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A Chip Shot From .500 (Rapid Fire)

| December 7th, 2015

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This was the type of performance many expected from the Chicago Bears this season. Ugly. But did anyone expect the Bears could play a game this poorly and still be in position to win? Well, they should have won. Rapid fire…

  • Is it time to worry about Robbie Gould? It certainly could be. He didn’t just miss two short field goals that would have won this game. He dead shanked them both. The coachspeak approach will have fans yelling “Bears didn’t lose this game because of the missed field goals” but you know what? They did.
  • Welcome to the NFL, Eddie Goldman. That was a dominant performance.
  • When did Willie Young become the Bears most dominant edge rusher again?
  • Kyle Fuller is a special player when the play is in front of him.
  • No clue what Fox and Fangio thought the Niners offensive approach would be but they looked thoroughly unprepared for all the things I saw in amateur tape study early last week.
  • The point above may be unfair, mind you. A lot of that responsibility would have been on the linebackers and the guys in the middle have looked lost in coverage.
  • 36 yards is now an extra point! Robbie essentially missed an extra point to win a game. Inexcusable. Gould has been a good one but I hate kickers.

  • The praise train should slow a bit for Adam Gase. His play calling is pretty darn predictable and the Niners have a pick six to prove it.
  • Bad game overall for Jay Cutler. He missed two deep throws for touchdowns he normally doesn’t miss. Just seemed off.
  • But once again the offense was at its best when Cutler was avoiding the rush, stepping up and throwing downfield.
  • Jeremy Langford is going to be a star. But he has to learn to catch. He should start by using his hands.
  • Great job by the Bears return game and punter. Would have been their best special team effort of the season by a mile if Robbie Gould didn’t choke the game away.
  • Adrian Amos will learn from his mistake on the Gabbert touchdown run. Hit him. Don’t worry if you think he’s going to slide. Hit him. You HAVE TO keep them out of the end zone. That’s the only goal.
  • The overtime blown coverage happens. I’m surprised they don’t happen more with this secondary.

They missed a kick. Played horribly, yes, but when you’re facing an extra point to win a game…you expect to win. Especially with one of the most accurate kickers in history involved. They missed a kick. And their playoff dreams died with that shanked ball.

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  • Blur of Ions

    It happens. Only 4 more guaranteed Bears games left until next September, I intend to savor them.

  • AlbertInTucson

    So achingly, frustratingly close to being 8-4.

    • Trac

      It happens. Next year baby, next year.

    • Scharfinator

      An up arrow with another solid round of picks? This year is the gathering of the storm, next year it breaks.

  • chitownproud85

    Will be very interesting to see how the team handles its last quarter of the season. Do they show signs of packing it in now that the season is all but over anyway? Do they grit their teeth and do their best to finish .500? Its a long wait for next year – I’m not quite ready yet.

    • The GP

      good point. they were playing for a shot at wildcard. that is gone.

  • The GP

    Amos looked positively Chris Conte (Dylan’s new tune for Xmas, look for it on iTunes) on that Gabba Gabba run.

    Thayer had called out the wide open middle since the 1st half on radio, and when Gabby decided to take it, he took it all the way.

    Shae positives: good man to man on TEs and backs splitting out, esp on sideline routes. Bad: inside run stuffing. easily blocked, Shawn Draugon? Seriously? He looked like prime Eric Dickerson out there.

    Jones gets swapped out for his pass coverage, but the secondary played decently.

    Offense: The Bears have a physical OL that can pound the ball. Let that sink in after the last decade. It doesn’t always work when they run blitz into it, but when the D doesn’t know if it will be run or pass, it often gets good gains.

    Again, back to safety play. Prosinski didn’t respect the one deep ball burner that the Niners had. That was some awful zone play. Giving up 2 huge plays, both for walk in TDs, is what cost them the game.

    It will, however, be blamed on Robbie.

    • Irish Sweetness

      And rightly fkn so, GP. QBs are allowed to throw an INT. Kickers are NOT entitled to miss two in a game. When we just miss out on the playoffs, add on the two or more games he’s cost us and tot up. Defenders blow coverage, QBs let them sail. It happens. 2 kicks cannot happen like that, and certainly not in that fashion, and from that distance. Give me a blind kicker with some stones any day of the week.

      • SC Dave

        Wow, you should let a couple days pass before posting.

        • CanadaBear

          Somebody lost some dough on that game!

      • BillW

        A talented blind kicker should be able to hit from that distance 100% of the time ASSUMING good snap hold and blocking.

        I know they moved the XP back to make a miss more likely but it’s not that they expect the KICKER to screw up. It’s that they expect more often the penetration will get through; or that due to the distance a bad snap has less time to be corrected.

        NOT that a kicker flat out misses.

