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Ka’Deem Carey Enters Camp as the Ultimate Wildcard

| July 13th, 2016

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Ka’Deem Carey is entering his third training camp with the Bears. And he has just as good a chance to start as he has to be cut.

While neither of those outcomes are particularly likely, they are realistic. There aren’t that many players in the league facing similar circumstances. Two years into his career, it’s impossible to know what Carey’s role will be.

Carey was on his way out the door last year – fourth on the depth chart with not much separating him from Senorice Perry. Add in the fact that Perry was a four-phase special teams stud and Carey struggled on specials and the writing was on the wall. Then Perry was injured, followed by an injury to Jacquizz Rodgers and one to Matt Forte. Carey went from on his way off the roster to starting the team’s prime time game against San Diego.

It’s easy to see why people like Carey. He runs hard and brings energy. He picked up two big — and important — fans in John Fox and Stan Drayton.  He picked up tough yards in short-yardage situations and provided the team’s best touchdown dance.

But it’s hard to forget that it took three injuries for Carey to find the field last year.

Bears know they have a potential star in Jeremy Langford. But one of the draft’s surprises was their addition of fifth-round draft pick Jordan Howard.

While they have similar running styles, Howard is bigger and faster than Carey and was considered one of the best pounding backs in the draft. The running back by committee strategy is kind of a misnomer because, while they play more than one, they rarely play more than two.  Howard is going to make the team and if he’s the player the Bears think they drafted, he’s going to be the thunder to Langford’s lightning.

So what is Carey’s role?

This is where Matt Forte’s absence comes in. The knock on Langford will be his pass-catching until he proves he can catch the ball. And Langford is not a particularly good pass blocker. Those two skills are what will make a healthy Jacquizz Rodgers incredibly valuable on third downs (and by that, on the roster).

That would leave Carey in the same spot he was last year: battling a special teams stud for a roster spot that is primarily about playing special teams. That won’t work out well for him.

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  • Scharfinator

    The hole at running back is going to be felt. Here’s to hoping the youngsters can get it done without too much of a drop off.

    Also, first.

    • MB30SD

      Meeeeh…. TBD.

      • willbest

        Nah, there is no denying he is first.

        • MB30SD

          Fair enough will

      • Scharfinator

        Sure, but if you had to bet, do you think we will have as productive of a backfield as we did with Forte?

        I wouldn’t. Not saying it’s horrible odds that they could be up to the task, I just think it is more likely than not there will be a fall off.

        • MB30SD

          I actually don’t think they do my maingses. I think WR is the big 50/50 this year. They’re either going to be fucking massive and blow shit up, or alshon will puss out and/or get injuries and kw will turn out to be meh.

          I think some combo of the guys we have at rb will be good… of course that’s very dependent on how our line shapes up.

    • Bender McLugh

      I really think the hole will ONLY be felt (oh man, awesome phrasing….) if the RB’s start dropping passes. They should take a step forward this year in that department, but as MB just replied, TBD.

      • SC Dave

        Or fumbling. Matt so rarely did that, we’ve almost forgot that danger of running plays.

        • Sactowns#1

          He had a couple really painful fumbles last year though. It was quite unlike him.

          • CanadaBear

            He literally had 2 (had to look it up) last year. He fumbled 20 times in 8 years. That was with 2,522 touches. That works out to one fumble per 126 touches (slightly over).

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

            But for some reason those fumbles seemed to cost us the game. It’s prolly just my own brain damge recasting it that way.
            That’s sorta how i remember gould misses too.
            But yes, Forte def took care of the ball factoring in all the catches too

          • willbest

            Don’t F up in the 4th quarter when the game is less than 7 points. ed. Also, the last minute of the first half is a bad time to mess up due to the momentum drain.

          • CanadaBear

            My crappy memory seems to say Gould was a top kicker up until a couple of years ago and now he’s just above avg. With a shitty, struggling team, every mistake is magnified. The margin of error was non-existent so Gould’s misses, Forte’s fumbles, Cutler’s TO’s, etc. are killers.

  • BearDown100393

    John Fox certainly appreciates a high quality touch down dance from a running back.

  • MB30SD

    Cadeem carey, the *Ultimate* wildcard.

    …yaaaawn… Save the drama fo yo mamma andy

    • BearDown100393

      If this is played out properly, “ultimate wildcard” just may prove to be the new “awareness”.

      • MB30SD

        And he’s got aware ness to boot!

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  • Bears-4-Ever

    That dance is horrible…

  • willbest

    Jacquizz is JAG. If Carey is something then I expect Langford, Howard, Carey and either Perry or some TCH

  • willbest

    The Supreme Court doesn’t start up until October, so the earliest they could hear Brady’s case is after week 4 anyway. Now they could stay his suspension pending their decision but if they rule against him he would be looking at serving his 4 game suspension weeks 6-10. Also he only has a 1% shot at getting his case heard anyway.

    But lets go to the schedule weeks 1-4

    @ Arizona
    vs Miami
    vs Houston
    vs Buffalo

    Compared to say starting in week 6

    vs Cincy
    @ Pitt
    @ Buffalo
    vs Seattle

    Now obviously you don’t want to drop division home games and lose to a team that will be seriously competing for an AFC playoff bid in Houston.

    It seems that the 4 games starting in week 6 are less important so even if he loses the Pats are better off. Then again, Sept is a quasi-pre-season as teams try to find their stride so it is easy for a seasoned group to do a little early season feasting.

    • willbest

      Of, and 1% is in a vacuum. There are factors that significantly increase or decrease the chances a case will be heard. His real shot would be closer to 0.1%

    • SC Dave

      What the hell makes Tom Brady’s case important enough for the Supreme Court?

      • willbest

        He has the $500,000 to pay the lawyers to make it look important. Though I am sure at least 2 of the justices will be curious enough to read the briefs themselves rather than just leaving it to the pool of 26 year old yale and harvard grads that decide what is and isn’t important enough to hear.

        • AlbertInTucson

          The Supremes like to hear Ground Breaking Cases.

          Does Brady’s rise to that level?

          Will they want to bother at all with the court short a Justice?

          Will it matter that he’s declared himself a pal of Donald Trump whom Ruth Bader Ginsburg (Who oversees Fed District 2) has publicly (and improperly) declared she dislikes?

          • willbest

            That was an impressive rant by RBG. Even Slate slammed her for it. If even Slate is dumping on a liberal you know they have gone too far. It was clearly a breach of Cannon 5, so it will be good times if there is a Trump v. Clinton where say Trump is challenging certain Philly precincts that have a long history of turning up 100% votes for democrats with 5% more votes than voting age people in the precinct.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

            Loud mouth white guys appeals to philly ? Say it aint so…this can also apply to a lot of other cities that might surprise Clinton

          • willbest

            That is just the one that might matter since battle ground polls show within the MoE. I mean historically appealing to Chicago would be the way to go. But IL isn’t up for grabs. But you are right, I could point to a lot of places. In Minnesota they have found roughly 900 people that voted that were ineligible to vote in 2008. The MoV for Al Franken was less than 200 votes.

          • Sactowns#1

            You do know there is no big George Soros funded voter fraud campaign don’t you? I mean, you can look te facts up pretty easily but here you are. http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/2012fraud.asp

      • BearDown100393

        Media coverage for lawyers.

      • MB30SD

        Fucking nada dave… I’m surprised the dips hits up in DC haven’t planned a huge congressional hearing to spend half the year wasting our money on it like they always do. Smfh

        • SC Dave

          Gotcha. The usual canard to deflect the dopey electorate from the fact that the federal government is impotent at everything beside eroding the Constitution.

          • MB30SD

            Bingo!

            I personally ain’t a constitutionalist, and think we should totally scrap and then rewrite massive parts of a doc that was written in such abjectly different times… but I know that will never happen, and even if it did, it would end up being such a divisive clusterfuck it wouldn’t go well.

          • willbest

            Which 55 guys are you trusting to sit and a room and pound out a document?

          • MB30SD

            no such thing. hence the mitigating issue I mentioned in my last sentence above.

          • AlbertInTucson

            The document in question has provisions for making changes. They are called Amendments.

          • MB30SD

            How many new ones of those have been ratified again al

          • AlbertInTucson

            27.

            25 if you consider that #21 canceled #18, Prohibition.

            The idea of “scrap & rewite” is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

        • willbest

          I like it when congress investigates professional sports. It means they aren’t doing other things more damaging to the economy or striping more of our rights away.

          • Sactowns#1

            Freedom from vs freedom to Will.

    • AlbertInTucson

      2nd Circuit has officially denied Brady’s request for a re-hearing.

      http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/07/13/tom-brady-suspended-deflategate-appeal-supreme-court

  • CanadaBear

    Other than the fact that Carey has seen the field in a regulation game, is he going to become the new Harvey Unga and hang around against impossible odds? Year after year after year!

    • MB30SD

      Only as long as his fake dad comes to post here

      • SC Dave

        You have a good memory, MB.

        • MB30SD

          it’s spotty dave. sometimes I can’t remember simple fucking words. I THINK it’s normal getting older shit and too much stuff I need to keep straight in my brain for biz, kids, dating, etc… but sometimes I wonder what being the big hitter on D in HS and for a few years in college did to my brain. I don’t have other symptoms thank god, but I do wonder.

          Well, that was a tangent.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

            Tangents are typical for the brain damaged !

          • MB30SD

            what were we talking about again?

          • DaMurph

            Its normal getting older MB, plus your mind is hazed over by visions of tits and ass and pussy attached to women that score 8.5 plus on your charts. Its hard to remember simple shit with all that hot sweaty sex bouncing around your brain!

          • MB30SD

            True dat my brother. Will text you back after the kids go down

  • TBC

    Dude….that is one sweet TD dance

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    I love the way Carey runs. He’s always going hard and brings energy to the role, which other guys seem to feed off of. He always seems to finish runs and get a yard or two more than what was blocked.

    But Andrew is absolutely right here, and if I had to pick a 53 man roster right now, I don’t think he’d be on it. He’s gonna be a solid #2 RB somewhere else though.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Bigger wild card that Kevin White?

    • Sactowns#1

      For reals. After hearing about this guy forever I’m curious to see what he’s got.

      • Doc Nitty

        Me too. I refuse to fall victim to the lure of kool-aid again.

      • SC Dave

        Certainly expectations will be high for Kevin White.

  • Doc Nitty

    He’ll be cut and signed in N.E. where he’ll play well for a season and then cut again.

