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The McDonald Dilemma: Does Being a Sports Fan Come with a Social Responsibility?

| March 25th, 2015

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The Bears on Tuesday signed Ray McDonald.

When I heard that, when I heard the team I spend so much time thinking about and cheering for signed this man with a checkered past, my initial reaction was a simple, “Ugh”.Ugh as in how could the Bears overlook a track record of violence towards women in the name of good defensive line play. Ugh as in how could this new Bears leadership be so eager to ship Brandon “Tartikoff” Marshall to New Jersey for less than a Rutt’s Hut ripper in the name of personality problems while bringing in McDonald on the recommendation of their new defensive coordinator alone. Ugh as in how, after the NFL’s dark troubles of 2014, could the Bears so willingly enter that conversation in 2015?

(The Tribune provides a legal timeline for McDonald HERE.)

But there was an even worse Ugh. Ugh as in the realization that the first time McDonald buries Aaron Rodgers or Matthew Stafford or Teddy Bridgewater I will be the first one to applaud and forget all his transgressions.

On Twitter I asked for fan responses to the McDonald signing. Here is a sampling:

he was never charged for anything lack of evidence therefore is a great sign we are adding a 3-4 end and someone fangio knows
I’ve got 3 stepdaughters & my favorite team just signed a serial domestic abuser. I’m not thrilled, that’s for sure.
No player is gonna be a saint; however if he committed another crime under Bears watch I’d be pretty disgusted with all
I’m genuinely pissed about it. I don’t care how good he is on the field. If our leadership is unable to sign players w/o violent histories it’s failing.

Does being a sports fan come with a social responsibility? Do we as ticket buyers, jersey owners, bloggers, commenters bear some of the responsibility for the actions of the team we support? Should the 65,000 in Soldier Field on Sunday use their expensive pulpit to influence ownership along moral lines? Somewhere in Chicagoland there is a woman like Missy who will not watch the Chicago Bears this season because of their employing McDonald. And she is right to do so. But on that same block, on a dark tavern barstool is a man who could care less what the players do off the field. The Bears are his escape. He roots for what Jerry Seinfeld referred to as “clothes”. You know what? He is right too.

The world is gray. Too often the First Take culture surrounding sports forgets that. One does not need to be sympathetically for or vehemently against the signing of Ray McDonald. Allowing for the conversation can be enough. Asking the questions of yourself and those around you can be cathartic. “I’m not sure” can be just as profound a response to the McDonald question as “I have daughters and this makes me sick” or “he’s never been charged so I’m fine with it”.

Does being a sports fan come with a social responsibility? Of course it does. Sports are part of life and life comes with a social responsibility. The Bears went out of their way Tuesday to explain the process by which McDonald was hired, even insinuating Virginia McCaskey had signed off on the decision herself. They understood how this acquisition would be viewed by a portion of the fan base and felt they needed to explain themselves. Would they have done the same for a special teamer or backup quarterback? Of course not. McDonald is a terrific football player. He may also be a bad guy. That is a fence straddled by front offices across the NFL every single day.

And not just the front offices. Kyle Long, the new leader of the Bears locker room, Tweeted: “If yall don’t like second chances I can go back to folding t shirts and sticking the shoe room at the surf shop lol.” Four years ago the notion of Long being one of the most beloved members of an NFL franchise was a pipe dream. Hell, five years ago the notion of Long being a professional football player AT ALL was unlikely. He was “a bad guy”. Is he a good guy now? Was Olin Kreutz a good guy? Steve McMichael? Walter Payton? Mike Ditka? Gray. A whole lot of gray.

This column can’t have a clean conclusion, despite what the structure snob within me desires. But let me end it by saying this. The Chicago Bears – Long, Ryan Pace, coaches, McCaskeys – are now responsible for the behavior of Ray McDonald. If he is arrested for pissing on Rush Street after a night on the town, credibility is lost. If he is accused of another domestic incident, questions will arise as to whether the Bears have competent leadership at any level of the organization. The Bears have taken a risk far greater than the football field in 2015 by acquiring McDonald. They have risked defacing the Chicago Bears brand. They are risking a hundred years of history.

While the Bears have not won nearly enough in my lifetime, one thing is true: I’ve never had to apologize for them. Maybe I won’t now either. But is the possibility worth the production?

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  • Bears-4-Ever

    Blown way out of proportion. He’s not been convicted of anything, correct? How many NFL players smoke weed or take drugs? You think any of these guys are saints off the field? A few perhaps, like Tillman as an example. But the Majority of Professional athletes these days are just plan thugs. Look at the NBA, it’s like watching gang members playing in a southside park half the time.

    I think this is a good sign for a defense that needs critical help. If he plays like a beast and helps us win games, I’m all for it. If the Bears are “smart”, and that is still very debatable, then they can put a clause in his contract that if he gets in any trouble with the cops on domestic violence from this point forward his contract is null and void.

    I hope he breaks QBs in half.

    BEAR DOWN.

    • NewBearInTown

      Taking drugs is very different from putting your hands on a woman.
      And people put way too much faith in the legal system when saying “he was charged! he’s a bad guy” and when saying “not convicted, he’s fine!” Both conclusions are wrong.
      What little I’ve read suggests this guy has come from some violent relationships, where the female participants have been similarly dangerous. But who knows? I don’t want the team employing someone who is a genuinely bad guy – but I’m willing to give a chance to someone who finds himself in tough situations and is willing to grow as a person.
      Brandon Marshall had the same kind of wrap sheet and turned himself around. I’ll give any player the chance to do the same.
      If he screws up? Cut him.

      • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

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        • NewBearInTown

          That would be an issue. I’ll wait patiently.

          • Bears-4-Ever

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            gamesbyemail.com

            It’s free and all you need is the other players e-mail to invite them to a game. Also it has some other great games, like Classic Risk and a Clone of Axis & Allies (WWII) 2nd Edition rules.

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          • Bears-4-Ever

            Invite Sent Doc…check you spam that’s where they usually end up.

          • Cormonster

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          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I’m terrible at chess, but I’m going to get the app.

          • Cormonster

            Bring it on. The only way to get better is to play and lose a lot of games.

            What do you think of Wisconsin’s chances in the tournament? I really really want to see a rematch against Kentucky in the Final Four. I think the Badgers have the talent to win it all, but first they have to get through this weekend and a really good Arizona team. They have to play much better than they did last weekend. They looked tired and just going through the motions against Oregon.

            I read that Illinois has a pretty good recruiting class coming in next year. I would like to see them start getting more competitive again.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I have been rooting for the Badgers. Frank the Tank is a killer.
            The Illini just wore me out this year. Another dysfunctional group…Firing Weber got us nowhere. And I can’t even look forward to football season either, so there’s that!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Instantchess.com

    • T’Challa

      I disagree with the thug analogy, but I do agree with the fact that he hasn’t been convicted. Too many times there are alleged crimes that are not factual. I don’t know if he is guilty or innocent of the incident, but without a conviction, I am not inclined to say he is guilty.

      I would think that if a prosecutor had enough proof or evidence to file charges on an NFL player, they would. The headlines and publicity would be great for their law careers. Maybe I am wrong, but for a famous athlete not to be charged, makes me believe that there really must not be much to the case or incident.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Black Panther!

  • BearDown100393

    Nice front post. You nailed it. IMO McDonald is a piece of shit. I don’t need indictments, arrests, convictions to arrive at that assessment. And I’d rather he not have been signed by the Bears. I don’t care what he brings to the table as a player. I’m well aware others will not feel the same. And that is okay with me. I’m really not looking to troll these threads about Ray McDonald. Second chances? McDonald burned through that already. First his pregnant fiance (while intoxicated). And then someone else (while intoxicated). The 49ers had enough (and that says something right there). The 49ers were right.

    • GPLDAN

      Just because the DA couldn’t get a charge to stick because the pregnant girlfriend was intimidated doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

      And who the fuck cares that Ginny signed off on it? Does she have a personal relationship with God since she dated Moses before she met George? When did rich owners have more moral sensibility than the public? Old rich people know better? Pttthhhh. F that.

      • BearDown100393

        Well expressed.

        • GPLDAN

          Ginny thought Phil Emery was a fine young man. He showed her a picture of him in his dress blues and she was smitten.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            I should send her one of me in my dress blues and maybe they’ll hire me to be their CFO.

          • GPLDAN
          • BearDown100393

            Devil with the blue dress… blue dress…

    • Johnnywad

      Well said. And I agree.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Bears are shaking up the weight room, training staff. Fox said there were way too many soft tissue injuries last year. I think part of the problem was that we had the oldest roster in the league last year, but a shakeup was necessary.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      They signed 6 FA with an average age of more than 28.

      • Waffle

        that’s nothing my man, second contract for a lot of them, a lot of younger guys on prove it deals. We only signed like 1 rapist out of 6 which is a mere 17% of their signings. Only 17% rape and assault percentage is not bad for free agency.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          he’s no rapist. He was smart enough to realize he’s fucking bitches and bitches do what bitches do. So he filled his house with cameras.

          That’s smart stuff.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Shea McClellin will be given the first shot at one of the ILB spots, Fox and the gang were high on him coming out of Boise State.

    • GPLDAN

      Fox and the gang? Do you know for a fact that the Broncos had him short listed?

      the pundits were wrong about Shae. He’s not country strong.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        He said it in his presser this morning. I agree with you though, he isn’t country strong.

        • GPLDAN

          That’s just smoke blowing. “We were also high on him coming out of college.” is code words for “he had talent in college, but so far we haven’t seen the step up necessary to make it as a pro.”

      • Bear Down in Tampa
    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Wasted time.

      • SC Dave

        It’s their time to waste, so I’m good with it. It would be better to get a good backup out of that pick than nothing at all.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I get it…you’re part of the ‘let’s wait until Rogers retires’ party.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Fox will be bringing back the captains system. 2 off, 2 def, 1 ST and 1 weekly rotating captain based on performance.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Go Trestman !!!

      PS: Who cares about this stuff anyway ?

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Don’t shoot the messenger, just reporting what I saw from the Presser.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Mate… I wasn’t talking about you.
          Why is the captain issue reported, asked, answered ? Nobody cares.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Because Trestman’s approach led to such a dysfunctional locker-room, I suppose…and that had as much to do with our annus horribilis of 2014 as the lack of defensive talent.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            that’s like watching the finger instead of the forest.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Or the moon instead of all the heavenly glory?

    • Big Mike

      Not having a captain just pissed me off.

  • Waffle

    Who will be treated worse this year?
    A. Human garbage who is a stout 3-4 DL and has a very recent history of violence towards women
    B. The most vile human being in the league who tries his best to help kids but who had 3 or 4 too many INT’s last year and became the worst QB in the history of the Bears.

    • GPLDAN

      Whoever plays best on the field gets booed the least. This is Chicago.

      Last game I attended with my son, my son wanted to know why everybody around us wanted to castrate Rex Grossman since he was on our team.

      • Waffle

        Bears fans will fucking boo at the drop of a hat now. it’s out of control. I’m really talking about this media bastardization that has occurred regarding a guys character where players like Hardy, McDonald, etc fade away and become non issues and you’ll still have random reporters and bloggers pull up shit that happened 3,4,5 years ago regarding Cutler just to formulate an angle on a story. Don’t you find that fucked up? Then they use that inherent bias towards the negative to paint our QB in a way that, if a truly uniformed or new fan to the sport were to look at it, they’d think that we simply have the most putrid, hateful, cancerous, shitbag motherfucking loser QB who shouldn’t even be playing in the NFL period.
        Happens every day. I want you guys to truly think about what these truly bad guys actually do to their victims, compare it to the outrage that is formulated about Cutler every single fucking day, and then shake your motherfucking heads.

        • BearDown100393

          I agree.
          Is it okay I still hate Cutler?

          • Waffle

            I guess. Just hate McDonald a ball hair more.

          • BearDown100393

            Mission accomplished.

        • GPLDAN

          My motherfucking head be shakin.

          • BearDown100393

            In jail, a prisoner can be killed by the inmates for beating women and harming children. In the NFL, you are rewarded a 2nd chance with $millions as long as you are great on Game Day.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          But remember that one time when he was riding a bike?
          And he did shove that google-eyed offensive lineman…sort of. Well, it was a bump.

          • Waffle

            He should have let his knee turn to spaghetti like RG3 just to make sure he could never play meaningful football ever again.
            The hatred about that continues to this day. You’d think he was on that bike whilst whipping a 4yr old in the testicles with a tree branch.

          • I think a Bears fan told me that Rivers played through the same inj, while cutty was riding a bike and taking a drag in arguably the biggest Bears game in decades.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Rivers actually tore his ACL, Cutlers was an MCL sprain. Not bashing, just reporting the facts.

          • BerwynBomber

            Brees played half a year with an MCL sprain without missing a game. Not saying that to criticize Cutty but the Cutty-as-victim thing gets a little old and silly.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Neither a victim nor a hero in that scenario…he was just injured, is my point.

  • This is great, Jeff. Spot on.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Let the record show that I don’t give a damn about Shane (see what I did there?) McClellin and I was just reporting what Fox said in the presser this AM.

    • SC Dave

      I don’t get the hate. Wouldn’t it be better if under competent coaching he worked out to be a decent player rather than a totally wasted pick?

      • willbest

        Only if he stays in Chicago. Otherwise, he would still be a waste of a pick.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        I want him to for the sake of the Beloved, but I am just over waiting for the production. This is the defense we drafted him for, not the Cover 2, not the whateverthehellmeltuckerran, the 3-4. The Cheese and Pats loved this guy pre-draft and there was a reason, hopefully Fangio unlocks the talent, I’m just not holding my breath.

        • SC Dave

          Fair enough, and pretty much where I’m at. But for now, I’d prefer to remain hopeful.

  • GPLDAN

    Jeremy Clarkson popped a useless producer who fucked up for the Nth time in the mouth during a shout-up, and the BBC sacked him and destroyed the funniest motoring show… in the Wuuurrrld.

    Ginny meets with Old McDonald and puts him on the team, like when George Bush said he could see into Putin’s soul and found him good.

    Eee-I-Eee-I-this blows.

    • BearDown100393

      Putin has a soul?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Like a chicken has teeth.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Sorry, GP,

      Popping “a useless producer” in the mouth is unacceptable.

      This is not Mr. Clarkson’s first “behavioral issue”. It’s my understanding that he has a bit of a track record (no pun intended) and that the BBC had already put him on notice to straighten up.

      Who is calling the producer “useless” who screwed up “for the Nth” time?
      Jeremy Clarkson?

      • GPLDAN

        Clarkson’s unofficial mouthpiece, the Register, reported that Oisin Tyson had several fuck-ups and was genrally a kind of fuck-up. Gossip, perhaps, and maybe not an excuse to pop him in the mouth, but if you are a producer on Top Gear, you have to be down with man-code. And crying like a bitch to the BBC that Jeremy hit you is decidedly weak.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          It sounded like Clarkson owned up to it to upper management first…I think they were still torqued about the whole Falklands kerfluffle (talk about stupid reasons for anyone to get worked up).

        • AlbertInTucson

          What I read was that the producer didn’t rat him out but that Clarkson copped to it.

          I think you’re being totally unfair to the producer. It’s Clarkson’s people claiming the producer’s incompetant.

          Again, it was reported that Clarkson was having a hissy over a lack of hot food on the set and turnedhis wrath on the producer.

          I submit the producer knows better than to raise a fist in anger against air talent. That’s a quick ticket to the unemployment line.

          To me, Clarkson comes across as a Prima Donna /Asshole/ Bully.

        • Irish Sweetness

          He hit him in a public bar, I think. Clarkson’s been in sticky situations before, making general, unflattering comments about the French, Mexicans, whoever. I think he dropped the N-bomb in Argentina.

          He’ll get his own gig on a rival station. The other two will get hair-cuts and grow up.

    • guest

      in the FACE? Report says ARM, from restraining her from hitting him.

    • SC Dave

      Wow, and somebody like, cares?

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    A fan? Hell, being a human being comes with social responsibility. I know that’s not a universally held belief on here, but it does.
    And you’d think that the Bears would have the sense to know where there’s smoke, there is usually fire.
    Not going out to buy this dude’s jersey any time soon, I am sure of that.

    • Cormonster

      My first thought was individuals have personal responsibility and only corporations have social responsibility. Then I remembered that corporations are people too, so I guess we do all have some social responsibility.

      On a serious note, I don’t like the fact he’s on the Bears. It’s hard to root for players like him.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Hahahaha – now when is Dave going to drop some Ayn Rand on me?

        • Cormonster

          I’m still a big Ayn Rand fan (Viva too), but I’m not dogmatic about it. I’ve never taken her writing as gospel. I love her stands about being your own person and not living your life by how you perceive others thinking you should live your life (don’t be a second-hander). All of her villains are crony capitalists and corrupt politicians, which most people probably agree are scum of the earth type people. Oh, and she really despises leftist socialists / communists.

        • SC Dave

          I happen to agree with your post very much. Each of us has a responsibility to do the right thing as opportunities present themselves.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Just taking your pulse!

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    As a side note, I’m sure you enjoy the lone wolf gig, Jeff, but have you ever had any feelers about writing for a place like Grantland?

    • DaBearsBlog

      Never anything as big as Grantland but I’ve been approached by just about every “network” of sites there is. I’m about to start launching some advertising around here. The lone wolf strategy is paying off.

      • SC Dave

        Cool. Just don’t let it get gaudy, and PLEASE don’t have videos that load and play without me hitting the “play” button. That shit is the worst of the internet for sure, and the lack of it here is a giant plus to me.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Good for you Jeff, it’s a cool gig if you can make it pay

  • guestemup

    wow, all of you that already pass judgment on McDonald as a “serial domestic abuser”…..how the hell do you know the facts on any of the THREE incidents other than what was reported? You don’t know squat about it and to say you do is hilarious.
    Bears are fine signing him to a one-year prove-it deal, and Pace went through George & Martha Washington to ensure they were cool with it.
    So should we be too.

    • guestemup

      correction – TWO incidents

      • guestemup

        whoops….THREE

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’d ‘be cool’ with Brandon Marshall catching passes for us. And we know he didn’t rape or beat anybody …

  • FourFeathers

    A sizable portion of NFL football players are not good people. As fans we make excuses and rationalize to death on scumbags who play for our favorite team. Hell, look at the firestorm created around here by the Brandon Marshall trade. Marshall is unstable and determined to be a locker room cancer, but we had a lot of Bear fans rush to his defense and emphatically state that “all of that other stuff” doesn’t matter. Steeler fans did the same thing when Ben Roethlisberger was accused of date rape. Viking fans did the same thing when Adrian Peterson beat an innocent 4 year old child. Etc. etc.

