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Bears Select Leonard Floyd, Edge, Georgia

| April 29th, 2016

Linebacker Leonard Floyd (84) (Photo by Sean Taylor)

My thought:

He’s a freakish athlete and Pace/Fox/Fangio knew the Giants wanted Floyd. (It was not a well-kept secret in New York.) I love when organizations get the guy they want and the Bears did just that by trading up and getting the deal done. If he becomes a double-digit sack guy, the Bears will look back at this as one of the great trades in organization history.

The notes from CBS:

STRENGTHS: Has the requisite burst to surge past tackles as a speed rusher with underrated strength. He is surprisingly powerful at the point of attack, flashing dynamite in his hands with an effective hand slap to knock away blockers attempting to gain control.

His first-step burst and acceleration get him into the backfield quickly off the edge or knifing inside. Excellent movement skills for his tall, lengthy frame. Relentless nature and speed to collapse the pocket or chase down plays from behind. Because of his agility and closing speed, could move to a more traditional linebacker.

WEAKNESSES: The two major knocks on Floyd are weight and durability. Has lean bone structure with twig limbs, thin torso and scouts have concerns about how much weight he can add – looks like A.J. Green in his Georgia uniform, which isn’t a positive comparison for a pass rusher. Below-average functional strength.

Struggles to generate movement at the point of attack or convert speed to power. Too easily controlled on the edges. Can be eliminated by blockers when he doesn’t effectively use his length.

COMPARES TO: Barkevious Mingo, Cleveland Browns – Neither players is known for ideal power features. Floyd and Mingo have lean athleticism and get-off quickness to threaten the edge and keep blockers guessing.

IN OUR VIEW: A highly intriguing size-length-athleticism prospect, Floyd can stab, dip and flatten around the edge, maintaining his balance without losing speed to the pocket. He is deadly in space, but Floyd’s lack of functional strength and growth potential are glaring concerns. One of the best athletes in this draft class, his is not one of the best football players and would need to land in a scheme that protects him in a niche role.

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  • bearfaninde

    First!
    Kiper and crew don’t like it

  • Joecashflow

    Oh yeah all right

  • Ribeyes for Operators

    Maybe Floyd can go two ways and play slot TE as well.

  • Ribeyes for Operators

    Bucs take Hargreaves.

    • Ribeyes for Operators

      Bucs get the guy they wanted and pick up a 4th

      • EnderWiggin

        Pace really hates the Aints.

  • Dion Jordan?

  • SC Dave

    All the ‘trust Pox for dumping Forte’ folks foaming at the mouth now. Amusing.

    • willbest

      I just want my 4th rounder back

      • Big Mike

        4th rounder vs the guy the Bears really wanted. ?

        • willbest

          Not really convinced the Bucs or giants weren’t going to take cbs

          • Big Mike

            He was mocked to the Bucs by several. Bears traded with Bucs. Maybe they actually knew something we didn’t.

        • Irish Sweetness

          And we still have a 4th rounder. I smell a TE.

        • chitownproud85

          I dont understand how this logic isnt prevailing. Are the Bears going to miss that camp body that freakin much? Are people that upset that they wont draft a player they wont care about in 6 months anyway? Is everyone high?

          • Big Mike

            I think the natural instinct is to want to “win” the draft. We spend so much time analyzing, projecting and going back and forth that we want to be rewarde for our effort. More picks has become all the rage. Then there is the question of strategy. Why move up 2 spots and give up even a camp body? (Although there are pretty good football players at 106). Pace must have had a real certainty that the Giants or Bucs were going to take the guy they had evaluated at least 2 spots netter than the next guy on their board.

            Moving up to fans is one less pick to have fun with. It would have been fun to control the fourth round. Floyd at 9 must have been fired up Pace, more than pick 11 and pick 106.

    • Big Mike

      I like the pick.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      we got one of the best DC in the league, look what they did with the garbage fire at LB last year. so i am hopeful.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Two different decisions. I’m allowed to think one was right and one was wrong. And this one sure looks and smells wrong.

      • SC Dave

        I’m thinking the opposite. We’ll see, eh?

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          True

      • jab

        Couldn’t agree more. Reminds me of Bruce Irvin from Seattle. He was decent, but not worth an early pick.

        • That’s what I saw in Lloyd.

          A taller, skinnier version of Irvin who SEA let walk this offseason.

          If we wanted a subpackage rusher (not like we didn’t already have Houston/Young), then why not Irvin?

          Lloyd can supposedly cover better, but we’ll see about that.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Not me. Dumping his contract and drafting Floyd are going to be proven great decisions when the season gets underway.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        if only they would have cut that good for nothing kicker too.

      • SC Dave

        The contract argument is comically stupid.

  • Big Mike
    • Irish Sweetness

      This is it Mike. I feel this is what will happen with Leonard. It’s not the same kind of WTF? feeling we got with Shea. Everyone and his mother had mocked Floyd to Chicago.

      • Big Mike

        At some point everybody mocked everybody to the Bears. Floyd was one of those guys. An early favorite that people talked themselves out of in the lead up to the draft.

  • Captain Obvious

    If Tunsil goes up in smoke and Floyd turns in 8+ sacks a year, this was a very smart move.

    So, let’s check back in 3 years to make that judgement.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      I will eat my hat if Floyd gets 8 sacks a year for us.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        try it with some spicy mustard or hot sauce

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Won’t happen. We can do it at the draft party next year if he does.

      • Big Mike

        By the way don’t go all Big Mike on this pick, like I did with Kyle long in 2013

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Lol, I’m at that point with it

          • Big Mike

            Hopefully it works out you were as wrong as I was

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Hope so!!! Eating the hat would be OK with me

    • Irish Sweetness

      Dude, he was smoking weed 13 minutes before the draft started and then posted it online. He’s a fucking idiot.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        i am guessing its an old pic. he was sitting in the green room at the time it was posted.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Ah, I was just looking at the time on the clock … that’s SLIGHTLY different.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            if i were him i would be finding out who had control of his Twit account, that is if he wasn’t stupid enough to post it himself.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Cost him a LOT of money, but he still won’t go short of burgers.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            If he was dumb enough to allow anyone to take a pic of him doing it, what is he gonna do if did find out who posted it or whatever?

