• Celloguy

    I’ve always been a fan of tempering expectations and being pleasantly surprised. I voted for 7-9 wins, but I’m really hoping for a wildcard….

    • BillW

      My thoughts as well. But I may be lying to myself. I’m pretty sure I’ll be quite disappointed with less than 9 wins

    • chitownproud85

      This is where I’m at. I want so bad to see them WIN THE DIVISION AND EXTEND THE SEASON! I just dont see where the jump comes from. I think its still a full year away.

  • Trac

    Ok, the rest of you schmucks that didn’t select SB contenders deserve a timeout.

    Super Bowl or bust!

    • Irish Sweetness

      The year after Trac, definitely. Next year I’m expecting/demanding 1984. The third year of POX’ tenure I’m demanding/expecting the Lombardi. The QB we have. Backs we have. Wide receivers need to be better. Most of the OL is there. The DL is not there. We need another two ILBs and some quality backups for OLB. The safties may be there, but we need depth generally at DB. We need another TE. Taht’s all two years minimum of drafting and free agency if you want roster of 53 ballers that can sustain injuries all the way down the line.

      If Robbie doesn’t shit the bed we’re 8-8 this year. Got to expect an improvement of 3 or 4 games on this season.

      Next season is 1984. 10-6.

      • That Guy

        1984’s 10-6 is actually not unrealistic. But the defense isn’t going to be 1985 next year, even if we draft out of our minds both off-seasons.

        • Johnnywad

          It’s unlikely we’ll see the ’85 D again.

          • That Guy

            That’s fair. I don’t mean a generational defense, or a candidate for greatest defense of all time. What I meant was simply a dominant defense – a defense that can stop the best offenses in the league. Denver and Carolina both had that kind of defense this year. The whole NFC West has been like that for the past couple of years.

          • This Donkey’s D might’ve been the closest since perhaps the 2000 Ravens.

          • Johnnywad

            That’s what I was thinking. They both approached the 85 D but came up short. Cam survived the game. He wouldn’t have in 85.

          • Doc Nitty

            I think the Seattle D a couple of years ago is right up there as well.

        • Irish Sweetness

          No, talent-wise of course not, just the SB appearance part.

    • MB30SD

      Bingo!!!

      Buncha pussies

      • CanadaBear

        MEOW! Yeah, I went with between 7 and 9 wins. I’m always a little pessimistic going into a new season after a losing season. With some good signings and a good draft, I’m sure I’ll be more optimistic.

      • Trac

        Hahaha. You Sir remind me of what used to be great about this sport. Aaah that was such a long time ago, sigh.

    • willbest

      I think there is a difference between expectations from which I will judge the selection of Fox/Pace a failure, from desire. If they don’t control their playoff destiny in week 16/17, then they weren’t the right people for the job.

      • BerwynBomber

        Agreed. The “Hey, we’re competitive!” honeymoon is over.

        Plus, there are no world-beaters in the division.

        • willbest

          I don’t know. If the Vikings can score themselves some Drew Brees, that team would be redonk.

          • BerwynBomber

            Is that a publicized rumor or just a personal “what if”?

          • willbest

            The question in New Orleans is how much is Brees willing to do to stay with the Saints. 2016 is the last year of his contract. He is 37 years old, and is set to be $30 million against their cap ($20 million salary). They are already in cap hell ($4-7 million over the projected 2016 cap), so they are going to need to shed somewhere around $15 million just to sign their draft class, never mind qualify FA.

            So look at the situation. You have a QB that has only a couple years left in the tank, and you don’t even have the resources to begin working on that awful defense until 2017.

            Does Brees do a Tom Brady and play out on a team friendly $14 million a year for the next 3 years so the team has a chance to build a defense he can win a super bowl with in 2017 or 2018?

            Now Brees already has his SB ring, and is almost certainly a lock for Canton so he might not have the fire, but then not having the fire means not being too interested in taking a beating for 30% less than what you could get elsewhere.
            Brees is a standup guy, but it would not surprise me if he ends up getting the Peyton Manning Treatment back in 2012. And if Brees ends up a FA, Texans or Vikings would be the two places that give him the best shot to grab a second ring in his sunset years.

          • BerwynBomber

            There’s some logic to that, I suppose, but I gotta believe for Sean Payton to stick around there was some quid pro quo with Brees.

            My guess is Brees does the Brady thing, though that is MUCH easier to do in the Brady household given that the golden boy’s wife makes significantly more than he does.

      • Trac

        We were on the wrong side of fortune this year. Do you realize how many games we lost by the slimmest of margins? And that was with a bunch of shadow warriors.

