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Forte’s Exit Leaves Hole at Running Back

| February 18th, 2016

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There is no question Matt Forte lost a step and little disagreement about the Bears decision to let him go. But the reality of the situation is that by exiling Forte the club has created a big hole at the running back position. Forte, even after injury and the emergence of Jeremy Langford, was getting nearly 60 percent of the carries and was the team’s best back by every conceivable measurement.

Langford is most known for his speed and explosiveness but Forte led him in runs of fifteen yards or more by the staggering total of 10-3. Ka’Deem Carey is known for running hard and breaking tackles but — according to Pro Football Focus — Forte averaged more yards after contact (2.24-2.05) and broke a tackle once every 9 touches. Carey did once every 9.2 touches.

Even if you were to combine Langford and Carey into one back, they weren’t as good as Forte. Langford averaged 1.76 yards after contact and broke a tackle once every 17 touches and Carey has never had a run longer than 15 yards. (He’s had runs longer than 10 yards just twice.) Forte also averaged about a half-yard more per carry overall than the other two combined.

Carey is what he is and the Bears seem to know that. He might not have made the team if Senorise Perry wasn’t injured late in the preseason. Carey didn’t play 10 percent of the snaps in any game both Forte and Langford were healthy. He doesn’t provide anything in the passing game as either a blocker or receiver and there just aren’t many 210-pound power backs in the league.

Langford could certainly get stronger, which would help him break more tackles, but I’m not sure he can develop the kind of vision elite backs have. Running back is considered a plug and play position and many believe running backs are what they are when they enter the league with improvements coming in areas such as pass protection and receiving.

Langford’s potential is obvious and he proved he could be productive as a starter, although not necessarily as a runner. In his three starts, he didn’t reach 75 yards or have over four yards per carry. According to PFF, Langford averaged fewer yards per carry against base defenses than any other back in the league. One year in, Langford just seems more like a guy who can make plays when they’re there versus being a guy who makes plays for himself. Which is fine with a great supporting cast, but not ideal.

He did make big plays as a receiver.

If Langford can handle 60 percent of the team’s carries next year, they still need someone else to take the other 40 percent. Fox has liked to pair speed backs with power backs (Deshaun Foster/Stephen Davis, DeAngelo Williams/Jonathan Stewart, Ronnie Hillman/Montee Ball). The Bears could target Alabama’s Derrick Henry early or Indiana’s Jordan Howard in the middle rounds to either complement Langford or have Langford complement them. The thought that they can just find one as a UDFA is mostly a myth. 16 of the top 20 rushers in the league last year were drafted within the first four rounds.

It’s hard to doubt the Bears for moving on from Forte. His burst is gone and the mileage was piling up. There is no reason to think he would be as productive going forward as he was even last year. But they have to replace the production they got from him. The guys they already have might be able to help, but the Bears need to continue to add talent to the position. They wouldn’t regret having more than one great running back.

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  • willbest

    You would need to adjust your stats for the type of runs they were doing. The explosive running thing is a bit interesting though since Forte isn’t generally known for those runs. I think it was 9 or 10 weeks in 2014 before he finally popped off a 20+ harder.

    And then the obvious question being would he still have it next year?

    • SC Dave

      Why wouldn’t he?

      • MB30SD

        He old

      • willbest

        Lynch was fine until he wasn’t.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Because statistically speaking, he should. Doesn’t mean he would, but there are lots of guys getting paid way more than me to sabremetric the shit out of rosters who think running backs drop off precipitously at 30.

  • Johnnywad

    RB will likely be one of the more contested positions in camp. Langford is your #1 for now. But Fox has already shown he does not play favorites. I suspect another 4th or 5th round pick, plus Carey and Co. to compete for the #2 and #3/ST/PS guy spot and maybe surprise us.

    I liked what we saw from Langford. Of course he’s not as good as Forte has been. He may never be. But I am willing to bet he’s a better runner in 2016 than Forte is. Pass catcher? I didn’t see anything to suggest he’s ever going to be that guy. But Im OK with that. Let the WR’s and TE’s do that.

    • Langford dropped some, but then again, so did Forte. Forte also seemed to regress as a blocker, and naturally, that’s something most rookie HBs must learn.

      Langford has all the tools. No reason he can’t excel, esp in a rotation.

      We were a bit spoiled with Forte’s relative durability, esp considering how many touches he’s had since college. I’m certain it was due to a few reasons.

      1. He was never a banger thus saving his body.
      2. He’s a rather big back, 6ft 200lbs
      3. Insane dedication including no soda and sleeping in a hypoberic chamber and god knows what else.

      I’m not sure any HB going forward will have that combo, but hopefully Langford learned some from Forte oz to freedom.

      • Johnnywad

        I agree. I think it’s unfair to expect Langford to be Forte. Talent aside, they’re just different players. I do think he has a chance to be a better pure runner than 22. We’ll see if he becomes a receiving threat. Forte was in a class of his own there. I’m okay with a running back being a running back, and letting the receiving corp catch the ball.

        • Langford does actually posses soft hands. Check out the highlight above/below vs chargers how he lays out for the catch. Nice route runner, and I noted since his college tape that he sets up the screen very well. In fact, I think that was his first NFL play. That’s an underrated part of a HBs game. Requires some savvy.

          Langford looks rather polished for being that young. If he looked completely lost, I think Forte would still be a Bear, but the tape reveals and ascending stud.

          Heck, Langford had a better year than Gordon, IMO.

          Bears seem to finally have some good new blood. Langford, Gold., Amos, and let’s not forget, White, and some other prime building blocks like Alshon, Long and Mcphee.

          This team should be a force with two more solid offseasons.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            I agree. On a lot of his drops, he appeared to be looking upfield before he made the catch, something I think can be coached out of him or solved with more reps.

          • Jokey

            I hope you’re right but my eyes saw more important drops than important catches. And while I’m ok with letting the receivers catch the balls, Forte was the relief valve and caught different balls. Now those will go to Langford and he’s not as good. But it was his first year, so he’s not done improving, hopefully.

          • Johnnywad

            Bears boner rises again. I’m not going to wish away summer, but I can’t wait for next season.

          • MB30SD

            I’m all in on langy

      • CanadaBear

        I agree with ya but a small quibble. Matt is 6’2″ and at least 220.

  • Look at how explosive he is, swift as a gazelle, angry as a bull, hands of a catcher…you shall be missed…oh wait, it’s Langford highlights…

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Brooks-on-Bears-draft-Combine-focus/4df844da-5986-4c46-94f3-f64ef73f3ba5

    • Johnnywad

      Outside of the catch, that’s not a very impressive ” highlight ” vid. No big hits, no juking dudes out of their shorts. Just a bunch of wide open runs. Maybe that’s his highlight. He’s open because of his speed.

      • He didn’t really get a lot of touches at the start. And even when Forte went down, they still mixed in a heavy dose of Carey, Jizz, etc.

      • MB30SD

        Have to disagree for once, I thought he totally looked the part of a #1.

        He’s a stud. Him, jacksqueezy, Carey in rotation will be powerful. Then add urine on every single fucking short yardage and redzone play, and boom!

        • Johnnywad

          Oh I think he’s a #1. I just thought the video was a bit lacking.

          I have high hopes for him. I liked what I saw. I also prefer my running backs to look like running backs on the field and not hybrid receivers. Matt’s yardage totals are off the charts. The stats speak for themselves. I have always felt though, that the O is better served by a pure runner and not a guy catching 60-70 balls a year. I’ll take a wrecking ball at RB and let the tight ends make those RB catches.

          • MB30SD

            Yeah, I think if we had a pure badass rb and actual 1st string WRs and 2 good tes, we’d come out on top. Nothing against matty cause he was a great back, but time to kick this thing into high gear baby. I kinda feel like having matty as a safety valve might have actually hamstrung the O and cutty a little.

