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Three Post-Draft Thoughts

| May 7th, 2015

Denver Broncos Rookie Minicamp

Adam Gase has to love this opportunity.

He has one of the league’s top backs, one of the league’s top tight ends, a terrific receiving corps (especially if Kevin White makes an immediate impact) and a quarterback that can make every throw. The unit has two holes: health/production from right tackle and the decision-making of the quarterback. Gase’s system should mitigate both to an extent with a run-heavy approach and quick, timing throws. Gase is going to be a head coach in 2016.

I have no clue what the defense will be (and neither do you).

For people who believe the Bears defense hasn’t improved enough this offseason, I ask this question: how the hell does anybody know? There’s an entirely new scheme by entirely new and vastly-improved coaches. There’s a new safety, a new corner, an entirely new linebacking corps (including conversions of defensive ends) and a completely rebuilt defensive line. If you told me the Bears defense would be in the top half of the NFL next season, how could I argue? (Of course the same would go for the opposite.)

One thing I will tell you is they will be tougher and nobody will be putting 50 spots on them.

Who returns kicks?

Bears only have one player on their official roster listed as a kick returner: Marc Mariani. If I were the Bears I would give Jeremy Langford a shot at the job this summer.

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  • BerwynBomber

    Langford, I don’t believe, returned kicks in college. Plus, he will be groomed as Forte’s heir apparent. My bet is Mariani retains his KR/PR job.

    Has Eddie Royal or the Jizz ever returned kicks?

    • Royal did punts a bit, not kickoffs in years. Rodgers returned until Hester showed up but wasn’t very good at it.

      • BerwynBomber

        My bet is they will go with Royal or Jizz before Langford. Certainly for PR and probably KR too.

    • willbest

      I liked Mariani, though perhaps that was due to low expectations set by his predecessors. Anyway they won’t be using JoeD’s schemes and the whole bottom half of the roster is getting churned over so who knows if he will fit in next year.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I guess if it comes down to our kick returner then we’re in a lot of trouble as a franchise. If they don’t score, we don’t return, except to open the game.

    • Johnnywad

      After last year, I’d settle for the ball out at the 20. Seemed like they kept running it out from 8 yards deep and getting tackled around the 12. Just take a knee.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Excited for the upcoming season. Pace is not getting “too cute” with being the GM and I like that. Fox will coach this team like they’re winners, regardless of their record this season.

  • beninnorcal

    I thought Mariani did pretty good last season, but that’s just comparing him to everyone who’s tried since #23 left.

    As far as the defense, not sure we see it this year, but I’m pretty sure they can turn things around under Fangio. That, to me, is the most exciting thing about these new Bears. I’m hoping he sticks around to maybe take over at HC eventually.

    • SC Dave

      Devin spoiled us for sure.

  • NewBearInTown

    I think we will see similar improvement to the defense in Chicago as we saw in New Orleans when Rob Ryan took over as DC.
    We don’t have the players to be the best in the league, but we do have some talent. A good coach, a good scheme, some good work from our new additions will all combine to help us move to being average again.
    And after last year, average is pretty good.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Is it just me or are the denials coming from the Northeast starting to smell like Lance Armstrong?

    • NewBearInTown

      I mentioned that a bit last thread. The intimidation and threats are very similar, but probably common among highly competitive athletes. “You might think you can beat me, but if you mess up, I will make you pay.” Could be Lance Armstrong, Tom Brady, or any linebacker in the NFL talking to a tight end.

    • MorganW

      What denials?…I’ve yet to hear an opinion from Brady on the findings and the team wasn’t implicated in the “scandal.” The coverage is kind of getting a little weird. While the deflation of the balls were a rule violation, there is no way that that one thing was responsible for the outcomes of the games or even close to it. So, can the equipment guys and fine and/or suspend Brady and let’s be done with it. I think it puts a reason behind the patriots/Belichik/Brady hating because let’s face it, everyone hates the team that consistently wins if it’s not yours. It’s human nature.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “What denials?”

        Don Yee speaks for Brady, Morgan, and he has succeeded in making a bad situation worse.

  • HappyFave

    You are delusional to think he is excited to work with Cutler. Every coach to ever touch Cutler has been fired.

    • NewBearInTown

      Every coach to ever coach in the NFL has been fired.

      • willbest

        Surely there have been a coach or two that died as HC.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Lombardi.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Halas was never fired.

          • willbest

            Advantages of being the owner.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Parcells always seemed to leave leave as HIS choice.

          • AlbertInTucson

            To be sure.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Trac, perfect opportunity to weigh in.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          Don’t think Bill Cowher was fired

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          Bill Walsh was never fired as a HC either

          • Waffle

            haha, so we’ve pretty much concluded that sometimes Hall of Fame coaches or legends of the league don’t get fired….
            Ahhh, the long line of great coaching minds that met fiery coaching death…
            Turner (not the good one)
            Martz
            Tice
            Trestman
            Feast your eyes on this murderers row of qb coaches, analysts, retired analysts, OL coaches and Canadian League mentors of men.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            fine you want a non legend? Bobby Petrino resigned from Atlanta after 13 games to return to College so technically he was not fired.

          • BearDown100393

            Jerry Burns also.

          • BerwynBomber

            I’d contend Martz was an above average NFL OC. His systems may have been outdated. He was a bit wacky. His people skills may have been lacking. He was certainly flawed. But … chances are solid he will go down as a better OC than Cutty was a QB in the NFL annals.

            Likewise the book is not closed yet on Trestman as an OC. We will have to see how he does in BALT while weighing the rest of his career.

            Tice was in over his head. He was an O-line coach. That was his ceiling. But everyone hated Martz and gravitated toward Tice as some sort of savior. That was madness.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            what idiots would gravitated towards Tice to become OC?

          • BearDown100393

            Tice was a bad OC but that really was not his doing. As you pointed out, he was hired to coach the O-line. He ended up with a promotion by default.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Then he should have hired an assistant, a smart young up and comer and made him the de facto OC. When you’re put in a job, it has to get done whether it’s you or somebody else. Trying to do it yourself and failing repeatedly makes you a gimp. A non-gimp that can’t do it hires the assistant. Tice was a gimp.

          • BearDown100393

            I agree but there is also the possibility that nobody wanted to be Tice’s de facto OC. After all, nobody wanted to be Smith’s OC either.

          • Waffle

            Martz was a solid professional OC except that he couldn’t adapt his offense and it resulted in us trying to execute it with none of the pieces that were utilized during his glory days in STL. Angelo had the offense stocked with fucking losers and it resulted in Martz trying to make Hester into Az Hakim…..which sadly he is not…..Knox into Torry Holt and Bennett into Ricky Proehl.
            It got so bad, if you remember, that Cutler would get hit even when he threw an instantaneous pop pass to Bennett or Olson. That was fucked up.

          • BerwynBomber

            Mostly agree but the best Cutty ever looked as a Bear was under Martz in those first nine or ten game of that one year before the thumb injury.

        • BearDown100393

          Jimmie Johnson was never fired as a NFL head coach.

        • BearDown100393

          Barry Switzer was never fired as a a NFL head coach.

        • BearDown100393

          Don Shula was never fired as a NFL head coach.

        • BearDown100393

          John Harbaugh was never fired as a NFL head coach.

        • BearDown100393

          Jim Harbaugh was never fired as a NFL head coach.

        • BearDown100393

          Tom Coughlin was fired by the Panthers but Wayne Weaver called it his biggest mistake. So half a point?

        • BearDown100393

          Nick Saban was never fired as a NFL head coach. But he should have been.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Jumped before he was pushed…?

        • Fun fact. Supposedly Leslie Neilson didn’t get the jokes, so that’s why he was able to tell it with such a straight face. Other actors who tried out for the part kept cracking up, but supposedly Neilson didn’t find it funny, so he was able to do the lines so matter of factly , which the directors loved.

    • Yeah, I doubt Gase and gang are “excited” about Cutler (or else why would they have seriously looked into mortgaging their draft for Mariota?).

      Seems to me like they’re trying to build the line, HBs and WR to limit Cutler as much as possible.
      That’s not exactly being “thrilled”.

      It’s like buying a new car then saying, ‘I’m gonna drive it only when absolutely necessary’.

      When you buy a Ferarri, you’re so pumped you drive it if you’re just going down the block. When you buy a Yugo, you duck your head when hot chicks pass by.

      Cutler is a Yugo.

      • SC Dave

        Only to church on Sundays, you meant?

      • Waffle

        A Yugo? Revise much my man?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Brady’s mouthpiece’s explanation is laughable.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Brady broke rules & should be punished. Notion his legacy is tarnished is poppycock. Watched him play like Montana in Chicago blizzard.”

    Sorry. Don’t care.

    Cheating is now part of said legacy which IS therefore, “tarnished”.

    The “Poppycock” is the notion that it is NOT.

    This also begs the question: First time he cheated or just the first time he got caught?

    The “I don’t know McNally” baldfaced lie only makes him look worse.

    And DON”T tell me Belicheat didn’t know, either.

    • BearDown100393

      Amazing how football head coaches, aka obsessive control freaks, know everything about their football programs except cheating and illegal activities.

    • BillW

      I said this in the other thread. Deflated footballs seem to be a factor in the Patriots low fumble rate. Maybe contributed to a win or more somewhere that gave them a bye that helped them in the playoffs.

      Brady playing like Montana but with an underinflated football is hardly cause for admiration.

      Luckily I have yet to read a comment anywhere with the crazy “he didn’t need to cheat” excuse. If he didn’t think it would help, why did he do it.

      Anything less than a 2 game suspension is too easy.

      • BillW

        And when did the “tuck rule” game happen? In 2001. Before they presumably began this deception with underinflated footballs.

        Did Tom think “wow – glad the refs had my back on that one. Can’t take chances next time. Have to make the ball easier to grip”.

        • Yup. The “tuck” rule which coincidentally ceased to exist once Al Davis passed. Talk about an NFL vendetta.
          They were still pissed Davis sued them and won. I’m no conspiracy theorists, but the NFL seemed to always screw the Raiders whenever given the chance

          • BillW

            It’s a multi billion dollar industry but in some ways operates like a mom and pop shop. Making up rules and consequences as they go along.

          • Irish Sweetness

            You don’t believe a group of men has ever conspired to get richer together by doing something naughty? It happens every day. It’s called business.

      • SC Dave

        Two game suspension is of no consequence. Two seasons is more like it

    • Doc Hamstring

      I’d bet dollars to donuts the balls were deflated for the Blizzard Blow-out.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        mmmm donuts!!!

  • Huge Bear’s Penis
    • I’m a little curious how they could sign him without any of the official staff being able to talk to him unitl the 9th? Isn’t that on par with tampering?

      Anyhow, this might mean RT Doug Free is on the trade block. I think the Boys are tight against the cap, so maybe they take someone like Sutton who is cheap and a perfect fit in 3-tech for Free.