  • MB30SD
    • Sactowns#1

      I live about 10 blocks from the water. I never really got the appeal of jet skis. The main reason I want to be on the water is so I can drink beers and hang out with my friends, maybe pull a few ladies. All are fairly impossible to do on a jetski.

      • MB30SD

        yes, but they are super fun. Never loved the smell and noise pollution, but super fun to drive.

        • willbest

          How do they create more pollution than a standard boat motor? I would presume you could do more with less because its displacement is so much smaller.

          • MB30SD

            right

          • CanadaBear

            Boaters rarely go back and forth over the same 1 mile of water that parallels the beach. Not to mention most boaters aren’t going WFO most of the time. I really hate jet skis but I totally get the allure.

          • willbest

            I hit up the google, apparently upwards of 30% of the fuel isn’t consumed by Jetski engines. I find that amazing from a product regulation standpoint. Some powerful Congressman or EPA regulator must really love them.

          • Sactowns#1

            Holy crap. Now I dislike jetskis even more.

          • BearDown100393

            “Noise pollution”

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

          Jet skis are the shit! Non-motorized?
          They can keep their paddles. Only paddles i use are on chicks after jet skiing.

      • Doc Nitty

        I will always prefer the non motorized sports to the motorized sports.

        Downhill skiing, rafting, kayaking, mountain biking, vs snowmobiling, jet skiing, dirt biking. I’ll always pick the former.

        • willbest

          I haven’t done it in over a decade, but I rather enjoy sail boats. Haven’t done white water rafting in a while either and enjoy that. Ski lifts scare me though.

  • willbest

    And today’s feel good story is how the Dodd-Frank bill thwarted the little guy from trying to make money off all the HFT algorithms used by politically connected billionaires to roll the rest of us out of our 401k money.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-13/spoofing-trader-who-outsmarted-citadel-and-hfts-gets-3-year-jail-sentence

  • willbest

    The stories about this Pokemon Go game are getting pretty weird. Holocust Museum from yesterday, but authorities are having problems around the Hoover Dam, people being in parks after they close, a police station is having a problem with people sneaking around the back of it. Cemeteries, even the Westboro Baptist Church is a pokemon hotspot. I am surprised nobody has died trying to get a Pokemon yet, although maybe that story just hasn’t crossed my feed yet.

    • MB30SD

      W….T….F!?!?!?!

      • willbest

        The game is on your phone and uses your GPS to basically tell you there are pokemon hiding areas. So you get an alert or whatever and go to the area with your phone and walk around until you find the pokemon. The game creators tried to target landmarks for these hiding places, so like the park across the street is a pokemon hotspot and you see mom’s inexplicably walking around it with their phones out while their kids are on the playground equipment. Or at least it would be inexplicable if you had no idea the game existed. But apparently some of the landmarks that the game has chosen has lead to some interesting conflicts as people ignore common sense in their quest to collect all the pokemon.

        • AlbertInTucson

          “The game ain’t on MY phone!” said the angry old guy who still carries a flip-phone.

          • Bears-4-Ever

            LOL me too! I don’t need to fucking Text on my phone…My phone is a phone for talking. Not typing or chasing imaginary Pokee-shits.

        • MB30SD

          Like I said will… W…T…F….?!?!?!

    • AlbertInTucson

      Oh you just KNOW there’s a fatality coming down the pipes for THAT story.

    • BearDown100393

      AKA the scouting department of Jerry Jones’ Dallas Cowboys.

  • AlbertInTucson
    • willbest

      One of the bars in my college town had 25 cent bud light drafts one of the days of the week. They should do this instead.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Is there a knock on Langford catching the ball?

    Here he makes one of the greatest over-the-shoulder catches you’ll ever see at 16 seconds in :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6VwrEgNUNQ

    • CanadaBear

      22 receptions, 8 drops. Not good.

      • Bender McLugh

        unfortunately. Come on Jeremy, get those hands going buddy

      • willbest

        Its probably worse than that because there were probably a couple he could have gotten that didn’t qualify as drops.

        • CanadaBear

          Probably but if they use the same bar for everyone I’m OK with it. I hope Langford just had the rookie jitters and this isn’t what we can expect.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Enjoyed this at breakfast this morning. Positively one of the most enjoyable skits I’ve ever seen on Fox. White Supremacist Megan Kelly v actor DL Hughley. To put this in context, she has just come off a video link with Mark Fuhrman, one of the most famous racists in American History, a Fox correspondent on police matters. You couldn’t make this up. I don’t know which I enjoyed more, the “Don’t wow ME!” or the sign-off.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZJ7QSI7uV0

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

      That was funny. Mark Furhman known racist and purjerer epitomizes FOX.

      • willbest

        Meh. Sharpton is on MSNBC.

        • You’re about to get Jericho’d

          Having guys like Fuhrman on baffles the mind. They could get anyone and they get him. Ruins any credibility and furthers the narrative that all Fox News is garbage.

          • Bears-4-Ever

            I totally agree, it has also baffled me on why they use Funrman over all the other “Police Experts” out there. He must have some dirt on Fox execs.

          • BearDown100393

            Fox & Fuhrman are peas & carrots together.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

            Fox knows their demographic.

          • willbest

            All media is garbage. If you aren’t paying for it, then its goal isn’t to inform you but to sell you something. It actually makes the hobbyist journalist that is just reporting on their industry (which they have a great deal of knowledge in) some of the most trustworthy, because they aren’t looking to make a career out of it.

            This was something I realized back in the early 2000s when I was regularly reading Supreme Court opinions/descents/concurrences on my own and noticed how shoddy the reporting was.

          • Bender McLugh

            PBS. NPR. don’t pay and they are credible, albeit NPR is a bit slanted left. a bit….more than a bit.

          • willbest

            They both get large sums from corporate sponsors, and you don’t think the government itself has an agenda?

            I am not saying that you can’t sift through the garbage pile to find useful information, and that some garbage piles are more promising than others, but just consuming what they offer is dangerous.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

            BBC?
            Al-Jezzera?
            The Guardian?
            Christian Science Monitor?

            It’s hard to find Kronkite-esque outlets now adays.

          • Bender McLugh

            agreed

    • Cormonster

      I don’t know how you can watch this toxic shit. I had to turn it off within two minutes.

    • willbest

      I think you overestimate his stature. I had to ponder the name a bit, anybody under the age of 30 didn’t even experience the OJ trial.

      • Irish Sweetness

        She should know Fuhrman is a racist. She has her own show. Youtube exists. Two of the biggest shows in ratings the last year were both based on OJ.

        • willbest

          No Kelly should know who is on her show. I am saying the rest of the country has problems identifying who the Vice President of the US is.

    • Bears-4-Ever

      “White Supremacist Megan Kelly” I don’t know about that but I’m guess she’s a lesbian after getting that butch hair style.

    • Sactowns#1

      It’s an echo chamber of idiots. You know 90% of their viewers tuned out as soon as they didn’t hear what fits their pre existing beliefs.

  • MB30SD
    • You’re about to get Jericho’d

      If I was a columbian coke Lord I would definitely drive that and would sleep on a tiger fur blanket.

      • MB30SD

        I sleep on a vagina fur blanket… does that count?

        • You’re about to get Jericho’d

          ah that’s right, your all about the soft and curvy with 70s bush now. Do yo thang.

          If I was a coke Lord I’d drive that Evo and keep two female white tigers with runways shaved into their bushes. Tiger runways.

          • MB30SD

            mmmmmmmm…. diiiiiiscooooo buuuuush

            (not really, but I’m down with some hair)

          • DaMurph

            Just a lil fuzz on that peach!

          • You’re about to get Jericho’d

            Murph, you brought that extra little old man creepiness to it that is like a delicate Chantilly Cream added to a delicious baked good!

          • CanadaBear

            With another old fart cheering him on!

          • DaMurph

            Ill be sure to use that in the future! Delicious baked good!

        • SC Dave

          Yuck… pubic hair I can see, but vagina hair? Eeeeuuuwwwww

          • MB30SD

            hahahahahaha

      • SC Dave

        Given the tiger fur thing, the narcotics nazis would definitely beeating justified offing you.

  • MB30SD

    lemme answer that in one little word Adam……mmmmmmmmno.

    http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/alshon-jeffery-wants-an-elite-receiver-deal-but-is-he-one/

    Show us you can be the leader and raise not only KWhite up, but this offense. Stop fucking whining, being lazy, and fucking faking injuries because you’re a little bitch. There, I said it…

    Sorry I’m not sorry.

    • RenoBear

      This. In a perfect world, Alshon and white can be the perfect duo. In the reality of a Bears fan, Alshon will miss at least 6 games and white will flash a few times and then be promptly bottled up with a safety over the top etc every game. And no other receiver will make them pay. All that being said, I’m still optimistic as FUCK and I think KWhite is gonna kill it regardless of who’s on the other side of the field. Only 8 more Sundays maing

      • MB30SD

        I’m actually a bit more optimistic about white’s upside, he simply has a lot to prove this year. I’ll see alshon be a stud when I see, not a second before. I think last year was as much of him being either lazy and/or sandbagging for whatever reason. That’s just my gut, so we’ll just have to wait and see.

        I also hope that royal can stay healthy and that he’s got some gas left, cause if he does/has both, he is a chain moving machine. We’ll have to see I guess.

        • Bender McLugh

          agreed on all points

        • RenoBear

          I think my wording didn’t do white justice. I am VERY high on White, he essentially has the same skill set as Alshon but has SPEED. Like ‘make db’s go cry to their momma that its not fair’ speed. I am freakin stoked to see him demolish secondaries single-handedly. I was just trying to temper my enthusiasm with the fact that Jeffery is gonna miss some games this year. Fuck it. Bear down

          • CanadaBear

            A little hasty saying White has the same skill set as Alshon. Alshon can high point the ball as well as anyone in the NFL.

    • SC Dave

      How trollish of you.

      • MB30SD

        Why’s that dave… because my opinion differs from yours? Because I say it’s just a gut feeling and that’s all I’m basing it on at this point… and what I read between the lines re: his statements and behavior?

        I would be willing to stake our blog records on it. I have been on the right side of an awfull lot of our disagreements after all.

        My hypothesis is simply this, the knock on him out of college was he was a fat, lazy prima Donna. The two years he blew up he had one of the best, most devoted and hard working WR in the biz constantly on his ass pushing him like crazy. He goes and guess what… poof! All of a sudden we start having problems with him.

        If it talks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck dave, guess what….

