderness regions of the internet like reddit.

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            Reddit. Pttttth

          • SC Dave

            My experience with Libs on ther Internet is they descend into puerile, unimaginative ad homine posts in astonishingly short order.

            *yawn*

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Substitute “with people” and you would be on to something.

      • BC

        I agreed with you on Cutty’s deal.

      • BerwynBomber

        Don’t pat yourself on the back just yet. He was the highest paid player in the league in ’14 and the contract (rightfully so) looked like shit. Last year he played solidly and it didn’t look as bad. How the contract will ultimately be viewed remains to be seen.

        • willbest

          The argument I was making is that it was a 7 year, 18 mil per year and that all QBs would be making 18 million a year soon enough. And it turns out that it took only 1 more year for that to happen. So it happened before I even thought it would.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Is he better than Brock Osweiler?

  • willbest

    I was driving down the interstate and saw the powerball was 300+ million, I thought somebody on dablog had that all locked up last week sometime. what happened?

    • MB30SD

      The Lottery: A tax on people who can’t do the maths.

    • Trac

      Has anyone actually met anyone that got to spend all of their mega millions? Do they all move to shell island?

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        I know 3 people who have won the lottery, all smaller amounts.

        1. a guy won 4 mill, used part of the winnings to buy out a small concrete company that made garden pavers/stepping stones, just so he had something to do.

        2. a girl I dated parents won 7.5 mill. they are pretty much white trash that has money now. its not going to last long with the way they spend.

        3. Giant Douche of an acquaintance won 17 mill. some gold digger got her fingers dug into him. They married. She convinced him to convert his annuity to a lump sum, meaning huge penalties. then she spent 90% of it, then divorced him. He later filed bankruptcy. we all laughed, like I said he was a giant douche.

        • willbest

          Those are small amounts? I don’t think I could spend $17 million. I guess its more like $9 million after tax, but I don’t think I could even spend that much.

          • SC Dave

            Oh yes you could.

            Bus tour with Bears tix for all your blog pals, and me too, for the 2016 and 2017 seasons would about do it.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I would be willing to try.

          • willbest

            I mean I could, but my dream home is modest (by dream home standards) and could be built and furnished for under $1.5 million within an hour drive of Chicago (non-rush hour). I have, a couple times in my life, been subject to VIP treatment, and it unnerves me. I don’t like people paying that close attention to me.

          • 3 words.

            Gold-laden Coke Whorehouse.

            Ok, that’s like 5 words, but you’ll be so rich, the OED will no longer apply.

          • MB30SD

            5m and I’m good, 10 and I’m out. Like cya

      • Irish Sweetness

        Zuckerberg has spent 19M on personal security over the last three years (19 people guard him) …and Facebook picks up the bill!!!

  • Irish Sweetness

    Four months to kick-off, right? Time then …..

    Tabatha Boyajian doing a TED talk saying they’ve found something very very very big. She can’t say aliens, because then her career is over … but …. she means aliens.

    So the Kepler mission monitors the brightness of stars continuously, waiting for dips in brightness, thus revealing the presence of planets revolving around them. It’s a planet-hunter. Long story short, around star KIC 8462852, they found something huge. Massive. Gigantic. ‘Transits’ normally last for a few hours. This one lasted for a WEEK. Then in 2013, one lasted for a HUNDRED DAYS. Something in space was blocking the starlight.

    Ever heard of a Dyson sphere? On the Kardashev scale, a Type II civilization gathers energy from its sun after it exhausts the fuel of its own planet. We are 0.73 on the scale … type VI civilizations are very cool indeed. So anyway, the Type IIs they have to build build enormous solar panels around their sun, Dyson spheres. The ‘experts’ tell us that they’ve ruled out this object being a Dyson sphere … because that woud imply aliens, which don’t exist ….. but they have no idea what it is. But it’s there …something way too big to be a planet.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gypAjPp6eps

    • willbest

      Or it could be that dark matter they were talking about.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Dark matter is something in another dimension, hence ‘dark’. We can’t see it, but we can detect the effects of its gravity. There isn’t enough mass in our universe to be creating all of that gravity. This is something specifically blocking out the light of a star that is incredibly massive. They’ve kept it very quiet, it was a small story last year.

        • willbest

          I was sort of poking fun at the concept of Dark matter/energy. We have no proof it exists but we know its there, because if it wasn’t then our understanding of the Universe wouldn’t work!

        • burntorangenavyblue

          It is absolutely hilarious that they want to be hush hush about it. What will us knowing if a civilization existed THOUSANDS of light years away have any bearing on us?

          Sure the freak out will ensue, but only temporarily.

          Religious zealots will find a way to change or spin their doctrine to suit their agenda as to why their religion still reign supreme with the knowledge that we aren’t alone…

          Or try to somehow indoctrinate their beliefs onto the aliens like the missionaries did during colonial times

          • SC Dave

            Thousands of light years means a long time ago

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Yeah, ok?….

        • SC Dave

          Hogwash

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      My problem with ETs is that they would be Dolphin fans.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Hah!!!!!

    • Trac

      Excerpts fom my upcoming Novel.

      My theory starts with a certain group of people that have been hiding magnetic drive propulsion systems from the public since the late 40’s and early 50’s. These same people have been systematically using high level agents to manipulate the storyline though disinformation. It’s way more benefitial to get people to stay off their backs by making the general public to think they’ve seen a UFO with little gray aliens aboard in order to keep their technology a secret.

      I have no idea who I’ll be able to edit this thing when I’m finished. Hee hee.

      • Irish Sweetness

        You’ve been watching those Lockheed ‘Skunkworks’ vids, Trac!

        Don’t pay any heed to Bob Lazar’s fantasies though. I debunked him on element 115, Ununpentium, which he thought would never rear its ugly head. It did.

        Although you’re right about Occam’s Razor – it’s far more likely that ‘flying saucers’ are built in Groom Lake than on other planets.

        • Trac

          Actually not really. I’ve been following the crumbs that Werner Von Braun and various others have left.

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            Did you see Brando in Doctor Moreau?

            Man that was so fucked up

          • Trac

            Hollywood loves to cloak what’s going on behind the scenes. You may have been looking at a real hybrid.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Oh, c’mon, Trac.

          • Trac

            Lol. That WAS tongue in cheek but you’d be surprised maings.

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            The horror! The horror!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Bob Lazar is a liar Trac. Total fraud. No CIA ties were proven, the CIA don’t ‘prove’ ties. They have no jurisdiction over the UFO phenomenon anyway. Lazar was an average student in high school and Stan Friedman debunked his educational credentials. 99.9% of the stuff on the internet is bogus. Philip Schneider, Bob Stone, the Montauk project, Al Bielik, all wonderful wonderful stories … told by professional liars. I’ve watched them all Trac. Bullshitters, one and all.

            The only things I can hold onto are the things I’ve seen with my own eyes, and the things that my friend Yuri Lozotsev investigated – I believe him. Things that astronauts came out with in later years.That’s it. Everything else…? I’ve met too many bullshitters in real life to believe the ones that have finely detailed fantasies constructed as they go about on their MUFON itineraries. There’s a lot of very gullible people that want to believe in alien civilizations, so thy overcompensate and believe whatever convincing charlatan in front of them with a ‘good story’. I had totally blocked out the whole thing for years after Roswell proved too much for me. Then I spent two and a half hours in Dr; Lozotzev’s office one day and the hairs on the back of neck were standing on end the whole time. My life changed. I had known his son for years before that – he looked after the computers in the uni, also a very quiet unassuming intelligent guy. When he saw me after I had visited his father, he could see it on my face. He looked at me as if to say “I know, I’ve lived with this my whole life.”
            They are visiting us. We are being visited. Just not by spaceships from the far distant reaches of the galaxy. Not the youtube stuff.

            There may be something to genetic manipulation – it would explain the ‘accelerated evolution’ of mankind in relation to chimps for example. The evidence in ancient archaeology is there for visitors, Shatner’s Von Daniken based Chariots of the Gods being a fine example, as well as more recently Michael Tellinger’s findings in South Africa.

            Have to sift the chaff from the wheat Trac, because most of it is chaff.