            Going to be interesting to see if we field a sold 75-100 yard back(s) every game along with 2 very good #1 WRs and two good TEs what the o will look like, cause that’s what it’s shaping up to look like. I hope kwhite turns out to be a total stud and alshon can stay healthy… we have that along with a healthy Eddie royal and Zach miller types and we’ll be seriously dangerooos

          • MB30SD

            And yeah, he should have used the guy who did my high school highlight tape. Siiiiiiick!

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            So….is your highlight tape on youtube? You holding out on us, maing?

          • DaMurph

            We need to put the pressure on so he lets us see them!

          • MB30SD

            I wish… vhs baby

          • DaMurph

            Yeah come on, let loose those high school highlight reels! Ha…..I bet you could sell them on here!

          • MB30SD

            Hahaha, I only gave two sadly, both vhs. One game has about 4 big sticks. Big OHHHHHHHHHHs from the crowd.

            Ahhhh glory days murph, glory days.

          • SC Dave

            I’d take Marshall Faulk over anyone in the NFL today. RB, WR, or TE.

          • Johnnywad

            I’d rather have an average RB and Gronk, than Marshall Faulk and and average TE.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    interesting stat both Langford and Fortey had 7 TDs(rushing and receiving), yet Langford had 1/3 less touches.

    • MB30SD

      smells like young bloooood

  • AlbertInTucson

    “No,thank you.” To “Targeting Derek Henry Early’.

  • BearDown100393

    2008-2015, 120 games played, 120 games started. 8 games missed. Avg’d 1 game not played per season. Durability. Can’t teach it. Good luck to the successors.

    • BerwynBomber

      Availability plays a huge part in assessing the worth of a professional athlete. It is a quality often assumed until it goes missing. Matt Forte was, indeed, often available come game day.

    • SC Dave

      One fumble per 126 touches. Crazy.

  • BillW

    Great column, Andrew. Well researched and written. Makes you realize how tough it is to build a winner.

  • That Guy

    With the release of Bushrod, the line looks to feature some configuration of Long, Leno, Slauson, Grasu and a player to be named later (maybe Montgomerry). Beyond that, there are a ton of question marks. Grasu could end up not working out and Slauson could become the starting center. Leno and Long could play tackle in either order, or Long could move back to guard. There’s talent there, but also a lot of uncertainty. There’s also no depth whatsoever. We have five players total to carry over, and two of them played center worse than Slauson this year.

    With that in mind, here are a few options to get some more competition in.

    Round 2-3: Vadak Alexander, LSU; Jason Spriggs, Indiana; Germain Idefi, Texas A&M
    Round 4-6: Shon Coleman, Auburn; Kyle Murphy, Stanford; Fahn Cooper, Ole Miss

    Six guys who all play tackle, but project to guard in the NFL. Find a guy with physical skills and decent mechanics that falls to you in the right round for his level. Get another rookie in the mix.

    FA: Mike Harris (Vikings); Brandon Brooks (Texans); Bobby Massie (Arizona).

    Other than Harris, I don’t see a lot of options in free agency unless we spend big (which I doubt will happen). The team will be better off drafting than signing free agents.

    The Bears could also consider bringing Patrick Omameh or Jordan Mills back, but I think fresh faces is the plan right now.

  • That Guy

    I was an advocate of keeping Forte and giving him a three year deal designed to make it easy to cut him after two. I don’t agree with the decision to cut him loose, but I understand it and I respect Pace for having a plan and not being shy about it.

    With all of that said, I am somewhat concerned about the amount of work the Bears will need to get done this off-season. Forte and Bushrod leaving creates a leadership deficit for the offense that basically Long, Slauson and Cutler are the only guys to fill (maybe Jeffery and Royal but I doubt it). Pace is going to have bring in a veteran presence on the offense to help fill that void as well as replacing O-linemen, running back and possibly TE if either Marty or Miller leaves.

    Meanwhile a lot of us were expecting a totally defense focused draft to try to replace at least a half a dozen starters. But now we may need to devote as many as three draft picks to just replace departing offensive players.

    The team certainly has the cap space to bring in some talent, but why not use some of that on a proven guy like Forte for at least one more year? Who else is going to come in with as much guaranteed production for the money?

    My big concern is that Pace may have taken a bad habit the Saints had with him. The Saints always beefed up their offense, even when they were sucking on D and seemed stacked for skill players. If Pace is planning to have an offense focused draft and just fill in defense spots with value vets… that could prevent the team from really turning the corner.

    I’m not certain it will go down that way, but it is a real concern.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      leadership deficit?? who stated Forte or Bushrod were in leadership roles? In all the years they have been here I don’t recall once that they were referred to as Leaders. Also why would they have to spend draft picks on the offense? There are plenty of TE out there in FA that could step in same goes with OLine. As far as RB from all accounts I read Perry impressed the coaching staff before he got injured and they could always resign J. Rodgers or any number of other middle of the road RB for depth.

      The problem I see is that too many fans believe that certain players are irreplaceable, guess what they are not. Also after years of ineptitude from the GM, fans don’t believe that the front office could possibly have a plan for a rebuild. Last year’s draft i think showed us that there is a plan for the rebuild, plus we finally have a competent coaching staff from all accounts works well with the GM to figure out what is needed. Are they going to make mistakes? Absolutely, but tell me which front office doesn’t.

      As far as Pace goes with the concern of bad habits from the Saints you only have to look as far as the coach. As good as Sean Payton is, he is basically the offensive version of Lovie Smith, i believe that explains the drafts the Saints have.

      • MB30SD

        You complete me

      • That Guy

        Brad Biggs actually specifically noted the leadership deficit. Its a fact – Emery and Pace have both cleaned house, so there just aren’t a lot of long time members on the roster. Long will be expected to step into that role (kinda like an Olin Kruetz), Cutler will need to be the leader, and that’s really it. Pace/Fox will need to get some more voices in the locker room.

    • BearDown100393

      Who is/are the leaders of this team? Kyle Long?

      • That Guy

        Long is becoming a leader, maybe Slauson is too (Long likes him). Cutler is a leader despite what the press say. On defense you’ve got McPhee, maybe Porter/Houston/Young (but I doubt it). On specials you’ve got Gould.

        There really aren’t a lot of senior statesmen on the roster. Its fine to get young, but it becomes a priority for the admin to have players around that can bring the right focus and attitude to the locker room.

        • And if Rolle is still on the team, I imagine him.

          I’m not too worried about “leadership”.

          Forte from most accounts was a “quiet” leader.

          There’s plenty of those. Hopefully, Long steps up and becomes the vocal leader we all hope, but sometimes I think he’s more of a gronk than an olin.

          • That Guy

            I’ll be surprised if Rolle makes the roster. But again, we’ve got a lot of holes to fill so who knows. Long is a solid leader – he’s got the pedigree and he knows exactly how to show respect to his teammates.

            Look we won six games. Turnover is almost always a good thing when you’ve got a six win team. But I don’t think our offense was the reason we only won six games. I don’t want to see Pace use too many resources on the offense when we need all the help we can get on D.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            I think you are too worried about leadership. Leadership starts at the top with the coach and trickles down. We no longer have the limp noodle Tresticle and his merry band of conniving jackasses he called a coaching staff. Fox and his staff set the tone and everything else will fall in place

          • CanadaBear

            “We no longer have the limp noodle Tresticle and his merry band of conniving jackasses he called a coaching staff.” Love this description! One of the leadership problems on the team is lack of really good to great players. You have to fall into that category to be a leader. If you’re just a guy on the team, it doesn’t carry much water.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            This was reported back in November from the sounds of it there is not a leadership issue and the coaching staff has the structure in place to allow for the growth of leaders and that coaches and players are on the same page of what is expected of them.

            http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/7/71/1117263/helping-hands-new-leadership-council-benefits-bears-john-fox

      • Johnnywad

        Cutler appears to be figuring that piece of it out.