        Ever see guys make free throws one after another blindfolded? Same concept. Absolutely no reason when that’s all you do to ever miss a kick from that distance with a good snap hold blocking. Which it was. Hit WAAAY left. Not even close. A pure screw up by Robbie.

        I really don’t get the excuses being made for him. There is NO excuse – not even “it happens sometimes.” If that happens sometimes to a kicker he isn’t NFL quality. Period.

        • SC Dave

          This is asinine Bill. This is as bad as saying a QB that throws a bad pass from a clean pocket, or a receiver that drops a pass is not “NFL quality”.

          If this shit was as easy as you seem to think, finding kickers that make 95% plus of their attempts should be trivially easy to locate.

          So go find one and send him to Halas Hall.

          You have ten days, which is 100 times what you need by your logic.

          I’ll be waiting expectantly.

  • BillW

    I see no controversy. Jeff nails it. A kicker is expected to make an extra point range fg 100 percent of the time if the snap hold blocking is right. Not 99 percent. One hundred. Rarely can you point to one play and say it lost the game. But this time it did.

    Of course there were other ways to win. But were any of those as sure of a thing? Obviously not.

    • TBC

      Actually, the very reason the XP was moved back was because kickers are not expected to hit 100% from that range.

      • willbest

        Just 97%. So you are expected to be no worse than 1-2

  • BillW

    Have to say that the missing brother in law is not getting the attention I’d expect. Does the press actually know more but are being asked not to say anything yet?

    Remember Jay missed a practice for “illness” . Then never a word about what it was or if /when he felt better.

    And with Wilson out that missed practice limited his time with the receivers called upon. At the least that had to be a small part.

    Maybe Kristen is having a meltdown. Post partum depression is a thing, though not always. But add this stress and who knows?.

    Won’t be surprised to see this story get bigger this week. The beat reporters are silent on it and that just seems strange to me

    • The GP

      usually that means the guy was known to have problems or ties to people he shouldnt have.

      If he was clean and upstanding and missing, the APB would be getting bigger run

      • BillW

        That’s what I think too

    • Irish Sweetness

      If she has post-partum depression with a hundred million fucking dollars in the bank …..

      • Scharfinator

        Mental illness doesn’t see the outside world nor the blessings around it.

        • CanadaBear

          Money doesn’t equal happiness but with a decent outlook on life, it sure helps. Totally agree about depression.

    • CanadaBear

      Like sands through the hourglass …

  • BillW

    A football comment. I don’t know the slide rule in detail. But I do think it played a part as Jeff says. I would hope the rule is no penalty unless you hit the guy after his slide has stopped. You can’t make a defender pull up even when the slide has started If that is required then a defender has to slow down anticipating the slide and then the qb can easily cut around him. Frankly I don’t like the fact that qbs can use their rule protection to limit aggressive defense. The onus should be on the qb to get down before he is hit, not on the defender to guess right

    • willbest

      If you don’t have time to pull up, you are allowed to hit them incidentally as long as its not in the head. Its all judgement call, so the Rodgers Rule applies.

    • Scharfinator

      I really think they should do away with slides in general. It isn’t the same as protecting a QB’s knees in the pocket.

      A QB has to make the choice to run past the LoS – he isn’t caught “unawares” of the situation. As a result, he shouldn’t have any special protection. If he doesn’t want to get hammered, he better throw it away or get out of bounds.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m OK with the slide rule if they were consistent with it. If a Golden Boy slides and someone breathes on him, FLAG! Every other QB that slides and there is incidental contact, maybe they call it, maybe they don’t.

        • Scharfinator

          I just struggle to accept a special protection rule for a player who chooses to go outside of his normal scope of play.

          • willbest

            Everybody can slide.

          • CanadaBear

            If a RB ever did a slide to protect himself, he would slide right out of the league.

          • willbest

            No doubt, but they are allowed to. The most they will do is step out of bounds to avoid the hit rather than taking the hit and falling forward for the extra yard.

          • Scharfinator

            Really? Hmm I may reconsider my position on it then.

    • BearDown100393

      If the quarterback initiates a slide, he should slide. He should not use it as a decoy move to pivot pass the defender. It should be a flag. And it should cost 10 yards.

  • Irish Sweetness

    I’d agree with all of that, only to add Shea’s position was the one Gabbert went through on his TD. Shea may have had the RB out wide, but the great LBs know where the ball is going.

    I’m proud of the boys on here not going for each other’s jugulars after such a tough loss …. the knives came out over at WCG. Cutty-haters pointing out that a pick-6 is the same as two missed FGs (it is NOT). Robbie-supporters saying he’s the most accurate kicker in the universe (he is 7th all-time, but in the bottom section of the NFL this season).

    The playoffs may be a long shot, but maybe that’s just as well. Focus on the draft and a run next year.

