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Across the Middle With Andrew Dannehy

| November 18th, 2015

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• I honestly don’t know what to make of the Bears win over the Rams. I want to feel great about it, but I’m scared. Are we sure the Rams aren’t just terrible? It reminds me of last year when the Bears beat Atlanta 27-13, largely because Atlanta’s receivers couldn’t catch. This time it was largely a matter of the Rams quarterback not being able to throw. The Bears deserve credit because they were supposed to be among the worst teams in the league and they’re clearly not. But we won’t really know if this team is good until after Thanksgiving.

• The Bears defensive line hasn’t gotten enough credit for keeping Todd Gurley in check. I found it interesting that they played Jarvis Jenkins almost strictly as a pass-rusher – only eight snaps against the run, He was replaced by Mitch Urein and Bruce Gaston.

• I know it’s popular to say Adam Gase is going to be a head coach next year, but where? Don’t rule out Dan Campbell staying in Miami and, even if he doesn’t, I don’t know why Gase would want to go there. That leaves Tennessee along with probably St. Louis, Cleveland, San Diego, Detroit and possibly San Francisco, New Orleans and Jacksonville. Out of those teams, I see Tennessee and Jacksonville as the most appealing, but that’s assuming he likes their young quarterbacks. He’s had a lot of interviews already and has gotten just one job offer, which he turned down. Maybe he finds the right fit next year, I just don’t think that should be assumed.

• Gase gets a lot of credit for making Cutler a better person and an acceptable quarterback, but is Cutler really that different than he was before? He struggled last year, but he was great in 2013 and in both 2010 and 2011. Even in a year he struggled, he accounted for 30 touchdowns in 15 games with complete disfunction around him.

• Last week, when I said Cutler has been better than Aaron Rodgers, it may have been controversial. This week, it isn’t even debatable. Even Packers fans are on board with it:

• I’m not convinced the Bears are worse off against Brock Osweiler than Peyton Manning. That would be, of course, assuming Manning was somewhat healthy. I know his arm is dead, but he can still make throws within 10 yards and doesn’t get fooled. I have no idea what throws Osweiler can make, but the chances of the Bears tricking him into a mistake are much greater. Remember, Manning shredded a decent Packers defense a couple of weeks ago. Osweiler might never have a game as good as Manning did that night. Osweiler threw one interception last week and should’ve thrown three more. And, come on, the dude’s name is Brock Osweiler, there’s no way he’s going to be good.

This Still Doesn’t Make Sense

How has the Bears defense looked so bad on their first drives and so good on every other drive the last two weeks? Over the last two weeks, the Bears have given up 624 yards and 32 points, 23 percent of the yards and 44 percent of the points they’ve allowed came on the first drives.

It isn’t just that they’ve given up long touchdown drives, it’s that they’ve looked completely lost. Receivers were running wide open and the Bears defenders looked like they walked into the wrong classroom. Then, all of a sudden, they’re good. How can that be?

I’ve blamed the coaches for not having the team ready, but those same coaches deserve credit for how they’ve been able to correct the mistakes. I just don’t get how they can look so bad and then, all of a sudden, so adequate.

Player of the Week

Zach Miller. How many second tight ends could make the play he made for the 87-yard touchdown? He didn’t just out-run defensive backs, he out-ran good defensive backs. He was a quarterback in college and was once timed at 4.43 seconds in the 40-yard dash, speed you saw on that play. That was only one play, but he caught another touchdown and was terrific as a blocker.

Goat of the Week

Jeff Fisher. Trailing 27-13, he elected to attempt a fake punt on fourth-and-seven at their own 23. Unexpected? Sure. Smart? Absolutely not. They didn’t get it, because of course they didn’t, and the Bears pretty much clinched the game with a field goal.

Why not kick it and trust your top-10 defense? Get a stop and try to score again. If they did, they would’ve been within a touchdown. If they got another stop, they would’ve had the ball with a chance to tie the game. Of course, that was when they were already losing big. Fisher just didn’t have his team ready to play and I suspect he won’t be their coach for long.

Bold Prediction for Week 11

Adrian Amos is going to get the first interception of his career and return it for a touchdown.

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  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    not enough credit is given to the OLine this year, especially with all the injuries they have had and players playing out of position.

    • Viva

      Hell yeah.

    • at the same time, Cutler has been masking their pass blocking inefficiencies and the run blocking has been sub-par.

      Persevering through injuries, yes, but not exactly playing good football.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yeah, who’s got the skinny on Omameh, Ducasse and Leno ? ‘sup?

        Cutty hasn’t been sacked a lot, but he gets hit a lot, and we’re 4-5 …. so ….

    • Irish Sweetness

      And with Langford taking to it so well … Miller’s stepping up … Cutty being in the zone … it’s a perfect storm. If we can sweep the Vikings we’re in the playoffs. Maybe lose the Championship game like 1984. We know what comes next.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        well that escalated quickly.

        • MB30SD

          hahahahaha…

          And we can’t sweep the vikings Irish, that shit sailed sadly.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Dude, my fucking memory. We played the Vikings? When did we get ice-cream?

            {THREE WEEKS AGO IRISH!}

            Right …. three weeks ago …. the before time ….

          • BillW

            I was there. They passed out this HUGE magnetic Bears head. Surprisingly the wife is OK with having on our refrigerator.

            But no ice cream.

          • MB30SD

            Jeeees

        • Irish Sweetness

          That’s the kind of crazy rollercoaster ride we’re on. Now if Peyton hobbles out there on Sunday and kicks our asses ….

      • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

        hahahaha hold your horses…. it still a long way to that happens

        • MB30SD

          at least he’s not into pumas. ; ))

          • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

            Ouch!!!

          • MB30SD

            hahahahaha… lo siento caballero. Fue mas facil

  • Bender McLugh

    “This time it was largely a matter of the Rams quarterback not being able to throw.”

