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New Regime Seems to Like Shea McClellin (But They Just Got Here)

| May 14th, 2015

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Perhaps the most unexpected thing to come from the Bears new regime is the consistent praise of annual disappointment Shea McClellin.

When Vic Fangio was asked about returning players who could contribute, McClellin’s name was the second one to come out of his mouth (after Kyle Fuller, of course). John Fox admitted to liking him come out of college and said he “has a bright future.” These are two old school football men. They have done this before. They have nothing invested in Shea McClellin.

Even though they didn’t pick up his fifth-year option (which would’ve made him one of the highest-paid inside linebackers in the league) the Bears have made it clear that they see McClellin as a piece of their defense, somewhere.

They genuinely seem to like him.

Of course we need to entertain the idea that they know something we don’t. Both have had a lot of success with linebackers throughout their careers. The list is actually incredible from Von Miller, Dan Morgan and Thomas Davis to the likes of Sam Mills, Kevin Greene and NaVorro Bowman. They’ve gotten career years out of guys like James Anderson and Lamar Lathon.

It isn’t hard to recognize McClellin’s potential but his production has been nonexistent. We’re three full seasons into his career and he doesn’t even have 50 tackles or 10 sacks, numbers he was expected to reach annually. Sometimes, the box score doesn’t tell the story of how good or bad a player has been, but that’s not the case with McClellin.

Other than a few sacks of Aaron Rodgers, including one very notable one, McClellin has been MIA in his Bears career.

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Shea got his ass kicked at the point of attack and was completely lost in coverage. Every year we hear about how he’s stronger, faster or smarter and every year we see the same thing on the field. That’s when he’s on the field at all.

It’s true that the Bears haven’t done him any favors with how they’ve used him. He never should have been expected to be a starting defensive end. His best trait as a linebacker is his ability to blitz, but they only let him do that 63 times last year according to Pro Football Focus. Maybe he could’ve developed into a pass-rush specialist if he had stuck with Rod Marinelli. Maybe he could be a good linebacker if he had started there in his career. Maybe this and maybe that but the bottom line is it hasn’t happened and we don’t have any reason to think it will now.

The new regime understands that he hasn’t been used correctly, but there is also no evidence that there is a correct way to use him.

Sometimes guys never put it together. If ever McClellin can become a good player, it will be now with Fox and Fangio guiding him. They seem to believe he will do it, the rest of us already know not to hold our breath.

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  • Big Mike

    Shea McClellin’s combine numbers said he was fast and either small for a DE with good straight line speed and above average quickness. He was not very explosive, and was sort of a weakling (19 reps at 225, by comparison Kevin White did 23). Everything about him said he would be a failure at DE in a 4-3. He was better as a SAM LB for the Bears. Putting him at ILB is 3-4 is a great move and his last shot at being a productive player. His size and speed are similar to the top ILBs in the game at this position. His effectiveness will be largely dependent on how well the DL for the Bears is. If he’s kept clean, I believe he will make plays. His weakness is that he just doesn’t have a lot of pop in his tackles. It always seemed to me that he wrestled guys to the ground.

    • Trac

      I would love nothing better than to put chicken dinner to sleep and wake up the sleeping lion he might be if LB is a position that will allow him to utilize his skill set. If that happens, it will be a cherry on top kinda event that will only make Fangio ‘ s defense that much better.

      • Big Mike

        I went back and looked at his combine stats and video from him at Oregon. How he was drafted with the 19th pick at DE defies all logic. He was at best a project at DE. He had little pop or explosion in college playing all over the field. Looking at Bears game tape of him, I’d say 3/4 of his tackles are chasing, lunging and or wrestling. Rarely does he square a guy up and tackle him. With that said, in a closed in space like ILB he will be forced to make those types of tackle. If he can do that, his speed, height and so on should give him a chance. But Bostic could take off at ILB.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          That might be the problem right there, he went to Boise State Mike, you may have been watching Dion Jordan be soft at Oregon…lol!

          • Big Mike

            Nah, I was looking at Boise State. I just wrote the wrong school name. Good pick up on Dion Jordan.

        • Trac

          Yet that “beast” Emery told old sauce that chicken dinner was a “monster”.

          • Big Mike

            There is nothing in his tape, college or pro that I would describe as “monster”. No big hits, no stuffs, always chasing at an angle. In college he was effective. But even in his highlight reel, he was a side to side guy that made a ton of plays by being faster, not by beating a block and dropping a guy. How that translated to DE in the NFL where everyone is fast and LT are fast and very big, I will never know. This man should have never been drafted by the Bears to play Defensive End.

            How do you draft a DE that can only rep 225 19x. WTF?

          • Irish Sweetness

            He might end up a Jack Del Rio type. Nothing flashy, dependable. I always thought we drafted him to take over from Lac – now we get to see if he can or not. Either way, Bostic or Shea, we need to draft the stud next year. Both look like backups.

  • Trac

    Great perspective Andrew. Isn’t it fun to dream?

  • BillW

    Very good read Andrew.

  • BearDown100393

    In all seriousness, does anyone here have the opportunity to watch practices? I’ve watched two training camp practice sessions over the past 2 summers. Perhaps Shea is a very good “practice player” and shows a skill set not really demonstrated in games? As noted, neither Fox or Pace have anything invested in him. So I have to believe that they genuinely believe he can contribute.

    • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

      “We practiced well.” – Asshat, 2014

      • BillW

        That says it all!

  • Waffle

    DaBearsBlog

    @dabearsblog

    Hockey is soccer on cocaine.

    Playoff hockey might be the greatest sport on earth.

    • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

      I’m worried about the timeoff for the Hawks………..they were rounding into form, hopefully they can keep that edge against the Ducks.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Yeah but every game that ticks by in a series opens you up for potential injury and we definitely don’t need another D injury after Rosy went down.

