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Got A Christmas Present? Better Unwrappid Fire!

| December 25th, 2016

Merry Christmas and Happy Chanukah to you all. Thanks for another wonderful year at DBB. I hope I can keep improving this place for years to come.


Bad game yesterday. Very bad. Here are some quick thoughts.

  • That was a full meltdown from Matt Barkley and quite frankly, I half expected it. I knew yesterday was not going to be an “on the bubble” performance. It was going to be definitive. How Barkley responds next week, on the road, at a division rival, will have a huge say in his role with the organization moving forward.
  • Bombs to Josh Bellamy when he’s triple covered?
  • Would I pay Alshon Jeffery $17 million a year? No. will anybody in the league pay him that? I don’t think so. Bears need to get a deal done, even if they slightly overpay this guy. Jeffery may not be a weekly ten-catch guy but he is always capable of the spectacular and there’s distinct value to that.
  • Cam Meredith is going to be the third receiver next season.
  • Don’t want to get ahead of myself here but Jordan Howard is starting to look like one of the best Bears draft picks ever. If they held the 2016 draft today, Howard is going in the middle of the first round.

  • Hard to like the way Charles Leno is finishing this season. He made Preston Smith look like Bruce Smith yesterday.
  • Tracy Porter. Wow. That was something.  Porter is the kind of veteran Fox loves to play but they can’t expect to be a successful secondary in 2017 if Porter is a prominent contributor.
  • Leonard Floyd had a terrific rookie season. Give the brain nine months off. No reason for him to play next week.
  • Why is John Fox calling those timeouts at the end of the game? What message is he trying to send? Players aren’t that dumb. They know when a game is over and this game was well over.
  • Good to see Jonathan Bullard jump off the screen a bit. Bullard needs to take a significant leap from year one to year two.
  • Pernell McPhee is an undisciplined player. And he’s more concerned with crowd noise than keeping contain. Bears need more pass rush.

Gotta be honest. I’m ready for this Bears season to be over. There are better days ahead, no question about it, but I can’t watch this collection of players play much more. I mean…Daniel Brown?

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  • SC Dave

    What’s wrong with Brown?

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Who?

      • MB30SD

        He’s either talking about 34 or NA

        • SC Dave

          34 of course. You know, the guy only one ru ner has passed. Forte passed Neal two seasons ago.

          • MB30SD

            Forte the silent not so interesting pretty good back we’ve ever had.

            Meh

          • CanadaBear

            Just keep grinding, it’s only the holidays!

    • BerwynBomber

      Let’s not get too carried away with Howard career projections. As you mentioned, WP is in a category all by himself. But even catching Forte could be a big ask. Howard is slippery, of course, but he is also a punishing-type back. Those guys’ careers usually aren’t the longest.

      • SC Dave

        Agree on all points, but there are exceptions and Howard is a rookie. Self-preservation is an important skill in the NFL and like all others needs to be learned.

  • Big Mike

    I think the Bears had 5 starters playing on defense. Tracy Porter was playing on one leg. Yesterday simply shows they ran out of gas. Same optimism as I had before yesterday’s game about 2107 team. No cleaning house isn’t the answer and it is infuriating to me, that people thinking firing Fox does anything. John Fox is not the problem. The Bears were 2 years into trying to turn a decrepit, horse shit roster into something, when they were wiped out by injuries. Obviously during a rebuild, depth will be an issue. Barkley was our 4th string QB. He had a terrible game. He might be a terrible QB, he might not. Biggest issue is our secondary. It was before the game and it is after the game. The Bears rolled out 4 guys, who shouldn’t have been on the field. Some of those guys might be good next year. I think most of them could be good if they were 1/4 of an established secondary. Kwiatkowski, played like a rookie. I don’t even know who was left on our d-line.

    Monsters Are Coming.. 2017

  • Irish Sweetness

    1. “Cam Meredith is going to be the third receiver next season.”

    > Well he was our best receiver THIS season. So who are the two ahead of him, eh? He’s shown he can’t beat off Cam – not that he needs to – but Kevin White? Nobody hold their breath …

    2. “Hard to like the way Charles Leno is finishing this season.”

    >The dude is a JAG. Always has been. We really do need to be drafting an OT.

    3. At least two of us agree on Porter. And GP’s got his nickname down ….’Hotel’.

    4. Bullard and McPhee were both disappointing this season. McPhee isn’t going to get any better, so hopefully Pace goes after another one.

    5. We need to draft a running back again. If Jordan goes down we don’t have a back that can carry the team. Tennessee have two studs, and that’s the way to go.

    6. Oh Matty. Is that the shape of things to come? I’m not so sure we can afford to cut bait on Jay Christopher. He’s our best QB and they don’t grow on trees. You guys have seen Trubisky and Kizer – I can’t comment on them, but Allen looks like the safer bet on the DL. Unrein looks like a backup.
    Roll with Cutty and let Shaw, Fales and Barkley battle it out for backup.

    As we saw in one week .. .Carr and Mariota …. we’re going to need a BUNCH of QBs to make the super bowl next season.

    Give it one more shot with Cutty, Foxy and the whole shit show. Another draft and round of FA, a pass from the injury Gods .. and … I don’t know … can we be good? Who cares! We always suck!

    I love my Bears, though.

    Merry Hannukah fuckers!!

    • willbest

      1) Jeffery is a better WR than Cam. Its not even debatable.

      2) Leno will make $7+ million a year when he hits FA. Adam’s is a JAG. Leno is a starter. He isn’t a top 10 guy, but then there are only 10 of those.

      3) Even on 1 leg, he is still the best CB on the roster.

      4) Bullard is a 3rd round rookie. He is allowed a season to develop. McPhee is an overpaid FA. The Bears share a lot of blame in his demise though. They should have sent him to IR last season rather than shredding his already injured knee in meaningless games.

      5) There is no such thing as an RB carrying a team. It can’t be done. AP couldn’t do it in MN, nobody can. The game doesn’t work that way anymore. There is zero reason to draft a RB this season. We have a stud, and we have his cheap backup.

      6) If Cutler isn’t on this team in April, the Bears are drafting a QB (or we have paid Cousins)

      7) Starting quality QB’s either make $18 million a year, or they are on rookie contracts. You cannot afford 2 QB’s unless you find yourself in a Cowboys situation. You also will not carry 3 QBs on your active roster. That 53 man limit is brutal, and when people start getting hurt you need the space.

      • MB30SD

        I’m starting to lean towards picking up cousins if we can. Then letting Shaw, Barkley, and the destroyer fight out the rest

        • MB30SD

          No Irish, fails is a Fucking joke dude… No fails!!!

          • Irish Sweetness

            You’ve admitted you’ve never seen him play, but whatever. He hasn’t done anything to suggest he’s a joke. If he’s a joke why did Pace sign him BACK?

          • CanadaBear

            Because he knew the system on short notice. No other reason.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Scenario: He knows the system but he’s a ‘joke’. You sign him back? I’m not saying the guy is a HoFer – I never did. But he gets shit on for no reason. Hoyer can’t play football the way it’s played. BArkley might be anything. Shaw looks okay. Cutty is what he is. But Fales is the only one who hasn’t actually shit the bed in public. Yet.

