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Spotlight on Coaching Candidates: John Fox

| January 12th, 2015

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Some reasons I believe John Fox should be the next head coach of the Chicago Bears.

  • He is truly a head coach, a stabilizing organizational CEO who will build a top tier, professional staff.
  • If Bears were looking to pair their young GM with a veteran coach, Fox is the ideal candidate.
  • Fox is thirty games over .500 as a head coach. He was two games over in Carolina where his best quarterback was Jake Delhomme. (With whom he went to a Super Bowl.)
  • John Fox is a good man with a ton of respect around the league and he will immediately return credibility to the Bears locker room. Credibility is something the Bears are desperate to achieve.

More to come…

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  • Shady

    Bears are going to do everything they can to hire this guy. And they should.

    • Johnnywad

      Unless he’s out for health reasons.

      • Johnnywad

        Never mind. Said he wants to continue coaching.

  • Trac

    Fox is an ideal candidate. Could very easily be a great transitional HC as we rebuild.

    • BillW

      I agreed and said the same in the last thread. Not like there are and Bruce Asians out there this time

  • JerseyBear

    He needs to be our next coach

  • AlbertInTucson

    Turns out Manning was playing with a torn quad for weeks.
    Wonder if he’s gone from Denver because he’d rather run the ball more than a certain veteran QB?

    • NewBearInTown

      Peyton Manning for HC!

  • Shady

    I know I’m going to sound like a meatball, but just look at that photo. That’s exactly what’s been missing on the Chicago sideline for over a decade. Fire. Passion. Raw emotions. Look at his assistant in the background, even he is chewing the fuck out the back judge. Granted, this was Fox before his heart attack, but as a fan I fucking lap this shit up.

    • NewBearInTown

      Meatball.

      • Shady

        Ditka. Romanian sausage. Football. Ditka.

        • SC Dave

          Meatball

          • Shady

            There you go again with the ad hominems.

    • I already nominated this coach. Surprisingly, Bears fans prefer stoic coaches.

      http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_tc5h2sf8

    • BroncofanDK

      How is that working for you?
      Sad thing is that Fox does not know what makes a good offense, and he cannot evaluate QB’s to save his soul. He was along for the ride in Denver!

  • willbest

    Fox is the hire you make if you are worried about not Fing up.

    Whether he is the right candidate is an entirely different story.

    • Trac

      You crazy.

      • willbest

        Not at all. He is like Jeff Fisher or Lovie. Builds a respectable organization that competes well, but can’t get over the hump.

    • NewBearInTown

      Fox to Chicago would look a lot like Andy Reid to KC or Jeff Fisher to St Louis. Immediately would bring in a talented staff. We would get a much better idea of where we are at roster-wise. We would become competitive against our high powered division opponents with the help of a top 10 defense. We would eliminate any prima donna stuff from our offensive talent, possibly at the expense of a player or two.
      But just like Reid or Fisher, we would not have the high octane offense that the New Orleans, Green Bay or (until recently) Denver boast. We would not necessarily be instant Superbowl contenders.
      Fox protects the organization from the free fall that Trestman created (just like he saved Denver from a mess caused by McDaniels). But he won’t put us over the top. For that, we need a star QB. Sean Peyton has Brees, Mike McCarthy has Rodgers, Bill Bellichek has Tom Brady. John Fox had Manning… what will he think about Cutler?

      • BillW

        And therefore you’d much rather hire…

      • BroncofanDK

        The foresight the Broncos had is now 20:20 hindsight.

        Fox supposedly saved Denver from McDaniels. Fun fact Fox has gone to the playoffs with 3 QB’s (or been drug there yelling and screaming). McDaniels drafted one of those QB’s, and Fox did everything he could not to start him. Foxey got fired in Carolina partly for the QB he claimed was the best QB in the 2010 draft – one Jimmy Claussen, yet when you had Cutler and his physical skills and saw that it was a major failure, Foxey did not opt to take the polar opposite of Cuddles in the QB that he had won with. Cutler has all the tools Tebow would have hoped to have, and Tebow has all the mentality that fans would hope Cutler had.

        Fox lucked into a situation and a team that carried him. In Chicago he needed to earn his keep and he cannot.

    • Shady

      In case you haven’t noticed the Bears are trying to rebuild from what became a circus. New GM. New coach. Complete overhaul. A guy like Fox is exactly what this team needs.

      • willbest

        Sure if you want another decade of Lovie. But then I thought Virginia wanted a championship.

