314 Comments

Four Things At Stake in the Finale

| December 29th, 2015

Screen Shot 2015-12-28 at 6.07.25 PM

(1) 7-9. Is that just a number? To many, sure. But it would also be a fair representation of the progress this organization has made in just one season under their new regime. This has been a coin clip season and 7-9 would accurately reflect the fact that the 2015 Chicago Bears have been narrowly on the wrong side of the coin.

(2) The Completion of a Great Cutler Season. He’s completed more than 63% of his passes for 3,414 yards and thrown 19 touchdowns to only 8 interceptions. But his numbers tell little of the story. He’s been the Bears best player, snatching several improbable victories from the jaws of defeat and doing all of it with a decimated receiving corps and young offensive line. The most remarkable part of Cutler’s season has been his leadership. For the first time during his Bears tenure, this truly felt like the quarterback’s team.

Side note: Cutler needs a monster game to break Erik Kramer’s single season yardage record of 3,838.

(3) Matt Forte’s Farewell? On a personal note, I’m thrilled to be at Soldier Field Sunday with an opportunity to say goodbye to Forte, should this be his final game as a Bear. He’s been arguably the third best Bears running back of the modern era and one of their best ambassadors. A good player and even better man, nobody would complain if the Bears brought Forte back for a few more seasons. But with talented, young depth at the position that seems more and more unlikely.

(4) The Timu Revolution. John Timu has jumped off the screen the last two weeks at middle linebacker and his attacking style/aggression have been exactly what the Bears were missing all season long. A defense that has struggled against the run all season held the league’s two leading rushers in check these last two weeks. It’s no coincidence those were the first two starts of Timu’s career. If that continues against the Lions the Bears may not be looking for two ILB this offseason. They may be looking for Timu’s partner-in-crime.

Add your stakes to the comments section below. We’ll use a couple of the best ones in Friday’s game preview.

Tagged: , , ,

  • SC Dave

    Regarding predictions, I guess we won’t be seeing the Giants in the Super Bowl.

    • That Guy

      Quarterback injuries really having an effect on the playoff landscape so far.

      Carolina, Arizona and New England have their blue chip guys intact. Hard to best against one of those three taking the ring.

      • Scharfinator

        AZ seems to be peaking at the right time of those three.

        • MB30SD

          Out of those 3, I would love to see AZ take it. The other two I’m not a huge fan of… even given the rivera/peanut factor (the cam ik factor overtakes sadly)

        • Irish Sweetness

          They’ve been my pick for the last two years – they peak every week.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Carolina were beaten by the Falcons. A one-man team. Panthers were always were going to be one and done. Cards are for real, have been for years, and if Brady gets a receiver or two back, he’s tough to beat.

        • If the Jets play NE in the playoffs, they might beat them.
          They were a Bmarsh td drop away from.sweeping them this season

  • BillW

    Jeff
    OHare was probably a mess all night. I live close by and it stayed sleeting until after 6. Then rain for a few more hours. An icy mess all day and night. Cloudy this morning but no precipitation

  • CanadaBear

    If Timu keeps it up he will be starting next year. None of the ILB’s have played downhill like he does. I’m sure his height/speed combo kept him out of the draft. Goes to show you how ridiculous the draft/combine frenzy really is.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      agreed that tons of players get passed over, ignored out of the league every single year. I would imagine that is why alot of these guys keep working out, keep trying out and are frustrated because they feel they can compete against incumbents or guys with “names”.

      John Timu, Jonathan Anderson and even Mason Foster jumped off the screen as way more aggressive and downhill than Jones and McClellin and we knew this in the preseason simply by flipping on the damn game. I could only laugh as they trotted out Shea yet again and dumped Foster and Timu before the first game.

      • CanadaBear

        I didn’t see much of preseason (hard to imagine a preseason Bears game wouldn’t be must see TV on Vancouver Island) but I’m sure you’re correct. I honestly think people are getting worse at drafting due to all the attention to the combine. It’s great to have the size/speed combo but if they have no instincts, they are gonna suck moose wang.

        • BillW

          I’m completely ignorant on how coaches act or feel, having never played at any level. But I do wonder if some coaches feel it’s a negative reflection on them if they cut a player that looks to have skills. Like Shea. As if they are saying “if I’m worth anything as a coach, I ought to be able to make something out of him.”

          Guys like Shea I guess can be what is referred to as “coach killers”. Or maybe GM killers.

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t think it’s the coaches at all. It’s the GM that picked the guy that insists they play and stay on the roster. I find it hard to believe that Fangio is all in with CD. I know he says all the right things but that just means he’s professional at his job.

          • SC Dave

            Oh i dunno. Its not like he owes the former GM anything.

          • CanadaBear

            True but it would be very unprofessional to say one of your players is mediocre at best. Esp a starter.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            My thoughts on CD:
            Fangio picked the shiniest turd in the offseason to run the defense and talked him up, hoping he would succeed. It did not pan out. if he is on the team he is a backup/sp teamer.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Shea is not a coach killer because there is no such thing but when compared to other guys in the league in the same role they change and influence games and Shea does not.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But seriously, other than a couple of Mikes around the league who came in as studs: Keuchly, Poz, Kiko … who learns to play middle linebacker in a year?
            Samurai played it in college and it still took him at least two/three years to make it in Chicago. They kept Shea around – probably – because he’s smart. I don’t think he should start yet, but why cut him?

          • The issue w Shea is he seems to lack instincts and aggressiveness, two attributes that are mostly inate.
            He’s also weak and while fast (long speed), not explosive (short area burst).
            This all adds up to a mediocre ILB, and that sir will not stand for the beloved.
            Mike and i were prolly in the minority of backing him this season, but empirical evidence has shown us who Shea is, and that’s a back-up/ sp teamer

        • Doc Nitty

          That draft combine stuff should be used for tie breakers and little else.

      • MB30SD

        McClellin, Conte and a few others I just can’t type out loud all play because of some weird magic going on. I have no clue what or why or how, but guys like that should be thrown away instantly in lieu of real nfl players. Smfh

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          Conte was a weird situation. He couldn’t stay healthy but then flashed ball skills then would make incredible mistakes then wash, rinse repeat.
          Shea is just not an ILB, OLB, DE, in this league. bears can and will do better. That ship has sailed. He’s a good guy and he’s set for life but it’s time to fucking move on.

          • CanadaBear

            Min deal only. Otherwise, C-Ya.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’d keep Shea around and just have him study in the background. Mike is a hard position and he hasn’t been doing it long. Takes time. No way I’d cut him.

          • Sactowns#1

            I would also send him to Joe Andersons pharmacist.

        • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

          Same with C. Jones. I´d give him a last chance at OLB before cutting.

          • MB30SD

            I think he’d probably be better at OLB, like he was in college.

  • Bobby Douglass

    I wouldn’t mind seeing them play some of the guys who would be bubble players next year at camp, assuming the game isn’t close either way. Of course, one could argue a lot of the starters will be bubble players next year, so…

    • MB30SD

      Throw some names out there tiger, don’t leave us hanging

      • Bobby Douglass

        I’d like to see Cutler take a seat if the game is out of hand (+/- 3 TDs? I dunno). I haven’t seen a lot of Carey this year, but folks have been talking him up a bit.

        • I would like to see what Carey could do taking a full load, esp since he doesn’t offer anything on specials.
          Langford is already starting next season. No need to add some milage on him or risk inj

          • CanadaBear

            Carey is playing ST’s now and is making an impact. Glad to see mgmt got through to him that he was either gonna play ST’s and bring it when he gets on the field or go pound sand.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We brought the bubble guys in – too late IMO. Timu, Acho, Anderson. We let Terry Williams go though, that was a mistake. And that receiver Ify Omodu looked good.

  • BillW

    Why I don’t watch (except my Bears):
    I read that a facemask penalty was missed last night, but then “mysteriously” called as the teams lined up for the next play.

    PFT and Mike Periera both feel the league got in the refs ear and told him he missed it. Which as it stands is against league policy (and I’m not sure that is covered in their new process for the playoffs since I think penalties are excluded).

