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Bears Building Team That Could Take Control of NFC North

| May 18th, 2016

Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers (12) is sacked and hit by Indianapolis Colts inside linebacker Jerrell Freeman (50) in second half action. The Colts defeated the Green Bay Packers 30-27 on Sunday, October 7, 2012, in Indianapolis, Indiana. (Sam Riche/MCT) ORG XMIT: 1129744

Since taking over before last offseason, Ryan Pace and John Fox have completely rebuilt the Bears defense and it should result in a team that contends for the NFC North in both the near and long term.

I don’t care what happened last year. The Packers are still the team to beat in the NFC North. They have the best coach, the best quarterback and – while they’re certainly declining – I’m not ready to proclaim the Vikings or any other team the new King of the North. But what the Bears did to the Packers on Thanksgiving wasn’t a fluke and now they’re building up their talent level to do it consistently. At the very least, with a good defense, they’ll give themselves a consistent chance.

Since 2012, the Packers are 8-15 (including the playoffs) against top-10 defenses with Aaron Rodgers as their quarterback. Simple math will tell you they’re 34-7 against teams that don’t have top-10 defenses. Ironically, two of those losses came against the Bears.

The Bears have overhauled their defense. Since Pace and Fox took over they have 10 new starters and 18 of the top 22 players on the depth chart are new. Since last season, the Bears have changed five of the seven players in their front seven with the only other two being in their second years with the team. The only holdover from the previous regime on their defense is Kyle Fuller and he’ll be battling for his job this year.

The formula the Bears are using has worked for the other two NFC North teams the last two years. The Vikings went from having one of the worst defenses in the league to one of the five best in two years with Mike Zimmer and they won the NFC North last year. The Lions had one of the five best defenses two years ago before losing their best player and are now staring another significant rebuilding project in the face.

Why do the Bears have a better chance of sustaining success than the Lions did and the Vikings do? QB play. In years in which the Bears have had a scoring defense that ranked inside the top 20, they’ve won 67.5 percent of Jay Cutler’s starts.

Obviously, the moves have to work out. But given Fox’s history and the impact defenders they were able to add in their first year, there’s reason to believe that the Bears are building a team that will contend now and in the future.

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  • The Yes Guy

    YES YES YES YES YES YES!

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      …. and now he’s spent

      • Sactowns#1

        I’ll have what he’s having.

  • Captain Obvious

    Sorry, I can’t let this go. I’m putting this front-and-center in this thread so I can let the poison out. Trump and his apologists like willbest rile me up. This is my reply to willbest with his assertion that somehow Trump will fix the Obama failing that has allowed the US to be “challenged by everyone, everywhere”:

    China has been claiming territory in the South China Sea (not the Pacific) for literally decades.

    We didn’t “give” Iran anything. We un-froze their accounts that were frozen because of sanctions. It’s their money. Our personnel–who were in Iranian waters–were detained for a short time. All the personnel were returned, unharmed. No tense negotiations, no loss of critical intelligence equipment, like with China in 2001 under GWB.

    “Putin playing the US… in Syria”? What the fuck? What did Putin get out of his adventure in Syria? What did we lose? Syria was a clusterfuck before Russia got involved, it stayed a clusterfuck, and it will be a clusterfuck for a while yet.

    And, by the by, all indications were that Putin went into Syria to pressure the West into dropping the sanctions (that are crippling Russia’s economy) as a result of Russia invading Ukraine. Those sanctions are still in place. Putin gained NOTHING.

    “The whole begahazi [sic] deal”? How is that “everyone challenging us”? That was an Islamist terror attack timed to coincide with demonstrations about that video. The consulate was understaffed due to Congressional budget cuts. So if you want an axe to grind about Benghazi, take it up with your Congressman. In the end, that Islamist terror attack is/was no more of a challenge than has been coming from the Middle East for decades.

    “Our utter in ability [sic] to maintain control in Iraq”? Lessee here… GWB started that war and it was his timeline for us to relinquish control and restore sovereignty to the Iraqis. We did not “have” control in the first place (and shouldn’t have had it to start with) to maintain. What would you have preferred, a second invasion? I did two tours in Iraq; I don’t feel like going back. Perhaps you’d volunteer? You’re a lawyer; JAG corps is a pretty cherry gig.

    “You must not get out much…. I am assuming I don’t have to go grab links for any of that for you.” For being a lawyer, you don’t seem to have a grasp the whole idea of who has the burden of proof when making an assertion. YOU stated that thanks to President Obama, “everyone” was challenging the US, “everywhere.” You provided 5 examples thus far. Two pre-date Obama’s presidency. The other three are directly attributable to GWBush’s policies.

    “House of Saud threatening to sell off its US treasuries” is a result of Congress passing a bill allowing lawsuits against the Saudi government regarding possible involvement/funding/complicity by members of the Saudi government in 9/11. All indications are that the bill is DOA in the Senate, and it will absolutely be vetoed by the President. So, again, an example of CONGRESS doing something, not another country “challenging” us. And just about everyone with a brain calls the sell-off threat a complete bluff, as Saudi Arabia would not only take a bath financially, but would introduce big tensions into their relationship with their strongest ally and arms supplier.

    “North Korea is always saber rattling.” Yes, they are. ALWAYS. Going back DECADES. Nothing new, no challenges because of Obama.

    And then you wrap it up by arguing that VW rigging their emissions equipment is part of “everyone” challenging us “everywhere” because of some supposed weakness on the part of Obama?

    Jesus Tittyfucking Christ, you are dense.

    You made a blanket accusation that “the US is being challenged by everybody everywhere,” with the implication that this is due to a failure on Obama’s part, and that Trump will restore America’s supposedly waning power.

    You don’t get to say, “Oh, just Google stuff and you’ll see what I’m talking about.” You make an assertion, you damn well better have some proof to back yourself up. You did NOT give proof that EVERYONE was “challenging” the US EVERYWHERE, and in fact, most of your examples were either things that have been going on for years, or things that are directly attributable to the actions of GWBush or the GOP Congress.

    I typed all this because I’m sick of the all-encompassing bullshit allegations that get thrown out by the know-nothings. “America is losing!” as our military spending and economic growth keep increasing. “Trump will make other countries respect us!” as leaders of those very countries express very publicly their worries about working with a President Trump.

    There’s a reason Trump speaks (and tweets, or twats, or whatever) at a 3rd-grade level. It’s the same reason why he floats an idea that would wreck the US–and world–economy (buying back US debt at a discount): he fundamentally doesn’t understand what you need to know to run this country, and he covers up that ignorance with know-nothing platitudes. But the BEST platitudes. Absolutely CLASSY platitudes.

    I served my country. I bled for my country. Trump deserves neither my service nor my blood. And people who parrot his know-nothing arguments deserve nothing but my scorn.

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      so, you’re saying you don’t want to make America great again?

      • Bobby Douglass

        It’s early, but you’re hitting 2 for 2 so far.

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      • Charlie Sheen for VP!

        #TigerBlood
        #Double-Down
        #AidsPornCokeVote

      • Scharfinator

        Hee heeeee!

    • Bender McLugh

      awesome. Well said and thanks for your service.

    • Cap-V-Will reenactment.

      Finish him!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TvEQRYK8Js

    • Jeffrey B Rosenstein

      The White house admitted They made up the story about the video. The State department spent MILLIONS on Electric cars because of phony climate change. They didn’t increase security for political reasons

      while Trump wasn’t my first choice My grandmother would be a better president that The man who went around the world with his apology tour.

      yes it was Iran assets we froze but releasing them helps them with arming terrorist throughout the world.

      If you would get your head out of Obama’s Ass you might see the world as it is moron. thank you for your service though

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        welcome to the blog. but there is really no need to be calling people names especially in your first couple posts.

        • Scharfinator

          Easy come, easy go I would suppose.

      • Captain Obvious

        No one “made up” any story about Benghazi. There were conflicting reports, and some administration officials went on TV with talking points based on incorrect information. We’ve had 3 Congressional committees investigate this and all reach the same conclusion: there was no “made up story.”

        Where did the “State departement [spend] MILLIONS on Electric cars”? What are you smoking? And “phony climate change?” Seriously. 97% of scientists agree and you still think it’s phony? You think gravity is phony, too? And even if the deniers are right, you know how great an idea electric cars are? My parents moved to Arizona a few years back, and have solar panels on their roof. They reserved one of those new Tesla Model 3s. So late next year, they plug their electric car into the sun and never pay for gasoline again. They’ll be laughing their asses off when gas returns to $3+ a gallon, too.

        “apology tour” is RWNJ fantasy. I won’t even spend any time trying to disabuse you of this; you’re off the deep end.

        And if you think Iran was waiting for their assets to be released before they’d fund terrorist groups, you’re delusional. Oh, and by the by, Iran hates ISIS and ISIS hates Iran. Ditto with Al Qaida. So our #1 and #2 terror threats don’t have anything to do with Iran.

        I like how you, without ever saying a word to be previously, immediately judge me a “moron,” but then thank me for my service.

        Fuck you, pal. I didn’t wear the uniform in Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan for you and your delusions. I served for the America that’s already great. And if you can’t give our Commander-in-Chief the respect he deserves simply by being legally (and overwhelmingly) elected to the office, then you can take your oh-so-sincere thanks and shove ’em up your ass.

        • Sactowns#1

          Chicken hawks will thank you to your face and screw you from behind.
          The vitriol from a certain sect of old white guys towards our President is astounding and almost laughable in its comedic, over the top, fashion.

        • Wobbly Pop

          You know i REALLY wanted to just let this alone as this is a SPORTS forum ! But you are so arrogant that only you can be correct ! And act as if you have knowledge we do not ! Well sir here is the ACTUAL timeline put together from transcripts , emails , conversations and more from Mrs . Clinton , Obama , WH staffers and more ! Now i do not have time and this is not the place to debunk all of your horse shit , but this should at the very least show folks your full of yourself and full of shit ! Now take it off the site and get back to sports !

          by John Nolte23 Oct 20157,646

          On
          September 11, 2012, by 6 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, the attack by a
          terrorist group associated with al-Qaeda was still underway against our
          consulate and CIA compound in Benghazi, Libya. By this time the
          whereabouts of Ambassador Chris Stevens were unknown, but the State
          Department had been informed of the attack and that Sean Smith had been
          found dead.

          The following is a verified timeline of what then-Secretary of State
          Hillary Clinton, President Obama, the White House and various
          administration agencies knew, when they knew it, and the now-verifiable
          lies told by all concerned for more than a week afterwards.

          Thanks to new information uncovered by the Benghazi Select Committee,
          we now know for a fact that, at least in private, Clinton was telling
          the truth — telling others that an anti-Muslim YouTube video had
          absolutely nothing to do with what she immediately knew was an
          organized terror attack, and one that resulted in the murder of four
          Americans, including our ambassador.

          Nevertheless, publicly, the White House, Obama, and Clinton spent
          more than a week afterwards covering up what they knew was the truth.