        • willbest

          We been on the wrong side of fortune for 6 years. Cutler MCL in 10, Cutler busted thumb in 11. A 10-win playoff miss in 12. A missed punt, not picking the ball/etc from playoffs in along with defensive injuries galore in 13. A series of losses that snowballed into a mid morning drama in 14. And this year a decimated receiving core while the D put on a competent product. At some point you just have to say we been a bad team.

          • BerwynBomber

            The Cutler MCL in ’10 is debatable. He didn’t look good before the injury and had a horrible track record of performances against GB. I think we lose that game regardless.

            In terms of ’13, well the Cheese came up with the goods in the final drive. Plus, it wasn’t like they had good luck that year either as I believe Rodgers missed something like 8 games during which they went 1-7.

            But I’m with you on ’11 and ’12.

          • willbest

            Cheese weren’t playing that well and our D was keeping us in the NFCC. I don’t know if Cutler would have risen to the occasion if he had stayed in there, but it wouldn’t have taken much momentum to swing that game in our favor. I might also point out that in 10 he hadn’t solidified his rep with GB kicking him in the nuts regularly.

            13 our D just fell apart. We lost Melton and Collins in back to back weeks. And even Paea missed a few weeks. That was all 3 of our week 1 DT starts. You just can’t lose the interior of your line like that and expect things to go well. Toss in Briggs, Williams, Tillman, and it was a wonder we were even in it in week 17 let alone having chances to lock up the division in week 16 and even before that whenever we played MN.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          agreed it was like a couple made field goals could have made the season look totally different.

        • Irish Sweetness

          No excuses Trac. Excuses are for losers. We put together a strong enough roster where we’re just too good, and we roll over teams, winning games even when we’re bad.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Well, let’s see if we can get our 2015 #1 pick on the field and contributing like a #1 is expected to contribute.

      • Trac

        “If” White comes back good as new, and “if” Pace nails the 1st 2 picks that can be starters or major contributors this year, we got more than a punchers chance. I have no doubt the Bears are going to find some ballers through FA.

  • BearDown100393

    Perfect season. Super Bowl shutout victory. Jay Cutler league MVP.

    • The GP

      That’s your Madden season

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Super Bowl is a crap shoot, so I went with Division Champs.

  • That Guy

    9-10 wins is not a wildcard berth. This year in the NFC, the wildcard teams had 10 wins each. The AFC had one wildcard at 11 wins. 9-10 wins competes for a wildcard berth. 9 wins is usually not enough. Traditionally “10 gets you in,” but many times there are three wildcard competitors with 10 wins.

    9-10 wins is my prediction. I think our schedule should be weak, but we’ll need at least 10 wins to compete for the wildcard.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I submit that the concept of a weak schedule in the NFL is a myth.

      • That Guy

        I disagree. But it is true that the ability to accurately predict weak schedules is overrated.

      • Irish Sweetness

        The Panthers would disagree?

  • Doc Nitty

    Expectations? Damn. I’ve been down this road too many times. My expectations are to be surprised by whatever happens.

    I think I’ll employ the lessons I learned watching baseball last season. Just watch the games to enjoy the games. Root like hell but don’t waste time on hope. The fun is in the competition and the battles on Sunday. Whatever will be will be.

    • CanadaBear

      My, how philosophical of you Doc. Sounds like a good plan!

      • Doc Nitty

        I’m either a sage, or despondently bitter. Not sure which.

        • CanadaBear

          Let’s go with the former.

          • SC Dave

            This

  • The GP
  • SC Dave

    I’m on the 9-10 wins, with an improbable trip to lose the NFC Championship in Charlotte.

    Then Super Bowl dominance… 9 appearances in the succeeding 11, with 8 victories. The sole loss coming to….

    … a resurgent…

    *Jacksonville*!!

  • AlbertInTucson

    Steve Czaban: “The Panthers blew it. They played a D-minus game and still had it within their grasp to win it.”

    https://audioboom.com/boos/4161706-2-09-2016-czaban-hour-2

    • The GP

      Chico and the Gang got badly, badly outcoached. He went in with the same O they ran all playoffs and Denver had the whole thing schemed.

      • SC Dave

        This!!!

      • But Chico, like Lovie, is a defensive guy. He can’t all of a sudden become Martz in the SB. He had to trust his OC, and I would say his OC (Shula?) was outcoached.

        Panther’s D did more than enough to win.

        But even if one were to say Shula got outcoached, I’m not sure what more he could’ve done.

        Broncos were intent on stopping the run, esp Cam’s run.

