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Five Thoughts on Free Agency, Day One

| March 10th, 2016

It was an exciting opening of the league year for the Chicago Bears. And one thing is absolutely certain: they got better. Five thoughts…

  • The signings of Danny Trevathan and Bobby Massie mean the 2016 Bears will open the season significantly better at inside linebacker and right tackle. It also means they will see their most significant upgrade at right guard. Vlad Ducasse is horrible. Kyle Long is one of the best guards in the game.
  • There will be a lot of chatter about the money given to Tracy Porter but it won’t come from me. Porter is not a shut down corner but he had a solid 2015 and the Bears didn’t need to create another hole in a secondary full of them.

  • Don’t sleep on Jacquizz Rodgers returning. The Bears had serious plans for Rodgers in 2015 until injury detailed his campaign. His usefulness in the return game was sorely missed last season.
  • Really like Ryan Pace’s approach to free agency. I’m not a believer in breaking the bank for superstars in FA. Those contracts cripple the cap and rarely work out in the long run. (Does anybody believe Vernon is worth all that money in New York?) Use free agency to find solid starters who improve your team and get your superstars in the draft.
  • Brock Osweiler just got $72 million. Chase Daniel got a deal from Philly that can be worth up to $36 million. I will no longer take criticisms of Jay Cutler’s contract seriously.

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  • Scharfinator

    FIRIIIIIRST

  • Big Mike

    Man, I thought I’d be first. Props Scharf.. More FAs please.

    • Scharfinator

      Any stud DL still out there? Wouldn’t mind us picking one up affordably.

      • Big Mike

        Not in FA. Not for a reasonable price. Hoping we’ll draft DL in the first AND second round.

        • MB30SD

          Who goes next to Danny boy… and what do we do if God forbid, he goes down?

          • Big Mike

            I just love the big uglies. Draft is deep at DE. Get them while you can. Average LBs, look good with studs up front. It’s a trade off. BTW, I wouldn’t hate taking the a top 3 ILB in the first round and one of the 15 DL with a first round grade in the 2nd. 1 of them should drop to us.

          • MB30SD

            That’s what she said.

            Yep, I think we gotta go:

            1. Best available dl/ilb

            2. Best available ilb/dl

            3. Best available db

            4. Magic

            5. Magic

          • Irish Sweetness

            Play the whole season with Leno at LT and just not getting it done in the run game? Mmmmm.

          • BC in Tampa

            That’s cause we’re running to the right behind Long and Massie.

          • Irish Sweetness

            1. Do you take the best ILB in the draft at 11?

            2. Is he the best ILB in the draft?

          • MB30SD

            if your top 2 DLs aren’t there, and depending on who you’re looking at… yes.

            Smith? Jack? Raglan? Think I’d take a flyer on smith or jack before raglan.

          • Big Mike

            It’s a toss up to me. ILB or DL. Unless the Bears have some sleepers on their draft board, AND a consensus top 5 player drops to them, then all bets are off.

            Mike

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            Shea?

          • Big Mike

            Did you do that just to get a reaction? 🙂 @MB30SD:disqus on Shea.. “worthless, terrible, terrible, terrible… “

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            you got me, I know MB loves to show the running in circles clip, and it has been a couple hours since he has posted it.

          • MB30SD

            You had me at you got me…. https://vine.co/v/eUWEHZELLJv

          • Irish Sweetness

            Jerrell Freeman. For the coverage. Timu as the switcheroo.

          • MB30SD

            make it so #2

      • Irish Sweetness

        How much is Nicks looking for? 6’5 345 is just mouthwatering. And if you put Goldman and Williams either side for a run look … wow. Our LBs would have a field day behind that.

        • MB30SD

          look up

  • That Guy

    I agree with most everything Jeff said. Massie is a bit more of a question mark. He’s not a turnstyle, but its not clear that he’s a the starting RT for the next 4 years either. Still, having Long as a dominant guard will mean Massie’s job gets easier as he can focus on setting the edge and trust Long to deal with the inside. And if Massie goes down, nothing is stopping us from sliding Long outside and bringing in a backup at guard. With the addition of a center (that might already be on the roster), the Bears O-line will be solid next year.

    Rodgers is a fine running back as part of our trio, but the team is still looking for another guy. The Bears are reportedly going after CJ Anderson (unless his agent is just puffing smoke). If Anderson signs here on a deal similar to what Forte got, I will be very pissed. The team would benefit from another RB though and Rodgers could focus on return duties to start the season.

    Given the market, I doubt the Bears go get a DT or DE of note. We’re drafting our big men.

    Still some quality DBs out there though. The Bears could add a vet safety or another CB.

    • Big Mike

      AZ was among the best in the NFL for sacks allowed. Massie is also a powerful run blocker. He’s a big upgrade over Long at RT. The upgrade at RG is infinity.. If Grasu puts on 15lbs of muscle and improves his technique, Slauson returns strong at LG. We’re looking ok. Leno will be the weak link. He wasn’t awful. LTs are hard to come by. Very solid workman like approach to improving the squad. 1 signing improves 2 positions. That’s being smart.

      • frank

        That’s why I wouldn’t be surprised if they pick Ronnie Stanley if he’s available at 11 and go with a DL in round two (especially if they sign Hicks in FA). The draft is very deep at DL, and Stanley can be a 10 year starter and a huge upgrade over Leno.