            Beat them or …..ah, he may do something stupid, who am I kidding?

    • jab

      Floyd will not have even close to 8 sacks this season. 4 is optimistic.

  • Shady

    More analysis from drafttek:
    http://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Draft-Scouting-Reports/Scouting-Report-Leonard-Floyd.asp

    Leonard Floyd is one of the most intriguing edge rushers in the draft from an athletic standpoint. He has an excellent frame at 6’4″ and has the length to keep blockers from engaging his body. Floyd has a tremendous first step, good top end speed, flexibility to bend the edge, and a strong closing burst. Over the course of his three years at Georgia, he registered 182 tackles, 17 sacks, 26.5 tackles for loss, and five forced fumbles. He has surprising power in his hands and flashes some strength at the point of attack. His natural athletic ability shows up when he’s asked to drop in coverage, where he exhibits solid awareness. Floyd also shows some versatility as he’s lined up as an inside and outside linebacker, as well as with his hand on the ground.

    Floyd’s game also has some significant holes. He tends to play with some hesitancy, needing to see the play develop in front of him rather than anticipating from pre-snap reads. He’ll also need to improve his arsenal of pass rush moves, as he’s relied heavily on speed at the college level. But the biggest question mark will be whether Floyd exhibits enough strength to hold up on the edge in the NFL. At just 232 lbs, he lacks the bulk and strength to consistently hold up against the run. Floyd’s most intriguing trait is his pass rush ability, but size may necessitate a move to inside or weak side linebacker.

    Floyd is ultimately a boom-or-bust prospect. His natural athletic ability sets a ceiling as an elite pass rusher, but his lack of size could mean that he’ll struggle to find a position and stay on the field. With so many teams in need of an improved pass rush, you can expect Floyd to come off the board sometime in the late First or early Second Round.

    Floyd was quietly one of the big winners of this year’s Combine. He was a top performer in each category he participated in, but also impressed during the weigh-in by tipping the scales at 244 lbs (after being listed at 231 by Georgia last season). Floyd appears to have the size, length, and explosiveness to be a difference maker off the edge at the next level. The bench press numbers from his Pro Day on March 16 will be an important indicator of whether he also has the length to set the edge against the run.

    Strengths
    – Speed and agility as an edge rusher
    – Explosive first step
    – Movement skills to drop in coverage
    – Versatility

    Weaknesses
    – Lacks bulk and strength to set edge against run
    – Will need to vary pass rush moves and refine hand technique
    – Classic tweener that may not have a true position

    • Irish Sweetness

      They only got his height wrong by two inches!

  • I can sum up Floyd’s scout profile.

    A blacker leaner twitchier Shea.

    • Doc Nitty

      You had me at blacker

    • Johnnywad

      Well Floyd played big boy college ball. Shea played at the University of Phoenix Online. So Floyd gets a bump there.

  • willbest

    A bit surprised the saints didn’t draft lynch. That roster is a dumpster fire and Brees only has a couple years left

    • They already drafted a QB in Garret Grayson.

      And don’t forget Luke McCown!

    • Irish Sweetness

      I think they gave up more passing yards than anyone last year …

  • Bender McLugh

    So do we still have 8th & 29th picks in the 4th?

    • willbest

      We have 29 gave up the 8th to get Floyd

      • Bender McLugh

        Hrrmmmmm….. Yeah that will change me thinks

  • Irish Sweetness

    Surprised at the negative blowback from this. At least we didn’t take Eli Apple over Vernon Hargreaves.

    Pace moved up for this guy so I’m confident that his homework is done. Let’s stick to the positives and forget the fact that he doesn’t look like a 4-3 OLB, which we don’t play anyway.

    Unique combination of length and athleticism. Extremely rangy with great chase speed from sideline to sideline. Good change of direction for taller player. Long limbs and twitch to spring into a tackle from a mile away. If unblocked, will chase down line of scrimmage from backside and foil run plans. Elusive in open space dodging blockers and sifting through traffic in pursuit of the ball. Has the traits to be highly effective in man coverage. As an edge rusher, able to shoot out of the starting blocks and cover substantial ground with long second and third strides. Not a great bender, but has ankle flexion necessary to lean at 45-­degree angle and buzz inside the rush arc. Substantial pass rush potential with a variety of options to the quarterback. Pet move is upfield burst followed by jump­-cut inside tied with inside club. Able to dip and rip around the corner. Dangerous on T/E twists and blitzes underneath. Able to worm his way through the A-­gap as standup blitzer.

    • Bender McLugh

      Gotta love this dude’s speed if nothing else

      • Irish Sweetness

        What’s more important when you’re chasing the QB right? And you have that long body to throw at him? Biggest need was a pass rusher, and I think we got the right one.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        .13 slower than Lee. But at least he’s tall!

        • Bender McLugh

          if they get Lee as well…… Yummy

          • Irish Sweetness

            We could move up again …. Pace goes Full-on Costner ….

          • Karl Joseph is gone.

            No one else worth it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            No love for Su’a Cravens? 6’2, 225 …. he’d bring it at SS.

          • We already have a SS who can bring it.

            We need a FS who can cover.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We just drafted Floyd!
            (ducks)

          • haha. Well, on at Floyd will be useful on Vadger Hail Marys.
            Exactly what we needed at #8

        • and skinny

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Yeah, he’s like the elastic man. Fantastic.

    • SC Dave

      The funniest thing is the trust placed in the idiots that post those reviews to the interweb.

  • Doc Nitty

    Can this guy jump out of a pool?

    Is he at least COUNTRY strong?

  • Irish Sweetness

    Tunsil was smoking dope … MINUTES BEFORE THE DRAFT. Cool friend.

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/4/28/11533380/nfl-draft-laremy-tunsil-marijuana-bong

  • Tunsil to South Beach.
    What could go wrong?

