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On the Matt Barkley Audition & the Importance of His Callback

| November 28th, 2016

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For those of you new to DBB, I do most of my “work” in the theatre as a playwright and musical theatre lyricist/librettist. In the last ten years I have been in countless audition rooms, sitting on one side of a long table as a stream of young actors parade in, sing a song, listen to our tepid “thank yous” and walk out. There’s a little secret in the theatre most actors don’t know: we hate the process as much as they do. But since Actor’s Equity requires we do it, we do.

Matt Barkley walked into the room.

Our expectations were he’d get his three and a half minutes and then we’d move on to the next one. He handed his sheet music over the pianist – the boring choice of “Being Alive” from Stephen Sondheim’s Company. It takes a brilliant performance for somebody to stand out with that tune and we don’t expect Barkley to be the one to do it. (Here’s Raul Esparza singing the track. I don’t want to embed the video here.)

          Somebody hold me too close…

          Somebody hurt me too deep…

No emotion. No intensity. Off-key.

          Somebody sit in my chair, and ruin my sleep...

I’ve starting drawing cubes on the back of Barkley’s resume. Three-quarters of the song are over and I’ve not only stopped evaluating the performance, I’ve stopped listening altogether.

Then something happens that occurs in the rarest of auditions. A moment makes your ears perk up. You find yourself suddenly transfixed by the performer. It’s usually the result of the actor’s deep connection to the material and their ability to project that connection across the table. If you’ve never been in the room, you’ll never understand how powerful a moment this can be.

          Somebody crowd me with love…

          Somebody force me to care…

          Somebody let me come through, I’ll always be there…

          As frightened as you, to help us survive…

          Being alive…

          Being alive…

          Being alive!

By the end of Barkley’s song, we’re in tears.

Barkley leaves the room. We look at each other on the other side of the table, perplexed. I turn to the composer and director and ask, “what the fuck just happened?” Nobody has an answer. But one thing is certain.

We’re inviting Barkley back into the room to see if it happens again. Because if it does, a star is born.

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  • 1st to say, last! Repost

    Long story short, winning teams find ways to win, losing teams find ways to lose.

    Been refraining from the start that we must get over the hump – the losing mentality.

    Or, loser momentum if you will.

    I mean, the Raiders committed 24 penalties against the Bucs a few weeks back and STILL won.

    24! (Not including the ones that were offsetting or declined)

    Other QBs have thrown 2INTs while their team still wins. Players step up, whether it’s the D getting a big turnover, or a returner making a big run, or the receivers/HB making up with clutch games.

    We do none of that.

    When the chips are down, we FIND ways to lose.

    Whether through penalties, turnovers, missed tackles, DROPS…bad in-game management, broken coverages, missed FGs, head scratching ‘returns’, etc

    Bears just find new ways to throw away games.

    Fox must find a way to turn that around b4 the Jan, cuz that loser mentality is like poison which will only fester during the offseason.

    • BillW

      I think there is only so much one can expect from so many players being hurt in the second year of rebuilding.

      I wonder what the average “string” was on O and D. Or better yet, the median. That is, I think over half the O was 2nd string or less – right? 3 on the line; TE, 2 receivers, QB. That’s 7 out of 11. Similar on D.

      And yet they had 1st and goal from the 7 for the win, which was right there with a good play call and excellent execution by 10 of the 11 players. With the one not likely to be playing much football if any next year.

      It was like a team made up of 4th exhibition game players going against a playoff contender’s first string. A pretty good showing in my mind.

      But as I said in my other post, my view is always biased when I’m at the game. I am easier to satisfy (when the Bears are not in contention) on a nice day in Soldier Field even if they lose.

      • Yeah, but every Sunday all across the NFL, a bunch of no-names step up.

        Malcolm Micthell caught 2 TDs to help the Pats win a surprisingly tight game vs Jets yesterday.

        Malcolm who?

        Meanwhile, Fitz with the game on the line got stripped.

        Daniel Brown (who?) made a good TD catch.

        I know Meredith, Bellamy and crew aren’t AP, but those catches yesterday literally hit them between the numbers.

        Bellamy had two 100yds games back to back.

        But somehow our guys seem to choke when it matters most, which perhaps reflects a lack of focus, muscle-memory, or motivation, all which are on the coach (at the very least the coach is responsible for which players are out there fucking up).

        • MB30SD

          fire weekend at bernie’s now. He is poison.

      • antityco

        Well said.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We have 14 players on IR. I don’t know how we can be expected to do well with that.

      • Well for instance, like yesterday. Porter DID make a big play. Caused a fumble near the goaline.

        Amos was RIGHT there. Couldn’t fucking fall on it.

        That has nothing to do with injuries, just choking.

        • BerwynBomber

          Porter’s had a fine season.

          Blogfather said Freeman and Floyd have been our top two D players this year. But that seems laughably wrong to me, as both Willie Young and Porter have had better years than Floyd.

          Heck, I’d put Callahan’s year above Floyd’s thus far.

          • MB30SD

            I thought the same thing… weird to put floyd in that list with Freeman (totally a stud and clutch). I’d put young or mcphee (when healthy) there.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m afraid McPee will never be healthy again.

          • Yeah, I was perhaps the only one on the Porter camp early on.

            Sure, he allows some yds, and shouldn’t be put one on one vs truly elite players the whole game (though he has), but all he does is makes play in crunch time, like in the SB.

            That switch doesn’t just turn off.

            And needless to say, we’re in DESPERATE need of playmakers, though he is getting older.

          • BerwynBomber

            I liken Porter’s game to De’Angelo Hall’s. Both guys aren’t all that in run support, both can occasionally get burned, but both are playmakers. And you live with all their flaws so long as they’re still doing the latter.

          • I can see some similarities, but I don’t think Porter takes nearly as many chances jumping routes as young DeAngelo

            Porter’s really good at trail tech and very savvy in a lot of other facets.

            He’s just older and slower and will get burned by those shifty WRs like Hilton if left without S help.

            But on those bigger WRs, he seems to hold his own.

            Edit.

            It could also be that opposing teams target the rest of our secondary cuz they’re easy victims – Amos, LeBlanc, Bausby, Qaurtey aren’t scaring anyone.

          • willbest

            Floyd has had 2 games where he looked like the real deal, and Willie Young’s best two games this year were both better than that.

          • SC Dave

            Tho Callaghan had a tough day yesterday

        • antityco

          It’s easy from the comfort of the living room, isn’t it?

