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The Draft Day Cometh!

| April 30th, 2015

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As with every NFL Draft, DBB will be here provide information on every Bears selection just minutes after each selection is made (at least for the first five picks or so). Here are a few thoughts in the lead-up to tonight’s festivities:

  • I predicted Monday the Bears would take Amari Cooper with the seventh pick. Still believe that will be the pick if Cooper is on the board. But when I asked an NFL scout friend of mine if Cooper will be on the board at seven he responded with a swift “hell no”. (He believes Cooper may very well be the best player in this draft.)
  • John Fox is a run the ball, stop the run guy. That’s why I believe the Bears covet Danny Shelton more than they’re letting on. Leonard Williams may have more upside in the pass rush department but my friend believes Shelton will be a premiere run stuffer the second he touches the field. (I agree with him.)
  • Two names that have come to the forefront of “the mocks” over the last few days: WR Kevin White and CB Trae Waynes.
  • From Patrick Finley in the Sun-Times: “Just because the draft is deep at a few positions — namely, wide receiver and edge rusher— doesn’t mean Pace would hesitate to draft a player from that group in the first round.” This is a point that can’t be reiterated strongly enough. “Deep” draft means nothing. Nobody knows how any of these kids are going to perform in the pros. We’ll know how deep this draft is at a particular position in three years. Never pass on a player you perceive to be elite.

See you tonight. Breathe today, draft nerds. Never forget to breathe.

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  • Trac

    Ha! There is one that is coming who Jordon Mills will not be worthy of holding his jockstrap.

    • Big Mike

      I don’t not like Jordan Mills. When he was healthy in 2013 he was good. He’ll have a nice career. If a former starter who is young, becomes your swing tackle are you worse off? No. You’ve improved your team.

      • He was also like a 4rth rounder. He’s already been more productive than Shea, Hardin, Rodriguez, Greene, Ego, Sutton…

        • Big Mike

          I thought he did a fine job. I like Jordan Mills. My point was if you’ve improved the line so much that I guy like Mills is your swing tackle, you’ve done well. BTW he was a fifth round choice. You can’t put Ego and Sutton in the category with those other guys. Both had good rookie campaigns given the defensive scheme and complete meltdown of the coaching staff.

  • Trac

    After watching Paces presser yesterday, I’m very confident he ‘will not” reach for a player not graded high enough to justify the pick. He really sounded confident and I loved his warm confidence that he displayed in the presser. I really like this guy.

    • Waffle

      he reminds me of Cam from Ferris Bueller

      • Irish Sweetness

        Let’s hope he’s not Ferris Bueller …

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Unlike his history of Saints reaches.

      I need facts, not PR.

      • I think we all know who was running that war room (payton), but yeah, it’s not like the Saints have been killing it in the draft.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          If he counted zero, how come he was hired ?

          I don’t blame him, but you also can’t ignore info like that.

    • Irish Sweetness

      That’s like saying he has no confidence in his selections, isn’t it? That means he’ll draft a guy he doesn’t want instead. Danger Will Robinson!

      • Trac

        Nah! I expect a beast on board tonight.

  • Viva

    Schreff me.

    • Big Mike

      I typed what i wrote just above your comment, without even seeing your comment. Here’s an SI article about this guy

      http://mmqb.si.com/2015/03/11/2015-draft-brandon-scherff-iowa/

      • Viva

        Great read, this guy will make every facet of our O better.

        • Big Mike

          The line is the gift that keeps giving. Give an average QB time and a running game and he’s all of a sudden very good.

      • GPLDAN Trades Down

        He’s country strong!

        • Big Mike

          doofus haircut when he was in HS.

  • Big Mike
    • Viva

      Imagine that dude Schreff pancaked being Charles Woodson 3 years ago.

      • Big Mike

        His run blocking is beyond text book. You don’t put it in the text book, because 999 out of 1000 big guys can’t set up in front of LB, let alone a DB lock on and drive. I watched Long’s college tape over and over because I couldn’t believe the Bears took a guy who started 4 D1 college games. I was trying to see what they saw. This guy’s run blocking tape is far and away better than Long’s. He did it against top competition as well. The DE /OLB from Nebraska who is a top 15 pick this year, Randy Gregory – got his ass whooped by Scherff.

        • Irish Sweetness

          After hearing that, you have to think we’re seldom in the position to draft the top tackle/guard. Coupled with that is that he’s probably the safest bet to produce early than anyone in the top ten. I’d rather build a line than build a receiving corps for a guy that isn’t accurate anyway.

          • Big Mike

            A good line is the gift that keeps giving. Average QB’s, become good. Good QBs become great. With time and a running game Cutler will be very accurate and will be a top 10 QB. His bad Jay moments are almost always under duress, either by being 2-3 scores down, or getting chased on every single play, because his HC was a moron and passed about 70% of the time

          • Irish Sweetness

            All true. But we watched him, just the same, behind lines with time to throw, two great targets in BM and AJ, Forte out flat, all covered, and he’d still force it in there and kill the drive. It’s those moments I don’t trust him to be able to change.

            I hope you’re right, and we’ll find out by mid-season, but It’s when he is who he is that he’s dangerous. To us.

          • Big Mike

            When he has time, he’s good.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But even when he has time he still won’t throw it away. He’s got this demon on his shoulder saying “Fukkit! Throw it! Throw it!”

          • Big Mike

            You’re not wrong. I’m just being very positive today.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Yeah, someone must have kidnapped his angel that tells him to throw the ball away.

  • GPLDAN Trades Down

    Helton Shelton

    When you get to the bottom you back to the top of the draft then you turn around and go for a ride

  • Irish Sweetness
  • Irish Sweetness

    Fox seems like a Shelton guy. He might just want to make the statement pick in the middle of the DL.
    If we don’t go tackle of either kind, then I hope he picks his top corner and grabs McKinney in the second. Yeldon in the third would be nice. Lanky receiver in the fourth.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I want to be blunt or purpose here.

      Fuck the type of player that’s Fox’s mold.

      The true and ONLY questions is this: “Is player X a Fangio type of player ?’

      Remember… they’re nothing alike on player type. Fox and Fangio. So..no.. Shelton isn’t a type of player the Bears should draft… at a first view.

      Think Justin Smith-Ray McDonald.

      • Irish Sweetness

        To be honest, whenever I mention a player, I mean who POX thinks is the best player at that position, because I don’t know these guys other than highlight reels, which don’t how you how they loaf. Armstead might be the highest guy on their list. Jalen might be higher than Trae. Their scores might be higher than the DL guys.

        Nothing will make my semi disappear quicker than seeing/hearing we drafted a fucking receiver.

        We just broke up with Brandon and we’re jumping in bed with the first piece of fluff int he first draft afterwards? We have nothing to offer the guy. Two solid guys on the OL for a gun-slingin’ cowboy under center who doesn’t give a fuck ? Any WR would be wasted, versus a solid OL or defensive pick.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Yes, but if they draft a D player he’d better be a Fangio type of player.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Mayock’s first, last, only mock has the Bears taking Waynes. He’d carry my two dollars, so that means we ain’t pickin Trae Waynes. (Cooper goes to the Raiders). I think POX goes with Shelton or Waynes though. Hope we trade down!

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts/mike-mayock/270801

    • NewBearInTown

      We just had a lousy season. I’d like to cheer for my team during the actual games for a change.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’ll sit through a lousier one if it puts the cherries on our superbowl pie !

    • Scott W.

      Cutty-to-Tennessee….yes, this. Mariota to Chicago. Definitely this.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Insanity. He’s the type of CB Fangio dislikes the most.

      PS: There will be no CB high picks. That’s set in stone. Wake up. Move on.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Then the next guy up if they think he’s better, Jalen sounds better. These guys are being paid gazillons, yet a lot of hope is resting on us drafting a guard?

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I’ve promised a permanent auto ban from the blog if the Bears draft a CB at 7.

          • Trac

            No worries Barb. I will pardon you my son.

  • Irish Sweetness
    • GPLDAN Trades Down

      Collins done left Chicago…he headed to New Orleans…..

  • Irish Sweetness

    From NFL.COM:

    “Kevin White doesn’t think he’ll slip past the Bears at No. 7 . Apparently his meeting with team brass was encouraging enough for him to say as much on Wednesday.”

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      He’s one of the 2 names the Bears are after. My opinion obviously, but that goes a long way. hah

      • Irish Sweetness

        Leonard and Bud ?

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Beasley and Dupree.

  • BearDown100393

    The best part of the draft is when it ends. No more mock boards. No more Mel Kiper. No more inner turmoil and anguish over events that cannot be controlled. No more sensationalistic media reports designed to simply screw up the lives of players who entered it. The end. Move on to better business such as workouts, training camp and roster building. This is Pace’s first draft. I have to trust that he and John Fox will acquire the players they feel necessary to build this roster. We get the easy part. And that is to second guess. I wish these guys best of luck.

    • Irish Sweetness

      No, then it’s training camp, when Kevin White drops a pass from Jay Cutler in the endzone and spawns 10 ‘articles the next day about how POX has screwed the pooch drafting a receiver in the first.

      Looks like Black Uni won’t be there to throw Fuller on his head again.

      • Big Mike

        Kevin White would be a great choice. Lots of great choices. I’d prefer Scherff. I’d prefer trading back and still getting Scherff. But White is a top 10 talent based on every mock draft and expert out there. WRs are a gamble. Probably 2nd only to QBs. While the world flips out over MM vs JW, there is a real possibility the best QB from this draft isn’t one of those 2 guys. If they trade Black Uni, they need to get a ton back. Otherwise they have him locked up for 2 years. He has no leverage.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Yeah, I’d nearly expect Petty or Mannion to do better than the hype-ees.

          If it’s a character thing, then a better player in Marshall went for peanuts. If Uni is traded, I see no better than a 5th in return for him. He wants a payday.

          • Big Mike

            Bennet doesn’t have a choice in the matter. He’s under contract. All he can do is hold out. Which ultimately hurts his value.

          • Irish Sweetness

            What odds a Forte/Uni firesale ? Even Cutty?

            Has Pace got the Costner movie playing in the back of his mind? He’s young and dumb enough ….

        • SC Dave

          If you want scherff, why not just take him?

