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Four Thoughts on Alshon Jeffery Not Signing an Extension

| July 18th, 2016

The deadline has come and gone. Alshon Jeffery will play 2016 on the franchise tag. What does it mean?

#1. An argument simply cannot be made the Bears front office values AJ as a top tier wide receiver. If they did this contract gets done in fifteen minutes. They’d pick a player with similar numbers and mimic that deal. Bears are willing to risk playing with AJ on the tag because they aren’t overly concerned about losing him.

#2. Jeffery has displayed the right attitude. And if he can’t find the motivation to deliver a career year with big money on the line he’ll never find it. Motivation, passion, the desire to give 100% on every down is something the Bears hierarchy (and quarterback) want to see from AJ on a consistent basis. They are far more worried about this element of his game than his health.

#3. But his health IS a concern. If AJ can’t manage a 12+ game season don’t be surprised if the Bears revert to the tag again in 2017.

#4. Perhaps the most important negotiating tool for the Bears moving forward is the development of Kevin White. If White turns into the star the Bears believe he will, the team will be far less willing to break the bank for AJ. If Jeffery and his team were smart, they’d understand his greatest chance for a long, successful career in this league is paired up with another top player on the outside.

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  • Irish Sweetness

    Meh. He’s not in the AJ Green/Bryant/OBJr/Julio/Antonio bracket yet. Likely never will be.
    He’s dancing in the Kelvin Benjamin/ DeAndre Hopkins boat now, waiting to see if they can take it to the next level.

    For my money Kevin White will be our #1 receiver within weeks of the season starting, or at least as productive. But why is Pace holding on to 22 million in cap space? Is that normal?

    • willbest

      It is if you have nothing to spend it on. He probably was on the phone to get Mo, he just didn’t want to part with the picks.

      • Big Mike

        You do know you can roll the cap space forward?

        • willbest

          Sure, but it looks bad to roll that much cap forward. The Bears are basically saying they are going to play without 1 Mo caliber player this year. That is like spotting your opponent a rook in a game of Chess.

          • Big Mike

            Long term thinking. Unless you spend that cap space on a very front loaded contract, you’re screwing your self year over year with a bad deal.

          • willbest

            I am not saying we should have got Mo and given up draft picks for him. But Norman and Jackson were out there. And plenty of other people to spend money on that couldn’t have been that much of an overpay.

            And yes I know it means we will be $20 million more competitive next year (or could be if we don’t roll it forward again), but it just feels like they are saying “next year” rather than “this year”. I don’t want irresponsible Saints cap management, but there were a lot of options that weren’t going to break you.

            What FA is coming out next year that has Pace licking his chops because there is no potentially critical player on the Bears roster other than Jeffery that they won’t control going into 2017. Even if they pay Jeffery and Long and Leno they are still going to have $20+ million to spend in FA.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m totally OK with them rolling it forward if they didn’t like the economic landscape this off season. It’s not like the Beloved are going anywhere this year.

  • BearDown100393

    If Jeffery exhibited the same determination to get on the field last season as this fricking contract negotation, the deal would already be done.

    • MB30SD

      So there are people with eyes out there?!?!

    • SC Dave

      I doubt Jeffrey says much. Agents do the negotiations.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    Scott Baio from Happy Days and Dana White from UFC will open TP convention.

    Then Milena will speak about Donny, she is billed in the program as a “aqua eyed beauty and total piece of ass.”

    • You’re about to get Jericho’d

      are you fucking joking? Baio?

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        Joannie loves some Chachi

      • CanadaBear

        I’m sure there are bigger douchebags around.

        • You’re about to get Jericho’d

          haha, it makes me sad because this is serious. This is the country. At this point the status quo is the safest bet out there right now. You have to vote for SheSpawn herself at this point simply because we need some allies 4yrs from now. Holy Fuck this is happening.

          • willbest

            Why do you think Trump plans on alienating every other country on the planet? The guy makes his money by being a great PR man, and licensing out his brand to others to do the heavy lifting. The guy is 70 years old, you think he is going to change his MO now?

          • You’re about to get Jericho’d

            I cannot address this post. I am sorry.

        • SC Dave

          You’d have to do a serious search tho

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    My kids made Rice Krispie treats last night using fluffy marshmallows. I thought of AJ and his workouts.