    Worries? Both Gase and Fangio. Gase is blinkered into FGs and three senseless runs that precede them. Play football to win, don’t be predictable. Mr. Fangio, it makes sense to blitz sometimes. 30 teams in the NFL do it more than you do it. Yardage stats can be stuffed firmly up someone’s arse (preferaably Robbie Gould’s). Taking the ball away and pressuring QBs is what it’s about.

    We beat the Pack at Lambeau, and we refused to win that game against SF. It wasn’t meant to be, a bit like the Patriot’s game:

    From NFL.COM:

    The Patriots led in this game 14-0, but some disastrous special teams turned the game around. Bill Belichick tried a dropkick for an onside kick try, which failed and gave the Eagles a short field to set up a touchdown. Then the Eagles added a punt block touchdown to close the first half and aDarren Sproles punt return touchdown in the second half. A 99-yard pick six by Malcolm Jenkins at 14-14 added to the insanity. It’s only the third time in NFL history that combination of return touchdowns came in the same game.

    • Scharfinator

      Apparently the OTHER two times this has happened? Iggles!

      It’s been the iggles every time!

    • BillW

      Going back to his last kick (a 51 yard miss) in the Mn game, Robbie is 9 out of 14 or 64%
      (In a previous post I quoted something I read that said 9/15. I counted it up myself and unless the box scores I used are wrong, it’s not quite that bad).

      When you think back on the knuckleball (was that an XP or FG?) there is a real problem.

      Biggsy said on the Score this morning that all the misses are to the left. An obvious pattern. correctable or not, given a troubling pattern this late in his career, I’d say it’s time ot move on (next year).

      Mully also said kickers were coming in for tryouts tomorrow, but I think that was a sarcastic remark not real.

    • BillW

      So a drop kick is allowed on a kickoff? I know it is on a FG or XP. Seems screwy to me.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    on cutler’s pick six. 1st i really hate that call, i think we throw way to many of those bubble screens, and teams know it’s coming when they give Jay a certain look. 2nd, Bellamy needs to put a body on Ward. There have been several times this season that teams have jumped that play, i think this was the first time it was picked off, close a couple others. Finally, why the hell would you not throw to the side of the field where the blitz is coming where the defenders vacated.

    • Irish Sweetness

      On Robbie’s two missed XPs … I mean FGs :

      I like it when the ball goes between the two uprights, as opposed to the stomach-churning ‘outside part’ of the goalposts.

      • WP4Life

        Your wording reminds me of one of Robbies kick in GB game a knuckleball that went through.

    • BillW

      I remember one of Dandy Don’s expressions on early MNF – after a team runs the same play way too many times:

      “They DO catch on”

  • MB30SD

    That was a brutal loss. Was in shock for about an hour… until I slapped myself into remembering that this is just a practice run and we’re way ahead of where I thought we’d be.

    It’s time. Thats two games to him this year. Robbie can’t even kick off into the endzone. Let’s get young everywhere next year. Sorry I’m not sorry.

    • CanadaBear

      I was at a bar and said “Fuck me” a little too loud. Nobody even noticed. My Beloved Bride thought I might lose it but was shocked when I just smiled and said “Fucking Bears”. We had a couple of laughs with some of the other guys at the bar, finished our drinks and went about our day. It’s a pisser to lose games like this but that’s rebuilding.

      • Scharfinator

        Yeah, it stings less when we know the arrow is up and the team is getting fixed. Hard to believe Robbie is batting .600

        • CanadaBear

          If ever there was a year he could suck … Unfortunately he’s been pretty mediocre for a while. I just can’t see him sticking around after this year.

          • Scharfinator

            I’m right there with you. He’s the only surviving member of the SB squad at this point, right?

          • CanadaBear

            I can’t think of anyone else that has been around that long.

      • MB30SD

        100% canada. would have been a different ball game if we were squarly in contention this year… like we will be next. If that win/loss meant a spot in the playoffs my weekend would have been put under a little rainy cloud. Still sucks to lose like that, when you supposedly have one of the best kickers in the nfl.

        • CanadaBear

          Me too. Not gonna defend Gould but he had some help losing that game.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That’s kind of defending him. Yes, absolutely, it was a game we just did not want to win. But with Robbie – you can’t win when that happens. Jay et al did just fine putting him in position to do so twice. And he fucked us.

    • 505Bears

      Cut his ass…Dude gets paid just to kick a football and can’t do that correctly? Kick rocks Gould

  • SC Dave

    The *team* lost the game, just like always. Just like when the *team* wins games.

    • CanadaBear

      Agree that every facet of the team had horrible breakdowns. Gould’s were the most obvious. He’s playing his way off the team.

      • SC Dave

        So it would seem.