    It is the arbitrary nature of rule or process enforcement that makes me disgusted. We don’t even know who is making those decisions – and the appearance of getting the “right” team to advance is always there.

    I don’t believe the league would do that – but it should go without saying that the rules and processes must be followed uniformly for all games. The fact that they are not is a real problem in my eyes.

    • It looked like the head ref was told by another official it was a face mask, and then made the call. Super weird to be that late, but absolutely the right call.

      • BillW

        Of course it’s the right call. Not the point at all. If it was the league, then it’s wrong to do it arbitrarily. If it was another official, why didn’t he throw the flag? Did he need permission? It’s the indecisiveness and appearance if inconsistency that has ruined the NFL to me. Will they even explain, or will they let the story stay out there that they got help?

        It’s not PFT – it’s Pereira shaking his head that is the issue in my mind.

        • SC Dave

          They had to check with Fan Duel first, hence the delay.

    • Irish Sweetness

      An industry worth as much as the NFL really needs to sort out its officials and have them competent. It’s a joke, and it’s ruining football IMO.

      • Sactowns#1

        Here’s an idea, hire people younger than Methuselah to do the job.

        • BillW

          Seconded (and I’m an old guy so no ageism here).

  • BearDown100393

    The Bears won 6 games this season (to date) and are 1-6 at home. Has the definition of “several” been altered?

    • BillW

      Not sure what you are referring to. Jeff said Cutler snatched several victories – didn’t say anything about where they occurred.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Some tough choices are going to have to be made this offseason by management as well as by the players themselves.
    Alshon may have to be franchised as his inability to stay healthy has turned this gamechanger into a relative non-factor. Even when playing his speed is not there, his ball skills diminished by the broken body and his effectiveness at a very low level compared to what he’s capable of. The problem is that he and his agent will point to what happens when he is healthy and that is why a lowball contract offer from the Bears is not necessary. There will be at least one other team wiling to give that max contract. The Bears should simply franchise him and see how next year plays out.

    Forte must not be given a crazy deal at this point in his career. Forte has a legendary name yet somehow, someway, inexplicably, against all odds…..other Bears draft pick RB’s are actually scoring touchdowns., making great plays and moving the chains when needed (gasp)
    Forte should be given a solid offer if the back injury is not serious because there is no reason why we can’t go into next season with Forte, Langford and Carey as the Trio again. The only holdup here is that Forte is going to scoff at most offers and is notorious for salary negotiations. I’d like to see him remain a Bear but not if the extra couple million from a lopsided deal can secure another position of need on a team hurting so badly on Defense due to injury, attrition and bad drafting. The coaching staff an talent evaluation team of the Chicago Bears will be making this determination of Forte’s value so alot of us can be spared a tongue lashing if the contract ideas we throw out there are not deemed “loyal” enough to others here.

    More WR talent has to be brought in. I personally have seen enough of Bellamy this year….didn’t see enough of Royal….etc.
    The introduction of Kevin White, the franchising of Alshon, the surprising effectiveness of Mariani (AS A WR!) and the development of a raw talent like Cam Meredith will make the coaches have to pick between bringing back Royal, allowing Bellamy to stay on the team and what in the hell to do with Marquess who broke his fucking foot on the last day of practice and needed surgery i believe. Do we stay with status quo or maybe do the coaches understand that there are more fish in the sea when it comes to WR talent to bring in?

    Two more legitimate OL must be brought in to compete for a starting role. Kyle Long will remain at Right Tackle, Leno Jr surprisingly will be in play as the LT again, Slauson at LG/C and Hroniss at C means the RG is the question. Ducasse definitely Ducasse’d us at times this year so maybe he is kept as a backup. Omameh was lackluster at best. We picked up Barrett Jones when he was coming back from injury so maybe they go that route but they must draft another OL to bolster to line. I’d love to see another mauler as it was supremely fun watching the Bears run the fuck over the Tampa D whether they knew it was coming or not.

    Need another TE as I guarantee you that Martellus is gone. Much like Marshall, it is not a talent issue. Martellus is a fucking cancer and a headcase. He is literally the opposite of Miller. Bennett is such an athletic freak that he should be fucking Gronk-style yet he is only that in his own mind. He lacks the passion, heart and buy in that is needed and that the coaching staff wants to see. They want him fucking gone. He played hurt and definitely performed at times but if you simply watched the games you’d see a guy that showed up…..then didn’t….then kind of did….then didn’t….then well you get the picture.

    Need Pass Rushers ASAP. The Bears don’t get to the QB enough with enough heat to produce bad quarterback throws. It would really help our LB’s and Secondary to have guys upfront that scare other O coordinators. Look for the Bears to go gamechanging ILB or OLB passrusher with their first pick, ILB or OLB (whichever they didn’t do with first pick) with their 2nd, S or OL with their 3rd and the rest is BPA. D will be the focus of this draft. Fangio needs toys and we don’t have them right now.
    I have no clue what they are going to do with Houston, Young, Sutton, Ferguson, etc. Young was way too productive but how bad was that leg injury….was it an achilles again?….Can we do better than Sutton? Can Ferguson fit in the 3-4? Can we have Houston pack on 25lbs again and move to the interior?

    Keep Robbie, Keep O’Donnell, maybe send Scales to Mannelly’s house for the summer….

    Deonte Thompson can stick around if it’s up to me. He seems to be a capable kick returner for cheap and can fill that 5th or 6th WR spot.

    More later

    • CanadaBear

      Alshon will probably get tagged. I’m OK going into next year with Alshon, Royal, White and Wilson as the top 4. Typical Bear luck, Q played his best game and then gets hurt in practice. I’m guessing the first two picks are DL/ILB. No way Forte gets a crazy contract. If he returns it will be at the Bears price. They need to pick up a starter on the OL. They also need another TE. Totally agree the Black Uni has played his last game as a Bear. Definitely need another CB and S. That’s a really long shopping list and I can’t imagine all the areas of need will be addressed. Oh well, at least I have faith that Pace can judge talent (the first time in over a decade they have had that) and that the coaching staff can coach them up.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        agreed canada. The arrow is pointing up.

        • CanadaBear

          I still think Fox, coaching wise, is only a slight improvement over Lovie but he certainly can fill out a coaching staff. That is huge.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            agreed but like Lovie, the guys respect him and want to play for him. They believe what he is preaching. He treats them like men. Lance Briggs just admitted that Trestman was the opposite. They didn’t respect him and the team fell into turmoil.

          • CanadaBear

            It would be fascinating to know the thought process PE had when he passed on Arians and hired Nessman. I’ve always maintained that PE hired himself as HC. Both were try hard guys that were never anyone’s idea of a hot candidate and always passed over. Other than that, I can’t imagine any other scenario where you pass up the reigning NFL coach of the year.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            we’ll never know

      • BillW

        The Forte saga will be interesting. He is already negotiating in the press (in my opinion) by saying “poor me, the Bears don’t look like they want me and I so much want to stay here”. To me it sounds like he is trying to publicly shame them into signing him at his price. That stuff turns me off.

        The Bears never said they don’t want him. They are simply reacting to the fact that he is getting up there in years and now apparently has a back issue. They can’t give him (or any player) crazy money out of loyalty – but he sounds like he will play the “disrespect” card if they don’t. I hate when players do that.

        He was well compensated for his talents and will go down as one of the best RBs in Bears history which is REALLY saying something. If you want to retire as a Bear, tell your agent to make it work.

        • CanadaBear

          I think you’re reading too much into the comment. A reporter asked him a question about coming back and he answered it truthfully. He’s even on record saying he knows he’s not going to break the bank and his offers will be limited due to his age. I’ve always thought he was a tough negotiator but fair.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            it’s weird but i don’t want anyone to retire as a bear because that means we get them at the end when they suck. i want him to play at a high level then cut bait then bring him back as a coach and keep him in the organization. i don’t know if that’s possible because feelings always get hurt.

          • CanadaBear

            Honestly, Walter’s last year Neal was better. Walter was way too proud to play second fiddle. He could have played another 2-3 years as a change of pace, 3rd down back and really padded his stats. Wish that would have happened. I think the same thing about Forte. Whether he will accept that role and pay cut is anybody’s guess.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Yup, Neal turned that corner and he was gone. Don’t know if Wally could ever do that.

