• Bears-4-Ever

    FIRST..now I’ll go listen.

  • Scott W.

    I confess, since it’s now obvious Toub isn’t going to get a look, I’ve lost a lot of interest in this search.
    Facing reality, the Ditkas, Buddy Ryans, Halas’s, Bellicheck’s, Harbaughs, and even Mike McCarthy’s of the coaching world are just rarities. We’ll wind up with another 2nd tier coach (still a step up), and meander through another so-so season.
    Shit.

    • Peanut FTW

      I’m not sure anyone else in that sentence belongs other than Halas and Beilichick. I think if you add both Harbaughs, McCarthy, Ditka and Ryans HC Super Bowl wins all together you might get to the number Belichick has alone. Halas was a different era and has a lot of Championships.

      • Scott W.

        I know. I was just tossing a few names on screen to make a point.

    • willbest

      If you are going to talk about elite coaches in the Super Bowl era is Don Shula, Bill Belichick, Tom Landry, Chuck Noll. Joe Gibbs.

      No HC has won a Super Bowl with two different teams, no coach has been to the super bowl with 3 different teams.

      • Scott W.

        It wasn’t meant to be a comprehensive list. Just a few example names.

    • Big Mike

      Toub wasn’t going to set the world on fire. Don’t kid yourself. Never been a coordinator, let alone a HC. He was going to be a good coach that learned on the job.

      On the other hand John Fox is going to be an amazing coach for the Bears if they can land him.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Apollo astronauts are sworn to secrecy? Is that why Armstrong wouldn’t talk about the moon – just made that weird comment about the “layers of truth”?? Is that why Edgar Mitchell keeps talking about massive cover-ups? And Buzz thinks we should check out the monlolith on Phobos? Why’s that Buzz? Whatchagot?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1204254/Has-mystery-Mars-Monolith-solved.html

  • GPLDAN

    Turks needed to go. He was brought in under Angelo and is part of that whole krew.

    It’s good to see Pace getting the broom out.

  • willbest

    It makes sense that Kevin Turks gets the axe first. Having done the job himself Pace knew exactly what he wants there so it would take him all of 5 minutes to figure out that Turk wasn’t it.

    • Big Mike

      Doesn’t mean he didn’t like Turks, it means he has his own guy he wants to bring in. Turks did well to survive so long with the Bears. 2001 or 2002 I read somewhere. Good to see the changes.

      • this happens all the time when new GMs come in. When Emery was in Atlanta and Dimitroff was brought in, Emery was demoted from head scout back to area scout. Dimitroff said it had nothing to do with Emery’s qualifications and everything to do with wanting the guys directly under him to be guys he knew.

  • Big Mike

    From ESPN.Com This is why we need Fox
    “Fox helped restore order after 2010’s 4-12 disaster that included the
    Spygate II scandal. He brought a steadying hand and returned humanity to
    the Broncos’ Dove Valley complex; people in all parts of the
    organization felt like their contributions mattered.

  • John Doe

    Accorsi doing his thing in the background..

    Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 路 3h3 hours ago

    Notes from my time on @NFL_AM today: #Bears job is the 1 John Fox wants, and he鈥檚 expected to interview. May not get #Falcons consideration

    • GPLDAN

      Apparently Rex Ryan really wanted the Falcons job, and now is spinning it as if he loves Buffalo.

      I think the Falcons want Bowles.

      It would be a first for the Chicago Bears to hire an experienced HC to steady the ship – the first time it ever happened.

      Perhaps a good sign that they realize how far out of skew the ship went under Emery, who spent them into a deep hole with awful result.

      • willbest

        Fox is too conservative. He doesn’t know when to bet it all.

        • John Doe

          Bears first need to stop being a laughing stock.

          If John Fox helps to bring back some respectability, then I am all for him.

          We can then have the luxury to debate how he is too conservative and not much of a gambler after that.

        • Enter, Cutler…the gambling man.

      • John Doe

        I guess Rex did not want to wait and let the process play out. But am surprised Bills went so hard after him. They already had great defense and had a good DC in Gym Shorts whom they could have have promoted. Not sure what Rex brings for Bills.

        Yes, Fox would be good experienced even if conservative HC for Bears. Emery did screw up Bears quite a bit in two years. A bunch of draft misses, Cutler, Allen, Marshall contracts etc. have put Bears in a hole for the next 2 years.

  • John Doe

    DC Vic Fangio available..

    Rotoworld: CSN Bay Area confirms that DC Vic Fangio would request a release from his contract if he’s passed over by a younger candidate for the 49ers’ head coaching vacancy.

    The 56-year-old Fangio apparently doesn’t want to work for Adam Gase, 36, or Jim Tomsula, 46. He would be willing to remain with the team if Mike Shanahan, 62, gets the job. Fangio was the first head-coaching candidate to interview with the Niners, but seems like a longshot to land the gig.

    • That would be AWESOME.
      Fox would be OK, esp considering our other options, if he surrounded himself with a great OC/DC.

      If Fangio would work for Shanny, I think he’ll def work for Fox.

      I think the Fox hire will hinge on which OC he chooses.

      Fox is conservative by nature, so I think he needs an aggressive young play-caller at OC, a McDaniels type.
      Maybe Kyle Shanny, though I would have to see what other young aggressive OCs are available.

  • Bears interviewing Austin today. Not terribly impressed with his coaching connections, which is bizarre considering some of the excellent staffs he’s been a part of in the last 10-12 years. It’s just that most of those guys are stably employed and not really available to him.

    http://dabearsbeat.com/2015/01/13/teryl-austin-coaching-connections/

    • one reason I like Dan Quinn is because he has the most impressive list of connections I’ve looked at so far (Quinn, Austin, Bowles, Toub), which means he’d likely put together best staff out of those 4. Fox could probably trump that, but I don’t want an old coach who’ll be gone in 5 years even if he pans out.

      • GPLDAN

        5 years is an eternity in the NFL.

        It would be lovely if Fox could bring Gase with him and groom him to take over as HC while they do 2 seasons with him as OC.

        But the Niners have come calling on Gase, so that may not happen.

      • Johnnywad

        He’s 59 isn’t he?

        • 44

        • oh, if you meant Fox, yes, he’s 59, but he’ll be 60 next month. Far as I know, Coughlin (68) is only >65 coach in NFL.

          • Johnnywad

            Yeah I was thinking Fox. That seems about the right age for this particular job to me. They need a disciplinarian father figure type at the moment.

    • GPLDAN

      Pace isn’t a weirdo like Emery, flying all over the globe conducting 20 interviews, making experienced coaches do mock pressers and all the nonsense that kook did.

      Pace will stop here soon and hire Fox. I get the impression this guy is on point, and on point quickly.

      • John Doe

        Emery flying all over the globe to conduct 20 interviews was an act.

        He had decided on Trestman long before that.

        But he had to show the world how thorough he was and found the best coach in Trestman after that thorough search.

        I have to say he put up a pretty good act.

        Why would anyone pick Trestman over Arians is something I will never understand. Unless Trestman, desperate for his first NFL HC job, agree to give a cut of his salary to Emery.

        • GPLDAN

          The ‘ol kickback theory.

          Very Chicago.

          • John Doe

            That’s the only one makes sense to me.

            When a casual fan like me could see Arians was a better choice, how could Emery, who was getting paid millions, not see it?

          • GPLDAN

            Arians did not like Emery or respect him. His subsequent interview where he disparages the interview itself indicates how little he thought of the process.

          • John Doe

            He may not have liked Emery but I am sure he must have put on the act through the process. Arians did not have a job or even Cardinals interview lined up.

            If Emery had offered him the job, he would have taken it notwithstanding his dislike of Emery. And Emery should have given the job to the best guy and not who likes me or who will be a good yes man.

          • GPLDAN

            Agreed.

            Trestman’s flaccid ways were pretty evident in that his whole locker room revolted and became a zoo.

        • SC Dave

          The 20-20 hindsight on Trestman vs. Arians has become very tedious.

    • GPLDAN

      sigh.

      What did we get in that Greg Olsen trade? Olsen made the Pro Bowl for the first time this year.

      • John Doe

        I think Bennett wants out of Chicago. He would rather join his brother in Seattle.

        • GPLDAN

          March 15 is the contract deadline to pay Cutler the next big chunk.

          Pace has gotta be working the lines to dealing him. It’s coming and the wideouts know it.

          • you think the wr’s would rather he stayed?

          • GPLDAN

            I think Marshall and Bennett would.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Good God. Imagine Uni and BM on the Hawks.

          • John Doe

            March 12 is the deadline. If Cutler is on the roster on March 13, $10 million for 2016 becomes fully guaranteed.

            So they have to trade or cut Cutler on or before March 12, 2015.

          • willbest

            No they have to trade Cutler whenever, because the new team was going to be bound by the guarentees anyway. They have to cut him if they just want to hand him 15.5 million and be done with him, because otherwise they have to hand him 25.5 mil to be done with him

          • willbest

            Fox is the least likely coach to hire if you are trading Cutler.

      • we got the privilege of brandon manamunaeula and a third that helped us land marshall. fun stuff.

    • CanadaBear

      Something tells me they will be OK.

    • BearDown100393

      Martellus Bennett is an established idiot. Kyle Long is just trying to join the membership.

      • BillW

        Strange – if I didn’t’ know the people involved I’d probably side with Bennett. “Get a life” indeed. But Bennett is a bit out there.

        • BearDown100393

          Kyle needs to step away from Twitter. Not the first time.

          • BillW

            Twitter can be like a high tech version of “got you last”.

          • BearDown100393

            Kyle and Marty need to settle this old school style – 1st man to throw down the other is the champ.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I always thought that about Uni after about the second interview I saw. And upending Fuller in practice was proof positive.

    • I remember some nickle cb making idiotic tweets, then lovie called him in to the principal’s office.
      He continued, then he was no longer on the Bears the next week.

      The sooner we get a coach, the sooner some discipline can be instilled.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Everything that is wrong with Twitter right here. Girly spats in restrooms made public.

  • GPLDAN

    That Fox 2003 team with Delhomme damn near won that Super Bowl. Brady worked some mojo and Vinetari beat them with the last moment FG.