          • MB30SD

            10 Cloverfield lane bru.

          • Trac

            Do the math Irish. Bob Lazar was in charge of printing NASA documentation and he was a free mason. Free Masons at certain levels are all doing the bidding of their masters which includes the cia. I disagree with you. I also do not doubt that contact has been made with a different entity but I have a believe they not from outside this universe.

          • Irish Sweetness

            So he was working in Groom Lake on reverse engineering saucer technology AND with NASA … and with the CIA too?

            This is all you need to know – such was his addiction to lavish tales, he mentioned “taking some element 115 home” … the so-called fuel of flying saucers. This was years before element 115 had been developed in a laboratory so he could pretty much say what he liked about it as all that would have been known about it from the atomic chart was its weight. But when 115 was eventually produced in a lab, it had a half-life of milliseconds, or something of that order. So he was lying about that. If he was lying about that then it follows the whole thing is a lie. Plus, on the most basic level, he just comes across as a liar. If he were actually doing what he said he was .. they would have disappeared this guy long ago.

            One possible hope for traveling large distances comes from a cryptic comment I received in an email from Paul Hellyer, whom you might be familiar with. I had been in contact with him regarding the event in Voronezh in 1989. I quote:

            “One point on the speed of light, however, it came as a revelation to me to learn that gravity travels faster than light. Most of the ships involve some kind of gravity and anti-gravity propulsion so that can be a factor, as well as all of the other possibilities that you have mentioned and one or two that you haven’t.”

          • Trac

            He’s a disinformation agent imo.

          • I am curious about gravity. It’s the one major force that we seem to no little about.

            Here’s a question which I have no clue about.

            If light cannot escape gravity (black hole) does that mean gravity out ran it or is merely occupying a space and bending it back (and if it’s bending it back, does it bend back in light speed? Does light follow the same trajectory from whence it came? What does happen to light trying to escape a blackhole?)

            Another possibility to travelling faster than light – subatomic particles.

            It’s been observed that subatomic particles disappear then reappear.

            Do they disappear and reappear FASTER than the speed of light?

            If so, than theoretically we can make ALL particles disappear and reappear in another faraway place faster than it would take the speed of light to reach.

    • Johnnywad

      With my hand alone, I can block the light of hundreds of stars on any given clear night.

      • Bender McLugh

        Trillions!

    • Bender McLugh

      Siiii much that is wrong with this

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Seriously need a press conference of Kasich suspending his”attempt” of presidential nomination? Ok….

    • It’s been suspended since he started.

      I remember remarking in the 1st rep debate, b4 I knew who he was, that Kasich came off as the most “presidential”.

      NB then informed me that a lot of his conservative friends liked him BUT…wall st/crony/Bush connections doomed him from the start.

      A lot of folks are still pissed from Bush trying to send us back to the Medieval Ages.

      Lots of folks lost good jobs and nice houses. That shit will not fly.

      It’s pretty apparent that many americans are fed up with the status quo.

      NOBODY thought Trump/Bernie would still be relevant in May, but here they are, making Croynist very nervous.

      • Trac

        You do know that WWE wresting is fake don’t you? At least give me that. Hee hee

        • Here’s the thing Trac.
          The Banks will ALWAYS win.

          UNLESS Americans want to radically overhaul the system, like nationalizing the banks or instill much more regulation (erasing corporate loopholes).

          But then they hear “socialism” and their weenies shrink, and they end up voting for “Fill in the blank Dem/Rep” cuz Joe Schmo doesn’t want to risk becoming Mexico and losing their shitty job their slaving away at to blow job the banks ramming them with interest for their homes, cars, businesses, loans….

          And on that note, I’ll quote Nietzche on Captialism.

          “In any case the slave is nobler than his modern masters – the
          bourgeoisie. It is a sign of the inferiority of ninteenth century
          culture that the man of money should be the object of so much worship
          and envy. But these business men too are slaves, puppets of routine,
          victims of busy-ness; they have no time for new ideas; thinking is
          taboo among them, and the joys of the intellect are beyond their
          reach…see how they climb, these swift apes! They climb over one
          another, and thus drag themselves into the mud and depths[…]Within fifty years theses Babel governments [capitalistic
          governments] will clash in a gigantic war for the markets of the world[…]There are
          socialists who will admire the book of Zarathustra; but their admiration
          is not wanted.” but he grudgingly admits, “Perhaps even some degree of
          socialism, dangerous as that is, would be justified here:’ we should
          take all the branches of transport and trade which favor the
          accumulation of large fortunes – especially therefore the money market –
          out of the hands of private persons or companies[…]the very men who most need supervision and control”! In fact,
          any sector that could monopolize o give too much power to the “pirates”.

          So see, even way back then, good Ole Nietzsche accurately predicted the inevitable death march of Lassa-faire capitalism, and though distasteful, insisted on hardcore regulation or straight out nationalization lest the corporate pirates enslave civilization and package them for war.

          But, these thoughts scare americans. Change, true change, is scary, and apes are risk averse.

          Joe Schmo will simply keep paying his interest, handing over his hens to his corporate master.

          • Trac

            Really don’t have to quote me anyone. I’ve been able to ascertain through factual history and modern events that the only difference between communism and capitalism is that one has an illusion of freedom. After signing the constitution, Thomas Jefferson was quoted as mockingly saying, “You have a Republic….if you can keep it.” They knew my man. We are a carbon copy of Rome in its decline.

          • Yeah, but Rome took a LONG ass time to decay.
            The end is NOT nigh, my friend.

            You think Trump and Hillary are bad, they are saints compared to Nero and Caligula.

            We still have a few centuries to go b4 for that.

          • willbest

            US will go quicker than Rome. Benefit and curse of the modern world. I don’t expect the US to exist in its present form when I die.

          • Trac

            The added component in this thing would be a one world government that no longer operates in the shadows. When that happens you can bet your bippy that all the dead weight will be cut down.

          • The Culling? Irish, is that you?

          • MB30SD

            The purge… election day

          • Might be right there.
            This isn’t Egypt or China of yore.

            In such a rapid reality, revolution might happen as fast as a tweet.

            Don’t think Tunisia, Egypt were predicting an “Arab Spring”…

          • MB30SD

            Yeah, that was a massive revolution, thank god, cause the Arab world is so diff now. (Rolls eyes)

          • Irish Sweetness

            It’s already happening – too many standing armies. And Trump wants to make them bigger. SMH.

            Some wealthy soul with a good heart should buy the airtime and have them play Eisenhower’s exit speech from 1961.

          • willbest

            Empires are expensive to maintain.

          • Trac

            I hear you, really I do but I’m seeing a lot of clouds gathering on a worldwide scale. Like I said, I really don’t want to be right.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            I made the mistake of watching that Caligula movie….wonder if any leaders live like he does in modern times?

          • Exhibit A. (I actually know someone who interviewed Pfizer on this, and long story short, less coproate taxes. Fuck americans.)

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pfizers-ireland-cost-money_us_563a2734e4b0b24aee483df1

            But hey, laissez faire capitalism right?
            Gov shouldn’t do shit about this. The market will correct itself.
            I’m sure corporations left to their own designs will keep you in their thoughts while your bills are spread out over the kitchen table.

            If an Irishman takes your cubicle, or Indian ur tech job, or mexican your spade cuz they’re willing to do it for cheaper, tough luck right?

            #FreeMarketBaby

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCXbib9MahE

          • willbest

            Does it bother you that the rest of the civilized world doesn’t tax profits not made in their country like the US does?

            Tax code should be 180 of what it is now on that front. It should tax pfizer if it doesn’t bring its money back to the US, not when it does. Or do what China does, require any company of note wanting to get into the Chinese market to partner with a Chinese company and engage in intellectual property exchanges.

            That is how you leverage market dominance.

          • Yes, but either way, the GOVERNMENT has to intercede for the exact reason’s Nietzsche predicted.

            This is why I can’t buy libertarian, lasses-faire, trickledown or deregulation rhetoric.

            The ONLY social responsibility any corporation follows is maximizing profits.

            Not creating jobs, keeping work conditions safe, they didn’t even want to end child labor or 18hr work days or care about polluting the U.S until they were FORCED.

            Ok. I think I made my point. Think it’s valid. Whether true or not, only history can decide.

            Butch rant over.

            Where’s my beer…

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Your beer that your leaders taxed the shit out of you for and that you bought using after tax income.