          The Night of the Attack, September 11, 2012:

          6:07 p.m. – “The State Department’s Operations
          Center sends an email to the White House, Pentagon, FBI and other
          government agencies that said Ansar al-Sharia has claimed credit for the
          attack on its Facebook and Twitter accounts.” — Source: FactCheck.org

          *****NEW –> 8:00 p.m. – Via telephone, Clinton
          spoke with Libyan President Mohamed Magariaf. In a description of the
          conversation found in State Department email, she said:

          We have asked for the Libyan government to provide
          additional security to the compound immediately as there is a gun battle
          ongoing, which I understand Ansar as Sharia [sic] is claiming
          responsibility for.

          “Ansar al Sharia is al Qaeda’s affiliate on the Arabian Peninsula. So
          several hours into the attack, Mrs. Clinton already believed that al
          Qaeda was attacking U.S. facilities.” Source: Wall Street Journal

          10:08 p.m. – Referring specifically to Benghazi, Hillary Clinton issues a statement blaming a YouTube video for the violence. She makes no reference to terrorism.

          Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a
          response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United
          States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious
          beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to
          the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never
          any justification for violent acts of this kind.

          Source: New York Times

          A little more than an hour later, Clinton privately tells her daughter the truth.

          *****NEW –> 11:12 p.m. – Via an
          email (no one was aware of until it was discovered by the Benghazi
          Select Committee), Clinton emails her daughter Chelsea: “Two of our
          officers were killed in Benghazi by an Al Queda-like group.”

          September 12, 2012

          1. In a speech at the State Department, again
          referring directly to Benghazi, Clinton told the world that the terror
          attack was “a response to inflammatory material posted on the
          Internet.”:

          Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior, along
          with the protest that took place at our Embassy in Cairo yesterday, as a
          response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. America’s
          commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our
          nation. But let me be clear — there is no justification for this, none.

          Source: FactCheck.Org

          *****NEW–> 2. That same day (less than 24 hours
          after the attack), according to newly discovered documents uncovered by
          the Benghazi Select Committee, Clinton told Egyptian Prime Minister
          Hesham Kandil that the attack “had nothing to do with the film” and that
          “it was a planned attack — not a protest”:

          We know that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack – not a protest.

          3. During a White House Rose Garden speech, President Obama connected the anti-Muslim video to the Benghazi violence:

          Since our founding, the United States has been a nation
          that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the
          religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to
          this type of senseless violence. None.

          Source: White House

          4. That evening Obama tells Steve Kroft of “60 Minutes:”

          Kroft: Mr. President, this morning you
          went out of your way to avoid the use of the word terrorism in
          connection with the Libya attack.

          Obama: Right.

          Kroft: Do you believe that this was a terrorist attack?

          Obama: Well, it’s too early to know exactly how this
          came about, what group was involved, but obviously it was an attack on
          Americans and we are going to be working with the Libyan government to
          make sure that we bring these folks to justice one way or the other.

          Kroft: It’s been described as a mob action. But
          there are reports that they were very heavily armed with grenades. That
          doesn’t sound like your normal demonstration.

          Obama: As I said, we’re still investigating exactly
          what happened. I don’t want to jump the gun on this. But you’re right
          that this is not a situation that was exactly the same as what happened
          in Egypt. And my suspicion is, is that there are folks involved in this,
          who were looking to target Americans from the start.

          Source: FactCheck.Org

          6:06 p.m. – “Beth Jones, the acting assistant
          secretary of state for the Near East, sends an email to top State
          Department officials that reads in part: “[T]he group that conducted the
          attacks, Ansar al-Sharia, is affiliated with Islamic extremists.” — Source: FactCheck.Org

          September 13, 2012

          In prepared remarks at a State Department function, in direct
          contradiction to what she privately told the Egyptian Prime Minister
          just a day earlier, Hillary Clinton again blames the anti-Muslim video:

          Unfortunately, however, over the last 24 hours, we have also seen violence spread elsewhere. Some seek to justify this behavior as a response to inflammatory, despicable material posted on the Internet.
          As I said earlier today, the United States rejects both the content and
          the message of that video. The United States deplores any intentional
          effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. At our meeting
          earlier today, my colleague, the foreign minister of Morocco, said that
          all prophets should be respected because they are all symbols of our
          humanity, for all humanity.

          Source: FactCheck.Org

          September 14, 2012

          White House Press Secretary Jay Carney tells the White House Press
          Corps “we have no information [Benghazi] was a preplanned attack” and
          again blames the YouTube video:

          QUESTION: At Benghazi? What happened at Benghazi —

          CARNEY: We certainly don’t know. We don’t know otherwise. We have no information to suggest that it was a preplanned attack.
          The unrest we’ve seen around the region has been in reaction to a video
          that Muslims, many Muslims find offensive. And while the violence is
          reprehensible and unjustified, it is not a reaction to the 9/11
          anniversary that we know of, or to U.S. policy.

          Source: White House

          September 16, 2012

          United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice goes on all the Sunday shows. What she told Bob Schieffer, is what she told everyone:

          But based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is as of the present is in fact what began spontaneously in Benghazi as
          a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo where, of
          course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy
          — sparked by this hateful video. But soon after that
          spontaneous protest began outside of our consulate in Benghazi, we
          believe that it looks like extremist elements, individuals, joined in
          that– in that effort with heavy weapons of the sort that are,
          unfortunately, readily now available in Libya post-revolution. And that
          it spun from there into something much, much more violent.

          Source: FactCheck.Org

          According to FactCheck.Org, Hillary Clinton did not publicly refer to
          Benghazi as a terror attack until September 21, more than a week after
          she privately told her daughter and the Egyptian Prime Minister the
          truth.

          Just weeks before the Benghazi terror attack, in the waning days of
          his 2012 re-election campaign, Obama sought to reassure the country that
          he had Al Qaeda “decimated” and on the run. By covering up the truth of
          the Benghazi terror attack, by blaming it on a spontaneous protest
          caused by a video and not terrorism, with the help of a DC media eager
          to see him re-elected, Obama and Clinton effectively muddied the waters
          surrounding the truth of this preventable tragedy.

          The DC media’s lies continue to this day.

          Although the Select Committee uncovered two smoking gun documents
          proving Clinton knowingly and repeatedly lied to the American people in
          2012, today the DC Media is covering this fact up beneath a narrative
          celebrating her performance before the committee and the verifiable lie
          that the committee failed to come up with anything new.

          When confronted with this fact, Politico’s Glenn Thrush summed up the DC media as a whole: “Meh.”

          • Sactowns#1

            We will file this under “old man yells at cloud”. Thank you

          • Wobbly Pop

            Or file it as ” head up keister ” as it seems where most of his info is coming from !

          • Scharfinator

            What is it with the loons and the offseason? Are these just fudgie trolls in disguise?

          • Wobbly Pop

            I would suggest NOT asking Captain Obvious as he may go on a rant on the fudge packers ties to ISIS ! I prefer to use cut and paste info from legit sources and list them ! Now like i said back to sports / Bears chat ? Now keeping with that I sorta agree with the article but think we just may catch fir a bit sooner and do well this year ! I do like the D move wise but am worried about back end guys ! Glad Rolle is gone and have hope for Amos to keep getting better . Fuller ??? and new adds have some promise BUT are rookies !
            Looking at offense much promise and much concern in passing game ! Oddly the guy i am curious about is Braverman ? He has some things loking at the tape we have not had in a slot guy for some time and other we never had ! My biggest concern is the Oline ? Riddle me this … IF we are trying to get younger , then why bring in 2 guys in advanced football age ? I see Whitehair as a solid move but the 2 vets Pace brought in make little sense age wise !

      • Wobbly Pop

        Bravo ! Thanks for being of clear enough mind to actually READ and FOLLOW the CORRECT pattern / Path the moron in the White house has followed ! Wish others did the same . But perhaps by laying it out as you have the less inclined to read and find actual facts for themselves will pay attention ! Oh and for the record i am a veteran myself but have been disgusted by Obama , Pelosi , Reed , Durbin and most of the DOJ ! They have done everything imaginable to tear at the fabric on what has made the country great ! And i for one cannot wait to see them all leave office someday soon !

      • Scharfinator

        I’d also suggest using proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation when insulting people. Otherwise, it tends to be a bit hypocritical, no?

      • AlbertInTucson

        The name calling does nothing to advance your point about this completely,inept, disgraceful administration. A Federal Judge in Texas just told the DOJ it’s lawyers are liars and must take an ethics course.

    • willbest

      Oh you are still on about this? I thought this was over when you decided to become uncivil.

      You probably are already aware of this, but maybe not, your hatred of me isn’t something that is going to occupy a whole of my time. You can’t have an opinion anymore without 30% of the country hating you for it.

      I do have a few quick hits though

      1) You will find no statement made by me even remotely to the effect “Trump will fix Obama’s mistakes”. But you are free to try. I don’t have faith in Trump to do anything but be better than Hillary, which is an abysmally low bar.

      2) I am glad you realized that I didn’t not actually blame Obama. Well other than the part he is the current president so he is responsible for whatever by default. But as you pointed out being tested by everybody isn’t especially new. The question is always what to be done about it.

      3) I never said America is losing. You would need to have an objective in mind in order to make a statement with regards to success. I doubt I will know what he was trying to accomplish until I read his post-presidency book.

      4) Trump speaks at a 3rd grade level because that is sadly the state of the electorate.

      5) Since you were able to identify the various events I referenced without a link, you are being a petty snot. You and I both know they wouldn’t have convinced you of anything, so they would serve no purpose.

  • TBC

    Counterpoint:

    The Bears Still Suck

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      Jane you ignorant slut.

      • Sactowns#1

        The man es en fuego.

  • Foggy Notion

    I don’t get the love for McCarthy, he’s way overrated and prone to bonehead playcalling. He’s like Shanahan with Elway, and even with the best player in the league he can’t make much progress in the playoffs. I hope the pack keep extending him, because as the North tightens up, he won’t get an automatic playoff bid anymore.

  • Bender McLugh

    love that picture, Andrew. Nice choice!

  • CanadaBear

    McCarthy is not exactly Knute Rockne. Even Lovie pantsed him back in the day. The Fudgies D isn’t scaring anyone. The BiQueens D is good but unless Teddy grows a pair and starts taking more chances, they will have a good record but won’t go anywhere if they make the playoffs. The Loins aren’t any better than the Beloved but they’ve won 6 in a row against them. You know Caldwell isn’t scaring anyone.

    If the D steps up (a lot), ST’s keeps progressing (they were worst in the league to start the season and were, at least, mid pack by the end) and the O can make up for the losses of Forte and the Black Uni, the Bears have a shot at a WC. That’s a lot of ifs and the Bears rarely have everything go right for them. I’m still predicting 8-8.

    • The honeymoon is over. We’ve given POX a pass in ‘rebuilding’ last year, but now we deserve results.

      2 full football offseason is enough to turn around dysfunctional teams around (See SEA – Pete, ARIZ – , SF-Harbs).

