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Everything We Learned About the NFL This Season.

| February 3rd, 2015

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Top NFL Teams Separated By Merely a Play

Look at the fates of the NFC’s best teams in the month of January.

  • Detroit loses to Dallas after a pass interference flag is announced and walked off by the game official and then ludicrously picked up. (Has anybody yet given an explanation of this?)
  • Dallas  loses to Green Bay after a Dez Bryant catch – a spectacular catch – is deemed a non-catch by one of the more ludicrous rules in the NFL rulebook. (And in my opinion a gross misinterpretation of that rule.)
  • Green Bay loses to Seattle with a ludicrous late-game collapse featuring a tight end dropping an onside kick that hit both of his hands and his face.
  • Seattle loses to New England with the worst play-call in the history of professional football, asking a non-pocket passer to pocket pass a tight-window slant route on the goal line, at the death. (And do so with the league’s most physical runner just, you know, standing around.)

In all four of these games a serious argument can be made for the losing team deserving victory. That’s how close the league has become at the top.

Roger Goodell is a Dipshit

Forget about The Commish’s fumbling the Ray Rice situation worse than Marion Barber in overtime and burying an illegal deflation of footballs story deeper than Jimmy Hoffa in a desperate attempt to keep the asterisk-lovers away from his blessed Super Bowl. It was Roger the Dodger’s response to Rachel Nichols’ pointed and perfect questions at his Super Bowl State of the League address that cemented his role as certifiable dipshit.

Goodell did not address a single male reporter in a similar manner. From a piece in the LA Times:

“Goodell has proven he’s really grown as a person through this difficult season by belittling & patronizing Rachel Nichols. #ClownCommish,” tweeted CBS Sports Radio reporter Damon Amendolara.

“Given that Rachel Nichols is trending, I’d say Roger Goodell undermined that message of humility and change. #NFL,” tweeted ESPN reporter Jane McManus.

“Goodell getting salty with Rachel Nichols for her question about conflict of interest in the NFL. Excellent question that he failed to answer,” tweeted Molly McGrath of Fox Sports 1.

The Park Avenue Pontiff was a bully commissioner for many years but 2014 was the wimpy kid who punched him in the face and made him cry in the schoolyard. Now when the bully asks for lunch money, he gets laughed at.

Draft Analysis is Overrated (I Already Knew This)

Who were the four stars of the Patriots Super Bowl victory over the Seattle Seahawks? Tom Brady (6th round pick), Julian Edelman (7th round pick), Rob Gronkowski (2nd round pick) and Malcolm Butler (undrafted).

How many players caught passes for the Seahawks in the Super Bowl? Five. How many were drafted? One. Marshawn Lynch. By the Buffalo Bills.

Months will be spent on mock drafts by every human being with access to WordPress. Mike Mayock will fawn over the athletes at The Combine – the creepiest event in all of sports for anyone who thinks historically. (A large number of white guys measuring the vitals of black guys they are looking to put to work? No, there’s nothing historically relevant there.) After the picks happen weeks are spent analyzing and grading those selections before the players have even played.

Draft weekend – selections and signings – is an NFL organization’s spinal cord. Teams must stock up with talent over those several days or be doomed to overpay talented footballers on the downsides of their careers. But there is simply too much over-hyping and over-analyzing in the lead-up considering an overwhelming majority of that analysis is nowhere near correct. Not only are most player evaluations off by a substantial margin but the importance placed on the early rounds has been nullified by the number of productive NFL players emerging from the later rounds. Teams don’t live and die in the first round anymore because the financial ramifications have been diluted. It’s become less important to grab the star player in round one (with the quarterback exception) than to grab 5 contributors over the course of the weekend.

TOM BRADY IS THE GREATEST SUPER BOWL ERA QB

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The reasons:

  • Joe Montana won four Super Bowls in four tries with one group of Hall of Famers and one of the greatest offensive systems ever conceived. His achievement is monumental but Brady’s six Super Bowl appearances and four wins over a decade plus in the free agency era is more impressive.
  • Free Agency began in the NFL in March of 1993. Since that date, four QBs have won two Super Bowls: Aikman, Elway, Roethlisberger, Eli. Brady has four.
  • Brady has done the most with the least. Rob Gronkowski is the first great offensive weapon with whom he’s won a Super Bowl. (His weaponry for the almost-undefeated season was spectacular and he set records.)
  • People always state Brady has been in one system his entire career. Has he? Go back and watch the six Super Bowls Brady has competed in. Coaches may remain but the offense changes every two years depending on talent.
  • He is part of a cheating regime. But I don’t think the cheating was drastic enough to move him out of the top spot.

FIVE SHORTER THOUGHTS…

(1) Did anybody not love the London early morning game? (Maybe those on the west coast.) People might think I’m crazy but I prefer the early Sunday morning game to the Sunday night game – especially when the Bears play midday Sunday. I watched every snap of Lions v. Falcons.

(2) Marc Trestman is an awful head coach.

(3) Odell Beckham Jr. is the most electrifying wide receiver to enter the NFL since Randy Moss.

(4) Are we entering an era of the devalued head coach? San Francisco eagerly moved on from a head coach who was 20 games over .50o the last four seasons. Denver mutually parted ways with a head coach who was 46-18 in four years, winning four division titles and going to a Super Bowl. In days gone by those types of runs would earn the coaches lengthy, money-laden extensions. Today? Everyone thinks they can do better.

(5) Ten teams turned the ball over 21 times or less in 2014. Eight of those ten teams made the playoffs. The three teams that turned the ball over the fewest times? New England, Seattle and Green Bay – the league’s three best teams. The sport ain’t that complicated.

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  • NewBearInTown

    Not to hijack the thread, but this is an awesome story.

    http://www.newsweek.com/how-card-game-about-exploding-kittens-broke-kickstarter-record-303771

    My favorite quote is the last line: “Money is sort of a false problem if you have a good idea,” he says. “Getting people to get excited about what you’re doing, to love and understand it and advocate for it, all the money in the world can’t buy that.”

    • Soldiers without country are called mercs, and advocates without convictions are called lobbyists. Pretty sure this country is overrun with the latter.

      OK. cynicism off.

  • Johnnywad

    Jeff,

    I love what you write. I agree with you very nearly all of the time.

    While I enjoy the rest of the piece, I absolutely hate the NFL Combine to slavery comparison.

    Respectfully,

    Johnnywad.

    • John Doe

      You may hate it but it is the truth.

      Slaves were indeed inspected physically and those healthy and well built fetched more money.

      NFL Combine is no different when teams with a bunch of white owners inspect physical attributes of a largely black group.

      • Johnnywad

        You mean other than the fact that its completely voluntary, that there are whites and Hispanics there as well, that they are quite privileged to have the chance to get paid millions of dollars to play a game they would play for free because they love it, and that nobody sells their wives or children, and that they can retire whenever they like, and that people across the globe idolize them and that they live a life few of us can imagine?

        Yeah, other than that it’s just like slavery. Did I mention they get to leave whenever they want?

        • AlbertInTucson

          Game.Set.Match.

        • Ososfan

          Or the fact that the Jaguars are owned by an Pakistani Billionaire….

        • Irish Sweetness

          Comparing the combine to slavery is a complete lack of the ability to perceive well.

          • AlbertInTucson

            It’s also pretty insulting to people who actually WERE/ARE enslaved.

        • Scharfinator

          Hee hee, my favorite post from you, Johnny.

        • SC Dave

          !!

    • DaBearsBlog

      You can hate the comparison all you want. Other than the prospect of money changing hand, I don’t see how can anyone deny its existence.

      • Johnnywad

        I just disagree Jeff. Saying the NFL combine is just a pile of money away from slavery is crazy. Its nothing like slavery.

        • DaBearsBlog

          It is not like slavery. It is exactly like slave auctions. Exactly.

          • Johnnywad

            That I can see.

          • Shady

            I’ll agree the combine and evaluation process has gotten a bit weird, even though I think it’s somewhat understandable considering the amount of resources teams are pouring into these players black, white or otherwise these days. I’ll also admit there are certain parallels you could draw between a majority white team ownership and majority african american player in any sport. But to say it’s EXACTLY like slave auctions?? That’s simply wrong… Sorry Jeff, but that’s just a stupid fucking ignorant comment and I’m embarassed for you.

          • Johnnywad

            Visually, its there. It is a bunch of white guys eyeballing a bunch of black guys, albeit along with whites and hispanics. That’s about it.
            Everything about slavery was awful including the auction. The combine is full of nothing but promise and hope for those involved. At the end of the day the two couldn’t be farther apart.

          • Trac

            Theatre for the masses?

          • willbest

            Except that the seller of the player in the NFL is the individual, and in a real slave auction, the seller is the 3rd party owner.

          • TheBigCheesy

            except that NFL players are willing participants. Not exactly a trivial distinction…

          • At least they don’t anally prob you at the combine like in astronaut tryouts.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Do we really need to point out the obvious difference between an actual slave and a millionaire sportsman?

            If you were a journalist, and not a blogger, you’d lose your job for that. Vive la liberté!

          • Trac

            Unfortunately you are incorrect Sir. Anyone the can fan the fires of racism is a valuable commodity in the media these days.

          • SC Dave

            Give this one up, Jeff. You’re exactly wrong. Exactly.

        • BerwynBomber

          Team physicals are like slave auctions too!