  • BillW

    Repost as well:
    I was one of the 93 people Jeff refers to being at the game. I hadn’t planned on going but my older son couldn’t get rid of his tickets and decided to go and invited me – which despite holiday things going on my wife was OK with.

    Very glad I went. Decent weather (though I should have dressed warmer) and we tailgated in the south upper deck lot. Great time with his neighbors.

    And surprisingly exciting in the fourth. We decided we’d leave in the fourth if the Bears didn’t score on their first possession. But they did and suddenly a nice day turned into a great football game.

    I think this is the first loss I’ve ever been to that I was not at all upset at the end. In my mind, they essentially won and maintained their top 3 draft choice. Sure, I’d rather one of those throws were caught and we’d celebrate a win, but OK – the backup receivers suck and the 4th string QB doesn’t. Better than the other way around.

    All I want when I go to a game with the Bears as underdogs is for them to be competitive. They were more than that. With maybe about half of the starters gone (more than half on offense. Not a bad day in my mind.

    Had I watched on TV, I’d be more disappointed. I’ll never grow too old to enjoy high-fiving Bears fans at the game.

  • Weed Superman (GP)

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/

    Only a 1% chance of the first pick.

    • Clicked on it, bunch of stats.

      So 1% chance Bears get #1overall?

      • Weed Superman (GP)

        yep

  • Bravo, Jeff!

    But I would say, at least 4 more auditions, cuz in theater you don’t have big angry 280 pound animals watching film and spearing the singer when the F goes flat.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      that would make theater a lot more interesting.

      • Johnnywad

        Only way I’d watch it

  • willbest

    If the Guild didn’t demand it, the results would be bribery, sex trading, and nepotism. Oh wait that happens now.

  • Irish Sweetness

    It’s promising. Some of us got excited by the glimpse we got of Connor Shaw. I’m on a really small boat, on my own, wearing a David Fales T-shirt until I see him shit the bed in horrendous fashion .. and then there’s the anomaly of Barkley (whom you all laughed off when I posted a vid on here a few weeks ago!)

    In no scenario whatsoever is there room for Brian Hoyer though. He’s done. Guten Nacht. Thank you for coming. Auf Wiedersehen.

    Looks like the Browns could beat us to Myles Garret. Is there a studly LT in this draft? That would be a solid building block for any offense.

  • BerwynBomber

    Barkley has superb stationary mechanics. Barkley has little to no mobility. Barkley has a strong enough arm to get the ball down the field. Barkley makes too many mistakes.

    On Post-Game Live yesterday, Jim Miller said the hardest thing for a young QB like Barkley to learn is when to throw the ball away. But he is young so there is a chance he CAN learn.

    In terms of his lack of mobility, that can be compensated for by improved pocket movement, even if one is a pure pocket passer like Barkley. Brady and Peyton fall into that pure pocket passer category too but each is/was masterful at manipulating the pocket given their, otherwise, slow feet.

    Barkley’s height would somewhat worry me. 6’2″ pocket passers in the NFL are definitely the exception these days. But his superb throwing mechanics could, emphasis on “could”, somewhat make-up for it.

    Anyway, give him a few more looks. No reason we shouldn’t.

    • Barkley might want to throw on a few Brees tapes.

      Immobile. Short. Decent (not great) arm.

      Diff of course is we have Birdcage and not Payton calling plays to help out his development.

      I feel almost the same way I did after the Minny game.

      OK. Let’s see…

      • BerwynBomber

        Brees isn’t totally immobile though. In fact, in his younger years, he had a little Rodgers to his game. And even now he can still be slippery enough to make a decent diving dash for a first down marker on, say, a third and five in a pinch.

        Barkley falls more in the Peyton/Brady camp of being cursed with drunk giraffe/slow white guy disease. Hence, I think their tapes would even be more useful to Barkley. (Not that Brees can’t manipulate a pocket either.)

        And the thing is Barkley already “throws tall” so that helps. I likened his mechanics to Palmer yesterday, but another guy’s they remind me of is Aikman whose stationary mechanics were excellent too.

  • Irish Sweetness

    What the hell is #pizzagate?

    • willbest

      The theory that John Podesta (Hilliary’s campaign manager) runs a (or is at least part of) a pedophile ring using pizza and related vocabulary as code for trafficking children for sexual purposes. This stems from some very odd hacked e-mails where they are inexplicably obsessed with pizza.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I saw the Miley Cyrus thing, and there were a million videos about pizzagate.

      • Weed Superman (GP)

        Jesus Christ.

      • SC Dave

        What was the child prostitute airline thing that Bill Clinton was frequenting?

        • willbest

          Lolita Express

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, that’s it.

  • AlbertInTucson

    He wasn’t sacked all day.

    Have to think that, after a while, he’s EXPECTING solid protection and that feeds confidence.

    • We all might have underrated Massie.

      Larsen and Kush somehow played better with him in the lineup.

      Also, helps to get rid of ball quickly, though I’d have to watch game again to see if he does get rid of it fast on a consistent basis, but I’m guessing yes.

      • willbest

        I doubt Massie is worth $6 million, but we clearly can do a lot worse. Perhaps it wasn’t as bad of a deal as I have been thinking.

        • Huge Bears Penis

          Palmer is missing him in Arizona.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Palmer has taken a real beating this year.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Or we over-rated Long and Sitton? Also, the Titans aren’t a top defense.

        • I still contend that an inj Long was a liability. And that Sitton migth have been in the same boat.

          Give them credit for toughing it out, but when Kush/Larsen played that good Vikes front four, they mauled them (also with Massie on the RT).

          Massie comes out last week, and Kush/Larsen looked bad.

          Comes back this weeks, looked good again.

          So hard to say.

          Could be that Kush/Larsen are superior to an Inj Long/Sitton.

          Hard for me to imagine them being superior to a HEALTHY Long/Sitton, but be a nice problem to have.

          Can always kick out Long to RT, and we’d have incredible depth.

          And let’s pat the back of the forgotten Bear – Leno.

          When LTs are invisible, that usually means PBs.

          • SC Dave

            Great post.

  • willbest

    Trevethan ruptured his patellar tendon and is headed to IR

    • BerwynBomber

      Yikes. Aren’t those even worse than ACLs?

      • Huge Bears Penis

        tis but a flesh wound!

      • I think Achilles inj are worse than ACLs, but yes, I think you’re right. Patellar Tendons are bad juju.

        We’d be lucky to get him back mid-season I think.