      We might have been a bit more bereft of talent than some other turnaround teams, but I’m expecting nothing less than a WC appearance.

      We’ve done well in the draft (so far) and have killed it in in FA.
      Relatively easy schedule.
      (now just need a bit of inj luck)

      If we don’t reach the WC or at minimum 9 wins, I will consider this season a failure.

      • CanadaBear

        We’re basically a couple of wins apart. We see the same things but you’re a little more optimistic than me. Hope you’re correct.

      • willbest

        Exactly. Unless Cutler misses multiple games, the Bears better be playing a meaningful game in week 16 or Pox will have clearly underperformed.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yup. You should be in the playoffs the season before you win the Lombardi. The full-on Lombardi season is next year, so we should be around 10-6 and in the playoffs this year .. if these are the right people in charge.

    • chitownproud85

      Logic is my favorite tool, too. Too many “ifs” to start putting the Bears at the top of the North. Can they finish .500 first? I get yelled at for this logic all the time, but I just dont understand that. Lets let our boys get to .500 before we start talking about “competing” for the North. We assume the D will be better. No way in hell I’m going to assume the O will be(no Forte/Slauson/Uni/Gase). So where does the ascent from 6-10 to North competitors come from?

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        a lot of close games last year with crap defense, injuries last year at key positions like WRs, “easier” schedule this year. Makes it easy to jump to the conclusion that we can win 4 extra games. Besides it’s the off-season it is the time to be hopeful, and not a cynical bastard.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        A defense comprised of real NFL starting quality talent. I worry about the loss of Forte (and Slauson, from a depth perspective), but Uni and Gase – not so much.

        • chitownproud85

          Not a fan of assuming anything, but you are right about the defensive talent – there is ZERO question that they have real football players in their ranks this year, and that should reflect on the field. I’m definitely concerned about the lack of Uni(how many goats do we have to sacrifice to ensure Zach stays healthy? 10,000?) but I’m with you about Gase. I’m not sure we’ll even notice, but I dont think we can assume it will help to go from a “top head coaching candidate”(LOL) to a guy nobody gave two fucks about before he just kinda fell into this job. It feels too much like it’ll just be a wash between the O and D, and we’ll be looking at better “luck” getting us to .500. There HAS to be fewer injuries, right? RIGHT?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I sure hope so. Having both starting wide receivers healthy for most of the year would be a huge step up, in and of itself. Miller should not have to carry the passing attack with those two on the field.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Props to AD – I think this was the best put together article he’s written. Lean and mean.

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  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Freeney is still looking for a job, isn’t he?
    Not that I’m advocating to pick him up.

    • If we were a player away.
      We’re not.

      Wasn’t he with the Cards last season? Maybe they’re saving $ for Honeybadger

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Yes, and agreed – he’s 36. He was productive in limited action last year, but getting up there. Not sure if he’s looking to get paid this year or looking for a ring.

        • CanadaBear

          I think he’s looking for both but in the order you listed.

  • “Why do the Bears have a better chance of sustaining success than the
    Lions did and the Vikings do? QB play. In years in which the Bears have
    had a scoring defense that ranked inside the top 20, they’ve won 67.5
    percent of Jay Cutler’s starts.”

    Nice gems.

    Informative.

    I was the first to suggest following the Cowboy’s blueprint. Run. Ball control. Limit Qb. Play opportunistic D.

    Major reason was that Cutty and Romo have a history of imploding.

    Cutty over the season, and Romo in key moments.

    But now Cutty seems to have reigned himself in, though the formula should still work.

    For the first time in a long time I feel like the regime is close to the time proven formula with an actual plan and ability to innovate going forward.

    Last season was another step.

    We always play the Pack close (the only real threat), but for ONCE the Bears FINALLY closed out a game against them (At their house on Favre Night on Primetime, no less).

    What I read about the Bears afterward made me just as happy. They felt dissed. That it was a Pack homecoming. That everyone was just waiting to crown their ass.

    Bear pride kicked in, and they said. “Fuck you”.

    Love it. It might be that turning point going forward in which many of the core players bought in, and a new culture was born:

    A WINNING culture.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Well said – this year should show whether that game was an aberration or the turning point.

    • CanadaBear

      The problem is they got up for that game and won. Then proceeded to lose 4 of 5 to finish the season.

      • It did seem like they won the SB then just let off.
        But that’s what bad-mediocre teams do.
        Like the Rams. Always beat Seahawks or Cards, then lose to suck ass teams next 2-3 weeks at home.

        This team just has to get used to winning on a weekly basis.

        I expect that light to click around week 3!

        • CanadaBear

          Hope you’re right. I’m going to remain conservative with the projected record until I see some obvious signs of improvement.

          • I def can understand that, but given all the moves we made, my confidence in Fangio, coupled with our schedule

            http://www.chicagobears.com/gameday/schedule.html

            I just don’t see us losing a lot of those close games.

            In argument can be made that if we just had Alshon last year, we could’ve won 2 more games, and if Gould didn’t choke, that’s maybe like 3 more right there.

            We’re improved across the board (and deeper) playing a more favorable schedule (compared to last season’s murder’s row).

            Only real reservation on my part is the OC.

            Still, we’re a 9+ win team.

            8-8 team to me is like the Falcons, Bills, Chargers, or Rams, and I absolutely think we’re better than that.

          • CanadaBear

            All of you guys that like the draft usually are more optimistic about the rookies than me. Unless it’s a WTF pick like CD. Plus you like Langford more than me. I think they will really struggle replacing Forte and the depth at TE will be an issue. Loggains? Who knows? I saw a disturbing trend last year where the team came out flat most games and put them in an early hole.

          • They did come out like zombies more often than I’d like. That’s why I’m not entirely sold on Albino-Lovie, but as long as he just kinda stays out Loggain’s and Fangio’s way, then I think we’ll be alright in that dept.

            I’m not sold on Floyd. The next 6’6 240 pass rusher who becomes a stud will be the first.

            But I do like Whitehair, Bullard and Howard.

            Howard esp is a nice insurance plan for Langford with many scouts predicting he’ll take Langford’s load outright.

            TE, we’ll see. Bennett essentially hafl-assed for two years. They’re not essential. Can prolly scoop up a vet midseason if Miller gets hurt and not lose all that much.

            Sprinkle in some White, McPhee, Freeman, Trevathan, and maybe one of those other POX picks blossom, and I’m rather optimistic.

            The bigges hump is getting used to winning. That’s something the beloved are not used to and which can only come after some hard fought weeks.

            But I think they’ll turn that corner sometime during this season.

            If not, bring out the doomsday clock…

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            If White and Jeffery become a dynamic duo, that lessens the importance of the TE next year even more…so there’s that.

          • chitownproud85

            “if”

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Nice laconic response. +1000 blog points if you can name the historical reference.

          • Captain Obvious

            Bears coming out flat–especially on offense–has been going on for years now. Remember the season opener against Indy, when they fumbled the first snap of the game, and then came back to beat Indy by 40-something?

          • Yeah, I think we had a streak of not scoring a TD in the 1st Q, if I remember correctly.
            Our D (with a bunch of scrubs) really overachieved and held those games close, esp early on.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Are you thinking of Forte’s coming out party?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Of course, when we do get to the Superbowl, we score a TD in the first six seconds, and then lose it.
            So, we’ve been fcuked either way.

          • CanadaBear

            I give the Black Uni/TE’s a little more credit than you do. Totally agree about developing winning mindset. I really like Fox for righting the ship and his coaching staff. Just wish he wasn’t so conservative and they didn’t come out so consistently flat. Can’t wait for the games to start!

      • the problem was all the guys they had hurt. That lack of talent caught up to them down the stretch.

        Though not a ton changed, honestly. They still played a bunch of close games, it’s just more of them went against them late in the season than in the middle part of the year. But that’s more bad luck than anything.

        • CanadaBear

          It wasn’t just bad luck. They played like crap down the stretch. Lots of injuries but that’s football. Robbie shit the bed, Fox showed Lovie-like tendencies to get more conservative when just the opposite is needed and the D kinda fell apart.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            I thought they played bad down the stretch because there were a bunch of JAGs on the field, not capable of making plays. There were times last year I had to google guys names during games cuz I had know idea who they were. Tendencies tend to become conservative when you don’t have the right players.

          • CanadaBear

            No doubt about the players. I’m not so sure about Fox. His M.O. is to be conservative and I didn’t see much to dispute that last year. Anywho, they certainly didn’t have the horses last year.

    • I did a more in-depth stats study on this last year. My findings: “While not conclusive by any means, this data suggests that coaches of a team with Jay Cutler as their starting quarterback should focus on defense and turnovers, which can be limited in part by running the ball more. This is not exactly earth-shattering news, but it is refreshing to see numbers match up with what common sense seems to dictate. It should also make Bears fans happy to think that Chicago’s coaching hires this offseason indicate a desire to focus on defense and running the ball.”

      http://www.dabearsbeat.com/2015/03/24/how-can-the-bears-win-with-jay-cutler/

      • Yes, when I saw what the Boys were doing, I instinctively envisioned a blueprint for us, esp since the Cowboy’s D was middle of the pack at best.

        Only problem – they invested in their Oline much more than the Bears (starting with Tyron Smith), so it would take us more time.

        However, POX seems to be following the blueprint.

        They have invested a 2nd, 3rd rounder on Oline in back to back drafts. They moved Long back to OG where he is a lock PB. They brought in Massie and obviously believe in Leno.

        They believe they’re set, to an extent. Then they draft two starting HBs in back-to-back drafts.

        All signs point to controlling the line, clock, run.

        Then they went hunting for pass rush while solidifying the run d and coverage (ILB esp).

        Brought in McPhee. Promoted Young who obviously was an upgrade over Allen.
        Still are sticking with Washington who flashed. And naturally, drafted a pure pass rusher in the top 10.

        All this to help the secondary actually create turnovers (releasing Rolle is probably addition by subtraction at this stage).

        They loaded up on the secondary to see who can be a play maker and not just a JAG.

        In other words, more pressure – more chances for a guy to make plays that change momentum and return the ball to our theoretical time consuming grinding O.

        To me, this regime ,by their actions and not merely lips, have really revealed their vision to us.

        Control the Oline. Run. Pass rush. Turnovers = wins.

        It’s almost a 180 to what Emery/Trestman were implementing.

  • CanadaBear

    I find this appointment to be a real head scratcher. Runyan was one of the dirtiest players in the league.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15577624/nfl-adds-jon-runyan-serve-disciplinarian-field-infractions

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      he knows all the dirty tricks.

  • Good stuff as usual, Andrew. Couldn’t agree more. GB has owned this division since 2009, but two nasty defenses being built inside of it will hurt them.

    Should still be good (still my pick to win the NFCN this year), but won’t likely be going 6-0 or 5-1 against the division every year anymore.

    • CanadaBear

      After losing the home game against all 3 NFC North opponents last year, I think they will be lucky to go 4-2 against the division.

  • Sactowns#1

    Question: The Bears still have $24.5 mil in cap space (5th highest in the league and 2x what he Packers have) Do they make a move before the season starts and if so what player/position do they pick up?