    • Bender McLugh

      turrible

  • willbest

    Next year’s tag on AJ will be over 17.5 million. There will be no tag on Jeffery next year. This is probably why Jeffery doesn’t care he is on the tag this year because he is making more than he would on a long term deal. He gets 1 more year for the cap to go up even more, and he will get to choose his team next year.

    • Big Mike

      Always negative. Jeffery is a beast. Jeffery and White could be historic. You look at the $s being paid to the position group. Well in line with team goals. Bears should work on locking him during the season, or right after. If he has a career year, that’s fantastic.

      • willbest

        Yes he should get a deal done before the Bears have to tag him, because the tag is a nonstart. A 17.5 million tag will give zero incentive for Jeffery to sign a long term deal below 15.5-16 mil a year.

        Its my opinion that if AJ only wanted 14 million, the Bears are going to look like absolute fools not giving it to him. I don’t have a lot of faith in the scenario Pace seems to be betting on where White is a stud, and Jeffery is expendable.

        • MB30SD

          I do

          • SC Dave

            Do you believe that having Alshon on the field did not help Brandon Marshall? Or Jay Cutler, for that matter?

            It’s a team game, and I’d rather have two top ten receivers than one top three and one thirty-something. Unless you’re talking the second coming of Jerry Rice.

          • MB30SD

            I’m saying that he isn’t that guy dave.

            He’s Robin not batman, he’s the sucker fish not the shark. that is why it pissed me off to hear him thinking he deserves batman money. Show me

          • You’re about to get Jericho’d

            even Rice had John Taylor though….and a hall of fame coach that invented the West Coast offense….and a HOF QB with one of the most versatile RB’s in NFL history…and an offensive line that used to get fined if Montana got sacked….
            People are just pissed because Jeffery is asking for the fucking moon and hasn’t proved he deserves that kind of money. Bears can’t win though because it’s his last year as a Bear regardless of how he plays.

          • willbest

            If he puts up 1400 yards and 10 TDs while White does say 600 and 6, Bears are going to pay Jeffery 15 million a year. Though in most scenarios Jeffery is playing for another team next year.

      • SC Dave

        I don’t get all the Alshon hate around here. Furthermore, I contend that Alshon has every bit as much potential to help Kevin White as vice versa.

        • Big Mike

          Agreed. My theory is that it was so clear how much better Bears were with him than without him last season, that it just pissed people off that he didn’t play. Kevin White could be a stud. He fits very well with Alshon and provides the a speed/deep ball dimension that should help the Bears a great deal in both the passing and running game. But if there’s no Alshon teams can just play high/low and the speed threat is negated. An NFL team needs 1 Solid WR to look like a professional offense. Having 2 studs, causes all sorts of problems. Alshon should like the situation in Chicago. But if he has a good year, he’s simply going to take the highest offer

          • SC Dave

            Absolutely this. I would hope the last sentence proves false if AJ kicks ass.

            But given the loyalty Pox showed Forte, he could well leave regardless. I would certainly take that into account were I in AJ’s place.

          • Big Mike

            Only about money for AJ. Bears might get away with a total dollar contract less than somewhere else if it’s front loaded and or more money guaranteed. Brandon’s going to recruit him, he knows how much better Alshon made him. That’s the only discount. The only wildcard in my book is would AJ sign a reasonable midseason offer. I doubt the Bears would give it. What they are saying is we have a price for a top tier WR. We’ll pay that.. if you are one. Prove it. If not we have a number of places where we are confident we can use the money.

          • willbest

            Jets are going to have cap issues if they end up paying Fitzmagic. Plus they already have Decker.

          • CanadaBear

            I was watching a sports talk show with Hub and he was talking about Alshon just being a small town kid and has never been comfortable in Chicago. If there’s any truth to that, he won’t be going to NY.

          • Big Mike

            @disqus_DztgdNPsoy:disqus, also pointed out the Jets cap situation and I believe the WR who plays opposite Brandon for the Jets is pretty good. I don’t know the situation. But that shot down both of my reasons. Chicago is the world’s biggest small town. I just like Alshon. As far as WRs go, he’s not mouthy. His biggest “crimes” are getting hurt, and staying out of OTAs Chicago sports fans will tolerate almost anything better than the appearance of less than 100% commitment to their teams. By word and action. See d-rose if you need a hint. Guy blows out his knee twice. A year in year out lock for All Star is reduced to a shadow of himself. If he says the right thing, projects the right attitude this kid could have continued to be idolized. Right now Kyle Scharber of the Cubs is winning fans over for life. He had a season ending injury in the first series of the year I think. He’s winning praise for “going to work”. Kyle trots out there in his uniform every day and does his stretches. Says the right thing and is being championed as a man of great character. You think fans in Chicago will cut him more slack, than if he sulked like Drose.