    Considering this was the heyday of the Bellicheat CIA, who knows what the Pats had on the Panthers going into that game, and they almost lost anyway.

    So I agree with Jefe: Fox’s ceiling is assembling a team that can win it all.

    • willbest

      That is assuming he hasn’t lost a step. He clearly couldn’t out coach Pagano despite having 9 pro-bowlers. And lets not forget the turd they laid last year.

      • WP4Life

        Living here in Denver with Bronco mania: It appears that Fox has been handicapped by 18. Yes during the season 18 sets all the records but 9, 1 and outs. He could not Bench 18 the last months, Elway doesn’t have a solid backup for 18. 18 earns a good chunk against team #’s. Fox type of team won playoff with tebow. They built the Broncos around mannings wants, not team needs. So so D besides big names bought, and no running game. Mannings type of O doesn’t hold up well in playoffs.

        • BillW

          Interesting. Thanks for the local insight.

        • I sorta agree. It was obvious that Manning couldn’t hit those sideline routes towards the end of the season, so he effectively became Dalton-Schaub.

          The Colts smartly took away the middle of the field, and dared him to throw those tight balls over the top, knowing Manning would miss more often than not.

          My step-dad is a huge Broncos’ fan, and he’s glad Manning is gone. Blames it mostly on him.

          When I told him Fox was dumped, he was not happy.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Welcome brother.

    • Scharfinator

      Interestingly enough, Belicheat’s record is better post-spygate than pre.

      • Except he hasn’t won any SBs since.
        That Ram’s game was really close too.

        • Cormonster

          All the Patriots Super Bowl appearances have been very close under Billicheat. They won all three by 3 points, and lost two by 3 and 4 points.

          • True, but some of those ppl involved with the Rams were esp pissed off about the “spy-gate” and that little edge might have been enough.

            Those other teams defeated by the Pats might have been pissed off too once the spy-gate scandal broke, but I specifically recall Rams personnel really upset.

            Something along the lines like ‘they knew our first 15 plays’ etc etc

          • Irish Sweetness

            Interesting. So if Belicheat had Shula’s morals, and didn’t access the opponent’s gameplan etc. Does he have ANY superbowls to his name?

        • Scharfinator

          Most super bowls have been close in the last 10-15 years (a few exceptions exist).

          He’s still been to 2 SB since then? Pretty solid, though he can’t seem to figure out the NYG.

    • Shanny WON SBs (not just lost them like Fox) with an old Elway.
      I’m beginning to see Hub’s view here. If Fox’s ceiling is a SB win, then what does that make Shanny’s ceiling? (and I’m no Shanny fan).

  • TheBigCheesy

    Jeff talking about “greatness” on display in the NFCCG and not a single mention of number #12. Not even just to say it will be interesting to watch the great Seattle secondary matchup against the MVP on the biggest stage. Classic.

    • willbest

      I would be surprised if the Packers lose by less than 20 myself.

      • TheBigCheesy

        A reasonable prediction. Also, irrelevant to the comment.

        • GPLDAN

          #12’s second half performance against the Cowboys was inspired play.

          I wish Rodgers were 100% to give Seattle everything they have, but it should be interesting to watch. The Seahawks will win – but you know that.

          • TheBigCheesy

            Anything is possible, but I wouldn’t really give the Packers much more than the obligatory any-given-sunday hope. That, and Aaron Rodgers always gives them a puncher’s chance.

          • BillW

            Rodgers gives them much more than a puncher’s chance. Tough luck but injuries happen all over. I expect Seattle to win, but if the Pack pull it off due to Rodgers’ leadership, no one can honestly be shocked.

          • BearDown100393

            However if he decided to forgo a pair of crutches and just gimp over to a steak house instead of play, all would be perfectly understood and quickly forgotten right?

          • BillW

            Make no mistake I will be happy to see the Packers lose.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Reminds me of the scene from Bloodsport. Right before Ray Jackson is gonna fight Chong Li, Frank Dux (Van Damme) tells Ray to aim for the gut because “he’s soft there.” If Seattle has a soft spot it’s the run, they got gashed in a few games this year, if the Packers come out and pound Lacy and Starks it would greatly increase their chances. It’s the only way they pull it out in my opinion. It’ll be tough to do and more likely than not this is what Seattle will be telling the Patriots:

        • willbest

          I guess that was my way of saying it wouldn’t be particularly interesting. Because your game plan against the packers gets so much simpler when you don’t have to worry about Aaron Rodgers moving faster than a light jog, and the #1 defense in the league has talent to spare.

          • TheBigCheesy

            I might agree with you except for the performances he has put up over his last two games. I understand Dallas is weak against the pass, but Detroit has a fantastic defense. Regardless, defeating aaron rodgers in the NFCCG would be quite the notch on the bedpost. I figured it was worth a mention if you’re talking about growing the legend of the Seattle defense.

          • willbest

            True, but Detroit didn’t have a functional offense or special teams, and the game isn’t at Lambeau. I am expecting Buffalo, but worse.

          • TheBigCheesy

            can’t argue there

          • TheBigCheesy

            Football Outsiders has Seattle at #5 in offensive efficiency (weighted DVOA). That’s pretty scary. (They are obviously #1 on defense)

          • BillW

            Smart way of thinking Cheesy. Seriously. Prepare for the worst. If they come across and win, it’s that much more satisfying.

            We got one of those this year (sort of) when the Bears beat SF.

            Remember the Bears winning? That was awesome! (RIP Chris Farley)

    • CanadaBear

      Didn’t you hear enough wonderful things about #12 during their game Sunday to last you ’til next season?

      • TheBigCheesy

        Not from my favorite blogger. And really all I’ve heard this week was catch/non-catch discussion. I watched the game at a bar so I couldn’t really hear buck and aikman wax poetic.

        • CanadaBear

          Wax is an appropriate term. They waxed his bayonet for 3+ hours.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Waxed and then polished for another eternity

          • “bayonet” is slang for “penis”

          • CanadaBear

            Not sure that needed to be clarified. I thought it was assumed! In any case, thanks!

          • Johnnywad

            He’s from Green Bay. It was necessary. Cheesy was wondering why Rodgers brought his bayonet to the game and what it was doing in the booth anyway.

      • Cormonster

        Packer fans, for some reason, have a deep hatred for Aikman and Buck. My Facebook page was lit up on Sunday with Packer friends ripping on Aikman and how he always “roots” for the other team to win. It’s very screwed up. It’s as if any perceived slight of the Packers proves they are rooting for the other team. I think it goes back to the days when all the Packer fans loved listening to Max McGee and Jim Erwin on the radio while watching the game.

        Many Packer fans hated Wayne Larivee his first few years because he would actually call plays the way he seen them, and God forbid didn’t go total homer on every play. He would even criticize the team, coaches, and players and call them out! Very taboo.

        • BerwynBomber

          This is nonsense on both sides: pro-Cheese or anti-Cheese, or for that matter, pro-Bears/anti-Bears, or pro-any team/anti-any team.

          Buck and Aikman are paid to sell product and call a game as objectively as they can. They blow every star. They always do. It’s part of the gig. Hell, up until this year, Gruden used to blow Cutty with all the “gunslinger” talk every Monday night Bears game.

          Anyway, stupid complaints/whines coming from either side.

          • Yeah, when Gruden goes ROGUE on a QB, you know it’s over.

          • CanadaBear

            Not really. Did you listen to the broadcast? Buck almost had a litter of kittens before they re-spotted the ball. Yes, it was an obviously bad spot but he went insane. When Rodgers hit one of his TD’s Aikman was giggling like a school girl. I get they go into games with certain players to flog and certain scenarios but Sunday went way beyond. Usually Romo at least gets a handy from these guys. They were treating him like he was Cutler. It was bizarre.

    • Tweet from Sunday: “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog

      Give Aaron Rodgers a shitload of credit. He’s at about 28% out there. Maybe 29%. The pain must be excruciating.”

      • BearDown100393

        28, 29% I figured it was about 28.243215%.

        • GPLDAN

          • TheBigCheesy

            nice

      • TheBigCheesy

        “(Love that nobody can tell if I’m kidding or not.)

        You know who is watching this game and laughing? Seattle.

        We now have a second team advancing in the postseason under suspect circumstances. But @nflcommish is a man of integrity, greatness …etc.

        Sport is in a bad place. It was coming. Its here.”

        @DBB

        #salty

        • SC Dave

          Well, we could go for three in a row, and get the Packers into the Bowl.

      • BillW

        I actually wondered if he was being sarcastic. “28% – 29%”. Seemed strange – but I’ve said many times Twitter can make people sound confusing.

  • BillW

    I assume there are no rules that require coaching interviews to be announced. The Pace deal happened so fast he was able to interview Bowles the same day he signed the contract. Meaning it was that easy to iron out a GM contract for an NFL team? I suspect there were “parameter discussions” prior to the interview.

    Same with Fox. We may have another presser this week to listen to.

    • willbest

      I suspect first time GM and HC contracts are pretty boilerplate in terms of length, pay, and benefits/perks. So Pace is really just negotiating level of control coach hire, 53, draft, front office staff, etc.

      Fox having HC experience would give him more leverage, though not if certain powers had already been contracted to Pace.

      • BillW

        True. I just am thinking / assuming the Bears were / are doing a LOT more yesterday / today than simply having an interview with Mr. Detroit DC (I refuse to learn his name; he’s the least relevant person in this whole thing IMO).

        • willbest

          I would much rather have Teryl Austin than Adam Gase. But then I don’t want him either. Don’t want Fox either though.

          Bowles or Quinn based on the names we know.

          • BillW

            Not against them but the media has implied they are both “spoken for”. But then again the media had Ballard as our GM so what do they know?

          • BerwynBomber

            A vote up for being the one voice against Fox.

            P.S. I actually like him but I do worry that his hiring will signal there will not be much wholesale rebuilding the next couple of years, which to me is merely delaying the bill, if not running it up.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Teryl Austin?

            The Lions Offense didn’t exactly light up the scoreboard against the Packers this season and wasn’t one of Detroit’s TDs against Green a defensive TD?

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’d like both if they were our DC, but Fox is likely the better HC right now, his learning curve is mostly in the past. I don’t want my top guy learning on the job.