    McDonald is walking scum who should be behind bars. But now some of you are going on a holier than thou kick that he is innocent until proven guilty and that there is a lot of hazy facts concerning the domestic violence charge and also the date rape chargers.

    Be careful who you hero worship.

  • willbest

    NFL players are modern day gladiators and we are shocked some of them have some behavioral issues? I am shocked they are able to stay so clean as a group given their ample opportunity for mischief.

    Look if he isn’t in prison, he is entitled to be gainfully employed. Does it really make a difference if its at Halas Hall or McDonald’s? Why boycott one if you wouldn’t the other. You no more own the Bears than you do McDonald’s. And if you have a problem with him working at either what is your solution? stake him and leave him to the crows? Give him a check from the taxpayers so he can feed and shelter himself?

    Now buying his jersey becomes an endorsement of the player. That is something people should think about.

    • BearDown100393

      A gladiator was a slave ordered to entertain under threat of death. A gladiator was not permitted free will in the decision on whether or not to engage in violence.

    • Johnnywad

      The difference between his employment at McDonald’s versus the Chicago Bears is not trivial. We as fans, have an emotional investment in the Bears and their players. No such connection to the guy behind the scenes at McDonald’s. That’s where the difference lies. I don’t like the guy. And I don’t like his signing.

      • Scott W.

        It’s hypocritical to toss Marshall into traffic for being “divisive” then turn around and sign this jackass.
        Stupid.

        • Bender McLugh

          no it’s not.

          they met with Marshall and couldn’t reconcile with him.

          they met with McDonald and could.

          • BillW

            While I wish they didn’t sign McDonald, it is different than with Marshall. Marshall from what we can gather was becoming divisive with management and in the locker room. The issue with McDonald is away from the team completely.

          • Scott W.

            Well, apparently the news that they negotiated with Marshall prior to trading him flew right past me.
            First I’ve heard that one.

          • BillW

            They didn’t negotiate with him. He was under contract. I think they wanted to see where his head was and they didn’t like what they heard.

            What troubles me is that Marshall probably was simply being honest, whereas McDonald could well have been good at telling Georgie what he wanted to hear.

            I hate Haugh but he had a great point. George is impressed that a multi-millionaire came to talk with him “on his own dime”? I think relatively speaking the plane ticket probably cost McDonald about the same percent of his salary as 10 cents is to mine.

          • Scott W.

            “…Marshall probably just being honest…”
            That’s what I’ve felt, and why I’m sorry he’s gone.
            Good call BillW.

        • BerwynBomber

          Marshall wasn’t moved because of his past as a wife-beater. He was moved because he became a distraction and was a locker room nuisance. The Marshall decision had nothing thing to do with his domestic violence sheet.

          • Scott W.

            Yeah, I know. It was probably a focus problem.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Brandon had behavioral issues – in the right places ! – but they’re prepared to entertain the devil with McDonald? I don’t get it.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    I’ll never need sleeping pills. I can just print out columns and Twitter conversations about the salary cap.”

    Never say “Never”. I didn’t need sleeping pills at your age, either.

    • If that’s the case, I have some columns he could print for material.

    • Scott W.

      So this…

  • GPLDAN

    I know Kyle Long twatted a vague reference to second-chances.

    Small problem: McDonald is on his 4th chance, depending on how you count this up:

    June 13, 2010: McDonald is arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence. The 25-year-old was pulled over on Interstate 280 after being clocked driving upwards of 94 miles per hour.

    July 22, 2010: McDonald pleads not guilty to driving under the influence. He was later sentenced to complete a first-offender program.

    Feb. 8, 2012: McDonald is arrested for an outstanding warrant after failing to provide proof that he completed the first-offender program.

    May 25, 2014: San Jose police were called to McDonald’s home to respond to an alleged incident of a woman grabbing a man’s gun. Police did not identify either person by name, according to ESPN, but multiple reports indicated the subjects were McDonald and his fiancée.

    Aug. 31, 2014: McDonald is arrested on suspicion of felony domestic violence in San Jose. Police reported “visible injuries” on the neck, face and arms of the alleged victim, who was believed to be McDonald’s fiancée. The incident took place at a party for McDonald’s 30th birthday. Other 49ers players were in attendance. Charges were never filed because of insufficient evidence.

    Dec. 17, 2014: San Jose police begin investigating McDonald in a sexual assault probe. A search warrant was served at his residence the day police got a call from a local hospital to report a possible sexual assault. He has not been charged.

    If the test is felony conviction, all this lovely innocent until proven guilty, then it appears all we have to do is wait.

    BTW there was plenty of outcry here when those pictures of AP’s battered kid went viral. He wasn’t convicted of a felony either.

    • BearDown100393

      I am willing to go out on a limb and suggest that Jake and Kyle may have grown up only watching their dad’s network. Might explain a lot.

    • Big Mike

      A DUI Is bad. My guess is 25-50% of fans in attendance at Soldiers Field wouldn’t pass a field sobriety test. The 1st, 2nd and 3rd items on the list all relate to the same charge. Since the arrest for “failing to provide evidence” charge doesn’t show up again, It would appear that he complied with this requirement. Maybe he didn’t send in the paperwork, maybe he hadn’t taken the class, but ultimately he complied.

      The 4th incident – woman grabs his gun, tells me he needs to dump her. It also tells me his gun was registered and he complied with all the rules and regulations for having a gun. Otherwise there would have been more charges.

      5th incident, Shame on him. Shame on him in a big way. No excuse, Go get counseling fix your self.

      6th incident – no charge and he’s suing the alleged victim. Could be he was innocent?

      On the other hand, where there is smoke there is fire. I don’t know what to think of all of this. However I do like to see both sides of the story out in the open.

    • FourFeathers

      Truth be told, Kyle Long needs to STFU. Tweets way too much too. Love him as a football player, but…

    • So, his fiancee grabbed his gun – is that worse than Bmarsh’s fiancee shanking him? I’m pretty sure Bmarsh wasn’t shanked for observing her necklace didn’t go with those shoes.

      The domestic violence call for his fiance the 2nd time definitely is a huge red flag – and it stinks of a cover up. The problem? Isn’t McDonald still with his fiance? Obviously she loves the plush love style and is willing to take some abuse for it – or she doesn’t mind getting paid off. Maybe she subscribes to the Henry Hill philo of life ‘everybody takes a beating sometime’. Either way, if she wanted to, she could definitely have taken him to court for it. (Though I know NOW will claim some sort of Stockholm Syndrome, and not that she’s in love or a money grubber).

      The last one on the 17th will get sorted out. He’s counter-suing. Could be that other girl heard of his priors and decided to go for the pocket. He video taped it, so it should be pretty cut and dry.

      Like I said, I’m not condoning any of it, but I don’t think a person should lose his/her job unless they go to jail and can’t work.

      If the law convicts him, and he goes to prison, so be it.

      I’m not going to lose any sweat over it either way.

  • Tim Wallace

    I appreciate your column. I think you ask the right questions. In light of the views you expressed, would you be willing to unblock me on twitter? I promise to keep it to football in the future. @logicforgood

    • GPLDAN

      Why did he block you to begin with? (The gosssssip, it so juicy my precious.)

      • Can’t one block a block, like some sort of twitter judo?

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          i think you can but in order to do so you have to perform the crane kick while tweeting ala karate kid.

          • BearDown100393

            Sweep the leg.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            that’s an illegal move. it would be like beating an unsuspecting spouse.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Man card revoked!

      Begging to get unblocked on a Twitter account ? Tell me you’re joking.

  • If Henry Fleming from the Red Badge of Courage would’ve been caught right after fleeing, he would’ve been shot for desertion.
    Sometimes, people can change, and sometimes change doesn’t appear in an epiphany but through a series of critical experiences, self-reflection and maturity (esp if escaping ghosts).

    Ray McDonald is likely on his last chance, and he realizes it. The Bears “risk” very little. He’s on a one year contract. He fucks up, he gets dumped. Quite simple.

    Didn’t even cost us two 3rds and a boatload of mula like with Marshall.

    Not everyone can change their lives like Bmarsh, but wouldn’t a structure of ppl he trusts (Fangio) help McDonald to see the error of his ways?

    I don’t see this as “rewarding misconduct” (like bailing out banks for their blatant greed and corruption), I see this as the last final chance of redemption for a troubled player.

    If not, then maybe we can revert to the puritanical practice of branding ppl with “A’ for adultery, or abuser (alleged), or “M” for masturbator…

    • Stephen Crane FTW.

    • SC Dave

      Just do it in scarlet.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Is he getting or has he received treatment for his obvious alcohol problem? Alcohol seems to be at the center of all these issues. If he is seeking treatment for this issue then there’s a chance that this tomfoolery is behind him. Hard to think he’ll change at 30 years old, but there’s a chance.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I stopped at 36, but when you’re a real @$% idiot, it takes a while for your brain to accept that you are indeed pathetic. My hopes are not high for this dude.

      (a tear wells on reminiscence of a certain beastly Bear…)

      #ForgettingBrandonMarshall

  • SC Dave

    Good column, Jeff.

  • Here’s the Fox presser about McDonald and practically everything else Bears related.

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Fox-weighs-in-on-McDonald-signing/34126a01-6717-492f-ac1f-10d5620222ed

  • I think the Bears are on a 2 year plan. They’re going to throw whatever they can this year – attack the defense with numbers and see if something will stick.
    Next year will be a bit more surgical after weeding out the hacks and crafting the scheme to fit the players better.
    Plus, Cutler’s cap hit is less after next year two.
    This doesn’t mean they won’t look for another QB option though in the meanwhile.
    Fox is an old school guy. I doubt he has issue with sitting a qb for a yr or two.

  • Johnnywad

    Can we stop propagating the notion that it’s sort of “OK” to hit women if you happen to play in the NFL? It’s not. The idea that they are more prone to domestic violence simply because their occupation is violent is baseless. Its the fact that they’re assholes that contributes to it.

    I work in the trades. Every day I employ drywallers, concrete guys, roofers, etc. There are bad guys in every bunch. If they get into trouble with the law, and miss a few days of work over it, they get fired. It happens all the time.

    These players were born special with innumerable physical gifts. They’ve been treated as such for most of their lives, so far as to make them some of the wealthiest people in the country. That treatment needs to cease the moment they lay their hands on a woman or child. This is not difficult.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Wealthy is the wrong notion.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Is there a time when it is okay to hit a woman? It’s a question that never gets talked about. In the case of self defense, for example.

      • Johnnywad

        Of course Irish. In true self defense, sure.

        • Irish Sweetness

          See? You never hear that. It’s always “you never hit a woman!”. Even when she’s trying to claw your eyes out like she’s on PCP?

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Lots of times. Hitting a woman isn’t different than hitting anybody. Why would it be ?

        Domestic abuse on the other hand is a hugely different thing. Every aspect of it: male against female, female against male, male against male, female against female, male or female against children.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Especially in this day and age of gender equality, why do women get special treatment in this issue?

        • BillW

          I think it’s just a lazy way of saying “pick on someone your own size”. Generally speaking men are larger and stronger than women.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Sexist bastard! LOL!

          • BillW

            I’m just an old fashioned kind of guy. I still open doors and let women off elevators first (unless doing so causes congestion).

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            of course you hold the door for women and let them off elevators first – better chance of checking out their asses, and still look like a gentleman.

          • Irish Sweetness

            It’s nice to be nice. But I reserve the right to close the door on her head if I feel my life is in jeopardy.

    • BearDown100393

      Until being a “good locker type of guy” includes a player’s conduct off the field, nothing will change. Winning games is important. That is the business of the sport. But not at the expense of being a member in good standing with society. And that goes toward protecting the NFL brand as “America’s Sport”.

  • GPLDAN

    Tillman and Briggs rank in the mid-80s

    http://www.nfl.com/freeagency#tab=top101

    Briggs visited the Niners on March 23rd. From Trestman’s Bears to these Niners? He’s on a disaster tour.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Gotta keep an eye on the bbq joint he has perhaps?

    • BearDown100393

      Wasn’t aware the 49ers also lost their cook.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    SMH…Randy Gregory fails combine drug test. He’s from Fishers, IN, one of the nicest city and schools in IN. Fails to academically qualify to get into Purdue and only then starts using because of anxiety? These “tell-all” stories that people do feel cheesy and always makes one think that there’s more to it and it draws more attention to what they are really up to. Well better to know now than too late!

  • BillW

    Sorry I haven’t read any comments yet – I will later today. Just want to say one thing:
    I hate that we even have to have this conversation. Which to me is reason enough to be against the McDonald signing. Fans get all high and mighty about other teams’ problem players – but then all of a sudden say “wait – who are we to judge” when it’s their own. The hypocrisy to me is laughable.

    It’s simple – you don’t sign players like this. And when you find out one of your own has a similar situation, you cut him. You’ll find no debate or hypocrisy from me on this issue. Peterson is a child beater. Ray Rice is a woman beater. McDonald at best makes really bad decisions and keeps really bad company – willingly.

    I just don’t understand Pace taking this risk now when the Bears are still so far away from SB contention.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      If the current DC wasn’t from the 49ers, McDonald would not be here. That’s a lot of clout he has already on this team and I have a feeling that he will probably succeed Fox in a few years…..only if the McDonald signing does not result in a disaster. Or the D itself in general

      • BillW

        Very true. I don’t know how to think about that though. I know Fangio is highly regarded. And believe me, I will continue to trust Pace and Fox and George through the entire process – over several years. This is an isolated instance where I personally wish they hadn’t created this issue.

        And of course in the scheme of things, my opinion isn’t worth the pixels that comprise it.

        • John Doe

          This is not about winning SB. This is about putting a competitive team on the field.

          Bears had a nobody at 5-tech. And one of the best 5-techs in the game was available. And that player had worked with Bears DC for the past 4 years. And that player did not have a single official charge filed against him.

          What is so troubling? What is this huge risk that Pace is taking?

          • BillW

            Reputational risk with the fans. Setting a precedent. SAYING character counts. And then making an exception when one of the best 5-techs in the game becomes available.

            Will there be more exceptions? Is this an indication that management is essentially lying to the fans? Saying what they perceive to be the right thing but doing something else?

            No reason to think any of that based on this one signing. But that’s what I mean by risk.

          • John Doe

            When Pace said character I am pretty sure he meant it in reference to football on the field and team in general and not how moral or ethical a player is in their private life.

            Any player on the Bears team could be doing some real ass-holy things in their private life..there is no way to vouch for anyone’s character.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Or Holy Ass things, as the case may be.

          • Bender McLugh

            screw the fans!

            “give us hell Quimby!”

          • GPLDAN

            What is so troubling? What is this huge risk that Pace is taking?

            McDonald, once a Bear, goes to a club and heads home with some hotties. Cops come, rape is alleged, bruises are apparent and he is taken into custody.

            The press will crucify Pace. I wouldn’t be shocked to see Bear old timers like Ditka pipe up and say that a Ray McDonald would never have been a Bear in his day.

            Shit like that. That is the risk.

            Oh and by the fucking way – when the Bears did the announcement they broke their press conference protocol that they ALWAYS had. They DIDN’T call all the outlets, they hand selected 7 reporters – all men – from selected outlets and just had the press conference with them and no hardball questions were asked.

            So there you go. You want to win? You got it. Bears are now going to bring in the thugs and pimps and wall of the press so they don’t get stung on the front end while doing it. But you, as a fan? Why the fuck should you care?

            All you care about is that team kicks ass on Sunday? RIght? Right?

          • BillW

            Said much better than I could. Whereas I use a corporate phrase like “reputational risk” GPLDAN paints it out quite well.

          • John Doe

            But thugs and pimps could already be on the roster. Their shit is just not out in the open yet..

          • BillW

            True – but it’s not the teams responsibility to investigate. However, once it’s out in the open, they have to react somehow. Keeping the player (or signing him) is a reaction. The team has to consider the possible distraction it can cause in the media / fan base – as GPLDAN points out.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Lt. Dan. On the case.

    • BerwynBomber

      Couldn’t agree more with your first paragraph. The hypocritical fans of Brandon Marshall were like this and for that reason alone I’m glad he is gone. (Sorry, the BPD diagnosis is a far, far cry from a legit insanity defense, IMV.)

      But I disagree with your second graph. No matter who it is — Marshall, McDonald, Peterson, Rice, Hardy, etc. — if the man is not serving time then he should be allowed pursue his profession and if teams are interested in his service then you hold your nose and sign him. As a fan we should be intelligent and smart enough to separate the player from the person. Hate to use the old “these ain’t choirboys” line, but I assume most teams in the league are filled with a few scum.

      Agree about your last point. I assume this was a Fangio suggestion, at least initially. Maybe because of BM’s popularity and the fact that he avoided any domestic incidents during his stay in Chicago made Bears management more open to the idea of signing McDonald.

      • BillW

        Re my second paragraph. That of course is only my personal opinion. “If I ran an NFL franchise…” kind of thing. I simply wouldn’t sign him.

        But I do understand the reasoning behind the move despite what appears to be a contradiction by Bear management. And while I don’t support it, I will still be a Bear fan. I probably however make sure I know who it was making the sack before I cheer for it.

        Everyone has a line I assume despite the “these aren’t choirboys” truism. Domestic violence is mine, and then I think to myself “well, what about DUIs?” Drunk driving is potentially more lethal. It is very confusing and as I led off my post – I hate we even have to have this conversation.

        • BerwynBomber

          Understood. And I respect your “line” so long as it is applied without hypocrisy, which seems to be the case.

          We just disagree there. But I think we agree that just because someone now wears a Bears uni doesn’t transform him into a wonderful guy with a dismissible past — whether it be McDonald or (was the case often on these threads) Marshall or anyone else.

          Don’t know what my own “line” would be but I will toss more slack to a first time offender than a repeat one.

          • BillW

            Understood as well. Reasonable (and moral) people will not agree on where the line should be. Grey areas indeed. At least 50 Shades of Grey (as it were).

          • Johnnywad

            Well said BB. I disagree with you here but I do understand your angle on it.

          • BerwynBomber

            Thanks, Jwad. I saw your earlier comment and thought the same, and yes, I remember you and I went a few rounds on this topic after the AP story broke.