        • BillW

          So you would rather we hire…

          • willbest

            Bevell, Quinn, Toub, or Bowles in no particular order. I think Austin was worth the interview but he only has 2 years of DC experience and only 1 in the NFL.

            You have to know when to take risks.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s got some fire in his balls, I’d give him a shot.

  • NewBearInTown

    Chicago, incidentally is very attractive to a defensive minded coach.
    We have some young talent on the D, but really nobody untouchable outside of Fuller. There are as many or as few building blocks as he may want to play with to build a great unit, including a top 10 draft pick that can pretty much go to any position we want.
    Meanwhile, the offense is more set. He can select a coordinator to work with the components already in place. He can do whatever he wants with the starting QB. He can focus his attention on the defense, which is his specialty.

    • GPLDAN

      Ego and Sutton aren’t untouchable, but are decent players with rookie contracts. Consider that you don’t hit your stride as a DT until year 3 or 4. That they held in there as rooks as well as they did mean that was a couple picks that Emery forgot to fuck up.

      • Johnnywad

        And they’re being mentored by Rat. I like the future of the middle of that line. A total badass #7 overall pick at DE could make that line formidable soon.

        • NewBearInTown

          Or take the best corner in the draft, bring in a decent veteran free safety and all of a sudden you’ve got a killer secondary. Point is, Fox gets to pick.

          • Irish Sweetness

            D-line before secondary, they’ll look better at corner if there’s a pass rush in there. Foundations must be built before the windows go in.

        • SC Dave

          We need our Kuechly.

          • Johnnywad

            Is he in this draft?

          • willbest

            The best ILB right now looks like a late 1st round prospect so he ain’t no Kuechly

          • Irish Sweetness

            Solution = suck this year as we clean out the roster, draft him in the first next year.

      • NewBearInTown

        Agreed. But if Fox comes in, nobody is telling him he has to build his defensive alignments around the strengths of Ego Fergusson.

    • It’s really a top 5 defensive pick since both QBs I suspect will be drafted 1&2.

  • CanadaBear

    Fox is a slightly smarter version of Lovie. He could pull Lovie’s pants down but when he plays against top coaches, he’s in trouble. Not saying the perfect storm can’t happen and he can’t win the SB. It happened for Dungy and he’s certainly no better than Fox.

    • GPLDAN

      He’s a DC at heart. He went out and spent Elway’s money to get Von Miller and Ware and tried to make a pressure D, and for awhile it worked. The Broncos had a bad ass D this year, but in the big game they faltered. Talib didn’t shut down, the front 4 didn’t rattle Luck.

      Marry him to a great OC and you could have a team that is disciplined and doesn’t fuck up. Compared to this year and false start city, fake kicks with 10 men, and not finalizing the special teams until week 5 – and fuck, I will take it.

      The Clown college has hit the road. I will take the Orton era Bears for 2 years while the team at least plays like a NFL team.

    • if you remove Peyton years, their careers are eerily similar.

      Fox: 81-79, 4 playoffs in 10 years
      Lovie: 83-77, 3 playoffs in 10 years

      Both defensive coaches who are way conservative and will have average teams, but rarely great ones.

      • Scharfinator

        THIS THANK YOU THIS.

        John Fox is a good, but not great coach. He is a known quantity. People should take it as they want, but don’t forget he has lost two super bowls.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Or he has reached two superbowls, depending on perspective.

  • John Doe

    Jets don’t want Quinn?? Looks like John Fox knows where he is going.

    The teams that did schedule their 2nd interviews with Todd Bowles earlier today did not know John Fox would be available later today.

    Looks to me Bears had heads up..

    Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 1h1 hour ago

    John Fox declined HC interview with Jets, per NFL source. Hard to imagine turning down one HC chance unless there’s real chance for another.

    • willbest

      Not really, its clearly a sellers market this year for coaches. Particular since he is the only one that has demonstrated long term competence at the job. He probably figures he will get one of the 5 jobs that called him up.

  • Johnnywad

    Ohio State not screwing around. How the hell could Cardale Jones have been tucked away as a 3rd QB anywhere?

    • saw a joke during the CAR/ARI game that somehow OSU ended up with a better 3rd QB than ARI did.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Meh. I don’t see the humor, JW, because WHO in the NFL has a viable #3?

        OSU doesn’t have to PAY their #3. Well, on second thought…

        For SURE they DON’T have a salary cap to deal with.