        • Doc Nitty

          The bears will not be bringing Forte back. If he plays a year or two more, more of Walters records will fall (I can’t remember which ones) and I don’t think the brass wants that. Mark it down, Donnie.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            never thought about it like that

          • Irish Sweetness

            Is he anywhere near any of Wally’s records?

      • madscout12

        Black Uni is gone. He wants to be gone and the staff wants him gone. We’ve not seen anything out of Lee, but the staff may think that he is enough with Miller and another young guy.

        It all comes down to if Forte wants to be here or not, and I don’t think we are 100% on that. The guy has a larger picture in his head than just the bears. Either way, the bears currently control 3 players that make up a competent back-field.

        On O, we need speed and more speed. White can be one, but we need another WR to beat guys with his legs. This guy will be there late in the draft.

        We need more competence/beef on the OL, and that can be had in the draft if not for cheap in FA.

        We’ve gotten competent play out of the secondary for most of the year. It isn’t 2014/2013 play that we saw, where guys were lost. We are relatively young at the position and we’ve seen growth out of those guys. Given a new young talent/guys to compete for the job, I think we can safely move this down on the priority list.

        If I’m the bears, I look for vet DE/DT, OLB, CB/S, or G. Based on the results, I am looking like was said above…toys on defense early, especially in the pass rush , and a speedy WR/big OL late in the draft.

        • CanadaBear

          Surprised you don’t list ILB. I think we are really barren there compared to OLB, I think they have flashed competency in the secondary but for every decent game they have, they also have a disaster game. I don’t see Rolle coming back unless they totally whiff on the guys they bring in.

          • madscout12

            I listed it above, but forgot it here. You’re right…but I think Shea is a decent stop gap if he takes a minimal deal. And with his performance, he should.

            The place for ILB is the draft, given FA moves. I don’t want to see a ILB brought in here who is 29+.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          I cringe when I read speedy WR/big OL because I accidentally read it as big speedy WR and remember the 2014 draft when we selected Ka’deem Carey and within fucking 8 seconds of our selection the Steelers picked Martavis Bryant. They simply could not believe we did not pick him.

          I was watching the draft with friends and received a distressed and drunken call from my buddy Tom who is from Chicago but attended Clemson. We could not believe what we were witnessing.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I don’t watch the amateur game, but damn, I’d swap them in a heartbeat now ….

          • Bender McLugh

            that happened?????? wow…….

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            oh yes my friend. I was despondent as I realized we could have had a 6’5 225lb WR with 4.45 speed for 4th round money.

          • He’s very explosive but has brick hands. But yes, I’d have taken the chance on him over Carey.
            Of course, Emery prolly figured Bmarsh/Alshon/ Bennett were enough (all guys he brought in)

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            never enough tall dark trees

          • Irish Sweetness

            Dude. Martavis and KW. Say bye bye to AJ and sign two vet WRs. Wow.

        • Irish Sweetness

          People forgot Senorise Perry very quickly – he looked like our most explosive back in PS.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’d be calling for Pace’s head if went into a season expecting to win with those receivers. Wilson? I can’t believe he makes the team. Alshon will miss games, and if one guy goes down, you’ve got KW bracketed and we’ve got dogsit at treceiver again. Absolutely must make a FA signing (or two) at WR.

        TE – Will Tye jumps off this list. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/tight-end/

        Amos will be okay if they move him to SS, and Harold might wok out at FS.

        • Sactowns#1

          Thank you!! How many games did Wilson, Alshon and Royal play this year combined? 12?

      • Sactowns#1

        HA! You must have not been watching the last few drafts. The Bears will most certainly draft an offense player in the first 2 rounds despite the glaring need for Dline.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Even if they went OT in the first, I’d cheer that. Protect the golden child.

      • I think next off-season Pace goes a bit bonkers in FA trying to make up for the dearth off talent.

    • madscout12

      How much of a boon would it be for Houston to pack on 25 and move inside.?He belongs there in this D, and it is a disservice to the team to have him on for as few snaps as he is. Imagine our base package w/ Young, McPhee and Houston all getting after dudes, with two of those on the same side of the line. Our DL has been pushed back all year and has sucked against the run. Houston excels in that area, and is a mediocre OLB. Put in another young pass rusher or two, another piece at DL, another dog at ILB, and you’ve got nasty up front.

      • Irish Sweetness

        A mediocre OLB is going to become studly if he goes inside? Nah – this is the Chicago Bears, and the one position I want a stud at is Mike. Danny Trevathan, or whoever.
        Houston is just some dude.

        • madscout12

          No. A hybrid DE/DT in a 4-3 who is a mediocre OLB is going to help a unit that is terrible against the run (still) because it is what he does best. He doesn’t consistently pass rush well, but is an above average rusher. But he does run fit well, and doesn’t often get pushed off his spot. Sounds like a DE in a 3-4 to me.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I just never got the Houston love …. The Raiders didn’t want him … they were too busy drafting a stud OLB in Mack.

      • Doesn’t Houston have the 2nd most sacks on the team? If that’s the case don’t know if i would move him inside

        I’m.w team team Irish, draft a DE and get a vet ILB.

        Inside LBs tend to be cheap in FA.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Keep Robbie? Really? for 4 million dollars? I don’t think so, man. Can’t think of any kicker worth that.

      RB – Even with Perry, Jacquizz, Carey & Langford … I’d still look to draft a banger. And absolutely keep Unrein. As great as Matt has been for us, his agent will want silly money, and even half of what he wants is too much.

      WR – We can’t franchise AJ, but we do need him around. 12.8 Million? No way is he worth that – and he’s playing part-time as is. What’s with all these injuries? Fire the strength and conditioning coach, an start working off Walter’s programs. No need to franchise AJ, because nobody else is giving him silly money. I might stretch to 8M, and ride out KW’s contract. If he does walk, then we must draft a receiver or get busy in FA. To go into next season with just KW and what we have would be insane obviously. We could pick up Travis Benjamin, Jermaine Kearse, Chris Owusu, Kamar Aiken, Seth Roberts, Kenbrell Tompkins – or whoever – plenty of talented vet receivers out there.

      http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/wide-receiver/

      OL Time to draft a another tackle, and get Kyle back where he belongs.

      DE This would be my first round pick. It all starts up front and we need THAT guy.

      CB Maybe in the second round. Porter is no spring chicken.

      • Bender McLugh

        ohhh! the OTHER Brandon Marshall! YES!

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        Perry and Jocksqueeze are just guys (comparatively speaking) and I’d much rather have Forte, Langford, Perry in my backfield. It’s just more flexibility. PerrySqueeze combo doesn’t do it for me and they don’t bring enough to specials for me to care.

      • CanadaBear

        Teams without a #1 WR will line up to sign Alshon. He had 2 injury filled years and 2 years where he played all 16. You’re the same guy that got all squishy over Terrance Tolliver and a bunch of other stiffs. No offense but nobody is hiring you to evaluate their WR’s.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Come on C-Bear, I would never have gone after a Tolliver or Rideau in a bidding war, I just would have kept them around for cheap, compared to what we had, which was bumpf.

          Where do you place AJ in the league of #1s? I have him bottom, or next to.
          And come September – he’s not even our #1. I’ve never seen Kevin White play a game of football and I know he’s a better WR than AJ. AJ only had real use to use when BM was here drawing doubles.

          Alshon is not a #1 guy that commands 12.8M – and folk are worried about Zach Miller staying healthy? I would be stunned if anyone paid AJ 10M.

          Jerry Angelo stole 50-60M dollars from the Bears, so let’s not pretend the guys that work in the NFL are some kinds of geniuses that earn their money. 95% of them don’t.

          • CanadaBear

            I will never understand your lack of appreciation for the Forte or Alshon.

  • BillW

    Somehow I don’t think Fox will treat Sunday as a preseason game. Meaning I don’t think we will see Fales or other “bubble” players – though I do hope he limits snaps for McPhee and any other dinged up player. (Sounds like Goldman is out with a high ankle sprain.)