  • Big Mike

    Expected to hear his name called in the first round, Floyd is a true outside linebacker who has the chance to jump right into the starting lineup for a team that needs immediate help at the position. Though Floyd is certainly capable of stopping the run on the edges, he could end up making most of his money as an edge pass rusher in a 3-4 system. He recorded 17 sacks in three seasons at Georgia, highlighted by a career-high 6 1/2 as a freshman. The Bulldogs defensive MVP in 2014, Floyd had a team-leading 4 1/2 sacks and also tied for the Georgia lead with 10 1/2 tackles for loss in 2015. The 2015 Butkus Award finalist defended three passes in his final year and forced five fumbles in his career, though none came in 2015. Floyd also did quite well at the NFL combine where he ranked among the top linebackers in the 40-yard dash (4.60 seconds), vertical jump (39.5 inches) and broad jump (127 inches). To put things into perspective, freakishly talented New York Giants receiver Odell Beckham Jr.’s vertical jump at the combine was 38.5 inches and he leaped 122 inches in the broad jump. While Floyd has the athleticism and motor that NFL teams obviously will like, he has a thin frame and probably will be locked into playing on the outside unless he bulks up – which is to be expected. That lack of ideal overall NFL size and strength might deter those teams in the top 10 of the draft from taking Floyd. But his ability to be a quality edge rusher who can also succeed in space right off the bat, might benefit a team that already has some other established big-time defenders on the roster.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I love the pick Mike. I can’t even remember the name of the DT we drafted who could do 44 reps.
      Began with a T?

      • Paea

        • SC Dave

          Not quite a T

          • Bender McLugh

            Stee

          • I was guessing he meant a DT since Pea broke the record at 49

          • Irish Sweetness

            Point proven. Couldn’t remember the guy.

        • EnderWiggin

          No man. Paea did abizzilion reps. I think Gilbert jumped out of the pool.

          • Irish Sweetness

            And where are they? Leonard doesn’t look like Arnold, don’t care, let’s just hope he helps us out.

  • BearDown100393

    Damn well better have awareness.

    • Shady

      Points!

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  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Peppers, celery salt

    • Big Mike

      Classic.

  • NFL should drug test draftees tmrw.
    That would be epic.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      They should drug test our fucking scouting department starting tomorrow.

  • Bender McLugh

    Don’t be Dick…..erson

    The Bears moved up two spots to draft a player who had 4.5 sacks in 2015. Floyd never dominated at Georgia. He is an incredible athlete, but the pick is risky. Defensive coordinator Vic Fangio will have to coach up Floyd, who needs to put on weight. The Bears did need another pass-rusher, but to surrender a fourth-round choice for Floyd is odd. Thumbs down. — Jeff Dickerson

    • Irish Sweetness

      Jeff Dickerson, GM for super-bowl winning …wait …

  • ah, fuck. Raiders go Karl Joseph.

  • Doc Nitty

    So….can we go back to talking about Isis, the Fed, aliens, and boobies now?

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Might as well.

    • SC Dave

      That would be dai esh

    • Irish Sweetness

      Have you ever seen aliens, The Fed, Isis and boobies in the same room?

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        conspiracy??? they are all the same people, except for the boobies why would they hang around the others.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Two nipples walk into a bar.
          One nipple says “Two beers please.”
          Barman goes “I’m not serving you, you’re off your tits.”

          • Shady

            How is it that Barbie never got pregnant?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Ken’s gay?

            NTTAWWT.

          • Shady

            Close!

            Ken came in another box.

          • Irish Sweetness

            A poo box.

        • Doc Nitty

          My wife.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Oh well played sir!!

  • Big Mike

    Shoot is was our 4th rounder. #106. Not #127. Still like it.

    • So we still have the Pat’s 4rth.

      4rth rounders rarely work out anyways, so I’m not that disappointed on that.

      But FLOYD?

      By far the biggest boom/bust in the Top 10, IMO

      • Big Mike

        Yes

      • Irish Sweetness

        Not Eli Apple over Hargreaves?

        We need to relax on the Bust pedal. Give the guy a chance to play first, where it counts.

        • I would have preferred to stay put or trade down and drat Karl Joseph.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Yeah, trading down would have been interesting, but clearly nobody wanted QB3 that badly ….

        • willbest

          I will, but I put away the Aberlour 16 and pulled out glenmorangie.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          He did, in college, and couldn’t manage 5 sacks this year. You think he’s gonna do better against real talent?

          • willbest

            Isn’t McPhee the sack guy, and Floyd the coverage guy?

          • Both of our new ILBs can cover.

            in obvious passing downs I’m guessing we go 5-2, in which case, Floyd/Houston/Young will be the subpackage rush.

            We got a subpackage rusher at #8

          • willbest

            I guess I am going to need to see him in action, I just feel like holding where we were and getting Tunsil would have been my armchair GM preferred plan.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I see him as both. Versatility is what we drafted.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I have no idea how he was being used, just like his speed, slipperiness and radius.
            Most of these picks are hit’n’hope. Bet your life Bosa turns out to be a stud?

          • willbest

            No but Donald and Williams just felt right. Like how the hell did we miss out on those guys. I don’t have that feeling this year.

  • jab

    Way too big of a reach for the bears. I really hope I’m wrong.

  • jab

    I think the bucs played them. “We’re going to take Floyd unless you trade picks with us and give us your 4th rounded too”.

    • Most likely the Bears thought the Gmen were going to take Floyd.

      If the Bucs liked Floyd, they would have drafted him or asked for more.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Trevor Sikkema ‏@TrevorSikkema 11m11 minutes ago

    Dolphins just got this year’s La’El Collins.

  • Cormonster

    2/3 of the earth’s surface is covered by water…..the rest is covered by Leonard Floyd.

    • Irish Sweetness

      BOOM! See?

  • willbest

    Lions got the Ohio state tackle

  • There goes another safety.

    Think we’ll go DE in 2nd now.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Jihad Ward. You know it.

      • Doc Nitty

        He’s now ninth on Mel’s best available board.

        Ergo, he’ll be gone by round 2.

        • willbest

          Trade up!

  • ah, there’s that awkward shot of Myles Jack waiting.

    • willbest

      Don’t know why he would show up.

  • willbest

    If the Colts don’t draft 3 o-linemen in this draft they should just shop Luck

    • 1 down, 2 to go.

      • willbest

        Surprised a center went before a guard.

        • two safeties and C gone by 20.

          Wasn’t expecting that.

          • Irish Sweetness

            3 tackles in 8 picks!

          • willbest

            Wasn’t somebody saying the draft is deep with d-line talent? Which means people aren’t really worried about missing out on #3-6 because 7-12 are just as good. Makes O-line talents price go up.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            And oddly enough, we traded up for one.