        So, OK. playbook says, counter with the pass, but Cam’s passing % is like 54%? And his WRs aren’t exactly all world and dropped more than a few. Between the two, it’s hard to say, “Ok, air it out now cam.”

        That’s the problem with running QBs. That’s the same reason Kap lost in the SB too. If he just had a bit more touch, a bit more knowledge, maybe diff outcome, but if Shula suddenly made teh game plan to air it out (counter to what they’ve been doing all season), and that smothering secondary picked him off 3 times, and sacked him 4 more, then we’d be hearing the opposite criticism, “WHY did they change when they were steamrolling to the SB?”.

        Denver D was just too much. They were dominant, and likely would’ve beat down Cam either way. Cam shriveled. Von Miller transcended (like I thought he might). Game. blouses.

        • Scharfinator

          You’re kidding me right? I’m no expert, but even I know little RB screens and TE dump passes slow down those hyper aggressive rushes. There were no slants or any type of quick passes.

          What the fuck were they thinking?

          • The GP

            that

          • I don’t remember them doing a lot of slants or screens in the regular season.
            They were a vertical passing attack all season with Ginn.

            They would establish the run. Then hit some deep balls, or go to Olson from time to time, but for them to become slants/screen team, that just wasn’t them.

            Olsen SHOULD’VE shown up, but again, the Denver LBs are great in coverage too.

            Denver D also the fastest, so even if they would’ve done screens and dump-offs, I bet it would’ve been shut down fast.

            Denver D just too good on all facets.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Denver were one of those teams that had the players who could recognise screens.

          • BillW

            Exactly – and that’s the point. Shula had two weeks to figure out something to counteract the Denver defense. Not saying it would have worked, but his offensive game plan seemed to be grounded in the same arrogance his QB gets accused of.

            “If you don’t like my dancing, then stop me from scoring” – Cam Newton

            “OK” – Denver defense

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’m just curious – what would you do against the Denver D? What could the Patriots have done against us in ’86? They were a running team, and they came out and tried to pass it. We would have screwed them either way.

          • Irish Sweetness

            A lot of that has to fall on Cam’s shoulders. He’s the one sitting at the chess-board moving the pieces.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Yeah, people place too much emphasis on coaches. I couldn’t give a fuck about Gase leaving. You put a strong OL in there, no weak links, and whatever you want to happen, will happen. Shula didn’t get out-coached, his dad was the best there was, he grew up with the greatest. Von Miller & Co. are what beat the Panthers. End of. Just like Buddy Ryan didn’t ‘outcoach’ the Pats OC.

      • Irish Sweetness

        They just had the better players in the matchups. The best players win.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Most laughable Phil Simms comment: “He threw it too hard for Ginn to catch.”

    Yep. I can see Peyton retiring right into Phil Simms’ seat in the booth.

    • BerwynBomber

      I have always considered him the worst of the 1st team analysts (Collingsworth, Aikman and Gruden) and it is mainly because of the occasion brain-dead comments like that.

      In fairness, Simms can give you as much information as Collingsworth or Aikman but the latter two mostly avoid those occasional Simms-isms.

      IMO, Gruden runs circles around them all, but the problem with him is you get the ESPN booyah shtick.

      Aikman has the lowest annoying factor of the four.

      • willbest

        Aikman is my favorite. I don’t have cable so I almost never hear Gruden.

        • BerwynBomber

          I concur about Aikman. I learn more from Gruden, but unfortunately it gets co-packaged with his zany Chuckie shtick which I’m betting ESPN encourages. Plus, MNF forever lost its prestige once SNF started. Now it (MNF) feels no better than a slightly improved version of TNF.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I like Aikman the least because of his biases. One of the most over-rated and luckiest QBs of all-time to boot.

    • BerwynBomber

      Btw, the networks bidding war over Peyton should be intense. The guy is a natural in front of the camera. He is actually a decent actor — utterly nailed his scenes on SNL the one time he hosted.

      I just wonder if he’s not better suited for a studio desk than the announcing booth.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        He’ll be making deals with Billionaires to buy companies not making 600,000 to host a show on a network. Unless they gave him a multi million dollar deal with ultimate time flexibility I don’t see how he does it.

        • SC Dave

          Except he gets to stay around pro football that way

        • willbest

          He can take Strahans job opposite Kelly. Marino was making $2 million a year working that gig once a week. So its a bit more than you think

    • BearDown100393

      The ball could be thrown underhand and Ginn would still drop the pass.

      • Doc Nitty

        One of my good friends was a dolphins fan when they picked Ginn with their first overall selection. I wish I could have packaged that look on his face. So priceless.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Ginn was fantasy gold at time this year.