    At this point I would hope Fox wants the W – especially since they only have 1 at home – and to finish “not last”. It doesn’t mean much I guess, but 7-9 (one game away from 0.500) sounds much better than 6-10. Something about the extra digit in Ls.

    • CanadaBear

      I don’t see Fox ever treating a real game like an exhibition game. Just not in his DNA. Totally agree about limiting McPhee’s snaps. I keep reading that playing on his knee won’t further damage it but that sounds like hooey to me. I’ve had bad knees most of my adult life and every time there was some serious trauma to the knee it got worse (in the present and going forward).

      • That Guy

        I think the bigger concern with McPhee is what Derrick Rose dealt with. You have one injury and it throws off your mechanics, so you start injuring other stuff trying to compensate.

        I’ve heard the “avoid double digit losses” thing from a few different interviews. Motivation is good wherever you can get it.

        • Anonymous

          My suspicion is that DRose’s problems/issues go waaaaay beyond the purely physical. But point taken.

    • Irish Sweetness

      “but 7-9 sounds much better than 6-10. ”

      Do we really think that?

      Question to the blog:

      Would you rather finish 7-9 or pick 3 or 4 slots higher by finishing 6-10. Really?

      • madscout12

        In this situation, I take 7-9. Consider the following…

        we lost close games to teams we should have beaten: @DET, SF, WAS, and close games to teams we could have beaten MIN, DEN, GB. 2 of those should have games came down the stretch when we were in the hunt for a playoff game. If we lose another to DET, 3 of our last 5 are losses to teams we should have beaten if we are truly a well coached team.

        Also, as we’ve seen in the past, picking at 6-10 vs 7-9 does not automatically make a game changer fall to us.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Honestly? Now that we’re not in the playoffs, I’m glad Robbie choked.

          We were a c**t hair away from Aaron Donald and Leonard Williams being Bears. Can you imagine those boys being on that line? We’d be talking SB Shuffle again. Yet all I hear is that it’s better to win those extra two games and finish with a slightly less shitty record. And that’s just plain old bollocks.

          • madscout12

            So, Donald came to us after a year where we were a c**t hair away from the playoffs.

            Williams came after a 5-9 season. We didn’t squeak out any wins that year. Also, you’re gonna tell me that MIN didn’t see a reason to come out a play us tough at the end of the year? They didn’t rest their young QB and talent in that game, despite what could be this year. Now they could win the north.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Let’s settle this ‘not tanking’ business once and for all.

            Question : If by finishing the last two seasons by losing an extra game or two … and you were guaranteed Aaron Donald and Leonard Williams would be Chicago Bears … would you live with the slightly shittier records?

            And I’m not talking losing on purpose here, just the W-L records.

          • madscout12

            Is there an guarantee that, given a chance to pick Donald or Williams, that…

            a) they perform the same under the coaching we have/had
            b) were picked by the GM we have/had

            I think Williams is a yes, and Donald is a no in his first year. Seriously, Tucker was such a POS that he made Julius Peppers look like dog shit in no time. Yeah, JP was getting old and slowing down, but you don’t go from what he was in 2012 to 2013 over night.

            Looking at the draft standings as in now, we’re 14 (with the lions ahead of us…which I don’t know how that works). 7-9 vs 6-10 is probably 4-6 spots…with spots picked being #9-#18, without looking at who is playing who and tie breakers and such. So not a slam dunk either way.

          • Irish Sweetness

            After beating Tampa it’s kind of moot anyway. The time to .. ahem … test the roster was when Robbie had his yips.

          • BillW

            Of course we would. But the fans don’t get a say. Nor should we. again, I have no idea how it works, I just have a sense that winning helps the team better than losing even if the game is meaningless in the playoff picture.

            Should a team not likely to win the SB prefer to lose? Or not even make the playoffs? where does the “I don’t care if we win or not” stop from a coach/GM/player point of view?

          • Doc Nitty

            You play to win the games. Period.

          • Win the games…in 2016 w higher draft picks in every rd

          • Irish Sweetness

            So …. 7-9 is desirable over 5-9 plus Aaron and Leonard?

          • Bender McLugh

            it’s very, very hard to argue with this.

          • Johnnywad

            It just doesn’t hold water Irish. For the most part, the well run clubs continue to play well, end their season in the playoffs, and always draft late. Yet they continue to be good. Conversely, the Browns, Lions, etc. continue to suck damn near every year, pick very early in the draft every year, and still suck.

            Unless you’re looking at a sure fire, once in a decade QB with the first pick, it just doesn’t seem to make much difference. Even at that, Luck was the last one of those, and he’s not bringing Championships to Indy.

      • BillW

        All things being equal, I’d rather the high draft pick.

        But all things are not equal. Getting that pick means finishing 1-7 at home. Losing 4 out of the last five. Finishing with 10 losses and in last place. As a fan I guess you can say “none of that matters”. As a player and more important as a coach and GM (trying to attract Free Agents), I think it does.

        • Irish Sweetness

          But who will remember 1-7 at home beyond next week Bill? What was our H-A record to years ago (no googling)? Free agents? They’ll look at the coach, QB, and say “how much?”

          • BillW

            You’re talking about the fans. As if what the coach and GM is trying sell to players doesn’t matter.

            They shouldn’t care what the fans think – they should only be about building the team the best way they can. I suspect winning helps that better than losing. Then again I never played so maybe I’m wrong. Maybe losing does help the coaches and GM more.

          • Irish Sweetness

            If you want blue-chip studs on the DL it sure helps not to win pointless games at the end of the season.

          • BillW

            No doubt. But if that is really true – that losing pointless games is better for the team, then why don’t teams lose on purpose?

            I agree a better draft choice is better. Obviously. So if they lose I won’t care.

            I do think coaches and players and Pace would rather they win. I simply can’t imagine any good coach or GM thinking “glad we lost so we get a better draft choice”.

  • I think this is a big game for Tracy Porter too. He’s been plain bad the last 4-5 weeks. I’m sure he’ll be back in 2016, but a strong game here changes the capacity in which he’s back IMO. Another bad game and he’s looking at competing for a job on a minimum deal.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Aren’t we #2 in least yards allowed thru the air. He had one whiff that I saw …

    • Bender McLugh

      I’d say Porter has been more flavorful bad than plain.

  • MB30SD

    Uni, gone

    Matty, gone… because he won’t take a more than fair deal (Lach-style)

    Shae, gone (hopefully, bit most like not)

    Alshon, tagged

    Draft:
    1. ILB
    2. DL
    3. WR or DB
    4. DB or WR

    I want a WR who does this: http://media2.wcpo.com/photo/2014/09/07/454857790_1410129008277_7820817_ver1.0_640_480.jpg

    • Irish Sweetness

      You’d really pay AJ 12.8M with all those FAs out there? Mang ….

      • MB30SD

        so who would you use the tag on then? forte? can we again?

        • Irish Sweetness

          And tagging Matt would be 10.85M based on 2014.

          I wouldn’t pay Walter Payton that.

          • MB30SD

            yes you would

      • CanadaBear

        Name 2 WR’s that are better than Alshon and will take 6.4 mil/yr.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Quick check :

          Kearse would probably want 4M, maybe 6?

          Owusu I’ve only glimpsed, but looks skilled, he could be had for peanuts.

          Travis Benjamin is in need of a QB and so hasn’t built up a price tag yet. 25 yrs old.

          Then there’s guys like Hakeem Nicks, Kenbrell Tompkins, Seth Roberts, Brown and Inman from SD .. .we could hire three decent receivers for less than 8M?

          KW, Eddie in the slot, maybe Mariani or Meredith, and bring in 3 dudes that have shown flashes elsewhere. But giving AJ the guts of 13M?? No way.

          Brian Quick is a big talented body ($2M). Mohammed Sanu ($2M).

          Reuben Randle is only 24 and makes a million a year.

    • Bender McLugh

      Forte > Lach in this sense though, right?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Don’t think so. If Matt’s not here next season, other guys can carry it. When Lach left, we had NOBODY to replace him. That was terrible management – same when Olin left. Your franchise guy is getting older, everyone knows this. Prepare for it, have the guy already in place before you exit the talent. Lac called our defense, and we didn’t have anyone in place for him to coach up. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.