    SMH. Way to give props to the Bears D Andrew, who DID show up in a big way.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He was widy inaccurate though. Guys were open, he just couldn’t drop it in the basket.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        and when he was accurate there were several dropped passes.

        • Bender McLugh

          yes yes, all of that, but the Bears D did more to disrupt their offense than any of us expected.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            agreed, i loved seeing Porter break up a couple passes.

          • Bender McLugh

            hell yes, and Shae becoming the LB many of us fans hoped he could be.

            I’m not saying the D is lights out of course, but gotta give them credit.

    • Big Mike

      I loved the way he worded that. It hit me like “a duck who can’t swim”. There’s some truth to how awful their QB was. I kept picturing Aaron Rodgers making every single fn one of those throws. because he is Aaron fn rodgers.

  • Another week, another prediction of Amos getting his first interception. I guess if you keep throwing it out there, it’s bound to happen at some point. Just like Jeff’s weekly “Hester breaks one this week” predictions.

  • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

    I’m excited to see how Bruce Gaston develops over the next few weeks. He definitely got thrown into the mix on the D line. Fangio is going to work Houston and Young into the rotation even more with Willie playing more of a traditional role as DE. Houston is starting to get his Raiders swagger back and even though we have this clownish view of him because of the antics as a Bear he was a bad motherfucker in Oakland. I think we will see even more of him and his heroics. I watched him set the edge aggressively several times against the run and his sacks have been incredibly impactful.

    • Sactowns#1

      No one…. aaatacks like Gaston, gets the sacks like Gaston, leaves opposing players flat on their backs like Gaston. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuJTqmpBnI0

      • AlbertInTucson

        I see how you did that.

      • SC Dave

        Someone had to do it, but well played.

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD

    Just kill them on the spot: http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/18/world/paris-attacks/index.html

    If you have the evidence and they are obviously guilty, just kill them, on the spot. execute them. shoot them in the head. done deal. every single one you catch in these raids.

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      France will pull no punches. 3 month State of Emergency which means 3 months of getting shit done all day everyday. Dudes are going to try to execute hastily planned attacks or to get the fuck out of France and Belgium and they will be caught and/or killed. France is the butt of many a joke but when pushed will come back with a vengeance.

      • Scharfinator

        When does the Foreign Legion march into Syria?

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          haha, they’re already there executing dudes in the darkness.

        • MB30SD
          • Scharfinator

            The aprons keep the blood off their uniforms!

          • MB30SD

            hipster beards are standard issue

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            look good, feel good, play good.

          • MB30SD

            hahaha

          • MB30SD

            hope they bring their 6-demon bag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR7q-qf3VSQ

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            pardonnez-moi , je dois vous tuer rapidement parce que je dois réserver pour le dîner sur les Champs Elysée à 19:00

          • MB30SD

            google translate?

            …or do I need to fall in love with you all over again?

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            my French is poor at best, this was all Google translate.

          • MB30SD

            damn it, i want to love again yonny!

            hahaha

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            when i speak Spanish to you you’ll know. Love will blossom again. Especially the way i pronounce Asada, makes all the heinas melt.

          • MB30SD

            hahahahahaha… perfect!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Wahinis ….

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            haha, Irish, i can’t quit you.

          • DaMurph

            You had me impressed for a second!

        • Irish Sweetness

          Ah, les Kapis blancs sont arrivee …. c’st vrai.

        • Johnnywad

          Is that the same uniform as the Knights of Columbus?

      • MB30SD

        hope so

      • The GP

        Like Balboa.

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          It’s about to get real. France, you know i’ll always love you. You’re my son.

          • MB30SD

            that kids was a whiny little bitch.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            biatch

      • Irish Sweetness

        What’s interesting is that the Lisbon treaty has been invoked for the first time. It states that any member state of the EU, if attacked, must be aided by every member of the EU.

        So if you’re a neutral country i.e. your country has a policy of non-involvement in other struggles, you’re now essentially obliged to go to war. Against what appears to be large-scale guerillas. Frontlines can disappear over-night. And the attacks by individuals/cells?? They’ll never stop. You can’t beat committed guerillas.

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          enough of that shit Irish. It’s a new day. It might take a couple years of innocents shedding blood but soon enough public opinion will turn in favor of necessary brutality and it will be over quickly.

          • CanadaBear

            How ’bout Saudi Arabia. They have a rather large standing army. How ’bout those fuckers doing some heavy lifting for a change.

          • They don’t get involved for the same reason Israel doesn’t get involved (on that scale).

            If they do, it might start WW3.

            The Shiites and Sunnis are a powder keg with allegiances from the Middle east to South East Asia, and those include big powers like the US, Russia and China and not just Muslim countries

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            haha, what Butch said.

          • Irish Sweetness

            ISIS are doing the Saudis heavy lifting for them. And the USA are scared shit-less of Saudi Arabia. The 9/11 hijackers were all Saudi, and what happened?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Gah. No way. Guerillas beat the USA in Vietnam. Guerillas ran rings around the USA in the hills of Afghanistan. The British soldiers were forced off the streets of Northern Ireland. Can’t beat ’em. Can’t make ’em go away. Can’t do it. History.

        • depends what you mean by “beat”. We can’t stop individuals from blowing themselves up or going on suicide murder sprees, but we CAN minimize their power.

      • BillW

        I’m sadly guilty at times making fun of France with the “surrender monkey” thing from the Simpsons and the “why no fireworks at Disneyland Paris? (because every night they surrender”.

        It was always in fun and certainly no true disrespect. And obviously that means nothing.

        I enjoyed a week in Paris a couple years ago much more than I could ever imagine.. I drink 1664 often as a memory of that wonderful trip with my wife and daughter.

        Someone just said “they are not a friend; they are family.” I guess that’s what it was – like a “little brother” that we always had to protect.

        I sure hope we do some ass-kicking of our own. But save the big fish for France to kill.

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          You’re a stats guy. I’m a history guy. France has been killing maiming and in general busy involved in all sorts of nonsense for about 400 years before we even existed as a country.
          To call France a little brother is laughable but i know what you meant.