    • GPLDAN

      big turnover

      • Johnnywad

        Hard to keep doing that and have a chance. Buckeyes better than I thought though.

    • GPLDAN

      Ducks can’t run

      • Johnnywad

        And the Buckeyes can. And well.

        • Cormonster

          Ohio State ran all over Wisconsin and Alabama, who were both top 10 rushing D’s when they played them.

          • Johnnywad

            Surprised to see Ducks have 99 at half

        • Shady

          This Elliott kid looks legit.

          • Johnnywad

            He’s the goods. Nice balance of speed, size and brains.

    • Is it on ESPN?

      • GPLDAN

        yep.

        OSU is too much team for Oregon. This looks over to me, but in college ball halftime can work magic.

        • Has Marriotta looked good?

          • GPLDAN

            he just missed an easy throw for a 1st. He looks a bit off. He had a drive going and it stalled.

            he tried to naked boot to open up the run, but OSU has waaaay too much team speed for him.

          • Yeah, just tuned in to see that drive.
            Unless he totally chokes, I think he’s going to the Bucs.

          • Johnnywad

            You see that screen shot of him just now? Wow. Looked beaten.

      • Johnnywad

        Yes. And somebody voted your question up. Maybe ESPN brass?

  • Man, I guess $22M bought a lot of protein shakes for Jay Cutler, he looks ripped!

    http://tosh.cc.com/blog/2015/01/12/i-could-take-him?xrs=synd_facebook_011115_tosh_13

  • SC Dave

    Gracious I tried to listen to that bat-shit crazy China moon shit… eeesh

    • haha, I checked it out, sorta off and on.

      I don’t get this part. If aliens can “teraform” or create glass civilizations on any planet or moon, why the hell would they choose the moon?

      Is it like Jane Goodall living with the chimps, or something?

      • GPLDAN

        the green cheese is delish.

      • Irish Sweetness

        If one assumes they were indeed up there at some point, I would opine that they were overlooking their children, us.

    • Irish Sweetness

      You won’t enjoy his 5 hour talk on the Vesta mission then …

  • GPLDAN

    Zeke Elliot looks like Ted Ginn on roids.

  • AlbertInTucson

    I don’t think Fox would be a bad fit for the Bears.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Marcus Mariotta can do a lot of things but he can’t catch the ball for his receivers.
    Those two first half, 3rd down drops were hideous. Not to mention killers.

  • Jones looks like a poor man’s Cam.
    You know Chip Kelly is watching this game. Jones might be a sneaky draft by him in the later rounds.

    • GPLDAN

      B. Marshall is a head case. Who knew?

      • BearDown100393

        Check your Twitter. You might have a challenge to a boxing match!

    • BearDown100393

      He’s looking real poor right now.

  • Wow. Would’ve been the bozo move of the year!

    • BearDown100393

      I do not understand why these idiots are in such a hurry to dump the brick when crossing the goal line for a TD. More excited to celebrate the damn TD as an individual than assure it happens in the first place for the team. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Yes. “Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.” Also “Me! Me! Me.!”

  • WP4Life

    @csn Mullins has some good info on Fox: he took over the Carolina Panthers in 2002 as they came off a 1-15 season, used his first draft choice (No. 2 overall) on Julius Peppers, and improved the Panthers to 7-9 in year one and into the Super Bowl in year two.

  • Shady

    Why Ohio State isn’t handing the ball to Zeke Elliott on every down is beyond me.

    • GPLDAN

      they just did

      • Shady

        About time Urban Meyer pulled his head out of his arse.

  • Shady

    I know they’re still up a point, but I don’t see how OSU overcomes a -4 TO margin.

    • Johnnywad

      No shit. This game should be over. Bucks are taking turns fucking Urban Meyer. He’s put together a winner tonight and they’re shitting the bed for him.

      • Shady

        He’s trying to be too cute. They are dominating the line of scrimmage, just hand the ball off to Elliott and let him do his thing. He was only ripping off runs at 12 yards a clip. Why get away from that??

        • Johnnywad

          I think Urban heard you.

          • Shady

            Wasn’t it obvious? Kid came to play today.

          • Johnnywad

            Yes

      • AlbertInTucson

        No more so than those 3rd down drops by Oregon in the first half.

        • Johnnywad

          I disagree. Turnovers are more critical than drops. You get to punt after a drop and they don’t get the ball at YOUR 20. I think turn overs are the single most determinant factor in game outcomes aren’t they?