  • WP4Life

    Elways presser: Fox and I didn’t agree on next steps. elway: I think Peyton has (at-least)1 more year in him etc.. Looked like Elway has same sports coat on the 18 always wears locally. I am an Elway fan from his playing days. I think elway and fox – have a difference on how to build a championship team – through high powered offense or (fox) solid d and with running game…

    • GPLDAN

      Did John Elway get up there and say Peyton should come back 1 more year? Seriously?

      • WP4Life

        No. That he expects him back, after giving Peyton time to think about things. Its really Peyton team over Fox.

  • Trac

    I guess you can’t ever tell when these guys are serious or not but if they are, what a bunch of twats.

    http://thebiglead.com/2015/01/13/martellus-bennett-and-kyle-long-chicago-bears-teammates-are-feuding-over-a-twitter-unfollowing/

    • AlbertInTucson

      Twitter is The Devil’s Spawn

  • Bear Down in Tampa
  • Bears-4-Ever

    As If the Bears don’t have enough Drama going on. This is why I don’t twitter and have a facebook page.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24959858/bears-te-martellus-bennett-unfollows-teammate-on-twitter-chaos-ensues

    • Scharfinator

      It can’t be serious. Unless Bennett is getting seriously butthurt. If it is serious, we should probably toss him. Too much off the field stuff.

      • CanadaBear

        I doubt he tries to body slam this Kyle!

      • Irish Sweetness

        And there’s nobody in place at Halas to grab them both by the ears and tell them to cut that shit out.

    • BearDown100393

      Kyle Long apparently has had enough of Twitter.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Which would be a GOOD thing.

    • SC Dave

      Wow. Who the fuck cares?

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Whatever happened to knocking the other guy out at a gun range?
      What has happened to my NFL?!?

  • SC Dave
  • BillW

    Jeff retweets and agrees::

    I think chi media/fans are self loathing.

    I see the point and partly agree. But given my 60 plus years here in Chicago I offer the following perspectives:
    1. You see it mostly with the Cubs and Bears; not really with the Bulls and Hawks. (The Hawks were legitimately a bad organization for many years; but still there were few Hawks haters – just Bill Wirtz haters.
    2. Cubs and Bears have / had in town rivals and are / were arguably the more popular team. So a lot of ridicule (good natured or otherwise) came their way.
    3. Impatience by even the true fans (like us on the blog) fueled in part by arguably downright embarrassing incompetence of the teams in question.
    4. Overall it’s complicated. I think the size of the market and the overall history after sports became TV driven in the 60s plays into it. GB as an extreme example has the college town “all for one” mentality that simply can’t / won’t be replicated.

    Going further with the market size, there was a story on the news last evening about an Oregon bar literally right next to a Ohio State bar in the DePaul area. There are bars “devoted” to nearly every pro football team and many many college teams in Chicago. I suspect you don’t see anything but Wisconsin and Packer bars in GB.

    In summary, there are a lot of “shots” fired by rival fans towards the Bears and Cubs – and their pathetic performance gets the fans somewhat angry that they are supporting “losers”.

    Even in 1985 I remember a segment of the Sportswriters on TV where they were complaining about the Bears not performing as well as expected in a victory. Either Gleason or Jauss said “they’ll win the Super Bowl and then you guys will say ‘Sure – but can they do it again?’ Let’s enjoy this.”

    I’m ready to be optimistic that we are building a sustained competitive team.

    Signed,
    The Poster Formerly Known as Eeyore

    • CanadaBear

      For me it goes like this. Being a Cubs fan you have to be able to handle the shit because after 106 years of not winning it all, you can’t fight everyone. The shit you take from being a Cubs fan is relentless and from all sides. Whenever someone tries to get me stirred up about the Cubs I always say anyone can have a bad century. At some point, even the dumbest fucker figures out I don’t give a shit what they say.

      I used to go to a lot of Cubs games and a few Bears games back in the ’70’s. Cubs games were $1.50 for the bleachers and a 20 oz Old Stool was $1. You could see the game, take the train both ways and get hammered for under $20. Bears games were $14 for the shitty seats (the only ones available) and you couldn’t buy a beer at Soldier Field. Both teams sucked but people were pissed when the Bears sucked. It was just assumed with the Cubs.

      I think the self loathing is BS. It was never like that before sports talk radio/TV. Those shows do nothing but stir up the fan base (the less intelligent ones as far as I’m concerned). Those dopes lead the charge to be outraged over the shitty teams. Of course, they lead the charge to be outraged when the teams are good but didn’t win the SB or WS. I think the stupid, meathead fan is sports talk’s audience and they really work it.

      • BillW

        That’s the part I don’t get. (Outrage rather than simple disappointment when a team doesn’t win the SB or WS even if they make the playoffs.)

        It’s the mathematician in me – I always go into the “32 teams so it would take a minimum of 32 years for everyone to win a SB starting today etc.” Even the Cubs – it’s actually less unlikely than you’d think mathematically for a team to go over 100 years.

        But I think as time has gone on people like jumping on a loser. And the odds are more with them that they will right. I could stupidly say year after year after year that Green Bay won’t win the Super Bowl and so far I’d be right 44 times out of 48. Genius huh?

        Also, there are many casual fans that want to be part of the conversation and it’s easier to pick reason why a team loses than why it doesn’t win (if you get the distinction). And you can be dead wrong and still get support. (Cutler stinks! They need to fire the coach! The McCaskey should just sell the team! We need Ditka back!)

        Lastly, no matter what the Bears do (or other teams) there is a seemingly legit reason why it’s wrong. And nothing short of winning a championship (unlikely as that is for anyone) proves that wrong. To this day people refuse to give Ditka credit for XX.

        Wait until we hire a coach. If it’s Fox, people will say he’s too old and hasn’t won a SB. If it’s not, those VERY SAME PEOPLE will claim the Bears were too cheap to hire an experienced coach.

        I asked a Packer fan I know to tell me BEFORE the Bears make a hire which coach he thinks is the best candidate. He refused. I said I expected that – you want to reserve the right to criticize the hire. (The same guy was suh a Cutler basher he insisted Caleb Hanie was a better QB. I told him in all seriousness I won’t listen to any football opinions he has anymore.)

        Wow – this was a ridiculously long post. Struck a nerve I guess.

        • GPLDAN

          I begin to question how many years you lived in Chicago, Bill.

          Do you remember the Mike North years on the Score?
          Chet Coppick?
          Do you know how long Les Grobstein has been in radio?

          Did you read Jay Mariotti?
          Mike Royko on the Bears?

          Hell, let’s get Al old school with it.

          Studs Terkel?
          Fahey Flynn?
          Lorn Brown?
          The estimable Jimmy Piersall and Disco Demolition?
          Joe McConnell?
          Steve Stone?
          Ron Santo?

          I bet Al remembers when Irv Kupcinet called Bears games.

          • BillW

            Irv? “Dat’s right GP!”

            You realize “lately” for me starts around 1975!

          • BillW

            And you forgot Vince and Lou; Lloyd for the Hawks; “Rip City, Chicago” for the Bulls (who was that? I think it was after the Motta years but maybe not.)

          • AlbertInTucson

            Jim “Bull” Durham?

          • AlbertInTucson

            Yes. I remember Kup doing color with for Brickhouse.

        • Scott W.

          That was a great post, Bill. Enjoyed reading it.
          Well done sir.

    • GPLDAN

      It’s funny to me when younger people like Jeff write stuff like this.

      Clearly none of them have gone to see Bleacher Bums in the theater. Which, for Jeff, since he’s a playwrite and all, should be mandatory viewing.

      To understand the Chicago fandom experience one needs the larger historical perspective that some of the better writers over the years have provided.

      • BillW

        I miss many of the old writers. David Haugh writes In the Wake of the News – that Dave Condon used to write?? Please. What an insult.

        Jauss; Gleason; who was that from the Chicago American that was the Bears beat writer? I can picture him. Can’t find him on Wiki.

        • BerwynBomber

          Haugh is horrible. I don’t get his popularity. Is he is the son of an influential person? Even guys I do or did not like, I could at least makes sense of their popularity. Haugh’s baffles me.

          • GPLDAN

            Jefe hates Haugh.

            To me, Haugh is a skeptic – a guy who takes a critical tone always. But he doesn’t openly hate on the Bears the way that – say – Telander does.

            Telander just despises the Bears. Hates them with a passion. As he gets old and crotchety, he’s turning into Bernie Lincicome.

          • Scott W.

            David Haugh should be an obit writer. He’d be great at it.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Studs Terkel, dudes like that? That’s what’s missing from journalism generally. Writers. People who were actual honest-to-god writers. Real writers who happened to write about sports. Boxing match reports used to read like short stories once upon a time. There are still a couple of guys who do it for horse racing in Britain/Ireland. A couple, mind you.

        In football, only that Easterbrook guy seems to write with any intelligence.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Why am I a Bears Fan?
      I was born in Chicago, so I wanted to root for Chicago teams.
      Dad took me to Bear games at Wrigley (although being a South Sider his original alligience was to The Cardinals),
      White Sox games at Comiskey, Little Looie and Little Nell. Big Klu and Minnie,
      Blackhawks games at the Stadium. Bobby & Stan & Mr. Goalie.

      I was there in ’67 when the Bulls were born with guys like Guy Rodgers and Bob Boozer.
      I was a big fan of the Walker-Love-Sloan-Van Lier Boerwinkle/Awtry teams but the more modern NBA is kind of lost on me.

      Why are there, seemingly, sooo many Cowboy & fans? Because when they got good, and stayed good, a lot of People jumped on the bandwagon.
      Same for all the Steeler Fans you see everywhere. There just AIN’T that many folks from Pittsburgh. And that franchise SUCKED until the 70s.

      The bandwago jumping was only natural since the Cowboys and Steelers were getting good when TV discovered what a gold mine the NFL was (and vice versa). If you didn’t have a local NFL team, TV was there with a vast selection to choose from including those upstarts from the AFL. Might as well start with a winner.

      So, I was born to the teams I root for and it’s just not in my DNA to switch teams to be a fan of, even when they suck for DECADES.