          • BillW

            Thanks for understanding. I think of myself as a fairly non-bigoted person. And then realize like all bigots I think mine is harmless fun. Believe me, my ignorance of France and its history is not sitting well with me these days.

            If you have a book or two to recommend I’d much appreciate it.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            haha, i still make fun of France all the time because modern french guys are douchebags.

          • DaMurph

            Oui oui!

          • Marcel Marceau is aghast!

          • CanadaBear

            Yes. The women on the other hand …

        • Irish Sweetness

          I never got the whole ‘surrender’ joking thing with France. They’ve won more wars than anybody on the planet. In Europe anyway. Niall Ferguson points out that of the 125 major European wars fought since 1495, the French have participated in 50 – more than Austria (47) and England (43). The wars they’ve fought stretch back 2000 years.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Oh, the Legion is in there somewhere taking names, you can be sure of that.

    • Trac

      At the end of World War 2, all insurgents caught insurging, were lined up against the wall and shot or hung.

      This is the only way to proceed in the matter if positive results are desired.

      • Sactowns#1

        You can kill a man with a bullet but not his ideology. The cure? Drop laptops and wifi hotspots all over the middle east. Only information can wipe out ignorance.

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          Isis is beheading parents in front of their kids for disobeying their laws….which include breaking their rule of internet access. Then they behead the kids. From PBS, not Fox News.

          • Sactowns#1

            Yup. It’s a real sht show. Glad they don’t have any technology to attack us here in a full scale war. Now lets let the middle east fight it out on their own.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            They are starting to understand that it doesn’t necessarily take tech though, just a couple of guys getting behind the lines by any means necessary and getting a hold of some weapons.

          • Sactowns#1

            And killing 100 people or 200 once every 10 years. Man I’m super scared.
            I’m a little more frightened of crazy white guys with guns than I am of some terrorist boogeyman.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            I’m sure everything will be fine to a degree. Several world leaders have already voiced grave concern for this very same thing so don’t take offense if I don’t defer to your particular take on it. I’ll stick with the heads of the G-8.

          • Sactowns#1

            You mean the same wold leaders who stand to make trillions off of yet another war? Yeah I believe those guys every single time they tell us to be afraid. My larger point is there are a ton of other causes of human death and suffering which we could address right now. But someone wont turn a profit. So our leaders prop up the boogeyman of the moment (the Commies, Taliban. Isis) in order to gin up fear and line the pockets of their friends. These people pose no credible threat to the average citizen in the US, yet they want the average citizen to sacrifice blood and treasure in the name of “war”. It’s silly.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            I’m not sure Hollande standing up there post massacre is worried about profitability. Also, no one is asking you to sacrifice anything Sac yet somehow people will continue to fight and go to work everyday to make sure that the average citizen doesn’t have to go through what the average citizens of Paris just went through for the 2nd time in several months, this time being the largest one ever.

          • CanadaBear

            People that know they are going to die during their terrorist act are for all intents and purposes impossible to defend against.

          • Exactly. So the only question remaining : how much of our liberties do we want sacrifice to MINIMIZE (not prevent) such attacks?

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            I’m willing to let some tech analyst see what kind of weird german porn I’m into if I happen to type in some incendiary or cryptic remarks into a forum known to foster crazy ass plots and schemes.

          • How about texts between you and your wife? Or those naked scans from Total Recall at airports?

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            I think if my texts are being read there is a pretty fucking good reason. Also, if the authorities read those they’d probably kill me to put me out of my misery.
            The scans at the airports?? Hell yes. Weird TSA agent rubbing his taint while watching me in the scan tube? Hell no.

          • Sactowns#1

            This is the worst argument for sacrificing liberties, “well I’m not doing anything wrong” Well that’s by todays standards bub. Do you want all your communications stored for years and then analyzed by future standards. Maybe your beliefs todays are normal but in the future being a _______ (Christian, Jew, Communist, Capitalist) could be seen as a threat to the state. I for one don’t want to grant that kind of power to any govt.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            Sac, you already gave up all your liberties the moment you entered the grid. SOcial Security number, Drivers License, Criminal Record, School Record, Cookies on your computer, settings on social media giving marketing departments all of your preferences.

            It’s easy to say you won’t and shouldn’t give up anything at all when you haven’t lost anything or had anything taken away from you. Let’s hope it stays that way so you never have to consider it. It makes theory that much easier to defend.
            http://news.yahoo.com/honduras-detains-five-syrians-heading-u-stolen-greek-195108906.html

          • Irish Sweetness

            They already took it Sac. Ref Snowden.

          • Sactowns#1

            That’s a BINGO!

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            fair point yet all or almost all of these dudes at one time or another are on someones radar. We just have to decide when we have enough credible info to disappear these scumbags. I think France is going to start doing it at a moments notice. Russia, same thing. USA will of course be farthest behind and we may wait until more bad things happen until we acknowledge the truth.
            I think you’re going to see a much shorter leash from our defense agencies when it comes to when action is taken to break up potential threats.
            It also helps to pulverize these camps where training takes place. I think you’re going to see guys get flagged the moment they leave the country if they are on a list already. I think a lot of guys are going to get flagged in Europe when they try to reenter the borders after being abroad or anywhere in the middle east.
            I think you’re going to see a lot of raids on a lot of houses and areas that police ALREADY know about as issues. There were 400 raids in France over the last 3 or 4 days. They didn’t just make up the targets of those raids, they already knew who and what they were going to go do.
            Eternal Vigilance will be needed….and more resources…and plenty of fucking bombs.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Can’t beat cells. Can’t beat Guerillas. Can’t do it. Unwinnable war.

          • Irish Sweetness

            This being the ONLY one ever, let’s keep things in perspective and not pretend that Paris has a history of being bombed. It doesn’t. That was the first time.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Let’s remember that some of those world leaders are fantastical murdering fucks.

          • DaMurph

            You didnt seem frightened when we met Sac! Bwahahaha!