          • CanadaBear

            I’ve never said he was a joke. Ever! But you’re basing this on he hasn’t shit the bed in a real NFL game so the Bears should consider keeping him on the roster. That same description fits about 300+ million people in the US.

          • Irish Sweetness

            No, I know you didn’t – look two psots above your post. MB hates the guy for some reason.

            Admittedly, If we only carry two, Fales is never making the team. Again, this carrying two QBs is nonsense. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail. If your #1 breaks his leg, then you need TWO guys on the roster that can throw the ball. Why not make sure they’re on the roster from day one and clued up on the playbook, instead of running around looking for a ‘guy’ when it does happen. Makes zero sense. What would Shaw/Barkley have cost us this season dollar-wise? And we can’t carry 3 QBs because …?

          • CanadaBear

            It’s all about the 53 and most HC’s want more flexibility with their game-day rosters. Not many teams carry 3 QB’s.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That’s my point though, they should. It’s the most important position on the team and you have to be prepared for the #1 to go down. When he does, you need two more. Look at Will’s list. There’s no room for another QB as one of the other 10 spots?

          • CanadaBear

            Almost impossible to carry a 3rd guy that you think has a chance to win the game if called upon in a short notice situation. If you get down to that guy it’s game over. At least, that’s seems to be the common approach.

          • Irish Sweetness

            It’s game over if you have only two guys.

          • CanadaBear

            Most teams are lucky if their backup can come in cold and hold the fort or actually win the game. Going forward most teams hope to go .500 with a backup. Carrying a 3rd guy in hopes of winning seems like a long shot.

          • willbest

            7 O-line
            3 RBs
            5 WRs
            2 QB
            2 TE

            5 D-line
            4 OLB
            4 ILB
            4 CB
            4 S
            1 P
            1 K
            1 LS

            That is a skeleton crew of 43. You get 10 more bodies for your 53 man. You aren’t just preparing for a QB injury, but also to everybody else. By about week 3 or 4, you can expect 2-4 people to miss a game each week to injury.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            most teams carry 3 QB’s. if they are active on gameday is a different story. There used to be a rule that if the 3rd qb played your 1 and 2 QBs could not re enter the game. This came into play with the infamous “Cutler is a PUSSY” playoff game. Once Hanie took the field there was no chance Cutty or that other old fuck we had could enter the game. This rule has however been abolished and the active roster was increased by one to account for a 3rd QB

          • MB30SD

            I have seen him… In like the 3 preseason games he’s played in dude. Pace signed him back TO THE PRACTICE SQUAD because he’s obviously pretty good at pretending to be some other real nfl qbs

        • CanadaBear

          KInda doubt Cousins gets away from the skins.

          • MB30SD

            Agree, but a girl can dream

          • Irish Sweetness

            State for the record you think Cousins is a baller that can win us a superbowl.

          • willbest

            Cousins first year as a starter was last year. He had the 6th best QBR. This is Cousin’s second year as a starter. He has the 5th best QBR.

          • MB30SD

            Nah, but he’s more of a true #1 than anything we have now… But he’s still a bridge to drafting the franchise of our future.

            CAN we actually do that well, history says no fucking way… But it’s what we SHOULD be trying to do

          • willbest

            Cousins is the next Matt Ryan. Less experienced though, so perhaps he can maintain his game in big games with a few more under his belt.

          • BerwynBomber

            I’m really surprised how good his numbers are. Borderline top five in both QBR and traditional PR. I could have seen top 16 but damn …

          • MB30SD

            That’s all we need right. A QB who’s consistently decently good…. Not awesome one game and abjectly dogshit next.

            Draft a QB this year (if the value is there) and/or next year too and learned up the two pups under cousins. There you have it.

            Oh, and instead of us picking the QB(s), can we get the pats or cowboys to for us?

          • willbest

            I am pretty sure Cousins is in line for $20 mil a year and nearly $60 mil guaranteed. Consider this. Would you rather have Cousins or Rivers? And rivers gets $21 mil a year

          • MB30SD

            I fucking HATE that whiney little bitch rivers, so not really a fair question

          • willbest

            I think my larger point is, assuming Cousins hits the open market, you are giving him a 3 year commitment and 20-21 mil a year. He isn’t a “bridge” QB and you aren’t drafting his heir in 2017 and probably not in 2018 either

          • MB30SD

            I get it, rivers is a non starter for me so that was that.

            I’d be OK with cousins for 2+1 or 3 if the numbers are fair.

            That way we don’t have to even think about QB this year so we can address DB, ol, or dl, then I think you 100% draft the franchise in 18 when the class is much stronger (has to be right), and you’ve seen what you really have in cousins.

            If he’s not so great you have the new guy waiting… If he is, sweet, your new guy lots and learns. Win – win.

            Right now we have a bunch of back ups… That’s not a real strategy. Without a franchise in today’s NFL you’re just dead in the water.

          • MB30SD

            Oh I have no clue if he can do that.

            I do know he can come in and be a consistently OK QB week in week out… Letting us draft a QB this year and one next that can hopefully be taught up and become the franchise.

            Of our D and specials are beastly enough, the cards fall right, and we finally get a break on the injury side… Cousins might not fuck up a hotstreak run once we get into the playoffs.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Again, Hoyer isn’t a Bear after next week, neither is Barkley, and if he’s a UFA … well, I don’t know what he’d cost after this week … but if he comes back and picks Minny apart like a certain Jay Christopher Cutler did ….

          • BerwynBomber

            The MIN game doesn’t look all that impressive these days. In fact, you could argue that Hoyer’s first game against DET might have been better in retrospect.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Their defense was pretty good at the start of the year. I haven’t followed their injuries.

          • BerwynBomber

            MIN’s D was very good at the beginning of the year; in fact, like top of the league good. Since then it has been inconsistent.

          • MB30SD

            Oh nice! So what are fails stats starting 4 real nfl games in a row? Better than 300/2/0?

            Oh… Not that good huh?
            Oh… He’s never started 4 real NFL games in a row in his life?
            Oh… He’s never even started one??
            Oh… Wait… He’s never even made it off a PS??? In 4 years?!?!

            See where I’m going here my man? Can we stop the madness now… Pleeeeaaaaseeeee?!?!?!

        • BerwynBomber

          My only issue with Cousins is, thus far, he seems to completely disappear in big games/against good opponents. His performance last Mon against CAR was kind of another example of that.

          But his numbers/efficiency ratings certainly check out.

        • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

          if so, need better Oline that current one. Ryan Ramczyk or C. Robinson would made the case, but Allen still looks a no brain pick

      • Irish Sweetness

        1. Is certainly debatable. For example, I think he’s a better receiver, and you don’t. So there is debate there. Other than the eyeball test, AJ has 2 TDs on the year. 51 grabs and 2 TDs. That’s not a #1 guy. It’s not even a #2 guy.

