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A Few Random Thoughts During an NFL Slow Period

| March 24th, 2015

wiz

Thought #1. Bears should meet the $4M a year demand for Stefan Wisniewski. Per a report from Brad Biggs in the Tribune:

Wisniewski is recovering from shoulder surgery after last season when he played with a torn labrum. The former second-round pick of the Raiders has made visits to the Seahawks and Bucs, and the Rams and Chiefs are also known to be interested. No team has been willing to meet his request of $4 million per season and it could be he winds up on a one- or two-year prove-it contract. At this point, it would be a mistake to rule out the Bears.

Wisniewski is young and talented and the kind of physical presence needed to anchor a John Fox offensive line. An interior offensive line of Slauson-Wiz-Long would set a new tone on the that side of the ball.

Thought #2. Jarvis Jenkins and Mason Foster are smart, short-term solutions on defense. No, neither of these players is going to the Pro Bowl. No, neither of these players are going to make Bears fans forget Dan Hampton or Dick Butkus. But they would be a solid, professional additions to a defensive unit desperate for such. (I’m assuming Mason Foster ultimately ends up in Chicago.)

Thought #3. Enough with Brian Urlacher. Why is it every time this guy talks the Chicago media rush to print every word? Does anybody actually care anymore? Urlacher has seemingly done the impossible: made a fan base that loved him unconditionally find conditions.

Thought #4. Every human being should spend a weekend in New Orleans. That is, unless you don’t like food, drink and fun. If you don’t like any of those three things you should go to Detroit instead.

Thought #5. Presented without Comment: I think Jay Cutler is about to have a big season in Chicago. Okay, a few comments. (A) I think the Bears are going to become a 65-35 run team. (B) I think the Eddie Royal acquisition signals a commitment to a low-risk/high-reward passing game that will ask less of Cutler mentally. (C) I think Cutler fully understands that 2015 may be his last season as a starting quarterback in the NFL if he does not limit his turnovers. That has never been the case before. (D) Adam Gase wants to be an NFL head coach and he knows a productive Cutler 2015 guarantees him a head gig in 2016.

Thought #6. Are we sure Iowa tackle Brandon Scherff shouldn’t be the Bears selection with the seventh pick? I’ve watched a lot of Scherff on tape. He’s a top NFL tackle.

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  • jimmychange

    I’ve been saying for a couple seasons now that O-line is still a big issue. Bushrod and Mills are below- average, if not a garbage tandem at Tackle. Scherff has the highest floor of any prospect in the draft. The new brass would be foolish not consider him at 7.

    • GPLDAN

      Line up Bushrod’s grades per game over the last two seasons and then double down on the term “garbage”.

      Go for it.

      • Sactowns#1

        We certainly need help at O-line but the guys are far from garbage. It’s not like we’re lining up Orlando Pace out there.

        • RT was hot garbage last year. So was LT after Bushrod got hurt (he was not even close to the same player post-injury).
          I still think Bushrod is a competent LT. Not good, but competent. If you have a strong RT and can roll help to Bushrod’s side, your OL should be solid.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i will take competent after years of dog shit like Webb

          • Big Mike

            Bushrod was never fully recovered. Wasn’t Mills also banged up all year? I guess that’s par for the course, but they were lower body injuries which impacts Tackles pretty substantially.

          • yeah, injuries definitely played a huge role for Bushrod, and Mills was never healthy. Still, Mills wasn’t great as a rookie either. I’m fine with Mills competing for a job, but don’t want to hand it to him.

          • Big Mike

            Exactly. The mystery is do you push long on to Tackle? personally, I like the idea of Slauson, Wisniewski (Sp) and Long on the inside.

          • T’Challa

            I like that trio but I am of the belief that your best OL should be an OT. Move Long to RT or LT if he can handle it.

          • Big Mike

            You weaken two spots, right off the bat.

          • T’Challa

            I respectfully disagree. Long would be a big improvement over Mills at OT. Mills would be a better RG than RT in my opinion because being in a phone booth would be better for him.

          • Big Mike

            Right now we have a Pro-Bowl Right Guard. Mills won’t be that. Whether or not Long is better than Mills at RT, while likely, remains to be seen. With that said, I’ve reconsidered my position.

            Kyle could become a top flight tackle and those guys are a rare breed. If they can convert him the Bears would be in great shape. Now is the time to experiment with that since the Bears aren’t close to winning anything anyhow.

          • T’Challa

            Agreed!

          • T’Challa

            I am still curious to see what Mills can do at RG. I think it would be a better position for him due to him not being on an island as when he plays RT.

  • Sactowns#1

    First to say I’ll be in NOLA end of next month for Jazz fest. John Legend and Juvenile! I would see Tony Bennett but not with Gaga.

    • Cormonster

      I would love to go to Jazz Fest sometime, but it’s always during my busy season. Have fun. Gov’t Mule always plays at the Saenger Theater with a bunch of guest musicians. They’ve had some legendary shows at Jazz Fest. Here’s a setlist with guests for the show last year.

      http://mule.net/road/saenger-theatre-4/

  • Sactowns#1

    Oh and btw for all you lucky folks living in Chicago http://www.bandsintown.com/LeonBridges

  • Big Mike
  • AlbertInTucson

    “…he played with a torn labrum.”

    VERY manly.

    • Doc Hamstring

      That’s better than playing with a torn labia.

      • Scharfinator

        Very not manly.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Should we assume that you would know?

  • GPLDAN

    Told many people at the time Bears had zero interest in Rex Ryan. If they’d called he would have walked to Chicago for the gig. Dream job.

    I think we can all agree that Fangio is a net plus at DC over Ryan.

    • Big Mike

      He’s bringing in a pipeline of talent with his connections. Guys that want to play for him. Happy to see that.

  • John Doe

    So just like that Pace signed 2 starting 3-4 DEs. And now if he can sign Foster, Wisniewski and Dashon Goldson, it will be a very good free agency.

    • T’Challa

      I would not mind if the Bears traded T. Jennings for Goldson if the Bucs are wanting something in return for him.

  • Re: #6… I am intrigued by Scherff. Not sure if he makes it as an OT, but at worst he’ll be a great OG. And I LOVE the attitude he plays with.

    • NewBearInTown

      There are a few teams that are very good right now because they “overdrafted” offensive linemen for a few years. The Niners did that to set up Harbaugh’s early success. The Cowboys did it to help create last year’s monster run game.
      Taking Scherff at #7 is theoretically overdrafting, but its hard to argue with having a great offensive line. Building on Slauson and Long with Scherff and maybe also this Wisniewski guy is definitely one way to create a position of strength.

      • Irish Sweetness

        If Long moves out to RT it’s not over-drafting …. it might be over-paying for a guard. But if the guy is solid for ten years, then that side of the line will be solid once we get a center. Can we afford to pass up those p-rushers though? Can we not just draft a guard to play guard, or is this guy really that special?

    • John Doe

      Scherff projects as a guard in the NFL and so #7 will be too rich for him.

      But Pace comes from Saints where he trained under GM Loomis. Loomis has never picked OL in earlier rounds in more than 12 years. I don’t think Pace will be picking OL.