        I only watched part of the first half, but I was relieved the sf lb was concentrating on langford instead of the ball on that bobble; could easily been a second pick-6.

        • CanadaBear

          Yeah, I know a few posters want to replace Forte with Langford but there is room for both of them on the team. Depends if Forte will settle for a smaller pay check. Past history says no. Also, unless Robbie is lights out the rest of the way, he will either have to take a big pay cut or move on.

          • willbest

            3rd down change of pace backs get no respect. That is why Sproles is on a new team each year. Nobody wants to pay him what he is worth.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Forte looked slow getting to the ball and getting to the gap. If we could limit him to pass catching,sweet, but otherwise, Langford should be carrying the rock, and not Forte.

        • Irish Sweetness

          GAH! If you didn’t watch the game then don’t give Gould the day off !

  • CanadaBear

    For the most part the D bottled them up except for 2 plays. Not gonna get too worked up over the D. From what i read it sounded like there was a miscommunication between Porter and Amos on the final play. Cutler had his worst day all year. So did Robbie. Kickers are easier to replace than QB’s.

    • SC Dave

      Evidence?

      • BillW

        Biggsy said as much on the Score this morning. Haven’t read 10 thoughts yet but likely in there.

        He was perplexed that neither Porter or Amos would own up to what the issue actually was. Mistakes happen (see Conte, Chris.) And we know neither of these guys fall into that category – so why not own up? unless they really don’t know? THAT would be really bad, and that’s what Brad was hinting at on the Score.

        • SC Dave

          Should have been clear… i meant the kickers are easier to repalce than QBs part

          I guess one could look at career duration… or seasons as starter or something.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m basing that on a lot of teams have a decent kicker. Way fewer teams have a decent QB.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Well, QBs are vastly more important than kickers, so they are harder to find.

  • willbest

    Thursday is when you get your answer on the Bears playoff chances. If the Minny beats Arizona in Arizona, the Bears season is over. If Minny loses, the Bears season depends on them winning out and Green Bay beating Minny in week 17.

    If GB beats Arizona, they will almost certainly be playing week 17 for seeding.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Well, neither are beating Arizona – but nor do I think we can win out. Not if we’re 1-5 at home.

      • willbest

        With the Redskins losing our 8-8 path to the playoffs became more secure!

  • “The praise train should slow a bit for Adam Gase. His play calling is pretty darn predictable and the Niners have a pick six to prove it.”

    Was that a Gase call? The TV guys kept saying that Jay audibled to that play.

    • willbest

      That looked like a Cutler audible to me. He spoke the receivers moved.

      • BillW

        Absolutely an audible. I’m surprised Jeff didn’t realize that.

        And it seems like Jay was doing that several times even after that.

        • Scharfinator

          Don’t forget about Jeff’s Jay-colored glasses! 🙂

          Though I have to admit Jay has played quite well overall this season.

          • BillW

            Jay has played like a star. Yesterday was his worst game (and it doesn’t rank near other “worst games” either so again real progress.

            But maybe he just doesn’t audible well. Perhaps defenses trick him into checking into a play they are ready for? I seem to remember thinking that happened in past years.

          • CanadaBear

            No QB is right all the time. That one was a killer but the WR’s didn’t exactly execute their blocking assignments.

          • BillW

            Which reminds me – what is the rule on that? Are the receivers allowed to block before the ball is caught? That’s what it would have taken to avoid the pick 6.

          • willbest

            1 yard past the line of scrimmage.

          • BillW

            Need to look at it again then.

            I have NFL Rewind from my season tickets (I don’t recall getting an email about it early in the year like I did last year, but the Bears resent it to me.)

            But there is not slow motion option and “pause” is slow to react.

          • willbest

            It wasn’t really a killer. It didn’t happen when you were driving down the field with 2 minutes to go in the 4th. It was early, and it was against a team that outside a couple busted coverages had zero success moving the ball.

          • CanadaBear

            In the grand scheme of things it was a killer. Struggle like hell to get 6 points (because the O doesn’t finish often times) and then bam tied up. That has to demoralize a team to a certain extent.

          • BillW

            But it was overcome – I think that’s the point that is being made. The D held SF to their average of 14 in regulation as willbest points out. The offense – despite known red zone issues – still put up 20 and should have been 23.

            it was not a killer. It was just a flesh wound – and not of the Monty Python variety either.

          • SC Dave

            Six points count on the scoreboard, no matter in which quarter they are scored.

          • i’d say shanking the kick with no time left on the clock was the killer. but that’s just me.

          • CanadaBear

            Fair point. Poor choice of words by me.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          my guess is that Gase has a very restricted set of audibles for Jay, and from the looks of it they have not changed much so far this year. I said earlier defenses have figured them out. So it is partly on Gase.

          • BillW

            Interesting and very good observation.

