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As Training Camp Approaches, A Lack of Expectations Define Bears Summer

| July 13th, 2015

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According to Paddy Power, Ireland’s premier gambling site, the Chicago Bears are 30-1 to win the NFC in 2015. Only two teams have worse odds: the Redskins and Bucs. (Those two teams are sub-professional.) Only four teams in the whole of the NFL have worse odds to win the Super Bowl. But one does not need the citizens of County Clare to state what is clear to anyone objectively examining the Bears 2015 roster: this team just isn’t all that good.

Does that mean they can’t win some games? Of course not. It’s the NFL. But they have flawed quarterback, unhappy running back, rookie at wide receiver, disgruntled tight end and serious deficiencies on the offensive line. The defense? The Bears have as many men on one-year deals as T-Mobile. The unit will be improved as a result of the coaching change alone but will any of that improvement mean anything if a majority of the group will be elsewhere in 2016?

There are things to care about this summer. There always are. The combination of Alshon Jeffery and Kevin White could anchor the Bears offense for years to come. The placement of Kyle Long along the offensive line is as significant as any coaching decision made in the lead-up to Bourbonnais. But developments and decisions such as these, while harboring a long-term importance, won’t mean much for the coming campaign. Even if Kevin White is a revelation it won’t win the Bears enough games to contend for a title (see the 2014 Giants). Even if Kyle Long emerges as one of the game’s best tackles, no tackles have ever willed a team to a title.

The Bears were unprofessional in 2014. They were an embarrassment, led partly by a turncoat who seems to spend his offseason beating up children in Florida. The optimist dreams of playoffs and a shocking run to Super Bowl 50 in Santa Clara. The clear-minded see 2015 for what it is – a return to the professional ranks.

In that regard this training camp is as important as anyone the Bears have faced in years. It’s just not an exciting one.

 

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  • AlbertInTucson

    MY expectations: Low: #1 pick has ALREADY come up lame.

  • AlbertInTucson

    River Forest. Next door to my old stompin’ grounds.

    http://wgntv.com/2015/07/12/police-involved-in-critical-incident-in-river-forest/

    This is being called an “ambush”.

    • BerwynBomber

      Exhibit 332 in “Why Chicago is the Murder Capital of the US”. Cops getting ambushed in tony River Forest? Honestly?

    • This is what happens when the government militarizes the police.

      It creates “guerrilla” criminals – criminals who no longer view the police as protecting citizens.

      the old mob used to have a rule – don’t kill cops (unless they’re corrupt).

      Now, every criminal automatically assumes all cops are corrupt, racist and murderous.

      As long as cops march around like storm troopers, I expect “ambushing” cops to become more of a trend. It’s a natural escalation (just look at Mexico).

      https://decryptedmatrix.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/police-militarized.jpg

      • Sactowns#1

        And just like in Mexico you can thank the war on drugs.

  • Trac

    What team Jeff? The one that hasn’t played a down yet?

    Patience Laddy, patience.

    • Irish Sweetness

      A fair point, Trac. With Grassu, and hopefully a find in Tayo, the line could be a revelation (as long as Mills is not on it). Fangio has some new toys we haven’t seen in a Bears’ jersey .. .who knows?

      • Trac

        I’d just l like to see the product 9 the field first before I throw in the towel. Sorry, that’s the kinda guy I am.

  • BearDown100393

    “The clear-minded see 2015 for what it is – a return to the professional ranks.” – 100% accurate and beautifully expressed.

    • The GP

      The Dec 15th 2014 pre-XMAS shit storm.

      http://chi.247sports.com/Bolt/Bad-Play-By-Cutler-and-Bears-Brings-Out-Angry-Jon-Gruden-33896239

      Gruden essentially says the Bears are not a pro team anymore. The wheels didn’t just come off the bus that night, the whole back two axles ripped clean off and the bus skidded on it’s side like the BNSF freighter in The Fugative.

      I’m fairly certain that game took a year off Buffone’s life. His rant with OB post-game was something I wish I recorded and made into little DBB sound bites.