      • BillW

        Maybe costs them a game that they might have won otherwise – meaning game 1 Sunday.

        Hawks in 6 or 7, rather than 5 or 6.

  • Waffle

    Thoughts on Shea:
    1. brutal 19th pick
    2. brutal use of his skill set while with Bears
    3. seems to lack the inherent death stroke of an ILB
    4. is a nice guy that was a good college player and whose game doesn’t translate well to the NFL

    Urlacher was an ineffective OLB. He excelled at MLB because of his insane Cheetah-like ability to chase/track down running back, qb’s and anything underneath. His coverage skills were solid and took up alot of space in the middle of the field.

    Shea seems to look like Urlacher at a glance but lacks the skills that Urlacher was able to make translate to the NFL field consistently.

    • Big Mike

      Pretty much said that in my post on the topic somewhere here. He lacks explosion, but he has speed and size. He’s been put in the worst possible positions and environment. He should have been a 3rd round pick. He had a 5th round grade by some scouts. With all of that said his length, speed and overall size as an ILB is a plus. If the DL keeps him clean, he will be ok against the run and could excel on pass rush situation.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    1.) Let’s hope that the obvious confidence that Fox and Fangio have in this kid actually pays off in a new system.
    2.) Let’s hope if it doesn’t the Staff is smart and quick about replacing him.

    I wish nothing but success for this kid and I hope #1 comes true.

    • if #1 doesn’t happen, #2 won’t be an issue, because he’ll never see the field in the first place.

  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

    Hey Butch –

    When Batman says “really seals in the flavor!” – I defy you not to laugh your ass off.

    http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6849597/batman-cant-stop-thinking-about-sex

  • I just have a really hard time seeing Shea earning much PT this year.

    OLB? Forget about it.

    ILB? Foster starts, Jones should be the other starter, and I’d take Bostic over Shea too.

    • Big Mike

      Bostic is blind when it comes to coverage. Not sure how much an ILB in 3-4 is needed. Both Bostic and Jones bring are more explosive than Shea. Neither are as fast. Could be Shea is used in a “nascar” blitz package. But ILB to me is clearly where he has the best chance to contribute.

      He could be useful at OLB, very similar to being a SAM/DE. But we’ve got a ton of bodies that need to get work there.

      • Bostic has been terrible in coverage, but so is Shea. Completely lost in space.

        My ideal LB corp would have Jones at SAM, Foster at MIKE, somebody not currently on the roster who knows how to cover at JACK (Eric Kendricks, sigh), and Pernell McPhee at WILL, with Jared Allen coming in at WILL and McPhee kicking to DL for pass rush nickel situations (Lamarr Houston would be mostly full time DL in this scenario).

        But the Bears seem to want Houston/McPhee as the OLBs in the base package, which means Foster and Jones should be the ILBs then IMO.

    • Trac

      Given that our LB’S haven’t been able to stay healthy for several years now, he’ll get playing time.

      • yeah, could come through injuries. If he makes the roster. If he’s the 3rd or 4th ILB, he’ll need to show serious ST value to stick.
        FWIW, I think he makes the roster. But I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s cut. For the first time in his career, he actually has to earn it in camp.

  • AlbertInTucson

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    What’s end game for Patriots w/this nonsense? They won’t convince A SINGLE PERSON w/that report. They are extending bad news cycle.”

    So, the Patriots claim complete innocence but they HAVE suspended the 2 locker room lackeys without pay?

    • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

      Those two guys made like $45k/yr each. When pressed initially, Brady denied knowing them. Even knowing their names.

      And they are going to get raked for this because they were stupid and used their Pats provided phones instead of personal cellphones to text that incriminating shit.

      Jocks fuck the nerds. It’s how it goes.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Smells more and more like Lance “Deny! Deny! Deny!” Armstrong, doesn’t it?

    • Sactowns#1

      Brady is such a class act. Throw some guys under the bus and now I’m sure their whole lives are in limbo since they are making zero dollars for lord knows how long. What a POS.

      • BearDown100393

        Successor to Roger Goodell.

    • Trac

      This is all about the lawyers, guns and money.

  • BillW

    I know this would sound like sour grapes to some people (like Barb) but I am VERY glad I’m not a Patriot fan. They are simply insulting EVERY one of their fans by these lame excuses. (“He calls himself the Deflator because he’s trying to lose weight”)

    It actually does remind me of Nixon and the coverup. I recall the day before he resigned he said “the people defending me are doing so without full information”.

    How can even the most ardent Patriot fan go along with the Deflator excuse? I’d be pissed on basic principle – they are making the team a laughing stock throughout the national press even as I type this.

    • they should have just accepted the punishment and moved on. Then it’s not a huge deal.
      Like Jeff said in his tweet (posted by Albert below), this accomplishes nothing but making them look dumb and keeping this in the news for as long as possible.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Can you say “Self-Righteous Indignation” boys and girls?

    • BerwynBomber

      Yup, that Deflator excuse was particularly priceless.

      • BillW

        That’s the wild card in all this. I have no idea how binding any non-disclosure agreements might be. But you have to figure somewhere these guys will try to write a book or somehow profit from this.

        What if Brady simply told them to deflate the balls to the lowest legal level? And maybe there were games where Brady berated them, saying it felt more like the mid or upper level, not the low level?

        So maybe the Deflator figured he better err on the side of caution and figure a way to get them low – especially for the AFCC. Hence the “pit stop” after they were checked.

        See, there really is a logical explanation that exonerates Brady and the Patriots – though it puts the Deflator in trouble. Of course, he can’t be in any more trouble.

        The fact the Patriots are not going that route indicates guilt to a reasonable mind.

        • BerwynBomber

          That is THE first plausible explanation I have heard that exonerates Brady. But, again, his and the Pats strategy of denial would now reveal it to be a lie. Or to put it another way, it would have been plausible before the Wells Reports and this latest round of denials but it would seem implausible now. Another last-ditch bit of bullshit.