          • Big Mike

            I would take him at Scherff at 7 all day. I was just saying if the Pace thinks he slides to 12 and someone wants to offer him a swap plus a pick, I’d be even happier. Same way I’d be happy if any of the top 5 guys or so on the Bears’ draftboard would be available later in the draft and we could trade back and nab them.

  • Shady

    No draft day pick contest this year? How’s about a chat room?

  • Waffle

    i was wondering about the safety from Alabama that is not Landon Collins. My SEC buddies were talking about him the other day and think he’ll be a steal in the later rounds.

    • Viva

      Yeah I heard about him too. His name is Brandon Schreff and he is currently a Hawkeye.

      • Viva

        Plays on the OLine. Mauls dudes like its fucking cool. Meaner than a rattlesnake. May tell Cutty to pull his head out of his ass (when pertinent).

  • GPLDAN Trades Down

    Jeff twixes: Either you start over or you don’t.

    Which is why a Cutty deal may still be there.

  • Scott W.

    Draft Marcus Mariota tonight. Give Tennessee whatever it takes to make that happen.

    I don’t care if we go 3-13 this year. We need a franchise QB, and by all accounts, no one is going to be as talented as Mariota in next year’s draft – which is a year late anyway to develop our future.

    We’re just 6 slots low from getting him. Do a deal, bring him to Chicago, where he belongs, and let the future begin.

    • Viva

      I think Tampa will take MM, Scott. Lovie doesn’t need a QB who threw 18 picks last year, when he can get MM, who threw 14 the last THREE years. If he learned anything about the way his teams can thrive in this league, it’s that.

      • Scott W.

        I have feared that same scenario for a couple of weeks now. I’m hoping Lovie will listen to his inner-reclamater, and with great empathy, draft Winston to “save him”. That’s really my only hope that we have a shot.

        If that happens, though, I wonder how far Winston will fall.

        • Irish Sweetness

          If he falls to 7 I hope to Christ we trade down. That is all.

          • Big Mike

            I don’t want to trade up for Winston or MM. There will be someone to take next year. We need more picks, not fewer.

            Also… Cutty’s going all Kurt Warner on us and having a revitalization of his career starting this year. Everything is beautiful, Trestman’s not our coach. We have both a strong leader, with a proven track record of a HC, a top 5 DC and a rising star OC. Tell me when that’s ever been the case for the beloved. Good things will happen this year.

            I’m trying to believe this. It’s football Christmas and the only thing that can spoil it is hearing, “In a surprise move the Bears select ….” No surprise moves. No trying to outsmart anyone.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I wish he was Kurt, who threw for 41 TDs and 13 INTs in his second season, almost winning a superbowl.

            Elway’s tenth year was his turnaround, so may it be for Cutty. Wouldn’t bet on it though.

          • Big Mike

            Not betting on it. But I’m wishing it. 🙂

          • Scott W.

            Who? Who of that caliber is going to be there in 2016, Mike?

            I asked that very question yesterday, and the options were no where near MM’s level.

            I think that’s just putting off one of the most important decisions a team makes, for the most important position on the entire roster.

          • Big Mike

            I don’t know, I hadn’t heard of MM until mid season.

          • Scott W.

            Ever watched him play?

            NFL raw, unreal instincts and vision. Best I’ve seen in a while. Very few college QB’s impress me. He just has it.

          • Big Mike

            Not live, but yes. The better parts of two games and the two playoff games last year.

    • Irish Sweetness

      The only thing about your second sentence I’d change, Scott, would be that ‘that’ refers to the destination for Jake, instead of the arrival of a massive dice-roll. Drafting him at 7 is one thing, moving up and out of these two drafts for the guy …. especially when we’re into Jay Cutler for two years … makes no sense to me.

      Build the team around – and in spite of – Jay, then let him get back to his man-bag collections and parenting photo-shoots.

      Question : Does Lovie have the sand to move out of first and dodge a bullet? Are the Raiders still sporting the Al Davis spirit enough to move up for another super-bust at the QB position ? The Jets have some great receivers now – thanks to us – how about Gang Green going all-in and allowing Lovie to stack his defense?

      • Scott W.

        I think Cutler, if he isn’t traded tonight, is in his last year as a Bear. I think he’s gone for 2016, as his salary cap hit is a lot more easily sacrificed then.

        For that reason, I’d sell half the farm to make him a Titan tonight, and snatch up MM. Give him a year to learn, then get him on the field in 2016.

        We do lousy this year, we will have lots of draft picks for next.

      • Scott W.

        David Fales will be a career backup, or a McCown type journeyman later.

        He is not a franchise QB. Ever.

        The jets just might want Winston. He’d fit with Ryan’s philosophy just dandy.

    • Big Mike

      Nah

      • Scott W.

        I posted 3 scenarios last night…offensive line, defense, or MM.

        Overall, I’m good with the first two, it makes us better NOW.

        But I think Mariota can be our future, and make us damned good later. Dismiss it as nonsense if you believe otherwise, but it makes more sense to me to look past this year, the post-Cutler years, and be good for a long, long time.

        • Big Mike

          If he’s there at 7, the Bears are likely to be on the receiving end on some pretty good offers. I’d take the picks. Like Cleveland’s 2 first rounders for our first. The cost of moving up will rape us for years, at a time when we need a lot of talent.

          All of this for a guy who is not the 2nd coming of Andrew Luck. No matter how much hype you read about MM, it’s not only a crap shoot, but a HIGHLY leveraged crap shoot, where failure is a 2-3 year long nightmare. (no picks) If we only need a game manager to win with Fox, Gase, Fangio. Toss Clausen out there, or take a 2nd rounder.

          But the trade up first rounder argument will shake my confidence in this regime to the core. By Monday however, I would be thinking.. ok. they really, really, really must know something about MM.

          • Scott W.

            Yeah, rationally, I know it’s a gamble, and on my part, a wild guess based on gut feel – a gut that’s gone beerless for several years.
            So at the end of the day, I’m just a fan who doesn’t even know the macro shot, let alone the big picture. ..

            So, as a dumb fan, I’m rooting for MM because I actually think he IS the 2nd coming of Andrew Luck. Or better.

            It’s why the Bears played paper airplanes with my resume for GM.

          • Big Mike

            Here’s what my reaction would be if the Bears swung a deal for Mariota. Aww crap, what are they doing. Damn it, Damn it, Damn it. Wait… Our guys just pulled of a BIG BALLS move. BEAR DOWN!! We just drafted the best QB of the decade :). Then, we have to sit and watch it unfold…

  • GPLDAN Trades Down

    Remember when we were collectively bummed we didn’t get Chance Warmack?

    Now? Not so much.

    • Viva

      No. No I don’t.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      That draft was full of Joe Thomases, Jake Longs and Marshal Yandas.

      They’re all bums. High alert on high draft OL without obvious elite traits.

      • DaBearsBlog

        Did you just call Joe Thomas and Jake Long bums?

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          No. The 2013 numerous OL high picks. 4 OT and 2 G in teh first 12, 13 picks.

          Instead the best 2 ended up being the raw labeled OL the Chargers and Bears drafted later in the 1st.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            # 1 Eric Fisher
            # 2 Luke Joeckel
            # 4 Lane Johnson
            # 7 Jonathan Cooper
            # 10 Chance Warmack

          • GP and I were talking about this in the other thread, and I mentioned that the “bust” rate (though it’s still too early for some) of WR and OL has seemed to switch. Where once top WRs busted at a high rate, now it seems that “lock” OTs are busting at a high rate.

            And many of those, esp Fisher, Joekel and Cooper (we can add Kalil to that) were graded MUCH higher than Scherfff or any other linemen in this draft, even described as “generational”.

            And the common “draftnik” to a certain extent must rely on the real scouts with Olinemen cuz outside of QB, that might be the hardest position to examine and project. It’s not as if cameras are gonna zero in on the trenches when big plays happen.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            That’s why I trust PFF especially on the trenches play.

            I agree with you. I personally don’t trust the ‘experts’ on college OL.

      • Waffle

        Jesus Barb.

    • He’s not a bad RT/OG. He’s always been projected as a road grader who will have to learn to shuffle his feet for pass pro.
      But getting Long was a hit (though perhaps Warford in the 3rd would’ve been better “value”).

  • GPLDAN Trades Down

    NFL show states Bears have eye on this guy for the 3rd or 4th round:

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/anthony-harris?id=2552579

    • Irish Sweetness

      Well, I’ve got his new nickname if we draft him. A few in fact : Bones. Skinny m*therf@cker. Eritrea Harris. Dead Man Walking / The Walking Dead etc. (he’s 6’1, 182)

      And the winner is ….. Slim Pickins !

      • SC Dave

        I like slim… lots of pickins would be good

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    I think the pick at 7 might be Waynes, which would suck balls.

    • Big Mike

      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO That would be the “in a surprise move”… That I have nightmares about.

    • Big Mike

      You should be banished for saying that.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        LOL, it could just be a smokescreen. But Patrick Finley reported that neither Scherff nor Shelton, L. Williams, V. Beasley visited Halas Hall but Waynes did. White did too but he might be gone at 7. Like I said, reading that shook me a little. Could just be a smokescreen but still…

        • Irish Sweetness

          Cornerbacks have huge salaries though, makes more sense to get one in that sense since you’ll be saving money on his salary for a few years instead of drafting a NT, and paying him less. Does that make sense?

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        He should get a prize. That Wayes is a liability. That’s bad on it’s own, but what makes it worse is that he’s the opposite of the ideal Fangio CB.

        From bad to worse.

        • DaBearsBlog

          If the Bears draft Waynes it will be with Fangio’s guidance. They aren’t going to draft someone who doesn’t fit their defense.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Of course. And that’s why no way in hell the Bears draft Trae Wayes. Actually they will not draft DB in the first round.

        • Big Mike

          No prize, unless it is for worst thought of the day.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            I’m not so sure that my comment was the worst of the day. I mean you have some suggesting that we take a guy in the top 10 who will have to be converted from his collegiate position to a brand new position in the pros because “he’s mean as a rattlesnake” and because he pancaked a white, 5’10” 165 DB on a highlight reel. He may be an elite run blocker, but when you can’t have major pass pro issues in a passing league. Even if the Bears plan on running the ball 52% (which would put them in the top 5 of the league) they still have to throw 48% of the time. You can’t have a liability in pass pro like that, who says that just because you shift him to G his pass pro issues disappear. Plus you then have to move a pro-bowl RG to RT with no guarantee that he’ll be able to handle that transition. Plus if Scherff has to transition from RT to RG, why couldn’t Jordan Mills make that move, especially if he is fully healthy now?