      • BillW

        They couldn’t talk to him on campus or at his residence. So Collins came to them (at the Cowboys expense presumably.)

        A distinction without a difference. Or actually there IS a difference. The spirit of that rule is that no pro team disturbs a player getting ready for exams. So instead the player flies out of town. (Of course I’m sure he was studying on the plane.)

        • Yeah, I read that Rex took him out to dinner. I’m with you. Seems like breaking the spirit of the law, but whatevs.
          It’s a good catch for the Boys. Seems like Collins might be cleared, though nothing is certain yet. Just because he wasn’t the father means little.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Maury could of solved that in 1 hour plus commercials.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          He already withdrew. He had no finals to study for.

          • BillW

            I know. But the rules are set up that way so that (theoretically) he can study. Even though they are no longer in school. got to keep up the facade of student athlete – even though as this case shows there are so many ways around it.

            Just like when Kyle Long couldn’t attend a mini camp because his class had not finished finals (they were on a quarter system and went into June).

      • Trac

        Like a said a few threads back, a team should have drafted him in the 2nd or 3rd round. There was not enough evidence to pass up on the guy. They would have gotten a compensatory pick if he turned out to be a rotten egg.

        • Doc Hamstring

          Where do you get that a team would get a compensatory pick? Even in the new CBA, I can’t find anything that says if you draft a guy and he won’t sign, you get anything but diddly-squat. That’s why no one took a flyer on him in any round–they figured the risk was too high (for a Day 2 pick) if he turned out to be a bad apple, and the risk was too high (for a Day 3 pick) if he refused to sign.

          • Trac

            Your premise is wrong Doc. Many dissertations in Academia start of that way but alas…

            The guy said he wouldn’t sign after the 3rd round Doc so there is that. Read my post again.

        • Irish Sweetness

          We could have signed him yesterday.

  • Midfield Mariani!
    How about O’donnell? Will he actually be able to pin guys inside the 20 this year?
    Will Gould return to form or keep choking?

    • Sactowns#1

      Seriously. Our punt game was pathetic last year.

  • BillW

    Barb sure picked a good time to ban himself.

    • beninnorcal

      Nah, he could’ve done it a long time ago, that would’ve been better.

      • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

        it would have

    • Barb would’ve been MORE annoying, no doubt bashing drafting a WR in the first and C in the 3rd and all this deflate gate stuff.

      It’s like taking a creationist to a museum and showing them dinosaur bones – they just double down on their crazy.

      • he’s been commenting on my site. Thinks a WR in the 1st was dumb, a NT in the 2nd is terrible value because the position is not that important, and an undersized C in the 3rd was foolish.
        Also says the draft showed Pace is on a “compete when Rodgers retires” plan.

        • BillW

          Glad to see fame hasn’t changed him.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          he is going to get pretty bored over there if you stop responding to him JWood. LOL!

          BTW – I like the articles – not many people commenting.

      • SC Dave

        I can certainly do without all the slurping and sucking sounds near the midsections of Brady and Belichick we’d be enduring right now.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Like Bill Hicks used to say about Creationists : “Dinosaur bones? They were put there by God to test our faith…”

  • beninnorcal

    It’s it just me or does Adam Gase look like he could be related to Josh McDaniels?

  • As for the Defense, it’ll be interesting, that’s for sure.
    I was wondering why we didn’t draft one given that McDonald is 30 on a one year deal, Houston is slated as OLB, and we got a stop gap in Jenkins.
    Well, I suppose on 3-4 looks (I think about 30% of the time), they’re going.

    Ratliff-Goldman-McDonald. (Ego will spell whomever)

    On “nascar”

    Ratliff-Ego-McDonald (Supposedly Ego is down to 300; maybe Sutton comes in obvious passing downs)

    If in a “4-3” they’ll rotate Young/Allen/McPhee/Houston/Bass/Washinton…

    • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

      Houston is weighing at 300lb. He’s not a OLB

      • he says he played last year at 275-280, and Pace said he’ll be an OLB in base packages.
        I think we’ll see plenty of sub looks where Houston and/or McPhee are on the DL though.

      • That was what I thought too, but they said he’s going to be OLB.
        Maybe he’ll be an OLB in a defacto 4-3 where he’s basically a DE in a two-point stand.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Den he gone.

  • Make the call, Pace!

    CBS’ Jason La Canfora says Chip Kelly was “calling all around the NFL trying to pawn [Mychal Kendricks] off for a second-round pick.”
    Kendricks is a rising stud at inside linebacker, but is entering the final year of his contract. Chip was never going to get a second-round pick under those circumstances, especially when everyone knows how south the coach is on him. Now that the draft is behind us, the Eagles may have to settle for something like a 2016 fourth-rounder if they want to dump Kendricks. Kiko Alonso, DeMeco Ryans and third-round rookie Jordan Hicks are Chip’s preferred inside ‘backers. – Roto

    • NewBearInTown

      Interesting. If all Chip can get is a fourth rounder and Kendricks is a “rising star” Chip may be better actually letting him play out his contract. If he signs a deal elsewhere, the Eagles will get a compensatory pick that could be higher than the trade value.

      • True, but there’s always the risk Kendricks tears his ACL and the Eagles don’t get squat.
        For a 4rth, Kendricks would be a steal. That would definitely solidify the ILB.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Uni’s contract would pay for him.

    • SC Dave

      I think I’d rather we somehow ended up with his little brother. Well, younger brother anyway.

      • Doc Hamstring

        One scouting report I read about the younger brother was that he didn’t have the burst or athleticism of Mychal. If the Bears could get him, sign him to an extension, he’d be worth a 3rd round pick in 2016.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Can you even imagine the media crapstorm if Jay Cutler had been caught personalizing the inflation of footballs to his own liking…?

    • SC Dave

      Don’t think about such things, Al. It’s not healthy.

    • Could you imagine the names the ball dudes call Cutty!?

    • Irish Sweetness

      At least it would show he cared about winning!

    • BearDown100393

      Cutler is a pro. Instead of deflating his balls, he had his throwing hand surgically altered to grip a properly inflated one. Now that is BOSS.

  • Big Mike
    • Doc Hamstring

      Peter King did a piece on him in his MMQB blog. Had the fucking gall to ask the guy how many people he’d killed.

      • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

        Fuck Peter King

      • Big Mike

        No, seriously. he is usually a. very good sports journalist.

      • AlbertInTucson

        What a completely improper,rude, insensitive, ignorant, stupid question, Peter King.

        The guy should have asked King “So, just how fat are you. Pete?”

  • EnderWiggin

    Did I miss ScottW’s poll results on length of fandom? I’m not sure if I missed it in all the draft hoopla or if he has yet to let us know.

    • AlbertInTucson

      For SURE let’s beat the drum again on how OLD some of us are!

      Oh, and, you kids get off my lawn!

    • Scott W.

      I posted today on the previous thread that I am running it past Jeff before the red carpet/pulitzer premier.
      It took on a really cool – but larger than I ever imagined – life of its own.
      The more I looked, the more curious and fascinated I got, so I am not going to short shrift it.
      It’s coming.

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  • Brady doing press conference in Salem?
    Going a lil heavy on “witch hunt”, eh, Tommy?

    • AlbertInTucson

      This was a previously scheduled speaking engagement.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        he’s a witch, he knew when the report was going to be released.

        • Doc Hamstring

          BURN THE WITCH!

        • They should do the old Witch/Warlock test.

          Drown him. If he begins floating, he’s a witch! If he drowns, well, one less cheater in the world.

          Win/win.

    • BearDown100393

      Cue Donovan.

  • AlbertInTucson

    4 game vacation for Tommy is rumored.

    Right on.

    1 for doing it.

    3 for lying about it.

    The cover-up is always worse than the crime.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yep. That sounds about right. Although I wouldn’t have been shocked by a half-season; look what happened to the Saints, and NO was not even a competitive balance issue.

      Anyway, tarnishes NE’s recent title.

      • AlbertInTucson

        For New England, it just conjures up

        “What ELSE have gotten way with?”

        • BerwynBomber

          Agreed.

          I have to be honest — I respect the hell out of Brady and Manning but I have been tired of each for about five or six years now. Need some new blood in the AFC.

          SEA should have fed the Beast.

        • Doc Hamstring

          My money is that NE takes a big step back this year. Because they know they’ll be under increased scrutiny, so they’ll stop doing all the borderline and over-the-line things they’ve probably been getting away with for years now, which means they’ll lose the games that the little cheats helped ’em win.

          • their defense is due to take a step back anyway. Lost Wilfork, Revis, and Browner.

            But they’re still gonna be a really good team, IMO.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I don’t see it like they won the game. Seattle threw it away.Dumb call. Interception. Game over.

        • this all came to a head in the AFCCG, so the balls were well checked and properly inflated for the Super Bowl.

          • BerwynBomber

            But they could have been doing it all year at Foxboro. We will never how much it contributed to their winning and how much it helped them get to the SB. That is why this tarnishes their title.

          • I get that, but the balls were good in the SB, so you can’t mention that specific game out of this.

            Would they have gotten to the SB without this trick? Who knows. It certainly wouldn’t have changed the Colts game, but maybe Baltimore the week before that.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Oh, deflategate is a non-story for me. It’s like corners and receivers putting stickum on their hands back in the day.

        • Sactowns#1

          The weird thing is of the two teams it seems the loser is the more likely of the two to return to the SB.

      • NO’s was so bad because it was a safety issue and they had the concussion lawsuit rolling in. Had to come down hard on safety.

        Look at what ATL and CLE got for their competitive balance issues. That’s the precedent here, IMO.

        • Yeah, but ATL and CLE both fessed up to it really quick I think.
          Pats have obstructed the process. Not only have they denied it, but Brady blatantly lied and didn’t make his cell records available. And on top of that, Kraft wanted an apology!

          IF this were any other team, the hammer would swing down hard.

          • BerwynBomber

            Exactly.

            The punishment will be more about the non-cooperation than anything else.

        • BillW

          No. Those were team employees not players. Especially the noise issue. And as butch says they cooperated.

  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/05/jerry-jones-cowboys-lael-collins

    Most of you here probably think that Pace should have done it…

    • NewBearInTown

      There’s not a team in the league that would have said no given the opportunity to sign him to that deal. But Collins made a great choice. He’s right, that could become the best offensive line in league history.

    • Naturally since it looks like he won’t be charged. I’m a bit surprised because I would think he wanted to play OT, but I’m sure Jerrah offered him some sort of future’s deals.

      “Son, I have billions, and Texas taxes ain’t no thing. Yeeeehaaaa!”

      (insert Yosemite Sam shooting in the air)

      • Trac

        Jerra the mad scientist may very well have finally built a winner.

    • Big Mike

      He absolutely should have. The guy was innocent, not charged, the baby wasn’t his, he is no longer wanted for questioning. I can’t stand Jerry Jones, but Collins didn’t do anything wrong. More than Pace grabbing this guy, he deserved a shot in the League. Just wish it hadn’t been Jones and the Cowboys.

