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Audibles From the Long Snapper: Stats, Love Affair Between Cutler/Gase & Around the League We Go!

| October 13th, 2015

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WANT SOME STATS?

  • Offense is currently ranked 27th in the league (yardage) and 28th in the league (points). If you remove the Seattle game, they go to 14th (yardage) and 20th (points). They get even better if you remove the James Clausen bits of the Cardinals game but I think you get the point. The offense has been solid when Jay Cutler has played quarterback.
  • Bears have the third best pass defense in the NFL through five weeks. With the players in their secondary, just sit back and applaud this coaching staff.
  • Bears have the league’s leading rusher. They are 15th in total rushing yards. When is the last time that happened?

TEN THOUGHTS FROM AROUND THE LEAGUE

  • Nick Foles is horrible. When Aaron Rodgers is turning the ball over to your defense at Lambeau Field, you can’t respond by giving the ball right back. Fisher has a team that can contend. He has a quarterback that cannot.
  • Seahawks were terrible against the Bears, should have been beaten by Detroit and blew a big lead to Cincinnati. Been saying for weeks this Seattle team isn’t any good.
  • I’m not sure the league will be in rush to give Marc Trestman another job. #OrganizationalPoison
  • Sean Payton to Miami rumors have begun. You know why? Because Sean Payton’s agent is leaking those rumors to anyone with the ability to text.
  • Detroit just manages to be so Lionsy all the time. No team with Super Bowl aspirations goes so predictably winless.  (Will have more on Jim Caldwell in Friday’s game preview.)
  • Never thought I’d say this but Peyton Manning’s offense is unwatchable.
  • Pats are just rolling through the NFL with ease. Next meaningful game they play will be at Foxboro in the AFC title game.
  • Oh wow, Brandon Weeden sucks? How would anyone have known that?
  • Stockpiling crappy Tom Brady backups is not an offensive philosophy, Bill O’Brien.
  • Guess Bradley / Bortles isn’t going to light the league on fire.

THINK JAY HAS FOUND HIS OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR?

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GRASU PER JAHNS

I’ll be looking at every one of Grasu’s snaps on the coaches tape in the next 24 hours.

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  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    first to have nothing to add at this time

  • The Yes Guy

    YES

    • The GP

      morning wood?

      • Viva

        or a tootsie roll in your pocket?

      • Morning!

        • MB30SD

          Hahaha

        • Viva

          Yes!

          • MB30SD

            stop that

          • The Yes Guy

            Yes?

          • MB30SD

            No.

            …do you have a brother that’s the no guy? Can he post once in a while?

  • Big Mike

    RE: Nick Foles Still think we should have dumped Cutler? Nick Foles is probably better than anyone we could have picked up.

    • which is why I only laugh when people say the Bears wouldn’t be able to trade Cutler for any value, or would have to give up a pick to get rid of him.

      • Big Mike

        Part of the herd mentality caused by national media and a vicious local press chasing popular sentiment, rather than looking at facts.

        • MB30SD

          Shocking.

          Bunch of jackals.

          Which btw is unfounded. Jackals are actually beautiful smart loving little creatures.

          • Big Mike

            So you are saying that comparing the Chicago sports media to Jackals, is actually an insult to the Jackals?

          • MB30SD

            Exactly!

      • BerwynBomber

        Well, they presumably couldn’t last off-season. We will have to see how the rest of this season shakes out.

        • They couldn’t for value. They weren’t fire-saling him like they did Marshall.
          And his value was lower than it should have been because of Trestman and Kromer’s scapegoating of their many issues on Cutler.

    • willbest

      I have it on good authority that Mark Sanchez and Jay Cutler are the same QB and that we should have Sanchez play and spend that extra 10 million on a FA defensive stud.

      • Big Mike

        I have to think about that. I think Sanchez has been in better situations. no? What stands out that has you make the comparison?