      I’m not saying you CAN’T switch, unless it’s a “flavor of the month” type of thing. And if the White Sox had actually moved away to Florida, I doubt if I’d contnued to be a Sox fan.

  • BerwynBomber

    Don’t understand the Fox firing unless Manning is retiring. Seems a dumb move by Elway who has generally made smart ones.

    • Trac

      Fox wanted to hitch his wagon to a new train. It’s called the “L” baby.

      • GPLDAN

        If you are writing about Chicago’s transit system, it’s always spelled “El”.

        As in – elevated trains. The papers and writers do not just use the letter.

        • Trac

          Hahaha. You are so kind to me Sir. I did think of you when I posted that. Lol.

        • BerwynBomber

          It is actually “L”. When I used to ride the green and red lines daily 10+ years ago CTA even had “L” signs above the cars’ doors.

          http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-02-14/news/ct-talk-cta-el-or-l-0214-20120214_1_cta-train-cta-twitter-tweet

          • Trac

            Yeah man, we don’t need no stinking El ‘s in cheecago man!

          • BillW

            It used to be El but most recently “L” seems preferred

          • willbest

            Wouldn’t surprise me. They changed a perfectly good Loop into circle. Which makes no sense because it is in fact a rectangle so if they were going to change it they should at least call it what it is.

          • SC Dave

            That’s revisionist shit, probably from the past 15 years or so. Perhaps the Obama camp thinks El is too hard to spell for his constituents?

          • GPLDAN

            I just spent 10m on google image. I can never remember a Chicago El car door having the letter ‘L’ on it to designate what it was.

            I read your link and the quote from the Trib editor who said use ‘L’. That is fucking bizarre to me, I lived here for most of my life and it’s always been El. Always.

          • BerwynBomber

            It was in the advertising gutters above the door. Hell, maybe it was on the maps on the cars. But I DISTINCTLY remember a tilted “streaming” red L.

            I always figured it was so named because of the Loop.

            Btw, here is a CTA map that refers to it as “L” but it is not the sign/map I am thinking of:

            http://www.presselite.com/iphone/chicagorapidtransit/images/8.jpg

          • AlbertInTucson

            Some old CTA Ads used to read “Park N Ride. Park near an “L” station…Ride CTA’s FAST “L” Subway trains.”

          • Goes the other way too, right. The “Aye-Train”

        • AlbertInTucson
    • BillW

      Disagreed on the future of the team is one angle. Elway thinks Peyton has one more year left. Elway wants a Super Bowl under his leadership. Beyond that I don’t know.

      • BerwynBomber

        Still doesn’t make sense unless Manning is retiring or wanted Fox out, and I can’t imagine the latter unless there was major rancor, which doesn’t seem Manning’s style.

        And why would anyone in Denver be against handing the ball off to CJ Anderson given how the last half of the season played out? Something else must be going on.

      • Doc Hamstring

        Do you think Elway makes that move without Manning giving it a nod?

        Flip side: would Elway fire the coaching staff if that meant pissing Manning off enough to retire?

        No, unless Manning told Elway in no uncertain terms he was hanging it up, Fox’s departure was done with Manning’s blessing/approval.

    • WP4Life

      Seemed reactionary. Elway see’s through rose colored glasses at #18.

  • Trac

    Elway is such an ass. I just read an article where he dumped on Fox for the Broncos not going down fighting in their last game of the season for two years in a row. I guess he forgot about the 55-10 shellacking in the SB in 1989 when he was the QB.

    • he ran in the broncos only score in that game. so, ya know, effort.

  • BerwynBomber

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog “Also, Mr. Elway. If Peyton Manning doesn’t come back next year, you have no roster.”

    Can’t say I agree unless they decide to go into total rebuild mode. Denver has a lot of talent on both sides of the ball. Yes, Petyon is Peyton, but with a half-decent HC and QB that team should be .500, maybe better.

    • NewBearInTown

      And that, in the modern NFL, is what we call quarterback purgatory.

      • BerwynBomber

        Of course but almost every NFL team faces it and discounting the entire Denver roster because of Manning seems short-sighted. They led the league in Pro Bowlers this year.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          going to lose some to retirement or FA – Manning, Welker, D. Thomas, J. Thomas.

  • Trac

    I’m sure that it’s being reported Fox is the new Bears HC.

    • Link it or it didn’t happen!

      • Trac

        Somewhere, someone is reporting it. I can feel it in my bones. Hahahaha

  • BerwynBomber

    Here is my only concern about the potential Fox hire — for those hoping for a sizable if not total rebuild the next two years, this does NOT seem to signal that will happen. So, in another words, we will try to build the D a bit thru the draft and maybe some limited free agency and try to contend otherwise with what we have. Color me skeptical if that is the plan.

    But Fox in and of himself would be a solid hire.

  • Jason Garrett got $6M a year? What?????????? – Jeff

    And all yes-men everywhere nod in approval.

  • BillW

    So Old Sauce may not be joining Lovie?

    Old journalism saying:if your mom says she loves you, check it out first.

  • Hub throwing cold water on Fox hunt.

    “How is Fox better than Shanny? Shanny has 40 more wins and 3 more SBs and are 1 year apart in age…”

    • GPLDAN
    • WP4Life

      I don’t know who will win for our Beloved…we just want somebody to win.

      why didn’t shanny win in d.c, he gave 2/3 picks for RG3, owner influence?
      fox won w Delhome
      maybe a first time hc would bring more fire and energy for winning?

      tress won as OC – maybe if emery brought tress in for oc and kept lovie we would be winning.

      Pace – has a major decision – go with solid winners shanny/fox and their schemes or go with newbie HC…

    • SC Dave

      Fuck Hub. Right up the ax-le.

      • He also threw cold water on the Cutler trade when he initially came to CHI.
        Sometimes the bitter barfly at the corner table is bitter for good reason.

        • GPLDAN

          For the 1994 season, he shared the WBBM booth with Butkus and just Butkus. They used to have Fencik in there, but he left. So it was just the two of them calling games. I listened to a lot of those games.

          I thought Dick was going to wring his neck on several occasions.

          • The Bears fielded a team in ’94?
            I think I bought my first pair of Doc Martins in 94.

          • GPLDAN

            Did you sleep with the chick at the Doc Martens store who sold them?

            You did, didn’t you? I bet she totally had a nose ring.

          • haha, gentlemen never tell, so yeah, I did! (no actually, I went to another store).

            Funny part? The salesMAN at the other store asked for MY #. Said he’d call me when my size came in, wink wink. (NTTAWWT)

            I don’t know what’s going on with Doc Martin Co.

            I didn’t go back. I should’ve given him MBs # bwhaha

          • GPLDAN

            He had a size 12 for you. Said it would fit snug.

    • Johnnywad

      Maybe Hub should pull his head out of his ass a minute. Perhaps its got something to do with John Fox coaching in the last Superbowl and a first round bye this season. Or just in general that he’s appeared in the last what, four playoffs? On the other side of the coin, Shanahan’s got a stink trail the size of Halley’s Comet still following him from Washington. Or perhaps its the obvious and immediate reaction that fans will have that Shanahan is another hire made for the sake of Cutler. Fair or not, that would be the perception.
      If somebody as detached from the NFL as me, can put that together, why can’t Hub?

      • willbest

        Okay, but 4 years ago winning the AFCW was like winning the NFCS this year, and for the other 3 years he had the best regular season QB ever under center.

      • SC Dave

        Perhaps because you’re many times smarter than he?

    • AlbertInTucson

      Chances of The Bears hiring a Head Coach that Hub Arkush approves of:

      1) Slim

      2) None

      3) Less than none

  • RenoBear

    All I can say is ….. Anybody but Marrone! That guy is the last thing we need. No gase either, not sold

  • Shady

    No love for Teryl Austin today, huh?

    • Nobody really believes he’ll be the next HC.
      Ergo, he’ll be the next HC.

      • Shady

        He’s been a part of winning organizations, he’s coordinated one of the best defenses in the league. The only knock against him I’ve heard is that he’s wet behind the ears. I was hoping DBB would gather some interesting nuggets on the guy today. Maybe tomorrow.

  • GPLDAN
    • Trac

      Is there such a thing anymore?

    • Johnnywad

      Nothing says “I’m happy” like setting your couch on fire.

  • GPLDAN

    I do declare!

    http://tinyurl.com/n9mbf2k

    Or does he…

    • Trac

      What say the Michigan faithful? Should he?

      • GPLDAN

        OSU has three QBs – all of which could start for any other team in the Big 10 or SEC.

        Interesting problem to have.

    • Shady

      Yes, you go and don’t look back.

    • He DEFINITELY needs another year to prove he’s not a poorman’s Cam, but this year’s crop of QBs is so aweful, he could theoretically go high in the 2nd, which might tempt Pace.

      • BerwynBomber

        Agreed. Similar to Cam but nowhere near Cam’s athleticism (though Jones is arguably a better passer). Still, same slow delivery and I’m thinking his running ability will fall off significantly as a pro (unlike Cam).

        I’m high on Bryce Petty. If he’s around in the third round, I would take him (if I was QB-starved like the Bears).

      • Johnnywad

        It would be hard to blame somebody taking a flyer on 6′-5″ 250 with a cannon. Didn’t let big moments get the best of him either. Given he has a child now, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to see him enter the draft.

    • That being said, it’ll prolly come down to what the “draft board” asses where he’ll go in the draft if he does declare.

  • Johnnywad

    41m41 minutes ago – A source with ties to the Bears front office is reporting that I’ll be the Bears next head coach.

    • BearDown100393

      Congrats. Now go demand to get rid of #6. Thanks.

      • Scharfinator

        Put me in. Since the blog is taking over the organization.

    • AlbertInTucson

      BREAKING NEWS: A source close to me tells me I WON’T be the next Bears head coach. Details at 10.

      • Johnnywad

        Your source told my source you were to be my DC. So that meshes nicely.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Source close to MY source has a source who has a friend who has a cousin wo has a source who says I’m not.

          • GPLDAN

            Al would scratch Burma Shaves on the whiteboard at halftime.

            That would fire them up.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Sorry you didn’t get the job man, I was pulling for you.