      • BillW

        The report I saw said 25 teams contacted his agent. I hope the Bears were one. Jones gave him a completely guaranteed contract and it can be renegotiated in 2 years. Somehow Collins felt the Cowboys were the best fit. Probably because the line is set already and there is less pressure. Guy probably could use less pressure right now

    • BearDown100393

      Jerry Jones probably saved the NFL from facing a lawsuit.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Brady (at his speaking engagement tonight) declined to discuss his thoughts about the 243-page report that said that he was likely at least aware two team employees were breaking rules by deflating footballs for him.

    “I don’t really have any reaction. It has only been 30 hours, I’ve not had much time to digest it,” Brady said. “When I do I will be sure to let you know how I feel about it. And everybody else.”

    (After my handlers and I had had ample time to come up with a plausible denial).

    • Exactly. The Pats haven’t had enough time to properly execute damage control and coach Tommy up much like a lawyer coaches up a criminal.

      It was obvious Tommy was very awkward with that half-assed laugh and contrived charm. It wasn’t as bad as the last one the deflate gate, but it reminded me of the Dwight Howard interview.

      • Waffle

        so weird. That weird smile. Imagine what was going on behind those eyes and creepy fucking smile.

        • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

          It’s like hanging out with Trac.

          • Trac

            It would be good for you. Really.

        • This is where Shady chimes in with the Jaw’s monologue…”Those eyes…

    • BearDown100393

      Obama should send Brady an air pump.

    • Waffle

      that Brady event was laughable. That awkward smile, the retarded answers, the cheering crowds….

  • BillW

    Great editorial in the Trib today – key point is so many people (rightfully) believed JRW deserved to be punished. So why not Brady and the Pats?

    While I absolutely HATE when race is made an issue, I’m not blind or ignorant either. If Brady gets a slap on the wrist, you have to know that card will be played often. I’m thinking 4 games minimum. Integrity of the game (no matter how minor it actually may be, feeling you are above the rules must be dealt with.) And then having the arrogance to think you don’t really need to give the league what they ask for.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-brady-patriots-cheating-edit-0508-20150507-story.html#navtype=outfit

    • BearDown100393

      Brady and the Pats or Bennie and the Jets?

      • BillW

        The headline on te website (not the article, but on the website main page) called him Tom Shady. I know those headlines are written by interns or some low level employees because they often seem intentionally misleading. But that one was clever.

        Brady said he didn’t alter the footballs. Technically true. Must have gotten advice from Slick Willie on how to tell the truth while lying.

        • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

          You should read the law firm representing him’s commentary on the text messages they sent. It is a master class in Weasel.

          They tried to say the text that said “Tom’s next ball is going to be blown up like a watermelon” meant (and I’m not kidding here) – that “Tom will have a great game the next game he plays in.”

          • haha. Yeah. (rolls eyes).
            What I don’t understand, wouldn’t Brady’s replies/texts be on those dude’s cell?

  • BillW

    Hey Scott –
    Give us some warning when your project is coming out. I want to pull up in my recliner with a cold one or three while I read it.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Why I listen to Dan Patrick. He had Mike Florio on this morning. Florio absolutely SHREDDED Brady ‘s incompetent mouthpiece, Don Yee’s, “play fast and loose with facts” defense of the QB.

    On the OTHER hand…

    Why I find Patrick so annoying: He used Bill Simmons’s departure from ESPN to throw himself another “ESPN didn’t want me anymore” pity party.

    • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

      Patrick has more self pity on the radio waves of anybody since Steve Dahl.

      • Trac

        Yes, I’m surprised he hasn’t made the move to MSNBC yet.

        Too much?

        • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

          Oooooooh. Burn.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Too late to go there. Keith Olbermouth was already there and left the place on life support before moving on to kill Current TV

  • BerwynBomber

    The Brady thing is a PR nightmare. They have doubled, tripled, quadrupled down on his initial press conference denial/lie.

    Best bet would be for them to put a muzzle on his agent and father and have Brady issue an apology for cheating. His reputation will still take a hit (obviously) but people would move past it and at least accept that he finally did the right thing.

    I wonder if it is because there is such a NE/NFL cocoon of praise/comfort that they can’t see the need to do that.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Having “Cheater” attached to Brady’s brand is not a good prospect.

      • BerwynBomber

        Agreed. But I don’t know if it is helped by having “Liar” attached to it either. At least he could begin to rectify the latter.

  • MorganW

    Wow, Adam Gase as a HC after a few years being the OC behind Manning and one year of work in Chicago with unknown results? Aren’t we getting a little ahead of ourselves? First of all, Fox wouldn’t have brought Gase over if he knew it was a one season deal on a team that has already seen it’s fair share of coaching turnover in the last 5 years. Competence and stability is the cure for what ails the Bears in the coaching departments. Secondly, Gase has no sure-fire established record of high accomplishment in the league. He was the OC in Denver with Manning as his QB. Most teams will think that Manning had more to do with the Denver success than Gase. Gase will be a HC but it will only happen after he does with Chicago’s offense what it should have achieved under Trestman. However, this would be the perfect trial for Gase to prove that he is the guru that he is rumored to be. He will have to deal with a quarterback, that while talented, has decision-making issues at times and will have to deal with the aftermath of that quarterback leaving the team and the new quarterback coming in. Worthy tests indeed for a OC that is looking for promotion. Keep in mind Gase’s youth. He’s very young still. Gase has no less than 3-5 years of measurable success with the Bears before he is attending HC interviews. Also, the Bears defense will suck. The free-agents that Emory brought in last year are playing out of position, mostly and Allen and Houston are no spring chickens. And these are the guys that will be supplying the pass rush from the other side of McPhee? So, with only a marginally improved pass rush, the Bears secondary will be tested and it hasn’t improved enough to take the pressure that was put on it last year with absolutely no pass rush. Though both areas have improved, on paper anyway, they still have a long way to go before this is a nasty defense again. That being said, the marginal improvements on paper coupled with the ENORMOUS improvement in coaching will net the Bears a climb up the leagues defensive rankings charts. I mean, the Bears actually have a coaching staff that acknowledges that the team not only has a defense but is supposed to coach it as well. Not just leave an old system in place and tell the players to go do whatever they are supposed to do at their position. I predict that the Bears defense will rank in the low 20s in league rankings. .They are still talent poor, have depth issues, and/or have age issues at every position on the defensive side of the ball. They’ll still suck but they’ll at least look like they care and try a lot harder this season. They just won’t suck as bad as last year.

    • BearDown100393

      Adam Gase is a sure fire HOFer. You can book that trip to Canton right now.

    • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

      Morgan –

      I’d like to introduce you to a friend of mine. His name is Carriage Return. We call him CR for short.

      He’s a really awesome. You find him hanging out on the right side of your keyboard. Check him out, dude.

      • BearDown100393

        Carriage return?
        You must work in the White Sox front office.

        • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

          I work for Project Blue Book. It’s a secret program to make hover skateboards like Marty McFly had out of the Roswell alien anti-grav tech.

          It’s a fun job. Working a deal with Hasbro now.

          • BearDown100393

            Aliens? Oh so you must know Trestman.

      • BerwynBomber

        In fairness to Morgan, it took me awhile to figure out how to get paragraph spaces in my posts on here (I can only enter them by posting and then editing).

        Don’t know what the issue is, though I suspect it is related to the browser I use (IE). But same thing may have occurred for him.

        • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

          In that case perhaps we should introduce to him to a real browser like Chrome.

        • BillW

          The Enter (excuse me – Carriage Return) key should work fine in either. Perhaps in IE you need to hit it twice?

          But Chrome is my choice – though at work we are forced us to use IE as the default (long winded reason why – but it comes down to poor design of our “work from home” connection.

          • BerwynBomber

            Nope. Doesn’t work for me. I have been here over two years now and it never has. Tried to hit twice, tried soft return, etc.

            Only thing that works is editing my comment. Then it allows me add paragraphs spaces. (As I will have done on this post.)

            Yeah, I’m sure IE sucks. But you know how it is: you get tied to something and are too lazy to change. Hell I still yahoo for my personal email.

          • Big Mike

            Do you have an AOL Dial up account?

            http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/08/technology/aol-dial-up/

          • Firefox. Gmail.
            Using IE is like using myspace or floppy disk.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I have to know, Ber. Why IE?

      • BillW

        Carriage return? I thought I sounded old.

        (Time for lunch. I wonder what we have in the ice box?)

        • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

          Crystal Pepsi and Ruffles.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I LOVED 50/50 when I was a kid. Also JAYS potato chips.

          • GP Mexican UFO Specialist
          • AlbertInTucson

            JAY’S was all we ever bought. I had a wonderful aunt and cousins who would always bring some to Tucson when they came to visit. LOVED JAY’S BBQ. chips.

          • Doc Hamstring

            People always give me weird looks when I talk about Jays. They say, “Don’t you mean LAYS?”

            I say no, Jays. It’s a Chicago thing.

    • Wow, Adam Gase as a HC after a few years being the OC behind Manning and one year of work in Chicago with unknown results? Aren’t we getting a little ahead of ourselves?

      First of all, Fox wouldn’t have brought Gase over if he knew it was a one season deal on a team that has already seen it’s fair share of coaching turnover in the last 5 years.
      Competence and stability is the cure for what ails the Bears in the coaching departments.

      Secondly, Gase has no sure-fire established record of high accomplishment in the league. He was the OC in Denver with Manning as his QB. Most teams will think that Manning had more to
      do with the Denver success than Gase. Gase will be a HC but it will only happen after he does with Chicago’s offense what it should have achieved under Trestman.

      However, this would be the perfect trial for Gase to prove that he is the guru that he is rumored to be. He will have to deal with a quarterback, that while talented, has decision-making issues at times and will have to deal with the aftermathof that quarterback leaving the team and the new quarterback coming in. Worthy tests indeed for a OC that is looking for promotion.

      Keep in mind Gase’s youth. He’s very young still. Gase has no less than 3-5 years of measurable success with the Bears before he is attending HC interviews. Also, the Bears defense will suck. The free-agents that Emory brought in last year are playing out of position, mostly and Allen
      and Houston are no spring chickens. And these are the guys that will be supplying the pass rush from the other side of McPhee?

      So, with only a marginally improved pass rush, the Bears secondary will be tested and
      it hasn’t improved enough to take the pressure that was put on it last year with absolutely no pass rush. Though both areas have improved, on paper anyway, they still have a long way to go before this is a nasty defense again.

      That being said, the marginal improvements on paper coupled with the ENORMOUS improvement in coaching will net the Bears a climb up the leagues defensive rankings charts. I mean, the Bears
      actually have a coaching staff that acknowledges that the team not only has a defense but is supposed to coach it as well. Not just leave an old system in place and tell the players to go do whatever they are supposed to do at their position. I predict that the Bears defense will
      rank in the low 20s in league rankings. .