        Seems you don’t possess the simple eye test ability maings. Shae McClellin was a piece of dung, but you sang his praises for years, same with conte, same with (insert any number of shitty underdog mediocre or worse fb players that you backed for years here), and in the end. They is what they was. Same deal here.

        Sorry I’m not sorry

        • willbest

          Well Jeffery isn’t quoted in the article, so I don’t know why you called him whiny. I think the only thing he has ever said on it is that he is listening to his agent on what is best for him, which involves playing on the tag.

          Cutler and all the other big guys get paid 50-200k to show up to OTAs. The guys fighting for roster spots do it for free. Jeffery is on the tag, so he doesn’t get squat to show up but he is already guaranteed a roster spot. If the Bears wanted him to show up for OTAs they could have gotten the deal done in March and given him the same incentive to show up as everybody else.

          • MB30SD

            sure, sounds like a leader I’d want on my team. and you’re a smart guy will, you can read between the lines, you’re just choosing not to admit it here.

            We’re going to find out one way or another in a couple months anyway. Hope I’m wrong, but damn straight that if I’m right I’ll be here to rub dave’s face in that shit. fucken A, maybe I’ll even start taking a real tally

          • willbest

            We just have different mentality.

            I don’t expect anybody to work for free. So many times I have had people say hey do this small job on comp, and if it works out well, I have a lot more. These people can go fuck themselves. Nobody I know that has ever been persuaded by this has ever had a good experience.

            Now its slightly different from Jeffery in that he is already getting paid. So its more, hey since I am paying for this big thing, you should do this little thing for free. Which is also shit. But be honest. Do you really think showing up to OTAs was going to generate the goodwill to get the Bears to come up $2 million per year?

            Something else to keep in mind. Pace has shown he doesn’t give a toss about sentimentality. Pace drafted White specifically so he would have options when it came to Jeffery, he isn’t going to commit to him unless he is getting a good deal or he has to.

          • MB30SD

            no, I’m expecting you to put the work in to be the guy you want to be paid as. Not sure why you’re focusing on OTAs, since I’ve never mentioned that specific touch point as a point in any of my posts about hi,.

            If you’re asking to be paid as the badass and leader of your unit, then fuck yes I expect you to act like it.

            I’ll go the opposite of you and say I’ll pay you when you prove you deserve it, fuck giving you money because we know you have the capability but haven’t proven you can continue doing it.

          • willbest

            Well OTAs is the only thing that he missed, he reported when he needed to, and nobody has reported that he isn’t ready to work. Nobody has reported he is pitching a fit over not having a long term deal. Nobody has anything bad to say about him.

            And sure a guy that just does what is required and no more isn’t all that inspiring, but you already have Cutler and Long as leaders on that offense. FFS there are 11 people on the field, you need followers. I think a position leader at like WR#1 is quite overrated. Every WR not named Jeffery, White, and Royal is going to be busting their ass because their livelihood is on the line. White has a chip on his shoulder, and Royal is coming to the end of his career. Who the hell is Jeffery supposed to inspire?

          • MB30SD

            Everyone. Not a must have, but if you’re trying to get a huge contract my thinking is you should be that guy.

            Maybe I’m just fucking old and expect my franchise players to be the leaders. Cutler is a different animal, and we already have one of that species in our zoo

          • willbest

            fair enough.

          • SC Dave

            Rub away, if it makes you feel better about yourself.

            But if Alshon has injury problems and you call him a pussy, I’ll just point out the result is no different than Mike Brown.

          • MB30SD

            Low blow.

        • SC Dave

          You stated nothing as a hypothesis in you post. Go back and read it if you don’t agree.

          Regarding McClellan, all I remember saying is that 1) I hoped he won work out, and 2) perhaps professional coaching staffs know more than we do. Clearly, the first did not happen, and that the latter was false became evident a couple seasons ago. It remains to be seen whether he stays in the league, but other than one play he was a waste.

          Conte was the best we had at the time, simple as that. Everyone cites the Packers game, but you know my thoughts on that. A blown assignment is nothing compared to the entire defense leaving a live ball on the turf for the enemy to pick up and prance into the end zone.

          Regarding Jeffrey, once again, until Kevin White shows otherwise ( if he ever does), Alshon the the best guy we have.

          But you seem to care more about your opinion of what someone thinks. So be it.

          • MB30SD

            compare alshon and his actions to Peanut. You tell me who’s the better football player, man, and talent.

            and I don’t have to prove my theories to anyone dave, they are mine and mine alone. Take them or leave them dude… you can even block me now if you want.

            I don;t know enough about emmitt to comment, except he kicked ass and took names year in year out.

          • SC Dave

            Emmitt was flamed, by none other that Jim Brown, for running out of bounds to avoid hits and leaving a yard or two ungained.

            My GUESS is that you would have agreed with him.

          • MB30SD

            Can’t argue with his numbers. It’s an attitude thing for me dave

        • CanadaBear

          My issue is the top 4 WR’s on the team went on IR last year. You only grind on 1. Do you think there might be a chance the S&C coach/medical staff/trainers &/or the fields they practice/play on might be partly responsible for AJ’s issues? He was unhappy about all the soft tissue injuries and sought out different training this off season. Do you really think he wanted to be all dinged up in a contract year? Not likely.

          • MB30SD

            here’s my deal… want. no, but when you don’t train like you did with Bmarsh and you sit on your couch eating cheetos and playing xbox, that shit is going to happen MUCH more often. speaks to overall character and investment.

            Coincidence… maybe. I personally don’t think so. Again, we’ll find out in a couple months.

          • CanadaBear

            And you know this? “you sit on your couch eating cheetos and playing xbox” Link please.

          • willbest

            Its his gut feeling. If he pulls a hammy in camp it will confirm his gut feeling. If he doesn’t have an injury this year, Jeffery will just have gotten lucky.

          • MB30SD

            oh stop that now. There’s a pattern. a pulled hammy is just that. Let’s see what happens this year and make determinations as it unfolds shall we.

          • willbest

            I just don’t know how you are going to ever change your mind about his Cheetos eating habits short of watching some sort of nanny cam.

          • MB30SD

            be a leader, step up, be the fucking man that you want to be paid for… and do it without a perennial pro bowler having to drag you there by your fucking collar.

            Your eyes. It’s really pretty fucking simple from my standpoint will, and am a little baffled it’s not that evident to guys like you and dave.

            Do you see these types for discussions going on with guys like kuckley (as one example)?

          • willbest

            DT doesn’t seem like the leader you want Jeffery to be. Dez doesn’t either. It took BMarsh half his career to enough of a handle on his limitations to be that guy.

          • MB30SD

            Suuuure, then let’s see it on the field this year. I’ll happily eat crow and change my tune 180 if he puts up this year… I’ll shit up

          • willbest

            I am just trying to get to find the rationale behind what your gut is telling you. I not about to make anybody eat crow.

          • MB30SD

            I don’t need you to make me do anything, I’ll happily do it on my own.

            Just reading between the lines… as discussed multiple times we have the same chance of being right/wrong… and plenty of middle ground. It’ll all shake out in a couple months

          • MB30SD

            nope, just like we don’t know he just had an unlucky injury year right?

            Both conjecture and POV based on the things we did see/hear… all we know is that as soon as BMarsh left the shit hit the fan. This year will be VERY telling, and I sure as hell don’t want pace giving the dude big money if he’s going to continue on his current path. Let’s see if HE can be the Bmarsh to kwhite this year… he does that and I’ll be his biggest fan.

          • SC Dave

            That looks fair enough. Especially the part about conjecture.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)
  • Denise Epstein

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    • Bears-4-Ever

      I hope trolls like this are blocked from this blog. Annoying.

      • You’re about to get Jericho’d

        you obviously don’t desire to drive a used MdcLaren.P1 while earning over hourly.87 Dollars

        • Bears-4-Ever

          Exactly and not to mention Amber Franklin is a well known Whore on the Southside.

        • MB30SD

          Oh I do, I do!

      • willbest

        Apparently the 9th circuit ruled that trolling is a federal crime. I haven’t read the opinion yet, but that is what the reporting on it indicates.

        • SC Dave

          Oh great. Another win for the umbragists?

          • willbest

            I suspect its not as bad as it sounds. From what I have heard, a guy was banned by FB, but he kept creating accounts in violation of their terms of service. He was criminally prosecuted and the 9th circuit upheld it. Now it is likely to be more complicated than that. Like I said, reporting on cases is pretty shoddy.

  • RenoBear

    Corm.. From last thread.. Bruce and kaitlyn?? Bwahahahaha!!!! That’s some hilarious shit… Speaking of shit, I MAY name their little excrements after him/her? NTTAWWT of course

    • Bears-4-Ever

      I’ve always heard that a Dog’s name should be two syllables. Something about the way they recognize the sound of their name.

      • MB30SD

        Bin… go!

        Ro…ver!

        Rod…gers!

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

          Mu…erto

  • willbest

    Two weeks until training camp!

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    FYI: you can block users so their posts don’t show up on the page for you. Scroll over the top right corner of the comment and a minus sign and arrow should show up. Clicking on the minus sign blocks that comment, but clicking on the arrow and then block user makes it so you never see their posts again.

    • Bears-4-Ever

      COOL! Thx JW.

    • beninnorcal

      Goodbye, Cheesy….
      Just kidding, I wanna here what he has to say after the Bears beat the Packers again.

    • Sactowns#1

      To keep up with Trac’s special brand of crazy or to block it from sight. Hmmm….

      • You’re about to get Jericho’d

        Brother, just being real here, you’re just as crazy at times but probably incredibly more fun to hang with. Half the time I think you just don’t respond because….at least the font is black so it can’t be all that bad.

        • Sactowns#1

          I’m more of a lasses faire kinda guy. Everyone do their own thing and don’t worry about others. Don’t get the govt involved in personal choices like drugs, abortions, who they want to marry etc. Don’t get involved in foreign nations choices on theocracies, democracies etc. We would all be better off. but religion, racism, fear etc keep that from happening. So yeah, I’m pretty chill to hang out with. you want to date dudes, chicks, drink too much, not drink at all, I don’t care. just be a cool person with a good sense of humor.

          • SC Dave

            You should be voting for Gary Johnson, then. At least over Hillary.

      • SC Dave

        Maybe it was for the trolls?

    • MB30SD

      yep, new feature as of the last couple weeks

    • CanadaBear

      Bless you my son!

  • AlbertInTucson

    https://www.facebook.com/topic/Ruth-Bader-Ginsburg/112361422110016?source=whfrt&position=3&trqid=6307223731526123020

    “On reflection, my recent remarks in response to press inquiries were ill-advised and I regret making them, ” Ginsburg said Thursday. “Judges should avoid commenting on a candidate for public office.”