      This Dec. 15th I am going to just be ready to watch Geritol Solo in the new Star Wars opening the 18th. Hopefully the Bears and Fox have run a .500 season and made strides to identifying who they can be in 2016 and beyond. Wishing for any more is nice, but just that – wishing.

      We’ve become the Kansas City Chiefs of the NFC. A team that, at ANY sign of life, people start buzzing about, but that under-performs at every level year in and year out. We cleaned house this year, let’s give new people at neverly EVERY level of the org time to gel and start something good.

      • BearDown100393

        I just don’t want to wear a brown bag on my head during games. Thanks to Emery/Trestman, that is the starting point.

      • Sactowns#1

        + 100 for Doug Buffone! Trestman should have been fired on the spot.

        • SC Dave

          As should have Cutler

      • Scharfinator

        I’m not sure if I am more excited for Episode 7 or Rogue one.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Is it possible that Abrams fucks this up? Exhibit A. Super 8.

          • Scharfinator

            It’s definitely possible, but I think his track record favors the good. As long as he stays away from lens flares.

  • Rob Fagiano-Gleason

    Way to state the obvious shithead. I dont think that anyone should be close to thinking SB? BUT if you think that last years team wouldve been a 5 game winner with these new coaches then youre dumber then this column.

    • The GP

      A Bear Goggles reject comes around and calls Blogfather a shithead?

      http://www.memesly.com/media/created/hztm1q.jpg

      • AlbertInTucson

        “Cleanup on aisle 1. Troll deposit.”

        • Shady

          Why do people keep feeding him Al?

          • BearDown100393

            Why did Buffalo bother to hire him?

          • AlbertInTucson

            You know MY policy but I’ve given up beating that drum.

          • “The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits” – Einstein

          • Irish Sweetness

            And wasn’t that choice coming from old Albert! He thought quantum mechanics was bullshit. Wrong. He argued the nature of reality with Neils Bohr. Wrong again (from Alain Aspect’s proof of Bell’s theorem). He ridiculed Richard Feynman’s quantum electrodynamics – the most accurate physics in existence. Wrong again

            The man that gave us relativity, and the revolutionary idea of a quantum, looked like a ninny on everything else. Isn’t that crazy? The dude that gave us the concept of quanta .. doesn’t buy into the mechanics that goes with them, even though they were experimentally sound? WTF?

            Genius does indeed have its limits, or perhaps just suffers from ego.

      • Rob Fagiano-Gleason

        Yes

    • DaBearsBlog

      Nice comment. Welcome aboard.

      • Rob Fagiano-Gleason

        YOU as the writer is not a shithead, its the person who thinks that were in the running for a deep run let alone the SB. AT THE SAME TIME, you seem to tear down the talent. Detroit had some talent but no coaching and they almost got into the 2nd round of the playoffs because they got coaching. I find it hard to believe that player level and coaching we now have isnt gonna be night and day from last year! The Bears would never have gone 5-11 with this current coaching. It all starts at the top and runs downhill.

        • Rob Fagiano-Gleason

          Better news is you have an admirer! Its not a secret anymore!

      • Johnnywad

        Good news is…….you is not a shithead.

    • SC Dave

      Um, that would be dumber *than*

      • Rob Fagiano-Gleason

        Be thankful for what you got. Youre lucky thats the only error and that its ledgible.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          really not sure we are lucky it’s legible.

          • Rob Fagiano-Gleason

            Buuuuurn! Thanks for taking the time to display your wit. And thank you for the wasted breaths it took to read it. PLEASE come back with more!

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            you are welcome. Don’t worry the next time you sound like an IDIOT, i will be sure to point it out.

          • Rob Fagiano-Gleason

            Phew!

          • Scharfinator

            BRUTALITY.

        • Johnnywad

          You keep forgetting your apostrophes.

  • BerwynBomber

    Lack of expectations, my ass. There is no reason not to see a) the shootout-winning offense we were promised last year, and b) a much improved defense.

    In short, if this team doesn’t play .500 ball or better it will be a disappointment.

    P.S. we have a 32 year old “franchise” QB with a lot of weapons surrounding him. We are in win now mode.

    • Trac

      It’s pretty lame of Jeff to approach the season this way. Not saying I expect a playoff appearance but a girl can dream can’t she?