      Plus, look at Packers. They picked their LT in round 4 and put him in starting lineup right in his rookie year in game 1 and giving the tough assignment of protecting Aaron Rodgers’ blind side. He has done well. You don’t need to spend high picks on OL. Need good coaching though.

      Instead, pick Trae Waynes at #7 a lockdown corner. With defensive additions upfront a corner combo of Fuller and Waynes will turn the defense around into a top 15 unit in 2015.

      • you don’t NEED to spend high picks on any position. Tom Brady was a 6th round pick; QBs still get drafted highly. Richard Sherman was a 5th round pick; CBs still get drafted highly.
        I don’t give a damn about what position they draft at #7 (with the exception of FB, K, and P). Just draft somebody who will be a good player for the Bears for a decade and I’ll be happy.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          i was really looking forward to a stud FB at #7

          • Big Mike

            He’ll be there in the 3rd round, probably 4th round. Or as an UDFA.

          • I absolutely love Jalston Fowler as a FB, but doubt Chicago drafts him. Pace hasn’t used a FB in the past. Prefers single back sets with 2 TEs.

          • willbest

            I would draft a FB #7 if he could plow a hole through a concrete wall.

      • NewBearInTown

        If I am not mistaken, the sum total of the argument that Scherff has to play guard is that his arms are short.
        And the idea that picking O-line (or any other position) in the first round doesn’t help has been disproven over and over again. There are great players all over the draft, but the first round gives the highest percentage chance for success.

        • Irish Sweetness

          An obscene amount of pro-bowlers are first-rounders, can’t remember the percentage.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        yes we should never draft an OL in the first round. I mean look how terrible all those 1st round Olinemen are. I really feel sorry for Dallas and the three 1st rounders spent on their horrendous line. oh wait…..

        • John Doe

          surprise..teams have different philosophies..

          A bunch of first round picks is not the only way to build a very good OL. Many teams have showed this.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            you are right you don’t have to spend 1st round picks to get a good line but to say someone won’t draft a OL in the first round because the GM he trained under didn’t is ridiculous. If your team needs OL help, and if the best player available is an OLineman then you take the olineman, if not you pick someone else.

            I am with JWood, I don’t care what position they draft at #7 just give me someone that will lock down a position for a decade.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Correct. I always use the KC Chiefs case for the OL. They went from worst to first a few years ago through scheming, not personnel change.

  • Re #5: Looked at the relationship between a bunch of factors and Bears’ success with Cutler under C. Basically, data says Bears should run the ball and have a good defense. Shocking, right? So I agree with what Jeff is saying here.

    http://dabearsbeat.com/2015/03/24/how-can-the-bears-win-with-jay-cutler/

    • John Doe

      If you are running the ball and absolutely must have a good defense, why do you still justify giving $126 million contract to the QB? He doesn’t deserve it. time for you to admit it.

      • read the conclusions section of that article. I’ll help… here’s the last two paragraphs:

        “One logical question that can be raised in response to this conclusion is whether Cutler’s contract is too financially cumbersome for the Bears to build a quality defense. While Cutler’s contract is in line with the quarterback market around the NFL, this is a fair question to ask. Quarterbacks, especially mid-tier quarterbacks, making as much money as Cutler does are a relatively new occurrence, and early evidence indicates that these salaries may in fact be too cost prohibitive to build a championship-caliber roster around.

        Based on that fact alone, I think looking for Cutler’s eventual replacement in one of the next two drafts is an excellent idea. A solid quarterback on a rookie contract is the biggest bargain in the NFL, and acquiring one in the near future needs to be Ryan Pace’s top priority. In the meantime, the good news for Bears fans is this: the Bears have won with Jay Cutler before, and there is a clear blueprint they can follow to do it again.”

        • John Doe

          No need to read anything. If Bears are going to run the ball and rely on a good defense, Jay Cutler should not be on this team at $15.5 million for 2015.

          • That’s what the Cowboys did last year. Should they trade Tony Romo, who’s making far more than Jay Cutler?

            Should the Seahawks dump Russel Wilson instead of giving him a contract that will pay him more than Cutler?

            Guess the Ravens should dump Joe Flacco too. And the Bengals with Andy Dalton. 49ers with Kaepernick. Cardinals with Carson Palmer. Chiefs with Alex Smith.

          • GPLDAN
          • Scott W.

            I’m just assuming John Doe is the long haired guy in the bar…

          • Big Mike

            Get over it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Our only way forward of actual change would come from his excision. The salary, the attached draft pick etc. I was hoping for new management who would have the balls to clean house and rebuild properly. Instead it looks like they’re hedging their bets on Cutler and are still very much in the win-now mode. Disappointing, because we’re going to turn the ball over a lot, and ultimately nothing will have changed. Lipstick on the old pig.

        • Scott W.

          I agree we need to be on the lookout for his replacement.
          Good piece and well-written, btw.
          I’ll start directing my article requests your way, Jonathan.

          • please do! Running low on ideas. Always an issue in the offseason. Loved the dead money/team success idea I got from here last week. That ones in the queue now for sometime this week or next.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          wow what an idea reading a full article. i guess it is probably hard for someone that rarely reads more than 140 characters at a time.

          • Scott W.

            Much easier than having an original thought.

    • NewBearInTown

      Saw the article on QB salaries also. Well done Data.
      I think the ultimate conclusion is sound. We can win with Cutler’s contract, but we are likely overpaying. It will help the team in the long term to start looking for a replacement.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I can’t be having this “Cutler’s contract says we can win …” talk. Eyeball test. Is he accurate, good, trustworthy, a winner ? In these respects he has already been measured, and he has been found wanting. He should be a Titan now, and we should have a handful of top picks this year. Instead, we have the same old Jay.

        It appears Fox/Pace’s attitude is that the problem with Jay is the defense. Hmmmm.

  • Doc Hamstring

    New Orleans is a pit. The food is borderline disgusting–especially if you can’t eat shellfish–and the “entertainment” is drinking overpriced booze in overpriced dives, or watching stupid drunks do stupid stuff.

    • Scharfinator

      Sounds like a good time. Once.

    • GPLDAN
    • Big Mike

      The music is sensational. Drive 15 minutes from Bourbon street and find some authentic Cajun food. Hop into a parade, if you are feeling festive. Laissez les bons temps rouler

    • BearDown100393

      “Stupid drunks do stupid stuff” – Sounds more like Wrigley Field.

      • Scott W.

        …and Philly, SF, Oakland…

        • BearDown100393

          AKA towns where Wrigley drunks lam it.

  • I think I’d still love to see the Bears grab a C like Andy Gallik in round 4 or 5 of the draft instead of paying $4M+ a year for one, but I do like Wisniewski.

  • John Doe

    IMO players deserving of #7 spot:

    1. Leonard Williams
    2. Vic Beasley
    3. Marcus Mariota
    4. Amari Cooper
    5. Trae Waynes

    Trade back to #13-18 range and the following players
    Danny Shelton
    Marcus Peters
    Devante Parker
    Bud Dupree

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Where is Fowler?