        • willbest

          It was a popular argument being made on this blog last spring. I was being sarcastic.

          • Big Mike

            I should have know. Some of the similarities could have included being on bad teams, not having a good o-line. But I wasn’t seeing Sanchez’ upside like I do cutler. I took the spring off from the blog. The conversation was too much about trading/cutting Cutler, which was just a non-starter for me for a 1/2 dozen reasons. Once I reached the conclusion that Jay wasn’t an elite QB, I realized he could be a very good QB, if he played on a team that could play defense at all. So I checked out of the Blog until games started.

  • No, the Bears do not have the 3rd best pass defense in the NFL. Volume yardage is an incredibly pointless stat to use.

    They are 10th in the NFL in yards per attempt, 30th in TD allowed, tied for 24th in INTs (only 3 teams worse), and 28th in passer rating. Teams haven’t thrown the ball against Chicago a ton (thus the low volume of yards), but they’ve done so effectively when they do. That does not equal a good pass defense.

    That said, the pass D has definitely improved the last few weeks. It was terrible the first 2 games, and has been respectable-not good, but respectable-the last 3. That’s a huge step in the right direction.

    In the same vein, the Bears do not have the 4th best defense in the NFL, as many Bears fans have proudly proclaimed in the last 24 hours.

    • Big Mike

      But at least some of the stats say we aren’t a bunch of sorry ass losers licking the bottom of the rankings.

  • Nick Foles is horrible. Which is why STL was one of 3 teams I identified who would be interested in trading for Cutler next offseason, should the Bears be interested in trading him (which I don’t think happens). The other 2 are Houston and Cleveland.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Nobody’s trading Cutty now. And he’s like the cheapest QB in football after next season …..

      And what’s with the no-love for Seattle, Jefe? Their record? They only allow 3.5 YPC on the ground and are ranked about 7th in passing D. Defense wins champs, and we know they’ll be there come the playoffs.

      • TheBigCheesy

        if they don’t have home field advantage, they are absolutely fucked…and they’ve already lost 3 games.

    • BerwynBomber

      Too early for this pronouncement. Lots of QBs have horrible games. Was Foles merely a product of Chip Kelly’s system? Could be, but not something that can be definitively decided after five weeks with a new team.

  • “Pats are just rolling through the NFL with ease. Next meaningful game they play will be at Foxboro in the AFC title game.”

    I hate to say it, but same for GB. They’re going to be the #1 seed in the NFC, and they just don’t lose at home. I really hope the Pats beat them in the Super Bowl.

    • Big Mike

      I can think of no worse outcome than NE and GB in the superbowl and having to cheer for New England.

      • SC Dave

        I would categorically root for Green Bay. *Anybody* over the Cheatriots.

        • BerwynBomber

          Have to agree. I can’t abide the Patriots any longer. ANYONE but the Pats.

          • BillW

            My preference as of today is Arizona vs Cincinnati.

            Subject to change pending continuing improvement of our beloved.

        • CanadaBear

          I’m going with none of the above. You are totally correct about the Pats but it’s just not in my DNA to root for the Fudgies.

        • The Yes Guy

          Yes.

        • Big Mike

          Can’t root for GB. I’ve tried. I’m just holding out hoping something happens to GB or NE. The best two teams after 5 weeks seem to rarely play in the SB.

      • BillW

        You are going to break the upvote record with that post sir!

        EDIT – you may even get the Yes Guy to say Yes twice.

        • Joecashflow

          Yes, all 10 readers of this blog voted for him

    • BerwynBomber

      Can’t ever root for NE again. Too much smoke in that organization not to conclude there is fire. (“He referred to himself as the ‘deflator’ because he was trying to lose weight.”)

      So I am of the ANYONE but NE camp, and yes, even including the Cheese.

      Thing is, a bit early to think these two are locks for the SB. GB could be beaten by a few teams, and remember even last year, they barely squeaked by DAL before their SEA meltdown.