          I kid, of course.

          This is ALWAYS the problem when you start comparing individuals who play a sport that literally hundreds of thousands would wish to play (and get well paid for) to slavery. It is ultimately a stupid, half-baked analogy.

      • Irish Sweetness

        No one can deny the existence of a terrible comparison, no, it’s there. Correct.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I agree with the metaphorical comparison to a certain degree.

        I think there’s another facade to it… the viewers that watch it on TV or read about it are also forced into it.

        I think I’d rather compare it to the gladiator ‘scene’, more than the slave one.

  • John Doe

    “Not only are most player evaluations off by a substantial margin but the importance placed on the early rounds has been nullified by the number of productive NFL players emerging from the later rounds.”

    And that is why having more picks is better than trying to hit a home run with that one pick.

    Phil Emery goofed here as well. He turned down a couple of opportunities to trade down in 2013 and 2014 drafts because of his own perceived “value”.

    It is pretty simple.. more picks = greater chances of hitting on quality starters.

    • NewBearInTown

      What opportunities are you referring to? Just because we were in a position where you wanted us to trade down doesn’t mean there were trade partners out there offering good value. One of the stories of the 2014 draft was that everybody wanted to trade down because there was so much talent in the draft, but relatively little in the way of guaranteed elite talent at the top.

  • AlbertInTucson

    A good list on the draft finds but Rob Gronkowksi doesn’t belong on it. He fell into the 2nd round because he was coming off BACK surgery at Arizona and had missed his last season in college because of that surgery.

    By contrast, teams were shying away from tackle, Chris Williams, who also had college back issues.The Bears spent a 1st on him anyway and we all know how well THAT worked out.

  • Shady

    Detroit loses to Dallas after a pass interference flag is announced and walked off by the game official and then ludicrously picked up. (Has anybody yet given an explanation of this?)
    Dallas loses to Green Bay after a Dez Bryant catch – a spectacular catch – is deemed a non-catch by one of the more ludicrous rules in the NFL rulebook. (And in my opinion a gross misinterpretation of that rule.)
    Green Bay loses to Seattle with a ludicrous late-game collapse featuring a tight end dropping an onside kick that hit both of his hands and his face.
    Seattle loses to New England with the worst play-call in the history of professional football, asking a non-pocket passer to pocket pass a tight-window slant route on the goal line, at the death. (And do so with the league’s most physical runner just, you know, standing around.)

    Didn’t I just post this?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Don’t the Patriots just embody that statement. It seems like they regularly have multiple picks in the top rounds thanks to the hooded draft Jedi.

  • Trac

    Jeff, Robert Kraft is the best owner in the league. Without him, you lose all your patriots/brady talking points.

  • NewBearInTown

    Too lazy to do it now, but how many players drafted in the first round or the first three rounds were starting for the two teams playing last Sunday?
    I know certain low-rounders had good games. But, off the top of my head, Bruce Irvin for Seattle and Dont’a Hightower (who Jeff wanted us to take) for the Patriots were both first round picks who figured prominently in the big game.

    • NewBearInTown

      On the same theme:
      New England’s left tackle (Nate Solder) was a high first round pick. Right tackle Sebastian Vollmer was a low second round pick.
      Seattle’s left tackle Russell Okung was a high first round pick. Right tackle Justin Britt was a low second round pick. Center Max Unger was a second round pick. LG James Carpenter was a first round pick.
      Just because the guys scoring the points weren’t first rounds doesn’t mean the teams won without good value from their high selections.
      There’s also the fact that both Seattle and New England are known for good drafting the past few years. I really don’t think the Superbowl is good evidence for the assertion that a draft analysis isn’t important.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Starting ?

      New England:
      1st rounders: Revis, Hightower, McCourty, Chandler Jones, Vilfork, Solder.
      2nd round: Vollmer, Collins, Gronk

      Seattle:
      1st rounders: Okung,Carpenter, Bruce Irvin, Marshawn Lynch, Kevin Williams, Earl Thomas
      2nd round: Max Unger, Bobby Wagner

  • TheBigCheesy

    its worth pointing out that Marion Barber’s fuckups began in regulation, when he ran out of bounds, which basically led to overtime.

    • NewBearInTown

      That’s okay, if this season is overtime, Goodell hasn’t exactly had a great regulation record the past four years either.

  • NewBearInTown

    Maybe I’m just tone deaf, but what was so demeaning about Goodell’s answer to Nichols? Its a terrible answer, but I don’t think he was disproportionately rude to her.

    He dodged the question on multiple fronts. (1) He said everyone has integrity, but Nichols said, correctly, that even if everyone does everything right, the public perception is still skewed by the perception of a conflict. (2) He said “somebody has to pay the investigators,” but that wasn’t the question. Nobody is questioning that the NFL should pay the investigators for their work investigating. People are questioning all the other work the investigators get from the NFL for big money that has nothing to do with the sometimes small issues they get brought in to investigate as “independents.”

    What Goodell should have said was: Unfortunately, there is a small universe of people with administrative experience at the highest levels of football. If we go outside those circles, we risk bringing in investigators that don’t really understand how the league works or even how the game works. On the other hand, anyone who has that experience is going to have a lifetime of connections within the NFL that will allow pretty much any reporter to write a story about a perceived conflict.
    The fact is, my decisions get overruled often enough that people should realize the investigators aren’t under my thumb. And nobody has lost other football work as a result of an unfavorable ruling. The best example is what Paul Tagliabue wrote about my disciplining the Saints for the bounty issue. He said some very unkind things about me in that report, but we’d use him again as an investigator and we’ll continue to use his firm for legal work for the league just as we always have.

    At least, that’s how I’d argue it.

  • NewBearInTown

    Okay, one more conversation starter. I’m ranking the following positions based on a scale of 1-10, 10 being the highest. How great is our need at each spot with the current roster? Keep in mind, players like Brandon Marshall, Jared Allen or Tim Jennings may be cut for cap reasons and that will increase need.
    QB – 4
    RB – 5
    WR – 7
    TE – 5
    OL (T) – 8
    OL (G) – 2
    OL (C) – 4
    NT – 6
    DT/DE – 3
    DE/OLB – 8
    MLB – 8
    CB – 5
    S – 8
    K – 1
    P – 1
    LS – 3
    KR/PR – 7
    ST/Gunner – 5

    • Irish Sweetness

      CB should be higher. Peanut be done. Not a fan of TJ. Fuller an unknown quantity going forward.

      Why is DE mentioned twice?
      DE at 3? That’s a 10 my friend. Willie Young is coming off an injury and is sub-premier. Allen is semi-toast, and as much as Barb loves him I saw nothing from Houston this season.

      Center is 9 or 10. Garza was done years ago. Zero push.

      7 is high for WR, stunned if they ditch Brandon because that just kills the whole passing game. Our QB is the reason we didn’t hear more from Josh Morgan and Santonio etc.

      RB should be higher. We need a banger, and we need coverage for Forte if he goes down. We need a another #1.

      • NewBearInTown

        I put DE twice because one player type is guys who play DE in a 34 and DT in a 43, another player type is guys who play OLB in a 34 and DE in a 43.

        • Irish Sweetness

          So we don’t have a need for a 3-4 DE? I would have thought we need ends no matter what we play.

          1. Willie Young might not be the same man (and is more a 2nd tier DE anyway).
          2. Barb has the love for Houston, but as a Pass rusher I don’t see it.
          3. Allen wasn’t really getting it done before he got sick and lost weight. We play on grass and he doesn’t. Also he’s not getting any younger.

          We need at least one top tier rusher, not somebody who used to be a top tier p-rusher.

      • Sactowns#1

        Jennings looked like he went on the Briggs diet last season. He was a step behind everyone this season. After having a good 2013 he certainly regressed.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Marc Mariani is the goods, KR/PR is a 2, thanks for getting this conversation started, it certainly is interesting to see what fan perception of need is versus what the FO does.

  • Ososfan

    That slave comparison was hilarious. Wth, Jeff? It’s more than just black dudes unless one of the top OLine guys is an albino in Sherff. Also, that the owner of the Jaguars is Pakistani….

  • Irish Sweetness

    “His achievement is monumental but Brady’s six Super Bowl appearances and four wins over a decade plus in the free agency era is more impressive.”

    Bullshit. No. No it’s not. Again, only a person who never watched Joe play would say this. Numbers don’t do any QB justice. You look at Mac’s stats and think … meh. Ditto John Elway’s first ten years. But no, they were fucking winners and ballers to the max.

    Joe Montana was OBVIOUSLY a better QB than Tom Brady … if you’d watched him play. He was OBVIOUSLY better than P Manning. Cometh the hour cometh the man. Where Joe Montana excelled was when there was a minute or two left and you need to get down field and score in a high stakes situation. The opposite of Peyton Manning.

    How many SB’s did Joe lose ? Zero. Brady lost 2. You can’t touch or breath a QB these days. All the rules favor receivers. It’s a different game. And Joe got his three SB MVP awards with Jerry Rice on the team.

    11 TDs – 0 INTs. QBR 127. BRady’s or Joe’s stats.

    Brady more impressive than Montana?

    As they say in Newcastle … divvent talk yer shite.