      They are still talent poor, have depth issues, and/or have age issues at every position on the
      defensive side of the ball. They’ll still suck but they’ll at least look like they care and try a lot harder this season. They just won’t suck as bad as last year.

      [Firefox robo-edit]

  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

    The intellectual and sociological underpinnings of American’s fascination with football draws it’s roots from “Muscular Christianity”

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/may/08/muscular-christianity-and-american-sports-undying-love-of-violence

  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

    Has Barb self-exiled since his beloved Tommy B. has been exposed as fraud?

    • AlbertInTucson

      His disappeared before the crap hit the fan. Possibly saw it coming.

      • Trac

        If a person struggles with pride, this ain’t the place to come hang out. Hahaha

      • BillW

        He said if the Bears draft a wide receiver in round 1 he’d quit the board. so the man is true to his word.

        He wanted a mythical pass rusher. Mythical in that he wouldn’t name one beyond the ones slated to go ahead of the Bears pick (and in fact did).

        In other words I guess he thought they should reach for less value at that pick.

        You know – like that beast Emery.

        • Yeah, he actually didn’t mind if POX would reach for an ILB at #7.
          The first ILB didn’t go till #31. The Saints traded back into the 1st for Stephone Anthony, an athletic project.

          They guy I wanted in the top of the 2nd, Mickenny, didn’t go till pick #43 (I will be comparing Goldman to him from now on).

          So yeah, good thing Barb isn’t a GM.

          Beasley was a viable option at #7, but IMO, I feel he might merely be a subpackage pass rusher ala Bruce Irvin. But never know. He could turn out to be the next Von Miller.

  • BearDown100393

    “Football is in the midst of a massive injury crisis.” – No it is not. 1st sentence.

    • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

      Be serious.

      • BearDown100393

        Fairly certain I am being serious. Football has always had its risks. The current issue has more to do with the attention directed towards those risks and the accompanying management and treatment.

        • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

          Football’s risks to the brain with CTE, and the attendant rash of high profile suicides like Duerson and Seau aren’t just “people are paying attention now”.

          That’s a nice cop-out to tell yourself, make yourself feel better. But it’s a lie.

          The hard shell helmets mandated in 1968 have had this effect, just recently documented (despite the NFL’s best effort to bury it) on the brain.

          This is not broken bones, or the deaths in the 1940s and 50s until anti spearing rules came down. This is a whole different thing and now you have guys like Borland walking away, and you say there is no crisis?

          • BearDown100393

            Well no, I have not copped out to any realities of the serious of football brain trauma. It always existed. Sure, heads were (and some remain) in the sand on the issue but not my own. I applaud Borland’s decision. The NFL has kicked this can down the road for quite sometime. And now it is running out of road. So be it. Football won’t die at the NFL level immediately. The real impact will be felt at child developmental levels and high school. The reality is quite simple. Fewer and fewer insurers will cover football related injuries at those levels. No insurer means no amateur games. And that will trend upward to college and eventually professional. Waiver of liability is pretty much useless when challenged by a lawsuit. But none of this is really new. The NFL and its opposing plaintiffs can poke and prod on CTE test samples all they want. Inherent knowledge and common sense already informs that this activity is physically damage and harmful. So who wants their kids to play now?

          • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

            None do.

            You’re making my point for me. Mothers and fathers are pulling kids out of football. In my suburbs, the soccer camps have taken off and the junior football programs are dead. High School football is winding down in Illinois, or at least it will in about 5 more years.

            This is a fundamental crisis to the league that they can’t ignore, no matter how many essays the Harbaugh boys pen about how football puts hair on your chest.

          • willbest

            Are there really more suicides than in the general population? Dirty little secret is the middle aged male suicide rates are the highest of all sex/age groups.
            And nobody is looking to clean up Hollywood which is rampant in the suicide (both intentional and accidental) department of which Robin Williams is only the most recent in a long line.

          • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

            Suicides from depression vs. suicides induced by brain trauma.

            the former happens if you shit Hollywood down. The latter don’t happen if there is no football.

          • willbest

            I would think, that going from glorious warrior on the field of battle to middle aged, has been with no real skills, the resulting feeling of uselessness, the strain in the change to your schedule vis-a-via family/friends would be highly depressing. So you are going to have to do better than to just claim getting popped in the head a couple times. After all, divorced father estranged from his children leads the list in suicide risk and nobody is smacking that group in the head (at least not physically).

          • Waffle

            no one wants to talk about that.

          • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

            Save for the fact that there is medical evidence showing that Tau in the brain causes those exact feelings.

            Minus that whole cause and effect thing.

    • AlbertInTucson

      But baseball sure is. Can you say “Tommy John Surgery” boys and girls?

  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

    It’s been unused the last two seasons.

    – Jeff, on Briggs #55 getting assigned to Grasu.

    • BearDown100393

      The standard issue XL #55 has been unused for 2 seasons. The XXXL #55 saw limited service.

      • GP Mexican UFO Specialist
    • willbest

      That is a little harsh he had a solid 7-8 games in ’13. But yeah its been a good year and a half at this point.

      • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

        If anything, you hold the jersey back for one year to honor Doug Buffone.

        • NewBearInTown

          You know what. If Grasu is really the goods, I’ve got no problem with the Bears letting him carry on the legacy. But I do agree that Buffone is as good a reason as any to hold the number back for a year.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I second that emotion.

          • BillW

            Really. Minus 10 points to Fox or who ever for not thinking of that. There were those who felt they should wear a patch honoring him. While given the Bear’s long history, there are sadly great former players dying every year it seems, he was more than that. The voice of the fans.

            Oh wait – that’s right. Maybe McCaskey is being small about this. I sure hope not.

  • Sactowns#1

    So is Briggs just going to silently slink away into the night? Or is he going to make some sort of formal announcement? I’m confused.

    • Has he officially retired?

      • NewBearInTown

        Checked the other day. He’s listed as a free agent.
        I suspect he will announce retirement some time during the preseason unless another team picks him up. He probably prefers not being on a roster right now anyway – doesn’t have to go to camp.
        Do I think a team will pick him up? Depends if anyone’s current crop of 4-3 OLBs don’t work out.

  • BillW

    Testing
    Testing
    One – two – carriage return in IE
    seems to work fine. Weird how it doesn’t for some.

    • BillW

      Though it only gave one space.
      if I do three…

      • BillW

        It still only goes one line down. You’re right – no way to do a paragraph unless

        You add a space to the blank line?

  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

    Ok Al and Bill –

    Who will have the highest score? Had you been there?

    I scored an 11. I may win.

    http://www.craigslostchicago.com/lost-eateries.php

    • Doc Hamstring

      Aww, hell. Arthur Treacher’s? My older brother worked there. Back when I hated fish. Now I’d kill for some of their fish & chips.

      • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

        Lockwood Castle is still there.

        That Chicken Unlimited store looks like it’s in the 90s based on the reflections in the glass, but I lived down the street from one on the south side so I remember that smell.

        Buffalo Ice Cream I remember as well as Cal’s roast beef. Homestead in Melrose was my parents favorite.

        • Waffle

          I grew up in that neighborhood. Lockwood Castle had the best Chocolate Malts.
          Alas, it is now a Starbucks and a Coldwell Banker.

          • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

            Lockwood Castle is gone?? Damn.

          • Waffle

            couldn’t believe it when it happened. They remodeled it and we thought it was going to make it and then everyone in the world became a realtor in 2002-2007 and it turned into a damned real estate office and a coffee house.

          • Waffle

            that list really brought back memories. I actually knew a handful. I kind of made me sad to think of the ones that I used to go to that don’t exist anymore.

    • BillW

      52. Conservativly. I tried to pick those I had a secure memory of. I remember many more than that but probably just from seeing them. Not from eating there

      • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

        Wow. That’s impressive.

    • AlbertInTucson

      18. There was an ARTHUR TREACHER’S walking distance from our house in Oak Park. It was at Madison and Harlem. Right across from PARKY’S, our favorite local hot dog joint which was on the West side of Harlem at Madison in Forest Park. PARKY’S is still going!

      I Lived at 43rd place and Halsted before 1959 so i knew DAVID’S and the Diner on Halsted well. The diner, being anold dining car FASCINATED meas a kid. As I recall they had that classic painting of Custer’s Last Stand hanging in their window.

      The Was a Cock Robin on Harlem North of Lake St. in River Forest. I remember the airplane diner but we never ate there.

  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

    Al vs. Bill vs. GP in Nostalgia Wars, Part Duex:

    Did you play with these things?

    http://craigslosttoys.com/

    I scored a 54. I may win this too.

    • Doc Hamstring

      57. I may have an unfair advantage. I have two brothers who are 7 and 10 years older than me, respectively, and so I got a lot of vintage hand-me-down toys. Most of them were in crappy shape, but there you go.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I had two brothers and lots of cousins that upped MY total. But I had a LOT of war games that were’nt on the list. Very big into Avalon-Hill in my teens.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      84. holy crap i forgot about so many of those games, and i did not realize they were so old. and i did not think i was that old. i must have grown up in a weird twilight zone time period of sorts, because i am only 36.

      • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

        84? Holy crap, you had all of it!

        Barrel of Monkeys. What an underrated toy that was.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          I had a big extended family. A lot of the games were at one of my grandparents or cousins houses which i spent a lot of time at since we all lived within about 5 miles from each other. if it is just my family, between me and my brothers probably had close to 50.

    • BillW

      What do you mean “scored a 54?” I don’t see a quiz of any sort on that link – just pictures (and I remember most of them but didn’t count)

      • BillW

        And now the site is blocked on my work computer where it wasn’t just a couple minutes ago.. Wow – I may be getting fired today.

      • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

        Oh Bill, just count the places you been or toys you had.

    • BillW

      If I count those that were in my house or good friends then I’m at 82. I’m actually too old for some of them.

      Just counting stuff I owned it’s more like 60

    • Jack Lacan

      If one played with some of those toys – one must have listened to The Cinnamon Bear on the radio.
      The rubber string on those Hi-Fli wooden paddles always broke after twenty hits. The paddle then became (becomes) a weapon to use on younger siblings.

      My old man used the paddle for some ass whacks for making trouble for mom.

      • AlbertInTucson

        One of the main reasons I kept SIRIUS after the trial subscription with the new car in 2013 was the old Time Radio channel. In the late 60s, WLS-FM still ran THE SHADOW at 5 in the afternoon. I once had a bunch of them on reel-to-reel tape.

        • Trac

          I paid $500 for a lifetime subscription back in the day.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I counted 58 that I played with or owned.