  • John Doe

    MarkMaske @MarkMaske 路 8m8 minutes ago
    John Fox scheduled to interview Wednesday with Bears, two days after his parting with Broncos… http://on.fb.me/14xIhpB

    • Shady

      It’s sounding more and more like this is goin to happen. I felt the same way about Chris Ballard though, so who knows.

  • The New York Jets are hiring Todd Bowles. (via Ian Rapoport) (via interwebs)

    • NewBearInTown

      So basically a kinder, gentler version of Rex Ryan?

      • haha I don’t even think Rex was mean. To me, he was just boisterous, like that dude at the frat party who does upsided down keggers.

        Schwartz seems like a bigger a-hole, or that Ocord for the Steelers, etc

    • John Doe

      Chan Gailey will be OC. Not impressed with Bowles OC guy. Good that Bears passed on him.

      Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 路 22m22 minutes ago

      Look for Chan Gailey to be the new OC for newly hired #Jets coach Todd Bowles, which is an intriguing choice.

  • John Doe

    Dominoes begin to fall. Falcons miss out on another candidate. Look to hire Teryl Austin tomorrow.

    vaughn mcclure4m

    Source tells me talks with Falcons and Lions DC Teryl Austin now likely to take place tomorrow rather than waiting until Thursday.

    vaughn mcclure3m

    Austin back at home in Arizona now following interview with the Bears. He’s scheduled to fly to Atlanta tomorrow.

    The Falcoholic23m

    Per our friend @BrianCat13, Paul Soliai’s agent got a text on his podcast saying Austin would be Falcons’ next head coach.

    • Good. That leaves two big fish for us, Fox and Quinn!

      • John Doe

        Broncos plan to interview Quinn after NFCC.

    • willbest

      Its a numbers game. Right now 5 teams are looking for HC there aren’t a lot of options.

  • NewBearInTown

    So is Doug Marrone going to be the odd man out? Walks away from a head coaching position and doesn’t seem to even be getting serious interest? Looks like Gary Kubiak to Denver, Fox to Chicago, Bowles to NYJ and Atlanta apparently not interested. That pretty much leaves San Francisco and I’m not hearing a lot about the Niners pursuing him at this point.
    I know he’s got money in hand to take the season off. But that’s got to sting right?

    • willbest

      Marrone interviewed with Pace, and apparently they worked together in New Orleans.

      • BillW

        I hope that was nothing more than doing his buddy a favor and making him look like a sought after candidate.

        I seriously wonder if Marrone screwed himself

        • CanadaBear

          If quitting your job and they still have to pay you $4 mil is getting screwed.

          • BillW

            If he is never a HC again because of the perception of how he treated the Bills, he cost himself money in the long term

          • CanadaBear

            For $4 mil I could live with it.

          • BillW

            I’d say “no mas” for half that.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            He can always go back to college, if he was able to win at Syracuse, he can win just about anywhere.

  • GPLDAN

    I think Dan Durkin blocked Jefe because – and this is speculation on my part – he is a bad reporter full of shit. It’s the 14th today, and on the 11th he put out a story saying that the Bears were making a big push for Kubiak. That didn’t take long to be proved wrong. If you believe Greenberg, Kubiak ended the call with Pace once he heard that Cutler was staying – but that doesn’t constitute a major push.

    There is a LOT of bad reporting going on out there. A lot of 2nd and 3rd tier MSM guys are just stringers for Halas Hall. It’s those guys who see Jeff and the blogosphere as threats to their existence most of all. How much longer does CBS need a guy like Durkin when everything is being retweeted by Jeff from the sources? Answer: they don’t.

    So, if I had to guess, I would speculate this is why a lot of the beat reporters driven by fear block Jeff.

    I have more respect for a younger reporter like Jahns who is savvy enough to know that cooperating with the blogosphere is a much better long term move than pissing on them.

    • BillW

      Bad reporting indeed. Ballard as gm, major push for kubiak, marrinelli to tampa, quinn to the jets. It’s been horrible lately. Don’t ever remember it being this bad.

      I know there is a race to be first and being wrong seems to carry no stigma.But why so many wrong reports? Are people over relying on their sources? Are the sources suddenly full of crap? Are people too quick to jump to conclusions?

      In part I blame myself and others like me that are impatient and want to know something now that’s probably unknowable

      • SC Dave

        Probably just making shit up for impatient people like you. 馃檪

        • BillW

          No doubt. Age does make one impatient. I stand in front of the microwave oven yelling “hurry up”.

    • He blocked Jeff because Jeff attacked him on Twitter.

      I have a lot of respect for Jeff, but I also have a lot of respect for Dan. I have no clue about this whole “buying followers” thing, that must have happened before I was on Twitter (only been about 2 years, so not hard). But Dan provides excellent Bears analysis and is one of the go-to guys for Chicago salary cap information. He’s relatively new as a full-time beat writer (I think this is his first full-time year doing it), but definitely does good work.

      • CanadaBear

        This isn’t aimed at you JW but why would any of us give a fuck if someone blocked Jeff on twitter? I like this site and I think Jeff does a good job but really couldn’t care less about his Twitter wars. What’s next? Someone didn’t like one of his posts on Facebook.

        • I don’t know. I was responding to the comment on here talking about it.

          • CanadaBear

            Good on ya for that.

        • AlbertInTucson

          The root of Twitter is, after all, “Twit.”

      • GPLDAN

        I have no idea Dan Durkin bought himself Twitter followers either. I just know that a lot of the MSM guys hate the interwebz and hate sports bloggerz.

        But often, they are scooped by them and there is usually some twitter headbanging like we see here.

        I think more progressive beat reporters (read: younger) know well enough to embrace the blogger communities and not hate on them.

        • I’ve never found Dan to hate the bloggers. In fact, I’ve really seen him help one out by teaching him how the salary cap works patiently last offseason.

    • “If you believe Greenberg, Kubiak ended the call with Pace once he heard Cutler was staying.”

      Greenberg never states that. He has zero evidence of anything like that, and said as much to me yesterday on Twitter. That article was pure speculation and nothing else. Durkin said the Bears WANTED to make a push for Kubiak. They were planning to, but Kubiak said he was staying put.

  • GPLDAN

    I feel badz for Old Sauce.

    I was torn between wanting Old Sauce to get to the show and having to watch the Great Pumpkin Christie bellow with his jello all over Jerry Jones any more. I think even Jones felt he paid his political debt for the port authority contract.

    But I think Rod deserves a ring. As sort of reparation for that 0-16 Lions season.

  • GPLDAN

    Did you boyz see the Elway presser where he thanked himself for a great season?

  • GPLDAN

    I wish I had a copy of the latest Charlie Ebdo edition. I would have framed it and hung it on my wall.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      They’re printing 3 million copies – I’m sure you could get your hands on one. I’ve thought about doing the same thing myself.

      • Bender McLugh

        sold out

    • BearDown100393

      Just a thought and I really sincerely do not wish to stir up political discourse (my apologies if so) but if this specific act of terrorist violence had happen here in the USA, would world unity have been displayed in public as such in France?

      • NewBearInTown

        Yes. Free speech is even more of a thing here.

        • BillW

          But not hate speech. The terrorist acts are unspeakable horror and obviously inexcusable. A point I cannot make strongly enough as I raise the next one –

          From what I’ve read (and only from what I’ve read) the cartoons they published there go beyond what we would tolerate in the US. Not for issues of free speech but for issues of racial tolerance. Again – from what I’ve read.

          In the US we have a blurry line between free speech and hate speech for good reason. I don’t know where I stand on this issue other than abhorring any type of violence, much less on this scale.

          But while free speech may be more of a thing here, it’s telling to me that most if not all publications in the US refuse to print the cartoons in question.

          It’s a complex issue made temporarily simple by the extremists. But France needs at some point to reflect on how they treat the Muslim community, in much the same way the US had to reflect on allowing racial segregation

          • BerwynBomber

            Spot on. If such cartoons/caricatures were produced here about blacks or jews there would be public outrage and an overwhelming movement to shut down said publisher.

            Can’t condone terrorism but I find the Charlie Hebdo love disturbing as well.

          • Irish Sweetness

            It was amazing to me that the very next issue after everything that had happened was to portray an image of the prophet. I understand that the ‘freedom of speech’ would almost demand it, but why ? Why did they need to do that? They’ve just caused the death of X number of people who will die in its name right there.

          • John Doe

            Why make fun of anyone’s god? It is blasphemy to create a cartoon of prophet mohammed. So why do it? You are offending good muslims by doing that and not just the terrorists.

            What a distorted view of freedom of speech.. If I cannot insult your god and your religion, I am not free.. what a crock.

            No freedom is absolute.

          • BillW

            Complex issue to be sure. I’m a “recovering Catholic” as someone said too (Canada? Irish?) There is a lot to make fun of on that religion. But I do believe Jesus Christ was God – and even if not ,certainly a very holy man. Yet I don’t think I’d get too up in arms over cartoons of him and Mary Magdaline getting it on or whatever – I’d say it was in bad taste but let it go at that;

            Yet the Muslim religion is VERY clear on the issue of it being inappropriate in their eyes to depict the prophet. So the only reason you’re doing it is to pull their chain as it were. And why – one could ask? To provoke this type of reaction to prove the point?

            As we get nearer to MLK day, one wonders what he’d have to say about all this. Maybe we need someone like him in the world today.

          • BerwynBomber

            The other issue here is that Muhammad, unlike Jesus Christ, is a stand-in for a race of people. So they are going beyond merely mocking someone’s god.

          • BillW

            It’s not on the same level as terrorists attacks, but the so-called race riots of the 60s, while abhorrent, were part of the force that led to serious conversations on racial equality. From what I’ve read lately – and I’m very near ignorant right now on this subject – it seems France needs examine themselves regarding their treatment of the Muslim community.

            That’s one I bet the phonies Jesse and Sharpton won’t touch!.

          • BerwynBomber

            Of course they won’t. Even though some of the cartoons are basically the equivalent of sambo images.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I was surprised that 4 million people stood together in France, and that they congregated at the Brandenburg gate in Berlin. All that was missing were the pitchforks and torches. Merkel said she would go after anyone for hate crimes or incitement to hatred. Really? Then disband your rabid villagers, Madam.