    • Cormonster

      Hey Irish, I thought you might find this interview interesting. I haven’t watched it or Citizenfour yet, but I plan to this week. I’ll have to get back to you on what I think.

      http://reason.com/reasontv/2014/11/03/glenn-greenwalds-plan-to-poke-prod-and-p

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s basically just a nodding head in the documentary, one of three journos picked by Snowden to come to his hotel room in HK.

        Regarding the law, the NSA only have to ask permission to collect data on people if thy are U.S. Citizens, but they get the permission anyway because all of those privacy rights were eradicated post 9/11 with the Patriot Act/Homeland … yada yada. However anyone and everyone outside the USA is completely fair game. The Brits actually collect the most data about their citizens than any other country at GCHQ.

        The only surprising thing about the documentary for me was the amount of storage space they must use up. Every phone call that’s made. Every one of them. Stored, and linked to you. I thnk we already knew about big brother, or at least anyone who’s not a brainwashed muppet of the state. But when you see it all laid out, and how quickly it all ‘fell into place’ after 9/11, then it would make even the most ardent “anti-truther” out there question the events of that day.

        Isn’t it ridiculous that people were ever referred to as “truthers” ? Like “readers” or “thinkers” to a corn-pone.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      Just a couple of notes:
      1. both Manning and Brady have both exceeded Montana in number of 4th quarter come backs
      2. Montana had Jerry Rice for only 2 of his SB wins

      the amount of nostalgic praise you give these old players is getting old. The one thing you are right about is that it is a different game. It has better athletes on both sides of the ball. Just look at Defensive players, They are bigger stronger faster than they were 30 years ago and the defensive schemes that are used today are more complex.

      I am in no way saying Montana or Elway are not great players or that they would not be successful in today’s game, but the pedestal you place these guys on is a little unwarranted.

      The argument of Brady as the best ever can easily be made.

      • Irish Sweetness

        1. When Joe was your QB you didn’t need 4th qtr comebacks. Things were in hand from the first drive.

        2. Joe made names out of Dwight Clarks and John Taylor’s and Roger Craigs. If Jerry Rice was drafted by Cleveland he’s not being voted all time greatest player by anyone. Not that he should be voted all time greatest player by anyone, which was ridiculous.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          yep that’s why Joe has the 5th most 4th qtr comebacks.

        • CanadaBear

          If you think Montana made Roger Craig you’re nuts.

    • Big Mike

      Disagree Irish. Everything older isn’t better. You talk about losing in 2 Super Bowls as if it were a bad thing. Getting to 6 Super Bowls is the accomplishment. 6 AFC Championships. The fact that Montana had a HOF supporting cast means nothing to you?

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        just an FYI – Montana and Lott were the only HOFers on all 4 of Montana’s SBs. Rice was on the last 2 and Fred Dean was on the first. They did have a lot of Pro Bowlers, but to imply the team was stacked with HOFers as a supporting cast is a little bit of a reach.

        Plus a HOF coach.

        • Big Mike

          Point was Montana’s crew was LOADED.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i will agree with that.

      • NewBearInTown

        Was going to post the same thing about the two Superbowl losses. So losing in the early rounds or missing the playoffs is a better thing?

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        6 AFC Championships but 9 appearances in the Brady-Belichick era. Wow!

        • Big Mike

          Pretty impressive.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Otto and the Browns. Ten appearances 7 victories. More impressive.

          • CanadaBear

            Jim Brown=GOAT. I can’t stand the guy for various reasons (mostly for beating women, throwing them out windows (literally) and other anti-social acts) but his stats are amazing.

            http://www.nfl.com/player/jimbrown/2510380/profile

      • Irish Sweetness

        But Otto Graham got to 10 ‘superbowls’ if you put ti don to numbers. He won seven of them. By that rationale (of reducing greatness to numbers) then Otto was the GOAT.

        And I haven’t heard anyone’s opinion yet. Just numbers.

        For those who saw Joe do his thing (back in the days where they were beating the Broncos by 45 points in the SB) … who thinks Tom is better ?

        • SC Dave

          Otto Graham = GOAT. End of story. To Jeff’s defense, he did qualify it to “the Super Bowl Era”

        • CanadaBear

          My dad always said Otto Graham was the best ever. If I ever saw him play, i don’t remember it. I remember seeing him at games and on TV, just not playing.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I think any team that wins a SB has a great roster, that’s why they win it. Most of Brady’s wins were team efforts, especially the most recent.

        But where greatness comes in is where you’re down a FG to Cincy in the superbowl, there’s a couple of minutes left on the clock and you need march your team down-field.

        I guess the fairest thing to say is that Joe was the greatest clutch QB of all time. Two minute drill, game/season on the line, he’s your man.

    • BerwynBomber

      I am with you. Moreover, Brady has played for arguably the greatest HC in the post-Lombard/SB era. Montana played for Bill Walsh and George Seifert. Winning a fourth title with the latter would be like Tom Brady winning one with Romeo Crennell as HC.

      That said, I can see why younger people would think Brady is the best and he certainly rates way up there. But I would, for starters, rank both Montana and Elway above him. I still think young Elway pulling those Reeves-coached DEN teams to SBs was about the most impressive thing I’ve seen a QB do. Those teams were, by and large, mediocre.

      And you’re right that this era is massively slanted toward favoring QBs. It’s why stats comparisons with the past are sort of meaningless — or to put it another way — why Marino’s 48 TD year is still jaw-dropping in a way that P. Manning’s or Brady’s big TD years could never be. Though I do think Rodgers’ unreal TD/INT ratios are numbers that somewhat transcend eras just because the numbers are such outliers.

      • Cormonster

        Playing devil’s advocate; Elway’s early Super Bowl appearances were against an historically weak AFC. The NFC won 13 straight Super Bowls with an average margin of victory over 20 points during that period. Denver lost 3 of those Super Bowls with Elway by an average margin of 32 points.

        • BerwynBomber

          Fair enough but those Browns teams were obviously superior to Elway’s DEN teams and he still managed to beat them and get his team there. That was my main point.

          But yes, NFC was producing the dominant teams of that era. Except for a couple of the Raiders teams.

          • Cormonster

            The Marty Shottenheimer effect.

      • SC Dave

        Curious that you would call compare Seifert to Crennell. Seifert’s 49ers were 98-30 over his eight seasons there, with two Super Bowl titles (and NFC Championship losses to the Giants and Aikman-years Dallas).

        • BerwynBomber

          And what did Seifert do in Carolina?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Crickets.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yes, if Rodgers was being sacked shit-less by Seventies/Eighties defenses, guys like him or Manning would not be throwing buckets of TD passes and could likely be retired by now.

        I’m not knocking Brady BTW, that would be impossible. I was laughing at the media in week two when they buried him. Knew he’d be there at the dance. He’s a baller, Manning isn’t.

        Never saw Unitas play, but I’ll trust the old-timers when they say he’s in the conversation.
        Can’t have Manning in there though. If you can’t do it post-season ….

        • CanadaBear

          Rodgers wasn’t getting mauled like the QB’s back in the day but he got sacked plenty in the previous years. Close to as often as Cutler.

    • BearDown100393

      Joe Montana is the GOAT at the QB position.

      • SC Dave

        Nope. Otto Graham is.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’d like to see someone knock Otto’s credentials. I need a good laugh.

        • I’ll split the difference.
          Otto Montana.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Same network that will treat signing day recruits like conquering heroes today will make sure to catch them selling autographs in two years. ”

    Jeff i am assuming you are referring to ESPN as the ‘network’. If that is the case i am laughing at this tweet. I am not sure ESPN has ever caught anyone doing anything against the rules. That would require them to do investigative reporting.

    • To be fair, ESPN has a few areas that do excellent work. In terms of investigative reporting, Outside the Lines is awesome. They have some good writers for all sports too.

      It’s just that most of what gets the bulk of the attention on ESPN’s platforms is stupid junk intended for the lowest common denominator of fan.

      • SC Dave

        Yup… all that Nielsen cares about.

  • I think most years the best teams are separated by very little. Even last year, when the SB was a blowout, Seattle played close games in the playoffs against SF and NO. SF in turn had barely beaten GB.

  • Jeff’s point about the draft is very true. Everybody wants to pay attention to the first round, maybe the 2nd a little bit, but the later rounds and UDFA are so important.

    However, I think Jeff might discount the early rounds a bit much. Yes, NE has a lot of late round/undrafted guys playing key roles, but they also have a lot of highly drafted guys. Vereen and Gronk were 2nd rounders, their OL has several 1st/2nd rounders, the defense has Revis, Wilfork, Mayo, Hightower, Colins, Jones, McCourty, all of whom were drafted in the first 2 rounds.

    Last year I looked at Pro Bowlers (http://dabearsbeat.com/2014/02/14/where-were-impact-players-drafted-pro-bowl/) and top 10 players at each position in PFF ratings (http://dabearsbeat.com/2014/02/17/where-were-impact-players-drafted-profootballfocus/), and in both cases the majority of players came from the first 3 rounds. By and large, that’s where you’re going to find most of your best players. The late rounds and UDFA need to be used to get quality contributors though.

    • SC Dave

      Don’t interject facts into memes. Bad internet etiquette.

  • Regarding Brady being in one system: New England’s offense changes more week to week than any other in the NFL. They are so good at figuring out an opponents’ weakness and attacking it. So yes, he might have been in the same “system,” but that system is incredibly flexible and rarely looks the same for an extended period of time.