        Lac was carrying our defense, Matt is not carrying our offense (now).

        • Anonymous

          Valid points. And yes, though for years Forte has been our best O player, this year it was indeed Cutler.

          Still, I think we will miss Forte next year. I even think we will miss Uni. The flip side is our wideouts and O-line should be better.

        • Bender McLugh

          I agree in this sense completely, I just meant as being a helluva better stand up guy than Lach and that Forte would be easier to give (and possibly him even accepting) a retire-as-a -bear deal. But I wouldn’t blame the dude for taking a ton more from another team if offered…..wherever he goes I’ll root for him, except for GB. Eff the Pack.

        • Scharfinator

          What? Are you kidding me? He was done since Wright ruined his knee in that meaningless Week 17 game against the Vikes. Lach was a liability after that.

          Someone will sign Forte if we don’t. We all see what happened to Lach.

          But I do agree about being properly prepared. Turnover is a guarantee, especially in this violent of a game.

          • Bender McLugh

            yeah Lach was done but not his head, he still ran that defense from the middle even without his legs

          • Scharfinator

            That’s true, but Forte is still whole everywhere.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Interesting to see how realistic his agent is. If he’ll play for 3M …

          • Irish Sweetness

            I think Lac would have been better than what we had for one more year – if for no other reason than to call the defense and line guys up right. Briggs was terrible at that. A slower Lac was still a better proposition, for me.

        • MB30SD

          this is a good point.

          I actually just did the apples to apples as I feel they both want more money that the market will bear. That’s as far as I got.

  • Anonymous

    Cheating and coin flip decisions aside, I wonder what Belichick and the Pats would do if faced with a similar game to what we have Sunday. Would he really run his starting QB out there or would he want to take his back-up out for a spin and see what is under the hood?

    Tanking goes against the whole notion of athletic competition, and I would never advocate it, but in a mostly meaningless game (DET is not fighting for a playoff spot either) I see no harm in emptying the bench to see what some untested guys have. Doesn’t mean you still can’t play to win. You can. But you do it with your second or third tier guys.

    • BillW

      I agree with that. It’s not tanking. It’s not wanting to lose – it’s not caring. It’s a valid way to look at it – but I doubt Fox and Pace feel that way. I do think they are trying to finish on an up note.

      • Anonymous

        Splitting hairs but I would say Fox doesn’t feel that way. Pace I have no idea.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I posted this below, but it’s the crux of it:

        Let’s settle this ‘not tanking’ business once and for all.

        Question : If by finishing the last two seasons by losing an extra game or two … and you were guaranteed Aaron Donald and Leonard Williams would be Chicago Bears … would you live with the slightly shittier records?

        And I’m not talking losing on purpose here, just the W-L records.

        • Anonymous

          I hear ya and that was why I brought up Belichick. He would be the first HC to think outside the box instead of gravitating toward the NFL’s conventional “wisdom”.

    • Irish Sweetness

      That’s still tanking.

      • Anonymous

        Why? Explain.

        • Irish Sweetness

          You’re not putting your best team out there, ergo you’re not really trying your hardest to win.

          Although I wish this is exactly what we would have done the last two years. We would have an awesome defense now.

          • Anonymous

            Nah, tanking is when you are playing to lose. If you believe your definition of it, then you can say we tanked the last few weeks by not suiting up Dez White. Or not playing a dinged starter who might give it a go if it were a post-season game vs. a regular season game.

            Though admittedly it is a gray area.

          • BillW

            *Kevin

          • Anonymous

            Hah! Thanks.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I think ‘tanking’ is a word that gets in the way. Let me rephrase my question above.

            If – the last two seasons – we decided to “explore our roster” shall we say, and started Fales for the last couple of games, and some reserve OL/DL/DBs … to “see what they had” and by thus doing so, gained Leonard Williams and Aaron Donald … wouldn’t that be a good thing?

            Or is it crucial to win meaningless games no matter what, and not have those players ?

          • BillW

            I defer to the coaches on that one. It appears they believe it’s better to win than to lose under any circumstance. So if that’s the case, I want them to win and deal with the “consequences” later.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That’s my point. They’re wrong. To finish 5-11 and have quality additions like those guys, or bust your ass trying to finish 7-9 when you’re already out of the playoffs?

            If the coaches want the 7-9 deal, then they’re morons, no?

          • Scharfinator

            Depends on their job position.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Maybe. Lovie got fired at 10-6.

          • BillW

            Fair point, no doubt. And to take your side, maybe they are doing that selfishly, to better their overall record, and not for the good of the team.

          • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

            but don´t forget that teams get used to losing also, it´s the risk of tanking.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Fox is trying to change a damaged culture of Trestman/Emery and losing this last game to a 6-9 Detroit is not in Fox’s plans no matter what.

          • Lose the battle. Win the war.
            Losing to the Loins mmight have a bonus. Might make them keep Caldwell.

          • Irish Sweetness

            In that case, no , obviously, never play to lose. I don’t think anyione has ever doen that. But …. you can put weaker teams out ….

          • really? you think emery would’ve stockpiled better D players if we had better picks? or you think he would’ve taken the TE from North Dakota A&M?

          • Remember what happened to Lach on Lovie’s quest for mediocrity? He was never the same player after the inj.
            What happens if Cutler acl blows or if McPhee tears his Achilles?
            And for what, 7-9 and dropping 5 spots in the draft?
            Put in the backups

          • BearDown100393

            Wasn’t that injury on a jump ball Hail Mary play? Or am I wrong (again)?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Ha. This! Cutty breaks his leg, smashes his knee .. to beat Detroit … for no reason other than a W. How ’bout them apples?

  • Sactowns#1

    Cutler would have the record had he not tried to make yet ANOTHER ill advised tackle of after an INT. I hope he has learned his lesson and just goes fetal anytime a pick is thrown.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I hope he learns to throw as few INTs as Brady or Rodgers … wait … he’s only thrown one more than both of them. Yowza. Build a wall in front of this man and hire some damn receivers.

      • BillW

        Hey Irish – hope we’re not keeping you up with all this back and forth. It’s after midnight there, isn’t it?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Dude, I was just thinking that, yes, time for bed. Getting jazzed up over defensive linemen we’re not getting ….. yeah …. good night, Bill, and Mr. Anonymous.

          • BillW

            Always a pleasure Irish! I enjoyed it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That honestly got me super-pumped last night, and then I couldn’t sleep for ages.

      • Anonymous

        Our O-line acquitted itself well this year. A couple of bad games but otherwise the pass protection was relatively solid. (Much better than GB’s at least.)

        Our wideouts were another story but don’t expect much in the off-season. The rationale will be that a healthy Alshon and KWhite will make a formidable 1-2. After that maybe they look for another Royal-like slot and some depth at the end of the draft.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Man, the draft and FA are going to be awesome. I liked EVERY pick in the draft. And I trust them in FA. Super-pumped.

          Definitely going to bed now.

  • Bender McLugh

    any takers on Weddle? Him & the Chargers are done and it doesn’t really seem to be a bidding war in the wings for him. The right price would be great I think

    • Sactowns#1

      You know how Irish feels about white DB’s.

      • Bender McLugh

        PROSINSKI!!!!!!!

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        I think Weddle is 1/16th Cherokee

    • MB30SD

      very in for the right price. he’s an animal

  • Doc Nitty

    You play to win the game.

    No tanking. Not against Detroit. I DO NOT want to be swept by a team quarterbacked by an aging Bull-Dyke lesbian.

    • But wouldn’t it be awesome if we lose a hard fought game (with backups).
      We snatch up a defensive stud right before the Loins.
      Because they won a few games down the stretch, they keep Caldwell.

      #loseTheBattleWinTheWar

      • Doc Nitty

        loser talk

        • Losing to win.
          How about that for a weed paradox!

          • Doc Nitty

            That’s the kind of loser talk that is probably responsible for the Lion’s tail-chasing ways. Do not fall into the Matt Millen Tail Chasing Paradox (or MMTCP as it’s known).