  • AlbertInTucson
    • That Guy

      Atlanta cut a couple of players the should be looking at.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Jahri Evans for a one-year deal. Draft a dude behind him?

  • CanadaBear

    I thought you guys should read this. I was visiting my bike riding buddy of 25+ years (from Wisconsin originally and a Fudgie fan) over the weekend. At some point we start talking about announcers and his GF (another WI/Fudgie fan) says she doesn’t like Aikman because he hates Erin. He never says anything positive about him. Granted she’s not exactly the “go to” person for football info, but I was stunned. All I said was he sure says nice stuff about him every time the Fudge hammer the Beloved.

  • chitownproud85

    Will be grateful if they can break the .500 mark. Get there, and then lets discuss the rest. I expect them to do just that this season, but I’m not so sure they make the playoffs yet. Unless Kevin White just goes nuts in his “rookie” season, and the o-line jumps(what position makes this jump based on current personnel?), and Matt stays…I dont see where the offensive production comes from to get them to the 10 wins probably needed. If they dont get it, it will lay largely on the defense, and that has more holes than the offense. Home run free agency(how often does this happen), or HOME RUN draft, or this season ends up the 2nd stone, placed only ever so slightly above the last, in the staircase of the beloved’s ascension.Patience not expected, but will be required.

    • Trac

      Really? You don’t think a healthy WR Corps could transform our offense overnight? I do.

      • Sactowns#1

        Nope. With Cutler at the helm this is about how our offense will produce. Get us some takeaways, made FG’s and a little better D and we’ll be there.

        • chitownproud85

          Agreed. A field goal or two this year would/could have altered the record in the UP direction, but again, I fully believe that next year ends very similarly to this year(I guess assuming a positive result to those ridiculously close games instead of heartbreaking losses). Dont see the teams being significantly different(unless worse because all the aforementioned players end up gone)

          • Irish Sweetness

            But we weren’t good enough. If we were good enough, then our roster can take injuries, guys shitting the bed. It couldn’t, so we weren’t. Two more years.

        • willbest

          If we had Alshon healthy the entire season there would have been at least 2 more wins. And if White can even live up to 75% of the hype surrounding him, it would have been 3. You are right that the D needs to improve. It preformed well in the bend don’t break, but it lacked TOs and QB pressure relying too much on the philosophy its hard to put 14-play drives together and if you can force your opponent to have to go 5 yards a play good things eventually happy.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Takeaways. Precisely. We all look better with takeaways.

      • chitownproud85

        Eh. Agreed that there is some talent in that group, and its diverse in its skill set. Will Marty be back? Zach? Matty ice? Alshon back and healthy? Kevin White get to play? Eddie Royal stays on the field? Do we assume Jay doesnt “regress” at all losing bromance OC? Does Jay continue his arc of improved play? O-line’s assumed(admittedly, assumed) problems rectified? Cant see it transforming overnight. Too much working against it. I think next year will be a 2-3 game improvement in the win column from an improved defense and a continually improving Jay Cutler, but playoffs are still out of reach.

        • chitownproud85

          Oh and as Sac pointed out, a few made field goals will assist that 2-3 game improvement. Teams will be similar, but I think more goes the beloveds way next year than against it. I can feel my heart shuddering as I type that optimistic sentence. Cmon boys, bring it home

      • Irish Sweetness

        Healthy? You mean healthy and with some serious additions right?

        Alshon is a #2 IMO. KW is probably a #1, but we’ll be missing AJ for a periods most likely … if he’s even a Bear. This we don’t know yet.

    • BerwynBomber

      If the O-line is as good as it was this past year, we are fine there. It rated in the top 10 in the league in terms of pass protection.

      Kevin White and improved D talent could be the big game changers.

    • Irish Sweetness

      You think Pace is going to sit on his hands in free agency and we’re not going to draft anybody?

      I expect 6 new starters/rotation players on the team next year who are not currently on the roster.

  • TBC

    I expect the Bears to still suck

    • Beat the Pack at Lambeau on Favre night.
      What does that make the puke?

      • Trac

        To be truthful, Favre prolly accounted for half the Bears wins against the cheese when he played for the peckers so a loss to the Bears that night was fitting.

        • I’m almost positive Favre LOVED the Bears beating Rodgers that night.
          What better way to crown his ass.

          #schadenfreude

          • CanadaBear

            Favre’s a jagoff but he would be fun to hang with (I’m guessing you’d at least have some laughs). If you were stuck with Erin for an evening I’m guessing either it would be all about Erin or him crying because it’s not all about Erin.