        • BearDown100393

          Agreed. IMO #6 steps up even more this season. A healthy wide receiving corps, eager young RBs and a decent O-line along with continuity at the OC position with John Fox as HC? Looks good.

    • BerwynBomber

      Your stated O “needs” seem more wishful thinking than absolute priorities. The O-line, via league comparison, graded out better than any other position on our team in ’15, and yes, that would include our team MVP Cutler. RB doesn’t seem barren either. Yes, no RB will duplicate Forte’s career production, but we should be competent with an RB by committee approach. TE remains to be seen in terms of what the Bears do with Miller and Uni.
      Btw, it doesn’t mean that Pace won’t address all three positions in the draft or free agency but only that will take a backseat to D concerns.
      In terms of the Saints, it was less about focusing all their bucks on the O and more about some crappy deals/decisions the team made. As an example, the Malcom Jenkins/Jarius Byrd was a classic brain-dead move. Plus, Sean Payton, for whatever reason, can’t seem to build a decent D.

      • That Guy

        We don’t have enough offensive linemen on the roster right now to go into a game, let alone camp. Its not wishful thinking, its a fact. We will have to add players.

        The same is true at running back, we need at least three capable backs on the roster.

        The same is true at tight end if Mills or Bennett doesn’t return.

        We might not commit the same cap money to the positions, but we’re going to have to fill the roster spots somehow.

        • BerwynBomber

          Because we lost Bushrod? And of course we will have to add players, mainly a replacement for Ducasse, but building the perfect O-line is something that RARELY happens in the NFL. If our O-line plays next year like it did this past year then we will be fine.

          Yeah, we will pick up a third back but I don’t know if we need a #1 or a #2. Langford and Carey may already be penciled into those slots. But I suspect Pace picks someone up in FA or the draft.

          And yeah, we will have to wait and see about Miller and Bennett. If we lose both TE becomes a position of need. If we lose one, it moves down the list.

          • That Guy

            So we go from Forte to a scrub to save cap room. We go from Bushrod to a scrub to save cap room. We go from Mills/Bennett to a scrub to save cap room.

            The team has cap space to do better than scrubs at these positions. I’m looking out at FA and other than TE, I don’t see how the team expects to upgrade at any of the three positions without spending more money rather than less. Which means either Pace plans to build through the draft or we are downgrading those spots.

            I’m simply stating that Pace is leaving a lot of holes to fill in one year. We’ll see if he gets it done.

          • DaCoaches Mustache

            Bushrod (Muff Pole) was a scrub last year, and I would hardly call Langford a scrub.

          • BerwynBomber

            I don’t know if I would call Leno or Langford scrubs. They may turn out to be, but both acquitted themselves decently last year given their inexperience and pedigree.

          • CanadaBear

            I kinda agree with both of ya. Pace is creating holes in the roster but I’m pretty certain these guys have a plan and run a lot cost analysis, etc about all of their moves. You know they will fill out the bottom of the roster with rookies, UFA’s, vets on min deals, it’s going to be interesting to see how they build the roster with all the cash. The one area I worry about concerns players salaries. Are they going to rise right along with the salcap? Very interesting off season!

  • MB30SD
    • The GP

      i like the cart

  • Irish Sweetness

    This is like Groundhog Day .

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Ned? Ned Ryerson?!”

      • Sactowns#1

        “Bing!”

  • The GP

    Did the Broncos have a name RB? Does Jonathan Stewart of the Panthers remind you of Barry Sanders? How about the Pats, what do they think of big name RBs? How has AP helped the Vikes in the playoffs?

    RB is a component of the attack, it needs to be so capable and not any more capable than that.

    • MB30SD

      This

    • That Guy

      This seems to be a fact of life these days. A potent rushing game just doesn’t translate to as many wins as it used to.

      • willbest

        Potent RBs are good when you have a read option QB, or you have somebody like Dez which precludes in the box.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    How is the 10-3 stat of runs 15 yards or longer “staggering”?
    Langford led the team in rushing TDs. Put two and two together about their usage, and you might come to a different conclusion.
    Was Forte the better back last year? Yes.
    He was a great player for us for a very long stretch and it’s hard to see him go.
    Does that make me pee my pants about who’s starting at RB next year?
    No.

    • MB30SD

      Ed Zachary my brother. Langford is a stud. Let’s see what he does as the #1 this year.

      That and jockqueasy and Carey are both pretty decent as well. 1-2-3 punch baby!

      And you know what… I’m so over all the crying and bitchin aboit Forte when we have what look to be 3 better than aveeage eeplacements, when juuust on the exact other side of the ball we’ve been fielding Shae fucking mcclelin in place of Brian Urlacher and people actually fucking not only didn’t revolt in disbelief (and trust me it was revolting), but actually supported that shit weasel for years!!?!

      I am MB’s disgusted amazement

      • The GP
        • MB30SD

          What do you mean… that IS a picture of me at the beach

      • CanadaBear

        I’m not certain the Bears are OK at RB but I totally understood the decision to move on. The D was so horrid due to lack of talent last year it was unreal. Almost every team the Bears played had at least 2-3 guys that were head a shoulders over any player on the Bears D. Some games it was more like 7-8 guys. It was shocking to see how fast some D’s were compared to the Bears. Irish hates on Fangio for not being aggressive. I loved him because he kept the Beloved in a lot of games with a really shitty roster on D

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Wait a second – how does one pair the statement of having 40% (really, more like 30% since the 3rd stringer and others cut into the total) of the carries go to someone else with a comment about the top 20 rushers in the league coming out of the first four rounds?
    What the f-ck does one have to do with the other?
    AD – you’re making some really specious arguments here.

    • MB30SD

      Love that word. 500 blog points (350 for the word, and 150 for coming back to us… or the other way around)

      Come on y’all… why you actin’ spicious?!

      http://youtu.be/0PMbSYcl4kA

  • BerwynBomber

    A breakdown of the five moves each team in the NFCN should make in the off-season:

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14786309/five-moves-bears-lions-packers-vikings-make-offseason-nfl

  • Sactowns#1

    Looks like Jarred Allen is packing up his awareness and saddle and riding off into the sunset.

    • That Guy

      That Superbowl is as close as he’s likely to get next season. Not a bad way to call it a career.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    I don’t buy a lot of Apple gear, but I may start.

    • willbest

      They can’t comply with the order. Its not like they are the building super that can’t be bothered to climb some stairs to unlock the door. There are no keys. The judge is ordering them to pull their security team off their current projects and go construct a key. This violates 5th amendment, 13th amendment, and at least a dozen SC opinions limiting the subpoena power.

      If congress did its job with respects to the judiciary this guy would be up on impeachment right now.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse
        • Scharfinator

          What a crock of shit.

          • The GP

            if they come for Apple’s encryption, pretty soon they come for everyone’s and outlaw it outright.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            If I understand the court order and situation correctly, they are asking Apple to build firmware that cripples the wrappers (not allowing input of passcodes through a port, not allowing more than 10 attempts before bricking the phone, etc) that prevent the FBI from running a brute force attack on the passcode, not specifically to break the encryption scheme. Given all that, I have no idea how much time it would still take the FBI (with NSA hardware I assume) to guess the passcode, but it makes it possible.
            It’s still idiotic, because once it exists, it will get into the wild. It always does.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            And g-d bless America that it doesn’t sound like any of the congresspeople involved have any idea what either party in the case is doing.

          • willbest

            The size of the federal government being what it is, virtually guarantees that nobody “in charge” is competent.

          • MB30SD

            So this

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Only 4 members of Congress hold a comp-sci degree.
            By comparison, 28 members of Congress don’t have a post-secondary degree at all.