        • Big Mike

          Just look at it this way. Offense did ok last year considering they rolled out a bunch of practice squad receivers all year long. Defense was awful. Unless all of the defensive players they like for the top pick are gone, can’t see going OL in round 1

          • MB30SD

            dis

          • frank

            Oh, I can’t say that I disagree with you–I just think that since there is so much depth in the draft at DL, it wouldn’t surprise me if they went OL with the first pick and then went DL because they could probably still get a player who would have been a first round pick in many other draft classes–especially if they think Stanley can hold down the LT spot for the next 10 years.

          • Big Mike

            Someone has to play next to our new ILB. I don’t think he’s on the roster.

          • frank

            Like I said, I don’t disagree. And the draft is not particularly strong when it comes to ILBs–but they still profess to like McLellin, and may just think he’ll be better with Travathan beside him. Personally, I’d like to see them go defense with the first two (or three, or four . . .) picks. I just don’t know that they will.

          • Big Mike

            I’ve been a supporter of McLellin. But last year showed he’s a bust. He’s 95% everything you want in a player, but he’s always a click slow when he makes plays. Not an impact player. He’s always chasing. I’ll turn in my GSH Beer mug if McLellin is better than travathan. It will be fun to see how it plays out. Reggie Ragland, Myles Jack and Darron Lee all LBs keeps showing up in mock drafts I’m looking at. Haven’t seen one mock showing an offensive pick. These mocks aren’t very good at identifying the exact player (something like 6-7 right in the first round is the history, with the odds lower and lower the later you go). They are pretty good at zeroing in on position groups and even better at predicting which side of the ball. BTW, I’m not disagreeing. Anything could happen. I just caught this thread after i had taken a long flight and spent the time looking at mock drafts.

          • frank

            Agreed on all counts–except that I’ve seen at least three mocks that have the Bears picking Ronnie Stanley (two guys at nfl.com, and one at USAToday). That said, since it looks like they’re going to lose Jarvis Jenkins, I’m thinking DL is more likely, and if they don’t sign someone like Akiem Hicks, then it’s even more likely. And as I said before, as far asI’m concerned, they can pick defense with their first 4 picks and I’d be happy (if they’re good picks . . .).

          • Big Mike

            Good catch. I hadn’t seen that. With the way they are going on FA, I’d be ok with a stud OT. Have to look at tape on Stanley. Wouldn’t that be nice. O-Line set for a while to come.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I haven’t given up on Tayo at RT. He’s got 30+ pounds on Massie. He’s a good kid. He’s a load on the run-blocking, but the only time we saw him out in PS he was up against scrubs, but still kept the pocket clean and Fales on his feet.

        We may very well draft an OT in the first. How do folk feel about that?

        The only names I want to see in FA now are Sean Smith and Akiem Nicks.

        Then we could draft an OT, DE and ILB. Please God we get Henry. We currently have three small backs and a smaller one. And apparently Henry could be used as a TE. Scary.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          No, we won’t.

          • frank

            I don’t think they will, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they do. If they sign Hicks, they might draft LT, ILB, then DE.

        • Big Mike

          I feel like if they draft an OL in the first round it is a huge mistake. Tayo will be on the squad, but his fundamentals are on par with a D2 starter.

        • DaCoaches Mustache

          Your Tayo-rection is perplexing.

        • SC Dave

          And Unrein ar fb

      • BC in Tampa

        Stefen Wisniewski is available, the longer FA goes, the lower his price goes and he’s only 27. Grasu can just be depth while he bulks up and refines his tech but with Leno and Massie as the bookends I would like to be incredibly solid up the middle .

        • MB30SD
        • Big Mike

          Why is he still out there? What about Montgomery, isn’t he on the roster for another year? I thought he had a two year deal.

          • BC in Tampa

            No it was a 1 year deal and his and injury might be career ending from what I hear.

          • Big Mike

            Tough break (no pun intended) for the guy. He was a tough player. Had a couple more years in him.

          • MB30SD

            I think he snapped his vajajay in half

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s not on the roster. Backup C is Cornelius Edison, a rookie.

    • BC in Tampa

      AZ’s scheme revolves around throwing the ball deep, so if he has even the slightest trouble in pass pro, it will be exposed. As long as we’re solid up the middle, Massie can always shade to the inside and force his man to go wide which would allow Jay to step up in the pocket which buys him an extra .5-1 second and that can mean the difference between a sack and a pressure.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I think Long makes Massie better. Bushrod was better when Slausen was next to HIM.

  • Thompson Way

    So far, so good… If the draft is still going to be “best player available”, then we still need starter/depth at a couple positions.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    just saw Adam Schefter on Mike and Mike, he looked a little annoyed by the fact that he had to be on TV, even took a phone call while sitting on set.

  • MB30SD
    • Scharfinator

      Holy shit the Bucs with Martin. What a wreck.

      • MB30SD

        oh shit, forgot to put them on the list.

        they are a fucking dumpsterfiretrainwreck… even without lovie.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Upon roster review:

    1. Ducasse is not a Chicago Bear. We have 3 guards : Becton, Slauson, Long.

    2. Anyone watch Missouri – what’s Marcus Lucas like? 6’4 235. WR/TE

    3. Northern Illinois? Nathan Palmer, 5’11 WR.

    4. We now have a FB (Paul Lasike promoted from PS), also Perry, Langford, JockSqueeze, Carey.

    5. We will not be signing a safety.

    6. We have 10 Linebackers

    7. We have 8 D-linemen.

    8. We have 5 OTs or 6 if you count Becton.

    9. We have a 6’2 corner called De’Vante Bausby.

    10. That is all.

    • willbest

      We hate full backs for some reason. I can only assume that comes from Gina or George.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s played a lot of rugby but not so much football I think. Says he ‘loves to block’. As in, he prefers to block than carry the rock.