    You can’t UNring that bell, Ruthie. Get off the bench!

    • Sactowns#1

      Thank you for keeping us up to speed on what the angry old white guys are really concerned with these days. I also heard there are some changes coming to medicare so call your congressman.

      • AlbertInTucson

        You don’t think it’s cause for concern? Even DEMOCRATS said she was out of line.

        • Sactowns#1

          Old lady says something true about hateful and dangerous con man vs heavy handed oppression of the people at the hands of the govt. Hmm…which one should we address? I know, the one not involving black people!

          • AlbertInTucson

            As a sitting justice, She had no business opening up her trumpet and she admits it.

          • Sactowns#1

            And? There are certainly more pressing issues we need to deal with.

          • Cormonster

            Sac, what did you think of Crazy Bernie endorsing Crooked Hillary? Hypocritical, wouldn’t you say?

          • AlbertInTucson

            You KNOW he got something nice from the party in exchange for THAT ass-kissing.

          • Sactowns#1

            What are we, in 4th grade? We all gonna start calling people ugly nicknames and singing nanana boo boo?
            Con Man Donald can try to frame it however he likes but I saw it as when the Avengers joined forces with Galactus to defeat the Chaos king. There is real evil in this world and sometimes you have to put personal conflict aside in order to defeat that evil.

          • Cormonster

            Well done! Keep up the political posts. I love em. Only Johnny’s rants are more entertaining.

          • SC Dave

            Good God sac… the ultimate hypocrisy is you berating someone else for name calling in the same post in which you do exactly the same.

            Tho I disagree with a good percentage of your politics, I used to consider you opinion. Posts like this make it difficult.

          • Sactowns#1

            That was kinda my point.

          • willbest

            What are the 3 most pressing issues facing this country? (Just curious about your opinion, I have no intention of debating you)

          • AlbertInTucson

            Jobs.

            Illegal Immigration.

            Rampant government corruption.

          • Sactowns#1

            Money in politics
            Money in politics
            Money in politics
            It doesn’t matter what your pet issue is, nothing will ever get resolved if we continue the unfettered flow of money in politics and the concentration of wealth will only get worse.
            Other concerns:
            Stop foreign wars of choice
            Free or VERY affordable higher education including vocational education
            End the war on drugs and the privatization of prisons

        • willbest

          Sac is honest. He knows there are sides. And he fights that way. Trump is the enemy. Ginsberg is shooting at Trump, therefore Ginsberg is at worst a temporary ally. You can respect that.

          I hate the people that fire at their own side.

        • SC Dave

          You’re wasting you time, Al. Integrity is no longer relevant.

        • BearDown100393

          She will be punished. No Tom Brady autograph for her.

          • AlbertInTucson

            It would be a travesty if the court deigned to hear HIS case.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Spoken like someone who thinks THEY will never get old.

        • Sactowns#1

          No, just hope not to get old and angry. Willie Nelson is a great example. Wish I could see him play Farm Aid this year in Virginia.

          • SC Dave

            Nothing like several million in the bank to ease those retirement worries

    • willbest

      For those of us in the legal profession, that was actually the second dumbest thing she said that day. The first was actively discussing which cases she wanted to overturn before she goes a clear violation of Cannon 2 & 3.

      The 3rd thing she did that surprised us was discuss which way a couple justices would have voted if they were around (Scalia death, Kagan recused). The SC is notoriously tight lipped about how deliberations go. So much so, that SC clerks get $150,000 signing bonuses (on top of their $160k salaries) after their 2-year tours of duty on the SC.

      • AlbertInTucson

        She’s stepping down after the election anyway but she’s disgraced herself with those remarks.

        • willbest

          There have been rumors circulating about her health for the last couple years, and the court has a long long history of protecting their own in these matters. Probably 1/3rd of them have done something worthy of impeaching them over.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

      Yeah, get off the bench so Hillary can nominate a new Scalia!

      • willbest

        Or a compromise could be reached where the court is shrunk to 7 justices. The size of the court is actually set by congress.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

          The same congress that can’t agree on the color of shite?
          nah. Reps had their chance. Obama nominated a relative moderate by most accounts but didn’t want him.
          So, when Hillary wins, she should ram some gay atheist transgender berkley judge down their throats and let them gag on gluton free jizz for the next 50 yrs.
          To the victor…

          • willbest

            The judge Obama nominated isn’t well liked by the left.

          • BearDown100393

            Didn’t know Jenner had a law degree.

        • SC Dave

          Wow… you learn something every day…

          I’m thinking tradition will hold sway. Washington’s did for what, 150 years? Leave it to the hubris of a Progressive to violate it.

  • EnderWiggin

    I admit defeat. Two months ago I would have put money on Jeffery getting a contract by Friday. I guess you guys were right: looks like a ‘prove it’ year.

    • willbest

      The problem is bears weren’t offering Jeffery anything he couldn’t get elsewhere. Even if he puts up another 2015 where he has some issues staying on the field but is a top producer while there somebody is going to give him Maclin money (11 million a year). So why take the reported 12 million the bears were offering. He can play on the tag for 14.6 million and if he puts in a top 20 performance he is going to have 5 teams bidding him up to 15 million a year since the Bears won’t be tagging him.

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        Even if he has a bad year this year, he’ll still get TY Hilton money next year in FA

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

          I always thought he should get TY Hilton $. But now tge caps going up so that ship has sailed.
          There will always be a stupid and desperate team that will over pay Alshon. Heck rhe Browns might be that team now that theyve thrown in the towel on Gordon

          • willbest

            Case in point the Seahawks gave Doug Baldwin 12.5 million a year.

            edit. err.. 11.5 mil

          • Irish Sweetness

            Nobody caught more TDs than Doug Baldwin last year.

          • willbest

            An overrated stat for a WR.

          • CanadaBear

            And the 4 years before that he caught a total of 15.

  • willbest
  • MB30SD
    • willbest

      So he left the scene of an accident?

      • CanadaBear

        The second moto ran over and broke his bike. He left the scene on foot.

    • CanadaBear

      If you get the chance watch Froome riding a too small bike with Look pedals. He rides with Shimano pedals. This was after he ran a few hundred feet. The crowd was totally out of control. Did you read Peter Stetina’s quote? “Somehow we’ve gotten this scene where everyone wants to get on TV for a party. You have guys dressed up in Borat costumes showing their ass, and it’s more about themselves than supporting the race sometimes. I don’t understand why you have to act like a buffoon.” This pretty much summed it up. There were douchebags in super hero costumes, numerous Borat monokinis, and just stupid “look at me” outfits (unfortunately no female nudity). People are all over the road and drunk as hell. It was a mess.

      • MB30SD

        brutal, I’d be using the froome elbow liberally!

        • CanadaBear

          Try to catch the end of the race tonight if you can. I always was afraid of people in the crowd intentionally injuring a rider. It seems they will cause injuries but only because they are trying to get on TV. WTF?

          • MB30SD

            idiots.

          • BearDown100393

            In the fall, those same guys are Packers fans.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

        The world is mocking roided eurotrash in neon speedos riding bikes for a living? Noooo…

  • Sactowns#1

    I guess a lot of people forget this happened in our parents and grandparents lifetimes. heck, maybe in some of your lifetimes (AL) http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/movies/a-look-at-the-loving-trailer.html?_r=0

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

      Maybe Furhman can give us a review on Fox.

      • BearDown100393

        Followed by a cross burning.

  • willbest

    In today’s pokemon Go news, it cures depression, anxiety, obesity, BPD… I wonder if Brandon Marshall plays.

    https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/13/pokemon-go-mental-health-science/

    • CanadaBear

      And it puts bicyclists, walkers and runners in harms way of the walking zombies. I didn’t include drivers because they can harvest the zombies.

      • You’re about to get Jericho’d

        there are tons of The Walking Text in downtown Chicago. Watching clueless girls zig zagging down the sidewalk, walking into traffic, standing at crosswalks while the walk sign is on, not being aware of any of their surrounding, etc is pretty amusing.

        • AlbertInTucson

          “Walking Text”.

          Tee Hee!

    • BearDown100393

      Lovie Smith’s new instructional tool to teach wide receiving routes. Too bad for Devin Hester.

  • bearfacts

    IMHO Langford isn’t quite as good as some think he is and Carey is far better than he’s often given credit for. If you need tough yardage between the tackles and can’t afford negative yardage that leaves you in a second or third and long situation Carey is the guy you want to hand off to not Langford.

    Carey reminds me a lot of our former RB Adrian Peterson who would also get you positive yardage every time he carried the ball but seldom saw the field due to Forte never coming off or the Bears stupid insistence on using Garrett Wolfe as a backup to run up the gut because of his draft status. Thank God those days are over.

    Unfortunately Carey isn’t the STeams stud AP was and Senorise Perry is so unless that changes it will always put Carey on the bubble to prove his worth as a runner and so far he has. He just needs more carries. He’s added some weight (215lbs) to his 5’10” frame and Howard, while advertised as a “big power back”, is listed at 6’1 and just 222lbs which means he’s about the same size as Matt Forte but with a much different running style.

    So I wouldn’t be so quick to write Carey off just yet. Langford has big play capability but he hasn’t done near enough to show he’s capable of being a dependable #1 RB and if you can say the Carey has just as much of a shot at making the team as being cut you could also say that Langford has as much chance of becoming a 3rd down or a change of pace back as he does a starter. The competition for those three RB spots should be fun to watch and you can’t rule out injuries having an impact this year either. That’s why Fox likes a stable of backs vs one workhorse back.

    • willbest

      Drafting Howard and trying to pay Anderson 6 million a year was not a vote of confidence in Langford. I mentioned before Pace has demonstrated he is a shrewd personnel guy. This seems to extend to even his own draft picks. Langford will be expected to earn his place. Only Howard is going to get that year to develop.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Ryan has not been shrewd this off-season. OL and WR is a mess. He’s determined to keep Wilkerson’s salary in his pocket for some inexplicable reason.

        • willbest

          Maybe because the Jets want too much for him. You giving up $16.5 million a year and two first for him?

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

            esp since if we wait an offseason, we can get Mo for NO draft picks.

            It’s not as if we’re making a SB run this season anyways.

            #russianFatalism

    • Irish Sweetness

      I have Howard at 6’0 and 230 (NFL.COM). IMHO he will be the de facto main man within 2 or 3 weeks. He’ll get the goal-line work and will easily beat whatever Langford’s YPC is.