          • MB30SD

            LCD

          • Jokey

            The gov also asked Apple for a cost estimate on those mods. It’ll be interesting to hear the answer. My guess is that those changes are pretty simple to make, but when you ask someone for an estimate for something they don’t want to do, often you get an inflated answer.

          • SC Dave

            $1T

          • The GP

            You are correct.

            ios 9 upgraded to 6 digit pins. It also supports gestures and fingerprint to unlock. The Cali Jihadist asswipe probably had a 6 digit PIN. That would take the FBI 10 seconds to crack, if they can brute force.

            But ios will erase the filesystem after 10 failures in a row. That doesn’t work for anybody. So they want a version of the code that they can run brute force against.

            As an analogy, it’s no different than when the NSA told RSA to put a backdoor into the encryption ciphers they used. Because RSA and Ron Rivest are puppets of the NSA, they did as they were told until Snowden outed them.

            Not everyone wants to be the NSA’s bitch. Tim Cook is saying the code that allowed this is bad. It’s ironic, because ios8 allowed brute force no problems. So he’s effectively saying he won’t revert to the last version of his own code.

            He will be made to. Big Brother is upon us. It’s no different than when they sued Phil Zimmerman into bankruptcy for creating PGP and are thinking of ways to imprison Zimmerman again for creating Silent Circle.

          • That Guy

            I disagree here. Apple/Google/Microsoft/Facebook are the four biggest players in the data mining space. They are all big enough to sustain a protracted legal battle with the government on this. Other companies (AT&T, Samsung, Motorola, etc.) are also pretty hefty.

            The most expensive litigation runs around $1MM a month. Fortune 500 companies are always litigating something, although not at that level. They have the budget to defend this as long as they have to. And there are a lot of advocacy groups out there that will give them free marketing for their efforts.

            It takes a lot of nerve from Cook and co. to step up to the plate on this one, but Apple has the horses to make the legal side a fair fight.

            Honestly, the US government isn’t known for its massive legal budget. High profile defendants usually outspend the government on this kind of thing. I think Apple might actually have the edge in the money race.

          • The GP

            OK, let’s hope you are right.

          • willbest

            Antitrust lawsuits are the pinnacle of Corporate litigation. That is when the corporation is essentially fighting for their life, they can take up to 20 years to play out. Given the debt bomb in SSA set to go off around 2028, if Apple wanted to it could run out the government.

          • The GP

            Esp. with the billions it has offshored in Ireland.

          • willbest

            If I recall (and I haven’t followed in some time). That Irish company invested those billions into an American hedge fund to invest in the US

          • Irish Sweetness

            Isn’t that the HQ ? I think America is now the offshore.

          • SC Dave

            And only the criminals will have it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Homeland security style. No encryption for your own safety. This is all part of the plan.

          • Scharfinator

            That is the general fear, I believe.

      • Irish Sweetness

        TBH I would have thought there was already a backdoor.

  • Doc Nitty

    More than one great running back? I’ll start with one. Langford hasn’t proven anything yet. I thought Jeff was a little quick to annoint him (as he did on one of your radio broadcasts) as someone who is going to be a star. I want to believe it, but I’ve seen no real evidence yet.

    I hope I’m wrong, but I think getting rid of Forte was a mistake.

    • Don’t know if Langford is great yet. Can’t even really say that about Gurley.

      But he was arguably the best rookie on the Bears last season.

      Amos and Goldman are in that mix.

      At
      some point, a team must gamble on younger unproven players they drafted,
      and this was the time. If it was only Carey behind Forte, then letting
      him walk would’ve been a major mistake.

      Instead, we can use that $5M+ into D.

      Plus,
      many fans are thinking we’re competing for a SB this season, while POX
      is likely looking at next year, and 600 more touches Forte may not be
      as effective.

      • AlbertInTucson

        +1 on that last line.

      • MB30SD

        Boom

      • Irish Sweetness

        Gurley is very very very good. Greatness to be seen, but he’s top drawer surely.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Getting rid of Matt just means we have to draft another one. Can’t go into a season with that roster of RBs.

  • willbest

    The curious thing about this whole Apple thing is that it is public.

    1) Either it is easier for the government to force Apple to do something than it is to crack the phone themselves; or
    2) They think there is enough PR (never let a crisis go to waste) behind the to get all of Silicon Valley under there boot.

    • That Guy

      Apple is making it public because they expect the public opinion to be solidly on their side in this fight. And if its not, they’re much better turning over the data with their customers knowing about it than not.

      Remember, these are lawyers fighting right now. The government is certainly trying to crack the phone themselves, but the lawyers are trying another option in court.

      I don’t like to put my political views in the open too often. But I find this whole thing disgusting. Americans need to care more about their privacy while they still have some of it left.

      • BearDown100393

        Privacy is no longer an expected virtue. Sad.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Big Brother: “We want to know WHEN you went to the john AND what you did in there.”

          • BearDown100393

            Along with one or two ply.

          • AlbertInTucson

            And how many sheets were used.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            If you spare a square, you’re a lefty. If you didn’t, you’re a righty. They surely would love to know that about you.

      • willbest

        Judge could have placed a gag order on Apple. None of this needed to be public.

        • Irish Sweetness

          The fact that they’e saying they won’t do it means they will do it. And probably already are. This all being a whitewash.

      • SC Dave

        Too late by about a decade.

        • MB30SD

          This, there’s some dude in langy jerking it to the pics of boobies and vajajays all the chicks send. Whatever. Over it.

  • The GP

    Peyton interviewed

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      His accuracy was better…steroid injections after the SB?

      • The GP

        seemed spot on to his playoff performance

  • The GP

    BR blows Jared from Schlubway, never mentions his total awareness of the game

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2617675-jared-allens-wild-career-epitomized-the-best-and-worst-of-nfl-stardom

  • The GP

    This video is most excellent…. most excellent indeed

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      That was…beautiful.

    • Doc Nitty

      Who knew Andy Reid coached for so many teams?

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse
  • AlbertInTucson

    “I don’t take draft stuff seriously…”

    Don’t worry.

    All too often, neither have the Bears.

  • Jack Lacan

    I knew it – I knew it – Trump is a godless Communist.
    He wants to drain us of “our precious bodily fluids”.

  • Trac

    Wow, evra one going bat droppings over the apple thing. I guess a might as well join the fray. He he

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HFvT_qEZJf8

  • Shady

    I’m sure some of you guys have seen this, but here’s a list of “top” free agents who are not likely to get the franchise tag:

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete-prisco/25487606/top-50-2016-nfl-free-agents-pass-rushers-vernon-jackson-top-list

    Top 6:

    1. Olivier Vernon, DE, Miami Dolphins: It’s not that common to see a 25-year-old pass rusher hit the market. Vernon got off to a slow start last year, but came on in the second half. He has 29 sacks in four seasons with 11.5 in 2013.

    2. Malik Jackson, DE, Denver Broncos: Pop in the Super Bowl tape and you will know why I have him so high. This is a dominant player who can play in any type of defense.

    3. Cordy Glenn, T, Buffalo Bills: He is a good player in pass protection at the all-important left tackle spot. That’s a need position where a lot of teams have issues.

    4. Kelechi Osemele, G, Baltimore Ravens: He has been a productive starter at guard, but has also started at tackle. He would be a nice upgrade for a lot of teams, but the price could be high.

    5. Trumaine Johnson, CB, Los Angeles Rams: Most will put his teammate and fellow corner Janoris Jenkins above him, but I think Johnson is the better player. He is tall and does a good job in man coverage.

    6. Bruce Irvin, DE-OLB, Seattle Seahawks: He played linebacker in Seattle’s scheme, but he could also put his hand on the ground. He would also be a perfect 3-4 rush guy.