            Btw, much as I defended the latter’s right to play, the victim card he and his agent are now playing against the Vikings is beyond stupid.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Are we comparing Brandon with these thugs? If there is anyone violent in BM’s house, methinks it’s Mrs. BM. It’s in those eyes.

    • BearDown100393

      “McDonald at best makes really bad decisions and keeps really bad company – willingly.”
      Agreed.
      Alcoholism might also be involved.
      But apparently George McCaskey is a sobriety expert also.

    • Irish Sweetness

      If he signs McDonald and BM is still in house, then I get it. But you fire one guy for being a distraction and then hire Donkey Kong.

  • Scharfinator

    So the NFL has changed the rules thanks to Belicheck’s ineligible line up play. Belicheck is a hell of a gamer, digging into the rules and finding ways to confuse the shit out of people – to the point where the league has to respond to him.

    • BillW

      I saw that too and I applaud him. A very clever coach. No greater compliment than to have a rule passed to specifically counter-act a tactic that he ALONE came up with. A tactic available to every team every year and he was the only one smart enough to realize it.

      But I wonder what the deflate-gate investigation will reveal. I suspect it will come out during the Final Four weekend.

      • Scharfinator

        Yeah, I would agree – that would be the time to release it. I also figure that his gamesmanship also leads to his thought he can get away with actually cheating. Probably a combination of arrogance and intellect.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I the NFL everything is gamesmanship. Nobody’s cheating in the NFL because everybody’s cheating.

          The NFL is based on cheating. It’s in the DNA of the sport.

    • BerwynBomber

      Once Beli retires the NFL should immediately pay him to edit the rule book. If any guy would know the angles and which rules had been left open to interpretation it would be he.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      He owns those poor motherfuckers. They all hate him.

      I’m a fan of his.

      That being said… there are a lot of confusion about that ship. McDaniels is the biggest offensive influence. Belichick’s only involved in strategic decisions.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    I might as well bring it up, but why the hell don’t we try to sign Will Hill? I mean damn, he got popped for Adderall (it’s not like he beat up a pregnant lady) and if we are taking chances on character why not go all in? Hill is a RFA, but the Ravens tagged him at the lowest level (original round tender) which means we can sign him without losing a draft pick because he was undrafted. The Ravens will have the chance to match, but would they? Just give him a deal laced with per game roster bonuses and playing time incentives, low base salaries and a modest signing bonus like the Cowboys did with Hardy. If he messes up, you can cut him anytime with very little cap ramifications, if he’s suspended you don’t have to pay him the roster bonuses either. He’s a young enough safety (just turned 25) to grow with this group and solidify the back end of the D.

    • GPLDAN

      Rae Carruth gets out of prison in 2018. Maybe he still has got it.. Bears should check it out….

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Ricky Williams is the more apropos joke to make. You can’t compare murderers to Adderall.

      • BillW

        Don’t forget Art Schielster. I’ll “bet” he can still hand off 65% of the times. Just need to get a work-release deal in place.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        How is that even possible?!?

    • BearDown100393

      OJ deserves a shot at running the team if Pace doesn’t work out.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Adderall? At least he’d be really focused.

  • GPLDAN
    • BillW

      He lost me with the headline (which admittedly he perhaps didn’t write himself.)

      QB competition? In training camp? With Clausen? Please. “Jay is our QB”.

      Now he could conceivably be benched I suppose at some point, but I sure hope Fox isn’t going into camp with any thought of possibly having anyone but Jay as the starter.

      • Big Mike

        I like Michael Wright. He’s a good analyst, doesn’t jump the gun to get headlines. Not sure why people think he has a problem with the Bears. There’s not a whole lot of negative things you can say about the Bears that haven’t been said here.

        • BillW

          I don’t know if he has a problem with the Bears. I have a problem with his headline. I didn’t bother reading the article.

          I know (or assume) that writers don’t write their own headlines. I suspect that from articles I’ve clicked on (not just sports) only to find out the headline was misleading (often intentionally to get a page click).

          I don’t know if they track how long a person stayed on the page (again, I assume they do. I’d want to know that if I paid for advertising.) So I clicked off it right after I read the headline.

          • Big Mike

            Chicago Bears coach John Fox called it “all an open competition” Wednesday at the NFL owners meetings when asked whether there was any scenario in which he envisioned Jay Cutler competing for the starting job at quarterback.

          • BillW

            So “The Pickle” will be sharing first team reps all camp long with Jay until Fox decides who the winner of the open competition is?

            I believe that Fox said it. But if true the press will have a field day all camp long. If NOT true the press will have a field day holding Fox to his word.

            Just seems strange.

          • Big Mike

            The press will ride this story to death. The already have in my book. The only news from a football standpoint is Fox is going to give Clausen (oh I get it.. Pickle) some more reps.

          • Irish Sweetness

            And so they should. Fox/Pace say “Jay’s our guy” then say the position is open ? Why do you pay a guy 16M a year and then have a competition?

          • Big Mike

            I don’t think they would have paid him $16 million after last season. But they didn’t have a choice.

            I think the news here Is he has to hang on to the job

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            I don’t think that was the message of Fox’s remarks yesterday. Fox clearly states he wants to fix Cutler’s confidence and the way to do so is by running the ball more like Dallas did with Romo last year. He mentions it being an open competition in a sense that if Cutler comes out and doesn’t care or he sucks major balls he will get the hook but the goal is to prepare Cutler to earn the job.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Picture Bill Walsh in Montana’s ear, “We’re gonna have you throw the ball less, Joe. There’s greatness in you, and we’re going to find it by running the ball.”

          • somebody else (I think Moon Mullin?) wrote this same article yesterday. Nothing to see here.

        • GPLDAN

          All of his articles are about Cutler and how the Bears are stuck with him, and that nobody likes Jay. It’s such a trend that you must consider it muck raking just a tad.

          • Big Mike

            I hadn’t noticed that trend. I try to ignore the Cutler jibber jabber, except here. The discussion outside gets insane.

    • BerwynBomber

      Have to admit, the happy pessimist in me would be amused if the Bears don’t draft a QB this year.

  • John Doe

    Bears drafted KaDeem Carey who was accused of hitting his pregnant ex-girlfriend in December 2012. That was Ray Rice territory.

    If Bears had no problem drafting Carey and many fans did not either, then I see no reason why Bears fans should have problem with McDonald signing.

    I didn’t see the same level of outrage with Carey. I have a problem with selective outrage.

    • BillW

      I honestly didn’t know that about Carey. Slipped under my attention span. Thanks for pointing that out.

    • I was concerned about that when they drafted him, but the situations are a bit different, IMO. For one thing, Carey had a clean off-field record for about 15 months before being drafted. Second, he had admitted the mistakes publicly and talked about learning from them and growing as a man.
      Here’s my main thing: I’m not opposed to players getting 2nd chances. I think that’s a great thing, actually. I just wish it would be done in a manner that required public apology, activism in charities to raise awareness and prevent others from making your mistakes, and (most importantly) counseling to learn about what you did, why you did it, why it was wrong, and how to avoid doing it again.
      This is more or less the approach that was taken with Michael Vick, and I think that was great.

      • John Doe

        But I am not sure McDonald did those things. Where are the charges?

        At least Kadeem Carey went to court. There was some official action in the case.

        What if someone casually accuses Kyle Fuller of murder? Does that mean he has to start doing charities and stuff just because of that accusation?

        • Failure to press charges is extremely common in domestic abuse cases. Often only possible when the person abused cooperates, and they often refuse to, for a variety of reasons.

          • John Doe

            Whatever the reason, if the charges are not pressed you cannot treat the person as guilty.

            Hardy and Adrian Peterson cases are so different than McDonald case.

          • treating them as guilty is sending them to jail. Requiring them to undergo counseling as a condition of their employment is not even close to considering them guilty.

          • Bender McLugh

            you didn’t answer the question though……should accused persons be sent to therapy simply for that accusation?

          • I would say yes, when it comes to domestic violence. Research suggests only 2-6% of domestic violence accusations are unfounded (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/mar/13/false-allegations-rape-domestic-violence-rare ).

            So I’d say it’s worth having people undergo treatment, even if they happen to be in that minority. What’s the harm? Worst that happens is they become better educated on a problem many (including myself) are sadly ignorant of.

          • I think Sarah Spain’s piece yesterday was fabulous and explains it better than I am. I recommend reading it for anybody interested. http://espn.go.com/espnw/news-commentary/article/12555187/talk-straight-fans

            This excerpt is the key part, IMO:

            “And don’t forget this important fact: The best way to deal with players who have been accused and/or convicted of domestic violence isn’t always a “one and done” approach. When I spoke to experts for a rehabilitative justice piece in the past, they all agreed that a zero tolerance policy isn’t always the best approach. That can discourage victims from reporting crimes because they don’t want to affect their partner’s livelihood and may want to work on repairing their relationship. Kicking guilty domestic violence perpetrators to the curb is actually a mistake, they all said.

            The goal isn’t merely to punish the crime, but also to prevent it from occurring again. There will be no change until the people in charge put the well-being of their players first, even if that’s for purely selfish reasons. If that player means that much to you on Sundays, then make sure he can stay out of trouble and stay on the field. If the league wants to allow for the possibility of second chances, they need to do so with their eyes open and their approach to the issue clearly and carefully explained to players and fans.

            That’s a critical component for the NFL — talk to fans like intelligent, reasonable people. Teams need to speak openly about how they plan to rehabilitate a player who faces serious charges. They need to explain why they think a second chance is deserved and how they plan to provide them with an environment that will help prevent recidivism. It’s not just about pouring money into domestic violence PSAs or creating an advisory panel to discuss policy. If the NFL wants to get this right, a player who has faced accusations of domestic violence or assault should be required to agree to treatment in order to continue with his team or sign on with a new one.

            Batterer’s intervention counseling and a peer-to-peer mentor relationship with a teammate or staff member would be a good place to start. If said player is one of the tiny percent of people who has been falsely accused, he’ll get valuable treatment and education he can spread to his teammates and family.”

          • BearDown100393

            It is not the responsible for NFL teams to rehabilitate its criminals. That is the job of the penal system. If a player really requires 24/7 monitoring by a NFL team in order to avoid breaking the law, then perhaps that player has not earned the privilege of being its member. Spain might as well call for incarcerating these individuals Monday thru Saturday only to be released on Game Day. Furthermore, the NFL has proven not capable of entertaining an intelligent dialog with its customer base. Why? Because the NFL is run by a clueless idiot (Roger Goodell) representing the interests of a collective ownership group quite capable in its own right to engage in continuous criminal behavior. The NFL brand is tainted. And the stain grows worse.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Sarah Spain? Didn’t she used to write about panties and sleepovers on Chicago Now ?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Nah, her name had Milk in it…and then the Blog descended on her comments section.
            Good times.

          • ahhhh, yeah, in the age of the gnomes…
            maybe we should all pay her a visit, en masse, for nostolgia sake

          • Irish Sweetness

            Oh yeah, that was good!

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I have no problem with the McDonald signing. To the contrary I wanted the Bears to sign him and I would have wanted Hardy also in not for the scheme change and high price.

      My problem with it is the crappy, sloppy, pathetic anti Marshall campaign and all the bullshit about Fox running a straight ship with high character players.

      I don’t like when these bitches try to sell me manure.

      • I never really heard them say anything about moral character specifically.
        Didn’t he just say “character” or “football character”?
        Plus, I think Fox has actually bent over backwards to avoid talking shit about Bmarsh. In his presser the journalists were trying to bait him with Bmarsh questions, like why is he no longer around, and how does that make the Bears a better team.

        He didn’t even flinch. Didn’t niblle on the “locker room” cancer angle. he just responded vaguely about it being good for both parties, and the rest is confidential and done.

        I think everyone understands Bmarsh was just a locker room headache, and it doesn’t need to be stated (and I was FOR keeping him, but admitted, I was not in that locker room).

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I bet Kromer called Cutler the best QB in the world sometime last year.

          • They’re all liars, but the thing is that they try not to be hypocrites. I think that’s when the upper management loses the locker room.

            Every player knows bullshitting is the way of life in the NFL, esp when a mic is present.

            But hypocrisy still is frowned upon. That’s why the 9ers HAD to dump McDonald.

            Harbs was adamant about booting women abusers, so he had to cut bait (though Aldon still stuck around).

            Fox and Pace have never drawn that line in the sand. Just talked about ‘character’ in general, but that could mean a lot of things.

            It could just mean they want players who are passionate about football and are locker room leaders.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Brandon Marshall is an elite WR, passionate about football and a locker room leader.

          • He does love football, however, he seems to love promoting his cause and his show MORE than football at this stage in his life.
            He didn’t want to give up doing the show. he has said on more than one occasion that football is merely a platform for his charity, it’s a means to an end.
            And I don’t know if he is a leader, or the leader a team wants. Lots of stories from former players who said they rolled their eyes when Bmarsh would begin talking in the locker room. That’s not a leader, but that guy at work who no one wants to hang with after hours.

            Like I said, I love Bmarsh, but his priorities and and apparently, his locker room demeanor are the reasons he was traded for essentially a fifth.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            That punk… he’s so awful for promoting his charity causes.

            Here’s some newsflash… that’s the way he fight his demons.

            He’s more determined than anybody to win a Super Bowl… it would help his off field efforts a lot.

          • You have obviously never been around a football coach.
            They would make you slap your mother if it meant making the team better.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Good for them. But don’t sell me bullshit.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Pregnant. Next level. My kind of homey.

      BAM! KWOK! … huh? You’re knocked up? Yeah whatever … BOOM! THWAK! You’re knocked up now bitch ….DONNGG!

  • BillW

    Re Jeff’s latest tweet – How does Bernstein survive this?

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      What a moron.

      • GPLDAN

        And she’s African-American. So Bernstein demeans her as a woman with a great rack (he’s right about that) but then you get the racist angle in there as a kicker.

        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_Ruqm8WwAATFD-.jpg:large

        • I always find it very ironic that a Jew, or someone from that background (I’m assuming here from his name) can be racist. (I think this is just the case of him being sophomoric really).
          Like the clipper owner or Foreskins owner. You’d think if any people would be a little sensitive to being stereotyped and persecuted, it would be them.

          Then again, genocide is ok in the old testament, so there is that.

          • NewBearInTown

            Some of the most anti-semetic folks I’ve ever met are black. Some of the most racist are Jews.
            I think a lot of people who are oppressed minorities think in terms of “us and them.” They just have a different opinion about which group are the bad guys.

          • I agree. I have jewish friends (and whatever MB is. Love you MB, you absentee bastard!), and they’re all pretty cool for the most part (if not, I suppose we wouldn’t be friends).

            I was just thinking in terms of sports since this is a sport’s blog and we’re talking about owners and GMs cuz it’s the off-season.

            Over here in Cali one of the biggest anti-gay marriage demographics were in fact af-americans, which caught some by surprise since many viewed it at a civil rights issue.

            The whole US-Them dichotomy eloquently explained by another Jew – Freud (who was so Jew he was a rampant atheist! lol)

            I actually visited the Skirball over here when they exhibited a Frued perspective. Was curious how they would present him. Fun times.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’m never surprised. White comedians have to walk around on eggshells a lot, but black comics can literally say terrible things about white people that the white comic would get burned for. And I just generalized there based on race which makes me a racist. I love it. Embrace Race!

            But like NBIT says below, some folk are just part of the ‘them and us’ brigade. It’s not a color demographic, it’s an educational one.

        • Shady

          I don’t even think he’s that good looking, especially when she opens her mouth. Kelly Crull on the other hand… Yes please.

          I agree with Spiegs that she is uncomfortable to watch/ listen to. Something about her is just off. I’m not a fan.

          • I’m sure Irish will protest.
            So Bernstein is right. BOOBS.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Who’s the black chick on First Take (?) on ESPN? Sits in between Stephen A .White and the other douchebag ….

            I tried googling her but can’t get no love.

          • BillW

            See, that’s the point. I never heard her or of her or even saw a picture of her until I googled the story. But you say “she’s not even that good looking” as if it would be somehow less objectionable if she was?

            HOWEVER – in defense; that’s what the media gets for seemingly hiring women based on only on their appearance.

            Jen Lada seems like a good reporter. Would she have been hired if she wasn’t attractive too? Are there any female media types that aren’t?

            This goes all the way back to Phyllis George and Jayne Kennedy.

            One female reporter I respect that I believe makes it on pure ability is Peggy Kucinski (sp?)

            And yet in saying that, I somehow feel I’ve insulted her by implying she’s not attractive.

            We have gone nowhere in society in my lifetime on this issue. Nowhere.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agreed. I like Lada and Kuzinski too. Also, on a national level a couple of them stuck in that dire sideline reporter job — namely, Tafoya and Salter — seem super competent/excellent. Also, if you follow the NBA, Doris Burke knows her shit and can articulate it, but she is also a play-by-play/studio host person.

            But yeah, women in broadcast journalism is still largely a beauty contest.

          • BillW

            I guess this is part of my crabby old man coming through in a different way. But I really find it troubling that so many women not only accept that reality but revel in it without much if any objection from other women.

            I sincerely believe that women are more confused than ever, I accepted women’s lib in the 70s as logical and morally correct, and now we have women in the owrkplace showing cleavage and wearing yoga pants and trying their best to be attractive – and then criticize men for being attracted to them.

            If Ms. “Boobs” wants to be taken seriously, then don’t wear tight dresses like the picture that was posted.

            Time to shut up because I sound like I’m defending Bernstein.

          • BillW

            In fact, as I think this through, knowing Bernstein that may have been the exact point he was trying to make. That all “he” (meaning people in general) are likely to see with her is her boobs. And that in effect is HER fault, not ours.

            Yeah, he’s a prick in how he points things out. And he’s prick for falling for the trwitter trap (thinking his comments are to Speigel only?) But I doubt he really is drooling over her looks. He’s may have been sarcastically criticizing her – saying he realizes that overall we’re not supposed to notice she is no good as a sportscaster and yet has the job for purely sexual reasons.

          • Feminism is split on “sexuality”, Bill.
            Some view it as a source of empowerment – heck, there’s some female porn producers over here in Dirk Diggler land who claim they’re feminist because THEY have broken the “glass ceiling” (golden showered floor?) to become directors and not merely porn stars.

            That’s what many feminist don’t understand. There’s ALL types of feminism, it isn’t just one monolithic belief sytsem.