      • CanadaBear

        I agree with ya but I don’t see Howard being all that either. It’s gonna be interesting.

  • BearDown100393

    “half naked ladies” – is it the top or bottom? (Where the heck do you party?)

    • willbest

      Bottom half. Don’t want any cellulite surprises later in the night, and unless the girl is under 25, the gals will look better with the support.

    • Bender McLugh

      bikinis my man, half naked until sundown or the hot tub, whichever comes first……

  • Sactowns#1

    I hate to say it but it would be funnier if the body count was higher. Like a colony of lemmings walking off the cliff. http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Two-Men-Fall-Down-Cliff-While-Playing-Pokemon-Go-386743551.html

    • MB30SD

      was just about to post this. smfh

      • Sactowns#1

        I really wonder if both those guys fell at different times.

        • MB30SD

          It’s insanity. I just don’t get it… at all

    • AlbertInTucson

      I smell lawsuits in the offing, Nintendo.

      • Irish Sweetness

        They can afford it. Shares up 50% since it was released.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Do we have any confirmed fatalities yet?

  • CanadaBear

    I saw Bill Simmons’ show on HBO last night. He had Erin on. One thing Erin mentioned was Gene Sterratore is his favorite ref. I hope Gene doesn’t do any of the Bears/Packers games this year. Knowing the Bears luck, probably both games! Simmons asked him who he would be more afraid of, BiQueens or The Beloved fans. He said the Bears fans. That seemed prudent.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I’ll take Steratore over Hochuli.

      BTW, it was Steratore’s crew in 2010 at Soldier Field that ruled the now famous, or infamous, Calvin Johnson “No Catch”.

      • CanadaBear

        You and me, too. The only thing I know about him is he had a bout with cancer a year or two ago and is on the mend. Even though the no catch gave the Bears a win, I still think it was a bogus call.

    • Bender McLugh

      Sterratore is also Cutler’s fav

      • CanadaBear

        Must be a decent ref, I guess.

  • AlbertInTucson
    • Sactowns#1

      Be AFRAID!!!

      • willbest

        That the Europeans are going to start slaughtering Muslims by the thousands? I am.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

          Interesting that more Muslim attacks don’t happen in Germany.
          It’s almost as if they think the Germans will do something crazy or something.

          • SC Dave

            Imagine that

          • willbest

            The German people have already burned down a couple facilities that were slated to be converted to refugee centers. I imagine if the attacks in Germany get above molesting the German women, they will start burning down ones that already have tenants after the doors have been mysteriously barred.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I was living on a refugee camp in the Bavarian forest in 1992, watching them burn out refugee camps in Germany on German TV. The funny thing is, you’re thinking “Well that’ll never happen HERE.”

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

            “I was living on a refuge camp in the Bavarian forest…”

            I think that is quite possibly the greatest hook in the history of literature.

          • MB30SD

            and the name of my new garage punk/pop/grunge band

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

            For some reason I’m picturing a Bjork video to it…

          • MB30SD
          • AlbertInTucson

            “It was a dark and stormy night in the Bavarian Forest…”

          • MB30SD

            France has long been the euro bastion of Muslim support. So much so that lots of judeos have stayed away.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

            I wouldn’t mind smacking some french chicks with my big stale baguette.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Meanwhile France’s President, François Hollande, spends $11K a month to style his hair which is, basically, a comb-over.

            “The newspaper obtained a copy of the hairstylist’s five-year contract, which began in 2012 with the start of Hollande’s tenure. By 2017, the French presidency will have shelled out a total of $657,582 on hair grooming, excluding housing allowances and unspecified “family benefits.”

          • SC Dave

            Bill would be proud. Did Hollande hold up any departures at Orly?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Solution: Ban trucks.

      • You’re about to get Jericho’d

        fucking disrespectful.

    • SC Dave

      The face of Islam. The religion of peace.

  • willbest

    Hispanics are the Jay Cutler of American politics.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/193670/hispanics-least-worried-election-outcome.aspx

    Which is odd considering a xenophobic, racist, bigot is the head of one ticket and the other is lead by a corrupt unlikable insider who has no problem disposing of bodies. Oh wait a second… that is every election in Latin America.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

      In danger of making grand generalizations, I find that latinos in general are suspect of ALL authority. I remember watching a Charlie Rose interview of 3 mex directors (the ones who created Pan’s Labyrinth, Amores Peros, etc) and all 3 said that though they differ in many ways, the one theme that unites a lot of their work is distrust of authority, whether it’s political or religious. I find that to be generally true among latinos.

      Also, for better or worse, many are somewhat…fatalistic. Kinda like the Russians, except that Russians are fatalistic and bitter (maybe it’s the siberian winter) while latinos are fatalistic and content (Cabo!)

      It’s interesting watching American westerns vs Mexican “westerns”. American cowboys are always high strung, miserable, border line drunks, who ride off into the sunset by themselves.

      Mex “heros” typcally aren’t any of those, and usually return back to their family, or ride off into the sunset with a senorita.

      Interesting sociological study. That’s why it’s called “Old Mexico” I suppose. Many cowboys found a certain almost buddhist wisdom in

      “Lo que sera, sera…”

      • MB30SD

        Caaaboooo!!!

      • MB30SD

        racist

      • AlbertInTucson

        “American cowboys are always high strung, miserable, border line drunks, who ride off into the sunset by themselves”

        Huh?

        SOME American Westerns but hardly enough to support THAT generalization.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

          My old metrosexual film buff wanna be director would agree w u. However, i disagree. Also violence is nothinng new to america. The chickens have come home to roost

          https://youtu.be/bzv9GUhunxk

  • Irish Sweetness

    From NFL.COM:

    Is Jeffery a franchise player? Is he really worth the money as a WR1?
    And here’s what they told me:

    AFC director of pro scouting: “Talented athlete as a big possession receiver. He would be a high-end WR2 in most places, but could be a WR1 in the right situation. He definitely makes plays as a jump-ball receiver and will get his catches, but I don’t know if he can consistently deliver big plays. I like him, but don’t love him as a WR1.”

    Former vice president of pro personnel for an NFC team: “He hasn’t shown the league that he can be The Guy. I’m still in wait-and-see mode with him. Too many drops … too many injuries. He hasn’t played up to the level that his talent suggests. I need to see him play well as the focal point of the passing game before I can pay him big money.”

    NFC assistant director of pro personnel: “He’s a game changer. He lacks great speed, but is a difference maker at the point of attack. His size, length and athleticism attacking the ball separates him from others. I don’t believe he changes a franchise, but he is definitely a WR1, in my opinion.”

    NFC senior personnel executive: “No!!!!”

    AFC director of pro scouting: “I like his size and ability to win 50-50 balls. Although I believe he is a significant piece, I don’t believe he is an elite or franchise receiver.”

  • MB30SD

    ghostbusters is on the TV… awesome movie.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

      Is the new version with an all-chicks ghostbusters?

      Is it sexist to pass on it on that basis?

      hmmmmm

      • willbest

        I love women. Which is why I don’t need to watch them pretending to be men so I can appreciate them.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

          I’ll wait for the blue-ray, which is to say, I’ll wait for the porn parody which there should be about 10 versions of already…

          CrockBusters?

          • Bender McLugh

            GhostF#ckers

          • MB30SD

            GhostBUSTers?

      • MB30SD

        I have zero interesting taking part in helping harold ramis spin in his grave

      • AlbertInTucson

        Apparently, any criticism of the new film is being labeled as “Sexist”.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I think one of the reasons the original works is because Ramis, and especially Ackroyd, both had the sense to stand back and let Bill Murray take center stage.

  • MB30SD
    • SC Dave

      A new wrinkle on “photographic memory”, eh?

  • MB30SD

    I now believe that pokemon outside is crazy trac’s god… and it’s his way to thin the crowed. I think I can get on board with his strategy.

    #darwinwasright

    http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/467938054911a0bdf9a5e94167ad436c/204081296/iphone-pokemon-microwave-melt.jpg

    • Bender McLugh

      wow. people are just……wow.

  • Irish Sweetness

    More from the You-couldn’t-make-this-up Fox specials. Direct quote from one of the bottle-blondes:

    “84 lives lost … and the sad thing is that two of those are American.”

    • MB30SD

      you have to wonder if they’re told to maintain the Fox line, or if they really are that fucking dense.

      • CanadaBear

        I think it’s combo of both.

        • MB30SD

          probably.

      • Sactowns#1

        It’s really hard to tell. I’m sure most of their viewers still order “freedom fries” at McDonalds.. because you know… France is stupid.

    • willbest

      People care about shit the closer they are to the situation. Just human nature. The Nice thing bothers my wife a lot more than previous terrorist attacks because we were just at the Taste of Chicago.

      • MB30SD

        they served french food there?

        • willbest

          No it was/is a large gathering of pedestrians that could be mowed over with a truck if you were willing to shoot some wooden barricades. Now the Chicago Police would probably be shooting you down of course lord knows where all those bullets end up.

          • MB30SD

            I was kidding will. I got it. trying to add some levi-tay to the situation.

            I was at the taste in like, the late 90’s. fun gig

          • Bender McLugh

            I do miss working at the former Standard Oil building and going to the Taste for lunch. good times.

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD

    Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/after-nice-attack-officials-warn-that-terror-threats-will-stalk-for-%E2%80%98a-long-time%E2%80%99/ar-BBumyXT?li=BBnb7Kz

    What’s the solution? ‘legalize’ profiling of all muslims so that the hassle of being scrutinized get’s so great they decide it might be a good idea to police their own a little? is there a solution?

    • beninnorcal

      I’m not sure there’s a clear solution. Turning everything into a police state cetainly doesn’t make sense. But in cases like the Orlando guy, where the system failed, that should be easier to fix I would hope.

      • SC Dave

        While I’m not “in favor” of the idea, the best defense against an Orlando guy is probably someone with a concealed carry permit that acts quickly. Won’t save them all, but will save lots.

        The Bastille day thing is a little different, because someone would have to be a DAMN good shot.

    • willbest

      Japan doesn’t have a problem with Muslims and isn’t a police state. They don’t let them in, and the ones that do get in they profile the hell out of.

      http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/06/top-court-green-lights-surveillance-japan-muslims-160629040956466.html

      Notice that the Muslims won nearly $1 million for their trouble. Not because they were being profiled, but because the leak caused it to be done in a non-discrete manner.