        • willbest

          google is telling me surgery for repair, 6 weeks immobilized leg, roughly 3 months for day to day routine to be normal, and 4-6 months for return to sports. So you are looking at him being a weak ass mother come spring training. He probably won’t look that great come week 1.

          • I think that’s the inj Graham suffered two years ago, and he looked bad last season.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Didn’t like Danny in coverage anyway. We need a guy who can do it all.

          • SC Dave

            I agree here. Another Freeman, please.

      • SC Dave

        Dunno. I had the middle third of mine removed to give me a new “acl”, so…

        Maybe its very strong, and hence a bitch to fix once broken. My experience would tell me its either:

        1) strong as shit, so 2/3 rds is good enough (bad for Tre)
        2) does not take goant stress, and can get by with less (good for Tre)

  • willbest

    “Oh, and Robbie Gould has been a full-on disaster for Giants. He can’t make an extra point. Ryan Pace was right on that one” – Jeff

    Yes he was right to get rid of Robbie. That doesn’t change the fact that his decisions to get and stick with Barth are wrong.

    • Was it though, compared to all the shitty kicking league wide?

      Barth has looked more solid past few weeks, and getting that onside is a bonus (and should’ve been two, remember that bogus offsides call we got on the other game?)

      Maybe like Massie, he’s not as horrible as we think.

      Maybe he just needed to get his timing down with the new crew, or get used to the new field conditions.

      • SC Dave

        Let’s all hug that dream together.

  • willbest

    “Bears are 2-1 in the NFC North.

    0-8 against everybody else.” – Jeff

    Well you know what they say, win your division games and you are likely to make the playoffs.

  • willbest

    Apparently a Somali ran a couple people over and knifed some more at OSU. Must be a Michigan fan.

    • SC Dave

      Perhaps a disciple of the Religion of Peace?

  • BerwynBomber

    Wonder if BAL’s final play yesterday will lead to some off-season change in the rulebook. A very Belichickian move by Harbaugh. Well done.

    • willbest

      Do you think he had that plan in mind before the kerfluffle here in IL?

      • BerwynBomber

        Interesting. Hadn’t thought of that. But I would answer “yes”, but makes one wonder …

  • Jokey
    • BerwynBomber

      He is an excellent listen. Hope he climbs the ranks at ESPN.

      • Sadly, I doubt it.

        Too Xs and Os, and isn’t a caricature like Gruden.

        ESPN loves them those caricatures.

        • BerwynBomber

          Gruden is very Xs and Os too, but yeah the caricature stuff grates.

          I see Bowen’s ceiling as a potential staple on their afternoon NFL shows. That’s where he could shine.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        I agree, but ESPN will drop the ball on this, a lot like all of the Bears receivers.

    • SC Dave

      A great read. A player taking accountability, long after anyone cared any more. Character.

  • Following up on Tre’s inj, here’s a Dr (who does FF with Matthew Berry).

    http://www.espn.com/blog/seattle-seahawks/post/_/id/20692/why-jimmy-grahams-patellar-tendon-injury-has-such-an-uncertain-recovery

    In other words, add ILB to our long list of draft needs.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Timu .. .Kwiatkowski … but yeah. We could get the best in the draft if we wanted …

    • MB30SD

      so he tore his patellar?

      • Yup.

        Bears ILB Danny Trevathan has been diagnosed with a ruptured right patellar tendon, and is done for the season.

        It’s the worst possible news for the 26 year old. As Victor Cruz can attest, a torn patellar tendon is arguably the toughest injury to come back from, though Jimmy Graham provides a hopeful example. The injury at least comes at the right financial time, as Trevathan inked a four-year, $24.5 million contract last March. He’s unlikely to be ready for the start of training camp, and is legitimately questionable for Week 1 2017. Trevathan was having a strong season playing all three downs. The Bears are going to be ludicrously thin for the final five weeks. – Roto

        • Weed Superman (GP)

          TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE- MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

          • Is Anderson still on the team?

            Maybe Floyd can move inside for a bit, get him some experience between men, like MB.

          • Weed Superman (GP)

            Anderson will start next week over Timu.

          • Dood. U gotta like my MB gay joke! (NTTAWWT)

          • Weed Superman (GP)

            Did Waffle call us fags yet?

          • haha. The gay condor and the sashay supes.

          • CanadaBear

            He knows we want it too much!!!!!

        • SC Dave

          While I hope Tre gets well, I’m not sure I agree on him having a “strong” season. For most of the year, he was invisible.

    • CanadaBear

      You knew it was REALLY bad when Fox said it looked bad.

  • Weed Superman (GP)

    Do you think John Fox will start crying during Pressers, like Hue Jackson has done?

  • I do agree with Johnny on one thing.

    I think Amos now has to be upgraded.

    It’s not enough to be a hammer in the NFL.

    Gotta be able to at least hold your own vs TEs and pick off a pass once every two seasons.

    Edit. Or at least jump on the godman ball at your feet near the endzone

    • BerwynBomber

      I was an early but consistent Amos dissenter too.

      Yeah, he can lay the wood on, say, a Cole Beasley, but I don’t know if we get much more out of him than that. His coverage skills are very poor for a DB.

    • willbest

      Part of it is the person next to him is awful.

    • CanadaBear

      I’ve never been a big fan. Totally OK with him considering he was a 5th rounder but certainly not someone that makes you stop looking to replace him.

      • I think most of us were wait and see with him.
        He was a rook thrown in right away with the likes of Vereen and no pass rush.
        So it was easy to give him a pass, esp after the shit shows at S we’ve had (see handle)

        But this year he was supposed to take the next step.

        More than halfway through, he hasn’t. The coaches were talking him up a few weeks ago, saying they like his progression, and that he was making plays he wasn’t last year.

        They must be watching different tape cuz I haven’t seen much progression.

        It seems like teams are now targeting him, and successfully.

        • BerwynBomber

          Were it the old 1980s, even 90s NFL he would probably be fine as the run-stuffing SS. Problem is, as you point out, you gotta cover these days.

          He can still have a place on team though as a solid back-up/ST guy, but I wouldn’t offer him a multi-year contract or consider his position locked down.

          • One possible option in this fucked up season is moving Porter to FS.

            DeAngelo Hall moved to FS, and the transition succeeded, (well, til he got INJ).

            Porter is cerbreal, and can line up that entire young secondary .

            He’s also a playmaker who can cover, so he’d be a nice complement to Amos (for now).