      NE seems to have an easier path if only because they are maddeningly consistent in the post-season. But even over there an upset could happen.

    • willbest

      Don’t count Eli out. And I can’t think of anything more delicious than him sending the pats home 18-1 for the second time

  • That Cutler/Gase picture is so perfect. The look on Cutty’s face is that classic “don’t care.”

    • Big Mike

      Cutler is Honey Badger. ” he don’t give a shit”

      • Scharfinator

        “Yeah yeah, get it over with.”

    • SC Dave

      You deny true love?

      • MB30SD

        wuv… twoo wuv

  • Irish Sweetness

    I wouldn’t be too hard on Foles, Jefe, GB are the best team in the league at making your QB look bad – holding opposition QBs to a 62.8 rating(Jets close second).

    Moneytalk.

    (14-5 this season)

    We allow QBs a rating of 105, but Detroit are allowing opposing QBs a rating of 115. Detroit are the Worst team in football …AND THEY’RE STILL FAVORITES TO BEAT US !!! Back the Beloved at 6/5.

    ATL are only allowing QBs a rating of 83.4 and are the best rush defense in the league, while Brees and Co are third worst at rushing. Saints allow opposing QBs a rating of 108. ATL will run and pass at will.

    Price? 8/13, or close to evens at -3 pts.

    Weekend away double :

    CHI + ATL .. pays almost 3/1.

    Smaller double :

    JAX at home to beat HOU = EVs
    TEN at home to beat MIA = 8/11

    BUF are also better than EVs home to beat CIncy. The Bills make it harder on opposing QBs than the Bengals do, and they’re better at stopping the run, Some injuries there at RB though.
    The Pats will obviously be interesting against the Colts whatever the spread.

    FWIW, the Packers appear to be allowing yards on the ground (5.0 ypc) in a trade off with closing down opposing QBs.

    • no Julio on Thursday though, and road teams on TNF have a pretty bad record.

      I still think ATL wins, because NO is terrible, but that game scares me enough I wouldn’t want to bet it.

      • Irish Sweetness

        No Julio has to go into the mix, yes. Any fears about taking the Jaguars at home? I haven’t really seen Bortles.

        The Titans have the best pass D apparently, so they should take care of Miami as they don’t seem to run it much/play from behind a lot

  • MB30SD

    So al and I had a bit of a debate last night after the sd/pit game.

    The hit on the goaline that got the sd safety an unsportsmanlike…

    I said that was a great hit to save the td… on a guy that was struggling to pull the first tackler over the plane. It wasn’t on a defenseless runner, and it IS football and how it should be played… the way the game was invented and played until about 5 years ago.

    Players know the risks and get paid handsomely for t hose risks, money most could never even imagine without football.

    My take is that taking hitting out of football, yes, even helmet to helmet… and sometimes especially H/H hitting is turning football into something that’s not football and guys like George halls are turning over in their Graves watching what the nfl and these refs are doing to this sport of kings.

    …btw,I completely understand the counter point, I just reject it wholesale. This isn’t pee wee football. This is a profession played by big boys.

    What say ye?

    • MB30SD

      Btw, visit the last string to get the full debate… there’s more than the above summary (on both sides)

      • Big Mike

        I just saw the hit and it was a good hit, bad call. I don’t approve of helmet to helmet kill shots. I believe leading with your helmet and especially driving your helmet into another players helmet needs to be eliminated for safety reasons, but primarily for the future of the sport. With that said, in the play mentioned, the defensive player was attempting to tackle the offensive player using his left shoulder.

        • MB30SD

          So here’s my thing… academically and scientifically I completely understand that pov, I just have trouble getting rid of something that basically was the foundation of the game. That and we’re not talking about kids playing for fun on in the park here.

          I just think it’s classic nfl pandering. The helmet IS football… without it you have rugby with shoulder pads. The helmet was introduced to allow for helmet lead hits. Period. It’s the way the game was played for most of its history.