      Guess what? This is prbably sad but I STILL have copies of
      STRATEGO
      YAHTZE
      SORRY
      PROBE
      MILLE BORNES
      LIFE
      CLUE
      BOGGLE
      BASK-KET
      and
      AGGRAVATION

      in the house AND several others not mentoned including:

      FORMULA ONE.
      CONFLICT
      DOGFIGHT
      BATTLE CRY
      BROADSIDE
      HIT THE BEACH
      SKIRMISH
      WIN, PLACE & SHOW
      BISMARCK
      MIDWAY
      GETTYSBURG
      FOTO-ELECTRIC FOOTBALL.
      STRAT-O-MATIC FOOTBALL
      STRAT-O-MATIC BASEBALL
      APBA BASEBALL.

      Better still, i get to play some when the Daughter & Son-In-Law visit. They love game night’s too.

      I also play RISK on the computer several times a week.

      Grow up?

      ME?!

      I absolutely, positively REFUSE!

      • Jack Lacan

        How about ALL STAR BASEBALL with the player disks with their hitting records / percentages of their performance at bat. It had a spinner and one kept score in any way one chose. Babe Ruth’s home run number on his disk was larger than any other player. Cadaco-Ellis produced disks for many, many players.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Had that one to. That one steered me towards the Strat-O and APBA replay games.

          Cadaco-Ellis made that one along with Foto-Electric Football, Foto-Electric Baseball, All-American Football and Bas-Ket, all of which I played & owned at one time AND they were headquartered in Chicago.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Jahns Tweeted this out:

    “DT Eddie Goldman and OT Tayo Fabuluje both left #Bears practice early. But John Fox would not comment on their situations.”

    Hopefully it’s minor, but that’s not good on the 1st day of rookie mini-camp.

  • BearDown100393

    Brandon Marshall shares his thoughts on “almost” becoming a Patriot, Jay Cutler and Jay Cutler’s uh…. wife. http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/12846539/new-york-jets-wr-brandon-marshall-says-chicago-bears-explored-trading-new-england-patriots

  • Gase on Cutty. They should have a Before/After pic of the OCs who have worked with Cutty. It would probably mirror the before/after pics of pics of girls on meth.

    http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/videos/Gase-Cutler-ready-for-fresh-start/666f62d7-84e4-43b2-b495-c26f6b6348b0

  • Trac
    • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

      Jesus, the Jaguars are cursed. The curse of Ron Jeremy.

      • Trac

        No kidding, hopefully Shaka Kahn paid the insurance premium.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    ouch, Jags lost 1st round pick Fowler for the season already.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/08/dante-fowler-out-for-season-with-torn-acl/

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      i should really read some comments closer – Trac already reported

    • Crazy though. I think this was his first day too. Damn. Some teams are just snake-bitten.
      I wanted Fowler, but ACLs are ACLs. Even a cyborg like AP can tear them.

    • willbest

      At least he didn’t do it celebrating his first sack of the season 8 weeks in to a backup QB down 35 points in the 4th.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Ouch. That’s gotta be more than a little discouraging.

    • NewBearInTown

      Stuff like this is why a lot of teams think twice before a blockbuster trade up in the draft.
      Imagine if we traded, what, our second or third round pick to move up for Fowler? It’d be like two high draft picks tearing their ACL on the same day.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        you cant project someone getting injured, and you can’t allow the fear of injury tie your hands if you believe in a player enough to trade up for him. Injuries are going to happen, some players are lucky others are not. As long as the player teams are trading up for does not have a history of major injuries, teams don’t take future possible injuries risks into account.

        • NewBearInTown

          You’re right that injuries are unpredictable, but the draft in general is unpredictable. Its a percentages game. If you sell out for one guy, you better hope that he stays healthy or your season is lost. If you draft multiple quality guys, maybe no one player is as explosive, but your net production will be better collectively and your numbers won’t swing so dramatically when the inevitable freak accidents happen.
          The way I see it, its like Poker. You have some hands that, statistically, are winning hands, but the cost of playing the hand doesn’t justify the risks. To get really math-heavy. If you have one player who you figure is a 90% guy. That means there is a 90% chance of success and a 10% chance of failure. If you have two players that are both 80% guys, you have a 4% chance that they both stink, a 64% chance that they’re both good, and a 32% chance that one is good and the other is not. When you look at those numbers, you see that 10% vs. 4% means taking the two slightly lower rated players gives a better likelihood of success.

  • Trac

    I wonder if the rumors about the Cowboys trying to swing a deal for AP are true. What a nightmare their offense would be, perish the thought.

    • They are claiming they basically got three 1st rounders this year, so next year’s is no biggie (esp w Romo being 35 and his back).
      Wouldn’t shock me.
      Plus, McKinnon on the Vikes proved adequate. The Vikes are building, the Boys are trying to win now.
      It might make sense for both of them.
      If the Vikes don’t like McKinnon, they can use that 1st on a HB next year, plus still have another 1st.

      • Doc Hamstring

        Watch Romo go out in preseason with a career-ending back injury. Karma.

  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

    Clearly Rose’s stand here to claim his legacy. Some sweet drives.

    I would seriously rather see John Paxson put an old brown wig on and get #5 back on than see another minute go to Kirk Hinrich.

  • Viva

    DA BULLSCE!!!

    • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

      30/7/7

      • Viva

        Great things happen when he’s driving.

  • EnderWiggin

    GP! I love the new handle.
    I was wondering… Is the high percentage of UFO sightings in Mexico City due to them having the largest population in the world? Or does all of the (UFO)activity have something to do with the high percentage of roman catholics in that area? Or, does it have to do with the perfect latitude/longitude?
    I guess it could be covertly because the “aliens” want the NFL in Mexico City instead of London – it only makes sense (More NFL fans, more people, etc.)

    • Joecashflow

      Largely due to the amount to tequila there.

    • Irish Sweetness

      There’s no clampdown or control on the UFO phenomenon in Mexico. The media contains much more of it there, and one of their most popular shows is a UFO video clip show. Check out some of the military footage released, pilots tracking balls of light. Footage released to the public by Senor Maussan.

      Short clip

      Full version

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    I really liking Kevin White’s attitude and perspective

    From the Sun Times:
    “[It’s] just try to get on the same page, catch every ball, do my job,” White said of his upcoming work with Cutler. “If he’s in trouble, he can come to me. If he has trust in me, it’s a lot better for me. I get more chances. If a quarterback doesn’t trust you, he isn’t going to go to you very often.”

    • BearDown100393

      Sounds confident. And appreciate the lack of arrogance or false bravado too often typical of elite wide receivers. White’s attitude seems all team oriented and that is all good.

  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

    Mariotti is one of the biggest pricks in the history of the universe. But he is actually a good writer.

    He tears Simmons a new one, calls him a hack and a wannabe.

    Yet Jeff, you are a kind of Simmons character. A bloggo guy looking to step up into the mainstream, and here you are allowing Mariotti to call Simmons work a giant jack-off fest and impugn bloggers and the internet as not real journalism. Clearly Grantland is not something Jay Mariotti could have ever pulled off and has changed the face of sports journalism.

    The rest of Jay’s piece is just name calling. Why you like it makes no sense. It’s not even well written.

    • BearDown100393

      Mariotti is an asshole who beats women.

    • Does Jeff want to be mainstream? Would he accept a job a ESPN? That’s a good question.
      And not to be a dick, but I don’t see him going mainstream. He’s created a wonderful sub-cult here, we even let him type stuff like “irriegardless”, but he would be torched if he ever went national.
      I think Data would have a better chance at going national, though I think his writing would benefit with a smidgen more humor.

      Like so!

      http://profootballnetworks.com/2013/09/04/5-coaches-on-the-proverbial-chopping-block/

      Then again, I’m like the Seth McFarland of Bears’ “writers”.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Mariotti’s going to be INSANELY jealous of anyone whose work you don’t need a search party to find these days.

  • EnderWiggin

    Ana is bring some inches to Myrtle Beach. Nothing serious yet though. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT1+shtml/091755.shtml

  • I like…Gold…man.
    Dude lukes YOKED. That is not a chubby NT. Shae looks like Bruce Banner, and Goldman looks like the Incredible Hulk.

    If red Hulk is nicknamed Rulk, would a black one be coined, “Bulk”? hmmm

    http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/videos/Goldman-on-joining-the-Bears/ac8579d9-8518-4f22-b320-20f332e20904

    • Trac

      Yup, dude is swoled. Please don’t remind me of chicken dinner, it’s too painful to think about.

      • Big Mike

        Man, if Fangio can turn CD into an ILB what a bonus.

        • Trac

          I would love nothing better.

        • I think you and I always held out hope of him as an ILB, but Shea’s on the precipice of being a special teamer.
          Maybe with real coaching, more weight room dedication, and playing his natural position…never know.

          Like I said before. Urlacher sucked at OLB, and all he had to do was move 3 feet over.

          • Big Mike

            An inside linebacker in a 3-4 is a great fit for him physically. Now it’s all about the eyes and reaction time. His combine 40 time was 4.63. What I don’t get and never will, not in a hundred years, is how they took him with a number 1 pick. He did 19 reps at 225. Vertical jump and broad jump numbers were awful. (Kevin White did 23), plus he was small and soft. His combine scores showed little explosion

            At ILB and weighing in the 250s with his speed and height is ideal. He’s gotten functionally stronger since he’s been in the NFL. He seemed to have good play making skills in college. So maybe this is his position. Otherwise, he’s done after he plays special teams this year.

  • I got footage of Goodell interviewing Brady.

  • Fangio on D.
    Reporter: “What building blocks do you see?”
    Fangio: “Fuller…uhmmmm…[then he rattled off some courtesy names].

    I also like what he said about the D priorities which are a sly indictment of Bubba Gump.
    If I can parahprase, this is how Fangio priotizes D.

    First, know you’re assignment.
    Execute proper technique.
    Show effort.

    It may not be a “hierarchy’ and more like a trinity, but that’s the order he named them.

    assignment, technique, effort.

    http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/videos/Fangio_on_Bears_defense/85ee3e57-3833-4da1-86e5-feddc8dfa1c4

    • NewBearInTown

      I liked the interview, but it also showed me that Fangio needs to work on his media chops if he wants to be a head coach.
      Interesting that Shea was mentioned with Christian Jones as other quality players. Not sure if that means he likes Shea or that he doesn’t like Jones.
      I also liked what he said about the defense identity. Gotta play smart or the effort is wasted. But yeah, in this league you need it all to be successful.

      • That’s the first thing that I thought too, NB. “Maybe this is why he got passed up as HC in SF”. But not all coaches are PR machines.
        Most notably, Billichick, but there’s been more than a few others that totally rubbed the media wrong way, or bored them to death.

        Lovie did a bit of both

        • NewBearInTown

          Quite the opposite Butch. BB has a very clear media strategy. Fangio looked at a loss for words a couple of times. He’s got all the right impulses – he’s smart, he knows what he should say, he knows what he shouldn’t say. But he hasn’t put it together into a polished presentation yet. Rex Ryan is verbose, BB is silent, Lovie quotes sound bites for hours. They all approach it differently, but they all have a polished presentation ready for the press.
          I suspect Fangio will take Fox’s folksy, tough guy approach. I imagine this is something he hopes to work on this year in making a pitch to be a head coach (which is why the DC is doing a press conference in the first place).