          • Sactowns#1

            But but but… the government and media tell me I should be. I refuse to be terrorized. Isis can suck it and I chose to spend zero time and money on them.

          • Johnnywad

            You’re the crazy white guy with the gun aren’t you Murph?

          • DaMurph

            crazy OLD white guy! Hahaha!

          • Sactowns#1

            And we continue to bomb people with remote control planes, 95% of the casualties being innocent people. Maybe we should stop our own killings before we start talking about others.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            sorry man, this is going nowhere, 95%……come now, that’s silly talk.

          • Sactowns#1

            Here you go. A govt whistleblower leaked this last month. Upwards of 90% of people killed were not the intended target. You and I are paying to kill innocent people. https://theintercept.com/drone-papers

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            and on this note Sac, we should probably just talk about Brock Osweiler. At first you railed against republicans and conservatives, now it’s a huge gov’t conspiracy in the drone program run by YOUR guy yet you never explicity say his name. You pull two whack job websites out with information that would be BLASTED across the world by Al Jazeera and the BBC and every major outlet in America yet somehow this info is for your eyes only on your crazeball blog sites. I’m not a fan of the current administration but even I know this is bullshit and if it wasn’t it would be everyday news and people would be getting impeached and tried for war crimes.

          • Sactowns#1

            Google it. You’ll find the news of this leak in whatever news outlet you choose.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            http://news.yahoo.com/explosions-gunfire-paris-police-raid-063034320.html
            ANOTHER cell. ANOTHER suicide belt, not for fashion accessory but for soft target detonation. This just happened hours ago. SWAT got to them before they could pull anything off.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Who would be trying them for war crimes? Blair and Bush were guilty of war crimes, but because they were on the winning side, nobody gives a shit.Teh whole fucking war was illegal and un-sanctioned by the U.N.The military could care less about the United Nations rules and regs.

          • Sactowns#1
          • Irish Sweetness

            Good Kill – Ethan Hawke. Anyone catch that? Ethan makes good movies. He only chooses good stories. Plays a pilot that gets bumped down to drone remote-pilot.

          • Have you read this, Waffle? An ISIS mole gives the low-down on how they work. It’s gruesomely fascinating.

            http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/17/inside-isis-torture-brigades.html

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            sad

          • It’s sorta like if Ed Gein ran a country.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            Ed Gein was from Wisconsin. Just sayin

          • Irish Sweetness

            I can’t get my kids off the internet … hey …wait ….

        • Trac

          Yes great idea, give their kids laptops after they face the firing squad. It’s a brilliant compromise, no?

          • Sactowns#1

            They and their parents live their by tacit consent. It’s harsh and it sucks but they live in a society which foments this type of behavior. It will take some time but the flattening of the earth is rapidly occurring and soon things like this will be a distant memory.

      • MB30SD

        I would like to proceed in said manner, yes. Please.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Oh man, the French had NO tolerance for collaberators.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Remember ow the French “Action Service” was portrayed in the original DAY OF THE JACKAL…?

        Great movie.

        Michael Lonsdale, Edward Fox, Derek Jacobi, Alan Badel.

        Great cast.

        Minister (Badel): “How did you know whose (French Gov’t officials seated at the meeting) phone to tap?”
        Inspector Lebel (Lonsdale): “I didn’t. So I tapped all of them.”

        It may be time to pull THAT DVD off the shelf.

    • Trac

      For those in the know, “them” is a reference to insane murderous Muslim Islamic bastards.

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        downvote for an unnecessary explanation of MB’s comment.

        • Trac

          Thank you sir, I meant no disrespect to the gentleman across the Isle but only meant to assist any of the chillens watching this program.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            haha, just fucking, man i gotta get to work.

      • MB30SD

        Jes. I actually have 3 Muslim (non insane murderous types) friends/acquaintance, and they are wonderful people

  • Irish Sweetness

    On the Rams defense – they’re legit. I don’t think we face a soft defense.

    On Cutty being a different player?Absolutely. 100%. I never saw this Cutler before. He’s put it all together. He helps, nay carries this team. Before he would help you a bit, then kill you. The boy becometh the man, and all that …

    • Big Mike

      See 2006 (Denver), 2010, 2011, 2013. All off season I said cutler would come back to his average. He’s done a lot better than that to date. But last year was so f’d up it rightfully polluted people’s memories. It was the worst year of his career.

      You are right about the streak he is on now of not killing the team. He had the pick against GB in the opener that seemed to predict he was the same old Jay, but that one pick has proven to be an outlier.

  • BillW

    Regarding the fake punt – the Bears were ready for it a punt or two before then. Mentioned in another thread that Joniak/Thayer called the fact the Bears kept their D on the field on several punts. I doubt the TV announcers noticed.

    And I doubt Fischer noticed. They had a much better chance punting and hoping for Muff Mariani to do his thing.

    • I’m pretty sure the TV announcers said it too. And STL coaches damn well better have noticed, or they shouldn’t be NFL coaches.

      • BillW

        Well, if they ran a fake punt knowing the defense was on the field apparently ready for it, as opposed to kicking to a guy who already fumbled once –

        yeah, they shouldn’t be NFL coaches.

        • They won’t be after this season, at least not Fisher. Dude has only had like 6 winning seasons out of 20, but somehow keeps getting hired.

          Their DC unfortunately will probably get hired elsewhere cuz although he might be a dick and a douche, he still produces a quality D.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Or that defense to make a big play.

      They actually DID, getting a helmet on the ball on Carey’s final carry but, by then the horse had long since left the barn. Due in large part to that fake punt.

      The daily double: Horrible execution of a horrible call.

      I submit that the fake punt was the equivalent of Fisher hitting panic button.

  • Trac

    Jess Andrew, the Bears are that good. 11-5 or bust!

    That is all!

    • BillW

      I was afraid the narrative after a Bears upset would be “well, the Rams aren’t very good”. The same Rams team favored by 7 that was supposed to run all over us and unleash their top defense.