    • extend Long. Roll the rest over to next year, besides what you need for in-season moves.

      • EnderWiggin

        I was under the impression that cap money is to be spent, and anything rolls over – it poofs?

        • If I remember correctly, teams have a certain amount of years in which they must spend X-amount.
          So they can roll it over for (3 seasons?) but must spend it when time is up.

          I think that’s why the Jags and Raiders went on a Brewsters Billion spree. They had to spend it cuz their time was up.

          We might have like 1 more season to roll it over without penalty.

          But I’ll let the contract guys like NB, Data or Will detail that process.

          • EnderWiggin

            gotcha

          • and that’s also about cash spent, not cap hits, so signing bonuses all count for that year, for instance, instead of being spread out over the length of the contract.

            I think that might be why we saw teams like JAX give out some huge signing bonuses this year.

          • On 4 year rolling average, they must spend at least 89% of the cap, I believe.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Correct

      • willbest

        Bears owe Long $1.7 million this year and $9 million next year. I can’t imagine they have all that much of an incentive to extend him. They could tag him for 2018 and he still wouldn’t be the most expensive guard in the league in 2018. It just seems like there is no incentive there when you effectively have him locked up for the next 3 seasons without making a deal unless he is going to blow your mind with some stupidly team friendly 6 year deal.

        • you do it early and that lets you spread the money out. Moves some of it to now, when they can afford it, theoretically making it cheaper 3-4 years from now.

          Plus he’s already 27, you don’t want to give him a huge, long contract 2 years from now.

          • It might also be more prudent NOW that he’s a RG. Cheaper than if he has to play OT.
            Plus, Bears have great relationship with him now. Who knows if that’ll last.
            On top of that, lock him up b4 another chump team throws outrages $ to next top OG.

          • willbest

            I did some digging and apparently all O-line use the same tag number
            which seems nuts, but that is 13.7 million, so I will retract my statement that he can be tagged in 2018 for anything remotely affordable. Which means they won’t wait 2 years to do a deal.

            It also means signing him this year isn’t completely absurd assuming he is willing to agree to something close to a 5-year $47 mil (9.5 million) per year, $25 million guaranteed. Which is what Osemele is getting less what the Bears have him locked in right now.

            I don’t know how inclined he is to do that. He will make several million more if he hits the open market but then he is risking injury.

          • Osemele is also a yr younger.
            My only concern with Long is that Massie bombs.
            Long switches to RT, kills it. Wants RT $$ (or even LT if he ends up over there).

            OG $ is only gonna rise with the cap.

            Bears should do what I do in Madden Franchise. Lockup franchise players for cheap while they can for 7 yrs.

            Honestly, as of right now only Long deserves that type of contract.

            Everyone else has too many question marks.

          • willbest

            I have been meaning to upgrade my Madden game. The last one I have is from 2009. I thought about getting one last year but I haven’t upgraded to a PS4 yet. Perhaps Santa will bring the boys one this year for Christmas.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Paying a guard 13.7 million would be crazy, so they should tie him up as a guard ASAP.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    Whisenhunt and the Chargers snapped up Zach Metzenberg, rapey or non-rapey.

    • Fingery, by most accounts.

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        The Giants and the Bengals also came calling, and fast.

        So he’s 0-10 as a starter but his size and arm mean he will have suitors.

  • Speaking of the Boy’s blueprint. They’re on NFLN right now.
    I like these reruns.
    Better than 100 best punts…

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    Ravens fined for having the rooks run drills in pads, a violation of the CBA.

    John Harbaugh, slave trader.

    • Scharfinator

      Well he only has 30 days to return them, so he’s gotta test them out.

  • Michael C. Slater

    That’s why this is a blog. Use a Colts picture cuz Bears can’t stop A-Rod! HAHA ! Everything in a blog is true, untill they play games!~M

    • Bender McLugh

      That’s our new LB in the picture big guy. Nice try though.

      • Michael C. Slater

        Well at least you are trying to replace Urlacher….

        • Cutty Badger

          wait one fucking minute here, you didn’t know that guy in the picture was the new Bears middle linebacker?? Holy fuck, what a dumb fucking comment.

          And you couldn’t piece that picture of the new bears addition at linebacker to the title of the fucking blog post “Bears BUILDING team that could take control of the NFC North”?????

          Fucking amateurish Mikey. Go log into Super Bowl Nation.

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      Michael, i want to congratulate you on your avatar and your initial post on Da Blog.

      First of all, do not listen to detractors who say your avatar makes you look like Hitler in his Austria painting years. They are just jealous.

      Secondly, I think the wisdom of “everything is true until they play games” should indeed be this blog’s new motto.

      • Scharfinator

        Did Hitler have a fat retarded brother?

        • SC Dave

          Great great grandson, methinks

    • beninnorcal

      Cheesy? Using your real name now? At least you stop spamming Dablog as Lori.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      woohoo another literate Packer Troll.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    MB –

    Call of Duty? Bleh. Try Call of Booty!

    It’s like they said “what is the perfect videogame for MB’s lifestyle?”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUFjNiusLEw

    • MB30SD

      daaamn… playah!

  • SC Dave

    You guys never learn about feeding trolls

  • Bleacher Report’s Jason Cole reports the Bears and OLB Willie Young are discussing a two-year extension.

    This is quite a turnaround for Young, who requested a trade
    out of Chicago at the deadline lastseason.Not a traditional fit in a
    3-4 scheme, Young found his footing down the stretch last year,recording 5.5 sacks over the final seven games. With Young, Pernell
    McPhee, Lamarr Houston, androokie Leonard Floyd all ready to rush the
    passer, the Bears’ remade defense has a chance to take astep forward
    this season.- Roto

    • I trust Jason Cole’s “sources” about as much as I trust Aaron Leming’s.

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        Cole disrespect! Cole Slaw! Oh man that’s Cole! Cole Fusion. Cole Cocked.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          No Trickle?

      • Here’s some more Cole Slaw.

        Bleacher Report’s Jason Cole reports Dolphins first-roun OT Laremy Tunsil has a “pre-arthritic” ankle condition that contributed to his draft-day fall.

        According to Cole, “some say” Tunsil’s ankle issue is “worse” than now-Jaguars LB Myles Jack’s knee condition that caused him to tumble from a probable top-five pick all the way to the top of the second round. Tunsil’s ankle doesn’t sound troublesome at the moment, but apparently could shorten his career. For now, it’s not too concerning for Tunsil or the Dolphins. – Roto

        And along the same lines. Here ya go, Irish

        Raiders signed No. 44 overall pick DL Jihad Ward to a four-year contract.

        There was some concern coming out of the draft Ward would need an arthroscopic knee surgery which would knock him out of the offseason program, but he has practiced without limitations so far. A versatile prospect, Ward will compete for a rotational role as a rookie. – roto

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        But Leming has access to all those NFL Insiders, like Shefter’s twitter account, and Ian Rapoport’s twitter account

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      “Joe Flacco will never win a Super Bowl”. – Lamar Woodley, 2011.

      People say stupid shit. He may have realized he can actually extend his career playing standing up, as he’s a technique rusher to begin with.

    • willbest

      I don’t know, makes sense if you don’t want to leave and you think perhaps going down to a roll player might get you a bigger pay day in the long run than lining up for 70%+ of a teams defensive snaps.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Huge. We wouldn’t be the same without Willie on board, and ROTO shorted him by a sack – he had 6.5.

    • Cutty Badger

      A healthy and happy Willie Young brings swag to the D. Let’s hope he signs and buys in.

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  • Bobby Douglass

    Disqus spam. Spam spam eggs and spam. And in a reply to me yet. Bleagh.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      haha! i saw that. and she even upvoted her own post.

      • Bobby Douglass

        Was it the same bot? I thought it might’ve been a different one. I don’t like spam.

  • For Packer trolls who want Bears crushing Puke

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guG2vd-uAfY

  • That Guy

    We won six games last year. I’d like to see us get to ten this year. We were 1-7 at home; that’s the first place I’d look to get better. That, to my mind, is a realistic path to success.

    If we go to 5-3 at home and 5-3 on the road, we’re a solid team, we probably make the playoffs, and we are much improved by any standard. But that doesn’t put us in control of the division.

    • Scharfinator

      We have to figure out how to get our knuckle dragging fans to shut up when we are in the red zone.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      That home record last year was just stupefying.

  • The Tonight Show. Let’s hope it’s more Carson than Chevy.

    The Chicago Sun-Times’ Adam Jahns said Charles Leno is the Bears’ starting left tackle.

    It makes sense after Chicago failed to add any competition of note. Leno struggled at left tackle last season, but the Bears seem to believe he can develop into a quality starter. “He plays much better on the left than right,” offensive line coach Dave Magazu said. “A lot of that revolves around some of the things, technically, being more dominant on his right hand than his left.” The Bears appear to have improved the interior of their line, but Leno remains a big concern. – Roto

    Interesting that Leno was indeed much better on the left. Then again, he was garbage on the right, so that might not be saying much.

    Guess we’ll find out if skipping on Tunsil was the right choice.

    • That Guy

      Skipping out on Tunsil was the right choice if he gets himself suspended for smoking reefer before his rookie deal ends. From the sound of things, that won’t happen and the whole thing is overblown, but that is a risk the Bears didn’t want to take. We’ll see if they were right to be cautious.

  • ManGod

    Damn….never knew football was so fucking political! So all you Trump haters, Obama lovers and McCarthy Queens step down from the podium and let’s get back to FOOTBALL.

    • Irish Sweetness

      DaBearsBlog ‎@dabearsblog

      I love golf more than any other sport and today I’m embarrassed to be a golf fan.

      DUDE!

      • Scharfinator

        Sometimes I think Jeff tweets with the regulars in mind – just to fuck with us.

      • MB30SD

        “I love golf more than any other sport…”

        Like dude, I’m embarrassed for you because of that first statement.

        • Not least of which because golf is NOT a sport.

          Might as well claim “I love ping-pong more than any other sport..

          • willbest

            Ping-pong is more of a sport than golf. ping-pong is man v. man. Golf is man vs. the environment

          • Sactowns#1

            So then is skiing/snowboarding a sport?

          • willbest

            Shouldn’t they more properly be categorized as feats?

          • MB30SD

            sad

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Yeah – that was a head turner.
        Really, el Jefe?

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      God has spoken.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Oh, fuck off.

      • Cutty Badger

        Haha, he’s got some good posts in his history so I’m giving him a pass. He’s been on other sites so maybe doesn’t know about this little weird blog.

        • MB30SD

          fucking weak 1st post

          • Cutty Badger

            haha, I was going to unleash my Jericho on him but quickly checked and it seems that it wasn’t his first post here so I made the hamsters stop running on my old broken Romanian Jericho so it wouldn’t launch.
            It was weak sauce to be sure but since it wasn’t his virgin post he was spared.