          • One huge diff. We do not have Matt Millen as GM.
            However, if we draft another WR in the top 10, I might have to ask for a DNA test.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Detroit is actually a good argument for not tanking. Losing to Stafford is just wrong on some base genetic level.

      • BillW

        I do hope he becomes Wayne Fontes Part 2

  • Doc Nitty

    On a personal note of lack of professionalism, I recently purchased a new marijuana-oil vape. It is so BAD ASS! I don’t even need a lighter. I keep this little cigarette sized vape in my left inside coat pocket and take a pull off this thing whenever and wherever I want practically.This will revolutionize things like, smoking weed while backpacking, smoking weed while skiing, smoking weed while mountain biking, smoking weed while kayaking, smoking weed while walking to a restaurant from my car, smoking weed
    while at a rock concert, smoking weed while doing damn near anything I can imagine.

    What? The wind is strong on the slopes and you can’t get your lighter to work? No problem. Give your lighter to the wind and have a pull on this!

    What? You want to get high but are too soaked in your kayak to even think of it? No problem, this little device fits nicely duck taped to your life vest and doesn’t require dryness to work. You can paddle while you take a pull on this.

    What? You feel the need to smoke without getting off your bike? No problem, simply strap this vape to your camel back. Take a drink, take a puff, all while careening down a mountainside. Is it safe? Well, not really, but you won’t have to get off of your bike to smoke!

    What? You lost your lighter and you’re camping in the woods? No problem. The only fuel this requires is lung power and a pucker. Have a pull on this!

    What? You’re tired of smuggling weed paraphernalia into a rock show? No problem. This small little device fits nicely into your ass hole. You can stroll in without a worry in the world and feel great doing it! Get inside, give the thing a little bath, grab your mouth condom, and have a pull on this!

    What? You’re prepping for winter classes and you need some extra motivation? No problem. Just go take a little walksy around a mostly deserted campus, take a few pulls on this, go describe your experience on Da Bears Blog, and there’s no way your classes could be anything but gold next quarter!.

    You can smoke it on a hike.
    You can smoke it on a bike.
    You can smoke it in a tree.
    You can smoke in on your skis.
    You can smoke it in your raft.
    You smoke it in a draft.
    You can smoke it here and there.
    You can smoke it anywhere!

    You can smoke it on a swim.
    You can smoke it on a whim.
    You can smoke it at your church.
    You can smoke it in a lurch.
    You can smoke it at a show.
    You can smoke it while you row.
    You can smoke it here and there.
    You can smoke it anywhere!

    You can smoke it in the rain.
    You can smoke it on a train.
    You can smoke it at your in-laws.
    You can smoke it while you mow lawns.
    You can smoke it at your work.
    (If you’re tenured that might work.)
    You can smoke it here and there.
    You can smoke it anywhere!

    • Scharfinator

      Someone is fucking pumped to get mellowed out!

      • MB30SD

        it’s doc… doc is the one who’s pumped.

        • Scharfinator

          HELL YEAH MELLOW TIME

    • CanadaBear

      The best part it’s legal in your state. I stopped at a store in Port Angeles on the way to Mesa. Boo-yah! I was kidding with the young guy behind the counter that he should take me out back and get me smoked up. He was trying so hard to be professional about it and I was trying equally as hard not to. BTW the sticky icky is wonderful. The edibles are just OK. My supplier in Calgary had much better edibles.

      • Irish Sweetness

        C- Bear? Really? Okay, my brother, OKAY!

    • AlbertInTucson

      Dr. Seuss would be proud.

      I think.

      • Sactowns#1

        Nah. Not racist enough.

        • MB30SD

          he lived down the street from me growing up in la jolla. love his stuff.

    • Sactowns#1

      lol. We need to go skiing together sometime amigo.

    • Shady

      Any particular brand you’d recommend? You know, for those tobacco enthusiasts in backwards ass states where mary jane is currently against the law.

      • Doc Nitty

        I forget the rest of you fools are stuck in the 20th century. We can just go in a store now and pick from a menu where each type is listed by THC %. Poor bastards.

    • Irish Sweetness

    • Irish Sweetness

      Dude, I have to ask, cos, y’know … how does weed and math go together?

      • Doc Nitty

        Like oil goes with water. Easy fix though. Don’t do math when you smoke weed and don’t smoke weed when you’re doing math.

        ( I see what you did there with the cos thing.)

    • Irish Sweetness

      And voter-uppers … y’all are in their database now. Enemies of the state. Although technically, y’all have been listed as enemies since Emergency War Powers was enacted and that hasn’t been lifted, so really …

      {IRISH !!! NOOOO!}

      Sorry.

      • Doc Nitty

        Clearly somebody has hacked our accounts.

      • CanadaBear

        It will be legal in Canada in the next few months! WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

  • FF talk

    Not looking good for GP’s “Chewbacca’s Defense”.

    http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/boxscorequick?leagueId=835653&teamId=1&scoringPeriodId=17&seasonId=2015&view=scoringperiod&version=quick

    I’m up 140-90 on him, and he would need one of his players to go ape shit and score like 50 to make up the difference, or for my guys to tank (not bloody likely).

    He does have a few players who can indeed score 50 (ODB, Cam, maybe Watkins), but it’ll take a monumental upset for him to beat me.

    On the other hand, it can be done. I was down by about that much to NBIT a few years back in Shady’s league, and I picked the Titan’s D, a sucky D for most of the year, and I rode them and a rook named Alf to Shiva glory.

    That being said, Chewy’s going down!

    The funny part? I’m in another league I accidentally joined (I thought I was mock drafing, when I was REALLY drafting), and I am 12-1 and also in the championship, but getting my assed kicked over there.

    But, in that league I was even more racked with INJ and llimped into the playoffs.

    C’est la vie.

    • Sactowns#1

      That league died the day I didn’t make the playoffs. A pox on your infernal league. A POX!!

      • Can’t make it to the playoffs with a 6-7 record!
        Heck, Bears 505 couldn’t even make it with a 9-7 record.

        #winToGetIn

        Maybe next year!

        (Though I’m gonna be handing out certain awards, and I think you might win the best value player in Freeman).

      • Doc Nitty

        OOH! OOH! You’re going to win an award! Hip Hip! Hurray! Hip Hip! Hurray!

        #FuckFantasyFootball

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          #angel dust lacedVape?

          • MB30SD

            the breakfast of champions.

        • BillW

          I’ll never read another post of yours the same again. Always will wonder if you are “vaping”

          • Doc Nitty

            It’s okay. Weed only brings out the finer parts of my personality.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Dude, I quit smoking everything last week. Doctor put me wide. I literally dream about scoring weed now.

          • MB30SD

            that shit’ll kill ya maings.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Hey, Lemmy got to 70, man. Lemmy fucking Motorhead.
            I cannot afford to die before then. Got to square away the Benjamins for the Kinder.
            Hence … no booze … no drugs … getting my learn-on.

            FUCK.

          • MB30SD

            good man! Yep, I figure once I see the grandchilluns for a couple/few years, I’ll be good. If I make it past 75ish, it will be a big win.

            My only vice seems to be pussy these days. Hard to OD on that shit… at least hard to OD without a huge fucking smile on your maw.

          • If you don’t mind dying from a vice, is it still a vice?
            If I OD from pussy, color me tickled.

          • Doc Nitty

            Why on earth would you do that? You tell him that you consulted with your doc in the states and he said that you should actually smoke MORE weed. Then you sue him for malpractice.

        • MB30SD

          hallelujah brother!

          • Says the guy who gets owned by Shady in video games!

            Pshhh. They’re ALL games!

            No different than monopoly or chess or call of duty or hop scotch.

            NBIT plays chess and FF.

            From what I hear, he kicks ass in chess but finished nearly dead last in FF.

            So by the transitive law of property, FF requires more brain power than chess.

            That’s why GP and I are in the championship, and Shady won it last year.

            Cuz we’re geniuses!

            #logic!

          • Doc Nitty

            Call of Duty doesn’t ruin real football.

          • MB30SD

            hallelujah brother!

          • MB30SD

            ahem… Shady and I switch off most of the time. jerk.

            at least he’s not too scared to challenge me!

            My kung fu is bettah than yours… you think you’re goot… I’ll kick your ass, you bastahd!