          • Big Mike

            Ok. You are right. The standard for a highly regarded member of this blog, however is much higher than for folks who show up on draft day and otherwise are AM radio callers.

            No offense meant. No argument being sought out. Taking Waynes feels like a surprise I could do without.

            Based on my evaluation of Brandon Scherff, he looks like a better player than my favorite Bear Kyle Long. I’ve been evaluating and coaching o-line play for at least a decade. Not an expert, but more in tune with what the big guys do than most. I am also extremely biased to want to take a big ugly in the first round.

            I also think you agree that picking Waynes at 7 “would suck balls”.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Agreed, I hate him as a player.

  • Big Mike
  • NewBearInTown

    Upon further consideration, I think the biggest realistic surprise tonight would be the Bears staying at 7 and drafting Todd Gurley. Some people say he’s the next Adrian Peterson, and if you have a crystal ball telling you that you run to the podium to make the selection. If Pace believes its true, he won’t hesitate.
    But man, I can imagine the noise on this blog if that happens.

    • Big Mike

      Shut your mouth.

      • Waffle

        haha, no RB please.

        • Big Mike

          Not in the first round..

    • Irish Sweetness

      Rather a back than a receiver! If we’re going to be running the ball then we’ll be needing more than one back. If they think he’s all that, then go for it.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      It wouldn’t be the first time when Pace was part of a RB reach.

      The Saints gave the Patriots a 1st round pick for the rights to draft RB Ingram. The Patriots turned that pick into Chandler Jones.

      • NewBearInTown

        That’s an interesting comparison.

  • NewBearInTown

    A last minute poll. Take the player you consider to be the greatest quarterback of all time (Peyton, Brady, Montana, whatever). Imagine that guy is in this draft as a rookie and that you (Bears GM for a day) and Tennessee are the only ones who know it, but you know it as a certainty. What is your best offer to Tampa Bay to make that trade?
    I would basically tell Tampa “you tell me what you want.” But I think the right package would be something like: this year’s #7, our second rounder, next year’s first and third, plus Cutler or any other player they want.

    • Irish Sweetness

      If TEN knows that he’s Joe Montana, then they’re not taking your trade. You might sell out two drafts for Joe. ‘How much do you want?’ is where I’d start too. In fact I think a fair price would be three drafts.

      • NewBearInTown

        In my hypo, TEN knows, Tampa doesn’t. Tampa is in the same place they are right now with Winston and Mariota.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      If he’s that type of QB, the Titans will not trade him to you.

      A 1st, a 2nd and a 3rd is cheap.

    • Scott W.

      I think your offer is exactly what I’d do. Unless I could get away with throwing in Bennet instead of next year’s third.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Think all of you misread the question. You would be jumping into Tampa’s spot at #1 (thus leapfrogging TEN). So essentially what would you give TB to jump to #1 for Brady/Manning with the assumption that you have a crystal ball and KNOW he’s going to be a 1st ballot HOF’er.

      • Big Mike

        For a sure fire 1st Ballot HOF, you trade all your picks

        • NewBearInTown

          Wouldn’t be enough to trade this year’s picks. You need at least next year’s #1 as well. But you also have to consider Johnny’s point that you don’t want to get the guy killed cause you’ve got no line, no receivers, no defense, no running game. So you don’t trade every pick for the next three years.
          What’s the middle ground? What’s the max offer? That is the question.

          • Big Mike

            for a guaranteed HOF QB, I’d trade all of next years as well.

    • willbest

      Why wouldn’t Tennessee just trade up? They could get it for this year and next year’s first and maybe this year’s 3rd

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Yeah but if you (as Bears GM for a day) come in with 3 #1’s and a 3rd on the table. 1 1st rounder (from TN) does nothing.

        • willbest

          Sure it does. If you are TB and you don’t think the next Peyton is in this year’s draft you still get the guy you really want this year if you take TN offer. If you take the Bear’s offer you are unlikely to get who you really want.

          What’s more is you have to factor in where each team is likely to be drafting next year. Recent history has the Bears drafting higher than TN. So TN’s first rounder next year is worth more than the Bears.

          Adding a 3rd first rounder is basically like asking for a pair of 16th picks once the law of averages starts taking over.

          Would you rather have 2nd and 10th (2016), or 7th, 13th (’16), and 19th (’17)

          • NewBearInTown

            Bottom line Will is that there is some amount that Tampa would take that’s more attractive than one extra first rounder from Tennessee. Maybe its two year years worth of firsts (like Washington), maybe its a player (Jeffery, Forte, etc), probably its a combination of both.
            I agree Tennessee has a bit more ammunition, but what’s your best shot to try to make the sale?

    • I would go by the chart, though I haven’t even peeked at how much that would cost. It would probably mirror the RG3 deal and then some, making the later round picks all that much more crucial

    • Waffle

      each one of those guys played with and were surrounded by any combination of the following: Hall of Famers, Pro Bowlers, All Pro’s, historic running attacks, Coaches that invented offenses, Hall of Fame coaches, Stifling Defenses…..etc.
      Team Game.

      • NewBearInTown

        So you wouldn’t trade up?

        • Big Mike

          no

        • Waffle

          Never my friend. Even this past year Seattle beat Green Bay in the NFC title game with Russell Wilson throwing 4 brutal interceptions. They won because their D was stifling, GB couldn’t stop the Read Option/Run Game and because GB has been relying on one guy for too long and it’s not a recipe for consistent post season success.

  • Shady

    Pace says there are 7 guys he would be happy to draft, so staying put at pick #7 would be fine with him. Assuming he’s telling the truth…. Which 7 do you think he has in mind? Can you come up with 7 guys you’d be happy to get at #7? I’ve got about 5:

    Leonard Williams
    Fowler Jr.
    Cooper
    Scherff
    White
    Beasley
    Shelton

    There are some other guys I wouldn’t mind pianist of this group, but this is my top 7. I’m not sure if Pace has a QB in mind as part of that 7, but I sure as hell don’t.

    • Irish Sweetness

      If that’s the order he likes them in, then we’re getting Scherff.

    • My guess?

      Winston
      Mariota
      Williams
      Fowler
      Cooper
      White
      Peat

      I don’t think Beasley, Shelton or Scherff are in their top 7.
      As a matter of fact, those guys may fall more than some ppl think.

  • Morning, biatches! Top 3 guys I think the Bears are targeting.

    OT Peat.
    WR Cooper /White
    CB Waynes or perhaps “surprise” CB like Peters/Johnson

    Dark Horses…

    HB Gurley
    DL Armstead

    In the later rounds

    QB Bryce Petty

    • Waffle

      so….. your top 3 (eight) guys you think the Bears are targeting…..

      • Yes, according to my math.
        Peat might be a lil surprise, but LTs are always pushed up the boards.
        Cooper/White are practically one guy. Who ever falls.
        with Waynes/Peters/Johnson, not sure exactly who the new regime would prefer.

        The dark horses are just that. I don’t think they’re targeting them, if I had to make a bet, but it wouldn’t surprise me. Gurley cuz he might be the best player in the draft period, and Armstead cuz he might be the one with the highest “upside” while fitting a need and Fangio mold.

        • Waffle

          Just don’t draft a white safety or anyone from Boise State….. unless they were kicked off of the team for killing someone in practice in the Oklahoma Drill.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I seem like a broken record. It’s pretty tiering , so after this post I’ll stop doing it on the subject.

      CB Waynes and CB Johnson are liabilities in more that one area.

      Trae Waynes, Michigan St.
      Signature stat: Missed a tackle once every 8.3 attempts.
      Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest
      Signature Stat: Missed a tackle once every 5.1 attempted, tied for the ninth-worst of all draft-eligible cornerbacks in this class.

      If you can’t tackle you can’t play for Vic Fangio.

      • I can see that. And he’s a Wayne is a little light too.
        I wonder about Peters. Many see him as better as a football player, but his character is highly questionable.
        We’ll see.

  • As excited that I am about the draft, I also feel a little trepidation. This is POXs first draft. After Angelo/Lovie, Emery/Trestman, I have a bit of inborn skepticism and PTSD.

    This draft will give us a sneak peak as to the direction the beloved are heading for the next 3 seasons+ of our Bears’ life.

  • Scott W.

    Draft procedure question….really don’t know….

    If a team in a position to grab another team’s coveted pick knows those teams want it, can or do they call their GM and offer deals, instead of the suitor going after the pick-holder?

    • On draft day, esp in the first round, everyone is calling everyone. It’s a madhouse.
      That’s what makes it exciting.

    • NewBearInTown

      Pace said he has reached out to all six teams ahead of us and several teams below us to put out feelers. If he feels like he’s in a position to grab the Jets’ preferred pick at #6, he won’t wait for Washington to call him.
      But, as I mentioned last thread, most of these deals are at least preliminarily sketched out ahead of time. Pace mentioned that he uses a chart with four different scores for each pick based on different systems used throughout the league.
      Emery, apparently, was pretty faithful to the Jimmy Johnson chart. If Pace called Emery, Pace would structure an offer based on that chart.

      • Waffle

        I can’t see him jumping to 5 though unless leonard Williams drops….but I can’t see Washington passing up that chance to get him either.

        • If they like Peat (or Scherff or other LT they really like) then they might do it. They could trade back to #7 and pick up the best LT/OT available and pick up a 3rd.

          They’re not exactly a well run organization, and they’re trying to protect the massive investment they made in RG3 . I can def see that happening, or even swooping up the top CB on their board which should also be available at #7

        • NewBearInTown

          If you can imagine us trading down, you can imagine them trading down as well.

      • Scott W.

        Got it. Thanks.

  • Viva

    Draft Dave Toub.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    There are rumors being thrown around (by Rapoport) that Saints may take Bryce Petty in the 1st (my assumption would be at #31). If that’s the case can we really blame Pace for being a serial reacher or do we say that Loomis and Payton are guilty and we have no idea what Pace will be like?