    • AlbertInTucson

      A lot of the problem, I suspect, is that they were getting away with it for SO LONG they don’t think they were doing anything wrong.

      • BerwynBomber

        They are rightfully worried about legacy. I say rightfully because IMV this affects it.
        But they would have been better off not fighting this.

    • BearDown100393

      Thinking about it carefully, Darth Deflator has a nice ring to it. Fwd to Star Wars writing department.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Need my old lady to deflate my balls. They’re getting blue…

  • BerwynBomber

    Here is one huge irony of the Deflategate strategy of denial. HAD Brady admitted guilt from day one chances are the equipment managers’ amusing and damning texts would have never seen the light of the day. Moreover, we might never had any idea how long they had been deflating the balls, thus allowing the Brady fanboys and Pats fans to cling to their “but it had no affect on the outcome of the Colts game” argument.

    As it is that argument no longer holds. All because of this denial strategy.

    Oh, and this whole “fight it out in court” gambit/threat seems either bullshit or another desperate attempt to sway public opinion. Would any decent lawyer for Brady or the Pats really want those equipment guys taking the stand? That would be insane.

    • BillW

      Very well said. It reminds me of the whole JRW thing. All the posturing about being treated unfairly and all the threats of legal action etc. It was basically done to make people feel sorry for them. That’s what the Patriots seem to be doing – hoping people feel bad that they are being picked on.

    • BearDown100393

      It would be the greatest form of entertainment since Brian McNamee testified against Clemens on the Hill.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Litigation against the NFL opens up a GIANT can of worms, not the least of which is Tommy would then HAVE to provide his phone info as part of the discovery process and I can’t believe he ever wants THAT to happen.

  • Big Mike
    • Irish Sweetness

      That would be spot on.

  • willbest

    I get that he has an amazing work ethic, and that Mel Tucker and the Lovie loyalists did all sorts of damage, but I am starting to think Shea either has naked pictures of Virginia or is the bastard son of a McCaskey. Because it defies logic that everybody that goes through Halas sings his praise.

    • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

      There’s no downside to it. The kid lacks confidence, you can see it in his face. They released his option. He’s making his rookie contract deal, last year. They know he’s not coming back.

      To get mileage out of him, be nice to him. Kid needs people to believe in him, not tell him put up or get out. He’s not made of sterner stuff.

      So, alas, you get everyone being nice to him. I’m sure there’s lawyers who do that to interns.

    • Sactowns#1

      It could be that the guy looks great in practice but folds under the pressure of real game time action. Lets hope the new coaches can figure it out and fix it.

    • Big Mike

      No, it really doesn’t defy logic. Once he was drafted, playing out his rookie contract given the change of coaching staffs, was more or less a self fulfilling prophecy. Each staff thought their scheme would/will take advantage of his talent. POX has said, look kid here’s a shot. You’re competing with 4-5 guys all of whom are better than you. We’re not extending you contract, so put up or beat it.

  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

    Deflate means weight loss.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/patriots-lawyer-deflator-texts-about-losing-weight-not-deflating-balls/

    Some lawyers bullshit better than others.

    • BearDown100393

      And then others end up hiring Greek priests for the Chicago Cubs.

    • BillW

      What else could it mean. Luckily he found a great exercise technique. Lug a bag of footballs everywhere you go. Even to the bathroom.

  • BillW

    Favre on Brady:

    “I don’t think by any stretch, in my opinion, that Tom was cheating. It sounds crazy.”

    then later..

    “I don’t know if Tom can honestly say he has completed more passes because of it. I think more than anything, it helped with the grip based on conditions.”

    Well, which is it? If you don’t think he was cheating, then what’s the “it” you refer to that helped his grip?

    I think maybe Brett’s been writing the excuses the Patriots have been laying out today.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Comment on Brady. What great way to bask once again in some limelight.

      Brett Favre night is too far off.

    • Brett took a few too many hits in his career. Looks like he’s 45 going on 80, apparently talks and thinks like it too

      • willbest

        Considering the length of time Farve spent in the NFL his life expectancy is probably somewhere around 55-60 at this point.

  • AlbertInTucson
  • AlbertInTucson

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    “Country doesn’t have $$ to ensure trains don’t run above speed but NFL & Pats can spend millions on this shit? Great priorities, America.

    The engineer has no memory of the crash.

    Beacuse…?

    A) He was sound asleep.

    B) He was high pot/meth/coke/booze.

    C) He hasn’t spoken with his attorney yet.

    D) All of the above.

    • Trac

      Ha! You gotta laugh at most of Jeff’s knee jerk libtard twats about events. I don’t take them seriously.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Mebbe, but the song is all too often the same in these types of train wrecks:
        The Engineer/Motorman was impaired.

        • NewBearInTown

          The evidence seems to agree with you. Maybe they can get Ted Wells to investigate.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I forgot another very real possibility:

            He/She was texting/tweeting/instagamming/playing Angry Birds on their phone.

        • Sactowns#1

          Last one I remember was the railroad called in a guy who had just worked a 12 hour shift. You basically have to go in or risk being pulled out of rotation. Its unsafe and its usually the engineer who takes the blame for a companies penny pinching practices.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Even truckers are (supposedly) limited per 24 hrs.

            Our first satellite truck was big enough that whatever engineers drove it had to keep an ICC log of their hours.

            Now the satellite trucks and standard vans.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Speaking of trains and curves, remember THIS, Chicago…?

          http://balaspa.hubpages.com/hub/The-Worst-Disaster-in-Chicago-Transit-Authority-History

          • BillW

            Oh God. I worked just a few blocks from there but got home before it happened. Took El trains there often. Never saw the cars on the ground at the site (just on tv) but I couldn’t help but imagine it every time I walked by there for months

        • Trac

          Kinda like the ole “pilot error” findings on almost all small engine plane crashes.