      I just never expected it from this blog.

      • Trac

        Remember, we live in a country that no longer has a 40 hour work week. Times are a changing.

        • BillW

          Rising teams have these games. We have one or two more in us yet.

          Rising teams also at times hit a bump in the road – often from “reading their press clippings”. There are trap games waiting – like SF.

          But I trust the coaching to keep it real.

          • Johnnywad

            Boy I don’t think its SF. If I had to guess I’d say Washington.

      • Big Mike

        It wasn’t a narrative. The quote was “Are we sure the Rams aren’t just terrible?”

        • AlbertInTucson

          Nick Foles performance won him a seat on the bench.

          • Big Mike

            It sure did. The Rams are/were very over rated. I just took a peak at who they’ve beaten and one of their wins is against a teams that used to be good, but isn’t this year. (Seattle), two teams that suck (Browns and 49ers) and one very impressive road win against AZ (24-22).

            You can make an argument that the offensive outburst, made the defense better by taking them out of their game plan and making them run, but that’s what good teams do. A credit to the defense for not shitting their pants (like they did last year) and getting off the field.

            All in all good win, arrow up.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Foles is the only problem with the Rams. I watched them beat Arizona ( I backed Arizona). If you beat Arizona, you’re a good team. I think Foles had a good enough day, the defense played well, and they had Gurley.

            Fangio deserves kudos for keeping Gurley to 44, but he’s an asshole when it comes to pressuring QBs.

          • Big Mike

            Fanfic an asshole when it comes to rushing the passer? You see what he’s working with

  • 505Bears

    Headed to Chicago tomorrow/game on Sunday. So is it better to get some drinks in at the bar then head to the field and in, or should we just grab a 12 pack and go over to the Southlot and try to mix in? My buddy is a Broncs fan, but is travelling from half way across the world, so maybe they give him a pass? haha…Any info would be cool

    • Big Mike

      Opposing team fans are always welcome in the Tailgate areas. Unless your friend is a too and runs around shouting anti-Bear stuff. 3 things to remember for your friend. Walter Payton is the greatest player ever and needs to be accorded the respect given to the Pope, your mom, grandmother etc, rolled into one. The 85 Bears were the greatest team ever. Last season should not be talked about, unless it is to say Trestman was to blame.

      If you have time check around for Bar to Game busses. Small flat flasks can be smuggled in. Fill with pure booze, buy soft drink mix to your liking at the game.

      Taking a piss, is a challenge. Timing it just after a score, before the extra point minimizes what you miss. Forget 1/2 time. When it’s cold and everyone is all wrapped up wearing long coats and blankets, I piss in a bottle under the blanket. It’s the only way not to miss too much.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “Listen to the voice of experience.”

      • 505Bears

        Right on Big Mike…Much appreciated. My buddy is chill. But he may get a bit pissed when the Bears start beating that ass!!

        • Big Mike

          He can sulk about getting beaten. The mood is generally good natured after a Bears win. After the game is certainly when there is a potential for a bad outcome. There are drunk stupid Bears fans, its not an epidemic, but they exist and they may cross paths with your friend. They will hurl borderline funny insults after a win. Best to just take it and say, you got us. After a Bears loss, your friend should enjoy it, agree with every Bears fan about any questionable calls, invoke the name of Walter Payton, give a Green Bay sucks yell and just not agitate. If it does go tits up, there are plenty of Bears’ fans who will intervene on your friends behalf to keep the peace. Bottom line, tone it down win or lose and don’t push back. Pre-game is much more easy going, than post game.

          In general this is good advice for any road fan. I’ve been on the road pulling for the Bears every where from GB to Houston, to Tampa, NC and DC. I’ve never had a problem. Although I do travel with a group where Big Mike is kind of funny because my buddies are all bigger. But we never agitate.

          • Johnnywad

            I watched the Bears play at Cleveland in I believe ’05. Walking from the Muni lot to the game with a simple Bears C baseball hat on, some asshole drops an unopened can of beer from the third level of a parking deck that hit the sidewalk a foot in front of me and burst all over everybody around me. Still think it would have crushed my skull had it hit the top of my head. Watch yourself in Cleveland. I’ll tuck my hat in my coat next time.

          • Big Mike

            Yeah, shit happens like that. I hate to hear about that. Sorry man. In the section where I sit most of the time (233) Media deck, we prevent that type of behavior collectively if we can. Especially walking out after a game. But you can’t stop stupid and drunk everywhere.

          • SC Dave

            Certainly has worked for me in Charlotte. It does help that the wrong team won both. Maybe i need to go to the tampa game… hmm.

      • Sactowns#1

        A Gatorade bottle or the like with a wide mouth is the preferred vessel.

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      If you want to hang with your buddy and just soak it in, go to Fado on Grand and Clark around 930 or 10am, get a nice Irish Breakfast in you, a cider or two on ice and a Powers whiskey on the rocks. it’s a 15 minute cab ride to the game but you’ll catch one instantly right outside the door since it’s a main street downtown. Tell them Kevin sent you and you’re from out of town. You will probably get your meal and drinks comp’d or at least a free round.
      If you want the tailgate experience. Grab a bottle of Jameson and a 12 pack and head into the fray in the parking lot right by the Planetarium. Walk up to a group that doesn’t have an elaborate spread with guys wearing Ray bans like a college baseball outfielder (they tend to be douches) and offer up the whiskey to hang for a bit. Most people are awesome.

      • 505Bears

        Right on. Definitely have to stop in at Fado. Hopefully I don’t say Kevin sent me and get mugged/jumped haha…Side note, is there a decent liquor store downtown area? Gonna be at the Hyatt off Michigan.

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          you’ll have to google that. I live on the south side of Chicago and could blindfold myself and probably walk directly into a liquor store

          • DaMurph

            Ill second that!

          • Johnnywad

            Tradewinds stealth radar…..

  • T’Challa

    Talking about politics and/or religion always bring animosity from my experience. Talking sports can get heated but not personal.