            They want to imply that Islam is a violent religion. Really? Parts of the Bible talk about stoning a woman to death if she wears cloth made from more than three types of thread. Killing people for working on the Sabbath? As long as people go taking ancient dogma seriously … then shit happens. Giving credence to the craziness of the past ends in rivers of blood – especially when its followers COMPLETELY MISS THE POINT OF RELIGION!

            Forgiveness. Love they neighbor as thy wouldst be loved thyself.

            The good shit.

          • GPLDAN

            How does Muhammad represent all Muslims in a way that Jesus does not represent a race?

          • Cormonster

            There are more “people of color’, or non-white, Christians than white Christians in the world. Also, there are more Asian and probably African Muslims that Arab Muslims. Don’t get what race your talking about.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Does anybody think that If they had done charicatures of Jesus or Buddha or The Dalai Lama that masked gunmen would have burst in to murder them for it?

          • Irish Sweetness

            I could never defend the Catholic church given their past transgressions and cover-ups. The Christians are the bloodiest bunch of murderers I can think of historically. All I know is that if Jesus was here today – of his detractors he would say ” Forgive them.”

            Jesus can take a joke, Mohammed can’t.

          • Peanut FTW

            They have a freedom to express their opinion. Just because it upsets some people does not justify an active response. If they find it to be blasphemous they could just not buy the paper, and tell their friends not to buy the paper. You know, like normal humans do.

          • John Doe

            I said nothing about the response much less violent response…don’t condone that at all.

            I am just questioning what is the compelling urge for a few to insult someone’s god and religion in a publication? What do they get out of that? Why is it so important for them to insult someone’s god? Where is their humanity, their morality?

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Religion is the the opium of the people” – Karl Marx

          • AlbertInTucson

            “I don’t care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members.” -Grouch Marx

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Getta you tootsie fruitsie ice cream” – Chico Marx

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Honk, Honk.” – Harpo Marx

          • BillW

            Ten years in Levenworth, eleven years in twelveworth, or 5 to 10 at Woolworth.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “I can see you in the kitchen, beding over a hot stove. But I can’t see the stove.”

          • AlbertInTucson

            Margaret Dumont: “I’ve never been so insulted in all my life.”
            Groucho: “Well, it’s early yet.”

          • CanadaBear

            I think my fave line from Groucho about Margaret Dumont comes from Duck Soup when he says they’re fighting for her honor. Which in more than she ever did.

          • BillW

            “I’ve had a wonderful evening. But this wasn’t it.”

          • CanadaBear

            If you can come up with quotes for Zeppo and Gummo my hat’s off to you Al. I watched “A Day at the Races” and ‘Night at the Opera” over the new year. I forgot how funny Races could be. My faves were Duck Soup, Cocanuts, Animal Crackers, Monkey Business and Horse Feathers

          • BillW

            You guys have me looking on Amazon for a collection of all those films. Strange that I can’t find them all in one set – probably due to ownership rights.

            But I’m building a Marx Brothers Wish list on Amazon. Got to have it and then pass it down to my kids eventually

          • CanadaBear

            Yeah they bounced around studios for sure. Most people can’t handle the “entertainment” part of the movies. The singing/dancing hooey. I like Harpo’s playing a lot and when Groucho breaks out the guitar and sings it’s usually good. Lydia the Tattooed Lady is awesome. Chico was fun to see play piano once but after that, not so much. The song and dance #’s are snooze material. But once Groucho starts a conversation with Margaret Dumont you know it’s going to be hilarious. Love those movies I listed.

            My all-time fave is W.C. Fields. Unfortunately most people won’t even watch a B/W movie these days.

          • BillW

            Those movies (Marx, WC) used to be on channel 9 late night a lot. While I liked WC Fields, I still can laugh out loud at the Marx Brothers and you can tell how much they influenced comedy.

          • BillW

            “I’ve had a wonderful evening. But this wasn’t it.” That’s Airplane’s humor decades earlier.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Cos the guys that wrote scripts like ‘Airplane’ were raised on the old vaudeville stuff. I see modern ‘comedies’ and I rarely even crack a smile – they’re being written by kids who aren’t funny. They grew up watching terrible comedies from post ‘Blazing Saddles’, and they just churn out the same shit.

          • CanadaBear

            I rarely see W.C. on TV these days. He’s not as quotable because his movies are so insane and people always thought he was a nasty drunk. He was a drunk for sure but by all accounts a nice guy. His give and take with Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy are tremendously entertaining.

          • huntinbare

            C-a-r-l L-a-F-o-n-g

          • CanadaBear

            Capital C, small a …

          • huntinbare

            Gets me every time

          • huntinbare

            The dental chair bit he used to do on Vaudeville kills me

          • CanadaBear

            When the woman wraps her legs around him and puts her feet in his coat pocket, I laugh every time. The dentist, the golf expert and the pool expert are all really funny bits that require a lot of coordination for sure.

            My favorite movies of his are International House, You’re Telling Me, The Old Fashioned Way (love the juggling scene), It’s a Gift, Man on the Flying Trapeze, You Can’t Cheat an Honest Man, The Bank Dick and My Little Chickadee,

          • huntinbare

            Great list…I could not get enough of him ….he remains a constant companion through life…

          • AlbertInTucson

            Man: “Mind if I smoke?
            WC Fields: “I don’t care if you BURN.”

          • huntinbare

            A riot

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Never Give A Sucker An Even Break.”

          • CanadaBear

            I like that but all the Gloria Jean stuff is really tiresome.

          • BillW

            Shocked to learn she is still alive. 88 and living in Buffalo. Wonder what she thinks of the Rex Ryan hire?

          • CanadaBear

            I was shocked too. Although she was pretty young in Sucker (around 15).

          • AlbertInTucson

            Field wrote a lot of his own scripts. Legend has it that as star , he had script approval and would reject his own material so they had to pay him to write more.

          • BillW

            Never heard that one. Hysterical!

          • BillW

            All your mentioned movies and more can be had on two boxed sets; There are complaints galore though on the horrible transfer job Universal did on the most beloved film s(Duck Soup, etc) but the original prints disintegrated long ago. Still with today’s tech commenters said they can do a better job. Oh well – they are relatively cheap (15 each set) so I won’t complain.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Their massacre of that Opera is still classic.

          • Cormonster

            WC Fields is great.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I’ve seen them a Wal-Mart but not ALL in one set. Probably because they did the first few at Paramount and then later moved to MGM. try Ebay.

          • BillW

            http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BOM98PG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=KFS45BT39C0M&coliid=I2D61AFIZXQ5KY

            http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001HAIP4/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=KFS45BT39C0M&coliid=I1BLH1IQ6I2K1C

            Two sets gets most if not all of them, though the transfers are not great from the comments I read.

            Also the ones in the first set are in a collection – like format indivdually though with the same transfer issues apparently. Such as Duck Soup:

            http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004P9UWM8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=KFS45BT39C0M&coliid=I1ZARDX8X73RGK

          • Irish Sweetness

            (Coughing)
            TORRENTS!
            (Clears throat)
            Ahem ….

            I think WC has passed on, so handing one’s cash over to Megacorp isn’t such a moral responsibility for artists long gone. It’s basically public domain now, like old books.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Some of thouse Paramounts are barely out of the silent era. Cocoanuts is like, 1930.
            Note the scene with maps. The paper is all wet to keep it from making to much noise for the early sound equipment..

          • AlbertInTucson

            Zeppo became their manager after they moved from Paramount to MGM. He’s not in “…OPERA”, or “…RACES”.

            In researching him, they said, being the youngest, he could mimmick any of his brothers to a T and often DID fill in on stage when one was too ill to perform.

            Groucho is quoted as saying “”He was so good as Captain Spaulding [in Animal Crackers] that I would have let him play the part indefinitely, if they had allowed me to smoke in the audience,”

          • AlbertInTucson

            Well, I DID make up the one for Zeppo although she DID dump him for Old Blue Eyes.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “My 2nd wife dumped me for Frank Sinatra. Go figure.” – Zeppo Marx

          • BillW

            Bill Maher has gotten a lot of flack for things he’s said (“Millions of Muslims are secretly glad this happened”); but one thing he said that made me pause to think:
            he said something like when people say I’m disrespecting one of the great religions, I say there ARE no great religions. They are all garbage (or full of crap or something like that)

            There is truth to that. Not to go all John Lennon here, but in the 21st century do we need religion? We can have morality without it – and maybe even more so.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Millions of Muslims are OPENLY glad, too.

          • huntinbare

            What did Marx know about opium; was he a user? For that matter, what did he know about religion; did he belong to an organized opium den?

          • CanadaBear

            I’ve done opium and it beats the shit out of religion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • huntinbare

            Gotta love that line….
            Bless me father for I have sinned…
            It’s been……days since my last confession….

          • AlbertInTucson

            “,,,and lead us not unto temptation, for we know the way ourselves.”

          • huntinbare

            Good one…

          • SC Dave

            The “hate speech” concept is a slippery slope best avoided. Freedom of speech was explicitly about protecting unpopular opinion.

          • BillW

            I agree it’s a slippery slope. That’s why I said I really don’t know where I stand on the issue. Yelling fire in a crowded theater is not protected speech. How far to we extend that concept?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            And you’d think we’d never agree on anything.

          • Irish Sweetness

            The USA is probably as censored as the Russian media, they just don’t know it. A friend of my best friend works for an intelligence agency in a ‘very big’ European country. All printed and televisual media are censored – entire topics are deleted from existence. The most interesting stuff. You will never read about population growth, you will never read about the Rothschilds, and you will never read anything other than dis-information about ‘little green men’. The military boo-booed on a Roswell press release. and it will never happen again.

        • Irish Sweetness

          If 4 million people tried to congregate together in the USA the water cannons would be out. All remaining freedoms disappeared with those executive orders, Patriot Act, Homeland etc. You don’t fuck with the French though. If what happened to Al Gore in the Presidential elections happened in France there would have been a revolution the next day.

      • Big Mike

        I believe the reaction would have been different, but equally loud. Not because of the number of deaths, but because of the attack on a free press. Mass murders are unfortunately much more common in the US, than in Europe. The geographic proximity of nations in Europe, is a phenomena that most Americans really can’t grasp. From Paris you can be in Germany, The Netherlands, Luxemborg, or the UK, in less time than it takes to drive from Soldier Field to St. Louis.

