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Audibles From the Long Snapper: Martellus Moves to Boston & New Long Snapper Alert!

| March 16th, 2016

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Few things of note worth weighing in on.

  • Martellus Bennett is now a Patriot. This should thrill a player who cares about one thing: money. Ryan Pace doesn’t hesitate to dump players who don’t fit the culture. But I will reiterate what I’ve said for months. Bears should have spent entire offseason convincing Marty to buy-in. They’re worse without him.
  • Bears signed former Broncos snapper Aaron Brewer to a one-year deal. Most interesting thought on the signing comes from the Twitter feed of former Bears scout Greg Gabriel: “Don’t think for a minute the Bears signing a new snapper wasn’t all about Gould’s misses last year. That’s ALL it was about.” Do I buy the snapper being to blame for Robbie blowing games? No. Do I doubt the team considers it a factor? No.
  • Per Jimmy Shapiro at Bovada the Besrs have gone from 50/1 to 40/1 to win the Super Bowl this year. Have to say that’s a substantial jump considering the lack of sexiness surrounding their free agent haul. Vegas clearly understands the Bears are better today than they were ten days ago.
  • Based on CJ Anderson’s comments (re: chasing more money to Chicago) one has to assume the Bears had interest in the Broncos back. My only question is…why?  Anderson is an okay back but can’t you find a bunch of him in the middle of the draft? And why would the Bears want to put money into a position there they could potentially have a young star at cost?
  • Zach Miller was always coming back to Chicago, barring a huge divide in compensation. I don’t play the source game but here’s something I know: Cutler lobbied Miller aggressively to return. Don’t be surprised if Miller isn’t rewarded on the stat sheet next season.

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  • Shady

    Said in my best Boston accent…

    “Oh shit Jay, you see we got the Black uni today?”

    “Fuck John no way, that’s wicked ha’ad cowah!”

    “I know bro, we’re gonna have Gronk AND Martysaurus on the field together”

    “That’s almost as awesome as that time we saw that baby fucking whale, kid”

    “I know bro! Pass me a fucking lager Jay, time to celebrate.”

    First biatches.

    • The GP Experiment

      that video was pure fuckin gold, bro

      • SC Dave

        Yeah… it does not look much like a wheel to me tho.

        • Irish Sweetness

          It’s not a wheel, it’s a BABY wheel.

          Dude, it needs help, let’s fuckin kill it and get it in the boat!

    • Bender McLugh

      oh holy crap I a have tears from that video

    • Scharfinator

      Saw this months ago… thank you so much for reminding me of it so I could watch it again.

      BEEBEEWHEEL

  • Ososfan

    If the reports are true and Bears and Pats swapped draft picks for the trade then I’m kinda pissed about it. Smh!!!

    • Big Mike

      The Bears gave up one of their extra 6th round picks and received a 4th round pick

      • Ososfan

        Just saw that, Big Mike. Happy we got at least a fourth for him. Pat fans already crowning them for the SB.

        • Big Mike

          Cancer eats away from the inside out

      • And we had 3 6th rounders, if I remember correctly.
        As long as we still hold an extra one to replace Gould, I’m happy.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Or grab that Wendall Williams kid as a returner. Ran a 4.19 40, I don’t really care if he’s a crap WR.
          By the way, the Pats will probably dump Amendola and his 6 Million dollar contract.
          Would anyone give him 3?

          • Bender McLugh

            nope

        • Big Mike

          I wanted to cut Gould instantly at some point last year. But I forgot when. Now I just think they need to bring in serious competition. The best placekickers coming out of college will be there in the UDFA pile. That whole drafting a kicker trick didn’t work out with POD. A number of the UDFAs from that year are as good or better. Not to mention Tres Way, who might have been the Redskins MVP.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I would have cut the fucker straight up, so getting another pick in the 4th is gravy.

    • Sactowns#1

      I’ve read two different reports. One said give up a 6th and get a 4th and I’ve also ready give up a 6th and get a 4th and 7th.

  • Big Mike

    Addition by subtraction. He still needs a new contract.

  • The GP Experiment
    • SC Dave

      Just some pathetic career douche bag loser looking for a little fame. Nothing to see here.

  • The GP Experiment

    I left finance because if I’m going to take it up the ass for a decade, I’d prefer to get in to a hall of fame for it.

    Haha!

    http://www.mandatory.com/2015/02/05/former-wall-street-intern-becomes-porn-star/

    • DaMurph

      I would love for her to handle my assets!

  • DaMurph

    Good riddance! How long until he pouts because Gronk is getting all the attention? He was one weird bastard from the start, and then decides to be a distraction and detriment to the team.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      He’s a cancer and Fox can’t stand him.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      I am curious how long it takes for Brady to get mad at him for cutting a route off short, or stopping in a zone(where he should have stayed) then just start running again a half second later, or not fighting for a pass that is totally catchable, or whiffing on a block in pass protection.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        Brady wont have that shit. Neither will mcdaniels

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          I know but you know it is going to happen

      • Like with Bmarsh, give it a season. The honeymoon period is on. The fans will like his zany radiio interviews.

        Then, INTs will start falling around Bennett while he limps around body slamming first round cbs.

        • willbest

          You think the Pats will even bother extending him? With Brady only have a couple years left they seem to be in the win now mode.

  • BillW

    So in his contract year he goes to a team where he is maybe the third option, at best? And probably lower than that.

    Great move by Pace. Had he gone to a team that needed a te, his numbers would help his next contract. Now? Not as much, plus as said here by others, he’s likely to blow up over being a supporting cast member and not a star.

    And we get to watch it from afar, since it’s the AFC East

    • Bender McLugh

      I think he’ll be the solid TE2. Until he blows it. Then he’ll be cut.

  • That Guy

    With this move, the Bears free up $5.6M in cap space. They’re in comfortable shape to sign another mid-range player. Pace has cut all of the bad apples, leaving only young, hungry men who want their teams to get better and want to earn their next contracts.

    Its clear that Pace wants to add another running back (he’s been linked to at least 2 in FA). We’re also a bit thin at TE, though bringing back Miller helps a lot in that department.

    We’ll enter the draft with 9 picks, including 5 in the first four rounds. I view the team’s top priorities as follows:

    1. Safety – We have no stud at safety, just journeymen. We’re trying to build a monster D for Fangio to run. Monster D’s always have at least one great safety (Ed Reed and Cam Chancellor come to mind). I’d love to see the Bears upgrade there in the draft.

    2. Pass Rusher – We have McPhee. We have some other good players. We need one more great player to command attention along with McPhee. This is where we’ll look in the first two rounds.

    3. True DE – We have a lot of tweeners – small big guys that can play nose or end, big small guys that can play OLB or end. We don’t have anyone on the roster that lives at the 3-4 DE position. I’m not saying we need JJ Watt, but we need to find an anchor there.