    • NewBearInTown

      I assumed it was a result of head trauma, but I haven’t read much about the crash. Was he not injured?

      • AlbertInTucson

        I don’t know if he was or not but he WAS doing 100 mph, plus, into a 50 mph curve.

        It’s like drunk drivers. THEY usually survive the crash that otherwise produces fatalities.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Really? So it was nothing to do with infrastructure and everything to do with the laws of physics … well take that, Fox news gun-jumpers. The crash was Barry O’ Bama’s fault naturally.

          • Trac

            A lot of people seem to think money is the answer to every problem in the world.

          • Sactowns#1

            It generally is. Starving? Sick? Displaced? All curable with a little cash.

          • Trac

            Money is a tool, not the answer to societies woes.

    • AlbertInTucson

      The lack of an automatiuc braking system, something one would ASSUME to be standard in this day and age, is just another of the too many examples of this country’s crumbling infrastructure.

      I am REALLY glad I don’t have any major bridge crossings to deal with where I am

      • willbest

        Fixing US infrastructure would employ too many males, and thus it cannot be condoned. Best to just issue more money for administrative staffing.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I have enough to worry about with my OWN crumbling infrastructure!

        • BearDown100393

          The Stimulus Act will go down as the worst performing economic piece of legislation in the history of the country. And its most expensive.

          • SC Dave

            Well, dont count out obamacare quite yet

          • BearDown100393

            All too uncomfortably familiar with that particular turd.

    • SC Dave

      D.

    • BearDown100393

      E) Stupid and pointless.

      The NFL is a private business. Its business is sports entertainment. The NFL is not Cornelius Vanderbilt.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    don’t know why but i am waiting for a parody of ‘Informer’ by Snow called ‘Deflator’

    A licky boom-boom down

    • RenoBear

      Yesssss

  • Sactowns#1

    The NTSB has been urging railroads for decades to install technology that can stop wrecks caused by excessive speed or other problems, including those that can automatically slow trains through curves

  • BerwynBomber

    In these weeks of Team Brady, hats off to Le’Veon Bell’s attitude about his suspension:

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12888113/leveon-bell-pittsburgh-steelers-ban-do-my

  • One thing I know for certain. When Brady hits the field again, he’s going to be mercilessly heckled with “Chhhhheeeater.” Kinda like the old Daryl Strawberry treatment.

    I just wonder how long it lasts.

    • BerwynBomber

      With Jets fans, until he retires. With rest of the league? Not long. He is still football’s answer to Derek Jeter for most.

      • Yeah, I was thinking the same. That @Jets game will esp entertaining. They’re probably already working on their signs.

        • NewBearInTown

          I suspect Bills games will be much the same. But yeah, I’m what most would call a well-informed football fan; I agree that Brady broke the rules, but I don’t really care that much.

          • BerwynBomber

            My guess if it had been Rodgers you would feel differently. Especially if the Cheese had won the SB.

          • Gotta see the irony in that, NB! lol

    • BearDown100393

      And none of it will be recorded by the NFL controlled television microphones during broadcasts.

  • BerwynBomber

    My suspicion is that Thibs wants out. He kinda looked relieved in that presser. Bulls management handcuffed him with this whole weird minutes restriction nonsense and having to clear Rose’s availability via Jen Swanson. Firing his favorite assistant before last season didn’t help either.

    • willbest

      Well he can be the scapegoat this year. When they lose to LeBron next year I wonder who it will be.

      • BerwynBomber

        Dude does to us what MJ used to do to them.

    • BearDown100393

      The Bulls best head coach since Phil Jackson will be leaving the organization. The situation is absurd. Season in/out, he has led an out-manned team into the playoffs usually without Derrick Rose. If there was a disgruntled player regarding playing minutes, was a peep ever expressed outside the locker room? Thibs is certainly not perfect but far far better than either Del Negro or Tim Floyd. Reinsdorf has a blind spot for some of his management personnel on both the Bulls and White Sox. Kenny Williams is an albatross along with Robin Ventura as an unqualified manager. With the Bulls, Forman and Paxson should be held equally culpable as Thibs if blame is to be assessed. Management did nothing to provide the Bulls roster a bona fide 2nd star player to complement Rose.

      • Management bought out Boozer and spent that money to bring in Pau and Mirotic. The Bulls have 3 players who have played in an All Star game in the last 2 years, 2 of them as starters, and that doesn’t even include their “franchise player.”

        Noah was never healthy this year, or this team would have looked drastically different. With all the big man depth they have, they should have sat him for the first half of the season to get his knee right.

        Realistically, no team is coming close to a title when their MVP goes through all the shit Rose has in the last 3-4 years. That’s not really on coach or management.

        FWIW, I think both management and Thibs are among the top 5-10 in the NBA. Management got Taj, Butler, and Niko all in late round 1. Thibs had his flaws, and never even improved on them in 6 years, but is still a damn good coach. But the team kind of tuned him out a bit this year, and it’s time for a change.

        • BearDown100393

          That is all true but keep in mind it was the same management that signed Boozer to a stupid 5 year contract in free agency. And had the NBA not adopt the amnesty clause, management would have been stuck with him for probably all of that contract as well. Hard to credit Forman for using Reinsdorf’s dough to buy himself out of his own horrendous mistake. Even still, Mirotic and Pau were very good additions. Thibs will find a job immediately when parting ways. How a college coach is going to fix the Bulls is beyond me but that apparently are the whispers.

          • they need to get better on offense, which I think is reasonable to expect from a new coach. The question is how much the D will slip with Thibs gone.

  • AlbertInTucson

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    I used to be called The Masterbater because of my ability to apply a worm to a hook. https://twitter.com/nfltotalaccess/status/598991191489675266
    That would be MasterBAITER and that joke must be older than I am.