            Put Fuller and Callahan at CB.

            If Hall is healthy, put Fuller, Hall, and Callahan (at nickle).

            Kwiat and Floyd as nickle LBs.

            That would peak my interest more than the usual bs.

          • BerwynBomber

            Interesting suggestion. Guess the only question (about Porter) is whether he is a good enough tackler to be the last line of defense.

            Otherwise, seem like his skill set would translate to FS and it would be a way to, presumably, milk a few more years out of his playmaking abilities.

            Hmmm …

          • Weed Superman (GP)

            porter is the only true CB we have, and you want to move him out?

          • He’s only going to get slower, while the rest of the stud WRs are going to get faster/better.

            We’re going to have to play Fuller when he returns.
            then that relegates Callahan to nickle.

            I guess it depends on who you’d like to see more of.

            Bush or Hall/Callahan.

            I don’t know if we should move Porter to FS, but those safeties are getting shredded back there.

            Our front 7 have proven they can stop the run (albeit that was with Tre/Freeman). Need to balance it out perhaps.

          • CanadaBear

            I’d be afraid of the wear and tear on Porter at FS.

          • That would be my major concern too.

            Maybe we can do it on sub-packages to try it out, but that’s only if Fuller returns and plays decently.

            I know Peanut was always inj towards the end, but I’m always gonna wonder what kinda FS he would’ve made.

          • CanadaBear

            He would have been a great FS until he was broken into bits over and over.

          • BerwynBomber

            Tough to say. Oddly enough, his Peanut Punch might not have been as effective in a FS spot as a last line defender doesn’t have as many opportunities to ball tackle because of the position’s responsibility.

  • Weed Superman (GP)

    Flash Poll: Who is a worse pairing at ILB in a 3-4?

    Krakowski with John Anderson?
    Chicken Dinner and Christian Jones?

    • beninnorcal

      Guess we’ll find out Sunday. Haven’t seen combo A. yet.

  • Weed Superman (GP)

    So…. to beat Shady I need to root for:

    Vadgers going down on the 1st play with a broken vagina.
    Jared Cook stepping up and catching 3TDs from Hundley.

    Yeah. That’s gonna happen…

    Shady’s two cornerstones (Ingram and McCoy) are on biggest winners for the week and my three cornerstones (Gronk, Lamar Miller and Doug Baldwin) are on biggest losers

    http://www.espn.com/fantasy/football/story/_/page/winner161127/week-12-fantasy-football-winners-losers-brees-ingram-shine-cooks-disappears-nfl

    Here is how to curse a player you hate: make me start them on my FF team the week I play Shady.

    • It’s the battle of the cooks, and he’s Ramsey, and you’re that fat one that puts beer and chile on everything.

      You’ll likely get a chance at revenge though in two weeks.

      Who you really gotta be rooting for is Jordy Nelson going for 100 and a TD for Bears 505 so that NB genetically enhanced team can get eliminated from the playoffs by next week.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Yeah. I fall to 8-4 and the other 8-3 team just needs 9 points from Erin to win his game tonight.

      In our league that’s 2 passing TDs and 350 yards. Or 3 passing TDs.

      Even a tie would drop me to 2nd.

      I left victory on the bench going with Matty Ryan over Cam.

      Also, Seattle sucking killed me. Had Graham and Baldwin score zip for me.

    • MB30SD

      Here’s the text I got back from shady…

      ‘You guys test it out and if you like it, I’ll buy and join you.’

      I basically called him a pussy. I checked the trailer, looks pretty fun. I might buy this week.

  • BearDown100393

    Show tunes?

    Oh well.

    7-9. Playoffs.

    • Weed Superman (GP)

      MIRACLE ON ICE SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEST OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • BerwynBomber

    The Cheese are a five point dog @ 5-5 PHI tonight. Oh, how the semi-mighty have fallen.

    • Wentz has fizzled as of late.
      Even Dawkins “The wolverine” called him out.

      • CanadaBear

        Hopefully he gets his fizz back. Gotta keep working on that strength of schedule. I would be OK with the Bears beating GB as long as they destroyed them and made Erin all pissy. Other than that, I hope the Beloved lose out.

      • BerwynBomber

        Growing pains and nothing PHI should worry about. The Prescott/R-berger/Marino rookie years are the exceptions even among the very best.

  • I guess getting burned to a crisp by PS WRs gets you fired.

    Cox snipped.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/11/28/titans-release-perrish-cox/

    • Bender McLugh

      The Barkley Effect in full effect

  • BuddhaJoe

    Nice metaphor, but what happened is the Tennessee D let up and and started playing prevent. Those guys were wide open at the end. Barkley’s not good, two end zone picks attest to that, although the obscene amount of drops weren’t his fault obviously.

    And now Trevathan’s gone too. Virginia must have broken a hundred mirrors or something, because this shit is just ridiculous.

    • BerwynBomber

      I want to see more of Barkley — why not — but agree about pumping the brakes. Not only was TEN in prevent, their secondary is not that good.

    • Sactowns#1

      It’s funny. it wasn’t the fact that he had two turnovers, hell jay turns the ball over twice before he’s even had breakfast, but rather the location of those pics, the redzone. Now if those are points on the board instead of turnovers the game is drastically different.

      • MB30SD

        Good point

      • He’s no Hoyer! (wink/wink)

        But that’s why I’m wait and see.

        It was no secret that Titan’s secondary sucks (and they released Cox today), and they were playing very soft with the lead.

        Still, as a QB, gotta take what they give, and Barkley was making great throws when it mattered most even getting drilled a few times whilst unloading.

        Good and bad, but enough good to at least warrant a lil hope.

        Barkley was probably the last college QB I actually watched on a weekly basis, so I’m pretty familiar with his pros and cons

        Hopefully his pros can finally translate to the pros

  • Sactowns#1

    Barkley and Braveman are taking us to the promised land!!

    • willbest

      Barkley has at least demonstrated he can do All Madden. Still waiting on Braverman

    • MB30SD

      Where the fuck have you been?

  • BearDown100393

    Rodgers looking more and more like a meth addicted vagabond.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Always fun to see Matthews get his clock cleaned.

    • BearDown100393

      That was great.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Blown.Up.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Touche’, Packers.

  • BearDown100393

    Wentz just owned Matthews.

  • This is gonna be a shootout.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Not what I wanted to see.

      SOMETIMES, they start off looking like track meets but…

    • BerwynBomber

      Maybe but only one O will face resistance. And it ain’t the one with the rookie QB.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Colts, Jets, next Monday!”