    4. Offensive Playmaker – The team needs to add at least one more weapon in the off-season. We lost Marty and Forte. Maybe that will allow other guys already on the roster to step up, but the fact is those two players accounted for a large percentage of our production last year. Bennett was our go to in the red zone. Forte was a dependable, production machine. We need to replace over 2000 all purpose yards and probably 20 touchdowns next season. That isn’t all coming from Langford.

    5. Backup QB – We need one. We didn’t sign anybody last year. There is no reason with 9 picks and cap room to spare that we can’t get a guy in this year.

    • SC Dave

      So number 4.

    • Big Mike

      Some of those 2,000 yards will show up if the Bears aren’t going into games with practice squad receivers. Lone Mariani’s grit, but please.. He should have never seen the field. I for one think Langsford can be better than Forte next year. The kid is explosive. The only area we have taken a step back is TE. Having said all of that more playmakers is good. I love that we picked up an extra 4th round pick. Essentially the Bears cut Bennet and got a 4th round pic for Bostic.

      I like your list of needs. Anyone of them could be addressed in the first round. Wouldn’t shock me. Also our 2nd round pick is pretty damn valuable. Isn’t it like # 7 or 8 in the second round. ?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Agreed on Mariani – thanks for the fish, but should never have been on the field. Amendola should be available soon.

    • beninnorcal

      Pretty sure we’ll have 10 picks. We gave a sixth rounder to NE with Marty but we got a fourth in exchange and a seventh which was compensatory, right?

      • Ososfan

        Wait, when did we get a compensatory pick??

        • That Guy

          I’m seeing some sources that show us picking twice in the seventh round (so Ben is right, 10 picks). But its not a compensatory pick, it looks like the result of a trade.

          But not all sources have the trade logged, so I’m not certain.

          • CanadaBear

            Was Bostic for a 7th? How ’bout the washed up hillbilly?

    • 1. S. I say get Will Cypress Hill even if suspended for 10 games. That doesn’t prevent us from drafting another Amos and having options.

      2. Agree. That’s why I would love Myles Jack. Yes, undersized, tweener, maybe knee, but dude is a MANIAC and might be the one that returns our D to where it should be.

      3. Buckner comes to mind. If not, we can get a quality one in a deep class. You’re right, doesn’t have to be next Watt, but I’d be more than happy for a Justin Smith type.

      4. Wouldn’t mind a project TE that jumps off tape but needs polish. I think we’ll make up for the loss of Marty and Matt. Miller can def mach his production (IF he can remain healthy), and Langford I believe can match Matt’s. Add in White, a health Royal and Alshon (cross fingers) and a more experienced Wilson, Mariani, etc (I think that often gets overlooked. This is going to be year two of an entirely new system and they’ll all have more chemistry with Cutty). It’s going to be more run oriented, time consuming, so the stats might be lower, but the Ws higher.

      5. Agree, but if it’s a true backup, only if he’s better than Fales. I literally have no clue cuz we never see Fales at the NFL level, so this is a shot in the dark from a fan’s perspective.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Dude, Pace needs a slap if he enters the new season with the WRs we have and no additions. We’ve got two that I can see of.

        • Bender McLugh

          three w/a healthy Royal, but that’s a big if

    • Irish Sweetness

      4. I love our backs, but I’m all about getting Zeke in the first, or Derrick Henry in the second, or preferably the trade down, and grab Ragland AND Henry in the first.

      {We know, Irish ….}

      Good.

      But Stanley in the first is not necessarily the Zombie apocalypse. That would be Wentz at 11.
      It will be that Boston dude and the baby wheel, all day and all week if that happens.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      #1 – all day long.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    @scdave regarding Rodgers, fact is Favre was 36 and already talking retirement. The fact that he didn’t at the end of the 05 season was not a gimme.

    • SC Dave

      Fact is Favre didn’t retire and played three more years for Green Bay while Rodgers learned how to become a pro without getting killed for it ala Andrew Luck or Sam Bradford.

      If you believe in building through the draft, you cannot pass up guys that you believe are the future because you don’t have an urgent current need.

      • That Guy

        Also specifically with QB, if you believe your team will be good, you won’t see too many future starters available to you late in the first round. You’ve got to take them when you can.

        I view the Bears taking a QB at #11 as akin to the Patriots taking Jimmy Garappollo or the Niners taking Colin Kaepernick. Neither team needed a QB, but both teams have benefited from the selection either by replacing a starter or by having a dependable backup.

        • Or the Skins taking Cousins in the 4rth after trading the farm for RG3. Where are those critics now? Saints also drafted a QB relatively high even tho Brees might have some 3-4 years left.

          I would only take a QB at #11 if it’s Wentz. And although the short term part of my brain that wants instant gratification wouldn’t be thrilled, the long term part would totally understand.

          We also have no idea what Cutty’s plans are.

          • That Guy

            Taking a QB (Prescott) in the second round would also be a reasonable investment. This isn’t a bad QB class, but none of these guys should be upset being Jay Cutler’s backup for 2-3 years and then either getting a chance to take his job or being traded to get paid big money and start somewhere else after not getting killed on a rookie deal. Worked pretty well for Matt Flynn.

          • Big Mike

            That’s exactly the trade off. Short term brain wants some immediate return on all of our offseason patience and dedication. Long term brain is very realistic. If football like raising kids… The days go slow, but the years go fast.

            IMHO, if Wenz is there you have to take him.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Big difference between spending a 4th rounder and an upper 1st rounder..C’mon, maing.

          • SC Dave

            Agree, Pox would have to really believe he is “the guy” to take him at 11.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            And the Saints drafted that kid last year with a 3rd rounder (and they had two of them to spend). Wanna drop a mid-round pick on a developmental QB? Let’s do it.
            Want to blow our high first rounder on an FCS quarterback? Yeah, no thanks.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Both Garoppolo and Kaep were 2nd round picks, and JG was a -bottom- of the 2nd round pick at that.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        That was pure dumb luck and one more time, we’re not picking at the bottom of the 1st – you don’t spend top 10 picks on guys who aren’t even supposed to see the field for 3 years (which sounds like the “plan”).
        But whatever…the odds are Cleveland will stay true to their DNA and take him #2 then ruin him.

  • beninnorcal

    Pace is doing work, I like it. I’m fired up for the draft.

  • beninnorcal

    NE now has the best pair of TE’s in the league. Although, one of them is bat-shit-crazy.

    • That Guy

      And the other one is a prima donna.

      Now which is which?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Gronk had no problem sharing the limelight and receptions with Aaron Hernandez and Bennett hasn’t killed anybody.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          hasn’t killed anybody that we know of.

          • willbest

            I don’t know, I feel like I lose brain function after I listen to one of his interviews.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Other than several relationships.

    • Capt. Gronk! Honk Honk

  • That Guy

    Three TEs for us to target.