      • Sactowns#1

        You do know how horribly racist the Japanese have been in the past, and in some ways continue to be, don’t you? We are not a homogeneous nation with an emperor and I’m glad! Many of our greatest minds have been immigrants or the children of. Where would the world be if we told Tesla to scram? Or even if we told Samar Basu to take a hike? I love living in a nation of immigrants and a state that’s so blended. But hey, maybe you can try moving to Japan.

        • MB30SD

          I totally have a thing for japan. LOVE the food, culture, etc…

          It’s #1 on my list of places to go next. Must be fascinating… I mean, who wouldn’t want this: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fa/9b/b1/fa9bb1b6b68168bc4d09a32461a6b32e.jpg

        • willbest

          The Japanese are still racist, but they still benefit from Tesla. In fact, most the world is pretty racist. You live in the most tolerant country on the planet. And yet you are hellbent on destroying that. I don’t know why.

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t believe the US is the most tolerant country on the planet. Hell I live in a country more tolerant than the US.

          • MB30SD
          • Bender McLugh

            haha that first one cracked me up

          • willbest

            Canada isn’t nearly as diverse as the US.

          • CanadaBear

            In what way?

          • willbest

            You just pointed out in your photos below. Canadians are intolerant of in your face rioting. But the US has nearly 10 times the people larger minority populations, and the result is every crackpot theory imaginable running around and people doing all kinds of messed up things.

          • CanadaBear

            All the crackpots isn’t diversity, it’s just crackpots. If you go to the big cities in Canada they have as much diversity as the big cities in the US. Also, same as the US the rural population is way less diverse. How does being tolerant of in your face rioting make the US more diverse? No matter how you slice it, your statement about the US being the most tolerant country on the planet is hooey.

          • willbest

            Obviously you know your country better than I do, but just looking down the demographic profiles of your top 10 metro areas I find that hard to believe. But tolerance is not just about not getting uppity. Its about tolerating people getting uppity without shooting them. And its easy to claim you are tolerant when you don’t have to do it (Canada is 80%+ white). Its quite different when you have a city like Chicago that is 30% white, black, Hispanic, and then 10% various Asian, native American, and biracial. With a combination of large immigrant communities and natives that have been here forever. And not just some homogenous white culture, but polish immigrants, Italians, established Irish, Ukrainians, greeks, etc.

            You could say our nice high murder rate shows we aren’t particularly tolerant, but then nearly every murder is one group killing themselves.

            Which is a joke a comedian whose name escapes me says. “If she would have just asked I would have gladly helped, because I am an American. And I will move the world for strangers just to prove to my family I am not the asshole they claim I am”

          • Sactowns#1

            Yeah, why are you guys intolerant of intolerance?

          • Sactowns#1

            When I say where would we be I mean where would the world be. We made a horrible mistake with the Japanese internment camps, rounding people up based solely on our own fear. Lets not repeat that mistake.

          • MB30SD

            I’m just suggesting a bit more scrutiny whenever there are ANY clues.

            It comes down to expecting the disparate and totally whack gov agencies to have their shit totally linked up and in line and that’s just never going to happen.

          • Sactowns#1

            Yup, in Poli Sci you study bureaucratic theory and really its every little agency and sub group for themselves, trying to get a bigger piece of a finite pie. Hard to get those agencies to work together if they’re fighting for the same scraps.
            And yes the Orlando shooting was upsetting that there were clues there. but how many people are we willing to lock up for clues to behavior? And to what level must someone voice an unpopular opinion before we start seeing them as a potential threat? Very slippery slopes.

          • MB30SD

            indeed. I was in those same poli sci classes, but man… we gots to do sumfim! Sumfim has to change… I feel like we’re the british fighting the rebels.

            Alright erraone line up in your lines and fire your singe shot, then move to the back to reload and just keep walking in a straight line ahead… while these lunatics are driving a fucking box truck filled with explosives in from all sides. something has to be done. I don’t have that answer.

          • willbest

            Well in the private sector people get rewarded or punished for performance. Now understand a certain amount of job protection is necessary in the public sector to prevent political pressures from prevailing but clearly we don’t have enough balance there.

    • Sactowns#1

      How exactly do you police someone’s religious beliefs? It’s just silly. With freedom come risk. I think many Americans have forgotten that because for so long white America was on the other end of the risk stick. Now WE are the ones being targeted. But as our forefathers said, I will take dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery any day.

      • willbest

        Our forefathers… the ones that separated themselves from the people that they didn’t like.

        • Sactowns#1

          So an ad hominem attack on our forefathers rather than debate their logic?

          • willbest

            Rich considering none of those people would support your current ideology.

          • Sactowns#1

            My ideology of dangerous freedom vs peaceful slavery? I assure you they would. The Unpatriotic act is a disgrace as is the notion that we can wall ourselves off into some secure little cocoon. Life has risk, freedom has risk, loving your neighbor has risk and those are risks I’m willing to take. if you don’t like a free society then there are plenty of other options of places to live.

          • willbest

            Like I said, I respect you. You know your enemies. You believe ideology makes a nation and that anybody that doesn’t share your ideology needs to bugger off.

          • Sactowns#1

            I think people are what make a nation and the more diverse the better. I don’t think a large, Orwellian type govt that pits neighbor against neighbor is what anyone wants but that’s what people like Trump are really proposing. Feeding off of fear for their own gain.

          • willbest

            But you can’t point to any society in history like what you are proposing, so your proposition is entirely theoretical. And the only way it could exist is in a homogenous state where everybody believed what you did. But that would destroy the diversity you are after.

            I like the japanese culture just fine. I don’t want to live in it, but if we are both trying to live under the same authority either we compromise and both of us sacrifice who we are, or somebody gets shafted. Either way it leads to resentment and distrust.

            For example, blacks complain about being over policed. But there are 10s of millions of people that like the police procedures the way they are right now. So somebody is going to have to budge. The alternative would be to allow blacks to police themselves, but that is arguing for separation.

            And its not Trump that is trying to start a race war. Trump is trying to prevent it by keeping people separated. Its people like you Sac that just told me that I need to live the way you do or I can bugger off. Which incidentally sounds a lot like white flight from the previous generations. But now you guys are back and saying it again.

          • Sactowns#1

            Hu? Who brought race and “blacks” into anything?
            It’s the political conundrum of freedom from vs freedom to. Many on the right want freedom from (freedom from terrorism, freedom from religious offenses, freedom from regulations) while many on the left and libertarians want freedom to, freedom to move about freely, freedom to do with body and mind as you see fit etc. How is proposing a greater level of freedom and autonomy “trying to start a race war”?
            I get it, many people in the fly over states and the south are scared of people of color, Muslims included. Sorry, but I wont sacrifice American freedoms and values to make some nancy boys feel safe.

          • willbest

            Are you proposing greater freedom of autonomy? Don’t you want to restrict guns? Don’t you want to deny me the right to associate with who I want? Don’t you want to remove my ability to govern myself by pushing everything to the federal level?

            Is there a reason you don’t want Southerners to decide what the government should spend on education, healthcare, and minimum social safety nets? Presumably if Georgia was such a god awful place to live everybody would leave for enlightened California. And why stop at the US? Don’t you want to drive your minimum standards of living from a global level? By I am sure its all good you see.

            From my standpoint, I am the one minding my own business, and you are the one coming along telling me if I don’t believe in this I am bigot, and if I don’t believe in that I am a coward or nancy boy. All I want to do is to be left alone and you are the one that doesn’t seem all that capable of managing it. I honestly don’t give a flop what you all do out in Sacramento as long as it doesn’t affect my life.

            And really I don’t know any flyover white boy that is afraid of Muslims or whoever. They just want that if you roll up in our neighborhood you conduct yourselves accordingly. When in Rome and all that.

            But I do think separation is inevitable. As you have pointed out, our ideas of freedom are entirely incompatible and there really is no resolving it. One of us is going to end up oppressed in the end and I don’t think either one of us want that.

          • Sactowns#1

            No I don’t want to take your guns. I’m a gun owner and trying to restric certain types of self loading rifles based off of aesthetics is silly
            No I don’t want to deny you the right to associate, please hang out with and talk to whoever you like about whatever you like.
            No, I think you should govern yourself and your body however you like. Want to do drugs? go for it. Abortions, sex changes, marriage, whatever.
            No, having highways and schools does not mean you are being prohibited from governing yourself, it’s making people accept the cost of being in a functioning society.

          • Sactowns#1

            And I appreciate your candid proposal for a return to segregation. It’s just not a nation I want.

          • willbest

            I personally like Federalism. I wish it stayed that way, but we switched to a Nationalist government in the 1860’s and it has just creeped to being an ever bigger portion of our lives to the point where its dictating light bulb usage and bathroom rules, and sports team allocations.

            I mean I hate my City’s zoning ordinances and building codes, but at least I can do something about it if I were motivated enough. You can’t fight any of this crap coming out of DC.

            But for reasons I am not competent enough to answer, humans seem to like centralized power. Its easier for the elites to control for sure, but the common man seems to really yearn for some sort of benign monarch. But I do find it interesting your biggest compliant about politics is the money in it.

            Power and Money are two peas in a pod. The more powerful something is, the more money there is going to be. You can outlaw it all you want, but its going to find its way. Spouses and Children hired as consultants by seemingly unrelated businesses for boatloads of cash.

            I mean really the only way to get the money out of it. Would be to draw names out of the proverbial hat. Lock the people in the room with some hand selected experts for a couple months and have them pound something out in some form of advanced Jury duty.

          • MB30SD

            Ohhhh, I like that idea

          • Bender McLugh

            are you drinking already? No? You should start

          • willbest

            Its friday. I start drinking at 11am during the summer. I spend the afternoon doing my bookkeeping on the week and it helps lubricate the process.

          • Bender McLugh

            Eggsellent

          • SC Dave

            Oh come on. Like Obama is something diffferent?

          • Sactowns#1

            All I’ve heard from President Obama is calls for inclusion, equality and caring.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

            Sac. GP and i are prolly more “liberal” than u, and he comes from a finance and i a literary backround, so we cover a lot of ground.

            U don’t want to end up sounding like Keith Oberman.

            Just friendly advice.

            If u and gp teamed together in ff, u may have a chance

            Irish!bavarian refugee! Join…

  • MB30SD

    I feel like we just need some goodness this morning.

    I am here to lift… spirits gents. You’re welcome, enjoy your friday.

    http://titsboobsbreasts.tumblr.com/

    (NSFW Jokey!)

    • willbest

      I think you linked epicboobs on twitter must have been nearly a year ago. I still go there from time to time for a pick me up. So thanks for that.