            #have2

          • Trac

            The military portion includes Homeland Security, FEMA and bribes and payoffs to Isis, yes? When you think about our military is very scary when you realize what little chance a civilian population would have against it but it’s the Nato ships and troops within our territorial waters that really bothers me.

            http://allnewspipeline.com/Ducks_Are_Lined_Up_For_America_Takeover.php

          • willbest

            I don’t know Afgans didn’t really feel any worse off than when the Russians went through there. We are rather civilized warmongers, all you have to do is not be standing next to the “bad” guys and we will probably give you a swag bag on our way through.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Don’t Facebook, Google, Apple and Pfizer all have their ‘bases’ in Ireland?

          • willbest

            Pfizer is in the process of inverting. The other 3 are in the US, but the laws for corporations is they only need to pay taxes on money they earn aboard if they bring it back to the US. Which is the dumbest setup conceivable since it actively encourages them to develop assets in Bangalore and replace US workers.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Oh Butch, everything works in theory until you add humanity to the mix. Also, you don’t need to pay interest on anything if you don’t want to. It seems unamerican but it’s true.

            I have cut all interest payments out of my life and my mortgage is a 15yr fixed at 2.75% but guess what broham, my family and I get FUCKED on taxes. I should be on a fast track to being able to spend a couple years in the sunshine before i die but instead about 40% of my income is ripped away. To make matters worse it’s spent paying for the mistakes and miscalculations of our “leaders” and those who came before us for decades.

            We have leaders that have run out of ways to tax us because the same dollar gets gangbanged like an aspiring rap video vixen on a pontoon boat in Lake Ponchatrain.
            They now talk about taxing retirement funds more, long term investments more, incomes more, goods and services more, fun booze and cigs more, etc.

            Haha, it’s all a joke man. I’ll still win but goddamn do they rig the game as much as possible.

            #ridingtheCubsToRetirement

          • willbest

            A good chunk of your taxes go to pay interest.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            yup

          • Yes, I hear you. You’re married with children.

            But NO ONE gets raped more than the single-no-children man with taxes.

            But it’s all interconnected. Where do you think a lot of those taxes funnel to?

            Hint:

            It aint welfare, schools or even healthcare

            https://media.nationalpriorities.org/uploads/discretionary_spending_pie,_2015_enacted.png

            Let’s say we elect a president who wants to slash military spending in half, eradicate corporate loophools (feel the Bern…) and refund that % to Yonny.

            Wouldn’t that make you feel MUCH better? Maybe could even afford Trade Wind Platinum.

          • willbest

            How to lie with chrats… Look we spend $200-250 billion more on military than we need to, but the discretionary budget is like 1/3rd of the total budget. Its mostly just money being funneled from working men to non-working women.

          • Irish Sweetness

            They would be assasisnated in public.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I wish I was married. I get no tax brakes for my kids. I have to get that sorted.

          • Sactowns#1

            Do you still file taxes in Ireland or the US or wherever the hell?

          • Irish Sweetness

            You could move. I mean .. you could..

          • Irish Sweetness

            Happened to me baby! Had a job I loved with Corel (did your WordPerfect, Corel Draw, and my baby, Paradox) .. then one day … BOOM … they’d outsourced EVERYTHING to Bangalore. Fuck you. Did some contracting .. couple of planes went into a couple of towers … the whole thing went crazy … worked in a factory for a while … moved to Asia.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I love Thomas Jefferson’s:

            I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

          • willbest

            Yes, but Woodrow Wilson was a god among men.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    The orange light saber is for sell outs

    https://twitter.com/ChicagoBears/status/727890664021594112

    • Trac

      Do they make a Navy Blue one?

  • Trac

    Are you not entertained my blog brethren? I know that somewhere Jeff is downing a boatload of Guinness shaking his head as he reads this run away train. Lol

    • willbest

      There is apparently a long lost Prince half-sister. I am sure she just wants to grieve with the rest of the family.

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        ahhhh….. trusts

      • SC Dave

        Lol, truly. Assuming you’re joking, of course.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Was she locked in the vault?

    • Picnics with the Yakuza
    • SC Dave

      No shit. He lost any control long ago. And to his giant credit, does not give a fuck!

  • SC Dave

    Gawd, you guys kill me with the conspiracy shit.

    The Grand Fallacy of it all is the presumption of competence. They are not.

  • willbest
    • Trac

      Moses was black, so were the biblical Hebrews, Ancient Eqyptian ‘ s, King Arthur, Mozart and Socrates. Yup, it’s true.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Trac, the problem right now is I’m not able to distinguish the crazy shit you don’t believe and the crazy shit that you do believe. Can you tag the responses where you are just pulling our legs?

        • willbest

          I am pretty sure that was sarcasm

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            There are plenty of ding dongs that actually believe the mozart one. Baffling but true.

          • willbest

            Apparently I was wrong. But I am am just going to agree to disagree on this one because I don’t have time for that rabbit hole.

          • Trac

            http://jobs.blacknews.com/content/221996/ludwig-van-beethoven-was-a-black-man-the-proof

            There’s a whole lot of evidence if people actually look for the truth. I’m coming to understand that there’s a lot of white skinned devils and a lot of dark skinned angels that history has hidden.

        • Trac

          That post just made me realize about this when I came across the evidence that a heavy meat diet hasn’t been around very long. You can search the archives and find a lot of evidence that lighter skin and blue eyes are recessive traits within the genome. I was dead serious with this post. Black history has been corrupted by Western civilization. It’s a crying shame.

        • DaMurph

          Whoa!!!!!!

          • Trac

            Referring to the above incident, Alexander W.
            Thayer, perhaps the foremost authority on Beethoven, says, “Beethoven
            had even more of the Moor in his features than his master, ‘Haydn.'”
            (Beethoven, Vol. I, p. 146). By “Moor” was meant “Negro.” Until recent
            times, the German for “Negro” was “Mohr.”

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      No wonder we Irish are so stupid and primitive

      • Irish Sweetness

        That’s the drink. And the inbreeding.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Tubers vs Grains….that’s what 2016 is all about!

    • Trac

      I actually was looking at archeological evidence a couple of days ago that ancient civilizations(Egyptians, Africans) primarily ate grains and nuts.

  • willbest

    Football related, Bears must be doing something right if another team is trying to poach our front office guys

  • “He and Jeremy Langford should compliment each other very nicely” – Andy

    They should.

    Langford will remark “Howard, those are sweet shoes, bro.”
    “Ah, thanks, man. Your gold-jock strap rocks!” Howard will reply
    Langford, “Oh, thanks, much love….”

    • Trac

      I very much enjoyed that catch Langford made on the video Irish posted.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Awesome wasn’t it?

        • MB30SD

          Nah, he sucks. 22 or nothing g

          • Irish Sweetness

            Re-visit that catch. If you can make that catch .. .you can catch anything.

          • MB30SD

            I was being sarcastic my man… and giving dave a little guff in the process.

            I personally think Langford is going to have a great year.

            Oh, and I was at that game. Huzzah!

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Speaking of which, when are you headed to Chicago? Looking to go to Green Bay or an earlier game where my hopes have not yet been crushed.

          • MB30SD

            September time frame

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Only home game in September will be the Monday Night game vs. the Iggles.

          • MB30SD

            Damn.

    • Big Mike

      thanks for that. Over analysis stage about to set it. This is the time period where football news and analysis is made out of thin air. What amazes me the most is there will be rankings of teams, that change between now and the start of training camp, based solely on “recess like football activities” and rumor.

  • • I try not to overevaluate the draft too much, but I don’t think the
    Vikings got better. Laquon Treadwell is fine, but he’s not going to be
    able to create separation and they have a quarterback who doesn’t make
    tight throws. Mackensie Alexander is a fine prospect, but he won’t play
    for two years unless they have a major injury. I don’t see anyone else
    who helps them. This is the first time in a long time I can remember
    feeling that about the Vikings draft. – Andy

    It’ll be interesting. Bridewater is not Cutty. He’s not just gonna fling. I don’t think he has that mentality. He’s much closer to Alex Smith who infamously throws to everyone but WRs.

    I think they already ignored Diggs who is VERY talented. Bridgewater will likely hold back Treadwell too.

    Plus, our CBs actually match up better vs bigger WRs.