          • Big Mike

            @willbest:disqus pointed out that the Jets have Decker to go with Marshall.

  • willbest

    So ghostbusters couldn’t beat the 2nd weekend of Secret Life of Pets. Which is apparently decent enough that I am going to need to take the Kiddos to. Studios are doing a good job getting my money this year. Incidentally, I suspect Ghostbusters had a rally effect helping it this weekend. I won’t be surprised to see a 60-70% drop off next weekend when Ice Age 5 and Star Trek 13 come out.

    Maybe they should try remaking Saving Private Ryan with an all female cast next, I would probably pay money to watch that.

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      All female Goodfellas. that would rock.

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        An all female Glengarry Glen Ross.

        • MB30SD

          All female predator

          … I’m no misogynist, but I am a purist and I wouldn’t watch any of that shit. Silly.

          • willbest

            I am a misogynist since its been redefined to include anybody that notices differences between sexes other than reproductive organs.

            But you pretty much nailed why I have a problem with this. Don’t appropriate another person’s work and claim you have done anything groundbreaking.

        • CanadaBear

          How fucking catty would that be?

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            pretty fucking catty

  • I see no way in hell the Bears tag him again next year. That tag would be 120% of this year’s $14.6M, which is $17.5M. Add those two up, and they’d be paying him over $32M for 2 years, fully guaranteed.

    His current contract demands are probably somewhere in the neighborhood of $35-40M fully guaranteed, over 5 years (that’s what other top WRs get). If they’re not willing to pay that, why would they give him almost all of that in only 2 years?

    Jeffery is signing a long-term contract next offseason. The only question is whether that comes from Chicago or somewhere else.

  • Jack Lacan

    “We’ll meet again, don’t know where, don’t know when,
    Vera Lynn

    Vera Lynn

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny


      Christmas comes but once a year for every girl and boy
      The laughter and the joy they find in each new toy
      I’ll tell you of a little boy who lives across the way
      This little fella’s Christmas is just another day

      He’s the little boy that Santa Claus forgot
      And goodness knows, he didn’t want a lot
      He sent a note to Santa
      For some soldiers and a drum
      It broke his little heart
      When he found Santa hadn’t come

      In the street he envied all those lucky boys
      Then wandered home to last year’s broken toys
      I’m so sorry for that laddie
      He hasn’t got a daddy
      The little boy that Santa Claus forgot

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    The Toronto Sun reported the NFL will use computer chips inserted into each kicked ball used during the preseason. One aspect to be tracked is how far inside the upright each made kick travels. If the experiment is successful, the competition committee could decide to continue the data collecting by using the chip kicked balls during Thursday Night Football, per the report.

    “The discussion has really revolved around narrowing the uprights,” NFL VP of Officiating Dean Blandino told The Sun of how the league is looking at creating a more difficult kick. “That would be one way to affect both the extra point and the field goal. (Success rates) have continued to climb over the years as our field-goal kickers and that whole process has become so specialized, from long snapper to holder to kicker.

    • Scharfinator

      When do these dumbasses figure out they can use this for goal line tech as well?

      • willbest

        Why stop at goal line? If you are committed to retrofitting for that why not do all ball placements.

        • Scharfinator

          Right? Seems like something they should have done years ago.

          • willbest

            technology probably wasn’t there a couple years ago. Plus the guys with the orange sticks are part of the game. They would be gone. The ref’s wrist watch display would tell him if its a first down or not.

          • Scharfinator

            Oh that technology has been around for plenty of time. Maybe not decades, but the last 5 years? Easy.

        • It would probably take too long for ball placement to do it every play. That’s my guess.

          • willbest

            You think? ref has a smart phone watch that tells him which direction to go and where and how far and when he gets there it turns green or something.

          • SC Dave

            This this this. Unless they had a robot do it.

          • willbest

            That is coming.

            There will be two types of humans in 50 years. Those that service robots, and those that are expendable.