      • It’s the O. I think a lot of zone blocking teams neglect the FB and prefer the Hback.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Oh, it gets worse. The Eagles have $34 million in -guaranteed- money locked into their QB position. For the next year.
    Worse? It’s $34m guaranteed to Chase Daniels and Sam Bradford. So each month, they are paying $3 million a year to have one of those two underperforming schmoes take snaps…or not, if they both manage to get injured.

    • MB30SD

      yay eagles!

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        No wonder every Philly fan I know is always cranky and ready to snap.
        Their front office is sniffing paint thinner.

        • MB30SD

          them, the browns, and the bucs front offices should have weekly parties… for no other reason than they probably all *really* like pinatas and cake.

  • willbest

    Pace’s approach to FA seems to be to avoid serious bidding war. I guess that makes sense when the Jags have 190 million in cap, but we still have about 28 million in usable cap right now (the other 10 for draft plus midseason). Which buys you a lot of value players. At the rate they are going Jeffery might be an 18 million dollar cap hit this season.

    I guess Jeff was taking criticism of Cutler’s contract seriously up until yesterday?

    • The cap can roll over for next season, can’t it?

      Also, I think Long is due for an extension, if I remember correctly.
      And maybe they’re thinking of doing the same for Young based on his performance.

      Neither will be cheap.

      • willbest

        I am assuming Long had his 5th year option picked up. Since he wasn’t drafted in the top 10, and he is back at guard it will be the average of the top 10 guard contracts. Osemele just helped him out, but they are still pretty affordable. You would be looking at around $8 mil for Long in 2017. You could then tag him 2018 and it would probably be $10-10.5 mil. Bears control Long for a good while without him getting expensive.

        • I would be VERY surprised if the Bears tag Long. He’s becoming their franchise star (as odd as that sounds), and it’s always risky tagging those (they could feel ‘dissed’).

          Long is getting paid, sooner rather than later.

          Young is an interesting puzzle. Not originally signed by this regime. Disgruntled because he was no longer a DE rusher; however, this regime went out of their way to placate him, even traded away Hillbilly so he could get more reps, and have creatively made packages for him.

          Young was a steal no matter what, but will he want to get paid? Will he want to continue at his current position on the Bears?

          I predict he excels and also gets paid (though not as much as Long, unless he really breaks out).

      • frank

        Yes–there is a minimum amount that a team must spend, and what’s left can roll over into the next year. I believe there is some kind of notification to the league that goes along with that.

    • frank

      Yeah–bidding wars often result in huge overpayments. I think he looks to spread the money around, upgrade at a number of positions, and then select playmakers with a BPA draft strategy.

  • MB30SD
    • Plus Sized Danish Van Dyke

      You use a little Drakkar Noir on your sack just before you hit the streets?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Who uses just a little???

        • Plus Sized Danish Van Dyke

          go big or go home

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            If it doesn’t burn, you’re not using enough

        • MB30SD

          Exactly, you’re required to use half a bottle with each use. That’s why they only sell by the double-case

      • MB30SD

        Always

  • MB30SD

    Oh well, heeeerrrroooooo

    Wednesday, March 9

    11:55 p.m. ET

    • The Bears are working to bring defensive tackle Akiem Hicks in for a face-to-face meeting as early as tomorrow, according to Patrick Finley of the Chicago Sun-Times.

    • There is “ample interest” in tackle Jermon Bushrod, who recently underwent shoulder surgery, CBS Sports’ Jason La Canfora reports. He has meetings set with the Dolphins and Vikings.

    http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/03/09/rumors-news-free-agency-teams-players-contracts-trades

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Yeah, I heard the visit to Halas Hall is confirmed for today. Fingers crossed.

      • MB30SD

        don’t let him leave the bildin without paper. period.

        Make it so #2!

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Press conference for DT and Massie today; maybe he’ll be joining them at the podium!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Semi-boner. Niiiiiice. Get it done Pacey! Face to face, eh??

  • MB30SD

    a real-life account from one of the poor poor slaves being traded this spring Jeff. Don’t read it, it’s too shocking/sad/horrible!

    I think I’m gettin’ tha vapahs!

    http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/03/04/jayron-kearse-nfl-scouting-combine-clemnson-nfl-draft

    • willbest

      Wouldn’t have thought that they would be allowed to ask about his girlfriend and child.

      I have no idea about this guys relationship with the mother and child, but generally I expect Vasalgel is going to be a game changer for guys on the professional athlete track.

  • BC in Tampa

    Sean Smith is off the board, going to the raiders

    • Irish Sweetness

      Bugger.

      Man the Raiders got Irvin, Smith and Osemele!

      • willbest

        I think this is the year they are required to catch up or they have to pay out anyway

      • Sactowns#1

        Raiders make the playoffs this year and get past the 1st round. Put it in the books.

        • MB30SD

          Naaaaaahhh, they’ll raider themselves out of it somehow

        • They’ll have to get past the Donks and Chiefs, and even the Chargers are no push overs.

          It’ll be interesting, that’s for sure.

    • AlbertInTucson

      They had more money to spend and they are spending it.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    Could the reason Fitzpatrick has not resigned with the Jets be he doesn’t want to play with BMarsh?