        3. Five years ago maybe he would have been the best CB on the roster but I’ve been watching Porter get toasted for 14 games of the regular, and about 5 games of pre-season. How others are not seeing this I don’t understand. He also makes Deion Sander’s ‘business decisions’. So not only is he regular toast, he’s a pussy. Video evidence you say?
        http://bearswire.usatoday.com/2016/10/25/film-room-tracy-porters-lack-of-effort-and-physicality-hurt-bears-against-packers/

        5. AP is shot. The Cowboys rode Zeke Elliott to the #1 seed. Jordan Howard carried this offense on his back all season. Especially when Hoyer was in there, and the whole passing game went through Howard, as well as the run game obviously. Are you talking about Langford? Are you seriously suggesting Langford can be our workhorse if.when Howard goes down? The Steelers have Williams for Bell. TEN has Henry for Murray. We have … Jeremy Langford.

        6. I’d tend to agree on that if Barkley is shitting the bed against Washington.

        • willbest

          1) Forte is better than Walter Payton. Look we are having a debate. Fever dreams don’t count Irish.

          3) Yes I have. I know you blame Vic but bad things happen when the QB throws against the bears, and worse things happen when its near your PSH than it is when its near Porter.

          5) I am talking about AP in his prime. Not a lot of riding to greatness there. It took Favre to get them to the NFCC. Oh and the Cowboys aren’t riding Zeke. Dak is the 3rd best QB in the league this year. They are riding that line to greatness if anything.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Hall will start before Porter does. I’m calling it. He was drafted anyway, not a PS body.

          • BerwynBomber

            When?

          • Irish Sweetness

            3) Do you seriously think I have a personal agenda with Porter? I’ve just seen him burned every single time a guy goes long on him. He’s done. IF the play is front of him, okay. But fast receivers just eat his lunch. I don’t dislike him, just like I don’t dislike AJ. AJ can play – it’s a money issue with him. Porter’s a liability in the passing game though, healthy or not, and he doesn’t like tackling.

            There is no way known that Prescott is the third best QB in the league. What’s that based on? And how much of it is because he has the best OL?

          • willbest

            How much of Zeke is the o-line? How much of Zeke is the fact that teams have to respect Dak?

            And only Matt Ryan and Tom Brady have better QBRs than Dak. The dude has a 67% completion rate a 5:1 TD to INT ratio, averaging 8 yards per attempt. He has 5 4th quarter comebacks (team was down by 1 score in the 4th quarter and they win the game) in 14 games.

            And note I said this year. I am not saying he is better than Rodgers or Brees or Wilson. But this year he is playing more efficiently than them. And yes a lot of that has to do with his line and the fact that you can’t ignore Zeke, but its all synergy. Dallas is just hard to fucking defend against because they can beat you every way.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yep, DAL has mad weapons with the emergence this year of Zeke and Beasley. Couple those guys with Whitten and Bryant and yowza.

            Can’t really see anyone beating DAL or NE.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Which receiver is leading the NFL in yardage … no googling … three guesses each.

    • Bobby Douglass

      OBJ?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Nah.

    • CanadaBear

      Gotta be Thelan.

  • CanadaBear

    Barkley tried to hit a 5 run homer over and over. Oops. Can’t see Alshon getting signed. Royal should get launched. Need a stud LT and at least 1 TE. Need at least 2 WR’s, need a NT (is Goldman ever going to stay healthy?), need a DE, need 1 ILB (Trevathan injury is troubling to say the least), 1 OLB (McPhee is never getting better) and as many S’s and CB’s as Pace can round up. Oh, and a QB. How ’bout another punter and kicker, too?

    If Pace launches Alshon and Cutler the Bears have upwards of $60 mil for FA. The bad thing is, so do a few other teams. Prices are skyrocketing for FA talent. Not sure things can get much worse but it’s going to be a while until things get better (unless Ginny loses her mind and shit cans Fox (extremely unlikely)). FUCK!

    • willbest

      Launching Alshon is dumb. Guy is a difference maker. And he is going to be one of the 3-5 difference makers available in FA this year. Its not going to be a pretty class ones the franchise tags roll out.

      Bears have 60 mil now (no jeffery), if they launch Cutler it will be nearly 75 million. 80 million without royal too.

      • CanadaBear

        Not arguing about the wisdom of not signing Alshon but I really don’t see Pace paying him.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Nobody in the NFL is looking at 51 catches, 2 TDs and a PEDs pedigree and thinking “We need this guy at any cost.”

        His agent will play it like he’s Jerry Rice and drag this as far as he can.

        Tagging him without trading him would be insane at this point.

        1. Alshon is 39th in the NFL for yardage this season.
        2. He’s 111th for receiveing TDs.

        Who’s paying that guy? ?

        • CanadaBear

          Certainly not the guy who thinks Cam Meredith, Devin Aromashodu and Brandon Rideau are great WR’s. We’ll see in the off season.

          • Irish Sweetness

            When did I ever say any of the above were great? Brandon Rideau ???

            Cam is a good WR. The other two were roster bodies we had to speculate on. I was calling for Howard and Meredith to start before the season did.

          • CanadaBear

            You’ve over praised all 3 guys (and plenty of others) based on the tiniest of sample sizes. I’m just pointing out 3.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I might have expressed support for all three, I never called any of them great.
            FWIW when they find Cam in the passing game he is putting up great numbers.

          • CanadaBear

            A lot of us liked him last year and like him this year. We just don’t share quite the same enthusiasm as you.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I do hope. When the draft is done, all you’ve got is the guys on the bench and the PS. (shrugs)

        • willbest

          TDs are irrelevant. He is open in the end zone. QB isn’t throwing it at him. Oh and it doesn’t help that the bears are like 28th in points.

          The questions about Jeffery’s attitude is just prejudice bullshit. If a guy isn’t out there on a contract year he is hurt. You don’t like him because he isn’t calling out his teammates ala Marshall or just a nutter like ODB. He doesn’t have TY Hilton or Brown numbers because he doesn’t have a top 5 QB throwing to him.

          • Irish Sweetness

            “TDs are irrelevant”

            I’ll remind you of that one a lot.

          • willbest

            I don’t evaluate a player based on a team stat. Its not fantasy football. Through 12 weeks Howard had 2 rushing TDs. Are you telling me that prior to the San Fran game you were cautioning on the board that Howard might not be a stud because he didn’t have the TDs?

            Of course you weren’t.

  • BearDown100393

    The most important game is always the next game. Yesterday should and must be forgotten. Its over. Kicking a team down accomplishes what exactly? To make us sideline spectators feel better? All that matters now is Minnesota. Ante up and kick in like men. This season has been hell boys. When has a team incurred these type of injuries? Every week, POX sends out backups, JAGs, PS types and whomever against tough determined opponents. The Bears are the flagship team of this league. Every team every week gears up to play against us. Why? Because of respect. There has been defeat for sure. But there has not been quit. And yet the talk is fire this guy or fire that guy, cut this guy, draft this guy. And we don’t even know what team we really already have! A Bear was blamed and labeled a bust for no reason other than breaking his leg in the line of duty. And we are fans? Giving up on our beloved with games to be played while hypothesizing a draft order and its selection? We are being true fans while questioning the reason and purpose of Bears playing hard for reasons other than winning? These defeats are tough for sure. There is no question to that. But these defeats mean nothing in comparison to a fan base simply throwing in the towel on a team that has not. And while this team may be routinely outmatched, it still has a heart that beats and will to compete and win. That warrants our respect. There is one last battle to be fought. The Vikings, a team that stupidly mortgaged its future on a retread brittle quarterback. Is that the management preference here for the Bears? Hells bells, I sincerely hope not. And our guys are going to prepare. With or without us. And our guys are going to put it all out on the line. For Chicago. They deserve our best and respect also. And when it is finally done, this 2016 season, then we can armchair debate POX’s moves for 2017. But until then, this is our team to unconditionally support as its fans. Merry Christmas.