            Some “feminist” are quite conservative and argue that they should indeed stay home and raise children because in the end, that’s what TRULY liberates women, or makes them happy.

            Then you got your “3rd world” feminist who argue that no white girl in the U.S. can ever truly be a feminist, that they’re merely part of the global powerstructure oppressing women in shitty countries.

            however, as my acting teacher once quipped to me, “Women…turn them upside down, they’re all the same..”

          • GPLDAN

            Oh Oh! I SOOOOOOO want to hear Butch in acting school stories.

          • That’s the delux Wheaties package

          • I feel bad for Meteorolgists who don’t have racks. They were driven out of jobs by boobage.
            Only local guy in L.A. who is a meteorologist/weatherman is Dallas Raines (naturally).
            I think he’s a surfer, so he always gives the low down on the tides and surf too.

            Other than that, it’s mostly a bunch of bimbos with boobs (NTTAWWT)

          • BearDown100393

            Tom Skilling’s rack is impressive.

          • BillW

            Chicago generally is more serious about weather – Skilling, Taft, Baskerville. But then there is Cheryl Scott.

          • GPLDAN

            Bill,

            Jayne Kennedy posed for Playboy back in the Jimmy the Greek days. So come on. That one gets a pass.

          • BillW

            She also read the scores backwards, thinking you’re supposed to list the winning team last. At least Phyllis George understood football (die hard Cowboy fan besides being a Miss America.)

          • willbest

            I thought Shady’s point was if you are going to get yourself into trouble with teenage boy comments it should at least be over somebody exceptionally hot.

            And nobody on TV is unattractive. They don’t let you on if you are unless you started out someplace else and got yourself a big name and following first.

          • BillW

            I get his point. There is a bit of that thinking everywhere. Kennedy gets a pass in part because it was Marilyn Monroe. Clinton was ridiculed in part because it was Paula Jones and Monica. There is sexism within sexism it seems.

            There are certainly more unattractive male media personalities than female. Look at Sam Rosen for example. At least it seems that way – though that may be unintentional sexism right there.

          • willbest

            Well there is sexism within sexism only because sexism’s definition has been expanded to the point where it is meaningless.

            Also, physical beauty is a secondary male attractiveness characteristic, obviously you can’t be disfigured, but confidence which is expressed more through posturing, mannerisms, and voice tone is more important for men than they are for women.

          • BerwynBomber

            Different era of journalism in Kennedy’s time. That all changed in the 80s with Gary Hart’s challenge to journalists to follow him.

            Clinton was also born into poverty, which might explain his tastes in mistresses compared to Kennedy’s. To Clinton, a woman like Jennifer Flowers probably seemed like Marilyn Monroe.

          • Irish Sweetness

            JFK banged everyone, and so did Jackie. She never got called a whore though.

          • BearDown100393

            “Camelot”

          • Irish Sweetness

            Anyone see ’20 feet from stardom’ ? Won an oscar last year, documentary on the small yet hugely productive cadre of black women who sing backing vocals, yet don’t ‘make it’. People listen to Lisa Fischer or Merry Clayton and wonder how they don’t become household names when they can sing the pants off the so-called Divas. Merry Clayton’s label threw the kitchen sink at her in promotional terms … but if you don’t look like a playboy bunny ….

            Who’s Merry Clayton? She did this.

        • Cormonster

          Don Imus got into a little trouble for the nappy headed hoe comments.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Hullo bebbe …..

    • BerwynBomber

      Spiegel doesn’t come off much better. But do they fire people over sexist remarks? Saying something derogatory about a black person or a jew will invite the boot, but those seem the only one-and-done deals in regard to offending a race/creed/ethnicity/sex.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Lately women’s issues have been lumped in with the gay/black/jew trifecta of career suicide.

        • Cormonster

          When I was in college in the People’s Republic of Madison everyone was part of a minority / victim group that was discriminated against except for white heterosexual males under the age of sixty (ageism) with no handicaps.

      • willbest
        • BerwynBomber

          Yeah, but his foot-in-mouth moment was sexist not racist.

    • Didn’t even know who aiyana cristal was. Is she even any good, or is it indeed BOOBs?

      #weatherGirlBoobs

    • willbest

      He will be fine as long as he doesn’t apologize. If they get their pound of flesh they will go after the whole carcass.

      • BerwynBomber

        He already did. So did Spiegel. Then Bernstein returned to his weekly dick suckage of Theo Espstein and that was that.

        • willbest

          There will be a round two then.

  • BerwynBomber

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog So many people have told me “David Haugh is the only person who blocks me on Twitter.” Reason is simple. He’s flimsy. http://dabearsblog.com/2014/why-tribune-columnist-david-haugh-doesnt-care-for-dabearsblog-and-why-the-feeling-is-mutual …”
    Btw, missed this column the first time around. Excellent work, Blogfather.
    Never understood Haugh’s popularity. Nor liked his work. Never impressed me as being worthy of his professional status.

    • GPLDAN

      Haugh is probably the least liked local columnist on this blog.

      The most liked is Biggsy. Because Biggsy rules.

      • BerwynBomber

        The few times I caught Haugh on that 5:30 CLTV roundtable show (back in the day) he seemed blatantly “ambitious” … I suppose Blogfather’s personal story reflects that of Haugh. You can get away with that me-me-me-me career stuff, IMO, if you have major talent/chops but Haugh comes off as a moron more half the time. I never understood what the Trib sees in him.

      • Dan Durkin for me. Adam Jahns is pretty good too. Also like Biggs and the ESPN duo (Dickerson and Wright).

        • Scott W.

          I miss Seifert. He was solid.

          • he does some really interesting national stuff now. I really like his breakdown of how frequently different ref crews call penalties. The discrepancy there is pretty startling.

  • Jack Lacan

    David Haugh is a poster boy for Ayn Rand…John Kass is not even close to Mike Royko…
    The Tribune is Koch Brothers Heaven…
    Chicago “journalism” is a provincial joke…
    Kap and Huff indeed…

    • BearDown100393

      All of the above is infinitely better than Jay Mariotti. Addition by subtraction when that creature lurched out of town.

      • BerwynBomber

        Albeit a shithead, Mariotti could write. Haugh’s writing is pedestrian.

        • GPLDAN

          He could write or he could shit stir and be controversial?

          I mean, we’re not talking Mitch Albom here. Mariotti’s writing was mostly about saying stupid shit.

          • BerwynBomber

            He definitely trolled, but yeah, I thought he could turn a unique phrase as sports columnists go. Plus, he was prolific. He was a cranking out five a week, IIRC.

            I didn’t like Mariotti but I could see what the Sun-Times saw in him. With Haugh I never understood his ascension beyond an entry-level position.

          • GPLDAN

            the Mariotti article I recall the most was the famous Scottie Pippen “migraine”. He couldn’t go against the Pistons in Game 7. The rumors flew that Michael thought Pippen was soft. Weak.

            Mariotti went on a tear. INSISTED day in and day out for two weeks that the Bulls MUST FIRE Scottie and that he was the worst person ever in Chicago sports history. It was vitriolic. It was stupid. And, of course, it was very very wrong.

            that summed up Jay Mariotti to me. For all his douchebaggery and girlfriend beating, he wasn’t half the scum Bob Greene was. Bob Greene is a whole other league of fucking creep. Year after year of sanctimonious drivel while behind the scenes he was a pedo.

          • BerwynBomber

            The other thing Mariotti was stupidly reverential about was the Worm. I remember him never letting up on the Rodman-must-go campaign. Though I do think w/out Jordan on the team (and Big Chief Triangle on the sideline), the Worm could have been a distraction that made any BM stuff from last year seem like child’s play.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Prolific Troll”. Yep, that describes Mariotti.

  • willbest

    Modern NFL coaching decisions seem to be based on the need for the coach to improve. If GM/Ownership determines that the coach has achieved his ceiling and that is the AFCC its game over.

    Also, if I am Luck and I want some ball buster 7-year 170 mil, 80 mil guaranteed contract, it would be nice to have hoisted the Lombardi trophy once before stepping into the negotiating room.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Lovie is banking on this need to improve. That’s why he only won 2 times in his first season.

      • GPLDAN

        One way to show continuous improvement is to start out really really shitty.

        Lovie is nothing if not a kind of organizational bullshit savant.

    • GPLDAN

      It’s become a GM’s league. The HC is now really a cog to implement a school of thought around a system favored by the front office.

      Of course I say that like the HC doesn’t matter. When the HC is a tool like Nessman who can’t lead a room full of men, disaster is still within the HC’s reach.

  • GPLDAN

    Great moment in Chicago sports history

    The Mailman doesn’t deliver on Sundays. Malone chokes and MJ does that MJ thing he does like a fucking boss.

    • Waffle

      The late 80’s and 90’s were a magical time in Chicago. I was in 8th grade when they won the first one. Starter Bulls Hats, kids playing pickup basketball games and naming themselves….”i’m pippen, i’m jordan, etc”
      That rallying song playing all the time, the intro to the games, damn why did it have to end.

      • It was like that in L.A. too, though probably not to the extent as Chi.
        That’s why I stopped watching football almost all together in the 90s. I blame it on Jordan and those damn slam dunk contests they showed us in gym class!

        • Johnnywad

          Seemed like he could fly. I couldn’t even bring myself to throw away my Nike shoe boxes. I scoffed at my mother when she proposed I buy a pair of Reeboks for my Junior season of basketball as they were more affordable. I had it bad.

          • Scott W.

            Heh…this comment exchange made me chuckle.
            My idol as a kid was…wait for it…

            Dave Debusschre…

            That’s who I pretended to be in pickup games.

            Yup. Old. Rickety, even.

          • Johnnywad

            Well old Dave and I share an Alma Mater. I looked at his ugly mug nearly every day I was in college as I spent a lot of time in good old Calihan Hall at THE University of Detroit.

          • Scott W.

            Awesome. Your stock value just rose.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I saw Debusshere pitch for the White Sox in 1963 before he commited to hoops.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I used to videotape all of the NBA Finals games and watch them over and over, all the way through college.
        Broke my toe on a door when Jordan got stripped by Nick Anderson en route to the loss to them in the Eastern Conference finals my sophomore year.

        • Coincidence. I just found my Bulls vs Lakers hat circa 91 in a box somewhere in mint condition! I don’t even know if it’s official (it’s like corduroy or something) cuz back then I couldn’t afford shit.
          No wheaties box, but still pretty ssssweet!

      • that 30 for 30 on MJ playing minor league baseball was awesome. It’s on Netflix.

    • BerwynBomber

      The GOAT is still the GOAT in terms of team sports. There’s never been a guy who constantly delivered, even elevated his game on the biggest stage like Jordan. Even recent historically “clutch” guys like Jeter and Brady weren’t as consistent and supreme as Jordan was in such moments. The thing is, to this day, I wonder how much of a “Chicago” icon Jordan truly is simply because he became such a global one.

      And looking back on it, how mythically fitting was that he had to go thru those badass Detroit and Knicks teams to get there? In a lot of ways those conference series were every bit as rewarding as the Finals. They made Jordan who he was.

  • Waffle

    Draft Musings:
    I’m hoping the first couple of teams screw the pooch and take Winston and Mariota off of the board because that means we’ll have a playmaker to select no matter what position we go for.

    Dante Fowler Jr, in theory, would be a sick addition to a D that has Pernell McPhee on the other side. Two fucking enormous rushmen. McPhee at 280 and Fowler at 260. I can’t see him being there at 7 though.

    Leonard Williams is a huge athletic freak that could fall to us if there is a run on QB’s and OLB’s and someone takes a WR. 6’5 305 rush/run stopper that can attack the qb and has attitude.

    Vic Beasley is a little small but is a sick football player. I watched Clemson play a couple of times this year and it was like watching a Tecmo Bowl player when you pick the other teams offensive play.

    Scherff is a plug and play OL that would instantly upgrade the offense.

    Trae Waynes is a baller in the mold of Fuller. A guy who understands how to play football and has the aggressiveness and athleticism to man the corner while two vets man the safety positions. Is TJ done or will he bounce back from a tough injury plagued year?

    Danny Shelton is a huge fucking piece of meat that would take up a lot of real estate in the middle. Too bad we don’t have an Urlacher to run down dudes that are forced to cut it outside……

    • BearDown100393

      If all of the above were on the board and the Bears are on the clock, which player would you draft? I’m simply curious because I don’t follow college football enough to qualify my own pick.

      • Waffle

        I would have to say Dante Fowler Jr because he’s an incredibly physical and gifted football player and not just an athlete. At 6’3 260 he is only going to get better, bigger and stronger with coaching and some professional conditioning/training but already has the aggression, instincts, techniques and tape that would indicate that he could be a starter or in the starting rotation on day one. The NFL does have a tendency to take college stars and humble them though…..

      • I’m really hoping for one of Leonard Williams, Vic Beasley, or Amari Cooper. Those are 3 playmakers who I am confident will also be playmakers in the NFL.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Yahoo has us pass on Gregory at 7, taking Kevin White.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          Agree on Williams, he’d make a great 5 tech DE in this system. He’s the dream pick. However, I just don’t see how he falls to us at 7 unless the draft breaks just right. The wild card is the Titans taking Mariota and the Jets in general. The Jets could take Williams or they could take Gurley/Gordon, Beasley or reach for B. Perriman. This could also be a spot for Landon Collins. I’m not putting anything past the Jets. I’d be happy if the draft broke this way because I don’t think the Jets would take Williams given all the 1st rounders they have already put on that line.

          TB: Winston
          TEN: Mariota
          JAC: Fowler Jr.
          OAK: K. White
          WAS: Cooper
          NYJ: ?

          • Waffle

            I think everyone knows that this league is still about D when it comes down to it. It’s about the trenches and about forcing talented QB’s to make bad and pressured choices.
            At the same time you can never go wrong with OL. I can’t see them taking a WR at 7 though. A WR selection at 7 is the only pick that would be piss me off…besides QB.

      • Bender McLugh
    • I’m not a huge fan of Fowler. I think he’s a good solid all-around player, but not a particularly good pass rusher. The Bears already have 3 OLBs like that (Jones, McPhee, Houston). They need a stud edge rusher if they’re gonna spend a high pick on an edge guy like that. The only one of those I see is Vic Beasley. Otherwise they’re just drafting redundancy.

      • Waffle

        I love Beasley and would be very excited if he came to us.

        • Right now, I hope the pick is one of Cooper, Beasley, or Leonard Williams. Still need to watch film on La’El Collins and (more of) Brandon Scherff though.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I think if Mariota falls to us we have to make hay and screw Chip Kelly for picks.

      • Waffle

        Mariota cannot be a Bear while we sport the two worst defenses in the history of the team.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      The Bears have to select Mariota if he’s there at 7.

      Worst case scenario you trade him to the Eagles at the end of the year for Kiko Alonso & a 1st round pick in 2016.

      • Bender McLugh

        end of the year? nah, trade him right then & there for Kiko & their 1st & 3rd

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Maybe he’s the real deal. It costs much more to jump 15 sponts in the 1st rd of the draft.

          Alonso and a 3rd rounder is pennies.

      • Waffle

        if the Bears pick Mariota It simply means the Bears can’t be honest with themselves why they have been a disgrace the last 2 years…..and I can’t be a fan of that kind of stupidity.
        If we take Mariota and it doesn’t materialize into an immediate trade you’ll never see me again.

        • GPLDAN

          Waffle will carry that Jay flag to the hill and plant it Iwo Jima style, or die trying.

          • Waffle

            haha, no reason to use the full resources of fire dept to put out the fire in the dumpster can when the building behind it is on fire.

        • What if Cutler ends up being a back-up outside of Chicago? Would that mean the ENTIRE NFL conspired against him?
          I seriously think he has a chance of being McNabbed.

          • Waffle

            Jay still has skills. By the time McNabb got McNabbed he was the McNabb we remember and not the bad mofo he used to be.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Meaning ?

  • willbest

    Going to have to disagree with you on the pot thing. Nobody wants to blow a first round draft pick on the next Josh Gordon. And if the guy can’t act like a boy scout from the moment he declares until the ink dries on his contract when there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars on the line he is already showing epically poor judgment.

    • BerwynBomber

      Good points, though I’m assuming part of Blogfather’s point is that Draconian pot suspensions seem outdated.

      • yes, but he’ll start the NFL in the substance abuse program, which means his 1st failed test = a 4 game suspension. That dropped Christian Jones from the middle rounds to UDFA last year.

        Do you want to spend a 1st round pick on a guy who’s 1 mistake away from missing 1/4 of a season? Especially when he has a history of that mistake and just failed a test he knew was coming (when he’ll be getting randomly tested in the NFL)?

        • BerwynBomber

          Oh, I don’t disagree with willbest’s points. (Nor yours.) I just think Blogfather was suggesting something beyond the Gregory case itself.

          • NewBearInTown

            Jeff just wrote the tweet poorly. The team is not antiquated for fearing their first round pick getting suspended, the league is antiquated for suspending him.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agreed.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    BTW, the explosion and fire in Manhattan today was only a couple of blocks from Josey Woods – so here’s hoping the Blogfather and any of the other NYC Bears fans are safe and unaffected.

    • scary stuff. Definitely hope everybody (or at least as many people as possible) is ok.

      • smelled it from my office. went up to the roof and saw the smoke. scary stuff, for sure.

  • NewBearInTown

    So here’s my question on the Bernstein thing. Let’s assume for the moment that Ms. Cristal has thick enough skin that the remarks do not bother her in the slightest. She doesn’t appreciate having her journalistic skills insulted by two idiots on twitter, but 24 hours later she’s pretty much totally over it.

    But she’s not stupid. This is a ton of press for her; more than she might get in the next 5 years of normal work. So what’s the best way for her to respond to the story?

    Does she ignore it and carry on working? If she does that, she basically misses the chance. Seems like whatever she does, ratings are ratings right?

    Does she lash out at Bernstein? That might ingratiate her to a certain girl power demographic, but is that demo worth going after if you’re a sports caster?

    Does she embrace the compliment? My first instinct would be to go on record with a joke like “Bernstein is right about two things at least. He is an idiot, and I do look a lot better than him on
    camera.” But does that pigeon-hole her? Cristal doesn’t appear to me to be actively seeking the “eye candy” label the way some reporters do. If she acknowledges the attention, will she force herself into that role?

    I’m not a particularly gifted PR guy. I’m curious what some of the blog folks think is her best move.