    • Irish Sweetness

      IF BM was indeed Jazzing Cutler for playin like a bitch and they were besties .. .you know he let Fitzy hear about it.

      • willbest

        It wouldn’t shock me in the least if Fitzy has talked to BMarsh’s former QBs about the second year blues

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      $$$.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    My mind is still blown that a guy that has thrown 77 passes in the NFL, with 1 TD, and started 2 (TWO!) games in a 6 year career, is getting a 3 year contract with $12m guaranteed.
    In 96+ games, he’s been the best option for his team TWICE.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      i don’t get it either. but Doug Pederson is the coach of the Eagles and has worked extensively with him in KC, maybe he knows something we don’t.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Well, if anybody knows backup QBs that rode coat-tails to success in the NFL, it’s Dougie Pederson.

        • MB30SD

          Hahaha

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            If I’m Sam Bradford, I’m assuming I’ll be riding the pine by week 5, while Pederson sings himself sweet lullabies and pictures his face on Daniels’ body. I think there’s some serious wish fulfillment going on in this scenario.

          • It’s a bit nuts. Seems like they’re gonna try to trade Bradford, IMO.
            Or maybe they’re REALLY insuring incase Bradford goes down (again).
            Or it’s a REALLY expensive way to motivate Bradford.

            From what I’ve heard, Sanchize was receiving about the same as a backup over there. Still, doesn’t make it right.

  • Sactowns#1

    So living here I generally use the Niners as a yardstick since the news is so prevalent and I talk to so many of their fans. Let me just say, I’m thankful to be a Bears fan. They have done absolutely nothing and actually seem intent on driving that organization right into the ground. That Chip Kelly selection was hilarious, follow that with their complete non commitment in having a starting QB and doing absolutely nothing in FA and abracadabra, you have an even crappier team than last year.

  • Plus Sized Danish Van Dyke

    this is a sad sad video.

    these dumb ass Oregon hicks think it’s the 1880s. It’s infuriating to listen to the little girl screaming in fear as the cops pelt the truck with handgun fire. you are damn right they killed your pappy kid, your pappy thought this was Shane, and instead it was the Good the Bad and the Ugly.

    • willbest

      Not a fan of Thoreau?

    • CanadaBear

      Dumb asses! How did they think this would end?

      • Plus Sized Danish Van Dyke

        it should be well known that if you tell the State Police to fuck off and try and drive away from a roadblock they set up just for you, it ends in gunfire.

        And they know it. Fuck – they SAY it just before they DO it. “Are they going to shoot us? We can duck down?”

        Now imagine you hearing your kid saying that in the back seat of YOUR car. Are you getting out with your hands up, or are you risking your kids life by hitting the accelerator?

        These motherfuckers chose the accelerator. And now the one lunkhead is in a box. Hopefully a cheap box.

        • CanadaBear

          These nuts and others have stood up to police/govt in armed standoffs and gotten away with it. Either they were delusional and think they were always going to get away with it, they believed they always going to prevail somehow or they didn’t give a shit about their lives and the lives of family members.

        • Plus Sized Danish Van Dyke

          Also freeze frame at 5:43 on the helo view. He goes for his pocket. Clearly.

          And yes, he had a 9mm in there. Try that on the street with any cop.

          • BC in Tampa

            I agree that no matter your color, age, sex, etc. if you reach in your pocket while a cop has a gun on you, you deserve to get shot.

  • Sactowns#1

    Oh man Bernie was on FIRE last night! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcOJTxFlP9M

    • willbest

      Its a shame about those super delegates though. Trump is going to straight murder her in the general. He did finally notch a win in a state where whites weren’t 90%+ of the population. Still a pretty white state though.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Friendly wager on that?

        • MB30SD

          Why friendly… that’s for pussies

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            OK, if HC wins, I get to fly a drone into willbests avocados at top speed.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            And if willbest wins, I have to live with the Trump as President for 4 years.
            That seems like a fair wager.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            I seriously think that this whole presidential campaign stuff is a living satire of the way we treat politics in our country. People say that they will move out of the country if Trump is elected. Why? We as citizens let our government become a joke and I think that is really no candidates fault for what’s on the table for us to choose from. Trump may have figured that out and is perhaps trying to have the most fun possible with trying to run. I think I would see what I could get away with too because the entire system is now a joke. Why let it be a drag?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Because the Presidency is more important than some meta-f*cking-commentary on how disenchanted people are with the role of money in government.
            Lemme clarify – whether people want to treat the process or the candidates as a joke…when it is over, someone will stand there with bible in hand and take over as the leader of the executive branch and commander in chief of the US military. That is an awesome responsibility in reality, not the horse race bullshit that you see on the news. It’s not a joke, it’s not smoke and mirrors, it’s real and it has real consequences.

          • willbest

            Do you actually listen to what Trump says? He has the same trade and foreign policy as Sanders. He is a social moderate. The only difference between the two of them is Trump wants to reduce the supply of labor in the US in order to help the working class, and Sanders wants to tax the rich and give the working class free stuff.

            You might not believe him (I certainly don’t). But then I don’t believe Sanders either, and I know his whole domestic plan would be DOA in Congress anyway.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            You’re doing that strawman thing where you argue something that I didn’t say and give yourself points off of it.

          • willbest

            No I am not. I am pointing out that the people voting for Trump are voting for something. Not against something else.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            And I think you’re wrong, based on actual polling of his support base.
            http://www.gallup.com/poll/189773/trump-support-built-outsider-status-business-experience.aspx?g_source=POLITICS&g_medium=topic&g_campaign=tiles
            Even giving you the benefit of the doubt, and assuming that “immigration” really means “they took uhr joooobs”, then that constitutes 10% of his supporters that rank domestic job numbers as the first or second most important reason that he has their support.