    It’s those small ones that seem to rip us apart.

  • • The Packers always have at least one impact rookie. Kenny Clark will
    start and be an upgrade over B.J. Raji, but did they move the needle
    other than that? Jason Spriggs won’t play unless there’s an injury.
    Kyler Fackrell will be their fourth edge. They needed an inside
    linebacker and more depth on the defensive line. I don’t think Blake
    Martinez or Dean Lowry helps them. – Andy

    The Packer’s offseason continually baffles me. No FAs, and then they ignore ILB.

    WTF?

    They’re truly lucky they hit on the Willy Wonka Vadgers Ticket.

  • So, random Butch shit. Since we talked a lil about Rome, just googled, “Worst roman emperors”

    You know it’s awful when raping infants only gets you to # 4 on the list

    http://listverse.com/2010/05/09/top-10-worst-roman-emperors/

    • Irish Sweetness

      James ‘Tiberius’ Kirk, eh?

      Caligula was a darling wasn’t he?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Great cast in that.

        John Hurt is a completely whack-job as Caligula.

        Derek Jacoby is outstanding in the title role.

        Patrick Stewart is a very evil Sejanus.

        Great work all around.

        That was back in the days when Alistair Cook did the introductions on Masterpiece Theatre.

        • Irish Sweetness

          All I can remember from it is :

          1. Helen Mirren is in it. The lovely.

          2. Planting humans and then ‘mowing’ their heads off.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I believe you are confusing I CLAUDIUS with Bob Guccione’s CALIGULA.

    • CanadaBear

      If you ever get the chance to see I Claudius on Masterpiece Theatre, check it out. I think it was 12 parts and it was back in the 80’s. Great stuff. The book I Claudius is also terrific.

    • SC Dave

      And so many fulminate over Trump…

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        +100 blog points for usage of fulminate

        • Irish Sweetness

          Wasn’t there a ‘fulminate’ in Breaking Bad?

  • Stacyllucero2

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      Cheesy? Is that you?

  • Bender McLugh

    I sacrilege, but for the 20-6 Cubbies. RIZZO.

    Rizzo doubled and scored on Javier Baez’s fifth-inning double and hit his ninth home run of the season in the seventh off Ryan Vogelsong. He had three hits, scored three times and finished the series with five doubles and the home run.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      $$$

    • BC

      What a bargain!!!

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  • bearfacts

    Well done analysis Andrew. Really well done!

    I have to admit to being one of those who was far from being “all in” on the Floyd pick. All I could see based on what info I had available to me was another SEC “Tweener” who was little different than an Aundray Bruce, a Barkevious Mingo, or any one of a dozen failed edge rushers those southern boys seem to produce at the rate of at least one per draft. Apparently those scouting reports were somewhat incomplete and the Bears weren’t the only ones who had Floyd as a top ten pick. Dallas had him ranked second only to Bosa as a rusher and NY wanted him as badly as we did. So I’m warming to the pick but I still believe Fangio and Clint Hurtt have a lot of work to do with him and that he needs to get his weight up around 250lbs and keep it there.

    IMHO Whitehair and Bullard were out and out steals as value picks. Maybe a half dozen OL were good enough to be day one starters and Whitehair was one of them. I was surprised they released Slauson rather than moving him to OC but I do know he’s not a fit at all for a zone run blocking scheme as a LG. If they expect Grasu to have added some strength and to hold his starting spot that would have caused Slauson to become a $3 mil backup instead of Ramirez at less than $1 mil so based on that and allowing Slauson to latch on where he might be more effective makes sense but I’m still sad to see him go. He’ll be missed.

    Bullard should be able to handle that hybrid DE/DT role Fangio used both Ray McDonald and Justin Smith for in SF. I thought Bullard was second only to Rankin as far as drafting a guy to fill that role and while Rankin went in one we were able to get Bullard on three. The guy flat out plays the run as well as any smaller DL in the draft and I can see him getting enough penetration and pressure to add some sacks once they hone is technique a bit. Bullard may cause Will Sutton to lose his roster spot.

    I wanted Joe Schobert in the 4th round but the Browns nabbed him with the first pick in that round. I know the Bears were looking at him too and when he got taken it probably explains why they moved up for Kwiatkoski. He’s a similar type of LB but probably a better fit for the type of ILB they want because of his coverage skills whereas Schobert was more of an ILB edge type. I like Timu a lot but he doesn’t have all the tools this kid has and we needed to start drafting LBs again and not just hope we could get by with UDFAs we hoped to develop into starters.

    The DB picks were all good fits and one of the them should be able to step up and get some time as a starter either from day one or before the season ends. Donatell has always been successful at developing good Safeties. Howard is a 230lb version of Ka’Deem Carey and now we have a full stable of one cut type backs who all fit into Fox’s running scheme. He and Carey should be perfect ball control and short yardage backs and Langford is the guy with the big play kind of speed. We can use all three because sure as hell one of them will get injured and miss some time.

    Braverman was another steal as a slot guy and he looks like he might also be a very good prospect as a PR. I think a lot of teams were hoping he might go undrafted so they’d have a shot at him as an UDFA. For that reason alone I don’t know if you want to try and sneak him through waivers in order to get him on the PS. In all likelihood Royal will be gone next year and if we keep Braverman on the roster it may cost Mariani his spot this year. I think this kid could be something special and I would not risk losing him. I like the two TEs they signed as UDFAs as well.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Welcome, Bearfacts. Good stuff.

      Did we sign two TEs?

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      nice man, welcome.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    I now believe that Craig Wright is a mentally ill individual. I believe he was never satoshi nakamoto.

    I do not believe he was the original creator of bitcoin. I believe he carefully constructed a duplicate email account at vistamail in Panama and used some key signing tricks to try and fool the crypto community, but there are way too many smart people watching this drama and they quickly found that he simply replayed a old nakamoto signature from years ago.

    I believe now that his parlor tricks have been shown and demands for him to conduct a transaction against the genesis block of the first 50 bitcoins has occurred, he is now exposed as a liar and will scramble for the shadows.

    I believe the anonymous source that unmasked Craig Wright, the deep throat that worked with the Wired reporter on exposing Craig Wright as the founder of bitcoin was Wright himself.

    So now, he scurries like a cockroach:
    http://drcraigwright.net/

    This is a very very strange story. I was convinced by the early Wired story, but now I walk that back.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Anybody on here use Bitcoin?

      • 505Bears

        Is that like the coins in Super Mario Bros? Ficticious type of money isn’t my thing.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          There’s a cupcake place here that takes them…which I find kind of amusing.

      • MB30SD

        Ask GP, I think he’s a back-alley bitch in dealer

  • willbest

    Slauson visited with Chargers and is on his way to visit with Buffalo. Bears play neither team next year two football seasons.

  • willbest

    And in other news, Trump submits to the bankers. Doesn’t plan to self-finance the general, but then most people should have already assumed that.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/05/trump-says-wont-self-fund-general-election-campaign.html

    • Trac

      Wow! Say it ain’t so, morning Joe.

    • Last man drops out. Now he’s demanding cash.
      Coincidence, I’m sure.

      At least the other REPs never pretended to not be beholden to the machine.

  • BC

    Is Cliff Stein on vacation? I’m reading about all these draft picks signing, and I’m jealous. Usually my man Stein is on it.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      that is not Stein’s job anymore.

    • Stein is no longer doing the signings, from my understanding.

      Leave it to the Bears to “promote” the one guy who did his job better than anyone else in the league.

      I think Pace brought his Saint’s beancounter over for that, which should scare us.

      • BC
      • SC Dave

        More evidence of Paces ego, or accountability, depending on your perspective

      • Johnnywad

        Stein inked Cutty’s deal that damn near everybody flipped out over and called insane. These days, I feel like everybody is full of shit, has a short memory, and says whatever the fuck they want.

        Now get off my god damn lawn.

        • Shady

          About 70% of what you read on the Internet is some form of bullshit and there’s zero accountability for it. You HAVE to be careful or else you’ll end up like Trac and Irish spending all your Bitcoin subscribing to conspiracy sites to know the REAL truth.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I look at it – not anymore, but I did – for research purposes. 99.9% is bullshit.
            When Gordo Cooper tells you he photographed a saucer where an alien exited the craft on the ground, you listen.