    • Waffle

      i’d venture to say that Petty will be a better pro than Winston. Winston was a turnover machine on a stacked Seminoles team. Petty has to be shaking his head.

      • I also think Petty has a good shot of winning the “David Carr” award. A late first/early 2nd who performs better than those before him.

        I also think he was a lil inj last year, if I remember correctly.

        • Waffle

          ironically, he’ll be drafted to a team that has more pieces in place which will in turn increase his chances for success. I’m not saying he’ll be successful but i’m about 85% sure that Winston has a 65% chance of sucking balls.

          • Big Mike

            Winston is going to be fine. TB is going to be a team to deal with in a couple years. You watch.

          • Waffle

            time will tell.

          • Big Mike

            Lamest comment possible on draft day. 🙂 Also, one that is 100% true, but would take all the fun out of the day. Every single thing, said by every single person, expert or otherwise, on the topic of great pick, terrible pick, has no validity.

            It is great fun to speculate. But only time will tell.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

  • I think Kiper’s “final” mock has the Bears selecting Scherff (and calling it the first “surprise” pick).

    Kiper tends to go by more of what he hears than what he think in his mocks. He’s connected, like a legoheaded wiseguy.

    • Big Mike

      I like Scherff. Scherff’s up

    • BillW

      Since JWood posted the results of mock draft “awards” I realize the issue. These guys are judged by guessing what happens, not what SHOULD happen. For example, someone guessing the Bears taken McClellin would have been right – and got the maximum 3 points. Even though he clearly was not worth a first round pick.

      A guy predicting Ryan Leaf not being a first round pick would get no points, even though he might have seen what no one else realized – that he’d be a bust.

      So I pay no attention to anyone’s mock drafts based on that criteria. I’d rather read something like “top 3” at each position.

      And one other thought – YES; we have a GM/coach combo that knows what they are doing. It’s been a while, but this draft will be fun because I feel we can trust the BT even if we get a head scratcher.

      Dan Hampton was a head scratcher at the time.

      • the point of the mock is to try to get a feel for what will happen. At least in terms of what you’re talking about.
        So they look at guys who are most accurate predicting what will happen.

        • The problem with most mocks is that few include trades.
          The few that I’ve done included trades. It’s pointless otherwise. Might as well just have a big board if you don’t include trades, IMO.
          Depending on draft class, team needs, etc There’s usually

          2-3 trade ups into the top 10
          2-3 in the teens
          2-3 in the 20s, usually in the late 20s with teams trying to snatch up QBs

          Typically between 6-9 trades ups/down in the 1st, if memory serves.

          I used to make a reasonable guess who trade up for whom, and voila, mock city.

          Of course everyone is wrong because teams do their best to conceal and mislead everybody trying to guess.

          It’s like trying to track down some cold war russian spy.

          • BillW

            I’d rather see a big board. I want someone’s (respected) opinion on who the best players are at each position – not someone’s opinion on what picks will be made when. Mock draft competition winners are good at predicting the picks – not the value.

  • Waffle

    Angelo would be trying to trade up….to select a white corner who projects as a safety but who could possibly slide down into the box if he slid into enough boxes of mini sliders.
    Fucking Angelo.

    • Big Mike

      But you’d also be getting ceilings and floors

    • Shady

      True. This is a good time to remind people that we now have a GM and coaches in house that can actually evaluate and develop human talent. If POX picks a player you didn’t think was top 10 material… RELAX. These guys know what they’re doing. They’ve proven as much so give them the benefit of the doubt. No more Angelo, no more Emery, there are guys running the show now who actually know what the fuck they’re doing.

      • NewBearInTown

        Meh, I heard the same about Emery. I think, outside of Shea, he actually had some decent drafts. Nothing out of the park, but nothing horrific either once that first pick was out of his system.
        Pace has the resume, but we’ll see how he does. Most likely he’ll have some ups and downs but regress to the mean. We can all hope he’s better than that, but until it happens its just that: hope.

        • Waffle

          Fangio is such an incredible upgrade. It’s exciting to think about a ferocious attacking D.

          • NewBearInTown

            Yes. That I was excited about before he ever entered the state.

        • Scott W.

          …and you know what amazes me most about your post?

          That everyone in here is reading it, validating or looking for their own hopes. That for all our amazing mental abilities, you, me, everyone is skimming and reading the comments here. Hoping. Waiting. It’s just draft day; kickoff of game 1 isn’t for another 4.5 months, yet here we are….watching the click, making picks, and hoping for everything.

          Days like this, I’m glad I’m a fan of The Chicago Bears.

      • There is zero evidence that Pace can evaluate and develop talent. There’s zero evidence that he can’t either.

        • Waffle

          Foxy and Fangio will have input and that will help this guy make good decisions.

          • we hope.

          • Waffle

            you must always have hope…and tradewinds when watching the Bears and the draft.

        • Shady

          If there was no evidence Pace could evaluate talent then Acorsi never would have recommended him to George. Developing talent falls more on Fox and Fang and they’ve obviously shown the ability to get the most out of their players.

          • And in Pace’s first draft, he might rely HEAVILY on Fang/Fox.
            Then again, he could go commando and pick whomever he wants like Al Just Win Baby Davis.

          • Pace has never run his own draft and had the final say on picks before. So you can’t make claims about how well he’ll do with it.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Acorsi ‘recommended’ Fox and at that point they needed a GM who wouldn’t have asked for decision making power.

            Fox is the true shot caller, even if they’ll most likely try and use collective effort, group decisions.

            At least that’s who I see it.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “my friend believes Shelton will be a premiere run stuffer the second he touches the field. (I agree with him.)”

    Shelton showed durability and endurance at Washington. He played something like 80% of the Huskies’ defensive snaps.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      He’d get 30-40% with the Bears in a situational role.

  • FourFeathers

    My sense is Cooper and White will be gone at #7. I expect Schreff or DuPree to be the pick

    • Trac

      I want my feather back!

  • NewBearInTown

    Jeff has Cooper off the board before 7. He has us taking Shelton, with the idea that he is the focal point of our D-line for the next 5-10 years. I have absolutely no problem with that, even if he’s more of a space eater than a pass rusher.

    • Big Mike

      Don’t need or want a pass rusher at the nose in a two gap 3-4. Those guys get frustrated. You want a space eater. That’s the only thing you want.

    • Doc Hamstring

      I’d be OK with Shelton at 7. I’d be OK with Scherff at 7. I’d be OK with Beasley at 7 (though scuttlebutt has him dropping out of the 1st round).

      The nice thing about this draft is that we pretty much can’t lose (unless JA was making the pick); at the positions the Bears need help at ASAP, there’s reliable talent. Really, whoever the Bears take–if they keep the 7 pick–should have a pretty low “bust” potential..

  • Friendly reminder while watching the draft: Cheat-Sheet

    NFP Bigboard

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2015-nfp-big-board/

  • Shady

    Anyone recognize the picture up top?

  • Does Shane Ray fall out of the 1st?
    Does Collins fall out of the 1st?
    Does Armstead fall out of the 1st?

    Which “surprise” player falls and have all the pundits scratching their collective heads? (The Rodgers Candidate)

    Who’s the first team which makes the crowd go “Whoa” “What?!”.

    Does Chip really have the balls to forfiet his entire draft(s) for Mariota?
    Do the Browns make a move on Mariota and trade Johnny?

    Who will draft the first RB taken in 3 years?

    Could EIGHT WRs be selected in the first round?

    Which team will swoop back into the late first to draft a QB?

    What team will take a chance on CB Peters, or Edge Gregory?

    Will there be a guy commonly mocked in the 2nd or later that sneaks into the 1st?

    Lots of intrigue in the draft. How is this NOT must see tv?

    • Big Mike

      Save 4 hours and read it about in 15 Minutes? I’m watching and I will be two screening it with my iPad and favorite draft sites lined up.

      • yeah, I’m watching with my “big board” print out next to me. I made a few notes on some, esp those players who half-ass it or are soft. Don’t want those schmucks on the Beloved.

    • Trac

      If you’re talking about la’el Collins then yes, I believe he will free fall. Some are speculating that unless he’s cleared of any wrong doing in the murder of his pregnant ex, he’s undraftable.

      • Doc Hamstring

        He’s Burfict 2015.

        Which means I would draft him in the 7th. If a 7th-round pick turns out to be anything better than a ST contributor, you’ve scored big. If a 7th-round pick doesn’t make the roster, it’s not a big loss.

        • NewBearInTown

          We don’t have a 7th.

          • Doc Hamstring

            NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            We could trade back in the 5th round and pick up a 7th rounder.

        • Trac

          I think he’s way more untouchable than Burfict was. Burfict dropped for skill set and character worries. If I remember correctly, most teams thought he was too slow.

          • NewBearInTown

            Its a totally different situation. Burfict had serious character concerns, but no major legal issues. This guy was a good kid until about 24 hours ago.
            Drafting Burfict was committing to a long term project. This guy is either pretty much innocent or totally off the books. You spend a late pick and don’t let him in the building until you figure out what happened.

          • Trac

            He may be Lilly White but given the current climate in the NFL, I don’t think the kid gets drafted until he is cleared. Interestingly, he nor his attorney have contacted the please after multiple attempts by the police.

      • NewBearInTown

        Wouldn’t that be crazy. First round pick to UDFA. And not just any UDFA, a UDFA that doesn’t get signed for a couple of months.

        But here’s an interesting scenario. He’s undraftable tonight and tomorrow morning there is irrefutable evidence that he has absolutely nothing to do with the murder. That means 32 teams want to sign him. There will be a bidding war.

        If I’m not mistaken, there is no rookie wage scale. That means he could come out with a better deal than he would have gotten if he were drafted.

        • I wonder how many teams have independent dicks running their own independent investigation. Hopefully, the Bears have Sherlock Holmes on the case.

        • Trac
        • UDFA sign minimum contracts for 3 years, but the signing bonus can be whatever.
          And in that scenario he would have to not be cleared until Sunday. Even then, I could see somebody taking a flyer on him in the mid-late rounds.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            There’s a max for UDFA signing bonuses, last year it was $80,362 per team. It should increase slightly but I bet it doesn’t hit 6 figures.