            I take it you’re not going to take the wager.

          • willbest

            Based on a poll of 277 of his supporters so MoE +/-7%. And they asked for the most important characteristic of which 82% of the respondents came back with some form of “I trust him the most”. Which it starts there I would imagine. Because if you didn’t trust him the most you probably wouldn’t be a supporter.

          • willbest

            And I assumed you weren’t serious after you listed your terms.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Oh no, I would totally go buy one of those little drones.

          • willbest

            Alright here are the terms.

            Trump (GOP) v. Hillary (Dem). So both need their party’s convention nomination.

            Loser uses

            http://www.athleticpets.com/images/PackersPinkHeart.jpg

            as their avatar until the Bears play week 1 of 2017.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            You’re on.

          • willbest

            Things just got real.

          • MB30SD

            Deeeeum

          • BC in Tampa

            Ask all the Disney workers that got their jobs taken how they feel about it.

          • Sactowns#1

            hu?

          • BC in Tampa

            A couple of friends of mine in Orlando, they had to train their replacements and then were shown the door. H1b Visa’s suck elephant balls.

          • Sactowns#1

            Ah, I and Bernie both agree on your point.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse
          • Sactowns#1

            “Excuse me Mr. Trump but the corporate overlords don’t like your position on visas.”

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Granted, he then reversed his position 180 degrees the same night, but that’s to be expected.

          • willbest

            Yeah… that was his campaign manager smacking him over the head. Trump is great at tactics horrible at strategy. He also doesn’t care about the details. Otherwise he could have bored people with O visas vs. H1 visas.

          • Trac

            Could it be that 3rd world slaves work harder and for less than the lazy American slaves?

            Every 1st world country is doing this for economic reasons. It’s a sad but true fact and it’s THE main reason Congress wants to pass some form of amnesty(both parties). The bleeding hearts are being used to skid the rails on amnesty.

          • MB30SD

            my peaches….

          • BC in Tampa

            Amnesty does not help America or Americans

          • Trac

            I agree with you in principle but the federal reserve doesn’t agree with us. They set monetary policy and Congress passes it into law. Their hands are tied. The only way you tell the Federal Reserve to piss off is to default on our debt. But once you do that, it’s look out Greece, here we come. Nope we’re in it up to our necks until that happens. Evra one would have to be willing to kiss their retirement and savings goodbye. This is why the World banking system is trying so hard to do away with cash. Once that’s accomplished, there will be no way for anybody to cash out.

          • willbest

            We are all Argentina. I think people are going to need to come to terms with the fact that 140 years of relative stability was a statistical anomaly. US will probably be 6-8 smaller countries within 50 years

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Based on what?

          • willbest

            1) There are no less than 12 distinct cultures in the US with more than 10 million people.

            2) There is ever increasing discontent between DC and the rest of the country, which has always been the case, but not the Federal Government is in every aspect of your life.

            3) The money runs out sometime in the 30’s at which point the only way to maintain order will be through military force.

          • willbest

            There has been evidence that the candidate who has the most fun usually ends up winning.

            But politics didn’t get this way. Its pretty much always been. Adams and Jefferson were throwing mud back and forth and Andrew Jackson invented modern campaigning.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Correct on both points.

          • And as we all know from the milk commercial, Burr SHOT Hamiliton over politics.

          • Trac

            Biltong…mmm…

          • MB30SD

            are you welch? hahaha

          • Trac

            Stop that Geno. Hee hee

          • MB30SD

            exactly, you’re lucky i don’t live in tx…. punk

          • Trac

            Hmm… I seem to remember GP mentioning the Raptor and a chain once.

          • MB30SD

            ouch

          • Plus Sized Danish Van Dyke

            Cause DBB is so well known for it’s friendly nature….

      • AlbertInTucson

        She had another coughing fit recently. The Dems better have a plan B ready. I think there is serious doubt as to how healthy she is.

        • Sactowns#1

          Where do the right wing talking heads keep getting the “health news”? I’m no Hillary fan but I’m not buying crazy conspiracies involving the Clintons anymore.

    • Plus Sized Danish Van Dyke

      BERN is the one who knocks! Get him a pork pie hat!

  • Trac

    So there’s talk the Bears want to meet with CJ Anderson? What does he bring that Forte didnt? Serious question…

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      5 years younger, for one thing.

      • Trac

        I’m listening…

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Much better yards per carry (4.7 last year), and presumably cheaper too.
          Plus he was a Bronco.

          • Trac

            Tankie

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Looks like the Dolphins got him (unless Denver comes back and matches the offer, and then so on and so forth).

          • Short yardage brute. Does everything. Played behind same concept.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Henry averaged 10 YPC as a freshman. That’s doable.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          I answered!

      • willbest

        We have Carey and Langford for that though.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He’s a fin. No way. Henry.

  • CanadaBear

    Read the Massie signing is aimed at Long and Slauson helping Grasu out in the middle. Makes sense.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Broncos REALLY got worked yesterday.

    In addition the the guys they actually lost, how happy is Von Miller going to be with signing his tender tag after seeing what Jackson and Vernon got…?

  • MB30SD

    vernon davis anyone?