  • BearDown100393

    Cool… the Lebron network airing tweets from the guy who never went to college let alone OSU.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Lebron’s an Ohio native. I think he’s entitled.

      • Johnnywad

        Absolutely. You don’t have to attend to be a fan.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Fox is thirty games over .500 as a head coach. He was two games over in Carolina where his best quarterback was Jake Delhomme. (With whom he went to a Super Bowl.) ”

    And his Panthaers WAXED Lovie’s Bears IN the playoffs IN Soldier Field.

    • Johnnywad

      To be fair, he’s been in the AFC West a few years with Payton Manning. That’s kind of like cheating. A little.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Maybe. But that wasn’t Peyton Manning making a shambles of Lovie’s Cover-Who.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      to be fair Steve Smith WAXED the Bears in the playoff. Didn’t he have like 200+ yards receiving and was untacklable?

  • bigrobstunner

    First thing I thought when I heard he was leaving Denver!

  • GPLDAN

    Marcus doing his Jay Cutler imitation there

    • BearDown100393

      Well the kid didn’t turn it over.

    • Shady

      Reminds me of a poor man’s Kaepernick.

      • BearDown100393

        So the national championship is being waged by a Poor Man’s Kaepernick vs a Poor Man’s Cam Newton? 🙂

  • Johnnywad

    This game is reminding me why Mariota’s game won’t translate to the NFL.

    Cardale Jones on the other hand, the combination of size and the fact his arm is a cannon……I’m intrigued. He seems to be pretty poised given his limited action. Curious to see what next year brings for him.

    • BearDown100393

      That was a perfect laser up the field.

    • Shady

      Kid can play, no doubt about it. But the whole dropping the ball thing was a bad look though. If he can keep relying on this power running game, Jones should continue to succeed.

      • Johnnywad

        I’m cutting him some slack on the fumble. Its just his third start in college. He’s played Wisconsin, Alabama, and now Oregon and scored 59 and 42 in the first two games and 35 thus far tonight. Talk about success against strength of schedule.

    • GPLDAN

      Because if Ohio State has produced anything, it’s NFL quarterbacks.

      We got…. uh…. Art Schliester, Tyrell Pryor, Mike Tomczak, Craig Krenzel….

      • Johnnywad

        Is there a quarterbacks’ school I’m not aware of?

        • willbest

          Purdue spits one out a couple times a decade, some have decent success. Bob Griese (2 SB), Len Dawson (1 SB), Drew Brees (1 SB). Also Kyle Orton.

      • AlbertInTucson

        You forgot Kirk Herbstreit.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Didn’t somebody just sign Pryor this week?

  • willbest

    OSU is apparently done screwing around

  • GPLDAN

    The Shady playbook.

    • Shady

      Smash mouth baby.

  • Johnnywad

    Zeke must become a Bear

    • willbest

      2016 draft at the earliest, kids only 19

      • Johnnywad

        I know. But I love him.

  • Shady

    Not sure if this has been posted, but here’s Stephen A. going off on Cutler:

    Georgie boy must have been listening.

    • Does that make Waffle Skip Bayless?

      • “The only time I’ve seen Cutler smile is when he signed his contract!…Cutler should be arrested for thievery, for robbery!” – Stephen A, prophet.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “Skip Bayless” ?

        Man, that IS an insult.

        • Cormonster

          Mannelly was ripping on Bayless on the Score today. Basically he can’t stand him.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Who can?

          • Cormonster

            Agreed. I can do without Stephen Smith too. Annoying.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Stephan A. or Skip.

            Now THERE’S an “…and death is not an option” choice for you.

        • haha I was mostly saying that cuz Skip always takes the other side to every Stephan stance.
          But now that I think about, they both drop Jericho bombs.
          Skip is probably still defending Tebus.

  • Shady

    Urban Meyer a bit of a prick for rubbing it in?

    • willbest

      Whatever. How often do you get to win the first ever college football championship. Elliot deserves to pad his stats.

  • John Doe

    Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora · 1h1 hour ago

    On the John Fox front, he’s open to several options. Continue to hear the Bears likely to emerge as a top possibility for him

    Rotoworld:CBS Sports’ Jason La Canfora reports John Fox is “likely to emerge” as a top candidate for the Bears’ head-coaching job.

    The Falcons and Bears have been the two hottest teams linked to Fox since his Monday-afternoon parting of the ways with the Broncos. FOX Sports’ Alex Marvez reports, however, that the Falcons are unlikely to enter the mix because they’re so deep into their search. Chicago hit the reset button on its search after hiring GM Ryan Pace last week. The Bears would be a nice landing spot.