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’m in Jeff’s boat – not expecting anything. Just enjoy the revelations, and if we crash and burn … it’s decent draft picks. Win win.

        • Trac

          From worst to first? Any takers? Buelller….Bueller….

          • Irish Sweetness

            But we don’t even have inside linebackers IMHO. At least Garza is out of there, I think that’s huge. We lost a huge player in Brandon, and replaced him with a rook. Peanut’s gone. Allen isn’t getting any younger. Our RT (as was ) sucks IMO.

            And let’s not forget that Jay is still the QB. A born drive-killer if ever there was one, and not a guy you look to when the game is on the line. So going worst to first is not possible with him at the helm methinks. The Bills had Jim Kelly and it still wasn’t possible.

            POX are using Cutty in an attempt to do something he has never done. Win something. It’s a fallacy to say “he’s all we’ve got”. We could have off-loaded him, and gone into a new season and era with Leonard Williams and somebody like Ryan Fitz. They chose not to, and history will have its say on that decision.

        • Trac

          This is just weird. I’ve never seen the expectations so low on da blog.

          • Johnnywad

            I believe they’re going to be fairly competitive. I don’t think a wild card spot is out of the realm of possibility.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We have never sucked so badly though Trac. Expecting to do well this year is based on what exactly? Our best players are rooks right now. Probably. I hope.

    • Doc Hamstring

      Gotta agree, and add this:

      Injuries often determine the success or failure of an NFL season. Look at the last 10 years of 10+ win Bears teams, and they all avoided significant injuries. Look at the sub-par teams (yes, including last year) and they had significant injuries.

      If this team, with this talent and this coaching, avoids significant injuries, it’s playoffs-bound.

      After 2 more years of successful re-build, regardless of the coaching or QB-ing, if they have significant injuries, they won’t get to the playoffs.

      • Irish Sweetness

        This why a couple of years of high draft picks is almost mandatory. We need a roster full of decent players, no just starters. Last year we didn’t even have the starters.

  • willbest

    I expect/demand 7 wins. At least 3 in the division, raiders, bucs, skins, and 1 more from the field. I will be content with 8, happy with 9, and surprised with 10 or more. Low/no expectations is another 5 win season.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I … erm … secretly hope we take this year to figure stuff out and let our rookies find their feet ….. which might … um … result in another 5-11/6-10 season and some nice draft picks.

      We want a superbowl – or at least a decent shot at one – and if we have to suck for a while to get that squad, well so what? We suck anyway, right?

  • The GP
    • BearDown100393

      Wilson and Mongo sound like old geezers on the front porch screaming at kids for stepping on their lawn. The guys who play today are bigger, stronger and faster than their era 30 years ago. Football today is a year round career. These guys train non-stop. The playbook gets larger. They are drug tested now. The spot light has never been brighter or more critical. How many members of the beloved ’85 squad would’ve been crucified by today’s social media (double) standards for THEIR extra-curricular activities?

      • Irish Sweetness

        The guys who play linebacker for the Bears today aren’t fit to sniff Otis and Wilber’s jockstraps.

        • Big Mike

          In a historical context you couldn’t be more correct. I don’t know how far back you can go before comparisons of another era are still relevant, but I would say that Otis Wilson and Wilber Marshall would be pressed to make an NFL team.

          • Trac

            So what you’re saying is that the NFL hall of fame in Canton is a joke? Interesting.

          • Big Mike

            C’mon Trac, give me some credit 🙂 Absolutely not. Quite the contrary. The HOF judges players based on their greatness in the era and the perhaps the adjacent era to when they played. The Football Hall of Fame is the real deal.

            What I wrote was both a question and a statement. My question was how far back in time can you go and make relevant comparisons of players? I feel safe in saying there aren’t players from 50 years ago who would succeed in today’s game. Not big enough, not fast enough, not conditioned enough. Even the greatest of that era, Jim Brown would be a good, but not a HOF RB in today’s game. His size 6’2″ 225 and speed 4.6 40 is pedestrian for today’s backs. In his time he was a bigger and faster than everyone on the field. Linebackers from his era were running 5.0 second 40s. Butkus was considered a freak and he ran 4.7s.