        • Personally, only that FIRST year bothered me cuz it just felt WRONG that he was getting paid more than Brady, Vadgers, etc.

          I also didn’t really like the timing of it. Why not just put the tag?

          If he would’ve continued being Bortlesque and really did check out on the team, then he could’ve easily been traded (at that point we had NO clue which Cutty would emerge).

          Stein is only a bean counter. He’s given his marching orders from up high, but he carries them out with swift efficiency, and usually at good bargains.

          From what I read, he has a great relationship with almost all the agents, and they don’t think Stein is trying to screw them over (even with Rosenhaus or whatever his name is who is infamous for playing hardball), so the process usually goes smoothly (esp now with the new CBA).

          Stein is most likely mentoring this new guy who doesn’t have the experience nor the rep.

          Hopefully, Stein teaches him well and “vouches” for him.

          Cuz NO contracts/cap look fucking disastrous.

  • Trac

    Did anyone else hear the Bears tried to trade Houston and Young during the draft?

    http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-bears/after-bears-release-antrel-rolle-matt-slauson-question-looms-who-else

    • BC

      Heard about Houston but not Young.

      • Trac

        Possible cuts coming down?

        • BC

          Maybe one but not both, would be part of final cuts I assume. If I had to say right now who it would be, I would think Houston.

        • willbest

          Young better be on 1 god damn leg if we cut him. In addition to having an awesome sack dance he has 16.5 sacks, 4 passed defensed, 1 INT, and 1 FF over the last two years. Plus all the disruptions (however those get counted). All for the ridiculously low price of $3 million a year.

          • The Fisherman!

            However, Young has been disgruntled. I think he demanded a trade last year. He always wanted to be a 4-3 DE. He didn’t sign up to be a 3-4 rush or subpackage rusher.

            Then the Bears heard his complaint and released Mullett Man so Young gets more playing time.

            Young may still be dissatisfied though.

            He still may want to be traded to a 4-3 team.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            They are not getting rid of either. you need 4 quality OLB’s and they have that in Young, Houston, McPhee and hopefully Floyd. Acho is the swing OLB that plays specials.
            Houston and Young are finally healthy, it would be insane to let both of them or even 1 of them go at this point. You would simply be making the team weaker.

          • No one thought they’d release (not even trade) Slauson either.

            If Young is still asking for a trade, POX will oblige.

            It’s pretty obvious by now that they’re dumping anyone who isn’t all-in.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Slauson was all in. He was just old and slow in their opinion I guess. Young and Houston were at the Bears photo session the other day. They wouldn’t put them in there is there was any doubt.

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            how fast does a guard need to be?

          • How fast can Grassu skate backwards?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse
          • Wow. WTF. Didnt’ catch that.
            Had to be a huge advantage for pass rush.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Cam from Ferris Bueller better be fucking right.

    • Irish Sweetness

      About time on Houston – 7M a year? No thanks.

      Crazy to get rid of Young.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Here’s your Republican nominee…
    http://www.newsweek.com/truth-about-trump-mob-454053

    • Who needs a PAC when you can get the 5 families!

      Trump just needs to get the Yakuza, Triad and throw in some Russian mob and mex cartels into the mix, and he’ll truly be “independent”!

      • willbest

        You been watching too much Daredevil on Netflix

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Impossible!

    • willbest

      Is that better or worse than cattle futures?

      • Sactowns#1

        Well I haven’t known any cattle to dismember people and put them in the trunk of a car.

        • willbest

          In truth, roughly 20 people die annually in cattle involved incidences.

          • Sactowns#1

            Yeah but those people are usually the ones planning on killing the cattle. So really its just self defense.

          • willbest

            Mobs just trying to feed his family. That is practically self defense.

          • Shady

            That’s bull shit.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis
          • Sactowns#1

            So what youre saying is, more Americans die from cattle than from terrorists? We have your next war Mrs Clinton!

          • willbest

            Assuming you are using the arbitrary cutoff of 9/12/2001. But if you go back 1 more day then not so much.

          • Sactowns#1

            What if I go back to 1776? What arbitrary cutoff date would you like?

          • The one that makes him right.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I brought my popcorn…I’m not even entirely sure what the argument is at this point.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            give it time, my guess it devolves to how many people are killed by alien nazi bankers.

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            Alien Yakuza Bankers

          • willbest

            Go for it. Any date prior to 2001 and after 1792 that makes you right.

          • Sactowns#1

            Exactly. Over the life of our nation it would be about 12-15 people per year.

          • willbest

            Just so long as you provide the date when more people have been killed by cows than terrorist.

          • Irish Sweetness

            478 deaths from CJD (mad cow disease) in 2013, rising steadily since the seventies. So pretty much every single year cows kill more people than terrorists .. .excluding 9/11 obviously.

          • willbest

            I presume you mean of the Muslim variety, but you should also probably define terrorism. ie. does McVeigh count? What about the 3000 or so blacks lynched during the reconstruction era? If all that counts then you are going to have to find a great Cattle rebellion in our history.

          • SC Dave

            You’re on FIRE Sac!!

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            That’s fewer than the number of toddlers who have shot people this year.

        • SC Dave

          They do more than you think. Irish can tell you, I mean the bovine connection to the Tall Whites was documented by Trey Parker and Matt Stone’so meticulously researched exposé .

    • Trac

      Kinda reminds me of this guy…

      http://www.afn.org/~govern/mobpres.html

      Nothing to see here….move along…

  • Irish Sweetness

    Ah lads. Jim Breuer’s money-making tip … 1:25 in.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqDhIIdW-5g

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      I would kill for a Joe Pesci GPS

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Nothing like seeing a huge ugly ass pimple ad to start the comment thread

    • CanadaBear

      And you gave me shit for linking an article about Houston dissing Erin?

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Ok yeah I’d rather see your link

    • MB30SD

      how about the schmeg on the fingers shot? eeeeeewwwww

  • Sactowns#1

    He’s just so lame … it has to be Andy Kaufman doing a new version of Tony Clifton. https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10157008375200725:0

  • willbest

    Wow… Bills are looking at Slauson for RT…. Now that seems nutters to me, but if its true then I don’t have any idea why you would let a 4-position depth guy go unless he asked to be cut.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/05/04/matt-slauson-lines-up-visits-with-chargers-bills/

    • willbest

      Oh and recall that Kromer is the O-line coach of the Bills.

      • MB30SD

        jesus chris, we had matching shit sandwiches on eith side of the ball for a while didn’t we?! FML

    • Irish Sweetness

      The leading rushers in 2015.

  • MB30SD
    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      ohhh my my my.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    Willie Young: Healthy and setting the edge or locker room cancer?

    • MB30SD

      both?

    • CanadaBear

      Keep in mind the Bears rescued him from Detroilet. I’m guessing he’s still grateful. He’s a complete sucker for misdirection but definitely has some jump. Maybe playing along side professional grade ILB’s will change his mind about the 3-4. Who knows? He doesn’t seem like a total attention freak like BMarsh and the Black Uni.

      • willbest

        Nobody that played on the 2014 Bears was rescued from anywhere.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          There is more than one circle of hell

        • CanadaBear

          At the end of the day I would rather wake up in Chicago than Detroilet.

      • EnderWiggin

        I like the idea of keeping him around. The beginning of last season he was spreading rumors that he wanted traded or cut. BUT, after a few weeks watching film and talking with Vic, he made public statements about wanting to be a Bear for life. Total faith in Vic/Fox, he bought in 100%. At least it seems to me.

        • Big Mike

          I think you have to keep Willie Young. Another year of solid coaching, Better ILBs better d-line, better secondary, and some guys like competition. So there is Floyd to push him. Having Mcphee, Floyd and Young rushing from the outside will be nice. Where I can see him getting discouraged is if every time it is 3rd and long they pull him for Floyd and it crushes his stats.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    Butch –

    these are a perfect size to have a married woman kneel on.

    http://tinyurl.com/jbsxxs7

  • MB30SD
    • Trac

      So Jeff’s right, the draft is meaningless unless you have more guns and ammo than Antonio Banderas? Jess, I agree.