    • BillW

      Reminds me of one of Belushi’s sketches – Samurai Baker. Buck Henry called him a master baker and Belushi drew his sword in anger.

      Cutting edge humor in the 70s. (And yes, that pun was intended.)

  • Daheneny auto parts… we’ll sell u this old radiator if u turn in ur fat new wheels

  • BillW

    “How often does the greatest ever to do something die?”

    Once (each).

    I don’t mean to be irreverent., (It’s just another example of Twitter-hate).

    BB King is a legend. Showed that guitar playing is not necessarily speed and sound, but soul. (Did you know he couldn’t play and sing at the same time?) From his heart to his fingers to our ears to our hearts.

  • AlbertInTucson

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    How often does the greatest ever to do something die? Hope people take a minute today to appreciate him. https://twitter.com/dahaar/status/599196959510024192

    “The thrill is gone…”

  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

    Jameis and Jay can hang out with Jim and trade Lovie stories

    http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/05/jameis_winston_colin_kaepernic.html

  • John Doe

    More good drafts in Bears future.. This guy is good.

    Ryan Pace is showing everyday he is an improvement over Phil Emery.

    Ravens national scout Joe Douglas, one of the most respected scouts in the NFL, is leaving the team to join the Chicago Bears as their new director of college scouting, according to league sources

    Under new Bears general manager Ryan Pace, Douglas replaces Marty Barrett whose contract wasn’t renewed.

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-ravens-national-scout-joe-douglas-joins-bears-as-director-of-college-scouting-20150515-story.html

  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist

    Forget water balloon, this guy exploded like a cheery bomb dipped in red paint.

    Why get killed by -ONE- ZPU-4 when you can have a DOZEN fire at you from 30m?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-15/execution-anti-aircraft-gun-photographic-evidence

    Kim Jong has overkill issues….

  • John Doe

    I think Pace is clear on his #1 job for the long-term success of the franchise – scouting and finding a QB in the next draft.


    Brad Biggs @BradBiggs · 1h1 hour ago
    More importantly, Douglas credited for pushing Joe Flacco as scout with #Ravens and was key part of one of NFL’s best drafting organizations

    • Doc Hamstring

      “Pushing Joe Flacco” isn’t something that earns you a blue ribbon. Flacco is roughly equivalent to Cutler–he’s even got the out-sized contract compared to his performance, too.

      • John Doe

        Flacco delivered in clutch during the Super Bowl run.

        Please don’t say Cutler is equivalent to Flacco. When Cutler wins Super Bowl may be then. Until then Culter is not a QB but INT man.

        • bearfaninde

          Agreed! Flacco had an impossible run through the playoffs that SuperBowl year (13 TDs no INTs)..

          Most playoff wins by any QB since he came into the league (2008)

          most road playoff wins in NFL history (7)

          Flacco has never gone to the playoffs and not won at least one game.

          Yep…JUST LIKE Cutler

          • Trac

            Hahaha.

        • Doc Hamstring

          It’s not just me who isn’t sold on Flacco:

          http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1517496-joe-flacco-is-not-an-elite-nfl-quarterback-and-never-will-be (a couple years old, but it’s not like he did anything in 2014)

          http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-07-02/sports/bal-ravens-joe-flacco-ranked-12thbest-quarterback-in-nfl-in-espn-poll-20140702_1_joe-flacco-andrew-luck-eli-manning

          From a longer piece that I’ll just clip here:

          “First of all the wins stat is both false and deceiving. Drew Brees has more wins during that time period, and so would Tom Brady and Peyton Manning if it were not for season-ending injuries. Granted durability is important and Flacco has won a lot of games, but the conclusion that that alone makes Flacco a top 5 quarterback is utterly preposterous. Maybe I shouldn’t be so surprised to hear such far-fetched garbage coming from an agent’s mouth, but I can’t help myself.
          The Ravens won all of those games because of their defense and running game, not because of Joe Flacco. Not to mention, citing regular season victories rather than postseason victories is never a good sign in grading the stock of an NFL quarterback (Flacco is just 5-4 in his career in the postseason)….

          Prior to 2011, Flacco’s career in the postseason had been abysmal. He completed only 53.1 percent of his passes while averaging only 153.3 yards per carry and had thrown only six touchdowns compared to seven interceptions. To be fair to Flacco, his performance in the 2011 playoffs were a slight improvement. Still, one can’t say that Flacco put the Ravens on his back last postseason either. Despite having a solid statistical performance at New England, Flacco was still only able to put up 20 points against one of the leagues very worst pass defenses.”

        • Doc Hamstring

          And I said Flacco is “roughly equivalent” to Cutler. In that both have under-performed according to the expectations of the fans and their (apparent/supposed) talent. They both have strong arms and make risky, often dumbass throws. Cutler’s have ended in a lot more INTs than Flacco’s, but that’s not because Flacco has made “better” bad throws.

          Both were rewarded with big contracts that have have had detrimental effects on the team.

          Cutler is typically ranked somewhere in the “average” of all NFL QBs. Depending on the writer/analyst, his recent performances, and the team’s W/L record that season, Cutler gets ranked anywhere from 22 to 14 in the NFL. Flacco, aside from some Ravens homers and some wishful grass-is-always-greener types, typically is ranked in the 12-to-18 range. Thus, “roughly equivalent” in terms of overall league ranking/performance (average to above-average, but not great and certainly not among the league’s best), and even moreso in terms of how their contracts have been perceived as being waaaaay too generous compared to their effect on the team, especially in how their salary short-changes the team for other positions.

      • Trac

        What are they putting in da water out dare doc?

      • bearfaninde

        What are you smoking Doc??? Have you been watching any football since 2008??

        Flacco had an impossible run through the playoffs that year (13 TDs no INTs)..

        Most playoff wins by any QB since he came into the league (2008)

        most road playoff wins in NFL history (7)

        Flacco has never gone to the playoffs and not won at least one game.