    The FA period is a double edged sword for a GM. On one hand, you have the opportunity to add meaningful contributors to your team to help win a Championship, but you also have the opportunity to completely screw yourself over by hitching your wagon to a jackass. Aside from keeping #17 around, I think the key to a successful FA period will be acquiring some of these low to mid level FAs who have the right attitude to play for John Fox and Co.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Suh’s contract has Miami in a WORLD of CAP hurt. Jackson would top my wish list from this group.

      • Shady

        Eggzactly.

    • MB30SD

      Malik and Danny please

  • AlbertInTucson

    Neal Anderson sat most of his rookie season and then shared the load with Walter in his 2nd year before exploding into his own with 3 consecutive 1,000 yard and double digit (12,15 & 13) TD seasons.

    • Bender McLugh

      no coincidence that was the last three years of Jimbo Covert’s career ’88-’90

      • Bender McLugh

        aaaand scratch that point…………..Jimbo played a total of 4 games those years??? I didn’t realize that.

        • MB30SD

          So yes, yes is was a total coincidence? Haha

          • Bender McLugh

            that oline was still damn good those years, but I thought Jimbo had anchored it.

  • willbest

    In other news Deadpool crushed it at the box office to the tune of $132 million to be the most successful Feb opening movie of all time. So whoever was wishing it well last week, you got your wish.

    • BearDown100393

      Word is people who watched, enjoyed. Still many uniformed out there that this is not for the kids. Somehow the R rating escaped their attention.

      • MB30SD

        Shut up…. actually, I totally believe that. In general, people are morons.

        • BearDown100393

          Many have told me that they saw parents start bitching about the movie not being appropriate for kids and walked out. Because… ya know… they are morons.

          • MB30SD

            Idiots

          • Trac

            Raca?

          • Trac

            Jess, I posted a clip sorta about this yesterday. Surprisingly, it did not receive 1 up vote. Sigh.

          • MB30SD

            stop worrying about fucking up votes, you are not a 14 yr old girl, and this is not instagram… and you sure as hell aren’t in a bikini.

          • Trac

            #sarcasmisgenius

        • CanadaBear

          Every time this comes up I think of all the stupid people that took their kids to see Bad Santa!

          • MB30SD

            Smh

          • CanadaBear

            Good luck with IQ tests! Can’t say I disagree. I have the utmost respect for good parents. I have no respect for the shitty or absent parents.

          • BillW

            I like MB’s idea of a social IQ (not sure that even is a measurement, but should be) and while we can’t legislate/force people to take it, I would think offering it free to the masses might provide information that would help.

            There will be the same objections of culture bias that the regular IQ test brings, and the sample size will be biased (people destined to be bad parents probably wouldn’t take it) but that would be valuable info too.

            I can see AP taking it and then saying “it’s biased because it doesn’t see the benefit of beating a kid’s testicles until they bleed.”

          • willbest

            There is an inverse relationship between a woman’s IQ and the number of children she will have. That pretty much is all you need to know about civilization regressing to the mean.

          • MB30SD
      • Scharfinator

        I went in without too many expectations (my buddies love comics, I don’t really care). I was pleasantly surprised and thoroughly entertained with it. Don’t expect it to change your perspective on life, but it’s well done escapism.

        • MB30SD

          Mmmmmmm… escaaaaaapism!

  • MB30SD

    Wait a minute, I just realized something… where in thee fuck is yonny?!?!

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      Tradewinds bender?

      • MB30SD

        Highly possible

        • The GP, Chairman of the Bored

          He re-fi’d Kanye into an adjustable rate, and realized Kanye is dead broke.

          • MB30SD

            That guy has to be one of the world’s biggest buffoons. Smh

          • Trac

            Over the years, your up vote tally is most impressive my man. How do you do it? You should run for office.

          • The GP, Chairman of the Bored
          • Trac

            Hahaha. You’ve been in very good form lately.

          • The GP, Chairman of the Bored

            You’ll be on your own soon Trac, won’t need to take my bs

          • Trac

            Do tell?

          • MB30SD

            500 blog points

          • DaMurph

            I up vote multiple times! Haha!

          • Trac

            I know. Hero.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I made him use Kim as collateral. If he defaults i am allowed to film.

    • Trac

      I think he’s working overtime to help his “friend” pay off all his Super Bowl gambling debts. Hee hee.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      whaddup mang, Malik Jackson 5 tech, Lauranaitis at ILB and Bruton at S????? AMIRITE????

      • MB30SD

        BOOMS!

      • MB30SD

        don’t forget Danny T at ILB as well.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          my gut is telling me that Trevathan benefited a little too much from that D front but i love his athleticism and his aggressiveness and he’d be a huge upgrade.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Am I sensing a ‘Front office fucked up here’ piece Andrew?

    Throw this stat into your equation – Langford had 150% of the rushing TDs Matt had. Throw in Carey’s TDs and they had 200% of Matty’s rushing TDs, so your claim that they do not even make up one Matt Forte is wildly inaccurate. Move on, nothing to see here. Somebody else will get the 4.2 ypc next season. They can be picked up in the fourth round, or after the draft, and paid peanuts.

    Name a team that ever had a problem running the ball behind a good OL.

    • BearDown100393

      LOL, only if the kids cannot run the ball next season…. {everyone relax, they will get the job done, maybe not breaking records on Week#1 but overall for the season}

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      I thought Dallas had a good OL last year and their running game was kinda crappy

    • BillW

      I think he is simply saying that by getting rid of Forte (which he agrees was proper) the Bears created a need. Whether that need can be filled from within is yet to be seen. The answer is at best probably, more like maybe. And so – as you say – they may have to spend a 4th on an RB.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        sort of agree with your assessment, however as Irish was stating, you got to put the positive stats in post also. Andrew seems to come off as saying it’s a huge hole without Forte, but only picks and chooses negative points about the remaining RBs.

        • BillW

          I’m not a big Andrew fan but I did think he did some homework on this. Also, I don’t think he’s jumping to any conclusions of Langford/Carey/the other guy’s abilities or lack. I’m not even sure he’s saying it’s a huge hole – just that they will be without Forte’s production and that will need to come from somewhere (and not necessarily from the RB position if Kevin White succeeds.)

          • CanadaBear

            I think there will be some hiccups early. After that, who knows? I’m more than a little concerned that Langford’s avg/carry was about a half yd less than Matt’s. Time will tell.

          • BearDown100393

            Today’s post would be interesting to revisit at the end of next season. Being of course, after the SB…..

          • I think what is more important than a HB or maybe even Oline is a coherent vision of what a running game SHOULD look like.

            What I mean by that is like Shanny has his zone blocking, and SEA has their read-option, and Skins back in the day had power running…

            Naturally, Oline and HB have a lot to do with it, but when coaches know exactly what they want from Oline to HB, then it makes it a lot easier to plug in those 4rth rounders and not miss a beat.

      • Trac

        How do you feel about that?

        • BillW

          I have no problem with a 4th on RB. As many have stated, the days of a stud RB are over. But we’re not going to empty backfields either. Can’t ignore the offense completely just because the defense has more needs.

          • Doc Nitty

            This makes me sad because Stud running backs have always been what I love the most about football. That and stud middle linebackers. And now that we run a 3-4, we have neither.

          • MB30SD

            Langford is a stud. Wait and see

          • I agree. I thought I was going crazy.
            Dude looks explosive, like my dong.

          • MB30SD

            its got… “awareness”

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            You should probably get that looked at.

  • The GP, Chairman of the Bored
  • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

    concerns about Langford´s production? re-force OL starting with a new LT, Leno is for the meanwhile.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Man, I’m loving this ESPN 30 for 30. Y’all are crazy. If ya missed it ….

    • MB30SD

      Exactly. Get your tissues ready mate

  • The GP, Chairman of the Bored

    2 Likes? Daaaaamn.

    http://tinyurl.com/h5v9pzc

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      jealous?