            It’s always an interesting exercise to make these types of comparisons. RBs and LBs are the only group of players where there is even a chance. OL/DL way too big, strong and fast. WR and DB’s no way.

            So I may have jumped the gun to make a point about Marshall and Wilson. But they would now be challenged with fighting the blocks of OL who are .2 to .4 faster and 30lbs bigger.

          • Trac

            Here’s the x factor you’re not giving enough credit to. The love of the game. Back then, money took a back seat to the love of the game. I couldn’t disagree with you more. The only difference you see now is training and PED’s. Those two factors when added to the player is the difference in the athlete of yesterday vs today.

          • Big Mike

            I don’t think so. It’s the only reason the best of the best from earlier eras could even compete. Heart, football IQ, etc. Not only training and PED’s, the rewards are higher, so it skims the top of the gene pool. Those guys that played ball in the 60s and earlier were economically only slightly ahead of a firefighter or cop.

            Heart will get you so far. Today’s athletes are not without heart. We just no too much about them.

            Football players are just substantially better now than they were 20 years ago, let alone 30, 40 and 50. Last fall I was on the sideline of a nationally televised HS football game. Richie Petibone’s kid was on one side. The game had 14 players with D1 commitments. The OL averaged 270. The tackles were 6’4 285. The RB’s put up 4.5 40s. Maybe 2 of those kids makes it onto an NFL roster.

            And yes it is a pointless argument. Which is exactly the point. There’s no comparison.

          • BearDown100393

            The players are bigger, stronger and faster in today’s game. And that should in no way threaten any player’s legacy from a different era. IMO players in general should be evaluated against their peers from their own era. The rest is just hypothetical discussions of interest mostly by bored journalists and fans. (Even still Rocky Balboa was an entertaining movie…..)

          • Big Mike

            That’s my opinion as well.

          • BerwynBomber

            I wouldn’t much argue with your bigger/faster argument in a general sense (although I think there are outlier/exceptions among the old-timers) but one HUGE advantage current athletes have over the old school dudes is the medical advancements in surgery. Sadly, Butkus’ and Sayers’ careers were cut short due to injuries that, in today’s game, might not be the career death knells they once were.

          • Big Mike

            I believe that just would have made their respective legacies in their respective eras even greater. Butkus was a freak compared to his peer group. He was one of the larger MLBs, he obviously had great football instincts and toughness, but his speed was an outlier. He was as fast as most running backs. My feeling is he is one of a handful that could compete in today’s game.

            It’s a fun discussion. One that I bring out every now and again when I start hearing things about how everything along time ago was better than everything now.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agree about Butkus and your points in general. It’s one of the reasons why, excepting a few guys of unmatched skill and achievement (Jordan, Ruth and Gretzky namely), it is probably safe to answer most GOAT arguments by saying whoever is the greatest of the current era suffices because of the bigger/faster/stronger evolution that is natural to most sports.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I agree on Butkus. He knew how to hit people, and I just don’t see any of our boys even coming close to that. Modern players can tend to do an impression of being mean, and then you see them helping up opposing players from the ground.

          • Trac

            You just cannot make a comparison with the student athletes of yesterday verses the targeted college recruits of today. I guess I disagree with attempting to compare the two.

          • Big Mike

            Where do NFL players come from? You’ve basically made my point

          • Johnnywad

            Just go back and look at results from Olympic track and field events. Not too many Olympics pass by, before a past gold medal performance, would fail to even qualify for the finals of the most recent contest.

          • Big Mike

            Agreed.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Would Jesse Owens even beat woman? And the tracks they run on, in the shoes they run on ….

            Tennis? They’re hitting balls 20 mph faster now than they were in the 80s/90s. Not because they’re ‘better’, but because the gear they use is better.

          • Big Mike

            No, they are better and the gear is better. Look at Serena Williams and Chris Evert. No chance for Chris Evert, no matter what gear she used. Jesse Owens wouldn’t qualify for a track scholarship to a college today, let alone get to the olympics.