    • GPLDAN
      • GPLDAN

        It’s going to come down to Cooper, Waynes or Shelton.

        And Fangio will take Shelton.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          I really like Shelton especially in a rotation with Rat and Ferguson. You can never have enough guys bringing heat up the middle and Rat hasn’t played a full season since 2011.

          • John Doe

            I think they have done enough now on the front 7. Corner position is a real weakness in a division with Rodgers and his receivers and Stafford and his receivers.

            Fuller is only legit corner right now. Glaring need.

            Need a big fat NT or another DE/DT guy.. You can get them in rounds 4-5 and develop them.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Nate Vasher (4th round) was a pro-bowl corner when the Bears had an elite front 7. Richard Sherman is an elite cover corner and was a 5th rounder.

          • John Doe

            Bears need a starter at Corner. You only get them in first round.

            Plus, NT is much easier position to teach than CB.

          • no, you do not only get starting CBs in the 1st round. In fact, you can find quality starters at literally every single position outside of the 1st round, though QB is probably the hardest.

            In 2013, 5/10 Pro Bowl CBs were drafted in rd 1. Average draft round of 2.6. http://dabearsbeat.com/2014/02/14/where-were-impact-players-drafted-pro-bowl/

            In 2013, 4 out of PFF’s top 10 CBs were drafted in round 1. Average draft round of 3.9. http://dabearsbeat.com/2014/02/17/where-were-impact-players-drafted-profootballfocus/

            So no more than half of the best CBs in the game-not even starters, but the very best-were 1st round picks. The idea that you can only find those players in the 1st round is 100% BS.

          • John Doe

            This is getting silly..

            Talking higher probabilities here.

            People have run the numbers..you get better players in the first round. You want a CB to start week 1, the chances of finding that CB are higher in round 1.

            Of course, you can also start a UDFA like Al Louis Jean if you want and claim you can find starters in any round.

          • yes, you tend to get better players in the first round. That’s not what you said though.

          • John Doe

            Ok. whatever.

          • not to mention the Bears could be ok with a duo of Fuller/Jennings, though they definitely don’t have anybody I’d trust at NB right now.

            But this team has needs all over, so I’m pretty much fine with them just grabbing a guy they think is good for every pick rather than worrying about “I have to grab this position here.”

          • Scott W.

            There is no round that’s bullet-proof (I know you aren’t saying round 1 is), but much as I want Mariota to be our long-term solution at QB for example, I also know he’s a risky pick.
            All of them are. Injuries, bad coaching, bad team mates, on the list goes. It’s better than round 7, but 2-6 is a much better gamble I would think.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “There is no round that’s bullet-proof”.

            Especially if you’ve followed the Bears for any length of time.

          • Scott W.

            See Benson, Cedric…

          • Jerry Angleo in round 1 was atrocious. Absolutely atrocious. Tommie Harris and Greg Olsen were his only even competent picks.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            And he traded one of them.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Justin Gilbert, Dee Milliner and Mo Claiborne piss all over your point.

          • John Doe

            High probability does not equal a sure thing..

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            See Data’s Pro Bowl CB stats above. You can get them later, it’s a deep CB class. If Trae Waynes is the highest rated player on their board when it’s time to pick then take him. If not, don’t reach because you need a CB.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Sorry Woodsy, but if half of your pro bowl CBs are drafted in the first round, then that means that’s where they’re found. It does not follow as a corollary that you can just draft half of them from elsewhere and still have the same chance of making the pro bowl with them.

          • better chance, definitely. But that’s a far cry from saying that’s the ONLY spot to get them, which was the original claim.

            You have a better chance at a good player in round 1 at any position. Then 2-3 are about the same, and it drops off after that.

          • Scott W.

            What? You can only get them in the first round???
            No.
            Crimminy.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            So let me get this straight, you can only get a starting CB in 1st round and OLine guys should not be drafted in 1st round. I think you should fill us in on the rest of your extremely unique draft strategy. i had a bad day so i could use a laugh.

          • Irish Sweetness

            If we’re not rushing to have tea on the White House lawn, then we really should be drafting a CB/DL/LB in the first round.

          • A pick in the top 10 is a pick with 10 years in mind, not one. Name every Bear you’re confident will be starting for them 3 years from now.
            I say Fuller, Long, Jeffery. Tthere’s not a single position they have completely locked down for even the next 3 years, so I don’t look too much at current “needs” when trying to figure out who the Bears should take at 7. Just get a guy who can play and be part of your core going forward.

          • Irish Sweetness

            “A pick in the top 10 is a pick with 10 years in mind, not one.”

            That’s a fair way of looking at it, which makes Sherff an easy pick.

          • Irish Sweetness

            (Sits up)

            We have a linebacking corps?

  • beninnorcal

    Is Jeff saying we brought in Ray McDonald on Twitter right now or is he just posing it as a question?

  • beninnorcal

    Thanks J. Wood. Next question: Does he have any pending disciplinary actions still headed his way?

    • AlbertInTucson

      NFL Radio only mentioned that HE is now suing HER for defamation.

    • not that I’ve heard. No charges being filed against him from any of the 3 incidents involving the police last year.

      • John Doe

        Michael C. Wright @mikecwright · 14m14 minutes ago
        We know McDonald hasn’t been charged w/anything. But NFL spokesman @gregaiello did say “matter is under review” re: potential disciplne.

        • hadn’t seen that. Good call.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Just make a large % of his overall comp weekly roster bonuses like DAL did with Hardy.

  • BearDown100393

    Define “big season” for #6. Measured by wins? Touch downs? Yardage? QB rating? Cutty down on turn overs? Rah Rah speeches? Caring? Hmmmm…..

    • John Doe

      “I think Jay Cutler is about to have a big season in Chicago.”

      We have heard this preseason talk every damn year Jake has been year.

      He is going to have a big year.. this is the year he is going to put it all together..

      And he ends up leading the league in INTs or some other sad statistic.

      Rinse and repeat every year.

      • BillW

        You beat me to it. Jeff – how many “last comments” on Cutler are you going to type. You (and others) STILL hope THIS TIME it will be different. The “crazy hot girl that every guy thinks he can fix” analogy rises again!

        Cutler will not have a big year. He will have perhaps an above average year at best, and only because they take the ball out of his hands.

        Fox may wish they cut him by mid season after he gets sick of all the questions the media throws at him about one player.

        • John Doe

          Oh the delicious irony.. make Jake Cutler better by not letting him throw the ball!!!

          But he is a franchise QB…may be a top 15 even.. And must be paid like one..to not throw the ball.

          Because that is what QB market and economics dictates. Pay the guy $15.5 million to not throw INTs and hope your defense also does a lot points scoring.

          It all makes sense.

          • BillW

            Your sarcasm is well taken. But the decision was not to sign him for 15.5 and have him hand off. The 15.5 was handed to them and they had to decide what to do GIVEN the salary and the apparent disinterest around the league for his services.

          • BillW

            “I bought an expensive steak and I over cooked it. Do I throw it out or put ketchup on it”. The Bears are stuck putting ketchup on Cutty.