          • I’ve always liked Favre. If he were a Bear, he’d be beloved I bet.
            To me, he’s an everyday guy. Battled some drinking/popping issues. Cheated on his wife. Sent his weiner pic to younger messuse. Does wrangler jeans.

            What is there not to like? (Besides being a fudge, but even then, he gave them the middle finger when he put on purple).

            I think Pack fans feel the same way about Lach.

          • BerwynBomber

            I’ve always wondered if anyone in the Cheese brain trust regrets the decision to have Rodgers ride pine for a few years. Farve had that one flashback year and got them to the NFCC (where he threw the game-deciding INT) but hindsight being 20/20 says they could have gotten a few more years out of a young Rodgers and shipped Farve off and gotten a semi-king’s ransom in return.

            Then again, that would have been an incredibly ballsy decision and their fan base would have probably wanted to string up management for public hangings.

          • BerwynBomber

            I don’t know. There was a lot of hillbilly diva to Favre.

          • CanadaBear

            A lot of diva but also a fun loving guy. Who knows?

          • Cormonster

            The difference between Favre and Rodgers: Favre’s the kind of guy who would whip out his dick and then make a joke about how small it is. A little strange, but probably induce a head shaking chuckle. Rodgers, on the other hand, would ask you to play with his or ask to play with yours, and then get offended and cry like a baby when you politely declined.

          • Johnnywad

            Same thing I was just thinking Cor. Same exact thing.

          • BerwynBomber

            So you too were thinking about their dicks?

            Hey, I’ll be here all week. Don’t forget to tip your waitress.

          • Johnnywad

            “You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?”……..

          • Sactowns#1
          • Johnnywad
          • Sactowns#1

            I thought that was odd too. If there’s something you gentlemen need to tell us just go right ahead. NTTAWWT

          • MB30SD

            Hahahahaha, that was funny

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            I got to hang out with Favre years ago. He was driving back home after a season and he made an overnight stop in my hometown because of a snow storm. Him and another guy(don’t remember who he was) walk into the bar. Because of the snow storm it was just me and 3 of my friends in the bar. We all recognized him immediately, but acted like we did not. We started bashing the Packers and saying shit about him as if we did not know who he was. He laughed through everything and we were buying drinks back and forth. When the Favre bashing got to the point of being ridiculous he finally looked at us and said “You SOBs know who I am, don’t you?” The gig was up and we all had a good laugh, he bought all our drinks the rest of the night, just for fucking with him. After that i don’t think we talked much about football the rest of the night. He was definitely fun to hang out with.

          • Doc Nitty

            Great story.

          • MB30SD

            Nice story.

            Fuck that cunt.

          • MB30SD

            Seriously, guy is such a dbag

          • BearDown100393

            He was definitely enjoying the moment. And it showed when he was on the broadcast.

        • CanadaBear

          Lovie’s D figured out Favre and beat him towards the end of his GB career. Pretty sure Lovie beat Erin the first time they played. After that, not so much.

          • TBC

            Rodgers Beat the bears 37-3 in his first game.

          • BillW

            More accurately, the Packers beat the Bears 37-3 in Rodgers’ first game against the Bears.

            The guy is a great QB; but HE didn’t beat the Bears 37-3. Either the GB defense had a lot to do with it, or an inept Bears offense, or both.

          • CanadaBear

            The Bears beat Rodgers in the second game that season 20-17.

        • TBC

          Favre was 22-10 against the Bears as a Packer

          • BerwynBomber

            Favre played well against us. Rodgers (up to this point) has owned us.

            The difference in their winning percentage against us probably comes down to one guy being the all-time INT leader and the other guy having the lowest all-time INT per attempt rating. Because it seemed like Favre had the advantage of facing more inferior Bears teams.

          • Irish Sweetness

            And McMahon owned the Packers tot he point where they fucking hired him. History schmistory.

            Next. Season. Cheese ownage.

          • Trac

            Yes but I remember more than a few losses by Favre because of careless interceptions.

          • Irish Sweetness

            History means nothing. We’re going to kick your ass twice next season and keep you out of the playoffs

  • Lots to like about the Bears.
    Odd stuff. We competed vs Cards, Broncos, Hawks, Skins, (and beat the Pack and Chiefs, all playoff teams), but then turn around and lose to the Gabbert 9ers.

    I’m not exactly sure what that says about the coaching staff, but one of the criticisms Elway passively aggressively shot at Fox was that he didn’t get his team up to BEAT elite teams, and a lot of times the Bears did come out flat. Close but no cigar Fox.

    Hopefully, Bears can learn how to close the deal this season.