    • BerwynBomber

      With Belichick and Brady it is a chicken/egg argument. Personally, I go with Belichick. NE won their first SB with their backup QB (Bledsoe) winning two post-season games (and their AFC title victory was on the road) and Belichick once went 11-5 with a backup QB who had not taken a competitive snap since HS — technically Cassel was 11-4 that year as a starter.

      • willbest

        I am hoping Belichick’s guy that does the football version of sabermetrics writes a book when he retires. I tend to think that guy is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

        • BerwynBomber

          It will be interesting to see when some sabermetrics stats become more mainstream in the NFL. Even on a rudimentary level I am surprised the networks can’t flash a defensive player’s game stats before or after a play.

          The NBA seems to be moving toward sabermetrics with rankings like their Player Efficiency Ratings (PER).

          • NBA is making leaps and bounds in that regard. They now have motion tracking cameras that literally chart every movement a player makes. Not to mention the detailed data on how often and how successfully they shoot from any area on the floor, tendencies about what they like to do, etc.

          • SC Dave

            Wow… are sports to be reduced solely to numbers?

          • not at all. Because those things are averages over time, and fluctuation within games doesn’t play to averages. That’s why nobody can predict sports for gambling purposes 100% accurately (or even close to that). It’s why March Madness is so much fun.

            It just makes it more of a chess match. The opponent knows more about you, but you know what the opponent knows, so it’s up to you to avoid being too predictable and improve your weaknesses.

          • CanadaBear

            Just the way Nessman, Kromer and Tucker did last year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Johnnywad

            I don’t think the concept of Sabermetrics applies nearly as well to football as it does baseball.

      • Chicken and egg indeed. It takes a master coach to come up with these game plans, but it also takes an incredibly smart quarterback to be able to run them every week. Both have played a huge role in NE’s success over the last 15 years.

        • Irish Sweetness

          World – can we lay the chicken-egg argument to rest? It was the egg. It amazes me it’s even a thing.

          “And God said …’Let there be chickens’ … and there were chickens .. .and God saw that they tasted really good breaded and deep fried …”

          If that’s somebody’s thing, I respect their right to believe that.

          • Trac

            I can do all things through Christ which strengthened me.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      The Defense is the same.

      That’s basically the scheme and the system. They want you to play the way they want you to play. They want you to become vulnerable in regard to their strong suits.

      PS: The Offense is run by Josh McDaniels. Belichick gets involved only in big picture decisions…like in the post Kansas City game ‘limit 3WR sets-gurry up Offense, more power running/play action’.

  • BerwynBomber
    • Thought that was an excellent look at the issue that manages to be pretty balanced. Good share, thanks.

      • John Doe

        Thought Biggs made more of a case for cutting Marshall than keeping him.

        My prediction is: If Cutler is staying, Marshall is a goner. The Cutler-Marshall bromance is now over. Cutler probably hates Marsahll for calling him out on ball protection after Dolphins game and with “I would have buyer’s remorse too” comment on Cutler’s big contract.

        • BearDown100393

          Jake Cutler doesn’t care if Marshall stays or goes.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He should, because his ass is grass if Brandon goes.

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, I don;t think Alshon and Martellus are enough to keep the pick6 count low enough without Brandon’s help

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Seattle’s fate was decided on that 3rd and 1 from the NE 8 early in the 3rd quarter. Beast mode was stopped for no gain and they settled for a FG. This produced 2 things: 1) put at least some level of doubt in SEA head about converting a 3rd and short, which may have led to the decision to pass on the final play (just speculation of course) and 2) made NE’s TD with 2 min left the go ahead score rather than just a tying score. SEA would have played that final sequence a lot differently if they needed solely a FG to win.

    Of course they could’ve just ran the damn ball on that last play and we’d be discussing NE’s failures and Tom Brady’s 2 picks.

    • BerwynBomber

      Funny, I read a steroid story about Anderson Silva (famous MMA fighter) on ESPN last night and the top-rated reader comment (w/ something like 900 likes) beneath MMA story was “I still can’t believe they didn’t give the ball to Beast Mode.”

    • willbest

      Lynch was 1 for 5 from the 1 yard line this year, and was hit for a loss on 2 of those. In his career he is 15 for 36, and in 9 goes he lost yards. Over the last 5 years he ranks 30th out of 39th from the 1 yard line among backs with a min. of 10 attempts.

      So it wasn’t just a matter of hand it Lynch and let him do his thing. The problem wasn’t calling a pass, it was the type of pass that was called.

      • SC Dave

        But don’t interject facts, dude. Fans hate that.

      • Johnnywad

        Wow. That surprises the hell out of me.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Your last line is key. If Lynch runs it in from the one, or Butler is a step behind, then the Brady GOAT thing isn’t in full-on mode. The discussion was kick-started by a play that he was watching from the sideline.

  • CanadaBear

    I was disappointed with some of the players just going through the motions down the stretch. However, when your top 3 coaches (Nessman, Kromer, Tucker) are totally incompetent, one of them is a snitch and another is a spineless jellyfish, it’s pretty difficult to lay it all on the line when you know the end of the story (more losses).

    Brandon craves attention but he also wants to win. He was out there balling. If everyone on the team was trying as hard as he was we might have won another game or two (might not, too). Our O this year was basically as predictable as Ron Turner’s. Every opponent knew if they stopped the run in the first quarter Nessman would forget about it. That put the onus on Cutler to make things happen when everyone in the stadium knew what was coming. YIKES! The D was even more predictable. Once Fuller stopped getting INT’s it was all over. The D got very few TO’s and was the worst in the league in scoring D.

    With new coaches and schemes there is hope. Our D desperately needs a talent infusion but if they at least play aggressively there is some hope for a few more wins. Playing a passive D with mediocre talent at best was a recipe for disaster.

    Not trying to give the players a pass because they definitely under performed. I think the new staff has the goods and will be able to weed out the guys that were just going through the motions and inspire everyone to raise their level of play. So says Pollyanna!

    • beninnorcal

      Is that really what Pollyanna says? Maybe I do need to watch that old film.

      • CanadaBear

        I might be paraphrasing. I try to be as optimistic as possible in the offseason. Once the season begins I can turn on a dime. I hate the negativity because once I go down that path it’s not pretty for me.

  • Nice little feature on Johnny Knox: http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/videos/ITB-Knox-back-at-Halas-Hall/0e8b9ee2-2419-4727-9165-871228f9769e

    I liked him. We could use another speedy vertical threat to help stretch some D.

    • BerwynBomber

      Nice to see Knox getting around well. That still rates as the most horrific injury I’ve seen — short of those that result in paralysis.

      • even some of the ones that led to paralysis didn’t look that bad. the man’s shoulders touched his anus.

        • BerwynBomber

          Yep. I have a strong stomach/high cringe index, but Knox’s injury … never cared to see another replay of it.

      • willbest

        I would have loved to have seen Knox line up opposite of Brandon Marshall in 2012. I believe we would have made the playoffs.

      • Johnnywad

        I thought he died. Not kidding. In the moments after the hit, I convinced myself he was dead.

    • SC Dave

      Thanks for posting that. Johnny said at least three times that he’s still walking, and that’s the big thing.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Preferably somebody who knows the playbook though. And somebody who’s not built like a lollipop stick with eyes. More Boldin-sized, than twig … per se.

      • a man can learn a playbook (unless you’re devin hester). a man can’t learn speed.

        anquan boldin is 6’1″ 220. you get a guy like that running knox’s 4.34 and there’s going to be lots of records broken and set.

  • John Doe

    Fran Tarkenton Unloads on Jake Cutler

    Leadership on and off the field are the qualities that mean the most to Tarkenton.

    “That quarterback who’s elite, who’s good, you’ve got to look at his intangibles,” Tarkenton said. “Can he, at that moment, make plays when you need him to make plays, be the leader in the clubhouse, be the leader on the field, and the moment’s not too big for him? Jay Cutler fails in all those.”

    Tarkenton doesn’t envision Cutler changing regardless of which coach the Bears have and went on to say that NFL coaches are clueless in evaluating quarterbacks.

    “He’s who he is,” Tarkenton said. “He has proven, over the years, he’s not the guy. The NFL coaches, the worst thing they do is judge quarterbacks. They have no clue how to coach and how to judge a quarterback. They have one thing: How strong is his arm? They tell me he’s got a big, strong, powerful arm. He has proven time and time again he’s not the quarterback that you need to get you where you need to go. They’ll end up dying with him there, I don’t care whether you have John Fox there or who you have there, it won’t be any different.”

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/02/04/fran-tarkenton-offers-harsh-thoughts-on-jay-cutler/

    • BearDown100393

      Jake Cutler does not care about Fran Tarkenton’s opinions. He won’t even care enough to look up “Fran Tarkenton” in Wikipedia.

    • Shady

      Lighten up Francis.

    • SC Dave

      Can’t say I disagree.

      • GPLDAN

        What’s that I hear in the distance? The hell sirens of Stukas?

        • SC Dave

          +1

    • Peanut FTW

      Funny, Cutler has a slightly better TD to INT ratio than Fran, maybe it’s arm envy.

      • CanadaBear

        Is there a more bitter asshole, ex-player than Francis? He should just go back to infomercials and call it a day.