          • MB30SD

            meh, whatever. a weak post nun tha lez

            Love your Jericho. (NTTAWWT)

    • Sactowns#1

      “McCarthy Queens”? Am I the only one stumped by this?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Took me a minute, but I’m assuming he’s talking about Packer trolls.
        Or maybe it’s some really obscure reference to Eugene, who the fuck knows…

        • Sactowns#1

          Yeah he was talking political figures and then through that one in there. I was like, hu? Did old Joe come back from the dead? Oh wait, he did and his name is Trump. He just doesn’t have as much of a focused hate laser.

  • Captain Obvious

    OK, Kool-Aid moment:

    D-line has guys who are position fits for a 3-4, and who are young and good at what they do.
    OLB? We have a stable of guys who will rotate through. Some combination there will produce pressure.
    ILB? Pace fixed this through FA. Guys who know how to play the position, cover, and who won’t run around in circles looking lost.
    S? Pace hit with Amos. If he hits 1 for 3 on his DB picks this draft, Safety is no longer a worry.
    CB? Sorry, the Kool-Aid isn’t enough here. We’re thin, even if the starters have good years.

    So the defense is much improved, and virtually unrecognizable from the Trestman Era.

    Offense? I won’t break it down by position, but the worries are: can Alshon and White stay on the field in live up to their potentials? Are we too thin at TE? Will Langford and the platoon replace Forte?

    We’re looking at a MUCH improved team. For this team to love more than 7 games would mean something major goes wrong.

    My “out of left field” bet for the year is that White goes over 1200 yards receiving. There. I said it.

  • willbest

    Jeff is embarrassed by an all male golf club that hosts an Open once a decade? I don’t consider that an embarrassment (so long as Muirfield is a consensus top 10 golf course), but even if it were, I doubt that would elevate the PGA into the top 10 in terms of serious problems in professional sports.

    This years award winner has to be the Olympics which is bringing people from all over the world into a Zika hot zone for a couple of weeks.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      -THE- Zika hot zone…at least the Russians will have a convenient out for their athletes with all the pending PED bans coming down the pipe.
      That’s planning.

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        Fun fact:

        “Zika Hot Zone” is the 3rd track on the 1972 hit LP: Chicago II.

        It comes after “Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?” and “25 or 6 to 4”

        • MB30SD

          and the name of my new garage opera/deathmetal/acapella band

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Can I play cowbell?

          • CanadaBear

            Did you get worn out playing with Blue Oyster Cult?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Never – that’s my cardio!

          • CanadaBear
          • MB30SD

            yes

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            What’re you doing, checking dabearsblog with a sat phone strapped to the dash of a Land Rover, cases of biltong in the back?

          • MB30SD

            mmmmmm… biiiiiiltong! I’ve been eating that shit like it’s going out of style my maings.

            Back in Cape Town already, Zim was awesome.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            sneak some through customs and ship me some!!!

          • MB30SD

            hahahaha, yeah right. I do bring back 6 bottles of the best wine in SA… of which there is AMAZING wine. so yeah, get your ass out to SD this summer.

      • CanadaBear

        Knowing the Olympics, if Russia has any athletes that are in contention for a medal from the pool of cheaters, the Olympics will drag their feet until after the Olympics are over and then magically rule everything is A-OK.

    • CanadaBear

      I like how Jeff is outraged. What a shocker that a club full of rich, old, white guys wouldn’t be inclusive.

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        My experiences with rich, old, white guys is that they are assholes.

        • CanadaBear

          Indeed! Not sure what it was like for you as a kid but one of my best friend’s was friends with a rich kid. I was hanging out with them and we went to the rich kids house. His mother made me wait outside. I was about 10-12. I haven’t been a fan of rich people ever since.

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            did you smell? were you a smelly kid, Canada?

          • CanadaBear

            Probably but that guy’s mother wasn’t close enough to get a whiff. She took one look at me from about 20 feet and said I’d have to wait outside. I stood there like an asshole for about 30 seconds and then left. The rich kid wasn’t even embarrassed about it.

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            they learn to suppress the shame of acting superior from an early age

            The doorman at the building the Koch brothers live in New York has some fascinating stories about how the Koch’s taught their kids that the servant people didn’t need Christmas presents.

          • CanadaBear

            Being a cheap bastard is really an attractive trait among the super rich.

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            it shows that they “get it” – they have gone “full Ayn Rand” and believe that if all of the doers and makers left the planet, it would collapse without them.

            There’s a trader at my firm who had a copy of Atlas Shrugged on his desk. Smug ass trader type, uses heavy product in his hair. It was so typical.

          • CanadaBear

            I see those assholes in restaurants and they are constantly bitching about the service so they can justify a terrible tip. It’s not that they are cheap, just principled.

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            Who is John Galt?

            Hopefully the name of the car thief that jacks your Benz, dickwad.

          • I read Atlas Shrugged and it’s the worst piece of shit on both a philosophical and literary level that I ever read.

            Rand was trying to be Sartre. Didn’t work.

          • Full Rand!
            US Economy went Full Rand, 2008

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwpnH_OTZio

          • willbest

            But at the same time they donate $100 million or whatever it is to the various hospitals in NYC. A bit odd in that.

          • CanadaBear

            Lots of rich, cheap people donate to charities for various reasons. If their name is on the bldg, that was one of the reasons. Same with other donations that are more about PR than helping out. They are plenty of rich people that are generous (so I’m told). I’ve just never met any of them.

          • Richest guy I know is totally cheap.

            Like u said, always finding something to bitch about so he won’t have to tip.

            Intelligent. Even charming. But everything’s a competition with that guy. Unbearable after any amount of time.

          • willbest

            People that have the drive to achieve at that level are just wired differently. I know Harvard studies their grads long term (40+ years they have been interviewing some of them). I wonder if they have any insights on to what that difference is and where it comes from.

          • SC Dave

            And you think Carter’s little forays with a hammer are any less self-serving

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            C’mon Dave – it’s Habitat for Humanity fer chrissake, give the cynicism just a 30 second timeout!
            And in short, NO, I don’t think they’re as self-serving as donating relative pocket change to get your name on a building. Either way, though, it’s charity so who should turn their nose up at it?

          • CanadaBear

            Really Dave? If you can’t tell that guy is sincere I don’t know what to say.

        • Make America Great Again!

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            I was reading Holly Madison’s account of what it was like to fuck Hef.

            It was gross.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m guessing death was referenced more than once.

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            The grossest part (and there were many) is that Hef lets his poodle shit all over his bedroom and doesn’t clean it up, so the room reeks.

            That alone made me want to vomit and run him over with a zamboni.

          • CanadaBear

            I used to watch the Girls Next Door (it was uncut in Canada so there were lots of boobies) and there were dogs everywhere. I love dogs but for fuck’s sake clean up after them. Esp when you have a paid staff.

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            I want to revise my vote for the grossest thing.

            Now I think that the semi-circle they would form around Hef’s bed and chant they would do until he came is the sickest thing. That really beats out the dog shit.

            It’s hard to decide.

            Either way, the idea that he’s so old he couldn’t outrun me on my Zamboni and I would read off the names of my favorite playmates while he slowly was crushed under the ice paver makes me happy.

            “Miss September, 1996!”
            (crunch)
            “Miss April, 1988!”
            (gargle)

          • CanadaBear

            Better living through chemistry. I’ll bet those girls were chanting their hearts out so Hef could finish and they could go do anything else.

          • willbest

            I don’t know if there is a higher level of perversion among the wealthy/powerful, or if it just appears that way because its publicized when they get caught.

      • willbest

        Lots of groups of guys that aren’t inclusive. We just don’t have the money to build a clubhouse somewhere. And certainly not some place nice enough that anybody else would want to use it for something. The thing is, the girls that could afford to get into that particular club, can afford to build their own.

        • CanadaBear

          I don’t think affordability is the point.

          • willbest

            Its not. And it isn’t even that it is an exclusive male space. Its that it is a desirable exclusive male space.

            The psyche of the female is such that exclusion is a form of punishment. If you watch them behave amongst themselves it is in fact the ultimate form of punishment. That is why they get themselves into a tizzy over such things. What I don’t understand, however, is why any man would give a flop when it has zero bearing on the quality of life.

          • CanadaBear

            You and I see women differently.

          • willbest

            You don’t seem them using in-group out-group with any regularity?

          • CanadaBear

            Actually no. My mother was the most important person in my life and my 3 sisters and my wife are by far the most important people in my life, now. Whenever I think of women as a group I mostly think about how they’ve gotten the short end of the stick. Different strokes.

          • willbest

            I didn’t say they weren’t important. I said they concern themselves far more with social inclusion than men do. But as I said it has to be a desirable social group. There isn’t this large groundswell to ensure equality among garbage collectors. And no female is trying to bust up my neighbor’s monthly poker night.

            I am leaning toward this being genetic because I have witnessed in-group out-group in girls as young as 4, which seems quite young for learned behavior of this magnitude. You hear it from the mom’s too. “Oh I just tell my little Amy (not a real name) to go play with the boys rather than deal with it because they are so much simpler”.

          • Sactowns#1

            And here we begin to see what’s at the heart of your Trump support.

          • willbest

            I don’t think believing in differences between the way men and women interact equates to support for Trump. And I don’t support Trump enough to give him money. I gave Romney money, though he demonstrated with the whole #NeverTrump thing that was a mistake.

            I like my politicians to disappear when they are cooked. I can make an exception if its your brother or son or wife you are pimping, but every time I see Carter or McCain or Gore or Romney’s take on something it rubs me the wrong way.

          • CanadaBear

            I think Habitat for Humanity is very happy Jimmy is helping out.

          • willbest

            Well part of the issue with Carter is, I think its a dick move to stick a microphone in front of a 90+ year old. But its when he goes off on foreign policy that it bothers me.

          • CanadaBear

            Not a great president by any stretch but the best person of any prez in my lifetime.

          • Sactowns#1

            Best Christian for sure.

      • I never get why ppl always get their panties in a bunch over “exclusivity”.

        If old rich white guys don’t want to hang with others, so be it. As long as it’s not federally funded.

        If feminist don’t want men in their club, so be it. There’s plenty of af am/latino/asian clubs on campuses along the same lines. I never see the problem (as long as no federal $)

        IF MB doesn’t want straight men in his NTTAWWT turkish bathhouse, who are we to judge!?

        • CanadaBear

          I’m certainly no advocate. The whole point of those clubs is exclusivity. Personally I don’t give a shit at all. I’d rather be in solitary confinement than hang out with rich, white guys that are sitting around talking about money and golf.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I totally agree. I’ve known very few scratch golfers who I actually wanted to spend more than 30 seconds talking to.
            Dart and pool players on the other hand, that’s my crowd.

          • CanadaBear

            Since I don’t like golf there’s no way I want to listen to people talking about it. People talking about money is probably my least favorite topic. I just find it crazy boring. There’s never any real info that you can use, just BS about the holy grail.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I quit playing at 17. I grew up in and around golf cubs. Couldn’t stand golfers. The second club I was at, we built the course with our own hands – but even the working class men that built it sought their elitism there. I remember when they only let women play on Tuesdays.