    • Shady

      Yes. Yes it would.

  • willbest

    Remember when people were complaining that OSU got in over TCU. good times.

    • Johnnywad

      This outcome definitely validates the attempt at a fair playoff system.

  • Shady

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Urban Meyer is the best football coach in the nation – college or pro.

    Think before you tweeter folks.

  • John Doe

    Marcus Mariota falling in draft after today’s performance would be bad news for Bears. One more defensive player they covet or even a top O-lineman may be gone.

    • willbest

      Or worse, they may draft him.

      • John Doe

        He may not get past Jets.

        But, yes, the possibility increased tonight that he will be there when Bears are on the clock at #7. Interesting conundrum for the new GM and coaching staff.

        • willbest

          Then I don’t understand. What difference does it make if Jameis and Marcus go 1 & 2 or 2 & 6? They are consuming 2 of 6 spots either way.

          • John Doe

            If the Jets remain the Jets, they will pick Mariota. If they get competent front office and coach they might pass on him. He looked lock for top 6 before. Not so much after tonight.

  • John Doe

    Dan Wiederer @danwiederer · 56m56 minutes ago
    The Bears are expected to reach out to John Fox. John Fox is interested in hearing from the Bears. http://trib.in/1y7hoVI

    • Shady

      This is like dating in middle school. You get your friend to ask the friend of the girl you like if she’s interested.

      http://www.g33kwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/go-out-with-me.jpg

      • AlbertInTucson

        And then you send a note?

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        middle school ? I use it now, just that I need 3 ‘confirmations’.

    • Johnnywad

      Johnnywad @johnnywad- 1m1minute ago

      No shit.

      Source- “@danwiederer should change his handle to @captainobvious.”

  • If Mariotta falls to #7, SOME team might want to trade up for him and give us a lot.

    Bills, Texans, Browns?….Eagles (chip)

    • Shady

      … Eagles?

      • They’re not sold on Foles, and definitely not on Sanchize.

        Chip inherited those QBs.

        Mariotta is a duck. He can come in and play day#1.

        The Eagles did well with those bums at QB. They just need a competent-good true read-option QB.

        Eagles could very well be a dark horse.

    • John Doe

      Bills don’t have first round pick. Browns already spent first round pick on Manziel last year.

      Texans have Mallet and they will first want to see what they have in that Pitt guy.

      • Bills can trade a 2nd and next year’s #1 and then some.
        Browns spent their 2nd 1st rounder on Manziel (20s), and have publicly stated that Manziel does not prevent them from drafting a QB in the first round again. Might be gamesmanship, but with how Manziel produced on the field and acted OFF it thus far, I wouldn’t put it past them. They are the Browns.

        Mallet is coming off an injury, and is becoming an FA. I’m sure they’ll let him hit the market and explore other options.

        • willbest

          Um. No. The Bears would be falling from 7th to 51st. The Bills would need to basically give the Bears 2015 – 2nd & 3rd, 2016 & 2017 1st. Not happening.

    • AlbertInTucson

      OSU came with the big boys tonight and made Mariotta look like a Samoan RGIII, no?

      They’re ALL big boys in the NFL.

      Did we just get a sneak peek at an RG IV?

      • RG3 IMO was MUCH more impressive in college. Faster, better arm, more accurate “swag”.

        Mariotta might be the next Jay Locker.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I disagree that RGIII was “MUCH more impressive” in college.

          Mariotta never threw for less than 30 TDs a season at Oregon.

          • To me, RG3 looked sharper.
            and RG3s rookie year wasn’t half bad either, until he got hurt.
            He’s never been the same since.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Well, we’ve seen a LOT of Mariotta out here in PAC 12 land and about the only time Mariotta looked so-so before tonight was twice against Arizona and he was playing hurt in one of those games.

            As for RGIII “until he got hurt”, him getting hurt was a forgone conclusion.

            I don’t see Mariotta standing up to NFL pounding.

          • Depends. Mariotta seems to slide like Wilson (Wilson is smaller).

            RG3 is Vick 2.0. To dumb and/or too competitive to slide/dive on a consistent basis.

            However, Mariotta is no Wilson in other respects.

      • this has always been the MO on Oregon’s offense. If you dominate them up front, you shut them down. NFL-caliber DLs have always made that “incredible” offense look like shit.