          • Johnnywad

            People are getting bigger, faster, and strongerstronger in general. The equipment is also getting better.

            How about Michael Phelps in his heyday? Dude was breaking records in successive competitions for most of a decade. It wasn’t gear related.

          • Irish Sweetness

            On Jim Brown, his 5.2 yards per rush is still outstanding. And I doubt there’s ever another receiver that gets 22,000 yards receiving.Is tackling getting any better? You know it’s not if you’re a Bears fan.

            We’re getting further and further into wussy football. Yes, concussions are a serious issue, but did anyone watch UFC 189 last weekend? Two victories by flying knee, and they had to blade the blood off the floor after almost every fight.

            Let warriors be warriors. Nobody will pay to watch flag football.

          • Big Mike

            Jim Brown was so much better than the players of his era. He’s a guy that in his prime could have played in today’s NFL. However, he would not have been “JIM BROWN”. His size and speed would be considered middle of the pack, not off the charts. He’d be able to compete because of his football IQ and toughness. My opinion anyways.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Works he other way ’round too – how would Turtlehead Manning fare being hammered senseless on every other play ? Or players getting concussed and going back in on the next series? Players might be bigger and faster now, but the drek I’ve watched at linebacker these last few years … it’s just sad.

            Mongo was right – these guys get their payday and then take their foot off the gas. Halas kept them hungry. Ditka’s attemp at salary negotiation after he re-defined the tight end position is a classic.

          • Big Mike

            QB is a position I left out of the discussion on purpose. Certainly the rules changes have impacted the game.

    • Trac

      Fart knocker!

      • The GP

        Ha! Channel Barb!

        • Trac

          🙂

  • Big Mike

    Great line. Maybe the best in the history of the blog “The Bears have as many men on one-year deals as T-Mobile.”

    • SC Dave

      Yeah, I liked that too, and should have said so. But this blog has a looong history, Mike.

      • Big Mike

        I’ve been here for 4 maybe 5 years now. I know the blog goes back before that. Which is why I put the “maybe” in front. I would nominate it to be in the running.

        Some of the best quotes, if not most are in the comment section.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    I expect NOTHING. 500 Would be respectful considering last season’s train-wreck. If they do better Awesome! Cutty’s last hurrah. Bear Down.

  • Doc Hamstring

    That Trestman came down on Kromer’s side, and the recent events in Kromer’s life, indicates just how bad a judge of character and leader of men Trestman is.

    • The GP

      Trestman’s interests were served by benching Jay. He needed Pickles to play well to show the world that his “system” had merit and his intellect brain had not dried up like a prune in the sun.

      So he floated the conspiracy to Kromer to bad mouth Jay to Ian Rappaport. The NFL writer did what he was supposed to do: publish. But then somebody at Halas, possibly at the behest of George, found out and exposed Kromer. Trestman needed plausible deniability. Kromer was a good soldier and provided it.

      So what it shows is that Trestman is a Grima Wormtounge, and surrounds himself with people of equal low character while writing books on character and holding himself up as a renaissance man. He’s worse than a bad judge of character: he is a bad character.

      • BearDown100393

        Oliver Stone wants you to return his call.

        • Sactowns#1

          I actually just watched Born on the 4th of July last night. Man that movie is a bit heavy handed and I’m pretty damn liberal.

          • BearDown100393

            Nothing wrong at all for a gay man to serve in the marine corps.

          • Irish Sweetness

            All those super sweaty torsos in khaki are to die for! And desert boots go with anything, natch.

        • The GP

          Actually the paragraph above is pretty much just a summation of several Dan Bernstein and Biggsy articles. It’s not even a theory, it’s widely accepted that Trestman and Kromer colluded to bad mouth Jay in the press once Trestman’s job was on the line. It’s also considered the torpedo that sunk him.

          • Tresty lost all credibility with me once that played out. I mean, I expect that shit from Buddy Ryan or Shwartz or a douche coach who don’t give a fuck…but when you’re preaching “better man” cumbaya then become machivellian…he is either a hypocrite, spineless or clueless, and I’m not sure which is worse.