    • Captain Obvious

      So you think people haven’t been traveling to Brazil since the Zika outbreak began there? You think people haven’t been traveling all over the rest of the world where Zika has been resident for decades?

      And bad news for you, buddy. Puerto Rico is now a “Zika hot zone.” It will be on the mainland this summer, whether or not you stop the Olympics.

      • willbest

        By your logic we shouldn’t ever alter anything to inhibit the spread of disease because “whats the point”.

        There are low inconvenience travel precautions that can be imposed, such as more aggressive health screening on people traveling from Brazil and PR to the US mainland that can impede the spread of the disease. However, if the disease is literally everywhere then we really do end up with a “whats the point” scenario.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Or to avoid the worst consequences, do what the Australians are doing and unleash a torrent of prophylactics on the athletes. The Olympic Village is full of cross-continental frolics.

          • willbest

            Yes, I have read that about those events. Apparently putting a bunch of high testosterone men and women who are kept in near seclusion while training their asses off for months to years into a low supervised environment results a lot of fornication.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I am MBHAP’s permanently damaged sense of decorum.

          • Cutty Badger

            …or just don’t have sex for a fucking week. God damnit we’re just animals.

          • CanadaBear

            Easier said than done when you’re in your 20’s and someone is ready, willing and able to trim you, RIGHT NOW!

          • Cutty Badger

            I managed to hold off from time to time all through my 20’s….now also throw in the threat of having a kid with a shrunken head or contracting fucking Zika??? Yeah, I can keep it in my pants. Ha! Whatever happened to an old fashioned handy???

          • CanadaBear

            You’re a cut above, Johnny!

          • Cutty Badger

            I like my sex clean and without mini headed kids.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Picky, picky.

          • willbest

            Get yourself into a Smart RISUG trial beforehand.

          • willbest

            The point Butch is making is that the Olympics is that its probably the greatest collection of fit females on the planet. Sure the Soccer players and Basketball players can just pick a girl they like off of TV and their publicist will go get them Michael Douglas or Jay Cutler style. But for your track and field blokes this is the best collection of tail they are going to ever be around.

          • Cutty Badger

            I’m at work, should I click on this?

          • willbest

            they are clothed. But they aren’t family portraits.

          • Cutty Badger

            I will refrain until after work.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            If it’s Butch – generally, the answer is no.

          • It’s a picasso “rose period” portrait of an elegant woman softly murmuring whilst vivaldi plays in the background…

        • Captain Obvious

          Consider that there’s no diagnostic for Zika now. Consider that for most adults who contract it, it is no different from a cold or mild case of the flu. Now consider that there is no immunization, no treatment, no cure, no way to test if a person has been exposed, and that the disease can be transmitted by sexual contact as well as by at least two different species of mosquitoes.

          You. Cannot. Stop. This. Disease.

          No one has stopped it in the DECADES it’s been in Africa and Asia. Plenty of people are risking it traveling to/from the 5th largest country in the world already. Yes, the Olympics mean more people will be traveling to/from and spending time in Brazil. But according to the World Bank, in 2014 Brazil had over 6 million tourist arrivals http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/ST.INT.ARVL

          The IOC predicts Brazil to have an additional half million visitors due to the Olympics. So the Olympics will increase Brazil’s yearly tourism arrivals by… less than 10%. Two months’ worth of tourism in a normal year outpaces what the Olympics will be. How long has Brazil’s Zika problem been going on? Started in early 2015. So, we’re over a year into the Zika outbreak.

          Yeah, the Olympics will have little impact compared to the 15+ months the outbreak will have been going on by the time the Olympics start.

          “more aggressive health screenings” won’t do jack shit for an illness for which there is no test and is virtually indistinguishable from a cold.

          And, Mr. Lawyer, you cannot legally prevent American citizens from Puerto Rico from coming to the mainland, even if a guy comes in named Zika McZikason–“aggressive health screenings” or not.

          The only way to slow the spread of this disease is to eliminate two species of mosquitoes from the planet. Good luck with that.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Nova Scotia has a case now.

  • Got my annual email from the Bears telling me I can get pre-public-sale access for buying tickets to this season’s games. Of course, there’s the catch of forcing me to buy as many pre-season tix as regular season tix.

    I don’t take them up on the offer, because fuck them and their preseason nonsense, but maybe one of you guys wants the code?

    • Yo, my phantom mistachioed brethren. How goes it over there?

      • It’s good, man. Mustache is gone, though. The boy’s 7 months old now and started grabbing / yanking it. He doesn’t understand “don’t do that,” so I had to shave it off. Sad, but it’ll grow back one day.

        Haven’t been following much off season stuff. It’s funny to me when people get up in arms over the draft. No one knows if these days are gonna be hits or misses. Gotta wait until the pads come on and the games start. That’s when I switch from mets blue/orange to bears.

        • willbest

          They have a death grip at that age.

          • it’s ridiculous how strong he is. whoever said “easier than taking candy from a baby” must’ve come up with that expression because they knew how hard it was to pry something from their fingers.

        • Mets!?

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okXhAC78d4Q

          Ha, yeah, I remember u saying u shaved the stache, that’s why I call u phantom stache (like a phantom limb).

          I know when I shave my beard I still reach up to play with it, but it’s gone.

          7 months. Wow. Maybe u can get him packer diapers so he can take a dump where it belongs.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    Current roster

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/2016/05/18/chicago-bears-post-draft-pre-otas-depth-chart/ar5oh6n/

    All hail KlingKong.
    I can’t see Johnathan Anderson sticking.
    I also thing Ego be gone.
    I have totally quit on Sherris McMannis
    Nobody has been brought in to challenge Robbie G.

    • I held out some hope for McMannis too, but he totally blows at D. He’s an excellent SP teamer, though I hope one of the secondary picks pans out and renders him unnecessary.

      DE: Akiem Hicks / Will Sutton / Cornelius Washington / Kenton Adeyemi*

      NT: Eddie Goldman / Terry Williams

      DE: Mitch Unrein / Jonathan Bullard* / Ego Ferguson / Keith Browner

      I have no idea which way they’re going here with some of the players.

      Locks. Hicks, Goldman, Bullard
      ?: Sutton, Ego, CornWash, Unrein (FB of destiny)
      PS: Williams, Browner, Kenton

      McPhee, Young and Houston will also put their hand in the dirt.

      How many Dlinemen did we ride with last season?

      – ugh, no competition for Robbie. Did we at least bring in real competition at P?

      • CanadaBear

        They did bring in a punter. Since they didn’t bring in a kicker I’m guessing the coaches are blaming Robbie’s issues on the snapper/holder.

        • In some odd ways, kickers are treated like QBs in that coaches don’t like rattling their confidence by bringing in real competition. I’ve noticed that by the time most teams bring in another K, the incumbent is usually all but out the door at that point.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Any word out of rookie camp that was of interest?

    • CanadaBear

      I never read anything of interest. Maybe that’s a good thing. At least nobody is done for the year.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        As long as everybody makes it out with their bones intact, that’s a step forward from last year, I suppose.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    And speaking of rich white guys who play golf…it’s good to be Phil.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/golf-devil-ball-golf/sec-sues-phil-mickelson–alleging-he-profited–931k-on-insider-tip-142611394-golf.html
    Can one of our stock professionals explain the difference to the SEC between what he did and what Martha Stewart did (other than make ALOT more money at it)?
    http://coveringbusiness.com/2012/05/15/what-martha-stewart-did-wrong/

    • CanadaBear

      The biggest differences are Martha has a vagina and outwardly, is not very likeable.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        ding ding!

        • CanadaBear

          My niece was Martha’s personal assistant for a few months. She came down with the flu and Martha fired her. Funny story, Martha was on a book tour while my niece was working for her. My mom went to the book signing and got Martha to sign it. After Martha fired my niece my mother threw the book in the trash.

      • willbest

        Amusingly men receive criminal sentences that are 63% longer for the same crime.

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/men-women-prison-sentence-length-gender-gap_n_1874742.html

        I don’t know the story, but its possible that they can’t prove Phil knew it was inside information, even if they could prove he profited on the information he received.

        ie. the text said “I have a major hot tip you should go big on. Dean Foods. Trust me, this is legit”
        vs. “My buddy is on the board of Dean foods, this play is going to be huge”

        Now its entirely likely the credibility of the tip was provided over the phone, but they are both going to be pleading the fifth on that one. Since it sounds like they already got Walters dead to rights, I suppose they could offer him a deal, but then the prosecutor is probably looking at that going, I want the worst person off the street the longest.

        • CanadaBear

          You don’t think they singled out Martha?

          • willbest

            Here is the thing about prosecutors, they have a lot of discretion. Way too much. It turns them into Lords of their little kingdom, and if you rub them the wrong way, they will pursue you to the ends of the Earth.

            So it is possible the government was looking for a highly public person to make an example of, but what is more likely is Martha did something to annoy him.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse
    • Cormonster

      Did Phil get caught in a lie? That’s what got Martha nabbed.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Well, that was the second part of her problem, but separate charges.
        I think CB and will probably are correct – she pissed off the prosecutor.
        Her second set of charges were for misleading investors in her own company by claiming innocence on the insider trading charges.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Goldman-Sachs just paid a $5 BILLION dollar fine to settle a case against them

          But no names were named and worse, nobody went to jail.

          If they paid $5B to settle, you know

          A) They stole twice that amount and

          B) They’ll just re-steal another $5B to make-up the fine.

          Piss. On. That.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse
    • “Rather be a retread coach than a retreat GM because those don’t exist”

      Interesting. I wonder why that is?

      The pool of GMs is arguably smaller, so one would figure GMs would be more retreaded.

      • Also, that podcast is almost EXACTLY what I suggested Jeff do, but since he lives in NY, would be hard to pull off I suppose.

        Some dynmaics I didn’t even consider.

        Since we’re practicing with the Pats…

        Bennett V Fuller, rd 2!
        One play Shea back in town
        And naturally, Cutty and McDaniels reunited once more!

        • CanadaBear
        • Cutty Badger

          The media will take this opportunity to stir up as much shit as possible….right before the season. Yes!!!
          The questions that will be asked of Cutler will almost certainly sour him to the media again and that’s exactly what the media fucking wants. So everyone can talk about his fucking demeanor.

          • CanadaBear

            Honestly I think the media has gone on to bigger fish. The only media that will go that route are the Chicago boneheads (Rosendouche, Haugh, etc.). The national media are onto the next big scandal which is surely a tempest in a teapot.

          • Cutty Badger

            I typed then deleted a post about something that happened today with Jeff Dickerson on ESPN because when I read it I knew GP would have created a new handle. Let’s just say it was representative of the bullshit media in Chicago.

          • CanadaBear

            I certainly include Dickerson in the Chicago Bonehead Pack. Just our luck that the Chicago site has him for their correspondent.

          • Cutty Badger

            I called in this morning because he was hosting a show with Jonathan Hood and I told the screener that having them both on at the same time was the polar opposite of Jordan Pippen.