    • Scharfinator

      I follow the FORD and RAPE philosophies.

      You can talk about FORD
      Family
      Occupation
      Recreation
      Dreams

      You can’t talk about RAPE
      Religion
      I forget A
      Politics
      Ethics

      • The GP

        The A stand for Abe Vigoda.

        • Sactowns#1

          My votes for Africa. (the song not the continent)

      • It’s funny, cuz for me the most stimulating convos are about RAPE (?)

        But can’t have those with everyone. Some ppl take it too personally. Maybe cuz I took so many philo classes I can sorta discuss things dispassionately. Not saying I don’t feel strongly about positions, just don’t start calling ppl names and such.

        I think it’s extremely difficult to have such discussions over the internet because tone for the most part is absent, so everyone just assumes you’re screaming at them.

        Debating religion is somewhat pointless IMO. It’s IRRATIONAL, so how can you RATIONALLY persuade someone otherwise? So for religion I’m often more interested in HOW they became that. The process to me is utterly fascinating.

        A person’s ethics usually leads to their politics, but to a certain extent politics is somewhat murky because it’s not like math where there’s certain irrefutable facts or cause and effect.

        ethics can be more argued, but I come from a Humean perspective there, that it’s mainly based on an individual’s empathy, and that is highly subjective and again, can’t be overturned rationally (or through rational discussion).

        So while RAPE is fun, invigorating and insightful, the parties usually part with the same beliefs they began with.

        • Scharfinator

          I think RAPE is probably a better (and more entertaining) choice with friends. Usually I follow the aforementioned rules when mingling with new people or boundary friends.

          • T’Challa

            A has to be for Anal sex.

          • Johnnywad

            C’mon T…..who doesn’t like to talk about that?

          • T’Challa

            If… a good woman wants to talk about that on the 1st date, she might be marriage material.

        • BillW

          I avoid talking religion much more often than I avoid talking politics. I can learn (usually) from talking politics. Not much to learn at all talking religion.

        • DocNitty Ellipsoids Ornamental

          Man, if somebody just read your last line? “Holy shit, what did I walk into” -they’d think.

        • SC Dave

          Damn Butch, i think id like to subscribe to your newsletter. Or better, get drunk in chicago

      • BillW

        Apple vs Android

      • T’Challa

        What if one’s family occupation was religion and politics? 🙂

      • BillW

        So I googled it since I never heard this and liked it; it looks to be more about what to talk about / not talk about on a first date. But seems like good advice many times.

        The A is Abortion.

        The E seems split between Ethics and Economics.

        • Scharfinator

          Seems like solid advice with random new people you meet too.

        • T’Challa

          So, maybe we can consider this our first date?

          But when it came to first dates, I always thought talking about sex was a no no. And it didn’t even make the list.

        • SC Dave

          NEVER discuss abortion with a woman until you know whether she has had one.

          Trust me on this, if nothing else i had ever posted here

      • SC Dave

        I’ll go with Apathy. Truly no fun for talking about

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Jeff Fisher. Trailing 27-13, he elected to attempt a fake punt on fourth-and-seven at their own 23.”

    Shades of Abe Gibron!

    • The GP

      That was a stupid call. Nate Silver at 538 would hate that call.

      • Scharfinator

        Yeah, what the fuck were they doing? Put a man in motion then run a fake?

        Could you tip us off any more clearly?

        • BillW

          Next they will kick a FG on 2nd down.

        • CanadaBear

          When the guy went in motion I honestly thought it wasn’t a fake punt, it was just another play on 4th down. That’s the worst ST’s play I’ve seen this year other than that stupid Colts play with a 2-man line.

  • AlbertInTucson

    ‘”And, come on, the dude’s name is Brock Osweiler, there’s no way he’s going to be good.”

    Careful, Andrew.

    Some of remember the less-than-immortal, Don Horn, having the game of his life in Wrigley Field
    to beat the Bears on the last day of the ’68 season and keep them out of the playoffs.

    • AlbertInTucson

      On the other hand, Fox knows what the Broncos have in Osweiler.

      • Johnnywad

        Late vintage Bears have made the Osweilers of the world look like Pro Bowlers when they come to town. Here’s hoping those days are behind us.

        • SC Dave

          NO shit

    • BillW

      NO!!! Do NOT do that to me!

      I was actually talking about that game over the weekend. I was there with my uncle. What a heartbreak. And then the 69 Cubs the next year. And then 1-13. Dark dark sports days.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I listened to the game on the radio in my bedroom. You could hear “Muggs” Halas (George, Jr.) slam something against the wall of the press box after a late Jack Concannon pass, that would have given Mac Percival a shot to win it, was JUST incomplete.

        • BillW

          I was so excited going to that game given we were going to beat the Packers and go to the playoffs. I really can’t imagine I ever saw a more disappointing game since then. Well, maybe the Todd Collins NFCC – again v Packers.

          I was at the game they beat the Vikes on a long (at that time) game winning FG by Percival.

          But not at the Kermit Alexander game. My dad was very distraught that day when he got home.

          • SC Dave

            The loss at home to gb for the Halas was the worst game ever

          • CanadaBear

            The SB loss was right up there.

          • SC Dave

            My wife Laurel died five days before Super Bowl XLI, so the loss hardly registered.

            I sure could have used the win at that time. But it’s really more about an opportunity for joy lost than a heartbreak.

            Nevertheless, I’ll always feel I owe one to Devin for the insane thrill of that KR to start the game. It felt a gift she sent. Still does, I guess.

          • BillW

            Just catching up before I go to bed. I know it’s been some years now and maybe you’ve mentioned it on the board before. You’ll always miss her but I hope the pain is somewhat less now.

            Peace

    • Sactowns#1

      Some of us remember Tim Tebow being put in the game a few years back and we all thought “this dude is a schlub”. And then the Broncos beat us. I want revenge for that game!!

      • AlbertInTucson

        Marion Barber III’s swan song.