          • that’s right, I forgot that. Now that I think of it, I don’t know if the salary thing is the way it has to be. That’s just the way it always is.

      • Glazer just reported his agent is trying to pull him from the draft, give him time to clear his name, and then let him enter the supplemental draft.

        • Wouldn’t he be better off as a UFDA?
          Then again, might be gambling a team doesn’t draft him in the 7th for a bag of cheetos.

          • it’s about $$$. When you’re a first round pick, we’ll say he would have gone around 14th. Last year, Kyle Fuller was guaranteed about $8M for that slot.
            As a 7th round pick, you’re guaranteed about $50k and the most you can make your first 4 years in the league is less than $2.5M.
            So this could potentially cost him more than $5M.

          • NewBearInTown

            If I’m Goodell, I let him pull out. There’s no way keeping him in is better for the league.

          • dangerous precedent to let players pull out like that though

          • NewBearInTown

            I dunno. At the commissioner’s discretion, this is really better for all parties concerned.
            This isn’t a DUI, this is a murder investigation where he’s a person of interest. So many possibilities that teams can’t possibly do due diligence in 24 hours. Meanwhile, the player might get screwed for no good reason. And the PR for the league if he’s guilty?

          • Trac

            It would be a bad move on Goodell’s part. What if Monica ‘ s stained dress shows up after he allows it?

          • Big Mike

            He’s not being allowed to pull out of the draft.

          • Doc Hamstring

            It’s better for the league if he goes undrafted and is guilty.
            It’s better for the league if he drops a few rounds and is cleared–the league is vindicated for keeping him in, and future players don’t try to last-minute petition out for whatever reason.

            It’s only bad for the league if some team spends an early-round pick on him and he turns out guilty as sin, and it comes out that the league had some knowledge that he was guilty.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          I don’t think they let him at the end of the day and in all fairness, they shouldn’t.

    • Big Mike

      Also, I don’t like it spread out on 4 days. I’d like to see the 2nd and 3rd rounds back together.

  • BearDown100393
    • what else is he supposed to say there? That’s a meaningless quote IMO.

  • Big Mike

    When talking about who the Bears should pick, or trades they should execute, in the end, it all comes down to how well have the Bears evaluated the talent.

    If you could trade Forte move up 26 places from the 3rd round into the 2nd. Then trade that pick and move back to 1 spot in front of where you started and pick up a 3rd and 5th round pick this year and a 3rd round pick next year, you would be all over it, right. Great trade, great job, GM of the year, woo hoo.

    Well that’s exactly what the Bears pulled off in 2006. Thomas Jones was the back, he was traded to the Jets, the Bears moved up from 63 to 37. They then traded 37 to the Chargers for the 62nd, 93rd and 167th pick that year and the 90th pick in the next year’s draft.

    Here’s the problem. The Bears took in order with those picks Dan Bazuin, Garrett Wolfe, Kevin Payne and Marcus Harrison. That trade should have pushed the Bears over the top.

    • another big problem was that their replacement for Jones was Cedric Benson

      • Scott W.

        Understatement of the day.

        • Big Mike

          If the 3 of the 4 picks had worked out, Benson wouldn’t have been the problem.

          • Scott W.

            Cedric Benson. The useless shit we got rid of Thomas to appease….fuck him.

      • SC Dave

        And their replacement for (the clearly superior to Thomas Jones) Matt Forte would be…?

        • you hope they draft somebody who’s good. And you still don’t know what they have with Carey. But definitely same risk.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Ian Rapoport retweeted
    Shayne L. Marsaw ‏@wasram 41m41 minutes ago
    According to @RapSheet the @ChicagoBears are in contact with Titans to move up to 2nd overall to draft Mariota. #Bears #2015NFLDraft

    • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

      no way…..I seriously can’t believe they would do this…….and not sure I’d be happy about it

      • Big Mike

        For 5 minutes we’d all be WTF, boo, oh wait. Yeah!!!

    • NewBearInTown

      Watch this, Tampa Bay takes him.

      • BillW

        Oh – do I ever hope so. That will make the rest of the night better than any TV show in a long time.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Don’t shoot the messenger.

    • that was part of a tweet… 5 teams had been in touch. Doesn’t mean they’re seriously discussing it. It’s possible though.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        That’s some scary shit boss.

        • I’d be pretty shocked if it happens.

          • Scott W.

            Me too. But being shocked would be awesome.

          • Wouldn’t be the first time I get shocked in the draft.
            Maybe the Bears are due.

      • Scott W.

        Man, yer harshing my mellow…

        • BillW

          We used to say “blowin’ my high”.

      • Trac

        The #7 pick would be pretty attractive for Tennessee if they decide to trade down.

        • Big Mike

          I think they still want 3 #1s.

          • Trac

            Well that ain’t gonna happen.

        • Scott W.

          Yeah, and I don’t think they’d serve Mariota well in Tennessee. Bad choice.

      • Big Mike

        Brown are now out according to Adam Schefter. Titans are doing a good job creating a market. They want 3 #1s. Not the way for Pace to start his career.

        • Scott W.

          3 1st rounders is a lot. But an awfully lot can be done with rds 2-5.

          • Big Mike

            So obviously you are in at any cost. 🙂

          • Scott W.

            Well, almost any. I’m not trading my truck or my dog….

          • Big Mike

            Depends on the truck.. Dog, never..

          • Scott W.

            Dodge Ram….loaded and ready for whatever. Love it more than….shit, she just walked in. Gotta go!

        • Waffle

          With all of the Bears’ real needs a mortgaging of the future is simply not going to happen. Maybe when we move from 31st ranked D up to 17 or 18th.

          • Scott W.

            An argument can be made and made well that it’s an investment in the future, not a mortgaging of it.

          • Waffle

            i hear you but with so many bad years of drafting giving up so much in draft 1 of the Pace regime would fly in the face of what he just said which is 2 to 3 years of solid drafting will put the team in a position to win championships. Bears need 3 solid contributors in this draft.

          • Scott W.

            Yeah, I know. It’s more complicated than one QB, but man oh man, we will really miss out on a special one here. Seriously.

          • Big Mike

            I’m with you. Others are not.

        • BillW

          No one will give the Titans 3 #1s. Given that Jerry Angelo is out of the league.

          They priced themselves out of the conversation. But then again they probably never really intended to trade the pick anyway.

          HOWEVER, as I said before, if the Bucs take Mariota, then the rest of the first round goes in completely different directions.

          • Big Mike

            I like Winston.

    • Big Mike

      Oh my…

    • Scott W.

      BAM!!

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Well, I know where my upvote came from.

        • Scott W.

          LOL

    • BerwynBomber

      Not a huge surprise. Rumors that Pace really liked Mariota have been out there for awhile. If he is making a serious push, gotta imagine that (beyond compensatory picks) Cutty, Forte and Bennett are all available (if that is what it takes).

      • Waffle

        once again he’d be pulling an Angelo…..
        Bring in Cutler and surround him with dogshit.
        Bring in Mariota and trade away all of your offensive weapons without addressing OL.

      • Trac

        Pace made a huge deal about saying how the first thing they did in N.O. was get a QB. I think he will trade up if it’s not a raping.

        • Big Mike

          I read on twitter they want 3 first round picks. That’s steep.

        • Waffle

          Fox and Fangio may point out how they had their success…….huge, stud, pass rushing killers.

    • Waffle

      Not going to happen. If they were going to bring in Mariota they’d have kept Marshall. No way they bring in a rookie with Alshon and…….some other guys….and some white tight end….

    • Wouldn’t THAT be something? And in Chicago, no less.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    I’d still draft La’el Collins in the 7th, then keep him away until everything gets resolved. If charges are filed you can relinquish his rights before he even signs a contract. You’ll just have to keep him away from a pen and Cliff Stein.

    • Big Mike

      anything you get out of a 7th rounder is a bonus. Unless the Bears are dialed in on someone they really think can contribute, I agree with you.

    • I think somebody will take that approach by round 4 or 5 at the latest. The upside is simply too great at that point.

      • BillW

        I agree. The NFL can’t let him go to the supplemental draft (the rules specially prohibit it) and I can’t imagine him falling out completely.

        • Big Mike

          NFLTradeRumors.co
          ‏@nfltrade_rumors
          NFL Rejects LSU OL La’el Collins’ Request To Be Removed From Draft Pool http://bit.ly/1JEe0I0

          • Waffle

            Take him in the 4th round, if he was trying to get taken out of the draft they must have at least a little hope that he may get out of trouble within the next few months.

          • Trac

            Knowing what I know about the criminal mind, that’s a faulty thought. I watch “first 48”. Best Liars in the world.

          • I’ve read multiple times that the police said he’s not a suspect. But who knows if that might change. Whole thing feels weird.

          • Waffle

            lol, it’s always the ex or someone the ex hires. ain’t you never watched dateline?

          • Trac

            They often say them when trying to make contact with a person of interest. Doesn’t mean a thing.

          • exactly what I was trying to say, only you said it better.

          • NewBearInTown

            I think the rookie wage rules will make a big difference. Basically no guaranteed money in the 5th. If I’m not mistaken, the fourth round is a much bigger commitment for the team.

          • GPLDAN Trades Down

            So a guy who may have murdered his preggers EX is a guy you should take a flyer on, eh?

            As long as they can ball….. who the fuck cares, right?

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            He wasn’t being investigated for that.

          • Waffle

            haha, naw, he’s an animal, fuck him.

    • Big Mike

      NFLTradeRumors.co
      ‏@nfltrade_rumors
      3m3 minutes ago
      NFL Rejects LSU OL La’el Collins’ Request To Be Removed From Draft Pool http://bit.ly/1JEe0I0

      • GPLDAN Trades Down

        He doesn’t WANT to be drafted?

        • BillW

          He figures he can make more money waiting to be cleared and entering the supplemental draft in July. As it stands, he won’t be drafted before the 4th round (speculation by JWood – 4th or 5th) at a significant reduction in pay than if he was clear.

      • Big Mike

        No he’s the subject of an investigation as of yesterday. The though it his draft stock is plummeting. So if he pulls out and is cleared, he’s basically a rookie free agent. .

    • Waffle

      Someone will draft him and it will be well before the 7th. It will be a team with tons of picks that can squander 1 just for shits and giggles.

  • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

    Here’s the frustrating thing about the draft. It feels like Christmas in that you can’t wait to unwrap your new presents and see what you got. But unlike Christmas, unwrapping the present is only partially telling. You still don’t know what you have. So we get all amped up to see what’s under the tree, and when we unwrap the present (see who we drafted), we see an inner present that’s still wrapped. And then we’re told we will find out what the inner present is after 1-4 years. Talk about a dick-tease.

    Net Net: I look forward to the draft, but inevitably walk away feeling like nothing happened. It’s like seeing a stripper take off her panties only to reveal another fully dressed stripper. Cruelty incarnate.

    • Trac

      But when your wife finds out you went to a strip joint, you can honestly tell her you didn’t see anything.

    • Big Mike

      Toys without batteries.

      • BillW

        Right – we get to see what the toy is, and what we THINK it can do – but have to wait before we can actually use it.

        • beninnorcal

          We have to pass the bill before we find out what’s in it. Is Nancy Pelosi doing our drafting?

    • huntinbare

      Strippers learned that gag from the thee stooges; Curly got a lot of play out of that vaudevillian schtick…
      The chatter is all in, and the players that have worked there whole lives to fulfill their dreams; will now cast their gaze upon the shores of lake Michigan. They will create a reality for all fans on sundays; and probably a bit of time throughout the week….I don’t know who is even coming yet to steal my attention; but I ask creation to send some players dedicated to the theory of team and live by the mantra ….if you aren’t dissolving you are not part of the solution….please send us excellence.
      May destiny provide good fortune for the Bears of Chicago.

    • Never any sex in the champagne room!
      Though there have been some exceptions…so I’ve heard….

  • Big Mike

    and.. in a game that actually matters, the Bulls travel to Milwaukee to try and close out the Bucks.

    • SC Dave

      Spurs!

  • GPLDAN Trades Down
  • GPLDAN Trades Down

    Who they need: Shelton
    Who they are flirting with: Waynes, Kevin White
    Who they will actually select: Vic Beasley
    Who the Blog wants: the white lineman from Iowa, and maybe re-draft Jordan Lynch too
    Who the blog would take if he were there: Cooper, L Williams
    Who I want: Shelton at pick 12-18 with a 2nd rounder thrown in to relieve us of Beasley.

    • beninnorcal

      I want Shelton too. An anchor for the DL. Isn’t the white guy from Iowa who they actually select, trying to out-think everyone?

      • GPLDAN Trades Down

        Trying to be smart but ending up weirdo was Phil Emery’s gig.

        • beninnorcal

          I kinda thought Angelo seemed to do that same left-field shit in the 1st and when Emery pulled it too I wondered if it was just the ‘Bear way’ or if it was some scout that keeps falling in love with randoms.

          • That first year Emery kept most of the same scouts cuz he had to.
            Could’ve been the infrastructure.

          • beninnorcal

            Yeah, I guess so. I’m just expecting the worst, some guy no one ever heard of on here like when they drafted Shea. I was pretty shocked.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Saw a LOT of Shelton out here. I would not be unhappy if he became a Bear.

  • BillW

    Latest rumor is Tampa wanting extra picks and willing to trade down. With the Eagles as the likely partner. Titans as I said talked themselves out of it demanding 3 #1s. If this happens, they are stuck taking Winston or trading down for significantly less. And again, if true, Eagles pretty much told Tenn where to go with their ridiculous request.

    Just for sheer enjoyment, I continue to hope this happens. And watch the rapist fall out of the top 10.

    • If the Bucs truly aren’t enamored with Winston or Mariota, then maybe the Bears can trade the #7, next yrs first plus Cutler to trade up for either.

      • Waffle

        fucking WINSTON???????!!!!????? A Bear???? No way my man, no fucking way. That guy is not only a piece of shit, he will suck as a pro and that would set us back a decade. Pace would be executed and Irish would never get to experience the sweet chocolate kiss of Britney P.

        • beninnorcal

          Gonna go ahead and agree with Juan-E here.

        • I’m not advocating it, just guessing what sorta deal Pace would have in place if it went down.
          I’m on record as stating that Winston will become another Cutler, and to me there’s no point in trading one Cutler for his younger Nubian Clone.

          However, maybe they like Mariota who has proven he can take care of the ball.

          • Waffle

            Winston threw 18 picks on a professional football team that just happened to be playing in the ACC. Brutal. Imagine when an NFL D coordinator is throwing the fucking house at this fuckball. It’s going to be comical.

            NFL players should sack his ass and scream YOLO every time.

          • NewBearInTown

            If Winston is a rookie version of Cutler, I would take that deal. That’s more than $30M in savings this year and next to help console us over the lost draft pick.

        • Big Mike

          Easy now. Every draft evaluator has him as a top 5 talent.

          • Waffle

            i firmly believe he is Geno Torretta.

          • Big Mike

            Wow, why?

          • Waffle

            if Torretta was a rapist.

          • Waffle

            a crab stealing rapist. haha.

      • Big Mike

        All the new rumors are simply an attempt to build the market

        • Scott W.

          Yup. Bullseye.

  • beninnorcal

    Sorry, ScottW, I don’t get the Mariota love. I could obviously be way off but I feel like he’s just a great college QB. Only time will tell, I guess.

    • Gotta respect Scotty though. At least he picks a guy and gives his rationale.
      That’s more than our Romanian brethren.

      • beninnorcal

        Definitely no disrespect to Scott, he’s got his guy and he’ll stump for him. As for Vlad, eh..

      • Scott W.

        I watched him a LOT, and there are questions about his deep ball accuracy. Maybe even arm strength, but he will improve those to a better level. He didn’t need it in Oregon’s system.
        He’s got eyes in the back of his head, and his legs move on reflex from a sack. Great on his feet.
        And…he just decides to win.

    • Big Mike

      He’s been consistent. Makes a very good case. Opened my eyes to some details. Didn’t change my mind about trading up. Toooo big of gamble at this point. But if MM is there at 7 I’d now be all over taking him. Previously that was not the case. Scott also indicated he’d be very happy with several other scenarios.

      • Scott W.

        Won’t be long now. And if Tampa takes Mariota? What a waste.

    • Scott W.

      I’ve been saying for a while, aside from the positive measurables, there is something about the kid. He’s got that unseeable gift. He’s smarter than Luck, better than Matt Ryan, and he brings a feel for the game I haven’t seen in a long time.
      I think with the right coaches, he’ll be something else, and a lot of teams will be shaking their heads.
      He’s a natural winner.

      • Big Mike

        Smarter than Luck..? That’s really a stretch. No?

        • Scott W.

          I think Luck is a better NFL QB. But Mariota is a lot smarter. A year in the right system, learning and adapting, Mariota will pass him up. No pun intended. Okay, kind intended.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Certainly a stretch before Mariota has taken his first NFL snap.

          • Scott W.

            It’s not really. He is known for his ability to literally memorize playbooks, and translate them into play faster than scouts have seen before.

          • Big Mike

            Leap tall buildings in a single bound?

          • Scott W.

            Shit…ok ok. I’ll stfu. POX has already logged off the blog anyway….

          • AlbertInTucson

            I’ll wait to be impressed.

  • Blog poll: would Irish do Sweetness’ daughter, or would he refrain out of respect?
    Yay or Nay?

    • beninnorcal

      Would.

    • Waffle

      he’d false start….

    • Big Mike

      Not

    • AlbertInTucson

      Flag! “Illegal Procedure”.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Dude, I’ve struggled with it.

  • beninnorcal

    Also, for anyone who thinks the Bears are going to trade up, I guess I’ll believe it when I see it, but history has taught me two things about the Bears trading up in the first: no and way.

    • And that hasn’t worked. Maybe they adopt the George Constanza philo.

      • beninnorcal

        I say good plan.

      • Waffle

        classic

    • AlbertInTucson

      Starting with only 6 picks is bad enough. Let’s not trade it into only 5.

  • Here’s the dilemma with Collins. Let’s say he’s drafted in the 7th. Then later arrested or found guilty.
    The GM goes up to the podium. The reporters are ready to feast. The very first question:

    “So, you were ok with the possibility of hiring a murderer who slaughtered a pregnant woman, and attempted to end the life of his own baby?”

    What’s gonna be a good retort to that?

    “The value at that point was too good to pass up”?

    I think a GM joked that the NFL would describe Hannibal Lector as having an eating disorder if he ran a good 40, but I think in this case, especially with the recent outlash and scrutiny over AP and Rice, I think teams do stay away.

    • Doc Hamstring

      “At the time of the draft, there was nothing to indicate he was even under investigation. With the best information available, he was neither indicted nor convicted of any crime. We understood there was the potential that this situation would change; however, we are not law enforcement officials, so we could not know what was happening with any investigation. In other words, he was innocent of any issues at draft time. He was the best player available on our board at numerous times in the draft process, and until [wherever he got picked], we judged the potential problems with his status to be greater than his worth to the organization. However, once our [wherever he got picked] pick came up, we determined that the potential he represented outweighed any risk we would take by drafting him. In the end, we gambled a [whatever round pick] on the information available at the time. We cannot be expected to know more than law enforcement in the midst of an investigation. Here is a list of our last 10 [whatever round he was picked in] draft picks. These players had a combined [X] starts and [Y] remain on the roster today.”

  • The dark horse rises…

    ESPN’s Todd McShay said three teams in the top-10 are considering Georgia RB Todd Gurley.
    Gurley’s stock keeps rising. Clearly teams aren’t concerned about his bill of health after missing the second half of last season with a torn ACL. Our own Josh Norris called Gurley a “foundation piece” and at least three teams in the top-10 share that opinion. The 20-year-old makes a ton of sense for the halfback-starved Falcons at pick No. 8. – Roto

    • My guess.
      Jets, Falcons and Gmen
      With maybe the Bears, esp with Forte in his contract yr.

      • Big Mike

        No, no, no

        • Many are calling Gurley the best back since AP to come into the draft.
          I think I agree. Last few years have been lack-lustre, but Gurley looks like the real deal.
          Only concern is his inj history, but AP also had some injuries in college.

          Then again, Trent Richardson was highly lauded…

          • Scott W.

            AP was also known for his near-miraculous ability to heal.
            Rare, and Gurley won’t be that.