    Oh, yeah, appointment TV.

    • BerwynBomber

      Potential comedy in Fitzpatrick thinking he was jobbed out of a big payday.

    • BearDown100393

      Brandon Marshall melting down on prime time.

      • AlbertInTucson

        BMarsh against that Colts secondary?

        I’m sure can’t wait.

  • BerwynBomber

    Cheese might have the worst D in the league now. They’re a disaster.

    • BearDown100393

      do

    • AlbertInTucson

      But, but, they have Clay Matthews and Julius Peppers!

      And Dom Capers!

      • willbest

        I think Pep is 34

        • willbest

          woah crazy. He is almost 37. That is impressive for a non QB, Kicker, punter.

        • AlbertInTucson

          He LOOKED FORTY-seven in his last season as a Bear and then decided to whip his butt back into shape.

        • BerwynBomber

          Pep will probably end up in Canton but seems like he has finally slowed down. Gotta give it to him though as his durability has been very impressive.

          • willbest

            He is 1 sack away from tying Strahan on the all time sack list at #5. DeMarcus Ware is only 3 behind him with 3 less seasons played though.

            ed. Strahan played 14 seasons, this is Peppers 14th season.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, but Pep has been a more versatile player than Ware. Pep’s run support, pre-GB at least, was always top-notch.

        • BearDown100393

          He paces himself throughout the game.

          • CanadaBear

            He paced himself the last two years he was with the Bears. Unfortunately the pace was glacial. Fucking gold bricking asshole.

  • AlbertInTucson

    That left shoulder got the double-whammy on that block.

    • BearDown100393

      Rip rip. Tear tear.

  • BearDown100393

    Buh bye Matthews.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Helluva throw.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog My God is Green Bay’s defense wretched. Ted Thompson bare any responsibility for that?”

    Yeah, they manage to make the other bottom-feeding D’s (NO, TEN, IND) look like SEA’s. They’re that bad.

    Btw, ESPN pre-game was interesting if only to hear Young and Woodson question Thompson.

  • BearDown100393

    Chucky rips the Cheese.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Or, CUTS the cheese?

      • BearDown100393

        Might’ve been both.

  • RenoBear

    Vadgers never ceases to disgust me either his ridiculous arrogance and smugness. Heard he hasn’t even talked to his parents in 2 years and his dad has to get tix to game from other packer players. Apparently his brother thinks he’s an asshole too. I’ll find the links…. in the meantime, fuck that guy

    • AlbertInTucson

      We discussed his family issues and allowed that the family COULD be toxic.

      Arrogant or not, this team is nowhere with him.

      • RenoBear

        Ok. I suppose I’ll give him a sliver of the benefit of the doubt

    • BearDown100393

      They raised him.

      • RenoBear

        True. Doesn’t always mean a kid can’t be an ungrateful jerk off. But as I said below, I’ll give him a sliver of the benefit of doubt

        • BearDown100393

          Allstate should sign the family to do a couple of commercials.

  • BearDown100393

    Gruden just compared Rodgers to John Wayne. It made zero sense.

    • MB30SD

      Gruden makes zero sense

  • AlbertInTucson

    Need one of these psuedo packer running backs to lay it down.

  • BearDown100393

    Grimus “is a self made coach”. A nice way of stating nobody ever really wanted him.

  • AlbertInTucson

    YOUR guy reacted to the encroachment, Erin. Play gets stopped.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Nice hard count.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Going for it.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Seems to me the center should not be allowed to set, look up, set, look up, set..

  • AlbertInTucson

    I’D tell my defensive line that on the 3rd sound the Qb makes to all jump straight up and down. I bet SOMEBODY on the O-Line flinches.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Damn. How DARE they get that right.

    • BearDown100393

      Either the home crowd really hated that call or Santa showed up.

      • AlbertInTucson

        It IS Philly.

  • AlbertInTucson

    That play only took, what? Half an hour to develop?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Hahahahahhahaha…

  • AlbertInTucson

    “If the Philly corner turns around…”

    Its a great throw. it would have taken a great play to stop it.

    Barkley made a great throw on 4th down on Sunday.
    Our guy just didn’t catch it.

    On the other hand, 200 plays?

    On a wrist band?

    That sounds logistically impossible.

    Does Wentz have Superman’s telescopic vision?

    • That seems excessive for any rook.

      Doubt even Peyton had that his 1st year (and he still has rook INT record, I believe)

      • AlbertInTucson

        200 seems excessive, period.

        What the hell is a “Game Plan” for?

        Probably hyperbole from Chucky.

        • Weed Superman (GP)

          Chucky. Heh.

  • BearDown100393

    Roughing the passer vs tackling Vadgers…….

  • MB30SD

    Have I mentioned how much I fucking hate the packers. God I hate those cocksuckers. Hate to see them winning.

    • WP4Life

      Ditto.
      Nice BS roughing Erin on 3 and 10. To keep drive alive.

      • MB30SD

        Or that holding on 22… He barely even fucking touched him. Smmfh

        • WP4Life

          Hard to beat refs too

          • MB30SD

            Brutal

  • Weed Superman (GP)

    Fuck Philly, it’s only your damn season.

  • MB30SD

    Fuck you peppers

  • ButtonShoes

    Refs doing everything they can to aid the Packers’ season. God I fucking hate Green Bay.

  • MB30SD

    Hey asshole marketing departments for American companies… Fucking newsflash… The packers suck ass. Please god stop making (turrible) commercials with their dickbag players… Pleeeease good stop!

    • BearDown100393

      Next year belongs to Matt Barkley and Mitch Unrein.

      • MB30SD

        Hahaha

    • AlbertInTucson

      Those were produced in preseason, betting on the come. Now they are stuck. Kiss of death.

      I think the “Rodgers house is burning” is absolutely prescient.

      • MB30SD

        Ha!

    • BerwynBomber

      Rodgers will keep them in the spotlight but I would be surprised if they are so over-ranked in the preseason as they were this year.

      They’re still, largely, a one-man band.

  • BearDown100393

    Collateral Pukery aka Will Wants An Oscar

    • MB30SD

      Fuck can’t even watch the trailer. Not sure I would survive losing one of my kids. Fuck

      • BearDown100393

        Should have also made him blind and add a few who-hahs to his dialog.

        • MB30SD

          Mashup?

          • BearDown100393

            It worked for Al Pacino.