    • willbest

      He didn’t really inspire in Denver or San Fran last year, then again neither did either QB. Plus now that he has a SB ring his most important interest going forward will be maximizing revenue. I would stay away because I doubt we would find good value there.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Hee HEEEEEE !!!

  • MB30SD

    “Saints officially released CB Brandon Browner and used the post June 1 designation on him to save salary-cap space.”

    – per schefter

    Oh herrro… saints connection much?

    • willbest

      Surprised there hasn’t been any news on restructuring Bree’s contract. Maybe Elway brings another end of career QB in to compete for another SB.

      • MB30SD

        interesting thought will

        • AlbertInTucson

          Aren’t he and Sean Payton joined at the hip?

    • Irish Sweetness

      6’4?? I just came.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Bears looking at Scott Tolzien as backup to Jay according to Biggs.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Based on current FA activity, I expect him to get 4 yrs, $15m guaranteed.
      Wait, we’re not Philly.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Packers have Brett Hundley.

      Tolzien is a local boy. Rolling Meadows.

  • MB30SD
    • Plus Sized Danish Van Dyke

      it’s Kevin Costner’s fault. Trying to bang Jennifer Garner while looking like a tote bag.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse
  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Rapaport now says Hicks is flying in to Chicago tomorrow night.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Bennett for Graham swap is still a possibility

    • BC in Tampa

      Straight up or no deal tho.

    • That Guy

      So we get the better TE, they get the cap space?

      • But Graham is coming off an achilles tear, isn’t he?

        Maybe the SeaChickens really do think Graham is soft (like they claimed when they owned him a couple years back)

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Patellar tendon tear.

          • Maybe their doctors know something ours don’t.

            I swear, Bears have worst doctors (Carimi, Culumbo…)

          • Plus Sized Danish Van Dyke

            Can’t be trading slaves unless you look at their teeth

          • MB30SD

            Yikes… too soon.

          • Sactowns#1

            Add White to the list.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            White got hurt during camp after drafting, the rest of them had injury history

        • AlbertInTucson

          Graham makes Greg Olsen look like a hall of fame blocker.

    • based on what? See above… there’s literally nothing of substance for this absurd rumor.

  • BC in Tampa

    Pace!!!! Get me a safety!

    • Irish Sweetness

      No love for Amos or Quartey-Jones? They’re young and will learn. They’ll look better behind a pass rush too. I think safety is off the list, or they would have signed Gipson or Iloka.

      • BC in Tampa

        I need someone to pair with Amos, I loves me some Amos.

  • BC in Tampa

    Faster 40 time? Willie Mays Hayes or Forrest Gump?

    • AlbertInTucson

      Tom Hanks?

      • BC in Tampa

        No the characters themselves

        • Sactowns#1

          Willie Mays Hayes, Forest was a distance runner, not a pure speedster like Willie.

          • AlbertInTucson

            But he ran back kickoffs for ‘Bama!

            I’d still have to take Mr. Hayes.

  • BC in Tampa

    Also, Jermaine Gresham in for a visit.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Meh.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Wonder if that’s just leverage in trade talk with Seattle. Graham’s numbers last year were not career highs, but they weren’t all that far off his normal production, minus the shortened season due to injury. He still can’t block for shit though, so we’d have to live with that.
        Gresham does nothing for me.

        • I might prefer Miller. Graham was dynamic in NO, but how much of that was the system and Brees?

          He’s coming off a brutal inj. He’s older, and as u pointed out, he can’t block (and I want us to be a tough run first team).

          On the other hand, if he returns to form, he’s uncoverable and a big time redzone target.

          If we roll out Graham, Langford, White, Alshon…that’s some major fire power

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            They need two out of the four (graham, gresham, bennett, miller) or someone else that hasn’t been floated out. All are old(er)…Gresham is the youngest of the bunch at 27.

          • Sactowns#1

            Better the Devil we know

          • SC Dave

            We know NOTHING about White

          • Irish Sweetness

            Other than that he’s 6’3, 215, super strong, ran a 4.35 at the combine and guys like Mayock called him the best receiver in the draft last year before POX took him 7th overall … we don’t know much, no.

        • there’s literally nothing connecting Graham to Chicago besides a bunch of fan’s wishes.

          Here’s how this happened.

          1) Martellus Bennett posts Instagram photo of himself in Seattle same day it leaks that Bears are shopping him (he was there for a long-scheduled appearance that’s not football-related, BTW)

          2) Bears fans see this and freak out, assuming he’s going to be traded to Seattle.

          3) Bears fans start speculating if they could do a Bennett/Seattle swap. The “sports” website Sports Mockery writes an article about this trying to make it sound like it’s a real possibility.

          4) This gets enough traction that people think it’s legit, even though there’s nobody that matters even suggesting it’s a possibility. All we know is that Bennett is being shopped. There’s nothing connecting him to Seattle, and beyond that nothing connecting Graham back to Chicago.

          Beyond all that, why would the Bears want Jimmy Graham? He’s not a fit in their run-first offense.

          He’s a slot WR, not a TE. He wants to run routes and catch lots of passes, get lots of targets. They already have Alshon Jeffery, Kevin White, Eddie Royal, and Marquess Wilson. Plenty of guys to get targets. They need a TE (or 2) who can line up on the OL and run block, plus be competent targets in the passing game. That’s not Graham at all.

          Not to mention $$. Bears have about $25M invested in WRs for this year. They’re gonna take on $10M more? Again, Graham is a WR, not a TE. He can’t line up at TE for the Bears because he doesn’t block well enough. Same problem SEA had last year, where he didn’t fit and wasn’t happy.