  • Big Mike

    Watching the pre draft show some. Some big fat stupid cheesehead in full costume standing there like a doofus

    • Big Mike

      More packers jerseys on the air than Bears

      • Trac

        Kinda figured they’d be out in force.

    • Scott W.

      He’s following the cameras.

  • Big Mike

    In case anyone was wondering. Every player interviewed “is blessed” , “happy to play any position, for any team”

    • Scott W.

      LOL. copy/paste, repeat.

  • Trac

    I may not be able to get the pics in real time. Who’s gonna do the play by play? A little color would also be most welcome.

    • Big Mike

      No Twitter?

      • Trac

        nope. Im gonna try and keep up on my phone

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    Uni, Cutty, Allen, and the #7 to Tenn for #2???

    • AlbertInTucson

      I’m betting the Titans think they can do better than that for that #2.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        probably and i did not look into cap implications

        • TEN has about $21M cap room. Allen costs $12.5M, Cutler $16M, Bennett $5M.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            thanks.

          • NewBearInTown

            But Allen and Cutler both have team friendly deals that would allow them to push those dollars into later years to stay under the cap.

          • but why? Tennessee doesn’t want 30+ year old players who will help them be decent instead of terrible. They are not a team that’s a player or two away.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            teams have done stupider things on draft day. also it would get rid of our dead weight.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Wishful thinking.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            DAMN RIGHT!!!!

    • NewBearInTown

      Uni is worth Tenn’s fourth at most. Cutty is worth, probably their second and third at most. Allen is worth a seventh round pick if you’re lucky.
      Would Tenn take our first, third, fourth and seventh for #2? I think not.

  • NewBearInTown

    If the Bears move up, I predict it will be for someone other than Mariota. They’ve got another player (maybe Cooper) in mind, and that’s who they’re looking to make a move for.

    • Big Mike

      Interesting take

    • AlbertInTucson

      In a draft supposedly deep at wide receiver you move up to take a wide receiver? That doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.

  • Scott W.

    It’s his known and documented ability to grasp a whole new offense in no time, and back it up. His brains aren’t a secret. Ask his coach at Oregon what happened when he tossed MM their entire playbook, and told him he was next QB up.

  • Big Mike

    Bulls up 23 early in the 2nd quarter 41-18

    • not messing around tonight.

      • Big Mike

        Nope. Transition baskets up, crisp ball movement. Also It was one thing for the Bucks to win a 2nd game. They had ZERO pressure. Now that they think they have a chance, it’s completely different.

    • Waffle

      damn

    • AlbertInTucson

      You KNOW that means little in an NBA game.

      • Big Mike

        Better than how they have been starting out. They are playing lock down d Nd moving the ball well

        • AlbertInTucson

          True, true, but you DO see leads like that evaporate often in the NBA.

          • Big Mike

            There are usually runs both ways

  • BerwynBomber

    ESPN reporting that the two frontrunners for the Titans #2 pick are PHI and … yes .. CHI.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Ohhhh CRAP!

      That does NOT strike me as “Good” news.

      What will the Bears have to come up with in a bidding war if the other team is in the hunt from the #20 position…?

      • Big Mike

        Eagles are offering 2#1 picks a #3 there stud DT fletcher Cox and 3 more players.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Sounds better than anything the Bears dare come up with.

          • Big Mike

            Have to remember they can throw in Cutler and their first round pick is 7 not 20.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Except the report is that the Titans do not want Cutler.

      • Eagle’s don’t have enough ammo, and the Browns don’t have Cutler and the #7

        • BerwynBomber

          ESPN reporting Cutty has been offered and TENN does not want him.

          • Big Mike

            Costs more for them to take cutler

          • Scott W.

            Who can blame them (if its true, in rumor kingdom that is…)

          • BerwynBomber

            Both Mortensen and Holzman are reporting. I would be surprised if both are talking out their ass.

          • Scott W.

            Ah ok. Didn’t know the source. ‘preciate the news.

        • Big Mike

          Basedon this you might be right.

    • Big Mike

      Careful ScottW might jizz

      • Scott W.

        I gotta tell ya Big Mike, I haven’t been this antsy since my first cat shot off the carrier.

        • Big Mike

          Whoa. You did that. Holy smokes

          • Scott W.

            Yeah, and that feeling is all coming back….over a draft pick…hilarious. Love being a Bears homer!

    • Scott W.

      And now, the Bears are #1 with the negotiations…rumor has it.

  • GPLDAN Trades Down

    Holy shit Draft Town is a zoo right now guys.

    I would totally love to march in there with Waffle on my shoulders with a shaved head as Master Blaster and have him yell “Who run Draft Town??? Say it!”

  • Scott W.

    Addendum, 20 minutes from pick 1….

    He deals with trouble like it’s just the next step to where he’s going.

    He scrambles smart, and he owns the middle of the field in the air.

    He eats up good coaching, and he doesn’t rattle on the learning curve.

    He shows respect to his oline and receivers.

    He knows how to win, and he expects to.

  • Remember, you TWITS, DON’T CALL EVERY PICK B4 THE TV!!!
    Thank you, this message brought to you by the WOLF.

  • Scott W.

    I’ll be as surprised as anyone if the Bears pull off the trade, but I love em for busting ass to do it.

  • Big Mike

    55-26 bulls

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    “I understand both sides,” Forte said, via the Chicago Tribune. “And you have to as a player. Everybody likes to use the cliché saying, ‘Oh, it’s a business.’ But then when the player wants to make a business decision or treat it as a business, then he’s wrong. Or he gets pointed out as the bad guy.”

    Amin to that. Fans are idiots by definition. Put that brain to use.

    • AlbertInTucson

      People get all bent out of shape over this stuff which almost always works itself out in the end. Not work getting upset over.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        “you’re a cancer on the blog”.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Say, what?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            joke, man.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Acknowledged.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    My prediction is Vic Beasley.

    PS: I don’t know anybody else.

    • GPLDAN Trades Down

      Copycat.

  • BerwynBomber

    Gruden favors Mariota over Winston? Interesting …

    Say what you want about Chucky but he turned Rich Gannon into an MVP and Brad Johnson into an SB-winning QB.

    • GPLDAN Trades Down

      Winston had 28 turnovers last year? Damn.

      • AlbertInTucson

        18 picks.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      TB defense turned Johnson into a SB winning QB

    • Scott W.

      Long vs. Short term solution. MM Wins the long term all day long.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Lovie Smith is an idiot.

  • Big Mike

    TB takes winstin

    • GPLDAN Trades Down

      Lovie Lovie Lovie.

      • Big Mike

        It’s going to work for Lovie. I like the pick for TB. I think Bucs will be a contender in a couple years. Who gets to playoffs first TB or Chicago

        • GPLDAN Trades Down

          Chicago.

          Once I saw how Lovie handled McCown, I am convinced.

    • Scott W.

      Thank God. Still have a long shot.

    • Trac

      Thank goodness he isn’t our coach anymore.

      • Big Mike

        Yeah we wouldn’t have been 5-11 and scrapped all over our teams legacy

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          NewsFlash: He picked 1st and it wasn’t a trade.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    After Tampa Lovie Smith will NEVER be a head coach in the NFL.

    • Trac

      Barring a SB, he done.

      • Big Mike

        Lovie will coach in the NFL as long as he wants.

        • Trac

          I like the guy. Not as a HC.

    • Big Mike

      Sometimes you just say stupid things

      • GPLDAN Trades Down

        Sometimes?

        • Trac

          He’s my color commentator.

  • AlbertInTucson

    That sound you hear is that of dice rolling as the world’s largest crapshoot has commenced.

  • GPLDAN Trades Down

    That Holly gal at the NFL board with NFL.com is the hottest sportscaster I’ve ever seen.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/live?icampaign=draft-sub_nav_bar-drafteventpage-live

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    more people at titans draft party that at their games last year.

    Free food !!??

  • GPLDAN Trades Down

    MM or LW? I’m going with LW.

    • GPLDAN Trades Down

      I was wrongo.

      I gotta say, MM to the Titans just does not compute

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        they can still can trade him.

  • Big Mike

    Pick is in.

  • Big Mike

    MM

  • Scott W.

    Well, it will be interesting to see what we do at 7.

    • Trac

      Barb wants a CB.

      • Scott W.

        I’ll pass that along…

    • BerwynBomber

      I liked him too. Never was all in or as committed as you but will be interesting to see what he does.

      • Scott W.

        Yeah, I don’t know a lot about TN. coaches, I just hope they don’t ruin him early. He needs a year.

        • BerwynBomber

          Agreed. I like his overall quickness, maturity and seeming smarts.

  • Marcus to TEN.
    Bears, get Mettenberger!

    • Doc Hamstring

      You want a CONVICTED rapist? No thanks.

  • Irish Sweetness

    The fall to karma begins, Jameis ….

  • huntinbare

    Any teams between 3and 6 that are talking to the bears about a trade?

  • Big Mike

    Pick 3 is in. Bulls up 65-33 at the half. Message being sent.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      You know Tibbs wanted a 6 game series. More games the better.

  • Scott W.

    Tennessee just got a lot better. I just hope they don’t fuck it up.

    Onwards. Oline? ILB?

    • Big Mike

      Williams, Fowler, cooper?

      • Scott W.

        Man, I’m torn. I still wonder about Scherff?

  • Big Mike

    MM fact. He went to Olin Kreutz’s HS

    • Trac

      Actually, they both went to the same HS.

  • GPLDAN Trades Down

    Jags go Cooper or take LW?

  • Big Mike

    Dante fowler

  • Big Mike

    Williams Cooper. And Beasley projected 4,,5,6

  • Hope White goes and Williams falls

  • Fowler, my boy! NOOOOO

  • Big Mike

    Cooper gone

  • whoa. Cooper to da raideers
    Williams trade up?

    • Big Mike

      Just said that. Would be amazing

  • Big Mike

    I might trade uo for Williams never thought he’d be there at 5

  • Doc Hamstring

    Williams just has to get past Washington, and he can be a Bear. Top stud in the draft.

    • Big Mike

      Won’t happen. Need to trade up

      • Doc Hamstring

        One team left. It can happen.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    these mofos are already back 2 picks and they’ve not even reached pick 6.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      thats normal

  • Big Mike

    Skins need OL desperately

  • Big Mike

    Scherff

    • Shady

      Damn.