      • SC Dave

        The most striking comment to me was that he took ownership of making the guys he inherited better players. The staff has not been able really teach people on D since Marinelli left IMO.

  • Ahhh…going back through memory lane (insert flashback montage…) for those who thought I didn’t give Tresty or Cutty a chance…

    http://profootballnetworks.com/2013/09/09/cutler-better-than-peyton-manning/

    • Trac

      Well done butch.

      • “HOWEVER, you know what the Bears’ record while trailing from behind at the half under nine seasons of Lovie was? Out of 61 games, take a wild guess.

        If you guessed 14-47, you won a bar bet. And I am willing to furtherwager that of those 14 come from behind victories, maybe like 7 were against playoff teams (if that). So when the Bengals opened up an 11 point lead into the 3rd, that live chatter was simply reliving the
        trauma of the Lovie regime. He deserves our pity more than our ire. We were all conditioned to expect a loss when trailing from behind, especially against elite teams (Seahawks last year is a classic example). As with all trauma, it’s a reaction which can be unconditioned, with a little work and patience.

        I for one am looking forward to Trestman and his Bears to rewire me.”

        And here we are again, once more into the breach, hoping yet another coaching staff can be “ballsy” and competitive.

        But much like Alex in “Clockwork Orange”, us Bears fans must be re-wired multiple times.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Mariotti is one of the biggest pricks in the history of the universe. But he is actually a good writer. ”

    Unfortunately, he is SUCH a prick that no CARES if he can write.

    • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

      And he can’t write.

      • BearDown100393

        Mariotti’s case against Simmons is entirely personal. Roger Ebert was 100% correct about The Rat.

        • AlbertInTucson
        • AlbertInTucson

          Well, Roger COULD write.

          • BearDown100393

            Yes he could. He also loved his job with a passion and proactively helped the Chicago community. He never abandoned his paper even during its very tough financial times. Roger Ebert was an extraordinary man.

          • AlbertInTucson

            My only gripe with him and Gene Siskel on AT THE MOVIES was the “Thumbs Up” or “Thumbs Down” system of rating the films. Not everything is just either CITIZEN KANE or ISHTAR.

          • BearDown100393

            True. His reviews in print were generally solid. And best of all was his willingness to admit when he was wrong and recant a bad one.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Court documents show actress (Lindsay Lohan) tried to log communiuty service hours from home.”

    http://www.tmz.com/2015/05/08/lindsay-lohan-home-community-service-work/

    I actually don’t think that’s stretching a point in this case.

    I think Ms. Lohan at home and off the streets IS a community service.

    On the other hand, describing her as an “actress” well, that IS stretching a point!.

    • Trac

      Another victim of the casting couch? You can almost bet that most child actors were at one time sexually victimized by the woody allens of hollywood. It’s a sad but well kept secret in hollyweird.

      • AlbertInTucson

        HER problem is a totally whacked set of parents. Her MOM was her #1 party pal.

        • Trac

          That too.

    • BearDown100393

      Disney should be barred from hiring child actors/actresses.

  • Waffle

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/09/broncos-third-round-pick-jeff-heuerman-suffers-torn-acl/

    Here’s to hoping the Bears can win the injury battle this year and have a decent shot at success.

    Happy Mothers Day Motherfuckers. To all the mom’s that put up with our idiot dads and our idiot selves.

    • Trac

      Ralph Kramden style? Hahaha

  • Trac

    According to PF Focus, Goldman was a top 10 draft pick. As in a top 10 reach.

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/05/06/10-biggest-draft-reaches/

    • I’ll keep this in a file. Different teams use different draft formulas. For instance, Seattle seems to go by SPARQ more than production, and that seems to work for them. That’s how they uncover athletic freaks in the mid-rounds and everyone asks, “where did he come from?”
      Production is only one part of the formula. Jimmy Grahm didn’t do squat.
      Jaimie Collins, Pat’s LB, got drafted almost off his combine alone

      http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/jamie-collins?id=2539311

      Meanwhile, Michael Sam was SCC defensive player of the year would be lucky to make a practice squad.

      For me, it’s a blend of production, measurables, and intangibles, (which by it’s very definition, is difficult to assess).

      • Big Mike

        Explain Shea McClellin? Fat, soft, weak, small but fast and he made plays in college

  • Happy Mother’s Day to the one or two women Irish didn’t chase away!
    And for the rest of you Jabronis…

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/96/db/2c/96db2cc54ab8cf3cacb89fa76ec8d284.jpg

    • Irish Sweetness

      Especially to all you single mothers out there …

      …hey beb-bes … time to slow it down and get some traction ….. Irish in the house …..(puts on Marvin Gaye) … Come on …. let’s get it OOOOOOONNN … come on …. OOOH! …yeah … let’s get it OOOOOOONNNN… come on ! … yeah …….

  • Trac

    It should never take 10 minutes to finish the final 21 seconds of a basketball game. Jeez.

    • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

      Labron is a full grown man.

      • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

        no he’s not.

  • BearDown100393

    I don’t understand Brandon Marshall’s tweet.

    • NewBearInTown

      You have to read the one before it. He’s looking for someone to take over his instagram account for a week (perhaps while he’s at training camp).

      • BearDown100393

        Oh. Thanks. On its own, sounded like a weird personal ad.

      • Doc Hamstring

        Too bad he didn’t do the same thing when he was with the Bears. Except for the Christ bit, I could’a been a contender.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Shea McClellin, to date, can only be described as another Bears 1st round bust. I will be surprised if he can “UN-bust” at this point in his career.”

    • John Doe

      Not his fault. He was picked by the wrong team with the wrong scheme for him. Had Lovie picked Chandler Jones, Shea would have been most likely picked by Packers and would have turned into Clay Matthews II.

      • AlbertInTucson

        That is one heckuva LOT of conjecture.

        I have seen little or no evidence to back that up.

        • John Doe

          It was well reported at the time that the teams most interested in Shea were Packers, Patriots and Texans. He was borderline first round guy. Reggie Herring had confirmed Texans interest when he was hired by Bears 2 years ago.

          • AlbertInTucson

            That still doesn’t translate into “Clay Matthews II”.

          • John Doe

            The schemes of those 3 teams would have suited him better.

            He was not a “hand in the dirt” DE as Lovie claimed right after picking him at #19.

          • AlbertInTucson

            And that STILL doesn’t translate into “Clay Matthews II.”

          • John Doe

            I have no doubt that playing opposite roid boy Clay Matthews, Shea would have had great success.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Just cause you THINK so, doesn’t MAKE it so.

            3 seasons and I submit the actual evidence to date says “bust”.

            If he hadn’t been a first rounder, it’s more likely he would have been cut after two.

          • John Doe

            Or you will eat crow after Fangio turns him around.

          • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

            I’m sure all he needed was a good talking to.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Well thank you, Nostradamus.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Buddy Ryan called Samurai ‘Stupid’ because it took him so long to understand his pass coverage responsibilities.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Buddy also told Dave Duerson he was no good .

          • DaMurph

            Never called him stupid Irish, told him he was too slow not too dumb. he worked like crazy on his pass coverage to prove Ryan wrong. If he was too dumb to understand coverages he would have never been calling defenses from day 1

          • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

            Do you get Butkus from Bupkus? Time will tell.

          • Johnnywad

            Unless Clay Matthews II is like RC Cola to Coke. Or The sequel to pretty much any movie.

      • BerwynBomber

        That is a stretch. The Cheese develop players well but they also spot talent. Matthews, IIRC, was a surprise first round pick. Not many teams had him that high.

        For all you know the Cheese wanted nothing to do with McClellin and snickered when we took him.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I haven’t given up on Shea just yet. Good coaching, ILB. We’ll see. He’s on the roster, got nothing else to do …

        Expectation is now zero … but … ?

        • Trac

          Ha, by the time he learns the position, he’ll be 32.

      • yeah, because 1st round defenders Green Bay has picked in the last 5 years have turned out so well…

      • yeah, because 1st round defenders Green Bay has picked in the last 5 years have turned out so well…

      • Johnnywad

        Yeah, Shea is just a scheme change away from being a perennial pro bowler.

  • John Doe

    This new Bears management has put down a clamp on news and info. Rookie camp ended today but no word on who and how many tryouts got invited to training camp. In the years past, those who got contracts for training camp were announced right at the conclusion of rookie camp and many players were given the new in front of reporters.

    Jeremy Stoltz of Bear Report said that they have instituted new media policy where the reporters cannot watch the practice up close and are 60 yards away. The new media policy will lead to death of sites like Bear Report who depended on the close access to provide content to fans willing to pay. Dude is worried about losing his job. I hope they reverse this draconian media policy.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      so how is being 60 yards away in PRACTICE preventing him from reporting????

    • BearDown100393

      Bring binoculars.

  • John Doe

    Damn. Sam Acho graduated with an MBA from Thunderbird…

    Sam Acho @TheSamAcho · May 8
    It’s official! Graduated w/ my MBA from @Thunderbird. #1 ranked international MBA in the world! Caleb stole the show

  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

    All I need is a report saying 50 pints of Guinness a week prevents cancer & I’m officially the healthiest man alive.

    It’s why there are so many old Irishmen in Ireland. Or maybe they just look old.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis
    • Trac

      Because of the conditioning or because you really care? How does this effect you or the average taxpayer directly? When looking at all the other areas, the tax payer gets shafted, it’s really just a drop in the bucket to me.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        it is just another level of hypocrisy that the NFL has put forth, very similar to the Breast Cancer Pink campaign they run that only donates pennies on the dollars they raise, or the ‘No More’ campaign for domestic violence.

        There is no reason that the NFL would need Tax dollars, especially since up until this year they were a “NON-PROFIT” organization making billions. They put forth the idea that they care and are patriotic yet almost half the teams in the league were getting Tax dollars to help pay for it. I guess that is the American way now a days.

        • Trac

          I’ve learned to just rub dirt on the wound and go on. I’m a good little slave now.

    • BearDown100393

      Agreed. In the very least that money should be handed over to charity (how about toward veterans?). The NFL has a long running marketing strategy convincing customers of its uber patriotism. It is all shlock. And it uses the flag as product placement no different than Coca-Cola in a movie. I’m all for national proud. But not at the expense of tax payers handing over $5.4 million to greedy billionaires.

  • Sactowns#1

    Notable free agents still available:
    Osi Omenyiora
    Brandon Spikes
    Red Bryant
    Not of interest to the Bears but still interesting, there are quite a few good RB’s just languishing in free agency.

    • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

      I recall a few years ago that Osi was the reason Michael Strahan could say goodbye. Super Bowl MVP material.

      Now he’s 33 and sitting out there on the wire where nobody wants him.

      • Trac

        Weren ‘t we hoping to sign him before Peppers came to town? Funny how time flies.