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      Veterans like Chris Culliver, Antrel Rolle, Matt Slauson and Jimmy Wilson have all been released in the days after the draft, with many more cuts likely by June 1. Will Moneyball teams miss all that veteran leadership? There will probably be some hiccups. But strong organizations have a habit of creating “leaders,” not the other way around.

      And there’s the difference between having John Fox at the head of the room and Marc Trestman.

      • Shady

        Oh no, what are the Bears gong to do without the likes of Chris Culliver and Jimmy Wilson?!

        • MB30SD

          Why shady, I do not know. We will certainly all perish!

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I got the green light from the missus last night to replace my PS3 with a PS4 (old reliable went dead – probably a busted power supply).

          • MB30SD

            BOOM!!!!

      • MB30SD

        Give that man a C-gar

  • Trac
    • MB30SD

      Hopefully mate!

  • Trac

    This!!!!!!!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0UPTQCgGCE

    You’ve been wondering what I’ve been doing MB? If you can watch all of this, then you will know.

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  • Cormonster

    Cherokee princess Elizabeth Warren is on the warpath. She has no reservations bashing Trump. You could even say she may want to scalp Trump. There isn’t enough wampum in the whole world that could buy her support for Trump.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/elizabeth-warren-twitter-toxic-trump-161957117.html

    When Trump’s bad medicine is used to defeat crooked Hillary, there will be a long, sad trail of tears among Warren and her followers.

    • Tirade? I don’t think anything she tweeted Trump would even deny.
      He’d probably be proud of it.

      • That Guy

        I can’t recall an election where both parties selected a candidate so hated by so many Americans.

        Hillary Clinton is literally the worst candidate for the Democrats in terms of converting Republicans. Her name is synonymous with anti-democrat sentiment. I suspect she would lose 2-1 if Republicans had the choice between her and 8 more years of Obama.

        Donald Trump built his campaign threatening Hispanics, Muslims, women. He represents everything about corporate America that democrats hate. While he attracts a lot more democrats than someone like Ted Cruz, he alienates nearly as many Republicans.

        Both of these folks are seriously disliked. It is a very strange election.

        • madscout12

          She’s lucky she had name recognition and closed primaries, because Sanders would have mopped the floor with her had he been a name for 6 more months. The more the electorate hears from Hillary, the less they like. The only reason she may win is that Trump might finally say that thing that alienates enough people to matter.

          • willbest

            Trump gained voters throughout the process, and in fact, he hasn’t said anything “controversial” on policy in months. I use “” because the only time Trump has ever taken a position that wasn’t mainstream (as in supported by at least 40% of the electorate) is when he made his pro-life blunder. And he made the blunder because he is pro-choice and tried to take a rational pro-life position not realizing that the mainstream pro-life position isn’t rational.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Which reflects more a massive hatred of the Republican party leadership than anything else.

          • Captain Obvious

            Trump’s voting gains are because more and more challengers dropped out, and because of classic bandwagoning.

            Primary voters make up a small percentage of general election voters. Caucuses are very un-representative. When 24% of GOP primary voters state that they will refuse to support/vote for Trump, that’s bad. For a Republican to win the general, he needs to keep 97%+ of the GOP in-line, and capture more than half of Independents/undecided. Trump’s got barely 3/4 of Republicans, and is underwater with his favorability among Independents/undecideds.

            There aren’t any voters left for him to gain.

            Even though he loves hispanics and their tasty taco bowls.

          • Captain Obvious

            It’s not a “may win” for Clinton. She’s got a 9-point national lead. Her Electoral College lead is so big that all she has to do is win states that have voted Democrat in EVERY election in the past 24 years, plus Florida, and she wins.

            Even without Florida, with “safe” Democrat and “likely” Democrat states, she will win over 300 Electoral votes. With 270 needed to win, it will take a massive fuckup for Clinton to lose the general election.

            Which is why Republicans are staying far, far away from Trump. It’s likely the party spends very little on his campaign, and focuses on down-ticket races in an attempt to preserve a strong majority in the House, or in a desperate attempt to keep the Senate.

          • willbest

            Considering what Trump has accomplished, your confidence seems unwarranted.

          • Captain Obvious

            What he’s accomplished? He hasn’t even gotten a majority of GOP primary voters.

            He’s gotten somewhere around 8 million votes. 131 million people voted in 2012. Given that fully 24% of GOP PRIMARY voters said they would absolutely refuse to vote for Trump in the general, he’s pretty well fucked.

            The GOP had 17 chimps throwing semen and shit at each other when the campaign started. Being the clown who beat 16 other chimps by being the best at throwing shit and semen doesn’t equate an “accomplishment.” It just means he said the right things to motivate the xenophobes.

            Full disclosure: I’m married to a Muslim woman who was born in Lebanon. I’m a combat veteran of Desert Storm, Afghanistan, and the Iraq War. Donald Trump has said 1,000 things that offend me personally, professionally, and ethically. I’ve put my life on the line for my country, and I’ll do it again to keep Trump out of the Oval Office. So I have an axe to grind here. Maybe 100 axes. I try to rein it in when talking with others about Trump, but some will get out.

          • willbest

            Yes because we know that is all set in stone, and won’t change when people calm the F down and realize their option is Hillary. I would be worried if it were Bernie, or a convention fight brings Biden or Fauxcahontas out as the nominee. But her? Trump is going to win PA if it is her.

            Remember Van Jones? He was on the TV the other day saying that Dems might have a black problem with Trump he polls 10-20%.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Keep drinking that kool-aid though.

          • Captain Obvious

            Democrats don’t have a problem with Clinton winning the nomination, which is pretty much a done deal. Don’t indulge in the Bernie Sanders pipe dreams about superdelegates deserting Clinton en masse to swing the nomination his way. The superdelegates have a lot MORE loyalty to Clinton, and if the Clinton/Sanders race were reversed, Sanders might be worried superdelegates would swing her way.

            If Sanders doesn’t have a shot, no other non-running candidate will.

            And yes, polls in May aren’t 100% predictive of November results. They’ve only been right in 11 of the last 15 contests. May polls that show one candidate with a 100+ Electoral College advantage, though, have been right in predicting the November winner 100% of the time (Reagan x 2, Clinton 1996, Obama 2008).

            Put it another way, one that I’ve posted before (maybe in this very thread): if Clinton wins all the states that Democrats have carried in EVERY election for the past 24 years, AND Florida, she wins the election. Period. She doesn’t have to win Ohio, North Carolina, or Colorado. And she doesn’t even have to win Florida.

            Based on current polling, Clinton takes Florida and Ohio, and wins the Electoral College 347-191. Clinton can lose Ohio, North Carolna, and Florida, and still win the general as long as she wins Colorado (where her lead over Trump is wider).

            http://www.270towin.com/news/2016/05/05/ny-times-upshot-electoral-map-looks-challenging-for-trump_289.html

            Basically, the race comes down to Colorado, Florida, North Carolina, and Ohio. If Clinton wins all the states that have voted Democratic in 6 straight elections, and wins ONE of those four states, she’s the next President. That’s a pretty low bar for her to clear. Very low. The only way Trump challenges Clinton is if he makes up 10 points on Clinton nationally. That is highly unlikely to happen.

          • Sactowns#1

            I assure you, she will never be elected.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            ??

          • Captain Obvious

            If you are saying that Trump will win the election, I’d be willing to bet large sums of money with you.

            If you’re saying she won’t be elected because she’s going to have a stroke, get assassinated, or that some new scandal will gut her chances before November, I don’t disagree that those are possible, but all of them are pretty slim odds.

            If you’ve looked at any national polling or Electoral College trends & projections, you are willfully blind if you think that Trump has a snowball’s chance against Clinton as things stand now. And if, despite that, you think that circumstances will change to make up a 9-point national lead and 100+ Electoral College votes, you’re banking on something very improbable happening. In other words, you’re doing wishful thinking.

            I don’t want Trump to win, but at least I’ve got numbers & facts on my side when I’m doing my wishing.

          • I like Bern too, but the machine feeds off ignorance.

            Hillary will likely win. I called it like in 2006.

        • willbest

          Yes, if right of center people were forced into the 3rd circle of hell and had to choose between the two, the one that is waiting to collect his bribes until he is out of the oval office is much preferred.

          As to Trump I can only surmise that you aren’t actually paying attention to anything he said.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Not just Americans man. I don’t hate Trump, he’s just a joke .. but Hilary’s a Bilderberger and one of Satan’s minions.