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            I was thinking of making my new handle “In the Ghetto” with an avatar of Elvis.

          • Cutty Badger

            GP, I am having a friend construct the greatest Avatar of all time right now. It will be unveiled before the preseason just in time to throw down major bombing raids on trolls, tricks, marks, trick ass marks, mark ass tricks, scalliwags and SB Nationers.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “In The Ghetto” was written by…Mac Davis.

      • CanadaBear

        A coach can blame things on a bad GM. The GM probably hired the coach so he’s fucked for an excuse.

  • Sactowns#1

    Well gents I’m headed up to PDX for a weekend of food and craft beer with a couple buddies of mine. To top it off I get to see Charles Bradley tonight! Here’s him doing a Black Sabbath cover. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOK96TIMp34
    Have a great weekend and try to hold down the fort against the hordes of whitepowerwalkers aka Trump supporters.

    • Cutty Badger

      You should have just stopped with your first paragraph. It would have been a lot cooler.

    • CanadaBear

      Let me know how the show was. Love his voice.

  • Cutty Badger
    • MB30SD

      Jesus

      • Cutty Badger

        Fowler, Ramsey, Jack…..

        Could be murderers row on that D or just a bunch of what if’s and what could have been’s. Knee injuries and achilles injuries are no joke because the NFL NEVER gives you enough time to rehab it properly. The nature of the win now mentality combined with the length of time the injury takes to heal and the time between seasons simply make it impossible.

        • MB30SD

          jes

        • AlbertInTucson

          And if it was the Bears you KNOW it would be the “What Could HaveBeen” scenario.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Get him on that bicycle and ready to go…oh, he’s supposed to rehab? What a pussy.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    http://tinyurl.com/htok2hm

    Bears introduce a complex matrix of seat pricing. Now depends on opponent as well as location, and date is also factored in.

    • Cutty Badger

      After thoroughly reviewing the numbers….yup…Tradewind and screaming kids FTW.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Since I’m only buying them on the secondary market anyway, I would -guess- that it won’t make much difference to me. But still.

    • willbest

      prices have skyrocketed since I went in 2014. I doubt I will find it worth it to go to a Bears game any time soon.

      • SC Dave

        See them on the road

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    Can we make the next thread a Politics Free zone?

    • CanadaBear

      The good thing is most of it is contained in one section. Pretty easy to skip.

    • The Yes Guy

      NO

      • Cutty Badger

        Whoah bro. Whoah.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        did i seriously get The Yes Guy to say something besides yes?

        • The Yes Guy

          YES

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          (slow clap)

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      If anything remotely interesting happens this week, I’ll be happy to not tell will how wrong he is.

  • Bender McLugh

    Riot Fest this years is going to be bonkers.
    http://riotfest.org/chicago/lineup/

    Misfits original lineup, Zombie doing Astro-Creep 2000 in it’s entirety, tons of awesome bands.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    Here you go, Al.

    I needed to get this in before the new thread

    https://newrepublic.com/article/132628/goldman-sachs-settlement-5-billion-sham

    • AlbertInTucson

      And Hilary is attached at the hip to Goldman-Sachs to the tune of $250K per speech she made for them.

      • Captain Obvious

        Just out of curiousity, does taking money from someone always “attach you at the hip” to them?

        If not, what level of compensation allows you to be detached? If she had gotten $10K per speech, would she be OK?

        Just wondering. I painted houses in high school and made a couple grand one summer. Just want to know if I’m attached at the hip to College Painters.

        I would sincerely like to know how much money a person can be paid and not be beholden to whoever’s giving the money. My current employer has given me nearly a quarter of a million bucks, so I just want to know when he gets to tell me who to vote for.

        • AlbertInTucson

          You painted houses for a couple of grand and she got a quarter million per speech from G-S. and they get a slap on the wrist while she’s part of the current administration.

          Clearly, an OBVIOUS, reasonable, rational, comparison.

          Probably no correlation between countries that made handsome donations the the Clinton Foundation while she was Secretary of State and then got arms deals, either.

          • Captain Obvious

            I’m not saying anything about what she got. Honestly, it’s a bit paranoid to suggest that a corporation that paid a former Secretary of State (she did the speeches in 2013, after her last day as SoS–February 1st) and then got preferential treatment by an independent agency (DoJ and DoS have nothing to do with each other) in the same administration.

            But I’m serious about asking how much money a person gets before they’re bought and paid for.

            For the record, Clinton’s fees from Goldman-Sachs are in-line with her fees from other engagements–she made $250-$275k per speech. Apparently Trump charged $1.5 million per speech. Is he bought and paid for 5 times as bad as Hillary? Or does he get a pass because he’s a billionaire and thus $1 million is smaller fraction of his worth than $250K for Hillary?

            http://qz.com/441327/yes-hillary-clintons-speaking-fees-are-high-but-only-compared-with-other-women/

            Give me an example of a country that we sold arms to during Obama’s administration that we weren’t already selling arms to, and that same country donated to the Clinton Foundation.

            But seriously, how much money does a person have to take to be bought? Is it relative to his net worth? Or is it an absolute figure? That article I linked has speaking fees for a number of public figures. I just want to know who’s been bought.

          • AlbertInTucson

            You can have her. She’s been a lying, unethical POS since the days of Watergate. If you think she’s out to help anybody in this country but herself, fine. Vote for her.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            So, you’re saying there’s a chance…

          • Feel the Bern!

          • Captain Obvious

            I don’t know that she’s “been a lying, unethical POS since the days of Watergate.” I take great umbrage that she said she was fired upon in Bosnia–a clear lie. I don’t like that she felt qualified for elective office based on her experience as First Lady. I don’t like that she comes across as feeling entitled to positions of power. Come right down to it, I don’t like her.

            I’d vote for Sanders, but he is delusional enough to think that his “revolution” would somehow convince GOP Congressmen to vote for a slew of left-wing bills.

            No, my vote this year is an ANTI vote. I’m anti-Trump. The guy is a menace to democracy, an ignorant proto-fascist who floats ruinous ideas and then runs away from them when they face the withering scorn they deserve.

            I’d vote for a giant douche or turd sandwich before I’d vote for Trump.

            And sometimes a turd sandwich is what belongs in the oval office–until someone worthy of the office gets around to running.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Well, I DO know that she’s been a lying, unethical POS since the days of Watergate.

            She was fired from the Watergate committee for lying and unethical behavior. That’s 1972. It’s not a rumor, it’s fact.

            When a big issue comes up, she doesn’t know anything about it.

            From Classified emails to Bengazi to the Clinton Foundation to Whitewater to The Rose law Firm to Bill’s philandering that goes back to his days in the Governor’s mansion in Arkansas.

            She’s done more flip-flops than Mary Lou Retton to try and please any and everyone she speaks to.

            She’s convinced herself that she’s ALWAYS supported gay marriage despite clear video evidence that in the past she HAD opposed it.

            She’s become the Quintessential Washington insider which is EXACTLY what we don’t need.

            She’d have to improve by leaps and bounds to even qualify as a “giant douche or a turd sandwich”.

            To quote Adm. Rockwell Torre (John Wayne) in IN HARMS WAY: her record “already reads like a bunch of pig tracks”.

            OBVIOUSly you are not going to be convinced otherwise by me so save your keystrokes because you can’t convince me to support for that lying, money grubbing self-serving bitch.

            BTW, I live in Arizona.

            Do I want John McCain to run for another term in the US Senate?

            No.

            HELL, no.

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            She was not fired from the Watergate committee. Zeifman is a loon.

            http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp

          • AlbertInTucson

            Fine .

            Take it off the laundry list.

            Her record still reads like a bunch of pig tracks.

          • willbest

            Trumps 1.5 mil was from when someone would rent out a basketball arena and charge everybody that showed up concert money. I actually had to deal with a couple people associated with doing that at one point when he came through Chicago.

          • willbest

            Incidentally, the typical course is to collect afterwards. So you leave congress and then go get a 7 figure consulting job to play golf with your former colleagues. Or you are an FTC/NLRB member and afterwards you get a 7-figure salary in order for the company to be compliant with all the rules you and your buddies just wrote (which were written in concert with the company in the first place).

            At least in these cases there cannot be an enforceable relationship between the parties. The politician/regulator has to take it on a little bit of faith that the job will be there for them.

            When you are donating money to the Clinton foundation in order to clear business before the Sec. of State (Bill and Hillary collectively received $48 million while she was Sec of State for speaking engagements). And the President of Lybia, right after Benghazi sets up a meeting with Bill Clinton before meeting with Hillary, then that is a bit disturbing.

            It has also been demonstrated that Hillary’s Sec of State staff has been involved with fundraising for the Clinton Foundation.

            http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-new-clinton-documents-raise-questions-on-benghazi-clinton-foundation/

            Incidentally, Judicial Watch has been given the go ahead to depose all of Hillary’s aids about why they so blatantly violated the FOIA since they knew of HIllary’s private e-mail server as a likely source for these requests, but didn’t bother to look there, and depending on how those depositions go they might even get a crack at Hillary.

          • Captain Obvious

            Judicial Watch is a right-wing hit group. They’re the ones who pre-emptively started carpet-bombing justices presumed to be on Obama’s short list when Scalia kicked it.

            Everything and anything coming from Judicial Watch is suspect.

          • willbest

            Thus proving why its irrelevant providing you with sources. Everything has been lifted out of Hillary Clinton’s e-mails that they have received pursuant to an FOIA, and the actual e-mails are available for everybody. If this were just a hit job, it would have been discredited by Salon, Slate, and Media Matters and all those other sources you do trust . So sod on off unless you can back up your assertion.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Mediamatters has consistently debunked the stuff coming from Judicial Watch, I just don’t think you’re bothering to read it.
            Or maybe you are and don’t believe it. Who knows…
            http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/03/22/the-hill-uncritically-repeats-judicial-watchs-c/209471

          • willbest

            Mediamatters argues because the commitments don’t have to be monetary that the Hill and JW cannot assume that they are monetary donations. This is a rather weak counterpoint.

            As for the nonsensical position that she didn’t thank her donors, everybody in the room at that speech had pledged something to the effort. That is why they were Fing there. The issue is that her staffers at the state department were working in conjunction with the Clinton Foundation to secure those commitments.

            And of course all this is apparent from both the media matters link and the speech that both it and the HIll link to.

        • willbest

          We know why you were paid. The transaction is complete. It’s when you get 250k for 60 minutes, that transaction is immediately suspect. what the hell was her value added?

      • Captain Obvious

        Here’s the answer to my own question: ALL politicians are bought and paid for. It’s ridiculous to point to one politician and say “HE’s been bought” and think that another one is clean.

        Most politicians, most government workers, look at their time in government office as an low-paid internship for their post-government careers. Hell, even I cashed in. My first job after the Army was working for a defense contractor making 6 times my government salary.

        So on one hand, I don’t begrudge a politician raking in six figures for a speech. On the other hand, I don’t see any politicians NOT cashing in. They’re all greedy bastards. I don’t see a quid pro quo with Clinton–at least, nothing different from what every other politician does.