  • So we would rather trade a 1st and 4rth for a tall skinny subpackage rusher instead of giving a #1 for Mo Wilkerson?

    • willbest

      And $15 million a year. Which I suppose we have plenty of money now.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We couldn’t have traded for Wilkerson though, he hasn’t signed his tender. If he signs it, then we can give up next year’s first. That would be good. Mo on board for the super bowl push.

    • Trac

      I watched Floyd ‘ s highlights. Meh. Didn’t look like a man amongst boys a’ta’ll.

      • AlbertInTucson

        He played in a big-boy league.

  • willbest

    Jets haven’t signed a QB yet have they? Lycnh? Fitzmagic to Denver?

  • willbest

    Man its pretty boring waiting to see who the queens and fudgies take.

  • willbest

    I am sorry Mike.

  • willbest

    Texans trade up 1 spot!

  • Johnnywad

    Nobody liked the Long pick either. Tough crowd.

    • willbest

      Yes well when you get cute and fail in year 1, you have no wiggle room in year 2.

      • Johnnywad

        You’re presuming Pace’s first year was a failure?

        • willbest

          Reference was to emery

    • Then again, nobody liked the Shea pick either.

      • Johnnywad

        For good reason. He didn’t even come close to meeting the Waffle Criteria. And look how it turned out.

    • Shady

      A few of us were OK with the Long pick.

    • Irish Sweetness

      And the Carimi pick …

  • jab

    Floyd is going to be a Bruce Irvin (Seattle) reincarnate. He’ll have the speed and make some plays, but never live up to his potential. Really dislike the pick.

    • jab

      I’m not a negative bears fan either. I’ve loved all the moves pace has made in the off season, but this pick is bad.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Well, we don’t know that. There’s no way of knowing that until it’s played out.

  • willbest

    Would not have expected that from the Texans

    • I kinda did. They wanted to stretch the field while Hopkins destroys teams everywhere else.

      They also now have a strong armed QB.

      This will help their run game too.

      • willbest

        yes but the downward trajectory… Fuller is only 6 feet.

        • Yeah, but Fuller is compared to Desean Jackson who forced safeties back.

          Whether he is or not is another issue.

          I get the logic, just don’t know if Fuller is DeSean.

  • WP4Life
    • Doc Nitty

      Clearly POXY subscribes to this newsletter.

    • Irish Sweetness

      There ya go.

      The more I think about this (because the second round is a day away), Floyd probably wasn’t drafted to be that premier pass rusher. He’s going to be absolutely lethal in coverage with that wingspan. He’s going to be lethal in chasing down RBs with that wingspan. He’s just not going to do it like Lawrence Taylor. 99.9% of them don’t.

      • Think you’re right too.

        Maybe he’ll start off as the “SAM” in the 3-4.

        So

        Floyd/Houston-Freeman-Tre-McPhee

        Then on obvious passing downs

        Freeman-Tre

        Floyd-Goldman-Houston -Mcphee/Young

        This might also mean Houston back to DE, but who knows.

        Still have Sutton, Washington and Ego battling for DE

        • Ribeyes for Operators

          Bears have a shit record with lankly DE/OLBs. Gaines Adams bad.

          • Doc Nitty

            Mark Anderson had that one good year! So there’s that!

          • willbest

            And Shea had 1 good play

          • Doc Nitty

            It was a phenomenal play.

  • willbest

    run on WR hurry and get them while they last

  • Ribeyes for Operators

    I don’t like Rankins to the Saints there. 6’1″, basically a black Stephen Paea.

    • Doc Nitty

      Wasn’t Stephen Paea a black Stephen Paea?

  • willbest

    Alright Vikes, Texas A&M Punter is the highest rated in the draft. Work it.

  • Ribeyes for Operators

    Floyd shows that Halas Hall is now Fangio Hall.

    Fangio is pulling these strings. They want the D that he built for Harbaugh in San Fran. He wants Navorro Bowman, Aldon Smith, Patrick Willis. He feels that is where it starts.

    • MB30SD

      So fucking do I!!

      Wish he’d start that project already.maybe he’s kicking it off in Rd 2?

  • SC Dave

    Ass?

    • Big Mike

      Funny

  • willbest

    WR… just as good since Teddy can’t throw it anyway.

    • Ribeyes for Operators

      Treadwell will light Kyle Fuller up

      • willbest

        We couldn’t cover Diggs and Wallace, so I don’t know how this is going to hurt us.

      • Not with the insane pass rush of Floyd!

        • Big Mike

          And two professional middle linebackers, plus what we add in rounds 2 and 3

  • SC Dave

    Five Buckeyes in the top 20.

    • willbest

      I heard some talking head say they might have 6 in the first round this year.

  • Ribeyes for Operators

    Pace justifies Floyd

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/2016/04/28/video-ryan-pace-explains-the-decision-to-take-georgia-olb-leonard-floyd/a6la7mj/

    Likes his length and wingspan. Sounds and looks like a slave trader.

  • WJ3. Bengals sticking to board.

  • willbest

    I hope we weren’t banking on a CB in the 2nd because they are going fast.

    • Ribeyes for Operators

      Vontaze + WJ3. Man I liked Wj3. Kid will have a career.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        If he keeps tackling the way he does, it won’t last long.

        • Ribeyes for Operators

          NFL wideouts won’t put up with that shit and the spearing is bs

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            That’s when he even makes contact. He is lanky and fast but holy shit does he need to just work on wrapping up.

    • CB Burns gone too.

      CBs going like hotcakes.

    • SC Dave

      Pass Rusher >> CB every time

  • willbest

    Broncos on the move… Lynch perhaps?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Connor Cook?

  • Irish Sweetness

    Treadwell goes 3rd wide receiver? Didn’t see that coming. He looked a money pick.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Slow. Real slow.

    • willbest

      4th actually.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Wow, right …

  • Ribeyes for Operators

    Steelers – THE classic 3-4 team, the Troy P. run 3-4, is transitioning to a Lovie like Tampa 2.

    And the Bears, the 4-3 team is now the 3-4 team.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Minus anything resembling Troy P. That doesnt work out real well.

      • willbest

        Tampa 2 doesn’t work all that well without anything resembling Urlacher

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          It was OK until we had safeties that disappeared in coverage too.