      • SC Dave

        So funny how people know so much about those they’ve never met, and have never spoken to. Or so I imagine, anyway. Perhaps I’m wrong – do you know Mark Trestman, GP, or mere opinion masquerading as fact? Shit, there’s more than enough of THAT in the world for sure.

        • The GP

          You’re a peach, Dave.

  • The GP

    I told you guys to BUY THE DIP, didn’t I?

    • willbest

      60 points on the S&P is considered a dip? I bought in 2009

      • The GP

        You just knew the Germans were going to force feed the Greeks through a tube. And once it happened, the market would slingshot.

        • Irish Sweetness

          They were so close to giving themselves a shot at a return to a better future, and then show the way to other countries. Re-issue the Drachma, pay off all of your debt with it, re-build your infrastructure and get a nice boob-job. Anyone who turns their nose up at your national currency can kiss your sweet fanny Adam. No more recessions caused by Central banks contracting the volume of currency in supply. They should have given the two fingers to Merkel et al, instead, as always, the man at the top caved in, putting his people into further inescapable debt at the whim of banksters who could care less about the Greeks. They condemned Ireland to a similar fate without asking the people. Democracy is an illusion – we put the power in the hands of a few crooks who continue to screw us over.

          If I could wave a magic wand, I’d have Ireland exit the Euro and Europe, and take our waters back. Currently, 80% of the fish taken from Irish water is taken by foreign countries as an EU directive. Unbelievable. They don’t even have processing plants for fish in Ireland so they lose all the value-added anyway. An island surrounded by premium fishing water, and they can’t make money from it – whereas the Norwegian and Spanish trawlers make a fortune. Crazy.

          Europe is an oligarchy that suits only the banksters. That Great Britain never joined the Euro should have been a lesson to all.

          Long live the revolution

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    I haven’t had such low expectations for the Chicago Bears since 2004.”

    Well, you haven’t been around as long as some of us, either.

    • SC Dave

      Truth

    • Gotta ask the oracle…what pre-season to you felt worse than this one?

      In some sense, I’m NOT that pessimistic because the Bears DID flush out all the turds.

      The only ones still floating are sweaty Teddy and Jay, but eventually the vortex will suck them down too.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Any season with Gibron DESPITE the prescence of my avatar.

        Abe was clearly in over his head and Gale was already history.

  • beninnorcal

    I just want to be excited for football again. The offseason went by so fast because I just haven’t thought about the Bears much.

  • Trac
    • AlbertInTucson

      And talk about a guy who NEEDS to be in camp from the get-go…

    • NewBearInTown

      Hypothetical. A team signs a player without the offset language in his contract. That player has $10M fully guaranteed in the fourth year of his deal. In the off-season, the player beats up his girlfriend so the team cuts him. The guarantee means they have to pay him the $10M anyway. Another team signs the guy and offer him an additional $10M. So now the player is due to make $10M from Team 1, and $10M more from Team 2. Then the league suspends the guy for the season for, what else, beating up his girlfriend. The suspension is without pay.
      Question: Do both teams pay the salary to the league? Does the player get any of that money?

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Here’s why Pete Rose should be in the Hall: he was an all time great player. Let’s all stop being choir boys about sports.”

    Fair point.

    But doesn’t Pete have to stop being such a bald-faced liar about his past transgressions/stupidity, too?

    • NewBearInTown

      I generally fall into the camp of “include him in the hall and tell the story.” Its the Hall of “Fame,” Rose is pretty darn famous.
      With that said, I hear you. The guy is a scumbag. If MLB can’t keep him out of the hall, what can they do?

      • if they’re going to be the morality police about it, there are a lot of current HOFers who were also scumbags. Let’s boot ’em all out!

  • “Boy, Aaron Kromer sure sounds mentally & emotionally stable. But no, Cutler was the bad guy in that relationship.”
    – Not mutually exclusive, but to Cutler’s credit, he did sound like the grown up when it all went down.
    Too bad it didn’t help us to unload him

  • The GP

    ’84 Season – week 10. the Raidahs on Soldier’s turf, i.e. cement.

    Holy fuck is this a brutal brutal game. Considered one of the hardest hitting games in NFL history, the amount of QB abuse is insane.

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