    • willbest

      A quick joke and that being the end is the best thing for her. And of course she could genitally remind her bosses she was a team player. Going the 15-minutes route is a recipe for retaliation. Not in the firing sense, but things might get tough for her, and of course nobody else is going to hire her either.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        “genitally remind”…dear lord, what a brilliant pun.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Work that twittering twat, girl. The casual deflectory tweet … followed by her hastily edited Christmas cook book.

    • Bender McLugh

      Best response from her……….duck-lipped selfie w/cleavage

    • BearDown100393

      Her best move is to go on Bernstein’s Show. And outclass him. Kill him with kindness. Ratings through the roof. And every local sports media executive will be tuned in.

    • BillW

      Here’s my take on it – does she have any real skills as an on-air sportscaster? If not – she deserves all the crude remarks she gets because it’s all bullshit.

      Thinking more about this I’m growing tired of the laziness of the media pushing eye-candy and calling ti anything but that. If she was hired only for her boobs – and comments I’ve read regarding how bad she is at her actual job indicates she was – then I have no sympathy for her either, and she should simply ignore this and try to succeed without continuing the focus on her chest.

      Bernstein is an idiot. We all know that. We didn’t need this to prove it. But here is how I now read the conversation:

      Speigel: I feel bad for her – she is really struggling.

      Bernstein: I don’t. We’re not supposed to care about anything other than her boobs.

      It’s time for the industry to grow up. If guys want to look at girls strictly for their sexual appeal, there are plenty of outlets for that.

      And if a girl wants to use her sexual appeal as a substitute for skill, then she should be treated more as a sex worker than a media professional.

    • BillW

      “Cristal doesn’t appear to me to be actively seeking the “eye candy” label ”

      Really? I never saw her on TV or even heard of her before all this – but there are plenty of pictures of her on the job where she is wearing tight dresses – hardly the “uniform” of a sportscaster.

      Now why would she choose that form of attire? Because her more professional clothes are at the cleaners?

      It’s all BS. And frankly I’m getting sick of “feminists” playing the “sexism” card just as much as I’m sick of Jesse and Pfleger playing the race card.

      She is using her visual appeal as either a substitute or an augmentation to whatever professional skills she has. And for that she SHOULD be condemned by females who want to be judged by ability.

      Why? Because advertisers don’t care where the ratings come from. Therefore if ratings come from her looks, then competitors will notice and follow suit. And somewhere a less attractive but more competent woman loses out.

      Why does this piss ME off and not women?

    • Big Mike

      The better response is “Bernstein is right about two things at least. He is an idiot, and (most people) look a lot better than him on camera.
      She takes the discussion off of her looks, takes a jab at his radio face and moves on.

  • Scott W.

    I do think people deserve chances to change, and make amends for their sins, mistakes, and bad choices.
    Not one of us here can say we haven’t had to right our wrongs. I made the flip, not-well-thought-out comment earlier that this seemed “hypocritical” in light of the Marshall trade, but Marshall was probably traded because he lost sight of his football playing priorities, in reality.
    I do have a very visceral reaction to women and children being victimized, more so than I do grown men, which I am well aware makes me sexist, old fashioned, etc.
    Here, it’s the question of impropriety/illegality that begs a response, not a judgment. He hasn’t been formally charged, he’s suing to clear his name, and yet, the 49ers saw fit to part ways.
    He may be innocent of the accusations, but if so, why the “prove it” contract?
    Where there’s smoke…?
    I think the Bears should have let this play out, but they didn’t.
    I hope he’s innocent. If not, I hope he rights his ship and makes it to port.
    Meanwhile, we are talking about an NFL that at one time was ready to let Ray Rice stay under the radar.
    Second chances are one thing, hiding woman beaters is quite another.
    With all due apologies for post length, thanks for letting me type/think out loud here.

    • willbest

      Its called buying low, if the Bears waited for him to clear his name, teams would be handing him a lot more money. This way the Bears get a cheap player experienced in their DC’s schemes along with upside of goodwill should he be successful.

      • BillW

        Good way of thinking of it. Still a risk in my opinion.

        • willbest

          Doesn’t seem like a very big one. They aren’t committing any real resources to the guy. And any reputation damage to the organization seems nonsensical. Its not like they have a philosophy of staying away from people with troubled history. Before this guy it was Brandon Marshall and Evan Rodriguez.

          I suppose you could argue that the Ray Rice incident might have brought more awareness to it, but the morality of it all didn’t change overnight. Quite frankly, I think less of the NFL because rather than stand up for its philosophy, they are trying to maintain it while weaseling their way through it to avoid the screaming for blood from the people that in all likelihood don’t even consume their product.

          • BillW

            It’s only the potential distraction that would come IF he has another incident – or IF something more comes from the ones on the table. That’s the only risk I’m talking about.

            But it was clearly measured by everyone involved. Addressed in the media (though some have criticized how they did that, I think they simply wanted to control the message and not get bogged down in “what ifs”).

            I’m giving Mr. Pace my complete faith for the next three years at least. Doesn’t mean I’ll agree with everything he does though.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I like Bill Burr’s response.
      Woman : “Why should a man make more than a woman?”
      Bill Burr : “Because when the Titanic’s going down, there are two lines ….”

      • willbest

        My favorite is…

        I bet women drink around 50% of the milk, but I don’t hear them demanding to shovel half the cow @#$@.

      • Scott W.

        I’m married to a very independently minded, hard working woman. In fact, we just celebrated our 25th this past week.

        The night of our anniversary, at 5:15 a.m., as we slept, our intruder alarm went off, blasting throughout the house. I rose from bed, armed myself, and went to find the problem. My wife stayed behind, door closed, until I determined it was an error, not a home invasion.

        That was exactly what I wanted her to do, but she made that choice reflexively, not because I told her to.

        Read into that what you will. Only shared the story to illustrate the piint being made.

        • Cormonster

          Happy anniversary Scott.

          • Scott W.

            Thank you, sir. I’m a lucky man.

  • GPLDAN

    With all this Ray Rice, Ray McDonald, Rae Carruth, James Earl Ray people are violent shit, it’s kind of fitting that the overall #1 pick will be Jameis Winston.

    • BillW

      Peanut was Man of the Year. I’ll take a team full of him every day over a team full of Ray McDonalds.

      • Waffle

        agreed, although Peanut didn’t hurt himself by being one of the 3 best CB’s ever to play for the Bears. If he was just a guy that was a good dude then we simply wouldn’t want a team of guys like that. We want guys like Peanut because he’s a good guy and was a difference maker.

        • BillW

          Agreed. That’s what I meant. Good guys can be difference makers. You don’t have to be a bad-ass to be a good football player. That’s not the cause and effect direction. But because football is a violent sport Ray McDonald’ types are more common than Charles Tillman types

          • SC Dave

            Seconded. Not too many people would call, for example, Peyton Manning a “bad-ass”.

        • Scott W.

          Like ohhh, say, Shea McClellin….?

      • Big Mike

        Truth be told, in my coaching experience based specifically on results (which is about 3rd or 4th on the list) I have had teams that were made up of players who were too nice. I knew after about a few scrimmages or games, we were going to struggle against certain teams we play. When I’ve competed for or won a championship with a youth team, I’ve had some kids that were “rough”.

        • GPLDAN

          Cue the music! (thanks for that lead in)

        • Scott W.

          There’s a difference between being rough and being a thug with bending moral boundaries.

          • Big Mike

            Please no lectures :). My point was football is a violent sport, sometimes best played by angry, violent men who might not be the nicest people in the room.

          • Scott W.

            LOL….you’ve never heard me lecture. I get worse with age…
            I was just making a point, really.
            I played with rough boys, back in the 15th century, it seems like…

      • GPLDAN

        I agree. I just find it ironic that after the NFL worst year, abetted by the whole domestic violence Watergate that clearly Rodger the Dodger was involved with – at the tail end of a year the NFL would love to forget happened – they open the 2015 season by having a rapist get picked as the consensus #1 draft pick.

        this is AFTER Rodger hiring a new conduct czar aka head babysitter.

        Just lots and lots of irony befitting a snarky tweet, that’s all.

        • Cormonster

          The new conduct czar didn’t fire a single person responsible for the Fast and Furious fiasco after taking over at BATF. He must be a real hardass.

          • Scott W.

            For Rent, not For Hire.

          • GPLDAN

            Perhaps, like huntinbare, he inhales deeply from the peace pipe and the adage “lest ye be judged”.

    • Scott W.

      Man, you hit it here. You read where his accuser has filed a Title IX response to FSU?

      This is really the most compelling issue facing the NFL I think. It goes way past CTE, because it can be argued that for every Borland there is a Conte. Choices vs. Choice Denial.

      If I rail against Winston (and I have), should I also protest McDonald as vigorously? I think Rice, Hardy, AP, et al should pay a price for their actions, just like all of us do.
      I just can’t quite seem to find the line…

      In other news, Alpha Romero is returning to the US market.

      • That’s the slippery slope when trying to implement a “moral” screening process to athletes. I mean, is the causal fan going to read affidavits, interview the victims, investigate every “alleged” crime to find the truth?
        Even then, no one knows what really went on, or if they’re truly contrite and willing to change.

        Like I said. That’s what the law is for. It’s an imperfect process usually favoring the rich, but that’s all we got short of some godly insight.

        • Scott W.

          I hear you, and that’s a great, great point.
          OJ Simpson was acquitted.
          I wouldn’t let him date my daughter post trial though. We have to make the call, whether we know for sure or not.

      • GPLDAN

        I know this: this little film right here has stirred up a giant fucking shit storm on FSU’s campus such that they are circling the wagon and their internal counsel has now retained an outside firm and are issuing a counter-PR campaign…

        http://www.thehuntinggroundfilm.com/

        • Scott W.

          Damn. I’d pay double admission to see that film.
          Here in ridge country, it’s all action/adventure, all the time.

          • GPLDAN

            Oh and it’s Alfa Romeo. Not Alpha.

            It’s an acronym for Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili.

        • Cormonster

          What I don’t get is how all these Universities are allowed to create their own little insular fiefdoms where they have jurisdiction in criminal cases. When a violent crime like rape or assault is committed on a campus, it should be local law enforcement who is called in and not the rent a cops that populate most University police forces. Administrators or boards should have no influence or any involvement in law enforcement decisions or punishments.

    • Trac

      The rub on Payton was that he presented a false image of who he was off the field. Yes, I can see a moral connection on that comparison.

  • huntinbare

    Judgement / Hypocrisy…. Two words that walk arm in arm within the human system. The mind is constantly working the angles within and without the body in it’s struggle for ascendancy and survival. It continues to work to create a comfort zone of well being as it calculates self righteous positions that sound so fool proof. All of the language spent moralizing over human behavior, and how it must be, so that I can participate in a partnership with a particular team and not do damage to my self worth by rooting for a team of transgressors.
    Come down off your throne, accept the flaws, work with them , tinker with them, chip away at them, and when yours are fixed; do not pick up the stones of judgement, but rather use your expertise to help another by using your thorns to remove another’s. I accept all the imperfections because for everyone that is found, ten lay hidden; unexposed to the light of day. Be willing to see that timing is never known when flaw correction occurs. Take the stoners, the transgressors, and the “terrible ilk” and bring in the professional help; and get some for your self…we all come with a common condition and never do “get it all right” before the last breath.
    I always was stunned by some words attributed the the enlightened master Jesus…he reminds humanity that thinking about a despicable behavior is just as much a transgression as performing the act…..
    We needed to make some changes and a course correction was in order. We are building a football team to exist in a violent world; not creating a boy scout troop. Dropping the sanctimony would be a good first step.

    • BearDown100393

      Nice post.
      Ray McDonald is still a piece of shit who abuses women.
      Have a great day.

      • huntinbare

        Experience is the great chisel in the hands of human sculpting…we all have stepped in it and have to clean our feet….I am having another great day …thanks for the encouragement

    • Scott W.

      First, hiya huntin! Good to read you again.

      We have to evaluate and draw conclusions, huntin. It’s what makes us better, and prompts self evaluation. It’s not as sanctimonious as it is discerning.

      • huntinbare

        Hey my friend… Course correction is a good response for our vehicle; but maybe we error in our language about other vehicles paths…who can know what amount of fire causes another to retreat from the pain…I would not want to pass through the Forrest of Physical Abuse Towards the Opposite Sex to discern the truth

        • Scott W.

          Well said. We do not know the measure of abuse as it’s defined by the victim.
          Somehow, an upvote seems trivial, but I’m doing it anyway.

    • Trac

      The heart of man is desperately wicked above all else.

      • Scott W.

        …and to think, I only have 2/3 of mine left.

  • GPLDAN
  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    I was having a crappy ass day today. Then the Fed Ex guy showed up a delivered a package. I opened it up and there is a bottle of Siesta Key Rum. I have no clue who sent it, and it makes me almost believe that there is a God.

    • Waffle

      damn, it was supposed to be Tradewinds, sorry bro.

    • May the penis gods smile upon thee…

    • Bender McLugh

      from FL?

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        yes from FL. I am pretty sure it is distilled in the Sarasota area. It is one the best spiced rum that i have ever had, and you can only get it in a handful of States mainly in the south.

  • BearDown100393

    The fallout continues over Berstein’s “Boob-Gate”. Comcast Chicago will not invite any of the radio station’s employees on its programs. And perhaps more importantly, has informed the radio station not to use any of its recorded audio for on the air broadcasts.

    • BearDown100393
      • GPLDAN

        I like that they found the most douchey of douchebag pictures of Dan Bernstein and sat it right at the bottom of the column in that article.

        He looks like the class dickwad sitting in the principal’s office.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          he kind of looks like a pedophile in that pic

          • His come hither look…come hither to my windowless van at the edge of a dark parking lot…

          • BearDown100393

            Jay Mariotti makes a curious step forward to the van.

        • BearDown100393

          Camera was angled downward. Gives an odd profile.

          • Cormonster

            Isn’t he like 5 feet tall? I think he requests a booster chair when he goes out to eat.

  • GPLDAN

    I have a daydream of Johnny Waffle with a Ghille suit and a blowdart gun, visiting every one of these commenters and shooting them all the neck with poison darts.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/27/john-fox-cutler-will-have-to-earn-the-job-in-an-open-competition/

    That is, after he shoots me first.

    • I’m sure Cutty is getting a bit more $$$ than what’s his name who Wilson beat out, but maybe Foxy is thinking of the same blue-print.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      This is stupid.

      This tactic had no legs BEFORE they paid him. Now…it’s not only pathetic, it’s plain moronic.

      • The coaching staff is trying ANYTHING and everything to try to motivate Cutler. This tactic is a bit transparent, and would probably make Cutler chuckle, if he weren’t banging Cavalri and sipping mojitos in the bahamas….

        • BearDown100393

          Smokin’ Jake

          • GPLDAN

            he don’t care

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          You see…that’s where you’re wrong.

          They’re NOT trying anything and everything. They’re just bashing him over and over and over and over again.

          The idea of bulling someone so he can be and do what you want is a legitimate one. But it doesn’t work in the NFL, man. He might become who you want, but by that time everybody (team mates, opponents, fans) know he’s weak and they can feel the blood.

          Plus… Cutler isn’t the victim type. You can not bully him, at best you can reason with him.

          I would have rather gone with the truthful, sincere tactic, in private and in public, while announcing my full, total commitment and faith in him.

      • BearDown100393

        Oh so what you really mean is that John Fox is full of shit about this being an open quarterback competition…..

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I think THEY are on a player management tactic that has no shot of success.

          You can’t just pay a QB 26 M today and claim an open competition tomorrow.

          Still…they’ve done it and continue doing it. It’s a strange tactic that me personally think it’s stupid. I feel it has a saving face smell to it, rather than what’s best for the team.

          • BearDown100393

            Agreed. Point on comment.

          • BerwynBomber

            What harm is it doing? Other than potentially lowering Cutty’s market value, which is crap anyway, what is the downside? Is Cutler’s confidence that fragile after nine years in the league? Are you afraid it is going to cause a riff between Cutler and the staff?

            He had a crap year last year. He is on notice. Deal with it.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            What good is it doing ? That’s the real objective question.

            The fact that you miss it shows you’re a step behind.

            I leader can’t do shit that make no sense and say ‘what’s the harm?’. His actions are required to bring positive results.

          • BerwynBomber

            Huh? I was not the one objecting to it, you were. And in terms of the good, I believe it puts many starters on notice from last year while letting others know that salary or reputation are no guarantees for a starting position on the field.

            So again, I will ask you (what you have dodged once already): what harm is it doing?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Using your own rationale… it gives the message to all the players that even if you play badly you’re going to get paid.
            It also tells every player that the QB is an overpaid bum and he’s the reason why they can get more cash for themselves.

            That’s the negative version of your own post.

            My opinion on why it’s a negative is different and much more basic. In the NFL if you have a franchise QB, with franchise QB contract
            you have to be positive and faithful in him. If you don’t do that history says you’re going to fail miserably.

            Making Cutler contend with Clausen has positive results only in the mind of the wishful thinking individuals.

          • BerwynBomber

            I don’t think Cutler’s potential failings will have anything to do with the Bears having not stayed “positive and faithful” in him. That is what the contract was for.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I agree.

            But you can’t go from total support Emery style to constant humiliation Fox-Pace style.

            Just because total support didn’t work doesn’t mean that the complete opposite will.

            There’s a clear, transparent, more optional middle ground.

            Example ” we love Cutler, but he under performing. We think he can be the Man in Chicago and successful in the NFL year in and year out, but he HAS to fix his weaknesses. We are very confident that we’ll be able to help him and after talking with him extensively he’ll fully on board with out opinion and plan. He must understand this might be his last chance on putting everything together and make that huge step forward, instead of 1 step forward 2 step back like he did in his past seasons. We’re in this together, but he has the ultimate responsibility in getting it done. He has no more excuses. We will give him no excuses. We’re building something special and we want him to be part of it. He has to prove us each and every day that he wants to be a part of it and we have huge faith in him and in out staff that we’ll be able to help him do that. It’s now or never ”

            I’m a fucking nobody from Romania and just invented this crap in 5 minutes. It’s better than “Cutler has to compete with Clausen and then we’ll see what’s what. Yes, we’ve paid him 26 M guaranteed, but don’t ask us why…didn’t you get the memo from out PR staff who asked you not to make such questions”

    • And the winner of the internet today is…dabears12345

      “Cutler will beat off fales and Clausen while Michael Sam watches”

      • GPLDAN

        COTD

  • 3.5Terbyte flash drive?
    basically, you can have your lap top in your back-pocket.

    http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/27/toshiba-intel-3d-nand-chips/

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      not even big enough to hold my porn.. i mean inspirational video collection.