      • The GP, Chairman of the Bored

        man did you miss the boat

  • Scharfinator

    Anyone high on Long, formerly of St. Louis? Does he have anything left in the tank?

    • willbest

      Other than the family connection?

      He is a 31 yo 4-3 DE Who has missed 14 games over the last 2 seasons, and has a combined 14 tackles, 1 FF and 4 sacks in that time. You want to plug him into a 3-4 to do what exactly?

      • Doc Nitty

        He might have good awareness.

        • BillW

          He is quoted as saying that he played like shit the last two years.

          • Doc Nitty

            So he’s aware he played like shit? Sounds like we can put a check mark next to the awareness column.

          • MB30SD

            Hahahahaha… sounds like the perfect player for lovie’s squad.

            …oh, wait.

          • MB30SD

            Hee hee

          • Irish Sweetness

            Long is done, Laurenitis isn’t.

      • Scharfinator

        I don’t know what I want him to do/he can do. That’s why I asked?

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      I am a little more intrigued with James Laurinaitis who was also cut by STL.

    • AlbertInTucson

      They cut James Laurenitis, too.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Heyyyyyyy …. 29, durable, solid dude.

        • MB30SD

          That kid is a stud… they didn’t cut him for shit’s and giggles though. Hmmmmm, wonder what the real poop is.

    • DaMurph

      I dont think he ever lived up to expectations coming out of college.

  • willbest

    Yes, this is entirely the right approach

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/feb/16/man-arrested-facebook-posts-syrian-refugees-scotland

    me thinks this is not going to end well.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Move away from the facebook. Put down the tweet and move away from the facebook.

  • BillW

    From a re-tweet by Jeff:
    “I refuse to read oral histories…”

    How do you read an ORAL history?

    • willbest

      I generally prefer to read transcripts myself.

    • Scharfinator

      VERY carefully.

    • BearDown100393

      Requires awareness

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      There are plenty of them out there. ‘Live from New York’ about SNL is a fairly popular recent one. There’s one about ESPN sitting on my table.
      They are essentially transcripts.

  • BearDown100393

    Rams cut Kyle ‘s bro.

    • willbest

      I hope it was before he put the down payment on the new place in LA

  • The GP, Chairman of the Bored
    • EnderWiggin

      I should’ve stopped. Poor SCDave.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        not poor SCDave, come on man, we need to be supportive of him, from the looks of it he could use all the support available.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Or her.

    • MB30SD

      Nice filling the gap… so to speak.

      And stop.making fun of my brother

    • MB30SD
      • Irish Sweetness

        I don’t like chicks that work carnivals.

        • MB30SD

          ? The tats?

          I’m dating one now. Sent shady a pic of her, she’s super sexy/hot. 6′ in heels. Yum

          • DaMurph

            6′ ? Hmmmmm. I like nice ink, find it very sexy. Start the ferris wheel carnival girl!

          • MB30SD

            Exactly, I’ll send you the pic

          • DaMurph

            And I thank you for that pic! A true beauty! The eyes, the LIPS, the ink……those tits! You are a true friend! Ha!

          • MB30SD

            Of course. I won’t send then naughty ones she sent me last night. I’m a gentleman sir!

          • DaMurph

            Thank you for sparing me! Ill text though if I need a “jump start” Ha!

          • CanadaBear

            And that makes her how much taller than you? NICE! My wife is 4-5″‘s taller than me flat footed.

          • MB30SD

            She’s 5’8″ barefoot… I’m 5’9″… so in heels 4-5 inches.

            I actually love taller girls for some reason. It’s hot. In the last 3 years I’ve dated two 6′ (barefoot) and one 6’1″… and they all loved big heels.

            I figure, who cares, I have a big cock. ; )

        • CanadaBear

          How open minded of you! I think she needs to pack on about 50 lbs before she can work for the carny. That or lose about 25 lbs from the meth addiction from working for the carny.

          • MB30SD

            Yeah, she’s a 9 from what I can see.

          • CanadaBear

            Way too hot for me! I loved Irish’s comments on GP’s post. He is one funny fucker!

    • Irish Sweetness

      1. Ruin that.
      2. Issues.
      3. Less is more.
      4. Rough as a welder’s bench.
      5. Wants a slap.
      6. My daughter didn’t approve.
      7. Smash her back doors in.
      8. Probably do something stupid like fall in love with that one.
      9. Wear her like a horse’s nosebag.
      10. (eyes dart left to right to left ) She’s the control, right?
      GP: She’s for Bill, Trac and C-Bear.
      Gotcha.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        i loved number 10. Old and sexy. No activity off limits…..

        • MB30SD

          And massive jugs

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            any chick that has those REVELS in it.

          • MB30SD

            And she knows how to use them

          • CanadaBear

            They all bitch about the unwanted attention, back pain, etc. but the women that put them on display are working ’em,. Esp if they deal with the public and work for tips. Don’t blame them a bit.

      • MB30SD

        Totally agree on #8. Amazing eyes

      • CanadaBear

        #10 is not for me Irish. She’s too old! I’m only 20 years older than her!

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    what’s up you broke muthafuckas? Who are we getting in free agency? what shiny new toys are we acquiring before manchristmas via the draft?
    Free agency targets in my opinion:
    5 Tech
    ILB
    S

    Draft:
    BPA as long as it’s a DL, ILB, S, OLB or CB

    • MB30SD

      da earsss were burning huh? lurker!

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        ha, i logged on last night and felt like i had to post. The offseason is tough and I had kind of tuned out after i dared to turn the dial to 670 the Score the other day to hear someone call Forte a “drive extender” and Langford and Carey “drive killers”….like he didn’t watch the kids convert short yardage after short yardage after goal line TD after goal line TD. I love Forte but it was like the guy didn’t even watch the fucking season. They all had great moments. This was the kind of guy that still had the Gayle Sayers chip on this shoulder and had to bring him up in the conversation for some reason.

        I called the station, swore at the call screener for not calling the idiot out and then hung up.

        • DaMurph

          Glad you were able to vent!

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            it was quick and violent…..and cathartic

        • MB30SD

          Meatballz

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            surf, bang, asada, repeat

        • CanadaBear

          It wasn’t me johnny, I promise. I gotta give Carey some credit for last year. I thought he was a typical Emery pick and last year he ran hard and showed up on ST’s so good on him.

    • Irish Sweetness

      1. At ILB, I’d like to see us draft (Ragland/Jack) AND sign one in FA (Trevathan).
      2. Draft the CB.
      3. Sign a Guard. (no projects on the line).
      4. Draft an OT.
      5. Draft a RB.
      6. Sign 2 x WR. (Travis Benjamin, Lockette)
      7. Maybe most important is the DE. He’s got to be drafted in the first, or second. Even then I’d like to see us in play for Wilkerson as well.

      Is this doable? I think we can afford Trevathan and Wilkerson … and that will make all the difference.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        i’m not a huge fan of drafting RB’s after Ced Ben didn’t work out. I honestly thought that guy was going to be the next Payton…..but Derrick Henry is a fucking monster. If he’s there in 3rd round i’d be hard pressed not to take him. He’ll be gone in the early 2nd round. He’s too huge and fast not to. Once they get the NFL nutrition and workouts into him he’ll become even more badass.

        Jack’s knee is still jacked. I’d rather go with Jaylon Smith if we’re going the injured superstar route. Myles Jack intrigues me though because even though i hate the thought of drafting a tweener this guy could play linebacker/safety hybrid. He’s that athletic…or at least WAS until that injury.

        • DaMurph

          Im with you on the Jaylon Smith thing, but I hate waiting a year for guys. Waiting for Kevin White was horrible. Irish keeps pegging Jack inside, not sure where that thought comes from. Well it is Irish so I do know where it comes from! Ha! Theres some good free agents can help us out. I wouldnt count Pac Man out, we get a punt returner/ corner who I think Fox can keep controlled. He did coach Steve Smith all those years and kept him half in check. Theres a lot of players can help us out. Is Long staying at tackle? Do they want him back inside? I cant wait to see their plan unfold!