        Yep…JUST LIKE Cutler

        • Doc Hamstring

          Flacco went to the Super Bowl because he threw up a stupid deep ball that would have been incomplete–at best–and likely even picked off if the defender hadn’t made one of the most brainless plays in NFL playoff history.

          Flacco’s W/L percentage, his TD/INT ratio, etc., is because he had a Top-5 defense and a powerful running game. I wouldn’t put him in the Top 10 of QBs most years he’s been in the league. He’s overrated beyond overrating.

          I’m not saying he’s bad. Not saying he’s even “average.” I’m saying he’s not (gasp) “elite.” He’s overrated. He gets into the playoffs because the AFC North is a clusterfuck, and the AFC Wild Card is a fucking joke (seriously, after the Division winners, the playoff teams in the AFC are usually the runner-up in the AFC North–who typically are 1/2 game behind the winner of the AFC North–and whatever crappy team lucks into a barely-over .500 year).

          Flacco’s contract broke Baltimore’s offense. Lost their best wideout as a result. Their offense took a step back as a result. Now they have The Guru, and we know how much he can “coach up” an offense into backward steps.

          Cutler is (or was) overrated. Overpaid for his talent. Saddled his team with an albatross of a contract. Just like Flacco.

          • bearfaninde

            You can argue why Flacco has a good record. Bottom line – he IS CLUTCH! You can argue that his TD/INT ratio is because of the defense, but that’s YOUR opinion.
            Bottom line – Flacco HAS a better record than Cutler and delivered the RING. He’s younger, is far more accomplished than Cutler probably will be when he’s done. Half the fan base isn’t trying to run him out of town (and probably his team management)! So if it feels good, go ahead and say meaningless things like “he’s not elite”. But please don’t say he’s just like Cutler.

      • BerwynBomber

        Even setting aside Flacco’s post-season record which is substantial and impressive and not unimportant, Flacco’s numbers are trending upward and he is significantly younger than our trigger man.

        I highly doubt that at the end of their careers we will say that Flacco was “roughly equivalent to Cutler.” I wouldn’t even say it now.

    • Waffle

      It may have helped the ravens to have a top 5 D and running game. That can’t possibly help though.

  • John Doe

    Daniel Jeremiah @MoveTheSticks · 1h1 hour ago
    Joe Douglas (new director of college scouting for the Bears) is one of the best talent evaluators I’ve ever been around.

    • Trac

      Winning has a very simple formula. Great coaches, top notch pro personnel, money. For way too long, the Bears org. has been lying to themselves in these areas. I’m very grateful to Emery for being the catalyst that forced the McCaskeys to look in the mirror.

  • Thisguy_justsaid

    I still get a boner when i hear Fangio and Fox as our coaches… just saying

  • Oilcandroid

    Yeah you may be right, but you’re forgetting one thing – he’s stronger, faster, and smarter this year.

    • Waffle

      Great handle. I had an old pirates hat and used to pretend I was him.

      • Oilcandroid

        Thanks, man. Good times.

  • Big Mike

    I miss football

    • willbest

      Football is a regulated narcotic. Only 20 weeks of it per calendar year.

  • Sactowns#1
  • Bears-4-Ever

    There is an additional star in the Mississippi Sky and the Southside of Chicago weeps.

    R.I.P. BB…Long Live the King.

    • SC Dave

      Johnny and B.B. in less than a year. The old guard blues men fade away… It makes Stevie Ray’s early demise all the more tragic. He could have been the guy for the next 30 years – enough to get this old blues fan to the end of the line.

      Or not. Maybe I’ll live 100 more with technology going as it is.

      • Bears-4-Ever

        I saw SRV 5 times, 3 of which front row center. Our family cried when it was announced he was on that chopper. We had tickets to that concert in Alpine Valley and gave them to friends since we couldn’t make it last minute. It was very sad. Eric Clapton, Buddy Guy and SVR on the same stage for the very last time. I still kick myself for not making it. In fact the Chopper was heading for Chi-town because SVR would always play a late concert at Buddy’s Blues Etc. Club when he was near Chicago.

        We all still miss him to this day. He was mesmerizing to watch playing his guitar. When asked who he thought the best guitar player of all time was, Eric Clapton said without a sec hesitation. “Stevie Ray Vaughn”.

      • BearDown100393

        Joe Bonamassa was mentored by B.B. and Gary Clark Jr is a heck of a guitarist.

  • SC Dave

    Offseason takes forever.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Especially when it is consumed by the industrial strength pissing contest being engaged in by New England and the NFL.

      • Trac

        Yup. Having a totally new staff with street cred makes the wait excruciatingly painful as well.

  • Trac

    Ruh roh…. it’s being reported that the engineer was a disgruntled employee at the railroad. Had posted his grievances on his Facebook page.

    hmm……

    • AlbertInTucson

      “I’m pissed at Amtrak so I think I’ll wreck my train.”….?

      • Trac

        Couldn’t possibly happen in this golden age of enlightenment could it?

      • 7source7

        Happened with a plane….

    • SC Dave

      Would this actually surprise anyone? Certainly not me. Train accelerates to double the safe speed heading into a curve. What else would this be?

    • SC Dave

      On the good news side, they are terminating the twerp that bombed the marathon.

      • Trac

        I saw that.

      • beninnorcal

        After a bunch of appeals, hopefully. Fuck that kid, deserves a terrible death.

      • Doc Hamstring

        Even though many families of victims advocated that he not get the death penalty.

        His (mandatory) appeals and time on death row will cost the taxpayer many times what it would to incarcerate him for life without parole. During his life in prison, he’d be able to share more details about what he did so that experts could maybe figure out some strategies to stop future incidents like this from happening. Maybe he could have been rehabilitated and been an advocate against such violence. He would have, admitting his guilt, undermined future radicals–instead, with his execution, he might be held up as a martyr motivating future attempts.