      • Scharfinator

        Probably not. Boko Haram committed their biggest bit of genocide yet, but we’re talking about France.

        Not to diminish the importance of free speech and what all that in France means, but murdering children seems worse.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Surely yes. it’s not about genocides, free speech or age…it’s about the race.

          These motherfuckers kill hundreds of people every day, all kinds of people, for years…but when you kill 12 white men, the white population is going to talk about it and display unity.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        yes. But then US would likely fucked that up somehow.

    • huntinbare

      They are printing more…maybe one will find its way to you

    • SC Dave

      I thought about that yesterday; kudos to them for not knuckling under to savages.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    At this point I think Fox is the best candidate for HC. I think he would fit in well. He’s got the sideline “fire” but it’s not over the top and He’s got great experience.

    http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2015/01/13/john-fox-leaving-wednesday-chicago-interview-bears-head-coach-position/32117/

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-john-fox-coach-search-bears-spt-0114-20150113-story.html

    • BillW

      I expect an announcement later today. He’s not in here to interview – he’s here to get the contract done. Just like Pace was. Ernie earned his money. Did the real work while everyone was focused on sweaty Teddy.

      • Bears-4-Ever

        You sound almost too sure BillW. You got a source we should all know about? 馃檪

  • Trac

    Welcome to Chicago Mr. Fox. Your’e welcome to stay for at least 3 years.

    • huntinbare

      I hope it doesn’t take 3 years to run him out if his record is worse than 5-10

  • huntinbare

    I am not sold on Fox because I can’t convince myself that he will be the best at taking young talent and developing it; and that is the one characteristic that I sense our new HC should excell at. If we are going to use Pace’s ability to draft talent, then the club needs to have a team of assistants that can develop raw talent into great players. I have seen Fox is just o.k. with teams without proven stars; and great at winning with stars. Does this mean he is just average when it comes to working with young athletes?
    Maybe Quinn is the man that will be better at this; and yet it is hard to make an exact calculation on this aspect of a coaches ability.
    I felt Toub would have a good sense for player development; having to turn raw youngsters into a functioning unit offensively and defensively. But, I see he is not getting any play so I wonder just what does it take to break through the barriers that have kept him down.

    • BillW

      By your comments I too would have preferred Toub. But as you say, he’s not part of the pool

    • John Doe

      Fox did a good job of developing players. Read the article below.

      I continue to be puzzled with this Toub fascination based on absolutely nothing. 7 teams had HC vacancies and none of them have bothered to even interview this “diamond in the rough” Dave Toub.

      Here is the key portion from the article on the good Fox did in Denver developing players:

      Fox, along with defensive coordinator Jack Del Rio, exhibited an ability to mold draftees into useful contributors for the Denver defense. High draft picks like Von Miller, Derek Wolfe, and Rahim Moore delivered on their potential and quickly became impact contributors. Danny Trevathan was a sixth-round pick in 2012 who developed into one of the league鈥檚 better linebackers last season. Nate Irving filled in as a starting linebacker and impressed this season before going down with a knee injury. Bradley Roby had a disappointing game Sunday, but he looked promising during his freshman campaign, which isn鈥檛 often the case for even the best rookie cornerbacks.

      Even more impressive was how successful Denver was in the bargain bin. Chris Harris went from being an undrafted free agent to making the Pro Bowl this season. Buy-low veterans like Shaun Phillips and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie revitalized their careers and looked like their former selves under Fox. And while Del Rio probably deserves a good chunk of the credit for bringing in former Jaguars assets like Terrance Knighton and Brandon Marshall and getting the most out of them, they鈥檙e each playing far better in Denver than they were while Del Rio was in Jacksonville. Fox deserves some of the credit for that development process.

      http://grantland.com/the-triangle/john-fox-denver-broncos/

      • huntinbare

        Thanks JD makes me feel a bit more hopeful about the Fox.
        I love the energy Seattle brings to the competition. If Quinn can bring that with him I want some of “that”.

        • CanadaBear

          Fox is the safe hire. After all the dysfunction last year and the inmates running the asylum, he’s a compelling choice. You know the team would be professional and prepared. I was hoping for someone that would energize the franchise. You need a younger hire for that. I’d love to see that but I have no idea which one of these younger candidates has the goods. If they hire Fox I won’t bitch because I know it will be a major step up from Nessman.

          • to make a baseball analogy, Fox is a nice solid double. They’re choosing that over swinging for the fences but risking a strikeout (like Trestman).

          • CanadaBear

            Good call. After PE swinging for the fences all the time, it would be nice to see someone with some plate discipline.

          • willbest

            Would be nicer to win a Super Bowl than to live in football purgatory for half a. Decade

          • BillW

            Without thinking it through, there are probably at least 25 other teams thinking the same. Can’t happen for everyone. While it’s frustrating to get there regularly only to lose (Denver with Fox), it’s foolish to hit reset without realizing how difficult it is to be in that position in tyhe first place.

          • CanadaBear

            No doubt. Doesn’t mean Fox couldn’t win it all with a good roster.

          • willbest

            Fox is the guy that is going to break your heart punting on 4th & 1 from mid field up 3 points with 4.5 minutes left in the game only to lose it by 4 points because his offense has to go 80 yard in 57 seconds and 1 timeout.

            That is my problem with Fox.

          • CanadaBear

            That’s why I’ve said numerous times he’s a slightly smarter version of Lovie.

          • huntinbare

            Dave Nicholson…SwishKing

          • AlbertInTucson

            His K’s for one season looks like chump change today.

          • huntinbare

            Would get him $800,000.00 per

          • Big Mike

            Fox is more than a double. He’s been close, but no cigar, he knows he has one more chance to get that SB win. History has shown, that no Head Coach has ever taken 2 different teams to SB. He will bring in the best team of coordinators of anybody out there. If he is a double, he’s a two run scoring walk off double.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            No HC has ever Won the SB with 2 different teams but 6 have taken 2 different teams to the SB; Fox is 1 of them. Name the other 5 off the top of your head. I got 3 without peeking.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Shula’s Colts got beaten by the Jets?

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            That was one of them, the others are Holmgren, Dan Reeves, Dick Vermeil and Parcells and of all these coaches only Fox and Reeves haven’t won at least one.

          • I’m willing to say right now Fox will not win a title in Chicago. His times coming close without Manning have come when the NFC was really bad. With GB and SEA entrenched with top-tier QBs, the NFC won’t ever have that in the next 5 years, IMO. Therefore, it’s a double in my book.

          • Big Mike

            I say BAH to you Jonathan Wood. Drink some kool aid. Because if you’re right, I’m going to have to pretend the Bears are the Cubs and my SB dreams have to go into hibernation, because there isn’t a better coach available right now, than Fox.

            All the other guys need directions to the office with the big whistle.

          • what kind of solid double?
            a) line drive to the gap
            b) grounder up the base line
            c) fly ball off the base of the wall

          • huntinbare

            At his age it was a sharp liner down the right field line that was a triple for him in his 40’s but he pulled up at second when the right fielder backhanded the ball in the corner.

          • Irish Sweetness

            HEEELP !!
            I-formation, quick toss left !! MOM-EEEEEEE !!!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Oh lordy momma they’s talkin’ baseball … there’s no place like home … there’s no place like home ….

      • Big Mike

        This ^

        I’m impressed with how he’s adapted to what his GM provided / threw at him.

  • AlbertInTucson

    2014 predictions, a look back…

    Blogfather pre-season predictions, 2014:

    . “AFC Playoff Teams: Denver, New England, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Miami. (San Diego is the team I just can鈥檛 figure out at this stage. Just a basic lack of information but wouldn鈥檛 be surprised to see them make a serious playoff run this year.)”

    Comment: SOOO close! 5 out of 6 AND San Diego DID make a serious run before crashing & burning in KC on the last day of the season.

    ” NFC Playoff Teams: Philadelphia, San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago, New Orleans, Green Bay. (Atlanta is the team worth watching over the first six games or so. The organization was happy to write off last year鈥檚 futility to injury but it would be interesting to see how they handle some early adversity. Either way I rate them as second best in that division and a playoff contender.)”

    Comment: 2 out of 6. Well, who could have forseen SO MANY NFC underachievers.

    BillW prediction, January 13, 2014:

    “My take on the Mel Tucker retention:
    I stand by my comment made a few weeks ago – we will be calling for Trestman to be gone this time next year.

    This was a bad decision in my mind – akin to some of his other head scratching in-game decisions during the year.”

    Comment: Nostradamus would be proud. Loses a tenth of a point because the clamor for Trestman to be gone started in December.

    • GPLDAN

      I get no love for calling Phil Emery a clown for the last two years.

      • BillW

        And I take no pride in being right about Tresty. Just glad they got rid of him.

        • AlbertInTucson

          A good call, nonetheless.

      • that’s because he’s not a clown. he’s a beast.

      • Big Mike

        without going over the pros and cons again, if you take out his decision to hire Trestman (which I know is cheating) Emery wasn’t a clown. He was average. My opinion is Trestman is the guy who buried this team and set it back, more so than Emery, by a lot.

        I do recognize your foresight in wanting to clean house, ahead of most if not all on the blog.

      • Irish Sweetness

        you get implied love, GP. The love you get is implied.

  • GPLDAN

    Let’s play Match Game.

    John Fox, on his first day as HC, to Shae McClellin:

    “Son, I really think you should BLANK”

    Apologies to the descendants of Gene Rayburn:

    http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2842/2540/320/GeneRayburn2.jpg

    • BillW

      One word?

      Sit

    • huntinbare

      Improve

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Rent.

    • CanadaBear

      Leave

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      change positions again.

    • BearDown100393

      Retire

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      run out to Taco Bell and pick me up a Steak Quesarito with Fire sauce or I’m cuttin’ your ass.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        You can fit that on one of those blue cards right?

        • GPLDAN

          Absolutely. Charles Nelson Reilley did.

    • Big Mike

      Play Special Teams.

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Seek employment elsewhere” ?