      • MB30SD

        of course sir. everything I can do to help. Life is hard.

        • Bender McLugh

          I see what you did there…

          • willbest

            hah. It didn’t arouse my suspicions.

          • MB30SD

            Well, i didn’t think you’d erect a monument or anything.

    • beninnorcal

      And this is why I love you, man.

      • MB30SD

        I love YOU maaaan!

    • beninnorcal

      ‘sosexysadie’ is a pretty bad photoshop though, check out that weird arm.

    • DaMurph

      Wow that is some quality there!!

  • Irish Sweetness

    I discovered this chick yesterday. Lianne La Havas. Check out some of her own songs, they’re awesome – especially Green and Gold
    But she kills it on this Radiohead cover. Enjoy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_sJVazqw58

  • AlbertInTucson

    Deadline Day for the Franchised guys.

    • willbest

      Broncos look like they blinked first. Von Miller is being offered $70 million in guarantees. 19 million a year, for 6 years

      • MB30SD

        BOOOOOOO! I was hoping to wake up to a press release from Hallas that we snuck in there at 12:01 AM to steal him away for whocareshowmuchhecosttoget

        • AlbertInTucson

          I said earlier this week thathe’d play and he’d play in Denver.

          With the other losses on their defense over the winter the Ponies really had no choice.

          Why they felt the need to go to $70M in guarantees surprises me. Wasn’t the threshold just established at $62M or so?

          • CanadaBear

            Pretty sure Horseface thought Miller was serious and was going to sit out. With less than a day to get it done he probably didn’t want to screw around.

          • MB30SD

            agree. and I do think he was serious. He proved he was worth is. he won them that SB… and pulled that entire D (and O) along with him.

      • Sactowns#1

        Highest guaranteed money in NFL history…. and it’s for a LB. Crazy.

        • MB30SD

          he is probably one of the top 2 athletes in the league my maings.

          check this crazy shit out… AND he actually PROVED it again last year with his on the field fucking every-game smackdown of everyone.

          Shocking thought huh guys… will… dave… that a guy gets paid what he actually just PROVED he’s worth, not just for what he did two years ago under mitigating circumstances but hasn’t done shit since.

          Right? right? that’s my only point boys. You want WR1 money, fucking show us you deserve it first, don’t ask for it before you’ve proven you’re that guy. How doesn’t that make perfect sense?

          • SC Dave

            It does make perfect sense. But that does NOT make Jeffrey a pussy, which was my main complaint.

          • MB30SD

            I just think he’s a mopey I’ll show you for not paying me guy and not a I’ll lead this team have an insane year and prove you should pay me top dollar guy…

            and I really really like the first guy a whole lot less. That’s my only deal maings, but like I’ve been saying. .. We’ll find out shortly.

        • willbest

          Somebody was telling me that Nate Silver did an analysis and after QB, DE/OLB is the second most important position on the field. So it is unsurprising that we are going to see that kind of love for the position as the cap gives teams greater flexibility.

          But for him to get more guarantee than a QB is pretty amazing.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Let’s give up a first and PAY MO!!!

            If we’re serious about actually winning a superbowl and not just going to the dance……

  • MB30SD
    • willbest

      8-8 is still better than what Vegas is predicting.

      • MB30SD

        he’s still a dbag… that was a mutually exclusive comment in spite of this specific review. That said, he’s supposed to be a bit of a homer.

        • willbest

          Well he has been a dbag for a few years now. I used to like him back when all he did was the Bears beat and the daily segment.

    • AlbertInTucson

      IMO, the worse the predictions, the better as these guys so RARELY get this stuff right.

    • CanadaBear

      The other day ESPN Chicago had the question up for the break out player in the NFCN this year. The other three writers chose someone they cover. Dickerson said Stephon Diggs.

    • BearDown100393

      Is Dickerson still a douchebag if he predicted a 16-0 season?

      • MB30SD

        yes.

  • MB30SD

    Today this: https://www.dmtc.com/calendar/

    someone’s gotta do it boys. You’re welcome!

    • Sactowns#1

      Gimme a boxed trifecta in the 8th. Moonlight Drive, Dressed in Hemmes and Hollywood Don. Put $10 on Ebedan for Irish too.

      • MB30SD

        I don’t give a fuuuuuuuck about horse racing and I’ve never placed a single bet… except on myself, to get strange. BAAAAAAAHAHAHA (no… seriously)

        So many boobies out today it’s going to be ridiculous. First year this thing is on a friday, it’s usually on a fucking wednesday and it’s a total shitshow. Today should be unprecedented. But my god does every single woman there dress to the 9s with boobies overflowing low cut dresses. going to be a marathon… pre-party starts in 45 minutes at my buddies house.

        wish me luck boys and hope there are no box trucks or bombs for fuck sake.

    • SC Dave

      Well played, MB. Or shall I say, may we play with some of those!?

  • Sactowns#1

    Why the hell are British people so depressed lately? All of their most popular music is suicide inducing as of late. http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/benjamin-clementine-cornerstone/3067284

    • willbest

      You listen to the 21 pilots guys? Woe is the life of the Millennial is their thing.

  • willbest

    Oh Brady decided he was just going to sit for 4 games.

    • SC Dave

      So he grew up? Seems unlikely… did you check snopes?

  • willbest

    So a couple weeks back I said Brexit could be the biggest political development this year surpassing POTUS. Whelp… Military coup in Turkey.

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      man 2016 has just been awful on so many fronts.

      • willbest

        Turkey’s military has a history of removing troublemaker leaders. To the point that was even in their constitution at one point (might still be). Though it was thought that Erdogan had successfully purged the independent thinkers in the military and filled them with his yes men. It was also supposed to be a condition of Turkey’s EU membership that this “failsafe” clause be removed. So I guess that is off the table now. The question to be answered is who is in charge of the military.

      • SC Dave

        The war cycles are overdue. It will get worse.

      • AlbertInTucson

        The world isn’t going to hell.

        It’s already there.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Not often I agree with Geraldo Rivera but Turkey’s military have let ISIS operate with impunity.

  • BearDown100393

    Tag.

    • willbest

      Going to be a rough ride.

  • Sactowns#1

    op! Happy Friday gents! I’ll be hitting the river and the state fair this weekend to watch Dwight Yoakam. huzzah! So here’s some new tunes to start your weekend. enjoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDjeBNv6ip0

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Ultimate Wild Card”. More than a slight overstatement.

    As I previously suggested…

    More than Kevin White?

    More than Leonard Floyd?
    We all KNOW when it comes to their first round pick that’s ALWAYS a wild card for the Bears.

    More than Grasu?
    He has to be markedly better than he was last year and the last place you want pressure coming at your QB is right up the middle.

    Carey?
    I’ve rooted for him from the get-go because I watched him tear up the Pac 12 out here but, I think we got a pretty good idea of who/what he is last season and the fact that he isn’t a factor on special teams makes him more vulnerable to a visit from”The Turk.”

    • Irish Sweetness

      Perry didn’t even get flagged in the piece. He could be our best back and he never gets mentioned. I’m pulling for Howard though. He broke down on his CB.COM piece talking about his dad who passed when he was 12. He comes from smart parents, his dad was a doctor and his mother was a business woman. He and Perry will be a big piece of our offense, with maybe Langford fighting it out for the receiving back looks. I think we’re stacked at the position – but do we have the blockers up front and depth to protect them?

      • AlbertInTucson

        No Slauson.

        Grasu at center.

        These things concern me.

      • You’re about to get Jericho’d

        Irish. Langford is the main guy with Carey fighting Howard for 2nd and the loser for the 3rd meaningful spot. Perry…if he makes it at all is a special teams piece.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

    This is interesting, gentlemen. I know u think disention from ur normal thought is wrong, but it is not. It tests our ideas, will, and tolerance. And afterall, we are men. Dying for poon which is never ours. Rooting for teams which shall never will. All we have is each other. In the end.

    • Bender McLugh

      Here here

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Zimas-&-Zika (ButchDeadLift)

        And on that note one of the few things we all like is Floyd and boobs.

        https://youtu.be/bnC7TdkRnP4

        • Cormonster

          I love the sound of that Rickenbacker bass that Waters used for the Pompei video. A buddy of mine used to have a similar one but he sold it. Dumb move.

          • CanadaBear

            I know you’re favorite guitarist but do you have a favorite guitar for your listening pleasures. All things being equal and all that. I was always a vintage Strat/Tele or Les Paul/SG because of the Blues background. My friend that has the old psychobilly band always played a Gretsch White Falcon and I love the sound of that. Esp if things get twangy!

          • Cormonster

            That’s a tough call. I would probably have to go with late 50’s to early 60’s Les Paul’s, just because I love the tone when it’s set up right. Basically the Allman Brothers sound. Duane Allman, Dickey Betts, and Warren Haynes all have incredible tone when they play the Les Paul’s. Check out a younger Warren and Dickey tearing it up. This is about the time I just got hooked on these guys after seeing them live. Warren and Dickey had incredible chemistry. If you don’t want to sit through the whole thing, just check out the 6-9 minute mark. A young Warren is just fucking ripping.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GxKMUzENoo

  • willbest

    If you strike at the King, you better not miss. If Erdogan maintains power, Turkey is going to go full Islamist.

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      they missed. Coup failed. I worry what happens now

      • willbest

        Like I said I am sure Erdogan will begin a campaign of killing off his opposition. Even his opposition that didn’t participate in the coup. And he will go hardline with his implementation of Sharih law as opposed to the “moderate” reforms he had been implementing.

        I am curious however, if the EU is still going to be brain dead enough to let Turkey join. Then again if it were to cancel Turkey’s admittance, it would probably try and force a Brexit re vote. Although, the new PM Theresa May has placed Leave supporters in charge of negotiating the Brexit negotiations. Which makes me really jealous. In the US when the people thwart the will of the government, the government goes about sabotaging it as best it can.

      • You’re about to get Jericho’d

        A whole lot of killin’ and torture

  • AlbertInTucson

    The gene pool just keeps getting shallower and shallower…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is4U7Dsj_Zs

    • SC Dave

      Unreal.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Can the vision of MAD MAX be far behind?

  • You’re about to get Jericho’d

    GP, from the files of the fucking unbelievable….