        That’s why I was convinced Kelly would bomb out in epic fashion in the NFL. I thought he’d go like 2-14 in year 1 and run back to college with his tail between his legs.

      • Big Mike

        I think we may have. I watched the game with a HS Head Coach who has taken his team to the State Championship in the biggest division in Virginia, 3 of the last 4 years and won 1 State championship. His take was that evaluating a QB coming out of an offense like that is the hardest evaluation a scout could possible have to make. RGIII, Johnny Manziel,Russel Wilson.. how do you tell them apart? Hindsight it’s easy, but they all looked about the same coming out.

        • Cormonster

          Russell Wilson played in a pro style offense at Wisconsin. They rarely if ever ran a read option play. He had a lot of rushing yards, but that was mainly on broken pass plays and QB draws.

          • Big Mike

            So your point is that you would have known to take Wilson, but not RGIII or Manziel based on the system? My point was they all had the same “look” to evaluators and getting a lock on how their skills transfers to the NFL is very difficult.

          • Cormonster

            My point was that Wilson shouldn’t be lumped in the same category as those other guys coming out of college. He was easier to evaluate because he played in a pro style offense and not a read-option or spread offense. He took the bulk of the snaps behind center, and only used his legs to scramble when a play broke down. I’m a homer, and I thought he was going to be a good pro, but I never thought he would be this good this early in his career. He had everything you look for in a pro QB coming out of college except height.

            Even at Seattle, Bevell didn’t use the read-option until the second half of Wilson’s rookie season when he seen how well it worked for Washington and San Fran.

  • AlbertInTucson

    42-20. And really, it was THAT close once OSU asserted themselves on both lines.

    • really amazing considering the turnover differential. such a bizarre game all around. Oregon racked up 465 yards of offense, didn’t turn it over, and somehow had a bad offensive game.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I still think that for the way Oregon operates, those 3rd down drops were as good as turnovers tonight.

        The turnovers,when you GET them, aren’t much good if you do DO something with them when you get them.

      • AlbertInTucson

        If you’d told Oregon they’d get 4 Turnovers tonight they’d have bet the mortgage they’d win. Going away.

        Shows how really dominate the Buckeyes WERE tonight.

      • Johnnywad

        Red zone failures were huge for them last night. OS really tightened up when it counted.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Er, …WASN’T that close…

      Duh.

  • AlbertInTucson

    John Harbaugh whining about The Pats formation trickery is pretty funny. Like HE wouldn’t have done it if he’d thought of it first?

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      He was also super pissed after the game about the WR throwing a pass. He said you’re cheating when you try that trick with Brady as your QB and the NFL should investigate.

      Monday he suspected the Patriots Ss were cheating for reading Flacco’s eyes. Said ‘no way a S sees the eyes of the QB from that distance, NFL should investigate’.

      • Scharfinator

        I hear the Patriots also had new shoes on more than half of their players!

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          And what’s Belicheat doing under that hoodie ?

          And why didn’t he get pissed and enter the field in rage after those back to back drives with a bogus Revis PI call and a Gronk obvious holding non call. He must have knows something… NFL should investigate.

          NFL should investigate why the NFL isn’t investigating.

  • Scwartz be with you canned by Rexy.

    Any takers for him as DC?

    Fox-Schwartz combo?

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      He would be a great hire.

      PS: If we’re there why don’t bring in Suh ? That would give Teddy another 5 years of job security and heat the fan base.

  • Scharfinator

    Really, Jeff? Best coach in college or pro?

    The ability to overcome a 4 turnover deficit is not thanks to being a good coach. It is thanks to the amateur league that is college football.

    Not that Urban Meyer doesn’t deserve accolades, I just don’t buy the argument of best.

    • Johnnywad

      He’s won three out of the last 8 championships at two different schools including a year or two off. He also had a 12-0 year in the middle at OS while playing with TV, scholarship and bowl game sanctions while recovering from the fallout of the previous staff. “Best coach” is a difficult thing to sort out, but its hard to leave him out of the discussion.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        The big event makes people think it’s a big moment and they make big statements.

        Leaving this Mayer dude out of the discussion, because he doesn’t belong as he’s coaching amateurs, the best american football HC right now is Pete Caroll.

        He has won 1 Super Bowl and might be the favorite for a repeat.

        • Johnnywad

          How do you think Pete Caroll got his job with the Seahawks in the first place? It wasn’t because of his early failures in the NFL. It was because he could build programs and win in college. Only he wasn’t as successful as Urban Meyer has been.