  • Sactowns#1

    Can I be the lone voice in the wilderness crying out “Sid Luckman!”
    The man played at a time when the QB could actually be tackled, joined the merchant marines in WWII and played entire seasons without practicing, just getting leave to play on Sundays. In a 10 game season he threw 28 TD’s (throwing a TD 13.9% of the time which is still a record) He won 4 championships and we all know what he did to the Washington racists. This is Da Bears Blog, not the NE News or a prell commercial. The last thing I want to see here is someone gushing over Brady accompanied by a picture of his supreme whiteness.

    • NewBearInTown

      A great case for why Luckman was the greatest of his era. The whole discussion is silly really. If you had a team right now and could have any QB in his prime, who do you take? It depends on the rest of the team. Brady, Manning, Marino, Montana, Luckman, Bradshaw. Who knows?
      I mean, I don’t even know who the best value QB of this season was. Luck and Wilson were top tier for rookie money. But Brady won the SB, so its money well spent.

      • Scharfinator

        It also depends what rule set and uniforms (helmets particularly) they play with.

      • BerwynBomber

        You had me until you mentioned Bradshaw …

    • BerwynBomber

      He also threw something closer to a soccer ball than a football. And as far as we know he didn’t require said ball to be deflated.

    • SC Dave

      Otto Graham played in a league championship game every season of his career, including the first six seasons that the *expansion* Cleveland Browns were in the NFL. It’s way beyond all the rest.

  • John Doe

    Marshall to Baltimore Trade Rumors

    “(During Super Bowl Week) I actually interviewed (Baltimore coach John Harbaugh). I said, ‘If I played for you, would you let me do ‘Inside the NFL?’ He said, ‘Oh, absolutely.’ He knew I was taking a lot of heat for doing the show.”

    http://sportsmockery.com/2015/02/report-brandon-marshall-wants-play-baltimore-ravens/

    Trade Marshall. Add Randall Cobb. I would be ok with that.

    • this seems like an awful lot of speculation to me. And it contains incorrect cap information. Cutting Marshall would open up $3.95M in cap space, not >$7M like they claim.

      I also corrected them yesterday on an article claiming that cutting Tim Jennings would save $1.4M on the 2015 cap, pointing out this was the exact opposite of what would actually happen. They responded by offering me a spot writing for them, which I thought was pretty funny.

      Also: Randall Cobb is not going anywhere. GB will re-sign him before free agency starts.

      • John Doe

        There is something to Marshall speculation. He doesn’t like Gase. And he is no longer buddy-buddy with Cutler. And the new coach and GM will certainly not let him do Inside the NFL show.

        As for Randall Cobb, I am not sure Rodgers would want him back. Just look Rodgers reaction when Cobb stopped on a route and caused 2nd INT in NFCC game against Seahawks. Green Bay does not like to pay top dollars anyway because they have a bunch of WRs ready. Devante Adams is ready to take over. Jeff Janis did not play much last year but he will in 2015. And Ted Thompson will find 1 or 2 more WRs in mid to late rounds of this years draft. I will be surprised if Cobb returns to Green Bay.

        • willbest

          Adams is inconsistent. He shows up for a big game and then disappears for 2-3 games. But its unlikely they are going to want to pay cobb the 7+ mil a year he could get in free agency

          • John Doe

            Don’t forget Richard Rogers. He is more of a pass catcher than TE.

        • Cormonster

          Cobb’s not going anywhere. He just had his best season. Green Bay will resign him to a second contract, just like they did with other high round receivers in the recent past. James Jones, Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, and Jermichael Finley all got second contracts. They didn’t let Jones or Jennings go until after their 7th season. Plus all of those guys didn’t start to really produce until their 3rd or 4th season in the league.

          • BerwynBomber

            But other than Nelson’s, Cobb’s contract would cost them significantly more than those other guys. Good chance they keep him — he’s only 26, I believe — but I wouldn’t be shocked if they let him walk either.

        • yes, there is something to the Marshall speculation, but saying “Marshall wants to play for Ravens” based on the quote in that article is a pretty large jump… to conclusions (copyright: Office Space).

        • BerwynBomber

          I can see GB not signing Cobb — remember, they let Jennings go to Minny under similar circumstances — but I don’t think it has anything to do with Rodgers and Cobb not being on the same page. Yes, Cobb presumably cut that route short in the NFCC but from all indications Rodgers likes and (highly) values him.

          If they let Cobb go it will come down to money and the Packers own Patriots Jr.-like mentality of paying very few players big money on extended, guaranteed contracts.

      • willbest

        Packers have a lot of important players hitting FA this year, and they are probably going to fire a few others. It will be interesting to see how it shakes up for them.

        • BerwynBomber

          I’ve heard Tramon Williams is gone. I think that will be a significant loss for GB. Maybe even more so than Cobb (if they don’t resign him) as Rodgers (like Brady, Manning, Brees, etc) can make an average WR look good or a bad one look average.

          • Jokey

            Cobb will stay. 9-7 is realistic. Maybe the team cohesion loosens a bit because of the loss, for example there’s blame on McCarthy and Dix and take-your-pick. Perhaps that means they don’t play team football so well as a result. 9-7 would mean no home field and maybe the Pack loses in Seattle again next year. Although Pete Carrol I’d argue is more the goat than McCarthy, so insert a different NFC team in place of Seattle, but I don’t know which one. Saints?

    • BerwynBomber

      Cobb would mostly be lost on Cutler. He’s an undersized timing route WR. Requires a QB who is accurate and throws anticipatory passes to spots. Jay’s a wait-and-see-them open guy, and the downside of his average-level accuracy would be exaggerated by a small WR. In short, the jump ball aspect that BMarsh and Alson provide are perfect for Jay. Even Jordy Nelson would not be an ideal fit for Cutler’s skill set.

      • John Doe

        I think they (Fox, Pace) will look past Jake Cutler and get guys who fit their long-term plan with or without Cutler.

        I have a feeling they will sign Brian Hoyer. And Hoyer, even though, he has talked of returning to Cleveland, will want to get away from that mess. Hoyer will know that Jake Cutler will be on short leash and he will get a chance to start at some point.

        Signing Dowell Loggains as QB coach will come in handy for both Cutler and Hoyer.

        • SC Dave

          Interesting speculation. But speculation regardless. But I would not be opposed to Hoyer as competition for the starting role.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Hoyer, Fitzy, Orton-form-retirement-again, or even – though I hate to say it – Tannehill.

          • BerwynBomber

            Fish will hang onto Tannehill — at least in the short term — after this past season. He showed improvement and signs of being a competent starter.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Exactly, as long as Jake is back there then having talented WRs is as useful as a chocolate teapot.

        • BerwynBomber

          I think BMarsh and Alshon are talented WRs who are not completely wasted on Jay, but a guy like Cobb, to a degree, would be. He’s not a jump ball WR. He’s a speed, precise route runner dude.

    • BearDown100393

      Marshall going to Baltimore makes a lot of sense. He is infatuated with Marc Trestman. Practically obsessed. He professed his love and admiration during the season. And then double downed on that support. Marc Trestman is as much Marshall’s coach as Tony Romo was Terrell Owens’ quarterback. Puncture a man’s lung and he can still feel it tickling. Tell me Trestman, when your beloved receiver is lying on the turf injured due to a middle of the field crappy pass call, where will it tickle you? Response – Take this thing back to Baltimore! And so it shall be done. Marshall a Raven. Baltimore is short a wife beater. The void must be filled. Marshall has broken allegiance to Da Bears. Let it be so.

      • GPLDAN

        I would award you 83 blog points for a Silence of the Lambs quotation, but I am afraid to do so.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Trestman :” It rubs the lotion on its skin and puts it in the basket ….”

      • Johnnywad

        He also said Devin Hester was a better wide receiver than he himself. Let’s slow our roll a bit on this one. Nobody would follow Marc Trestman anywhere. He’s proven quite clearly he’s not equipped to lead.

        • BerwynBomber

          But OC is a whole different level of leadership than HC. I am interested to see how he does in BAL.

          • Johnnywad

            It is. He may succeed under Harbaugh running their offense. It seems like his in game ability to call plays was pretty suspect though.

          • BerwynBomber

            Wasn’t always easy to tell. Trestman took the fall but I wonder how much of a role Cutty played. Of course, we also give Cutty the benefit of the doubt over the OC but I’m skeptical of that storyline’s automatic conclusion.

            Still, Trestman will have a tough act to follow in Kubiak. The latter did a fine job with that offense this past year.

        • SC Dave

          Actually, he said he thought Devin would have a better year. Not quite the same. Though just as wrong.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I think he said Hester was a great route runner. Just a shame it was seldom the route that was called.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Flacco + Marshall + Torrey Smith + Steve Smith = super bowl.

  • GPLDAN

    Maybe we could re-sign Bernard Berrian. I think he’s got some game left.

    • SC Dave

      Rex’s finest hour.

  • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

    Good Piece, Jefe.

    You’re so right. it’s not a complicated game. It’s a kids game.

    No more overanalyzing players pre-draft. Just pick the guys who have proven they can play the game.

    Minimal turnovers + maximal takeaways = maximized wins

    When you have the ball at the 1 in the SB you give the ball to BEAST MODE!

    • Jokey

      But there are a lotta ins and outs and what have yous…

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/04/bears-sign-cb-al-louis-jean/

    i don’t know if i can be any bit excited about this. Yes Louis-Jean showed promise and played hard, but i am not sure if it was not the fact that everyone else looked so awful that he could not help but look somewhat good at times.