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            ha, like football-xmas for men…..i don’t know what will happen but i can’t wait to find out. So much hope!
            I want fucking splashes in free agency. It pumps guys up when studs come in. Pep brought additional swagger to that D. Marshall brought additional confidence to that offense for a while. McPhee brough aggression….

            let’s bring in guys who can continue to change the culture

          • CanadaBear

            Is Jaylon Smith worth taking at 11? I’m really not a fan of taking injured guys early. The Bears history is littered with those guys and they rarely worked out. Either played really well for a couple of years and then injured/fucked or never came back all the way from the initial injury.

          • MB30SD

            100% sad thing is, I watched tape on smith and he was an elite athlete. I was kinda blown away at his athleticism and instincts. .. and to totally shred his knee in the 3rd quarter of a shitty bowl game was so brutal.

            That said, he is the kind of natural freak (a la AP and gurly) where he could come back and be a monster.

            I think we should take a shot, but def not at 11. If we get a super strong pick @ 11 and he falls to us in the 2nd I’d say do it.

            I wanted to take both the honey badger and burfict… they are both super studs.

          • CanadaBear

            Burfict makes me cringe a lot. HB is ballin’.

          • MB30SD

            He’s a moron and a thug, but the dude is a ligit nfl ilb… like top 5 yo.

          • DaMurph

            Oh man I wanted honey badger, Burfict I was meh, but Badger, it still hurts!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Yeah, I’d rather hit in the first two rounds. Ragland or best DE in 1. Henry in 2. Address what you didn’t do in 1 in FA.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            can’t take a running back in rd 2 when your D consistently gives up game winning drives costing at least 3 games this year.

            Has to be D, D and more D. So much D you can barely stand it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Kiper has us taking him FWIW.

          • CanadaBear

            That’s kinda why I was asking. Not that helmet head is the last word on anything.

          • DaMurph

            Depends on who we get in free agency and if we want to wait a year if he isnt ready. Whats the odds were are close to being in the big game next season? He is a hell of a player and could be a huge payoff for the 2017 season. Im torn between the two options and God knows I love my Irish players!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Nah, I’ve never seen these guys play, If Jack’s knee is jacked, then I’d pass on him, but I’m getting a boner for Henry, and I’d like to be the team that gets his best years. I’d totally pull the trigger on him in the second. We drafted Matty in the 2nd, so why not his ‘replacement’? We don’t need to worry so much about receivers with a stable of backs like that. One for every occasion. Plus Henry doubles as a lineman in pass pro on the playaction, giving Cutty that extra couple of seconds.

          • Trac

            Jacks knee is such a risk that he’ll be drafted by Dallas around the 7 spot.

          • DaMurph

            Dallas does crazy shit in the draft, so then they will have Jack and Lee injured at least 4 games a year!

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’m pumped about White, Super fast. Strong. Great hands and attitude. I was watching some videos on him on Da team’s official youtube channel. And we’re about to pay $14M+ to our #2 WR! Dfinitely need to sign another guy though.

        • AlbertInTucson

          The Bears drool anytime they see Notre Dame after a guy’s name.Not saying Smith might not be worthy of taking at that slot, but the Bears do lean toward “Domers”.

  • MB30SD
  • Irish Sweetness

    It came to me in the dark …

    1. Sign either Trevathan or Laurenitis (in that order).
    2. Draft Ragland/Mack in the 1st … OR .. the top DE and sign both ILBs above.
    3. Pull the trigger on Derrick Henry in the second, and become a play-action team. Total balance.
    Losing Matty is significant and must be significantly addressed. This dude is a durable load at 245.
    4. 3rd and 4th rounds grab OT/CB …
    5. Take a chance on Mario Williams.
    6. Draft G, TE.

    I think we hit big-time in the first two rounds that way.

    • Trac

      No to Laurenitus, the dude was ranked 2nd to last on LB production last year.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I thought he was just a cap casualty from what I read, no? Makes it easier then, sign Trevathan at all costs, and then draft a DE in the 1st, grab Henry in the second … get the old hat in the ring for Wilkerson or Mario Williams.

        My waters tell me all I really want to see out of the draft is Derrick Henry being a Chicago Bear, because you do NOT want to see him in the NFCN if he isn’t. #Rekt

        • Trac

          Jess, he’s got urlacheritus. See how I did that?

          • Irish Sweetness

            That defense didn’t quite have their usual clip now that I recall some games/results. Hot n cold. He’s done at 29?

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        still an upgrade of CD whom i assume was ranked last.

        • MB30SD

          My dick wold have been an upgrade from that absolute shit weasel

        • AlbertInTucson

          “Upgrade of CD”?

          That’s not even a “left-handed” endorsement.

    • Trac
      • Irish Sweetness

        Fkn A. There’s a whole section of Ireland that deals only in the folding stuff. And they like ‘dags’, as Brad Pitt would say ….

    • MB30SD

      Yo, dude. We already have 3 good rbs… one could be very good.

      You don’t waste that pick on a position of depth.

      You spend it hoping to find the next kam chancellor. Pace did great finding amos, let’s do it again and turn safety, which had been sorely lacking for us for a decade, into at least one if depth.

      Bama rbs have not fared well in the nfl, and no way he makes it to us in the second anyway.

      All d first 3 or 4 rds please

      • SC Dave

        We’ll see if we have even one good RB

        • MB30SD

          Sigh. Dave. Just like Conte and chicken shit were good, just give em one more game or one more quarter or just one more year of sheite.

          Dude, matty was awesome. We’ll live. I promise you.

          • Irish Sweetness

            MB, get on board YO !

            2015 Heisman winner, 2200+ yards, 28 TDs. This dude looks like a college player playing in a pee-wee league. Gots to get him. Gots to!

          • MB30SD

            Oh I know who/what he is. I saw at least 3 of their games this year. Kid’s a beast.

            Here’s the thing. We don’t need him… as much as a him at ilb. He’ll NEVER make it to us in the second anyway and if pace takes a fucking rb at 11 I will personally fly out to the draft and slap that punk.

            DL/ILB
            ILB/DL
            DB
            OL

          • SC Dave

            I’m fine with chances. But I’m waiting to see if Langford can be the guy. I hope he is.

            And if anything, you know I’m patient about giving guys a shot to become somebody

          • MB30SD

            hahaha… yes, you are the most patient man a know re: that… to a fault my man.

            From what I’ve seen the kid has all the tools and he was a rookie my maings. He did really well.

            Rookie dave, rookie: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000577047/Jeremy-Langford-highlights

      • Irish Sweetness

        Matt was our biggest back, but hardly a load. This guy is fast and BIG. We need a crowd disperser.

        • MB30SD

          Urine yo

  • willbest

    Ah… Jeb! My hopes of a Clinton v. Bush title bout have been dashed. But without you and your family locking up the billionaire donor class in a fools errand Trump wouldn’t have given us 7 glorious months of entertainment. So for that I thank you.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I heard Cruz say he’d get rid of the IRS with a straight face.

      • willbest

        Cruz actually believes he can accomplish more than 5% of what he says he can. I don’t know if it makes him stupid or scary.

        • CanadaBear

          He’s not stupid.

          • MB30SD

            Crazy it is!

    • Trac

      I’d much rather suffer the kackler than the Colonel if it comes to that..

      • willbest

        Well sure, my point is more that if he wasn’t in the race we Rubio would be a mere formality away from being the GOP candidate right now.

  • Irish Sweetness

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000637481/article/report-virtually-no-chance-sanu-stays-with-bengals
    Mohammed Sanu.