          How about Jim Harbaugh? Another example of the same notion.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            yeah…well… I never said it’s not a good place to find you coaching ‘game’, swagger and refine your style and connections, but that doesn’t mean anything in the discussion about ‘best HC in american football’.

        • Johnnywad

          Bill Belichick is a better coach than Urban Meyer. I can’t believe you, of all people, don’t think/know that.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            who’s Urban Meyer ? I can’t disrespect Belichick with such comparisons.

          • Johnnywad

            My mistake. Meant to say Pete Caroll

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            well Pete Caroll is the reigning champion and still in the race…as a favorite.

            The best HC in american football right now is him. The results talk.

          • Johnnywad

            Ok

    • NewBearInTown

      Urban Meyer is the best coach in college football, and it isn’t close.
      Urban Meyer, like many college quarterbacks, may find that the NFL is a very different game. Coaching college and coaching pro are totally different skill sets. The talent pools behave very differently, you relate to players differently, your schedule works differently, and the way you build your team is different.
      If you want to talk about the most successful coaches that can do both? Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly and Jim Harbaugh are the best right now – not sure which of the three gets top honors, probably Kelly in college and Harbaugh in the pros. There are probably others, but I’m really not a college football historian enough to know who was successful in both leagues.

      • Scharfinator

        Chip? You think? That sample size seems a bit small.

        • NewBearInTown

          Don’t disagree. But Chip was dominant in college and is creating a special team in Philly. Once his QB situation settles down, he’ll be a regular contender.

      • NewBearInTown

        I wrote that Urban Meyer was the best coach in college and realized after that I neglected to think about Nick Saban. Saban is probably roughly equal to Urban. Those two are really in a class of their own.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Seeing that the Bears most likely won’t even interview most of the best coordinators on the market John Fox might as well be the Bears best hire, even if he is what he is… a good, solid 2nd tier coach.

    So you basically know what you’re getting out of him…good, solid performances/results, but no ultimate final win.

    If you don’t think 1 of the coordinators will be a difference making HC Fox is your better choice, even if he might not be your best choice.

    • Trac

      You give the ownership too much credit. Pace will hire who he wants to. He was given the power. From here on out, Pace “is” the Bears.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Well… exactly.

        PS: Only credit Bears ownership has is in the bank.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I read rumors about John Fox not getting along with Elway. That’s a big ol’ red flag for me.

    Short of gifting you his daughter what more can a GM do for you ? If getting elite player after elite player after elite player for you to win with isn’t good enough, I don’t know what would.

    What in the hell could have Elway done for making Fox think ‘I’d better get the fuck out of here?’.

    Maybe he made a move on Fox’s daughter, which -again- would be the only understandable answer.

    • Johnnywad

      Maybe he knows Manning is done and the team is about to go into free fall.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Well… the rumors say they started disliking each other long time ago. That means before Manning ‘was done’ and they discovered -geniuses- the running game.

    • Trac

      Barb, the Bronco’s have been a contender since the day Fox joined the team. You have to remember that only one team can win the Super Bowl. Denver has been more dominant than the Patriots since Fox arrived and they pretty darn near lost to the Raven at home. The Bronco’s knew they would only have a 3 or 4 year window with Manning and it’s over now. Fox would be perfect for us in the sense that even if he isn’t good enough to get us to the promised land, he’ll be a great transitional coach to have for 3 or 4 years while the Bears add some talent to their roster. News flash!!! Emery did not rebuild this team, he decimated what was left of it with poor coaching selections and draft picks.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        First of all…what does Emery have to do with the relationship between Fox and Elway ? My post is about that.

        Second of all… that’s a negative on “Denver has been more dominant than the Patriots since Fox arrived”. The Patriots have 4 AFC Championship and 1 Super Bowl appearance and lose. The Broncos had 1 AFC Championship and 1 Super Bowl appearance and lose.

        • NewBearInTown

          I think he meant the regular season. But, yeah people forget how consistently good New England is.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            regular season or playoffs the Broncos can’t be more dominant than the Patriots in the last 4 years…seeing that they had Manning only for 3 of those years.

            that’s not a knock on Fox, it’s actually the opposite as he’s won a playoff game with Tebow time. Just not mathematically true.

        • DaMurph

          I think he was also referring to your earlier post when you brought up his previous remarks about Emery.

      • no, the Broncos have been a contender since the day Peyton joined the team. Fox was there for a year before Peyton and went 8-8.