    • BillW

      Many of us have said this several times (probably you too). Fox was brought here for his experience in building trust in players and a competent staff. To give them much needed stability.

      He delivered in impressive fashion. The Bears were utter laughingstocks at the end of the ’14 season. That is now a thankfully fading memory. Like a very realistic bad dream.

      I suspect there is enough to dislike about Fox, but I can’t get myself there. Can he deliver a Super Bowl for the Bears? Perhaps not. The coach that does that will likely be in our future (Fangio?) Right now I suspect with a couple decent moves there will be at least some “experts” that will make us a sleeper pick for the division.

      A huge step up.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Fox is doing his job. Pace is doing his. They have three years to put a team together, like anyone. Fangio I’m not so sure about – but if POX give him the players then it’s hard to mess up.

    • BerwynBomber

      Just a nit but did we compete against the Cards? At the time of Cutty’s pick six/pulled hammy, we were down 14. Yeah, I know, the Pickles factor. But Cutty or no Cutty, I sensed we were about to get rolled.

      • We were hanging in there. It was a tight game really until the damn broke, if memory serves.

        Also, the other odd part is that those very same teams we competed with, utterly destroyed other “better” teams.

        For example, we put up way more of a game vs the Cards than the Puke did, that’s for sure.

        And after seeing this SB, we probably put up a better fight than the vaunted Panthers.

        Granted, they had a Osweiler, but one might argue that was an upgrade over Peyton.

        And we beat the Pack and Chiefs, and both teams dominated other playoff teams (the pack soundly beat SEA, while the chiefs whooped Donkeys in denver).

        So in theory, we are close, but gotta take the next step in 16

        • Doc Nitty

          We lost to the Hawks 26-0 when they were still reeling. We beat the chiefs before they figured out how to play. the cards? Week 2? We were at home and lost by two scores.

          We were 1-7 at home last year. How close were we?

          • The Hawk was a ONE score game late into the 3rd with fucking Pickles playing IN sea.

            No way should that have ever been in the realm of possibility. Then SEA utterly spanked the Cards later in the season (the 2nd one). That game was essentially over by the 2nd qtr.

            So really, we put up more of a fight vs SEA than the Cards.

            That’s what I’m saying. We’re close. Most games were one score games in mid 3rd, but we just unraveled for one reason or another (D finally broke. Cutty INT. Missed FG/specials fuck up).

            Like I said. we need to close the deal. This team has to learn how to eke out those close games.

            I was hoping they turned a corner in GB, but nah.

          • Irish Sweetness

            There were big holes in teams like the Cards and Hawks. I think Atlanta beat the Cards and Panthers. Atlanta were not good.

          • MB30SD

            Wow Debbie downer! Sometimes delusions are fun!

          • Doc Nitty

            Apologies.

          • MB30SD

            Hahahaha

          • Doc Nitty

            And never call me Debbie.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Nah. The truth hurts. 1-7. We are what our record says we were.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’d guess Ware and Miller were not in there against the Chiefs?
          Like us facing the Dolts in SB 41 without Tommie Harris and Mike Brown.

    • Doc Nitty

      We competed against the Hawks? 26-0 is not competitive my friend. I don’t care what the half time score was. We didn’t even field a QB for that game.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Division Champs at the very least. Health is going to be the key though because we won’t have a deep team but we may have talent at the starting positions to win games.

    • Trac

      No Yonny. Greg Olsen is the key, if only the Bears can get him back. Hee hee.

      • SC Dave

        I’d take him over anyone we have now at TE. But it’s early yet.

        • MB30SD

          You mean WR dave, TEs don’t fall down on their own. Gronk is a real TE.

          I’d def take him over any of our WRs not named alshon… or possibly white (tbd)

        • Trac

          Who do you throw to when you need TE yardage(if you know what I mean) my man? Child, please.

    • Irish Sweetness

      That’s why heady expectations should be kept in check – we don’t have all the starters yet, never mind the depth. Two years.

  • The GP
  • AlbertInTucson

    The Trestman experience was enough to temper anybody’s expectations.

  • AlbertInTucson

    So, Cam Newton comes out today and basically RE-AFFIRMS what jerk he is.

    Nobody, from a teammate, to Ron Rivera to owner (and former player) Jerry Richardson dared to take him aside and have a heart-to-heart with Superman after yesterday’s post-game embarrassment?

    That’s almost as sad as Newton’s attitude.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, the doubling down on the sore loser thing was a bit odd.