    • MB30SD

      So net net, it should have been irish’ dream season. Irish… Why no Superbowl?!

      Merry Christmas bitches!

      • Irish Sweetness

        How many players on IR now ? 22?

        • CanadaBear

          19

        • MB30SD

          My point was all your boys were in man!!! Perfect storm!

    • CanadaBear

      Didn’t look like they were playing with much fire yesterday. Those guys are paid not to quit. I can’t remember the last time the Halas’ or McCaskey’s ever sent me a check. They are beat up beyond belief, they have W@B for a HC and a pretty untalented roster even when healthy. I used to be one of those fans that backed them game in and game out for about 40 years. The last 15 or so, if they suck they probably aren’t going to get my full attention.

      Happy Holidays fellas. Hope everyone is safe and healthy.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I don’t think any of us are kicking the Bears. I’m kind of enjoying being this bad. I’m excited for the draft for a change, especially after last season. I would have gone with Derrick Henry over Whitehair, but it was okay.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Didn’t the Bears use the 4th pick on Lach? I hope we’re are just as fortunate this time around.

    • Criticizing doesn’t mean hating.
      Usually ppl only criticize objects they care about and let go of lost causes.

      Many savvy Bears fans have RIGHTLY criticized the Bears in the past. Dumping Olsen. Drafting CedDrunk. Letting Slausen go (for free). Shea, Lynch, Pace, Manamelua, Webb, Tice,, Tucker….goes and fucking on and fucking on…

      I mean, we’re lucky we have anyone left on these boards at this point.

      There’s some legitimate critiques of the franchise currently – Cutler, Fox, (letting Gase go), Re-signing Alshon, if they did know about White’s inj concern beforehand, the doctors/trainers, etc

      Ppl come down in diff camps on diff issues, but 3 win teams deserve MASSIVE critique, lest it’s the same shit again next season.

      I’m not rooting against the players, but rather rooting against certain cancers being sliced off the organization forever so that we can root for our team harder in the coming years.

      So let the airing of grievances commence!

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    Ultimate Grinch story my dad told me last night.

    A certain wealthy Italian businessman from old, old money sends one of his employee’s to run a plant of his in Hong Hong back in the day. The plant manager’s wife goes back to Italy for Christmas and his Boss finds out about it, invites her over to his sprawling mansion and balls her unmercilously for days on end. The next week, he fires her husband.

    My Dad goes back to Italy a few weeks later and asks his boss what happened to Fabrizio after he doesn’t see him at the annual staff meeting. My dad’s boss looks at him, frowns and says, “I had to fire him, I can’t have a plant manager who has an unfaithful wife”.

    True story, merry christmas boys.

    • CanadaBear

      Aren’t people wonderful?

      • Irish Sweetness

        “Noble be man, merciful and good.”
        – Goethe

        • Irish Sweetness

          Aside: Kurt Klein was an American G.I. liberating a concentration camp at the end of WWII. One of the girls led him to a room where there were women barely alive. He was in tears very quickly when he saw the human sadness before him, and she quoted Goethe to him when she showed him the room. He married that same girl in Paris the following year.

          http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/gerdawklein.html

    • MB30SD

      Damn, that shit is cold.

      Slut

      • CanadaBear

        I’m thinking the boss might be a worse person than the guy’s wife.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Who can know?

          • CanadaBear

            His wife might have had a reason to cheat on her hubby. The boss in this scenario is a world class heel.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Life if different for those kind of People Canada. The guy was also a driver for Ferari and the world was his oyster. He got his in the end, it wasn’t pretty.

          • I’m very glad he got his. What a fucking gigantic douche.

            Reminds me of that Biblical story when David(?) sent some dude to the frontline so he can bone his wife.

            He didn’t get smote, but got some punishment.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            I wasn’t exaggerating when I said he came from old money. Does Venice ring a bell? The Chicago mob was child’s play compared to that guys family.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        That cat’s family ran with Enzo Ferari. Shhhh…

        • MB30SD

          Must be nice

  • BerwynBomber

    Porter has been playing on one leg for a few games now. It’s a credit to his toughness that he is out there. That said, he should not have been out there.

    Brown’s been fine. The dude has soft hands. I’d have no problem seeing him in a back-up role next year.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He’s been trailing behind receivers like he was on one leg all season.

      • CanadaBear

        He pretty much has been. At least he’s out there all dinged up trying to help. Fuller … not so much.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I think we can write Fuller off at this point C-Bear. Maybe we really do need to be drafting a CB. Maybe Cutty gives us that pick … or Alshon …. aha ….

          • CanadaBear

            The only way they can trade Alshon is sign him or tag him again. We don’t agree on this but I maintain Cutler gets released. There is no way year 9 of the Cutler regime takes the field next year. Fox and Pace would both get fired if Cutler shit the bed again.

          • willbest

            Nonsense. They sell out in July when the tickets go on sale

          • CanadaBear

            So how do you explain the discrepancy between the sell out attendance 60,400 I believe and 39 K in the stands and 17 K no shows?

          • willbest
          • CanadaBear

            I would say the ESPN article is misleading. Either way, the Bears can’t be happy with that many no shows. That’s a lot of revenue not showing up.

          • willbest

            No doubt, probably $50 a seat on alcohol and food sales missing for each no show. That is money the McCaskey’s get to keep after the player revenue sharing formula is accounted for. So in that sense no shows are the best way to hurt the McCaskey’s for their gross mismanagement.

            The real concern is after 3 seasons of inferior product, perhaps they don’t sell out next July. Or at least the Club tickets don’t sell out. The regular tickets will be gone in 50 minutes again.

            After 2014 I have missed the last 2 years. I don’t really intend to go next year unless they draft a QB in round one or sign Cousins. Better things to spend my money on.

          • CanadaBear

            Pretty sure they get a piece of the parking too. There’s a reason Sweaty Teddy is Prez in perpetuity.

            I’m not sure how they are still selling out. If they bring back Cutler next year, I don’t see how they can sell that to the public. Nothing against Cutler but support for him is almost nil.

          • willbest

            Well support sure. I would probably be indifferent depending on how FA goes.

          • Irish Sweetness

            When did Cutty shit the bed? He was playing hurt towards the end of his stint this year. He dissected a good Minnesota defense. He was good last year. Why would we stink with Cutty next season? Healthy? New toys? He’s our best QB … but if they trade him I ‘m okay with that too.