        • Trac

          No, they have been contenders since he got there. They won a playoff game with Tebow. Enough said. If anything, they underperformed that year.

          • an 8-8 team that sneaks into the playoffs based on a shitty division, squeaks out a win at home in the WC, and gets blown out by 30 points in the divisional round is not a contender.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Not to mention Ryan Clark couldn’t play in that game because of his health condition. PIT’s secondary got eaten alive without him.

          • 8-8 with Tebow at QB was a good coaching job that year. But I’m more impressed by Lovie Smith going 11-5 with a rookie Kyle Orton at the helm.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Agreed, the NFC was weak in them days though.

  • NewBearInTown

    To answer BillW, I don’t have a coach this year I view as a slam dunk. Fox might be the best of the bunch, but there are concerns with him as with anyone.
    My number one conversation with him if I’m the GM concerns the following question: What happened in Denver?
    I assume the answer is that somebody wants to move on from Peyton and somebody doesn’t. If that’s not it, then the answer is probably a difference of philosophies between Elway and Fox as to how to retool once Peyton departs. So we need to ask what the competing philosophies were, how did those talks go down, how did you want to handle the quarterback position after Peyton left, how did you want to handle if Peyton didn’t want to leave? All that stuff.
    More than any other coach on the market, I would spend a lot of time asking Fox about his old team. Gase, I want to hear how he worked with Manning for 15 minutes, then I want to dig into a long conversation about how intends to run this offense now. Fox, we’re talking about Denver for probably the first hour at least.

    • Johnnywad

      Thats a great thought. Makes sense and I’d love to hear the answers. Nice post.

      • BillW

        Good points but at the same time I would hate for the Bears to overthink this. You can find negatives in every candidate mentioned. Good reasons to NOT hire any of them.

        • Johnnywad

          I’m glad I don’t have to make this hire. I would never sleep.

    • BillW

      No slam dunk for sure. Which is the best reason to hire Fox even if only as a transitional coach. I think the Bears need to play it safe as they let pace figure out how to make the Bears perennial contenders.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Clearly Fox is the best choice, if you can’t find the next HC star.

        Like…if you can’t find your Pete Caroll, you’d better try hard and go after John Fox.

        • BillW

          To me the biggest risk is hiring another wanny or jauron or lovie. Which one or more of these coordinators may well be.

          I would not be excited about Fox but I wouldn’t be worried either

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            you don’t win if you don’t take risks.

    • Trac

      There really can only be one reason Fox left Denver. Him and Elway don’t like each other. End of story!

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I mean… what a fuck ? I said that and you gave me ‘Emery did a bad job’.

        If the ‘personal rapport’ got in the way and not the professional one as Elway acquired tons of elite players, that makes the ‘personal’ angle between him and Pace a vital one.

        You can’t just look at his football record…you have to look at that also.

  • GPLDAN

    I think Peyton may want to move on from Peyton.

    There’s money on the table, yeah, but I hear all those Papa John franchises make a lot of dough.

    • BillW

      Ouch

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Yeah…Payton may want to move on from Peyton, but I don’t think Payton wants to move on from Denver.

      I hear weed gives you quite the appetite.

      I hear weed makes you hear things.

      • Irish Sweetness

        What now?

    • Shady

      I see what you did there.

    • Scharfinator

      I bet one day he will be Manning his own Papa John’s location.

      • Johnnywad

        Boom! No love for this one yet? Can’t believe it Scharf.

    • Johnnywad

      He’s probably just been clinging to the hope of winning the big one once more so he can face his old man around the dinner table. Can you imagine being a superstar and being outdone by your little brother? Especially given Eli is a special needs kid. That would be tough.

  • Shady

    I’m expecting a new thread about Teryl Austin soon. When I first heard his name come up for the HC job I wasn’t excited about it cause I didn’t know much about him, but looking at where he’s been and what he’s accomplished his resume looks like a winner… Not to mention the Bears would be taking an asset from a division rival.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      he has 1 year as a coordinator. I mean that’s playing with fire big time with the GM-HC combo.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    First choice I like very much. Good HC experience. Elway is a total Douche. I’m sure we’ll learn more later about why Fox left. If the Bears can grab him I would.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Elway may be the biggest douche on the planet… fantastic GM though.

      Me wants some Elway GM-ing.

  • Bear Down in Tampa
    • GPLDAN

      Woot-woot is #16 on the list at 1.5 stars!

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