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Audibles From the Long Snapper: 30-for-30 Bores, 2016 Schedule Dreams, Hatman & Hoge

| February 16th, 2016

AUDIBLESNEW

Dannehy with Hatman

Having some trouble with the sound quality when transferring Soundcloud to WordPress so I’m simply embedding Andrew’s Tweet in this space. Dan Hatman is a quality follow on Twitter and his conversation with Dannehy is worth your time.

THREE THOUGHTS FROM AROUND THE BEARS

  • After a few days I can honestly say I didn’t like the 30-for-30 on the 1985 Bears. Why? (1) There was very little new information in the film. Having seen/read just about everything on the subject, ESPN offered a survey course on a subject I’ve devoted my life to. (2) The film wasn’t made very well. The focus – especially the Buddy Ryan excess – was off. The score was bizarre. The narration was poorly written and poorly cast with Vince Vaughn. (How can you not have an iconic Chicago voice attached to a project like this? Adam Jahns narrating would have sounded far better.) If you’ve never heard of this team, it’s a worthwhile investment of your time. If you know a lot about them it offers little more than a few smiles and a chance to dive once again into nostalgic waters. People who call this one of the best 30-for-30s are lost.

  • Does having or not having Matt Forte on the 2016 roster influence your record prediction for the team? It doesn’t for me and that might be reason number one Pace/Fox were willing to let Forte walk out the door. They’re putting the $5M into a position of need.
  • The following are the 10 teams with higher title odds than the Chicago Bears in 2016. (The Bears are 50-1 to win it all.) Cleveland, Jacksonville, Los Angeles, Miami, Oakland, Philadelphia, San Diego, San Francisco, Tampa Bay, Tennessee. Best part of this? Bears play five of them, four of them at home.

Hoge on Jeffery

No real new information in Adam Hoge’s piece on decision time for the Bears with Alshon Jeffery. But there was a chart I liked. Presented without comment.

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  • The Yes Guy

    YES!

  • MB30SD

    1. I liked it for the nostalgia. Made me cry. Not sure why you expected or wanted some Nancy Drew exposé…. weird.

    2. Totally agree

    3. Hmmmmm…. interesting. No doubt he changes the game… when he’s actually playing. If he was that brittle in a contract year what will he be like after the cha ching?

    Hindsight is 20/20, but what if we’re looking back at a still broken alshon but kwhite is rookie of the year. Guess that’s the thing about hindsight.

    In my mind it’s a little bit of a gamble, but one we gotta make. Just try to do the most fair deal possible.

    • SC Dave

      2. Bears will be a lesser team for not having Matt Forte.

      • MB30SD

        3. You’re WAY too nostalgic and illogical when it comes to:

        1. Your favorite players who are getting old

        2. Shitbird underdog players who actually suck balls.

        I love you but life will go on my maings. We’ll be good next year, promise.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Rumblings that the Forehead King will not retire and re-up somewhere else for a year.
    Someone will be dumb enough to sign a guy that threw 7 TDs and 19 picks, has degenerative back and neck problems, feet problems, nerve problems, missed half the season, and is currently named in a Title IX lawsuit for teabagging, harassing, and lying about the conduct of a team staff member.
    I need some popcorn.

    • MB30SD

      Why in God’s name would he do that?! Weird.

      The acrobatic teabag needs to be shown in glorious Korean animatirory recreation (yes, I made that word up)

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        That production company is a blessing to us all.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Pride? Doesn’t need the money, has his two rings now…I think it just comes down to not knowing when to walk away. We’ll see. I would think he would have put in his papers already if he intended to.

        • BerwynBomber

          Could be that he knew how poorly he played throughout the season and the SB and he wants to end on a better note. Seems odd, right? But these days, guys like Peyton and Brady are hyper -aware of their legacies. Hence, even though we see it “as good as it gets” for Manning, he may not.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      The biggest hurdle in the lawsuit is the violation of the disclosure and confidentiality agreement, so we’ll see how this pans out. This is all such bad timing too. Initial reports and inklings of such activities were brought up I believe 10 years ago? Not sure why now is better than the prior?

      • MB30SD

        20

    • BerwynBomber

      Don’t forget the PED allegations. I am sensing that story will not go away as quickly as Manning and his team of PR reps and P.I.s might wish.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        sshhh!!! you are going to be visited by Mannings henchmen.. I mean P.I.s

    • Sactowns#1

      He wants to be the all time winningest QB. One more win and he’s got a record that’s hard to break.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Didn’t he get that in the SB?