          Not that it makes any difference which sock puppet is held up.

          • MB30SD

            Yep

        • Big Mike

          I don’t understand the level of vitriol against Hillary Clinton. Since before she was first lady, when Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas there were people who just hated her. It has caused her worst character trait and that is trying to cover up any mistakes she made, or bad thing that happened on her watch. With her it is always the aftermath, never the incident that damages her reputation.

          From Whitewater, to Benghazi, to emails and speeches to Wall Street, any wrongdoing or perceived wrong doing gets magnified x10 then x100 and then x1000 when she starts backpedaling. Bush invaded and trashed a whole fucking region of the world and the economy tanked under his watch. He’s beat Hillary in a heart beat. I don’t get it. Trump has done the impossible he’s pissed off social conservatives, hog tied moderate republicans, insulted over half the population of the world, Over and Over and Over again, but has found a base of supporters. SMH

          • Sactowns#1

            One thing people respect about the right is they are willing to take a position, right or wrong, and stand behind it. Hillary is a disingenuous and dishonest person. She just oozes smarm.

          • Big Mike

            Whatever, the question isn’t whether Hillary is perfect. She’s been in the public eye for so long changes in her views on issues are a good thing. Flip flopping within 1 election cycle is common among all front runners, from both parties since Reagan was elected at least. Any politician who has been in office a long time is likely to have changed their views on any number of topics.
            With regard to the right, pretty sure there are just as many flip flops, but they aren’t even close to newsworthy because Trump and Cruz are such horrible candidates.
            I’m not a huge Hillary fan, but given the choices we have, she seems to me to be the only viable candidate and as such, I’m looking for the positives. In spite of her smarm, she has a very good chance of being able to work more closely with a republican house and senate than Obama did.

          • willbest

            Well she started out grabbing a third rail political issue rather than the typical feeding orphan puppies the FLOTUS is supposed to do. Add to that she is exceptionally tone deaf and elitist making her unlikeable. Then there is all the corruption, and the covering up of the corruption. And yes people are convinced its a sham marriage only for political purposes. Driven home by the fact that she didn’t go back to IL or AR but merc’d her way into US Senator spot in New York. Where by the way she voted for the same war as all the Democrats with the same information Bush had. But went long on hypocrisy and short on humility when it came time to run.

            Toss all that on top of her taking policy positions that people don’t like and you have 46% of the country that will not vote for her.

          • Big Mike

            It’s more about the not liking and personality issues for her than any other politician. The corruption is alleged, so what if it is a sham marriage. Congress absolutely didn’t have the same information as Bush.

            Leaving policy positions that aren’t popular. Which is where a conversation should start. Unpopular positions, are often the right positions. That’s where the debate and analysis needs to be.

          • willbest

            You mean other than Trump who has at least been a politician since 2000 even if he has never held office. Look I get what you are saying about all politicians are shady. But could you perhaps entertain the idea you are suffering from a bit of bias? Your defense of Hillary every time boils down to, yeah but X politician did worse. That isn’t the rule of law. That is saying certain people have special privileges and she is one of them. There is just so much smoke there.

            Incidentally, I am more willing to cut her some slack on Libya. Not because I agree with the US policy there, I think it was horrible. But I view that as being more she was just bad at her job and not criminal. At least based on what I have read about the situation there.

          • Big Mike

            I don’t even like Hillary. Just seems she is held to a difference standard and has been since as long as I can remember

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            “take a position, right or wrong, and stand behind it”…I don’t think you can file Trump in that category. Or Rubio. Or Cruz. The list is pretty lengthy.

          • She’s a cunt, or at the very least, comes off as a cunt.

            Like a calculated unfeeling cunt, at that.

            She has NONE of the charm of her husband.

            Say what you will about Slick WIlly, but guy was personable. He played jazz on the Arsenio Hall show. Lot of anecdotes say that when you talked to him, it felt like he really listened and cared, liket you were the only one in the room.

            Mrs Clinton has NONE of that.

            Add her establishment ties and fuckups, or just political stance REPs object too, and it’s rather easy to see why REPs hate her.

            Also, she represents the Clintion Era, to an extent.

            That era is thought of fondly by many americans, a time of relative prosperity, peace, boom and the world didn’t hate us.

            REPs also hate that (compare that to the GW era) and don’t want to be reminded how they haven’t done shit since Ike.

          • Big Mike

            Big Mike out.

        • Captain Obvious

          You underestimate the GOP hatred of Obama.

          This is a party that is willing to lose its Senate majority in a fruitless attempt to keep Obama from getting a Supreme Court justice. With the likely result of the general that Hillary gets elected, there will almost certainly be a much left-ier nomination that gets confirmed by a Democratic Senate. Granted, the GOP Senate leadership couldn’t 3 months ago foresee the current election situation, but now they’re stuck: they either continue to stonewall Obama, or they capitulate and appoint a relative moderate to the Court–losing their rabid base in the process.

          The GOP loses either way–they’re going to get Garland or someone further left. If they “settle” for Garland, they look like idiots, lose their base support, and still lose the Senate. If they continue to stonewall, they definitely lose the Senate, and get a more liberal voice (than Garland) on the court for 20+ years (instead of Garland’s 10+).

          This absurdist political theatre and the shit-sandwich result for the GOP was entirely due to: 1) Their absolute contempt and hatred for Obama, trying to prevent him from getting anything done, even when he offers the most palatable candidate imaginable; 2) The xenophobic, anti-establishment lurch of the party’s base, resulting in the worst GOP presidential nominee in living memory.

          So, Hillary might be disliked by a lot of people in the electorate (thanks in part to a persistent smear campaign… neither Benghazi nor her email server are even remotely relevant to her ability or qualifications for office. I don’t like her for another reason–I don’t think that she’s entitled to any office, and she acted like being First Lady qualified her for her Senate seat, and more). But Obama is viscerally hated by elected GOP officials. So much so that a Republican health care plan gets vilified with his name and fought tooth and nail in every way the GOP can imagine.

          I have more, but my blood pressure is already going too high.

          Let me sum up with this. I, and other veterans, have been mis-treated and underserved by many elected officials and government agencies. I realize, though, that it’s not the Presidents I’ve served under (GHW Bush, Clinton, GW Bush) or Obama who is to blame for this. Congress controls the appropriations, and has done an unimaginally crappy job funding active duty troops and veterans. And then the Congress points the finger of blame at the President. Fuck Congress. Fuck the GOP. Fuck the Packers.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            We elected a guy to the Senate because he was a great football coach; hard to imagine Hillary being considered unqualified next to that.
            There is no “qualified” for higher public office, and hasn’t been for a long, long time.

          • MB30SD

            All of that

          • Capt Obv 4 Prez!

  • Irish Sweetness
  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    So… JoePa knew that Sandusky was raping as early as 1976.

    Guess that destroys the “senile old man” argument. Any other Happy Valley apologists want to crawl from the woodwork? Didn’t think so.

    • Scharfinator

      Paterno deserved the same sentence as Sandusky, but he went and croaked instead. Maybe there is a fitting punishment wherever he is now.

      • Big Mike

        Here’s a question. If this were the Bears, could you still be a fan? Under what circumstances? Would they have to tear Halas hall down and re-start? Or could you forgive the organization, but not the criminal?

        I’m torn. My brain says, no longer a Bears fan. My gut says as long as the bad guys were dealt with.,. Not sure

        • Captain Obvious

          Depends on who knew. If you’re talking the 1976 Bears, and it was only the coaching staff, I can move on.

          The problem with Penn State–and any university, really–is that the coaching staff is part of the university. The university is absolutely culpable. JoePa was a state employee. The Bears are a privately-held corporation, and there is a lot more coaching turnover in the pro ranks compared to college. Organizationally, there is little common ground between the 1976 Bears and the 2016 Bears–while there is quite a bit in common between Penn State during the JoePa era and today.

          • Big Mike

            Interesting points. I have a friend who is a Penn State Alum and a huge fan of Penn State Football. He’s unapologetic and seems brainwashed on this issue. His argument tries to separate the institution from the crimes. My point is the institution created the environment for these crimes to happen.