        • without a healthy Harris or motivated Pepp, the cover 2 is death by inches.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Folk are knocking Floyd being skinny – he’s listed as 244. He can turn into quite something else with another 10 pounds or so on that frame … you lose speed, but you have the potential for Urlacher Plus. I’m excited for the guy.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            He ain’t 245 now.

    • Not really, GP.

      Steeler’s were an ultra-aggressive 3-4 D (cuz of Poly).

      Fangio’s 3-4 is basically a 4-3/5-2 with little blizting, as Irish likes to point out.

  • Ribeyes for Operators

    Broncos going Paxton Lynch?

    • I think so.

      • Ribeyes for Operators

        He’s a 2 year project, so they still need a vet

        • Irish Sweetness

          They should be all over the Bucs and Glennon.

          • willbest

            They have Sanchez

          • Ribeyes for Operators

            I forgot about the Dirty one.

        • there it is.

          Horseface will start him, GP. Cuz he’s balls-to-walls.

          Bootleg sprint right on 2. Hut!

          • Ribeyes for Operators

            also probably correct

          • AlbertInTucson

            That doesn’t work so well if the defense isn’t afraid of the guy hurting them from the pocket.

      • Ribeyes for Operators

        and you are right.

  • And suddenly Fitzmagic is left without a chair in musical chairs.

    • Ribeyes for Operators

      Paxton is gonna be my FF 2nd.

  • willbest

    Packers are going to take Jihad just to destroy souls on this board

  • Irish Sweetness

    Josh Lucas, Personnel Director, talks about why the Bears went after Floyd.

    http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/videos/Player-Personnel-Director-on-Floyd/491bd50e-1e4b-42b7-a449-67b087b18764

    * Offers versatility in coverage

    * Georgia did not utilize him enough as a pass-rusher, hence sack total was low.

    * High football IQ, good character, low risk.

    • AlbertInTucson

      The Bear defense has a need for speed.

  • Ribeyes for Operators

    How much Jack? Miles o Jack.

    Shit, Pack pass him for a team mate. a BJ Raji wannabe

    • willbest

      Do we take Jack if he is there in the second?

      • Yeah. But I only play a DR on tv, and on unsuspecting women….

      • Ribeyes for Operators

        Floyd + Jack. THat would be hilarious.

        Sam Acho, your flight to Cleveland is leaving…

    • AlbertInTucson

      Health concerns with so much defensive talent still available are putting the hurt on Jack and Ragland.

  • jab

    Packers took a nose tackle in the first round. Feel blessed bears fans. There was a lot more talent available to them.

    • Ribeyes for Operators

      the pick underwelms

      • willbest

        more than ours?

        • Ribeyes for Operators

          ours is a boom/bust pick. a Jevon Kearse freak pick.

          Pack just got a guy with a low ceiling. A guy easily found in the 2nd or 3rd. Kenny Clark isn’t even as good as Will Sutton.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Aren’t virtually ALL 1st rounders “Boom/Bust”?

          • Yeah, but you try to minimize the risk.

            When go to Vegas, you gamble.

            But you can either hit black jack table and grind it out, or put the mortgage on 30 in roulette.

            We did the latter.

          • AlbertInTucson

            You make it sound like Floyd was projected to be a 2nd rounder.

          • He’s the classic “High ceiling/low floor” .

            The biggest in the top 10.

            What does this mean? This means he didn’t produce.
            He doesn’t exactly have the physical criteria.
            He may not be a scheme fit.

            He’s riskier than others who don’t have those questions.

            Dion Jordan and Mingo were almost identical to him in those regards.

            I prefer production (like Karl Joseph or Tunsil) over “upside” – but that’s just me.

          • MB30SD

            No, it’s not

          • Irish Sweetness

            No way did we do that, guy’s a freak, and a smart one. But we’ll see, as always.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Who did you want to take instead of Floyd?

  • willbest

    49ers trading back into the first

    • Hollywood Cook

      • willbest

        5th year option is pretty important on QBs

    • Ribeyes for Operators

      Niners gave up the 4th, 5th AND 6th to do this with KC

      • lol for an OG!?

        Fucking 9ers

        • Ribeyes for Operators

          jesus that …. man. i got nothing

          • my friend’s a 9er fan. I feel like trolling him. But he is also a clipper fan, so I’ll give him the night off.

          • Ribeyes for Operators

            he’s not even the best GUARD on the board right now

          • Gotta protect the franchise QB! Blain fucking Gabbert.

      • willbest

        And their 2nd?

        • Ribeyes for Operators

          sorry 2nd, 4th and 6th for the move

  • 9ers are trying to steal our worst pick award.

    • willbest

      They got Buckner though

    • AlbertInTucson

      Who did you want instead of Floyd?

      • I wouldn’t have traded up for Floyd.

        I would’ve stayed put for Karl Joseph.

        Or traded down for about 12 guys.

        • MB30SD

          Fucking Bingo

      • willbest

        If Floyd wasn’t there at 11, I would have taken Tunsil or Hargreeves

        • Ribeyes for Operators

          Pace leaked dis-info that he wanted Lynch, to bait the Broncos to give away their draft to come up from 31. Didn’t work.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I don’t buy THAT at all. The Bears had too many other needs to spend that #1 on Lynch and Elway didn’t just fall off the stupid truck.

          • Ribeyes for Operators

            no it was a stupid play but i do think Pace wanted to move back but when a deal was there for Floyd he went for it

        • MB30SD

          Bingo

      • willbest

        The only thing that I really don’t like about Floyd was giving up pick 106 to get him. Would have rather used that 106 to move our 41 up to 30-32

        • Irish Sweetness

          I think he knew the Giants were going to take him.

  • Nkemdiche goes to Cards.

    Makes sense. They have a good locker room and took chance on Honeybadger.

    • Nmediche sounds like an exotic japanese dish served on naked high end escorts at yakuza meetings.

      • Ribeyes for Operators

        Yakuza picnics.

      • AlbertInTucson

        He was still available because he has the “takes plays off” label.

      • MB30SD

        Yes please

    • jab

      Glad he didn’t fall to the bears in round 2. Not only did his character issues scare me, but his inconsistent play really was a red flag.

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    • Shady

      Oh look it’s Gary the cunt.

      Flag. Minimize.