  • BillW

    So now our sights are on 0.500? That requites winning 3 of the last 4.

    Who are the 3? There are no gimmes there. If ever there was anything close that a gimme it was yesterday.

    Let’s not set ourselves up to be disappointed in this team. The roster holes we all knew about before the GB haven’t gone away. The season actually is playing out the way I think most of us expected. A surprise win or two but also a surprise loss or two. Marked improvement before year end. Translating to a record around 7-9

    • willbest

      I thought they were going 8-8 at the beginning of the season, so they are under achieving presently. Then again when I said they were going to go 8-8 I was expecting to have White and Jeffery most of the season. Instead we go no White, and Jeffery about half the time. But then the Defense is playing better than I thought it would, even if yesterday wasn’t the best example of that. They still only allowed 14 points in regulation.

      • MB30SD

        an 8-8 prognostication at the beginning of this season was a very serious home-team overreach will. Sure we could be there had a few things gone better in now 4 games, but expecting .500 from a ground up rebuild, big call.

        • CanadaBear

          I was at 5 wins. I’ve been pleasantly surprised by some aspects of the team and frustrated with others. Have no idea if they win any or all of the remaining games.

          • BillW

            I was at 6 or 7. I wanted 6 to say things are clearly better. 8 was a stretch.

            You can never tell which ones will be the Ws and Ls. Everyone just gets a feel for what the overall is likely to be.

          • Irish Sweetness

            One thing I’ve noticed is that every week : 8 home teams win, 8 away teams win. Figure out which ones and you’ll be a man my friend.

        • willbest

          The wins I selected were
          3-3 in the division (even bad teams play their division tough)
          Raiders, Bucs, Skins, 49ners
          1 surprise win plus enough wins to cover the losses from the above.

          • MB30SD

            that seems logical enough, I was just giving it the finger in the wind WAG test

      • BillW

        Excellent point on giving up 14 only – which is the average for the 49ers

        And 7 came on a busted play.

        I can’t blame the defense for this.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’m missing out on the defensive love. We can’t stop the run and have no teeth in that defense. And if you’re going to play bend-don’t-break defense .. then don’t let fucking Wayne Blabbert throw a gigantic bomb downfield in overtime.

        (headbuts wall)

    • Irish Sweetness

      Looking at the four teams we have left, they could conceivably beat us. All of them. The Redskins in Soldier are no joke. In fact, playing us at Soldier Field is an advantage for them apparently.

  • willbest

    If Gould and Forte go, Cutler will be the only player that has been on the team prior to 2012.

    • CanadaBear

      Think you meant to include Forte instead of Gould twice.

      • willbest

        yeah I changed it

        • CanadaBear

          I do stuff like that all the time.

          • BillW

            Relly? I nvr make misteaks/

          • AlbertInTucson

            Me neiver.

  • The GP

    Hey Waffle –

    I played Rivers like a schmuck, now all you need is a big night from Kirk Cameron and it’s all you, bitch.

    http://449ijl1gws101a1ktoaq0f8kml.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/kirkheadshothighres2.jpg

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      haha, how did I have a TIE with Fresno last week. I played 4 guys by neglecting my team. I’m a terrible owner. Just partying and spending dad’s hard earned cash on Thai tranny hookers, mountains of blow and all night Discos.

      • Irish Sweetness

        HEY!! It’s my Mom’s money !! And she worked HARD for that …

        Hmmph!

  • MB30SD

    here’s my final deal on robbie.

    The team didn’t lose that game, robbie gould did. Sure we could have easily won out if we’d have played better, but in the end it was his game to win and he couldn’t.

    The worse thing for me is that the guy simply can’t get it deep into, or out of, the endzone. Every single kickoff he’s giving the other team a chance to run one back against our weakest unit.

    It’s time to replace him, or at the very least bring in 2ish guys to compete and keep him on as insurance is we can’t find a ringer.

    • CanadaBear

      I think they will roll with Gould because he’s paid for and the season is over (concerning the playoffs).

      • MB30SD

        I meant next year canada

        • CanadaBear

          Totally agree. Unless he’s willing to accept league min, they will bring in a parade of kickers.

          • BillW

            Why would money matter? They are in a healthy position cap wise. You need a good kicker. I don’t think you should settle for someone inferior at that position just because they are cheap.

          • CanadaBear

            What is to be gained by bringing in someone else when the season is basically over?

          • BillW

            Again, I mean next year. Certainly not this year. It sounded like you meant the same thing (“Unless he’s willing to accept league min…).

            Or are you suggesting they renegotiate? (just kidding around.)

          • CanadaBear

            I think they bring in a bunch of guys and if none of them are to their liking they will try to re-negotiate with Gould.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Robbie has lost two games for us that I can remember. The Redskins will beat us in Soldier Field next week, and I’ll wager it’s Robbie’s fault. These aren’t 58 yarders he’s missing.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But he’s on the hook for 8M dollars from us over the next two years.