  • burntorangenavyblue

    How do you enlighten a person who is already an expert at mentioned subject? You should perhaps lower your expectations when it comes to watching or reading anything Bears related so that you’re not disappointed Jeff.

    Perhaps you could or should do your own take or spin on the 85 Bears. Since it’s clear your passion is more evident than most other Bears experts, you just might get more interesting information and tidbits out of it than the people who put together the 30 for 30 special. Who knows?

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    I completely disagree with you on the 30 for 30. What new information did you expect them to include? Vince Vaughn did a great job narrating. Adam Jahns? really? I know he talks to you occasionally, but he is completely unknown nationally and has only been covering the Bears for the last what, 5 years? I’d rather have Jim Belushi’s fuzzy nutsack handle it then Adam Jahns. I do agree they included old Buddy a little too much, but it did frame the story in a new and fairly interesting way.

    • The GP

      Also, Jahns sounds like Ron Howard after inhaling helium. What a crazy choice for narration.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m not advocating for Jahns to have a career in voice overs but he definitely has the Chicago accent.

        • MB30SD

          So does shady when I’m lighting him up at the waterpark.

          He gets all sensitive about it when I do my Chicago accent for him. Hee hee

    • That Guy

      I’ve not seen any of the 30 for 30s, but ESPN is not a network for sports experts. Its a network for the casual fan and the meathead (which together make up more than 2/3 of the money in sports).

      I do wonder if Jeff’s impression of 30 for 30 is consistent with other shows covering other folk’s favorites. Is this just a typical reaction when a superfan sees his favorite player or team distilled into an “accessible” single show?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Watch Schwarzenegger’s. Best motivational film I ever saw.

  • The GP

    Fuck Elway, fuck his trophy, fuck the Broncos.

    • MB30SD

      Your love for Denver is bottomless. Hahaha

  • BerwynBomber

    Another knock I heard on the ’85 Bears 30 for 30 is that the filmmakers used some footage from different years (’84, ’86, ’87, etc) and passed it off as footage from ’85.

    • CanadaBear

      That’s disappointing to rabid fans like us but to the general public it makes no difference.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Well, of course they did. The story of the ’85 Bears starts well before 1985.

      The piece starts with the defense writing the letter to Papa Bear to save Buddy’s job.

      • BillW

        I’ll watch it again eventually when I need a football fix, but my recollection is the same. They showed stuff from other years but never passed it off as 85. They showed 84 and the NFCC loss to SF and their determination to get back.

        Then they showed 86 and the disappointment of not repeating – along with the “midget” effect of Ditka getting Flutie when he had two decent backups already.

        Side note – McMichael was very under control and as a result VERY entertaining. “We had the clowns and the giant in the circus and so we added a midget”>)

        • AlbertInTucson

          I liked Butt-Head telling his fiance before the season started that “We have to change our wedding date. The Bears are gonna be playing in the Super Bowl.

          • Doc Nitty

            What idiot plans his wedding that week if you play pro ball? It’s like saying you don’t think your team is good enough.

          • AlbertInTucson

            He was a rookie. His nickname was “Butthead.”

  • CanadaBear

    For me the Bears 30 for 30 was worth it just for the Jimbo Covert story about body slamming McMichael. The Buddy stuff went on a little too long but it also was the moist poignant piece in the entire broadcast. For me, the most tired piece was Walter not scoring a TD in the SB. I was sick of that story a couple of decades ago. Doesn’t paint Walter in a very positive light.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Loved McMichael’s self depricating: “I forgot he was an all-state wrestler”.

      There was no guarantee Walter ever gets in for a TD, even in close, the way the Patriots over-committed every time he got the ball or even looked like he was getting the ball.

      Fencik defends Ditka on the concept that he should have been concerned about getting Walter a TD.

      Walter’s post game pout was definitely not one of his finest moments.

      The previously unavailable access to Buddy was a major impetus for this piece.
      Having been granted the access, the wanted to make the most of it and yeah, probably went too long with it.

      Vince Vaughn as narrator? Yeah, pretty “Meh”,

      I found the info on McMahon’s neck issue affecting his brain and his subsequently getting some relief pretty compelling.