    Austin Hooper, Stanford (not worth #11, but likely not there in the second round)

    Jerrelll Adams, South Carolina (legitimate second round target)

    Jake McGee, Florida (another legitimate second round target)

    Tyler Higbee, Western Kentucky (some footwork issues, but a lot to like, maybe 3rd or 4th round).

    • I was wondering about TE options in the draft. I say we stick with the formula.
      Some ex-powerfoward or converted something that is extremely athletic with mitts but still learning in the 4rth or so.

      Could be the next Gates/Gonzo/Graham…or Kellen Davis…

      • That Guy

        I think Higbee in the 4th would be considered a great pickup. What I like most is that he’s not afraid of contact. Could be a first down machine with some coaching. If there’s a run on TEs at some point, he could go sooner.

  • WP34

    Aaron Leming ‏@AaronLemingNFL 32m32 minutes ago

    Former #Bears ILB Shea McClellin is on his way w/ Bennett to the #Patriots. 3 years.

    • Lemings!

      haha, that’s too funny. Apparently, the Pats really WERE gonna draft Shea over Chandler Jones!

      What a weird league.

    • willbest

      He can say hi to Jon Bostic and Bennett

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      FINALLY!!!!! Did Aaron Leming break a story? wait nope he was just reporting something Schefter reported.

      • Scharfinator

        He is a Lemming after all – they’re bred to follow. Even off of cliffs and to certain death.

  • – Per Jimmy Shapiro at Bovada the Besrs have gone from 50/1 to 40/1 to
    win the Super Bowl this year. Have to say that’s a substantial jump
    considering the lack of sexiness surrounding their free agent haul.
    Vegas clearly understands the Bears are better today than they were ten
    days ago. – Jeff

    Moral of the story, bet Bears BEFORE FA now that POX are in town.
    Or, don’t bet period. The more you know…

  • WP34

    Saw this – 2015 Bears:

    Zach Miller – 439 yards on 46 targets (5 TD)

    Martellus Bennett – 439 yards on 80 targets (3 TD)

    • No doubt Miller was more efficient. Cutty mentioned how Miller was a former QB, so understood all the nuisances, where he had to be, and yeah know, actually not checking out.

      Whether Miller can stay healthy is another story.

    • SC Dave

      One 87 yard play can skew numbers, but it still looks way better

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        just like a 2 yard TD catch can skew the numbers the other way.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Bears should have spent entire offseason convincing Marty to buy-in. They’re worse without him.”

    Respectfully and vehemently disagree.

    He quit on the Bears last year. Then they’re supposed to beg him to stay?

    Yeah, that makes sense. If you’re Bennett.

    “We’ll still pay you, even if you quit on us”

    Pace could not possibly send the message.

    And who has time to do all the homework to land multiple quality free agents and kiss Bennett’s ass, too?

    • Couldn’t agree more, Al.

      Good riddance (this calls for a true Burma Shave)

    • AlbertInTucson

      “They’re worse without him”.

      Worse without the Bennett they signed, not the Bennett they wound up with.

      Take your sorry attitude down the road and don’t let the door hit you in the fanny on your way out.

      This kind of crap is Bennett’s well-established, modus operendi and it’s silly to think the Bears could have talked him back into the fold.

      This should go into the circular file next to “They should have re- signed Peanut.”

      • AlbertInTucson

        A 4th rounder is way more than I ever thought the Bears would realize regarding Bennett.

        • I thought we’d have to cut him straight up.
          Pats must be drunk.

          • AlbertInTucson

            The deal makes sense, for them.

            The Chandler Jones deal cleared the cap space they needed and, as usual, they have plenty of draft picks, even after the league whacked them for a #1 for Deflategate.

            Bennett,assuming he’s be re-motivated, is a big upgrade to Scott Chandler, who they cut, as the #2 TE there.

          • But for a FOURTH? Granted, it’s a late fourth, but still.
            Maybe there was more of a Marty market than I originally imagined.

            I thought teams would just wait it out knowing we’d eventually cut Bennett, but POX must’ve made a lot of calls and created a market.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Final details have yet to be worked out. and the Bears are already throwing in a #6.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Giants showed interest, Packers showed interest, lots of teams were linked to him, but he couldn’t STFU and dropped his trade value..

          • CanadaBear

            The usual for the Black Uni.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Depends on what they pay him. A change of scenery might do him good. If they start him with Gronk, that’s a lot of soft coverage. Brady won’t play favorites, he’ll hit the guy that’s open. Get on Cutty’s shit-list … well BM found that one out.

      • Scharfinator

        “Worse without the Bennett they signed, not the Bennett they wound up with and were going to be stuck with.” Really well put! I think Jeff is ignoring the disparity in the player we started vs ended with.

  • That Guy
  • AlbertInTucson

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  • AlbertInTucson

    Zach Miller ain’t Martellus Bennett. ”

    And the last part of last season Martellus Bennett wasn’t Martellus Bennett, either.

    And he wasn’t GOING to be. At least not in Chicago.

    It was clearly time for both parties to move on.

    • Big Mike

      I hope he ends up in Bellichik’s doghouse

    • Scharfinator

      Miller has hell of a lot better of hands.

  • Dang, was hoping we’d kick the tires on this foolio (as a DE). If he pans out, that Rams D just got scarier.

    Rams signed DE Quinton Coples, formerly of the Dolphins, to a two-year contract.

    Coples was the 16th overall pick in the 2012 draft by the Jets. He didn’t make much of an on-field impact with Gang Green, registering just 16.5 sacks in three-and-a-half seasons before he was
    eventually cut last November and claimed off waivers by the Dolphins. Coples was yanked around in New York as a stand-up 3-4 outside linebacker and even tried at 3-4 end. In L.A., he’ll slide in as a more traditional 4-3 end and focus on rushing the passer. It’s a low-risk, high-upside signing for a Rams team that has shown it can develop pass rushers. – roto

  • BillW

    And New England signs Shea. .

    • That Guy

      Flag. 15 yards for a late hit. Read down for WP34’s post.

      • BillW

        My bad. I scanned the blog to see if someone had posted and didn’t see it.

        I always try to not post things that are already posted and to make it seem like I have the scoop. Sometimes it’s easy to miss with all the activity. No excuse.

    • Big Mike

      Good for Shea. Bears aren’t competing with NE yet. He’ll be a novelty player for the Patriots. If he plays >20 snaps a game without an injury in front of him, I’d be surprised. (not counting specials) Quality individual, just 1/2 a click from being good.

      • SC Dave

        It will be mildly interesting to see what Shea does for them.

        • Big Mike

          It will be. I always try to keep tabs on former Bears. Want to see them do well in most cases.

          • That Guy

            By all accounts Shea is a good guy and a good teammate. Just didn’t have the talent to do what we needed in our D. I wish him success elsewhere… though I doubt he becomes a star anywhere else either.

          • CanadaBear

            He refuses to play downhill. Always coming from an angle. He will always be meh.