      • Ribeyes for Operators

        Hub has Kathryn Spatti going in the 5th to the Seahawks.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Lori has a helluva lot of roomates.

        • Ribeyes for Operators

          If Lori makes $98/hr and only works 3-5 hours a day, how is she netting $17k a month?

          • AlbertInTucson

            On her back?

    • If u can, find out the Bears scouting page. Thanks.

    • Doc Nitty

      You’d be lucky to be called a cunt.

  • Ribeyes for Operators

    Panthers grab Jack? The Hillbilly retired.

    • Nah.
      Think the go CB or Oline.

      Or how about this.

      Henry! Henry, Stewart and Cam running

    • he retired a couple years ago. he just kept playing through it.

      • Evan! ur phantom mustache must have tingled cuz we were just talking about u.

        Like the pick?

        • oh yeah? what were you saying? were you talking about how i shaved the mustache off because my 6-month-old has developed the habit of grabbing it and yanking as hard as he can? =]

          i’ll be back around more once the season starts, but it’s hard to keep interest in the off-season when i’ve got the firstborn to keep my busy.

          as far as the pick goes, i like the idea of it. an edge rusher who will give us 10+ sacks a season? sign me up! whether or not floyd is that guy, there’s no way to knowuntil we know, ya know?.

  • willbest

    If the panthers have a strategy this off season, I have no idea what it is.

    • It’s astounding they refuse to protect Cam.

      Didn’t they learn from the SB?

      • willbest

        Well it taught them to create a big hole at corner, and then double up on a position they have a beast in already.

  • Don’t know much about Vernon Butler, but he dresses like a black 007

    • Ribeyes for Operators

      Conference USA is a class place.

  • willbest

    Seattle is going to take our lineman

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    The Auditorium AV was really really good. Chicago rocked this thing.

  • jab

    Bears wasted a pick, but at least a bunch of other teams did as well. Tons of talent left for round two.

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      who do you like at 41?

      • jab

        I’d go ashawn Robinson if he’s there.

        • Picnics with the Yakuza

          solid

          • jab

            He’ll probably be gone before the bears pick, but this kid is going to be good.

          • jab

            I only coach youth and high school football, so I’m in no way qualified to question the Bears picks, but I have watched the film on Floyd and I don’t see it. Robinson is going to be good. Lawson should have been the bears first pick.

          • I haven’t coached shit outside madden, but I have eyes!

            That’s all you really need.

            A lot of “experts” also express huge reservations about Loyd, but like I said, I’ll put my outrage on pause ….for now.

          • jab

            Watch his tape from the year, not just the highlights. I went back and watched once I saw his name in all the mock drafts. He has potential, but he’s not going to be better than Lawson.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Ward. No question.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Easy. Although Derrick Henry if he’s there. Getting 1 yard in the NFL can be pretty crucial.

        • jab

          You’d take Ward before Robinson?

  • willbest

    Alright, in round 2 I am getting attached to Jihad Ward

  • AlbertInTucson

    If Myles Jack hadn’t said the magic words “Micro Fracture” to the NY Post, he’d have been off the board LONG ago.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      It’s still asinine that people can’t just SHUT UP or stay off of social media for a liitle bit.

      You know that internet meme question: Would you live completely off the grid for a year for a million dollars?

      Well, this is like that….shut up, don’t do drugs, stay offline and it makes a difference of earning several million dollars

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        then he said he’d be happy to play 3 years. And he didn’t care if he slid down the board.

        Dude. STFU.

        • AlbertInTucson

          SMH.

          “We aren’t spending a #1 on you to play for 3 years, son.”

  • Shady

    Still PLENTY of talent available for the Bears tomorrow.

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      Chris Jones… please

      • willbest

        We have a bunch of tackles need some ends

        • Picnics with the Yakuza

          We have Ego and Sutton and Unrein.

          Jones is a guy who wins his battles at LDE and will make a Goldman/Jones/McPhee left side attack something to make Vadgers piss himself

          • willbest

            Unrein is our full back

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            silly rabbit

          • willbest

            look you, we can’t have him all tired when we need him to block 2 linemen and a linebacker on the short yardage plays.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Akiem Hicks, Eddie Goldman and Terry Fucking Williams aren’t tackles?

            Not forgetting Scruggs, D’Anthony Smith and Bruce Gaston …

          • Ososfan

            Our boy Terry hasn’t done anything yet but I presume he will have a beastly year this year!

        • jab

          Love Chris Jones too if Robinson isn’t available. He’s not just a DT, but he can play DE in a 3-4 front.

    • A’Shawn Robinson, Chris Jones, Jonathan Bullard, Mackensie Alexander, Jason Spriggs, Jarran Reed, Von Bell, Darian Thompson.

      All are players talked about as potential 1st round picks at one point or another who fit a primary need for the Bears (IMO the 4 biggest needs, in some order, are DL, OT, CB, and S).

      • Ososfan

        Spriggs was taken by the 49rs in the first round! They traded away a bunch of picks this year to get back in the first round. I really liked Spriggs… Oh well…

        • no, they took Joshua Garnett.

          • Ososfan

            Oh, I’m terribly sorry about that J Wood, you’re definitely right! After the 49rs took Buckner, I for some reason thought they took another prospect I really liked in Spriggs! Haha. You Da man!

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Ward

  • Laremy “Mufasa” Tunsil.

    Never know when there’s gonna be a chemical attack.

    #bePrepared

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      fun at the surplus store

    • AlbertInTucson

      I heard that photo was YEARS old and put out by his Stepfather who is already suing him.

      Smart move. Lower the kid’s value while trying to sue him for money.

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        that was some brutal shit.

        Now the kid goes to Miami where a bong is mandatory. If you DON’T have a bong in your car in Miami, you get a ticket.

        #Irony

  • Picnics with the Yakuza
  • Here’s a complete list of front 7 players Fox or Fangio have had a hand in drafting in the top 15 this century:

    Julius Peppers
    Thomas Davis
    Von Miller
    Aldon Smith

    I didn’t like Floyd as a prospect, but I’m assuming Fangio will turn him into a stud.

    • Peppers was a no-brainer.
      Thomas Davis I liked and was a classic LB, not rush.
      Miller was a no-brainer

      Aldon was a bit of a risk for various reasons. Is he even considered a boom or bust?