    • Sactowns#1

      What are you having for the holidays Will? “Schmaltz and lots of it”

  • BerwynBomber

    Rodgers is playing excellently and has been carrying GB, but the Cheese are still in big trouble. Especially now that #12 has a bad hamstring.

    Their D finally played a decent game, but that seemed more about the Iggles being short at OL and WR than good play by the Cheese. I wouldn’t trust them.

    • The book on the Puke has been out for a while.

      Jam those WRs, disrupt the timing, and contain Vadgers.

      On O, run it down their throats, keep it away, drain them.

      I actually think we’re gonna beat them, if we Barkley ends up being competent.

      Apparently, we only win division games.

      • BerwynBomber

        Rodgers is smart enough to figure some of that out — that was a master class in pre-snap reads/audibling tonight — but yeah, Nelson doesn’t get the separation he once did on DBs and they have no rushing attack (other than Rodgers).

        In fact, their FBs TD run in the 4th Q was their first one by an RB the entire season. Only two teams in the history of the NFL took so long to record one. The ’09 Clowns and some team from 1936.

        They’re toast.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Watching BRAVEHEART on BBC America. Wallace is just about to avenge the wife.

  • Huge Bears Penis

    the rise of Braverman begins! added to the active roster.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Won’t Cleveland be drafting a QB ?? Are they sold on RGIII?

    This Niners game could well be the Myles Garrett Bowl …. or do the Browns go BPA?

    If Pace could trade down and still get Trubisky, I’ll believe he’s Kevin Costner.

    • BerwynBomber

      CLE is ALWAYS drafting a QB.

      That said, Kessler has played decently for them as a rookie. His traditional passer rating is 92 and his QBR is 51.

      Note: I’m going from pure analytic #s and as I have yet to see a single live snap of Kessler’s pro career.

      • Johnnywad

        The good news is that Cleveland always picks the wrong QB early. So that leaves the better of the two for the Bears without needing to trade up.

  • Irish Sweetness
    • AlbertInTucson

      NOT Kizer. He shouldn’t even come out yet.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Does this Peppers guy excite any of you that watch? Might make a good
    safety, and if we run up the injuries he can play on offense.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Another Myles Jack.

      • Weed Superman (GP)

        Jack is a LB.

        Peppers, if drafted by a team with a brain, would be made into a free safety.

        He has the potential upside of being much better than Clinton Dix, and being Woodson in ability.

        • MB30SD

          yep. I think we take him if he’s there @ 3

          • SC Dave

            That would be a surprise, although perhaps not a bad idea.

          • MB30SD

            lotta green between now and our selection. Tons will shake out.

        • BerwynBomber

          More like strong safety. He is more powerful than Woodson but he is not quite athletic freak the latter was.

    • I don’t see Peppers making many INTs in that vid, including the one in his hands at 3:25

      Looks ok returning, but from those highlights, Joseph (who played S exclusively) looked more impressive last year, and he went 14th overall.

      Let u guys decide

    • BerwynBomber

      Only question is whether he is the jack of all trades but master of none. Other than that, he seems a sure thing.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Larry’s bag. We haven’t been this bad in 36 years.

    When was the last time the Bears went 0-4 against AFC opponents in a season?

    Rob B.
    Barrington, Illinois

    This year marks the first time the Bears have failed to beat an AFC opponent
    in a season since 1980 when they were swept by the Steelers (38-3),
    Browns (27-21), Oilers (10-6) and Bengals (17-14 in overtime). Despite
    those four losses, the Bears went 7-5 versus NFC teams to finish a
    respectable 7-9 under coach Neill Armstrong. The Bears went 3-1 against
    the AFC West last year but lost all four games to AFC South opponents
    this year, falling to the Texans (23-14), Colts (29-23), Jaguars (17-16)
    and Titans (27-21).</i

    • MB30SD

      Fucking oilers. Smfh.

      Remind me how John weekend at Bernie’s fox still has a fucking job right now?!?!!

      • Weed Superman (GP)

        Weekend at Bernie’s. Ha.

        Low Energy John.

        • MB30SD

          probably low T too.

          • Weed Superman (GP)

            Never be low on T

      • Huge Bears Penis

        A couple years ago when Fox was having heart problems he was given a medication that created a mutation in his blood, if his blood is synthesized properly it will work like the fountain of youth. Unfortunately it only works for a very small number of the world’s population defined by a specific and rare DNA sequence. Virginia McCaskey has that rare sequencing. She is keeping him around in hopes her group of doctors are able to synthesize it. So far they have been unsuccessful. He will be around until they perfect it.

        • Weed Superman (GP)

          It also gave him a huge Bear’s penis.

        • X-men 4: Ascent of the NecroCoach

  • Sactowns#1

    Wait- only 4 teams make the playoffs in our FF league AND the season is over after next week?! So, I’m hosed.

    • There’s still the consolation bracket.

      But yeah, in our league, always top 4.

      Not everyone gets a trophy! Though I might hand out trophies to everybody at the end or think of a consolation winner prize.

      • Weed Superman (GP)

        I beat Enderwiggin or I go home.

        • Same for him.

          Though he needs me to also beat NBIT.

          You and I are on the same boat at TE.

          Inj, not inj, ugh.

          Gronk and Reed are like beautiful [insert car]. Great when running, but always in the shop.

          • Weed Superman (GP)

            Shady broke out for 190. But I can’t see McCoy being the key horse in the playoffs.

          • Never know. I thought McCoy was one of the draft steals for like $45. I would’ve jumped on it , but I heart Zeke.

            McCoy has a history of always being dinged up. Even coming into that game his hand was fucked up, so didn’t see him exploding for that.

            And now that Watkins is back (on my team!), might stretch out the field more.

            Either way, teams are gonna have to deal with Zeke, Carr/Cousins, Reed, Fitz, Evans, Forte/Rawls/Kelly and Donk’s D (and Pryor/Watkins).

            But injuries always turn shit around. I think I prayed a lil when Carr’s pinky looked like like a bent twig.

  • Weed Superman (GP)

    Doesn’t anybody ever speculate why – in the State Farm commercial – Clay Matthews is over at Vadger’s house? And why there aren’t any other people there? Like, why do they hang out?

    And why is Rodgers so wound up that he uses a golf club on a fly? I mean, could he have some repressed feelings? Is that possible?

    • MB30SD

      I have proffered the same theories/questions previously.

      NTTAWWT

    • Edit. NTTAWWT

    • BearDown100393

      His family hates Matthews. The dots connect.