      • CanadaBear

        I forgot about the McMahon neck/brain issue. You’re right, that was compelling. Totally agree about Walter scoring. It was obvious in the 1st quarter that NE was going to sell out to stop Walter. They over committed so much, every time there was a fake to Walter it was practically an automatic first down (at least). The Vince Vaughan thing didn’t even register with me. Somebody has to do the voice over and as long as it isn’t Gilbert Gottfired (who I love as a comedian) or somebody else with a crazy annoying voice, who cares?

        • BillW

          30/30 showed that clearly on a McMahon score. Half the defense followed Walter to the (Bear’s) right, and McMahon scored easily from the left.

          When the crowd began to cheer “Walter! Walter!” and it was obvious the Bears were trying to get him a TD, stopping him was the only small consolation the Patriots had.

          To continue to make such a big deal about it diminishes what a thorough beat down that game was – the largest margin of victory in SB history at the time.

          • AlbertInTucson

            If the Bears don’t hand the Patriopts 3 point on that fumble, the Patriots would have gotten nothing because Buddy would never have called off the dogs at 46-3 and it would have been 46-0.

          • CanadaBear

            I’ve said that ever since that game.

          • AlbertInTucson

            3 straight post-season shutouts would have been an EPIC legacy.

          • SC Dave

            Operative being *would* have.

          • CanadaBear

            Look who idolizes him Dave. It’s the Super Fan. You know, the guys that talk all the time and make a big show of being a Bears fan but have almost no knowledge of the organization, history or football in general.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He built that team. He walked in and said what he was going to do, and he did it.
            Nobody has done it since.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I wouldn’t blame Singletary – Buddy made them blitz.

          • BillW

            Bearszz: A hunderd and tree;
            Patriots nuttin!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Can you imagine that? Never could they take away greatest single-season defense tag if you go through the playoffs and super bowl without allowing a single point.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Wally got the ball 22 frickin times. It’s not like he was kept on the bench, though that was an option … he’d already fumbled it away at the start.

    • Trac

      Can you really be a die hard Bears fan and NOT know all the material in the 30-30 special on the 85 Bears? Just sayin.

  • That Guy

    Inside Linebacker Scouting Reports from Walter

    Myles Jack: http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2016mjack.php

    Reggie Ragland: http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2016rragland.php

    Kentrell Brothers: http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2016kbrothers.php

    Scooby Wright: http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2016swright.php

    Jack and Ragland both seem like solid choices for #11. Jack is more of a coverage guy, Ragland more of a thumper. Both are special players. If I’m the Bears, I pick the one that I believe best projects as a team leader.

    Brothers remains a really nice second tier option in my mind. We can’t fill every position in the first round; if the Bears go with, say, an edge rusher at #11, they won’t get a shot at Ragland or Jack again. Brothers could be a good choice as soon as the second round.

    Wright is a darkhorse. He could be available as late as the fifth round depending on how things play out, but he’s a solid skill set that could see him starting in a 3-4 system that allows for more diverse skill sets. The biggest issue with him is that he’s a tweener physically. He could be another Shea, which would suck in a first round pick, but really isn’t a terrible downside for a mid-rounder.

    • Trac

      Full Metal Jack – et baby!

      • DaMurph

        Stop stop stop!!! Dude is too small to play inside. This is the NFL!!

        • Sactowns#1

          I’m still looking at taking some of Denver’s cast offs.

        • Trac

          He has skills and more importantly, he has heart my man.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I read that the first time as…”he has my heart, man”….
            Which would’ve been a sweet sentiment, Trac.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            And who doesn’t butter their own cornbread, maing?

          • DaMurph

            Yeah, thats what they said about McClellin, He is 6’1 225. Can he play safety or corner? Cause he isnt linebacker size. Name me a 6’1 225 pound linebacker that is a difference maker? We can NOT afford a miss, by takin and undersized player that has knee injury issues!!!! Come on man!!!

          • Sactowns#1

            Luke Kuechly,, Sean Lee, Nate Stupar…. shall I go on?

          • DaMurph

            Kuechly 6’3 238 good knees, Lee 6’2 238 ( never played 16 games) Stupar 6’2 240…..yes you shall go on, find that 6’1 225 linebacker with knee issues that is a difference maker. Jack has played 2 years and 3 games, has 1 sack and 4 interceptions, he made tackles at UCLA thats it. He WAS fast but the NFL is fast. We cant afford a miss drafting at 11!!! Drafting potential hasnt paid off real well for us.