            Your point about turnover is solid. Other than a shared history and Virginia McCaskey, there are zero connections going back even 15 years, maybe even 10. I think I would come around.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Pro teams have cultures, just like any other organization.

          • Captain Obvious

            Except, as an example, the Bears only moved into their present facilities in 1997. It has the same name, and some of the people working for the organization are in the same (or similar jobs), but the Bears organization of 2016 is very different in most ways than the Bears organization of 1996.

            The “culture” that is shared between the two time periods is more of a shared history of the less recent past.

            That’s much different from a college team, which tend to have longer institutional connections, stay in facilities on the same campus, and have ties and traditions that go back for longer than the 50-80year average for NFL teams. Penn State was founded in 1855, and started playing football in 1877. The Bears are the oldest NFL franchise (one of the founding franchises), and Penn State football was 42 years old when the Bears were founded.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            The facilities are pretty irrelevant to my point….and the culture at PSU relating to football would really trace back to Paterno’s start there, not 1877. The Halas family ownership predates that by, what, 30-40 years?

          • Captain Obvious

            My point is that there is a lot more cultural “inertia” in college football. Everything lasts longer, stays around longer–except players.

            Sure, ownership in the NFL CAN last a long time. But I would argue that post-Papa Bear, the ownership has had a lot less impact on the Bears than college traditions/culture have on college football teams.

            We’e arguing about something absurd, so I’ll stop and concede you have a point. I have one, too. It doesn’t matter.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Agreed.

          • Big Mike

            So what would you do? Bears fan still or not? What would make you stay?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Nope. Under similar circumstances as what happened at PSU? Nope.
            I’d be done.

          • Captain Obvious

            Exactly. Though I’d have to think long and hard about it, and would probably feel a little slimy if it was the Bears and I stuck with them, even in the “best case scenario.”

            Sandusky’s crimes are the type of thing where you HAVE to err on the side of the victim, where you HAVE to overreact. You DON’T give someone the benefit of the doubt when kids might be abused. You have a witch hunt, and apologize to bruised egos later.

            Penn State football needs to be burned down, buried, and re-built from scratch after a 4-year hiatus.

          • Big Mike

            But what would all the alums do on Saturday? That was pretty much their argument. It is sickening.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          I would be done. I wanted PSU kicked out of the B1G for a few years.

          • Big Mike

            Ok. There it is.

        • willbest

          New owners.
          What do you think of Hollywood? Woody Allen is a pedophile and nobody gives a flop. Roman Polanski was convicted and fled the country, yet he is defended by people such as Whoopi as his encounter not being rape rape.
          Soccer gets a bad rap, but the Qatar World Cup is literally being built with slave labor, in addition to all the kiddie diddling, genital mutilation, and homosexual murdering they allow. How many people are going to withdraw support in protest? You think Hollywood that put the screws to Georgia over their benign little law, is going to pass up any broadcast revenue?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I agree that it’s disgusting that Polanski and Woody Allen are still given a pass. Ditto on Qatar. But that’s par for the course for FIFA.
            The beautiful game is rotten to the core.

          • CanadaBear

            The Olympics aren’t far behind.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Don’t disagree at all – I was going to mention Beijing, Sochi, and Rio in particular. They would probably give it to Pyongyang if the money was right.

          • CanadaBear

            Samaranch practically had open bribes on the table.

          • Big Mike

            You certainly bring up valid points, but a discussion of the Qatar world cup and the whole world cup organizing committee is criminally insane. Every tiny country has a rep that is on the take to the tune of millions, Qatar is nothing more than a country built on bribes and found wealth (oil). It is the wealthiest corrupt nation in the world and it teamed up with the most corrupt sports organization in the history of mankind. There isn’t a crime or atrocity that wouldn’t be swept under the table getting ready for this event. Soccer, in the dessert with temperatures approaching 115 degrees on the field should have been a non-starter.
            Hollywood, whatever.. there are opinions on both sides Woody Allen and Roman Polansi aren’t exactly worshipped by Hollywood. More likely tolerated. The crimes are also over 40 years ago (aren’t they? )
            But the Bears.. are the beloved. New Owners.. that makes sense

          • willbest

            Doesn’t matter if they don’t serve time. But if you can support Hillary then you sort of know where your boundaries are. Bill has been accused of rape by several women, and Hillary attacked all of them. In addition he has been proven through SS records to have taken 12 trips to pedo island. Now maybe his billionaire bundler buddy and convicted sex offender Epstein cleaned out the under 18’s before Bill got there, but its nonsensical to think that Monica was the last one.

          • Big Mike

            Never mind.

          • Sactowns#1

            Well someone’s been boning up on their Rush Limbaugh ad hominem talking points.

        • CanadaBear

          If many people in the org knew about it and looked the other way, I’d be done.

          • Big Mike

            That seems to be the consensus. How “institutional” was it, and what was done once someone knew. Which pretty much says none of you would continue to support Penn State football. They’d have to kill the program and even that doesn’t let the school off the hook.

          • CanadaBear

            There’s no way in hell I could support PSU after the facts came out. I was never a fan to start with but that would have ended it for sure. Even if I was an alum, I could no longer support the team.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Jordan Reed just got 10M a year. Not hard to see why (from NFL.COM) :

    Cousins with Reed on the field: 421 pass plays, 7.7 pass yards per attempt, 24-4 TD-to-INT ratio, 111.9 passer rating.

    Cousins without Reed on the field: 148 pass plays, 6.2 pass yards per attempt, 5-7 TD-to-INT ratio, 73.3 passer rating.

    • Reed is the TE version of Alshon.

      Great #s…when he’s not inj.

      I also believe he’s one concussion away from retirement.

  • Big Mike

    is this thing on?

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Where’s the YES guy when you actually need him?

      • The Yes Guy

        YES?

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Perfect.

          • The Yes Guy

            Yes!

        • Scharfinator

          Hahah well done

    • Captain Obvious

      No. It’s off until OTA.

  • willbest

    Follow up question. Would you be done with the Bears, or done with the NFL? And if you weren’t done with the NFL, which team would you select, or which couple teams would you investigate to select?

    • CanadaBear

      I’d be done.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      When there were rumors about Vick coming to Chicago after his reinstatement, I had to ponder that question.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m certainly no fan of Vick but I would still be a Bears fan.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          I’m still disappointed the guy has collected paychecks the last 7 years.

          • CanadaBear

            Being a dog and cat lover, I found it abhorrent. He paid his debt and has acted contrite. Still glad he was never a Bear.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I’ll just always disagree that he paid his debt. It particularly bothers me because I lived in that area for awhile, and the number of people there that worshiped him and never could admit he was in the wrong was pretty astonishing. He’s a folk hero in Hampton Roads.
            And now he’s back getting endorsement dollars, has a sneaker line, etc.
            The guy is a sociopath.

          • CanadaBear

            I really haven’t paid much attention to him since his release from jail. Everything that I read said he was doing the rounds for animal safety and on the surface, doing the right things. Of course, all that could be PR and a bunch of hooey. As much as I found what he did was despicable, it pales in comparison to what happened at PSU.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            “It was a sweltering day in September of 2007, and Reynolds was in Virginia to evaluate the 49 pit bulls found alive on Vicks’ property. A federal agent who had been at the scene when the property was searched was driving her to the various facilities holding the dogs, and they got to talking about what the investigation had turned up.

            “The details that got to me then and stay with me today involve the swimming pool that was used to kill some of the dogs,” Reynolds wrote on her blog. “Jumper cables were clipped onto the ears of underperforming dogs, then, just like with a car, the cables were connected to the terminals of car batteries before lifting and tossing the shamed dogs into the water.”

            I’m not a member of PETA or anything, but someone that can do that, not just finance it, is not far removed from a serial killer. He never once expressed personal responsibility for what HE did, not what he permitted.

          • willbest

            I presume then you are disappointed about all the abusers that still draw paychecks. Because I rather don’t care about Vick at this point. He served his time.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Yeah, I pretty much am. Try harder if you want to call me a hypocrite, will.
            Don’t be so fucking passive aggressive about it.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      I would not be done with the Bears, as long as anyone that possibly could have known, from a janitor all the way up to ownership if necessary, was removed and prosecuted appropriately.

  • CanadaBear
  • CanadaBear

    Hey MB the Giro just started today. Are you pulling for anyone?

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    New thread

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