  • Weed Superman (GP)

    Philly has a shit secondary. Packers spread them out and slanted them to death. to DEATH.

    • BerwynBomber

      They’re not that shit. Jenkins is a Pro-Bowl level safety, McCloud is a decent DB and that Mills kid, whom I think they selected in the 7th round, is starting to develop. He pretty much blanketed Nelson all night.

  • Will Hill.

    • MB30SD

      yes please

      • and it seems crazy, but I think he’s only 26.

        So WTF not!?

        He’s more SS than FS I think, but put him in. All he does is make plays.

        • MB30SD

          agree, but maybe the Mcdonald thing still stings?

          • It’s just weed for Hill though.

            Oh, new FF name if we sign him – CYPRESS HILL!

            It’s not like he pistol whipped his baby mama or anything.

            For vet min, hellz yesh

          • MB30SD

            in

          • MB30SD

            Have I told you lately how clever you are?

  • Weed Superman (GP)
    • BerwynBomber

      Can’t see MIA or JAX happening. If Cutler is an upgrade from either Tannenhill or Bortles, it is minimal. Plus, MIA is 7-4 and Bortles is still on his rookie contract.

      ARI and NYJ make more sense.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m sure the Jets have buyers remorse over Fitzy at $12 mil. Can’t imagine they would trade anything to take on $15 mil with Jay. I could definitely see them signing him for less money than they paid Fitzy.

    • Scheme wise, Ariz makes sense (though they don’t have a legendary Oline, which apparently Jay needs), but unless Palmer retires, I don’t see it.

      And even IF Palmer retires, if Romo is available, might go that route.

      Jets just might be desperate enough, and some rumblings about Bmarsh act getting old (surprise surprise), so Cutler might not even have to deal with him.

      And both Bowles and Arians might be playing for their jobs, so again, desperation.

      But I could easily see those teams going other ways, like Garrapolo (Cards already got what’s his name from Pats, so relationship there).

    • BearDown100393

      Jay’s a Bear for life.

  • FF Note Instead of trying to recruit FF players during the offseason when no one is around, starting now

    Dynasty League?

    Been flirting with it for a few seasons now, but maybe we can give it a shot.

    This year’s Da Blog league was (is) HIGHLY competitive. Aside from me teagbagging, everyone else was in the playoff hunt till the very end.

    So, I’m thinking of the same crew (Shady, GP, Ender, Artoo, Sac, Trac, 505, NBIT, etc) + maybe 2

    I know Irish might be down, and if you guys want in, lemme know.

    Basic run down. 2QB, auction draft, like .5PPR , $100 dollar waiver wire budget for season

    [no, not REAL $]

    If we get 12 teams, maybe I’ll go back to 1 QB.

    I have the emails of everyone in Da League, and Irish’s, so if interested, lemme know, and I’ll make a lil list and set everything early going forward, including a set draft date we can all agree on.

    – Commish/Champ/Poet-God

    Out

    • MB30SD

      sigh

      • Weed Superman (GP)

        What is a Dynasty League?

        • willbest

          All the players you draft you keep year to year. This prevents you from cutting players that go to IR to take a flier on some third string WR that finds himself as Philip Rivers #1 target. It also requires you to think about the player’s actual age because Tom Terrific isn’t going to be your QB in 2019 and you are either going to hope to hit pay dirt on a rookie QB or give up say ODB to get say Wilson/Carr etc.

          The league I am in with my college buddies which dates back to 2003 started that way. But after year 4, 4 of the teams were so hopelessly broken that there was no way to fix it without a redraft. 2 of the guys left and nobody could be found to take their pile of shit. So it ended, and the rest of us converted it into a 10 team keep 2 league. Bunch of ways to do that but we replace our 1st through 8th pick with a player on your current roster based on where they were drafted/picked up the year before

          Like AP’s rookie year I picked him up in the 6th and Ryan Grant off waivers. So the following year I got AP for a 2nd rounder, and Grant for an 8th rounder. Which is incidentally the only year I have won that league.

          • Shit, you know a lot more about dynasty than I. I just know ppl keep the same players yr to yr, but I know plenty of formats exist, and don’t know which is best.

            Which do you recommend?

            Do you guys use ESPN?

            That’s sorta my fear about Dynasty, and why I never thought of creating one.

            It’s hard to find committed players yr-to-yr. Shit happens, or maybe just not into it as much if team sucks .

            At least with redraft I know they’ll be somewhat involved for at least one season (but even then, players tend to dropout if they’re out of playoffs.

            Dunno. Dynasty was brought up a few times though, and in Da League, it’s practically dynasty in that it has core teams like Multiple Scorgasms.

            Just throwing dynasty out there. See if ppl are interested.

            I like that it would keep track of wins/losses vs other teams through out seasons.

          • EnderWiggin

            Why not a Keeper League? My sister’s league chooses two or three players every year to KEEP before they draft.

          • EnderWiggin

            Oh, how do I go 6-1 in my division and still get the consolation bracket? Me so sad.

          • The keeper option sounds pretty good actually. Might look into that.

            I like new leagues cuz you’re not married to players, more options, more fresh blood, but keeping 2-3 core players would be cool.

            Might go that route.

          • MB30SD

            FFKRF

          • Weed Superman (GP)

            Well, every year for um…. the past 4 years at least, you have Waffle who drafts his team according to some whack principle and then abandons the team by week 5 when he’s 0-4.

            I can’t imagine that the problem doesn’t get worse in future years. One year I had an awful start and managed my way back to .500, which to me, is still fun.

            We have spoiler trades at the end of the seasons. this year it was Trac who ran some lopsided trades to give his dark horse the chance to take Butch on.

            Year over Year these problems would just get worse.

            Just some thoughts.

          • Yeah, I know, and let’s not forget Waffle gave NB Brees for Bortles too.

            Brees for Bortles.

            It’s like the top Lion getting dragged down by a pack of heinas.

            Most likely I’ll put Irish in for Johnny, mostly cuz I’m pretty sure he wants out anyways.

            But other than that, league has been fun. If we get Irish, or maybe Doc back in the mix, keeper league could be that much more interesting.

            Past 5 years only reason to watch football aside from watching Bears climb draft.