      • CanadaBear

        I get his point but that’s probably not the best time to bring that up. I’m sure he’ll grow up. Cutler acted like a jagoff a few times when he was younger but now he does all the unpleasant stuff with the media pretty well.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I always thought Cutty did very well with the pressers after shitting the bed. But then he was never the big celebration guy, very even-keel. When Cutty walks off the field you wouldn’t know if he’d won or lost by looking at him. Like Walter.

          That’s the thing I liked most about Walter. No celebrations. All of these guys look like idiots with their celebrations. You can tell they were in the locker room “I’m gonna do this .. and then you do this … and then we all do this…”. They look like five year olds, except not cute. It’s pathetic.

    • Maybe Steve Smith can return and punch him in the face.

    • BearDown100393

      Rivera is making excuses for Newton and IMO that is very bad sign for the Panthers organization. Newton has previously been quoted, “Winning excuses everything”. Well that does not apply to losing. The double down attitude does reaffirm the AIT’s assertion because it completely removes any plausible defense (Broncos interview in the same room, proximity to the end of the game, etc). Rivera, Gettleman and perhaps Richardson himself have now enabled and empowered Newton in a manner that would not be acceptable for any of his teammates. A NFL player learning he is bigger than the team never ends well. And I suspect, neither will this for the Panthers. Looking more like a 1 and done for this group.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Speaking of “excuse making”. It’s been reported that the Browns placed Manziel in the concussion protocol to cover the fact that he showed up drunk for work.

        The Browns deny the story.

        • BearDown100393

          I don’t think the Browns are going to cover for Manziel now. Their own rear ends however is a different story.

  • Trac

    Hmm, the Bears actually ranked 21st in scoring differential last year. 21st / -3.9 points. I thought they had done better than that.

    http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/average-scoring-margin-point-differential-per-game/2015/

  • RenoBear

    Hey fellow blog brethren… I’m flying from Reno to Orlando to be with my dad, my mother just passed away unexpectedly. They’ve been together 54 years, married for 51 of them. I lost my mom this morning which flat out sucks, it hurts so bad. As hard as this is losing my mom? I can’t imagine what losing your partner of 50+ years is like. So now I’m getting drunk on a plane and turning to a bunch of faceless guys with huge personalities whom I bond with.. Hold your loved ones tight, guys. You never know what’s each day will bring.. I thought I learned this when my sister passed very very unexpectedly.. But it’s amazing how it gets reaffirmed when you least expect it..

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      sorry for your loss, Reno, will keep you and your family in my prayers.

      • RenoBear

        Thanks man, I appreciate it

    • MB30SD

      Reno, I was there 5 months ago my brother.

      Just be in it and let it flow man. Don’t try to keep it down. For a man losing his mom is one of the hardest things ever, just know you’re going to celebrate her life man. And be with your dad as long as you can. Call him every day for a while.

      My thoughts are with you and know that you have people who’ve been through it and are sending thoughts your way. Hang in my brother.

      • RenoBear

        Thanks maing. I’ll be cycling through all of those emotions again in the morning when I see my dadd-o. See above what I said to Doc. And I will be doing all those things you speak of, thanks for the words and wisdom my man

    • BearDown100393

      Condolences. Sorry for your loss.

      • RenoBear

        Thanks you

    • BillW

      Hang in there Reno. Your grief now is another way of saying how much you love her. And as corny as it sounds she will always be with you. My condolences.

      • RenoBear

        Makes perfect sense not corny at all. Thanks Bill

    • Doc Nitty

      Peace, brother.

      Just pull up a stool at da bears blog tavern and let it all out. dog knows I have.

      • RenoBear

        Yes sir, will do my man. We’ll see how the next few days go. I’ll go from 70 in port orange Florida to -10 in Minnesota so my mom can be buried next to my sis. Hell they probably have damn permafrost up there, hope they can dig through it . SMDH. I’m back to a numb state being in my mom and dads house without mom in it. My brother and sister picked me up at the airport, my dads finally sleeping after being up for 40hrs straight, so I’ll see him in the morning thankfully. Then I’ll be cycling through all the emotions again. I’m very thankful to be here though. Thanks man

    • Trac

      Just know that there are plenty of posters here that are hurting for you and with you my friend. I know that sounds crazy but a lot of us here have been through a rodeo or two and some of us know what your’e going through in one way or another. Hang in there and I know you being there with your pops will mean the world to him.

      • RenoBear

        Thanks Trac, I know lots of other guys here have been through the same stuff, and I appreciate those words to put things in perspective.

    • beninnorcal

      Sorry for your loss, Reno. Hope you feel better.

      • RenoBear

        Thanks Ben

    • AlbertInTucson

      My parents did 57 years together before we lost Dad.