    • Bender McLugh

      find someone “wirey”

      • MB30SD

        I like wirey

      • willbest

        The misfit sports team sub-genre is my favorite of all the sports movies.

      • BearDown100393

        No, the Bears need a kicker with “awareness”….

        • BillW

          Who practices well

    • Bender McLugh

      it really really sucks we are talking about Gould like this, that he needs to be replaced. But facts are facts, dude has lost his mojo

    • BearDown100393

      Field goal kicker yips. The dude needs Rene Russo (from about 15 years ago).

    • SC Dave

      You last paragraph is the only sensibly complete statement yet on what to do about Robbie. I support those ideas 100%.

      If he is as done as you all think, the competition will demonstrate it.

      Of course, when Bill identifies that 98% guy the is “NFL quality” we’ll be in like Flynn.

  • Anonymous

    Gould is only 33, which is not ancient for a kicker of his pedigree. But he is kicking half the year in Soldier, which could shorten his career. Remember, Vinateri has spent the latter half of his career kicking in a dome and a guy like Eddie Murray, who seemingly kicked until he was 50, spent his entire home career indoors.

    The Cheese went through a kicking crisis a few years back with Mason Crosby. He missed FGs in something like eight straight games, cost them a couple of wins and had a bottom of the league FG percentage. (And Crosby has never been the kicker Gould has.) But the Cheese stuck with him, and Crosby returned to half-decent form the following year.

    If we part ways with both Gould and Forte at the end of the year it won’t be the end of the world, but their prime career effectiveness will doubtfully be replaced anytime soon. Gould is arguably the best Bears kicker ever, and Forte is the second or third best CHI back of the modern era.

    • BearDown100393

      Kicking a football 1-4x per game for 16 weeks per regular season shouldn’t shorten a career in any environmental situations other than perhaps from space. Yesterday’s weather conditions were way above average for December football.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I will stand up for Neal Anderson, as always. Better runner than Forte, excellent receiver. Stats schmats. Eyeball test. Couldn’t catch him from behind. Forte was tackled from behind in the SF game just gone. I preferred TJ to Forte. So post Payton, Forte is still #3 in my eyes. He barely breaks 1000 yards (that’s averaging 60 YPG), and has 3 years well under that.

      He’s been a good servant without ever being spectacular.

  • I think langford has very good hands but a problem with looking the ball in. He’s made a couple really tough contested catches this year when he isn’t thinking about running afterwards and just makes the catch. But he has 3-4 drops on short, easy plays where he has room to run, because he doesn’t look the ball in and starts thinking about where he’s going to run before he’s caught it.

  • BillW

    This may be unreasonable but I’d like to see at least an effort to remove “judgement” from the rules.

    as I said too many times yesterday I’m done with the NFL except my beloved Bears. “Judgement” is making it the NBA or soccer. Even baseball has it better – if the ump has a certain strike zone you know it by the third inning. If a ref is going to call or not call certain things, you often don’t realize that until near the end of the game.

    “NOW you tell me I can pick up the QB and body slam him without a penalty!”

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      as long as the QBs name is not Manning, Brady, or Rodgers.

      • BillW

        Want to drive me completely bat-shit screaming insane? Keep reminding me of this.

        It’s WAY past time that crap stops. And it’s really up to the owners of the other 29 teams to make it happen.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          i already thought you were bat-shit insane

          • BillW

            I was only bat-fart insane before. I’ve gone all the way finally.

    • willbest

      Well when it happened, this was legal.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntw8mg0SMhI

      But then some of us remember this from last year

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSsvoOLBKhk

      which drew a flag. But then Brees is one of the special QBs.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Could Robbie’s trouble be connected to the fact that the Bears have a new long snapper? I am not sure, but the last kick that was shanked, the ball looked “off” once it was put down. Was I seeing things? I didn’t get the chance to see a replay but i thought the ball didn’t look straight up and down as normal before the kick…

    Not Making excuses, Robbie used to be the almost “for sure” points of the Bears Offense. But Yeah Lately something isn’t right. I hope the Bears can figure it out, I’m not ready to give up on Gould just yet But something needs fixing.

    • SC Dave

      Who knows… could be Father Time.

    • willbest

      I don’t know how the Long snapper changes it. The snap didn’t look bad. O’Donnell is the one he is in charge of getting snap down and the ball lined up. He has been doing that for 2 years.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Robbie shanked the shite out of it. Snap good, placement good, kick terrible.

  • The GP

    Thayer indirectly laid blame at the long snapper’s feet.

    Jeff to call for Mannelley’s re-signing in 3…..2…..1…..

    • willbest

      What exactly is the reason a long snapper can’t play until 50?