          • If I felt like getting beat by teenagers, I’d visit south side!

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            my neighbor got her car stolen last night and there have been 2 armed robberies at ATM’s all in the last week. Impressive!

          • Irish Sweetness

            This guy might have it.

          • MB30SD

            Oooooooooh… buuuuuuurn!

          • Shady

            yes… escared…

  • Todd Bowles coach of the year?

    Making the J-E-T-S respectable is one thing, but making them playoff caliber and nearly knocking off the Pats twice?

    That’s nearly miraculous. That’s like turning the Browns around.

    • MB30SD

      fuck todd bowles. I’d vote kelly!

      • Bender McLugh

        i have no idea why but I just don’t like Bowles

        • MB30SD

          Racist

          • Bender McLugh

            HA

    • Anonymous

      Could be Rivera. Tough to say. Bowles should get votes. As will Reid, Arians, Kubiak, etc.

      Kubiak could be a strong case. 11-4 and Peyton basically either sucked or was unavailable the entire year.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He should send Brandon a pile of comics.

  • BillW

    Sounded like Jeff was leaving for Chicago today. Wonder if he made it out. Lots of cancellations still today at OHare but I assume inbound is ok

    Assuming the weather in NY isn’t bad

    • Johnnywad

      I imagine he’s riding to Chicago in a rented box truck with Gus Polinski, the Midwest’s King of Polka, and his band.

      • BillW

        I’m sorry it took so long for me to see this. Post of the week!

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    To anyone worried about picking a couple slots higher because of a 7-9 record you can calm yourself like a DocNitty vapebang by simply reading who was selected in the 1st round after Fuller. Imagine the following guys in a Bears uniform:
    Ryan Shazier
    Zach Martin
    CJ Mosely
    Calvin Pryor
    Brandin Cooks
    Haha Dix
    Darqueeze Dennard
    Deone Bucannon
    Kelvin Benjamin
    Dominique Easley
    Jimmie Ward
    Bradley Roby
    The list after Ego Ferguson in round 2 is just as fucking crazy.

    • Aaron Donald.
      Leonard Williams.

      And if anyone advocates a gem in any round.

      Cool.
      Then we can trade down and pick up extra studs.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        oh, there is no doubt that not moving up to get Donald or WIlliams was a mistake. I wanted very much to do that two years in a row. that would have been a ballsy move to bring in 2 gamechangers.

        • The thing is, most fans just focus on the 1st rd.

          But having a top 10 pick in EVERY rd is much better than say 14.

          Those who know about drafts recognize that around 12-13, the blue chips are gone.

          But lots of times guys fall to the top of the next round, guys like Landon Collins or Alshon Jeffery, and having a high pick in rd 2-3 etc makes it more likely that we can swoop in on those guys who fell, or will get us closer to trading up and scooping them up.

          And like I said, if one subscribes to “gem anywhere in the draft”, well then, having a higher draft pick means we could trade down and pick up more gems to plug in all the holes.

          The draft, like life, is all about options.

          The more options you have, the better.

          Or as George Costanza so sagely says, “It’s all about hand.”

          Who gives a fuck about the Loins? They’re clown shoes. If it were the Pack, and we could play spoiler, then yeah, all in.

          But the Loins? It’s like beating the Browns. Who cares?

          Half these guys aren’t gonna be here next year anyways, so it’s going to be a totally different culture.

          It’s not like the Lovie teams where he kept most of the roster.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I’d honestly trade our 4,5,6,7 to get another 3. Then try to take our two 3’s to get another low round 2 or high 1.
            Or trade our 3,4,5,6,7 to get a 1

            #Vape Dreams

          • That’s how I do it in Madden!

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            haha, then let’s make it happen!

          • That Guy

            It never works out that way. Atlanta basically did that to get their WR group, and its a great WR group. But they’re so thin elsewhere.

            The teams that win consistently… Seattle, New England, now Carolina and Arizona. They’re winning because of their mid-round picks. Those third day picks are huge.

            Don’t forget, after a year or two nobody cares what round you were drafted in.

          • And I don’t think SEA, NE or CAR spent a 1st rd pick on a WR.

            That’s why I wanted to trade Alshon for draft picks at the start of the season and everyone was calling me crazy.

            Crazy like a Fox!

        • Irish Sweetness

          I think the only time I ever would have actually pulled the trigger on moving up was for Keuchly. We really needed a middle linebacker. Don’t know what that would have cost though.

          • That Guy

            I remember that year. I wanted to make that move bad, but we didn’t have the juice. Would have taken our whole draft class to make that move. And as good as Luke is, you can’t draft like that (see Mike Ditka: Ricky Williams)

      • Shady

        ODBJ.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/videos/Carey_1yard_touchdown_run/a8769fcb-a43c-4160-875e-3ed25b63964d
    Holy Shit, on the Carey 1 yd TD run watch Ducasse and Long annihilate everyone in front of them. Grassu attacks the 2nd level and Khari Lee seals off the end.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/videos/Carey_1yard_touchdown_catch/50a01953-32bd-40e6-8452-3e186fec60ab
      then on the next chance the OLB and ILB are so concerned with the run from the same formation that Carey slips out into the flat.

      The sexiest part of this play is how fucking wide open both Khari Lee and Zach Miller are in their crossing routes on the other side of the field. This is a well drawn up play and they could have walked in on 4 of the 5 routes.

      • MB30SD

        are you fucking kidding me with that michael jackson?!?!

        THAT… was amazing!

        • Irish Sweetness

          MWAH !! How did that fat guy in the Tampa shirt not even smile at that !!?

    • That was awesome big boy football. They just drive that Dlineman and bury him.
      Get a shovel!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Those boys have some big arses.

  • MB30SD
  • Doc Nitty

    This seems interesting, though I’m only one song in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qvi9gjRwKk

  • Wow. CHIP KELLY. TERMINATED!

    • Shady

      Hasta la vista…

      • MB30SD

        two cookie references in one sentence!!!

        • Shady

          Love me some DLP.

          • MB30SD

            hells jes you do. Who don’t?!?!

            That’s what old Jack Burton always says….

            who?

            Jack Burton…. ME!

        • I think I literally watched that movie over 50 times. Growing up, I’d watch it on repeat.

          Porkchop express, baby!

          And Raiden before there was a Raiden!

          • MB30SD

            yup, it was showing the other night and realized I know pretty much erra line.

            Fucking great movie.

        • Doc Nitty

          To be fair his comma probably should have been a period.

          • MB30SD

            yikes

    • Anonymous

      I will miss him. He wasn’t a bad HC. GM was another story.

      • Kelly to the Lions?

        Maybe the Titans or USC, my best guess.

        • Shady

          Browns.

          • Scharfinator

            That would be so fitting. He’d say he could get Manziel to work, then the Browns eternal torment will continue.

          • That Guy

            Dunno, I think Kelly has a future in the league. Bellichek was terrible in Cleveland, took his bumps, and emerged a much better coach in New England. I could see Kelly putting it all together if he gets another shot. But I also think a year or two as the OC for someone like BB, Jeff Fisher or even Fox would do him a lot of good just seeing a master of motivation work with NFL personnel.

            It would be fitting if he went to Cleveland and did well. The city could finally get to see the other side of the Bellichek thing.

          • Shady

            Titans & Marcus Mariota.

          • MB30SD

            I don’t know NB, I think he’ll go back down. Seems like those guys are treated like gods and have a LOT more room to work and/or not work. My bet is he’ll head back to college. Pretty sure I would in his position. much less scrutiny and a hell of a lot more fun.

          • That Guy

            Maybe he’ll do the Harbaugh thing, but I don’t think so. I think he wants to be successful in the NFL. Harbaugh got close enough that he can say “I could have done it if I stayed.” Kelly still has a lot to prove.

            He’s a great coach, but he’s also got a huge ego. Egos like that don’t tolerate failure. And he’s already won at college coaching. The only accolades left for him there are more about longevity than talent.

          • MB30SD

            Good points

          • Scharfinator

            You can point at Bellicheat, but he’s an exception rather than the norm. A lot of college coaches try their hand at NFL ball and then are back in college in 2-3 years.