  • BuddhaJoe

    I’d hate to see him walk, he’s one of the few Emery picks that actually worked out. It’s hard to justify paying him AJ Green money but those contracts are just going to keep going up in value. Seems like it’d be better to lock him up now before WR contracts are $20 million for a guy of his caliber. The Cutler deal looked like a lot too, but look at the market now.

    • SC Dave

      Some here wrote how great the Cutler deal was, long term. The gamble was would he make it there, and the answer looks to be ‘yes’.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    Hey, now this is today’s fun fun news:

    The Turks have just showed up in force at the US airbase in Turkey to attempt to confiscate the 50 nukes stored in a vault there.

    I bet that goes well.

    • willbest

      I was thinking the one silver lining in all of this is that it gets Turkey out of NATO.

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        Erdogan staged a fake coup, just got himself a patsy, and now – as the Muslim run government that hates the secular military – wants it’s secret police to go get American Nukes.

        Yeah.

        Getting kicked from NATO should be the least of the worries for those fuckers.

        • SC Dave

          Woe be to the women of Turkey under Sharia law.

          • willbest

            And the gays. Throwing them off buildings is a sport over there.

    • SC Dave

      Thank God Hilary ain’t in charge, or they’d get em!

      • You’re about to get Jericho’d

        I just don’t believe that to be true Dave.

        • SC Dave

          Not through desire, but incompetence.

          • You’re about to get Jericho’d

            despite my disgust with how she got her experience and opportunities she has Senate experience, foreign policy experience, wartime experience and looks to be close enough to the middle for me.
            She’s seen the threat matrix, knows what’s going on with our allies and enemies and is keenly aware of what the fuck will happen if we all let our guard down.
            Unfortunately, given the options between mom’s overcooked pot roast and her underseasoned broiled orange roughy rolled in spinach we must go with the lesser of two evils….

          • MB30SD

            agreed

          • Scharfinator

            She probably deleted the nuke codes anyway….

        • Johnnywad

          There is likely a collection of bad ass dudes there, on the ground and overhead, that will determine the outcome of that little encounter, regardless of which dipshit sits in the Oval Office

  • willbest
    • Big Mike

      I like naked women.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    Hey, it isn’t even 5pm yet but Iowa and Colorado have walked out of the convention.

    SC Dave: Is this how the GOP thing is supposed to go?

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      Reince Priebus just quit. This is fun.

      • CanadaBear

        Are you going to actually make me watch this?

        • You’re about to get Jericho’d

          our country is one big reality show from the E! Entertainment Television.

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            read the rolling chat window here:

            Man that shit show is ‘Murica right there.

          • CanadaBear

            SHEESH! At least everyone in the chat window was a model of decorum.

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            My favorite comment was the guy who said he thought he saw John McCain on the floor playing Pokemon Go.

          • CanadaBear

            They were flying by so fast that I could only read about every 5th one. It seemed like all of them contained the word fuck. I think my fave was if you’re against Trump you’re against America. I cleaned up the spelling.

          • SC Dave

            Why is that so funny, when the other side says if you’re for Trump, you are a racist, misogynist hater?

          • Scharfinator

            They should both be funny to you Dave

          • SC Dave

            Actually, neither is funny.

            But I think I’ll practice Haydn instead of caring.

        • Swing Tackle of Destiny
          • SC Dave

            Oh damn… the blog has sunk all the way to the Kos.

          • willbest

            I love Kos. Its where I go when Sac is on vacation to get my fix.

          • Cormonster

            My favorites for entertainment are Raw Story, ThinkProgress, and Occupy Democrats.

        • SC Dave

          We don’t make you do anything, Canada. That’s up to the Canadian government

      • willbest

        I don’t see that in any news source I frequent or on my twitter feed.

        • Swing Tackle of Destiny

          He walked out during the roll call vote call. I will retract that he quit outright.

          He abandoned the convention, how about that?

          • willbest

            Yeah the ProHillary wing of the GOP establishment is hellbent on turning the RNC into a campaign ad for the democrats this year. I am not entirely sure that is to Trump’s determent. The Democrats have successfully marketed the GOP as the devil, setting Trump up as the enemy of the party is probably a plus with the 10% or so of votes that are actually up for grabs.

          • Sactowns#1

            I think you mean the right wing religious zealots and the remaining Republicans who put country before party.

          • willbest

            Like I said Sac, separation. Note I don’t mean segregation, like you assume. I do not want to assert my authority over people who don’t believe what I do.