          • willbest

            Look at you going all Bob Woodward on our asses.

          • MB30SD

            yep, totally agree. he’s just like girly thor… dude’s not a fucking TE, he’s a huge WR that still gets tackled like a man 60 LBs lighter than him.

          • Hawks owned him. They just went up to the line and bitch slapped him.

            Was very surprised they then went out to get him,and naturally, Graham does shit in that division.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            You wouldn’t take him back?

          • MB30SD

            sure. we know what we’d be getting now

          • Trac

            I think what we’re seeing is a lot of football players trying to protect their bodies/careers now. I call it the Goodell effect.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Here’s why it has legs.
            We either trade Bennett for picks or a guy, or we release him. Resigning him is widely acknowledged as not a possibility anymore.
            There IS a connection with Seattle, as they pursued a trade for him last year, so we know they’ve had relatively recent interest.
            And we know they’re not thrilled with Graham. So I don’t think it is quite the absurdity that you’re making it out to be.
            You so salty today!

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            If the options are let Bennett walk and conceivably land with the Packers or another division team, trade him for a fifth or sixth rounder, or trade him straight up for someone like, if not, Graham even with the contract and fit, which one would you do?

          • Trac

            Would you call that a fair trade though? Graham is a year removed from All Pro caliber. Seattle might not see your logic imo.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Bennett fits their mold better, which is why they wanted to trade for him last year to begin with.

          • Trac

            I tell you this much, Graham Jeffery, White would give Jay some serious firepower.

          • Definitely. But Graham doesn’t fit the mold of what Chicago is building. All the guys they’re bringing in are instilling toughness. Graham is soft (albeit incredibly talented).

            I’m guessing Bears would rather have a pick than that.

            But they wouldn’t be able to get Graham for Bennett anyway. They just need to hope they can get SOMETHING for him.

          • it’s pure speculation that people are talking about like it’s on the verge of happening

      • Plus Sized Danish Van Dyke

        Better than Khari Lee

  • Tre was just on NFLN. He’s excited to play behind that ‘monster’ Goldman. Giggity giggity.

    I’m sssoooo happy we FINALLY roster a REAL fucking ILB (for cheap, too!)

    The Bears without a real MLB/HB is just wrong, like flying a kite at night

    • SC Dave

      Nice metaphor, or simile… cant remember

    • Irish Sweetness

      If we get Ragland, then we’re for real.

  • Sactowns#1

    All this talk about Bill Wade last week… you guys killed him!!

  • TBC

    How many off-seasons in a row has it been now where the Bears have “gotten better”? Damn that regular season!

    • beninnorcal

      Happy Thanksgiving, Cheesy.

    • Johnnywad

      You mean the one where the Packers just lost to the Bears, Lions and Vikings at home and we’re gifted an additional play resulting in a miracle, once in a lifetime reception to narrowly defeat the Lions in Detroit thereby preventing them from being 2-4 in the division? Yeah, that pesky regular season. But hey, the Packers did beat the Redskins in the playoffs…….so you got that going for you.

  • MB30SD

    GP!!!!

    I’d buy that for a dollar: http://uncrate.com/stuff/jeep-crew-chief-715-concept/

    • Plus Sized Danish Van Dyke

      Good for picking up Romanian women

  • CJ Anderson to fins, per PFT.

    I thought that was a bit of a longshot. I don’t think the Bears are willing to dump Carey (cheap and relatively effective) just yet.

    They’ll likely roll with Langford, Carey and Jizz

    • AlbertInTucson

      And the hits just KEEP ON comin’ for the Broncos!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Whee in the wide world of sports are they getting all that money?

  • AlbertInTucson
    • I’m no mathematician, but he’s getting 90M, Von Miller will likely get MORE, and Oz is making $18m/yr, oh, and Trevathan another $9M.

      Is he implying they ALL wouldve given discounts? That’s some major discounts.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Posting it doesn’t mean I agree with it.

        Frankly, I think it’s a garbage parting shot.

        You got your payday. Why was that necessary?

        • That Guy

          He’s just trying to justify skipping town in his own mind.

        • I know u didn’t agree with it. Who would?
          I was just asking aloud.

          Sometimes the delusions of athletes make me wonder how they can function in real life.

  • I wouldn’t mind Gresham at TE. He’s tough. He wanted Geno Atkins in the Oklahoma drill. That’s big boy duty. That tells u something about his makeup. He’d be an awesome inline TE, maybe even more.

    http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/On-the-block/0686fb94-5b27-4c04-a89e-0ee440fb11a6

    Though we would still need Miller, but that’s be a fantastic duo, IMO.

    • That Guy

      Fantastic is a stretch. But that would be a solid pair of vets. I’d want to bring on a rookie as well though. Jake McGee (Florida) is an interesting second day option.

  • Trac
    • Irish Sweetness

      We’ve got 5 backs on the roster. Wouldn’t cut any of them for him. Henry or bust.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse
    • SC Dave

      Wow

    • CanadaBear

      She cracks walnuts with each hand! Although, how do you rip the sac enough to get a nut out?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        She has better hands than Bennett!

      • MB30SD

        Why would you invoke the visual canada… whhhhyyyyyy?!?!?!

    • Shady

      That’s nuts.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I see what you did there.

      • MB30SD

        She’s got a lot of balls to do something like that.

        (Incomiiiiing!)

    • Watched too much Sin City

  • Shady

    Bushrod joins Gase in Miami.