      Lost brother last year but I can only imagine what your Dad is going through.

      Heartfelt condolences.

      • RenoBear

        I appreciate that Al, thank you

    • Cormonster

      Terrible news. My condolences to you and your family.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Sorry Reno…..

      • RenoBear

        Thanks maing

    • Yeah, sorry to hear your loss, Reno.

      Hang in there. bear down.

      • RenoBear

        Thanks man

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Sorry for your loss brother. I can’t imagine how you are feeling. Don’t hold anything back, no one will think less of you.
      Let us know if you need anything or want to chat.

    • Irish Sweetness

      R.I.P. RenoBear’s Mom.

      The Seed in your heart shall blossom.

    • CanadaBear

      Really sorry to read this Reno. Time is the only thing that helps. May your mother R.I.P. Make sure and give your dad a big hug. We all need that more than we are willing to admit. Hang in there Brother!

      • RenoBear

        Thanks man. We’ve had a real good day today, getting through the process of transport of her and getting everyone else situated. But good memories are abound today

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Sorry for your loss man, I can’t imagine.

      • RenoBear

        Thanks man, we are doing pretty good. Good for all of us to be together here in Florida, before going to Minnesota

  • willbest

    Feel the Bern! Then again, what kind of ass backwards state do you have to be where 1 in 20 people look at Bush I and Bush II and go, lets have another round of that.

  • willbest

    So Cam Newton will spend 11 days working in CA this year, and for that privilege the state of CA will collect $140,000 in taxes.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2016/02/03/california-taxes-will-eat-up-all-of-cam-newtons-super-bowl-earnings/#59ffb40d50a6

    If I were a football player I would have my contract structured so that I made league minimum, my last year where I would set up residence in a no income tax state in January and take my compensations as an exit bonus the following league year and retire.

  • BerwynBomber

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog “Final answer on the poll. Bears fans an optimistic bunch for 2016.”

    I suppose but 25% don’t expect playoffs so that kinda sucks. Let’s put those low expectations in perspective. We were a final desperate drive by GB from winning the division in Trestman’s first year. And just last year a team QBed by second year Teddy Bridgewater won the division.

    Yet some don’t have post-season expectations of Fox and Fangio next year? C’mon …

    • Irish Sweetness

      I have no confidence in Fangio based on what I saw this year. IMO his rep is based on having players like Navarro Bowman et al on his squad. He’s just not aggressive. He’s passive. Flaccid.

      No likey.

      • willbest

        What if they had 15 more sacks, 6 more turnovers, but gave up 30 more 20+ yard plays and their points allowed were roughly the same?

        Personally, I think he rolled conservative because he had 1 playmaker who was injured half the season. He makes the decision to make the opponents get their yards 6-7 at a time. If he blitzes and his rookie safeties over commit or take a bad angle and its off to the races.

        • MB30SD

          This

  • burntorangenavyblue

    I’d say anyone going for the Superbowl choice would be very optimistic and winning the division optimistic. The 9-10 choice show that a majority of the voters, including both commenting regulars and non-commenting readers are just simply realists.

    We are voting based on what we saw last season and what we know now what is on the table. Of course this will be very different when other factors come into play.

    To me, it’ll be the free agents that get signed, how the other teams fare in that same regards, and how the Bears deal with resigning their own players. I cannot put any energy or thoughts into this year’s draft….last year killed it for me and am too busy with other things to want to invest anything draft related…comes with way too much noise

    • willbest

      Maybe its years of being a Bear fan that has gotten me into tempering my expectations on the draft. At the end of the day I tend to be okay with any pick that fills a hole. And I know, don’t reach, but I don’t watch enough college football to even formulate a top 10 let alone a top 100 or 300. I also think if all the people criticizing the organization were any good they would be working for them making 3 times as much money.

      I suppose you could in theory make the case for the SB. Packers almost made it to the NFCC and they weren’t anything special this year. Carolina won’t be that good next year. But then some other team always rises to the occasion. Why not the bears

    • Trac

      Looking forward has its perks. Saw some scrappy play from a team that is finding how to win as opposed to watching a team fold like a cheap suit the year before. This year, I expect the Bears to win the close games. Anything less that w/c will be a dissapointment.

  • Irish Sweetness
    • burntorangenavyblue

      I don’t think he gets in. Slightly above average stats and it seems like the voting process is ran by the good ol boys club and Lynch didn’t suck up to the media enough to gain their favors (not that I think the players should have to). To hang it up on Sunday night is laughable though…what is the triggering factor when the Superbowl ends that makes you announce it then?

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