      • The GP

        dunno

      • BearDown100393

        Bending at the waist.

      • AlbertInTucson

        You’ll find out as you near 50.

    • BillW

      I wondered about that. I didn’t think the snap was bad but maybe timing issues?

      Is that what Thayer was referring to?

      I wondered too way they decided to change long snappers. Brad said it was “short snap” issues. Short snaps by the long snapper. I assume those are placekicks vs punts.

    • Irish Sweetness

      There was nothing wrong with the hold on the last FG, so snaps are irrelevant.

  • The GP

    Know what I dont love about Bears run game? It’s constantly run from the gun. They built a young tough OL. Get a fullback & run the ball.

    Blog laments letting Clutts and the I-formation go for previous 6 years – Jeff finally catches up.

    • willbest

      Do they? What percentage of each run play is from which formation?

      • The GP

        We do. Thank you for your participation.

  • SC Dave

    Jeff, your final sentence is, of course, dead wrong. Their playoff hopes ended on a 71 yard pass from Blane Babbert to Torrey Smith.

    • willbest

      They actually don’t need all that much help to make the playoffs. The problem is yesterday demonstrated they aren’t prepared/don’t have the skill to take care of business on their end.

      • Anonymous

        Technically yes, we could still qualify/earn a spot, but so could ATL and TB, both of whom have better records than us, and ATL has been god awful of late.

        Perspective, I suppose. The big “win” this year is realizing that, short of STs, we have big time coaches on the staff, which has made a marked difference in a myriad of ways.

        • willbest

          If Bears beat Tampa they can do no better than 9-7 and the bears will own the h2h tiebreaker over them.

          Atlanta is 6-6. If they lose 1 more conference game they can finish no better than 9-7 with a 6-6 in the conference record. But here is the kicker. They are 1-4 against common opponents analysis against the Bears. If the Bears win out they will be 3-2. Excepting Atlanta to lose at least once to Carolina, is not requiring a whole lot of help.

          I can actually get an 8-8 Bears into the playoffs, and if I told you the records and the games necessary for that to happen you wouldn’t feel I was stretching. For example, I don’t have Dallas beating anybody to help the Bears out.

          This is partly why this loss hurts to much. People keep saying this isn’t a playoff team. And they are right. Its not, but here and now in 2015, the Bears with just a little bit extra than what we have seen could be.

          You don’t know what the league will look like next year. People going “next year”… We missed the playoffs in 2012 with a 10-6 record. This year it would give us the 5 seed. You have no idea what is going to happen.

          blown opportunity this was.

          • Sactowns#1

            Sometimes you just have to let a dream die man. 🙁

          • madscout12

            Agreed. They are a decently called game and a decent performance away from the playoffs (assuming 3 wins the next 4 weeks). If the bullshit that happened at Ford (when we were there and the Pack were there) goes the other way, it is looking like us in this week and not them.

  • Sactowns#1

    “Bad game overall for Jay Cutler. He missed two deep throws for touchdowns he normally doesn’t miss. Just seemed off.” That about sums it up. Also Jay checked into that play that resulted in a pick 6. He looked terrible yesterday.

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      yet he helped drive the team down yet again for the winning TD with a little over 3 minutes to play only to have the win snatched away again.

      • TBC

        Both of those things are not mutually exclusive

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          You can have a less than stellar game and still win football games. The Bears shouldn’t be the only team prohibited from that.

          I heard Russell Wilson’s 4 INT NFC Championship game called “gritty”

          How did you fucking lose that by the way? I’d rather have Rodgers win than fucking Wilson any day of the week.

          • TBC

            That’s essentially what I just said. And Sactown wasn’t saying Cutler cost them the game, it sounds like he was just making a general comment on his performance.

            Obviously the team can win even when the Quarterback plays poorly. Not only are the Chicago Bears not prohibited from doing so, but they have made a living out of it. They have more wins than any franchise in history and stack nothing but shit behind center.

            2006 and 2010 are great examples of winning without great QB play.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            I wish I could talk into a machine that would type out my posts. I don’t have the time to get my thoughts across. I disagree with your post but don’t have time right now to discuss.

          • TBC

            Let me make it easier for you:

            You disagree with the concept that you can win with bad QB play? Considering that’s exactly what you posited above, I doubt that’s the case. Anyways, if so, press “1”.

            So are you disagreeing with my statement that the Bears have consistently won without good QB play throughout their history. I mean, that’s their reputation and it’s not something I’m pulling out of thin air. I guess you could disagree with that though. if so, press “2”.

            So the only option left is that you disagree that 2006 and 2010 were great examples of the Bears winning without great QB play? Can you really disagree with that? That would be rather amusing, but I’ve heard crazier things. If so, press “3”.