          If the nfl were that serious about preventing head injuries, they’d outlaw helmets altogether… not the bullshit we saw last night.

          • Big Mike

            My opinion has evolved to the point where I would rather see the NFL change and move a couple of small steps towards being flag football, rather than having the popularity and passion for the game eroded.

            Every time a high school kid dies playing football, 10,000 players don’t sign up for youth football. (stat made up, but you get the idea). The enrollment for youth football in the county where i coach has declined every year for the last 10 years. The county has grown and is one of the most prosperous in the country. My own club has seen enrollment drop from 600 to 400. We’ve gone from fielding 28 teams to fielding 15.

            These aren’t future NFL players, although 3 or 4 have come through the system, but these are the kids that play in HS and become the champions for the game.

            The game has plenty of rewarding moments of physical competition without the helmet to helmet/kill shot.

            This doesn’t speak to the play last night. I thought it was a bad interpretation of a decent rule. That safety was simply trying to stop the ball carrier he was not targeting, leading with his head, or hitting a defenseless player.

          • Scharfinator

            The outlawing of helmets can’t start at the NFL level though. These guys would fire on reflex and you’d have brains in the grass. You have to start in a generation of peewees and let them grow into the sport without helmets.

          • SC Dave

            Precisely

          • The GP

            I loved Brains in the Grass. That was that zombie movie with Warren Beatty.

          • MB30SD

            I like this concept.

          • Trac

            In rugby, you’re only allowed to hit the guy with the ball but I agree that the NFL should outlaw helmets.

          • BerwynBomber

            “The helmet was introduced to allow for helmet lead hits.”

            Are your sure about that or was it designed more to protect the player’s head?

            One thing I have noticed when watching highlight reels from the 60’s and 70’s is there was very little leading with the helmet and/or most of the big hits were delivered with a shoulder. In fact, the head-hunting was via a guy using a forearm shiver as opposed to his own helmet.

          • AlbertInTucson

            The fabled “Clothes line” tackle.

          • BillW

            “I think I broke his f-ing neck!”

            The (original) Longest Yard

          • AlbertInTucson

            I can’t think of his name but the Bears had a guy RENOWNED for the colthesline in the 50s. He MAY have been the inspiration for outlawing it.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Ted Cassidy’s line?

            AKA “Lurch” on The Addams Family.

          • MB30SD

            I was being a bit facetious, but one begot the other no?

        • BillW

          I love the combination of strategy and physicality of football. I don’t like the potential life altering injuries. So I don’t like the idea that players willingly signing a waiver that says any and all injuries are just part of the game – for entertainment purposes.

          It would seem like leading with the head – or blows aimed at the head – could be considered illegal without removing the overall physicality of the sport. I don’t think they are necessary in order to make football, football.

          There is one thing (besides eliminating helmets) that could make the game safer without changing any rules. It will never happen because speed is important – but if the equipment were heavier instead of lighter, there would be less high speed collisions. Again, won’t happen, but in no way does that make the game “sissified.” Same manly men hitting all over the field, just at a couple MPH slower.

          Watch a game from the 70s or maybe even 80s. Noticeably slower than today – yet very hard hitting.

          • Big Mike

            It’s physics. Newton’s second law of motion. Force equals mass times
            acceleration. NFL players are bigger and faster. The 1985 Bears defensive line averaged 283 lbs (that included William Perry). Their average 40 time was 4.98. The Seattle Seahawks (chosen because they have the highest ranked 4-3 defense this week, has an average weight of 294 lbs and has a 40 yard dash time of 4.93.

            Probably should have looked at Linebackers, because they are the guys who get a full head of steam. But I already had the stats on the 85 Bears dline (Hampton, McMichael, Perry and Dent).