  • Yikes. Cautionary tales at OT.

    The Associated Press’ Mark Long reports the Jaguars signed LT Kelvin Beachum to compete with Luke Joeckel.

    Joeckel had arguably his worst season in 2015, and simply hasn’t progressed since being the No. 2 overall pick of the 2013 draft. Beachum has accomplished much more on an NFL field, but is recovering from a torn ACL. Depending on how the competition goes, Joeckel could ultimately be traded, or Beachum could kick inside to guard. — Roto

  • That Guy

    Per Biggs, the Bears moved up around 75 spots, from the 200s to the 120s with the Bennett trade.

    That’s decent value right now.

  • willbest

    I think POD would have had more issues with the LS than Robbie. I don’t think the LS messed up any FG’s. POD had his hands in the way on one, but the others misses were all Robbie.

    • SC Dave

      Timing is as important as accuracy of snaps perhaps?

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Yeah maybe there’s a chemistry issue between the two in general?

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Laces out Dan!

  • Irish Sweetness

    So Cutler lobbied for Miller, but not for Bennett. Tells you all you need to know Jeff – and by the seven tweets you made relating to Bennett, I can see it stings. Also a cogent argument for turning Uni into a pick and dumping his salary, is the fact that the Bears have been trying to dump him for 18 months, and paid his salary to sit him on the bench when perfectly healthy.

    Now we get to draft a player in the 4th round, with people that know how to draft good players. Now we have 6.5M a year to pay some other decent value stud. Only the meatheads in the comments section of NFL.COM think we got hosed. We’re ridden of a cancer, and other doors have now been opened.

    On CJ Anderson, there do not appear to be a bunch of 5’8 225lb backs in the middle of the draft any year, no. We do need a banger,and I think Pace will get us one in the draft. If he does that with either of the top picks, so be it, that’s generally where they’re found.

    Another good job by Ryan pace.

    • Trac

      Barb “was” Bellicheat. It makes total sense now.

      • I had some guy on twitter randomly yelling at me the other day. After we went back and forth for a while, he said he was Barb.

        And then it all made sense.

        • Ososfan

          Hahaha! I miss that Romanian devil.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Me too. Come back Barb.

        • Irish Sweetness

          No way! What was his handle?

      • Ososfan

        “Mihai”

    • CanadaBear

      If by perfectly healthy you meant broken ribs you’re correct. Otherwise, not so much. I’ll miss his production but that’s all. What a pain in the ass. Same as BMarsh. Both good on Sunday and a disaster the other 6 days.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    So is Bill Belicheat sitting back thinking “Man, Phil Emery made some great moves when he was with the Bears, I got to get me those players!”

    Emery Players currently with Patriots or on their Practice Squad.
    2012 – drafted McClellin
    2013 – drafted Bostic
    2013 – signed Bennett
    2014 – drafted Brock Vereen

    • Big Mike

      It’s simple. Our starters are his backups. He paid pennies on the dollar.

  • Bender McLugh

    so now we need another TE………anyone know what Unrein’s 40 times were?

    • Bender McLugh

      DE Mitch Unrein ??? (6-foot-3 5/8, 276 pounds), ran 4.89 and 4.90 in the
      40-yard dash, had a 31-inch vertical jump, an 8-foot, 9-inch broad
      jump, a 4.60-second short shuttle, a 7.41-second three-cone drill and 26
      bench press repetitions. He looked good in the position drills. – Gil
      Brandt, NFL.com

      • Big Mike

        Still need a TE

        • Bender McLugh

          dood’s like a baby wheeel tho maen!

          • Big Mike

            Things that big shouldn’t go that fast. 🙂

          • Scharfinator

            OH MAH GAWD THATS A BEE BEE WHEEL!

    • Irish Sweetness

      9 picks, won’t be a problem.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Henry very well could be available at top of the 2nd round.

  • Irish Sweetness

    On the “Bears have gone from 50/1 to 40/1 to win the Super Bowl” thing .. .Vegas doesn’t “understand” anything. There is a book. Somebody had a couple of thousand dollars on the Bears at 50/1 when they saw the moves. That’s all.

    • Big Mike

      Which Henry are you excited about.. The Alabama RB or the Arkansas Tight End? I could see the TE being available in RD 2 and that would be a nice grab. Bigger need, top TE in the draft according to some.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Derrick. At the pro day he impressed the scouts running WR routes. With his size and speed you could split him out like a TE/WR. The options he’d give us in the running game are clear. Trade Carey for a 3rd or a 4th – we’ve got three picks in the 4th or two 3rds and two 4ths, with one of the most exciting bulldozers in the game. That would be awesome.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          No one is going to give up a 4th rounder for a backup running back (also drafted in the 4th round) who rushed for 3.7 YPC last year.
          Not. Gonna. Happen.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Then just cut him? I want a large man available in that backfield.

          • That Guy

            We have room for 1-2 more running backs on the roster. No reason to cut Carey.

            The team has made a move for at least 2 FA backs already.

          • That Guy

            Carey is a conditional sixth at best if we trade him, and even that’s a pipe dream. But why trade him? He’s a good teammate and a known quantity playing under a rookie contract. We could draft a RB with the pick we get for him that doesn’t even make the roster.

          • Irish Sweetness

            To make space for Henry. We have 4 RBs and a FB (Lasike) on the roster. Do we normally go into the season with 5 RBs? Perry has size and speed, Jock-squeeze is a dual threat. Langford is good. We’d have to ditch Carey simply to make space.
            We might draft Zeke.

          • That Guy

            Right now we’re going into camp. In camp, we have a 90 man roster, so we don’t need to make these decisions just yet. I think Jaquizz is probably the man on the bubble at the moment and his special teams play is what would save him.

            But yes, we usually do have 4-5 RBs on the 53 man roster. One roster spot can go to a TE, RB or FB. Paul Lasike would take that spot if he sticks around.

          • DaCoaches Mustache

            Perry sucks and will not make the team irish. only you and his mother think otherwise

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Size? He’s a buck-ninety if he climbs into the bathtub with a wool coat on.

        • Big Mike

          I’m not sold on Derrick Henry. I need to do some research. I am very impressed with Langsford. Henry from what I’ve heard is likely to be an early second, late first round guy. By definition that makes him a reach. A Langsford/Henry duo would be strong. However, Carey didn’t disappoint me last year. So is it really where the team should invest? We will see. If it turns out henry is available in the 2nd round, well he’d probably be the BPA. In Pace we trust..

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            If he’s there at top of the 2nd, I have no problem with picking him up – like you said, he’s probably BPA at that point and he’d push Langford for that bellcow role.

          • Big Mike

            He’d have to last until the 10th pick. Good value at that point. He’s not very elusive. Not sure he’s an every down back in the NFL. But a lot of teams/draft boards etc like the kid a lot. So what do I know? Me, I like the Bears drafting big men. DTs/DEs OTs Gs etc.