          • BerwynBomber

            And Sean Lee gets hurt every year. He’s glass.

          • SC Dave

            Based on those numbers, he sounds like a highlight reel stuperstar. No thanks.

          • Trac

            15 pounds is not that hard to add in the weight room. Child Pa-leese. Hahaha

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            That’s true. Manning added at least 10 lbs to his forehead and he didn’t even lift!

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            that’s caused by HGH.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Duuuuude.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Sam Mills. 5’9 230.

            Mike Singletary. 6’0 230.

            Size of the heart !

          • DaMurph

            Thats 30 years ago Irish, all the men were smaller

          • SC Dave

            Size matters

          • Trac

            The record is wrong.

      • I love Myles Jack. He plays like he’s on coke, which is the ultimate compliment, just ask LT!

        But I too think he’s too small for the 1st round. He reminds me of a more explosvie Kendricks, and in spite of Data loving Kendricks in the 1st, he fell to the 2nd cuz he too was undersized.

        Usually, those type of players become 4-3 Wills (like Briggs) where the D essentially funnels the rb to him while keeping them clean.

        Unless we have a specific plan for Jack, I say get him in the 2nd.

        (but no doubt when he lights it up on the combine, shit might change).

        Maybe could be a Shybrid like Buchannon on the Cards?

        • Trac

          That’s cray cray. The Bears will make sure he adds some bulk.

          • I don’t think he has the frame to add too much bulk and still be effective (without his knees giving out)
            Like Ricky Martin says, it’s all in the hips.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis
          • DaMurph

            He already has had knee issues, I can only imagine how that will hold up with more bulk added on.

          • SC Dave

            They can’t ‘make sure’ of anything

          • DaMurph

            They tried that with McClellin, howd that work out? Then it was lose weight and try another position. You have such a short memory lately. Early onset of dementia my friend?

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            McClellin just sucked. The Bears had Idonoje lose weight one year to move outside then gain it back to move back inside. He was not a great player but he could play. You have to have some skills and instincts first.

          • Trac

            That happens all the time with draft picks Murph. If Jack is available at #11 and the Bears don’t take him, I will never let you live it down because he’s going to make some team very very happy.

          • DaMurph

            If he is there and we dont take him and he turns into a star impact player dinner is on me the next time we cross paths, if not you buy, deal??

          • Irish Sweetness

            They didn’t with Shamus ….

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          Jack hasn’t not been cleared yet to perform a lot of activities at the Combine.

      • That Guy

        For what our team needs, it seems like Ragland is the better fit. But I still lean toward Brothers in the second round if we can make that happen. I think there is less risk and comparable upside with some of the other defensive players out there at #11.

        Still, Ragland and Jack are both the kind of guys that could be drafted elsewhere and make us jealous for the next decade. San Fran, Tampa Bay, Miami and maybe NYG all draft before us and could go ILB. I’m not seeing value in trading up for either of them.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We cannot draft a man called ‘Scooby’.

  • willbest

    The chart is obviously the one the Bears will send to his agent. Its also disingenuous. Jeffery in addition to being injured wasn’t a rookie sensation, and only started 6 of the 10 games he played in 2012. You can hold the injuries against him in the durability department, but you can’t hold his first year stats against him because he isn’t that receiver anymore. And 2015 shows that he can do it without BMarsh taking a lot of the heat.

    At which point (excludes rookie year and bear in mind he still missed 7 games in 2015 or he would have crushed everybody on yards and receptions)
    Yards/yr – 1120
    TDs/yr – 7
    rec/yr – 76

    Like I said 5 years 70 million, lower guarantees. And that probably suits Jeffery just fine. By selling 13% of his future earnings for $8 million, he is basically outsourcing his guarantees to third parties. Which should allow him to bet on himself Revis style. Bigger money, less security.

    • Trac

      At this point, I really don’t see Pace letting young talent walk outta Halas Hall. Can’t see them passing on at least offering a rock solid contract to Alshon. Not with all the Cap space they got.

      • SC Dave

        We’ll see. Ego gets in people’s way often.