  • Scott W.

    I am glad Pace rejected whatever Tennessee counteroffered, because based on what Philly was offering, it must have been insane.

    • Big Mike

      But now we don’t get Scherff

      • Scott W.

        Yeah, crimminy…Kevin White is my next pick.

  • willbest

    So Williams or White or ?

    • Shady

      Parker or Shelton.

      • willbest

        Not going to be Shelton.

    • Scott W.

      White is my vote.

      • Big Mike

        Oh no Williams. Never thought he’d be ther

        • Scott W.

          I’ll trust you on this one. I’m slipping outta my research depth.

        • Scott W.

          Did see a piece on Williams today though. I’d sure not be disappointed.

  • wow. And williams falls

  • Doc Hamstring

    Oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck… Williams is gonna be a Bear.

  • Cmon, handle don’t fail me now…

    • willbest

      People of the Beasley wagon?

  • Big Mike

    Leonard Williams could drop to the Bears. If not Beasley is there. Will be a real tell for POX. Kevin White still on the board

    • Doc Hamstring

      Jets are gonna Jets.

      Williams is gonna be a Bear.

      • GPLDAN Trades Down

        Brandon Marshall and Kevin White

        • Doc Hamstring

          Now, if they only had someone to throw to them.

          Maybe they’d take Cutler?

      • Big Mike

        Merry Christmas. If that happens

  • Shady

    If jets don’t pick Williams there has to be a medical flag there.

    • Doc Hamstring

      No, the Jets are a train wreck. That’s all the explanation you need for Williams getting past them.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    You knew these Washington morons would crap the pouch.

    You draft in the 1st round after 3 years and it’s a Top 5 picks and you draft a RT… maybe….more likely a G…. he never played G.

    • Big Mike

      See Dallas. Scherff is a STUD

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        See Patriots and Seahawks. 3 Undrafted G started the Superbowl.

    • huntinbare

      They drafted a hog from that pigskin state…solid choice

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Fangio’s vote is Vic Beasley. I vote Fangio all day everyday. So…

    • Scott W.

      We all have to overlook your former allegiance to Phil Emery, don’t we?

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        ??

  • Trac

    The Bears need to trade down now.

    • Shady

      Who’s worth trading up for?

    • Big Mike

      Oh no. Take Williams or Beasley

      • Trac

        Jest keeding. Hahaha

  • Big Mike

    LW

  • willbest

    NOO!

    • Big Mike

      Damn

  • Scott W.

    Back to Kevin White.

    • willbest

      bleh… trade down or take Beasley

      • Scott W.

        Who would trade up at this point? For who?

  • Shady

    Obviously. Wanted Scherff but settled for best player.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Noooooo

  • BearDown100393

    No trades. Nothing fancy. Just one team after another drafting a top guy.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Damn Jets

  • Jets get Williams.

    How’s that win over the Jets feeling now?

  • Waffle

    fucking miss it by one guy every year

  • FantuzPhysics

    I just don’t believe in 1st rd WR

  • Doc Hamstring

    DAMN YOU. DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!

  • GPLDAN

    Most fascinating Bears pick in years right here

    • Scott W.

      ‘splain, please.

      • GPLDAN

        The offense/defensive split is near perfect

        White vs. Beasley. Will set the tone for this regime, which is a real regime and not a bunch of idiots

  • Big Mike

    Not bad. We can Beasley. Never thought that was an option. We will see

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    So…what do you do when you have the best IDL in the NFL ? You draft DT obviously.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Not trading down, pick is in.

  • FantuzPhysics

    Here we gooo

  • Scott W.

    Who woulda thought the 7th overall would almost be disinteresting?

    • Big Mike

      No it’s not. No SURPRISES = Good

      • Scott W.

        Good surprises are good.

  • Big Mike

    white or beasley

  • Big Mike

    white

  • Trac

    Gotta be beasley

    • Big Mike

      It’s White

      • GPLDAN

        you got it

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Kevin White

  • willbest

    damn

  • Trac

    Don’t love it but it makes sense.

    • willbest

      feels like a backup plan.

  • FantuzPhysics

    Why? Let’s ground and pound. This guy was a one-year wonder

    • GPLDAN

      He looks like the 2nd coming of Larry Fitzgerald

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        that rasta is a give away.

    • Big Mike

      No. He was a guy wiho got better every year

    • Scott W.

      No, he’s a lot more than that. He’s one I know well. This is a solid pick. He plays in my backyard. Trust me, Jay Cutler just got better.

  • Shady

    Touchdown.

  • Shady

    Can he return kicks?

    • willbest

      That guy they got half way through last season showed he could and he is still on a cheap contract.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I’ll keep my opinion. Insanity.

    A new shiny weapon for…wait for it… Jake Cutler.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      werent you going to ban yourself if we took a WR….LOL

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Of course I will.

        Try to keep your pants on.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          just fuckin with ya.. sometimes i like reading your insane shit.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            as opposed to what ?

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            getting a root canal

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I don’t speak gay.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            evidently you don’t speak english very well either because that was in no way a gay comment.

        • Scott W.

          Wait…we could trade you to the Washington boards for 3 Canadians and a rookie Spaniard….

          (Joke, Barb. Joke. Don’t reach for the lexicon).

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            really you think we could get 3 Canadians…. Makes me hope Canada will come back to the board.

          • Scott W.

            That was bait, because I know he’s lurking right now.

  • Doc Hamstring

    Without a decent trade offer, I guess White was the “safe” pick. Beasley, Shelton, Dupree all would have been good, but maybe someone similar to them will be available later.

    • Scott W.

      White is a helluva player. Cutler should kiss the ground in Chicago right now.

      • BearDown100393

        Probably watching the Bulls.

      • willbest

        I doubt White will be better than BMarsh this year, and Cutler is on life support and knows it.

        • Doc Hamstring

          He’ll be cheaper, that’s for sure. But dunno what they’ll do with the spare $$$

          • Shady

            Defense.

          • Big Mike

            Doc hell be a ton better. Maybe not individual stats but the combination of weapons will be better

        • GPLDAN

          Better than first year Bear BM or last year BM, with his shot hammy and busted foot?

          • Scott W.

            I’ve watched him a lot. If you’re going WR, you really couldn’t do better.

          • Big Mike

            Better, because he can stretch the d. Bennet, Royal and Alshon can go off

          • Doc Hamstring

            Good point. He’s got deep speed.

          • GPLDAN

            and let’s not forget BM ended his season with a collapsed lung and 3 cracked ribs

        • Scott W.

          Yeah, Cutler has 1 year left, but White can’t be compared to Marshall. He’s a faster, softer handed Alshon.

      • Big Mike

        Don’t get the negativity around White.some had him ahead of cooper

        • Scott W.

          I had him over Cooper, even on record here. He’s more. Stronger, better hands. Think Jeffrey with mad speed and route skills.

  • GPLDAN

    Unicorn is talking to the insanely hot Molly at NFL.com

    He seems pumped. Maybe an act

  • Waffle

    missing out on Donald and Williams in 2 consecutive drafts is fucked up.

    • willbest

      watta ya gonna do

      • Waffle

        throw him the rock

      • GPLDAN

        Jets will likely deal Muhammad Wilkerson now.

      • Trac

        At least we didn’t reach or draft a player with “upside”

        • Big Mike

          He actually has aroma for improvement. Like most rookies. But will star day one and looks like he belongs. They don’t have to rely on him to begin with. Just use his speed. Surprised nobody has mentioned that he is a big target
          As favored by JC

    • Shady

      I hear ya, but it’s the same for almost every team.

    • Doc Hamstring

      Fuller seems to be working out just fine.

  • huntinbare

    Humble …classy and ready to turn this city around….cool, I’m in…what’s this kids # gonna be…I feel a jersey coming on

    • Scott W.

      Yeah, White is a very classy human being. Much loved here in WV.

  • Big Mike

    90-49 at the end of three

    • Waffle

      no fucking way, are you serious?

      • willbest

        he is serious. Team looks like it might be able to handle the Cavs

      • Big Mike

        Watching it

        • huntinbare

          Did you like the hit Gianni’s layerd on Dunleavey in honor of the NFL draft

    • willbest

      So the Bulls have just been Fing around the whole series?

      • Doc Hamstring

        Or were they just super-pissed about that flop?

      • Big Mike

        Seems like they got a wake up

  • GPLDAN

    Good god can she stay after Draft Town goes?

    http://tinyurl.com/k34r5a9

    • Scott W.

      Giants fan. You get her to follow you home, buy her a Kyle Long jersey.

    • willbest

      she is Mediterranean they don’t age well.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    These NFC East clubs are stupid as shit.

    • willbest

      you mean drafting offensive line?

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        yeah…

  • Trac

    I’m just really glad we didn’t mortgage the house again.

    • Big Mike

      No surprises. Very pleased

  • GPLDAN

    The Rams have an embarrassment of defensive riches here

  • Waffle

    sorry guys, D was the pick and we could’ve gotten Beasley or Shelton…..

    • GPLDAN

      If the Rams pick Shelton here to go with Donald…. come on

    • Big Mike

      Now we are at the point where we say, POX had White very high on his board. To my eyes White makes Alshon, Bennet, Royal and Forte better than they were last year. He’s a healthy faster version of Marshall

      • Scott W.

        Yes.

      • willbest

        He might be healthy and faster, but he doesn’t have anywhere near the know how. NFL is a lot faster and harder hitting than college.

        • Waffle

          Marshall was a legit 6’4 230lb monster that was also a technician in his routes with the ability to line up anywhere on the field. He will be missed.

          • Trac

            Murph thinks white reminds him of Fitzgerald. If he adds that dimension, it was a great pick.

      • Waffle

        but we needed a D stud and 2 were available.

    • Doc Hamstring

      The defense won’t be re-built in a year. There’s still no answer at FS on the horizon. The offense is one more piece away from being terrifyingly good. White is a long-term answer on offense. There will be guys available in 2 & 3 who can help on the line. And OLB doesn’t demand the 1st-round pick.

  • AlbertInTucson

    New thread, folks.

  • Scott W.

    When is round 2?

    • Doc Hamstring

      Tomorrow.

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