          • SC Dave

            Then spell his name correctly, dude.

          • Scharfinator

            True experts get names WRONG! Haven’t you heard about how all the experts refer to AJ as Jefferies?

          • Big Mike

            Seriously, I’m trying to contribute to the discussion here, and your on me because I mispelled Jeremy Langford’s name?

  • Ososfan

    All these Giants fans up here in Jersey understand the anger towards Marty B since they kinda lived a bit as well. He could have stayed in NY but wanted more money and eventually went to the Bears because they offered the most. Any who, I really want to go to Bears vs Giants this year, should be fun.

    • That Guy

      I’m not going to fault Marty for choosing the team that offered him the most money. He’s very honest about that – he views his body as his corporation, and corporations are meant to maximize profits. Most players feel the same, even if they aren’t as open saying it.

  • willbest

    Jeff must not have gotten a good night sleep or something. Lets not pretend that Marty is irreplaceable or that Forte with all those miles on him wouldn’t be a concern.

  • Irish Sweetness

    DaBearsBlog ‎@dabearsblog

    Nuance, folks. Things ain’t black and white.

    Is this the thirteenth tweet related to a guy the team has been trying to ditch for 18 months for reasons to which we are not a party to … or is it something else?

    • BillW

      It’s so simple to me – unless you don’t trust Pace and Fox that is.

      Pace/Fox decided the team would be better long term without Forte, Bennett, and Shea. They know a lot more than us and clearly have a plan.

      This isn’t Emery/Trestman we’re talking about.

      At this point, if they think getting rid of these guys helps their plan, I’m not against it.

      • Irish Sweetness

        They always played Brandon. Whatever the hell happened with Brandon that they wanted him gone, I don’t know, but they always played him no matter what. They sat Uni after 90 catches the season before … so it must have been a good reason.

  • CanadaBear

    Gotta laugh at Dickerson on espn writing CD was a decent player but just over drafted. According to him if he was a 3rd or 4th rounder he was a decent player. Uh, no he wasn’t. He sucked all 4 years at 3 different spots. Hillenmeyer was better than CD and he was a UFA. Jeff and Dickerson should get together and make a tape of all his good plays. As long as they don’t include different angles from his good plays, the tape would run less than 30 seconds.

    • Bender McLugh

      I still do wonder how much better he would be if they started him off at LB. But who cares now, ABCYA

    • BillW

      I always thought that argument is stupid. Once the guy is on the roster, he is a player – not a 1st round player or a 4th round player. It’s what can you do – not what can you do given where you were drafted.

      Touchdowns by fourth rounders are the same 6 points as they are for 1st rounders. Yards lost by sacks aren’t increased because it was by a fourth rounder.

      They dont’ grade on a curve in the NFL. Perform or gone.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        It’s about opportunity cost.

        • BillW

          Yes – I get that. but once the decision is made, you have to evaluate the player for what he is, not what he should have been given the draft position.

          If they thought Shea was a decent backup and added value there, I believe they would have kept him. They didn’t let him go because he didn’t pan out as a first rounder – they let him go because he didn’t pan out as a football player.

          • willbest

            What Shea is at this point is a jack-of-all-trades injury replacement at LB and in a real pinch 4-3 DE

          • CanadaBear

            I hope the Bears come up against him when he’s at DE.

          • Johnnywad

            Langford on a misdirection play would be a sure touchdown to CD’s side.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            You also pay a first rounder like a first rounder, at least on the rookie contract; that has a bearing on how you’re judging their performance.

          • BillW

            We’re not disagreeing. Because clearly you base the second contract on how he performed, not where he was drafted.

    • SC Dave

      Hillenmeyer was solid if unspectacular. I think many bears fans have him underrated because of having to try to replace BU one season.

      • CanadaBear

        He certainly had less athletic talent than CD but way better instincts and not averse to contact. He got run over a time or two but he always attacked the ball carrier

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        This.

    • I distinctly remember Narowcki (who use to run Hubs PFW draft edition) putting Shea in the 4rth initially. Shea was by far the most overdrafted guy according to his guide, and he couldn’t understand it.

      Then again, many thought Bruce Irvin was likewise overdrafted, but at least he was explosive and aggressive.

      The funny part is that both the Pats and Cheese were rumored to want him, and now the Pats swoop him up off the scrap heap.

      Emery was half right. Pats wanted Shea, but as a UFA.

    • AlbertInTucson

      “…decent player but just over drafted..”

      What an absolutely stupid rationalization.

  • willbest

    Interesting the NFL is moving to a Yellow-Red card system for some personal fouls.

    • SC Dave

      Really!? Fantastic idea. Are send-offs only the individual, or does the team finish the game short handed?

      • Scharfinator

        Removing high profile players would probably be enough. The less talented players don’t commit egregious penalties because they get kicked out of the league.

        • willbest

          I suspect we could call this the Aquib Talib rule after his performance in the SB (or was it the AFCC)

      • That Guy

        I’m not a fan of introducing the power play into professional football.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Could see that going south real quick.

      • AlbertInTucson

        2 Personal fouls, I believe, and you’re gone. I assume that means the “Unsportsmanlike conduct” type as opposed to clipping or tripping.

  • Sactowns#1

    Thought experiment- would you trade a 4th and 2nd for someone’s 1st? Would you trade your 4th and your 1st just to move up to the top 5?

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Yes. And depends…if you’re at the bottom of the 1st (like 30th)? Yes.

      • Sactowns#1

        In the Bears situation today. Would you trade away a 4th and the #11 pick in order to move up to #5?

        • BC in Tampa

          Who’s the target?

          • Sactowns#1

            Bosa, Ramsey, Buckner? Maybe even a complimentary OT?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Ramsey or Buckner are intriguing. Athletes in the secondary me likey.

          • That Guy

            I don’t like Bosa enough to trade up for him. He’s a great player, but he has a high risk of being a bust as well.

            Buckner (along with Bosa) are also replaceable in the draft without trading up. There’s a pretty good list of large defensive linemen that will be available in the first three rounds. We can get someone good without giving up an extra pick.

            But I do like Ramsey.

          • BC in Tampa

            I like Buckner and Ramsey so if they’re there I would make that deal on the clock.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          If it means we don’t draft Wentz, yes.

    • willbest

      I would trade the Bears 11 and their 4th to move up to 5th.
      I would trade the Bears 2nd and the Bears 4th to move up to at least 16 spots without question. If we were talking the 32nd pick however, I would need to know what my draft board looked like at that point.

      Edit: I would use the Bears 2nd and the Pats 4th to move up to 32nd. Keep in mind 1st round picks get the 5th year option. Allows you to control a stud player longer.

      • That Guy

        It costs a lot more than a 4th to make that move.