          • BearDown100393

            Perfect.

    • beninnorcal

      Least shocking thing I’ve heard in a while

  • Shady

    Onion Rings* on with Holmes right now.

    http://player.radio.com/listen/station/670-the-score

    *Mitch Unrein – American football defensive end and Goaline Fullback for the Chicago Bears

  • Irish Sweetness

    Jefe, this is for you – what language are they speaking?

    • MB30SD

      there was a “two years” in there somewhere right? The rest was greek right?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Ah, I miss those fuckers …

        Go to bed.

        • MB30SD

          but, but… it’s not even 9 daaaaad!

  • Pissed Off

    Cutler apologists and fox apparently will say that he’s had a lot of different wrs and tes to throw to all year. Tell that to those guys. They are all pros too. Low yardage total this year and not many td passes for what we need from him and his contract. I do like the low int number for sure.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He’s been one of the most consistently excellent QBs in the league this year, with one of the poorest WR corps in the league. If you haven’t been impressed by Cutty this year, then you will never be impressed by anything – as the handle clearly suggests.

      • MB30SD

        insufferable dooooshbeeg fatalist. that’s that dude’s issue. man, must suck to have every sky possible always falling. yeesh

        • Pissed Off is our exiled Romanian douchaine!
          All he needs to say is “fart face” to complete going to the dark side.

          • MB30SD

            there’s about what, 3-4 of those depressing fucks here now. So brutal. Just takes the air outta this whole place. About 2 others in dire need of a double daily dose of prozac too. Jesus.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i thought it was “fart knocker”

      • AlbertInTucson

        I don’t see who these Bears beat this year if you remove Cutler from the equation.

      • Pissed Off

        Excellent……..cmon guy

  • Anonymous

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog “Chip Kelly learned NFL lesson 1. It’s never about the scheme. You need great players.”

    No. When you have a scheme like Kelly’s, it is about getting players who fit it. DeMarco Murray did not. But it is not because Murray isn’t good. He’s excellent. But like AP he is better in the traditional I-back role.

    • AlbertInTucson

      ” …it is about getting players who fit it. DeMarco Murray did not. ”

      Murray was Kelly’s own doing, or rather UNdoing.

      • Anonymous

        No doubt. Kelly the GM even managed to make Phil Emery looked competent. Well, excluding the Trestman hire and Cutty contract.

  • MB30SD

    Holy shit: http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/29/autos/tesla-fast/index.html?iid=ob_homepage_money_pool&iid=obnetwork

    Impressive car, impressive company, impressive founder… wait, where’s he from again?

  • Anonymous

    This notion that Kelly can’t coach in the NFL is a) insane, and b) based on the usual NFL snobbery/fallacy that college coaches can’t cut it in the NFL. Bottom line is some can and some can’t.

    Kelly was 20-12 his first two years with QBs Nick Foles and Mark Sanchez. Moreover, the team was 4-12 before he took over. The mistake was giving him full GM power. That works for no one not named Belichick. It also sounds like he could work on personal relationship skills. He apparently makes John Fox seem cuddly.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Do we care if John Fox is “cuddly”?

      • Bender McLugh

        Dooonnn’t Caaarreeee

    • From what I’ve been hearing, Kelly was demanding GM powers still.
      So, he got canned.

      Don’t know if Kelly was pulling a Costanza, trying to get fired so he can go elsewhere, but it was obvious his personnel moves busted.

      Maclin is doing fine in KC. Shady McCoy looked good in BUF. The Eagles are stuck with Murray’s contract. Maxwell stunk in Philly, and Bradford didn’t even want to sign a long term contract.

      Did Kiko even play this year?

      I simply don’t think Kelly’s system will work in the NFL.

      The closet to that uptempo system is probably Peyton in his prime in that no-hurry up, but that was more Peyton than the coach.

      • Anonymous

        It worked for the first two years. Is it sustainable? I don’t know. But wouldn’t shock me if Kelly could tweak it and make more accommodations to the pro game. Or even scrap the system and tweak a more traditional pro offense.

        His failings this year seemed based on two things: bad GM moves and bad player/coach relationships. In other words, less about his system and more about things outside it.

        My bet is he will head back to the college ranks. But if he were interested in staying in the pros, I would second what That Guy suggested: go OC a few years under a proven HC.

  • MB30SD

    so I’m almost 43… I’m on vacation and have been meaning to shave, but just haven’t found the time. This is the first time I’ve actually started to grow a beard (our of sheer malaise) in many many years…. and there is so so much grey. hahaha Weird looking in the mirror actually. Guess these things happen when you’ve shaved your head for the past 15-20 years. smh.

    • Irish Sweetness

      i’m 43. I like it – the silvery look. Beards are a no-no in Thailand, but I love sneaking a beard in twice a year. Silver and grey and black. Distinguished, my friend.

      Of course those nymphettes you hang with now won’t want the up-n-down rash. Ha.

      • MB30SD

        exactly.

        My kids also hate it. Daddy, your beard is so sharp! Don’t kiss us! hahahaha

        • AlbertInTucson

          I had a full beard for about 18 years. Wife’s idea after we first were married.. It came in nicely. We liked it.Kid came along and loved to stroke it as an infant and toddler. A liitle salk was OK and I kept it close-cropped.Then when the “sal”t took over we deceided is was time to go and i shaved one Christmas morning 8 or 10 years ago and scared the daughter who’d never seen me without it.

          Major complaints; The gray ones are more coarse and it made me look to years older.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I never really minded the “it makes you look old” comments. I like looking my age, I fucking earned it. I’m proud of reaching 43 – lots of people don’t ever get that far. That’s a lot of bullshit to put up with and go through, right?

            You know what makes men look old? Having a shock of jet black/purplish/orange hair when you’re clearly over fifty.

        • Irish Sweetness

          That’s the only reason I don’t have one! There’s no law against beards, but there aren’t any laws about smelling bad either.

          Once the twins don’t want a smooch because of facial hair … OFF!

          • MB30SD

            Exactly

          • Doc Nitty

            Did you just equate having a beard with smelling bad? Has the whole world gone CRAZY?!?!?!

        • CanadaBear

          My dad had a ton of facial hair but he always shaved. He loved to grab me as a kid and give me a whisker burn (cheek to cheek). I always howled and complained. What I wouldn’t give for one from him now!

          • MB30SD

            Yeah, life is weird canada. I miss my mommy a lot. :_ (

      • Doc Nitty

        Why are they a no no?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Associated with homelessness, thievery, poverty, ne’er do-wells etc.
          Can’t afford a razor blade … SMH.

          On a couple of occasions I was asked to remove my beard, asked my students what they felt about that and if they agreed with management …..and they all nodded! The social engineering is crazy, hence they’re cool with one man having all the cash in the country.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        i grow a beard almost every winter, I found several girls love it once it’s grown in, tickles their thighs. I am starting to go a little grey, which for some reason is a little coarser.

    • DaMurph

      And you dont look a day over 39!

      • MB30SD

        Hahaha, thanks. Dick!

    • CanadaBear

      I’ve had one since I retired. Keep it short. Forget the pepper, it’s almost all salt. Who cares? Matches the hair on the top of the head. My Little Love Dove likes it and that’s good enough for me.

    • Scharfinator

      Yeah man, I’m 28. This one time I almost saw a grey hair.

      http://i.imgur.com/7hxzUvX.jpg

      • CanadaBear

        FUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • MB30SD

        Hahaha… oh I don’t really give a fuck yo, it’s just weird cause I still think of myself/view myself as 22. ; )

        As long as I can still bang 24 yr olds, I’m fine with a few grey hairs on my balls…. I shave em anyway

        • Scharfinator

          <3 My idol

  • Irish Sweetness

    What would you give to wear a dinosaur suit and scare the wits out of people as their elevator doors opened?

  • Irish Sweetness

    Ever seen one of these? It’s called a hand-pan apaprently. Beautiful sound, eh?

    https://www.facebook.com/boji/videos/10153335109403971/

    • Doc Nitty

      That is REALLY cool.

  • Irish Sweetness

    For you baseball fans.

© Da' Bears Blog