      Aldon also was more prototypical than tall, lanky Floyd.

      BUT, I’m willing to give Floyd the benefit of the doubt.

      I just think it’s an extremely risky choice for a top 10 pick.

      We just got rid of a #1 “tweener” because he lacked prototypical physique,instincts, aggression, and production .

      I think purely from an athletic standpoint, Loyd is more explosive/twitchy with some jolt in his hands.

      He also looks more aware vs the pass.

      Hopefully, that is enough, but even Fangio couldn’t salvage Shea.

      • I’m with you there. That’s why I didn’t want them to pick him.

        But hearing Pace say part of the logic here was that Fangio loved him… I’m gonna give this the benefit of the doubt.

        For now.

  • jab

    I don’t post much, but please let Ashawn Robinson fall to us so I feel better about this draft.

  • In general, it’s easy to get caught up in the draft as “this guy sucks, this guy’s great!”

    It’s too easy to forget the draft is not the end, it’s the beginning.

    A draft pick’s success or failure often depends so much on the situation they fall into. How good are the coaches there to develop them? How well do they fit the scheme? Can they be put into a role that plays to their strengths and minimizes their weaknesses?

    I’m guilty of forgetting this way too often. Coaching is so important to a draftee’s success. It’s why pretty much every Emery D pick washed… the coaching sucked. Even Fuller sucked until Fangio could undo the damage the previous staff had done, which took a good half season after only a year.

    Point being, the Bears now have arguably the best defensive coaching staff in the NFL. They have a tremendous track record of grooming guys for success. Look at the hit rate for defensive players throughout the draft in SF and DEN from 2011-14. It’s awesome.

    I’m going to assume similar happens here (and we saw the start of it last year. 2 draft picks = 2 solid starters. With some decent depth coming from a couple UDFAs). Bears should add multiple solid starters by 2017 to defense in this years’ draft.

    • Fangio and crew is the saving grace.
      I have no doubt they’ll squeeze the most out of Floyd and other players, which is more than I could say about Bubba Gump and Dr. Death.

      I just can’t shake the Dion Jordan/Mingo similarities. Just can’t. I can’t forget the image of Shea getting washed out because I could bench more than him, or him getting dragged 5 yards cuz he’s undersized, or being lost in general cuz he was a “tweener”..

      I hope to god Fangio whips Floyd into a beast, but for now, I’m more worried than excited.

      That’s my initial reaction.

      And from what I could see on TV, I’m not alone.

      • I know, that was my initial reaction too. Everything I’ve heard about Floyd the last 2 months makes me not like him.

        But he is explosive. He has that going for him, at least. Let’s see what they can do with that.

      • Ososfan

        Dion Jordan was crazy Gooding college, his off-field issues dindt help him develop…

    • jab

      They’re not going to hit with this guy. I agree that coaching matters, but this kid doesn’t show much on tape unless you watch just the highlights of his college career. If you watch every game of this past year you’ll see what I’m saying.

      • Irish Sweetness

        So Pace and the scouting staff, who traded up to draft this guy and hit last year’s draft out of the park, have all failed to see what you did?

        We shall see.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          I wouldn’t say hit it out of the park….White got injured or already had some form of injury so that whole situation is still up in the air in how that was handled so the verdict hasn’t been truly passed

        • jab

          If I’m wrong, I’m willing to eat crow. No one wants me to be wrong more than myself. I just don’t see it with this kid. Trust me, I hope I’m wrong.

        • jab

          You want to make a bet on Floyd’s sack numbers?

        • Ososfan

          Taking a jab at jab?. I see. Let’s all be optimistic, the only reason I’m not going a little crazy is because if last year’s draft being so awesome.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Would still have liked the Bears to stay put or trade down….trading up and getting into a top 10 pick, that athlete should scream pure “stud” material. But moving up only 2 spots? That’s not enough “oompf” or whatever.

    Some are saying Fangio will coach him up….well, sorry but a 1st rounder defensive player shouldn’t really need it in that sense, that’s for lower picks.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Tonight reminded again me that Tampa really still is Chicago South

  • Irish Sweetness

    Treadwell brings his kid to the draft .. she looks about 8!!

  • Irish Sweetness

    Mayock on Floyd:

    He is one of the most polarizing conversations in the entire draft. He has a ‘wow’ get-off and he bends like Gumby. I don’t know if he can convert speed to power in that pass rush. He has the best burst and get-off in this entire draft. He’s a sub-package, designated pass rusher on Day 1, just like Aldon Smith was in San Francisco.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Being compared to Gumby is not something I’d want people to use as a comparable compliment, haha.

      How about Neo from The Matrix?

    • except aldon was 6’4 263 with 35″ arms and 10″ paws

      http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/aldon-smith?id=2495487

      And like I asked ages ago when GP posted Floyd film, do we really want to spend #11 on a subpackage Bruce Irvin type (yet alone TRADE UP for one)?

      I’m trying to stay positive, but holy crap, it ain’t easy.

      • MB30SD

        This. All I wanted was no wtf moments. .. and what is the exact thing I get….

        Smmfh

      • Ososfan

        I’m with Ya there Butch.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Was there already an inkling to Tunsil’s behavior and such because some of the tweets from jeff and his associates almost refer to such before the revelation unless the timestamps are timezone difference?

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      The tipoff was at the combine where nkemdieche (or whatever) revealed that Tunsil was with him when he decided to go patio diving while high.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Well, if we stay put at 41, we might get Ward. Feeling that Pace will want to put the pass-rushing thing to bed by drafting Ward.

    A number of teams could draft Henry. If Ward’s gone maybe they go with Alexander at CB or Bell at S?