        History suggests the Bears would have to trade a 3rd and 4th or their 2nd to get to #5 from #11,

        But I would trade an extra third to get Ramsey or Tunsil. I would trade an extra fourth to get Stanley and maybe Hargreaves (not sure about Hargreaves).

        That’s about it for trading up. I don’t think the compensation I described would make it worth the move except possibly leapfrogging the Giants for Stanley. But I doubt Tampa Bay would allow the Giants to grab their preferred pass rusher for just a 4th round pick.

        So yeah, this draft the players aren’t there.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Depends on which picks in the first and second …

      How about this : who’s worth taking at 11 that’s a better deal than trading down for Ragland and Derrick Henry?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Don’t need Ragland anymore.

      • Sactowns#1

        We would be giving up the #11 and the # 106 in order to get the #5 pick.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Jeff cites “unknowns” at LT and WR in addition to our team being hurt by the loss of Forte and Bennett.
    Leno seems to be growing into the role. Another year of experience and offseason training can’t hurt. Former #2 overall picks have failed as well at Tackle so I think that a lot of guys in that position are unknowns even if people think they are known.
    White was a consensus top 2 WR in the entire 2015 draft. Being unknown as an UDFA out of Mid Appalachian State Cooking academy is one thing. Being a now healthy top prospect by virtually every decision maker, scout and critic of football in 2015 is probably the closest thing to a known quantity that you’ll get in a young player.
    Forte was a very versatile back and seemingly could have been kept for less money than previously thought seeing as how he jumped at a job offer despite not having a quarterback. However, did you see the potential, the violence, the desperation with which Langford and Carey ran with last year? Holy shit, we hadn’t seen that in years and it resulted in drive extending short runs, 70yd screen pass TD’s, 30yd seam routes, and red zone TD’s. I will miss Matt Forte and he was a true pro but let’s not pretend like his game didn’t have holes in it. The Bears will move forward in a different style without Forte but it doesn’t mean it’s the wrong style.
    Bennett was a fucking cancer. Reports are that multiple teammates had serious issues with him, his work ethic, his attitude and his level of buy in with the club. When the new coaches saw that shit first hand I’m sure it was like the President seeing the Daily Threat Matrix after being sworn in. “holy shit, I didn’t know it was this bad”. He quit on the team, brought the team down and his touches can be made up for. Someone said he was a “beast” in the blocking department. What fucking season did they watch. Ask Forte about Bennett’s beastblocking. Addition by subtraction. We are not more interested in Salary Cap moves than by talent on the team as Jeff would suggest by his Tweets. We are interested in seeing guys that want to fucking ball out and win and don’t make their teammates fucking sick.

    • CanadaBear

      I think you’re going to be surprised by the running game (and not in a good way). Langford’s 3.6 yds/carry jumps out at me. I think Forte had lost a half step but was still head and shoulders better than Langford. Either way, full speed ahead. Agree with ya about the Black Uni (although he was legitimately hurt with broken ribs). Both BMarsh and Black Uni suck all the oxygen out of the room and just wear everyone out. I think BMarsh is a decent guy with major personal issues. I think the Black Uni is just a very talented narcissist with a mean streak.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        From what I saw I think the line upgrades alone will close the gap on any advantage Forte may have had. Langford had a bunch of runs where he couldn’t go further than 1 or 2yds because he’d be in the endzone…..regardless, we’ll see very shortly.
        Bennett could no doubt play with injuries and pain but if you really watched him during interviews he truly is a mean, angry and selfish guy.
        BMarsh wears people out but no one could out work him. He just couldn’t/can’t handle working that hard, having that much skill and not getting the chance to affect the outcome of the game at all times. Those leg injuries really fucked with his head in 2014.

        • SC Dave

          Line upgrades would have significantly helped Forte too. It’s not as if Matt had a better line than Langford last season.

          • CanadaBear

            From what I remember whenever they ran Unrein as a lead back at the GL, It was always Langford at RB. Taking nothing away from Langford because he looked good on those GL runs but Unrein REALLY opened some holes for him.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          sorry, meant that the types of hole hitting that go on with Langford and Carey combined with a stronger inside and edge presence in the blocking game may diminish the impact of losing Matt.

      • willbest

        Forte has an acute sense of timing, but his body is aging and football IQ can only make up for so much. See Urlacher. Will Langford develop that? I don’t know. He showed flashes. Carey seemed to improve on his rookie season and Fox does know how to use running backs.

        • CanadaBear

          I agree with ya, I’m just not convinced Langford is all that. Carey ran hard last year and seemed to get the most out of his talent. Hope that continues. No doubt Fox will have a 2-headed monster at RB. Pretty sure they will add another one after chasing CJA.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    “Zach Miller was always coming back to Chicago, barring a huge divide in compensation…Don’t be surprised if Miller isn’t rewarded on the stat sheet next season.” — Jeff

    So, is it safe to say that Millers 39 catches for almost 450yds can be increased due to increased playing time, an increased role and Cutler looking for him. Sounds like a nice first step in replacing some of Bennett’s production. Bennett also had more production in 2014 due to all 3 of our starting WR’s suffering leg injuries in the first game….one WR suffering a painful and lingering injury that would eventually drive him fucking insane and off the team. We don’t need our TE catching 900yds. We need our WR’s to get yards and TD’s and the TE to contribute.

    • Sactowns#1

      I believe I will be drafting him as my TE in FF this year. It’s a keeper league so thinking 2nd or 3rd round.

      • beninnorcal

        I’m still worried about his durability. Hopefully all his bad luck is behind him.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          I hear you but Marty is built like a fucking tank and he still gets hurt. Gronk is also a monster and he’s been hurt pretty often too. Maybe it’s just luck??

          • beninnorcal

            I was, by no means, advocating for Marty to stick around. I just hope there’s a plan in place is all. Miller hasn’t had the best luck with injuries so far. No doubt he wants to play at a high level.

          • CanadaBear

            TE has to be the most injury-prone position.

          • willbest

            Probably a function of the DLs and LBs they match up against rather than the CBs

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Or the CBs constantly going low on them…getting constantly tagged in the shins and dragged down by the ankles can’t be good for you.

          • CanadaBear

            It’s all of that. Blocking DE’s, banging with LB’s and the low hits from CB’s. They get hit constantly and those hits from LB’s when the TE is facing the QB in the shallow middle make my back hurt.

          • That’s part of the reason I was hoping for Gresham who resigned with the Cards and is gambling on himself.

            He’s a nasty blocker that would’ve done the dirty work to save Miller some wear and tear.

          • TEs and S.

            They frequently go up against each other too.
            Must be a correlation.

          • CanadaBear

            Good safeties are always attacking the ball carrier. Unfortunately for them a lot of the ball carriers out weigh them by 50 lbs. There’s a reason they make individuals fight in weight categories! I can’t imagine.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Eifert had 13 TDs tis year BT, and FF wsie, Jordan Reed Gary Barnidge and Delanie walker did better than Gronk if you’re in a PPR league.