            There’s no way he gets cut though. 2 QBs just went down, I don’t knwo how serious either injury was, but Cutty still has trade value, and if he doesn’t then he w]has value as a starter. It ain
            t Hoyer, it’s probably not Barkley, It might be Shaw, but Cutty ain’t all bad.

          • Johnnywad

            Tampa Bay game this year was the end for me.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Jesus I’m bad, I can’t remember that game.

          • Johnnywad

            And two fumbles.

          • And the beginning of Condor avi!

      • BerwynBomber

        He did an outstanding job early in the year on some top receivers. When healthy he’s still our best CB.

  • AlbertInTucson

    A disappointing performance to say the least.

    Multiple, bad, game-killing, decisions from Barkley.

    • BerwynBomber

      The D was piss poor too. Even before Barkley crapped the bed, the D was getting shellacked, Mel Tucker style.

    • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

      what does this kid need? it´s couching, and cast down current couching staff can provide it.

    • CanadaBear

      It seems like just when I think they are showing signs of improvement and the players are bringing it and I think they might win a game, they lay an egg. This seems like Fox’s calling card with the Beloved. It seemed like every facet of the team was flat and not real well prepared. Sigh.

      • willbest

        Last year week 15. After very close losses to the 9ers and skins. The Bears get stomped by Minnesota

        • Irish Sweetness

          I have a terrible feeling we beat the Queens next week.

          • Johnnywad

            Sam Bradford will look like an All Pro. Not to worry

          • CanadaBear

            If their D shows up at all they should win.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Green Bay Hangover.

      • And yet Irish and others STILL want Fox.
        Baffles me.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Oh man, cross your fingers and toes for Carrie Fisher. There’s a girl I don’t want to say goodbye to.
    Not yet.

    Be well my love, may the force be with you. X

    • CanadaBear

      She’s funny as hell. Hope she pulls through and regains some semblance of health.

  • BerwynBomber

    Belichick became the fifth HC in NFL history to notch 200 wins with one franchise yesterday. The other four:

    Shula
    Halas
    Landry
    Lambeau

    • Irish Sweetness

      Bellifat needs to win 10 games a year for the next 13 years to overtake Shula.

      • Johnnywad

        He might

        • Irish Sweetness

          Shula must have REALLY loved football.

          Or hated his family.

          • willbest

            Didn’t he start young?

  • BerwynBomber

    Rodgers became the fourth QB in NFL history to pass for over 35,000 yards and rush for over 2,500 in his career. The other three:

    Elway
    Tarkenton
    McNabb

  • Internet Smug Prick #9 (GP)

    Greg Gabriel says “I told you so” about Barkley. Cause he’s a douche

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-10-thoughts-bears-redskins-brad-biggs-20161225-story.html

    • willbest

      Did he predict he would have a 5 INT meltdown game after 4 outings of looking like a green NFL QB?

    • BerwynBomber

      Predicting that Barkley wouldn’t be the long-term answer (even after his first four games) wasn’t exactly stepping out on a thin limb. But hey, good for Greg. I guess …

      • Irish Sweetness

        Is it? Does a nightmare game end your career?

    • BearDown100393

      Josh Norman is a complete tool.

    • “But five starts in Barkley has a completion percentage of 58.9 percent
      (would be higher if there weren’t a lot of drops) and 12 interceptions
      in 202 attempts. Brian Hoyer had zero interceptions in 200 attempts.”

      Hoyer also was like at 70% completion

      #destroya

  • BearDown100393

    Instead of boring the Pope at the Vatican on Christmas, God orders St. Tony Dungy to bore America instead on today’s TNF broadcast. Terrible.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Hey, what’s Christmas without a bunch of fag jokes?

    Hit it Gilbert!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSqEP97hJEA

  • Huge Bears Penis

    So Friday night I had dressed up as Santa for a charity event at the local library. Turns out that several women have Santa fetishes. I agreed to oblige a single mother’s requests for me to stop by her place later that evening to fulfill her fantasy. She told me not bother knocking and just walk in when i showed up around 11. I found her underneath the tree with a couple strategically placed bows. All I could say was ‘HO HO HO’. A little after midnight we were beginning round 2 of the festivities. Evidently we were getting a little loud and woke up her 6 year old son. Unfortunately the kid walked in to see his naked mom straddling Santa Claus. I was still wearing the hat and coat so it’s not like I did not look like Santa. I am a little concerned that this may have scarred the kid. Not really sure how to feel about this situation, I mean it is not like I was pissing in her mouth.

    • BearDown100393

      I guess it was a good thing her son didn’t show up 5 minutes later when you did???

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    • Irish Sweetness

      I’ve just been watching a few Aristocrats … that could work …. it’s a start. There needs to be a dog.

    • CanadaBear

      Thurman Merman!

    • Holy shit, that’s genius. Didn’t even think about the Santa fetish. I know when I dress up like Wolverine or Superman for Halloween, that gets girls nice and wet, but Santa is another level of depravity.

      As a fellow degenerate, I salute you.

      also, may have mentioned this b4, but for u guys having a hard time finding chicks, I found that buying shoes is a good way to find VERY friendly chicks. Most shoesaleppl were women, relatively hot young women ((smart if u think about it)) who gave me their cards 3/3 times.

      I had a full plate at the time, but I imagine it wouldn’t take much to make them put their cell # on their cards w a lil charm.

      Esp if they see you perusing the more expensive items.

      Happy Festivus!

      • Huge Bears Penis

        Thank you… I guess. I was not out to pick up chicks dressed as Santa, in fact I did not realize that Santa actually got anyone hot and bothered like that. It was just a happy accident. And it was kind of creepy since she would get mad if I broke character.

        • Johnnywad

          Aaaand she apparently doesn’t mind risking fucking complete strangers in front of her kid. Kid doesn’t stand a chance

          • Huge Bears Penis

            not a complete stranger, everyone knows Santa.

      • Irish Sweetness

        You’re Crown!

    • Internet Smug Prick #9 (GP)

      “hey little Johnny, turns out your mama is a ho ho ho! Merrrrrrry Christmas!”

  • AlbertInTucson

    I am sweating this Ravens – Steelers game, big time.

    Had a 20 point lead going in but opponent has Bell and Baltimore kicker active.

    That botched FG attempt could be huge for me.

    A win clinches 2nd place and a profit for FF.

  • BerwynBomber

    These PIT color rush unis are sharp. I’d vote theirs and MIN’s as the best this year.

    • BearDown100393

      At least these do not induce seizures while watching on television.

      • MB30SD

        My vote….

        Seattle. Hands down

  • BerwynBomber

    Nice move by Flacco. Underrated mobility at times.

  • Considering the field, I think I would root for the Ravens to win it all.

    I wanna see Steve Smith lift that SB Trophy (refuse to call it the Lombardi)

  • BerwynBomber

    Who’s the third guy in the booth with Tirico and Dungy?

    • BearDown100393

      Baby Jesus

    • BearDown100393

      Doug Flutie

      • BerwynBomber

        Surprised Flutie has the NFL cachet to get this gig.

        • BearDown100393

          His last gig was Flutie Flakes.