    • NewBearInTown

      Just bought a new NAS to store the law firm’s data. I believe we have 2 terrabytes, which we suspect should last us 5-10 years without a problem. Granted, its RAID 4, but still. The idea that I can carry basically an entire careers worth of files on my keychain is amazing.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I got my first PC before I went to college to study computer science. x8086 processor.

        hard disk? 20 MB. That’s ‘mega’. SMH.

  • GPLDAN

    Yo Mike –

    I don’t think it was the 4.9 that buried you, dude. Here in Chicago, we got about 3 other solid reasons you are out of the league. Let us know if you need us to name them.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/23/michael-bush-on-his-4-91-second-40-there-goes-my-career/

    • He’s a 240 pound back who runs like a ballerina.
      That’s a start.
      Makes me appreciate Barber the barbarian that much more (just don’t ask him to run out the clock)

  • GPLDAN

    Fwiw Bernstein and his toadie sidekick are not on the air today

  • The more I think about the draft, the more I see the Bears drafting CB Trae Waynes.
    Obviously, the new regime is not puritanical and willing to take some (off-field) “character” risks.

    Also, I agree with Data that Fowler seems like a younger McPhee. Plus, I don’t forsee Fowler escaping out of the Top 5.

    OLB/DE Ray reminds me a lot of Bruce Irvin. A quick twitch tenacious pass rusher, but undersized, and perhaps only a rotational player. Do we want a situational guy at #7? Maybe they could move him inside. He has that mentality, but not sure how he would project there.

    OLB/DE Randy Gregory…It’s not the weed, but the stupidity/apathy of failing the test which worries me (on top of his lack of girth and high bust potential). Pass like he passes the doobies.

    WR Cooper/White are more of a luxury (esp in a deep WR class).

    OG/C Scherff – just about value. The Lions got Warford in the 3rd, while we got Long in the 1st. Is Long worth that much more than Warford? Is Scherff that much better than the top center or top 5-OG in the 3rd round?

    Both Beasly and Dupree (a Fowler type with perhaps more upside) are very interesting, but I would say Waynes is a superior prospect than either at this time.

    In a division with Rodgers/Nelson – Staff/Mega and the up and coming BridgeWater-Johnson, and in a league where nickle is used at least 40% of the time, Waynes might very well be the best for us.

    We can always slide Jennings into nickle (where he belongs) much like the original plan last year before Peanut went down.

    LCB Fuller, RCB Waynes, NCB Jennings will allow Fangio much more creative blitz packages too, so it’ll help the Dline/LBs and pass rush.

    Bringing back Peanut for vet min just to mentor Waynes might be worth the price of admission.

    I think I might have just sold myself.

    • John Doe

      They signed CB Alan Ball today. 6’2″, 197 lbs turns 30 in a couple of days. This is the biggest indication that they will not bring a 34 year old Charles Tillman who twice tore the same triceps the last two years.

      I agree with you on Trae Waynes though. Fangio’s defense needs press-man corners and Waynes is the best in this year’s draft.

      • Yeah, I saw the Ball signing earlier, but figured it was just a camp body, but for sure it doesn’t bode well for Peanut.
        It would be nice for Peanut to mentor Waynes and Fuller (who looked like he was practicing that peanut punch) for one season, but yeah, I don’t think it’s happening.
        Hopefully he takes a position job, but can a cover-2 CB teach the nuances of Fangio’s D?

        • John Doe

          Alan Ball is not camp body. He has 44 starts in the NFL. And was really good in 2013 and until he got injured in 2014.

          Tillman doesn’t need to be on the roster to mentor young Bears CBs. Pace should get creative and find some role for him. Look how Theo Epstein has found roles for Dempster and Manny.

          Ball may very well start opposite Fuller and they will play Jennings inside. Jennings is not a boundary corner in Fangio’s defense. If they draft Waynes, he can learn behind Ball until he is ready. He was too handsy at Michigan State and will draw a lot of flags in the NFL given the new rules.

          Read this on Alan Ball.

          Pete Damilatis @PFF_Pete · 7h7 hours ago
          Alan Ball was injured last year, but he can be a solid CB when healthy. Had a very good 2013: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/05/23/secret-superstars-2014-jacksonville-jaguars/ … #Bears

      • Irish Sweetness

        It would be kinda cool if we snagged the two best corners of the last two drafts. They’re expensive MFs to sign in FA.

    • I still say one of Cooper, Williams, or Beasley will be there, and should be the pick.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Is Cooper really a guy you don’t pass on ?

        • I think so. When I’m drafting this high, I want a guy with great tape and great measurables. Those 3 all fit the bill.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I like it. And on Scherff, he’d probably end up at guard. We can find a guard, we don’t need to draft one at #7.

  • GPLDAN

    Mama buy you a Mockingbird 3.0

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts/lance-zierlein/245605

    ANY chance Lovie does a Sonny Weaver here? Or grabs Leonard Williams?

    • John Doe

      There is a good chance that Leonard Williams will be available to Bears at #7.

      If Titans do not pick Williams, he will be there at #7.

      Marcus Mariota will be #2. May not be Titans who pick but some team that trades with Titans.

      Chargers will trade Rivers and their first round pick to Titans for #2. Wiz likes veteran QBs. Rivers is still pretty good (compared to say someone like Jake), they (Wisenhunt and Rivers) have worked together before and worked well.

      • GPLDAN

        A trade to the Titans for their #2 who the Chargers convert to Mariotta and they give up Rivers? Source for this rumor?

  • GPLDAN

    MB, if you are lurking, I have a tidbit for you…

  • AlbertInTucson

    Blackhawks have commenced to struggling again losing 3 of 4 including tonight at the UC to COLUMBUS 5-2.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Letroy Guion is visiting with the Seahawks and the Packers seem to want him back.

    I’m very happy for him.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    My ideal draft is this.

    #1 OLB
    #2 WR
    #3 S or C
    #4 C or S
    #5 RB (power runner)

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I still can’t believe Lovie is drafting that rapist.

    He only has that church going, smooth talking persona going for him. Drafting such a loose cannon could very likely become his last important decision as an NFL head coach.
    It doesn’t fit with what and how Lovie is. It’s the opposite of the bend, but don’t break coaching philosophy he has.

    I guess I’ll be the only moron ‘in the world’ (american type of exaggeration) shocked on draft day when the Bucs announce Winston as their #1 overall pick.

    • GPLDAN

      Lovie wants to stay in the NFL. Tampa’s owner is less patient than the mcCaskeys. His little Josh McCown regression put back into every body’s mind that Lovie can’t develop an offense. So he goes this offseason and hires a real OC in Dirk Koetter from the Falcons.

      Now what does that guy want? He wants a stud QB that he can mold. You can take a kid that went to school down the road in the panhandle and knows the Florida scene and will come in and be able to play right away. You get the fans riled up. You sell tickets. You keep your job because you gambled, even if it doesn’t go well, you can claim the kid just needs time.

      Lovie is nothing if not brilliant at orchestrating his career to stay in power.

      • BearDown100393

        Lovie Smith is going to groom a stud quarterback? Does anyone truly believe he is capable?

        • GPLDAN

          I think Dirk Koetter is driving this.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        First of all… he’s a loose cannon that very, very likely raped somebody. That trumps the ‘ he went to school down the road and knows the Florida scene’ when it comes with % of success in the high pressure, high stress NFL franchise QB, 1st overall environment

        Second of all…. draft Mariota. All those claims and whatnot are legitimate with him also. Ever more so… as he’s seen as a little behind in his development.

        If this Winston flops -and he surely will- that will be the last NFL HC job Lovie will ever have. It’s just a matter of how fast it will happen.

        PS: The ‘stud QB’ seems a little out of order. I’ve never seen him play, but I head he threw an obscene number of INT in the amateur level of the sport.

        • Scott W.

          Great, great posts Barb.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Thanks man.

            Ironically these might be just the time when my posts are blatantly wrong as there’s a huge likelihood they’ll indeed draft that individual.

            I suppose you don’t agree with me much and when you do I’m likely wrong. I find that funny.

          • Scott W.

            …I agree with you often enough, I just don’t like it when you take a condescending tone, peon….

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I’m not here to bore myself to death. So I prefer the salty, fiery discussions as they’re more fun and on point.

          • Scott W.

            P.S….you aren’t wrong about Winston. If anything, we’re being too kind.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’ve heard nothing good about this guy Winston, but enough to know you don’t draft him #1 overall. Lovie has to go with Williams here.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Mariota.

            He’s got McCoy-Melton at DL so he’s fully covered there.

            You have to go with a QB. Have to.

      • Scott W.

        I think Barb just typed the 2 best posts of his blog tenure.
        He’s right on the mark.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Cool Story. Jason Everman. Kicked out of Nirvana AND Soundgarden, ends up in special forces.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/02/magazine/evermans-war.html

    • Cormonster

      Great read.

    • Scott W.

      Yeah man.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Just watched Super bowl X. Dallas Pittsburgh. Two things sprang to mind. Running. Lots of running. Five passes were thrown in the first quarter. And we can win with Cutty – if he throws the ball as seldom as Bradshaw and Staubach, it’s a different game. Need that defense though, anaesthetic for those passing teams.

    Harvey Martin star facts:

    1. Harvey Martin had 23 sacks in ’77, before they were officially recorded in 81 or 82 – that puts him ahead of Strahan’s NFL record of 22.5. Except it doesn’t.

    2. He is the only deceased SB MVP. (Santonio Holmes is still alive).

    • BerwynBomber

      Games like that aren’t returning anytime soon. Even in the Raven’s first SB win Dilfer probably had Brady-like #s compared to Bradshaw’s or Staubach’s.

  • Jack Lacan

    Norman Mailer believed he could make a literary “star” from a prison inmate.
    Those that want Jamis Wilson are like The Following cult and that Joe Carroll dude…
    Sows ear and all that…or did he apologize for attempted rape (was he acquitted by an FSU student athlete court or something) which will work for both assault and killing now…
    Lovie Smith is his own one man cult…he followed Jay Cutler…

  • RenoBear

    Watchin the Wisconsin- Arizona game and just saw Rodgers and his Beard… Gawwwd she is so hot

  • BerwynBomber

    This ND team can ball. Kentucky’s size might eventually prove too much but ND can ball.

    • Johnnywad

      They really abandoned their offense late. Too bad. That was a hell of a game they put together.

      • BerwynBomber

        Exactly. They ran magnificent O all night and then Grant played hero ball the last three possessions. Also thought Brey made a mistake by not going offense/defense sub for Auguste.

        Helluva effort though.

        • Johnnywad

          I really thought Grant should have tried to penetrate on the last possession. He never tried to split the defenders and instead just raced to the corner and heaved an impossible shot. Easy for me to say I guess. But it seems a play at the rim with the additional hope of a shooting foul is the way to try to finish that game. Of course, I’ve never had to dribble the length of the floor and make a layup in six seconds against Kentucky. Maybe its harder than it looks.

          • BerwynBomber

            Maybe. But the whole idea of running your normal offense for 38 minutes and then having Grant play hero ball the last two was a huge mistake. The kid took the last three shots in their final three possession and never drew iron once. Who knows how much of that was on him and/or coaching. But either way, horrendous decisions.

          • Scott W.

            Funny shit right there man.

        • Cormonster

          I was questioning ND’s last TO call on defense. I thought they should have saved it for that exact situation (getting the ball back with less than 10 seconds). .

          Notre Dame played one hell of a game though. Before the tournament, Notre Dame was one of three teams that I thought could beat Kentucky by outscoring them. The other two are Wisconsin and Arizona.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog

    You ever see the dance audition opening of the movie All That Jazz? Get the feeling that’s what the 2015 Bears will be. One big audition.”

    Well, THAT’S the feeling everyone (especially those suiting up) SHOULD have and that is EXACTLY as it should be.

    The concept that John Fox should be handing out endorsements/votes of confidence/starting jobs to ANYBODY on a 5-11 team is sheer idiocy as is the concept of members of the Chicago sports media manufacturing headlines because the new regime has not done so.

    Attention Chicago Bears:

    To quote the late, great WBBM Sportscaster, Bruce Roberts, you “…stunk the joint out.” for the better part of the last two seasons, ergo…

    The New staff is NOT here to be your friend (The Lovie System).

    The New staff is NOT here to have great weeks of practice (The Trestman System, copied from the Gibron System).

    Produce or Vamoose.

    That’s it.

    That’s the list.

    Regarding The Roberts quote. I didn’t make it up. I saw it live.

    One Sunday evening, most likely in the early ’70s during the Gibron Circus, er, Regime, a WBBM Sunday Sports segment began like this…

    Anchorman, Harry Porterfield: “Time for sports with Bruce Roberts. Bruce, how’d the Bears do today?”

    Sportscaster, Bruce Roberts: “Harry, they stunk the joint out.”

    I used to work with a guy who knew Roberts and told me Roberts was also a die hard Bears’ fan.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I keep seeing the Bears roster being highly under rated. I keep seeing people in all shapes and sizes looking at next year as some sort of an audition slash rebuilding slash discovery season.

    I totally and strongly disagree with this way of thinking. I see the Bears roster as a high quality and deep roster except in one role, a key role mind you, which is ILB. I think there’s material for a very successful season.

    I think much of this is based on my high regard for what Emery was trying to build and the quality he has for acquiring personnel. This new, true coaching staff will have a lot to work with and because they’re high quality they’ll most likely fit the pieces.

    The Defense is going to be nasty. That’s a given in my eyes. You can take the DB and Front 5 production and go to the bank. The ILB play is going to make the difference between excellent and great.

    On Offense the talent is even higher, but there’s less depth . Even with competent coaching they can do a lot of damage. Now, I understand, competent offensive coaching and the Chicago Bears don’t fit in the same sentence, but you can’t expect less than that… really.

    PS: I wanted to write this post because I’m loathing on this rebuild/audition nonsense and I hate when people claim unsubstantiated concepts and act like that’s the reality because they and many others simply think it is. It’s an example of the truth by consensus concept and I disagree with it personally. That’s not out of order and I shouldn’t be pissed, but seeing that I’m passionate about the Chicago Bears I’m almost forced to express my thoughts and bash the contrary ones, if I find them to be one dimensional and insolent.

    • Johnnywad

      I hope you’re right Barb. I just don’t see where you’re getting the production out of the Safety or Linebacker position to make the defense sound. I’m not even convinced the Bears have two high quality starting corners, let alone a third, nickel guy. Fuller looked full of potential but green and injured. Jennings looked like he’s on the doorstep of being too old.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Culliver, Cox, Rogers, Brooks..how knew these guys before Donatell-Fangio put their hands on them. It’s what they do.

        They make a certain type of DBs enjoy great success. Good news: Emery’s type of DBs are bank on on the Fangio-Donatell preferred DBs.

    • I think the personnel and coaching are both there to have a top-notch run D. I have a hard time seeing the pass D be much better than average. I don’t like the S or LB in coverage, and they don’t have a great pass rusher. They have a lot of solid ones, which you can make work, but you need a great one for a great pass rush.

      • overall I agree about not rebuilding though. It’s more of a re-shaping. All these 1 year deals… Bears will have money to spend next offseason. So these guys are looking to show they’re a part of Chicago’s future so they can get re-signed just like Matt Slauson did.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Bears had money to spend this offseason. Will have even more next season.

          In the face of the idea that Cutler’s contract is killing the Bears, who are locked into mediocrity.

        • Irish Sweetness

          If we’re not in a position to win this year, then we’re re-building (sorry Barb). It’ll take two to three years of drafting before you could hope to have a superbowl roster.

          1. The defense was too bad – historically bad – for it to be fixed in an off-season.

          2. I know it’s pre-draft right now, but I think our offense is worse than last year’s as is. Half an OL (no depth) and one receiver.

          3. We don’t have ST. We have Special-Needs Team.

          Isn’t it SB 50 this year? 30 years on. Fuck.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            wait a second…. if you don’t have a Superbowl roster it doesn’t mean you’re rebuilding.

            What does being in a position to win means to you ? I think the Bears are in a position to make the playoffs. Does that mean ‘winning’ ?

            Don’t take my word for it -even if you should- but look at what the Bears did. They signed 3 potential starters who are 30 years old, a WR who’s 29 and a pass rusher in his prime.

            It’s clearly not a rebuilding year (fuck this rebuilding fantasy bullshit).

            PS: I disagree with the ST talk. First of all is to early and second of all the ST last year got better in time as it was natural. The true rebuilding was made last year. They’ll be much better this season.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Having 4 Pass Rushers that could very well give you 8-10 sacks each isn’t a bad thing. Plus, they might draft one with the 7th pick.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I notice you didn’t have any ILBs on your list of draft hopes, Barb. Biggest hole on the team right now in my eyes.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I don’t think you can put a rookie next to Jones (2nd year few snaps LB) and believe you can get it done.

        I think trading, signing cut players and/or wire pick-ups are the way to go.

  • John Doe

    Check out this draft simulator. http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/

    I played this morning and came up with this…use Matt Miller’s big board.

    7: R1P7 WR AMARI COOPER ALABAMA
    39: R2P7 CB JALEN COLLINS LSU
    71: R3P7 QB BRYCE PETTY BAYLOR
    106: R4P7 S ADRIAN AMOS PENN STATE
    142: R5P6 TE TYLER KROFT RUTGERS
    183: R6P7 DT DERRICK LOTT TENNESSEE-CHATTANOGA

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Change the batteries on the simulator.

      The Bears need C, RB, ILB (not in that order) more than anything.

    • NewBearInTown

      Those are fun. I could see the draft shaking out this way. You take Cooper as the true BPA in the first. Then take defensive talent regardless of position in most other rounds with a third round flyer on a QB and a late round pick for the offense.

    • Irish Sweetness

      So basically the only eventual starter on defense we draft will be the CB?

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Erin Henderson visiting the Jets after he visited the 49ers. Strange that the Bears aren’t yet in the mix.
    I have ILB paranoia.

    • willbest

      Jones, McClellin and Bostic. What more could you want at ILB

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I’m going all in on Jones. The other 2 are broken. Damaged bads.

        • John Doe

          I know you keep complaining but Pace is done as far as ILB.