    • Scharfinator

      Just want to leave this here. 🙂

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Journalistic/Blogging Jeff and Twitter Jeff are like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, I swear, but I think even that line is starting to thin and dissappear

    • Hope not. If so, GP and I will have to create a new Da Blog.
      It won’t be pretty. I imagine it to be like Sam Kennison meets Being John Malkavich while Denis Miller narrates on blow.

      It would only last a week before it explodes into a singularity and creates new life in an alternate universe.

      “we are all digital star dust….”

      • The GP Experiment

        More painful than being knotted in an S&M Dungeon, or having to listen to Rich Eisen for 12 hours straight.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          i believe the latter is against the Geneva Convention, and is considered a war crime.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Haha!

  • Irish Sweetness

    DaBearsBlog ‎@dabearsblog
    No question. Bears believe they’ll replace production at TE/RB. Until they actually do it, skepticism is fair.

    You mean replace Matt’s 4 rushing TDs and Uni’s 3 TDs ? Uhhhh … Langford had 6 and Zach had 5, so …… I think we already did.

    • The GP Experiment

      Jock Jizz is back, buddy.

      • Irish Sweetness

        And Perry.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          He of the -1 receiving yard (and zero rushing yards) for his career?
          Get Canton on the phone now.

          • Scharfinator

            I think he means Senorise?

    • That Guy

      But now you need Langford to get 10 and Zach to get 8 to cover the extra production. Plus, we want those numbers to go up, not stay flat.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        not true sir, if all of our WR’s don’t get hurt I’m guessing our TE won’t lead the team in TD receptions.
        2015 was an anomaly just like 2014 was skewered to make Bennett look all world.
        Having White, Alshon, Royal and Wilson producing will make things look a lot different.

        • That Guy

          My point is simply that you can’t replace Matt and Uni’s production by remarking that Langford and Zach were already pretty close. If Langford and Zach replace Matt and Uni, someone else has to replace Langford and Zach.

          Last year we were at:

          1854 Rushing Yards
          13 Rushing TDs
          3660 Passing Yards
          21 Passing TDs
          99/229 on third or fourth down conversions

          In contrast, the Cardinals (an all around better offense) had:

          1917 Rushing Yards
          16 Rushing TDs
          4616 Passing Yards
          35 Passing TDs
          97/207 third or fourth down conversions

          Forte and Bennett made up a pretty big chunk of those stats. So we’re replacing, say, 30-40% of our offensive production while also trying the maintain the other 60-70% and improve all 5 of those relatively mediocre stats. Forte and Bennett being gone gives the other guys opportunities, but we need to use those opportunities to set a goal of adding

          1000 Rushing Yards
          10 Rushing TDs
          2000 Passing Yards
          20 Passing TDs
          30 First Downs

          All on top of the stats scored last season by players still on the Bears Roster.

          Langford will add more. White will hopefully add a lot more since he’s starting at zero. Miller will hopefully add more if he stays healthy. But we need more guys to step up beyond that.

          • If we’re reasonably healthy, I’m not too worried about the players.

            We boast a PB WR in Alshon (who can also block). A theoretically studly WR in White. Royal for all we know is Welker. He was very impressive with the chargers, and should move the chains. Wilson and Mariani will chip in.
            Miller is extremely productive when in. The 2nd TE is almost always a blocking TE anyways.

            Langford might not reach Forte numbers by himself, but Carey and Jizz will def contribute.

            And most crucially, Cutty will be in year 2 of a new system in which he’s so far thrived behind a solid Oline (perhaps the best in the NFCN).

            The defense has improved on paper, thus giving a drive or two more to the O.

            I would argue we have a top 10 O heading into the draft with playmakers who can score on any touch at WR, TE and HB.

            Not many teams can boast that.

          • That Guy

            With the roster as its currently situated, in a great season for our team, Langford and the other backs will replicate last year’s production without Forte, running for 1800+ yards by committee. Let’s say: Langford gets 900-1000, Carey gets 500-600, the other guys get 300+. Those are believable goals, and I think we can find the end zone once a game on the ground as well.

            But what is our path to 4500 passing yards on offense? Again, assuming a great season:
            Jeffery – 1200 yards
            White – 800 yards (rookies rarely make 1000)
            Royal – 600 yards (hard to ask more from the #3 guy)
            Miller – 600 yards (he and Marty each had 439 in 2015)
            RB’s – 800 yards (Forte’s best season was 808, neither Langford nor Carey can catch at that level)

            Where do the other 500 yards come from? We should really have players we think can generate another 1000 yards of production so that if someone(s) fall short, there’s wiggle room. Still… we need at least one more playmaker to get to 4500 yards. The obvious choice is a second TE, but really it could just as easily be a pass catching RB or FB. It could be a fourth WR that gets significant snaps.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Danny Amendola.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Of course not, it’s just a start. They’re the guys in place that were already here.
            There’s more to come, sure.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Well I’m hoping there’s a back added in the draft. Ahem.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Why did we have Ragland in for a private workout? What does that mean? They’re taking him at 11, or Pace is planning to go all Kevin Costner ?

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      That was before we signed Freeman.

    • CanadaBear

      The Bears bring in a ton of guys for workouts. Lots of subterfuge going on at all times.

      • willbest

        I thought they are only allowed a certain number of draft prospect workouts. Which doesn’t negate misdirects, but does limit their ability to do it.

        • CanadaBear

          Last I read it was around 30. Lots of misdirection there!

    • They also brought in Wentz, didn’t they? Actually, they interviewed his HS coaches.
      You don’t do that unless ur for serious.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Oh shit.

  • CanadaBear
  • The GP Experiment

    Martellus bends like a reed in the wind.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000645257/article/martellus-bennett-not-flustered-by-trade

    Or, as he puts it, a dandelion.

    Let me rephrase then:

    Martellus bends like a WEED in the wind.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      First time he pisses off Belichick, this happens.

      • Bender McLugh

        +10 for Firefly clip

  • All this talk about draftees and D, and my biggest concern is our new OC.

    Last time we heard about keeping “continuity” on O was when Tice took over.

    For all we know, Loggains could be the new Tice.

    You gonna trust a guy who looks like he should’ve been a penis stunt double in “The Bird Cage”? (nttawwt)

    http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/blogs/bearsloggains_11116.jpg

    • The GP Experiment

      He does look like Nathan Lane’s younger, dumber brother.

      The same Nathan Lane who is playing F Lee Bailey in the OJ tv show. He sucks as F Lee. F Lee was a much bigger prick. Every line Nathan says, you think he’s about to break into a dance number.

      • AlbertInTucson

        The since, disbarred, F.Lee.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Fuck me that IS Nathan Lane! He has such a bit part I didn’t really catch on. He got big, huh? I always expected that little prick to just put on a dress and bang out ” THE SUN’LL COME OUT TOOOOO-MOR-ROW!!”