  • BearDown100393

    George Michael is dead.

    • willbest

      53. He lived hard

    • MB30SD

      Wtf?!?! I just put freedom on for my kids the other day.

      Rip

    • Irish Sweetness

      GTFO!

  • BerwynBomber

    DuCasse starts for BAL?

    • AlbertInTucson

      Injured Raven LG moves starting RG to LG and Vlad to RG.

  • beninnorcal

    Merry Christmas, my dysfunctional Bears family.

  • willbest

    Is Rberger been throwing with his eft hand? His stats have been garbage the last few weeks

    • BearDown100393

      His upper body is extremely stiff and immobile. He looks like Frankenstein when trying to throw the ball. Ribs?

      • Johnnywad

        Super Oldness

      • MB30SD

        Side effect of rapiness

        • BearDown100393

          Did you catch his post game interview, “The Good Lord…..” religious cliches in full force.

          • MB30SD

            Yep… Made me laugh. Wish she’d have asked, “OK, ok… So what was the Lord saying to you when you were forcing yourself on that drunk girl in the bathroom stall Ben?”

  • BearDown100393
  • beninnorcal

    Quite a run from the Baltimore fb there to take the lead.

  • Wow. Great Steeler comback.
    Ravens eliminated. Ouch.

    • BearDown100393

      #Trestman

  • wreckinball

    Steelers are streaky and lucky. A flick of the arm or else the clock runs out. Got away with a very dubious play call.
    The Bengals game last year?
    Bet on them.

  • Dolphins might be in the playoffs instead of Ravens.

    Dunno how I feel about that.

    On the one hand, fresh blood, new HC.
    On the other, I don’t want the Pats to win again, and I doubt MIA can take them down in NE when it matters.

    • BerwynBomber

      Seems like most years, either the Steelers or Ravens don’t make and a seemingly lesser team or two end up in the post-season instead.

      Not only MIA, but I’d toss HOU (or IND) in that boat too.

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    Jess. A man’s heart is for his family but his balls should just be for business. Same thing goes for the vagina.

  • MB30SD

    My god, Carrie Underwood (that’s her right?) Has some seriously beautiful stems. Yowza!

    …And I’m not even a legs guy… Although I certainly appreciate nice ones.

    • BearDown100393

      The choreography looks really weird. Like she is being forced to prance around with a yeast infection.

      • MB30SD

        The NFL tryna do a dance number right? She should just sing in a bikini… Pretty much what they’re going for anyway.

        • BearDown100393

          Probably less awkward and self-conscious for her.

          • MB30SD

            Still… Nice gams on that dame

          • BearDown100393

            Definitely.

          • MB30SD

            Mehhh mehhh, that’s what I’m sayin fella (1940s voice)

          • Thought it was Yams

          • MB30SD

            Gams… Yams are what the yanomani tribe uses as currency.

            And what your gamgam makes on Thanksgiving

    • willbest

      I hate what they did to the intro this year.

      • BearDown100393

        Vagisil is the sponsor though.

      • MB30SD

        She ain’t bad on the eyes

  • BearDown100393

    Mike Martz (watching Travis Kelce): Useless.

  • MB30SD

    Chiefs just schooled donks on that first drive. Crushed them

    • BearDown100393

      Von Miller really thought that wine would pacify the Chiefs.

      • MB30SD

        Yeah, oh well. Nice gesture

        • BearDown100393

          Because he “really appreciates his division” versus “next time buy a case of my wine so I can retire early”.

          • MB30SD

            Should have spiked it and had it delivered last night

          • BearDown100393

            He mixed up the pharmaceuticals from his medicine cabinet.

          • MB30SD

            HGH

          • BearDown100393

            A lot of Chiefs gonna fail Roger’s drug test after the game.

  • MB30SD

    That kid is ridiculous

  • BearDown100393

    The Chiefs are pretty balanced team in the regular season. And then will get Andy Reided in the playoffs.

    • MB30SD

      Them, the lions, the packers if they make it. Yep.

      • willbest

        Really if you aren’t Dallas or the Giants in the NFC or the Patriots (now that Carr has a leg) in the AFC its going to be a battle.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Sad to say it but the Bears would have dodged a lot of misery if they had of hired Andy Reid instead of crypt keeper.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Has Andy got previous with 19 players on IR?

  • BearDown100393

    Bears offense > Denver offense

  • BearDown100393

    Walmart thanks and appreciates its underpaid employees.

    • willbest

      Are they underpaid? I worked retail in my teens. $15 now is roughly $9.5 back then. I was making $5.50-6.00, and only during thanksgiving to new years did I ever feel like I was underpaid.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        when a large percentage of your workforce are only getting by because of state and federal programs like food stamps, medicare, and housing assistance, then they are underpaid.

        • willbest

          heh. No. Underpaid is a relative term. Relative to the labor you provide. If I provide $20 of labor and you only pay me $10 of labor, I am underpaid. If I provide $10 of labor and am paid $10 I am being paid a fair rate.

          Its has nothing to do with how much a person needs to provide themselves with food, shelter, and clothing.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            well in that case labor is a relative term also. I may view your $20 of labor to really be only worth $5 so in from my POV you are overpaid.

          • willbest

            And that happens a lot in my line of work (as it does with NFL contacts) But then the people that pay my wage have plenty of other options if they find that unacceptable so it is highly unlikely that I am being overpaid.

            If you want to know which companies are underpaying their employees there is a word they use to admit it. Shortage, which means something exists and costs more than I want to pay for it.

            Any company complaining about a shortage of labor is really complaining about how difficult it is to find employees to underpay.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            skilled vs. unskilled. Unskilled workers don’t have the same options as skilled workers. Companies that complain of shortages are more than likely looking for skilled workforces that have options to take jobs that pay higher. Unskilled workers often have no choice but to take the job to attempt to survive, especially with the decline of manufacturing in this country. Walmart’s labor practices are well known and documented. Every year there are lawsuits against them pertaining to their payment practices, whether it is not paying overtime properly, making employees work with no breaks, and various other violations in labor laws.

          • willbest

            Takes $100 to file a lawsuit. Depending on the type of lawsuit it can take tens of millions to defend against it. This is why unscrupulous lawyers exploit the system to extract settlements.

            Curious that unskilled laborers in your hypothetical have no agency. Its a very dubious place to argue from. It might be their best choice (from their perspective), but it certainly isn’t their only choice.

            And Walmart no more controls the value of labor than the worker. If nobody is willing to work for $8 an hour, Walmart has to up the price. It “gets away with” $8 an hour because people are willing to sell their labor for that amount. Incidentally, if your food, shelter, and clothing are being taken care of with other people’s money it becomes far easier to take a lower wage. And in a preverse sense, preferable, because the “free” stuff goes away if you make too much money.

            And its not just a product of low v. high skill. Look at all the unpaid interns floating around Washington DC and New York city in NGO’s, publishing, government, etc. With mommy and daddy footing the bill these midwits can work for enrichment and experience. The unpaid internship is the next evolution of separating the Haves from the Have Nots. “free” college is just a smoke screen providing the illusion of fairness. Ultimately, its just another way to extract taxes from people that don’t consume that service and giving it to those that do.