          • BearDown100393

            You type ketchup. I think “Pine Barrens” episode.

          • John Doe

            My comment was directed more towards many, including on this board, who still argue that Jake “deserves” that contract.

          • Irish Sweetness

            According to Pace – he said they didn’t shop him. That doesn’t mean the Titans weren’t ringing our phone off the hook. No way was there zero interest in Cutler given the names that were moved. No way. Methinks Mr. Pace is a pussy.

            Beef in the locker room between Cutty and BMarsh? I know which one I’d get rid of, and it wouldn’t be for a 5th rounder, losing a 7th.

      • Scott W.

        He has had good years here, just no SB, and drop-offs. But if you are implying every year he’s been here he hasn’t had any good ones, well, you’re wrong.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Blogfather”: No questioning Ray McDonald’s ability but I wonder how Bears fans feel about bringing him in. Serious answers please. Genuinely curious.”

    Apparently there were only accusations made and now McDonald is going after his accuser in court.

    The Duke LaCrosse Players situation clearly demonstrated that there ARE women who are willing to “Cry Wolf” for a potential payday.

    Of course, Lance Armstrong turned “Going After His Accusers” into a cottage industry and turned out to be a world class liar/cheat/egomaniac.

    • Kind of. There were 3 different instances with McDonald and police last year.

      1) Called to his house during fight, when supposedly his fiancé had pulled a gun. He called police and she fled.

      2) Called to his house during fight, cop showed up to find the 2 of them home alone and his fiancé covered in bruises. No charges because fiancé didn’t cooperate with police. This is the one that worries me.

      3) Woman accused him of raping her. He had videotape evidence from home security system that showed them having consensual sex in his bathtub, supposedly. No charges filed, he’s countersuing.

      The rape charge seems pretty bogus from the rumors I’ve seen. The domestic abuse ones worry me though.

      Note: got a lot of this from his Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_McDonald

      • AlbertInTucson

        At the least, he IS guilty of questionable judgement and several BAD choices.

  • Jack Lacan

    Remember to buy Deja Blue Water – if it’s good enough for George McCaskey it’s good enough for me.
    Get the big one…

  • BillW

    Serious answer on Ray McDonald:
    I wish they hadn’t done it. They got rid of Marshall and he hadn’t been even accused of anything (except being a little wacko). Seems a bit inconsistent – but then again we don’t know the whole behind the scenes thing with BMarsh.

    It’s a pipe dream given the nature of pro-players, but I wish off the field they could all be like Jay Cutler (even with the weird anti-vax stance).

    And if a damn Packer fan EVER talks about Jay “pouting” I’m saying two words – Darren Sharper. Or would you rather have a pro-bowl rapist over a pouting family man?

    • apparently the issue with Marshall was that he was a cancer in the locker room. McDonald’s stuff is all completely non-football related, so I can see how that’s different.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yup. Brandon wanted to win, while everyone else just wanted their paychecks. He wanted to stay married, where McDonald just wants to get his rape-on. What the hell is this guy Pace at? He is way too young to be a GM and it’s showing.

        • there was a lot that came out about Brandon undermining the locker room last year after the trade.

    • John Doe

      Marshall also had history of physical violence with his wife and girlfriend before he signed with Bears.

      Do you wish Bears had not signed Marshall too?

      • Marshall had admitted the problem, worked to change it through intensive therapy and lifestyle changes, and started doing charity work to promote positive change. I would feel 1000x better about McDonald if he did similar.

        • John Doe

          He had done nothing to change before joining the Bears.

          The question is should Bears and the McCaskeys completely stay away from troubled players?

          • he publicly announced his diagnosis 1 year before the Bears traded for him and had been in no trouble whatsoever in that year since. Had already started his charity and work with mentall illness, and was also emerging as something of a leader in the Miami locker room.

          • Scharfinator

            This ^ I remember watching his press conference where he talked about his diagnosis. I liked him from then on.

      • BillW

        In fact at the time I wish they had not signed him and said as much (though maybe not on this blog – but to friends and family”.

        As his time went on here I was impressed with how he confronted his issues. Gave him respect for that. And for a while even said it was unlikely he’d slip back.

        Even his presser this year I defended saying it was probably therapy. But I had my doubts. In retrospect it was a good signing but time to say good bye. Myself – I would have rather see another team take the chance on him but it worked out OK.

        However, the more chances you take on character, the more likely something bad happens., Surprised they are taking that chance already for relatively marginal short term gain.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Morally, BM is in a different world to Ray McDonald. I just don’t get how one fits, and the other doesn’t.

      • Irish Sweetness

        The violence was on him as I recall. And a tussle with your missus is not the kind of thing Mr. McDonald is stuck to.

  • Feeding off the Cutler Moratorium, I really think the Question boils down to: can Cutler make those clutch throws in the playoffs like Eli, Flacco or even Roth? (Look at their contracts too)
    Statistically speaking, they’re all rather subpar during the regular season (esp Eli), but have proven clutch when needed.
    Personally, i USED to believe Cutler could turn it on like them, but I’m off that bandwagon now.
    That’s really the only valid Cutler defense in my book, the ,’he’ll never be Peyton but he could be Eli’ Chewbacca defense

    • I don’t think comparing Ben to those guys is fair. He’s in a class more with Romo and Rivers, statistically. A notch or two up from Cutler, Stafford, Eli, Flacco types.

      • John Doe

        Cutler himself is several notches below Eli, Flacco types.

        If he was at the same level and given how you say his contract is so reasonable and even cheap in coming years, teams would have lined up to trade for him.

        and yet there was market for Sam Bradford who no one remembers playing for the last two years but absolutely no market for Jake.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          Bad example, Bradford went to Philly and no one understands half the moves Kelly has made. Also no one knows how many teams contacted the Bears inquiring about Cutler, and no one knows what other teams offered, except the guys inside Halas Hall.

          • John Doe

            Browns offered #19 for Bradford. Pace would have jumped all over for the deal if the Browns had offered the same for Jake.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            maybe… it is also possible that the people inside Halas Hall have more faith in Cutty than you, or they were wanting a little more in trade. We still don’t know how much the front office values Cutler.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            and the Browns management is known for their competence (or lack thereof). If the Browns had Cutler last year, they’re a playoff team.

          • BillW

            Very possible they have more faith in Cutty than JD (or me). But turning down the 19th pick in the draft? and freeing up the salary? Getting 2 of the top 20 players in the country this year when they are rebuilding. (Sorry Barb – I mean retooling or restructuring or reloading or…)

            IF Pace turned down any first round pick for Jay then I would have my first doubt about him.

          • I suspect this too. I def think Pace and co (given their luke warm endorsement of Cutler) would’ve jumped at #19.
            I also believe Kap was for sale, but no takers there either, which makes all this buzz for Mariotta quite dubious imo

        • we’ve been through this. Based on over 3000 regular season throws for each, they’re basically statistically identical. You can make a case Flacco and Eli are better due to their superior playoff resumes, and I’m fine with that.

          If you want to rephrase that as “Ben is in a tier more with Romo and Rivers, a notch ahead of Eli and Flacco, who are a notch ahead of Cutler and Stafford,” that’s fine by me. Point remains Ben is better than any of those guys.