  • CanadaBear

    Hey MB, did you see Lindsey Vonn in body paint? I knew she was under endowed but holy crap is she flat chested. Esp when you consider she’s probably 5’10” and 160 lbs (at least).

    • beninnorcal

      That’s probably a good thing for skiing. Boobs aren’t light or aerodynamic.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Lovely lady, IMO.

        • CanadaBear

          Definitely pretty. Great smile. She certainly deserves better than the likes of Matthews or Tiger.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      I love Vonn.

  • BillW

    In 2008 Barrack Obama won the presidency and had a rally in Grant Park. In 1968 the Democrats had a convention in Chicago and there were “disturbances” in the same area. I sent a few pictures of “before and after” to co-workers and I was shocked how many knew nothing at all about the trouble at the ’68 convention.

    Of course most of them had not even been born. What was real-time for me was (obscure) history for many.

    Not a political statement – but context for Jeff. Time to recognize that the ’85 Bears are history. In football terms, nearly ancient history. To assume that no one is interested in the 30 for 30 just because you know everything about it is rather self centered of you.

    My two boys were 4 and <1 at the time. They both thoroughly enjoyed the special. They got a view of what that year was like that "the old man's" stories couldn't give them. But man, we had many many conversations since we all saw it. And I got to see it from their point of view. Similar to my hearing about the Bears of the 40s.

    It was an honor to a team and memory I will cherish forever. And may I point out that TWICE this year I heard coaches of other teams describing their disappointment in their offense by saying something like "it's not like we were playing the '85 Bears."

    "The '85 Bears" is code for an overwhelming defense that you have no hope against. Many people now have an idea of why that phrase may never die. Well done Vince Vaughn!

    • AlbertInTucson

      The ’68 convention was a complete circus in Chicago. Spawned the term “Police Riot”.

      • BillW

        My sister went down there. I was young enough for my parents to forbid me to go. They didn’t know I didn’t want to. While I was against the war, I didn’t see any value in getting in the middle of something like that.

  • Trac

    Hey Jeff, it doesn’t matter what you think! Don’t cross the Rock baby.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uPRy7YG2F0k

  • beninnorcal

    I’m going to respectfully disagree with Jeff in regards to the 30 for 30 special. I know there could’ve probably been more actual ’85 Bears that paticipated and Vince Vaughn maybe wasn’t the best fit, but I didn’t think it was bad. I thought it was actually pretty good. Quite a year and quite a team, seem’s like a good movie plot.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Also, it was the 30th Anniversary of that squad. They DESERVED a special.

      • Scharfinator

        30 for 30 for 30?

        • AlbertInTucson

          Exactly!

    • Doc Nitty

      He’s just zagging when everyone thought he’d zig (being a Bears fan). It’s journalistic license to spur interest and conflict.

  • The GP

    http://tinyurl.com/jjaw7bj

    The answer to this puzzle is, apparently, 14. Anyone explain why?

    • BillW

      The first diagram contains 5 squares. The second – 14.

      • The GP

        It’s that U of C education, isn’t it?

        • BillW

          Yeah – we studied worthless shit like that all the time!

          Second City did a sketch once on why U of C gave up football (they have since brought it back as Division III or IV or V or whatever).

          The team argued with the coaches on technicalities like not calling it the 20 yard line since a line goes on forever. They insisted on calling it the 20 yard line segment. That’s the only part I remember.

          • Doc Nitty

            That’s funny. You know, between us math nerds.

          • That Guy

            No. Not even between us math nerds. 😉

        • SC Dave

          No, simple observation

          • BillW

            Yes. I assumed the u of c reference was a friendly jab. Actually I solve puzzles as a hobby to hopefully ward off what’s his name’s disease

          • Scharfinator

            Hah I see what you did there!

    • Doc Nitty

      Number of distinct squares.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Yep, 14. There’s the obvious 10, then there’s the upper left quadrant, upper right quadrant, bottom left quadrant, bottom right quadrant. I see this shit in seconds but I have less than no money.

  • Jeffery should get Hilton $ in my estimation.
    Yeah, he might be better than him WHEN HE PLAYS, but that’s the thing, right?

    Give him Hilton $, a lil more in the bonus due to inflation, if not, tag him.

    Also, Demaryius Thomas is a buster. He wilts when it counts.