        • You’re our default historian, Al.

          Was there a series of stupider plays by one bear than that?

          • Big Mike

            Every play that Caleb Hanie made?

          • Johnnywad

            I submit that Hanie is better and smarter than Clausen.

          • No. Clausen at least avoids excessive turnovers. Clausen is fairly smart, just worthless. He’s a very poor man’s Alex Smith.
            Hanie was a turnover machine.

          • Johnnywad

            Very poor man indeed.

          • Trac

            Do you think it’s fair for a team to be pragmatic when it comes to the backup qb?

            I’ve gotta believe there’s a better backup than Collins somewhere. I get that the odds of a backup taking a team to the dance are slim but Collins is gawd awful.

          • Johnnywad

            The Bears thought it was Jason Campbell. How’d that work out?

          • AlbertInTucson

            ‘Better Backup”.

            Like unicorns, VERY hard to find at QB.

            Heck, too many teams don’t have a solid #1 let alone a good backup.

            Colts had a decent one in Hasselbeck but now he has to start at 40 and HIS health is iffy.

          • Hainie looked like a squirrel out there.
            Watching him was like doing a hit of coke, and not in a good way.

          • Big Mike

            You would be wrong. I had the poor fortune of having tickets to 2 of the 4 games he played in the season he was Cutler’s backup. There are HS quarterbacks that could read the field and spot the wide open man better than him. I submit that Hanie is to Bears QBs what Trestman is to Bears coaches.

          • Johnnywad

            If Hanie is Trestman, which coach goes with Henry Burris?

          • Big Mike

            Jim Dooley

          • AlbertInTucson

            Is this a good spot for a Moses Moreno reference?

          • Johnnywad

            His claim to fame being that he once replaced an ineffective Ryan Leaf. (I had to Google him Al)

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Ineffective Ryan Leaf.”

            Redundant phrase, no?

          • Johnnywad

            It is. He was however, more effective than our boy Moses. 1 TD and 2 INTs. Those are his career stats.

          • Sactowns#1

            Oh man I remember how pumped we were for the Raiders game in 2011 after were heard all this talk about how good our backup QB was going to be. He sucked.

          • AlbertInTucson

            More mobile for sure. (Insert “Statue” or “Rock of Gibralter” mobility jokes here).

          • AlbertInTucson

            Hanie was serviceable in that Denver game. It should have been a W.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Barber went out of bound stopping the clock and gave the Broncos JUST enough time to tie with a LONG FG.

            Then, in OT, he punctuated a nice run into Robbie range with a fumble and the Broncos went on from there to win it.

    • AlbertInTucson

      And Horn was a rookie.

  • beninnorcal

    I remember watching Osweiler at ASU. Pretty good qb in college. I think he’s too tall though, pretty sure he’s 6’8″. Last 6’8″ qb I can remember was Dan Mcguire, he wasn’t too good. Maybe Brock will be good, who knows?

    • AlbertInTucson

      He IS a big ‘un.

  • The GP

    Another week, another not getting a single player from the waiver wire in Butch’s league. Whine Whine whine and cheese.

    • I didn’t get shit either. 🙁

    • Trac

      Yeah man, whoever CHI is, they keep beating me to the guys I select. It’s a problem.

      • haha. He’s on top of it. That be Fres. And as long as his record is suckier, he’ll always have priority.

        Where is Fres anyways?

        • Trac

          I figured.

  • Sactowns#1

    Woah. Bears opened up as +3 home dogs and now they are -1.5 favorites. That’s a 4.5 point swing. That’s HUGE.

    • Don’t the REAL gamblers, the smarter ones, usually bet later?

      • Sactowns#1

        This swing is most likely due to REAL gamblers pounding the Bears and Vegas having to push the points to encourage more people to bet on Denver.

    • willbest

      When did it open? Had Manning been officially ruled out? Would have been nice to get +3

      • Irish Sweetness

        The Broncs should come IN in price if Manning is out.

    • Irish Sweetness

      My bastard site left the game off the book for days and opened with Bears -1.5. And they pushed the Cards from -3 to -5 !

  • Sactowns#1

    Sad day. RIP to a big, big man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsXTa7UCGlk

    • Scharfinator

      Damn, his thighs are like Christmas hams. Holy shit.

      • Sactowns#1

        You must be rich because the hams I buy are nowhere near that big. lol

      • Johnnywad

        Mmmmmmmmmm. Christmas hams… My favorite. Honey Baked spiral cut.

    • DocNitty Ellipsoids Ornamental

      Okay, so I don’t know much about Rugby, but seeing that video, I realized two things.

      1. That dude was a stud (how’d he die?)

      2. Football is the more violent sport. How many arm tackles were there on every play? In football, where you have pads, the tackles are far more violent in my opinion. Then again, that guy was clearly a man amongst boys out there. So maybe they just arm tackled HIM.

      • I agree. And I would add a 3rd. Rugby plays aren’t as EXPLOSIVE, or exciting as football.

        That dude looks like the Bo Jackson of Rugby, but I’d still prefer watching Bo Jackson highlights.

        When a rugby player does this, maybe we can talk.

        http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/0ap3000000580101/Can-t-Miss-Play-Brown-flips-into-the-end-zone

        • Irish Sweetness

          Except he was a behemoth Bo Jackson!

      • MB30SD

        You guys have never watched a rugby match from the sidelines. You have no idea. I wouldn’t step on a rugby field for money… and I looooved playing football

        (I’m too pretty to play rugby)

        • Returning punts is pretty scary. You’re just looking up in the air knowing 11 big-fast angry men are sprinting full speed down field to kill you.

        • Trac

          I played when I was a pup. There was not a game, scrimmage or practice that I did not see stars. It’s brutal.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Nobody wanted to tackle him, so they went for his legs. He was 6’5 and 18 stone so that doesn’t work.

        • DocNitty Ellipsoids Ornamental

          Damn. 15 stone myself.