    • He’s got potential, and it’s a 0 risk move. No guaranteed money, so he’ll have to earn a spot in camp. Why not let the new coaches get a look at him? He fits the physical mold of the type of CB Fangio likes.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        i did not see the contract details at the time. I am all for bringing anyone into camp for the new coaches to get a look at, especially with no guaranteed money

    • CanadaBear

      I thought he looked good in preseason but the longer he was on the field the more he was exposed. Can’t hurt to bring him back. Same with Hurst. I’d still like to see Peanut back for about $1 mil. Jennings had a horrible year and Fuller looked bad down the stretch. Hopefully Pace brings in a bunch of guys and Fox/Fangio can coach them up. Almost nobody is an untouchable this year.

      • Johnnywad

        I’m very curious to see what becomes of Ferguson, Sutton, and Bostic under Fangio. If it turns out those three can really play, we’re in decent shape. Pretty sure Fuller will pan out. If Young can get back to form after his injury, that’s a pretty solid core young to youngish guys to build on.

        • CanadaBear

          I’m hopeful but not really optimistic. That torn achilles is a tough one to overcome. Bostic hasn’t progressed at all in 2 years so that makes me think he isn’t going to be anything to write home about. Sutton doesn’t really fit if we go 3-4, maybe as a situational guy in a hybrid. I really didn’t see much there last year. Ferguson showed some flashes and I’m more optimistic about him than Bostic or Sutton. Who knows? That scheme they played last year didn’t seem to help anyone.

  • GPLDAN
    • Johnnywad

      The world is going to beat Blount’s ass down the second he leaves the league. He has no chance to prosper post football.

      • BearDown100393

        There is a job opening for him right now at NFL Network.

        • Johnnywad

          I’m sure it’ll go really well.

    • BerwynBomber

      And this is worse than how SEA conducted themselves the last seconds of the game — that was heat of the moment stuff. Blount’s t-shirt was obviously planned and calculated.

      Btw, beside all the Brady GOAT talk, the worst thing to come from the Pats victory is the fact that LaGarrette Blount gotta ring.

      • BearDown100393

        Blount gets kicked off the Steelers and gets a ring with the Patriots. The perverse irony of the NFL slogs forward.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Blount maneuvored himself out of Pittsburghbecause he knew it was Levion Bell’s show there KNOWING that if you can tote the rock, there’s always another taker.

          Here’s another one for Pat-Hater-Conspiracy-Theorists:
          Blecheat, onthe sly, let’s Blount know the Patriots would welcome him back as their #1 back IF he can get his butt out of the Steel City.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            He went on the waiver wire and nobody made a claim for him. Somebody should have picked him up and traded him to the Patriots.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Patriots. A KLASS act.

    • eh. Sherman was calling out Revis on the sideline when he got picked in the endzone for a TD.
      SEA seems to bring out the worst in teams,( including the Pack who typically aren’t like that) and they deserve it.

      Reason I was rooting against them.

  • GPLDAN

    Mully had a goody factoid this morn on Da Waves

    After the Lockout and subsequent forced renegotiation, the NFL largely jettisoned it’s pension plan and extended benefits program. Not for players, but for staff and coaches. Rex Ryan can’t get his toenail fungus cured on the NY Jets insurance for years after retirement etc.

    But the Chicago Bears and the McCaskeys demurred. They continue to offer what is regarded as the gold star of pension, disability and long term benefits to coaches and senior staff.

    It is a reason that people like Fox still want to come to Chicago. If his heart has issues, he knows he’s got a long term plan.

    • Johnnywad

      That’s very classy on the part of the McCaskeys. Glad to hear it.

    • BearDown100393

      The Bears offer their employees & families excellent healthcare coverage.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      No GP, can’t be, the McCaskey’s are cheap….FYI, if I see that again in a thread/on a message board I just might lose my marbles.

  • GPLDAN

    Urlacher poked her so hard she had a lump on her head from the headboard

    http://instagram.com/p/yn3rPCKgEy/

    • CanadaBear

      Just Paris’ luck. By the time she got fake boobs nobody cared. I’m blown away the Kardashian’s are still milking their 15 minutes. Of course, Bruce had to get into the act and go all female on us.

  • CanadaBear

    Just saw a pic of Guion’s stash when the cops arrested him. Looks to be a kilo of weed and a shitload of cash. Along with a handgun. Green Bay might be without their rookie DT next year.

    • Cormonster

      It was only 357 grams and $190,000 in cash, in the same bag, with a gun in the car! What a complete moron. If you got that much shit in your vehicle, you shouldn’t be driving around getting baked. He can kiss that cash goodbye. I guess you can’t fix stupid. BTW, he wasn’t a rookie. He played for the Vikings for quite a few years before Green Bay.

      • CanadaBear

        Yeah, I read the linked article and changed the post. 357 grams is about 12 oz’s. That looked like a lot more in the photo but it’s hard to tell. Just crazy stupid. Hard to imagine you’d carry all that shit around (esp the money) if you’re transporting that kind of weight. As you mentioned, esp baked. DUH!

        • AlbertInTucson

          Even if they don’t find ANY drugs, if they find $190K in cash and a weapon, you are going to be MIGHTILY inconvenienced.

          • CanadaBear

            He had a permit for the gun so they couldn’t steal his money. You’re right, they definitely would have detained him until he got a lawyer involved. After that, charge him or let him walk.

          • Cormonster

            Odds are high the police would have kept the money anyways, even without drugs involved. That’s how the revenue officers roll today. It happens all the time, even if someone has just a couple thousand.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Colts’ D’Qwell Jackson got on the rap sheet today too. Something about an altercation with a pizza delivery guy over a parking spot.

      From “Deflategate” to “Pizzaguygate” in less than a month.

      • CanadaBear

        Pizza guy parked in his spot to deliver a pizza.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Well then of COURSE, assault of some sort is in order!

          • CanadaBear

            Yeah, the delivery guy was 31. As if his life wasn’t bad enough that he’s delivering pizza’s at that age, he also gets his ass kicked. Probably didn’t get a tip either.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Jackson’s still smartin’ from the ass-whipping the Colts got from the Pats.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      he had a gun carry permit for the gun and he’s a football player, so he has more than 200 K.

      My guess is he was going home for the offseason with spending cash and his legally owned gun. He also took his favorite weed with him… to last months.

      Very, very stupid stuff right there, but I don’t see criminal activities in this one. Just a stupid guy going on ‘vacation’, back home.

      • CanadaBear

        In Florida anything over 20 grams of weed is a felony. Having a gun with you when you commit a felony is another felony. Crazy stuff. Personally I think they should legalize it and tax it. At some point it will happen. Colorado raked in over $60 mil in tax revenues last year. It will be like gambling. It started out slowly and once states started getting the money all the other states wanted in.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          my point was that even if it’s a felony that doesn’t make him a criminal. He’s just incredibly stupid.

          driving a car loaded with weed, cash and a gun while being black !?

          • CanadaBear

            Of course, he was weaving around and that’s why they stopped him. You can’t fix stupid. Prisons are big moneymakers so the US is more than happy to keep them full for their corporate friends.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            It’s a miracle he wasn’t shot dead right then and there.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          funny thing about Colorado, they have to refund $30+mil of that tax revenues because they have laws on their books stating they can only collect so much in taxes based on a formula.

  • BerwynBomber

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog “Sure don’t sound like @BMarshall is going anywhere…and that would be great news for the 2015 Bears.”

    We’ll see. You also shot your wad when Peanut was brought back for another year.

    For the record, I am for BMarsh returning if we are keeping Cutty. These big, jump ball receivers are EXACTLY the type of wideouts Jay needs to somewhat mask his weaknesses. That said, I have no doubt BMarsh is a distraction/headache and his act has worn thin.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Did we sign Peanut ??? I thought he was a UFA? I’d let him go and draft a CB, sorry ‘Nut. Just bidniz.

      • BerwynBomber

        I meant last year in regard to Peanut. Blogfather was a huge proponent of Peanut’s one-year deal — as was most of the blog. Not a big thing but bringing back a veteran with injury issues might not be worth all the celebration one originally thought.

        Again, I’d be for BMarsh returning if we are keeping Cutty but I don’t know if either is “great news”.

        • NewBearInTown

          Peanut was great for Fuller. If nothing else, he did a lot from the sidelines to support our first round investment.
          Plus, with injury prone free agents (and draft picks) you have to judge the system, not the result. Just because one player got re-injured and another didn’t doesn’t mean signing or not signing was the right decision. Its a percentages game. I think the deal we gave Peanut was appropriate given the risk. Obviously, playing time didn’t pan out, but we also didn’t overpay last year or get stuck with a bunch of dead money this year.
          Even with the outcome, I don’t regret the Peanut signing.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Fox used an elderly elite CB in Denver. The Saints used veterans in the secondary

        I think that’s a good sign in regards to Tillman.

        I’d re-sign him… no doubt. Use him Woodson style.

        • Sactowns#1

          There something to be said for the wiliness of a veteran on D.

    • BearDown100393

      Jake also needs a HOF type 0-line, GOATs at WR and RB along with a defense that shuts out the offense and scores 21 points per game on its own. With those types of tools at his disposal, Jake’s deficiencies have a chance at being masked.