    5. Myles Jack, OLB, UCLA (6-1, 243, no 40 time)

    13. A’Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama (6-3 5/8, 307, 5.2 40)

    16. Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson (6-5, 277, 4.86 40)

    18. Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama (6-1 1/4, 242, 4.72 40)

    21. Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama (6-2 7/8, 307, 5.2 40)

    30. Kamalei Correa, DE, Boise State (6-2 5/8, 243, 4.69 40)

    32. <Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama (6-2 5/8, 247, 4.54 40)

    33. Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas (6-4 7/8, 250, 4.66 40)

    34. Jason Spriggs, OT, Indiana (6-6 5/8, 301, 4.94 40)

    36. Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State (6-4 1/4, 273, 4.63 40)

    38. Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson (5-10 3/8, 190, 4.47 40)

    39. Sterling Shepard, WR, Oklahoma (5-10 1/4, 194, 4.48 40)

    40. Jihad Ward, DE, Illinois (6-5 1/8, 297, 5.11 40)

    41. Chris Jones, DT, Mississippi State (6-5 3/4, 310, 5.03 40)

    42. Austin Johnson, DT, Penn State (6-4 3/8, 314, 5.32 40)

    43. Cody Whitehair, OG, Kansas State (6-3 3/4, 301, 5.08 40)

    45. T.J. Green, S, Clemson (6-2 1/2, 209, 4.34 40)

    47. Jonathan Bullard, DT, Florida (603, 285, 4.93 40)

    48. Vonn Bell, S, Ohio State (5-10 3/4, 199, 4.5 40)

    49. Su’a Cravens, OLB, USC (6-0 3/4, 226, 4.64 40)

    50. Tyler Boyd, WR, Pittsburgh (6-1 1/2, 197, 4.5 40)

    51. Darian Thompson, S, Boise State (6-1 7/8, 206, 4.69 40)

    52. Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor (6-0 5/8, 311, 5.05 40)

    53. Devontae Booker, RB, Utah (5-10 3/4, 219, no 40 time)

    54. Maliek Collins, DT, Nebraska (6-1 7/8, 311, 5.03 40)

    55. Kendall Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech (5-11 1/2, 187, no 40 time)

    • BerwynBomber

      Can’t imagine Ragland. We addressed ILB in FA.

      Don’t be shocked if Pace goes QB in round 2, though my bet is DL or TE.

      • Irish Sweetness

        If Freeman or Trevathan get injured? We need two dependable ILBs at all times, no?

        DE is likely. DB next. He wants shooting if he goes TE with the names on that board though.

        • MB30SD

          Dude, raglan has an enlarged heart. Gains Adams style man. Noooooo thanks

          • Irish Sweetness

            Removed. Only really interested in Jihad or Henry anyway …

            The skinny on that TJ Green doesn’t sound too promising either. If they’re both gone I hope we get Cravens and put him back at Safety.

            STRENGTHS: Born to be a football player. Combines smarts, instincts and toughness.Will not hesitate to jump into the mix and have proven his ability to make full­-time conversion to linebacker. Outstanding with his hands. Always first with his punch into blocker’s frame and unlocks instant arm extension to keep himself clean. Showed ability to engage blocker, shuffle with square pads and disengage for the tackle. Scouts believe he will comfortably carry over 230 pounds in pros. Big boy production comes from always choosing play-making option over passive route. Loves to play on the other side of the line when possible. Sticky hands and can take the ball away if you give him a shot. Posted nine interceptions in three years. Aware in zone coverage, but has some blitz value. Will have immediate impact on special teams coverage.

          • MB30SD

            I’d be down with him in the 3rd

    • No to ROBORAG

      Dodd would be my 1st call.

  • chitownproud85

    “I am upset the Bears traded one of two fourth round picks to get the guy they wanted.” They will miss that practice squad body quite a bit, eh?

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    Some of you are a little pissed right now. Before the draft all I asked for was not to have a WTF moment. Does Floyd qualify as a WTF moment? Nope, not even close. He was rated by many as the 2nd best OLB behind Jack(who continues to fall because of injury). He was “mocked” fairly high to a lot of teams. Is he the perfect pick or player? Nope. But from the scouting reports he has above average instincts, range, and pass rush abilities. Some have stated he is a “Black Shea”. I don’t see it. It is one thing to be drafted to be a DE and be undersized, and a totally different thing to be an OLB who is a little lean. Shea wasn’t even projected to be a 1st rounder by many. This isn’t a pick by a GM trying to prove he is smarter than everyone else, it is just a solid pick. We traded up for him for a reason, from what is being reported Fangio really wanted him and Pox obliged him. Some will say and have said “But we gave up a 4th to move up.” We had the extra 4th to give up so why not use it to get the player that Fangio wanted. So now it is on Fangio to coach him up and put him in the position to succeed.

    Maybe I am being a little bit naive, but it is a solid pick. We went from having the worst set of LBs in the league to having one of the best set in one offseason, at least on paper. So what if he only plays in sub packages, that means he is going to be put in the position to be successful and help our D, until he matures/grows into a full time starter. A lot of players over the years have done the same. This is supposed to be a very deep defensive draft, so there are still going to be good players in the next couple rounds to help our DLine and our DBs.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      How do you ask for something out of us that is an impossible goal to set for yourself?

      We all have difference in opinions and having a WTF moment is always going to be one of them.

      My point is this: In rebuild mode, why only go up two spots? A top 10 athlete should at least most of the time as a defender scream STUD. To give up picks to move up from 11 to 9 is not really that “wowish”. If the Bears were near consistent contenders, then going from 11 to maybe a 3rd or 4th pick, then go for it.

      Why in the world would we need to hear “Let Fangio coach him up!”? The only position player that needs true coaching up at such high picks are mostly QBs.

      Defenders should be ready to eat on gameday if they are 1st rounders mostly, and I don’t see this pick being the right size and instinct ready come gameday.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        just my opinion. I did not have a WTF moment on the pick so i don’t know how it was an impossible goal to set for myself.

        As far as moving up, you have to have teams to trade with. Maybe they tried to move up, it was stated that Dallas had a couple offers on the table, so the Bears could have been one of them. We gave up a 4th to move up to get someone the DC wanted, I don’t see anything wrong with that. 4th rounders usually end up as Special Teamers.

        When I said it is up to Fangio, I meant it is up to him to put him in a position to succeed. I don’t want to see him decide that Floyd should now play as a DE or a DB when he is clearly a LB. If he ends up playing in sub packages the first year, so be it, he won’t be the 1st top10 drafted defensive player to do so in the first year.

        I don’t think there will ever be a 1st round pick that will make everyone happy. My opinion is that Floyd is a solid pick.

  • Martin Bell

    Next year the Bears will be looking for a fast linebacker. ESPN gives a thumbs up to the first 8 choices and the first thumbs down to number 9, the Bears.

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