          • madscout12

            I disagree with 3. 2006, it depends on the game. That was the year of good Rex, bad Rex. When Rex was good, there was nobody better. But then he was bad…you have the Superbowl, which they still almost won cause Peyton was almost as bad.

            2010 and 2011 saw Cutler play some of his best football until this year. If you look at his numbers, they are nothing special. But if you watched the games, you’d know he did it with no competent WR on the team, turnstiles for a line, and a O Coordinator who called an O like he had Probowlers for both. Seriously, Roy Williams and Devin Hester were his #1s. The same Roy Williams who saw a TD pass coming at him and “ducked the big brown thing”. The same Devin Hester who was money when he got the ball in his hands, but was dumber than a bag of hammers and ran the wrong route all the time. The only decent target he had those two years was Greg Olsen, and he was gone in 2011. And the dude played BETTER in 2011 until injuring his thumb.

          • TBC

            I would probably agree that those two years were his best years until this year.

            That still doesn’t mean it was “great QB play”. It wasn’t even good QB play in my opinion.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Never saw a QB be on the money all the time. And Robbie looked far worse ….

  • Sactowns#1

    And the NFL never fails to fck things up with their ridiculous rules. The Alshon catch/non catch was total BS. If he had been hit he wouldn’t be considered a defenseless receiver he would be called a runner since he had taken multiple steps. But then he gets tackled, fumbles and they call it a no catch. Stupid.
    Also, in the Gb game they were able to recover an advanced fumble in the end zone which I just discovered is only legal on the first three downs. Makes perfect sense right?

    • BillW

      You will not find anyone on this blog who has grown to hate the seemingly random rule applications more than me. But here is how I understand the first one:

      In trying to protect receivers like QBs – you can’t hit a defensless one. That doesn’t mean you have to wait for them to catch the ball (or “begin the porcess of the catch” as it were.) You can still hit and jar the ball out, but you can’t do it when they are “defenseless”. I assume “defenseless though is one of those judgement pieces of crap that I want to go away.

      In this case, Alshon wasn’t defenseless what the ball was hit. (Or “at the initiation of the catch process” – sarcasm fully intended.) He had the ball with one foot down, then the next. Still not enough to complete the process. At the third step (I hate when they say “third foot”. This isn’t some mad scientist movie) he was hit and the ball was moving. Had he gone to the ground and got control again it was a catch. He didnt’ and so it’s not.

      That’s the rule as I understand it. Meaning there are at least 5 different interpretations that are also correct depending on what NFL person you talk to.

      Now – in the GB game – the idea is to prevent intentional fumbles forward to get a first down. Actually I thought under 2 minutes that applied on any down ( due to a series of intentional fumbles from an Oakland game decades ago.)

      But when you think of it – that implies the league is OK with intentionally fumbling forward to score or get a first down on downs 1 through 3. Again, a rule with clear unintended consequences simply because the people making the rules don’t think well or don’t care.

      Not saying the GB back (Lacy ?) did it on purpose, but I think a logical (there’s that dirty word again) rule says a fumble recovered by the offense beyond the spot of the fumble goes back to that spot.

      Yes – I am fed up with how ridiculous the NFL rules and interpretations have become.

      • TBC

        It’s both. You can advance a forward fumble except on 4th down OR on any down under 2 minutes of either half.

        The exception to the exception is that the player who fumbles the ball can always advance the fumble no matter the game situation. What you can’t do is roll the ball upfield to your teammate.

        It’s pretty easy to understand why the rule is written that way. I believe it was instituted in response to the “Holy Roller.”

        The Packers benefited from this rule in the 2010 championship game when Cutler was strip sacked at the end of the first half and Matt Forte picked the ball up and started running to the right. The play was blown dead because it was under two minutes.

        The Packers got screwed by this rule at the end of the Buffalo game last year. They were backed up in their own territory trying to orchestrate a game winning drive. Rodgers got stripped in his own end zone and Lacy went to scoop the ball up and take it out of the endzone. However, since it was under 2 minutes left if the game, the strip was ruled a safety as soon as it was occurred. So you can see how they kinda got shafted there. Not only could they not advance the fumble, but essentially they couldn’t even recover it.

  • TBC

    /uses lack of OC continuity to explain Cutler’s lack of success

    /Cutler improves

    /Cutler struggles

    /asks for new OC

    I can never get enough of this blog!

    • Doc Nitty

      C’mon dude. You’re better than that. He said no such thing, and you know it.

      • BillW

        Maybe I’m not the right one to say this, but it’s been said. Best to ignore this jerk.

      • TBC

        You’re right. He didn’t ask for a new OC. He just said that if they got a different OC (Wisenhunt) in 2016, the offense would dramatically improve. Please forgive me.

  • Sactowns#1

    I feel sick. This was a bad dream right?

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