      • madscout12

        In the year we gave Cutler the Defense, RB, and TE that were great, good, and adiquate (with shit at WR), he responded by going to the NFC Championship game. The following he responded with going on a playoff run cut short by a thumb injury…after we took away the TE.

        No QB can go far with the 30th ranked D. Not Rodgers, not Brady, not Manning (either), not Montana, not Brees, not Favre…and I can keep going.

  • BerwynBomber

    Saw a nice reminder today in regard to big time college programs’ National Signing Day of five-star recruits.

    This year’s unanimous NFL Defensive MVP was a walk-on. The man to whom he finished second for NFL MVP was a JUCO kid.

    • Cormonster

      Watt didn’t even start college as a DE. He played TE at Central Michigan his freshman year before transferring to Wisconsin.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yep. And Rodgers couldn’t land a single D1 offer coming out of HS. And even after his JUCO stint only two D1 schools offered him scholarships: Cal and (believe it or not) Illinois.

        Anyway, both his and Watt’s stories are nice reminders of hard work and perseverance in this instant fame era of national signing day.

        • NewBearInTown

          Those are great examples of how nothing is set in stone, but are there any stats on the success of so called five star recruits at the NFL level?

          • BerwynBomber

            I would guess the five star recruits are more likely to make the NFL than recruits rated below them. My guess are the stats would be somewhat similar to those of JWood’s from earlier about players chosen in the first three rounds of the draft comprising the majority of the Pro Bowl selections.

            So yes, Watts and Rodgers are merely nice underdog stories. If you’re Urban Meyer or Nick Saban you still want the HS kids rated in the top 20 nationally at their position.

          • Cormonster

            I was listening to a Wisconsin sports program today that was talking about this exact issue. They said there were zero players on the Patriots or Seahawks that were 5 star recruits coming out of High School. I think they even said Bruce Irwin and Bobby Wagner were both 2 star recruits coming out of HS.

          • This is where Jeff’s “slave auction” comes in handy.
            They measured Watt. Saw his “metrics”. Projected him.

            The scouting combine HELPS certain “slaves”, even white ones like Watt, who do not have much tape or experience at the position they’re projected to in the NFL.

            Poe ran a sub-5.0 at 340, and shot up the draft boards. Good way for slaves to make a lil extra pocket change to by a tin harmonica and toothpick.

            Long more or less got drafted that way.

            Sure, Emery saw him “accidentally”, but the combine helped him make that choice.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I know you didn’t start us down that path, 85, but can we lose the “slave” references? I think the Blogfather was ill-advised to go there.

          • AlbertInTucson

            U of Arizona’s Scooby Wright was a “2 Star” recruit.

            He lead the nation in tackles for loss.

            His twitter handle is “2 Star Scooby.”

    • ah. so signing day is as big a crapshoot as the draft.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Russell Brand’s take on the Superbowl Ads.

    • CanadaBear

      He really is an annoying fucker. I could only do about a minute of it. Does he get in any shots on his ex?

    • GPLDAN

      That was brilliant Irish. Thank you for posting that. You are the only DBB’er who would.

    • This just in, advertizes are manipulative money-grubbing consumerism peddlers.
      They’re only about one step removed from Spielberg, really though.

      If anyone is stupid enough to buy a car or house based on a commercial, so be it.

      I never understand the “outrage” at capitalistic practices. They’ve ALWAYS been immoral, or amoral at best (Slaver, child labor, 18 hour days, safety violations, no regulation on beef, etc etc).

      Don’t like it? Don’t buy the product, vote for someone who actually wants change (ie not Rep/Dem), get involved in activists groups, put money where mouth/ideal is.

      I do find Brand very clever, though sometimes he can be exhausting.

      • GPLDAN

        Brand’s point was far more subtle than that. He’s pointing out the deceptive use of maudlin sentimentality as a means to elicit an emotion from you. If the advertiser gets an emotion from you, even one not normally thought of as positive – the placement sticks in your brain and you will go there during the decision matrix.

        Other times he’s just mocking the idiocy of the contrived world within the commercial such as the mock shock of the farmer that the dog came back, which are dark and funny observations.

        • “He’s pointing out the deceptive use of maudlin sentimentality as a means to elicit an emotion from you”

          How’s that any different than Spielberg besides the “end” of art vs money?

          A prof once told me that sentimentality is unearned emotions, and I agree with that def.
          It’s cheap, and commercials always go for the least common denominator. But I expect that.

          It’s like last year’s commercial of that farmer which was much more “powerful”, even used a poem and gothic americana to “touch” millions.

          I gotta admit, when I first viewed it, it did stir some strings…but then my rational side kicked in and I recognized its falshoods and that was that.

          The bigger issue is how all these ads affect the modern human psyche. I forgot the stat, but the avg human is bombarded by like at least 100 images, sights, sounds a day from ads, which might activate a myriad of sensations, feelings, etc

          What kind of effect does that have on a lowly schmuck just going through his typical work day?

          That’s a good question, and if that’s what Brand was alluding to, then I applaud him.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I think Mr. Brand is a whack job.

        • AlbertInTucson

          And BTW, Russell, nobody is forcing you to watch.

  • Jokey

    “ludicrous late-game collapse” worth price of admission right there. Great description. I’m posting this on wpedia.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    We leaned that strangely a lot of people didn’t already know Godel is clueless and incompetent as are the majority of NFL executives. I wouldn’t let Godel walk my dogs…which I don’t have.

    We learned that Jeff was privileged and fortunate to see “the greatest QB in Super Bowl era” at work, with his own eyes, in an fairy tale environment in a snowy afternoon at Soldier Field… and he questioned the value of the experience because of some air in the psy in the football during a 4 years later game.

    We’ve leaned that Jeff can be blatantly wrong in his pre game articles/posts. Not only he always loves the Bears, but his pre Patriots ‘game read’ was legendary bad (Revis is a shell of himself, Patriots DB can’t cover anybody, Chandler Jones ain’t that much and the Patriots D can’t stop the run).

    We’ve leaned that fans of teams that cheat like to call other teams cheaters out of envy and as an excuse of their own losing sorts.

    Just kidding man… having some fun. On a serious note…

    What we’ve really found out is that you need stellar Defense and Special teams in order to win in the NFL (especially if you’re the Chicago Bears who play in the Windy City) and a great GM needs to always be on the lookout for potential productive players, be it on the waiver wire, street FA and trades.

    We’ve also leaned that changing the direction of a franchise either starts with the ownership of that franchise changing their modus operandi or it doesn’t happen.

    • GPLDAN

      I’ve learned never to invite combative Romanians to dinner parties.

      • Don’t ever let them be bankers if you’re playing Monopoly against Romanians either.
        Apparently, cheating is not frowned upon and actually encouraged.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          said the American that bailed out the real bankers because “we can’t do shit without those cheaters” and consistently assassinate those who thought it can be done without them cheaters.

          Up your game… Butch.

          • I didn’t know I had a trillion lying around to bail them out.
            You, on the other hand, think everyone cheats and therefore every team should cheat.

            Try another straw man.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            No… again… if everybody cheats no one has the right to call anybody else a cheater.

            I hate the cheater that accuses of cheating another cheater. It implies he’s innocent. I’m not buying it and I’ll despise him the most. I accepted his cheating, I’m against his attempt to manipulate me.

            PS: you can’t use generalities while trying to look smart and squirm when somebody does it to you. That’s ‘cheating’….changing he rules in the middle of the god damn game.

          • You can’t use generalities? You’re just accusing every team of cheating without any proof.
            Maybe every team HAS cheated, once upon a time, so that means cheating should be the norm, and that whoever does get caught cheating (the Pats, or if the Falcons are found guilty for upping the levels, etc) should just be unpunished cuz everyone does it?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            akaButch… This isn’t about punishment. When did you ever ‘hear’ me say such a thing ?

            My entire point relates to the name calling and the general perception that team X are cheaters, others aren’t.

            We’ve had some astounding examples the past 10 days that make my point:

            -Jerry Rice accusing the Patriots of cheating while a report came out 1 day before where he admits cheating… putting stuff on his gloves so the footballs will stick. That 49ers team did a lot of shady things: salary cap violations, turning out the headsets of the opposition, a mobster owner.

            -the Panthers GM that accused Patriots of cheating in their Super Bowl while he had players on steroid that ended up in front of US Congress talking about steroids

            There are other numerous examples… but my point is made by these 2. Saying that a certain group are cheaters when everybody is a cheater is a manipulation that I’m not buying.

            And I’m going to despise the one that wants to sell himself as innocent while cheating more than the cheater that’s been caught red handed.

            This is a propaganda tactic that’s used a lot…for examples in wars, be them religious, racial or whatever. That’s why I despise it… I hate it, because that’s who I am.

          • GPLDAN

            As opposed to your friends the Russians who boldly assassinate any businessmen who expose the kleptocracy they call the government

            http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/02/sergei-magnitsky-murder-114878.html#.VNPVPf54pRY

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Don’t be clueless or at least don’t showboat your lack of understanding.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        don’t ever call a romanian where manners are part of the requested etiquette.

  • Peanut FTW

    Good, Bears extended Louis-Jean’s contract. I like the kid a lot. Watched him in camp, he definitely looks young at times but he has great size and reminds me a lot of Peanut at times.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I think he’s a Special Teamer. He’s got to ace that and he’ll have his chances on Defense also. One thing at a time.