    • SC Dave

      Or a little less, with incentives based on games played and performance that could result in substantially more

      • MB30SD

        Dis

      • That Guy

        Everyone loves the big incentives. Its not going to be a huge percentage of the deal. Maybe $2MM a year based on playing time, but that’s still going to be after a $13MM base.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I couldn’t believe Hilton’s contract.
      But it’s guys like DeAndre Hopkins and OBJr that are turning heads, not Alshon … I just can’t see where he’s shown he’s a #1 guy. I mean KW is supposed to be that guy, isn’t he?

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Bears ’16 schedule couldn’t be easier”

    A kiss of death if I EVER heard one.

    • That Guy

      Oakland will get good quickly. Carr is the real thing. I could easily see them win the division next year, though I’m not sure I respect Del Rio quite that much.

    • Big Mike

      The “tough” games and the “easy” games forecast in March is always fun to play in hindsight.

    • willbest

      It is a mistake to look at the NFCE and AFCS and say, woot! Most those teams are fewer pieces away from being legit playoff contenders than the Bears. Best to wait until after the draft before we get excited.

      • Irish Sweetness

        If you’re going to win a superbowl you have to be able to beat the best, so the schedule never bothers me.

  • AlbertInTucson
    • SC Dave

      The only.surprise would be if pace’s pablum changed

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        because he is a heartless bastard that is just reading a script. I can see getting rid of Forte, but Bushrod is a total shock to me, our offense is going to fall apa… sorry could not even continue typing that. right decision on both.

        • BillW

          I thought Barb was back

        • Big Mike

          This team has gone 11-21 the last 2 years. Change has to happen. Might have kept Forte, sorry to see him go. The decisiveness is what the big boys do. Who knows what the cap money buys. Bushrod, was a no brainer. $8 million of for a broken, back up LT. Nay.

          • AlbertInTucson

            …who (Bushrod) needs shoulder surgery.

        • willbest

          Wait you think Spending $8 million on a person who wasn’t healthy heading into the season, lost his starting job to the backup, and isn’t healthy now despite low work the second half of the season is a sound investment?

          The guy’s body broke down. It is sad, but it happened.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            nope, not what i said, I need a sarcasm button i guess. I said right on both decisions meaning it was right to cut both Forte and Bushrod.

          • willbest

            Yeah my bad. You gut checked me, and I let loose a haymaker before assessing the situation.

        • MB30SD

          Jeeesss

        • SC Dave

          I like sarcasm

    • That Guy

      Officially he failed a physical. Shoulder injury still not right. Obviously the team could have kept him around, but they made the right move.

      Got to respect the decisiveness from Pace. A bullet to the head is better than 4 in the gut. Forte and Bushrod will both have all the opportunity possible to get in with another team and maximize their value.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Crap, I wanted to go to the draft this year, but I have tickets to Sesame Street Live the night before…
    #firstworlddadproblems

    • CanadaBear

      You’re becoming a good dad right before our eyes! Congrats!

      • DaMurph

        Hes been a good dad for a long long time!! Only stain on his record is something about a Wheaties box! Ha! Hes a good man, great dad, his politics? Meh! Hahaha!!

        • CanadaBear

          I’m always late to the party.

    • AlbertInTucson

      We did a SESAME STREET LIVE about 25 years ago. “Put down the ducky!”

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I still have this cassette tape (I can hear the younguns saying, ‘wassat?’)…
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyGGvpUoF6k

        • AlbertInTucson

          My Daughter was mightily entertained. Frankly, so were her parents.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Her TV viewing was restricted to PBS until she was 6 or 7.

            Without exposure to commercials, we never experienced the dreaded “I want THAT tantrum at the grocery store.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Unfortunately, mine has been exposed to quite a bit of that stuff at her other house, so the cow is out of the barn.

          • CanadaBear

            DAMN!

          • Trac

            Just wait till the roosters start crowing.

        • Irish Sweetness

          That got me on to fat cat sat hat. I know what somebody’s watching tonight ….

      • BillW

        I remember that song! My kids and I loved it.

      • BearDown100393

        Overheard pre-game at Lambeau….

    • Irish Sweetness

      On acid, it might be a thing.

      “We are the people in your neighbourhood … in your neighbourhood ….”

  • AlbertInTucson

    This how “dumb/incompetent” Roger Goodell is:

    His compensation for 2014 (The year of the Ray Rice Debacle) was $34 Million.