        And we won’t change the system until first we get campaign finance reform that enables our elected officials to do something other than raise ridiculous amounts of money so that they can stay in office.

        • willbest

          I agree with most of this, but the Clintons take this to a whole new level.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          This. Most congressmen spend ridiculous amounts of time fund-raising from the moment they come in. Sitting in phone banks, making call after call after call.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    First, a white supremacist…now…well, this guy just decided to pick as many felonies as he could.
    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/md-trump-delegate-indicted-child-pornography-weapons-charges-n577051

    • SC Dave

      The MSM witch hunt is so expected. They will leave no stone unturned to control the election.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        C’mon, Dave.

        • SC Dave

          Your emotional response does not change the content of my post. I defended nothing.

          The point is the liberal MSM will, as always, fall in behind the Democrats. Dont expect similar exposes of Clinton delegates.

          • Captain Obvious

            So, wait, the media should give the white supremacist and child porn aficionado passes because you say they’d look the other way if those delegates were for the other party’s convention?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Ah, yes, MSM witch hunt was such a measured comment.
            Not sure what you’re reading, Dave, but the (former) Clinton superdelegate that got jailed was all over the internet. And while his crimes were egregious, he certainly wasn’t a publicly avowed white supremacist or child diddler.
            Boo freaking hoo.

      • Captain Obvious

        Yes, it’s an unfair witch hunt when you have a white supremacist and a child pornographer.

        Will someone PLEASE THINK OF THE WITCHES!

    • willbest

      I explained previously these people aren’t vetted in the way say a truck driver is required to be. They are mostly people active in the local party. But this report doesn’t imply he would have failed a background check if it were run. At least the supremacist would have been found through a thorough background search, then again so would the wife of the San Bernardino guy. Pretty weak guilt by association. Especially since I was railed a couple weeks ago for the Clinton-Epstein connection.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        The supremacist one is more disturbing than the asshole that this particular story is about. As you said, it wouldn’t have taken a whole lot of looking to see who he is. Either way, calling stories about this stuff a witch hunt is just silly.

        • willbest

          No its certainly newsworthy. Just like the Hillary super delegate that is going to prison. Of course, she doesn’t select super delegates, the DNC itself does that.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Don’t disagree with that at all.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        With respect to Epstein, I’m sure Donald and his team don’t want to go there.
        Trump in 2002 –
        “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse
    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      Prison planet in 3D Cinemascope!. Starring the last 3 years of Playboy playmates.

      • CanadaBear

        Playmates in prison! That should get most straight guys harder than a woodpeckers lips.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    So, for Waffle’s new trick ass handle, I am leaning towards “Shark Exorcist” with this avatar:

    http://www.movielicious.it/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/shark-exorcist.jpg

    To me, it sums up the spirit of Johnny – keeping Packer trolls at bay and Cutler bashers down. He wards off the evil spirits that brings blogs into the satanic realm.

    • Cutty Badger

      haha, please superimpose a number 6 on the back and have a lit cigarette in the right hand with a wisp of smoke trailing off of it and a mini Jericho Missile system in the left hand.instead of the cross….or maybe a small Staley stuffed animal.

    • He should also have a bottle of Tradewind on the other hand

      • Cutty Badger

        I’m sending ideas to my people. I wish I knew how to do it myself but I’m kind of illiterate when it comes to that stuff.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      crap now i got to get a new design for my back tattoo.

      • MB30SD

        you mean my avatar and handle are out!?!?!?

  • Dangers of drafting “tweeners”

    Falcons sophomore Vic Beasley is expected to move to strong-side linebacker.

    The No. 8 overall pick last year, Beasley played defensive end as a rookie. It is a puzzling move for the Falcons, who will likely employ Beasley in a similar role to the one coach Dan Quinn used Bruce Irvin in Seattle. That means Beasley will still rush the passer on most snaps, but he will spend more time dropping into coverage. For a team desperate for a pass rush, taking your best rusher out of the equation for even 100 snaps does not seem like a sound plan, but the Falcons are as weak at linebacker as they are at defensive end. With Beasley on the strong side, newly-signed LB Courtney Upshaw could compete for the
    middle linebacker job. – Roto

    • CanadaBear

      No problem. Matty Ice, the most over rated QB in the NFL, will keep them winning. Or not.

  • So, filler time. Brady in top 5 most hated. A lot of these players seem all too contemporary.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/05/20/tom-brady-lands-in-top-five-most-hated-nfl-players-of-all-time/

    Personally, I think my least fav was Romanowski. Not only was he a dirty ass player, but he also came off as a gigantic douche and poster boy meathead.

    Who’s your most ‘hated’ all-time player?

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      If Charles Martin doesn’t win in a landslide, it will say something about the age demographic of the commentariot on the blog.
      I expect Favre is up there as well.

      • CanadaBear

        I never really hated Favre. I hated that he beat the Beloved like a drum until Lovie came along. Favre was such a kiss ass with the refs it was unreal but at least some of it seemed genuine (when he would be kidding around with them) where as Rodgers is twice the kiss ass and he almost never seems genuine unless it’s something ultra douchey.

    • CanadaBear

      Obviously Charles Martin is #1. Suh has to be right up there. For me it was more about the teams. The Loins have been dirty off and on since I was a kid. The only time I remember the Fudgies being dirty was under Gregg. My dad used to talk about Ed Sprinkle being the dirtiest player he ever saw. And my dad was a Bears fan. Charlie Ford is the dirtiest Bear I’ve seen.

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      I lived in Denver when Romo was there. I saw him at a pizza place, walked right up behind him. Just he and I were in the place. I’m 6’3″ and 250, but he was every bit my size. He looked like he was inflated, like pumped with a bicycle pump.

      He had articles in the Denver Post about his macrobiotic diet and all this regimen, so I REALLY wanted to say “is a large cheese part of the training table?” or “extra cheese makes the steroids go down easy, eh?” but he would have killed me. He looked like Roger Daltry had a steroid pumped brother, like they were the Kray twins and Romo was the homicidal one.

      So I was chicken shit and said nothing. He had that look like Sam L has in Pulp Fiction where he wants you to say what one more god damn time.

      A year later, I go to a Broncos game, I am on the 20 yard line pretty low, about 15 rows up. Romo is now a Raider, and playing OLB. Shannon Sharpe goes out into the wide right flat for a sideline catch and Romo grabs him and holds his wrist, pulls him to the ground and rolls onto the arm like some motherfucking Jason Bourne move and Sharpe’s arm pops out of the socket.

      The place went apeshit. I mean APE SHIT

      I thought there was going to be a riot. Soccer hoolie 101.

      I am not that far from the vistor tunnel, which was in the south east corner of the stadium. As he goes back there, people are hanging off the edges throwing bottles at him, I mean total insanity. Cops are weilding sticks, the whole thing was way over the line.

      So I can say I was at the game where Sharpe nearly had his arm ripped off by Romo. It was so so so dirty.

      So I always thought he was psycho.

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        Here’s the tackle,

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqrIsekRIXc

        I have to hand it to him. It was Houdini level of slight of hand, running full speed. He could write a book “how to maim and cripple in broad daylight view without anybody noticing.”

        He grabs that wrist so well concealed, and then Captain Kirk rolls into him just SO.

        • Cutty Badger

          holy shit, he saw the arm right at the end, used it as leverage and quickly rotated his body to trap it and snap it.
          Damn dude.

        • Jesus. You know he’s been doing that move since JR High flag football.
          Fucker had it down tight.

          Good thing u didn’t give him shit!

      • wow. believe every word. Dude makes Richie Icognitio look like royalty.
        I sorta skipped Charles Martin cuz that’s a no-brain #1 for all Bear fans.

        But Romo for sure just checked off all the boxes for me.

    • Doc Nitty

      Charles Martin.

    • willbest

      Hatred has a half life.

    • MB30SD

      you mean after erin?

      clay. mathews.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      Who is your most ‘hated’ all-time Bear?

      • That’s a tough one.
        I suggested to burn CedDrunk’s jersey in in effigy in case case I get murdered since I think he epitomized everything wrong with the Bears since the 90s.

        Might have to stick to my guns, but Bears who also rubbed me the wrong way are Briggs and Bennett.

        Peppers is perhaps the one I feel most conflicted about.

        On the one hand, he signed a big contract, and IMO, actually lived up to the hype.
        I also feel he genuinely wanted to destroy Aaron (going back to his Panther’s day), which as an extra bonus.

        But then he became disinterested (though in retrospect with Dr Death…) and bolted to the Pack.

        Dunno what to make of it all.

        Probably have to ask Al, Canada and Bill about all time Bear suckers.

        • CanadaBear

          Cadester by a mile. I won’t go over the laundry list. Cedrunk was an idiot. And a crybaby. That’s a bad combo. Those two stand out. There were lots of other busts but those two took the sense of entitlement to new levels.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Enjoy some fun defensive coverage background materials…
    https://realfootballnetwork.com/2016/05/18/coverages-playbook/

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Here’s my theory on how we get to 10-6 and a playoff spot…
    Special teams…guys like Bolden, my man DHC, Grabowski (that 4th round LB), etc…all contributing on ST because we have solid starters in place on defense this year. We will be forcing turnovers and generating points off of ST at a pace unheard of since the glory days of the 2005-6 teams.
    And there’s that speedster from the 7th round.

    • willbest

      So neo-Hester to give us the best starting position in the league?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        They are certainly creating competition at the kick return position, although I guessed we ranked 3rd in return average last year. More importantly, we should get much better on the coverage side of things with JAGs on defense moving back into key ST roles. Lots of room to improve on that end.

        • CanadaBear

          The second half of the season ST’s played better and better (other than Robbie). With some decent players I think Rodgers (ST’s coach) will be a decent hire.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    Another Camaro, another Cars & Coffee testosterone crash

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHA6DimbkgY

  • MB30SD

    “just in time to throw down major bombing raids on trolls, tricks, marks, trick ass marks, mark ass tricks, scalliwags…. and SB Nationers.”

  • Ososfan

    OK I’ve been out of the blog for more than 2 weeks and all hell breaks loose?! What happened?? I understand this is a sports blog but there are also a lot of ridiculously smart peeps who I enjoy when y’all converse about other things beside our beloved. So, keep up the heated arguments! They’re very informative, don’t really enjoy the name-calling but meh,we are all grown lol no babysitting.

    • Cutty Badger

      Fuck You!!!! Hahaha!

      • Ososfan

        Worldstar!!! Lol

  • Isn’t booby fri? Who the hell is slacking?

    Not quite booby, but along the waffle line of banging Olympians.

    https://blueollie.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/womens-olympic-water-polo-team-001.jpg

    Also, anyone ever bang a water polo chick? I never have. Do tell…

  • Lol I can’t believe Shany. Just will NOT let it be. Reminds me of that scene in Am Psycho when he stabs the bum and kicks his dog in the rainy alley.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/05/20/mike-shanahan-i-didnt-think-trading-up-for-rg3-was-very-smart/

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