    I’m showing my kids some old photos of their grandpa (my dad) that they don’t see often because he got remarried to the wrong woman after divorcing mommy. He’s a lifer, grinding it out at the office, too stubborn not to work for himself, a good guy but not a great businessman with a life full of professional missteps keeping him from an easy retirement like his buddies. Anyway, this about sums it up……

    I pull out a photo from the early 70’s and see a young Mr. and Mrs. Waffle Sr holding my older sister who is a baby and standing next to a jam packed car that looks like it’s about to make a serious road trip. It’s when they moved from San Diego to Chicago after his Vietnam stint.

    The car looks familiar, classic almost….only the front portion is visible and on an angle but I start laughing to myself. I remember that i was told he sold this car very early on in his marriage after an accident. It needed a bit of engine work to get the kinks out after a pretty serious fender bender by some drunk hitting it while parked at 6am.

    I know this car. I hang my head and just fucking laugh because in true Waffle Sr fashion…it’s a 1963 Cherry Fucking Red Porsche 356 Convertible. Mic Dropped.

    • MB30SD

      Boom… ingrained in the grey matter

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      Yowza.

      I’ll probably end up Gramps unless my investments sort out soon.

      I had a Buick Grand National in high school. I lost my parents in HS, and had to sell it and get a cheap, rusted Honda to replace it. The Honda ran all through school, would not ever let me down. But I cannot look at those GNXs and not be pissed, kinda. I guess I am glad it’s a GNX and not a 356!

      • You’re about to get Jericho’d

        haha, i could not believe it. I told my wife and she agreed that once I take care of a couple of items I have her blessing to make any purchase I want. We laughed that I simply am doing everything the opposite of my dad…like an episode of Seinfeld…

      • MB30SD

        Dude, that’shorrible. Sorry to hear that, couldn’t imagine that.

      • CanadaBear

        Glad you made it through that time of your life without going permanently off the rails. Good on ya!

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    day who knows of road trip…
    spent the last several days in Glacier National Park. The place is awe inspiring. I drove the ‘Going to the Sun Road’ yesterday. Getting started on the road can only be described as beginning a drive through a Bob Ross painting with all the happy little trees. This is by far the scariest road I have ever driven. 6000+ feet in elevation on a two lane road hanging on the sides of mountains. I am scared of heights and experience vertigo. This is not a good thing when you are on the side of a fricken mountain. I was able to soldier on paying all attention to the road and the mountain face, only looking at the view when I was able to pull over at view points. Simply amazing, words can not describe the road and views. Finally got to Logans pass and was on the way down, I could not be more relieved. Traffic after Logan pass heading east is surprising light, I guess most people turn around and head back at Logans pass. As I was heading down closing in on the bottom, I went around a blind curve(all curves seemed blind) and I had to slam on the breaks. There about 20 ft in front of me was a bear walking up the road towards me. Mind you I am in a Jeep, with no top on, I could only think that I looked like an open can of tuna to this beast. So I slammed it in reverse and start reversing up the mountain, by the way it was the first time I squealed the tires going in reverse. Luckily three park ranger vehicles come flying up the mountain and quickly corner the bear and force it back down the mountain and off the road. Turns out, according to a ranger, there is not an “exit” for the bear when it is on the road up the mountain for many miles. They had gotten a call from one of the tour bus companies alerting them of the bear.

    On another note I think I finally learned how to properly drive a manual transmission with all the mountain driving. After about a week through the mountains I am starting to miss the nice flat straight roads of the midwest. So much so that on the way through Idaho today the highway entered into a valley and it was one of the most beautiful roads I was hoping to see after days in the mountains. It was straight for miles no hills no curves no nothing. It brought a tear to my eye, this pristine road nestled between two mountains, 30 miles of heaven.

    • MB30SD

      https://youtu.be/zo-YVqV0v4Q

      Awesome

      Ps. Did you check the size of his penis?

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      Bear down!

    • CanadaBear

      The Canadian side of this park (Waterton Lakes) was about 90 minutes from my old house in the mts. Where to next?

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        I will be in Portland OR this afternoon to stay with my brother. Going to hang with him for a few days. Not sure after that. To be honest I am getting tired of being on the road, not as young as i used to be. lol. Hopefully staying at my brothers will be enough to recharge my batteries and then head down the coast, otherwise just going to start on the way back home.

        • MB30SD

          don’t be a pussy.

          You can always be at fucking home maings. your life will be spent at home god damn it! Sack the fuck up, pull it together, make it fucking happen!!

          GOD DAMN IT!!! We’re all living vicariously through you… can’t you see this, you spectacular selfish bastard! Get your head out of your ass and get back on that god damned road!

          (that’s the best I can do after opening day… you get the drift, just picture it more like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8Q1fDf0GeY)

        • CanadaBear

          If you go down the coast, Crater Lake is fabulous. Bit of a drive up and down but so worth it. From that area if you take 199 S to Crescent City, CA. you will see Redwood forests and stunning scenery. Not to mention you will be close to Humboldt County!!!!!!!!!

    • AlbertInTucson

      Now we know. HBP is actually Marlin Perkins.

  • MB30SD
    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      Hmmm… a Lambo sedan.

  • Irish Sweetness
    • CanadaBear

      No wonder he didn’t get traded. They must have been asking the moon for him.

      • willbest

        It had to have been at least a first and second. If it was a pair of seconds, I think 15 teams would have done the deal. And it probably was a pair of firsts.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Fitzy can go and sing, I guess. He’s the vet we should have gone after instead of Hoyer. Five million. Cutty goes down and we’re pushing all-in on Hoyer?

          • CanadaBear

            Fitz wants more than $5 mil. That’s why they are still pissing in the wind.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s not getting it now.

          • CanadaBear

            Who cares? He’s not coming to Chicago this year. All woulda, coulda, shoulda.

          • willbest

            They can sign Fitz to a 2-years 26 million contract with $2 million this year and $24 million next with say $18 million guaranteed. It would get them through this year’s crunch. We also don’t know how backloaded Mo’s deal is.

          • MB30SD

            Cutty goes down and we’re fucked anyway maings. We’ve rehashed this erra year since the skunk

        • CanadaBear

          Don’t know how anyone could pull the trigger on 2 firsts plus the huge contract, makes sense. Glad for him, he’s a helluva player.

  • CanadaBear
  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    Been in the Tampa area all week with my kids and SO on vacation. Got a colleague with a house on Bird Key.

    Anyhow – I had a boat on the waterways up near Anna Maria island. Kids are hungry and want to stop. There is a pier based place that Yelp says has good ice cream. We stop and it is an all Packer restaurant. So we had to walk into town and find a better place.

    Also: all Bucs fans down here are super happy to be rid of Lovie.

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      Oh yeah, Brian Johnson formerly of ACDC lives on the key. We were going to go knock on his gate to tell him we think Axl is a poof, but I doubt it would have gone well.

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    • MB30SD

      Good call

      • SC Dave

        Belize is a decent plan.

        • MB30SD

          Jungle there is amazing. Like being on another planet. Incredible. Then you can go to the cays and do the tropical beach thing… like two vacations in one

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        My kids are like “but WHY can’t we get ice cream here?”

        I march them into town, we walk a mile in 95 degree heat with 100% humidity. It’s like Oliver Stone’s Platoon to them. Just because we will NOT eat there.

        P.S. The July sun in Sarasota is fucking BRUTAL.

        • MB30SD

          hard org to like to be honest.

      • Bender McLugh

        Check out the Tropical Education Center. It’s attached to the Belize Zoo, incredible place that provides accommodations for a good price.

  • SC Dave

    Jeez… could use a new thread around here.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny
    • SC Dave

      Truth is debatable, taste is not.

      That being said, plane >>> car

    • MB30SD

      have to agree with dave. car’s not turrible. I am a BRG guy in the end.

    • AlbertInTucson

      “The Supermarine Spitfire is the best looking fighter..”

      I doubt that’s what a lot of Luftwaffe crews thought when THEY saw it.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        i bet the Luftwaffe crews were out flying commenting “Blick auf den hübschen Flugzeuge.
        Sie sind fick Schießen auf uns . SCHEISSE!”

        • AlbertInTucson

          “MEIN GOTT!”

    • Cormonster

      I think the Spitfire wing design is based off the wings of a swallow.

    • beninnorcal

      I’m going with the German FW 190 as being the most badass looking ww2 plane.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny
    • SC Dave

      If Rahm cared about the business future, he might focus on this sort of shit. Does he?
      (Honest question)

      http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-small-business-friendly-states-illinois-perspec-0112-20160111-story.html

      • AlbertInTucson

        From this Trib article;

        “Illinois is known for being hostile to small businesses.

        Thumbtack.com recently released the findings of its annual Small Business Friendliness survey. Illinois, California and Connecticut were the only three states to fail that survey, which graded states on categories such as ease of starting a business, regulations, tax code and licensing.

        Illinois failed the Thumbtack.com survey in 2014, and it failed again in 2015. It’s not the first survey of its kind, and it certainly won’t be the last.

        Local government regulators and state lawmakers ALWAYS IGNORE THEM.”

        • SC Dave

          The reason I asked is that Illinois has been trying to drive business away for a long time, and I honestly do not know whether Rahm has tried to make things less onerous. Being a Democrat, I would give Rahm a low probability, but thought I’d extend the benefit of the doubt in this summer of cordiality.

    • willbest

      I would bet money the city is less than 5 years from bankruptcy. And I honestly place it somewhere around 2

      • AlbertInTucson

        And is the State of Illinois far behind…?

        • willbest

          I think the state has it in it to play games for another 5-10 years, betting closer to 5 than 10.

      • AlbertInTucson

        So, who in their right mind is going to invest in Chicago Muni Bonds…?

        • willbest

          Depends on what it is secured against. If the Muni holders end up owning O’hare if Chicago defaults, that isn’t a bad deal. United and American Airlines etc. will just pay them instead.

      • That Guy

        I’ll take that bet.

        The city is in a disastrous financial state, but the money hasn’t started leaving fast enough yet. Give it another decade at least before we’re really talking about the right kind of mess. Then the city needs to fester for a while so people can finally realize how bad it truly is. Then the state will need to get involved and fail. Then, and only then, will bankruptcy be on the table. I’d say 20 years minimum, and there are a lot of other things that could happen first.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    CJ article uncovers that the NFL MDs are still pulling all the same shit:

    http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2016/7/8/12126370/calvin-johnson-interview-recap-what-we-learned

  • Irish Sweetness

    Anyone see Stranger things ? That was some good entertainment. Binge-watched 8 episodes in one day with the missus. Good sci-fi set in 1983. Think E.T. meets The Wonder Years. Good stuff.

    For the kids, The BFG was a decent watch.

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