        How about ‘The Glove’ episode? Awesome. Was Darden really duped into getting OJ to try the gloves on? That was the whole trial for me. “If the glove doesn’t fit, you must acquit.”

    • willbest

      Could it be any worse in the redzone than last year?

      • No alshon , Royal (or checked out Bennett) really hurt.
        Unless we were at the 1 and it was Urein time!

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          Urine was a load at the goal line. I’d use him all over the field in short yardage, as a decoy, as a lead blocker, in the fucking wishbone with Urine at FB and Langford and Carey at RB, etc

          URINE all the time.

          • I think you’ve been watching too many schizer vids lately, waffle.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            intriguing!

  • Huge Bear’s Penis
    • Sactowns#1

      Couple good ones in there,
      coaches on the sideline can communicate witgh players via headset. Makes sense
      ALL chop blocks are now illegal. (I like it on a player safety standpoint but it really gives a leg, and hence knee, up to the players who are roid monsters)
      3 challenges vs 2 (ok but I don’t think it goes far enough)
      Ability to challenge ANY play (YES)
      Expand the definition of intentional grounding (IDK what hey mean exactly but I would LOVE to see some changes to intentional grounding. Makes no sense that you can be in the grasp of a player but dribble the ball 2 yards and its a-ok)
      No OT in preseason (makes sense)
      Person foul penalties booth reviewable (ok… but this seems like it could go on FOREVER.)
      Horse collar now includes just the jersey if its nameplate or higher
      Eliminate penalty for ineligible receiver touching the ball

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        the horsecollar penalty is out of control. The majority of the calls are not horsecollars and it’s infuriating. A true horsecollar is when you pull the ballcarrier backwards or sideways and downwards while leaving your feet and rolling up on the ballcarrier causing massive injury ala Roy Williams from the Cowboys who it’s named after.

        Everything they’ve been calling a horsecollar? Not a horsecollar at all. Then they will still let guy leave their feet and pull a ballcarrier back towards them and roll up their legs and just because they didn’t have their fucking hands in the pads it’s legal?? It still breaks their legs.

        NFL rules are a joke.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Yeah, the “It’s a legal block here but not over her’ is nonsense. It’s either legal or it isn’t.

      • Irish Sweetness

        You can challenge PASS INTERFERENCE ? Holey Moley.

    • AlbertInTucson

      They need to add

      “Illegal for Ed Hochuli to officiate any more games, ever.”

  • Sactowns#1

    League says it will not clarify what a catch is. Jeebus.

    • willbest

      outstanding!!! I always love a good mystery.

    • The GP Experiment

      It’s only the thing the whole league hinges upon.

      It’s like Justice Stevens definition of pr0n: he knows it when he sees it.

      • willbest

        I prefer a “would you watch it with your mother standard”

        • The GP Experiment

          Would you watch the catch with Dez Bryant?

      • NFL. Turns this game into throw and catch, doesn’t define what a catch is.

        Perfectly sums them up

    • AlbertInTucson

      Can’t clarify what you don’t really know, can you?

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    I’d like to introduce you to Yale University. The bastards that stopped me from hitting a 5 game parlay.

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/yale-topples-baylor-to-secure-ncaa-tournament-s-first-major-upset-214135394.html

    • AlbertInTucson

      Whoops. Yale’s first ever NCAA Tourney win.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        i hedged it with a key 3 game parlay in the IBL. Thats right Al, the Israeli Basketball League

        • AlbertInTucson

          Mazel Tov!

        • Johnnywad

          You’re serious aren’t you?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            my sickness knows no limits.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Betting those 12/5 matchups is always dicey.

    • Trac

      Are all the penny stocks that bad?

  • Nice discussion of White Sox La Roche on NFLN.

    McGinnest basically said, kids stay home. Kids change the locker room dynamic.
    The other meathead (I forget his name) said he applauds the message La Roche is sending to his son.

    But when asked, “Would you leave 13M cold hard cash on the table?” he responded, “No.” lol

    • AlbertInTucson

      LaRoche is being a complete jerk.

      The Sox didn’t say “Don’t bring him”. They just would like to not have him there daily.

      What if EVERY player brought their kid(s) every day?

      And now, Adam, instead of going once in a while, your kid gets gets to NOT GO AT ALL!

      Stupid.

      Throw in pissing away $13M and it’s completely ludicrous.

      Not to mention the guy hit .207 with 12 HRs in 484 at bats last season which ain’t worth $13M.

  • AlbertInTucson

    And another #5 bites the dust.

    Perdue is perDONE.

    • willbest

      When did Purdue get good?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Don’t know.

        Further evidence of what a poor job of seeding this committee did.

        They should just let the boys in Vegas do it.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Another illini arrest. Two domestic abuse incidents, different players, same week. Getting real tired of that shit.

    • EnderWiggin

      I really hope we are done with Groce.

  • Shady

    Apparently someone banned MB from Da Blog. He’s locked out of the matrix!

    • That Guy

      This is why I have a new handle. NBIT is effectively blocked because of some glitch with verifying the account.

      • Shady

        It sounds like he can’t even access the page.

        • And here I thought he was doing a bender at some Turkish bath house!

        • Irish Sweetness

          Somebody tell him to clean out his cache.

        • The GP Experiment

          The Chargers erected a firewall around SD

  • That Guy

    Ryan Clady on the trade block. Great LT when he’s healthy, would be a great depth player. Probably available for a 7th. But his contract is untenable and the reason he’s leaving is he doesn’t want a pay cut.

    If he gets cut, do we offer him some cash to come in a back up Leno? He’d step in if either tackle got injured or if Leno sucked. But he wouldn’t be expected to make it 16 games.

    Only problem? He’d never go for it. He wants starter money and a starting gig. Some team will give it to him.

    • Yeah, no way. We’re going to find out if Leno is the real deal this year.
      Clady is always hurt too, which is why he’s on the trade block to begin with.

      As a bears fan, I’m sorta tired of inj prone Olinemen

      • AlbertInTucson

        We’re going to find out if Leno is the real deal this year”

        Unless Ronnie Stanley happens to fall to 11 in which case I think the Bears grab him.

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Great LT when he’s healthy”.

      And therein lies the problem.

      Denver tried like hell to pry Joe Thomas away from the Browns last year.

      At this point, the Browns should be trying to turn Thomas into a 1 and a 3.

      He’s under contract and by the time, if ever, the Browns get back in contention Thomas’ will be ready to retire.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We need an upgrade over Leno, but that will have to come from the draft. Leno probably starts the season and then maybe gets injured, the new guy goes in, does well, and stays there.
      I can’t watch any more has-beens come in, get over-paid and act as a liability at left tackle.
      LT is a huge priority for me, and the 11th pick might be the place to sort things out. Finally.

  • Irish Sweetness

    New Fred.

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