          • Joecashflow

            Less hi speed by a heavier mack truck = maybe same force, just guessing.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        i am on the side of the big hit. granted in this hit the DB led with the helmet but damn it was a bang bang play preventing a touchdown. To many times there are flags on big hits that are undeserved. The Defenseless Player penalties are total bullshit, they are football players on a football field they should expect to be hit at anytime. Let them play. Fine them afterwards if it is illegal like Helmet to Helmet.

    • MB30SD
      • Sactowns#1

        Looked like he launched himself to me. Also what’s up with the perpetually poor form tackling. If he would have driven through his man and wrapped him up he might have stopped a TD.

        • willbest

          He did stop the TD, what he wouldn’t have done was stop the clock however. Which would have forced the Steelers to use their last time out. Would have been interesting if the steelers would have rolled it all on bell, or kicked the FG

          • Sactowns#1

            This is true.

        • Big Mike

          He had a bad angle. to get in proper form, would have taken an extra step he did not have

        • MB30SD

          split second decision and basically instinct took over.

          and he did stop the td.

    • willbest

      You wouldn’t have HtH if people were wearing the leather hats instead of these space age designs that allow players to feel invincible. As for the play in particular, it violates the letter of the rule, but not the spirit. Unfortunately, you can’t have refs making judgment calls like that.

      I would also like to point out that only a handful of guys are going to be seeing money the rest of us only dream of. When you figure the average career is 3 years and the median NFL salary is 770k that is under 2.4 million gross and less than 1.2 million net after taxes, agent fees, union dues, etc.

      I will have earned a lot more than that in my lifetime. Granted it only takes them 3 years and they can do other things, but then my body is unlikely to fall apart on me in my 40s, and my lower annual salary over longer periods helps me budget my life better than getting what amounts to a lump sum in my 20s. Many of these athletes don’t have the sense to realize that salary won’t last forever, and don’t comprehend the amount of suffering they will have to endure later in life.

      For the last decade or so, I have felt the union has done its members a disservice by not spending a large chunk of its negotiated player salaries on gold plated healthcare and modest pensions, with the Super Stars still getting their FU money.

      • MB30SD

        Yes, I was waiting for the money discussion. I am putting that aside because the two guys involved last night, and in many of these hits are starters somewhere on the 53, thus I wasn’t taking PS players into account.

        Also, if you look at a lot of these guys and the situations they come from, playing in the nfl is by far and away the best shot at a reasonable sum of cash they’ll ever have. And I’m not just making thinly veiled references to the black players. A lot of these guys aren’t exactly Rhodes scholars, they didn’t have positions in law firms or hospitals waiting for them if they decided not to play.

        So… while your point has merit, it doesn’t really fit for most of these guys.

        • willbest

          You have a point. But you don’t just make it to the pros with natural talent. There is a lot of hard work and discipline. It would seem to me that somebody that is capable of that could succeed in a number of areas. Though perhaps the passion of the game, and the allure of $100 million contract provide much motivation than say making $60k a year tiling showers in suburbia for 40 years.

          • MB30SD

            Right, that and it’s mostly physical when you get down to it. The vast majority of these guys aren’t built in the accountant mold.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Yes, a debate, boys and girls.

      In the end, neither of us was moved from our position but feel free to note that:

      No names were called.

      No insults were hurled.

      No one’s ancestry was challenged.

      No profanities were exchanged.

      No blood was spilled.

      As always, those who disagree with me are free to maintain their misguided, wrong, ignorant, stupid, laughable, childish, ridiculous opinions.

      Disclaimer 1: Yes, the last line is purely in jest.

      Disclaimer 2: Trolls need not apply.

      • The GP

        Al, you German bastard of a Pollack! Are you listening to that Jew MB again? A pox be on you!

        (For you playing the home game: this is IRONY. Do not send the PC Police)

        • AlbertInTucson

          FYI: Lithuanian. Just like Butkus.

      • CanadaBear

        Maybe you guys could help this approach catch on in the political arena?