    • That Guy

      Good for him. Good teammate and probably has a bit more in the tank to work as a backup. His big money days are behind him for sure.

  • haha. Cray-cray. File this under stranger than fiction.

    Bleacher Report’s Jason Cole reports at least three NFL
    general managers have crossed CB Brent Grimes off their free agent board
    due to the behavior of his wife.

    It’s national news at this point that the the behavior of Grimes’ wife became toxic in Miami. She ripped players and Miami reporters publicly and was arrested at a Dolphins game in 2015. Other
    teams are aware and consequently shying away. Also working against Grimes’ market value is his steep on-field decline. He looked washed uptoward the end of last season and turns 33 in July. – Roto

    • willbest

      So his contract will be

      Vet min + $100k per week roster bonus + $2 million if your wife makes no public statements during the 2016 league year.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Social media is a helluva drug.

        • MB30SD

          So is being a complete fucking buffoon. Smh

    • Trac

      I suggest Brandon Marshall takes time out of his busy schedule to visit Miko Grimes. She’s either cray cray or on drugs, take your pick.

  • Irish Sweetness
  • willbest

    I would like to point out that

    Cutler’s wage per game played is $865,000

    Sam Bradford’s wage per game played is 1.2 mil

    In 2016, Cutler is will make $16 million. Sam Bradford $18 million.

    • That Guy

      You have to consider the signing bonus when you make those comparisons. Tom Brady will make less than $100K per game this year because they restructured his deal into bonus money.

  • Forte contract.

    The base value of Matt Forte’s three-year deal with the Jets is $12 million with $8 million guaranteed.

    The New York Daily News’ Manish Mehta reports Forte can earn another $4 million through incentives. Forte wound up with the smallest annual average ($4 million) among this year’s top free agent running backs, as Doug Martin landed $7.15 million per year in Tampa Bay, Lamar Miller got a $6.5 million average from Houston, and Chris Ivory received $6.4 million annually from the Jaguars. – Roto

    • willbest

      Sure but those guys are 26-27 and Forte is 30. Forte got paid 7.6 mil per year from 26-30.

      edit: well Miller is 24, I don’t know why he doesn’t get any respect (edit; and by respect I mean 7+ mil a year). He looked good every time I saw him.

  • Plus Sized Danish Van Dyke

    Mean Gene Okerland will be at Chicago Comic Con next week. So there’s that.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Vet minimum signing; I say go for it.

    • He’s still alive? Who would’ve guessed he would outlive Ultimate Warrior, et al.

      He was like 40 in the 80s

      • That Guy

        Unlike those other guys, Mean Gene wasn’t downing steroids and pounding 12 packs between road trips.

        • Maybe he was both has Keith Richards Genes.

          It was the 80s, and in that circus, even Mean Gene probably had his share of fun.

          Or, maybe not. Good on him either way

  • Walter not a fan of Massie.

    Bears sign OT Bobby Massie (3 years, $18 million): D Grade

    I had the urge to make this yet another Millen, but it just doesn’t feel egregious enough. The Bears are overpaying, but they’re not giving Bobby Massie a ridiculous amount. Massie is a solid run blocker, and he
    has ample starting experience. He also fills a need, allowing Kyle Long to slide back inside to guard.

    Having said that, Jay Cutler will suffer from Massie’s poor pass protection. Massie was the one who was responsible for Palmer’s season-ending injury back in 2014. He routinely struggles to keep opposing pass rushers out of the backfield, which makes this contract look extremely questionable.

    http://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php

  • Irish Sweetness

    Wow. Terrance Knighton is listed at 355lbs. 6’3. He’s a proper fat bastard. He could kick sand in Terry’s face. Surely we get him or Nicks, and given the Broncos connection … it may be fatboy.

    Grab David Bruton (S) at the same time. One of the best STers in the league apparently.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Bears sign …….. Sherrick McMannis.

    Nicks and Gresham to visit.

    • EnderWiggin

      I’ll be happy if McMannis is just a special team ace. If he sees time at nickel – we are screwed.

      • Plus Sized Danish Van Dyke

        he sucks

  • bearfacts

    Well said in all respects, especially this.

    “Brock Osweiler just got $72 million. Chase Daniel got a deal from Philly
    that can be worth up to $36 million. I will no longer take criticisms
    of Jay Cutler’s contract seriously.”

    I’ve been saying that for over a year now and wondering when Bears fans were finally gonna wake up and realize Cutler’s deal was actually one of the better things Emery did not one of the worst and his cap cost doesn’t increase over the next three years either. In fact it goes down by $1 mil next year.

    Chase Daniel is getting $12 mil guaranteed to be Sam Bradford’s backup ????? WTF! We’re very lucky to not have a need to be in the market for an experienced starting QB and can use the draft to find a #2 who can be developed for a couple of years.

    The guaranteed money to guys like Jackson and Vernon simply blew away the deal J J Watt got and neither of these guys could fill his shoes as a rusher or as an all around DE. And $62.5 mil for Janoris Jenkins??? Hell, give me Tracy Porter for $15.5 mil any day compared to that. No, he’s not exactly a shut down corner but then neither is Jenkins. He’s more of a mid level to marginally above average CB whose never been an elite player. The fact that the Rams chose to tag Trumaine Johnson over Jenkins should have told others something but apparently the Giants front office has been off on vacation lately.

    Pace made all the right moves day one and if he can get Hicks to commit today and then move to resolve his issues at TE successfully and soon it will have been a very good week.

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