    26 years old, good muslim boy, no antics, 6’2, 210. 4/4 and 2 TD passing. Has sold shares in his future.

    • willbest

      Not near the talent of Jeffery, and if they sign Jeffery, they won’t have the roster space for him. Because at an absolute min they are committed to Royal this year having guaranteed his salary.

      • MB30SD

        When royal’s not hirt, he’s a beast chain mover.

      • Irish Sweetness

        This is my point. You can get three Sanus for the price of a guy who just missed 7 games, and may be made of glass, who hasn’t proven himself a number one guy. How is he worth 15M? He’s not a top tier receiver.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          There’s a saying in the biz…You can’t put 9 pregnant women in a room and get a baby in a month.
          One #1 receiver is worth more than three #3 receivers. Unless the Bears get to put an extra two guys on the field on offense, that’s just the way it works.

  • Irish Sweetness
  • willbest

    lovely….

    “Library officials have told Nashville’s chapter of the Black Lives Matter movement that meetings restricting those who attend by race aren’t allowed on public property.”

    BLM response:

    “Due to white supremacy in our local government, this week’s BLM General Body Meeting location has changed,”

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/02/19/black-lives-matter-meetings/80637498/

  • Irish Sweetness

    After watching “The people v OJ Simpson” (very good, eh?) .. was watching a British documentary “OJ Simpson the Untold Story”. The blood on Simpson’s socks, and blood (taken from Nicole’s gate 2 weeks after the murder and it having been wiped down, contained EDTA, a blood preservative, which doesn’t occur in blood naturally. No EDTA was found in the socks themselves, just the blood. Guilty or not, they sweetened the evidence against him. I always thought Fuhrman stank. Taking the 5th said it all. There was reasonable doubt about the evidence at all three scenes.

    • CanadaBear

      Guilty as hell but the the prosecution totally fucked up the case. I really don’t believe in karma but it was pretty satisfying to see that horrible fucker go to jail over the Las Vegas arrest.

      • AlbertInTucson

        The Judge, Lance Ito, was a complete dolt.

    • DaMurph

      I had this long response typed out and ready to hit the post button, then I realized, why? Theres just no use, some things just arent worth the energy.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Not saying he was innocent, but they did fuck with the evidence.

        • DaMurph

          No No NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats one bullshit theory that was disproved numerous times.

          • Irish Sweetness

            How would you disprove something numerous times?

            Here it is. 1. EDTA. 2. One team cross-contaminating 3 sites. 3. Mark Fuhrman.

          • DaMurph

            Yeah Irish, some BBC documentary got it all right and FBI and other labs that did the testing got it all wrong. FBI testified there was not preservative in the blood but some ions that were consistent with a preservative. All smoke and mirrors by the defense. If you think there was a big conspiracy to convict one of the all time, most beloved American sports heroes after law enforcement had continually covered up for him kicking his wifes ass, youll believe anything.

          • Irish Sweetness

            If the documentary got facts wrong about the EDTA then … well that would have to be proven, and the burden of proof would be on you. The FBI testified in 1995, the documentary was much more recent. And unless you actually watched it, no further conversation on it could take place.

          • Irish Sweetness

            And they NEVER interviewed Jason. Weird. If they were OJ’s footprints, who owned the other set? OJ could have gone back to the sene after Jason cut her head off. He was a documented basketcase – could have had a thing for Nicole. I just don’t believe that OJ could have decapitated the mother of his children.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        it was all a conspiracy set in motion by the ‘Tall Whites’ because they are racist by nature. ever wonder why they never abduct black people….

  • AlbertInTucson

    “aBearsBlog @dabearsblog

    I could care less what Jeffery wants. Stick him with tag. If he underperforms in 2016 he makes less on open market.”

    Teams do NOT want to tag players unless they absolute HAVE to.

    • Irish Sweetness

      And if he under-performs, you paid him 15M to do it. Slice it any way you can, but without Brandon drawing attention, the man has 4 TDs. We could get 2 or 3 equally good or better receivers for that money and ride Kevin White. Seriously, who pays their #2 WR fifteen million dollars? Kevin White is our man.

      • CanadaBear

        KW hasn’t played a down in the NFL. Might want to slow down on him just a bit.

        • MB30SD

          Hahaha

        • willbest

          I have come to realize that with Irish and football players its love at first sight.

      • willbest

        I am going to enter your world for a little bit here. A team that pays their #1 WR $3 million can pay their #2 14 million. And having 3 Sanus doesn’t do you any good unless you plan on rolling 5 WR. And its not like the Bears are hurting for money.

      • SC Dave

        Kevin white has not played a down. So far he is zero.

    • Johnnywad

      How much less could he care? I’ve always wondered that when somebody says “I could care less.”. Does that mean he cares somewhat? I think it does.

  • Irish Sweetness
  • Trac
  • Johnnywad

    You guys see the news of the shooting spree in Michigan last night? That was 10-15 minutes from my home. I’ve eaten breakfast numerous times at one of the scenes, and purchased a truck last fall from the car dealership where the other shootings occurred. The young man that died was a Senior where my son is currently a Sophomore. I don’t know him, or any of the victims, but damn, that’s close to home. I’m growing tired of the news these days.

    • The GP, Chairman of the Bored

      Guy lost it. Wife, two kids. Didn’t kill them, killed strangers.

      Additional screening and background checks don’t stop these guys. These guys can’t be stopped, except with firepower of your own.

      • Johnnywad

        Seems so. I’ve taken the concealed carry class. I never saw it through getting the license and buying the pistol. I’ve always felt safe with a handful of shotguns and rifles at home. But times sure are changing.

        • beninnorcal

          If I was allowed a CCW here in SF, I’d grab it in a heartbeat. Not that I feel like I’d need it all the time, but I always have to take my dog two blocks away to do his buisness around 10 at night before work. A British tourist was stabbed in the head a block from there 2 days ago and someone was just shot today about 4 blocks away.

          • Trac

            What kinda work do you do JW?

          • MB30SD

            Dude, do you work in the loin?!?

      • That Guy

        Any word on whether the firearms used were purchased legally or illegally? And whether there was a background check done?

        • Irish Sweetness

          He passed his background check I heard.

        • Trac

          Evra vagina should come with a background check. Just sayin.

          • MB30SD

            that’s a platform i could get behind, but what do you do when erra single one comes back as cray cray? (hee hee)

          • Trac

            Jess, and stay away from he ones packing heat.

    • Irish Sweetness

      The only American dude I knew around here outside of work just moved his family back to kalamazoo.

      • Johnnywad

        Small world. I know a guy that just moved back from there with his family. Wouldn’t happen to go by the initials W.E. would he? Is it possible the world is that small?

  • willbest

    Irish you getting ready to shed some tears when the Donks tag Von Miller tomorrow?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Nah. It was never happening. Alshon is the interesting one. Curious to see what Pace does there.

  • The GP, Chairman of the Bored

    https://youtu.be/3L6ZFvaqknw?t=55

    That’s what fucking happened. I call it the Juice Spill.

  • The GP, Chairman of the Bored

    Barkley: Turrible, just turrible

    http://deadspin.com/report-dada-5000-was-in-critical-condition-and-his-hea-1760319953

    Fuck that is the worst thing I have ever seen called sport. PPV Sport no less. Dude had a coronary in the cage and just fell down.

    • BearDown100393

      Someone will need to explain how that is possibly better than boxing.

      • CanadaBear

        I totally agree but I’ve seen some horrible heavyweight fights over the years.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Bellator. Meh.

    • Trac

      That did not look like a sporting event. Smh

  • StarkyLuv

    People that rely on metrics kill me. Just using my eyes, I know that a 2nd year Langford is a better option than a 9th year Forte. Langford’s arrow points up and his ceiling is much higher than Forte ever hit.

    My opinion, of course.

    • SC Dave

      A mostly evidence-free opinion at that.

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