  • Sactowns#1

    Just thinking about the big game and that last play. Can you imagine if that was Jake that threw that ball on Sunday? Sure he would take a beating from the negative Nancys in Chicago media but that’s because he has a record of throwing those picks. In fact it would be all too predictable if that had been Jake and I think for the most part everyone would just chalk it up to Cutty being Cutty. But Wilson had a history of not turning the ball over (that’s why my money was on Seattle) so it was a shock. What’s surprising is the fans, by in large, have stood by their man and the public lambasting never materialized.
    So my question is, is it because of the players and their history or is it because of the fan bases and what their fed by their hometown media?

    • CanadaBear

      A bit of both. You really have to be as asshole fan to pile on Wilson after winning the SB the year before. I’d be pissed and super disappointed but by the next day I’d put it into perspective. Of course, I’m old and a little slower these days.

    • Peanut FTW

      It is a combination of things. I do believe that the more reliant it is, situationally , on the play call; the coaching staff is going to be looked at more than the players for having them in the wrong play for that situation. But, once a player like Cutler has a silverback gorilla on his back about that type of play, he would definitely take more heat than Wilson ever will.

    • BerwynBomber

      Wilson is a third-year pro who has already helped them win one SB and engineered a drive that should have nabbed them a second. It is more about the play-call than anything else. The reflexive thing to say is they should have run Beast mode. And though it is not wrong, the real questionable aspect is the TYPE of pass play called. If you have Wilson in your backfield (not to mention Lynch) you should not want a short drop back/quick slant to be the passing play to define your entire season. Wilson is arguably the most mobile QB in the league as well as the shortest. Why call a play which eliminates the former attribute and potentially highlights the latter liability?

      Moreover, who was the receiver targeted? Butler may have beaten him to the ball by a quarter step but the kid targeted was hardly a BMarsh or Alshon big body type whom you can count on to screen off the defender. (Side note, for as woeful as our offense was last year, our RZ #s were still respectable almost entirely because of our two big wideouts.)

      Anyway, just a horrible call all the way around and one that will live in infamy.

      • willbest

        Yeah I was going to say if that was a slant to Jeffery or BMarsh, it wouldn’t have been picked. Though in that situation we probably would have gone with the 10.5 foot high rocket out the back of the end zone that only Bennett would have been able to come down with.

        • BerwynBomber

          Yep, BMarsh, Jeffrey and Bennett are fantastic at either screening/blocking out defenders and/or catching jump balls. Those skills, along with BMarsh’s and Jeffery’s blocking abilities (especially Marshall’s), are what truly make them special.

      • John Doe

        Agreed.

        Not only the pass play call was dumb but the guy they decided to throw to was a dumb decision as well.

        They did not throw to the two big TEs Chris Matthews and Luke Wilson or Kearse, they decided to throw it to Lockette.

        Lockette had 11 catches..I repeat, 11 catches in the entire season.

        Lockette has 18 catches in his whole damn career.

        And he is the guy you decide to throw to for the possible final play to win the Super Bow?

        Dumb.dumb.dumb.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      you can’t bash Wilson because if you bash Wilson you bash God.

  • CanadaBear

    Here’s a great interview with Otis Wilson and Steve McMIchael. It’s in 2 parts.

    http://windycitylive.com/episodes/Steve-McMichael-Otis-Wilson-Super-Shred/9545214

  • BearDown100393

    No wonder Jake Cutler is always grumpy and indifferent. He has been patiently waiting to be emancipated from the NFL for a decade.

    • willbest

      Not to pork and it isn’t up for discussion. She has admitted that she has a lot of cellulite and that it is photoshopped out.

    • CanadaBear

      Pork is right (as in tubby). After a few drinks and if she is fun, you bet. Usually fat girls are great at oral. Makes sense. Their whole life revolves around that orifice (talk a lot, eat a lot, etc.). Wouldn’t want to make it permanent. In a few years …

  • BerwynBomber

    “(3) Odell Beckham Jr. is the most electrifying wide receiver to enter the NFL since Randy Moss.”

    Maybe but I’d still go with the less electrifying Calvin Johnson or the semi-headache that is Dez Bryant.

  • John Doe

    Steve McMichael: ‘Jay Cutler is going to leave another body bag behind’

    Former Bears great Steve “Mongo” McMichael, appearing on ABC-7′s “Windy City Live,” had some harsh comments about Bears quarterback Jay Cutler.

    McMichael and Otis Wilson, teammates on the Bears’ 1985 Super Bowl team, talked about several topics during a candid interview.

    But when asked about new coach John Fox [at about 4:12 mark], McMichael lowered the boom on Cutler.

    “That’s why I’m wearing black,” McMichael said. “I’m in mourning. Cutler’s going to leave another body bag behind him.”

    When asked if the Bears should have dumped Cutler, McMichael responded: “They can’t. He’s like the bad nephew at the family reunion, double-dipping his chip. You want to take him in a room and slap him around, but you can’t. He’s family now.”

    http://chicago.suntimes.com/bears-football/7/71/346852/steve-mcmichael

    • CanadaBear

      Hmmm. That sounds familiar. Oh yeah, I posted that about an hour ago.

      • Sactowns#1

        touchy touchy

      • John Doe

        Sorry, I missed it. Apologies for the double post.

        • CanadaBear

          No big deal. Just pulling your chain.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Like Monty Python and the Holy Grail:

            “Please, please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion! Let’s not bicker and argue about who killed who.”

    • This is why I think it’s time to move on. It seems like 2014 was THE year for Cutler, the cross-roads. He FINALLY had what he always wanted (in the modern cap era), and not only did he disappoint, but he did so to the point of getting benched and obviously quit on the team (he wasn’t the only one, but they’re not QBs).

      It seems like a consensus now (except for the Cutler-ites on da DBB poll apparently).

      Can’t win with Jay, not the SB at least.

      But like Mongo pointed out, we’re stuck with him for at least one more season (barring some other team being dazzled by fool’s gold).

      We need to trade down, draft the best S/LB and in the second, QB Grayson. I don’t think it’s a “luxury” to get a viable option at QB. I think it’s a NECESSITY for the future.

      +85 for Mongo referencing Seinfeld too.

    • BearDown100393

      Jake Cutler doesn’t care about Mongo or his opinions.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      This is stupid. Fox can trade/cut Cutler if he wants to.

      If he doesn’t it’s on him. The good, the bad and the ugly.

  • Sactowns#1

    So I’m heading down to SD to visit my Godson who is in the hospital. I recall a couple of you said you live down there. If so let me know and maybe we can get a beer.

    • CanadaBear

      I’m sure MB would be up for it if you can contact him. Hope the godson is going to be OK.

      • NewBearInTown

        I’ve got MB’s contact info if you need a hookup.

    • GPLDAN

      I’ve constructed your iPod playlist for the trip down Highway 1. Thank me later….

      Three Dog Night – “Easy to Be Hard”

      Eric Burdon and the Animals – “Sky Pilot”

      Santana – “Soul Sacrifice”

      Four Tops – “Bernadette”

      Lynn Anderson – “(I Never Promised You a) Rose Garden”

      Sly and the Family Stone – “I Want to Take You Higher”

      Isaac Hayes – “Hyperbolicsyllabicsesquedalymistic”

      Marvin Gaye – “Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holler)”

      Stories – “Brother Louie”

      Donovan – “The Hurdy Gurdy Man”

      Johnny Mathis – “It’s Not for Me to Say”

      John Coltrane – “Mary’s Blues”

      Miles Davis – “Solar”

      The Johnny Mann Singers – “The Sound of the City”

    • AlbertInTucson

      SD was just listed as the most unaffordabve City in the USA.

  • GPLDAN

    Sure don’t sound like @BMarshall is going anywhere…and that would be great news for the 2015 Bears.

    Uh-huh. No. No it’s not.

    • BearDown100393

      If he goes, he goes.

    • John Doe

      On this one, don’t trust sources who are saying Marshall is not going anywhere.

      Why would Pace and Fox leak or confirm news that they are trying to trade Marshall? It serves them no purpose. Even if they plan to trade him (which nobody knows for sure) they will feed the exact opposite info to the “sources”.

      Remember how everyone, including Jeffe, trusted their “sources” on Chris Ballard?

      Sweaty Teddy, George, Accorsi fooled everyone on GM hire.

      • NewBearInTown

        Pace or Fox confirming news that they were trying to trade Marshall would (if I’m not mistaken) be confirming a violation of league rules. No trades till free agency starts.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    If Marshall wants to continue on inside the NFL, he better be doing it via remotes. Otherwise, it might be time for him to take a hike. We can take a chance on another UCF receiver, Breshad Perriman come on down.

    • GPLDAN

      How about David Terrell? He has some game left.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Haha, on a serious note, I also like Devin Smith from Ohio St. regardless of what happens with our WR’s during the offseason.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I think only game Terrell ever had was that two TD day against the 49ers to set up Mike Brown O.T. heroics.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      people see hard headed players like Marshall as a problem.

      in reality this kind of players are an opportunity for a competent leader…. in this case a HC.

      you can use him as an example for the entire roster. If you make the hard case give 100% the others surely will.

      it’s like in elementary school… the teacher that shuts the mouth of the crazy kid will have a silent classroom.

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