          • SC Dave

            Sometimes you piss me off. At least there are a few Republicans that put country before party. The Democrats couldn’t muster a pair.

          • Sactowns#1

            Yeah that Bernie Sanders, always putting himself and or the party before the country. That guys the worst!

          • willbest

            He endorsed the Wall Street candidate when he was offered a sit down with Jill Stein.

          • SC Dave

            He certainly is.

          • SC Dave

            This. So vote for Gary Johnson.

          • SC Dave

            Poltroon

      • willbest

        Somebody is reporting that delegates at the convention are being replaced with pro-Trump alternative delegates. It is amusing that when Cruz was doing this it was good inside baseball and demonstrated how woefully incompetent Trump’s ground game was. Now that he is doing it though its a threat to democracy itself.

        • Swing Tackle of Destiny

          Paul Manafort is getting paid what he is getting paid for a reason.

        • SC Dave

          The narrative will be to paint Trump as the anti- Christ. Just wait for it

      • Cormonster

        I went to Jr. High and High School with Reince. Had him in a Social Studies class in HS. He was a happier person back then, but still a dweeb. He was Alex P Keaton to a tee. He mostly dressed business casual at school, but occasionally he would wear a full suit, and he always had his briefcase with him. He was already a very vocal Republican by 10th grade and I think he was already active in the party. I guess he reached his career goal.

    • SC Dave

      Why would I know? I’ve voted Libertarian almost constantly since 1982 or so.

      But, we’re I to register an opinion on your question, I would say ‘ sabotaged by the statists’.

      Trump is the worst nightmare of the puppetmasters. If he wins, they will kill him the instant he refuses to follow instructions.

      • You’re about to get Jericho’d

        He wouldn’t even know when the instruction were good enough to follow…and that is the problem. He’s such a fucking penis I can’t even stand it.

        • SC Dave

          I agree. But he is still preferable to Clinton. That’s how bad it’s become

          Vote Libertarian… for God’s fucking sake, if you’ve never considered third party before (although the last election SHOULD have been enough), do so now.

          • Big Mike

            List why Clinton is awful.

        • willbest

          He turned $100 million into a couple billion by wheeling and dealing. If he were bad at taking advice, he wouldn’t have been able to do that. That he is an arrogant fuck however, is an entirely different matter.

      • Cormonster

        I’ve been voting Libertarian since 96 or abstaining at the federal level, minus Ron Johnson for Senate in 2010.

        • Big Mike

          I understand this perspective. A long time ago I voted for Gary Anderson (I think). I’m not very political, but Trump is just wrong. I had zero respect for him before he ran for office. He’s 10x worse than I thought. The more I know about him, the repulsed I am.

    • SC Dave

      Let em walk. They are tools of the puppetmasters.

  • willbest

    Man went on an axe rampage on a German train injuring 15-20 people before he was killed. Unconfirmed reports that he was a “17” year old Afghan male.

    • SC Dave

      The pot is simmering. Boiling time is about 2019.

      Though concealed carry could have had him dead before he got 5.

      • Sactowns#1

        BE AFRAID!!!

        • willbest

          In truth I don’t know why I am all hell bent at keeping sharia law loving 3rd worlders out of my country. I too am a racist, homophobic, misogynist. We could oppress women and gays together! Oh right, I like bacon and alcohol.

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny
          • Big Mike

            In the end this is an economic issue. If you filter all the shit of one particular religion into a dark place, led by a handful of truly sinister people with a dark ages set of beliefs, its almost inevitable.

        • SC Dave

          Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m not.

      • Big Mike

        On a train? Concealed carry would have been a disaster. BTW, I have a permit.. I’m not a gun hater.

        • Johnnywad

          A bigger disaster than 15-20 people with an axe? I disagree Mike.

          • Big Mike

            I wasn’t paying attention. Who handed out axes? I just pictured people on both sides of thing shooting each other in the face.

  • MB30SD

  • Doc Nitty

    Thanks for the memories, Peanut! You’re an all-time Chicago Bear! Happy Trails.

  • willbest

    In Bears news… Tillman is finally hanging up his cleats.

    He posted this

    • Doc Nitty

      Classic. Peanut rules!

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    day yippee ki-yay MFers’ Spent last couple days in Portland. They have the most interesting herb to smoke that is legal here. I must say it is amazing, really not sure why it is not legal everywhere, someone should really look into that. Going boating tomorrow on the Willamette river. Peace Out Biatches!!

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