          Mcclellin, Jones, Bostic, and Foster for just 2 spots. They are not going to bring in Erin Henderson or draft any one at ILB. There is already a logjam for 2015.

          Not happening. Move on.

          • Johnnywad

            You crack me up JD. Its just the way you speak of things to come as though they’re written in stone. It reminds me of when you said with all certainty that Ballard was the GM, and Cutler was a Titan, and Forte was absolutely gone, over and over and over again. The reality is, we just don’t know until we know. The Bears suck at LB. You don’t think they’ll add one to the roster if a real opportunity presents itself? You don’t think any of the guys you just listed could possibly be cut? I want the Bears to do what’s best for the team. But now, I also want them to add a LB. You know, just for fun.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Johnny… just a thought/ advice.

            Seeing that the Bears now run a 3-4 defense and not 4-3 you must adapt and start using the specifics. In the sense of OLB and ILB.

            It gets confusing if you don’t. When you say ‘the Bears suck at LB’ I’m prone to respond to you taking a hard position as I see the OLB corp of the Bears as potentially a great one. But then I realize you’re talking about the ILB corp and I fell like I have to send you a bottle of Cognac as a sign of appreciation.

          • Johnnywad

            A fair point

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Look… I respect you and your opinions, but I’m not doing something because you say so.

            ILB is the weakest spot on the Bears roster and Fangio’s Defense is hugely ILB dependent.

            If Pace thinks Mcclellin, Jones, Bostic, and Foster is enough for the position…well…lets just say we have bigger problems than the lack of ILB value.

            Seeing that I don’t think Pace is a cretin…I’ll keep on thinking that’s the main focus position going forward until Week 1 of the NFL season.

          • Big Mike

            Need a couple of 3-4 ends, who are really along the lines of small DTs or Big DEs from a 4-3. Very light there.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Negative. The Bears are good/great there.

            They have 5 interior DL and also Houston and McPhee who can play there.

            Fangio played a 2-4-5 Defense in San Francisco 60% of the time.

          • Big Mike

            Disagree. We will see

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Great”???

            The Bears need to show me that they are “Great” at anything at this point in time.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Excuse me…but an unit formed by McPhee-Ratliff-McDonald-Houson -in the hands of Vic Fangio is what you call a great situation and position to be in.

            A front that includes other interesting pieces and maybe, hopefully a potential stud drafted with the 7th pick in the Draft.

          • AlbertInTucson

            It’s all conjecture at this point.

            I repeat: “Show me”.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Of course that’s the right mentality.

            But if we’re judging strength of units you cut the ‘possibly’ from each and every statement.

            Plus, I have 0 doubts that Fangio will get the maximum out of each player and unit. So, when it comes to the Defense that ‘show me’ thing I put aside as I’m much prone on thinking it on Offense.

        • Big Mike

          Bostic on the inside could be very productive.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            2 years under Tucker most likely damaged an otherwise average/decent LB. That’s how I see it.

          • Big Mike

            The motivation for a second contract with a fresh start under a profession coaching staff should light a fire under Bostic. I suspect we will see maximum effort and preparation. He’s either taking a big jump, or he’s just a guy.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            He was always just a guy. Having a Fangio as DC from the start might have molded him into becoming a better version.

          • Big Mike

            I believe he is young enough and physically gifted enough to take a big step. So we will disagree here.

    • RenoBear

      Isn’t Henderson the cat who cracked his femur in half playing the Bears on a Sunday or Monday nighter about 2-3 yrs ago? Surprised he’s still playing

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I don’t remember.

        The NFL is a vicious spot. Every other game there’s some grossome injury and it’s very telling that you don’t remember a cracked in half femur.

        In other sport like soccer, basketball & Co you remember them for years. In the NFL it takes a week max, sometimes a commercial break.

        • Big Mike

          At the highest level of professional sports this is true. However, having coached youth sports for over a decade, I see more injuries in soccer than in football. Ankles, Concussions far more prevalent. Don’t have data, just from what I see.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I keep hearing about concussions in soccer. I’ve played soccer almost exclusively all my life and I’ve never had a concussion nor do I remember somebody that had one. Played 95% on concrete or dirt in the best case scenario.

            I just don’t understand these claims. I’m not negating them, it’s just hard for me to understand them because of the experience I have in playing the sport.

            When I was little we were playing tournaments of 20-30 players, 5 on 5, 10 minutes games in the middle of the neighborhood, in a parking lot filled with holes and shit like that.

          • Big Mike

            I would suspect that the reasons behind the increase in soccer related concussions at the youth sports level in the states has to do with awareness and “soccer moms”, being slightly more protective than an Black Bear with her Cubs.

            Also youth soccer in the States involves year round training, tournaments, games, against better and better competition. Torn ligaments in the ankles, severe sprains all the time.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Oh yeah. Injuries are very common. Head injuries are a surprise for me.

            It might be a lack of talent and poor physical coordination reasons. Maybe in the US they send kids to soccer as a last resort, girls and boys together.

            When we played as youngsters we were all decently skilled and knew what we were doing. We were fans of the sport and saw it as that. A sport, not an excuse to do our ’60 minutes’.

          • Big Mike

            Girls soccer in the US is I believe on par with the rest of the world. It is the primary sport of athletic girls. The coaching varies by skill level but at the travel and elite travel level is very good.

            I know very little about the state of boys soccer.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            That’s what I’m saying. Girls soccer in non existent here and in most of Europe.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Here’s my revised mock draft:

    #1 ILB
    #2 ILB
    #3 ILB
    #4 ILB
    #5 ILB
    #6 ILB
    #7 ILB

    I call it double triple dipping and the flier.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      I want to reminisce a little, so here is my mock draft.

      1. injury-prone Oline
      2. undersized DL
      3. slow white safety
      4. CB (preferably one that was converted from a Safety with little ball skills)
      5. QB from small school that does not run anything that even closely resembles an NFL offense
      6. Freakishly athletic LB or DE with no discernible Football Skills
      7. below average Oline or WR, either way they will be touted as NFL quality players that just need time to develop and the Coaching staff will talk about how good they are for at least 3 years with little to no productivity.

      • Johnnywad

        Don’t forget to throw in a TE on #6.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          That would mean the Bears had 8 picks. That’s not Bears. They’re more of a 5 or 6 picks/year team. Hah.

          • Big Mike

            They must have traded back from 7 to 20 to pick up the two late round picks.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          naw we don’t need a TE in the draft. we can just sign a FA with an un-pronounceable name, and has no pass catching skills. ie Fendi Cinnabon or Brandon Manumanulunaunaluna. if they are over weight it is even better.

      • BillW

        All that after trading down of course.

        • Big Mike

          So now that we’ve set the bar this low, we are assured of topping HBP’s mock draft 🙂

    • Big Mike

      You are persistent. I’ll say that.

  • BillW

    Reading some of the posts here regarding Fox not handing out jobs etc

    Reminds me what I read about him when he became Carolinas coach

    His first players meeting he said to the team something like this

    You had a lousy record and all the coaches got fired. Many of you are the reason why. It’s my job to figure out who and get rid of you

    • AlbertInTucson

      Not unlike Ditka’s “We are going to win the Super Bowl but many of you will NOT be here when we do” speech when he took over the Bears.

      • BillW

        Gotta love that attitude. Contrasted with certain coaches who feel it’s their job to “grow the man”.

        • Big Mike

          and have good practices.

    • Scott W.

      Hell, I remember that speech.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Adults liking WWE is sad. Sorry. It is.”

    Why? Because YOU don’t like it?

    No, I’m not fan of it either but who ARE you? The Entertainment Police?

    Now, if you’re talking about adults who that that WWE is REAL as opposed to play-acting, that’s another matter and I think that IS sad.

    • BillW

      Another in a long line of Jeff’s Tweets where he sadly thinks everyone cares oh so much about his opinions on everything. Twitter will make you seem like a narcissist.

      • Big Mike

        It’s just his opinion. I share the same one. But so what.

        • BillW

          The “so what” has nothing to do with his opinions. It’s my rant about Twitter.

          • Big Mike

            Ahhhh. Well then carry on

    • Scott W.

      He’s just thinking out loud Al. Nothing wrong with that, seeings as how we do it here prolifically.

      • BillW

        We do it too / with each other. Jeff does it to his followers – however many that is.

        I guess I need to back off though. After all, I’m spouting off on Twitter as if any really cares about my opinion on it. So I realize that to a smaller audience I’m just as guilty.

        (I hate when that happens.)

        (Not that anyone cares.)

        (Maybe I should just quit typing.)

        • Scott W.

          That, or even in verbal conversations, we could all preface our comments with “@_________”.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Well, that was me, thinking out loud right back. Sooo glad I don’t Tweet.

        • Scott W.

          I tweet to people begging them to follow me for validation, but other than that…

  • BearDown100393

    Saints Brian Dixon arrested in Miami for resisting arrest. He was on a moped and initially cited for traffic violations. He later refused to sit on the curb which ultimately led him ending up in handcuffs.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Up next… not the Police version of the events.

  • BearDown100393

    About having Jay Cutler instead of Manning as quarterback, John Fox tells the media…
    “”How different is it walking into a building where Peyton Manning is leading the show, then coming to work in the morning and Jay Cutler is the guy?”

    Ouch.

    Fox’s response: “I’ll go back to when people forget that we had Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow. When I walked into that building, I didn’t have Peyton Manning.”

    Double ouch.”
    Source: Rich Campbell, Chicago Tribune

    • Big Mike

      A lot is being made out of the fact that Fox had Manning for two years. His career was very successful before then. Thanks for sharing that.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I wouldn’t say very successful. Successful, yes.

        On par, if not worse that Lovie Smith’s career frankly.

        • Big Mike

          I can agree with you. But I’m a big Lovie fan. I see his flaws as a coach. But as a leader, he made an impression on me. Off topic, I think had Lovie had the benefit of Emery as his GM this would look completely different.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            He was total power in Tampa and things are looking awful. He had a certain level of success, but nothing incredible.

            Fox did worse than him before the Denver experience.

          • Big Mike

            Has only been there a year. Need time to witness the turn around that is coming.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            He invested tons of resources and did worts than the disaster called Schiano.

          • Big Mike

            Takes time. Just wait.

    • GPLDAN

      Fox made it about how nobody is P Manning instead of sticking up for Jay. Somewhat telling I guess. It will be interesting to see how Jay responds to a camp and team where everybody secretly thinks he sucks. Will he step up or crumble?

      • Big Mike

        Interesting take on it. I suspect Cutler shows up works his ass off (like he always does), Studies hard to learn the new play book and terminology, works with the other QBs in the room and so on. Fox and Cutler will say nice things about each other. The whole no response/no support of Jay theme by Fox is based on Fox not wanting to comment until they actually start working together.

        Cutler hasn’t crumbled in the face of any of the nonsense he’s been dealt. He’s not been a great QB. But he’s not crumbled. I think the bet is between status quo and stepping up. Stepping up would make the Bears competitive. What sucks is that Cutler is so twitchy. It seems like the personalities around him throw him off his game. Said another way his “zone” is pretty narrow. Getting him there takes a lot it seems.

        I’m hopeful for him. He’s always handled himself well off the field. (see Kromer/Marshall, see Lovie getting axed, his public support for Brandon Marshall, Trestman and so on).

        • Scott W.

          Nice post Mike.

          • Big Mike

            Thanks

        • BillW

          Unfortunately I can’t help but think he hasn’t crumbled in part because he honestly doesn’t care. In this instance, that’s a benefit. But overall it’s contributed to “good things” not happening.

          Don’t get me wrong – I truly admire him. Really – he plays a violent sport, without complaint. He is a good decent family man. Has done well with his career. Got his payday. He’s not a winner in my mind – but he’s certainly not a “loser” either.

    • NewBearInTown

      Maybe not the best quote, but meh. People are looking for a story right now. If Fox had sung Jay’s praises, everyone would laugh at the notion that he and Manning are in the same league. If Fox had said he didn’t care about the past and was devoted to Cutler, people would be moaning about “Jay is our quarterback” comparisons. If Fox threw Jay under the bus, people would belly-ache about that too.
      It was a no win question. Fox correctly made it about how Manning is one of the best of all time. Then he correctly reminded everyone that he’s built teams around a lot of great players.
      I remember an interview he did about Tebow and the college style offense they were running (sort of a Wildcat style). He basically said flat out “Tim can’t make the throws in a traditional offense, so we’re improvising.” Didn’t hurt the team then, won’t hurt the team now.

  • Big Mike

    Bored…

  • BillW

    Fox on Cutler: Unless something good happens, it’s hard to have confidence.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/30/fox-on-cutler-unless-something-good-happens-its-hard-to-have-confidence/

    As I’ve said, Fox will be answering Cutler questions day after day. I hope he realized that. So far his comments are curious at best.

    Open competition? Really? 15 million fro a QB that you need to evaluate against Clausen and Fales to see if he should be the starter?

    Same at all positions? Really? Forte is in competition with Carey? Kyle Fuller is in competition with all the other CBs (that I can’t even name)?

    It’s a tactic – and Jay probably scoffs at it. Not a good start.

    And now he seemingly is enabling Jay by the comment above. As if Jay had no control over good things not happening. Good things didn’t happen for poor Jay, and we all KNOW he’s the victim in all this.

    Please.

    It’s amazing what Cutler can do to people. Fox has just gotten started. I am a bit concerned. The man is in a no win situation. He has a QB making a large portion of the Bear’s cap who doesn’t seem motivated to win. So he tries to motivate him by excusing his failures. While also not handing him a job. Even though you’re stuck with that money whether he plays or not. And Cutty don’t care.

    If you have real doubts as to whether he or Clausen or Fales should start, maybe the better thing would be to get rid of him at any cost. The trade deadline hasn’t passed yet.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      everyone on our team sucked last year. If i was going in for the coaching position i would be saying the same damn thing. I don’t care how much money you are making, how long you have been in the league, or when you were drafted, everyone is starting out at ground zero. If you want to play prove it on the field. Time to man up! Damn right it is for all positions, Forte is closing in on the 30yr old mark, RBs tend to just fall apart at that age. Kyle Fuller is in his 2nd year, and besides a couple games looked like an average DB. And as a Coach he is responsible for putting each player in the best position to succeed. What the fuck do you want him to say? People need to quit over analyzing everything that comes out of a coach’s mouth.

      • BillW

        I can’t disagree. But my problem comes in when they consciously decide to keep him, and his salary hit and extra 10 million on top of that, and then imply they are not sure he’s the best option at QB. That Jimmy Clausen and/or David Fales might be better.

        Besides – there is no reason that Fuller or Forte should be fighting for their jobs. And you know he only said “it’s the same for all positions” to backtrack on the curious opinion that despite consciously signing on for 25 million more on Cutler he admitted he may not even be the best QB on the roster.

        That’s understanding the implication of the comment – very intuitive and not even close to over analyzing.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Motherfuckers are playing the ‘keep your hands clean game’.

      It has nothing to do with making the Bears better or at least trying.

      There’s no fucking scenario where the head coach/leader of a team says such a humiliating phrase and it has a positive impact.

      Hare’s the correct way of saying it: “Cutler needs to make something happen. It’s likely his last chance. I have confidence he realizes that”.

      PS: I hope some fucker asks Fox or Pace about the reasons why they paid Cutler 10 more millions. Looks to me there’s a big cluster fuck behind that decision.

      • Scott W.

        You’ve certainly got the F-word cranking it up.

        • AlbertInTucson

          That ALWAYS enhances a post (He said sarcastically).

          • Scott W.

            Fuckin’-A it does…(he said sardonically)

    • Big Mike

      The money has no bearing. It’s spent. Fox didn’t do it. Your comment loses credibility when you start with the salary.

      • BillW

        Correct in one respect. However, as I’ve learned in business, when you take over a job after a certain period you own all the mistakes of your predecessors. They aren’t there anymore.

        They very consciously decided to keep Cutler. Which put them on the hook for another 10 million as Barb points out. More to the point, they signed on to the likely constant barrage of questions.

        And here’s the issue with the fact that the money has been spent. That’s holds true if they decided to get rid of him. Which I suspect they will do eventually anyway.

        Had Fox said what Barb suggested I’d be cheering him. But it already sounds like he’s setting up excuses.

        Let’s see – in Jay’s tenure here we “no OL; no receivers; offensive game plan designed to get him sacked over and over; no defense”. And now we have “no confidence because good things haven’t happened.”

        Gimme a break.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I don’t see them cutting Cutler because he might as well excel in the balanced offense, nasty Defense it’s set up to be.

          My instinct tells me he’ll be in Chicago next year. He has positives in his track record. Activate those instead of the negatives and he’s much better than any other solution that’s out there.

          For a decent, middle of the pack 16 M contract.

          • BillW

            Good point. And he keeps getting cheaper. In 2016 we can’t complain about his contract anymore. Given it’s a sunk cost as Mike points out, we really can’t complain now either.

            But if Cutty gets benched – or performs such that he should get benched – I feel sorry for Fox in that the media hounds will be after him.

            (Fox – hounds…get it?)

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Yeah… Not particularly stand up comedy funny, but close enough.

            Feel bad for Fox is Cutler gets benched… not really. Seems to me it’s part of the strategy for them, not something out of order.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I’ll feel sorry for me…that’s for sure.

    • this is being taken massively out of context.

      “‘I have concerns with really everybody we’re going to line up as a starter. But I know this: Unless something good happens, it’s hard to have confidence.’ Fox is talking about Cutler’s confidence level…”

      So Fox is alluding to the fact that Cutler lost confidence last year, which he has already stated. He is saying absolutely nothing about his confidence (or lack thereof) in Cutler.

      The step down from Peyton Manning to Jay Cutler is steep. But please can the media and fans stop putting words in Fox’s mouth that make it sound like he hates Cutler?

      I have absolutely no doubt that Cutler is not the guy Fox wants long term. I am fairly certain that Cutler will be gone within 2 years. That does not mean the Bears are going to suck as long as Cutler is their QB.

      • John Doe

        It also means John Fox is ready to bench Jake Cutler 5 games into the season if he punks Gase and Fox like punked Trestman and Kromer or if he is simply not capable of executing what they are asking him to do.

        “I’ll go back to when people forget that we had Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow. When I walked into that building, I didn’t have Peyton Manning.”

        John Fox is a type of coach who is willing to play a year with Jimmy Clausen and David Fales. Cutler will return to the locker room this year a diminished man and player. Gone are the days when Lovie Smith, Jerry Angelo, Trestman, and Emery used to suck up to Cutler. John Fox is simply giving “Dooon’t Care” vibe back to Cutler.