        • Sactowns#1

          Did someone say politics? The debates are on tonight and I am pumped! I cant wait for Bernie to get all indignant, walk over and rip the mask off of who we thought was Hillary just to find out it was really Mr. Wallstreet all along. “And I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn’t for you blasted progressives” Jinkies!

        • AlbertInTucson

          People who think political sparring is bad THESE days need to check some of the Congress’ history.

        • willbest

          As a country we agreed on Washington. After him… well Jefferson’s campaign manager called John Adams a hermaphrodite Don’t buy into the lie that politicians were high on substance in the bygone years. The Lincoln-Douglas debates were an aberration.

          • BillW

            You read my mind. Saw the mini-series twice (Adams) and read the book. Amazing Adams and Jefferson stayed close throughout their golden years. More amazing they both died July 4th 50 years after the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

      • MB30SD

        exactly Al. I 100% respect you as a man and poster (from what I know of you in 5-6 years now… never having actually met you).

        That said, I resemble your line above the disclaimers. hahaha

    • DocNitty Ellipsoids Ornamental

      I’m with ya.

  • willbest

    The improvement to the Falcons D tends to lead me to the belief that yes Seattle has some talented defensive players. But that Quinn is a legit NFL coach. That being said, Seattle started off sluggish last year before finishing strong.

    Chip Kelly is looking less insane in trading Foles, though it was still a bad deal given Bradford vs. Foles salary and the draft picks he had to give up. At least Bradford looks like an NFL QB if he weren’t playing in that awful system.

    • Scharfinator

      We will see about Quinn. The Falcons definitely look ready to play, but a lot of new coaches come in strong to a decent situation and then fall of their next few seasons.

      • Irish Sweetness

        No.1 rush D in the league. That mentality wasn’t there before he arrived.

        • Scharfinator

          Like I said, they look ready to play. But if you want to crown his ass, crown his ass. 😛

          • beninnorcal

            But, at least, don’t let him off the hook.

      • BerwynBomber

        Quinn has impressed me too but yours is a valid point. A new HC can often light a fire under a team’s collective ass but sustained success is a different thing altogether.

        But what has to be reassuring for ATL is they had no names on D and he is getting much more out of that unit than Mike Smith did.

      • CanadaBear

        Never been a fan of their QB. Not that he isn’t good but highly over rated. I always thought the Falcons were soft. I’m sure Quinn will help in that regard.

      • SC Dave

        Players learn a new level of fear for their jobs when a new regime comes in. Or so i would guess

  • CanadaBear
    • The GP

      So wanting Clutts at FB is bad.

      If I were a good GM, I would spend all my decision roster slots on pure speed guys.

      Interesting.

      I do know this: Marc Mariani is not Hester in his prime. He’s not Wes Welker. He’s not even a 70s Steve Largent. He is excellent NCAA material who is about a standard deviation below the speed and quickness needed to return punts.

      • AlbertInTucson

        He DOES have 2 TD returns on his NFL resume’ and he seems confident back there.

        • The GP

          He’s a guy who won’t screw you up. He pulled off one coffin corner corner kick he should have ran under and fair caught, but he makes the right decisions.

          He’s just NCAA fast. Not NFL fast.

      • CanadaBear

        Well there probably won’t be another Devin for a while. I’m just glad Mariani hangs onto the ball. The Bears ST’s are looking better but I still hold my breath with every KO.

  • Big Mike

    “Cutler’s tenacity has spread to the rest of the roster. The Bears seemed
    to mail it in last year when the losses began to mount. The vibe in the
    locker room is completely different under head coach John Fox”

    Fuck Trestman. (sorry)
    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4700355/jay-cutler-sparks-bears-newfound-sense-of-toughness

    • BillW

      The national press is in fact starting to notice.

      • Big Mike

        The lag time between what the national media spouts and reality is often years. Watching the Bears broadcast, an announcer said “Bears special team is typically a strength of the team”.

  • CanadaBear

    New Thread.

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