      • I can see that, but what i was getting at more is that Roth is no Rodgers, Steve Young, etc QBs who are deadly efficient in reg season. Roth is more in the Favre mold, which some thought Cutler would be (ole gunslinger) , but alas, never materialized and most likely never will.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Ben has two rings, a higher completion % than Rodgers this season, and nobody threw for more yards. Threw two 6 TD games back to back. He’s been at the top of his game since he arrived and he gets no credit for it, when guys like Brees are setting league interception records, doing nothing, and still getting blown.

          • Brees is old now, and behind a sucky line, inj Graham, and a grab bag of WRs.
            Ben no doubt has benefited from the new OC, the shorter passing attacks, and obviously the emergence of the HB and Antonio Brown, but I don’t think Roth will ever be as efficient as Brees, Rodgers or Young in their prime. He just has a different game.

            Not saying I wouldn’t take it, cuz I doubt Brees or the others can handle the punishment that Ben took, and Ben has a bit more of an arm.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’ve never seen Cutty turn it on, I don’t think.

  • John Doe

    Kyle ‏@Ky1eLong 16m16 minutes ago
    “@Mason_Foster: @Jarvis99jenkins oh yeah WE ON NOW”

  • Sactowns#1

    Is anyone else hearing the Ray McDonald rumors? Not a fan.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    The Bears ran the ball only 35.32% of the time last season, 2nd fewest in the league. All they’re talking about is making that a more respectable %. The league average was 41.76%. Of the teams that ran the ball more than the league average, the average win total was 9 games. We’re not running the ball 65% of the time, the league high last year was 51.88% (Texans), Jay is going to at least be chucking it 30 times a game. They are going to have to have him put up decent stats to win, which can happen. Do I expect 65% completion, 4500 yds and 40 TD’s/16 TO’s, HELL NO! But is 60% with 3,800yds 30TD’s/19TO’s possible? Yeah. Stop with the damn paying $15.5M for a game manager crap because that just won’t be the case.

    • the Bears were comically imbalanced last year. I expect a more reasonable approach this year.

      I ran down and distance splits at the bye last year (halfway through the season). Basically, if it was past 1st down they were throwing the ball if they had more than 1 yard to go for a 1st down. Ridiculous how predictable the playcalling was on 2nd and 3rd downs.

      http://dabearsbeat.com/2014/11/04/bears-at-the-bye-down-and-distance-tendencies/

      • NewBearInTown

        Marc Trestman was not a good football coach for us in 2014.

  • John Doe

    Jen Lada @JenLada · 27m27 minutes ago
    In other news, Mason Foster is finally in. No more tea leaves. #Bears

    • still haven’t been able to figure out if that’s from Foster’s tweet or another source. Nobody else has anything.

      • John Doe

        Kyle Long confirmed. Pretty reliable source.

        • BillW

          While he was out shopping with Kristin?

        • Foster’s tweet was cryptic. It’s possible he signed, but he’s been tweeting stuff like that out for a while. I’m waiting for official confirmation before making a conclusion.

  • BillW

    Gale Sayers, Doug Buffone, Ed O’Bradovich, Dan Hampton, Mike Ditka, Brian Urlacher.

    In reference to what Jeff said above – all these are Bear players ( and also coach in one case) that I truly admired unconditionally. And they all at one time or another said something that made me think “Just stop – that’s not how I want to remember you.”

    • Big Mike

      Gale Sayers does regularly. He comes across as bitter. Buffone and O’Bradovich are two Bears I would have liked to go out drinking with. I’d like to have dinner with Ditka. Urlacher, not so much. He doesn’t seem to have much of a personality. Never really got Hampton. Sort of a neutral type of guy.

      • NewBearInTown

        I want to have dinner with Peanut.
        Also would dig doing some kind of charity event with Kyle Long. And he lives in Skokie, so that’s a possibility I guess.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Wow, surprised to see Walter left off that list, and that Hampton is on it. He is a tier one top drawer meat head. The only time I ever saw Wally and wished he hadn’t been like that was after the super bowl. I get that he didn’t score, but publicly sulking? That surprised me. Suck it up man. Team game.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        That “wooooosh” sound….

  • John Doe

    Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL · 3m3 minutes ago
    #Bears GM Ryan Pace has had quite the day landing 5-techs Ray McDonald & Jarvis Jenkins and now finally reeling in ILB Mason Foster.

    • FWIW, Michael C. Wright just tweeted nothing is official with Foster yet. https://twitter.com/mikecwright/status/580480182735269888

      • John Doe

        He is just pissed that he did not get to break it and Jen Lada did.

        I understand being skeptical and everything but you overdo it too.

        Here is Mason Foster tweeting a picutre of his kid.

        https://twitter.com/Mason_Foster/status/580479990552244225

        Still don’t believe?

        • no, he just waits for confirmation before reporting facts as facts. I’ve always seen Mike credit whoever had it first.

          • John Doe

            Other people can confirm before Michael. He is not the only one, you know.

          • yes, but nobody else WAS confirming, in this case. And Lada didn’t cite any sources that I saw. For all I knew she was basing it on Foster’s tweet.

            When there are conflicting reports I wait until the conflict is resolved.

          • John Doe

            No. She clearly said “no more tea leaves”. You think she would just make shit up. Why would she divulge her source?

            And who gave Michael C. Wright the job of “confirming”? You mean Jen Lada tweeted that out without confirming?

          • she didn’t mention a source. That’s typically how news is broken. And nobody else was confirming. I wait for 2 reports and/or no conflicting reports.

      • he just confirmed it

    • Data-v-Lore. Round 30

      • John Doe

        ?? what is this Data v Lore?

        • NewBearInTown

          Well I got the reference anyway.

          Star Trek, The Next Generation

        • You do know we call Jwood “data” right? (MB coined that).

          So, since you’re his nemesis, that would make you Lore.

          • Irish Sweetness

            … and also his brother.

  • TheBigCheesy

    A big year for Cutler, huh? Remember last year when you predicted that Cutler would be in the MVP conversation at some point late in the season? 2014: Oh man, good times.

  • Big Mike

    Pace brought in guys at all 3 levels of the defense that are solid veterans and familiar with the system. MacDonald, Jarvis and McPhee up front, Foster at ILB, and Rolle in the Secondary. That will establish a base of leadership and insight to the system on the field.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Wait…weren’t the Bears REBUILDING ?

    PS: Love the McDonald signing. Extremely disappointed with their ILB choice.

    • Big Mike

      They have a lot of LBs. None very good. Looks like they are getting set up to take BPA at all levels of the defense.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I’m having a blank…what does BPA mean ?

        • NewBearInTown

          Best Player Available

        • Big Mike

          Best Player Available

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Ohhh… right.

    • Like i said, quite wittily i may add…
      Foster, Australian for ‘meh’

      There’s gonna be a lot of turnover this camp.
      Lovie Will welcome them all on his sinking ship

      • I wouldn’t be shocked if Foster ends up as 3rd LB. Or a 2 down player.