        Whatever role Cutler will have this year on the Bears, it will be more along the line ” how do we ensure Cutler does not lose the game for us”

        Another positive.. John Fox is not buying into Jake’s padded up stats. He doesn’t think Cutler has had success recently. Many Cutler lovers thought Jake had a good year in 2014 and site his completion % etc. Good to see John Fox not buying that crap.

        “I think I’ve seen him have success, albeit maybe not super recent,” Fox said during last week’s NFL owners meetings. “But in spurts. In sections of his career. And in games. He’s had success. And now, like anybody, it’s becoming more consistent with that success. So that’s about as simple as you can be. But it’s about as truthful as you can be.”

        Cutler had just one good game in 2014..against Atlanta. 1 game in 15 is not a good QB.

        • BerwynBomber

          I would argue he played well against SF and, to a degree, NYJ, though against the latter he was lucky the fumble return TD was not called correctly.

          • John Doe

            Meant complete game. He was off in the first half against SF. He started of well against NYJ and then became the inconsistent QB we know.

        • GPLDAN

          This regime is also 100% blameless. If they bench Cutler and the cries come of “you are paying $15M to him!” they can simply dial up Emery and Nessman.

          They could have him lose the camp battle to Clausen if he shows up with attitude and the press and the fans have no ground to criticize.

        • BillW

          Amazing. We’re talking about a QB entering his TENTH season! But now “it’s becoming more consistent”. Like maybe you’d speak of a third year player.

          And yet people still believe there’s a consistently successful Jay Cutler in there and Fox is the guy to bring that out. Just like all the other HCs and OCs.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            yes all the other “Great” HCs and OCs we had couldn’t make him successful. Great offensive minds like Lovie, Turner, Tice, Martz, Tresman….
            I don’t believe JC will ever be great, he will always have those WTF throws, but he was not the only problem on all those teams, especially last year when it was clear that many players lost faith in the coaching staff.

      • BerwynBomber

        Agreed. I took it that he was talking more about Cutler’s confidence (or lack thereof) than his own in Cutler. Even if Fox does not care for Cutler, he would not go there with the media.

      • BillW

        Absolutely he was talking about Cutler’s confidence (not his confidence in Cutler.) I knew that from the start. I wasn’t taking anything out of context.

        In context – he’s saying it’s hard for Cutler to have confidence since good things didn’t happen. It’s like feeling sorry for a kid who killed his parents because now he’s an orphan.

        (Well, not really – but I always thought that was a funny joke.)

        Good things COULD have happened to Cutler if say he didn’t throw INTs to fat guys. But Fox makes it sound like the poor guy just never caught a break.

  • Scott W.

    A LOT of respect flowing from NFLN to Fangio this morning. Used Allens comment to spin off into Fangio.
    Let’s hear some “Gase will work miracles with Cutler” now.
    Anyone?
    Bueller?
    Bueller?

  • John Doe

    Excellent work by Pace and Stein last week to get all these guys for minimum deals. Means plenty of money and cap space left.

    Get Wisniewski on a 1 year deal too, TE Rob Housler and Dashon Goldson when he is released and Bears will be set up perfectly for the draft.


    Brad Biggs @BradBiggs · 19m19 minutes ago
    #Bears contract for LB Mason Foster is 1 year for minimum salary benefit. $80K signing bonus, $745K base salary, $825K total value.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      They got them for minimum deals because their past performance.

      Having a starting ILB that only got a minimum 1 year contract in FA, whine in his prime isn’t an event that makes me want to give awards for excellence.

      • BillW

        I do happen to agree with JD. And you. These were frugal deals set up as we are in a transitional period (or something other than rebuilding). But nothing to get excited about. EXCEPT – as JD alludes to – they are not overspending hoping for a quick fix. They are instituting a different defensive scheme – they need new pieces to help that transition – and they are getting them at low cost as they go about evaluating what they will need once the scheme takes root.

        It’s a good job by Pace in my opinion too.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          It might be of it might not be.

          They did spend a lot of cash in other positions.

          As a fan it’s somewhat contra productive rooting for a certain club to not spend resources.

          PS: ILB is a key spot in Fangio’s D. I’d say it’s more important spending there rather than S-slot DB.

          Truth is…there weren’t any good options in a poor FA class. They got a minimal contract 1 year LB because of than, not because they’re in cash saving.

          Add to that that the Bears will have tons of cap space next year without Marshall’s contract, Allen, Bushrod, Forte, Jennings. That’s something like 40 M of cap space added to the remaining 10+, added to 10M/year the cap increase.

          Basically you’re saving cap for nothing.

  • Sactowns#1

    Alright gents. I’m in San Diego for the week. Who wants to grab a beer?

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Piss off !

      • Irish Sweetness

        MWAH!

    • I wouldn’t mind grabbing some of that SD weather, but alas I’m stuck in Chicago.

  • BillW

    To me, Barb wins the day with what he feels Fox SHOULD have said:

    “Cutler needs to make something happen. It’s likely his last chance. I have confidence he realizes that”.

    Instead of “it’s hard (for Cutler) to have confidence when good things don’t happen.” Barb’s statement is a challenge to him. Fox’s statement is another in a long line of excuses.

    • Big Mike

      You can’t add Fox’s comment’s to Lovie’s, Angelo’s, Emery’s or the worst coach in Bear’s history. All you can do is take it from the point where Fox became the Bears’ HC. He has maintained a neutral position. In my opinion he is clearly waiting to see Jay live. All he’s said is Jay’s in the #1 spot to start, he has to earn it. Can’t say too much more, or too much less.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        If he’s not ‘fixing’ Cutler before seeing him live it’s going to be to late.

        Being a leader and the player he wants Cutler to be is a job that starts from Day 1 on the job in January.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        If my soon to be wife, before the wedding, goes and asks my exes about me in order to decide the best course for herself…….. I’m not marrying that bitch no matter what she says or doesn’t say.

        You call it neutral position, I call it a slightly bulling type of passive aggressive behavior.

        Lots of humiliating shit has been leaked these past couple of months. Acting somewhat in a neutral way can’t fool us fans.

        • Big Mike

          I would argue that Fox’s approach is that of a veteran HC who has seen it all before. He’s expecting Cutler to man up and do his job. It’s not passive aggressive. People rode Lovie Smith out of town for his “rex is our QB declaration”. Now you are on Fox for not making the same type of declaration. Fox has said, Jay is the starter for now. That’s all Cutler deserves after the performance last year. I’m expecting to come in and be shockingly good in the off-season.

          I don’t think Fox is acting neutral. I believe he is neutral. Getting input from people who have coached Cutler is smart. It was practically mandatory after the sideshow that the Bears had become.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            You’re missing the point.

            They weren’t just getting input from ex coaches, they leaked the fact they were doing it.

            Now I understand why they asked exes (legitimate even if silly action). Do you have any idea on why they leaked it ? I’ve never seen something like that. It’s a huge question mark. It needs answers, meanings.

          • Big Mike

            I don’t know about leaks. But if it was leaked you have to know if it was intentional by Fox (I’m assuming it was). If it was intentional, to what end? Give the media something chew on? Throw Jay off his game? Send a message to the entire team. It’s all speculation. I can see a number of positive outcomes of leaking Cutler’s bad press with former coaches and GMs.

            My point is that these handful of facts live out there now in gossip land and on social media. When the boys get back in the building the real work starts. Fox will perhaps have one of those “come to jesus moments” with his team. As in you sucked last year, some of you caused the sucking and will be gone. 🙂

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Of course it was a leak. It was a god damn press release.

            “Give the media something chew on? Throw Jay off his game? Send a message to the entire team.”

            Lets be serious. Give subjects to the media, play sociopathic mind games with certain players or all the players…these aren’t real possibilities. I mean…come on man.

            If you want to go there… it sends the message ‘players, do what i say or I’m going to leak fucking shit about you to the media’.

            This is a case of character assassination and the results can’t be positive. Not in the NFL, not with Cutler. It can only work if Cutler says ‘fuck Fox’ and goes and becomes better on his own just to show Fox he doesn’t know shit. Because hate can be an awestanding motivator.

          • Big Mike

            Relax. I think you are getting to excited about this. I think your opinion on this is misinformed and nearly delusional. I’m checking out.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Yeah…sure.

            cause I’m the one thinking Fox is ‘giving stories to the press’ and ‘putting the QB off his game’.

            Talk about misinformed and delusional

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Don’t put me on the spot like that.

      My point is you can be harsh and sincere in private and public, but you have to have a positive intention and message.

      Just do what NHL coaches do each and every day. Step between compliments and sincere criticism.

  • GPLDAN
    • SC Dave

      “[$350,000]… That’s you know, like, gas for their yachts.”

      Nice.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “Marge, we need a little money from the petty cash drawer.”

  • GPLDAN
    • BillW

      We have at least two of those retired too – Gale and Brian that I know of.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Guys, I’m incredibly anxious about the hard hit the Falcons received for being cheaters. How can they survive without a 5th round pick in the 2016 Draft ? Finger bitting stuff.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Piss on ’em.

      You cheat, you pay.

      You play in a DOME and you have to pipe in fan noise?

      GREAT fans you got there, Atlanta.

      • BillW

        I think he was being sarcasic. A very mild punishment. And the guy responsible was fired two weeks ago. The league would have suspended him but he was a nobody anyway.

        Cleveland gm suspended 4 weeks for texting the coach. But not until the season starts when the gms work is largely done. If they wanted to punish him he should be suspended now with the draft coming up

        • yeah, I saw multiple people commenting about that on Twitter today. Suspending guys when their jobs aren’t important anyway. It would be like giving a player a 4 week suspension for failing a weed test during the offseason. Maybe they miss an OTA or something. Whoop de do.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Yes, in the end it was “Slap on the wrist” time.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    “Meggs (the State Attorney) went on to say that there was no evidence that sex between Winston and the victim was “a forceful act.” Sure, that could be true, if you ignore the bruises that a sexual-assault nurse noticed on her left knee and right elbow, the blood on her shorts, and the fact that Winston’s DNA was found in her panties. And that she called two friends immediately after the encounter; we don’t know what she told them, but it was serious enough that one of the friends called her parents and the other called the cops. She also described Winston’s apartment accurately. She remembered that he owned a black scooter.”
    http://deadspin.com/why-i-believe-jameis-winstons-accuser-1479782169

    There are few instances where bruises and vagina blood is accepted (some people like it rough.), but much, much more often it’s rape. It’s sure as fuck that the victim wasn’t into all that rough stuff seeing that her best friends called 1) her parents (‘go pick up your daughter from the gang bang’ isn’t a usual thing to say) and 2) the Police.

    It’s either rough sex or rape. In this case you have to be lunatic not to understand how things went down.

    People accepting so easily that this bum will go No. 1 in the NFL draft while bitching and fucking my brains out with Hardy and McDonald (troubled dudes who fucked up while in volatile relations with dubious women) is blatantly pathetic.

    • Scott W.

      Keep hammering him Barb. You are 100% right on this one, no BS.

  • GPLDAN

    Here’s what makes Waffle reach for the potato gun:

    NBC, which should really not use yellow journalism shit tactics, has an article entitled, “Fox on Cutler: Unless something good happens, it’s hard to have confidence”

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/30/fox-on-cutler-unless-something-good-happens-its-hard-to-have-confidence/

    That makes it seem like John Fox is saying “unless Cutler makes some great plays I have no faith in him.” But of course the quote is wildly out of context. Fox was describing Jay’s previous year, saying he lost confidence, and since Jay didn’t see anything good happening around him, he started to wane as well. TOTALLY different message.

    But NBC went for the cheap shot. And that is what Cutler is going to get all the way in this season from everybody who wants him to fail, which is pretty much everybody in the media at this point, and nobody is giving that guy ANY breaks or ANY favorable treatment because he’s told them all he could care less about them and they can fuck off.

    The press is going to punish Jay mightily for having no press strategy. No favorite reporters that will spin his way, nothing. He truly hates the game of media relations and so they are going to fuck him every single way they can and that headline is just part and parcel of that.

    • BillW

      I just think it was worded ambiguous unintentionally. Funny that I read the headline correctly, then commented on Cutler being part of the cause of his own confidence poblem, and I think it was JWood who assumed that I interpreted the headline incorrectly. When I realized all along it was referring to Cutler lack of confidence.

      This is humorous. I see still another Cutler effect. Posters here assume a headline like that is intentionally misleading. And posters assume other posters are misinterpreting it.

      Really. Only with Cutler does this happen.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Haha, then you don’t know anything about “click-bait” journalism. Headlines are MADE for a REASON….to get people to say “Oh, what?!” Hands the clerk a dime

      • I was referring to the headline, and the way the article started, not your take on it. Sorry for the confusion.

    • Johnnywad

      That alone is enough to hope for his success. If you force players to speak to the media, you’re going to get a few that just don’t/won’t play nicey nice. I don’t blame them. Quarterbacks in particular, are lightning rods, bombarded with questions that reach a level of stupid seldom seen in other arenas.

      • Scott W.

        They actually feed them questions that REQUIRE a cliche response. It’s nsuseating.

    • Irish Sweetness

      There was a fair comment below that piece. It went “Cutler checked out last year ; what makes people think he’ll check back in?”

      Something isn’t right about this whole scenario, something is off. There’s a piece or two to the puzzle we don’t have.

      • Trac

        Cutler is so old news and is oh so boring to talk about anymore. Can’t wait to see who our next QB of the future will be. Next……..

        • Scott W.

          I am befuddled by their “backup” plan, whatever the hell it is.

      • newsflash: everybody checked out last year. That shows what Cutler isn’t: a leader who can keep the team together in tough times. But that doesn’t mean he isn’t a competent QB when under decent leadership (aka the Lovie/Urlacher years).

    • John Doe

      “The press is going to punish Jay mightily for having no press strategy. No favorite reporters that will spin his way, nothing.:

      Come on, GP, you know better. The media isn’t out to get Jake. They are just out sell their content based on what fans are feeling. It is totally up to Cutler. Play well and the media will stop doing negative stories because they will look foolish. Throw INT to fat DT, continue to have 3-4 INT games against Packers and the Chicago media will keep whacking you like you are a pinata. It is that simple.

      Did you forget the number of puff pieces on Jake Cutler that came out right after he signed the big contract last year up until the season opener against the bills? Both print and the tv media went into overdrive about how Bears now have a franchise QB.

      Even David Haugh did a major sucking up to Cutler before the season opener when he began an article talking about the walk in Halas Hall leading up to a room with a plate “The QB Room” and how Jake spends long hours their with Trestman, Kromer, and other QBs, Cutler talked about how they reinforce even little things over and over, how they constantly make him repeat the reads so that he can tell you the correct read even when asleep and on and on and on.. Kromer talked about how Cutler now has full ownership of offense. how Cutler does not need him and Trestman and that he can “solve” all his problems on the field on his own.

      And then Bills season opener came along and the fat DT INT happened. And every one came back to earth. And then the Green Bay game, and the Carolina, and then Dolphins and the season was pretty much over.

      Jake can easily shut up every one in the media – the Grudens, the Haughs, etc- by playing like a $16 million per year QB. The problem is he cannot play at that level for an entire season. May be a quarter or two or may be even a game occasionally. But play12-14 good games out of 16? That is not Jake Cutler’s cup of tea.

      • GPLDAN

        The LOCAL media has never gone full hate on Jake.

        The national media? No. Sorry. Once he started being a punk in Denver they have been relentlessly negative.

    • Scott W.

      That and other reasons is why I detest PFT, and refuse to read them.
      They suck.

    • BerwynBomber

      I don’t see that at all. The media has largely been supportive of Cutler throughout his tenure here. Even Boers and Bernstein have never gone full hate on Cutty in the way they have Trestman or Lovie (or Emery or Angelo). In fact, largely the coaches have taken the fall for Cutty, both in reality and journalistically.

      On an national level you have the occasional Urlacher comment, and of course there was the infamous Gruden deconstruction during the Saints game (which was not helped by the fact that Brees put on a pro QB clinic that night). But these crits have been the exceptions; not the norm. Largely, it is still the “he has all the tools/will he finally realize his potential?” stories.

      The only thing that might change is that the Cutler excuses may finally dry up. One element of that is due to Fox having won with QBs like Dehlomme and Tebow in his past.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        He won with Dehlomme and Tebow because he had stellar rosters around them.

        One can’t fantom how many elite and great players there were in Carolina when they were winning with Dehlomme.

        That being said, people should also understand a basic fact. The winning basically stopped to a halt when an elite QB entered the division in Drew Brees.

        Fox is something like 1-4 in positive record (> 8-8) against an elite QB contender. With a kick ass elite roster minus QB on his hands.

    • Much like Cutty, Media “Dooooon’t Caarreee”.
      Ironic, isn’t it? (or what’s the opposite of irony? Fitting?)

    • BearDown100393

      “nobody is giving that guy ANY breaks or ANY favorable treatment because
      he’s told them all he could care less about them and they can fuck off.”
      And Jake will continue to not care. He won’t care about Fox’s statement or how the media reports it. He won’t care about those who defend him on sports message board forums. And he won’t care about the growing legion of his critics. He won’t care about his teammates remaining silent or neutral on the issue just as he won’t care about Kyle Long or Matt Slauson’s words of support. What he will do is show up at camp as expected. And he will perform as he always does. He will throw deep routes to Alshon and out compete Jimmy and David. Nothing will really change. Because in Jake’s world, nothing really has to alter. His money is now safely guaranteed. His financial security is assured. The last remaining question is whether or not he cares enough to prove his critics wrong in the upcoming 2015 season. Pragmatic minds already know that answer.

  • GPLDAN

    BR says Wilson gonna be a star

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2409093-predicting-every-nfl-teams-2015-breakout-player/page/7

    I just… do not see it with this kid. In camp, he looks too thin, he’s slow off the snap, slow in his cuts – all he has is a glide mode that has some speed. His hands have no special qualities like Alshon’s do. I think this is yet another of those BR reaches where they hire hacks to churn out and say anything.

    • BillW

      Russell is already a star except for one bad throw.

      Oh. They meant OUR Wilson?

    • “Marquess Wilson had a promising rookie year…”

      yeah, those 2 catches were really something.

      Look, I’m not writing the guy off. But I’m not expecting anything from him either. A much better breakout candidate would be Christian Jones. Or Kyle Fuller.

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