        And let’s not forget that, while in prison, he might be treated poorly and abused the way we “want” our criminals to be abused.

        Instead, we’ll pay millions of dollars to grind him through the appeals process, in order to get an eye for an eye–despite a lot of his victims and their families wanting him to not be executed (I don’t say “live,” because life without chance of parole or death penalty, either way he dies in prison).

        I’m not necessarily anti-capital punishment. I just think that the victims (and/or families) should get to decide. And everything I’ve read, the majority of the victims/families wanted him to have life without parole.

        • willbest

          Which victims/families? You going to have them vote? Why should one victim’s viewpoint overrule another? If there were only 1 victim then he has to take whatever punishment is given, but if there is more than one then he gets what? the least severe? Utter nonsense.

          That is why we have the jury that can weigh the various testimonies and put them into context of societies overall standards.

          You are right about the appeals process though. Its far to long. I propose that a noose and vial of poison be amenities in each death row inmates cell. Just leave them in there the same way hotels leave hand soaps.

          And the only reason it takes so long to execute somebody is there is a whole anti-death industry that is primarily committed to making executions as expensive as possible in order to prevent it as a method irrespective of what the person actually did. Scorched Earth lawfare is a very real thing, and its the result of guilty billionaire heirs and heiresses and way too many lawyers.

          • Trac

            You’re making way too much sense this morning Wil. What happened to you? Hahaha

            Normally after a person is able to make a competent defense of their case as you have, the name calling and character attacks soon follow. Just sayin.

        • BearDown100393

          Make him an officer in the North Korean army. And then let nature take its course.

        • AlbertInTucson

          He should be sentenced to being dropped off into the middle of a minefield.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Well said. Not many pick up on the fact that executing people is way more expensive than locking them up for life. PLus, if you’re locked up for life you get to think over and over about what you did and where you are. The most compelling argument against the death penalty for me is that you can’t allow for new information in a person’s case if you’ve executed them. When you execute someone, you’re saying, right now … based on the evidence we have, and your shitty legal aid lawyer, you’re guilty and you’re going to die. Execution doesn’t allow a wrong to be righted.

    • DaMurph

      Dont know where you read that, but its counter to every article ive read. it was his dream job, all he ever wanted since he was a kid. http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-amtrak-engineer-20150514-story.html#page=2

      • Trac

        There have been hints at a facebook page that was changed right after the accident. It is a valid question Murph that may never get answered. So little to go on right now. It’s a fact that the train did accelerate going into the turn. Somehow he doesn’t remember what happened leading up to the crash? It sounds very fishy to me. If I’m the engineer, I doubt i would forget the events leading up to the crash.

        • DaMurph

          Gotta disagree here, your experience in no way should prove his experience is not valid. My experiences in life mirror his more than yours, but Im not going to say youre lying, because they are different experiences. Ill wait and give the guy the benefit of the doubt until Its proven different. All these people getting vilified by social media is getting on my last fucking nerve.

          • Trac

            Because of social media we only have bits and pieces, so you have a point. It just makes no sense that this guy didn’t realize something was wrong as he approached the curve at 106 mph. I don’t trust people to be honest anymore Murph, my bad.

        • I hit a tree facefirst while sledding as a kid and suffered a skull fracture and severe concussion. I have a gap in my memory between walking up to the top of the hill and waking up in the hospital to the feeling of my feet being tickled and somebody saying “oh good, he’s not paralyzed!”

          It can happen.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Yup, me too. Motorcycle accident. Flew through the air, landed down in a median using my chin (wrapped in a helmet) as a brake. Was told I never lost consciousness, don’t remember a thing until I woke up the next day in hospital. Never got those memories back..

            Just like the Nineties, really ….

    • Doc Hamstring

      It’s also being reported that the train was the target of rock-throwing kids, and it’s possible a rock went through the glass and knocked the engineer unconscious.

      Regardless of the cause–mad/bad engineer, asleep engineer, rock in the head, the technology exists that would have prevented the excessive speed and thus the derailment. Congress cut Amtrak’s funding and refused to give additional funds to get the safety system installed on schedule.

      • willbest

        Or you know Amtrak could turn a profit and pay for its own repairs/upgrades rather than having to go hat in hand to Congress for its 1.5 billion shortfall annually. But then that would be asking it to do something no government company has ever done which is be managed competently rather than be used for political patronage.

        Amtrak is a subsidy by the rest of the country to the Boston-DC corridor, which is the richest area in the country. The travesty in this is that the government was doing something its not allowed to (but then we don’t care about the constitution), something its never been competent at (but hey good intentions), and people died as a result.

      • Irish Sweetness

        It would be truly stunning if the actions of rock-throwing kids (ah, the memories that brings back…) resulted in not only such tragedy, but billion dollar law suits.of such

  • Aaron T. Starks

    This article is pretty on point. Even someone with rudimentary football knowledge can PLAINLY see that McClellin has been poorly utilized his whole career.

    Lovie stupidly tried to make him a lineman when anyone with half the brains God gave a tapeworm sees that he’s a linebacker. Then he suffered for 2 years under the putrid coaching of Mel Tucker. None of those things are his fault.

    • SC Dave

      Agreed. Guess now that he has a chance for some coaching, maybe he will become worth something. Or not.

  • Irish Sweetness
  • Irish Sweetness
  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist
    • Trac

      NC has a lot of meth heads, it’s in the heart of deliverance country.

    • Irish Sweetness

      There’s a place called Zebulon in California ? I think we’ve found those bastards from Zeta Reticuli …..