        • Sactowns#1

          My guess is Peppers will come back to earth after last seasons resurgence. I’m sure he’ll look much more like the Julius we saw in navy and orange.

          • SC Dave

            Dunno, playing for a contender might give him another season or two

          • Doc Hamstring

            Yeah, there’s only so many shots you can take for that plantar fasciitis before they stop helping. Just ask Jason Taylor.

          • it’s more that 2013 was a one-year blip for Peppers. He’s always been a guy who needed to be properly motivated, and Trestman/Tucker plus no D leader meant Peppers no care.

      • Doc Hamstring

        Doesn’t he have back issues? That’s bad juju when it comes to a rangy pass rusher.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      DJ Swearinger is going to be released soon and Jermaine Gresham is a FA. Both would be good here.

      • Sactowns#1

        We already have a stud TE. A safety would be nice but IDk what kind of money DJ is asking for. If he eats up the entire cap space then hell nah.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          Gresham is insurance against a prolonged holdout by Marty B.

          • That’s what I was thinking. I remember seeing Gresham on hard knocks, and he wanted to take on Atkins in the Omaha Drill. A TE going up against an all pro DT, and it looked like he won! (though he cheated a bit)

            As Viper in Top Gun remarked, “I like that.”

            Good to have guys like that on the team without the mercurial craziness inherent in the Bennetts.

            I think Bennett is a baller on the field, but I’m getting pretty tired of his antics. And he’s always playing with some sort of inj too.

      • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

        Swarengin? Deadwood cometh….

      • Waffle

        Gresham just had back surgery. Difficult road ahead.

      • DJ Swearinger has reportedly clashed with teammates repeatedly. Pace has spent the offseason dumping guys like that and bringing in locker room stalwarts; why would he go against that now before he has a chance to fully establish his culture, especially for a player who hasn’t been particularly good in the NFL so far?

  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

    If you want to crown his ass, crown him!

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Khaseem Greene has been released.

    • Big Mike

      No surprise there. He never really did anything. Some say he was never the same after his teammate and roomate at Rutgers Eric LeGrand was paralyzed in 2010.

    • Trac

      Good for him, I hope he doesn’t get captured again.

    • BearDown100393

      Sounds nasty. Better get vaccinated.

      • Trac

        Hahahaha

      • BillW

        No relation to Soylent Green(e).

    • Doc Hamstring

      He didn’t have a place on a 3-4 defense–not to mention he didn’t show enough promise in the 4-3.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Irish’s boy Terry Williams has been signed to a 3yr. deal.

  • Trac

    Brady suspended 4 games for meddling with the NFL ‘ S balls.

    • Sactowns#1

      He should have gotten more for being a sackless wonder and hiding behind the lowly equipment guy.

    • NewBearInTown

      http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/11/tom-brady-suspended-four-games-for-his-role-in-deflategate/

      After thinking about the corked bat analogy, I have decided I think this is slightly harsh, but not unreasonable.

      I think four games is on the high end of reasonable for Brady. As mentioned, corked bats in baseball result in the equivalent of a 1-2 game suspension, so doubling the penalty due to non-cooperation yields a max of 4 games. The league could settle an appeal by agreeing to reduce this to 2 games and the punishment would still be reasonable.

      I also think a first and a fourth (over two seasons) is steep for the team. The $1M is fine as is (basically an expensive parking ticket for you or me). If the team appealed, I think the league could settle by reducing the penalty to a 2016 second rounder and 2017 fifth rounder and similarly still be in the realm of reasonable.

      I also would have liked a statement from the league that the competition committee or whatever will be looking to reevaluate how footballs are inspected and brought to the field. Not sure there’s a better way, but somebody should look at it.

      • The corked bat analogy might be accurate, but this deflate gate fiasco is only the latest of cheating episodes for the Pats, so I would argue the penalty should have been harsher.
        It’s like if someone on the Cubs gets caught corking a bat. Then a pitcher gets caught putting something extra on the ball. Then another cub gets busted for a PED….and on top of all that, the owner and players are obstinate, obstructionist and arrogant demanding an apology from the Commish!

        • SC Dave

          No way corked bat for one player is equivalent. every play cheated for seven years. And everyone knows.

          Gawd goodell is a cocksucker

          • That is true. Maybe it’s the equivalent of the entire team playing with a corked bat.

          • Doc Hamstring

            You say that as if sucking cock is a bad thing.

        • Sosa was known to be juicing and corked his bat.

          • And that’s why he’ll always be known as a cheater, and rightfully so.
            No amount of charm can wipe that shit stain off the diaper.

      • Trac

        It is what it is.

      • SC Dave

        Pissant wrist slap. Pathetic wimp commissioner

        • SC Dave

          A pats cocksucker i mean

      • BerwynBomber

        Sosa IIRC was suspended seven games for his corked bat. But I digress.

        The Brady game suspension seemed just/fair. But the organizational punishment seemed a tad harsh.

        But guess what? In all likelihood the Pats knew Brady lied and nevertheless supported him. Maybe if he had admitted wrongdoing from the get-go the league would have confined the punishment to Brady alone and it may have only been a game. But the Pats decided to stand by their lying golden boy and got burned by it.

        • NewBearInTown

          7-10 games is the penalty in baseball, but baseball has a 120 game season. 7 games in baseball is equivalent to a bit more than 1 game in the NFL based on the percentage of the season missed.

      • yeah, but a 1-2 game suspension in baseball is the equivalent of a 1 quarter suspension in football. 16 game season vs. 162.

        • BerwynBomber

          True but baseball’s post-season does not translate/isn’t very representative either. At most they play an 1/8th of the season in the MLB playoffs. In the NFL (and I believe in the NBA and NHL too) a team can play a quarter of a regular season schedule in the post-season.

          One reason why I’ve thought MLB should shorten their season and expand their post-season series to best of nine as opposed to seven.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      The 4 game suspension of Brady is what i expected, hopefully the NFL stands its ground on the appeals and leaves it at 4 games. The draft picks surprised me, I honestly figured they would only lose a 3rd round pick. As someone else stated the 1 mill fine is just a drop in the bucket, but i think it is equal to the largest fine given out to a team in history.

      • Some speculated that the NFL held off until after the draft not only as to not distract, but also to add a heftier price to taking away the draft picks.

        Unless the Pats repeat, they’re not drafting at #32 this year, and taking away a pick in the 20s is much worse than essentially a 2nd rd pick.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          that makes sense. Unfortunately with the Pats luck, Jimmy Garoppolo will be the second coming of Tom Brady, giving the Pats the ability to trade Tommy boy off to a needy team for a boatload. He is 37 so you know his time is limited with the Pats the way the drop aging vets before it is too late.

    • AlbertInTucson

      The NFL get’s some blame for this, too.

      The whole concept of allowing ANY customization of footballs to suit the likes of Peyton and Brady or, for that matter, punters & kickers, is ludicrous.

      Here is the ball will play with .
      Learn to hold it.
      Learn to throw it.
      Learn to Punt it.
      Learn to kick it.

      Otherwise, move along, please.

  • I talked to my bro-in law who is a Pat’s fan. When I asked him about Brady deflate gate, he just smirked and and responded, “C’mon. Like deflating a ball a little is going to tarnish his 4 SBs”.
    I think the avg fan will interpret it that way, esp with ex-qbs coming out and admitting they did it too, and with the others remaining suspiciously silent either way.

    No matter. Hopefully the 4 game suspension holds up.

    • Trac

      That’s like saying that Gaul despised Rome after being sacked and plundered. Brady and the Cheetah will be laughing all the way to Romania.

    • EnderWiggin

      I like the suspension. But the 1st round pick! Holy sheet. I’m guessing a coach or two must have known about it.

      • SC Dave

        Belicheat and all the rest knew. Can you be that naive?

        • Doc Hamstring

          Ignorance didn’t save Sean Payton from punishment. Dunno why it’s saving Belichek.

          • Payton knew. It happened vocally in the locker room. He had no plausible deniability; Belichick does.

            Not to mention the safety issue, with the concussion lawsuits looming, forced the NFL into historic-level punishments there.

    • BerwynBomber

      Can’t say I agree. It may not tarnish all the SBs but I don’t know how it doesn’t this last one.

      Also don’t know if I buy the line all the other QBs do it. (Btw, that’s the Nixon defense.) What I have heard is that *some* QBs like a certain air pressure in their footballs but I have yet to hear that yes, they too knowingly went above or below the league specs. In other words, it is one thing to deflate (or inflate) the balls a little to your liking w/in the league’s range. It is another thing to knowingly cheat.

  • SC Dave

    Pathetic, wimp wrist slap for the Chetriots

    • EnderWiggin

      A 1st and a 4th is a slap on the wrist?!

      • SC Dave

        Yes. Nothing. Vacating the super bowl title is just the start

        • Doc Hamstring

          Vacating the title? Are you kidding me? That would be unprecedented, would be a punishment far beyond the single instance that could be likely proven here. That would be dropping a nuke on the league.

          I’m not defending the Patriots. They have cheated multiple times and there are likely dozens more things like this. But vacating a title isn’t proportionate here.

          • SC Dave

            True, at lest to those to whom the principle of fair play eans nothing.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Can we get the Tarheels to vacate their 2005 title while we’re at it?

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            It’s not like the Illini get it though do they?

          • BerwynBomber

            It would extreme, no doubt. But if you went by the letter of the law (and ice cold deduction) you can argue they won a game illegally and therefore should have never been in the SB. Technically, a forfeit if you will.

            But I agree with you.

            Butch and I (and someone else) had this conversation last week. Both the NFL and NCAA would never vacate titles so close to a championship game as it would be very harmful to their product. So it is more a business/marketing calculation than an ethical one.

    • BearDown100393

      Far too lenient of a punishment. Burning at the stake feels more just.

    • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

      I think it was Jason La Canfora who said the NFL handbook states that failure to keep balls within designated limits will result in a $25,000 fine. If that’s true, I’d say what he (they) got is much worse than just a slap on the wrist.

      • But one must consider the cover up, which is always worse, and the history of the pats cheating.
        And on top of all that, the owner demanding an apology for besmirching their name.

        Besmirching…that word is not used often enough.

      • SC Dave

        At $25k per occurence since 2007, im thinkimg you’re wrong

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    someone should let Barb know there are a couple job openings as equipment assistant and locker room attendant. Not sure Barb can get a work visa but i think it would be his dream job to fondle, i mean handle, all the balls of the Patriots.

  • Order you Madden with Tommy on the cover!

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEwzYz1VAAAQY8o.jpg:large

  • Some “insights” from Pompeii after rook camp. I just got on the twitts again, so here’s some.

    10. It’s a little different w/Jared Allen because pads, hitting don’t help evaluate pass drops much. Fangio likes what he’s seen–good sign.

    9. Vic Fangio had nice things to say about Shea McClellin, but the truth is no one has any idea what kind of ILB he’ll be until pads come on

    8. I’m getting the feel performance will be determining factor on how much Matt Forte splits carries with Langford or other backs on roster.