        • You think Foster will beat out Bostic, or become the 2 down while Bostic slides over on 3rds (which seems counter-intuitive since Bostic while athletic is brain-dead on passes).

          I wonder what this means for Christian Jones? Still projected as the “Sam”, or do they move him in?

          Not to mention what happens to Shea and Sharpton (I suspect them to losing out on musical chairs).

          And we still gotta see how Washingtion and Bass respond to REAL DCs.

          I’m actually quite excited about the new look Bears. We’re getting back to Black and Blue roots and going into the Detroit and GreenBay with some teeth.

          • John Doe

            Sharpton is not on the roster. Greene will be cut as he was already in the doghouse with previous regime and is not into football.

          • Sharpton is not under contract with Chicago. I don’t know what to think with Jones. If they’re putting McPhee and Houston at OLB in base packages, and presumably Allen and Young there in sub packages, he must play ILB. IMO he wins one ILB job and Bostic/Foster duke it out for the other. Might see some sort of rotation there.

            I really worry about the LB and S in coverage. None of them are even average there unless they show otherwise this year. Bostic, Foster, Jones all have struggled there in the past.

          • I suspect a 4-2-5 on obvious passing downs.
            Allen-McDonald-Rat-Houston/Young Dline
            Bostic/Jones/Mcphee LBs (who else can cover?)
            Mix and match DBs.

          • ha, well, Green was a S/LB hybrid, but his heart is out of it, if not, he could’ve been a prime candidadate.

            Maybe we take a shot at S/LB Shaq Thompson in the 2nd.
            He could be a Chancellor type.

            He can also play short yard HB too!

          • Big Mike

            Maybe Khaseem Greene, does something besides collect a check. Only hope is that his spirit has recovered since his friend was paralyzed his senior year and the new staff gives him a shot. Otherwise, he’s done.

          • Big Mike

            I’m shredding that defense with seam routes and crossing patterns. Pass rush better get there quick, because receivers are open everywhere.

          • In SF, Fangio preferred a 2-4-5 nickel, with both OLBs basically functioning as DEs, but in a 2-point stance. Wouldn’t be shocked to see something similar to that here. I’m intrigued by a Nascar package with Houston and McPhee on the DL and Allen/Young at OLB.

          • Big Mike

            Bostic is such a disappointment. He seems like he’s one or two clicks from being special.

          • yeah, physically he is a great fit as an ILB in Fangio’s D. I wouldn’t be shocked if he emerges as a solid player this year. I also wouldn’t be shocked if he never gets it.

          • Big Mike

            Evey guy that we had on defense can be looked at 2 ways. 1) part of the worst defense in the history of the Bears, The fewer of them that stick around the better. OR 2) maybe a real coaching staff, with a real defense scheme is a 2nd chance for these guys and they aren’t all horse crap.

    • Irish Sweetness

      As far as I can tell, we don’t have any, and the best two may be gone by our second pick.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        That’s why the trade route should have been an option.

  • John Doe

    Brad Biggs @BradBiggs · 11m11 minutes ago
    We’ll see what shakes out in the way of a contract for LB Mason Foster. Could be #Bears got him for minimum salary benefit.

    Looks like all 3 deals today were 1 year, minimum $$ deals.

    If so there is money still to sign Wisniewski, TE Rob Housler and Dashon Goldson when he is released by Lovie.

    That will be out-of-the-part free agency by Pace. And then he can draft pretty much any position he wants.

    • If they do make all that noise on D thru FA, who knows, could be they’re planning to draft the best OT, WR, or maybe even nake a move for Mariotta.

      • Big Mike

        I read something yesterday about what a disaster it has been for teams that took the 2nd QB in a draft.

  • NewBearInTown

    These are all nice signings, but nobody should be getting too excited. These are depth guys who may not even make the roster after camp. We’re not selling out for a run, we’re just signing guys to field a competitive team.

    • McDonald is more than just that. Foster and Jenkins are no locks to start, especially Jenkins.

      • John Doe

        Andrew Dannehy @ChiBearsAD · 3h3 hours ago
        Yes, Foster is signing with the #Bears. He hoped for a big offer elsewhere, but it never came. Bears best fit, offer starting gig.

        • he’ll likely start, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he gets beat out by Jones and/or Bostic. Or ends up as a 2-down guy.

          • Big Mike

            That in itself is good. Competition. Bostic needs something to live up to his billing. I’m hoping proper coaching, in the proper position rekindles his skill set. He’s a 3rd year guy. So far his career will remembered as being a part of the worst defense in the history of the Chicago Bears.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Can anyone remotely say that they like our linebackers?

        • Big Mike

          We have a lot of them.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            If we get to put an extra 3 or 4 of them on the field, we’re butter.

          • Big Mike

            No doubt. Cumulative rating of our defenders would be about equal to Seattle’s with a 12 and 13th man on the field.

        • I don’t feel great about them. I’m curious to see what Fangio can get out of them. Still wouldn’t be shocked if they add an ILB in the draft. I would love love love love love Eric Kendricks, who is 10000000x better in coverage than any LB Chicago currently has, but doubt he falls to Chicago in rd 2.

          • NewBearInTown

            I still have a hard time saying no to him at #7 honestly. If he truly is a 10 year starting MLB, that’s not overdrafting at all.

          • I don’t think he’ll be the best guy available at 7 though. I would love him at 39, but there are guys at 7 I’d rather get.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Agreed

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Not sure about the McDonald signing but I heard the released court document on what played out…typical drunken night out for all parties involved until the text messages were read out…damning enough for me to not sign the guy

    • FourFeathers

      Fact is a lot of NFL players are bad people in real life. As fans we forget that sometimes.

      • BearDown100393

        The worst tend to sit in the owner’s box.

    • BearDown100393

      So Marshall is a distraction and is Jettisoned yet McDonald is coveted. Good luck explaining this one GM Pace.

      • John Doe

        Rich Campbell @Rich_Campbell · 33m33 minutes ago
        Bears chairman George McCaskey said he initally vetoed the McDonald signing bc of a pattern of bad decisions. Reconsidered after meeting him

        Dan Wiederer @danwiederer · 38m38 minutes ago
        McCaskey said the potential public reaction weighed on his mind some. But that he didn’t want that to sway the decision in the end.

        Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL · 26m26 minutes ago
        Over the past week, the #Bears front office met with Ray McDonald once and Virginia & George McCaskey at least twice. Was not taken lightly

        • BearDown100393

          Don’t really care how it was taken. The Bears signed a thug with football talent. So be it. The vetting process was a joke. I have no disillusion about the reality of pro football’s personnel. The Bears had some civic pride on who wore this uniform. That is over.

          • John Doe

            then why complain? It is what it is. No team can claim to be on high horse and fans shouldn’t expect their team to be paragons of virtue.

          • BearDown100393

            You are right. No team can claim any higher moral standing. But I’ll be damned not to voice discontent when a piece of shit like this one is rewarded. And fans have every right to express an opinion – they are the customers lining these people’s pockets.

          • John Doe

            You could say that about Greg Hardy and Adrian Peterson and Ray Rice. Our system of law found them guilty.