  • huntinbare

    Seems like the hunt is over and most of the Chicago media is expecting Fox to be inking the papers this afternoon.
    I just caught “Spice”Adams give his take on Quinn, who he played for after he was drafted.
    He loved the guys passion and said he would wear cleats to practice and run with you to the ball screaming encouragement. He said at that point he was a “minnie Marinelli” . He brought his passionate energy to his players; and was always staying on you about even the smallest technique: even checking with your daily routine throughout the offseason. Loved playing for him; and knew back then from his meetings that he was so organized he would be a great HC someday.

    • John Doe

      Trestman used to run with with players in practice as well.. he used to run routes with WRs and run with LBs and DBs. Trestman was very energetic in practices. Didn’t mean a squat.

      Quinn is not even a HC today and Adams is already saying he would be ‘great. HC someday.

      Succecceding under Pete Carroll and what their GM has put together is one thing. No guarantee Quinn will be able to do that on his own.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Hasn’t been all sunshine and roses for Gus Bradley.

      • huntinbare

        He has his opinion like everybody; and he got closer to him than a sportscaster, so I am guessing he may be a bit more qualified. The thing that intrigues me about what he said was the “freaky ” attention to the smallest detail.
        This tells me not much gets by his field of awareness. So I wonder, how much has he picked up from Carroll; and could he bring some of that with him as he moves into his next progression.
        Nothing is guaranteed though.

      • Big Mike

        maybe that’s what made him say “we had a good practice”?

      • Irish Sweetness

        This is my worry with Bowles/Quinn, no guarantee the top job is for them. Different kettle of fish altogether

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    No HC has ever Won the SB with 2 different teams but 6 have taken 2 different teams to the SB; Fox is 1 of them. Name the other 5 off the top of your head. I got 3 without peeking.

    • GPLDAN

      Dick Vermeil
      uh…. that’s all I got… no…wait… Chucky

      • BillW

        Shula

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          He’s one I didn’t get.

          • BillW

            Tougher than i thought; of course some probably didnt win with either team

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        That’s one of the 3 I got.

    • John Doe

      gruden?

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        No

    • Big Mike

      without peaking, Fox, Shula, Vermeil and Parcells

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Dan Reeves and Mike Holmgren are the 2 you didn’t get.

        • Big Mike

          Dan Reeves Atl/Denver? Who did Holmgren go with?

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Correct on Reeves. For Holmgren, they the two participants in this years NFC Championship Game.

  • John Doe

    Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 路 1h1 hour ago
    It’s not like I’m “breaking” much here but I will say that I have been told John Fox will indeed be the next HC of the #Bears

    • Trac

      I broke that yesterday! Smh

      • Scharfinator

        You need more followers on your tweeter though!

    • that was before the interview was over. Maybe before it even started. No way that was already confirmed.

  • BearDown100393

    Jets hire Todd Bowles.

  • John Doe

    Kevin Fishbain3m
    As Delhomme mentioned on @ESPN1000, John Fox was honest w/ him in ’09. Delhomme signed 5-yr, $42M deal, had a 59.4 rating, cut in March ’10.

  • GPLDAN
    • BearDown100393

      Mrs. Pic6 is right about her self-reference as being “a freak”.

    • Cormonster

      Famous for pretending to be real on TV.

    • Irish Sweetness

      GAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!

      They look like Bonnie and Clyde after stealing about 24 million dollareenies.

  • John Doe

    Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 路 24m24 minutes ago
    Oakland Raiders now have hired HC Jack Del Rio, as @mortreport reported they would.

    • Big Mike

      Thought Denver was going to hire him. How about that.

  • willbest

    If the Bears hire Fox, I am always going to wonder who Pace really thought was the coach of the future in Chicago.

    • John Doe

      This was Ernie Accorsi running the show from hiring Pace (and fooling/feeding the media with all the Ballard+Toub crap) to working out the deal with John Fox before Broncos got knocked out in the playoff.

      Accorsi had this thing planned well in advance.

      Pace will get his chance to hire his own coach down the line. He has many things to learn in between. He got some good practice interviewing HC candidates with Bowles, Austin, and Marrone.

      • willbest

        You write good fiction.

        • John Doe

          That is my conjecture as to what happened when I look at the events from Black Monday onwards.

          And I am not the only one. Dan Bernstein hinted at the same thing.

          http://sportsmockery.com/2015/01/rumor-secret-plan-bring-john-fox-chicago/

          • willbest

            Sure but what you proposed is breach of contract, tortious interference with a contract, and a whole host of bad juju

          • Scharfinator

            Tortious? Sure.

            Does it happen? ALL THE TIME? Yes.

          • Johnnywad

            Blog’s gettin all lawyery

          • John Doe

            and that is what Denver Post reporter is also hinting at.. possible tampering..

            Even Elway said in the press conference yesterday that Fox was looking at his options on Sunday itself after the loss to Colts when he was still under contract. Tampering..

          • Big Mike

            Hinting at is the most you can say about it. What they actually said is the possibility exists that this could have maybe under certain circumstances have been the case.

      • BillW

        I happen to agree and said basically the same earlier today

  • John Doe

    Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 路 14m14 minutes ago
    49ers set to promote DL coach Jim Tomsula to head coach, per sources. Still ironing out details, but Tomsula expected to be 49ers next HC.

    • Big Mike

      talk about a downgrade..

      • willbest

        Remember the fan and the owner look at the team from two completely different angles.

        • Big Mike

          Of course, but it’s a downgrade. Ownership gets it way with a pliable first time head coach, who is not a celebrity on his own.

      • SC Dave

        A little early to tell. Given the 9ers performance this season, I’m thinking Harbaugh may not be all that.

        • Big Mike

          Hard to say what happened, but I’m more inclined to look at his track record everywhere else he’s been. Had it not been for the conflict with the GM/Owner combined with his marketability, he’d have turned it around there.

  • willbest

    If Elway can’t get Kubiak to go back on his OC commitment, lord knows what they are going to do.

  • Scharfinator
  • John Doe

    Bears play AFC West in 2015. They might face Trestman offense against Raiders.

    Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 路 1h1 hour ago

    Jack Del Rio has recruited Marc Trestman for a long period of time to be his OC. But Trestman is in Cleveland today. Does it he make it out?

    • huntinbare

      Don’t forget to send in the “practice mole” to shoot their practice films to see how good they can be when game planning for them.

      • SC Dave

        That would be the Patriots.

        • huntinbare

          Now you know how we defeated the Brits

  • John Doe

    Damn. Trestman seems to be in demand..

    Tim Kawakami @timkawakami 路 7m7 minutes ago

    NFL source: Jason Tarver in line to join the 49ers as defensive coordinator; Marc Trestman a possibility as offensive coordinator.

    • Big Mike

      Look at the availability of offensive coordinators.. the good ones want to be head coaches. The best ones that might move are attached to potential head coaches (fox/shanahan is a GREAT option). Trestman is the only guy on the market who has been a Head Coach and an OC. Sure he sucked as a HC, but that experience will make him a better OC.

      On the opposite side of the ball, look at Marinelli. 0-16 as HC, but he’s a helluva DC.

      • SC Dave

        It would seem that sometimes paying attention to the Peter Principal concept is warranted.

        • Big Mike

          Sometimes that is so apparent with coaches, than you have the small handful of guys who are actually better higher up the food chain.

  • John Doe

    Would much prefer Fangio as DC than Dennis Allen..

    Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 路 24m24 minutes ago

    Fangio is expected to leave the Niners RT @pepinomarino: @RapSheet fangio is a great coach! Why is he overlooked? #dude!

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I’d love Fangio as a HC. Him and McDaniels are my favorites.

  • Viva

    Dave Toub for HC.

    I like Fox, but he is not elite. Data is right, he’s a double down the line.

    I’d rather go yard.

  • AlbertInTucson

    I didn’t hear/see Dave Toub mentioned as a candidate anywhere. Wonder what the stink is there?

    • SC Dave

      Lack of qualifications, perhaps?

      • huntinbare

        Qulifications….He don’t need no stinking qualifications with me….I saw enough to know that he can make the average look great and the stars shine…

    • NewBearInTown

      Toub is a special teams coordinator, so its hard to get noticed. That’s one of the reasons he’s working with Andy Reid, Reid is letting him work with the offense a bit.
      Also, the Chiefs aren’t exactly lighting it up. They’re a good team, but not making the kind of headlines that get a coordinator noticed for HC positions.

    • huntinbare

      Maybe he is too much his own man and has not been seen as a “team” player when it comes to “the puppeteer” .

    • Trac

      STC’s normally only get HC opportunities when they are promoted from within a system where they inherit a talented coaching staff that are already in place. It’s too high risk to hire a STC as a HC from outside of your organization. I would never do it if I were a GM.

  • huntinbare

    When the hunt is done and Fox is in the henhouse I am not going to get all giddy and think that this will turn on a dime; or even a manhole cover. Maybe .500 is realistic with closer margins of defeat.
    Unless he brings his bag of magic dust and performs a miracle for us.

  • SC Dave
    • Irish Sweetness

      Blue book was the establishment’s ‘response’ to the UFO phenomena. It’s all the dis-information crap bundled together and not worth paying any attention to e.g. if it was a bullshit story it went in, anything ‘real’ was kept out of it. Hogwash. A bit like anything you hear on the news about quantitative easing.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Sigh…..Jeff’s tweets are exactly becoming what the downside of what Twitter has become….mostly either pointless or has a weird emotional/personal ring to it that is not representative of the handlename that it encompasses. His last one is pointless bc who cares? If Fox stays in Chicago to go on a tour or visit family, so what? Seriously, that last tweet needs to be under “@Jeffisbored” handle because it contributes nothing to actual Bears news and good information that I use this blog for especially when I know that he is much better than this weird spouting of thoughts.

    • most of his tweets are responding to people talking to him (or on Twitter in general) about something. In this instance, people were freaking out about the fact he flew back to Denver after the interview.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Let me just say that I don’t think it matters one bit who our coach is in 2015. We play the NFC/AFC West next year along with our division. Next year has 4-12 written all over it. The brightside? Bears vs. Bucs (hopefully they don’t screw me again by moving it to London).

    • burntorangenavyblue

      London games need to just be put down once and for all. What is the breakdown of the individual teams benefit or payout to participate in this? Would that information even be allowed to be scrutinized?

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