          • Make RedZone Conv% Great Again

            I mistakenly overpay for “game changing” elite fantasy QB’s and WR’s and have no money left for running backs. Then through injury and bye weeks I fucking field Asiata and James White. I had a shit ton of injuries this year. I traded NB because I needed a running back and he was offering Sproles. I figured that Bortles could toss a few TD’s and that Brees would shit the bed outside of the dome.
            I lost this week because Wentz decided to be a rookie and not pass or run to Sproles at all. Then my TE’s played like pussies. Marshall has a muppet at quarterback, etc.
            It is true that I forgot about my team for several weeks last year. It wasn’t on purpose though. I had a fucking crazy year and my buddy had just died. Haha, give a brother a break!

          • CanadaBear

            Hey Johnny, I watched that Ward/Kovalev fight today and I gotta say it was close. Kovalev didn’t win many rds from the 5th on. Ward hit Kovalev with a great right hook to the lower ribcage in the 8th that slowed him down pretty good. I thought Kovalev won the 10th and the 12th was a toss up. Ward landed a ton of body shots in those clinches and coming out of them. No doubt Kovalev didn’t get any help from the Nevada judges. I thought it was a good fight and look forward to the rematch.

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            In order for a genuine dialectic to flourish, there must be at least 2 super powers.

          • willbest

            We just make ESPN work with the commissioner manually setting things as
            need be. I don’t know what he does. Before that we were on yahoo.
            Actually the original dynasty draft was done in person on the big board,
            and the two after it were done via e-mail chains for some reason.
            Which worked okay because our dynasty draft was only 4 rounds. So it
            only took a couple days.

            I can’t say that dynasty is any more or less fun (then again I didn’t have one of the crappy teams), but it is a slightly different dynamic. I do think Dynasty drafts are a lot more interesting. The first one particularly, but even the subsequent ones where they are 4 rounds and you are drafting rookies, sophomores you think are making the leap or filling in a badly needed hole with ho-hum vets. It prevents dumping at the end of the season, of sorts. For example, you might see Shady McCoy being traded for Todd Gurley right about now, which is ordinarily nonsense but the person getting Shady might be in the thick of things to win it, and the guy getting rid of McCoy is trading a 28 year old back for a guy who is hopefully having a down year.

            Our current keeper model is designed to reward sleepers. If you pick your two players as keepers that were dratted in the first 6 rounds, its going to take your first and second round pick. But late round fliers end up with 8th round tags.

            An odd trade that just happened last week in our league before the trade deadline was the person with Julio Jones in our league is out of contention and traded him for Jordan Howard to a team that is now a heavy favorite to win. But its an amazing trade for the new Howard owner because he is going to keep Howard next season in exchange for his 8th round pick. Yes he loses the ability to keep JJ for his 1st round, but getting a legit RB1 for your 8th is crazy.

  • willbest

    I think what is worse than our 15 person IR this year is the realization that the injuries for next year are already starting to pile up. Trevathan won’t be himself next year. McPhee isn’t himself this year and might never again be. That is a massive hole in our roster when we already had too many to count.

    Plus Kyle Long, even if its not too serious, big men don’t do well with ankle injuries.

    • The whole point of signing FAs in 26ish range is to presumably be healthy.

      Like the opposite has happened.

  • Arians and Bowles don’t look so hot now.

    In fact, some “experts” link Cargo heading their way in ’17.

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    Barkley came into the audition, shit a sloppy deuce right in his pants, squished it around a bit, farted a few extra bubbly times for good measure, and then nailed the last most monologue only to find the rest of the supporting cast vomiting from the stink.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      that’s almost poetic.

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  • BearDown100393

    Tanking? Tweeting about tanking? Really?
    How about a new column about possible playoff opponents?

  • Sactowns#1

    Fun stat- we’re #5 on the list for most turnovers this year! Now that we’re missing 75% of the offense, I’m confident we can get to #1.

  • MB30SD
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  • Sactowns#1

    I just re-watched last Sundays Bears game. Bears looked really good stopping the run but Marriota did carve them up for a few 20+ yard rushes, so that will probably be there if Kaep wants it. Backup QB found his groove in the second half and I doubt the receivers could possibly drop that many balls again. But their offense is always a question mark. Bears have been looking really good and are currently ranked 11th in total defense while SF is ranked dead last. So I say Sf may have the slight edge on offense but Bears are clearly better on defense. I think it will be a good matchup but Bears D comes out ahead.

    The key to defending Kap is an effective but disciplined pass rush, which I’m not sure the bears have. My buddy, a Niners fan, says if you pressure him, even if you don’t get there, just make him feel uncomfortable, but keep him in the pocket, he hasn’t figured out how to beat you. So there’s your key to the game I guess.

    • same as defending Vick. Keep him in the pocket, make him look past his first read.

      • Floyd being back would be a huge boost.

        Ergo, we should keep him out another week.

        Kap tends to make erratic throws, so if there were ever a time for our secondary to actually make a play, it would be this week.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yup, that’s pretty much how we beat Kap in the “Kyle Fuller game”. And we made Kap look lousy that night.

  • What he loves about Kizer is the touch passes. Thinks decision making
    (especially under pressure) can be coached. In love w/physical traits. – Jeff

    Personally, “clutch” throws is something I don’t think can be coached.

    Can you coach guts?

    Ask Gabbert.

    • That being said, Kizer did indeed look Dak-ish at times, and Dak himself last yr was considered a “project”

      • Make RedZone Conv% Great Again

        Except Dak owned his competition in college. Owned.

    • BerwynBomber

      Does Gabbert lack guts or just suck? I think it is more the latter.

      • MB30SD

        Both?

  • BerwynBomber

    Who knew the Cheese once drafted a serial killer? Bizarre story.

    http://www.si.com/longform/true-crime/i-5-killer-green-bay-packers-randall-woodfield/index.html

    • MB30SD

      Figures.

      Fascinating read

      • BerwynBomber

        And Wanny was drafted just ahead of the guy.

        Dude’s dark side makes Aaron Hernandez’s seem light by comparison.

        • MB30SD

          I saw that and chuckled.

          To be fair, wanny was like a serial killer of football wins.

          And Hernandez was just your garden variety street thug… He just also happened to play football.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Yuck. Glad they denied the request to interview the bastard. Poster child for the death penalty.

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  • AlbertInTucson

    Quite a slugfest tonight. Treadwell making Viking fans cringe as their first-rounder.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Early Christmas for Dallas.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Right tackle play worthy of J’Marcus Webb.

  • AlbertInTucson

    This is the point against the Bears where the Vikings defense couldnt get off the field.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Nice punt.

    Almost in Bailey’s range already.

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