            You cannot say the same about McDonald. Innocent until proven guilty. there haven’t been any charges filed against him. So to pronounce him guilty is going too far.

          • BearDown100393

            I didn’t pronounce him guilty. I called him a piece of shit. And he is.

          • Big Mike

            Why?

          • BearDown100393

            If you have to ask, you will never understand. And it would be a waste of time.

          • Big Mike

            I don’t keep track of gossip. Why is he a POS? Unproven rumors, Is Ray Lewis a POS? Is Brandon Marshall? I don’t know where the line is. Does someone have to be proven guilty of a crime, or simply alleged to have committed one? Does being a douche bag qualify someone as POS? I’m just interested in where people draw the line. Anyone who has ever been alleged to hit there GF/Wife is not allowed to be on the Bears without being a POS? What about the guy about to drafted as the top pick in the draft? POS?

          • Big Mike

            You see a thug? I see an opportunity. You say the vetting process was a joke, I’m asking you how do you know? It’s not like the Bears trot out Virginia McCaskey very often. Sounds like it was a big deal to the Bears.

          • BearDown100393

            See it anyway you want Mike. I don’t care. I’ll see it my way. This guy is a piece of a shit. The Bears want him as an employee. That is their prerogative. Pro football accounts itself in profit and wins. And it does so by employing punks who beat women.

          • Big Mike

            Fair enough.

      • John Doe

        Marshall could not get along with the QB…Kinda important for WR but Culter-Marshall friendship went poof after the Dolphins game and kept getting worse.

        Marshall could not get along with new GM and new coach because of his insistence on doing the tv show and their insistence on not allowing him to do the show. Kinda important.

        So Marshall had to go. Very simple to understand.

        • Irish Sweetness

          They got rid of the wrong guy.

          Huge.

          • Big Mike

            Irish, we need to get over Cutler’s bad year. It’s bad for our health. He’s a better QB than we’ve had since McMahon. He’ll have to do. Keeping Marshall and going with some lesser turd at QB would not have been the right move. The emotions aimed at Cutler, get in the way.

      • I can see how the situations are different. By all accounts, McDonald was fine in the locker room. Marshall was not.

        • BearDown100393

          I understand the point. Nothing matters in the NFL except on Game Day.

          • Irish Sweetness

            God remembers how you were in the locker room ….

          • Big Mike

            Game day and how you impact the locker room.

          • BearDown100393

            And outside of those perimeters, you could be Charlie Manson for all they care.

          • Big Mike

            I see your point. Clearly there is a line. The Bears seem to have done what they thought is appropriate in terms of weighing the risk/reward given the facts of the case, of which they have seen more of than we have.

      • Big Mike

        Pretty obvious.

  • John Doe

    John Devine @JohnJDevine · 4h4 hours ago
    Mason Foster will become the second former Seaside High grad to play linebacker for the Bears with Ron Rivera winning a ring in 1985

    • EnderWiggin

      Now THAT is a tweet worth twatting.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    Hell Yeah. we signed McDonald. I hope he beats up on opponents like he did his girlfriend. The dude can be an animal. Great pickup!!

    • I like it too, and I expect no less of a crude joke from a Bear penis.
      I turned on The Score when I got home, and I thought I accidentally tuned into the 700 Club.

      I guess whoever dislikes McDonald on the Bears would also not trade Cutler for Roth straight up, or retroactively deny Lawrence Taylor.

      I’m not condoning what McDonald did (IF he did it), but isn’t that what the legal system is for? To punish transgressions as a lawful society?

      Now, if someone wants to be pissed about rich ppl (black or white) getting off while the working class schmo gets railroaded in the courtroom, then that I can understand.

      But the workforce is filled with scoundrels.

      • Big Mike

        If he did it. Even then, don’t care one bit about what football players, until it impacts their “eligibility” or their performance. Face it, these are young men from all walks of life, who have had a singular focus their entire life. They stap metal and plastic on and run into each other at full speed for a living.

  • On a purely football aspect, McDonald is a violent, explosive player, more so than McPhee IMO.
    McDonald is an impact player, much like Young was. I think McPhee is sorta jack of all trades, master of none, more along the lines of Houston. He flashes, but I don’t see dominance (hope I’m wrong). His biggest asset is his versatility and soundness.

    Rolle might be very erratic , going from Conte-ish angles, to Ed Reedish picks.
    However, unlike Conte, he’s a leader and not made of china.

    Eddie Royal I love. I think he’s going to be great for the offense, making all those crossing routes and tough slot catches while backing the safeties up some. Royal is also a pretty dangerous redzone target, esp for his size.

    The other FAs are just JAGs, IMO, but considering what we had before, that’s a step up.

  • willbest

    If you think 65-35 run-pass you are drinking the loopy juice.
    Teams that cleared 60% R/P in the last decade
    2004 – Steelers
    2009 – Jets
    Teams that cleared 55% R/P
    2005 – Steelers
    2008 – Ravens
    2011 – Broncos
    2012 – Seahawks
    2013 – Seahawks, 49ners
    Quite frankly given the attention Pace is spending in FA on the D, either he plans to load up on offensive talent in the draft (a bruiser RB, some o-linemen). Or we are going to see the same 55-65% pass that we have been seeing.

    • I think it all depends on how all these new bodies and scheme gell on D.
      If it clicks, and by week 4, our D is respectable, I think that makes Gase a bit more patient with the run.
      But if all this goes Kaboom, and we’re still in the late 20s on D, Gase won’t resist himself. He’ll become aggressive with Alshon, Bennett, Royal, etc.

      • Irish Sweetness

        The young, blushing Mr. Pace thus far :

        The bright, shining lie that is our QB, is still here. The guy pissing in the soup has not been kicked out of the kitchen.

        As it stands, our defense is still a non-entity. Hoping that poop shines in a 3-4.

        We no longer have the most talented player on our offense (albeit some think Matt is more talented because he can do a third of his job quite well), and we gave up a draft pick to get rid of that player, if that can be said without laughing. We don’t have any kind of a respectable receiving corps, and we don’t possess an offensive line that can open holes (IMO), nor a second back we can rely on, and no banger.

        It’s semi-early days, but …. color me unimpressed.

    • Irish Sweetness

      And this is where we jump back in the clown car.

      “Run the ball, Jay, Matty in the 2 hole.”
      Jay calls a pass straight down the center of the field into quadruple coverage. Interception.
      “What the fuck kind of a run was that Jay?”
      Shrugs.

      Can’t win a war with soldiers that don’t follow orders. Jay wouldn’t last too long in the Legion.

      • Big Mike

        That’s not going to happen. It’s only a rumor that it happened at all.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I think a 65-35 run-pass is insane for many reasons.

      First of all…it’s a losing strategy. Second of all… well that’s it. You can’t have a losing strategy going into it.