            But back in the real world McDonald’s employees making $16 an hour in North Dakota, and they are there for approximately 6 months before moving on to a $21 an hour job driving a truck. Working at the McD’s just long enough that they can prove they can show up on time.

            Walmart does not create an environment where there are 10,000 people applying for 300 jobs every time it opens up a store. And you are basically hitting the Trump nail on his head. The system is unfair and he tapped into, but its not unfair in the way you think.

            It unfair because the elite have taken control of the system by selling the working class on the notion that dog shit is healthy for them. Why on earth would you design a system that taxes earned income more than anything else? If you tax something you make it more expensive, and in economics 101 if you make something more expensive you reduce the demand for it.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            1st point, i was not referring to the frivolous lawsuits that the unscrupulous lawyers file just for settlements. I am referring to the lawsuits that show Walmart failed to properly pay it’s employees overtime or for breaks. I think it was last year in PA that Walmart had to pay out $60+mill in unpaid wages.

            2nd point. It is pretty apparent that you have never had to live in poverty. You have never had to stand in line for an hour to get a loaf of gov’t cheese and a brick of gov’t butter. You have never lived in a rural community that lost a factory forcing you to scramble and take any job available to support your family. You say it’s about perspective, and it is apparent that you have no perspective of how the poor live and what choices they have to make.

            3rd point. That $16 an hour job at Walmart in North Dakota, does not exist any more. It was actually very short lived. Once the shale oil no longer became economically viable to drill for that ND boom went away. Also that $16 an hour at McDonalds was a product of the workforce being too small to handle the increase jobs in the oil industry.
            Funny thing, McDonalds did not close its stores because they had to pay increased wages during that time.

  • That’s the thing. In any relationship, there will come a moment when there’s ALWAYS reason to cheat.

    Relationships have UPs and Downs, and on one of those downs, one or the other usually cheats.

    Maybe I’m jaded, but many men don’t cheat because they don’t want to risk divorce, losing half, and more importantly, losing the kids.

    A lot of women don’t cheat cuz they don’t want to be a 40+ divorcee with no career, 3 kids, and loose vag.

    As a famous proverb goes, “Habit is greater than love”

    And even IF things are going smoothly, sometimes ppl cheat simply out of boredom or opportunity. Like that chick who loves her hubby, proclaims he’s a great person and father, and STILL had an affair and wanted another with me.

    #whyI’mSingle

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Bears could have a QB room of Cutler, Hoyer, Barkley and a rookie for $17 million. That’s a good room with winning depth.”

    Not quite sure about your math — Cutty alone is $16M. Whether it’s a “good” room will largely depend upon the rookie.

    • willbest

      He is 12.5 mil with a 2.5 active roster bonus, and a 1 mil pro rated cap hit. Hoyer will get paid $2.5-3 million to be a backup someplace next year. Barkley is the question mark. Before he shit the bed he was on his way to some sort of Fitz style contract. Now, assuming he rallies against the vikings, he could even fetch a Chase Daniels 3yr $21 mil type deal. Even if he has another poor outing I think somebody gives him chance to compete for starter money which has a $5 million floor (Josh McCown type deal).

      Basically, I find it hard to believe that Cutler and Barkley are in the room together, and certainly not with a top 3 rounders draft pick.

      • BerwynBomber

        Agreed EXCEPT for the idea Barkley would have made Fitz money. Not so sure. Fitz had a long track record of semi-starter/semi-competency. Gotta imagine all these Oz, Fitz, Matt Flynn deals will scare teams off four or five game wonders.

        Mind, Barkley would have made some money, but Fitz is being paid 12M this year. Would have been surprised if Barkley could have demanded that type of coin.

        • And the Jets only grudgingly gave Fitz only a 1yr deal after a protracted standoff that almost lasted till the first week.

          I agree that those other QBs will serve as cautionary tales, and the market after Cousins, Romo and maybe Garrapolo will be rather cool.

          • MB30SD

            Garrap over cousins… Cheaper and more upside. He won’t be let go though

          • willbest

            Garp is going to cost draft picks in addition to the contract extension. I would rather give Cousins $50 million guaranteed than give up my first

        • willbest

          I get that people think that Fitz and Oz contracts should serve as caution as to why a team shouldn’t give them. Or Flynn or whoever that busts with a limited resume. But talent is in such short supply at the position that its more costly to pass on potential talent when you have none, than it is to pay for it.

          Because the truth of the matter is each draft has approximately 2 QB’s that will transitions to the NFL but each year there are about 7-8 teams that need a QB. So 6 teams are looking to make due with Hoyers of the world. The result is that if you can lock in Tyrod Taylor, you do. And if Fitz won’t get off the couch for $12 million, well he gets that too.

          It wasn’t just Houston that thought Oz was legit. The Donk’s were willing to pay him $16 million a year. And they were intimately familiar with him. What was Houston’s alternative this year if not Oz? RG3? Foles? What about 2017? They are headed to the playoffs, they won’t be getting their choice at QB. They are going to miss out on Jay Cutler and Tony Romo by being committed to Oz next year? No doubt they would rather have Hoyer back on an $8 million a year deal and using the extra $10 million on other talent, but they know that isn’t a recipe to make the AFCC.

          They gambled and took their lumps and will be right back in it in 2018 when they can dump Oz. Of course being in the AFCS, their lumps involve winning the division.

          • BerwynBomber

            Largely agree with you but each situation is a bit different. Fitz kinda had that Jets by the short hairs, and was a proven, known entity (for the record I’ve always thought he was overrated). Whereas Oz was seen as the young kid who had studied at the foot of the master in Manning, had been groomed for the starter’s role and even performed reasonably well for them after Manning began shitting the bed.

            Barkely’s situation was more resembling that of Flynn’s — the young veteran/flash in the pan (though Flynn’s hype was even more ridiculous given the sample size).

            But yeah of course you’re right in that there will probably always be another Fitz or Oz each off-season. QBs are like crack and the league’s owners and GMs are the addicts.

      • MB30SD

        I’d be OK paying him 5/year to complete… Until he doesn’t

    • Irish Sweetness

      And not sure how Barkley and Hoyer provide “winning depth” when neither has really won.

      • MB30SD

        No one can with 4th stringers and 5th Rd rookies everywhere maings

        • Irish Sweetness

          This is true. And I want to see no winning at the Queens next week.

          • MB30SD

            I doubt we need to worry

      • BerwynBomber

        Hoyer, I believe, has a better career winning percentage than Cutty. But they’re close.

        • Irish Sweetness

          For us, I meant.

          • MB30SD

            Oh well herrroooo

  • Wow. Just read Jeff’s link to the story that the Vike’s secondary decided to execute their own plan instead of Zimmer’s.

    Holy shit.

    If they were on a ship, they’d have been escorted to the plank.

    • BerwynBomber

      Although turns out only to have been for the opening series. (It was originally reported as the entire first half.)

      Saw some people speculating whether Zimmer has lost the locker room. Weird.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Well, THAT makes it OK, then.