  • GP Mexican UFO Specialist
    • BerwynBomber

      No surprise. Cutler mentored Rodgers’ little brother at Vanderbilt so they’ve always been friendly/respectful. Though some of it could be Kristin wanting to bump her Q rating.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    so Matt Forte’s name has been seen in trade rumors with Dallas. If the price is right cya Matty

    • Waffle

      wouldn’t feel right getting rid of Forte…..he’s productive and versatile and if used properly by Gase would be huge for the Bears. Regardless of what people think, Forte was not used properly by Trestman at all. What a fucking waste. 3yd dumpoffs instead of plays designed to create mismatches???? Nice job Marc, Mark…whatever the fuck your name was.

      • SC Dave

        And you don’t get rid of the best player on the team.

        • Irish Sweetness

          You don’t get rid of the best player… if he’s at the end of his career … for a second rounder ? When they cost you a second rounder years ago?

          Absofuckinglutely.

          • Waffle

            Irish, you can’t view Forte as an iPhone. The NFL is chock full of instances where draft picks and FA’s don’t pan out. Forte was a 2nd rounder that has panned out and is doing things to keep himself productive past the age where most guys fall off.
            You don’t get rid of a guy to get an unknown quantity when your current guy represents a very well know quantity that can and does still produce at a high level and could conceivably do so for more years.

    • Johnnywad

      What’s the return?

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        not sure, a cowboy fan friend mentioned it to me last night and did a quick google search and there are reports out there on it. I did not take the time to read them.

    • BillW

      It hurts to see this kind of thing happen, but if he really doesn’t want to be here then it’s probably better than holding him too long.

      Somehow it seems yet another casualty of the Emery/Trestman fiasco. Maybe that’s unfair but the Bears were so lacking in chemistry by the end of last year that is the major project of Pace/Fox.

      • SC Dave

        What evidence suggests Forte does not want to be a Bear?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Why did they not draft a RB? Why? Given that Collins would have gone in the first round, they basically have a bunch of first rounders on that line. I can’t believe the Cowboys are going to move for a vet, when they could have paid some kid peanuts to pound the rock.

  • Trac

    Every peace treaty throughout history has been broken at one time or another.
    To be without trouble, being free from things that cause stress, absence from conflict,
    it is temporary because its based on mans ability to keep it.

    There is a peace that comes from God that surpasses all other peace and puts an end to troubled hearts.
    It belongs only to those who are Christs.
    A peace that is inside of you that comes from God that is a gift to mankind.
    Peace with God comes through a belief in Jesus who died on the cross, it is permanent because it’s based on Gods ability to keep it.

    May it be well with your soul my brothers.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      well damn… No peace for me!

    • BillW

      That was very nice to read on a Sunday morning. Thank you for sharing that, Trac.

      God bless you and all on the board – whatever your beliefs.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Let the sunshine in, brothers !!!

  • John Doe

    Pace still trying to deal the two disgruntled Bears who are not invested in the new coaching staff and are not part of Pace’s long-term plan for the franchise. Great if Pace pulls it off and hoards picks in 2016 draft so that he can jump up and pick the best QB to replace INT man Jay Cutler.

    Denver badly needs TE for Manning after their 3rd round pick busted his ACL.

    And Dallas is not sold on Mcfadden and Forte will not cost as much in picks as AP.

    Make it happen, Pace.

    http://sportsmockery.com/2015/05/bears-may-have-an-ideal-trade-location-for-martellus-bennett/

    http://sportsmockery.com/2015/05/matt-forte-tagged-as-perfect-dallas-cowboys-trade-target/

    • BillW

      If they are willing to give a second for Forte (pure speculation obviously from the article) I can’t see how the Bears can’t jump on it. Even a third.

      As far as Black Uni – I would think more than that given his recent production.

      This could be the path to the QB we will need in 16 or 17.

      • Waffle

        A third?

      • SC Dave

        Idiocy either way on Forte

        • NewBearInTown

          Pre-draft, I might have considered a pick in the top of the second round for Forte. Top 40 picks can be pretty valuable and we have a lot of holes to fill still.
          But now, to trade Forte for no compensation till after the season? And without knowing how our trade partner will do, so we know our draft position? That significantly diminishes the value of the pick.
          If I’m the Bears, I listen to all offers, but I doubt the right suitor comes along at this point.
          As to Uni, I’d listen. Not sure I’d take a third from Denver, which is all they’d offer.

        • Irish Sweetness

          It’s not. It’s a no-brainer. You buy a thing for X, and then years later, somebody offers you X, on a depreciating asset. There is literally NO reason not to take X.

          • NewBearInTown

            Unless that thing is a winning lottery ticket.

    • Big Mike

      Because it’s so easy to draft a QB. SMH

    • Irish Sweetness

      Martellus is already on the trade block, but they’rd better not let us get raped like we were on Marshall. That was like the all-time giveaway in Wide Receivers.

  • BillW

    Slowest day on the blog I can remember.

    • BerwynBomber

      The post-draft, post-FA period has set in.

      • SC Dave

        Don’t forget pre-camp too

    • AlbertInTucson

      Zzzzz…Huh?,,,Wha?

  • Irish Sweetness

    Irish’s movie reviews:

    Ex Machina is definitely worth a watch. They rarely make good AI movies, but Alex Garland’s is a treat. This Oscar Isaac guy is in everything now, and he’s in X-Men:Apocalypse and has the main part in Star Wars at Christmas! Love the disco scene.

    Maggie – a weird take on the zombie theme. Arnie looks after his daughter during her ‘infection’. The best acting he’s ever done without a shadow of a doubt. Always nice to see actors grow. Sean Penn. Mickey Rourke. Now Arnold’s taken a step forward. He’s a proper actor now. Great job. Oscar nom?

    Got kiddiwinks? They’ll love Song of the Sea. Irish folklore, well done. Saw it four times this weekend, and no doubt it gets put on again this evening.

  • AlbertInTucson

    I’d like to personally that the Oakland A’s for pushing the White Sox to the.500 mark for the first time this season.

    • Big Mike

      They’ll be fine. All this gloom and doom about the Sox was out of proportion. 85 win ball clubs on the North and South Sides.

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