    7. Nothing exceptional from Jeremy Langford, but he was taking what was there. Saw some slipperiness in tight quarters and quick feet.

    6. Ability to get to 2nd level & inline quicks stand out with Hronis Grassu. His movement skills are an asset Bears haven’t had in awhile.

    5. Shane Carden looked a little better than expected. He made some nice throws outside the numbers.

    4. Adrian Amos looks like he has potential to be an interceptor. He has range, length, and excellent hands. Made catches away from his body.

    3. Kevin White easily is the most impressive rookie wide receiver I’ve ever seen walk through the doors at Halas Hall.

    2. Kevin White is impressively big and strong, but has the quickness and change of direction of a smaller man.

    1. Kevin White had a dominant rookie camp. He had a lot of balls thrown his way, and he caught many, some in impressive fashion.

    • Trac

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    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      how could he possibly report all that when the team is making the reporters stand 60 yards away?LOL.

      • Doc Hamstring

        Binoculars are cheap and plentiful.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          lol, i know – just taking a cheap shot at John Doe

          • Doc Hamstring

            Oh, OK. Carry on, then.

    • NewBearInTown

      Interesting on Grasu. I read that the biggest knock on him is that he doesn’t have the top end strength to go one on one with the biggest nose tackles (the way a guy like Olin did). He could develop that strength, but he’s not there yet.
      Thing is, we’ve got two nasty tackles backing him up in Long and Slauson (and some good options backing them up as well). Grasu can lean on guard help to pick up those big blocks, then use off-balance adjustment and speed to make some great pulling plays
      This will be a great running team, and likely better in years to come.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Having a young smart, fit man in there at Center will have us looking like a different team methinks.

  • Decent summary into Fangio’s new D. Having a “3-4” is new to CHI, so it might take a while for us to wrap our minds around it. It’s going to be a 3-4 base, but he admitted that teams only run their base maybe like 30%.
    The other times the Bears will run a nickle, 4-3, and even a 5-2.

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/05/11/durkin-bears-vic-fangio-envisions-hybrid-3-4-defense/#comments

    I think it might take a while for the players to learn the nuances and gel together, but at least for the first few games, we might have the element of surprise.

  • willbest

    I like that the NFL started out where they did. Its going to be cut to 1 game, the fine will be reduced to 100k, and the draft pick will be a 3rd rounder after arbitration.

    • SC Dave

      They should have started with a $100m fine, lifetime ban for brady and belciheat, loss of 2016 and 2017 drafts, and forfeiture of sb title. Then negotiated downwards.

      • NewBearInTown

        I feel like you harbor some ill will toward that franchise SC.

        • SC Dave

          No, its about winning the wrong way. And its xactly why i like the spurs… for winning the right way

          • willbest

            That you know of anyway. Maybe Pop is an exceptional cheater

      • willbest

        Can’t punish what you can’t prove. Cowboys won their division last year with the help from Henry Melton. Who had charges dropped against him after he became a Cowboy. Should they lose their division crown? And there are plenty of other players that have charges dropped or never brought in the first place.

  • NewBearInTown

    So who on here has listened to snarky puppy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_XJ_s5IsQc

    Just got introduced by a friend from college (who is now a music professor). Wow…

    • Cormonster

      That was some crazy shit. I’m gonna have to listen to some more.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Robert Kraft can take his response to the NFL’s action and choke on it.

    People go to prison every day, for long, long periods of time, based on circumstantial evidence.

    Tommy got caught in the big lie about “not knowing” which impeached anything else he had to say on the matter.

    Case closed.

    Plus, you ain’t in court here. You lie to most employers, they show you the door.

    • ChiBear86

      Well said. I have used the “more probable than not” language multiple times as an employer. People forget this is not a murder trial. It’s an employer with a much lower burden of proof.

      • AlbertInTucson

        The Patriot indignence is getting to be sickening.

    • BerwynBomber

      Agreed. Suggesting that we need DNA or Tommy’s confession to buy it is kind of insulting.

      • Also, it’s kinda hard to get “definitive” proof when the person of interest isn’t turning over evidence.

        • Trac

          Kraft’s actions are straight out of Plato’s playbook. It’s what the world does.

  • Pats only play 4 playoff teams in ’15.
    Least amount of playoffs team a SB team faces in 15 yrs.
    Death, Taxes, and a cakewalk schedule for the Pats.

    • again, the schedule is pre-determined based on formulas. Even road and home teams are set years in advance. The only 2 games that vary are based on previous year performance, and since the Pats won their division in 2014, they’ll face 2 other division winners from 2014.

      • I can already tell you 14/16 of Chicago’s games for 2019, including road and home opponents.

        http://www.fbschedules.com/nfl/chicago-bears.php

      • Johnnywad

        I don’t think he’s suggesting it’s rigged. I think he’s just lamenting the fact that it often seems they have an easy schedule. That division has been pretty weak for a while outside of NE. While it’s only six of sixteen games, it still feels lopsided.

        • I think the AFC in general has been weaker than the NFC, especially in terms of depth, for several years now, and that’s 12/16 games for the Pats. And then like you said, the Pats haven’t had a good team in the their division since the Jets were good in 2008-09.
          Those are two big factors. But it’s also just that they’ve been good and routinely beaten even good teams.

  • EnderWiggin

    I hate to change the subject. But…

    If that Freakazoid Prince Bolton dude sodomizes Sansa Stark in any way, I’ll stop watching that show forever.

    I always liked Middle-Finger, but the dude is a dumbass for taking her there to marry that guy. If anything, Middle-Finger and Sansa should have shown up in the North with a big fekkin army.

    • What in THEE heck are you talking about? Dungeons and dragons?

      • EnderWiggin

        Gimmie a break. I said I was changing the subject.

        • All i see is michael bolton sodomizing james starks. I think ur referring to that hbo show with the midget, but not sure since I havnt seen it

          • EnderWiggin

            HAHA. Yeah man, that is the one.

    • BillW

      I’ve not seen it in several years. The only thing that stops me from picking it up again is I’d have to start all over to remember who is who (and who’s not dead).

      Isn’t Sansa about 14 years old? Didn’t she witness her dad (headless Ned) get the blade? Man – that’s when I knew this was a show for a new generation.

      I loved the SNL skit that showed GoT being run by a pre-teen boy who just wanted to see tits and more tits.

    • BearDown100393

      Money. Power. The usual. It was discussed in the episode but I do not remember the specifics. He made a deal with Bolton in advance. The worm has turned for that psychopath anyway. His father is about to have a legitimate child. HBO is now in charge of its own scripts. So my best guess is that Sansa will marry Daenerys at Red Wedding II and after a 3 hour orgy scene, each have their throats cut by Lena Dunham.

  • Trac

    Any Jeff sightings? I guess he must be nearing his 50th pint of Guinness. Any day now….

  • BillW

    My thoughts on Beady and his legacy:
    He is a liar and a cheat. Simple. There is no way of knowing what other things he may have done. Therefore in my mind he will never be in the conversation of best qbs.

    Patriot fans are being defensive on message boards and I get it. But in their case it would have been better to have lost the sb this year. Again, what might have the Patriots done over the years that never got caught?

    The team will always have that suspicion. And if I was a fan of theirs I’d be sick. I’d want my team respected for their accomplishments. Not suspected of them not being earned.

    • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

      The Pats have a long legacy of cheating, hence the name Bellicheat.

      When rooks go to rook camp, they get this book and long lecture called “Protect the Shield”. THe NFL Shield. It’s all a bunch of hooey as we know, but they are indoctrinated to learn that every action they take is a reflection on the NFL. As we know from Hernandez, Carruth and Sharper, the league has it’s share of thugs. So this is all just butter on the bread.

      Do I think lots of players do things for competitive advantage? Rob Johnson of the Bucs admitted he scuffed and deflated the balls in the Raiders-Bucs Super Bowl for Chuckie. So what? Lots of players do shit. The Pats however, have a huge statistical deviation in completion % and fumble %. I think that changes how the team should be viewed over time.

      • BillW

        Belichick is great at using the rules in his favor – like the whole eligible / non-eligible receiver thing. While he has plausible deniability in this one – it seems quite possible that he suggested Brady find a way to hold on the football better (maybe after the tuck rule game?)

        I can’t put Belichick among the game’s innovators. I don’t think he added to the game (like Buddy’s 46 or the West Coast offense or the many things Paul Brown did.) He simply used (or abused) the rules to his favor. In other words, he’s clever and sneaky.

        And crosses the line at times. Because he can. And figures the reward is worth the risk.

        That’s not a coach to be admired and lauded. That’s a coach you simply look at and at best say – well, good for him (I guess).

        For example – the whole inflation standard is maybe a dumb rule to begin with. But did he lobby for getting it eliminated? Like he’s been lobbying for expanding what can be challenged? Of course not. He figured the other 31 suckers will play by the rules and “if” his QB doesn’t then they get an advantage.

        Can’t admire him. Can’t deny his success but anyone who thinks they happened by playing by the rules is naive. No – what Patriot supporters are really saying is the end justifies the means.

  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist
    • willbest

      Consider he got cut because he didn’t want to play special teams, not exactly the player you want on your roster.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        It doesn’t matter, he goes to waivers. TB likes him and has 1st priority.

  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

    Don Yee is going to try and appeal this outside the NFL, in a civil court in Minnesota. District shopping the judge that let AP off the hook.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/11/don-yee-nfl-ruling-against-brady-has-no-legitimate-basis/

    I think Don Yee is talking shit. It would be a massively bad idea to take on the NFL over Tom’s Soft Balls in civil court. Rodger would then start hitting Kraft with other investigations that might be even worse. THe last thing Rodger the dodger is going to put up with is civil judges making rulings on his league.

    • BillW

      Well, if the NFL is taken to court, let’s see Brady get away with withholding evidence.

      This lawyer is posturing like the JRW lawyers and spokespeople were. He is trying to get public opnion on his side by making comparisons to court cases. This is employer/employee – not a legal matter.

      If it were a legal matter, Tommie Boy would be facing possible jail time for contempt of court in withholding evidence. His records would have been subpoenaed and God knows what else they would have found.

      • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

        Tommy in prison
        for his soft balls
        Tommy in prison
        for his weak calls
        Tommy in prison
        how you like dem apples
        Tommy in prison
        happy in Seattle

      • willbest

        Well there are legal obligations for employer/employee. There are tens of thousands of regulations, but in this case, some to most might be superseded by the CBA. I haven’t read it but I thought that arbitration was the first step prior to filing a civil suit.
        As for what is and isn’t discoverable that all depends on what the NFL is allowed to bring as a counter claim. If the count is for violating the process of the CBA, and the NFL brings no counter claims the court won’t give two craps about whether Tom deflated balls or not, and none of that will be discoverable.

        • BillW

          This could get real good. We might get a double benefit out of this – Patriots punished and Goodell out.

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