    • AlbertInTucson

      All I know is, Rodgers’ day KILLED me in FF.

      We played the only team that could have beaten us this week.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Defending SB Champs:
    Great Defense + No QB = No playoffs.

    • BerwynBomber

      They had no QB last year too. More like no running attack = no playoffs.

      • More like no transcendent defensive = no playoffs

        • Irish Sweetness

          Defensive trannies?

          HEY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ME?!

          Fack, I broke my heel ….

    • Irish Sweetness

      What happened to the Panthers team that was in the SB?

      • MB30SD

        They lost

        • Irish Sweetness

          I always get mixed up with the score thing … big is good?

          • MB30SD

            Well done!

          • Irish Sweetness

            I is smart.

          • MB30SD

            Yes, you is

  • Poe running up the score! lol

  • AlbertInTucson

    That was a giant “F.U., Broncos!”.

    • 350 pound FU

      • AlbertInTucson

        The Fridge would be proud.

      • MB30SD

        After a week-long juice diet.

        Dude’s like 375+

        • I remember Poe at the combine. A chick was cooking for me in the kitchen while I was watching him run his 40. I started laughing.
          She’s like, what’s funny?

          “I never saw someone that fat run that fast ever. Never thought it was possible”

          They replayed it a few times, but naturally she didn’t really get the context.

          That’s cool. She made bomb ass Beef Wellington.

          • MB30SD

            Yep, remember watching it… They did it like 3 times in slo mo… Like Fucking Baywatch.

            Dude’s titties were flapping all over. It was funny/gross/sad

          • CanadaBear

            I played slow pitch softball with a guy that was a stud FB in HS that ballooned to over 3 bills. He was still the fastest guy on the team, by a lot. When he was running the bases none of the infielders were very eager for a close play at their base.

    • beninnorcal

      Exact same thing I told my wife after the play. Classy.

  • BerwynBomber

    So is the AFC post-season pic settled? Now is it just a matter of the non-NE seeding?

    • AlbertInTucson

      Yea.

  • MB30SD

    This just in… travis kelce thinks he’s black!!

    Settle down vanilla ice. Tool.

    • beninnorcal

      I noticed that too. A distinctive blackscent.

      • beninnorcal

        Definately dances like a whitey though.

        • MB30SD

          I liked the Feliz natividad.

          My fav this year was ODB with the Thriller

      • MB30SD

        Ridiculous. If I was black, I’d be like, dude shut the fuck up you sound ridiculous

        • willbest

          You don’t know, maybe he went to the same school with Julie Stiles in that ballerina finds soul in hip hop movie.

          • WP4Life

            That’s funny

  • MB30SD

    Suck some more packer/rodgers dick collinsworth and michels. Gross. Smfh

  • God, I don’t think I’m ever gonna root harder for the Meows than next week.

    • MB30SD

      Yep. Fucking eating at my insides already

      • At least Shorts be with u is not there.
        And I’m gonna likely be rooting for the vikes while my lizard brain roots for the bears.

        Total mind fuck next week.

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  • CanadaBear

    Reading around the web today, gotta laugh about everyone giving Erin and the Fudge a BJ. I get it for Erin but Jimmy Johnson was blowing kisses to Dom Capers and the Fudge D. FFS the Bears almost beat them with a JV team.

    • BerwynBomber

      Agreed. Rodgers is the all-time goods but that D can look butt fucking ugly. I also think McCarthy’s game instincts are horrendous. A good Mon-Sat HC who is blessed with a HoF QB who provides McCarthy and the organization a ton of cover. That’s the Cheese.

      • CanadaBear

        McCarthy gets a pass a lot of the time because Erin bails him out. I’d put McCarthy on par with Andy Reid as a game day coach. That’s not a compliment!

        • BerwynBomber

          Yes, but I would say Reid’s issues often come down to clock management whereas McCarthy just makes plumb dumb decisions throughout the game. Case in point our game against them eight days ago. Late in the first/early in the second and the Cheese are up 7-0 and have a four and three on our 22 and go for it. They don’t get it. Flash forward to early in the third Q and we’re tied 10-10 with the Cheese and they have a fourth and goal on our one foot line. What does McCarthy do? Kicks it.

          Living in Chicago, I probably catch more Cheese games than any other team not named the Bears (though we get a lot of Indy games too) and those type of head scratchers from McCarthy are quite common. He’s been doing that sort of shit for years.

          • CanadaBear

            Lovie pantsed him before Erin took over at QB.

          • MB30SD

            Fat dumpy fuck

  • CanadaBear
    • BearDown100393

      Should just change his nameplate to CANCER.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Sheldon “Cancer” Richardson?

      • CanadaBear

        Can’t believe the DB’s decided to go rogue on that first series. I would guess Newman is out of job at the very least (after next Sunday’s game).

  • CanadaBear

    Blind squirrel, hello nut! Just wait until it comes down to clock mgmt. Nobody is worse at it than Andy.

    • MB30SD

      Yep, he’ll Reid them in the playoffs most likely. I do like that team though.

      • CanadaBear

        Me too. For some reason I’ve always kinda liked the Chiefs. Their fan base is the real deal. I’d like to see them win it all this year.

        • MB30SD

          That would be more interesting than the usual pats shit. But I secretly love the pats… Well, it’s more about the evil one and how he runs that org. I also love edelman. dude is such a stud (white, 5’9″, buff… What’s not to like about that?!?)

  • MB30SD

    Interesting, no?: http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/12/22/nfl-best-offensive-lines-week-16-preview-blanket-coverage

    Also, tres piernas rompiste en un fin de semana… I’ve never seen that before… And all to pivotal players for those teams. Brutal.

  • MB30SD

    This fucking thing on?!?! Buncha slack jawed fagooo.

    • CanadaBear

      Hard to believe this place would be deserted as well as the Bears are playing!

      • BerwynBomber

        The WAS game was by far the most discouraging of the season.

        • CanadaBear

          That TB beatdown was bad too.

          • MB30SD

            This whole season has been Fucking demoralizing.

            The only thing that boosts my outlook is jabrril peppers taking the number of one of the jags currently impersonating an NFL db

          • CanadaBear

            I wasn’t expecting much this year compared to most of the guys on the blog so it wasn’t that demoralizing for me (other than W@B). Although I have to admit I’ve never had a season where I made absolutely no effort to see the games unless they were on free TV.

          • BerwynBomber

            CB, do you get SEA or DEN regional coverage up there or basically nothing?

          • CanadaBear

            Seattle. I’ve got cable so I get a lot of games but they are almost always good teams (no Bears unless they are playing GB/SEA or they are on the Sunday, Monday, Thur night game). When the Bears were better they were the national game on Sundays and I would get those too. I don’t drink so sports bars aren’t a lot of fun for me and I was too cheap to pay for the Sunday ticket. if the Beloved get better, I would consider the Sunday ticket.

          • BerwynBomber

            True. As was DAL.

          • CanadaBear

            i expected them to get beat by Dallas (although I didn’t expect them to get throttled).

          • BerwynBomber

            Valid point.

  • Huge Bears Penis

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  • Huge Bears Penis

    new thread.

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