    His take as NFL Czar to date: $180M.

    • CanadaBear

      If I remember correctly there was a 1 or something like that after the decimal point. That’s more than a lot of people make in a year and probably what he actually earned last year. Of course, this is a fans take on it. The owners love him because they’ve never made so much money.

      • AlbertInTucson

        And 2014 will be the last year they have to make it public.

    • BearDown100393

      As long as the networks kowtow and the NFLPA accepts the salary cap and arbitrary fines, Goodell will have that job for life. Or whenever his Duracell checks out.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’ll suck Satan’s cock for 180M wazoos.

  • The GP

    Irish –

    You teach children to live in a cashless society.

    http://tinyurl.com/zhk75qo

    Larry Summers just gave a speech saying the $100 bill should be abolished.

    http://tinyurl.com/jeox4j5

    And the road to the cashless society begins. You can’t impose negative interest rates without it, and if you can’t impose negative interest rates, your hands are tied in the global currency wars underway. It’s the same argument to abolish 500s and 100s, as it is to abolish bitcoin: criminals use it. That is Summers argument in a nutshell. It’s the currency war equivalent of invading Iraq on a WMD pretext: we have to get to them before they get to us.

    • Trac

      The chip implant in evra persons body is right around the corner and jess, cash is fast becoming a thing of the past.

      • Irish Sweetness

        What to do when it comes? Don’t have the chip – or, and here’s where 1984 kicks in, when they deactivate yours for being a bad machine- and what then? You’re officially outside/off the grid,and that won’t be a good place to be.

    • SC Dave

      The primary purpose is to enable governments to tax every transaction. What people need to learn is barter so that they do not become entirely enslaved to satisfying the endlessly rapacios world improvers seeking to impose their idea of a better world.

      That and to confiscate the wealth of savers. The wealthiest will, as always, escape unscathed, as they have been feverishly collecting fungible assets that can be easily taken off the grid (stamps, art, other collectibles).

      • Trac

        It’s worse than that Dave. It’s so that every person can be controlled.

        • SC Dave

          I know, Irish. For the world improvers. Or so they think… brings to mind the term “useful idiots”

      • AlbertInTucson

        Piss on the concept of “Cashless Society”.

        Twice.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Star Trek dude. Star Trek. Roddenberry was a cat, see?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Art and collectibles are fungible?

        • SC Dave

          No… wrong term. Sorry.

          What I meant was they are readily bought and sold, at least in the right circles

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Well, they are tangible, but like you said, they are only liquid in the right environment…but you are correct in the sense that it’s awful hard for most people to convert their net worth into art and collectibles.
            Whether that’s an asset class I would want to be vested in during an economic collapse, I would say no.

          • Johnnywad

            How big a collapse? Like, wish I was invested a bit more in bonds and cash? Or like, Holy Fuck I hope I can learn to hunt and trap?

            The first kind only matters if you’re retired or about to. The second kind means we’re all fucked so none of it matters.

            I’m just planning to work until I can’t, and screw off as much as possible along the way. Problem solved.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I got no problem with that

          • MB30SD

            guns, pussy, and gold dave… when the zombie apocalypse goes down

          • DaMurph

            In that order, right?

          • MB30SD

            no… pussy, guns, gold

          • Johnnywad

            Bullshit. Pussy, Pussy, Gold.

          • MB30SD

            Hmmmm… intriguing. Do you have a newsletter sign up page you can provide the URL for…

          • Johnnywad

            Imagine the Google search…… Sadly I run my business through this phone. Prolly best not soil it

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’ll get my Samurai sword over from Ireland somehow. When the shit goes down, it’s Lone Wolf and Cubs.

          • MB30SD

            I’m all set
            I have a survival machete and ax, then all my high powered goodies and plenty of ammo. Hole up and defend for the first 6 months, then go out and conquer

      • Sactowns#1

        Gonna drain my hot tub and start making bourbon.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Did I tell you guys about my bank back in Ireland?
      So I had an overdraft account since I was in college just after the famine (no fkn way anyone gets one of them now). The limit on it was 870 Euro or whatever. So that’s pretty much where I operate – owing the bank about that much in perpetuity. I’d have to give them the guts of a thousand dollars, just to have zero cash – I have less than no-money.