      • SC Dave

        I realize he is dead before his 41st birthday. Connected? Probably not, not people involved in violent sports do not (anecdotally) tend to live past the mean.

  • • The Bears defensive line hasn’t gotten enough credit for keeping Todd
    Gurley in check. I found it interesting that they played Jarvis Jenkins
    almost strictly as a pass-rusher – only eight snaps against the run, He
    was replaced by Mitch Urein and Bruce Gaston.

    And this is why Fangio is the man. If you’d have told me that dudes named Urein, Gaston and Jenkins would be holding stud HBs in check in PS, I would’ve responded, “Who?”

  • BearDown100393

    Doug Flutie’s parents die on the same day within an hour, both heart attacks. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14163864/former-nfl-quarterback-doug-flutie-parents-die-same-day

    • That’s awful. I can’t imagine how I would feel if that happened to my parents.

    • willbest
    • Trac

      If they were my folks, I’d find that somewhat comforting in the sense that neither one of them would have to be alone for their last days. In a way, I see that as a blessing.

      • CanadaBear

        Kinda depends on their age and health. Both of my parents died from heart attacks. Sucks at the time because it’s so shocking but once that wears off, you feel good knowing they didn’t suffer for long. We’ve all lost someone to cancer and seeing that up close is hideous.

    • AlbertInTucson

      That is one tough row to hoe.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    interesting note: Osweiler’s birthday is Sunday…

    • MB30SD

      Happy birthday motherfucker, enjoy your first starting loss

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        We’ll bring in the closer for a few plays and seal the deal.

        • Bender McLugh

          Houston?

    • SC Dave

      Spike his cake!

  • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

    I got nothing done today Sac you bastard. I have to do some work instead of blogging all day about global terrorism on Da Bears Blog. I have committed myself to working at my actual job tomorrow.

    • SC Dave

      Actually, I’m with Sac in a number of ways. Most particularly the way the propaganda masters work the public fears to the vast profits of the military-industrial complex.

      Eisenhower told us about this before almost all of you were born, and certainly before I was able to understand it.

      Daesh is, for the most part, an American creation. You cannot bomb people for 70 years all around the world and not expect repercussions for your folly.

      The worst of it, by far IMO, is the fact that *our* government has sent two or three generations of brave American volunteers to serve and fight – in conflicts for which that very same government has been unwilling or unable (irrelevant which it actually is) to articulate the conditions of victory that lets them come home.

      This is amoral. Or if one attributes morals to it, evil.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Ike, yes indeed. 1961. Nobody listened.

  • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

    haha, one final vignette if you don’t mind. Imagine a meeting with various global leaders as they discuss their positions regarding a global coalition to stamp out ISIS and the impact of such a group on the safety of the world moving forward.

    President Hollande (France) – “Friday’s acts of war were decided and planned in Syria…organized in Belgium…perpetrated…with one specific goal: to sow fear and to divide us…Syria has become the biggest factory of terrorism the world has ever known and the international community is still too divided and too incoherent.”

    President Rouhani (Iran)…(yes, IRAN!) – We must band together to stamp out ISIS.
    President Putin (Russia) – we will cooperate with France against ISIS as Allies.
    President Obama (USA) – We will stand with our French brothers in this fight against ISIS. We welcome Russia’s involvement in the fight against ISIS.
    Sac#1BearsFan – naw, we’re good. Just drop some HP’s and Dell’s on those motherfuckers and let the earth flatten itself out playa. I ain’t sweatin ISIS.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      to be fair to Sac, if we drop enough old pc’s on them we are bound to hit and kill a couple of those ISIS bastards. not saying it’s the best solution but imagine getting hit by a monitor dropped from 30,000 ft.

      • Shady

        Judgement day. Skynet becomes self aware. I, for one, look forward to our new robot overlords.

        • MB30SD

          Jesus, you are so risty. Get back in here and work on your game. Smh

      • Irish Sweetness

        Round up all the old models and use them. Those monitors are lethal from 20,000 feet. External disk drives could be used like cluster bombs. Atari joysticks could be used like shrapnel. There’s millions of E.T. cartridges still lying around, you could spray them like bullets from the heavens.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          from my memory Atari joysticks are nearly indestructible they might be able to take out a vehicle from 20,000 feet.

          • EnderWiggin

            Oh, they are destructible.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i must not have been as hard on them, we had cords fray but that was about it. and remember beating the crap out of them when i lost a game.

  • Shady

    Is it or is it not possible for Chris Long to have provided info to his brother Kyle which could have helped the Bears win last Sunday?

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      Irish?

      • The GP

        The Longs are part of the Rothchild family, so it all makes sense.

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          yesssssss

          • Irish Sweetness

            Mira! Yo no estoy comiendo ….

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’ve just eaten. I’m not taking the bait.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      for a second i thought the same thing might have happened with the Bennett Bros in the Seattle game, but then i remembered Pickles was QB then so really did not need insider info.

    • Johnnywad

      Howie’s boys don’t go that road

  • AlbertInTucson

    Packers have Rodgers on their injury list (Shoulder)>

    Great excuse for his less-than-all-world play,I know, but he has been battered all year.

    Those hits add up.

    Social media is blaming the GF.

  • MB30SD
  • AlbertInTucson

    Ever hear of Larry Rakestraw?

    He was a Bear QB in the late 1960s.

    In 1967, he threw for 3 TDs and ran for 2 more in a 34-7 spanking of the Giants in NY.

    That’s a game I do NOT remember but I attended 2 games at Wrigley that season.

    • BillW

      Al, what did I do to you? Why are you bringing up all these bad memories?

      Who’s next? Frank Cornish?

      • SC Dave

        Stop

      • AlbertInTucson

        Man, I had forgotten all about Frank Cornish! What LOAD he was.

  • Irish Sweetness

    So, when Matty is healthy … um …. does he get his job back?

    We know he’s not exactly done, but Langford was the #1 scorer in FF last week. The dude has wheels.

    Can we afford to just bench that?

  • The GP
  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    new thread

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