      • Big Mike

        Running 65/35 is a brilliant objective, certainly not a strategy. What it means is, you are kicking the other teams ass all over the field. I believe it is more of a statement than an actual play calling mix.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          It can’t be. The objective is to run 50/50.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Last year the average team ran about 64 plays per game, a 55-45 (which is the majority of your list resides) split is still 35 running plays per game, that’s a ton. I think the actual split is going to lie in the 52-48 run-pass range. The 2 drivers are going to be YPC and how well the defense performs. Of all 13 teams that ran the ball greater than the league average (41.76%), only 3 were ranked in the 20’s defensively: NYJ (24), CAR (21) and PHI (23) the other 10 were ranked in the top 15 defensively.

      Note: I used scoring defense (not yardage) to determine defensive rank.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    The problem when you cut a player like Marshall and then leak a lot of stupid shit about him for PR reasons, is that many good/great NFL players have various problems off field. When you go for one of those…you’ve lost the fucking PR battle by default.

    You should have just cut Marsahll without bashing him in order to give yourself excuses.

    Now they’re losers. They lost while fighting against themselves. Just like they did with all the Cutler leaks. This is becoming a pattern. It’s a big red flag.
    They cut -for off field reasons- the ‘cancer’ who’s trying like hell to become a better man with success and signed a dude with major off field problems. That’s pathetic and no PR spin can save face. Frankly I don’t give a fuck about what ownership thinks…and that’s what we had as they ‘voted’ on his signing.

    First they sign a 32 years old average S because of his human qualities, now they sign a stout 30 years old nut case. I guess that must be confusing for the insane posse that thought the Bears are rebuilding.

    To this day the only young FA players this ‘regime’ signed were 2 ex Emery players.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      what kind of non human qualities would they sign a player for?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Bat-like wings.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          that would be awesome to see on the field.

    • Big Mike

      You are seeing this all wrong. Low cost rental players that no the system, while the draft builds. Don’t need 2 of the same WRs. If the Patriots had traded Marshall, you’d be the first to hand out an award for doing things the Patriot way. Don’t believe the drama about who said what. If you do listen to any of it, know this. Players are many, many, many more times more emotional and less rationale about what they put out there than a team’s GM and Coaches. No matter how poorly their football decisions are viewed, they have maneuvered their way to the top of their profession and are not fools. (except trestman… just kidding).

      Each decision stands on it’s own. Ray MacDonald is known by Fangio. Details are known that we don’t see. The risk/reward is there. A strong clubhouse and coaching staff can manage this. He was most likely ousted only because the owner and GM of that club have gone nuts and knew they were chasing Harbaugh out of town.

      Bottom line, I like the FA moves. They fill needs, add depth and get the team pointed in the right direction. This is a 2-3 year rebuilding job. The Bears did get incrementally younger during this off season. The key to the few years are the young guys left over from Emery. Will Bostic, Greene, Jones, McClellin, Fuller etc amount to anything?

      • BearDown100393

        He beat a pregnant woman. Go Bears.

        • GPLDAN

          BearDown is holding trump.

        • Big Mike

          A proven fact? Or an allegation? As of now, there are no charges pending and he’s suing one alleged victim. His prior charges were a DUI in 2010 and an administrative issue related to not showing proof he had completed a training program (which at some point he must have provided or that charge would have expanded).

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          that was just practice for slapping around DBs.

          • BearDown100393

            I know that was just in jest. But this shit (McDonald incidents) really hits a raw nerve with me. If I’m pissing off membership here, I apologize.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i think it is silly that people think that a football team should show some kind of ‘civic pride’ or be the standard bearers for enforcing a ‘Code of Ethics’ or they should have some kind of moral obligation to not signing a guy. Throughout the history of the Bears i am positive they have had players that beat their spouses, abused drugs and alcohol, been charged with assault, or charged with illegal gun possession. Hell we had a guy trying to be a drug kingpin on our team a couple years ago. it is just ridiculous.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        your choice if you want the ignore the crap this ‘regime’ has made so far.

        Frankly…I don’t understand your post. Who’s no fool ? The NFL GMs and Coaches ?
        Man… the majority of them are clueless and incompetent.

        “Don’t believe the drama about who said what. If you do listen to any of it, know this. Players are many, many, many more times more emotional and less rationale about what they put out there than a team’s GM and Coaches.”

        What is this ? Are you joking ? Neither Cutler or Marshall, victims of a months long pathetic leak campaign made by the Bears, have leaked anything.

        I haven’t read 1 Marshall or Cutler leak since this crap begun. They were humiliated, and they still kept quiet.

        I think it’s more than obvious that the Bears have been emotional and less rationale, not the players. That’s your big ol’ red flag. You’re free to ignore it, mind you.

        • Big Mike

          You are wrong about NFL GMs and Coaches being clueless and incompetent.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Not everyone…the majority.

          • Big Mike

            With the benefit of hindsight, all of their jobs are easy. There are 32 HC jobs and 32 GM jobs in the world. Pretty sure incompetence is not rampant.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Yeah… 3 of the GMs are school friends with the son of Bill Polian or some shit.
            It’s all based on connections and relations not on merit.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        McDonald is older than Paea.
        Rolle is older than Conte.
        Royal is younger than Marshall.

        • Big Mike

          Of course I was including the guys who retired/became useless. Younger guys will take their place, not counting on aging veterans.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Every NFL team gets younger every year if you include those guys. The rookie class is going to make your get younger. That’s not a plan, it’s laws of nature.

    • The only long-term contract they’ve handed out so far is to McPhee. Royal’s deal is for 2 years, the rest (including the 3 Emery guys they re-signed) all have outs within one year with no dead money.

      I can understand how they see this situation differently than Marshall. Marshall was a problem in the locker room. From everything I’ve heard about McDonald, which includes talking to people I know and trust who cover the 49ers, he was a popular player who never created waves in the locker room.

      That said, I don’t particularly like that move for the Bears, for off-field reasons. Or at least I wish they would get off their moral high horse and admit they only care about his character to the extent that they want to know he won’t be a problem in the locker room that distracts them from winning games.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Every contract is a shot term contract. Few reach 3 year and those are for guys like Suh, Revis & Co.

  • Big Mike

    A boy can dream, right…
    Iowa OL Brandon Scherff recorded a 7.07 three-cone time at the school’s pro day.
    Scherff also produced a 4.41 20 yard short
    shuttle. He ran neither at the Combine. The 7.07 would have been good
    for second best at the Combine since 2006. Just for fun, Scherff’s
    3-cone time was faster than WR Jamison Crowder, Dezmin Lewis and just
    .01 slower than Chris Conley’s. We think a team will see Scherff as this
    year’s Zack Martin and select him to play guard, even though he could
    absolutely hold up at tackle. Teams like to mimic recent successes of
    other clubs.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/cfb/40817/jets-to-bring-in-winston-for-private-workout?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&rw=1

  • GPLDAN

    Old McDonald ducked a felony
    Eee-I-Eee-I-Five-Oh!
    On that charge the DA lost
    Eee-I-Eee-I-Five-Oh!
    With a bang bang here and a bang bang there,
    here a gang, here a bang, everywhere a bang bang
    Old McDonald ducked a felony
    Eee-I-Eee-I-Five-Oh!

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-biggs-ray-mcdonald-bears-nfl-spt-0325-20150324-story.html

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