      They would have been doing their quarterly interest charges on having an overdraft or whatever, and realized they couldn’t add on the charge as I was maxed out. So what did they do? They increased my overdraft limit to allow them to charge me the money plus the ten bucks they charged me to send me a fkn letter to tell me that I had no money !!

      You’re so fkn poor … we’re going to make you even poorer.

      You couldn’t make that up.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I have no doubt that happens soon, and it will all be done with the number of the beast on a chip in your left thumb. I’m not religious, but that shit is in Revelations.

      By the bye, I was looking into more of these your-birth-cert-is-a-trust-in-USA Inc. videos.
      The one thing I found in common with these very interesting talks on the aftermath of 1933 was that ultimately there’s a link at the end, where you can send money to access your … ahyoumuddaf*ckers @#%$!

  • Bender McLugh
    • AlbertInTucson

      “Hold the Mayo, please.”

    • AlbertInTucson

      MY favorite Mayo was Virginia Mayo. ’40s-’50s movie star.

      Cagney’s unfaithful moll in WHITE HEAT and Gregory Peck’s love interest in CAPT. HORATIO HORNBLOWER among many others

  • BillW

    What I didn’t know
    “Second City blossomed from UChicago roots”

    http://www.uchicago.edu/features/20091207_sahlins/

    In another popular sketch, “Football Comes to the University of Chicago,” a coach attempted to teach four undergraduates the basic rules of football—with disastrous results. When first confronted with the football, one student exclaims, “Why, it’s a demi-poly-tetrahedron!” The coach, doing his best not to lose patience, reminds his ragtag team that “we have a left guard and a right guard—no Kierkegaard here, gentlemen.”

  • Sactowns#1

    I was out skiing so I didn’t get a chance to chime in, and I know you’re all anxiously awaiting my opinion on the topic, so here goes. I think the utter refusal to resign Forte is a silly and downright stupid move. When negotiating a sale or purchased I have never once said “nah I’m not even going to entertain an offer”. Why the hell would you? You wait to see what the market dictates and you go from there. This regime is looking like amateur hour.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      how is it amateur hour? teams do this all the time. If they give him a low ball offer, he gets offended and bitches and pouts like Lach did.

      • Johnnywad

        This is far from amateur hour. This is more like a Patriots move than a Bears move. Perhaps with a slightly more personal touch than Belichik would have left on it.

    • beninnorcal

      I love me some Forte, but this regime is making the right call. No way can we afford to pay him AND Alshon, Alshon is probably 5 years younger. We need as much free cash as possible for the other side of the ball.
      Forte needs to play for a team ready to compete for a championship NOW.

    • Trac

      Players hit the open market all the time trying to get more money Sac. You’re not sipping too much peppermint schnapps on the slopes are you?

    • That Guy

      If I want to spend $250 on a suit, I don’t bother walking into the Armani store at the mall. The Bears knew they weren’t going to get close to what Forte wants (or what other teams are willing to pay).

    • Irish Sweetness

      Might be savvy, Sac. They’ve said “he’s 30, we’ve got 3 young colts in the barn, and we can always draft another and pay him peanuts”.

      I just hope it means Christmas is coming early and the cheque book is coming out for some sexy signings.

      BTW – Did you pass GP going the wrong way up the slope?

  • The GP

    Newton says only losers are good sports when they lose.

    Then he said he ain’t no role model, apologized for nothing and reiterated how he is destined for greatness

    So, you know, fuck him

    • Johnnywad

      This doesn’t end well for him. He doesn’t even know it yet. When he reverts to form, the knives will already be sharpened. I know mine is.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      am I the only one that interpreted Newton’s quote “You show me a good loser and I’m going to show you a loser”, as in a good loser is still someone that LOST. So many people (talking heads and fans alike) are taking the loser comment in a derogatory way and bashing him over it. I don’t personally like how he handle the situation but he is on record several times saying he is a sore loser.

    • Ain’t no one seen anything like him?

      I can think of another running QB who completed about 52% of his passes and was also a great college QB.

      Ryhmes with Zebus.

      Is it racist if I tell cam to get his fucking shinebox?

      Oh well…Cam, get jo fucking shinebox and make Von Miller’s mvp trophy shine like the sun.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He was dead wrong on every point. You’re a loser if gracious in defeat? No, you’re a gentleman.
      He’s not a role model? You’re not only an NFL QB, you’re the frickin’ league MVP !!

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

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